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MIXED BAG: Angels lose two of three to Rays in series of good, bad, ugly · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Well, Hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo territory.
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: I am Mike D.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Giovanna, former RelA Times Baseball writer and host of the show,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: joined by our regular co host Mark Trumbo, the former
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Angel slugger, and as we sit here taping on a
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, very strange day in Tampa. The Angels end
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: up losing two out of three to the Rays. They
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: one two out of three in Detroit, so they go
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: three on the three and three on the trip, which
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: isn't great, isn't terrible, but a really strange game. On Sunday,
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: it was three to two raised in the seventh inning,
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: they have a runner on first, no outs, Chopper up
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: the middle to Zach Netto, looks like he touches a
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: second base bag, throws the first for a potential you know,
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: double play. Turns out he misses the second base bag,
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: throws high to first, So instead of having two outs
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: with none on, there's two on with no outs, And
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: from that point on, the Names did get the next
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: two outs and Pomeranz came in. He did strike out
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins, but Williamson hits an RBI single Number nine
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: hitter Walls walks to load the bases, and Yondi Diaz,
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: who was quite the angel killer this weekend, walks in
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: to force a run five to two, you know, from
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: a one run game to a three run game, and
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: that was it. As far as the raise. What did
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: you make of that play? Mark was you know, you
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: always hear make sure that first out and how does
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: that happen.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: On a play like that?
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I think what happened was you have maybe arguably
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: the fastest base runner in the game that was at
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: the plate and he hit a ball that normally is
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: a tailor made double play. I mean, that's that's going
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: to be a straightforward, take it yourself six' three double.
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: Play in this, case To zach's, credit he did know
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: who was, running but his internal clock ticked up quite a,
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: bit AND i think it was he was somewhat in between.
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: Steps ideally he would have covered that EXTRA i don't
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: know how much daylight there. WAS i Know erica Mentioned
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: weston that she could see what she thought was some
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: daylight from the side on the third base. View the
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: replay camera, reviews at least ON abtv made it look,
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: like you, know most fans at home were probably pretty
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: upset thought they blew the. CALL i thought that there
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: probably was some daylight by the reactions of the players
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: on the, field and unfortunately that out wasn't recorded and
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: the throw was high to first, base so double. Whammy
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: it was one of those plays that there was not
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: so much a mental. MISTAKE i, think, well maybe a
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: tad but that guy just flies and he puts the
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: ball In that's the. Thing he puts the ball in,
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: play and even a nothing grounder like that can turn
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: into some damage and put a lot of pressure on
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: the other.
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: Team, yeah we're, talking of course About Chandler, simpson AND
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: i think he actually hurt himself trying to leg out
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: that ball. Too speaking Of Zach, nettos he is now
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: this was not updated with today's, game but he is
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: now tied With Willia damas for the most errors among
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: major league shortstops with ten and we're talking about a
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: guy who made eleven errs in all of twenty twenty.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: Five he also, has according To, fangrass a minus six
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: outs above, average that's fourth worst among major league, shortstops
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: and he has one minus one defensive run, saved which
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: is actually a middle of the, pack.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: So not too.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: Bad but last Year Zach netto had thirteen defensive run,
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: saved second most among big league. Shortstops you're noticing anything
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: different about him defensively this? Year, mark and we talked
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: about the metal the physical also had some trouble with
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: the roof In Tampa. BAY a couple of pop ups
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: dropped over the weekend between him And. Parazza some very
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: strange things going on out. There and we've talked about
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: his occasional lapses in. Concentration he appears to have all
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: the physical gifts to play a pretty mean. Shortstop is
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: there anything you're seeing any sort of common thread with
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: some of these defensive shortcomings this?
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: YEAR i think that it's interesting because WHEN i look
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: at the defensive runs saved last, year for, EXAMPLE i,
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: mean they just pop.
• 4:40
  Speaker 1: Out.
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  Speaker 3: NOW i think there's a couple of different places that
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: are evaluating those. Things but last, YEAR i, MEAN i
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: just continued to pile up into the. TEAMS i, believe
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: as you, said this, year it's not been as, good
• 4:55
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't necessarily look that much, worse at least to.
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: Me his arm strength seems as good as it's ever.
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: Been he made a rifle of a THROW i believe
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: to turn a double play recently and they clocked it
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: in the upper, eighties and he's in the top five short.
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: STEPS i believe in the game for arm, strength so
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: that part is really. Good the pop up it happened
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: again today With. PRAZ i Believe tampa is a tough.
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: Place the reality, is if you take your eye off
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: the ball when it goes up, there you might not
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: pick it up. Again so that very well could have.
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: Happened it seems like the majority of his errors are
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: not coming so much with the. Arm it seems like
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: they're coming with the. Glove balls kind of going under
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: the glove is What i've. SEEN i don't know if
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: it's a. Thing it's really hard for me to. Speculate
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: it didn't play, shortstop AND i don't really see anything
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: technically that looks.
• 5:52
  Speaker 4: Flawed it seems like what we're.
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: On washington said a couple of times that do we.
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: Don't we do know that his hitting this year has
• 6:03
  Speaker 3: been it's. Fluctuated he was in a slump and then
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: he said he got out of his. Slump AND i
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: think maybe at times the bat is tied too much
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: to the glove and the defense and he's not been
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: quite able to separate him to the degree that maybe
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: a more veteran player would be able. To BUT i
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: think with the arm strength being really, GOOD i expect
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: his defense to get a little bit, better maybe a
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: little more, focus maybe a little more consistent double play.
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  Speaker 4: Partner.
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  Speaker 3: There there's been a lot of shifting around him as
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: far as that, Goes so we'll see as it. Goes
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  Speaker 3: BUT i do know that when he, hits he generally
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: plays better. Defense, YEAH i.
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  Speaker 2: Would agree on one point he.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: DOES a couple of his errors have come on balls
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: that seem like pretty routine, balls and he's choosing to
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: field them on the. Side AND i know when you're
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: in the big leagues and you play on these perfectly
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: manicured fields and you're counting on getting true hops all the,
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: Time but that's not a is the, case especially in
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: the extra inning or later innings when SOMETIMES i didn't.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: Feel dirt gets chopped up a little.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Bit, so you, KNOW i think fundamentally he could square
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  Speaker 1: up some of these balls and just feel them like
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: he normally, does so that that that's a big leap
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: of faith when you're charging balls and you don't really
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: have to charge and feeling them on the. Side Jack,
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: kahana it's another tough start. Today two and a third,
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: innings five, hits three are in, runs four, walks one.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: Strikeout really put a huge burden on the.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: Bullpen.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Uh not only, that we're seeing a trend THAT i
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: think we saw last. Year jack had a really good
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: couple of first couple of months last year and then
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: really tailed off as we got Into. June In, july
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: but As Jeff fletcher posted today ON x first seven
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  Speaker 1: starts of the year three point zero five e R
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  Speaker 1: a last five starts nine point two seven e R
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  Speaker 1: a almost a ten e er, mark what is going
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: on with this?
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: Kid jack gave some comments Again Jeff, fletcher as, Usual he,
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: said he started off feeling, great lost his. Rhythm not
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: really sure what it is or WHY i lost, it
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  Speaker 3: BUT i didn't make the ADJUSTMENT i needed. TO i
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: think he nailed, It, jack you didn't make the. Adjustment
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: and these, COMMENTS i, MEAN i think it's the second
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: or third time that it sounds like he. Doesn't and
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: he's a younger, guy so fair. Enough it sounds like
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: he's in need of somebody to really pull him to
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: the side or have a conversation or kind of game plan,
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: better because if you're lost in the big leagues and
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: you don't know quite what you're. Doing we highlighted in
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: a previous episode his pitch usage is kind of. BIZARRE
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: i indicated THAT i thought he was leaning on statistically
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: his worst offering Per Baseball. Savant so what does he.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: Do he ups the usage today and upit. Significantly he
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: threw either, one two or.
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: Three it.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: Was it was next to no. Sliders AND i so
• 9:09
  Speaker 3: listen to the advice or you, know the OPINION i
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: guess of an next, Teammate Richard, buyer who really knows.
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: Mechanics and pitch. Mechanics AND i, said, hey take a.
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: Look AS i didn't, Pitch i'd rather not speculate too.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: Much he said, that you, Know, Jack jack is a big.
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: Guy gooby has pointed that out as. Well he, said
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: he's really getting his head is getting to the side
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: on his. Delivery strasbourg was the guy he kind of
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: pointed To. Jack you, know they're not identical by any,
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: means but if you look at the, Mechanics strasbourg had
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit more in common With jack than some other.
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: Pictures but he did some other things really. WELL i
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: Think jack's arm is a little bit late as. Well
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: just like hitters can be, late pitchers can be late
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: getting their arm kind of up in that ready. Position
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: and it seems like what he did today was his
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: fastball command was. Abysmal it was really bad for any,
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: pitcher but especially one trying to navigate a tough lineup
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: like The. RAYS i think he was about fifty percent
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: strikes with his. Fastball his changeup was more reliable for,
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: strikes but he wasn't able to go deep into the.
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: Game fortunately he was picked up by the bullpen With.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: Ferris BUT i Think jack's got to get it together
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: a little bit more and lean into one or the.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: Other either he's going to try and be more of
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: a power forcing, pitcher or he's going to lean on
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: the sinker this kind of do it. Both he mentioned
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: also he has more weapons this year than he did last.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: Year i'm not sure if that really lines up with
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: What i've seen so. FAR i like him a. LOT
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: i think that there is a ton of. Potential it
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: just seems like he needs more of a guiding light
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: to get to where he wants to. Be and, again
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be the guy that's striking everyone
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: out and keeping up in that regard with the rest
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: of the. League some guys do it really. Well they
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: have elite swing and miss Stuff yamamotos. Skiings But jack
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: can be his own guy and make a lot of
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: money and be very. Successful but he's gonna have a
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: hard time if he doesn't quite know what he's trying to.
• 11:08
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• 11:23
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• 11:25
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• 11:28
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• 11:30
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• 11:32
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• 11:36
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• 11:48
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back To Halo territory With mike.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: D giovanna And Mark. Trumbull mark you Mentioned Mitch.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: FERRISON i really thought the left hander did a great
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: job keeping The angels in the game today and giving
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: them a chance to come back through four. Innings what
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: one hit two under and. Runs you know he got
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: charge under and runs with that weird play with netto
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: on the.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Seventh would you.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Make a move in the rotation With jack k right?
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Now would you maybe sub Out ferris for a start or?
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Two maybe Send jack? Down are there any options in
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: TRIPLE a that seem attractive right? Now or would you
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: stick With jack for another couple of? STARTS i personally
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: would stick With jack for at least another. START i Think,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: kurt in his postgame comment.
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: Said that more or less WHAT i.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: WHAT i just said that they want to see some
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: improvements and have him keep working on some stuff because
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: the package is very attractive if this kind of trend keeps.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Up obviously it's, not BUT i just think that there's more.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Potential and you, know for A farris that was that
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: was another nice. OUTING i think Is era is hovering
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: right around to. THREE i had said a few shows
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: back when he had come, IN i thought or he
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: had either did he start a, game OR i had
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: said maybe he had earned the opportunity to start and
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: immediately was pitching in a mop up game next.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Time so you've just nailed. It BUT i like what he.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: Does throws, strikes he keeps the team in the.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: Game he's very valuable as a long reliever as. WELL
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: i think he's probably you, know his stuff looks too
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: good to me to be just a straight you, know
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: he's not a mop up, guy so he's an option
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: and you know that you need the depth and he
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: is exactly what you hope for when you know you're
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: acquiring guys and trying to build more depth for your,
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: team and this seems to be a good.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: One.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Well saturday's, game as we, mentioned was a fourteen to
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: three route in favor of The, angels who had four home,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: runs including a grand slam By Wade, meckler who now
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: has twice as many home Run Fernando Tatist Junior Mike
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Trout Adele perrazza also went. Deep but, man The angels
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: got a skier in the seventh. Inning Zach netto steels.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Third then he scores on a wild pitch with a
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: pretty sizable left hander Named Ian seymour on the. Mound
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: ball took one of those weird hops off the backstop
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: right back to the. Catcher seymour's covering home and he
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: just dropped pretty much every ounce of his six foot
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pound body Into zach's lower, back
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: AND i don't know if it hit him in the,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: neck but he definitely suffered some whiplash down for several,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: minutes had to come out of the. Game zach luckily
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: was able to play On. SUNDAY i don't know WHEN
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: i saw that, play it's. Sure, LOOK i don't want
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to say, DIRTY i. DON'T i hate to use that
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: word because it's heat in the. Moment it's a really
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: reaction bang bang. Play but it sure looked Like seymour
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was leaning into netto because he was pissed off because
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: he threw a. While sure, what but it sure seemed
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like he was leaning in the netto before he had that.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Ball what'd you, See? MARK i saw WHAT i.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: SAW i also asked the opinions of multiple ex, players
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  Speaker 3: SO i got this.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Right you.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Know the fan sentiment was immediately to say dirty, Play but,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Okay i'll just say the contrarian point of. VIEW i
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: don't think there was anything dirty about. IT i think
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: what happened was a very awkward play that was really
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: going to end in some sort of. Collision and now
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: that depends, on you, know how bad it is the
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: timing of the. Play nothing was in favor of anyone
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: really avoiding. It what happened THAT i think really. Influenced
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: it was the way netto, slid AND i watched it fifty,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: times maybe BECAUSE i wanted to try and cover WHAT
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: i think people were, wondering and even today's, extit he
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: didn't think it was a dirty play. Whatever he slid very,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: early and he slid very, light and part of that
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: maybe in his advantage to get his foot into home
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: plate quicker or as quickly as. Possible now the flip
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: side is if he goes in light and kind of was,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: rolling his technique didn't really look that, great to be
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: honest with, you and we know that his feet first
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: sliding is something that he is trying to incorporate more.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Of BUT i was trying to think WHAT i would have,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: done AND i don't have quite his. Speed but you
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: know there are similar, plays and if you can see
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: out of your peripheral that the picture is kind of
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: you know there's going to be something happening here pretty.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: SOON i would do EVERYTHING i, could you, know without
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: trying to be dirty on my, end to get my
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: left arm in a position to. BUFFER i, Mean zack's
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: got all the speed coming in the, picture had very,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: little you, know but he is a big, dude he's
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: got tree trunks for. Legs AND i don't think there
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: was any. INTENT i, mean if you look at the,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: play he was trying to get if a perfect throw
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: in a perfect it's pretty. Close it was a little bit.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Late throw was not, bad but it wasn't quite you,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: know one of. Those it would just have to be
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: right on top of the. Plate BUT i Think, zach you, know,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: unfortunately is a smaller. Guy my advice and he's gonna
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: throw this straight into the trash would be if he
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: had that play, again you, go you want to you
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: want to slide through the play through home, plate probably
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit, later slide with a lot more, force
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and who you, know that picture could be, flipped you,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: know three sixty that. Way you know you're not trying
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to hurt the, guy but you're not trying to get hurt,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Either so you got to go. IN i, mean it's
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: an aggressive sport at. Times you got to go in.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Hard and he went in a little light in my,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: opinion he did. Score i'm glad he's, fine BUT i
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: don't think there was anything dirty from the pitcher's point of.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: View plus he had his back turned to him, too
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: so it's kind of, yeah kind of. Hard you, know
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: it was just one of those things that. Happened, YEAH i,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: SHOULD i should amend my earlier. COMMENT i don't think
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: there was any. Intent it's just when you watch the play,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: initially you, know no, replay it did seem at a little.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Off let's talk About. Wade meckler is a small sample
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: size for, sure BUT i like his at. BATS i
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's it's just the, size his, mannerisms
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the fact that his number starts with a, five but
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: he gives off a very Cold calhoun vibe to me
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in the. BOX i like the way he puts the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: bat on the. Ball he makes, good solid. Contact he
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: seems to have a pretty good. EYE i was gonna,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: ask is this kid here to? Stay once? Again small sample,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: size but he's made a nice little first impression. Here
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: what do you think of this?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: GUY i Like.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Wade everyone here that watches this show probably knows. That
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: AND i liked what he brought to the table BEFORE
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: i do and really got to look at. HIM i,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: said this guy gets on. Base this team could benefit
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: from guys to get On he gets on, base and
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: he does the power is we'll see about. That, now
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: he had some comments. TOO i believe he made him
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: yesterday that he's done a much better job of getting
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: some backspin in the air to the poll. Side you,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: know we've talked about that particular topic a lot with
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: other hitters on this, team but this guy is a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: different one because he's more in the camp Of Stephen,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: kwan the Good Stephen. Kuan you, know he's not a big. Guy,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: YEAH i think he's fit and, muscular but he's not
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: a tall.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: GUY i should. SAY i like his defense a heck
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: of a.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Lot, NOW i don't know if it's an algorithm or
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: what with the substitutions late in the, game they seem
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: automatic in the seventh, inning you must come, in you
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: must come. Out you, know it's probably for. Right it
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: just looks very you, know there's not a lot of feels,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: sometimes So i'm not trying to make a DIG i
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: JUST i guess it's exactly what the plan. Is but
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: you know, what fans can make their own opinions THAT,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: i you, know will sound like a homer IF i keep,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: saying look at this, guy look at this. Guy BUT
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: i think so far he has impressed and the most
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: possibly the most impressive thing to me is just the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: attitude and the demeanor The Cole. Calhoun you may be
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: going off the hair, color or you might be going
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: off you. Know he comes, out walks out to Heavy allison.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Chains you know he's got he's. Got Cole calhoun had
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the chip on the. SHOULDER i see the same thing In.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: MECKLER i don't, see you, know a party guy that
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you know is flashing his. JEWELRY i see a guy
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: that's ready to you, know stick it up your SO
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: i hope he's here to.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: STAY i like.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Him one of the THINGS i was going to ask,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: you you Got Josh lowe hitting four hundred with two
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: home runs and a twelve hundred ops and TRIPLE?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: A what do you do you the.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: He two words. THERE i don't.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Know maybe it's three in TRIPLE. A you. Know, granted
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: they they did. Trade they gave up a really good
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: player to get this, guy so you could argue that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: they've made an investment in him and THEY i don't
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: think they own anything though Until Wade.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Meckler where is?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: He can't you, know hit big league pitching or can't
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: be a positive contributor to this? TEAM i, say you
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: keep Josh lowe right there, now you, know like likely
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: somebody will get, hurt maybe it will Necessitate Josh lowe's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: return to the big.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Leagues BUT i don't know how YOU i don't.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: REALLY i, mean he's great That josh lo is hitting
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: four hundreds better than him in two, hundred but to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: me it's TRIPLE. A and he had plenty of time
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to show he could hit big league pitching this year
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and he hasn't one note on your algorithm and, DEFENSE
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: i will say in The angels, defense snow pun. Intended
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: they do Have Jose, siri who's a pretty good left.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Fielder as he Showed, sunday he did make a nice
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: robbery of a Potential Grand. SLAM i believe it was
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: off the bat Of walls that kept that game really.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Close it was early.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: On he is a goofy guy out, there but, yeah
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: very talented and he's had some nice at. BATS i
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: like what he's doing. Too he's got good, energy polar
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: opposite Of. Meckler yeah in terms of, personality but you
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: know what he gets. After it looks like he plays,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: hard and we like guys to play, hard or at
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: LEAST i.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Do, YEAH a couple of random stats out over the.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Weekend Von grissom eleven RBIs on the trip has done
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a pretty nice job in the three hole With nolan
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Shan well out on THE interu. List Mike trout fifty
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: six walks on the season leads the major. Leagues is
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: he just getting pitched a lot more carefully because of
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the lack of protection in the, lineup or is he
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: just have a great eye and he's you, know is
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this part of sort of the return to more of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the Mic trout that were used to, sing.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Let's keep it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: POSITIVE i think that bat has you, know he's played
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: well this. Year mike's played really. Well he's stinging line.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Drives the power is obviously. THERE i think that IS
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: i at the plate looks, great and he's a guy
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: that doesn't challenge very, often to the ire of some
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: they think he should.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Do it more. OFTEN i. Won't you, know it might
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: just be something that he.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: COMFORTABLE i wonder if that's maybe a little BIT i
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: would be able to give a much better. OPINION i
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: guess IF i was somebody who got to experience that
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: and AND i never got to AND i had opinions
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: many times that that was the ball's a terrible, call
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: but you didn't, know especially WHEN i first got called.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: It it was not encouraged to go down and even
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: look in the video, room so you just had to
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: use what you. Know and now it's very. SCIENTIFIC i,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: mean these things are so. Close you waste a couple
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: of challenges early it looks like you know bad and
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: it can cost, you and you start. LOOKING i start
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: looking at that column with you, know how many are
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: left about middle of the, game and if one team's
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: got to the other's got. None it's a pretty big
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: advantage in that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Regard speaking, OPINIONS i wanted to get yours on the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: pregame Ejection saturday of a couple of raised players who
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: are on the injured list along With Brent. SOUDOR i
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: guess they you see this around the league every now
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and then a national anthem. Standoff he's a couple of
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: players remained standing for the anthem after it's over in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: front of the.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Dugout see who blames.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: First and sure, Enough Brent, suter who was, active he
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna pitch that day because of his workload the day,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: before he got. Ejected But Chase silseth was one of
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the other pitchers who was standing there for a couple
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of minutes or whatever it, was and luckily he peeled
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: off before they got, ejected because he turns out he
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was needed later in that. Game did you did they
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: do this kind of stuff when you were, Playing, MARK
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: i don't seem to.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: RECALL i don't, either BUT i mean it's.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Great there's just a lot of fun and these guys are,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: laughing they're. Joking you, know he gets thrown, out so,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: big no big. DEAL i think you answered your own question.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: THERE i don't quite. Know i've seen.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: IT i Think Joe kelly did, it and some other.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, personally it's one of those things that to
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: each their. OWN i don't know IF i see the appeal.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: THERE i think maybe bullpen relief pitchers are so bored
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: that you do stuff like. THAT i, now getting thrown.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: OUT i don't know if they were. WARNED i don't
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: know if that's a lesson LEARNED i. DID i THINK
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: i messaged you immediately AND i wasn't quite, sure But
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Trent russian, SAID i think they just threw him out
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: and then it was, quiet, nothing, nothing AND i saw
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: finally in the box score ejected AND i, said, well, Now,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: suoner we're certain he in a situation late in an
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: extra inning, game he would. NOT i, mean there's a
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: potential he could have come. IN i understand what you're.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Saying he threw a lot of, pitches but he's kind
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: of a rubber arm. Guy ideally you wouldn't want to use.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Him but If i'm the manager of the you, know
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: If I'm, Kurt i'm not a big fan of anyone
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: being down for that. Reason so maybe that's the Last.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah if you're on the if you're on the injured,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: list have at, it have your.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Fun.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: YEAH i think he threw thirty pitches a day. Before
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: but you're, right he's a rubber. Arm he might be
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: needed in the fourteenth, inning whatever it is to get
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: a lefty. Out so not a very smart play for
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: from a pretty smart. Guy Uh so that's a little.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Surprising let's quote the show will talk a little bit
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: About friday's. Game, boy it was a tight. Game in
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the seventh, inning The angels had a one run. Lead
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Ryan Zephyr john comes in After by the, way another
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: great start From Walbert. Arena he watched the number nine,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Batter Cedric mullins gets ahead Of yandi Diez ozho and
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: two there was a fastball on the outside corner that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: was called the Ball LOGAN o'hoppi did not.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Challenge here's where that pitch. Was, now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: This was a tough no. Challenge The angels had both
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: of their challenges left at the. Time not sure why
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: he didn't. CHALLENGE i don't know if he was just
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: not set up right on that down the. Middle, yeah
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: and he kind of had the lunch for, it which
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: may have given him the impression that was it was
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: more outside than it. Was was that your impression seeing
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it ON?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Tv my memory is not what he used to.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: BE i THINK i might have messaged that to, you
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: AND i believe now THAT i. Did but it did
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: seem strange to me why he had positioned himself more
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: or less down the. Middle it was a, fastball so
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: unless it was a, cutter BUT i believe it was
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: just as as forcing. Possible so while you're stetting up
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: down the middle For Yondi diaz for a fastball was
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: a little. Bewildering so WHAT i think it was was
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: he got a little bit crossed. Up maybe the glove
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you know darted in front of the eyes to some
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: degree and he just wasn't quite, Sure AND i guess
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: when in, DOUBT i probably wouldn't challenge. EITHER i obviously
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: came back to really burn, Them so that's the. Downside
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: BUT i think it goes back to the beginning with
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: what was the what was the original pitch call and
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: was it just, well actually, here here's WHAT i was. Thinking,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: further now THAT i recall what Has Zephyr john done
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of this? Year and it's, sneaky but they've
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: mentioned he's hit a lot of, batters.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Hit a lot of batters and locked a lot of bears,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: here so.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: He's hit a lot of, guys AND i wonder if
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: there's a little bit of an issue and some sort
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: of him being uncomfortable seeing a target that's more towards
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the inner part of the. Plate so if that is the,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: case that would probably be the justification for, IDEALLY i
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: think they were trying to STUFF yondi up and in
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: that's WHERE i would pitch. Him he's got a very
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: flat bat swing. Path he did a lot of. Damage
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: he's got enormous biceps. Too if anyone was, wondering and,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: no REALLY i, mean it's just a he, man but
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: uh so you're gonna want to pound him. Inside and
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: my gut says that they were trying to set up
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: where you, Know Zephyr John get you, know visually likes
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: the look of. It, unfortunately he yanked the pitch and
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: it went towards the outer part of the. PLANET i
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: could be totally, wrong that's my guess as to WHAT
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: i think was going, on you, know behind all of.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: It to begin.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: With, yeah next, Pitch dio's hit a hanging sweeper for
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: two run homer and they end up scoring was a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: seven runs that inning for an eight to five. Win
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: but once, Again irania another great. Start six, innings, pitch five,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: hits one an, run three, walks still a little, high
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: five strikeouts lowered as he lowered his e rate to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: two point five to three and eight. Starts AND i don't,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: know watch, you but what really impressed me about this,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: again this is a twenty two year old. Kid mind,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you he got INTO i think two on jams in the, fourth, third,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: fourth and six innings pitched out of. Him every time
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: when a kid that age and with his arsenal is
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: doing those kinds of, things is that sort of that
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: next level, maturity and this kid really seems to solidified
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: a spot in this rotation for.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: SURE i have a question for.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: You an alternate reality and The angels are going to
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: a one game do or die wild card.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Game who were you penciling in to?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Start for, me it depends on how guys are throwing the.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Ball it's gonna Come siano Or. Iringe i'd go With.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: URANIA i think his stuff right. NOW i don't know
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: if it's that sinker change up combo when you you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: hitting the big leads or, not but it seems like
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: those pitches play off each other really, well Because i'm
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: guessing he's got that, tunnel the same, tunnel the same
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: release point for both those, pitches and as a, hitter
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: whether you're righty or, left and he's throwing that change
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: up to righty's it's not just you, know usually the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: change up from a right hitter is a weapon against.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Lefties he's throwing it to both Lefty, rightyes and it
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: just seems to have a moxie on the mound that
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you certainly don't see from you, know kids that age
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: who are not Named Paul. Skeins so, YEAH i. GUESS
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: i Guess i'd go with him right, now how about.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: You it's not a knock On, Jose sorry. ON i,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: mean it's fantastic year so. Far some of the starts
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a little better than. Others But walbert is incredibly. Composed
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: as we've, SAID i don't, know is that something you can?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: TEACH i think to some. Degree but you, know he's
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: also really you, know he is an. Experience BUT i
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: think one thing he gave up the leadoff home run.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: To, diaz and.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: This is something that, guys you, know some of The angels,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: pictures you don't need to name, names but when they
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: get hit hard or give up a, homer sometimes it
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't you, know it spirals on. Him this, Guy i'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: not going to use the, slang but he doesn't seem
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: to really. Care it was like it didn't happen or it,
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: did and it's not a big. Deal it's a solo home.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Run so What he's given his team a chance to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: win each and every time. HIM i wouldn't look at
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: the one lost record. Whatsoever i'd look at the you,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: know the quality of his, pitches the opposing. HITTERS i
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: don't see anyone now that he did give up that
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: opposite field home. Run but it DOESN'T i mean a
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: lot of weak. CONTACT i don't think that hitters really
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: understand or have a game plan how to combat him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Yet that's WHAT i see. Now that may change a little.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Bit but when they're, LOOKING i guarantee in their scouting
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: reports and trying to figure out how to attack, him
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: it's got to be very confusing because no one's had much.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Success he throws as hard, well misseroskie probably but the
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: top you, know five hardest throwing starters in the. Game
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: but he also has tremendous, movement and then he's got
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to wipe out change up that he's more liable to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: throw than his near one hundred mile an hour. Fastball
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: so good.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Luck you.
• 33:51
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