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- 0:09Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
- 0:12Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network. Detroit Tiger's podcast. I'm Kierri Steckley.
- 0:15Speaker 1: With me is always a man who claims that in
- 0:17Speaker 1: flight Wi Fi is the greatest invention in the history
- 0:20Speaker 1: of mankind. He is Cody Stavenaggan.
- 0:22Speaker 2: How you doing, Hey, Well, the in flight Wi Fi
- 0:25Speaker 2: was certainly needed today.
- 0:27Speaker 3: We're in the emergency pod club. Baby, we are doing this.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I've been in this Airbnb in Lakeland, Florida for maybe
- 0:33Speaker 2: about twenty minutes. We are finally getting to you guys
- 0:36Speaker 2: with the reaction. Obviously, the Tigers signed Justin Verlander today,
- 0:42Speaker 2: but as we learned throughout the course of the day,
- 0:45Speaker 2: there is a little bit more going on. Resulsen is
- 0:47Speaker 2: out for the season. So I think right away I'm
- 0:50Speaker 2: kind of posing the question like, well, this is fun, right,
- 0:52Speaker 2: this is awesome. I Am not trying to throw cold
- 0:55Speaker 2: water on that, but did the Tigers actually get better today?
- 0:59Speaker 2: You get forty two going on forty three year old
- 1:02Speaker 2: Justin f Erlander, but you lose a really talented young
- 1:04Speaker 2: started and Resulson. I think the Tigers got a lot
- 1:07Speaker 2: more fun today, but did they get better today?
- 1:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll answer that no, because like to well, look
- 1:16Speaker 1: like this is a weird thing to say, And I'm
- 1:18Speaker 1: wearing my old pull out the twenty thirteen postseason T
- 1:22Speaker 1: shirt from lower than the drawer here. I'm excited, so
- 1:25Speaker 1: I want anything to be counter to that. However, to
- 1:30Speaker 1: say that they unequivocally got better today, in my opinion,
- 1:34Speaker 1: is a little bit dismissive. I won't say disrespectful, but
- 1:38Speaker 1: a little bit dismissive of what Resulson brings to the table.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I will remind everybody that Reesulson last year and looking
- 1:47Speaker 1: at the numbers, thirteen starts obviously injury shortened.
- 1:51Speaker 4: Yeah, a three.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Fifteen era, there's a one point seven war pitcher, Like
- 1:54Speaker 1: this is a guy that as long as he's healthy,
- 1:58Speaker 1: like going into a season, which we thought up until
- 2:01Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that was the case. As
- 2:03Speaker 1: long as he's healthy going into a season, I'm gonna
- 2:06Speaker 1: like pick him to be like a dark horse All Star.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Like that's how much I respect the game of rees Oulson.
- 2:13Speaker 1: So for him to be out for the year, you
- 2:15Speaker 1: just I think he's too talented that you can never
- 2:18Speaker 1: almost never at this time get better when he's not
- 2:23Speaker 1: gonna be in your rotation. Okay, So so that that
- 2:27Speaker 1: would be my opinion on the matter. Now, the thing
- 2:29Speaker 1: that you said more fun is definitely more Hollywood.
- 2:32Speaker 4: It's definitely. It's definitely something.
- 2:35Speaker 1: That that Tigers fans everywhere have been I mean been
- 2:39Speaker 1: calling for. I'll say for my speak for myself, I
- 2:43Speaker 1: never really thought it would happen. And now we're just
- 2:46Speaker 1: in this nostalgic hunky dory time period, which will you know,
- 2:50Speaker 1: we can give it twenty four hours before any cold
- 2:52Speaker 1: water is poured on their cody. But but it is
- 2:56Speaker 1: at least, I will say with the Verlander piece, it's
- 3:00Speaker 1: not a retirement tour in and of itself, Like this
- 3:05Speaker 1: is somebody that I believe and I do my as
- 3:09Speaker 1: myself believe the Tigers think can actually be an impactful
- 3:13Speaker 1: player this year. So this wasn't just all right, bring
- 3:17Speaker 1: on Verlander and you know we're we all remember the
- 3:20Speaker 1: MIGGI tour and it was cool, but like we all
- 3:23Speaker 1: kind of understood the bigger picture, there wasn't very exciting.
- 3:26Speaker 1: This has the potential, the very rare threading of the
- 3:29Speaker 1: needle to have a hometown legend like in terms of
- 3:33Speaker 1: his first team, a hometown legend come back and the
- 3:36Speaker 1: team is actually competitive and competing for championship championships. You know,
- 3:43Speaker 1: with him back in tow and by the way the
- 3:47Speaker 1: way he ended the season last year, he would definitely
- 3:49Speaker 1: be a contributor. Wouldn't be a charity case.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Yeah, to just put the Ulson news outside out of
- 3:54Speaker 2: mind for a little bit, like the Verlander The fact
- 3:57Speaker 2: Verlander's back is awesome, right, This is what fans have
- 3:59Speaker 2: been clamoring for a long time in this offseason.
- 4:02Speaker 3: It was actually the first time I was on.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Board with it because if the Tigers were going to
- 4:06Speaker 2: add another starter, and if they were poking around Chris Bassett,
- 4:09Speaker 2: Lucas Giolito, why not just get the guy who's a
- 4:12Speaker 2: franchised legend and who happened to have a really good
- 4:14Speaker 2: second half last year, a sub three ERA in his
- 4:18Speaker 2: final thirteen starts. It seemed like last year when healthy
- 4:21Speaker 2: Justin Verlander was really good. I think he still has
- 4:24Speaker 2: as much as, if not more upside than those other guys.
- 4:27Speaker 2: I say the resultsan thing because like, not out of
- 4:30Speaker 2: not to discredit Verlander, but like you, because I think
- 4:32Speaker 2: Resultson is very good and also has maybe more upside
- 4:37Speaker 2: to be unlocked.
- 4:39Speaker 3: But you're going to.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Be rounding out your team with a future Hall of Famer.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Maybe the Tigers finally listened to me and my pleas
- 4:47Speaker 2: to like bring a little edge and a little aura
- 4:50Speaker 2: into the clubhouse because they just did it in a
- 4:52Speaker 2: big way. That room's going to be different with Justin
- 4:54Speaker 2: Erlander in there. But you know, whatever bad might come
- 4:58Speaker 2: of it, I think some good is going to come
- 5:00Speaker 2: out of it too. The days of the Tigers just
- 5:02Speaker 2: being young and you don't want to mess with the chemistry,
- 5:04Speaker 2: Like I said, that's over.
- 5:05Speaker 3: You're here to win.
- 5:07Speaker 2: I think the fact that the Tigers went out and
- 5:08Speaker 2: did this signals that they are here and focused in
- 5:11Speaker 2: an intent on winning, because they easily just could have
- 5:14Speaker 2: rolled out. Kieran, I think you were gonna bring this up.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Cater Montero, saw your gibson law Ty Madden. We'll see
- 5:20Speaker 2: who emerges in Triple A this year Andrew Sears. Instead
- 5:23Speaker 2: of going that route, they said, no, let's go get
- 5:26Speaker 2: Justin Verlander. And to announce that on the eve of
- 5:29Speaker 2: spring training, right, that's pretty fun. It's pretty poetic.
- 5:32Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of emotion and nostalgia.
- 5:35Speaker 2: When Verlander is shown up at camp this week, people
- 5:38Speaker 2: are gonna buy jerseys all over again. People are gonna
- 5:40Speaker 2: buy tickets to games, and that part of it is
- 5:43Speaker 2: truly great.
- 5:46Speaker 4: So yeah too.
- 5:48Speaker 1: And we'll get to the you know, the other options
- 5:50Speaker 1: that were on the table here in a second. But
- 5:53Speaker 1: to just kind of tie up some just informational pieces here,
- 5:57Speaker 1: so rees Olsen, it's a right shoulder labor and repair,
- 6:02Speaker 1: and he had the surgery on February second, all right,
- 6:06Speaker 1: and obviously I put him on sixty day IL blah
- 6:08Speaker 1: blah blah, all the procedural things. Jackson Job also there
- 6:11Speaker 1: on the sixty day IL, which I mean you talk
- 6:13Speaker 1: about two guys at this time last year. I mean
- 6:15Speaker 1: this is why baseball it can. You know, as as
- 6:19Speaker 1: much as you like multi year plans and projecting things out,
- 6:23Speaker 1: baseball has other plans for you. Because at this time
- 6:26Speaker 1: last year you were looking at Olsen and Job as
- 6:29Speaker 1: sort of like young anchors of an up and coming staff.
- 6:31Speaker 1: And now we'll see about Joe, but like for the
- 6:34Speaker 1: most part this season, you're not going to get anything
- 6:36Speaker 1: out of there. And then Verlander, it's a one year deal.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I don't remember if we said this one year, dear,
- 6:42Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars and eleven of which is the third
- 6:46Speaker 1: that and that starts in the year twenty thirty. So
- 6:49Speaker 1: and we'll talk about from BER's contract here in a second.
- 6:52Speaker 1: But another example of the Tigers kind of going back
- 6:55Speaker 1: about things a little bit differently. And look, we had
- 7:00Speaker 1: a J. Hinch on our show, Cody Uh. I was
- 7:04Speaker 1: gonna say a couple weeks ago. It was just last week.
- 7:06Speaker 1: It feels like a couple of weeks ago, actually, but
- 7:09Speaker 1: we had.
- 7:09Speaker 4: Them on our show.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And then since then, the Tigers have just made a
- 7:13Speaker 1: series of moves that have been geared to toward winning.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Now because I remember that day, there were like stories
- 7:19Speaker 1: online it's like, are the Tigers actually trying to win.
- 7:21Speaker 4: The Central Well, it's hard to say. They're not.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Right now, you could, you could, you could put a
- 7:27Speaker 1: pin in in that so the way I would classify
- 7:31Speaker 1: it Verlanders the headliner. But I still believe that Reesulson,
- 7:35Speaker 1: that piece of it is a quote bigger deal. So
- 7:38Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Fromber's contract detail, some interesting stuff
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- 8:54Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, I will say this, you
- 8:57Speaker 1: know tie a bone the Verlander thing for second I
- 9:01Speaker 1: last episode I mentioned you know text to Cody. Well,
- 9:05Speaker 1: I'm gonna add one real quick on this episode, text
- 9:08Speaker 1: to Cody will include, so, how is Verlander like the
- 9:12Speaker 1: Old Guard and the new you know the the you
- 9:16Speaker 1: know the new like Star Schoogle Verlander? How is that dynamic?
- 9:20Speaker 1: And how is he fitting in uh with everybody else?
- 9:22Speaker 1: And even if you go back to like Casey Myz
- 9:24Speaker 1: who at one time, you know, he was obviously drafted
- 9:26Speaker 1: to be something like a Justin Verlander for the Tigers
- 9:29Speaker 1: number one overall, so we got just how is that
- 9:32Speaker 1: all fitting together?
- 9:33Speaker 4: The Jake Rogers thing.
- 9:33Speaker 1: I'm sure Jake's gonna have funny things to say about
- 9:36Speaker 1: that whenever he's available. So, uh, that will also be
- 9:39Speaker 1: a text to Cody. A text I don't have to
- 9:42Speaker 1: send the Cody is what are the details of the
- 9:45Speaker 1: Fromberg contract? Because we were literally just talking about it.
- 9:48Speaker 1: It's like, ohay, they said there were deferrals, Like what
- 9:50Speaker 1: does that mean? Like, what are the actual numbers? Well,
- 9:53Speaker 1: we have it now, So this is coming straight from
- 9:58Speaker 1: the Tigers. They have agree to terms on a three
- 10:01Speaker 1: year contract one hundred and fifteen million dollars guaranteed. Valdez
- 10:09Speaker 1: will earned base salaries of seventeen fifties are trying to
- 10:11Speaker 1: read seventeen fifty during the twenty twenty six sees and
- 10:13Speaker 1: thirty seven fifty is obviously in the millions during the
- 10:16Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven season and thirty five million during the
- 10:20Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight season. He has the right to opt
- 10:22Speaker 1: out follow the twenty twenty seven season, and if you
- 10:25Speaker 1: guys are.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Let me simplify those for you guys. He's going to
- 10:28Speaker 2: make one hundred and fifteen million. Twenty million of that
- 10:32Speaker 2: is assigning bonus for the first year that has deferred
- 10:34Speaker 2: until twenty thirty. Now, obviously you can opt out after
- 10:38Speaker 2: the second year, but if he stays for the third year,
- 10:40Speaker 2: there's then a mutual option for twenty twenty nine at
- 10:43Speaker 2: forty million. There are also a bunch of incentoms throughout
- 10:46Speaker 2: the contract, like there are most contracts. He wins the
- 10:49Speaker 2: cy youong, He'll get a bonus two million, he wins
- 10:52Speaker 2: a World Series MVP two million, fun stuff like that.
- 10:56Speaker 2: So those are the details of from Bravaldoz. Twenty million
- 10:59Speaker 2: of that hundred and fifteen million contractors deferred.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that? How about that Cody?
- 11:06Speaker 1: A couple contract deferrals that the Tigers have opted in.
- 11:10Speaker 2: For others have said the Tigers have joined the club
- 11:12Speaker 2: of ruining baseball. I'm also going to have to brush
- 11:17Speaker 2: up on my labor knowledge and my CBT knowledge. I
- 11:20Speaker 2: think the Tigers are just knocking on the door of
- 11:23Speaker 2: the collective bargaining the first collective bargaining text threshold. With
- 11:27Speaker 2: the Verlanders signing, I think they're going to come in
- 11:29Speaker 2: right under. Some of the payroll projections out there are different,
- 11:32Speaker 2: so I'm gonna have to do some.
- 11:33Speaker 3: Of my own math and see.
- 11:35Speaker 2: We know the Tigers have signed a bundle of pitchers
- 11:37Speaker 2: on minor league deals and other players on minor league deals.
- 11:40Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just a second. With one
- 11:43Speaker 2: point five two million plus guaranteed. So it no longer
- 11:47Speaker 2: seems unfathomable that the Tigers could exceed the luxury texts threshold.
- 11:51Speaker 2: We're not even to the trade deadline. What if they
- 11:54Speaker 2: acquire a player there, or could that prohibit.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Them from acquiring a player?
- 11:59Speaker 2: This is a brave new world, certainly for Scott Harris,
- 12:02Speaker 2: but probably even more so for Chris Ilich.
- 12:05Speaker 3: The Fromber contract.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Look, that's not gonna happen without your owner being willing
- 12:10Speaker 2: to put his stamp on it, and then getting Verlander
- 12:12Speaker 2: in the door. You know, are those things related? Was
- 12:15Speaker 2: that strictly a reaction to losing Reesulson. Maybe we'll get
- 12:18Speaker 2: some of the answers to that. Maybe we'll never fully
- 12:21Speaker 2: know how all those things went down, but man, things
- 12:25Speaker 2: certainly feel a lot different than they did about a
- 12:28Speaker 2: week ago when neither from Ervald that was when we're
- 12:31Speaker 2: justin Verlander were Detroit Tigers.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is the starting five right now for
- 12:37Speaker 1: the Tigers. Harry Skoogle from Bervalde is Jack Flaherty, Casey
- 12:40Speaker 1: Maiz justin Verlander, and you know, different is kind of
- 12:44Speaker 1: the the the underlining kind of word of the last
- 12:47Speaker 1: like week or so for the Tigers. And I did
- 12:50Speaker 1: want to come back to this. Scott Harris has made
- 12:55Speaker 1: it a point to emphasize development and to not block
- 13:00Speaker 1: opportunities for young players. There is a very real world
- 13:04Speaker 1: coding and not an unreasonable one. I would say that
- 13:09Speaker 1: the Tigers, with the resource and news decided all right,
- 13:13Speaker 1: it is Troy Melton time. Uh, you know, we got
- 13:15Speaker 1: Drew Anderson that we just you know, brought back into
- 13:18Speaker 1: the organization. You know, Cater Martine Montero, Uh, like is
- 13:24Speaker 1: obviously somebody that at times had I mean the last
- 13:26Speaker 1: time we saw him, he was pitching very well in
- 13:29Speaker 1: a pivotal situation. Right, So this is somebody that they
- 13:32Speaker 1: obviously believe in and have believed in over the course
- 13:34Speaker 1: of several years to be a part of the rotation
- 13:38Speaker 1: or at least be on the pitching staff at the
- 13:40Speaker 1: major league level. And then Sawyer Gibson Loong another one
- 13:43Speaker 1: that I do believe they don't want to give up on. Uh,
- 13:47Speaker 1: why not just roll with you know, all right here
- 13:50Speaker 1: you go, you know, roll the ball out to the
- 13:51Speaker 1: mound and say who wants it? You know, with with
- 13:54Speaker 1: this recent news, why not do that because I feel
- 13:56Speaker 1: like most of the years they would have done that.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it's look for evidence of that. I got the
- 14:04Speaker 2: notification that the Tigers had announced this move in the
- 14:08Speaker 2: back of Newburgh on the way to the airport on
- 14:10Speaker 2: the way to spring training, and I like triple checked it,
- 14:14Speaker 2: like hit back hit the tweeted like this is the
- 14:16Speaker 2: official Tigers account. Right at that point, I don't think
- 14:19Speaker 2: anyone else had reported it. It had not been rumored
- 14:22Speaker 2: in any tangible way. It's a reminder that of two things.
- 14:25Speaker 2: The Tigers move in silence. They almost never sign the
- 14:28Speaker 2: people that sometimes us and a lot more times others
- 14:32Speaker 2: say they are quote interested in. And sometimes when they
- 14:36Speaker 2: do sign people, no one sees it coming. That mostly
- 14:38Speaker 2: happened with from Bervaldez and Justin Ferlander. They also signed
- 14:41Speaker 2: people like when I'm traveling, just like clock where Kimny Jansen,
- 14:45Speaker 2: I was at an airport at labor.
- 14:46Speaker 3: Tour as I was traveling last year.
- 14:48Speaker 2: So if I'm at an airport, the odds of the
- 14:50Speaker 2: Tigers deals are going up.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you the The notion that the Tigers,
- 15:01Speaker 1: you know, moving silence is very true and and a
- 15:05Speaker 1: little bit not because I feel like this is actually
- 15:07Speaker 1: significant enough that we don't want to not to mention it.
- 15:10Speaker 1: But Jeff passing through that little last sentence in there
- 15:14Speaker 1: in his in his announcement tweet, you know Verlander going
- 15:18Speaker 1: back to the team that you know whose cap he
- 15:21Speaker 1: will wear in Cooper's town, which is something that Verlanders
- 15:26Speaker 1: has kind of, I think correctly from his perspective, like
- 15:29Speaker 1: avoided talking about and then something that I was unsure
- 15:34Speaker 1: whether that would be the case, but passive.
- 15:36Speaker 4: Put it out there. I would assume for a reason.
- 15:38Speaker 1: So uh, that kind of get that that it contributed
- 15:42Speaker 1: I think to the good feels in tiger Land today, Cody.
- 15:47Speaker 2: So many minutes and how much ink will be devoted
- 15:50Speaker 2: to what hat will Justin Verlander wear in Cooper's town?
- 15:55Speaker 2: It sure seems more likely to be a Tiger's hat
- 15:57Speaker 2: now that he's back.
- 15:58Speaker 3: We'll see how this goes. And then two point later,
- 16:00Speaker 3: like is this a farewell tour?
- 16:01Speaker 2: Like I think he said before, he wants to pitch
- 16:03Speaker 2: until he's forty five, So maybe it's one more season
- 16:07Speaker 2: here and then one more season in Houston, or maybe
- 16:09Speaker 2: he you know, I there, there's still plenty to be
- 16:13Speaker 2: decided in that front.
- 16:15Speaker 1: I think, well, maybe maybe at the end of his
- 16:18Speaker 1: career he'll sign like dual one day contracts so he
- 16:21Speaker 1: can retire as a as a Houston Tiger or something
- 16:24Speaker 1: like that. All Right, anything else on the pitching stuff, Cody,
- 16:28Speaker 1: before we move on to the other other moves.
- 16:31Speaker 3: There's a lot, right.
- 16:31Speaker 2: The one the one criticism I'm gonna have here resols
- 16:34Speaker 2: an ad surgery on February second.
- 16:37Speaker 3: The Tigers didn't say nothing about that.
- 16:39Speaker 2: It's anybody there was kind of that brief inkling out
- 16:43Speaker 2: there that he might not be ready for opening Day,
- 16:45Speaker 2: and that's about all that anybody knew. And I had
- 16:47Speaker 2: talked to people in the Tigers organization over the past
- 16:50Speaker 2: week and they.
- 16:51Speaker 3: Conveniently did not mention any word of any of that.
- 16:55Speaker 2: So like, look, if you're running the team, right, there's
- 16:59Speaker 2: a lot to navigate. Eight their MB rules, there's hippa,
- 17:02Speaker 2: there's stuff like that.
- 17:03Speaker 3: But my one.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Criticism, like, was it a little disingenuous that people just
- 17:07Speaker 2: got to get excited and riled up and buy tickets
- 17:10Speaker 2: and then we're gonna save Oh yeah, by the way,
- 17:12Speaker 2: resouls and had surgery eight days ago and isn't gonna
- 17:15Speaker 2: pitch until the end.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Like maybe that's just how it has to go.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Down when you're dealing with the league office and hippa
- 17:21Speaker 2: and stuff. But as a journalist, I don't I don't
- 17:25Speaker 2: like how that unfold is.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Well, again, chronologically, it was very fascinating Verlander announced it,
- 17:32Speaker 1: and then the deal with the Fromber and then the
- 17:34Speaker 1: Resouls the news. Because we've been able to do a
- 17:37Speaker 1: podcast immediately after the Verlander news, it had been outdated
- 17:40Speaker 1: three hours later. So sometimes sometimes there's.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Use phone calls the ticket office, you know, they Oh man,
- 17:51Speaker 2: I will say though when one my first thought when
- 17:54Speaker 2: the Verlander thing came up was like, oh, that's probably
- 17:57Speaker 2: not good for results, and like, given the thing that
- 18:00Speaker 2: was out there, is like, okay, this probably answers that question.
- 18:03Speaker 2: We don't know for sure, but that immediately jumped in
- 18:06Speaker 2: my mind.
- 18:07Speaker 1: And again I think I say this out of respect
- 18:11Speaker 1: for what Reese can do, like this is part of this,
- 18:15Speaker 1: This is part of the story of the day. The
- 18:17Speaker 1: Verlander things awesome for all the right reasons. This sucks
- 18:21Speaker 1: for all the you know, all the same reasons, you know,
- 18:24Speaker 1: just on the other side. So hopefully Reese has a
- 18:27Speaker 1: good rehabit he can come back in twenty twenty seven
- 18:29Speaker 1: and be the picture that you and I believe him
- 18:31Speaker 1: to be. But for now, it's uh, it's the Verlander
- 18:34Speaker 1: show at the end of that rotation.
- 18:36Speaker 3: More intimidating justin Erland or Resolson.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Well, they got they got quite different auras. That's what
- 18:45Speaker 1: the kids say, right, they got they got quite different auras.
- 18:48Speaker 1: So I'll have to well we'll have to monitor that
- 18:51Speaker 1: throughout the year. All right, let's uh, let's go to
- 18:56Speaker 1: another move that look it's not sexy compared to these
- 18:59Speaker 1: other things that we talked about. That, but the Tigers
- 19:01Speaker 1: did make an addition to their organization in the form
- 19:05Speaker 1: of one Austin Slater. It's a minor league deal, but
- 19:09Speaker 1: if he gets to the majors, there's you know, there's
- 19:11Speaker 1: some there's some financial incentives. The financial capital, I should say,
- 19:15Speaker 1: involved two million dollars. If he's a major league player
- 19:19Speaker 1: and he's a right handed hitter, he's a you know,
- 19:21Speaker 1: right handed outfielder. There's metrics there that I feel like
- 19:26Speaker 1: the Tigers.
- 19:27Speaker 4: Are gonna like.
- 19:29Speaker 1: And I would say, if there's a level between expected
- 19:35Speaker 1: solid contributor and insurance, I think I would put him
- 19:40Speaker 1: in between that. I don't know what that term is,
- 19:42Speaker 1: but that's kind of I think he's just his skill
- 19:45Speaker 1: sets are just enough there that maybe a couple of
- 19:48Speaker 1: people might have a like, oh, Slater's behind me there,
- 19:52Speaker 1: I probably should get my end gear so that that's.
- 19:56Speaker 2: My I don't know if he's going to be like
- 19:58Speaker 2: pushing for a job if everyone's healthy, but he's certainly
- 20:01Speaker 2: depth and pretty quality depth.
- 20:03Speaker 3: Right.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Austin Slater not a great player. Actually, when this news broke,
- 20:07Speaker 2: I was like, oh, Wow, is this going to be
- 20:09Speaker 2: a major league deal? I quickly found out it was
- 20:11Speaker 2: going to be a minor league deal and then looked
- 20:12Speaker 2: and was like, oh, he's not as good as I
- 20:14Speaker 2: thought he was. I think he'd been negative war maybe
- 20:17Speaker 2: each of the past two years. But he does feel
- 20:21Speaker 2: like a Tiger in a lot of ways. I think
- 20:23Speaker 2: two years ago, actually, I pegged him as someone who
- 20:26Speaker 2: might make sense for the Tigers. Versatile outfielder like moves
- 20:30Speaker 2: well and happens to hit lefties. So again, I think
- 20:35Speaker 2: there are a lot of candidates if they're injuries in
- 20:37Speaker 2: the outfield or if Jami Jones can't replicate what he
- 20:39Speaker 2: did a year ago. We never got around to talking about.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Corey Jolks also signed on a minor league deal. Very
- 20:45Speaker 2: similar player, right, very good against left handed pitching, some
- 20:48Speaker 2: similarities to Jami Jones. So yeah, these are guys right
- 20:53Speaker 2: now that don't feel flashy, that aren't getting people to
- 20:57Speaker 2: call the season ticket office. But I wouldn't be shocked
- 20:59Speaker 2: if we see at least one of those dudes at
- 21:01Speaker 2: some point throughout the season. Just look at what happened
- 21:04Speaker 2: last year. You signed Manuel Margo and Ryan Kreidler. What's
- 21:07Speaker 2: your opening day centerfielder, because injury hit you.
- 21:09Speaker 3: So hard, so you never know.
- 21:11Speaker 2: You're getting some guys who can hit lefties and have
- 21:13Speaker 2: some memob experience, they're they're worse things than that.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Yeah, when you say hit lefties, what we mean is
- 21:20Speaker 1: in his career two sixty seven batting average with a
- 21:23Speaker 1: seven eighty seven OPS against left l.
- 21:26Speaker 3: That'll play it. Just don't have a lot else and
- 21:28Speaker 3: that can play.
- 21:30Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I'm not going to pretend to have
- 21:32Speaker 1: like a huge scouting report on him, but he does
- 21:34Speaker 1: profile as somebody who would be more trusted in the
- 21:37Speaker 1: field than one Jami Jones, Right, So that's that's something
- 21:41Speaker 1: that is I would say a factor. And then again,
- 21:45Speaker 1: if you look at the construction of the Tigers outfield
- 21:48Speaker 1: as much as we say, like you know Parker the
- 21:52Speaker 1: potential what he can do, carry Carpenter with the bat, right, Like,
- 21:58Speaker 1: each one has their own kind of level of concern.
- 22:01Speaker 4: That something things could change pretty quickly out there.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Again, Green injury, Carpenter, injury, meadows like can you.
- 22:09Speaker 4: Figure it out barely?
- 22:10Speaker 1: And we don't know, Like there's a lot of stuff
- 22:12Speaker 1: that like could be good to be uneasy. So these
- 22:15Speaker 1: kind of signings are could prove very important.
- 22:17Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Maybe something we should actually be talking a little more about,
- 22:21Speaker 2: what does the outfield actually look like?
- 22:23Speaker 3: What happens if.
- 22:24Speaker 2: One of those scenarios you've just laid out comes to fruition,
- 22:27Speaker 2: the kind of the makeup construct, Like, there could just
- 22:29Speaker 2: be a lot of dominoes that fall if there's one
- 22:32Speaker 2: injury or if Parker Meadow's struggles. Yeah, I think that's
- 22:37Speaker 2: something that the guys upstairs and aj Hinch are thinking about,
- 22:40Speaker 2: probably more than has been discussed amongst us or amongst
- 22:43Speaker 2: really anyone in kind of the Tigers universe.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great video game outfield, but humans aren't
- 22:52Speaker 1: video game players, man, Like, There's some stuff that could happen,
- 22:55Speaker 1: you know, that negatively affect your season and potentially tank
- 22:59Speaker 1: if if it's the wrong thing.
- 23:00Speaker 4: So, all right, Cody, anything else before we jet out
- 23:04Speaker 4: of here on this Tuesday night.
- 23:07Speaker 2: I'm tired of breaking news for the day, and we
- 23:10Speaker 2: got a couple busy couple days ahead in Lakeland. Spring
- 23:12Speaker 2: training is here. We made it to the finish line.
- 23:15Speaker 2: We even got some fun stuff to talk about. Right
- 23:17Speaker 2: as we neared the finish line, So happy baseball seasons.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Everybody thinks for those who followed along all winter, and
- 23:23Speaker 2: thanks for those who maybe just now had their interest
- 23:27Speaker 2: piqued in coming aboard. We will be with you guys
- 23:29Speaker 2: all year long, so thanks again for listening.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Quite literally, we are just getting started.
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