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LOUD Buehler Ejection, Yamamoto's precision, Jared Jones surgery · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 3: Now, let's actually talk about something that got tested yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Let's charge the damn maund Walker Buehler got tossed in
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  Speaker 3: the third eting of yesterday's contest between the Red Sox
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  Speaker 3: and the Mets. Mets are like, all right, here we go.
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  Speaker 3: We got Bueller out of the game. Well, they still
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  Speaker 3: fell in the contest. Red Sox put together a nice
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  Speaker 3: pitching performance. I would like to show the beefiest part
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  Speaker 3: of what happened here, which comes after the game and
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  Speaker 3: involves Walker tweeting he's one of the few players who
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  Speaker 3: will put it out there on Twitter Bueller's day off.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see this?
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  Speaker 2: I did see a little bit of it. I did
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  Speaker 2: say I didn't see all of it. But maybe I
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  Speaker 2: did see the whole thing. Yeah, they were going with this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: who is this guy? By the way, is this just
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  Speaker 2: a random dude Jordan Moore? Yeah, anyone else?
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  Speaker 3: Blue check doesn't mean anything anymore, all right, So random
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  Speaker 3: dude and Jordan, if you're somebody that I'm missing, then
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  Speaker 3: please let me know. The corniest part of the Buehler
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  Speaker 3: ejection wasn't Lindor leaning into a pitch before like a loser.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not nice. He talked bleep, screaming and rooting for
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  Speaker 3: the ejection. That part's true, big loser energy. Weren't a
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  Speaker 3: fastball to the back. Tomar. If I'm the Red Sox Kratz,
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  Speaker 3: Bueller replies, I wouldn't want me out there either. Sad
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  Speaker 3: thing is the bullpen is full of bleeping animals. Tough choice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this was a whole thread. This is
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  Speaker 4: a whole thread. There was a lot going on Walkerhead
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  Speaker 4: some excited fingers to get onto the Twitter game and
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  Speaker 4: his Instagram game. But that, to me, that's the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 4: We'll break down what the umpire did, But to me,
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  Speaker 4: what's Lindor? Why is Lindor barking at him like so
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  Speaker 4: excited Lindor literally did lean in to get hit by
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  Speaker 4: the pitch. Now, it didn't hit his knee. I think
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  Speaker 4: Bueller thought it hit his knee, but it hit him
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  Speaker 4: in the toe. So Bueller was already hot. And then
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  Speaker 4: balls down the middle. But why why is Lindor, Why
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  Speaker 4: is Lindor trying to get him out of the game.
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  Speaker 4: I'm confused by his reaction on second base in that
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  Speaker 4: in that situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The moment of the game, Lindor throwing throwing some theatrics
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  Speaker 2: out there. You know, he one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: maybe he just into it. I throw him out, get
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  Speaker 2: him out. I listen the pictures right down the plate.
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  Speaker 2: He had every right to say something. Maybe maybe Bueller
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  Speaker 2: could have said it in a different way, like hey man,
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  Speaker 2: you know I had that right down the plate. You
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  Speaker 2: know he he got after him a little bit. And
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  Speaker 2: then esther Brook, as an umpire does, wants to be
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  Speaker 2: shown on TV like usual. Just let him get his
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  Speaker 2: his voice out there, talk something back and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can't stand that he went forward to make
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  Speaker 2: sure he was seen so he could bark back on
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  Speaker 2: whatever happened to an argument and people going at it
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  Speaker 2: with each other you know, I can't Scott call me,
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  Speaker 2: call me old fashioned?
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  Speaker 1: But what happened to the guy that used to beat
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  Speaker 1: each other? The beak of the brother used to bah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Now that's contact, that's like a suspension.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just no, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: was walk or wrong he was, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But man, let the guy get his point across. You
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  Speaker 2: missed the calls right down in the darn plate, Like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, man, geez.
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  Speaker 4: If you if you leave your position to argue a call,
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  Speaker 4: If you leave your position to argue a call, you're ejected.
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  Speaker 4: Why is an umpire not being held responsible for leaving
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  Speaker 4: his position? He doesn't need all he did. Originally, all
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  Speaker 4: he did was he came out and he said, get
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  Speaker 4: back on the mound because you know, it's speed up
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  Speaker 4: the game. He set his piece, get back on the mound.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't need to walk out in front of home
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  Speaker 4: plate pull his mask off like their needs to me,
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  Speaker 4: it can't be. It can't be just a one way street.
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  Speaker 4: It can't just be oh the picture. Should he have
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  Speaker 4: said what he said? Absolutely not, But he didn't say you.
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  Speaker 4: He said it was right down the middle he didn't
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  Speaker 4: say you missed it, he didn't say uf and he
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  Speaker 4: did curse, so he should have been gone. But who's
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  Speaker 4: escalated by Esterbrook? He can't, Like, you can't just how
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  Speaker 4: you expect a player in the heat of a moment,
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  Speaker 4: especially a pitcher who plays once every five days, and
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  Speaker 4: those dudes get wound up tight when they're ready to pitch,
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  Speaker 4: How do you expect him to just be like, Oh, okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine, I'll go back to the mound. No chance
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  Speaker 4: that dude would get shelled if you would see that.
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  Speaker 4: Not a chance that's gonna happen. Esterbrook escalated it to me, Bueller,
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  Speaker 4: Yes he got kicked out. There should be no fine.
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  Speaker 4: But major League Baseball won't won't have the spine to
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  Speaker 4: stand behind the player.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, because Esterbrook. Esterbrook is like it was almost like
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  Speaker 4: some dude was like, hey, come on, come on, hit me,
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  Speaker 4: hit me? What you won't You won't hit me? Come on,
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  Speaker 4: come on, And it was like, what is Bueller supposed
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  Speaker 4: to do? What is Bueller supposed to do in that situation?
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  Speaker 4: Not say a word. I don't condone the language he used,
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  Speaker 4: but I do condone talking numpires because if you don't,
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  Speaker 4: it's like in basketball, if you don't ever complain about fouls,
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  Speaker 4: your team's never gonna get calls in your favor that
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  Speaker 4: ball was missed. Esterbrooks should understand that he should not
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  Speaker 4: escalate the situation, but he did. And to me, Bueller,
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  Speaker 4: he has to have self control. I get it, But.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good call. You can say whatever you want.
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  Speaker 3: But in all levels of hoops, if you have combos,
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  Speaker 3: nice combos with refs, it's not going to hurt, you know,
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  Speaker 3: unless you tick the ref off.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But if they don't think you care and you don't
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  Speaker 3: point anything out ever, I mean, you played pretty good
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  Speaker 3: high school hoops, then they're just gonna leave everything alone.
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  Speaker 3: They're still human beings, right, So if you go to
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  Speaker 3: them and you're just like, hey, doing a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Just want to let you know, like this dude's you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's pinching me every time I go into the lane.
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  Speaker 3: He's just pinching me. Then he's gonna look because he's
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: a human being, and if he sees the pinch, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be.
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  Speaker 1: Like, get that, get that out of here.
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  Speaker 3: It's a weird, weird example, but it happened.
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  Speaker 1: It does it does. They're both in the wrong there.
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  Speaker 1: Put it this way.
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  Speaker 3: Punishment for esterbrook if Bueller has to pay a fine.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: He's not going to get a PUSUREM nothing. We don't
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  Speaker 1: have to go down there.
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: There'll be a combo. There will be a combo. I
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: will tell you this just from knowing some people that
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: oversee the Umps, like Joe Tory for a while and
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: is it my kill?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: They will call him krats and they will say, hey,
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: come on now. After that, I don't know because they
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: have a union too, and that depends on the byelines
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: of what they've got going on. But really, in today's world,
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: if you want to stop that stuff, he's got to
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: get seated and not get paid for a series.
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: That that's that's a that's a lot to me. If
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: it's a he needs to have a warning, and if
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: it's something that continually happens, then we start sitting because
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's his livelihood. But we just can't. We
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  Speaker 4: can't have umpires escalating a situation. And if you watch
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: all of Korra's mannerisms and everything through that, you saw
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: how much this bullpen needed Bueller to go. At least
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: five or six he was running out there and he's like,
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: oh man, He's like, how can you throw them out?
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  Speaker 4: Like now? And then he's on the bench and he
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: ended up getting their home runs selly, making their new
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: home run selly because he ripped the door off the
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: bullpen phone. And the rest of the game they were
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: just holding up the bullpen phone and every time somebody
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: hit a homer they tapped the bullpen phone like it
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: just says bullpen and it's the case on the outside.
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  Speaker 4: It was tremendous.
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  Speaker 2: It was great theater and kind of button it up.
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  Speaker 2: If we're talking about the umpire, they should be talked
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  Speaker 2: to about. You know, why didn't he call it a strike?
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  Speaker 2: That would be the conversation because maybe he got blocked,
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  Speaker 2: but it looked like he did have a view because
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  Speaker 2: it was on the right side of the catcher. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that made for good, good fun little game there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and afterwards too with the smack talking. So remember they
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  Speaker 2: got one more game today, so we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I g Bueler was like bullpen full of savages,
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  Speaker 3: brutal way to come back in horrendous spot to put
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  Speaker 3: those boys in, but huge team win. I'll be better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he owes those guys a little gift or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also you want that kind of guy on
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  Speaker 3: your team.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, but you also want him to go
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: five plus and get to win, and they did.
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: Don't forget how they want The Dodgers won the World
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: Series last year, who wasn't even supposed to pitch, and
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: they were like, he goes, yeah, right, give me the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm. How do you not want that guy?
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: You want them?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want the guy that on the team bus
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: on the way to the ballpark telling the manager I
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: want to pitch. Texting with the GM right, he was
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: doing all kinds of things just to try and be
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  Speaker 3: like I am legitimately available, and they're kind of laughing
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  Speaker 3: at him, and then later in the game they're like,
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: all right, yeah, actually, let's go take him up on
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: this offer and win a World Series. So you gotta
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: love it. That's why he's walker, bleep and bueller, that's
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: what they say. And lastly, Kratz to go back to
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about with the celebration. That should be
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: the celebration for them for the rest of the year.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know they're doing what the Wally Wally helmet.
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  Speaker 3: This is it, this is it. This is like a
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: winning selly. The other one is cute. I think this
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: should be the one you come back to the dugout,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: you pound the dugout phone and say we're going for
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: the jugular today every day? Do you agree?
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: Because it reminds you every time you see bullpen, it
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  Speaker 4: reminds you that some dudes had to wear it that night.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: They had to come out and wear it, and it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't just well, you know, we throw whoever out there.
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  Speaker 4: They wore it and Chapman closed it out. So if
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: you're like I'm grinding on the day game, I'm looking
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: at that bullpen door that Cora definitely needs to sign.
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  Speaker 4: Alex needs to put his signature behind it because he
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: was the one that ripped it off and that needs
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  Speaker 4: to be the selly. It's something that like motivates the
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: dudes like, all right, well I'm gonna get up because
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: the boys picked us up that one day. It just
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: reminds guys of a hard fought win against a really
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: good Mets team who's not playing great right now, but
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: still the team.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 3: You want something, though, would you say, next day I'll
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: make boys.
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  Speaker 1: There's gonna be shirts the next day.
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  Speaker 3: Wally mascot out shirts and we're doing the dugout phone
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  Speaker 3: from here on.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, there's gonna be the manager there, ready to freaking
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: punch a phone with that says what does it say
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: on the top of the phone bullpen or whatever it is?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Bullpen Yeah, bullpen, Yeah, just bullpen him in the bullpen, right,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: they'll be sure it's tomorrow. I would have him done
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: tomorrow and people would be buying them left right.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because this team's been okay. Talking about the Red Sox,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: they're twenty five and twenty five, I think most people
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: expected more from them at this point, but you could
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: still see them take off. It's not they've been okay.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: They've got Crochet going tonight too, so they're'll be just fine.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: They're in a good spot. They're four and a half
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: back of the first place Yankees, but obviously very much
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: involved in a conversation, whether it's for the division or
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: for a wild card, and I think most people expect
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: them to be contending the entire season, which for the
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Red Sox is actually something that hasn't been the case
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: the last few years. So they're kind of back. They're
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: back at least to contending, which is good. Hey, by
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: the way, I just saw this news popping up every
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: online now. Dan Wilson, manager of the Mariners, who are
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: playing pretty well so far this year. He announces Thursday,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: which is tomorrow. George Kirby pitching.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah me.
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  Speaker 4: Too, Okay, good, thank you. I feel like I'm on
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm kind of locked in enough. But
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: then I'm like, well, you know what, maybe it's three
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  Speaker 4: hour delay my news feed all that stuff. I didn't
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: see it coming. I thought it was gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: beginning of June.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Here we go, baby. So yeah, the Mariners will finish
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: up one more against the White Sox today, right, they're playing,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I think coming up in like twenty minutes. They lost yesterday,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: by the way, but hey whatever, I'll give them credit.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: They won the day before, they swept the Padres. They
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: destroyed the Padres. This past weekend they swept him good.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: But then this will be a good series coming up
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: for the extended weekend. You've got Kirby against mccullors on Thursday.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: It's fun for the names and the Kirby return. Mccullors
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: recently back Emerson Hancock against Ryan Gusto on Friday. More
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: of to prove it, guys, and then Saturday is Brian
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Wu against Franber Valdez. That's good stuff right there. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: they play Sunday. Castillo's schedule for the Mans. I'm not
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: sure if they have a TVD for the Astros, but hey,
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: this helps. This is good timing Crats to get Kirby back,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: not just for the rotation, but for the bullpen too.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they'll, baby, they'll ease him back in,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I said, baby, but eventually it'll be helpful for the bullpen.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Kirby's a guy that can get all the punch outs,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: or he can go innings. Sometimes he in the punch outs.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Be ready.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: It's a good one. It's a good one. Yeah, I'm
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: a big fan the Angels. The Angels is three and
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: a half out behind the Mariners right now. The vision
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: is crazy.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: They can't lose. I mean, I'm with you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not a believer.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: They're twenty two and twenty five. We were like, oh,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the A's they look kind of good. The A's are
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: twenty two and twenty seven. They're two worse than the
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: lost column after falling again yesterday, blowing up my bet.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your bets are tough.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're tough.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: They're tough.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not the same, but the Angels sweep the Dodgers
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: in well whatever in la in real la non nana
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: lah Yeah. John Hayman tweeted this morning Pirates source Paul
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Skeens is not getting traded. Quote no chance, no way,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: no how is the way I heard it. While there's
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a bit of logic to such a scenario, superstars just
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: aren't traded by anyone with one year service time, and
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: the Pirates remain determined to build around Skeens. This is
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: what I've been saying all along, is sure will he
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: could he get traded?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Now it's so early, you're not going to let this
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: go for at least a couple more years. I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: ardy Moreno, wouldn't even trade show Hee Tani with two
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: months of him left to spare? Right, he is a
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: money machine, Skeens on Skeen's day is a money machine.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Even with the Pirates being bad, you at least get
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit more. You can sell sponsorships around him. Krats,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: He's not stupid. Bob Nutting's not going to trade him
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: with four or five years left. With two years left
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: in a different GM, maybe saying this could change everything
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: for us. Sure, Now, no.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Look at the hall. Look at the hall that the
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Nationals got for Juan Soto. They're calling up shoot, I'm
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: forgetting his name. They're calling him up soon. He's like
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: the fourth piece of that of the wan.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: So jarln or Susannah, you're talking about the net.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: There's hassles, Yeah, hassle, and Susannah's good and hassle and
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: then obviously Wood and Abrams are nice returns.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: You're talking about four pieces. Don't forget Mackenzie Gore's in
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: there too, like you're talking about four pieces of now
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: on a big league team. If you say the Nationals
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: are kind of moving in that direction, if you're the Pirates,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: what could you get for a Paul Skins? To me,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: there's no no way, no how. You're not spending money.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: You're looking to make money off of this guy. So
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: this to me, if they don't ever even think about
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: trading him, think about getting an absolute haul for him,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: because Jared Jones just went down. Now you don't have
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: another piece of that rotation. You sit there and you go,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: they really don't want to win. You proved to us
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: they don't want to win you don't need an ace
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: of your staff for three years of non contention.
• 20:27
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• 20:30
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• 21:01
  Speaker 3: how corner Let's says, well, Yamamoto is the savior of
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers rotation right now. Carried a no into the seventh,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: ended up with seven shutty, one hit.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And unheard of seven innings.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Nine strikeouts. I know he raised down to one eight
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to six through his first ten starts of the season,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: and he had given up what eight runs over his
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: last eleven innings, so he read, and that included the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: clunker against the Diamondbacks two weeks ago.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That would imagine they start to go, imagine that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: They don't give him a lot of brunt support either.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: So he's pitching in tight games most of the time.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: He's this is a monster pickup here, this guy basically
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for him on the mound here, I mean,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: this is like an auto win, now, Cratzy. I mean, listen,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he goes on the mound given six to seven plus
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: each time, he's been fantastic. His fastball is working really well,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: and there you go the old zippity dude dunkarou after.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Oh god, just watching this on film masterpiece and he's
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of pitches that players cannot hit right now.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And with that, I do want to mention this Kratz.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: He deals the Diamondbacks tied the game up against big
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: money man tan Or Scott Gabriel Moreno has three homers
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: this year, they're all against the Dodgers. And then you
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: had Corbyn Carrol's homer in extras. Thought maybe they're going
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: to take another one and that would be a steal
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: of a dub. Dodgers came back tied it up Munsey
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: with the sackfly walk off. But that's what I'm talking about.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: That's a good game. You know, we're back to talking
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: a little more about the Dodgers again, But that was
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: a really fun late night contest to watch last night.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Oh totally. And the Dodgers are kind of reeling right now.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: They needed a start like this from Ylomono. But the
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: biggest thing for me was the adjustment he made from
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: the last start against Arizona. There's also a thing it
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: was in Arizona. I want to see what happen next
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: time he throws in Arizona, see if something wasn't working well.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: To me his last start, he wasn't throwing that splitter
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: down and out of the zone enough to the point
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: where he was able to locate his heater. So maybe
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: it was the mound. Maybe he just wasn't feeling it
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: that day. For me, it's about how does Yamamoto get
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: through an entire season healthy and still be the top
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: of this rotation coming into the playoffs. And unfortunately, like
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: like Todd said, he's the guy like he's almost like
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: an automatic win. You're only looking at twenty five starts
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: out of this guy. That's just the track record. That
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: is what the Dodgers are looking at. So your automatic
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: win all of a sudden goes out the window because
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: he has to skip a start, then the next you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: three rotations through, he's got to skip another start or
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: do they let him run and see where they are
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: at the end of the season. I don't think they're
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: gonna do that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, at some point you gotta have Snell Glass
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: now hopefully back in the second half, helping to pick
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: up some slack with innings.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they have a bunch of these pieces. They
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: just need them to come back.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's shoulders shoulders. Man.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: If they can get Snow going, I mean, I mean,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: whoever comes back, it's a plus. It's not like you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Aircrats is coming back.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a good pitching numbers, but.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: He couldn't gone spot.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I could throw forever. Just ask guys on
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: the team. I can throw forever. You just don't want
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: me out. There's a lot of runs scoring. But they
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: need you, Scott. Your hesitation right there was like they
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: need innings. This is crazy that we're talking about this.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: The Dodgers need innings And I'm not saying that's why Tanner.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Scott gave up a home run to an MVP candidate
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: and Corbyn Carroll, who at the time I think was
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: like two for twenty four against the Dodgers going into
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: that last at bat. But you sit there, you go,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: what is who is gonna throw us our innings? Because
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: you just can't have You can't have guys just take
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: big league innings the entire season and then go, oh
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: neat Blake, Snell, Tyler Glass, Snell, Yoshinobu Yellomoto are all
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: pitching our first three games of the playoffs like it
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: rarely works out that way. So they need guys to
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: keep their bullpen healthy by throwing more than four innings.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yep, fair, I want to ask you baseball. He question
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Kratz and watching the game last night, and Earl Hirschheiser
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: brought up how Yamamoto doesn't want the glove to just
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: be set up in a in an area or a direction.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: He wants precision. So he said, Will Smith will set
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: up for him almost exactly where he wants it. Obviously,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you don't want to set up too early if someone's
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: on second and get you location taken. But wanted to
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: get your thoughts on that because they talked about it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I think they were hitting a break soon and they did.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: That was the nasty buckler, the one that he looked
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: at that he located right before that. Herscheiser's talking about
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: how he wants like the precision spot. So oh, I'm
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: just curious how many guys were like that. And I know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, you spent a little bit of time with
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the Rays. Their whole thing is, hey, we're just gonna
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: set you up down the middle and let your stuff
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: play around. But what do you think of the way
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: that Yamamoto asks his catcher to give me the exact spot.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and nail it, and obviously it's on
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: a corner.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Usually I love it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I've argued about this since the all the pitch framing
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: metrics have come in. In my opinion, if your pitchers
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: aren't aiming small to miss small, then it's gonna be
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: larger missus. And as soon as you get into the
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: larger misses. Everywhere where you're throwing a pitch into, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: the nice zones where you can throw into to stay
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: away from their hot zones. They're directly located right next
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: to the hot zones for a hitter. So if a
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: guy hammers the ball down and in, he probably chases
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: farther down and in. So you have to be able
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: to make sure these guys are throwing to the exact
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: location that you want. And to me, you need to
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: have pinpoint accuracy. And it starts with a good target. Now,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: all that's out the window when you see I have
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: my met here. When you see guys nowadays, because I
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: was told, I was told in my last few years, oh,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter where you put your mint, not by pictures,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: because I would ask individual pictures and they'd be like, no,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I definitely need to see your mint. But guys do
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: this when they go, they flash it and then they
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: go whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Glove's going everywhere before
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: the pitch. And I was told, straight to my face,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: pitchers don't throw to the glove, just ask them. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: was like, at that point, I had eighteen years of
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: base of playing professional baseball, and I had never heard that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: And it's the rhetoric that is pushed now. And to me,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: a guy like Yamamoto, and this might be like a
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: gross generalization because I'm bringing up one of the best Japanese,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: if not the best Japanese pitcher I ever caught. Masa
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Hero Tanaka would do the exact same thing. We would
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: go to a scouting report and the one I remember
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: is Freddie Freeman. He's like, I found this weird, weird
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: stat that Freddy Freeman sucks at sliders or cutters up
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: in the zone. And I'm like, Masa, we are not
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: throwing sliders up in his owne. Those are hangers. He's like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I think it'll be a good idea. He's like, I
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: want to try it. So we did it. He goes,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: but make sure you're mitt is exactly where we need
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: to throw it. And I was like, okay. And Japanese
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: pitchers refine their mechanics so intricately that they repeat it
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: over and over again. They can dot a gnats behind
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: anytime they want with the pitchers that with the pitches
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: that they want. And he went out that game and flummixed,
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: absolutely twisted Freddy Freeman's scattered report. He was just like, huh,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: struck them out twice. He ended up putting a danger
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: later in the game against against Greeny against Chad green
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't muscle on the mound anymore. So that
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. It does happen, and some guys need
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: that precision location.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating. How come we can't get more of that,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Like you're explaining this for a couple of Japanese players.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: How come that's not more of a normal thing, Like
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: do you think it's a Japanese pro baseball cultural thing
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: that leads to this. Yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Very mechanical, very mechanical. They don't have they don't have
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: a toddfather going. Sometimes you just gotta go out there
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: and swing it and swing it dog like. They're very
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: balanced oriented. Everything is mechanical, Everything is repeated from a
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: young age. And I think they're coaching coaches that more.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I think here strictly talking about pitching, guys are taught
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: exactly what Eno just said. You ain't making You ain't
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: getting drafted unless you throw ninety six ninety seven in
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the first round. What kids like, I'd love to be
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: a tenth to fifteenth rounder. No, every kid is chasing velocity.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: They hit their pr they throw ninety one miles an hour.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: They're like, I'm buying heavy balls and throwing them into
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: a wall ten feet in front of me. Here we go.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Not I'm gonna I'm gonna just absolutely iron out my
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: mechanics perfect so that I can put the ball exactly
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: where I want it. There's not one. There's not one
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: pitching guru on Twitter, on Instagram that's putting videos out
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: there of like, here's how you refine your mechanics. No,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: it's here's how you throw a ball without looking at
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: it and watch the radar gun explode.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Like even the other day, I saw Noah's Cinderguard video
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: with him just doing one of those running throws.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And they're like, running, go, it's a running gun.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Running gun.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Running. They're like, oh, okay, I got it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: It's Ratrick.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's theatrics in Japan, krats.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: If you have no command, like, you're going to get
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: seriously burned, right, they're going to say, yep, not for
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: us here. If you have no command, They're like, we
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: might be able to get enough command that this will play.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just had you know.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Cyrus on the show earlier. Right, some of those guys
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: with their stuff plus numbers look fantastic, and their eras
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: look pooh pooh.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: The way selling this this right here, Yeah, this right
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: here might change the game. The challenge system. If guys
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: are able to truly command balls might change the game
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: because we're not going to get those calls wrong. We're
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: going to be able to as pitcheon coaches say, don't nibble,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: don't nip, We're gonna be able to nibble. It's not
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: just going to be your stuff versus my stuff.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: That's cool. Okay, let's take one other turn here Sho
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: heo tani rehab update, this one from Fabien Ardaya. Dave
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Roberts doesn't have a date for him to start facing hitters,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: but he incorporated breaking balls into his black round session today.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: A mother step forward for him because I know he
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: had a pen session last weekend, but there still were
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: no breaking balls. So now we at least have of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: flat ground breaking balls. Maybe next step is bullpen session
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: breaking balls. Already got the fastball and the splitter. So
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: this is the slowest rehab progress of all time.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Listen, it's slow.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: It's just what we talked about the Japanese.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: They take their time. I'm not saying, you know, that's
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: what the Dodgers want or.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: They hurt a billion and it's been heard.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: So let's take it slow. Take another week, take another month,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: let's go. Let's they'll be fine. They want to make
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: sure he's hun even if he's not a hundred Well,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: even things could go away, but they know they crossed
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: and checked off everything and went back and checked their
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: work at double time. And I think this is a
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: great idea.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: You know, the Dodgers have had like a slower time
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: period here. What they're about five hundred ish May. If
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the Padres were still on a heater and they were
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: like five six games up, crats. No, I'm not saying
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: they're going, all right, you're back tomorrow, but I wonder
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: if they're just like they're like Saturday, or they're like
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: no breakers yet. Let's get some breakers involved in the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: pen session. We don't have to wait a month to
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: get breaking balls into his bullpen sessions.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: No, not yet, No, no, no, not happening.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Not happened. We're talking about him playing catch. He knows
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: how to pitch. I bet there's some backup catchers that
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: have thrown as many flag rounds as Shohy has already.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: They're taking his time, their time.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Injury suck. You know, we do this once or twice
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: a week. I don't want to be too depressed. It's
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: middle of the week. But this is a big name
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: last year in the rotation for the Pirates and we
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: haven't seen him yet. And I don't know if we'll
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: see him the rest of the year. Jared Jones is
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: getting surgery in his right elbow. No specific details on
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: what the surgery is, and it's happening today. I don't
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: know if we've had any updates since then. But elbow surgery, youngster,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: you can usually do the math not good.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: So I mean interrupt, I'm sorry.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: He was injured, right, they didn't do surgery.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: He was injured cratzy right or wrong.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So he's been injured for a while.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he is out for the rest of the year,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: by the way.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: So to start the year and we're in May. I
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: mean it's been what give or take to and change months, right,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I mean was it in spring training?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well it was in spring training. He came
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: back in late April, not to the big league mound,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: but to throwing didn't go well.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So it's been about two months I mean two months
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: that he could have been rehabbing right now. This is
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: my problem with some doctors, And I'm not telling them
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: what to do or not. I know the people they
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: could come back do all this rehabbing and they'll be fine.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: That to me, that's I don't know. I don't see
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it happening too often, and they I'm not all right,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: it's two months, don't get me wrong, But the guy
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: had a problem and now all of a sudden it's
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: they're getting surgery. That just boggles my mind a little bit,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: that's all. I feel bad for the kid because I
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: really like him.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: AJ's on the same page as you. He'll say this
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: sometimes when you get to that point, just get the surgery. Yeah,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: just kidding, right, But I mean usually the teams are
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: trying to see whatever rest and rehab. Everyone nowadays says,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: oh and you hear PRP. It's like, okay, cool, So
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: he's going to do the PRP. Then he's going to
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: wait another at whatever amount of months.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Feel I'm not going to I don't know if you
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: have problebody.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: If this is TJ. Kratz, which is most likely the case,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: we're looking at twenty twenty seven. It's almost June with
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the timetable for a young starter, he's not back till
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. So now again, if you're a Pirates fan,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: we're going, okay, we currently suck. We are not allowed
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: to buy significant free agent pieces, and we're missing what
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: our number two, our second or third best starter in
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: the rotation. So Bubba Chandler will come up at some
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: point this year. Hopefully he's good. He looks really damn
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: good as a prospect. You've got schemes going, but you're
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: missing Jones, right, Oh yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: We're supposed to add to that. You're missing Jones. You're
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: missing it. They can't and when he comes back, because
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: he will be fully quote fully healthy in twenty twenty seven,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Paul Skenes will already have three years of service under
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: his belt. Now he's becoming expensive in arbitration, a Rookie
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: of the year, He's going to be a cy young
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: candidate at least one of the three years. And Jared
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Jones hasn't thrown more than one hundred and twenty innings
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: during that time. Like, it is hard to keep guys
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: healthy on the mound. It's not Jared Jones's fault. And
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I'm not even saying it's the organization's fault for you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: getting him hurt or anything like that. I'm just saying,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: you have a window to take advantage of good pictures.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: You have to take it. You can't just say, well,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: you know what, you know we'll use what we have
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: in the organization. And on another part of this, Jared
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Jones got hurt. Jared Jones throws really hard. When is
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: an organization? And again I go back to the Pirates
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: because they have to think outside the box. Rockies have
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to think outside the box. Rays are thinking outside the box.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: When are they going to say, you know what, all
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: these guys are still getting hurt and we're babing their arms.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Jared Jones threw back to back seasons in the minor
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: leagues at nineteen years old, now at twenty years old
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: and twenty one years old, one hundred and twenty two
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: innings and then the next year one hundred and twenty
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: six innings. Last year he got hurt at one hundred
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: and twenty one innings. Like, when are we going to
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: build these guys up and maybe not make them throw
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: max effort for all one hundred and twenty innings. Let's
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: try to get him to like one seventy and then
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: see where they're at, Like, why are we always babying
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: these arms because they're still getting hurt and he has
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: an elite.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Arm not working. Don't look at me right, look at scouts.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Many people inside organizations, and we talked about this on
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Baseball America Hot Sheet on Monday. I was kicking this
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: around with JJ Cooper, who has very informed opinions. They're
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: coming from other people and organizations. Here was the example
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: we brought up. We do a lot of Q and
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: A during that show. Someone's like, Hey, what's up? What's
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: up with Noah Schultz. He's the big pitching prospect with
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the Chicago White Sox, right, and I happen to know
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a lot about him because AJ I'm sitting next to
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: most days. Brings up how for the first I think
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: two years of his pro career, they wouldn't let him
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: go past what three innings?
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Some he has never thrown over five innings?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: It was five, I thought. A lot of his outings
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing like three four, right, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: not allowed to go over five? Is that what you said?
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hasn't gone over five innings yet. Okay, so now
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I'll get the final number.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: But here's the difference. They said this year they're letting
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: him do that. What's happening. It's not going well so far,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: and again it's early in the season. But my question
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: to JJ was, what is going on with this starter
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: when for two years you wouldn't let him be himself. Right,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: So in high school I guarantee you he went. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: mean as long as he could six seven innings, whatever, right,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: whatever you're allowed, whatever state he's he's pitching, and then
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: as a pro, he's not allowed to pitch more than
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: a few innings. Go ahead, Crats, it was four right
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: for freaking innings. He's a he's a pro. My my
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: take Kratz here was I would rather let him go,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: especially if they're stressed free. I get it, you want
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: to pull him here and there. I'm not saying he's
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: got to pitch seven innings every outing, but let him
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: get some of those in there. When he's just free
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: flowing and he's just dialing up and three hit list
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: innings against someone and then you're pulling them, I'm like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I'd rather go five that outing, knock two innings off
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: the end of his season, if that's what you're really trying.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Here's another stat for you. His highest pitch count of
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: any game before the twenty twenty five seventy five pitches.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Now this year he's gone He's gone ninety two, eighty two,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: eighty four and eighty.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: And he's got a era close to five at double.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Learning for the first time. He's learning for the first
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: time to pitch tired. It's not his fault if you
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: never understand, if you never know what fire is, if
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: you're never like, what am I gonna do? How am
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I gonna get through this? Oh, manager's taking me out,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: all right?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Cool?
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I feel good, thank you.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: And that's not fair to his development. That's my point.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: And when I start bringing that up, and you've got scats,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: you've got internal people with teams. Alex Anthopolis is a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: good guy to ask about this, who leads the Braves
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: runt office, because he said he was so worried about
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: at that for part of his career with the Blue Jays.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Then he saw it going on with the Dodgers babying
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: certain guys, and he's like, I don't see any correlation
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: with this working, right, So he's like, yeah, we're going
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: to do less of that. And then what happens with
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the Bravos. I think they've done a sneaky job of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: developing pictures. Spencer Swallenbach's a great story. AJ Smith Starver.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Neither of those guys had a lot of experience before this.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Schwellenbach was a was it most more of a hitter
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: and they just bring him in out of the bullpen.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: He had never started, but they just like they put
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: him in the miners and say just go eat.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So that's it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Let's slap and congratulate Colton Wong on a nice career.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Cheers to Colton. You know he was trying to see
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: if anything popped up kind of down the stretch last
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: couple of years. And to say I did just in
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: the past I think twenty four hours to put the
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: official announcement out there. And I liked how Matt Carpenter
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: described it to us the other day when he announced
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: his retirement, because of course you've got AJ trolling him
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: being like, haven't you been retired for like a year
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: or two, And he's like, well, I just want to
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: put out a thank you. So I like he had
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: a nice comeback there where he's like, yeah, I just
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: want to say thanks everyone. So Colton just did the
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: same thing. Two time goal glove winner, registered eleven seasons
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: in the BIGS, part of some very successful Cardinals teams.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Was very well liked there. Definitely good guy, Yeah, good dude,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: good fella.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Congratulations big doll.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: What does he do? What are you doing? Hawaii? That
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: one hang loose bro, So get to hang loose for
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: a minute. Now, love him some retirement.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: He's retired and he's thirty four years old. I mean,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: the advantages of dealing with the pressures of baseball racking
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: up a little I mean this is public info. Fifty
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: ish mill in the career and just enjoy it. I
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: think he's gonna want to do a lot of things,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: maybe a little broadcast, I would say, most likely coaching,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: especially when you have a guy like Colton, who's who's
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: coming from an area where they probably aren't loaded with
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: great coaches in Hawaii, and he can probably make an
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: impact on a lot of young players lives.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Right, there's a lot there's a lot of good young
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: coaches for like little league kids. I don't know about
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the coaching staffs as they get older, but yeah, they
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: breed athletes out there at a young age.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: And especially you see him in the low World Series.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: So oh right, those World Series.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Those coaches are incredible and they're the most down to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: earth coaches you'll meet in your life.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it is what it is.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: We're just gonna keep like they're just so then they communicate.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Well island vibes.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what he's through.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I think he watched he watched the Bob Marley.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Movie the other day. Was that what you were saying?
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I don't know. Yeah, definitely what happened.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Don't wearing on your head nerd? Yeah, what do you got?
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, Memorial Day weekend coming up. You gotta get
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: out the MLB Memorial Day July fourth Military Member and
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: stuff all weekend. Let's get it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: That mustache is wrong.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going to Hawaii with father, Okay, I want to
• 45:26
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