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  Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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  Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. I am Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 2: It's Friday, March the seventh. Yes, it's Friday. We've moved
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  Speaker 2: some things around, different schedule this week. We appreciate you
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  Speaker 2: guys adjusting accordingly. And let's talk some Cowboys football. It's
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  Speaker 2: been it's been a week already. Big news, I guess Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Really the big news was Tuesday when the Cowboys re
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  Speaker 2: signed Osa o'digizua. And that's a surprise. Is a surprise
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  Speaker 2: to be a four years but eighty million dollars. I
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  Speaker 2: got fifty two million guaranteed. Those numbers are surprising. The
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  Speaker 2: timing of it all is even more surprising. Cowboys not
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  Speaker 2: waiting till the last minute. I know there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a thought process that they that they that's what they do. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: there's it takes two to make this thing happen. And
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  Speaker 2: OsO wanted to be here, also wanted to be with
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys. He wanted to return so much so that
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  Speaker 2: he didn't even go to free agency that's very telling
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  Speaker 2: that just how much a guy wants to be in
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  Speaker 2: the building and wants to play for this football team.
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  Speaker 2: Could he have gotten more? Maybe probably there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people out there, he's young, a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: out there with a lot more money than the Cowboys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he probably could have done that. And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what what kind of took it a leaven longer than
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be because there was
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  Speaker 2: a time when we were in Indianapolis for the combine
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  Speaker 2: that it looked like this is a done deal. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Walker had a story ready, We're ready to roll.
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  Speaker 2: This was going to happen. Then it carried on a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I think the agent shopped, not shop the
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  Speaker 2: deal to other teams, but maybe talk to other agents.
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  Speaker 2: Sees this the right move, Well you should wait, wait,
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  Speaker 2: wait for them to put the franchise tag on them,
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  Speaker 2: because they were gonna put the tag on them. Got
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  Speaker 2: down to that final hour of Coway's got a deal done.
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  Speaker 2: They now they have a defensive tackle, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: diggy do it that that they really love. I know
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  Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus is a huge fan of Osum and you know,
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  Speaker 2: now now we'll see, he's got to take that next level.
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  Speaker 2: Probably one of the biggest contracts you've ever seen to
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  Speaker 2: a player that hasn't made a Pro Bowl. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a This is a contract of what he's going
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  Speaker 2: to do. All contracts should be that way, what they're
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  Speaker 2: going to do. All right, Eight and eight eight PI
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  Speaker 2: five two two ninety seven is the number to call.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll say this. We've added something a little bit
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  Speaker 2: different with in the in our app. We uh with
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  Speaker 2: this new feature now where you can chat inside the app.
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  Speaker 2: That's a little scary, be keep it clean, please, but
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  Speaker 2: you can chat in there. You guys can can chat
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  Speaker 2: obviously among yourselves and ask questions as well. So we've
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  Speaker 2: got that monitor. We may throw a question or two
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  Speaker 2: or seven whatever in there today. We'll see that depends
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  Speaker 2: on you guys. We know we have callers. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: start with that. Brian in Kansas City is first. Brian,
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  Speaker 2: what's up?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, How are you? I'm doing great?
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  Speaker 2: Thanks? Right, he was.
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  Speaker 4: It was good to see, uh see that you had
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  Speaker 4: a good I don't know if you were a front row,
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  Speaker 4: but you had a good seat for Zach's retirement front row. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that you were in the frame was hard with the
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  Speaker 4: way the camera angles were working. Oh yeah, I couldn't
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  Speaker 4: tell if you were in the front row. I thought
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  Speaker 4: you might have been.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was front row off to the side.
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  Speaker 2: Got my question in about Larry Allen. That was a
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about it was that emotional, but it's sad.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a sad deal, you know, because you
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  Speaker 2: just you just those are the type of guys that
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  Speaker 2: you just think are going to be there forever, and
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be playing at a high level forever,
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  Speaker 2: and then you just get surprised when it doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: Did you get your handshake?
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  Speaker 2: I did. I got my handshake. Thanks for bringing that up,
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  Speaker 2: and he remembered. He kind of laughed. I'll tell that
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  Speaker 2: story again if I need to, but well, after your
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  Speaker 2: your call, but yes, yes, I got my handshake with him.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if you remember this, but during
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  Speaker 4: the year when he went down injured, I kind of thought,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we've probably seen the last of Zach Martin.
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  Speaker 4: And I mentioned that back and I didn't know when,
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  Speaker 4: but remember they did that series of mean tweets. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 4: well guess what it was His rookie year.
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  Speaker 2: If they did that, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna and I had to paraphrase the one
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  Speaker 4: that he read, but it was it's my favorite Zach
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  Speaker 4: Martin memory because it's just hysterical. So this is the
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  Speaker 4: one he read. It says John Quo, Cowboys fan, and
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  Speaker 4: he's reading and he's chuckling as he's saying it because
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  Speaker 4: it's so funny. I liked the Zach Martin pick. But
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  Speaker 4: it's like getting new socks for Christmas when you wanted
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  Speaker 4: in Xbox one. Yeah, and he's just you know, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of he's such an easy going guy. He's just
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  Speaker 4: laughing as he's reading that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would I wonder who the xbox?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Who the who the Xbox? And man, is that sad
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  Speaker 2: that that was the Xbox one was that was his
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  Speaker 2: rookie year, and I like, I still have an Xbox one.
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  Speaker 2: That just goes to show we need to make it
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  Speaker 2: up grade. But anyways, Yeah, but I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: the Xbox was. Aaron Donald, I mean, he was that
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  Speaker 2: that year and he was drafted a lot higher than that.
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  Speaker 2: Odell Beckham was in that draft. But I think Zach
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  Speaker 2: Zach Martin's is xbox worthy. Uh, for sure, a lot
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  Speaker 2: better than any socks you would see. Great pick. It
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  Speaker 2: was one of the best picks in Cowboys history when
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  Speaker 2: you think about it, I mean, you know, just drafting
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  Speaker 2: a guy where they did, and how much scrutiny was
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  Speaker 2: around that pick, even inside the war room. That's been
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  Speaker 2: talked about obviously, But what a what a career.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely unbelievable he is. When I was listening to SO,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that you saw the coverage of what
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  Speaker 4: Romo said. Did you hear what Romo said about him
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  Speaker 4: after the ye that he'd never seen anything like that
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  Speaker 4: where somebody just came in and on day one was
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  Speaker 4: the best person he had ever seen a tech position.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's uh, it's unbelievable. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's the closest thing to to Larry Allen that you
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen, you know, as far as that position
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  Speaker 2: and that dominance. I'm not talking about what they look like,
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  Speaker 2: how they play, what they've been pressed. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: playing the position at the highest of levels.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, yeah. He just just an unbelievable player.
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  Speaker 4: And I always loved how he handled the media, his interviews.
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  Speaker 4: He you know he would do the I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what Brad Sham and Christy Scales call that. What do
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  Speaker 4: they call that radio show that they do once a week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: Hour, Cowboys Hour. He did that a bunch of times.
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  Speaker 4: Always just a really congenial guy telling you how. It
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  Speaker 4: is very, very fan likable. You know, he just had
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  Speaker 4: that kind of persona about him, you know, as opposed
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  Speaker 4: to you know, you've seen all kinds of people go
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  Speaker 4: through the organization. You've seen him up much closer than
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  Speaker 4: we ever get to see him. That Not everybody's that friendly,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not everybody's enjoys talking to the fans and
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  Speaker 4: giving the fans a little window into his world.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, now, I he was the best. He's the best.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to miss him, Brian, Did you have anything else?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, my only other question was is I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to stick with the offensive line today? My only
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  Speaker 4: other question is I think the only person we got
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  Speaker 4: left we signed Brock to a new deal. So my
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  Speaker 4: only other question was, and I know it sounds funny
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  Speaker 4: because I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but
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  Speaker 4: we actually ran the ball better when he was in there.
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  Speaker 4: Do we know if there's a plan, are they thinking
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  Speaker 4: about bringing back Chuma Doga as the backup plan to
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  Speaker 4: you know, if if one of the tackles doesn't come
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  Speaker 4: through and play is expected. Yeah, and I'll hang up
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  Speaker 4: and listen.
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  Speaker 5: Man a right.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Brian. I mean, Tuma wasn't was supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be kind of the bridge in the gap until it
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  Speaker 2: was time for Tyler Goeyton to come in. And as
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  Speaker 2: it turned out, you know, and Tchuma got hurt some too,
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  Speaker 2: but he was better than Goydon and the whole year,
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  Speaker 2: even later in the year when when they wanted to
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  Speaker 2: still win games, Tyler Goydon wasn't the better option. So
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  Speaker 2: that was disappointing that that he didn't take that leap
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  Speaker 2: that they that they thought over over Tuma. You're gonna sign,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna have some some backup plans, some
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  Speaker 2: veteran guys. You know, I think that they're hoping awesome
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  Speaker 2: Richards can maybe be be that guy too where he
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  Speaker 2: can play some guard tackle and he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: the younger version of what Tuma was able to do.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe that's the route that they go. But but
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna we'll see what happens. I say,
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  Speaker 2: we see what happens in the draft. Obviously free agency
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  Speaker 2: is first, but but you know, you'll you'll band aid
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  Speaker 2: the position with free agency with you know, with you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the tackle or guard. I would imagine they re
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  Speaker 2: signed a veteran, maybe it's trueman, maybe it's someone like
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  Speaker 2: that in that range, in that price range, and then
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  Speaker 2: see what happens. Obviously with with the draft. The story
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  Speaker 2: Brian was talking about with the handshake was just after
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season. He said, Zach Martin said
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  Speaker 2: he didn't know what he was doing yet. He wasn't
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  Speaker 2: making any plans on retiring. He just he hasn't made
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  Speaker 2: up his mind. And so but everyone took that and
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  Speaker 2: started shaking his hand, say it was a pleasure, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I was just like, well, he didn't say that,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna And then he goes to shake
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  Speaker 2: my hand. I was like, no, we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be back. We're not doing all that right now.
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  Speaker 2: If it's time to do that, we'll do it. And
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  Speaker 2: so obviously it was they were right. And then when
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  Speaker 2: it was time to you know, him to retire, then
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  Speaker 2: I actually gave the formal handshake. But gonna miss him.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna miss I'm just just as a person, just
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  Speaker 2: as a person, just a cool, down to earth guy
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  Speaker 2: like Brian was talking about. That's what he was. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, but he's I think he's making the right decision.
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  Speaker 2: I think he sees the writing on the wall as
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  Speaker 2: he's tyring Travis Frederick. Do you want to keep playing
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  Speaker 2: and keep playing and and you know, risk injury? And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's when you're when you have an all
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  Speaker 2: world type talent like that, and regardless of the sport,
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  Speaker 2: you know as a standard that you play to and
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  Speaker 2: when you when you don't meet that standard, it might
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  Speaker 2: be good enough to still play in the league and
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  Speaker 2: start for teams. But nobody wants to see that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wanted to see Michael Jordan there with the Wizards
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  Speaker 2: and playing like that. Nobody wants to see that. And
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  Speaker 2: and I'm okay with that comparison. I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 2: I even wrote that in my article about about comparing
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  Speaker 2: Larry to Zach Martin. It's like the I don't know
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  Speaker 2: where you stand on the Lebron Michael Jordan thing, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, if Lebron is not Michael Jordan. It's still
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  Speaker 2: a pretty decent place to be number two all time.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe that's Zach Martin if he's not as good
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  Speaker 2: is Larry On. Okay, well, you're the second best guard
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  Speaker 2: in the history of the Cowboys, the first. The first
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  Speaker 2: is probably the best that's ever played. So that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: You've done well with your life if that's If that's
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  Speaker 2: where you are, all right, let's go to Irene in
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  Speaker 2: Falls Church, Virginia.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, Nick, How you doing good?
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  Speaker 2: How are you well?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 7: Hey, so Jack Martin, congrats on the career. I would
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  Speaker 7: like to hear your favorite Zach Martin story if you
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  Speaker 7: didn't already share that. Only heard the last part of
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  Speaker 7: your comments from Brandy. For me, I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 7: really a good, great elongated story, but I loved when
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  Speaker 7: he did the little they caught him on there doing
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  Speaker 7: the little dance after a play in the huddle. That
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  Speaker 7: was just like, oh, he has a personality. He's not
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  Speaker 7: just this very somber.
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  Speaker 8: Guy, you know.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And then free.
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  Speaker 7: Agency, okay, so you know, to be honest, like the
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  Speaker 7: OSA thing, if you go back and I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to stand on and be like, oh it was for osa.
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  Speaker 7: If you go back to listen to some of our spaces,
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  Speaker 7: I was like, if it can go.
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  Speaker 10: But I'm I'm.
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  Speaker 7: Proud of the front office for actually signing a player
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  Speaker 7: who you know, played up to his potential contract has.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's like top three in a lot of
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  Speaker 7: stats that that matter. Pressure is that sort of thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: so win rate maybe, so I'm okay with that. It's
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  Speaker 7: way less than the franchise tag would have been, So
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  Speaker 7: that would have been I have a nightmare to just
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  Speaker 7: hold him for a year. So good for them being proactive.
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  Speaker 7: Lots of restructures here.
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  Speaker 5: My I want to know.
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  Speaker 7: I think that they're going to sign Micah in a
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  Speaker 7: timely manner. Is that the feeling you have in the
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  Speaker 7: building has right now?
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  Speaker 2: Okays, a lot of stuff there. Favorite Zach Martin story.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a lot because I mean, he wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that type of guy. He's a He's a guy you
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  Speaker 2: didn't even think about, he didn't even worry about. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's there, He's gonna be great, he's gonna make he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be dependable. That's that's the way it was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I always thought it was funny though, the
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  Speaker 2: three fifteen story, you know, like when he would like
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't play a lot of noon games, you know,
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  Speaker 2: especially at home, but but when they did, it was
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  Speaker 2: always a thing that Zach I think one time just
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  Speaker 2: yelled out, you know, after the coach was done talking.
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  Speaker 2: It was probably Garrett, and he said, hey, guys, guess what,
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  Speaker 2: it's only three fifteen, you know, which means they got
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  Speaker 2: the whole day to do whatever they want to do.
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  Speaker 2: And everyone just thought that was so funny that Zach
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  Speaker 2: Martin would would do that, and then that became a bit.
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  Speaker 2: That was his thing anytime there was a game now,
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  Speaker 2: not after a loss probably, but again they're not losing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of games. If it's noon, they probably won
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  Speaker 2: the game and they were at home, and when it
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  Speaker 2: was appropriate then he would yell out, it's only three fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: So that was that was kind of his thing. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I guess you had to be there,
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  Speaker 2: but that was the thing for Zach as for Osa
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  Speaker 2: And like you said, yeah, I mean, kudos to the
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  Speaker 2: to the Cowboys front office for getting that and and
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  Speaker 2: you know, not not over I say, overpaying twenty million
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  Speaker 2: a year. I mean, that's that's still a big contract.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he's seventeenth. I saw that sixteenth or
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  Speaker 2: seventeenth in average salary for defensive tackles, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you think about it, he's probably right there. I
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  Speaker 2: bet he was close to making the Pro Bowl this year,
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  Speaker 2: maybe as an alternate. So when you think about that,
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  Speaker 2: that's you know, you get what three defensive tackles for
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  Speaker 2: each side, so you're you're looking in the top ten.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably a top ten defensive tackles, especially for his age,
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  Speaker 2: and he's still got you know, a lot of football
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  Speaker 2: left to play. So you know, that deal is as
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  Speaker 2: crazy as it sounds, probably isn't the biggest, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest setback there. And then and then also my
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  Speaker 2: feeling for Micah, yeah, I get yeah, I get the
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  Speaker 2: sense that they're going to get a deal done. I think,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, it takes two sides. They want to
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  Speaker 2: get the deal done. He wants to get the deal done.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, just like with CD, I mean
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  Speaker 2: when once Justin Jefferson went now, it's like all right,
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  Speaker 2: there's there's a ballpark, and Max Crosby's contract just went down.
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  Speaker 2: So I can't imagine Mike had taken less than that,
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  Speaker 2: so and I haven't looked at all the details on that,
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  Speaker 2: but I just know that those are the kind of
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  Speaker 2: contracts that are gonna help drive this thing. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the pieces are falling in place to get
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  Speaker 2: it done. All right, We're doing some We got some
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  Speaker 2: questions coming in from the app Now these questions don't
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  Speaker 2: have names to it, just really more topics to talk
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  Speaker 2: about so we can do that. One of the questions says,
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  Speaker 2: does re signing OSA make it easier to get the
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  Speaker 2: Mica deal done? Not not necessarily financially. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it does. I don't think. I mean, they have the
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  Speaker 2: money to get to get the deal done. And and
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  Speaker 2: remember the deal is going to lower the the the
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  Speaker 2: salary cap number for the Cowboys this year, so it's
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  Speaker 2: not like they've got to get these deals done. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: once they he's gonna count like twenty something twenty four
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  Speaker 2: million with the on the cap right now. So any
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  Speaker 2: any deal that he makes gonna save money. It's probably
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  Speaker 2: in the range of ten to eleven million that they'll save.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think anything needs to happen to get
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  Speaker 2: the deal done. Now, does keeping OSA somebody in the
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  Speaker 2: middle that got fifty fifty six pressures last year. That'll help.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Michah wants to play with a guy like that. He
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: wants to play with a defensive tackle and get up
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the field too, because if you can get a defensive
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: tackle getting up the field when Micah gets around the edge,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: what do all quarterbacks do when you get around the edge?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: They step up in the pocket. Well, guess what if
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Osa's sitting there also with the pressure, there's no place
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to step up to. Everybody wants that Osa wants Micah
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and another guy on the outside. Michael want that guy
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: on the inside. So from that standpoint, yes, I think
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: that's important. It's important to have have some guys that
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you're going to play next to in the middle of
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: the field. But financially, I don't think it helps that
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: much more. And then another question there all time favorite
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Zach Martin play Again, there's no like I mean, because
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: when you think about Larry Allen, ask yourself that with
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Larry Allen, what's your favorite Larry Allen play? Well, most
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: people will talk about an interception that Troy threw and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: he chased down the guy in New Orleans. Now there's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: been some other blocks and crushing blocks. That's not really
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Zach Martin's game. There was a play that I remember.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I want to say it might have been It might
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: have been a rookie season for.
• 17:45
  Speaker 11: Zeke.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I know it was an early game, probably one of
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: those games that ended at through fifteen, but one of
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: those games against the Lions where there was a screen
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: pass and Zach was out in space and I mean
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: he looked like Sunshine from remember the Titans, just out
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: there leading the way, blocking and running and blocking and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: running all that. I want to say it was Zeke.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was pollared, but it was early. It wouldn't
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: have been hollered, but it was early in Zach Martin's
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: career where it was like, man, this guy, this guy
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: is special. But again, that's what made him so good.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: You don't have a lot that you really remember because
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: he didn't just sit there and pancake people. He just
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: did his job, did it better than everyone else, did
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: it for a long time. All right, Dustin and waksa
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Hatchie Texas. What's up, hey man? How's it going good?
• 18:31
  Speaker 12: How are you good?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 18:33
  Speaker 12: I just a couple quick things. So one, I obviously
• 18:38
  Speaker 12: didn't love the at least what seemed like the public
• 18:41
  Speaker 12: process for hiring the coach. But I'll just say, the
• 18:44
  Speaker 12: more and more you see of this coach, it's really
• 18:46
  Speaker 12: really hard not to like him sure and understand why
• 18:49
  Speaker 12: he got the job. So I'm getting more excited, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 12: it definitely feels already this offseason that we're a little
• 18:56
  Speaker 12: bit more all in than maybe we were last year,
• 18:59
  Speaker 12: at least from the perception. The other thing I wanted
• 19:03
  Speaker 12: to see if you had a story after I tell
• 19:05
  Speaker 12: a super quick story. I've met two people in public
• 19:09
  Speaker 12: that have been associated with the Cowboys, both at the
• 19:12
  Speaker 12: really large furniture store up in the colony, and one
• 19:17
  Speaker 12: of them that I happened to meet was coach Gary Brown,
• 19:21
  Speaker 12: and obviously so sad that what happened with him, But
• 19:27
  Speaker 12: I'll just say we met him the year after the
• 19:29
  Speaker 12: Amazon series, and you know, my wife gets sick of
• 19:32
  Speaker 12: hearing me talk about the Cowboys, but she watched a
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: lot of that with me, and that was kind of
• 19:37
  Speaker 12: her favorite character from the show. She's like, he just
• 19:39
  Speaker 12: seems like a great guy. But I just went up,
• 19:41
  Speaker 12: shook his hand, introduced myself. Forty five minutes later, we're
• 19:45
  Speaker 12: still sitting there talking to him, because he was the
• 19:48
  Speaker 12: most engaging human I've probably ever met in my life.
• 19:52
  Speaker 12: Just a great guy, met his wife, met one of
• 19:55
  Speaker 12: his kids, just seem like an incredible human being. So
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: I just didn't know if you had any Gary Brown's
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: story you might be able to tell about the time
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: he was there with the Cowboys.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, Dustin, appreciate that good
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: good stuff. And your first part about Schottenheimer and the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: coaching staff, I mean, they're they're winning the offseason right now.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: That's and that's really it's a that's all you can do. Okay,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: there's no wins and losses, and and a lot of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it is probably the state of the team and where
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: where how it ended, and just just the dark cloud
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: that had kind of been over a lot of things. Uh,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: so far, it's been pretty positive. And and even though
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: he was not your first choice, I know he wasn't
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: because nobody ever called in and said that, myself included.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: He so far, so good on on this stuff that
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing, the stuff that I'm hearing again, he hasn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: had to make a fourth down decision in the fourth
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: quarter of game yet. We'll see, it'll all change it once.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Once the season starts, you know, you would think good
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: or bad. It's just that's that's that's what you have
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to go off at that point. It's like any player like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: well he's a really good guy, Like okay, cool, can
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: he play? Can he play corner? You know, like that's
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that's all that matters, and so that so right now,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Schottenheimer though he's been great. We had a chance to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: talk with him a little bit in Indianapolis, had had
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a lunch with him with some of the other beat writers,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: and it was very it was very engaging and like
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: seems very genuine. What's your favorite food, what's your favorite music,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: what do you like? Here have you been? You know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: what's just stuff like that, just getting to know people,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: just what human beings do. Now it's that time of
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: year to do that, you know, once the bullets start,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you know, flying around. We'll see how how things go.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: But so far, so good on him and his whole staff.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And then the part about Gary Brown, Yeah, what a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: great human being. Such a sad story for him. He
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: was a really really good running backs coach, really good person.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean that's like you, like you said,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: we did a series one time, we went to a
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: barbecue place up the road and we let the running
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: backs sit and kind of chop it up, if you will.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Zeke was in there, Tony Pollard, he was the running
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: backs coach, and he was telling stories and talking to
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the guys and such a really good thing. I haven't
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: seen that in a while, but that that was a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: cool feature that we did. We went to this place
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: and lit it up and had had them eating, you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and and but but talking and telling stories, and you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: we used to do we do a feature called gut
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Feeling every Friday, and when it's rolling and the Cowboys
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: are great and we're always picking them to win and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: it's fun and easy. But when it's not the case
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and we sometimes picked them to lose, then you know
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that that can be a little bit, especially on a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: road game when we're traveling with the team and it's
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: supposed to be all in here and then here's three
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: or four guys and then you know Rod twenty two
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that you know, oh that it picked us to lose.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So that can get get kind of dicey. And he
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: would read that and he would come up to us
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and like jump, pick us to win and we're like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: not really, coach, you know, and then you walk over
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you pick us to win and be like, man, that's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: nice weather here today. You know. No, no, didn't. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: it was a one game in Seattle where he was.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He was like, they actually think He put that up
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: on their team meeting and said, look at all four
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: of these guys, all four of these riders. Nobody on
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: your own team thinks that you're going to win this game,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you know, and they use that as a rally cry.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: They didn't win. They didn't win the game. But that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you know, that's neither here nor there. All right, Another
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: question here, how do you interpret Jerry's comments on needing
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to fill voids in free agency? Not needing to fill
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: voids and free agencies. What he said, this is from
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Josh and Princeton. So he put his name in. That's
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: how you need to do it. Guys on the app,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: put your name in here, name and where you're from,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: just like we do on the callers. That that'll be
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: a lot easier and then you know, we people can
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: kind of know who you are. Good question, because it
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: was an interesting statement. You know, when you just break
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it off like that, and that's the headline. That doesn't
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: sound good. I think listening to the quote, he kind
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: of got a better understanding. He's not changing his thought
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: process on the draft. The draft is still the most
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: important thing.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: He's saying that once we get done with the draft
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: and resigning our own guys, he doesn't feel they'll have
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of huge voids. That's just what they believe.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: They don't believe that you fill these voids in free agency.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: You you put band aids on things, but you don't
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: necessarily fill the void there. They just feel like you're
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: gonna overpay for players. But we'll see. You know, they've
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: said a lot of things that that that you wouldn't
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: necessarily expect to happen. So a part of all this
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: is is negotiating as well. So if Jerry comes out
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and says, yeah, yeah, we're gonna fill some needs and
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: free agency one hundred and so, well, what do they have, Well,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: they don't have a running back. So oh this guy's available,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: watch out for the Cowboys. The Cowboys might be signing him.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, what, whych up your hand on anything at
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: this point in the year, So let's see how it goes.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. If they make some moves, you'd
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: call it feel an a void or not. But I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: think I think they'll they'll be making some moves for sure.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Randy and text or cana. Randy, what's up?
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: Well? I left you on Aquarium yesterday. I stick around
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: very long. Something fiche about that plate? Okay, what do
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: you think about that?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I think that is a really great, terrible joke. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm a dad dad and I have
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: dad jokes, and and it was almost like I knew
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it was coming, all right.
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: Right, right, so all right, So it's the first thing
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: I thought of I saw some of the coaching changes
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: was the fact that the receivers coach used to be
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: Cooper Cub's coach, and Cooper had a lot of really
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: good things to talk say about him, and so that
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: got me excited, thinking, all right, maybe we've got a
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: chance of going after Cooper into trade or if he's
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure if he's been completely released yet or not.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: As my fault service.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: By the way, somebody's calling to tell you that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah they are, it's my work phone. I don't care anyway,
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: but he's he seems to be injured a lot here lately,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: so I'm kind of excited about that, hopefully maybe, But
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: then I see all these other receivers that are starting
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: to drop out on the market, like the Bonde Adams.
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: Don't know if we can afford them all that, But
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: my thought is, should we since there toward the end
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: of the season last year, our defense seemed to be
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: a little above where our offense was. Should we go
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: after more of a vet and receiver to fill that
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: void of the number two, even if we have to
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: spend a little bit of money to go after that
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: and use the draft to concentrate on young defensive linemen,
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: running back stuff like that, because you keep hearing about
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: the defense being so you know, there being a lot
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: of really good ones in the draft.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Sure you know that that's that's a tough one. I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: what would you do because that you're not going to
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: be wrong? I mean, so is that where you're leaning
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you'd rather have a veteran receiver.
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: I kind of would, because I think with Dak, I mean,
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: you never know whether it's hamstring I'm saying. I know
• 27:43
  Speaker 9: they've got him strung out for four or five years
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: probably on the way that contract will left, But I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: saying two to three good years left to Dak before
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: they start trying to figure out how to move on.
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: I'm saying, get him somebody now that's ready to plug
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: and play like a like a Devonte Adams or or
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: just pick one of the big name guys. Yeah, so
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: where so he can just come out and they can
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: just get the cooking. Yet. Yes, having a cheap, young, fast,
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: good wide receiver coming in is great, but they get
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: the big guys sometimes, you know the NFL spotlight, don't.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: I don't know that our offense has two or three
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: years to build a guy along CD. I would like
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: for them to bring in somebody that can match CD
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: right now and concentrate on defensive Lindman and running back
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: and all that with their draft.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah that I mean that. That's a good debate because
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: me personally, I kind of feel like there needs to
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: be more speed at the position. CD. As great as
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: he is, you wouldn't call him a burner. Same with Tolbert,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and same with really any of those guys you're talking
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: about that are going to cost a lot of money.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: They're they're they're great players for maybe different reasons, but
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: not so much take the top off type guys.
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: So thinking could handle that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Not really, I mean, and because that's not his thing,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Turpin not. I'm not talking about down the field because
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: just think about it, he gets three yard separation on somebody,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that ball comes comes flying in. By the time it
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: gets to him or he goes up for it, then
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the corners kind of put his arm out and caught up.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: That's just he's not a deep ball type guy. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I think there's a different role with him. I could see.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I could see a big debate on that of making
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: a case of hey, I want I wanted a younger guy,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: draft him, even first round. I know whether it's been
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: talked about. I don't love the first round wide receiver option,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: but I could see I can see them making a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: case for it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so I think they just have some or so
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: you've been asking for that speed orceiver for twenty years now.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we just have to see it. No,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: we have. We have not seen that guy, so sure,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: sure would be cool. I'm talking like the if you're
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: worthy type. Oh yeah, you know, but you know that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: seems like a forty four. That seems like a second
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: round wide receiver that can fly he's obviously there because
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: he's not the biggest or whatever it is. But I like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I like a receiver there in the second round, somebody
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: with a lot of speed, a playmaker type guy. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: think you can get that player, uh there as well,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: like a tank Dell. I feel like he was in
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the second round. Somebody kind of liked that. Yeah, So
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: all right, Randy, good, good to hear from you. All right, Oh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: let's go Steve. He's in Saint Louis, Steve.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: Yes, sir, what's up, sir?
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: How you doing?
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: How's it going?
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: Man?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Is this first call?
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I'm a first time caller.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: You know what that we go? Here, we go? All right,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: what do you got?
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: I just have a couple of quick questions for you. Actually,
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: the Jonathan Mango signing to give up a fourth round pick,
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: do you think that was a bad decision on our part.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: We'll see, I mean, like I he hasn't done anything yet.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: We will see. It doesn't look like the best move
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in the world. But I'm not and like I said
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: at the time, I'm gonna I'm gonna let it kind
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: of play out. I'm not I'm not one. Don't please,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: don't throw debo at me because you know the difference, right,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you guys know the difference, and why he's he gets
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a fifth round and Meno got a fourth. It's all
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: about contracts now, It's all about how much you have
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to pay, basically paying to get rid of a guy. Yeah,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: we'll give you that so you can take you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: we won't take a lot because you're taking a lot
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: in money. That's that's kind of what happens.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Oh okay, Yeah, it's just that. I just think we
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: have so many holes to feel. I think we could
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: have been so much more with that pick. But I'm
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: not gonna be disrespectful of the guys.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's fine. You know what, the next the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: next like that get hits him on the in the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: in the numbers will be the first of his career.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about Mingo. Nobody wants
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to throw the ball at his hands, at at his body.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: He hits more passes and then this isn't just Trey Lance.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: This was Cooper Rush and I'm sure it happened in
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Carolina quite a bit. He whatever the reason he doesn't
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: get a clean ball, what he needs to do is
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: he needs to live at the dockyard this year. If
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Dak is having players come out to his house to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: throw the ball around, he needs to be there. He
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: needs to have his own code to the gate to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: get in whenever he wants. He needs to be out
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: there because we have seen Tolbert being one, Cedric Wilson
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: being another. You out there and practically live with Dak,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: You're going to be a better football player at the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: end of the year. We've seen it happen. He needs
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: to be in that level. And if he does that
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: and doesn't pan out and he's not a good player,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: then you know he wasn't a good pick. Fourth round
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: was not a good pick. But I think we got
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to get We gotta give him time. That's my opinion
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: on Mingo.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I could take it. I agree with you and
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: a couple of quick more. A guy that I absolutely
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: loved was Travis Frederick's Do you think he's going to
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: be a Hall of Famer since he had to retire
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: early because of the illness?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Say that one more time?
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: Which the center we had Travis Frederick? Yeah, I loved him, man,
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: and I just wondered, do you think he's going to
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: be a Hall of Famer. I know he had to
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: retire early because he had an aliens. Yeah, so because
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: of it, do you think he's still going to be
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: a Hall of Famer.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so, I really wouldn't. Great player, didn't,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: like you said, didn't last long enough. Those center position
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: is tough. I mean, I mean think of like this.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Do you think Andre Gerard is a Hall of Famer? No,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: probably not, But I think they have the same amount
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: of Pro Bowls. I have to look that one up,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: but I think it's about the same. And that's for
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: an offensive lineman, Pro Bowls and All pros. People laugh
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: at the Pro Bowl all the time. It's not to
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: be deal and who cares and all that. Yeah, wait
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: till they start getting into the Hall of Fame talk,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: and then that for alignment, that's all they have. You
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: don't have a lot of stats. You've got were you
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: elite at your time when you played? And here's one
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: way to find out? Pro Bowl, All Pro and so, yes,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Travis Frederick was that person. I don't think he played
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: long enough. I just I don't even think he's ring
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: of honor.
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: To be honest with you, this is what I was
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: wondering because he didn't played too long. But I just
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: thought he was a great player.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: He wasn't.
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: This is a real quick thing to last. Do you
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: know if they're trying to do anything with Turp because
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: I hope they bring that back.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great stuff, Steve, call back again, good good stuff.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Good to hear from you. I love to have first
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: time callers in there. Steve and Saint Louis holding it down.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Great questions. That last one on Turpin. They don't have
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to make any moves on that one until free agency.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: The first day of free agency, that's usually when they
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: put in those tenders. He'll get a second round tender,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking is going to happen. There's three
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: type of restricted free agent tenders. One the last one
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: is they basically called just an original draft choice. He
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't drafted, so you would get no compensation. It's probably
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: around three million a year. That that's not happening because
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: somebody will will definitely, you know, pick him up and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: sign him to a deal. The second round tender it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: worth about five million a year. What happens is let's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: say the Titans, who's got John Fossil, signed him to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: an offer sheet. Three years, twenty million almost you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: six to seven million a year. Let's just say they
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: did that well and the Cowboys had that second round
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: tender on him, they could match it. They have the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: option to match that deal, or they can let him go.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: If they let him go, then they'll get a second
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: round pick and return. The Titans is an interesting one
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: because they have the first pick in the second round.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I doubt that's happened. In fact, it's never happened in
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the NFL. No team has ever lost a second rounder
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to a restricted offer sheet. So they also have a
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: first round option. That's about I think a year, maybe eight,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: And uh, I don't think the Cowboys are going to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: do that. So what will probably happen is they'll probably
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: just do the tender. No one will sign him the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Cowboy he'll play on this year as a restricted free
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: agent for that guaranteed contract. Then actually it's not guaranteed,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to be honest, that is not a guaranteed contract, but
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: it's probably you know, he's probably gonna play on it,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and then then he'll be unrestricted after the year if
• 36:24
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• 36:26
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• 36:28
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• 36:32
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• 36:36
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• 36:38
  Speaker 2: what can he do? He's really dangerous as a returner.
• 36:41
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• 36:43
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• 36:45
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go over across the pond. We're going
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  Speaker 2: back to the line here. Mike in Birmingham, England. Mike, Hello,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Hallalo.
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  Speaker 16: Nick, it's been a little whild in. These Wednesdays aren't
• 38:52
  Speaker 16: suiting me, so I'm sorry. Friday's much better. That's all right.
• 38:56
  Speaker 16: Like I said, you can't please all the people all
• 38:58
  Speaker 16: the time. But no, I'm over here obviously it's Friday,
• 39:01
  Speaker 16: early evening and I've just finished for the weekend. I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 16: just about to leave work and be selectively aggressive on
• 39:08
  Speaker 16: the motorway on the way home, and.
• 39:11
  Speaker 17: So yeah, it's a good time.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny about that? And people caught that
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it was selectively aggressive. That's the term, you know. We
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: always have to have a theme right last year, everybody
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: knows what the theme was or even though it probably
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: wasn't all in yep. Now it's selectively aggressive. So we'll see,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I like the way you see what it means.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I like how you worded that in there. Good stuff.
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: So before we get on to the important stuff. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 16: was listening to one of them, I think it was
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: hanging with the boys a week or two ago, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 16: Chris was talking about a game of Fortnite that you
• 39:51
  Speaker 16: and he had had, and he said something about there
• 39:53
  Speaker 16: being nineteen kills and he'd done seventeen of them and
• 39:56
  Speaker 16: you've done too. I just wondered if you wanted your
• 39:59
  Speaker 16: right of reply.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't accurate. Those numbers are not accurate. I
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: had four kills, now, Chris. Okay, Chris had nineteen. He
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: undersold himself. I think had we had twenty three nineteen
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: to four. Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, Chris is an
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: assassin out there. Okay, I'm just going to tell you
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: he's an assassin that. I don't feel bad about that one,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: about that one about no, not at all. That's like
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: that's like TJ. Bass saying I'm not as good as
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Zach Martin. Okay, that's that's fine. That's exactly what I
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: feel like there, all right.
• 40:35
  Speaker 16: Yeah, speaking of that, I really enjoyed the press conference
• 40:40
  Speaker 16: on Wednesday. I thought that was that was really nicely done.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: And very fitting for a great player.
• 40:48
  Speaker 16: So obviously we've freed up cap space and there's a
• 40:53
  Speaker 16: lot of talk about that, and quite a lot of
• 40:55
  Speaker 16: people on social media, as they do, kind of getting
• 40:58
  Speaker 16: quite carried away with that and what we're going to do.
• 41:00
  Speaker 16: I mean, it's coincided with all the you know, the
• 41:04
  Speaker 16: news of all the players that teams are releasing or
• 41:09
  Speaker 16: you know, seeking to let go on a trade, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 16: you know, there's a chap in the question that is
• 41:22
  Speaker 16: being talked about. And I just think we've learned by now,
• 41:28
  Speaker 16: especially from last year and all in expectation management is.
• 41:33
  Speaker 17: Really key here. You know, we know what we were
• 41:36
  Speaker 17: last year. It wasn't a good year.
• 41:38
  Speaker 16: For us to be a contender in twenty five. So
• 41:42
  Speaker 16: many things have got to fall into place. We've got
• 41:44
  Speaker 16: to have the draft of the century. We need our
• 41:47
  Speaker 16: guys to stay healthy. We'll need one or two trades
• 41:53
  Speaker 16: or free agents that really come in and basically it's
• 41:58
  Speaker 16: almost certainly not going to happen. But what we can
• 42:01
  Speaker 16: expect and what we should expect and demand is some progress.
• 42:05
  Speaker 16: And if that turns last year's seven and ten into
• 42:08
  Speaker 16: a nine and eight or a ten and seven, then
• 42:11
  Speaker 16: we're in contention for playoffs. I think it's very, very
• 42:15
  Speaker 16: unlikely that we're in contention for the big one this year,
• 42:18
  Speaker 16: and I think for my sanity, I need to kind
• 42:23
  Speaker 16: of accept that. And even though I'm hearing about this
• 42:26
  Speaker 16: fifty seven million, you know, that's great, we can do
• 42:29
  Speaker 16: some stuff with that, but we're looking two three years
• 42:32
  Speaker 16: down the line. Just wondered what your take on that is,
• 42:35
  Speaker 16: what you think the cap space that we're creating is
• 42:39
  Speaker 16: four and you know whether you disagree and actually this
• 42:43
  Speaker 16: this can be the year And I'll leave you with that.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, sounds great, Thank you, Mike. Appreciate you appreciate the call.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, I don't believe that any team unless
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you're just at the very very bottom and then you're
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: going to play with a rookie quarterback and all that stuff.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a challenge for some of those teams.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: But I think if you're in that, in that group
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: of you know, seven to ten, eight, nine, nine and eight,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: you're in that same group. They're all about the same,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think you can. You can turn things around,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: especially when you look at what what caused a lot
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: of you know, what caused some of the problems here.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: You know, let's look at the issues of the seven
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: and ten. You know, injuries is part of it. It's
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: not all of it, it's part of it. And they
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: happen every year. They don't happen like that every year
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to the key key players. Then they had sixty something.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: There's like sixty one combined Pro Bowls of players that
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: have made you know, four Pro Bowls here, nine Pro
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Bowls here, six here three they like, you know, that's that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: That's the guys sixty one combined Pro Bowls that were
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: missing in games last year. You know, all of their
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: starters from from week one, all of their key starters
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: missed at least a game or two. So you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: they had fourteen players that entered this season that had
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: made a Pro Bowl. Fourteen guys. Eleven of those guys
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: missed at least two games. That's that's just key players
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: that were out at key moments. You hope that it
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: just it's just not going to be like that every year.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So that's part of it. They had some issues with
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: with you know, offense and defense at times, play calling,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: you know, defensive scheme. So they're fixing a lot of this,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: or at least that's the plan is to fix all that.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: So you know, they're making some changes, and you do that,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: You make a few tweaks here and there, you do
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: some things that will extend drives. You stend two drives
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a game that might be ten points. How many games
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: did they lose less than that? So I don't think
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: it takes a lot to make some of those changes.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: To go back to you, and then also your question
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: about you know, cap space and all that, you have
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: to remember that when you see that about how much
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: cap space they have, and you'll see graphics that say
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: that they have this much in cap space and sixty
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: million or seventy million, go and find out how many
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: players are being accounted for. Because I know one of
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: those websites has them at seventy something million in cap
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: space and there's only forty one players counting on the roster.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a problem. You know, teams don't win
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: with forty players on their roster you need. It's not
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: fifty three either, It's like sixty sixty five. That's how
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: many guys you need. That's how many guys you're going
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: to have. Don't forget you sign a player who's counting
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: three million a year and he gets hurt in training camp.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: He's counting three million a year. Okay, nothing changes with that,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: even though he goes to ir So guess what, you
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: put another guy in here. He counts almost a million.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So you have to account for some of those. I'm
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: not saying that they don't have money to go and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: do some things. They can do some things. But but
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's as much as you as you think.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: And but I still I still and I don't know
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: if that changes their philosophy, but it should be able
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to do something that they should be able to do
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: some things, and I think they will. I think they're
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: going to be a little bit more aggressive than we've
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: seen in the past. They're going to sign more from
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the outside, uh than they have in the past. And
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and rightfully so, look at all the free agents they have.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Do you need to just build on your seven and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: ten or do you want to get better from your
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: seven and ten, and I think you want to get better,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: which means there might be better players outside the building
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: that were inside the building. You did it with your
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: coaching staff, right, I mean some of your coaches, Shottenheim
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: are being one of them moved up. But how many
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: other coaches did you retain? Three? Four? So if you're keeping,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: if you if you're cleaning house with the coaches, then
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you somewhat do the same with the players.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It's a little harder. I get it from a cap
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: stamp point, but if it's a free agent to a
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: free agent, I'm you know, think of Rico Daddles as
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: an example. You want to bring back Rico Daddle had good,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: solid year one thousand yards, or you want to try
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to get someone better if there is that guy out there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: So that's just an example, all right, any other We
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: have another question here, This is coming from the app
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Kyle from Sarasota, Florida. Any chance of Dallas front loading
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Micah's contract to offset the dead money in coming years
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: with other players? New, that's not how not how that works.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Got to remember that dead money from those players are
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: happening right now. Zach Martin d Law, Brandon Cooks. Those
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: those guys have contracts that are that are counting in
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: money that's hitting the cap right now, so you don't
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and think of it. Mieh Micah Parsons is making He's
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: gonna have a He's got a fifth year option of
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: about twenty four million dollars. There's a lot of talk
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: on if they can get him to a deal. They'll
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: say they'll cut his his base salary base salary down,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: but it's also his his cap charge will be down,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: you know, in the range of thirteen to fourteen million,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: something like that. So you know he's not getting a
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: deal in that range. He's going to get a deal
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: over thirty for sure. So if he's counting thirty million
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: per year and it's going to be more than that,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: just to say a thirty million and he's only going
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to count about thirteen, it's definitely not going to be
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: front loaded. This is going to be backloaded like most
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: contracts are. So no, they won't do it from that standpoint.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: They have enough dead money that are going on cap
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: that are hitting the cap right now that they got
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: to take care of all. Right, let's go to Larry
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: in Kansas, Larry.
• 48:45
  Speaker 18: Hey, how are you doing good?
• 48:47
  Speaker 16: How are you doing great?
• 48:49
  Speaker 18: First time calling?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love the pause too, like laid out.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: You're ready for it? All right?
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 48:58
  Speaker 18: Actually I am.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: You know, Harry, what's that?
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: First off?
• 49:01
  Speaker 18: I wanted to go with a little bit of the
• 49:04
  Speaker 18: did Jerry hate that's coming around? I just I just
• 49:07
  Speaker 18: thought that he's done mostly what he should have done
• 49:10
  Speaker 18: since last year. No team wants to tell you when
• 49:15
  Speaker 18: they're in a rebuild, certainly not a salesman like Jerry.
• 49:19
  Speaker 18: But I've never heard any team do it. And when
• 49:21
  Speaker 18: you when you move on from two starting offensive linemen
• 49:25
  Speaker 18: and replace them with two rookies, you're rebuilding. I don't
• 49:29
  Speaker 18: care what you call it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just what it is.
• 49:34
  Speaker 18: And I think those were both the right moves. You
• 49:36
  Speaker 18: can't keep paying tiring that's just not going to work out.
• 49:38
  Speaker 18: You got to quit paying big money these older players
• 49:41
  Speaker 18: that you get less and less out of uh, and
• 49:44
  Speaker 18: then be honest. I always thought he was light, seemed
• 49:46
  Speaker 18: seemed to really hurt the running game most of the
• 49:48
  Speaker 18: time he was there. I think he's you know, good
• 49:52
  Speaker 18: good luck to him in Washington. Hat off to him.
• 49:54
  Speaker 18: Hope he does well. But not too much against Uscourt. Yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 18: so then when you do that, when you start a rebuilding. Now,
• 50:03
  Speaker 18: he got a lot of heat for not signing Derrick Henry,
• 50:07
  Speaker 18: but you don't go sign an older running back to
• 50:09
  Speaker 18: a big money contract when you're in a rebuild. You
• 50:12
  Speaker 18: save that money. And I think that they did mostly
• 50:16
  Speaker 18: what they were looking to do.
• 50:17
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 50:18
  Speaker 18: Their roster kind of matured the year before, got a
• 50:20
  Speaker 18: lot of players that you just didn't want to resign.
• 50:23
  Speaker 18: The only one you could really argue about would be Armstrong,
• 50:26
  Speaker 18: but I don't know that you could have paid him
• 50:28
  Speaker 18: with you know, they've kind of got some young guys
• 50:30
  Speaker 18: coming in.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: There to replace d Law.
• 50:32
  Speaker 18: And here once again, don't wanna, don't don't want to
• 50:34
  Speaker 18: pay big money out to d Law. Loved him, loved him,
• 50:37
  Speaker 18: loved him, but it's time. I got young guys coming
• 50:41
  Speaker 18: in there and let's just move on. I just think
• 50:44
  Speaker 18: that they're in a pretty good position from where they're
• 50:47
  Speaker 18: at now. You're only really down to a few positions here.
• 50:52
  Speaker 18: I think you go get you a Kendrick's like older
• 50:55
  Speaker 18: running linebacker in the free agency, bring you in Lewis,
• 51:00
  Speaker 18: and you're not down to fill in too many holes
• 51:02
  Speaker 18: in the draft.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Now, Larry, don't start bringing common sense into the show here, Okay.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: I mean like, I mean, you're right, you make you
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: make a lot of great points about the offensive line
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: and the rebuilding and all that. And when you think
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: about it too, the guys now that it's been a
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: full year, the guys that they lost, I mean, Tyron
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: being one of them, nobody ever comes back on that
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and say, well they should have got Tyron, you know,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: which that was a big, big thing. There's really not
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of those players that you looked at and said,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: you know, now, coaches maybe that maybe they shouldn't let
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: dan Quinn go, But but from a player's standpoint, no,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're right. I think they did make the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: right moves there.
• 51:43
  Speaker 18: Well, and even dan Quinn, I mean, I'm sorry, but
• 51:46
  Speaker 18: I remember when Overshown got hurt in the preseason there
• 51:51
  Speaker 18: and we had two real linebackers on the roster, and
• 51:53
  Speaker 18: I'm like, well, that's that you shouldn't have gone in
• 51:55
  Speaker 18: the season with three. You gotta go get somebody. And
• 51:58
  Speaker 18: I'll never forget dan Quinn said, he said, we don't
• 52:02
  Speaker 18: need to go get a linebacker because in my defense,
• 52:05
  Speaker 18: the safeties do the same thing. They cover the curl
• 52:07
  Speaker 18: and the and I'm like, whoa, wait a minute, what
• 52:10
  Speaker 18: about the run game? And while we're on that, I mean,
• 52:14
  Speaker 18: it's what the Packers do. Okay, they get you in,
• 52:17
  Speaker 18: they run the ball down your throat and when you crash,
• 52:20
  Speaker 18: the safety they got you because they're it's not really
• 52:23
  Speaker 18: play action for them, because it's not a call. Love reads,
• 52:27
  Speaker 18: the safety crashes, he goes over the top. And that's
• 52:31
  Speaker 18: the way the Cowboys.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Started that game.
• 52:34
  Speaker 18: Yeah, they had no chance to stop that team. I
• 52:36
  Speaker 18: think if they were still playing, Green Bay still wouldn't
• 52:39
  Speaker 18: have been stopped from scoring a touchdown. And injuries just
• 52:43
  Speaker 18: killed that team. And people don't want to say.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: What it is.
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: You can't.
• 52:47
  Speaker 18: You can't. You can't stop a running team that's going
• 52:50
  Speaker 18: to play action. You with one linebacker and a safety,
• 52:53
  Speaker 18: you can't. Yeah, nobody, nobody put that where that belonged.
• 52:57
  Speaker 18: But dan Quinn should have been the ones going, oh, well, yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 18: we got to have a linebacker now. Well they didn't,
• 53:02
  Speaker 18: and then Van der Ash got hurt and they ended
• 53:04
  Speaker 18: up with one.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: That was that.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with anything you're saying, so no, so
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I think they're.
• 53:11
  Speaker 18: In great shape. Go get your good wide receiver, get
• 53:14
  Speaker 18: you another defensive tackle, running back obviously resigned Daudell and Lewis,
• 53:18
  Speaker 18: and man, you're almost ready to go.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, Larry, appreciate good stuff. Two calls
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: in a row, one from Birmingham, England, you know, just
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: wondering how far away they are. Expectations really aren't that
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: high for this year. It's going to be tough to
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: turn things around. Another guy from Kansas, Hey, couple of
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: pieces here and there, which I lean a little bit
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: more to that way, because I do think, you know,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: if you're in them seven to ten range, you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: like they were, they're seven to ten and played half
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the season with the backup quarterback. Yeah, I think I
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: think they have a shot to turn things around. But
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: let's I'm not going to forget the fact that they weren't.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: They were struggling before that got hurt too, So it
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: wasn't like, you know, that just ended the season and
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: it went from there. There There was problems. There are
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: problems that the Saints game. You can't you can't deny
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: the Saints game. They were healthy and they played what
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: turned out to be a bad football team, and the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Saints just looked unstoppable. They were unstoppable. The Cowboys couldn't
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: do anything there. I'd like to take another break real quick.
• 54:27
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• 54:29
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• 54:33
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• 56:27
  Speaker 17: What's going on?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 56:30
  Speaker 17: I'm all right. That's a good read, man. It sounded
• 56:31
  Speaker 17: good my childhood when I saw those commercial Sunday.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Sundays, right, Gregg, Yeah, that wrestling, you know, it sounds
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: like it sounds like you're doing a call for wrestling.
• 56:45
  Speaker 17: It's the same guy doing all the voice over.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably the same fans too, I'm sorry.
• 56:49
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 56:50
  Speaker 17: Anyways, expanding on the whole thing about the cap, just
• 56:55
  Speaker 17: a real quick point. I did some math on the
• 56:58
  Speaker 17: guys that are losing, like the deputie, So they're losing.
• 57:01
  Speaker 17: It's about thirty five million dollars worth of just depth guys.
• 57:04
  Speaker 17: And that doesn't account for like Brandon Cooks and Zach
• 57:07
  Speaker 17: Martin and those guys. So figure thirty to thirty five
• 57:11
  Speaker 17: million dollars probably in just depth replacements they're going to
• 57:13
  Speaker 17: have to pay for on one year contracts year contract
• 57:16
  Speaker 17: forever might be. So I'm looking for them to sign
• 57:19
  Speaker 17: a bunch of guys because they got to sign guys.
• 57:21
  Speaker 17: I mean, they don't have the body, so they're going
• 57:22
  Speaker 17: to have to sign players. Yeah, but I think we're
• 57:25
  Speaker 17: going to be looking at guys in the three million
• 57:27
  Speaker 17: or less range, and then maybe if we get aggressive,
• 57:31
  Speaker 17: we look at DT and some linebackers, maybe in that
• 57:34
  Speaker 17: eight million dollar range. But that's kind of what I'm
• 57:36
  Speaker 17: looking for, maybe not first wave of pre agency, but
• 57:38
  Speaker 17: maybe second and third.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be different. There's no
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: way around it. Like they they will have to sign
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: players and they're gonna sign. This isn't one of those
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: twelve and five years where we love all our guys
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: and you just bring them back and all that. I
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: will say this, and I hope and you're you're one
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: of the smartest callers that we have here. There's no
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: doubt about it. And I'm not necessarily talking to you,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: but I do think there's a lot there's a perception
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: out there that like OsO Digie Zoo is not a
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: free is not a guy that they signed in free agency,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: when in reality, to me, he definitely is like he's
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: he's a free agent type player. They they said, no,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: we're not letting you get there. You're with us, we
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: drafted you, we've developed you, you're here. But that is
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: definitely a free agent move that they've made. It's not
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: like you know, oh, here comes free agency. Look at
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys once again not doing anything. They've done something already.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. They have done something already,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: and they got a guy and made sure he didn't
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: go to another team. That that is a big move.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I hope fans can realize that, you know.
• 58:44
  Speaker 17: But no, that's a good point because it does always
• 58:46
  Speaker 17: flip our minds. He's already here, so kind of but
• 58:49
  Speaker 17: that's a fair point.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it definitely. It counts a lot, actually twenty
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: million years.
• 58:55
  Speaker 17: But discount too good deal.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: It shockingly it is. And you don't what's funny, but
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: and I know you have a question here, but I
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: think this is kind of fun. We have over by
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: my office, we have two screens that are up one's
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: NFL network on ESPN or whatever, and the ESPN said
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys have reached the deal with you know Osa
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: for you know, four year, eighty twenty million year. And
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you look over the next screen and it said the
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Eagles have signed Saquon Barkley to an extension of twenty
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: one million a year. And you're thinking, here's Osa, who's
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: you know, sold good solid player, maybe on the verge
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: of being a pro bowler, And here's a guy jumping
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: backwards over people and should have probably won MVP in
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: my in my opinion, you know. And that's the difference
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: between a running back and a defensive tackle. And the
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: money that you know, Barkley is about the same as Osa.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: You know, and yeah, that's and that's the market. That's
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: not that's not one GM versus the other. That's what
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: the market tells you.
• 59:48
  Speaker 17: Sorry got paid because he's a pass rusher.
• 59:51
  Speaker 12: He's not.
• 59:51
  Speaker 17: I mean that's it's a segue in an next point.
• 59:53
  Speaker 10: So it's perfect.
• 59:54
  Speaker 17: You know, OSA, he needs a really good one technique
• 59:56
  Speaker 17: next time. He's never really had one.
• 59:58
  Speaker 18: Yeah, and I'm.
• 59:59
  Speaker 17: Looking at PFS because I'm not like a big x's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 17: and those guys like I don't know what I'm looking
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 17: at in film for defensive tackles. So I go by
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 17: PFF and their their grades a lot as a base
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 17: and they've never ranked him higher than thirty six against
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 17: the run with you know any DT's one TI's three
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 17: t's across the NFL. And so I think that'll improve
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 17: if he gets a nice one technique next And just
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 17: like every other position, you get a guy next to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 17: you that does his job really good, well, it only enhances.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: What you do.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 17: So you know, I'm not super excited about the OSA
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 17: sounding even though it is a really good deal. I'll
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 17: be way more excited about it once they sign a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 17: nice one technique And you can get one technique for
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 17: cheatment because they don't rush the faster, so they're not
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 17: like super coveted dudes that like break the bank. You know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 17: you're talking six to eight million for like a really
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 17: good one technique against the run. Who's you know in
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 17: the top fifteen to twenty ranked defensive tackles in that regard.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 17: So whether that's in the draft now, I think they
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 17: should still draft a guy to draft and develop, but
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 17: I think they also need to bring you know, a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 17: guy in and and once we do that, man, I'll
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 17: be way more pumped about this defensive mind forward as specifically.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Yeap hundred percent agree. Dealn't have anything else, no good stuff, man,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Good to hear from you. Yeah, I'm I mean, there's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: not going to be many positions that I would be
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: disappointed with in the first round with the Cowboys ticket twelve. Now,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: free agency is going to change some things, but but
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: not really, you know, because it's just a different type
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: of player. You know, you want to put some guys in.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: This guy will help you now and all that, But
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: if you feel like this player is the best player
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: then and we're talking about a five year investment, it
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't really matter nobody that you No one's gonna say, well,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: you already picked up this guy in free agency, why
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: would you draft him if that's the guy, that's the guy.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: And so other than quarterback and and tight end, those
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: are really the only two positions that I see that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: you that you wouldn't make a case for. You know,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I don't love the wide receiver spot there at twelve,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: but you know I didn't love it at seventeen either.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, but I mean, Ceedee Lamb, the light
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: was just flashing. I mean, here he is, he's dropping,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: he's dropping. And I remember that year because it was
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty. We were doing the draft show. We were
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: doing it. We were doing like a live show of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: you know, remote. Everybody was remote, and it was the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: one that Jamie Fox was doing with DeMarcus Ware and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: they had different guests coming in and it was my
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: turn to be on right when the cowboys were picking.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: And I remember Jamie Fox, of all people, asking me,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: what do you think here? You still like this defensive
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: guy Chase on you know it's about to be And
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I said, well, Jamie, you know here I am. Well, Jamie,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know Ceedee Lamb. Shir does look
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, yeah, I understand the defense of stuff,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: but I don't know how you can pass this guy.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: He was like, okay, well that's that's a good thought.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: And then they draft him again. I'm I'm sitting in
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: my house because it's twenty twenty. I don't know anything,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: and they draft STEEDE. Lambs. So Jamie Fox, like you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: called it, you called it. So that's one of my
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: claim to fames right there is just just have a
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: nice little chat there on the draft with Jamie Fox.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: You know, happens all the time. De wear Jamie Fox.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: It's kind of what we do. Uh. Rick and Webster, Massachusetts.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: What's up? Rick?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: Hey?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Nick? How you doing good?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: I'm all right, it's been it's been a while, like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: a week and a half.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Sure, I mean yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, it's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: not every day. Certainly miss missed the every day back
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: and forth. But uh, you know, giving everybody a little
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: bit of a break, get us, get us rolling there,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: we'll be we'll be back to business again here before
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: you know it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but Mike, it's he think, uh was As far
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: as free agency goes, I think, well, you know, dabbling
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: in at it, But the four fridges that I'm kind
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: of looking for were like Tyler Lockett as wide receiver,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: Nick Bolton as a linebacker, Lil Hernandez as an offensive tackle,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: and Ford is a defensive tackle.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I like what you're thinking, Rick, I like it. Now,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Will Hernandez he's with he was with the Cardinals, right, correct? Okay,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: so he's got the ties to Clayton Adams. Uh does
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: any of those other players have ties like that? Lockett, Schottenheimer?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Is that? Okay? Were there other ties to those players?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Is that why you just blindly threw those guys out there?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Or do they all have some kind of connections?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: No, they don't have.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: The other ones don't have Canucks to Dino, but we've
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: heard a lot of their names mentioned for Brian Broadest
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: and everybody else.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Sure, Puma Ford I think would be a perfect implement
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: type player to Osa of what Dylan was just talking about.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Just that one technique, hard to move, that's what they need.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, they definitely need a guy like that. I'm
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: not sure that's gonna that really should be Mazzi's position.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I think Mazzi and Osa should be the three techniques.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: But break the bank, those players.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I I like it. I like those
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: four that you're talking about. Those those could be some
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: really good will Hernandez I think would be a really
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: good pick. I mean, he's got some nastiness to him,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: especially if he comes in knowing kind of what they're
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: trying to do up front. He was a guy that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: they really liked back in the day. And it's been
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: a while, but they liked him. I can't remember what
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: draft it was, but I know because Brondus was here,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: Bronnas would not stop talking about him.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And he's had a good, good, solid career. He might
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: be a good type of plug and play type guard
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: that you would need. There.
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  Speaker 5: That's it, so good week next week.
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  Speaker 2: All right, sounds good. Good to hear from you. Let's
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  Speaker 2: keep it going here, making sure I don't have any
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  Speaker 2: more questions from the chat. You guys, if you're listening,
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  Speaker 2: All right, Chris and Saratoga Springs, New York. Chris, what's up?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: Hey, Macky Friday?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, appreciate it. Happy Friday to you.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: How are you not bad?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 10: I'm going on Friday, that's for sure. I'm ready for
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 10: a free agency to start, ready for the draft, getting
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 10: pumped up for that. You just said a minute ago
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 10: that we're all set at quarterback in tight end. But
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 10: what happens if that tight end from Penn State slips
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 10: and is there at twelve?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Is that? Is that? Is that a slip? I mean,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: I again, I say it all the time. I watch
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: all these mock drafts come through, and I just saw
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: one that said ashtroon genty at twenty two to Pittsburgh.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm a little surprised by that. But is Warren
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: is his name, right? I don't remember his first name,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Tyler Warren from Penn State?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 19: Uh?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: Is he?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Is he a guy that's before twelve? I mean I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: would I get to Yeah, you think you will, Okay,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I I haven't looked at it that closely. I know
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: he's in that range, man, I don't think so. I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: that's a tough one like like that would have to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: go to how he's rated. Because the reason why I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: say it's a tough one for me is if you
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: have a dynamic tight end changes everything. It really does.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: If you have a guy like Kelsey's been for Kansas
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: City who can play inside, can play outside, he messes
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: up your entire defensive alignment. That makes these other receivers
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: so valuable because of he is a mismatched nightmare. And
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: if you have that at tight end, you're you're different.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: And so if he's that guy, then you're right. Maybe.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: So what do you see, Adam? You follow him his
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: career a little bit.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 10: More, I have he is. They compare him to George Kittle,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 10: and obviously George Kill's a nightmare.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cover, yeah, telling me. I've covered the Cowboys forty
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: nine ers games.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 10: Compare them with Ferguson. I don't know what the defenses
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: would do. I think would open it up for our
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 10: wide receivers because they have both of those guys on
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: the field at the same time. And he's played This
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: guy played running back, he played quarterback, he played wide receiver.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: He lines up a wide receiver, he lines up everywhere,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: and they've they said he's literally a nightmare mapped up
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 10: for teams. I think, I don't know. I'm hoping he's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 10: not there as well, because I don't know what what
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: they would do if he is there. But I think
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 10: he's he would be a He's going to be a
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 10: heck of a parole, to be honest one.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: I'm watching the last day draft real quick, though, Chris.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I've watched in the draft, uh mock draft here that's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: going going by here. I don't I haven't seen his
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: name at twenty yet. And I see another tight end
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: that just went Loveland. But I haven't seen unless I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: missed the first five picks.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I maybe I did. Maybe is he a top
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: five pick?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: He's in the they I've seen him in the top
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 10: ten in multiple ones.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Because I just I just saw it, and and and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Jens went at six and Shador Sanders went seven. He's
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: kind of falling a little bit. Maybe I missed the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: first five and he went there. And I can't even
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: read who Eric edlum from?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 19: Uh?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I think from NFL dot com. But you know, it's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: a funny. Nobody knows right now, like nobody nobody knows.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: I just saw two mock drafts in a row. One's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: got Gent going twenty two. One's got him going six.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Eric at home his first mock draft. Who knows if
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: he's if he's that guy? Uh, maybe you know, I'm
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be opposed to it, you know, I mean,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: this is it's it's it's crazy to me. Here comes
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: another mock draft coming through, and it's Travis Hunter is fifth.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: If Travis Hunter hasn't been picked in the top four
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: picks and he's sitting there at five. If I'm Jerry Jones,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I'm getting on the getting on the phone. What does
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: it take. I think he's a generational There's no way,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: there's there's I'm sorry, there's no way he's he's gonna
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: go he's not gonna go one or two. I just
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: saw and this other mock Tyler Warren fourteenth to the
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: cold I see that a lot. Actually, Warren to the Colts.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: They must need a tight end. Sorry, I'm all over
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: the map here, Chris. I know you got another question.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Go for it now.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 10: I had one more. What is your thoughts on linebacker
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 10: from Sam fran green Law coming signing to him coming
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: back with that Sam Frank coach we snagged from them.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: I'm a fan of his Dre Greenlaw just because you know,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I'm an Arkansas guy, and he was a better pro
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: than he was as a college player. And he was
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: a good college player, but he's been even a better pro,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: which kind of pisses you off a little bit. When
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: you're an Arkansas fan. You're like really, like, you know,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: you got a Pro Bowl player, but he wasn't an
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: All conference player. And again, sec is it's hard to beat.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it'd be all conference. But he's been a really,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: really good player, There's no doubt about it. Achilles injuries
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: are tough, you know, think about it and think about
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: how he had that injury. What it at the Super
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Bowl like walking onto the field scary? Stuff. It happens,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: freaky type play. But if he's back and at a level, yeah,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: I I could definitely see that. I think he's even
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: from the area, so only that might he might have
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: some interest there. But it's about value, and you're gonna
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: get value on a player that's coming off an injury
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: like that, and you know, is he is he back?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Is he gonna? Is he gonna be a comeback type player?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: That's that's what it comes down to. That's how you
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: steal value. And Jerry's all about it. So why he
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: does second round picks that are coming off to some
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: kind of injuries or some kind of issue. He's always
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: tried to do it and and that would be the
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: case with free agency too. All right, Chris, thanks for
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: the call. Uh, let's go to Armando. He's in Mexico City. Armando, good,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: how are you doing?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 20: Glad to find you because he's getting over once a
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 20: week and then moving.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 9: Day start all right, moving target.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 17: But what you found is yeah, yeah, I have to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 17: ask you.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: A question, r mind. I'm asked you a questions. Among
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: your friends and family, do they consider you like the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: funny guy?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: Ah?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 20: Well, I don't know.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 11: I guess because because you're hilarious to me, Like, I
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 11: don't know if you even trying to be funny, but
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 11: you every time you talk it, whether it be your
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 11: girlfriend that you from what forty nine ers fan that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 11: you're gonna put in the portal or something like that,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 11: Like you're you're hilarious to me.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I just wonder do your your friends and family thank
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: your is funny? I think you're pretty funny.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 20: Well, thanks, I really appreciate that.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 17: But that's kind of natural, so.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 20: Not something that I actually work on.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: So then that's that's why it's funny. Then that's why
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: it's funny. If you're not even trying, you're just like
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: that's good. All right, Sorry, go ahead, man, No.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: That's finely.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 10: Thanks.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 20: Well, just wondering now that I so far. I like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 20: what they've done on free agency with their own veegens.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 20: I like the signing of Osa. Do think that changes
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 20: the way they're gonna draft? I mean, thinking of a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 20: defensive line on the first two or three rounds.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think it should change their their thought. I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: said that a few minutes ago. I just if you've
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: got another defensive tackle that can that can be you know,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: that's rated high go for it. I mean, he would
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: be five years behind Osa. So get another guy in there.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I know Washington, they had Alan and Payne for years,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: like it was. It was tough. Now they didn't have
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of help on the other side, but I
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: mean they kept them in games when they weren't as
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: talented because you just couldn't run the ball in there.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: So if you've got another guy, now, the only thing
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: about that is you've got Mazie and you've got now Osa.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: They both seem to be three tech naque type guys.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: So I would need another defensive tackle that's pretty big,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: maybe a one technique And I don't know if you're
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: going to see that in the first couple of rounds. Maybe,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it, but I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: think it probably need to be a different size. I'd
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: rather have a defensive end and there. I still think
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: that they need a little bit more pass rush help.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 20: Yeah, especially with the Marcus Lawrence situation.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just see a news alert that I just
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: mentioned Jonathan Allen. Looks like the Commanders are releasing him.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: You know, he's had some injuries, but hey, I mean
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: those that'd be I'm telling you it's about to get
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: really fun around here. It really is. I have a
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: feeling this year is going to be one of the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: better years that we've seen in a while. From from
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys free agency, I just I just think the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: vibes are good. The vibes have never been better. From
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff, everyone's loving it. And I even think
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Jerry and Steven are gonna they're gonna get You know,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: when you when you give somebody, you know, a new
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: position here, you want to look right, you want to say, oh,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: this was Look, this is the right move. You're gonna
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: do everything you can to kind of help him. And
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: so I think they're gonna give him a little bit
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: more resources than maybe we've seen in the past. And uh,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: I think, and this is the year to do it.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: When you're coming off a year you missed the playoffs,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, try to turn things around.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 9: Well we'll see, all right, all right, well.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: You too, all right see later, Armando, good stuff. All right,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Well it's been a it's been a fun show. Appreciate
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: you guys calling it. We do have another call it
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: on there. I don't see it, so just give it
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: to me blind. Just this play around. There'll see if
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: I know who it is. Maybe it's the first time.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: All right, let's just see welcome to the show. What's up.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: I think you're going to know who this is and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: definitely not a first time caller.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: That's how you in the show. I like it. All right,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: let's go out with a bang, Robin Vegas. What's up?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you made it in. I don't see it
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: on the That's all right.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: Listen, you're hearing the fans. You know, you hear guys
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: don't have you know much hope, and then you hear guys,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: I like what they're doing so far. Signing Osa, he
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: got paid good money for a good player, good money
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: in NFL terms. Yeah, you know so, I thought that
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: was actually a good move. I'm not going to give
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: them credit if they sign Micah. Tell me an owner
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: that wanted to sign him.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: So well, what if they get I mean, honestly, what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: would you give him credit for signing him right now
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: and try to, you know, create a little space and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: keep keep some money out there so they can go
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: get some other free agents? Would you give them credit
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: for that? If they do that, they haven't done it.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: If they do.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I listen. We keep talking about this team,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: and I keep hearing people say, rebuild a team with
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: a top ten quarterback, top two receiver and Micah Parsons
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: teams like that, don't rebuild.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think. I don't agree with that.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know who's saying that, but I don't agree
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: with that either. This is not a rebuild.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I keep hearing the last the other caller said, well,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: this is a rebuild. No, you and and what you
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: want to prove something to me and the fan. You
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: just restructured dak Now why would you do that? Because
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: that's a bad move technically if you're not going to
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: go for it in the next two to three year
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: window that you're going to have. So I agree with
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: the call. Go get a green law. Draft Wise, you
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: need a you need a running back, You need a receive.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: A guy like Keenan Allen's out there that would be
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 6: a good wide receiver.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Don't you know I don't hate That'll be Wise?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: You got you got Turpid. I know you don't like Turpid.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: But when I think no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: I know I know you don't like him. As the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: deep threat.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as just the deep threat. I think he can
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: be a gadget guy. He can really be a mismatch guy.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: But I want more of a traditional receiver as a
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: deep threat too. Don't don't get me wrong.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: I think I think he'd be great in the slot
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: like Cole Beasley was, just faster. Yeah, And I think
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: you gotta if you get a Keenan Allen, a big
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: wide receiver who is consistently good. You know, Devata Adams
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 6: sounds good than I. Then I paying him. Then I
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to. I don't need another
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 6: twenty five million dollar guy. You know. But like I said, Jerry,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: let's you know now, he's he's you know, I don't
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: know why he does it. I know he's older. My
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: father just turned to yesterday. I get it. You say, So,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: why would you just be quiet? Why you're talking? And
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: I don't see you filling any spots at free agencies.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: You have to because if you don't, you can't compete.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: Just be quiet.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: Enjoy the osis success. It's one of the few moves
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: that I think every fan was like, Hey, that was
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: a pretty good movie you made.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 8: Enjoy you know, but.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: You're gonna have to bring in some some really good
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: players because you know Philadelphia is that's the problem. You know,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: make make some moves and read not at your restructure, Dak.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: You're gonna you're gonna live with him now for four
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: years at least. Let's let's go for it. Let's let's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: build but not that far behind if we if we
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: get some good pieces and and and do some good
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: things in the draft, but you gotta spend some money.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, you just have to.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate the call. Thanks Rob as All's a great
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: way to end the show. I'm gonna I'm gonna say
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: one thing. Sometimes you have to kind of decipher a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: little bit with what Jerry's saying. I I think really
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  Speaker 2: what he said in this case was he doesn't think
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  Speaker 2: that you're filling the void that you have. If you
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  Speaker 2: have a void, that you fill it with free agency.
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  Speaker 2: They like, we don't have a corner. We gotta fill
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  Speaker 2: it there. I think the voids are the backup spots.
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  Speaker 2: Now they they're gonna they're gonna get some And I
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  Speaker 2: say that really more from like a cornerback standpoint. They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna sign some players that are gonna be starters on
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  Speaker 2: this team. So if that happens, you guys might call
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  Speaker 2: that a void. Hey we need another linebacker. They signed
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  Speaker 2: this guy. He's probably gonna start Eric Kendricks. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: really have a linebacker. They signed him in that kind
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  Speaker 2: of field, a void that they have. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: do that. I don't I don't. I don't think it
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  Speaker 2: matters what Jerry said there, because they are going to
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  Speaker 2: do that. And I think in y'all's minds that that
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  Speaker 2: is a void. If you need something and he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: come in here and help start and they signed him,
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  Speaker 2: that's filling a void. I think Jerry's talking more about
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  Speaker 2: about like avoid means I don't have a problem anymore.
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  Speaker 2: They're not gonna sign guys like that because that's very
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  Speaker 2: rare in free agency that you bring a player in
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  Speaker 2: in free agency and now you don't have the issue anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess Philly thought that way, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when they when they drafted or when they when they
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  Speaker 2: they brought in Zach Sakwon Barkley, Like okay, now now
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  Speaker 2: we're good there. But that's rare. I mean, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: go sign a free agent player and that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't draft that same position, because these free agents
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  Speaker 2: are going to be one year, two year. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a five year investment really like it is in the draft.
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  Speaker 2: So I I wouldn't worry too much about that. They
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  Speaker 2: have to sign players in free agency, whether it be
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: their own or outside. They're gonna sign a lot more
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  Speaker 2: from the outside than they have in the past, and
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  Speaker 2: some of those guys are going to start and I
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  Speaker 2: think in your mind that's going to be filling a void.
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  Speaker 2: I think it might just be seeing it a little
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  Speaker 2: bit different way. They're going to do that. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to sign key players in free agency this year, probably
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  Speaker 2: more than ever, and I think you're gonna be excited
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  Speaker 2: about it. I don't know if that makes sense, but
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  Speaker 2: that's my take on it. I wouldn't worry so much
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  Speaker 2: about what Jerry is saying. I never worry about that.
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  Speaker 2: I always go back to the four days before the
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen draft when they told us that running back
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  Speaker 2: is not the value anymore like it used to be.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't draft them that high, and four days later,
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  Speaker 2: Ezekiel Eliott was flying into Dallas. This is the time
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  Speaker 2: of year where you don't have to show your hand
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  Speaker 2: all the time. I think they're going to do more
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  Speaker 2: than you think. All right, great show, guys, as always
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  Speaker 2: got to get out of here on a Friday. We'll
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  Speaker 2: be back to regular a schedule on Wednesday next week.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first day of free agency. Plenty to talk
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: about then we'll talk about it then Wednesday on Cowboys Storyline.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: So for Chris Bean and also I'm going to give
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: a shout out to the people working on the app
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  Speaker 2: back there and getting some of those questions in. Josh
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  Speaker 2: and Fask a great job as well. Appreciate the hard
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: work everyone has done. Have a great weekend. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: you next week on Cowboy Storyline.
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