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Change Your Mindset, Change Your Life with Garrain Jones · Deeply Well with Devi Brown

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Speaker 1: I so appreciate everyone that has taken in time to
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Speaker 1: So this episode, and I know, I know, I say
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Speaker 1: this all the time. It's so special, but everyone that
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Speaker 1: comes on the show is so special to me. We've
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Speaker 1: known each other at so many different layers and levels
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Speaker 1: of um our journeys, I should say. But the crazy
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Speaker 1: thing is this person we first connected um maybe twelve
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Speaker 1: thirteen years ago, and then life kind of took us
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Speaker 1: in different directions. I haven't actually laid eyes on him
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Speaker 1: in eight years. And in that eight years, when I
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Speaker 1: tell you, so much has happened that it's kind of
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Speaker 1: cool because in this moment, I'm meeting a version of
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Speaker 1: him that I have not known yet. So I'm probably
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Speaker 1: just excited as excited as you guys are to hear
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Speaker 1: what he has to say. But I would love for
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Speaker 1: you to please welcome to the show. Garon Jones Man
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Speaker 1: Stories for Days. Thank you dev for this uh opportunity
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Speaker 1: is crazy. When you reached out to me asked me
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Speaker 1: to be on it, I was like, well, we've got
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Speaker 1: a lot of catching up to do, so it's like
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Speaker 1: but so just so y'all know, we haven't even had
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to catch up. So we'll be catching up
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Speaker 1: fresh ears right now on this episode. Like when he
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Speaker 1: walked in the house, Like the first thing we did
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Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, okay, so what happened here
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Speaker 1: and what are you doing? When it did? It is
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Speaker 1: and then I was like, wait, stop talking, stop talking
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Speaker 1: to get to the studio because I want all of
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Speaker 1: this to be fresh for me too as it's fresh
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Speaker 1: for you. So a little background gearing. Um, I actually
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Speaker 1: have a hard time calling you Garen, because I knew
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Speaker 1: you as a different incarnation of yourself. I actually as
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Speaker 1: a tremendously multitalented musician, singer, songwriter, Um, step Jones. That's
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Speaker 1: how I knew you as Steph Jones, UM. And that
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Speaker 1: was when, of course, like I was working in FM
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Speaker 1: radio and kind of on the music scene more and
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Speaker 1: you were doing music and you were definitely like a
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Speaker 1: Hollywood socialite um at the time that we became friends
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Speaker 1: and completely in the mix would be at all of
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Speaker 1: the parties and all of the things, and um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so this is like really really special. So let's start
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Speaker 1: from the top. Yeah, you're from Houston. You came to
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Speaker 1: Hollywood because I knew there was something I knew when
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Speaker 1: I was a little kid that I was that I
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Speaker 1: didn't belong there. I needed to be somewhere else where
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Speaker 1: I could uh just just like share the arts and
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Speaker 1: and just be stimulated because I was bored in Houston. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's so funny because we actually, even though you're from Houston,
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Speaker 1: we met before I ever even conceived of living in Houston.
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Speaker 1: We met like in Hollywood. Um, but yeah, it's it's
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Speaker 1: so it's really striking to me sometimes how many people
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Speaker 1: I meet from Houston that are so talented that have
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Speaker 1: migrated to l A, New York. Like, I feel like
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Speaker 1: I meet more Houston people in l A than I
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Speaker 1: do l A. People tell me a little bit about
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Speaker 1: that kind of experience, being young and popping on the
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Speaker 1: scene in Hollywood, and maybe some of the deeper layers
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Speaker 1: the background to what was happening, you know what, deep
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Speaker 1: down the side, and honestly, and this is like just
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Speaker 1: being being honest, I never liked it. It was the
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Speaker 1: only place I knew that I could do something that
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Speaker 1: I loved. But the industry was cool, but I didn't
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Speaker 1: like I seen too much. I knew too much like
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Speaker 1: some of my best friends, I've seen what was going on,
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Speaker 1: just stuff that was going on behind the scenes. And
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Speaker 1: and how people would mess people over, still their money,
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Speaker 1: still their royalties. People stole my royalties from songs that
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Speaker 1: I wrote, number one hit songs on platinum selling artists
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Speaker 1: that they never gave me credit. It was but and
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Speaker 1: and I would always hear people say, well, you gotta
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Speaker 1: you gotta pay the price, and I just like, man,
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Speaker 1: there's gotta be another way to be success. You got
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Speaker 1: to earn your stripes. Yeah, And I just you know,
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Speaker 1: that was the only way I knew how to function.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to get out. If I knew
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Speaker 1: another way, I would have done it because I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't happy, like the entire time I was only
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Speaker 1: the only time I was happy is when I was
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Speaker 1: actually creating the music and getting feedback from the people
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Speaker 1: that would listen to the music everything else that came
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Speaker 1: with it. Deep down inside, I'm like, something ain't right,
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Speaker 1: Like I look at my favorite artists. Five years later,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened today? Soul? And I'm like, and
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Speaker 1: when the same thing started happening to me, you can't
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Speaker 1: see the picture while you're in the frame. So when
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Speaker 1: it started happened to me, I'm like, well, how do
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Speaker 1: I tell people I'm not making any money? But I
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Speaker 1: got songs on the radio, I'm featured on I'm featured
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Speaker 1: on the news, and all these different things. However, I'm broke.
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Speaker 1: I can't pay child support right now. And I was
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Speaker 1: too shameful to get a nine to five job because
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Speaker 1: I had to maintain an image, and there was lots
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Speaker 1: of my friends in the same exact predicament. So who's
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Speaker 1: really going to be the first person to be like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go get a job. So I
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Speaker 1: was willing to ride that out, living my car for
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Speaker 1: two and a half years while putting on the image
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Speaker 1: of Hollywood to be like, yo, I'm trying to get
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Speaker 1: like you, but deep down inside, I'm like, I'm dying
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Speaker 1: right now. So my my image of Hollywood ain't what
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Speaker 1: is what they show on to what they glamorized on TV.
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Speaker 1: Because it wasn't it wasn't pretty for me, but it
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Speaker 1: was so necessary for me to go through that so
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Speaker 1: that I could see where I didn't belong. Wow, what
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Speaker 1: was that? Tell me more about that experience of like
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Speaker 1: the juxtaposition of homelessness while you're having this perceived huge success.
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Speaker 1: So um, you know. But yeah, it was a perceived
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Speaker 1: huge success because I was I on the way to
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Speaker 1: position myself to be around a bunch of celebrities, and
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Speaker 1: I was just like, well, maybe if I'm seen with them,
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Speaker 1: people will see that I'm actually talented. But I was
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Speaker 1: seeing people they were doing some crazy stuff to get
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Speaker 1: put on and I'm like, one, I'm keeping my manhood. Two,
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Speaker 1: I respect myself. Three I'm not going through all this
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Speaker 1: crazy stuff just to get my my song on the radio.
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Speaker 1: And these are these not stuff I heard. These were
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Speaker 1: things that I solve my own eyes. And I'm just like, yo,
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Speaker 1: this this industry is crazy. Well, the industry is not crazy.
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Speaker 1: There were crazy people in the industry that were abusing
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Speaker 1: their power. So the industry is amazing. The crazy people
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Speaker 1: is the problem. Yeah, And it was so especially back
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Speaker 1: then it was so unregulated, like we weren't having conversations
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Speaker 1: like we could have now like the Harvey Weinstein conversation.
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Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to have those conversations. Then social media
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Speaker 1: wasn't popping like it was now. Yeah, So just going
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Speaker 1: through that whole thing, the thing about it was I
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Speaker 1: keep myself so busy that I wouldn't have to think
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Speaker 1: about my own life. So, you know, I would be
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Speaker 1: in the studio to three o'clock in the morning and
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Speaker 1: I would do this, and I would be doing all
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Speaker 1: these other different things and doing music videos. But I
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Speaker 1: will always make enough money just so that I could
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Speaker 1: pay back the people who paid me money, pay back
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Speaker 1: my mom, paid back child support, and I would. And
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Speaker 1: it's just no matter how much money I made, I
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Speaker 1: was always stuck in the same spot. And but I
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Speaker 1: would keep myself so busy that I would that that
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Speaker 1: that I would not look at the truth, which was
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Speaker 1: I wasn't happy, I wasn't being responsible, and so I
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Speaker 1: was willing to be fake so that I wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: to look at my authentic self, dress, fake talk, fake
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Speaker 1: fit in side or whatever group I could fit inside of,
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Speaker 1: just so I wouldn't have to look at myself in
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Speaker 1: the mirror, my real self when nobody's around and the
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Speaker 1: truth shows up. How many people listening right now, take
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Speaker 1: a second, can really relate to that, either in this
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Speaker 1: moment or as a previous version of yourself. Yeah. That
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Speaker 1: And it's so funny because I think not to the
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Speaker 1: same extent, But like when I first took a job
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Speaker 1: in Houston and I moved there, I remember I had
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Speaker 1: like one of the biggest shifting, internally shifting years of
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Speaker 1: my life because it's the first time I had been
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Speaker 1: that isolated. Even though I was working and still kind
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Speaker 1: of on the scene and had to be out and
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Speaker 1: stuff there, it was out of my comfort zone. I
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Speaker 1: moved there and didn't know a soul, you know, and
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Speaker 1: it really it really showed me how much I had
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Speaker 1: been distracting myself with fun while I lived in l A.
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Speaker 1: It was so easy to not deal with like the
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Speaker 1: hidden traumas or my past because I was so busy
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Speaker 1: and busy doing really exciting, like admirable things, you know.
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Speaker 1: So then you get to take on that persona and
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Speaker 1: that role and just view yourself through that lens of
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Speaker 1: being popping when there's like this whole real, authentic, deep
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Speaker 1: internalized version of you that's standing there, like bitch, pay attention,
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Speaker 1: to me right, and then you go through that and
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Speaker 1: if people start digging you up while you're in that
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Speaker 1: fake stage, that's the It's like being a being in
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Speaker 1: a prison inside of a prison. So it's like, I'm
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Speaker 1: an act. How you how you think I think you
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Speaker 1: think I should act? So it's like being in a
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Speaker 1: prison inside of a prison because I'm not being myself.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing this because it's that's that approval that you're
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Speaker 1: giving me and feeding me in everybody's feeding me. You're popping,
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Speaker 1: you're popping. Oh, I gotta keep this image because if
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Speaker 1: I don't keep this image, they'll see that who I
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Speaker 1: really am, They're not gonna like this one. Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: we were trained to believe, just from like unprocessed emotion
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Speaker 1: when we're growing up, that the real you is unworthy,
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Speaker 1: that the real you is not enough and undeserving and unlovable.
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Speaker 1: And so you stack and stack and stack with all
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Speaker 1: this different posturing, all these different you know, facades and
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Speaker 1: mass and I was wondering even during that time, I'm like, yo,
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Speaker 1: why can't I keep money? It don't matter what how
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Speaker 1: big of a job I get, All of a sudden
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Speaker 1: is gone. I'm like, where did this money go. And
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Speaker 1: what I didn't realize is money is energy, and that's
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Speaker 1: it's It's a piece of paper with preconceived value. So
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Speaker 1: the value that you see in yourself your money matches
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Speaker 1: the value that you see in yourself. So if you
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Speaker 1: have a low value standard of yourself, there's no possible
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Speaker 1: way abundance is gonna come in your life because you
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Speaker 1: don't even see abundance. So if you grow up in
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Speaker 1: a household and your mom says, we don't have any money,
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Speaker 1: we don't have any money. We're broke, we don't have
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Speaker 1: any money, you grow up with the mindset of I
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Speaker 1: can't afford it, I can't afford it, I can't afford it.
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Speaker 1: So there's no possible way you can speak abundance in
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Speaker 1: or even have the frequency and energy of abundance if
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Speaker 1: you're looking through the framework of I'm not enough, I
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Speaker 1: don't I can't afford it, I'm not valuable. So abundance
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Speaker 1: doesn't make its way into those people's lives, just like
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Speaker 1: somebody who wins the lottery, two months later they go
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Speaker 1: bankrupt because they weren't that person. Yeah, yeah, God, that
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Speaker 1: is so real, and you know it's so funny. About
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Speaker 1: that thought like it it goes. It can also go
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Speaker 1: in so many directions, like when you view the world
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Speaker 1: from a space of lack or from a space of
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Speaker 1: like you being ashamed of yourself or not accepting of
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Speaker 1: yourself because to that is and it could go to ways.
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Speaker 1: You could either really not know how to handle money
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Speaker 1: or not not spend because you're thinking, you know, you're
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Speaker 1: not attracting abundance, or you could be on the flip
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Speaker 1: side and spend it all on like luxury goods because
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Speaker 1: you're trying to create even more framework for yourself to
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Speaker 1: be viewed so you can. Like even people that are
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Speaker 1: perceived as highly successful because they got all the fire fits,
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Speaker 1: they got the car, they're doing everything on the ground
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Speaker 1: that is posturing too. That is the same, you know,
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Speaker 1: that is I'm throwing all my money into this because
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Speaker 1: I want you to view me as being enough. I
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Speaker 1: want I want to feel elevated above other people, and
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Speaker 1: that's what will make me feel good about myself. Absolutely absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a very powerful conversation. And
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Speaker 1: the worst part about it is of the people have
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Speaker 1: no clue. It's a it's a it's a unconscious thing.
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Speaker 1: And you can't change what you're not aware of, So
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Speaker 1: to go to your grave never having lived the life
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Speaker 1: that you were truly meant to live because you were
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Speaker 1: living for other people. And I want to I want
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Speaker 1: to sit there for a second. So let me flash
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Speaker 1: forward for a second and we'll get into more of
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Speaker 1: this later in the show. But flash forward many years
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Speaker 1: in this moment. You are a celebrated, critically acclaimed global speaker.
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Speaker 1: You've spoken in front of massive audiences, spoke sixty three
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Speaker 1: countries in the last three years, sixty three countries on
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Speaker 1: a stage in sixty three countries. You've made a ton
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Speaker 1: of money, You've done a ton of cool things. You
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Speaker 1: have a book coming out November called Change Your Mindset,
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Speaker 1: Change Your Life. Wow Wow. And I own five houses
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Speaker 1: five houses, well, I do real estate development. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: it's it's just moving. I love to see things move
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Speaker 1: and transform. So I transformed bodies, minds, energy, transformed money.
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Speaker 1: Like I just love to watch something start from one
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Speaker 1: area and watch the developmental the evolution of something else.
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Speaker 1: There's just something so beautiful, um about that process. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And you're getting married. Yeah, I'm getting I'm getting me
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Speaker 1: for anybody who know me of all people. Garin Stefan
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Speaker 1: Jones is getting married November twenty three to somebody who
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Speaker 1: I really want to get married to, who I know.
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Speaker 1: God was like, I need you to be right because
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Speaker 1: when you write, I'm gonna introduce you to your mirror.
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Speaker 1: Oh I could write a book on that process. Oh
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Speaker 1: it's crazy men need that. Oh yeah, you know what.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of years ago, because again, in the
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Speaker 1: last eight years, like we've communicated somewhat on social media,
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Speaker 1: like you know, like comments, d m s. You know,
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Speaker 1: we've been able to kind of peek into each other's journeys,
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Speaker 1: but we haven't had like our old school Danny conversations,
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Speaker 1: right you're talking about By the way, the reason why
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Speaker 1: she says Danny because she allowed me to sleep on
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Speaker 1: her couch when I was living in my car. One
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Speaker 1: day she took me to Danny's, paid for my food. Yes,
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Speaker 1: dev is the issue with no toilet paper. She's a
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Speaker 1: really great friend. So that's what she means by Danny conversation.
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Speaker 1: For anybody that doesn't have context. Well, you know, so
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Speaker 1: this was the funny part to me stuff and I
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Speaker 1: have to share this with you, like, you know, some
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Speaker 1: years ago, as you were really like kind of stepping
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Speaker 1: into the fullness of your life. You had put up
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Speaker 1: this post on Instagram and it was a picture of
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Speaker 1: your old jeep and I think, um, your storage unit.
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Speaker 1: In that post, you told this like beautiful and also
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Speaker 1: to me heartbreaking story about the fact that you had
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Speaker 1: been homeless for a couple of years, that you have
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Speaker 1: been living out of your car, that you you know,
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Speaker 1: the things that you belonged were in the storage unit
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Speaker 1: and there every day to change and to get ready
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Speaker 1: for your day. And I started crying when I read that,
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Speaker 1: because you probably don't realize this, but I had no idea,
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Speaker 1: like I had. I had no idea, you know. And
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Speaker 1: it's like we we were young too. It's like at
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Speaker 1: that point we probably didn't even know how. At certain
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Speaker 1: ages you don't yet know how to even talk about
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Speaker 1: the darkest parts of you or you know, so you
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Speaker 1: don't have the language yet or the openness um. But
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Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I just knew you as a really,
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Speaker 1: really great person. I had an assumption that maybe something
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Speaker 1: had happened, but I didn't have the book to think that,
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Speaker 1: Oh no, like this has been your experience. So like
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Speaker 1: we had, we had hung out. I think we had
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Speaker 1: done something. I know you had. Like, so, first of all,
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Speaker 1: what y'all don't realize if if this is like your
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Speaker 1: first time appearing of the other version of step Jones,
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Speaker 1: Like his voice is crazy, is one of the most
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Speaker 1: like glorious singing voice is um an incredible pin game
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Speaker 1: with songwriting. But so I think we were talking about
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Speaker 1: music and at that time I was like really trying
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Speaker 1: to get you on the radio, and I was trying
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Speaker 1: to like push your songs different places, um, and we
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Speaker 1: had got we had gone out to eat, and I
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Speaker 1: don't remember why. I could definitely tell that there was
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Speaker 1: something something had happened. I think my assumption was like
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Speaker 1: you and you in a roommate had got into it,
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Speaker 1: and I knew you needed someplace to say so I
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Speaker 1: was like, don't worry about it. Crashed on my couch,
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Speaker 1: here's the towel, Like let yourself out, like when I
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Speaker 1: had to work, like like do your thing. There's some
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Speaker 1: water in the fridge. Again, I was not even this
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Speaker 1: was a tiny apartment in North Hollywood, so it was
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Speaker 1: not my current life scene. But so I didn't I
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Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, And then we we'd stayed in touch.
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Speaker 1: And when I first moved to Houston, Um, that's when
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Speaker 1: I found out you were from Houston because your mom
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Speaker 1: lived there and you were there for a visit and
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Speaker 1: you invited me over for a family meal. And that definitely,
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Speaker 1: in that moment helped me because I felt so alone
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Speaker 1: at the time. It was my first full of maybe
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Speaker 1: months of living somewhere where I didn't know a soul.
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Speaker 1: I'm rebuilding. I'm deeply homesick, um, and so being able
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Speaker 1: to be connected to you and your mom and have
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Speaker 1: you know, delicious meals and people you know, feel at home.
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Speaker 1: But so when I when I read that post, I
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Speaker 1: was just kind of I was blown away. And then
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Speaker 1: I felt a little bit of Jill, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: why didn't he tell me? Like he could have crashed
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Speaker 1: on my couch every day if he needed to, Like right,
20:25
Speaker 1: you know, it was crazy when you and a lot
20:28
Speaker 1: of people can relate to this, it's you're not raised, uh,
20:36
Speaker 1: knowing the skills and the how to communicate those things.
20:41
Speaker 1: And I was so ashamed. I was so ashamed that
20:45
Speaker 1: I couldn't How could I someone who had been signed
20:50
Speaker 1: to Jet Deaf Jam, who had been on the MTV
20:53
Speaker 1: who had you know, have been written songs for Chris
20:56
Speaker 1: Brown Jordan Sparks to change the How could I be
21:02
Speaker 1: homeless living in my car? So there was no way
21:07
Speaker 1: that I could not put myself out there like that.
21:11
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until you also don't know who you
21:14
Speaker 1: can trust right right, and who was going to use
21:18
Speaker 1: that as ammunition against me? Absolutely, So it wasn't until
21:24
Speaker 1: I would say, two thousand and thirteen. So I was
21:28
Speaker 1: like some years later. I remember I was talking to
21:31
Speaker 1: this lady and she was like a spiritual advisor and
21:35
Speaker 1: she um. She said. She was like, why why do
21:40
Speaker 1: you call yourself Steph? And I was like, well, Stefan
21:44
Speaker 1: is my middle name. She was like, well, why why
21:46
Speaker 1: don't you call yourself your first name. I was like, well,
21:50
Speaker 1: I didn't really like my first name, and so when
21:53
Speaker 1: I came to Los Angeles, I came to get a
21:57
Speaker 1: new start. So she was like basically, yeah, so basically
22:01
Speaker 1: you came to um run away from your past. And
22:06
Speaker 1: it just like hit me in a certain way. She
22:09
Speaker 1: was like, so, how would you think you're if you
22:12
Speaker 1: were a little kid and a little kid was living
22:14
Speaker 1: inside of you? How how would you think your inner
22:18
Speaker 1: child would would uh would react if you were to
22:23
Speaker 1: if that was your child, and you would have come
22:25
Speaker 1: home after fifteen years and not checked in. And I said, but,
22:30
Speaker 1: and then I started crying because I never thought about that.
22:35
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. And I said, if I
22:37
Speaker 1: if I treat, if I treated my inner child, which
22:40
Speaker 1: is inside of all of us, like an actual little baby.
22:44
Speaker 1: And I did not check in, so I didn't check
22:48
Speaker 1: in for years. And she said, so, write a letter
22:53
Speaker 1: from Big Steph to little Garin and tell him I apologize,
23:00
Speaker 1: I did not forget about you. And then when you're done,
23:04
Speaker 1: switch to your no, to your non dominant hand, which
23:09
Speaker 1: is gonna operate your child brain, um and your creative mind,
23:15
Speaker 1: and use your opposite hand, and write a letter from
23:18
Speaker 1: little Garin to Big Steph. When I did that, all
23:25
Speaker 1: this stuff that I had stuffed down since childhood all
23:28
Speaker 1: started coming up that I completely forgot about. And um,
23:32
Speaker 1: I had pages and tears and I was cursing, f you,
23:36
Speaker 1: you forgot about me. And then right after that happened,
23:40
Speaker 1: it was like this energetic, deep, energetic, just pressured that
23:45
Speaker 1: just leaped up out of my chest and I was like,
23:50
Speaker 1: my name is Garon Jones. And a surge of power
23:54
Speaker 1: just ran through my body when I just completely owned
23:58
Speaker 1: it because I was trying to be somebody instead of
24:01
Speaker 1: just being. And so when I said my name is
24:04
Speaker 1: Garon Jones and that is the post that you saw,
24:09
Speaker 1: that's when I went on Twitter, my Space, Instagram, Facebook,
24:16
Speaker 1: all my things completely changed my handle and then I
24:20
Speaker 1: put out a post on social media. I said, you
24:22
Speaker 1: think you know me, you have no idea. You know this, this, this,
24:25
Speaker 1: and this and this, but you don't know this, this, this, this,
24:28
Speaker 1: and this. I got about fifteen pages of emails from
24:32
Speaker 1: people saying, how did you do that? I'm going through
24:35
Speaker 1: the same thing. And that's when I realized my greatest
24:40
Speaker 1: gift was actually in my testimony. That's when I started
24:44
Speaker 1: sharing and being vulnerable and just putting myself out because
24:48
Speaker 1: nobody else would do it. So it was like, oh,
24:52
Speaker 1: I was in the league of my own because no
24:54
Speaker 1: one was willing to put it out like that. My
24:57
Speaker 1: business started from that because it was all those people
25:01
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you're getting healthy, I want to get
25:02
Speaker 1: healthy too, because they were associating whatever I was doing
25:07
Speaker 1: in the moment with what had me the strength to
25:12
Speaker 1: really put real my real authentic self out there. Okay,
25:17
Speaker 1: I have two thoughts right now for people listening this,
25:22
Speaker 1: This is what influence means, you know, Like I feel
25:25
Speaker 1: like now everybody wants to be an influencer, But what
25:29
Speaker 1: are you influencing? Where are you taking the people that
25:32
Speaker 1: are following you per se right followers? And this to
25:35
Speaker 1: me is such a prime example because you had people
25:38
Speaker 1: that followed you from Hollywood right, and then you were
25:42
Speaker 1: leading them literally probably at that time, especially not realizing
25:46
Speaker 1: it to a better version of themselves, just by you
25:48
Speaker 1: being you and shining your authentic light. Now you've opened
25:52
Speaker 1: them up to that second. I love what you shared
25:57
Speaker 1: about this inner child work because every single person listening
26:01
Speaker 1: right now, I am begging you to look into this
26:04
Speaker 1: and to really expand upon this incredible transparency that Garen
26:09
Speaker 1: just gave you. Because I myself, like I thought I
26:11
Speaker 1: had been doing the work, which I have. I don't
26:13
Speaker 1: want to say I thought I've been doing the work, um,
26:15
Speaker 1: but having my son revealed to me new layers and
26:20
Speaker 1: depth of the inner child work that I really needed
26:22
Speaker 1: to focus on that I thought I had already moved
26:25
Speaker 1: past because like my son looks identical to me, I
26:28
Speaker 1: don't share him online, but we have the exact same face.
26:31
Speaker 1: It is unreal. So when I when I would be
26:35
Speaker 1: holding him and I'd be looking down at him, I
26:37
Speaker 1: would see the most perfect, precious, worthy, valuable soul I
26:45
Speaker 1: had ever seen. Right like, as I'm looking at him,
26:47
Speaker 1: I'm just like you are whole, you are light, like
26:51
Speaker 1: you are perfectly designed. But then it was causing this
26:56
Speaker 1: inner turmoil in me that I wasn't really um It
27:00
Speaker 1: took me a while to figure out, like like there
27:02
Speaker 1: was some rigidness happening inside, because how could I feel
27:06
Speaker 1: that way about this tiny soul that looks exactly like me?
27:11
Speaker 1: But I didn't fully feel that way about baby me,
27:15
Speaker 1: about little Debbie, you know, And I didn't realize that
27:18
Speaker 1: in this moment in time, I love the hell out
27:22
Speaker 1: of myself like I love me. I accept all of
27:26
Speaker 1: me right now, and I feel so grateful, like to
27:30
Speaker 1: be this version of myself and to just exist right
27:35
Speaker 1: But what I realized was is I'm thinking grown Debbie
27:38
Speaker 1: as the ship, but I'm still looking back at little
27:41
Speaker 1: Debbie with a side I viewing her from this lens
27:44
Speaker 1: of You're not enough, you, you're neglected, you're disheveled, like
27:48
Speaker 1: I had created this narrative in my mind about what
27:51
Speaker 1: child me was that was not accurate or real, but
27:54
Speaker 1: my warped narrative that stemmed because as a kid, you
27:58
Speaker 1: don't know how to process things, and you don't have
28:00
Speaker 1: the emotional bandwidth or vocabulary. My version of looking at
28:05
Speaker 1: myself was like, she's this disheveled, unloved, unwanted, unlovable little
28:11
Speaker 1: and so it's like I was repressing her. She's a child,
28:15
Speaker 1: super resilient, amazing child. So part of my process, like
28:19
Speaker 1: I love that you shared about writing that letter and
28:22
Speaker 1: doing that kind of free form writing to yourself. For me,
28:25
Speaker 1: what I did is I went and found in my pictures,
28:28
Speaker 1: probably like what I would have previously considered as a
28:32
Speaker 1: very awkward picture of me as a young person, like
28:35
Speaker 1: a picture that I wouldn't want people to see. And
28:37
Speaker 1: then I found a beautiful frame and I put it
28:40
Speaker 1: in the frame, and I put it somewhere that I
28:42
Speaker 1: see it every day, in my closet, at on my
28:45
Speaker 1: little table that I stopped at every day, and every
28:48
Speaker 1: single day I started walking by that picture and smiling
28:52
Speaker 1: at her, talking to her like, praising her right like
28:57
Speaker 1: and just um really a appreciating her and and speaking
29:02
Speaker 1: to her with the same love I would give a
29:05
Speaker 1: three year old a child or my own son, and
29:08
Speaker 1: just over time, subconsciously and really like gently and subtly,
29:12
Speaker 1: it completely changed everything. Like I was able to really
29:17
Speaker 1: integrate what I was perceiving to be as these two
29:20
Speaker 1: versions of me and integrate them so that there is
29:23
Speaker 1: acceptance and love for every stage of who I've been,
29:27
Speaker 1: right who I am, you know. And now that's like
29:29
Speaker 1: probably my favorite picture of myself. And just maybe two
29:33
Speaker 1: years ago I would have like cringed at the side
29:35
Speaker 1: of that picture, you know, yeah, you know, it's it's
29:39
Speaker 1: it's really powerful that you said that, because a lot
29:43
Speaker 1: of times, actually all the time, the things that come
29:49
Speaker 1: up in our lives and the things that um, you know,
29:53
Speaker 1: that caused a lot of people problems and challenges and things.
29:56
Speaker 1: A lot of times they look through the surface they're like, oh,
30:00
Speaker 1: well he did this and that I keep Why does
30:02
Speaker 1: this keep happening to me? Why is the same thing
30:04
Speaker 1: keep happening? Why do I keep missing out on money?
30:07
Speaker 1: How come I can't attract my soul mate? Well? What
30:10
Speaker 1: is this? And then there's blame, but it's always on
30:12
Speaker 1: the surface level. However, if you never cleared the space
30:20
Speaker 1: from the point of the impact when it originated, it's
30:26
Speaker 1: actually been serving you and recreating in your life in
30:30
Speaker 1: many different variations and forums. That's why a lot of
30:34
Speaker 1: girls that have daddy issues end up dating a guy
30:37
Speaker 1: that's just like their daddy, or the men dating somebody
30:40
Speaker 1: that's just like their mom, or vice versa. Things like that,
30:45
Speaker 1: because they keep recreating their life over and over and
30:49
Speaker 1: over because the point of impact the thing is still there.
30:53
Speaker 1: So it's some angry little five year old girl who
30:56
Speaker 1: never got her way, who knows whose parents never knowledged her,
31:00
Speaker 1: never said I'm proud of you or anything. And then
31:04
Speaker 1: what happens is you come ten years old, fifteen years old,
31:08
Speaker 1: and you keep attracting the same exact outcome, but you
31:12
Speaker 1: look to the thing that's around, but actually what's running
31:15
Speaker 1: is a little five year old that's running the show
31:19
Speaker 1: saying I'm not worthy, I'm not enough, I'm not enough.
31:23
Speaker 1: It's never the adult because it doesn't originate in adults,
31:26
Speaker 1: just like ABC's originates at the point of when you
31:30
Speaker 1: first learned language, that is the impact ABC s. Then
31:35
Speaker 1: you learn words, paragraph sentences, essays, then books, then libraries. Well,
31:43
Speaker 1: the point of impact something that has impacted your life.
31:46
Speaker 1: You got molested, you they said you know that, no
31:49
Speaker 1: one ever told you they were proud of you. Whatever
31:52
Speaker 1: that was the point of impact. Consider those the a
31:54
Speaker 1: b cs of that particular context. And if it keeps going,
32:01
Speaker 1: it will evolve, just like abc S turns into dance
32:04
Speaker 1: and singing and all these other things. So it explodes
32:09
Speaker 1: as you're an adult. But what's actually happening is the
32:15
Speaker 1: little girl or the little boy who never they it's
32:20
Speaker 1: still running. It's like a program that you leave open
32:23
Speaker 1: on your phone that's so good, that's so powerful, and
32:28
Speaker 1: you know it too. And have you noticed, like when
32:31
Speaker 1: you kind of don't heal those spaces, you find that
32:34
Speaker 1: everything you encounter as an adult, like especially with relationships, right,
32:38
Speaker 1: Like say that same little girl you're speaking of meets
32:41
Speaker 1: an amazing man, right and she's like, oh, he's too nice.
32:44
Speaker 1: I don't like nice guys. Or is this he gotta
32:48
Speaker 1: you know what that really is is because of that trauma.
32:51
Speaker 1: Because of that, you know, um harm you're normal is dysfunction.
32:58
Speaker 1: Absolutely anything that is seemingly good or right or aligned
33:04
Speaker 1: or perfect or too nice, feel so foreign to you
33:09
Speaker 1: that you want to like withdraw and seek out something
33:12
Speaker 1: that feels more painful and go back to your comfort zone,
33:15
Speaker 1: more comfortable comfort, right, Yeah, it's I mean, it's easy
33:20
Speaker 1: to go back to what you know. It's easy. You
33:23
Speaker 1: know what's difficult is if I handed you a book
33:26
Speaker 1: on Japanese, you never spoke it before. You want to
33:28
Speaker 1: speak this new language. That's difficult. So anytime you want
33:32
Speaker 1: to integrate something new in your life, it's like learning
33:35
Speaker 1: a new language. So you must immerse yourself in that language,
33:39
Speaker 1: not like try it with Rosetta stone once a week.
33:43
Speaker 1: You've got to immerse yourself into it. Yeah. And so
33:48
Speaker 1: I mean this is a really powerful topic because I
33:53
Speaker 1: had something happened to me three years ago and I
33:57
Speaker 1: had the jaw. My jaw was infected and it was
34:01
Speaker 1: like the size of fanos from it from from Avengers.
34:04
Speaker 1: And I had to go see a specialist and I
34:07
Speaker 1: said what happened. He was like, you gotta get a
34:09
Speaker 1: root canal. I'm like, there's already a root canal here.
34:13
Speaker 1: They said, Well, whoever did their originally originally did the
34:17
Speaker 1: root canal. They never got it to the root at
34:19
Speaker 1: the route. So you've got fifteen years of infections, and
34:24
Speaker 1: so what's showing up now? You see where I'm going.
34:27
Speaker 1: So what's showing up now is because at the point
34:31
Speaker 1: of where it was supposed to be taken care of,
34:34
Speaker 1: it's still it's still rotten. So it was built on
34:38
Speaker 1: the foundation of something that's rotten. Relationships break up like that,
34:44
Speaker 1: um offices, businesses, and everything, because you could be in
34:48
Speaker 1: a relationship with a guy or a girl and be like, no,
34:51
Speaker 1: deep down inside, you don't want to be into it.
34:53
Speaker 1: You don't want to be in it. That's the foundation
34:56
Speaker 1: that you're trying to build off of. So five teen
34:58
Speaker 1: years later, boom, what happened? I don't understand. You never
35:02
Speaker 1: wanted to be in it. So in this context, if
35:09
Speaker 1: there's all these problems that keep happening in your life,
35:12
Speaker 1: don't look at the surface, look at the root. Cause
35:16
Speaker 1: when you look at them, because I had to pay
35:19
Speaker 1: ten times more, they cut half my jaw open to
35:23
Speaker 1: do something that could have easily been taken care of
35:26
Speaker 1: if it was done the right way at the point
35:28
Speaker 1: of impact. To begin with, MHM, Listen, I've learned the
35:36
Speaker 1: hard way through physical pain and experiences and this is
35:40
Speaker 1: how I've gained the knowledge to all of this, this
35:44
Speaker 1: wisdom that is supporting me in my in my and
35:46
Speaker 1: my change. Yeah. Can we can we go back a
35:50
Speaker 1: little bit because I want to talk about getting from
35:54
Speaker 1: Steph Jones to Garen Jones, getting from the jeep and
35:58
Speaker 1: the storage unit six d three countries globally speaking, becoming
36:06
Speaker 1: you know, really attracting so much affluence into your life.
36:10
Speaker 1: Where did that come in? So here, I am lowest
36:13
Speaker 1: point of my life. Girlfriend had just broken up with me,
36:17
Speaker 1: daughter pretty much disowned me. Um, my mom was dying
36:22
Speaker 1: in the hospital. Everybody in my family was unhealthy, living
36:26
Speaker 1: in my car for two and a half years, and
36:29
Speaker 1: I was two d thousand dollars in debt. Oh no,
36:32
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I tried to kill myself twice and
36:34
Speaker 1: I failed at that. So here I am. And this
36:38
Speaker 1: was around the same time. Um, we were hanging out
36:42
Speaker 1: and so I'm at I'm on the corner of Librea
36:45
Speaker 1: and sunset Um at the at the I used to
36:49
Speaker 1: park my car in the frozen yogurt, that little lot,
36:51
Speaker 1: the mail and more lot, and I remembered that one
36:58
Speaker 1: day it was like raining August two thousand and eleven
37:01
Speaker 1: window was busted out because the day before somebody broke
37:05
Speaker 1: into my car stole everything that I had, and I
37:09
Speaker 1: was just like, man, can it get any worse? And
37:12
Speaker 1: it kept getting worse, but then I finally stopped saying
37:15
Speaker 1: that I yelled in that moment, I had it. It
37:20
Speaker 1: was my spiritual awakening and I just cried out at
37:24
Speaker 1: peak state, and I was like, Okay, I'm tired of fighting.
37:29
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight anymore. I want to be healthy,
37:33
Speaker 1: I wanna be happy. I wanna be surrounded by nothing
37:37
Speaker 1: but positive people. I just want to inspire people. And
37:40
Speaker 1: I want to make a bunch of money, but I
37:42
Speaker 1: want the money to represent something that I passionately believe
37:46
Speaker 1: in that I would do for free. Just show me
37:48
Speaker 1: a sign, Show me a sign, Show me a sign.
37:52
Speaker 1: And it was silence, but I was like cursing and crying.
37:56
Speaker 1: It was crazy. I had never been at that. I
38:02
Speaker 1: was like there was something coming out of me. A
38:05
Speaker 1: week later, I'm at the gas station with my last
38:07
Speaker 1: two dollars and then a homeless guy quote unquote comes
38:12
Speaker 1: up to me and asked me for money, and I said,
38:14
Speaker 1: and I was I was doing an independent film that
38:16
Speaker 1: that wasn't paying me anything because doing an independent film
38:19
Speaker 1: in Inglewood, and I went to the gas station with
38:21
Speaker 1: my last two dollars. Homeless guy walks up to me.
38:24
Speaker 1: He says, do you have any money? I said, you
38:26
Speaker 1: have more money than me, and he goes, change your mindset,
38:30
Speaker 1: change your life. And right there it was like I
38:34
Speaker 1: had a conscious interrupt and everything. It was like my
38:37
Speaker 1: whole entire life was a lie because in that moment,
38:41
Speaker 1: those words, it weren't his words, it was backed by
38:44
Speaker 1: something that just like vibrated through my whole body. Change
38:48
Speaker 1: your mindset, change your life. Because he had walked off,
38:51
Speaker 1: but I kept saying the words change your mindset, change
38:54
Speaker 1: your life, change your mindset. So if my mind is
38:57
Speaker 1: set on something, then that's why the result, this is
39:00
Speaker 1: what it is. So if I do different with the
39:03
Speaker 1: same circumstance, my life will change. So from there I
39:09
Speaker 1: just kept playing with the word. I would get to escalators,
39:12
Speaker 1: change your mindset, change your life. I would walk the stairs.
39:15
Speaker 1: I would normally do jail, so change your change your mindset,
39:19
Speaker 1: change your life. So I would do bar so normally
39:21
Speaker 1: I would wake up at eleven a m. Change your mindset,
39:24
Speaker 1: change your life, I'll wake up at seven am. I'll
39:27
Speaker 1: start waking up early. I was normally unhealthy. Change your mindset,
39:31
Speaker 1: change your life. I made a conscious decision to get healthy,
39:34
Speaker 1: and that's when the health I started meeting all these
39:37
Speaker 1: people that were introducing me to opportunity to become healthy.
39:41
Speaker 1: And so it's been eight years of me creating new
39:46
Speaker 1: neural pathways in my brain without me even knowing what
39:50
Speaker 1: I was doing, simply because I was doing the opposite
39:54
Speaker 1: that I would normally do in areas of my life
39:56
Speaker 1: that I wasn't happy. But I had built up the
39:59
Speaker 1: momentum because it was easy for me to do the
40:02
Speaker 1: opposite and something like doing the stairs, but the object
40:06
Speaker 1: in motion stays in motion, so I just kept doing it.
40:09
Speaker 1: So when it came to something really big, I was
40:12
Speaker 1: already in momentum of simply doing the opposite. So I'm
40:16
Speaker 1: eight years removed from somebody who was trying to kill himself.
40:21
Speaker 1: Now I'm breathing life into the world because I'm doing
40:25
Speaker 1: the opposite. Reading books is the opposite. Um, going to
40:28
Speaker 1: seminars is the opposite. Being a part of the health
40:30
Speaker 1: community was the opposite. Cutting my hair at the time
40:33
Speaker 1: was the opposite. Growing my hair was the opposite. Learning
40:36
Speaker 1: from people studying gurus and and and and uh, not
40:41
Speaker 1: watching TV, not scrolling. All of that was a part
40:44
Speaker 1: of the opposite. Going from two dollars in debt to
40:49
Speaker 1: slightly under um double figures uh in the two Comic
40:55
Speaker 1: Club uh, and in my net worth per year as
41:00
Speaker 1: a black man in America who couldn't even pay childs
41:04
Speaker 1: before eight years ago. They featured me in Forbes last
41:07
Speaker 1: month and Entrepreneur last week. Wow, do you all understand
41:17
Speaker 1: that this is so much free game? And if you
41:20
Speaker 1: didn't have your pen for this episode, I need you
41:24
Speaker 1: to press pause right now. Go grab one that is
41:29
Speaker 1: so powerful. That's so powerful, That's how it started. How
41:34
Speaker 1: beautiful is it too that to just take a moment
41:36
Speaker 1: and understand that like truth and revelation can come through
41:40
Speaker 1: any sources. To keep your eyes open, your ears open,
41:45
Speaker 1: and your judgment completely down. Because this man asking you
41:50
Speaker 1: for money at a gas station gave you your breakthrough,
41:54
Speaker 1: and he was just as worthy of giving a breakthrough
41:57
Speaker 1: as if it had been a multibillionaire whop you on
42:00
Speaker 1: the street with a bit of advice. Wow, absolutely take
42:05
Speaker 1: me through the building of your current life and business
42:09
Speaker 1: because it went from that moment in the gas station
42:11
Speaker 1: to now you being where you are. And I think
42:14
Speaker 1: it's so important for people to know, especially like for
42:16
Speaker 1: people that are looking for radical change and shifts in
42:19
Speaker 1: their life. And there's a certain amount of people that
42:21
Speaker 1: probably listen to this podcast that really want to dive
42:24
Speaker 1: into the entrepreneurial space and build something of purpose, Like
42:29
Speaker 1: how do you because I remember it started with Herbal Life.
42:34
Speaker 1: It started with because I had I had like bought
42:37
Speaker 1: one of your first packages. Come on, let's get me
42:39
Speaker 1: right and tight um, and it started with that. And
42:42
Speaker 1: so how because it's what I think is so special too,
42:46
Speaker 1: is like probably when you started selling Herban Life, you
42:51
Speaker 1: didn't you couldn't even conceive that that would eventually with
42:56
Speaker 1: other work leads you to dropping this book leads you
42:59
Speaker 1: to being honest stage in some in some countries, some
43:03
Speaker 1: foreign land, you know. So it's like also that commitment
43:07
Speaker 1: to the marathon to stay in the course of just
43:10
Speaker 1: forward movement, even if you don't have the perfect vision
43:14
Speaker 1: board of like this is where I want to be. Yeah,
43:18
Speaker 1: you know, I always knew that I was supposed to
43:23
Speaker 1: be on stages. I didn't know how so whether it
43:27
Speaker 1: was music, whatever, I just always knew. I always saw
43:30
Speaker 1: a crowd of people. And when I made that cry
43:39
Speaker 1: in the car, I want to make a difference in
43:42
Speaker 1: the world. I didn't put a boundary on what platform
43:46
Speaker 1: it was, so it didn't matter. Some people put boundaries
43:49
Speaker 1: on why I don't I want to do this, but
43:50
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it like that, you don't
43:52
Speaker 1: know what God gonna bring to you. So I was
43:55
Speaker 1: actually open to all boundaries. And because I was open
44:01
Speaker 1: to all boundaries, my blessings didn't have a boundary, because
44:06
Speaker 1: how you do anything is how you do everything. And
44:10
Speaker 1: but see, at this time, I wasn't aware. So just
44:13
Speaker 1: by not being aware but open, all the possibilities led
44:19
Speaker 1: me to something else. Because here's the thing, here's how
44:22
Speaker 1: it works. When you have a big vision and you
44:25
Speaker 1: can clearly state where you're going, anything that comes is
44:29
Speaker 1: a part of your journey. But if you don't, then
44:32
Speaker 1: you're subject to everything else. But because I had the
44:36
Speaker 1: big vision, the breakup was a part of the journey
44:40
Speaker 1: because I had to learn a certain lesson that was
44:42
Speaker 1: gonna grow my heart in a certain way. And then
44:45
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a matter of Starbucks and I'm
44:47
Speaker 1: meeting this person right here who led me to this person,
44:50
Speaker 1: who led me to this person who led me to this,
44:53
Speaker 1: and oh my god, I came. But I should have
44:54
Speaker 1: never said yes to this, But then I said yes
44:57
Speaker 1: to this, and on the way leave being I meet
45:01
Speaker 1: this person and I'm like, damn, if I wasn't at
45:04
Speaker 1: this place, then I wouldn't have met this person. And
45:06
Speaker 1: then the cookie trails just led to this to this
45:09
Speaker 1: to this, and then when I connect the dots looking backwards,
45:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, this was all part of the journey that
45:20
Speaker 1: was connected to my vision. The thing about it, they
45:24
Speaker 1: don't put first graders in fifth grade because you gotta
45:27
Speaker 1: pass a series of tests to comprehend that you understand
45:31
Speaker 1: the grade that you're in right now. And so I
45:34
Speaker 1: had to pass all these things. The universe, the only
45:38
Speaker 1: way that it can test you is through things that's
45:41
Speaker 1: connected to your heart. That's the only way to get
45:43
Speaker 1: your attention because if it's if if it ain't connected
45:47
Speaker 1: to your heart, you're cool on it. So it will
45:49
Speaker 1: use your mama, your kids, your husband, and your family.
45:53
Speaker 1: It'll use everybody that it can. But when you stay
45:57
Speaker 1: connected and locked, once you go one step past that
46:01
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody starts falling right back in alignment.
46:04
Speaker 1: That happened with my daughter, that happened with my fiance,
46:07
Speaker 1: that happened with my mom, my brother, my aunt. But
46:09
Speaker 1: I stayed. And because I stayed, what comes from the
46:14
Speaker 1: heart goes into the heart. Let's just pretend that my
46:18
Speaker 1: vision is the big heart. It's the Pacific Ocean. I
46:25
Speaker 1: am the river that's connected to the Pacific Ocean. I
46:28
Speaker 1: just gotta stay connected to that and everything else that
46:35
Speaker 1: was along that. It was there to test me to
46:38
Speaker 1: see if what I wanted is what I really wanted.
46:41
Speaker 1: And when I look back, I'm like, oh, that's why
46:44
Speaker 1: that happened. That's why that happened. That's why that happened.
46:47
Speaker 1: So all of that the last eight years was shaping
46:53
Speaker 1: me and molding me to be the kind of person
46:57
Speaker 1: that can talk to uds, crips, strippers, people who have
47:02
Speaker 1: been shot people, I mean, people who have been through
47:05
Speaker 1: the wringer because they ain't gonna listen to somebody they
47:09
Speaker 1: can't relate to. And I'm like, oh, when I was
47:13
Speaker 1: a little kid, I said I wanted to be a superhero.
47:17
Speaker 1: Name one superhero that didn't have traumatic things that they
47:20
Speaker 1: went through to gain their superhero powers. So it makes
47:25
Speaker 1: sense why the bigger the message, the bigger the audience,
47:30
Speaker 1: the bigger the platform. Why I'm used to go all
47:34
Speaker 1: over the world to speak one message of freedom and
47:39
Speaker 1: no matter the religion, the gender, all these different things,
47:43
Speaker 1: everybody can relate. But if I hadn't have gone through
47:46
Speaker 1: all those it would be no possible way that I
47:51
Speaker 1: could hold a candle to the life that I'm living
47:54
Speaker 1: right now, because I'm operating at the capacity of somebody
47:58
Speaker 1: that can hold that space. I had to grow through
48:01
Speaker 1: all those tests first, Yeah, yeah, God, you know what.
48:08
Speaker 1: And something I say all the time to people is like,
48:10
Speaker 1: don't hoard your testimony, like your story is meant to
48:14
Speaker 1: be shared. Absolutely, And it's like that old saying of
48:17
Speaker 1: like the truth self shut, the truth shall set you free.
48:21
Speaker 1: It's like standing in your truth will set you free
48:25
Speaker 1: from whatever you're facing. Also take you to hype. So
48:29
Speaker 1: you couldn't even fathom, couldn't even fathom, couldn't even fathom.
48:33
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I never I never could have imagined. However,
48:38
Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world because it
48:40
Speaker 1: was connected to my vision. When I'm like I'm locked.
48:45
Speaker 1: So it makes sense. When I was just like, oh,
48:48
Speaker 1: you book this, Oh this happened, this is coming, you
48:52
Speaker 1: met this person, you went here, this is happening. It's like, oh,
48:56
Speaker 1: this is really cool. People like yo, who is your agent?
49:01
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, my agent. I paid the price. You're
49:07
Speaker 1: gonna be rewarded for the price you paid. If you're
49:12
Speaker 1: an alignment with something that is true and pure, your
49:18
Speaker 1: intention is clear as connected to people, there's no greed,
49:21
Speaker 1: no ego. Whatever price you paid in the past, trust
49:27
Speaker 1: me you that was an investment. You didn't pay a
49:31
Speaker 1: price that was an investment, and you will get a
49:33
Speaker 1: return that's ten times more. Yeah. Yeah, God. And it's
49:40
Speaker 1: too It's like when people and I think social media
49:41
Speaker 1: has really created this space, but when people chase success
49:45
Speaker 1: out of ego, it will always elude you. You know,
49:49
Speaker 1: it will never feel like whatever your expectation of how
49:52
Speaker 1: it should look or feel will be. That was exactly
49:57
Speaker 1: my story when I was in the music industry. I
49:59
Speaker 1: want to I wanted to be famous so bad, and
50:04
Speaker 1: I will look into the mirror and I would see nothing.
50:08
Speaker 1: And then when I just started transforming, and I was like,
50:14
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't actually care to be famous.
50:19
Speaker 1: I really don't. I just want to help people. I
50:21
Speaker 1: just want to make a difference in people's lives. I
50:23
Speaker 1: want to live life in such a way so that
50:26
Speaker 1: people can see what true freedom is like, so that
50:30
Speaker 1: they can utilize their own God given talent and produce
50:35
Speaker 1: extraordinary results in their life. Give me any platform to
50:38
Speaker 1: create that, whether it be a book, whether it be
50:42
Speaker 1: health and nutrition, whether it be you know, whether it
50:44
Speaker 1: be an invention. You give me any platform, and it's
50:47
Speaker 1: connected to that. Yes. And because I'm so clear, they
50:56
Speaker 1: come in super clear. It's just matching the way I
51:00
Speaker 1: see it. I'm not looking through I think I'm trying to.
51:04
Speaker 1: I am locked. I'm locked in and I'm clear, And
51:07
Speaker 1: so it's just it's matching me. It's all matching me. Wow. Wow,
51:19
Speaker 1: How does it feel in this moment to be this
51:22
Speaker 1: version of yourself? Like how when you're feeling the most
51:25
Speaker 1: present and the most aligned, what comes through for you?
51:28
Speaker 1: You know? It's just absolute peace and joy. And I
51:31
Speaker 1: you know, I had a misconstrued um version of what
51:35
Speaker 1: I thought success was. Like, my new success, my new
51:39
Speaker 1: luxury is peace of mind. It's like when when I
51:42
Speaker 1: go to sleep at night and all the lights are down.
51:48
Speaker 1: It's like peaceful and it's calm, and I'm like genuinely
51:53
Speaker 1: proud of myself. So but it I've become accustomed to it.
52:00
Speaker 1: So you put a boiling if you put a frog
52:02
Speaker 1: in boiling water, it's going to explode because it wasn't
52:05
Speaker 1: accustomed to it. But if you put a frog in
52:08
Speaker 1: lukewarm water and then you gradually raise the temperature once
52:12
Speaker 1: it gets to boiling, it's already adjusted to the environment.
52:16
Speaker 1: So I adjusted to the evolution of garin. So right now,
52:21
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm very peaceful. I'm forty years old, look
52:25
Speaker 1: twenty five. You know. The fountain of youth is getting
52:29
Speaker 1: rid of all of your resentments, being able to forgive
52:32
Speaker 1: and doing the stuff that you absolutely love, and you
52:35
Speaker 1: will be Your life will be restored because age don't
52:38
Speaker 1: make you old. It's when you let your life beat
52:40
Speaker 1: you down your spirit, your spirit starts to sag and
52:43
Speaker 1: it can't hold that weight. I learned this from somebody
52:47
Speaker 1: who's a hundred and six years old. That was my
52:49
Speaker 1: old neighbor. I hope that I hope that if you're
52:58
Speaker 1: listening to this show right now, what you're really taking
53:01
Speaker 1: away is a new openness of yourself, a new level
53:05
Speaker 1: of surrender because like what you share, like that dark
53:08
Speaker 1: knight of the soul that you experienced with screaming out
53:12
Speaker 1: and just being open like that. People ask me all
53:16
Speaker 1: the time, like, well, what's like a life hack? You know?
53:19
Speaker 1: I get d m so constantly by people saying, well,
53:21
Speaker 1: just tell me, like something I can do right now
53:23
Speaker 1: so that I can completely change my life. And I'm like, what,
53:27
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that. Um, there's no like, there's
53:30
Speaker 1: no shortcuts in the way that you're envisioning a shortcut.
53:34
Speaker 1: But I do believe that not all transformation has to
53:36
Speaker 1: come through pain. But you have to be open. You
53:41
Speaker 1: have to be open. You have to reach a point
53:44
Speaker 1: where you are choosing to be honest with yourself the
53:48
Speaker 1: perceived good and bad of whatever that entails, and you
53:53
Speaker 1: choose openness that whatever comes through, I'm ready to receive.
53:59
Speaker 1: I gotta do is look at your hands and ball
54:03
Speaker 1: your fists up. Came nothing come in there. But when
54:07
Speaker 1: you open your hands, you can actually you can put
54:10
Speaker 1: money there, you can put fruit, um, you can hold
54:14
Speaker 1: a baby, like there's so many different things that you
54:16
Speaker 1: can do. But I'm gonna you can hold gratitude absolutely
54:21
Speaker 1: to fists full of perspective, new perspective. There's two things
54:26
Speaker 1: that I know that you can do. It ain't gonna,
54:30
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change your life like that. However, it
54:33
Speaker 1: can create an opening and it will plant a seed
54:36
Speaker 1: that will start you on your journey. Here's one of them.
54:40
Speaker 1: Whatever your dominant hand is, for thirty days, use your
54:48
Speaker 1: non dominant hand to eat, to brush your teeth, to
54:53
Speaker 1: do your hair, to wipe your butt when you when
54:56
Speaker 1: you're using the restroom. And I'm not even joking, sleep
54:59
Speaker 1: on the other eye of the bed. And if you
55:05
Speaker 1: do that for thirty days, because it's something you've never
55:08
Speaker 1: done before, and because it's something you've never done before,
55:11
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a difficult time to do it. And
55:13
Speaker 1: because it'll, yeah, it'll be so difficult. However, it's gonna
55:17
Speaker 1: operate a part of your brain that you don't use.
55:20
Speaker 1: And because it operates a part of your brain that
55:22
Speaker 1: you don't use, you're gonna have to forced to be stimulated. Well,
55:28
Speaker 1: when you're stimulated, you're you're using a capacity. It's just
55:34
Speaker 1: like when cell phones get new features, people like, oh
55:37
Speaker 1: my god, imagine if iPhone one went to iPhone two
55:40
Speaker 1: and they didn't change nothing. Well, as humans, if you
55:44
Speaker 1: don't change anything, you had no new features to your attitude,
55:49
Speaker 1: it's the same, the same, the same. And say you're
55:51
Speaker 1: serving up people no new upgrades, nothing, Well, just like
55:55
Speaker 1: a phone, if the users ain't gonna come back because
55:58
Speaker 1: they're not getting the new features, well guess what your
56:03
Speaker 1: life and all this new stuff, it's not gonna come
56:07
Speaker 1: in because you're serving up old stuff. Just like a
56:10
Speaker 1: MOULDI person just sitting there doing the same thing over
56:13
Speaker 1: and over and over. So due to opposite of everything
56:16
Speaker 1: that you would normally do, use your opposite hand. Do
56:19
Speaker 1: that for thirty days, you will notice a drastic change.
56:22
Speaker 1: Here's another thing. So I had a conversation with this
56:26
Speaker 1: girl a month ago and she she had money, she
56:31
Speaker 1: had the relationship, she had cars, she had the job.
56:36
Speaker 1: And she said, I feel like I'm missing something and
56:40
Speaker 1: she was sad, and I said, what what did you
56:44
Speaker 1: love when you were a child. And this is the
56:47
Speaker 1: biggest hack ever. Why Because the heart is one of
56:51
Speaker 1: the most powerful frequencies in the world. Most people don't
56:55
Speaker 1: even use it. She said, I used to love the
56:58
Speaker 1: play the piano was the last time you played the
57:01
Speaker 1: piano twenty years ago? When you used to play the
57:04
Speaker 1: piano when you were a child, how did you feel? Oh?
57:08
Speaker 1: It made it used to make me feel so free
57:10
Speaker 1: and so loving and uh so joyous everything. What do
57:15
Speaker 1: you do in your life right now that you absolutely
57:18
Speaker 1: love that makes you so free and so joyous? Nothing?
57:21
Speaker 1: I do what everybody else tells me that I should do. Okay,
57:27
Speaker 1: So I said, do you have any kids? She was like,
57:31
Speaker 1: I have to. I said, imagine your daughter coming up
57:34
Speaker 1: to your leg and saying mom, mom, Mom, Mom, Mom,
57:38
Speaker 1: mom mom, and you're ignoring her for twenty years. What
57:41
Speaker 1: do you think the relationship would be like? She said,
57:43
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be one. She wouldn't trust me. I said, well,
57:47
Speaker 1: the thing that you loved as a child, let's just
57:50
Speaker 1: say it's connected to your inner inner child, which is
57:52
Speaker 1: connected to your spiritual umbilical cord to heaven source energy.
57:57
Speaker 1: Let's just say that's been She's been trying to get
58:00
Speaker 1: your intention for twenty years, and you've been ignoring her
58:03
Speaker 1: for twenty years. So what do you think the relationship
58:06
Speaker 1: to your soul and the physical is like your soul
58:09
Speaker 1: meaning meaning your inner child not there, like something is missing.
58:14
Speaker 1: I said, Bingo, go back and actually nurture your child
58:19
Speaker 1: and give it energy until you love her, and then
58:23
Speaker 1: start playing the piano to three times a week. So
58:26
Speaker 1: she starts playing the piano to three times a week.
58:30
Speaker 1: And I see her a year later, and she had
58:35
Speaker 1: aged backwards. All of her ailments were gone, and she said,
58:41
Speaker 1: I started attracting things that never attract I'm like, yeah,
58:45
Speaker 1: because you're using your heart. You're coming from your heart,
58:50
Speaker 1: not from money, not from business that's outside. You use
58:54
Speaker 1: what's inside. Overflow that and let people benefit from the
59:00
Speaker 1: overflow that you first give to yourself, not the other
59:03
Speaker 1: way around. So whatever it is out there, everybody, remember
59:08
Speaker 1: what you love this little kid, go and do it
59:12
Speaker 1: and feel what it feels like. Don't try to make
59:14
Speaker 1: sense of it. You couldn't make sense of abc S. However,
59:18
Speaker 1: you showed up for class and all of a sudden
59:19
Speaker 1: language happened. This is something that you can use that
59:25
Speaker 1: will increase your happiness, that will just have you truly
59:30
Speaker 1: be in your heart, and you can take that and
59:32
Speaker 1: put it and transferred to anything that you want to
59:34
Speaker 1: do in life. You'll feel a thousand times better. I
59:39
Speaker 1: love that. Before we wrap up, if you would give
59:42
Speaker 1: me three books that you think the audience should tap into.
59:46
Speaker 1: The Power of Positive Thinking by Dr Norman Vincent Peel.
59:49
Speaker 1: I've read it three seven times between the paperback and audiobook.
59:54
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that again. The Power of Positive Thinking
59:59
Speaker 1: by Dr Norman Vincent Peel. That's one of them, Okay.
1:00:06
Speaker 1: The other one is The Power by Rhonda Byron's. She's
1:00:11
Speaker 1: the one who did um uh, she did The Secret,
1:00:15
Speaker 1: but her next book was The Power. It's all about
1:00:17
Speaker 1: generosity and gratitude and love. I've listened to it over
1:00:23
Speaker 1: and over and over. Next book, Change Your Mindset, Change
1:00:27
Speaker 1: Your Life by Garon Jones, out in November, and it's
1:00:30
Speaker 1: all of these things that I'm sharing. We'll all be
1:00:33
Speaker 1: in the book, but it'll just show you all the
1:00:35
Speaker 1: lessons how you can apply it to your life, all
1:00:38
Speaker 1: the things that I went through. It's gonna be really, really,
1:00:41
Speaker 1: really awesome. And I can't wait to hear all of
1:00:43
Speaker 1: y'all's feed forward, not feedback, but feed forward when y'all
1:00:48
Speaker 1: get that book and post the quotables online and can
1:00:51
Speaker 1: people connect with you through your social media to get
1:00:54
Speaker 1: like to find out about like signing events or absolutely
1:00:57
Speaker 1: well my website. My website is Gary and Jones dot com.
1:01:02
Speaker 1: Uh g A R r Ai N Jones dot com. Um,
1:01:07
Speaker 1: my Instagram, Garon dot Jones, Facebook, Garon Jones. I mean,
1:01:12
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of stuff and all of
1:01:14
Speaker 1: this everyon. I'm gonna tag all of this on my
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Speaker 1: Instagram post for this episode. You guys can see it
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Speaker 1: on my page two and just click through if that'll
1:01:22
Speaker 1: be easier to to remember. I'm gonna I'm gonna close out.
1:01:25
Speaker 1: I love your your bio in your Instagram the modern
1:01:29
Speaker 1: day superhero guiding people to achieving whole life success, and
1:01:34
Speaker 1: that is exactly who you are in this moment. I'm
1:01:40
Speaker 1: just I'm so um deeply happy for you in this
1:01:47
Speaker 1: beautiful life that not only life that you've created, but
1:01:50
Speaker 1: the life that you are actively sharing with us. And
1:01:53
Speaker 1: I thank you and I just love you and I
1:01:58
Speaker 1: love you too, and thank you so much. It's, uh,
1:02:00
Speaker 1: it's people like you that because you you, you've always
1:02:04
Speaker 1: supported and you supported a lot of people's people like
1:02:07
Speaker 1: you that create platforms that give stories like mine wings
1:02:11
Speaker 1: to fly. And uh, you know, I know that there's
1:02:15
Speaker 1: gonna be some people out there to be like you
1:02:18
Speaker 1: know what, me too. I get to do something different
1:02:23
Speaker 1: with my time, effort, and energy. So thank you. Yeah,
1:02:29
Speaker 1: I'm grateful you exist. Thank you for joining the show.
1:02:31
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I would definitely be at the
1:02:33
Speaker 1: book event and buying things. Congrats on your beautiful union
1:02:38
Speaker 1: with your queen. Thank you so much. I'm so excited.
1:02:43
Speaker 1: I used to be so afraid to get in a relationships.
1:02:46
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get on locked down until I realized, No,
1:02:49
Speaker 1: when you find the right one, you're amplifying up and
1:02:53
Speaker 1: then we're not two halves, we're two holes. Two holes
1:02:57
Speaker 1: create infinity to havels make a zero. So she's whole,
1:03:00
Speaker 1: I'm whole, and we just amplify up all that and she's,
1:03:04
Speaker 1: if not more powerful than me, we just just keep
1:03:08
Speaker 1: leveling each other up. I love that we're gonna have
1:03:11
Speaker 1: to do a part two too, because I would love
1:03:13
Speaker 1: to do an episode with you where we specifically talk
1:03:16
Speaker 1: about love, manhood, and fatherhood. So many phenomenal gems and
1:03:24
Speaker 1: stories in both of those spaces as well. Yeah, yeah,
1:03:28
Speaker 1: so we're gonna be doing this again. Yeah, let's do it.
1:03:31
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. Catch you next time. Big
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