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Britney's New BF, Drew Barrymore, Sandoval Blocked with Guy Branum · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather McDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 2: Woof, woof. Hannah McDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have return guest, supermodel, beautiful, tan,
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  Speaker 2: very tan and glowing, Guy Branum. Welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: Hello. Good to be here. This is my summer of
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  Speaker 3: vitamin D. Most fat people are low in vitamin D,
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  Speaker 3: and so I've been– Like my political and self-care action
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  Speaker 3: for the summer has been getting sun.
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  Speaker 2: Good. Why not?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know what? How many more years do
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  Speaker 2: we have left on this earth for everyone?
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  Speaker 3: It's so true.
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  Speaker 2: So why not enjoy the sun?
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  Speaker 3: No. I mean, we are all Carol Radziwill with five
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  Speaker 3: good summers left.
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  Speaker 2: We really are. I'm not going to advocate a tanning bed.
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  Speaker 2: That is a time that I never want to come
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  Speaker 2: back in my life. But definitely go sit in the sun.
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  Speaker 2: Put on some sunscreen, but go sit in the sun.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. The YouTuber who I have let run my life,
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  Speaker 3: there's a man who has like health YouTube things and
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  Speaker 3: he's very hot and I just do whatever he says.
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  Speaker 3: But he insists that you will not get sunburns. Like
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  Speaker 3: the bro science thing now is you will not get
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  Speaker 3: sunburns if you don't consume seed oils. So seed oil.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing I've noticed is that younger kids, um,
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  Speaker 2: like teenagers and stuff will be, will be like, Oh, the, um,
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  Speaker 2: ozone index is an eight today. So you'll be able
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  Speaker 2: to get tan. Like they want to get tan. And
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  Speaker 2: I go, I don't even know what you're, is that
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing? And they're like, no, it means the
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  Speaker 2: sun's really strong. So we're going to get tan today.
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  Speaker 2: And they all like follow that. And they have like
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  Speaker 2: some app that, I mean, it's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: I am scared that I'm just going to be full
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  Speaker 3: of skin cancer because But I go to a dermatologist
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. Again, sunscreen people wear a hat.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Let's talk about the VMAs. They were on last
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  Speaker 2: night on MTV. And people were very excited about a
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  Speaker 2: few things. NSYNC, including Justin Timberlake, finally came, danced with
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  Speaker 2: Lance Bass and everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: But they all wore full-color suits except for Justin. Even
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  Speaker 3: in this moment, he needs to be... Why can't he
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  Speaker 3: be gracious? Why can't he just be one of the
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  Speaker 3: boys again?
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  Speaker 2: Good point. Good point. But I loved it. I loved
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  Speaker 2: it for my friend Lance Bass. And I think they
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  Speaker 2: all looked great. And Taylor Swift is the most enthusiastic
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  Speaker 2: audience member that's also a star that has ever lived.
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  Speaker 3: I always feel a little bit like it just wears
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  Speaker 3: on me a little bit that she needs to be gracious.
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  Speaker 3: She knows how tall and thin and blonde she is.
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  Speaker 3: And she knows that everyone's ready to say... You have
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  Speaker 3: it too easy.
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  Speaker 2: And so successful.
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  Speaker 3: And so how much she's present for other people makes
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  Speaker 3: me uncomfortable and it makes me want for her to
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  Speaker 3: just have something for herself. The way that when Gwyneth Paltrow,
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  Speaker 3: do we talk about how we're okay with Gwyneth Paltrow
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  Speaker 3: now because she's over 50 and thus we can classify
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  Speaker 3: her as a witch?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I didn't know that you did that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't know that you started this movement.
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  Speaker 3: So we like, for 10 years, we were like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: she's so full of herself. She's so uppity. And then
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  Speaker 3: at the trial, we were just like, fabulous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, right, the trial of where she won about, wait,
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  Speaker 2: what was the trial about?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, she like knocked into that man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, the ski trial. I loved her during the
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  Speaker 2: ski trial. Also being someone who's a skier and a
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  Speaker 2: bad skier, I don't want to be sued.
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  Speaker 3: I loved her during the ski trial too, but I
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  Speaker 3: just love that we were able to be like, She's
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  Speaker 3: a diva. She exists on her own terms. And I
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  Speaker 3: really think as somebody around her age that it is
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  Speaker 3: because she achieved a different point in her life when
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  Speaker 3: we're not demanding relatability out of her.
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  Speaker 2: Good point.
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  Speaker 3: I just hate that we do that to Taylor Swift,
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  Speaker 3: but also she keeps making good music and it's doing fine,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you about Gwyneth. Because we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: Gwyneth and we've talked about Jessica Alba, though I do
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  Speaker 2: think Gwyneth is a more obviously established actress and has
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  Speaker 2: the chops. Do you think she'll ever get back into
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  Speaker 2: acting or she just makes so much money on goop
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  Speaker 2: she does not want to bother sitting in a trailer
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  Speaker 2: by herself?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to see her take the risk because
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  Speaker 3: there's the thing when people have enough established success around them,
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  Speaker 3: there's no incentive to take risks. And, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think it could very easily be her coming back for
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  Speaker 3: one thing, it not being a hit out of the
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  Speaker 3: park and her being like, never again. But it's, things
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  Speaker 3: make me so happy. Cher in the 80s being like,
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  Speaker 3: I have things very established, but I'm going to go
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  Speaker 3: out on a limb and, you know, act and try
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  Speaker 3: real hard and then having real success at it makes
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  Speaker 3: me so happy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so when Cher broke out in the 80s and
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  Speaker 2: it was such a big deal that she was over
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  Speaker 2: 40 and wearing a G-string and nylons that showed her
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  Speaker 2: ass tattoo. And I just remember she had a commercial
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  Speaker 2: about something And she's like, here's three women in their
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  Speaker 2: 40s dancing in the rain. And it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God, I can't believe a 40-year-old is dancing in
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  Speaker 2: the rain. I really think that she did change it
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of people that, like, 40's not old,
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  Speaker 2: 50's not old, 80's not old. So I love that.
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  Speaker 2: But I will say about Gwyneth, I love the movies
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  Speaker 2: that she's been in. I love Talented Mr. Ripley. I
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  Speaker 2: loved– Um, my, um, A Perfect Murder.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I talk about that one a lot. I love,
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  Speaker 2: I like watching her. I like her acting. I would
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  Speaker 2: love to see her in something, you know, Netflix eight
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  Speaker 2: episode series, juicy, like the one that, um, like the
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  Speaker 2: one about, um, um, The one with... Big Little Lies?
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  Speaker 2: Big Little Lies. Like a Big Little Lies kind of
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  Speaker 2: a thing. I'm sure there's a book out there that
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  Speaker 2: Reese Witherspoon hasn't realized yet. So if you're working for Reese,
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  Speaker 2: go find that book, give it to Reese, let her
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  Speaker 2: produce it, have Gwyneth Paltrow star, let it be a
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  Speaker 2: rich person story. Yeah. We don't need to see her
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  Speaker 2: being anything but a rich person in cashmere pajamas.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And a beautiful home, gorgeous aesthetic, and some... Infidelity, murder,
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  Speaker 2: and a twist happens among eight episodes that I can
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  Speaker 2: get off on.
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  Speaker 3: That does sound very juicy.
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  Speaker 2: Now write it, guy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. About the VMAs, I was at High Tops, a
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  Speaker 3: gay bar last night that we've been to together. And
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  Speaker 3: I went to the bar and this guy in his
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  Speaker 3: 20s pointed at the screen and was like, do you
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  Speaker 3: know who that is? And I was like, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very old. And he was like, I don't know either.
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  Speaker 3: And it was very difficult to realize just how many
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  Speaker 3: of the acts that I had no idea who they were.
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  Speaker 3: I was excited to see Renee Rapp from– do you
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  Speaker 3: watch Six Times of College Girls?
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  Speaker 2: I've watched a little.
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  Speaker 3: It's great. It seems like something you would enjoy. But
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  Speaker 3: the star of that who is so funny, she's a
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  Speaker 3: recording artist and she was there in Great Presence. Was
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  Speaker 3: there actually a fist fight between Megan Thee Stallion?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was all coming in. Something happened between Justin
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  Speaker 2: Timberlake and Megan Thee Stallion. Now, according to People Magazine
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  Speaker 2: and a few other reports, we can now say, no,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. She was getting her hair and makeup done.
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  Speaker 2: He walked by and she was like, hey. And he goes, hey.
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  Speaker 2: And she goes, no, I want to meet you in person.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, hi, like we're doing it now. And
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  Speaker 2: she was like, no, no, no. This doesn't count. I
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  Speaker 2: want to hang out with you. So it was very
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  Speaker 2: flattering on both sides and absolutely not a fight.
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  Speaker 3: All right. I would like to say a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing is that's why we love red carpets.
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  Speaker 3: It's because you have celebrities with their own kind and
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  Speaker 3: we're getting to watch and they're having organic interactions. And also, like,
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  Speaker 3: a realer award show than this, you have people– like,
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  Speaker 3: award shows are good because we put– famous rich people
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  Speaker 3: in jeopardy. We, like, dangle something in front of them
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  Speaker 3: and we get to see them want something. And then
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  Speaker 3: when they have a real reaction to it, you're like, ah, juicy.
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  Speaker 3: And I just... Joan was so good at the red carpet.
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  Speaker 2: Joan Rivers, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, like, we're not... We don't do that anymore because
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  Speaker 3: everybody got really scared about the idea that it needed
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  Speaker 3: to be body-shamey or that it needed to be critical.
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  Speaker 3: But I also think, like, we do love talking about
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  Speaker 3: these outfits. Like, we... Is there a way that we
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  Speaker 3: can recapture what the joy of the red carpet was?
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  Speaker 2: I saw a bunch of the red carpet looks and
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were all pretty fabulous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember who, one girl had a pink thing
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  Speaker 2: with like a bone coming through it. But I don't,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that was probably, that was the craziest thing
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  Speaker 2: I saw. A lot of nakedness looking stuff, but nothing like,
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  Speaker 2: overly shocking. Pretty tame, I thought.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was like seeing Nicki Minaj in like
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  Speaker 3: three different colors of like her business suit affair, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sort of like her big leather duster or whatever. Like
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  Speaker 3: it felt subdued, though music stuff is always bolder than
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  Speaker 3: like the Academy Awards or the Emmys or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Like when I worked at Fashion Place, it was always
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  Speaker 3: so much more fun to get to do the Grammys
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  Speaker 3: because like Bonnie McKee would show up in something ridiculous
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  Speaker 3: just to try to get attention. But.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us about when you worked on the MTV Awards.
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  Speaker 3: So the thing is, what makes me sad about, look,
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  Speaker 3: I do not want there to be violence going on,
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  Speaker 3: but I do like shit going on. And I worked
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  Speaker 3: on the VMAs in 2015, and that was the year
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  Speaker 3: when Miley Cyrus and I think Nicki Minaj, yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: was definitely Nicki Minaj, were having beef with each other
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  Speaker 3: and watching the way that these things were planned. Watching
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  Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj strategize with her team about her approach to everything,
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  Speaker 3: being so clinical in managing all of it, was really
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  Speaker 3: impressive to me. And the thing is, I like these stories.
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  Speaker 3: To some extent, are they professional wrestling? Are they us
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  Speaker 3: being sold sort of like a heightened version of what
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  Speaker 3: reality is? Are people manufacturing drama for the sake of
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  Speaker 3: manufacturing drama? 100%, but I like seeing it done well.
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  Speaker 2: So do you think that they had a real beef
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  Speaker 2: Nikki and Miley or no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that one I don't think was real. I
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  Speaker 3: think there are definitely other situations where people legitimately hate
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  Speaker 3: each other or, you know, don't like each other.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of it, now I have a
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  Speaker 2: different perspective. I think a lot of it is Fans
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  Speaker 2: getting involved and fans and people saying, oh, she dissed
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  Speaker 2: you in this live. She dissed you in this interview.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about her diss? And then it
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, I don't appreciate that. And the two
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  Speaker 2: people never get on the phone and say, okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: keep the beef going or let's squash it or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I think everyone's publicist just understand that. That like an
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  Speaker 3: article about what you eat for breakfast in the morning
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  Speaker 3: is not going to get the kind of traction that
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  Speaker 3: is about you made a Instagram post that might have
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  Speaker 3: been shading someone. Like they can get so much traffic
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  Speaker 3: off of that.
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  Speaker 2: So true. A handful of almonds and a handful of
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  Speaker 2: berries as a snack.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Salmon for dinner.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Turkey salad for lunch.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen that article for the last 25 years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right, no one cares.
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  Speaker 3: No one cares.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we haven't seen that very much, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody for stopping with a handful
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  Speaker 2: of almonds.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Though it does make a good snack.
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  Speaker 3: It does make a good snack. It's full of the
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  Speaker 3: right kind of fats. But I do like this being
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  Speaker 3: a world suffused with drama. I honestly wish more of
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  Speaker 3: the little girlies who have these singles out. I do
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  Speaker 3: sort of feel like the VMAs have been captured. by
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  Speaker 3: like the record companies and the managers trying to make
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  Speaker 3: their clients happen. And I just want one of those
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  Speaker 3: clients to get in a fight with someone so that
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  Speaker 3: then I'll know who they are. You know, like I'm
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  Speaker 3: never going to really know who these people are until
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  Speaker 3: they get in a fight with someone established.
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  Speaker 2: Very, very true. Very true. Here I am. Someone did
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  Speaker 2: find this photo for me. This is, I talked about
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  Speaker 2: last week about how Miley Cyrus, back when she did
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  Speaker 2: her 2014 tour, that's where she was humping teddy bears
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  Speaker 2: and kind of.
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  Speaker 3: That was the VMAs that I worked on.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it didn't officially come out as bi, but it
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  Speaker 2: seemed like she was pretty bi and now she's bi,
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  Speaker 2: that I had to get in the outfit and hump
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  Speaker 2: the teddy bears and a fan found it. So here
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  Speaker 2: I am. as her and i love her music no
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  Speaker 2: she's so.
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  Speaker 3: Great she's like one of the great personalities that we
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  Speaker 3: have and it makes me sad that she's a nepo
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  Speaker 3: baby but also it makes you understand why it all
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  Speaker 3: works i mean dolly parton is her godmother but like
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  Speaker 3: she's just so natural and seems relatable and actually continues
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  Speaker 3: to make good interesting music there are some people i'm
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  Speaker 3: sorry for yeah yeah I get mad that Adele is
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  Speaker 3: a good enough singer that she's never going to have
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  Speaker 3: to host a game show because Adele could host a
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  Speaker 3: game show.
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  Speaker 2: Adele wants to be a stand-up comic.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she literally, every clip I see, she's talking
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  Speaker 2: more than she's singing in the Vegas show.
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  Speaker 3: And like Miley, I honestly believe that Miley's career will
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  Speaker 3: evolve enough that I will get to see her have it.
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  Speaker 3: Like maybe, does she have a daytime show 15 years
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  Speaker 3: from now? Absolutely. And she could pull it off. I
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  Speaker 3: think daytime show is like, such a high level of
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  Speaker 3: like relatability is required. Second only to cooking show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Can I just say about Miley? Cause I thought
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  Speaker 2: you brought up a good point. I kind of forget
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  Speaker 2: that technically she's a Nepo baby in the sense that
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  Speaker 2: her dad was established musician and singer. So that would
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  Speaker 2: have helped put her in front of the line for
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  Speaker 2: the show. What was the show called again?
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  Speaker 3: Hannah Montana.
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  Speaker 2: Hannah Montana. But, I feel like people don't associate her
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  Speaker 2: with that because she was worked as a child star,
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  Speaker 2: like overly worked, fed coffee, having to wear a wig
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  Speaker 2: and eyelashes and all this other stuff. So she has
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  Speaker 2: sympathy as being like almost a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: child labor laws abuse, as well as being a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a nepo.
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  Speaker 3: When I was working at Hacks, we tried to figure
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  Speaker 3: out a system of categorizing nepo babies and It was
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  Speaker 3: grade one to grade three.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you told me that. And you told me what
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  Speaker 2: my kids would be.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, bottom of the barrel.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, but I feel like a Chris Pine. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Like his dad was on a TV show, 100%, could
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  Speaker 3: maybe make some connections. And I feel like. Chris Pine
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  Speaker 3: is definitely like a level three nepo baby, as your
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  Speaker 3: children would be.
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  Speaker 2: And so is Jed Aniston.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: A soap dad. Working actor soap dad.
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  Speaker 3: And it could have gone in any direction.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Mira Sorvino. And I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: Where is Tracee Ellis Ross?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Tracee Ellis Ross, I would say, is like... like
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  Speaker 3: grade two or grade one. I mean, great. Like her
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  Speaker 3: dad's also in the industry.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Her mom's a mega star.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what I got from Tracy Ellis Ross, because
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: we were on our first shows together, the lyrics of
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: sound is I was impressed when I went to her apartment.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that someone had an apartment like this.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Um, that hadn't really had a job before. That's what
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I understood what it's like to be a nepo baby
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: or have a trust fund or whatever. You don't have
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: a roommate. You have like an actual nice, decent apartment. But,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: and she told me like how she got the job
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: that I got, which was I just put a video camera,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: which I'm like, wow, you own a video camera in
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: my apartment. And she did all these different characters and
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: then gave that tape to her agent that she obviously
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: got easily through her mom at William Morris. And then
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: they submitted it. And then she got paid. The part.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: But the way I got the part was I couldn't
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: even audition at all.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: And then they found the white girl in the show,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and then that girl didn't work out. And then the
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: writers on that show that I worked with on Keanu Reeves,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: they suggested me, and then I got the part.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: The number of jobs I have gotten because they hired
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: somebody else who seemed like the right idea, and then
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that person didn't work out, and they were like, guy
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: will work. Right. And frequently got paid half as much
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: as the person before me and was very aware of it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: But it's also, those are also called opportunities.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Then, okay, so then we become friends and everything's great.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And she introduces me to this fabulous like Japanese restaurant
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: on 3rd.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: That was the first time I had like Lotus Root.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, losing my mind.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: What was that place called? That was like the good
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: sushi restaurant.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was sushi and like cooked.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Anyway, she tells me later on, Heather, I'm no longer
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: going to be part of the show, even if it continued,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: but I don't think it did. Because I got this
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: pilot that's going for UPN.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Was it Girlfriends?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: And it was Girlfriends. And she said the showrunner and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the writer and the creator was at the restaurant and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: didn't know who she'd get for Joan, saw Tracy.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: And was like, that is who should do it. Then,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: of course, Tracy auditioned and she killed it and she
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: was perfect for it. So I do say that like.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Whether you're Kim Kardashian and you became famous one way or, like,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: nobody keeps giving you jobs unless you have the craft
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: and you can do it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is, she's had two hit sitcoms.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: She's great.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: You can't, being Diana Ross's daughter doesn't do that for you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: She's terribly talented. But also, I just love that Camille
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Grammer has girlfriends money. Like, it just thrills me to
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: no end.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Wait, she?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Kelsey was EP and she.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Because there was another girlfriend type of show that Camille
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: was doing that I auditioned for Camille.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? For Camille Grammer?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: That she was an actress on?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: No, that she was going to help produce.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: That she was producing. It was another type of a
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: bunch of girls.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You know, everyone was trying to do like a friends
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: meet sex in the city kind of thing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And I didn't get that one either, but I remember
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I did audition for her, and she remembered me because
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I had a part on Frasier, and she was super nice.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think the show went, but I
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: didn't get it anyway because I never got anything.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Like, Kelsey Grammer was the producer of Girlfriends, always seemed
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: ridiculous to me, but also- It's not because he works
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: on good stuff, and that show was so good.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so good.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, moving on. Dancing with the Stars.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Mauricio's journey.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Mauricio, now, there's a huge list. I'm not even going
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to get it out. The ones we care about is
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Ariana Grande, which we knew. Mauricio, this was leaked about
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: a week ago because some detective saw some thirst photo
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that he took of himself and realized he was in
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the dance studio of some former whatever. And then Jamie
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Lynn Spears is doing it as well.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And what I heard is that Jamie, and I heard
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: this on a different radio show, so Jamie said, I'm
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: going to give my salary to the writer's strike or
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: the SAG or something. And then other people were like, yeah,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: because you're probably not going to last that long and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you get paid per episode. I don't know how you-
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: That's surprising.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: To me because I would think that Jamie needs the money.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she's doing this or if this
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: is even accurate, but I would think she needs the
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: money too. Take the money, girl.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: And this is also an interesting time for her to
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: be coming back because as I understand it, she was
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: pretty much up. a bad guy in the whole narrative.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: That's why I think that she's doing this.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: And it's also like Brittany has been in control of
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: herself for long enough that we are starting to understand
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and see the complexity of Brittany. I don't think in
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: any way that Brittany is a human being who should
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: have been under a conservatorship. for a decade, like that
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: anyone should have their rights taken away.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to move up to the Britney part
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: since we're talking about this. Oh, getting back to Jamie though,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Jamie was on that other show, Special Forces. Oh, okay.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: That's with Dr. Drew and she like basically saved Dr.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Drew's life. He was on like the first day. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: like they're like Navy SEALs or the version, the English
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: version of Navy SEALs that do all this stuff. Right now,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval's on it, but she was on it and
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: she lasted... A decent amount of time. And he thought
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: she was great and really nice and never spoke about
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Britney on that show.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think she has enough personality, and I could
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: be wrong, to be a great reality show person.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I think because she's a Nepo sibling. Do you think
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: people are meaner about Nepo siblings than Nepo loins from
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: your loins?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: There are always those situations where, like, Justine Bateman, Jason Bateman,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: where they were both sort of, like, very talented and
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: have had careers of like different energies where you get
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: sort of like worried or you feel responsible for them.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Or those twins who are Katie Segal's sister. Like that's
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: always interesting to me when people like.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: That show from the early 80s with the twins. It
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: was a sitcom. You 100% remember that show. But they
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: were Katie Segal's sisters and now Katie Segal, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: has a much better career than them. Anyway, the point is,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: It's very hard to be a Nepo sibling. I don't
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: understand going into the career of the people in your family.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I think the people that have done it right are
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the Wayans brothers.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, 100%, but also that's like a system that
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: keeps promoting itself. So many of them are talented and
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: it just keeps coming. Damon Wayans Jr. did a lot
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: for that family.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And so did, no, Kenan is the first one that
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: did it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: No, I know that Kenan, the first generation of all
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: of them, they were also talented and But then having
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: somebody else from the second generation pop up who just
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: like everyone wanted to.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, Damon Wayans Jr. Yes. Yes, he's great.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: No, what was great about them too is that the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: ones that were not in front of the camera, they
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: employed and they were like really good at their jobs too,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: whatever that was.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And– But yeah, it is interesting. I feel that she's
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: gotten a lot of hate because the book came out
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: and they didn't feel like she was on her side.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But let's get into the latest on Britney because I
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: don't think you know the latest about her new love.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: I do not. Christmas shopping has already started in our house.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: My daughter is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Hair care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: her bestie. But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I'm an early bird, buying one present a week from
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: now till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: buy in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or
• 23:00
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• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So easy.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: filed against me.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: home dad. What happens next?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: every day was.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm not going to
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: pull punches.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: So there was stories a few weeks ago that the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: reason that Sam filed for divorce is that she was
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: cheating with a male housekeeper, which seemed strange. Then I heard, no,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it's the male gardener. Yes, this is him. Yes, they
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: are dating.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And he does something on the property. Now they're calling
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: him a construct, like he was doing construction on the property.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, Sam Asghari is possibly the hottest
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: human being on the planet.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: And one of the things- Hotter than Brody Jenner.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, 100%. Totally disagree. Why?
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I just think Brody Jenner is the best looking person.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Just best looking person.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I just love that however much Brittany was constrained and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: wasn't allowed to be herself, we also understood her taste
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: in men and that she's an erotic being.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I like that because as somebody who was eroticized so young,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: there's always this danger of feeling that sexuality was pushed
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: at them in such a way that they don't have
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: a relationship with it. Natalie Portman has sort of talked
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: about the ways that she didn't feel comfortable for so
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: much of her life being engaged with her sexuality because
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: there was so much coming at her from a young age.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And I just love that we always knew... Brittany likes
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to have a good time and we know what type
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of guy she likes to have a good time with.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And this makes me happy because even though.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, no, it's not when I tell you more.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's not going to make you happy.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. Now, I heard stuff about this a couple weeks ago.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And now that this is out on Us Weekly, he's
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: been interviewed. He says, I'm not going to speak on it,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: but they're naming him Paul Richard Solis. He was making
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: some appearance at like a Chatsworth courthouse. He has two
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: baby mamas, one I think that is deceased and one
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: that he's getting a restraining order against.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: There's all this kind of stuff. He's got custody of
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: two of the kids. He's trying to get custody of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the others. He has some criminal background, which involves driving
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: without a license, negligence of a child, also Something having
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a gun without a license.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: All little things.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, wait.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Let me say this here before you say the big
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: bad thing. That all makes me happy because the Louisiana
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: is in her blood. You just sort of know this
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: is who she would still be if none of all
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: of this had happened to her.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Like Jason Alexander, her first husband.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Like, yes. And that this dude is a fucking dude.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And that like, yes, she looks at Sam Asgari and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: is like beautiful pecs, beautiful abs. Absolutely. She likes a
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: nice looking man. But that this guy just sort of
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: like raw masculine power of like, look at him cut
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: down that tree. Okay.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So now the rumors are that he has moved in.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: A couple of his kids have moved in. And that's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: where I get nervous as someone who cares for Britney,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: is that when people start to infiltrate a rich person's
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: life that doesn't have family around, and maybe people say
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: they got her family's not around, but the family's not around.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Then and she's so happy to have people and he's,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: you know, banging her good and and providing her for
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: with which whatever they might do together that might not
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: be so healthy, healthy that may cause her to spin for,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you know, 10 days straight. I don't know. But I
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: if I was her sister, Jamie Lynn Spears or parents,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: this would not make me happy. And I would have
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: much preferred Sam to have stayed.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I would have much preferred Sam to have stayed because
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Sam always was clearly dumb enough that he wasn't going
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to pull any big moves to try to take over
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: her life. That said, her family controlled her life for
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: so long that she gets to fucking do what she
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: wants to do. And if she wants to hand over
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: everything of herself to somebody else. That is her agency.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: And if it ends up fucking her in the end,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: at least she made those decisions.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he is fucking her and I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that's what's great.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: It does. That's the one good part. It does make
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: me worry that she is this person who is so
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: likely to let other people, you know.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is, you know.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: She's looking for somebody to take care of her and
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: it's so hard.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Sam Lufty.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was the creepy version. Sam Luffy has
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: asked to come on my show many times. He will not.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I do kind of, I'd love to hear his point
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: of view. He's defended himself many times in the last
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: couple years. But, you know, she does kind of find
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: these people. And if you watched the movie with The
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Weeknd and what was that called?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: The Idol.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: The Idol. A lot of people said that the story
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: was loosely based on a Britney Spears character who sees
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: this guy who she allows in her life, allows to
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: control her, that it was a sort of a Britney
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Spears type of a person.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Do you think that we will see Marilyn Monroe style
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: stories about her? Just because there is something so tragic
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: about the way that she's always looking for love and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: looking for somebody to take care of her.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, somebody said this to me and you're going
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: to lose your mind.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: What?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But it is a little bit Sunset Boulevard modern day.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Where she could think that she is still, I don't
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: know how, with it she is or not, but when
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: she's spinning and everything, is she like, I'm on the
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: stage at the Planet Hollywood.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm doing this. And then this small group of
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: people around her, the butler of Sunset Boulevard is now
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: this gardener slash handyman. I don't know what he does.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And the world gets smaller, but she... But with Instagram, she's.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Able to- We get an eye into it. You know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: we're always saying it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And she gets the response, not the comments, but she
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: gets the response of this many views, this many likes.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: It's so hard when you see how well managed and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: what a great business person Taylor Swift is. And just
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: sort of like hearing the story about them circumventing the
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: studios to release her tour special directly through the theaters.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's just sort of like, it's so brilliant. And clearly-
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: so much of that initiative and intelligence is coming from her,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: but also she has so many great business people around her.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: And it's just sort of so sad that like somebody
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: who needs that kind of support, like if Brittany had
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: the right people around her, there could be people who
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: were helping guide her towards continuing to be an artist
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: who grows. And I don't think that that will happen.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: And maybe it's not.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: What she wants. I think even if she does, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: don't know how much control those people have.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm going to be reading her book. Supposedly
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the book is great and coming out.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Which she wrote, 100% she wrote.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. I mean,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: You wanted to be one of the good ghost writers,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: like the guy who wrote Princess Diana's book.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I kind of think she did write it herself because
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I really don't think that she could keep a schedule
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: where someone's coming and she's sitting on a couch and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And they're typing away. I don't think so.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: There's no, like, I question her literacy skills.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: This is what I think happened. This is how I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: think the book was done.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Not that she's illiterate, but just like that she needs
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: somebody to help her make a sentence.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: This is what I think happened.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I think she talked into a recording device. And I
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: think they took all of that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And then they worked on it. And then they went
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to her and was like, okay, we just want you
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to talk about this little part about when you were
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: in Louisiana at eight. Okay, just do that. Send that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to me. Like, I think they gave her little assignments.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So it is her words.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: But someone organized.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: And put it together. I did that for.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Anyway, that's a super smart way to do it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I did that for Josh. What's his name from.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Altman.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Yes. Josh Altman.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: For his book. Yes. Yeah. I think that's a great
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: way to do it for busy people. Okay. I want
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: to talk to you being that you're Writers Guild person. Now,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Drew Barrymore a couple days ago announced that she would
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: be returning. She is a, you know, SAG after Writers
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Guild show host. but just a little update on it
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: so that she won't be using writers to do it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: And there is a SAG agreement for daytime.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, explain that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: So there are different contracts for different parts of the industry,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: and SAG right now does have, as I understand it,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: a contract for daytime. So she's not violating SAG and
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: going back, but she is breaking the strike for the
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Writers Guild, and she's also not showing solidarity with... SAG, uh, for,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you know, uh, theatrical stuff in primetime and everything.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: But I guess like she wouldn't, still wouldn't be like
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: highlighting any actors that have movies coming out or whatever,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: or working on movies because that would be, that would
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: be part of it. Um, but Sherry Shepard and Jennifer
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Hudson are scheduled to be back on the air starting
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: September 18th, according to their social media accounts. So I
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: don't know if they're not writers guild or they're, So
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it's really interesting. And this talk as well.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Because last time this happened, like after a couple of weeks,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: all of the late night shows went back and said
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: that they didn't have writers. And it was supposed to
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: be just the hosts riffing and improvising. And this time
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: that has not happened. And there has been a whole
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: lot more pushback for people who are doing that. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I think that's really important because we're in a hard
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: fight right now. And as long as those companies and
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: all of those companies are much bigger now. All of
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the studios are now owned by big corporations who have
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: enough money that they can spend a year not making
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: money off of this entertainment division. And every time somebody
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: goes back and allows them to continue to make money, um,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: it disincentivizes them from being able to find a contract
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: that will be able to meet the future of what
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: entertainment is for the people who are making the entertainment.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: It's so hard. We all love Drew Barrymore. Like I've
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: been on her show a couple of times, you know, um,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: She's a very nice person. And I also understand when
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: you're coming into this as a performer who usually when
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: it comes to the big business stuff, somebody tells you
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: what's going on. I'm sure somebody told her like, if
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: we don't go back, we're going to have to lay
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: off all of our crew and it's going to fuck
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: over our crew and everything like that. And I understand
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: that worrying her, but also those crew members make a
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: good living off of that job because of their unions.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And nobody has been more supportive of the Writers Guild
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: and SAG-AFTRA during all of this than the Teamsters and
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: IATSE and those other trade unions who understand that this
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: is important. And it makes me like... And I also
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: understand that daytime is in this weird space where they
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: are on a bubble and she, I believe, is having
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to go down to a half hour. A lot of
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: these shows are in trouble because people aren't watching broadcast
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: television as much anymore. But also... These things are freight.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: They're also freight trains. They are shows that still get
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: eyes every day. It's one of the few places that
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: you can still go and promote something. And I, you know.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Is she going to be able to crawl into someone's
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: lap still?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: No. I mean, I think.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And be like, oh, my God. No, seriously. I love bunnies.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: They're so soft. It's incredible.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: That they're actual animals and not just stuffed animals.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's really hard because her persona is that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Her persona is sort of like.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: The sweetest.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I'm sweet and on everybody's side. And I think that
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: this probably comes from her trying to be on everybody's side.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: You know, but this is also the I love rain
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: video person. You know, I mean, she is just. I
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: don't think she thinks. has thought a lot about the
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: like larger implications of this.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: It's too bad that she didn't have you to call
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: because I, I thought a different way before you sat down. Um,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I did think it, I wouldn't have done it if
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you know, but I, I understand the pressure of, but
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: we have the crew and you know, this kind of thing.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And like, I remember when Jay Leno went back to
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the tonight show in 2008 and just did it without the,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: without the writers. But I also remember he was paying
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: for their, He was so wealthy, he was still able
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to pay for their salaries and this kind of thing.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: And you can't really compare this to 2008 because the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: world is so different and the stakes are different.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: The notion that you're going on without jokes is false.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Like all of those people saying, oh, I don't have
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: writers right now is not true. People were giving them
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: stuff under the table and you yourself just going on
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: and sort of like riffing stuff are doing work that
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: should be covered by the writer's guilt. I mean, daytime
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: is a little bit of a different situation because what's
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: being written there isn't as significant as it is on
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: like a late night show with jokes and everything. But
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: also I know writers on those shows. I have interviewed
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: to be writers on those shows, you know, um, like
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: it is a job and it is disrespectful of the
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: people who support, like who hold you up. Like when
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: you're on a show like that, it feels like you're
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: the whole show. Your name is the show, but there
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: are so many people who hold you up and like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: You got to respect that, you know?
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Well, that was a real, I mean, yeah, she's under
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: fire and that she made a, a long explanation that
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: was like, I left, I didn't do the MTV film
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: and television awards because I was the host and dah, dah, dah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And then she said, I own this choice. We are
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: in compliance with not discussing and promoting film and television. Again,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I understand what she's trying to say, but you explained
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: it best.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, astute humility is a great, somebody tweeted this,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: a great illustration of the fact that she needs writers.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: That's what she says at the end, yeah. Yeah, but
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: also it's just sort of like, you know that she's
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: not somebody who, Drew Barrymore didn't go to school. You know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: like she went to school on the set of E.T.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: She went to school on the set of Firestarter, and
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I think, You know, you would hope that somebody would
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: understand the business better about that. But I also think
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: she's somebody who is used to listening to the people
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: around her who she feels like know about this. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I think she probably got not great counsel. And I'm
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: really hoping that other people similarly positioned don't, you know.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Really great points.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think people are going to explain it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: You're explaining it well. Wait, let me just make sure
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: that I– because I skipped over a couple.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're good. Okay, so quick Sandoval update. Tom Sandoval,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: so Raquel is back on her Instagram. And she's, you know,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: in a garden and whatever. And it was her birthday
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and Tom Sandoval tweeted or wrote to her maybe on a,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: under an Instagram or something. Happy birthday, Raquel. I really
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: hope you're finding peace and happiness. Miss you, friend. She
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: let that be known on her Instagram and that she
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: also blocked him. And really kind of a great moment
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: for everybody involved. It's funny to imagine him deciding to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: do that, knowing that it would be public, thinking, friend, like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: thanks for boning me those seven months or whatever it was.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to continue on with my show and
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: my tour. Hope you enjoy your flowers. Hope you're having
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a good day. And she just– and it was a
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: smart move of hers.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: There are so many riches here.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Resilient fuckboy energy makes me so happy. Like when somebody
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: falls down and picks themselves up and is just like,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to stop. This is just who I
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: am and what I do. It makes me extremely exciting,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: especially when that person is hot.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: He's real hot. Second of all, I– The fruit plate
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: down at the bottom, I just want to know so
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: much more about. Because it is like, who fastidiously put
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: together this beautiful fruit plate? What intern or assistant had
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: to make it look eaten from? Because it looks so
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: well eaten from. And also, there are actual peaches. But
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: then also, there's just a little pumpkin. Because we're almost
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: into fall. So there's a little pumpkin for show. And
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe she did it and her new venture is lifestyle blogging.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Cheese boards, pumpkin displays, and flowers prediction.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Going hard into that kind of pivot and understanding that
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: pivot is really, really smart. Let us never forget how
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: much money Kathy Ireland has made off of ceiling fans.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Let us never forget.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Understanding what your pivot is because that is beautiful and.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Truly, the people who get what they need from a
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: reality show and then sneak off to the bank with
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: whatever their deal is.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I actually have a hard time with charcuterie boards.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to graze it. I end up
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: eating too much of it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to chuck it after and not
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: have that poor person mentality that needs to wrap up
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the things that have already been touched and are gross.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's so much of the gesture of it
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: is being able to just sort of say, oh, that
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: remaining $ 37 worth of cheese, let's just get rid of
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: it because I need to have, you know, a refrigerator
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: that looks aesthetically pleasing. But this is, I mean, this
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: is so perfect. You got, like, those are ripe peaches.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I'm really impressed with that. But also, you know, so
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: much of it is still there. This is clearly a
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: done charcuterie board. They've worked their way through it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Whenever I see a peach, I always think of this
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: commercial when I was a little girl. Summer, summer fruit.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be summer with fresh from the tree. Taste
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: it and see.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: I do remember that commercial.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was a commercial you saw too. I want
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: to just finish up this Drew from Real Housewives of Atlanta.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: So they had this moment at the end of the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: reunion where she sang her latest song to her husband
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: that she said on the reunion as he's sitting there.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: She said, you've cheated on me and all these things.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: You embarrassed me and you cheated on me. He accused
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: her of having lesbian affairs. And then she showed– photos
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: of a girl's ass and everything that said, I want
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: that D that supposedly she had evidence of him, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: having sexy text messages. And he said he was catfished.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: All of it. I said, this is so weird. Seems
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: so fake. The fact, the fact that he sat there,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: listen to her sing, he produced the music and candy
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: put her in this movie called the past and That
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: just came out on Peacock.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Oh no.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So I watched the pass on Peacock.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: And that's like the premise of it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. This was all fake. This was all
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: set up. The four of them are in it together. Her, Candy,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: her husband, Todd Tucker, who shot the movie in 10
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: days at his house using the Tyler Perry connect, you know, formula.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So I watched it. It's pretty, it's pretty low bud cheese.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Took me two days to get through it. Drew's a
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: pretty decent actress in it. And she has this husband.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, this girl that she works with,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: who is the husband's best friend, who's a female, they
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: have sex and all this stuff. And then I'm not
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: going to root it for anybody that's going to watch it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: But the twist of it proves that they were acting
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: at the end of this reunion to get people to
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: watch this movie, The Pass.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Was it a satisfying viewing experience?
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Cheese and cheese. And I was impressed with Candy and
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Todd that they got a sale by Peacock, and I
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: think it was smart of Peacock to buy it. So
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a good move around.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I also do love when sort of there is a
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: deep fake kind of promotion kind of thing. Those always
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: really excite me. I mean, I wonder about was it
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: poorly done if you were like, this is weird, or
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: was it correctly done if you said this is weird?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: because it caused you to investigate and watch the movie.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I watched the movie just out of curiosity. I didn't
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: know that the movie would prove that my original theory
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: from Tuesday was correct. Yeah. Because everything in the movie
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: was in what we saw in the last 10 minutes
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: of the reunion. The fake messages, the lesbian affair, the
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you embarrassed me, you embarrassed me, is literally a line
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: that Candy says in the movie.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Everything about it was set up.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: When the newer Real Housewives try to produce too hard
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: and give you stuff that feels super fake or manufactured,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: it just feels sweaty. And so I am skeptical of that,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: though the movie sounds compelling.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty sexy. Dorinda has a new face.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Dorinda looks amazing.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: By Wig, Hello Drama said, what are you doing here
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: without Dorinda, which is a famous line.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I looked at her old face.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Are you implying that I don't know what it meant
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: when John Asgarian or whatever showed up?
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It was Sonia who said it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, no, I remember. What are you doing here without Dorinda?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: And then Dorinda made the shirts. What are you doing
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: without Dorinda? And I was like, it's actually Sonia's line.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: But she looks amazing. She has longer hair. But the
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: real difference is what I think is I think she
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: got her eyes done, the upper lids. And I think
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: she got a lower facelift and I think she did
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: something to the nose, either a filler in the nose
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: or maybe in a full, maybe even a nose job
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that's still going to be even smaller in about three months.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I do find it really fascinating the way that I,
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Sonia in particular, I think is somebody who can look
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: so gorgeous and also can look, you know, relatively busted,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: you know? Like, so it's like on a knife's edge
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm always so fascinated to see which version of,
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Of Sonya we're going to get.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Whenever I see a woman past 55 that shows up
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: with a completely new face, whether it's Kathy Hilton or
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: her or Sheba Shrey or whatever, it gives me hope
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: that if I can find a few months off, I
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: can come back as like a completely different person.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: And I would tell everybody that, well, I would have
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: to unless I just want to actually leave the earth
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and come back as a different person.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: And also just that thing of like getting the good
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: work done in just the right way. There are the
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: people who come and it's just like you've had a
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: bunch of work and then there are the people who
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: come back and you're just like.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I went to a retreat.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Yes. You look so refreshed.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Amy Schumer, I talked about this on Tuesday, she made
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: a little funny joke, threw up a photo of Nicole
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Kidman at the, we always open and said, this is
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: how humans sit. She got a lot of shit for it.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: So then she did another post and she said, I'm
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: sorry for my post, but maybe the cast of the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: 70s show can write me a letter. Wait, what did
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: she write? What did she say? She said, I want
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: to apologize to all the people I hurt posting a
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: photo of Nicole Kidman and alluding to her being an alien.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: I will be asking the cast of that 70s show
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: to write letters advocating for my forgiveness. Then she had
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to remove that too. Anyway, I thought that was pretty funny.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's all very funny. Like, I understand that
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: we had to come, like, that everyone is very self-conscious about, like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: are we shaming people is what we're doing, sort of
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: perpetuating negative stereotypes. But it's also, like, there used to
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: be a tradition in comedy of sort of, like, lashing
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: people Getting to take a shot at the people who
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: were gorgeous and rich and felt like you had everything.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: And there is also an interesting way that like it
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: is easy for somebody as they rise as a comedian
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: to not realize that they are in a greater position
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: of power.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I said. I go, it's okay. So
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: you can't punch down, but you can punch up. And
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I think this should be a lesson to her to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: be like, wow, I've really made it because people, I
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: almost feel like if I had made that joke. i
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: would not no one would have cared yes because they
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: would have been like oh you you wish you were
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: nicole kidman you stupid loser right you wish you'll never
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: get a seat at the tennis open but amy schumer
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: could have a seat at the tennis the thing is.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I have trouble with the idea of punching up and
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: punching down because i think the world is more sophisticated
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: than that behaving as though you can simply put on
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: a hierarchy everyone is really really stupid and they're you
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: know yes everyone's had to go through stuff but like
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: what real harm is there from, you know, pointing out that, like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Nicole Kidman is someone who is famous for poise, who
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: is famous for positioning. We all go to the AMC
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: theater and recite along with her, like, incantation before the
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: movie because she is giving us poison angles at every moment. And,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: you know, this is Amy's way of saying, like, She's
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: a different kind of person than I am.
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: This is ridiculous. And I think having more of a
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: sense of humility as a comedian about the stuff you
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: say and people pushing back. But I think everyone also
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: being able to have more of a sense of humor
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's. But I could get it. She's probably like, oh, fuck,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I have to take that one down, too.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Who cares? The thing is, this also, again, it's very,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: very funny. I also understand the argument that any time
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: you are getting close to rape and people who have
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: been victims of a terrible crime, that making light of
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: it from any angle is hard. But also, there were
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: so many stories about, oh, my God, can you believe
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: that this happened, about... The two of them that like,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: isn't that also profiting off of the story of somebody's like,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: why are these news stories not also being criticized for
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: profiting off of, um, like the scandal associated.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, they kind of do when you read the comments.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: They're like really people, like, you know, some of them.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But I thought this was pretty funny. This is from Matt.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Again, two people who should have had better guidance.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Yes. So for Ashton and Mila, they did their apology video.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: And this person wrote, I know their PR team wrote
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: them to sit in front of an innocuous, normal person
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: looking wall. But unfortunately for them, I have also watched
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: their Architectural Digest house tour and I know exactly where
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: this was filmed. So their house is gorgeous. They are
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: really wealthy. I don't think you have to apologize to
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: having a gorgeous home. But I always do think it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: funny of when you do your apology video, how much
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: little makeup you use and how much makeup you use.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: You don't want to look completely scary, but you want
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: to look like it was done in the moment and immediate.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: So you want to look a little disheveled and a
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: little like, I have to get this out right now
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: because you guys need to know my truth.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: It's all Erika Jayne not wearing waterproof mascara. Amazing. It's
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: all a question of how much are you– And it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: very hard for these people who produce everything and have
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: staff to produce everything. But can I just say, in
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: my dark years after leaving Chelsea Lately, when there was
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: nowhere else for me to work, I had to work
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: for Ashton Kutcher's production company for about a year.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Do tell.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: And I've never met somebody who was so certain of
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: their own intellect who was so wrong. He just really
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: thought differently. he was a mogul and that he understood everything.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: And it was just one of, I have gotten to
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: see up close the way that the people around a
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: celebrity can make them think you got this. I mean,
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: it was, it was during the period of time when
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: he did, um, the bad brown face thing for pop chips.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: And like, what was that explained?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Uh, he did brown face and pretended to be an
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Indian person and did like a bad accent for a
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: pop chips commercial. sort of at that turning point in
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: culture when people have been doing, I'm not excusing that
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: he did it, but it was conventional wisdom for most
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: of the 2000s that brown face, a bad accent for
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: an Easter South Asian person, or in any way pretending
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: to be gay was just the heart of comedy.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Totally true.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: And so I think these people who aren't sophisticated comedy thinkers,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of have just a different scale
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: for somebody like Amy Schumer- Yes. Who is thinking on
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: her own about comedy. Right. And these people who have
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: just like are reacting to, the world says that this
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: is funny. Why don't I do this? I understand why
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: people do extremely dumb stuff like this. This is so
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: weird because it is like they are showing loyalty to
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: someone who is their friend. And I think.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I just want to say, because I remember when I
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: was your date to the movie that you were in.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: What was it called again?
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: No Strings Attached. No Strings Attached.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: You played like Natalie Portman's best friend.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Afterwards or maybe at the after party, you went, I
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: think you went in the car with them to one
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: of the parties.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: And I met you at the party. And what you
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: told me later was the way that Demi and the girls,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: his stepdaughters at the time, hung on his every word
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: like he was the president of the United States.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: He was lecturing Demi about the history of the Chicago Bears.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: And she was just treating him as if he was
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: the most intelligent person. And it was just sort of
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It was like humoring a child. It
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: was really.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: That always stuck in my mind. Like, oh, that's so interesting.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Because then when I read her book, which was fascinating.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: If you haven't read Demi Moore's book, read it. It's
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: really good.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: But I just feel in a situation like this, you
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: have a different perspective on this because you are a woman.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: And you have always had to be aware of the
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: amount of violence and threat that is going on to women.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: But as a man... That thing of since Me Too,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: we've talked more about the shit that you don't see.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And the thing of having
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: to say, this person is fine to me, but I
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: am not a person that they are a predator towards.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: So I need to understand that my sense of loyalty
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: isn't applicable here. You know?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: My sister's a criminal defense attorney. I've had a brother
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: that we asked for letters to get. So people do
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: give letters to their friends, kids that did a DUI.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: People do that. But I think what is interesting about
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: this is that he didn't really seek the right counsel PR-wise.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: And the question is, why did he make such an
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: awful PR decision as if his letter's gonna really help
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: this guy anyway? Why would you do that when you're
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: in the position that he's in? And that's what is,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I think, baffling. And that's why people are going down
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: rabbit holes and being like, what really was this deep
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: connection between him and the Scientologist? And the 70s show
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: and their relationship and all this stuff. So it really
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: opened up a can of worms that was unfortunate for him.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: To me, it feels just like Danny asked me. And
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Danny is my boy. We became famous at the same
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: time together. And it's like.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Danny was who I called when I saw the woman
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: that I was going on a date with who was murdered.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, what? What happened?
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: So, okay. So he was part of a famous case.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: in which he had a date with a woman, he
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: went to pick her up, and she was murdered. And
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: the rumors are that one of the women that accused
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Danny of rape has come forward and said, I was
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: there when Danny got the call. You called him first
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: to say, what do I do, instead of the police.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: And Then they finally caught the guy after he committed
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: another crime and a woman got away and that's how
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: they caught. So it was another crime and attempted another
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: murder and attempted. And he did take the stand and
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: he was not accused of the murder or anything like that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: But that is where, you know, again, he should have
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: thought about that and that people would find this out
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: and that it would be dug up and it would look,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: really poorly, even though, I mean, no one's accusing him
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: of the murder, but some people are accusing him of
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: not going straight to the police.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, Scientology being tied up in all of this
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: makes me so worried and so uncomfortable. And I always
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: just look to Lena Remini in these times to be like,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: tell me how I should be approaching this. But that's
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: just a real, that's a real, real mess.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I want to run to some fun stuff before we
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: end it. Yes, go ahead.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: But I also think we need to challenge ourselves and
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: push back at ourselves about how much we are enabling
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: people when we sort of decide to ignore the parts
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: of them that don't hurt us.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. I want to talk a little
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: bit about OC. Are you up on OC?
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not at all.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I'll just quickly say I've never felt more
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: of a kingship. With Heather Dubrow.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, Heather Dubrow did talk show, the game show. Um,
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: she was amazing.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Um, so one thing is she sells her house for
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: 55 million and the girls are upset that she doesn't
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: find out that, um, the girls find out through the
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: press and she kept it a secret. She, Josh Altman
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: brought the, um, the offer.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: And so then they, they all approach her and they say,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you tell us? Why did you keep it
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: a secret? And she's like, well, why would I tell you?
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Because this whole season, she doesn't say season, but this
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: whole time we've been hanging out these last few months,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: you either say that I talk too much about myself
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and I make it about myself. And now you say
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I'm being aloof and secretive. So I cannot win. I
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: cannot win with you. And I honestly, I didn't think
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: you'd be happy for me. And they're like, why do
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: you think we wouldn't be happy with you? I don't know.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the other woman's houses? I mean, none
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: of that. I mean, Gina, it's my understanding that she
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: lives in a decent house, but I believe that her
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: mother-in-law had something to do with that. So like she
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: lives upper middle class, but not to the level.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: And Heather's husband is upscale dermatologist, right?
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: He's a plastic surgeon, but they've made a lot of money,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of investments. They have a lot of products.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Then Gina is a hardworking girl trying to get a
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: real estate license with her husband. And they have her
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: new boyfriend. She lives in a condo. It's small. Tamara
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: does good. Tamara does fine. Shannon is in a nice house,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: but it's a rental. This other girl, Jen, she lives
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: in the Tuscan look with the chocolate spotted, and so
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: does Taylor. They need a redo on their kitchen. So
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: you have Heather Dubrow in a $ 55 million house. No,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be happy that she
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: sold it and that she bought a condo in, um,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: you know, in, uh, LA.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Um, I mean, that's exciting.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: For $ 14 million. And I want to see her go
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: to Beverly Hills.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Yes. I mean, that would be amazing. I think she's
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: high quality. And I also think with Taylor, the notion
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: of people being bumped up or bumped down a franchise
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: makes me happy. Let's make this as much like European
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: soccer as possible. Also, working on the book for Josh
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Altman was what taught me that When something has that
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Tuscan look, it is just worth 20% less than it
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: would have been otherwise.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: You know why? Because it's hard to redo. It'd be
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: better off if you're buying an older 80s ranch. It's
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: easier to update that to 2023 than a 2004 dark
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: chocolate Tuscan ranch look. A Tuscan villa.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: I do have to say, though, I do like when
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: all of the members of a Real Housewives franchise realize
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: that one of them is too powerful. and so combine
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: all of their powers to destroy her. The season on
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills where all of the most powerful witches in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: the land banish Lisa Vanderpump You know, I hate it
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: because I love Lisa Vanderbilt, but also it's good TV.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: It's a gang up.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Kyle, she just shared that she's in Paris
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: with Morgan Wade. I'm going to make you love me. Well,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I'm here with Kyle Richards, Beverly Hills. Girl, I'd never
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: seen the show. I was just a little country bumpkin
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: singing these songs. And then she says, I want to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: make you a star. And that's what's happening. So she filmed,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: she shows on her Instagram things. She has a crew
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: behind her. We know it's not the Real Housewives of
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills crew. We know she's doing a documentary to
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: make Morgan Wade, in my opinion, the next Carrie Underwood
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: with tats and a little light lesbianism. And so the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: question still is, are they, you know, finger banging or not?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Or are they just good friends and she's using her
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: as a project to up both their careers? Which I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: think that is for sure.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: I 100% think that she is getting sex out of this. Okay, good.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: I 100% think, like, that's an evolution I've seen in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: so many people in, like, our world.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Late in life, Les.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Late in life, Les.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Also, if it is real lesbianism, what is the timeline
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: between Kyle starting dating a woman and going on a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: vacation with Fortune and Jax? Wow.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: I think– Three and a half years? Yes. I think
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: three and a half to four years, they're off the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: coast of Croatia in a boat.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: You know what? I'm not going to be happy for fortune.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Unless I'm invited.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest. That's not one that I'm
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: going to be like, go have fun, girl. I'm going
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: to be a little pissed.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Yes. Would you separate from Peter for nine months and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: start a relationship with a country star or a women's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: soccer player? Just to sort of like to get to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: see what the A-list Los Angeles power lesbian world is like.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Would you ever go undercover?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: If I could go undercover and the sex is just
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: like a tickle back and watching movies, then 100% I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: could live with a woman for the rest of my life.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to learn anything new. And I just
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: don't think I'd be good at it. To be totally honest.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one thinks you would be good at it. No,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: no one thinks.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I'd be good at it. Tickle back, I can do.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Tickle back in your arm. Tickle back. I'm all about it.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake are you watching it?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: I watched the first episode I thought that the snowball
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: fight was the most like it was a very satisfying
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: evolution of Real Housewife I would have liked to have
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: seen it not in the first episode but somewhere them
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: actually getting to do something aggressive at each other but
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: that had no consequences made me really happy I do
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I sort of hope that two episodes from now somebody
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: shows up with like crutches and it's like you hit
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: me very hard on the head and now You know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: something like that would make me a little happy.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen because they're already
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: in Palm Springs and they seem to be okay.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: But it's, you know, Meredith is getting very angry with everybody.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: And I will tell you right now. I want her
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: out of here. This is wrong. Should we talk about
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: her husband? Should we talk about what's going on with
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: her life? They are out for blood to destroy everybody's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: marriage and everyone's livelihood.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: So was Jen Shah like the locus of chaos and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: danger in the previous seasons?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: She is the biggest criminal in the history of reality TV.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Next to Chrisley, knows best.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: So she has been in prison for like seven to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: nine years or something. She has to definitely do seven.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe a year got scraped, but she's definitely doing seven.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: And no one gives a shit. No one is packing
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: a lunch and going to visit her. It's over with.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: They're done. And then this other girl that used to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: be her assistant that I guess– Turned on her and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: then gave info to save herself and to get her convicted.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: She's now a housewife.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Yes. Do you think that Andy could work something out
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: so that like that season when Bethany was only talking
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: to her employees.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Off the driver Billy.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yes. Jen just had like. Um, you know, a prison
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: matron that she like, you know, from her cell, she liked, you.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Know, somebody, somebody was saying, you know, they, they, one
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: thing that pisses off a housewife more than being fired
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: is when they are still being talked about on episodes
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: when they're not there. And they feel like, how dare
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: you use me for content? How dare you use me
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: as a storyline? Um, when you're not paying me. And
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: there's been talk of like, is there any, you know,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: retribution or kind of lawsuit or anything? So they're saying
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: she must be pissed in prison, but there's nothing she
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: can do about it.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: And then Mary got bumped last season and now she's
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: back as friend.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: She's back with no concept of her, of her, about
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: her church. No one's talking about the church. I went
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: to the church with the boys. We went to go
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: look at it and it was all boarded up and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: it was all closed up and it was creepy and scary.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: And yeah, she just brings her bags and she's just
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: like a snobby bitch. And she just acts like she's,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: she doesn't talk about Jesus and she doesn't act nice
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: or religious.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Well, it does seem like Luann's friend of season was
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: so transformative for Luann. I think it really like got
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: her on the straight and narrow for who she needs
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: to be on a real housewife show. And do you
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: think Mary can recover in that same way?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: No, I think this is going to be kind of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: a mistake that she came. I think, you know, what
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: was good about her is that we thought she was
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: a weird cult criminal too. And if that's not going
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: to be featured at all and she's not going to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: be like, you know, making weird eyes about how she
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: hates her husband that was her step-grandpa.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know that we just need to see her
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: being a snob. I don't think that's that interesting.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Well, not participating in the snowball fight was very like,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: it was shades of Aviva. Yeah. Do you think it's
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: going to be interesting that you don't do the thing?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, at least she was there like, like, wrinkling
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: her nose at it, but it's just like.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing the, the snowballs. Okay. I'm not. Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: It's just not fun. Guy.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about one more?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, we can talk about one more thing.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Okay. I just wanted to talk about, um, like there's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: been shit going on with you and people have been
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: saying that you were homophobic because you didn't do a
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: video for, um, the campaign against, uh, like bands on drag.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: And we talked about it and you sort of said like,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: it was a political thing that I didn't understand all of.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: And so I, you know, I promoted the stuff, but
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: I just didn't want to do a video because I
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: didn't understand it. And that made a lot of sense
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: to me knowing who you are and knowing that you
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: are a person who loves the queer community, but you're
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: also somebody, like we have disagreed about stuff, and you've
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: had a lot of people push back at you when
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: it comes to stuff that is politics, and you create boundaries,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: which is sort of like, I'm not gonna get involved
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: in that because I don't understand it. And I just
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: wanted to say that that made a lot of sense
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: to me, but also just wanted to talk to you
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: about the fact that these bands, even though, It seems
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: like not that big of a deal because they're just
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: saying like, well, no drag around school and stuff like that.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like that big of an issue. But
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: it is just sort of part of a larger project
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: of making gay people and queer things and trans people
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: seem dangerous to children. And scary.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: And I totally agree with that.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I totally think it sucks. And I don't think it's necessary.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, parents can parent their kids
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the way they want. And if they want to homeschool, fine.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: If they want to keep them in school, fine, whatever.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I think parents should be able to do that, you know,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: providing they're not, the children not being, you know, abused
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: by the weird parents, but whatever. Right. Like I'm just saying, yeah,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I just, with that particular thing, I didn't know all
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: the sides. I didn't know what the PR campaign was
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: being fed to, to, to, to scare people versus the PR.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: You know, it happens on both sides where we hear,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: and then people will say, Heather, that wasn't right. What's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: really behind this is that. And that's where all the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: layers are. And that's why I wasn't like, that's why
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, can we just promote the telethon? Because
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I'm all for the art of drag. I'm all for
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: the entertainment of drag. I'm all for people continuing to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: be able to entertain And I love that drag has
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: become such a big entertainment force in the last 15 years,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: thanks to RuPaul's Drag Race.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: And also, you are somebody who understands the change that
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: has happened in our society over the course of the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: past 30 years, where people who were silenced and alienated
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: and told that they didn't have a place, like are
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: getting more freedoms and like that, that that's great. And
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: it enriches all of us. Um, and that there are
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: people who are scared about that and are pushing back in,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: in different ways. And it is hard when people are
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: paying attention. Years ago, I followed somebody on Twitter just
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: because I liked a sitcom that they created. And then
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: later somebody comes along and is like, why are you
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: following this person? This person is very anti-trans or like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: are you anti-trans? And I was, you know, simultaneously was like,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: who are you to be going through who I follow
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: and sort of like yelling at me about it? The
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: fact that I follow this person doesn't mean I endorse
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: everything that they say, but also once I learned about it,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: I stopped following him. And the thing is, is like,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: sometimes this pushback is valuable for you to learn about stuff,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: but also people giving more space for the fact that like,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: not everybody understands everything, you know, is, is also important
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: because there are so many things that that look like
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: a good idea on the surface. And once you scratch them, um,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: you know, it, it is more problematic and you didn't
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: know it when you just thought you were doing something
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: nice or good. Um, you know, but in this situation, I, like,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: I do just want to let you and everybody know
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: that however much it may seem like not a big deal,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: like these drag bands are the thin end of the
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: wedge of trying to push back rights for you know,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: all queer people, all trans people, and that that in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: a larger sense is bad for everybody who's marginalized. You know,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: we live in an America where women don't have the
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: same control over their bodies that legally that they did
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: five years ago. That's part of a larger movement and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: we all need to be taking care of each other.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And when are you running for president?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Guy, tell everybody where they can follow you and find
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: you and enjoy more Guy Branum fun.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: I am at Guy Branum across all social media. And
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: I'm on Platonic on Apple Plus. If you haven't watched it,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: please watch it.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's so good. And enjoy him. And thank you
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: so much. And everything for me is at HeatherMcDonald.net. September
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: 29th and September 30th, Sacramento and San Francisco live Juicy Scoops. HeatherMcDonald.net.
• 1:11:32
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• 1:11:36
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• 1:11:39
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• 1:11:43
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• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: for it? This exclusive place that Dada's connections with.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: What's it called?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: It's Dune ADL.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Dune ADL. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I got it on Done Deal Cars.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: Lift, please.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: You're going past Kimmage. Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Done Deal Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.