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4th & Lecture - Episode 4: National and Premier Divisions Preview! · TDUK

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  Hello, hello, and welcome to the first
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  live episode of fourth and lecture of
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  the year. Um
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  I don't even know what to say. Well, I
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  wasn't expecting this one.
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  We all thought we were recording this
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  until about 5 minutes ago. So,
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  as always, I'm Tom from TLK Football,
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  and I'm joined once again, and as
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  always, by Shiv and Welsh Joe.
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  >> Hello, everybody.
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  >> How are we doing?
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  >> Oh, wow.
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  >> All good. Caught me by surprise with
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  this one. Been out of the Langwith and
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  Wakefield game not long got back, and
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  all of a sudden, it's like, "Yeah, let's
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  go live." So,
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  >> It's a big day today.
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  >> Big day. Big day.
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  >> Let's jump in on that, actually, before
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  we get into the uniball of it all. Um
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  Joe, you've just had a massive day um
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  with the Langwith Buccaneers in the
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  summer leagues. Um
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  one of the two north um
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  progressing to play Ipswich Cardinals in
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  2 weeks in the national final.
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  >> Yeah, it is. It is.
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  >> you I was going to go into more of that
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  on the live show tomorrow night, but I
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  just wanted to give you the first word
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  on it, mate. How'd it go?
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  >> Tremendous. I mean, what a game, to be
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  fair. Wakefield, they're absolutely
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  solid team. Um we've seen them going
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  through the season. They made some good
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  signings start of the year. They've been
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  sort of
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  They've They've two losses in the
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  league, but in a league that's pretty
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  tough. So, when they beat Lincoln last
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  week, we knew we were on notice to some
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  extent because it's like, "Okay, these
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  are a team that are serious. They're
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  ready to play. They're going to give us
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  a hell of a game." And it was. We were
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  three nil up at half time.
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  Went 13-3 down and there was a feeling
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  on our sideline that things might just
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  get away with us.
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  And then somehow between that and the
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  fourth quarter, we ended up going 23-13
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  up and winning the thing. So, it's been
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  a right old day. My voice is a bit
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  hoarse now. Um
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  It's the kind of the games you play
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  Britball for though, isn't it? But at my
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  big age, it's getting hard work.
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  Even just on the sidelines.
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  >> Am I right in thinking though that
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  regardless of the result, because of the
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  way it all worked, both you and
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  Wakefield will be playing Div 1 ball
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  next year?
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  >> Yeah, we are. So, we both won our
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  qualifier last week. I suppose quarter
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  or they call it semis, I'm I'm never
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  quite sure. But the first game of the
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  playoffs is for promotion. So, both
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  sides were promoted today. Um so, we'll
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  probably see Wakefield in the league
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  again next year and we're looking
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  forward to it. Um but today was just a
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  qualifier. You say just a qualifier, but
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  it was the qualifier for the final next
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  week. Um as we said, Ipswich Plymouth
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  really close game. There was one point
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  in it. So, I think a failed point after
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  was the differential between the two of
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  them.
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  Um so, we'll be meeting Ipswich in the
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  final. Just absolutely buzzing for it.
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  >> Unreal. And Shiv, you played for um the
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  Leicester Panthers side that also had a
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  bit of a cameo in post season football
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  this year. And did you watch the
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  Vikings-Rams game through the day?
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  >> Um yeah, no. Um um
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  It was a good game. It was a It was a
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  shame, you know, Rams didn't make it,
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  but
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  uh that's just my own bias. They beat
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  us, so you have that little support for
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  them, but um yeah, no. It'll It'll be
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  It'll be fun to watch the final and I'm
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  hoping next year we get a little Box
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  versus Panthers, a bloody Panthers game,
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  sorry.
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  >> Bam. Um well, Joe, we have spoken about
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  um pre- and post-match rituals before on
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  the show. And for anybody joining us for
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  the first time, because it is the first
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  live show of the year, we've done
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  three episodes up to this point. Um
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  that's all on YouTube, Amazon, uh Apple
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  Music, Spotify. Please go and catch
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  yourselves up. But,
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  post-match ritual,
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  did you get your KFC?
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  >> Not today. Not today, no. So, I noticed
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  on the way out last week that they that
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  you like Yulan they're called now, not
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  Yuclan.
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  Um that the Yulan Sports have got their
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  own boot like burger van. So, I gave
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  that a go instead. So, I admitted the
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  chicken burger for today and went for a
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  double cheeseburger. So, yeah, we're big
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  healthy eaters on this show.
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  >> How do you find it compared to KFC?
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  >> Uh it's
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  it was all right, but I mean, it's hard
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  to beat the colonel, innit?
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  >> Yeah, it really is.
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  Bam. Well,
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  let's just take a plunge straight in and
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  go into the uniball of it all then.
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  That's why we're all here, really. Um
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  and again, for anybody that hasn't been
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  following the show up to this point, I
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  know it's pre-preseason. I know there's
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  a load going on with summer ball, and
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  we're just getting started. But,
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  this is the cork board. Up to this
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  point, we've been keeping track of all
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  of the
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  current vacancies and job postings in
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  books for anybody not attached to a uni
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  team who wants to get involved and is
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  maybe aged out, not a student, wants to
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  get involved with coaching. Um so again,
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  please go and catch yourself up on
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  everything. I've read them all out at
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  certain points. It is all there. Uh but,
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  joining us on the cork board this week,
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  um we've got
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  the Bournemouth Bobcats of the
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  Premiership South. We'll get into all of
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  We'll talk about them in a bit deeper
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  later. Uh looking for defensive coaches.
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  Um the John Moores Fury in the Division
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  1 Northwestern have put a general call
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  out and the team Midlands in the
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  under-19 regional series are looking for
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  offensive coaches.
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  Boys, just look at this board for me.
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  What's the job that's standing out to
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  you? What
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  What's the headline job?
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  >> Here we go. Well, I've got my glasses
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  on. It's hard to say, but I think Durham
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  is still recruiting, aren't they?
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> I mean
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  Does it get much better really than
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  walking into a job with the national
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  champions?
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  That's got to be Surely if you're
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  somebody that's got an interest in
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  coaching and you live somewhere near
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  there getting involved with Durham's got
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  to be a big one on the list.
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  >> Yeah, but I do think there's a lot of
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  pressure though. You know, if if they're
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  going in fully new coaching, you know,
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  arguably one of the best teams in the
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  country.
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  That'll be a a lot of pressure on their
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  back.
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  >> Yeah, I
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  I am inclined to agree with Joe though
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  that the support you'd get, especially
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  if you were a first-time coach stepping
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  into
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  the experience in that room, you'd learn
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  a lot and you'd learn a lot quickly. But
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  the same can be said about teams like
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  you know, the UEA Bullets twos are on
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  there.
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  Um
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  Brighton Panthers have a really good
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  system around whatever head coach they'd
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  be bringing in.
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  Um
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  and personally
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  I think the under-19 program teams are
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  is just a really exciting program to be
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  around. I've got Team North and Team
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  Midlands on there.
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  Um
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  and I've just got to say it because I
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  have to say it out loud.
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  Bath will always be on the UniBall
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  corkboard, regardless of if they're the
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  only flyer on there. The game always
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  needs more officials.
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  But
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  So
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  So far this pre-preseason we've done a
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  whistle-stop tour of the teams and
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  division alignments in UniBall. We've
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  done a couple of rookie survival guide
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  episodes and a pretty cool interview
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  with coach Guido of the Worcester
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  Worcester Royals, actually. I'm just
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  going to interrupt myself there.
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  Um if you haven't watched our interview
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  with Alessandro, again, go back and do
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  that. Um but if you're involved with a
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  team and you want to come on and help us
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  talk a little bit more in-depth about
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  your division and your schedule, we'd
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  love to have you on. Just drop the page
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  a message and we'll get you scheduled
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  in. We
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  talk like we know everything, but
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  there's so much going on in BritBall
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  that we need the community support to
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  get this sport covered the best way we
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  can.
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  But
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  we've not actually got into the
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  competition as a competition yet. We've
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  not got into the weeds of it. So, what
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  Shiv in the episode plan that Shiv has
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  put together because he's an absolute
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  legend.
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  >> Stop it.
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  >> I think it's time we start at the top
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  with the National Division. We talk
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  about the teams, the division
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  alignments, and I'm going to hold you to
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  some predictions. Sound all right, boys?
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  >> Sounds good.
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  >> Well, there you go. That is the BUCS
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  National League, obviously headed off by
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  the Durham Saints, the reigning
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  champions. Um University of West England
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  Bullets, long time and constant
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  competitors. Nottingham Gold, also
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  routine finalists. Loughborough and the
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  newly promoted Premiership champ,
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  unbeaten in
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  2 years, Brunel Burners.
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  What stands out there, boys? What are
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  What are the initial thoughts looking at
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  that graphic?
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  >> Joe?
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  >> Um
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  I mean, there's a team with James and
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  Wang and then there's several other
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  teams.
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  Um
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  it's just insane, isn't it? Like the the
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  quality that they're bringing in. I
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  mean, they've always been a top team
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  that are there or thereabouts, but like
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  the early signs of the signings already
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  um they brought in the QB from Leeds
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  Beckett for the twos even. It it just
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  shows you the level of depth that
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  they're there. I mean, Durham are
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  brilliant. Durham are absolutely
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  excellent team. They defied
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  expectations, I think it's fair in
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  saying last year
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  um managing to take the top spot. So,
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  they're going to be there or thereabouts
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  again. I think last year I expected an
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  awful lot more of Leeds Beckett cuz they
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  made a lot of really big signings, and
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  it didn't always pan out. So, I mean,
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  it's you look at UEA, you think with the
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  quality they're bringing in and the
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  players that are around their unit that
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  it's it can't be anybody other than
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  them, but Durham proved last year it can
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  be and it it will be. So, I don't know.
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  How how do you call this division? What
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  do you think, Tom?
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  >> I mean, I have to agree with you. I'm
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  just going to put a quick fact check on
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  it. I believe it was the quarterback
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  from Nottingham Trent who's come over to
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  play for the twos. But, yeah, it's
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  the Ross 12 Panthers shameless plug for
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  the Thursday show that we do covering
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  the Uni Ball of the Euro
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  the Euro Ball. Um
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  Jameson Wang and the Ross 12 Panthers
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  have just put 41 points on the
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  London Warriors.
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  That's a team that's going to be making
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  waves going into the playoffs. I it's
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  it's absurd to me that we're going to
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  get to see football of that quality by
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  players of that quality in our humble
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  little university game.
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  But, at the same time
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  is anybody going to count against a team
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  that haven't lost since Shiv was in
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  sixth form?
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  >> I don't know. Last Last year, I think.
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  >> Two years ago, mate.
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  >> Oh, two years Yeah. Oh, yeah, two years
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  ago, yeah. Oh gosh, I had to
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  fact check myself there. Sorry.
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  um
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  Yeah, no, I I personally think
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  my prediction for this um
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  league, I think Durham,
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  you know, they they they got over that
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  that UE hurdle, you know, that's such a
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  big psychological battle, and they're
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  beating that, and I'm
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  it's theirs to win it, you know, if they
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  if they stick with how they played last
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  season, you know,
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  the the 14 to 6 championship win tells
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  you a lot, and um
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  yeah, it will
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  it's also the um
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  Oh gosh, I'm Sorry, I'm I'm getting this
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  live show, I'm getting all nervous.
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  Um No, um yeah, no,
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  Durham showed that they don't need to
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  rely on such a big off offense, you
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  know, their their defense is crazy.
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  Their defense are so good, so I think
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  they will definitely
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  show a lot next season.
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  >> Mhm.
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  Um
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  a lot gets said in and around the
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  community about scholars, and these
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  teams being built on your imported
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  Americans and all of the above.
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  But in this division, we're talking
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  about teams that
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  sort of all do it. So,
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> what sets them apart? Beyond the Beyond
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  the names, beyond your Jameson Wings,
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  like
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  what is it that actually sets these
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  teams apart and creates a competitive
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  disparity?
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  >> I think what stands out to me is they
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  don't seem to be one of the clubs in the
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  Prem that do it as much as everybody
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  else is Nottingham.
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  They tend to rely more on sort of
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  homegrown players and players that have
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  come through their own ranks.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Um
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  they're just testament really to the
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  fact that football can be done with a
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  good program with dedicated coaches,
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  where there's This isn't Obviously, this
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  isn't to say that they're the only ones
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  that do it, but the dedication to
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  building a solid program that brings
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  other players up, and I think this
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  addition of a third team shows the
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  quality and depth that they seem to have
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  as a university. Whether whether the
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  third team and the depth pans out is is
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  the big question in Brick Bowl,
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  especially big question in Div 2 at the
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  minute.
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  But I think it's a real testament to the
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  fact that they are able to take players
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  at 18, generally I'd imagine new to the
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  sport into university,
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  and able to get them to a level where
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  they're passable decent footballers up
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  to the point where they're competing for
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  the top end of the Prem. Um I think
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  that's the most important thing for all
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  these clubs, and I think when you look
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  at all five of them, they're that is
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  what all five of the clubs do
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  particularly well is that they their
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  coaching is top notch. They are able to
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  bring everybody up to a certain standard
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  and then elevate those better players
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  beyond that standard as well. It's great
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  to bring in additions and have like your
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  standout star players, but I think that
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  sets your ceiling and I think the most
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  important thing is having the coaching
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  and the backroom staff to be able to
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  elevate your floor to the point where
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  everybody can compete at that level,
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  too.
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  >> Yeah, I couldn't agree more. For me it's
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  it's all about the coaching staff. It's
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  all about the setups that they've got.
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  These are five incredibly well-run
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  teams.
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  Anything from you on that, Shiv?
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  >> Uh I was about to say about the coaching
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  stuff as well. Um
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  I mean, this is at the top of the uni
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  leagues, you know, it's um
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  there's going to be some sort of
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  expectation from these coaches even if
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  they're going to
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  and you know, have new players come in
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  and stuff. There's that expectation
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  these new players will become good, you
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  know,
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  excellent even cuz
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  at such a high level, you can't really
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  expect anything less.
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  So then um like when it goes back to the
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  um the board, you know, where if you
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  know, with Durham looking for a new
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  coach, I think
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  it's commendable for whoever who takes
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  up that role because it's a lot of
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  pressure to try and get those, you know,
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  new 18-year-olds to
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  become some of the best in the country
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  basically at like uni level anyway.
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  But um
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  yeah, coaching is crazy.
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  >> Well, before I go and ask you the big
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  question and hold you to it for the rest
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  of the season. Um
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  Shiv, I'll stay with you.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> What game are you looking forward to
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  more? Give me a head-to-head that you
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  like in this division.
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  >> I cannot wait for um Saints against UEA.
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  I'm so excited to watch that. You know,
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  they were the the top two teams of past
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  couple seasons. They've always had that
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  that
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  fighting for the top spot. And it's I
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  don't think it's going to be a dis-
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  disappointment. That game is going to be
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  crazy. I'm definitely going to start
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  going to be watching that. Um
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  yeah, the Saints and UEA.
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  >> Yeah. Joe, what about you?
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  >> I'm looking forward more than anything
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  to Brunel's first game of the season. I
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  can't remember who they've got first up,
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  but I'm really looking forward. Like you
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  say, undefeated in 2 years. They've had
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  a bit of a turnover in coaching over the
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  summer. But I can't wait to see how they
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  stand up in this top division more than
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  anything else.
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  >> So,
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  Brunel's first game of the season
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  is actually possibly the worst case
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  scenario for them. On October the 25th,
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  they've got the UEA Bullets.
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  >> I mean, is it is it worst case scenario
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  or is it best case? I mean, they've got
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  they've got an ridiculous opportunity
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  to get in there, make a huge statement
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  first game of the year, and put other
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  teams on notice. And
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  the couple of years they've had, like
• 16:53
  you said, undefeated since Shiv was
• 16:55
  like doing his GCSEs.
• 16:58
  Um
• 16:59
  does that say more about Shiv than it
• 17:01
  does about Brunel? I don't know.
• 17:03
  Um
• 17:04
  maybe it does.
• 17:06
  But I mean,
• 17:07
  yeah, I I think they've they've got to
• 17:09
  be keen for it. They've got to be well
• 17:10
  up. I know they've had some changes, but
• 17:12
  that whole squad have got to be chomping
• 17:14
  at the bit for October 25th to roll
• 17:16
  around for that first first snap at
• 17:19
  things really.
• 17:20
  >> Yeah.
• 17:21
  >> And that's the kind of game you'd have
• 17:22
  your eye on to sort of go right, we've
• 17:24
  got an immediate sort of litmus test to
• 17:27
  line ourselves up against arguably like
• 17:29
  the best in the division as many people
• 17:31
  will be touting them as and to try and
• 17:34
  get out there and to try and get a
• 17:35
  result. I think that's going to be so
• 17:36
  much fun.
• 17:37
  >> Yeah, I
• 17:39
  couldn't agree more. They've got them at
• 17:41
  home.
• 17:42
  So, you you've got to go into East
• 17:45
  London.
• 17:46
  I it's it's a really good opportunity
• 17:48
  for them to just lay down, we will not
• 17:51
  be beaten at home regardless of what
• 17:53
  division we're in.
• 17:54
  But, speaking of Brunel, I do just want
• 17:57
  to raise their schedule, because you're
• 17:59
  talking about a litmus test, they have a
• 18:01
  brutal
• 18:03
  welcome to the National League. Are you
• 18:05
  ready for this, boys?
• 18:06
  >> Yeah, go
• 18:08
  >> 25th of October,
• 18:10
  home against the bullets.
• 18:12
  November the 7th, a week later two weeks
• 18:16
  later even,
• 18:18
  they're away at Notts County.
• 18:20
  November the 15th, the following week,
• 18:24
  they're back home against Dover.
• 18:27
  November the 22nd, the next week, it's
• 18:31
  Wrexham at home and then they've got
• 18:34
  Dover again before Christmas.
• 18:37
  >> Oh.
• 18:38
  >> We're talking about coaching staff
• 18:40
  having to race against the clock to get
• 18:42
  these guys ready.
• 18:43
  >> Mhm.
• 18:44
  >> Is that about as tough as it gets?
• 18:49
  >> Uh I'd personally say so, but then
• 18:51
  again, everyone loves an underdog, you
• 18:53
  know,
• 18:53
  it's theirs to win. If if they just lock
• 18:56
  in, you know,
• 18:58
  it's it's going to be
• 18:59
  a tough couple months, but
• 19:02
  you can't say they won't do well. It's
• 19:05
  it's um
• 19:06
  that'll be a very interesting few months
• 19:09
  yeah,
• 19:10
  for them.
• 19:12
  >> Realistically, though, are we thinking?
• 19:13
  That's That's five games before
• 19:16
  Christmas.
• 19:18
  Talk to me in record. What What would be
• 19:20
  a good opening five for Brunel?
• 19:23
  >> Undefeated.
• 19:27
  >> Way to set the bar there, Shiv.
• 19:32
  >> Um
• 19:35
  it's hard to speak on their behalf,
• 19:37
  isn't it? I'm sure the coaches have got
• 19:39
  ideals of what a successful season looks
• 19:42
  like. Well, none of us on the outside
• 19:44
  will know that.
• 19:46
  I think if they can win
• 19:49
  I think if they can win more than they
• 19:50
  lose,
• 19:52
  that would be a very good record over
• 19:54
  those five games. I think if they could
• 19:55
  find three wins in and amongst that,
• 19:58
  that would be good going. But, you think
• 20:01
  Would they be happy with two as well? I
• 20:03
  think maybe.
• 20:05
  Um
• 20:07
  it's hard You don't want to talk You
• 20:09
  don't want to talk from a perspective of
• 20:11
  teams if they've got higher
• 20:13
  expectations than maybe us on the
• 20:15
  outside do cuz I mean, ultimately, we're
• 20:17
  all speculating. We're not experts on
• 20:19
  this show. We're just of and from the
• 20:21
  community.
• 20:22
  Uh
• 20:24
  two Call it two or three wins, I think
• 20:26
  they'd be pretty happy with.
• 20:29
  >> Yeah, I
• 20:30
  Um
• 20:32
  somebody's inevitably going to jump in
• 20:33
  the comments and tell me that I'm wrong,
• 20:36
  but I don't think anybody's ever been
• 20:38
  relegated from the top flight of Uniball
• 20:40
  with more than two win with more than
• 20:43
  two
• 20:45
  two wins on the record.
• 20:46
  >> Mhm.
• 20:47
  >> Yeah, if they go in at Christmas, two
• 20:49
  and three
• 20:50
  in terms of staying at that level,
• 20:52
  building a program,
• 20:54
  I I think that's it for me. Um We've had
• 20:57
  a comment come through, Joe, from a
• 21:00
  Thomas Kearns on Facebook.
• 21:03
  >> Oh.
• 21:04
  >> Never retire, Welsh Joe. Camera work is
• 21:07
  top-notch.
• 21:08
  Um
• 21:10
  Is this Is there some background to that
• 21:11
  that the audience should be
• 21:14
  >> Uh
• 21:15
  Tom Kearns is one of the biggest bullies
• 21:17
  in brick ball. Um he's been relentless
• 21:20
  in his sort of nasty comments about me
• 21:23
  for the last few months and I've never
• 21:24
  sort of retaliated or done anything back
• 21:26
  to him.
• 21:27
  Um
• 21:28
  No, he's brilliant. He's a great guy.
• 21:34
  Really has a
• 21:35
  >> You know what that Joe
• 21:37
  >> No, um it's quite nice to see him his
• 21:40
  big age being up past his bedtime. So,
• 21:42
  thank you for chipping in Kearnsy. Um
• 21:45
  especially quack yeah, that's it. That's
• 21:47
  him.
• 21:48
  Um big fan of a duck pond is Thomas
• 21:50
  Kearns.
• 21:52
  Um
• 21:54
  legend of a bloke yeah. So, thanks.
• 21:55
  We've got an international viewer tuning
• 21:57
  in from Jamaica. So, thank you very much
• 21:59
  Kearnsy.
• 22:03
  >> I don't even know what to say to any
• 22:05
  >> No, it's like it's just the worst
• 22:07
  possible person to chip in. It's like
• 22:09
  everywhere I go he just seems to appear.
• 22:12
  >> It's just your fans. That's what it is.
• 22:15
  >> Oh,
• 22:15
  is that what we call him?
• 22:18
  >> Well, in the break in
• 22:22
  making sense
• 22:24
  I think it's a good point to take us to
• 22:25
  the whiteboard for a
• 22:27
  icebreaker. And for anybody joining us
• 22:29
  the first for the first time, this is a
• 22:31
  little segment that we've put involved
• 22:33
  so that you guys can get to know us and
• 22:35
  we can get to know you. So, please play
• 22:36
  along, comment your answers at the
• 22:38
  bottom and we'll read out as many as we
• 22:39
  physically can. So, Shiv over to you.
• 22:43
  >> Right, so um
• 22:44
  this is uh
• 22:46
  You know, this is
• 22:48
  forget what I'm about to say. If you
• 22:49
  could only have one of these three, an
• 22:52
  elite a quarterback, an elite defense,
• 22:55
  or an elite O-line, what would you have?
• 22:57
  And um
• 22:59
  what would get you the win of Bucks.
• 23:05
  >> Defense wins championships, isn't it?
• 23:08
  Um
• 23:10
  Yeah, it's got to be on it. Um
• 23:14
  I I was thinking about this in the week
• 23:16
  when you sent them through.
• 23:18
  It I know an elite O line is absolutely
• 23:20
  solid for your offense. If you've got an
• 23:22
  O line, you've got the time and space to
• 23:24
  be able to do all sorts. Like you can
• 23:25
  expand your playbook so much just
• 23:27
  because you know you can sort of set the
• 23:29
  time to do what you want. An elite QB
• 23:32
  helps you get points on the board, make
• 23:34
  great passes.
• 23:35
  Great scoring points again. I think the
• 23:38
  thing with an elite defense that sets
• 23:40
  them apart is the ability to prevent
• 23:43
  other teams from scoring, but then also
• 23:45
  with picks and stuff they can get you
• 23:46
  good field position and get points as
• 23:48
  well.
• 23:49
  So I think just having that double edge
• 23:51
  of an elite defense kind of edges it
• 23:54
  over offense.
• 23:56
  And for somebody who's played offense my
• 23:58
  like entire football career, it's quite
• 24:01
  a hard thing to say, but I I'd I'd take
• 24:04
  the elite defense, I think.
• 24:06
  >> Yeah, let's let's just slow down and put
• 24:08
  it in puts it in an NFL term for a
• 24:11
  minute just for people joining us for
• 24:14
  the first time who might not be too
• 24:16
  versed in Britball as of yet.
• 24:20
  Elite quarterback, no defense. We've all
• 24:23
  watched the Bengals
• 24:24
  for the last few years. You know, it
• 24:27
  doesn't matter if you've got a guy that
• 24:28
  can spray the ball wherever he wants and
• 24:31
  you'll score 54 points a game
• 24:33
  because your opposition will find a way
• 24:35
  to score 56 more often than not.
• 24:38
  Um
• 24:39
  the O line, you can control the pace.
• 24:42
  You can push the tempo. You'll probably
• 24:44
  win on special teams more often than not
• 24:47
  if you're protecting at the line as
• 24:48
  well.
• 24:51
  But in terms of Britball, in terms of
• 24:54
  what we do at the Bucks level,
• 24:58
  a 3-0 win is a win.
• 25:02
  >> Yeah.
• 25:03
  >> Um
• 25:04
  I'm going to be biased here.
• 25:07
  I'm going to
• 25:08
  I'm going to say O-line. You know, it's
• 25:10
  they're they're the backbones of um
• 25:12
  Bucks, I think, of Uni Ball. You like
• 25:15
  you said, someday they control the pace
• 25:16
  of the game. Without a good O-line,
• 25:18
  you're not going to get any wins, you
• 25:19
  know? And um
• 25:21
  also I have to say O-line is it's it's
• 25:23
  it's just a given, do you know what I
• 25:24
  mean? But yeah, I'd say O-line.
• 25:30
  >> We'll go with that. Let's take that
• 25:31
  logic
• 25:34
  back up here.
• 25:37
  So,
• 25:39
  Durham,
• 25:40
  UWE,
• 25:42
  Brunel are the teams that will almost
• 25:44
  certainly have
• 25:46
  American quarterbacks in. They've got
• 25:48
  that quality.
• 25:50
  All five teams
• 25:54
  will do well on the offensive line.
• 25:57
  That's purely because of coaching and
• 25:59
  the system and everything we've talked
• 26:01
  about up to this point.
• 26:04
  What defense do you are you more excited
• 26:06
  to watch?
• 26:14
  >> Well, I don't know.
• 26:17
  Um I'm going to say uh Nottingham Gold
• 26:20
  based on the amount of depth they've
• 26:22
  got.
• 26:23
  >> Mhm.
• 26:23
  >> You know, they've got so many players.
• 26:25
  Like they they've got three teams now in
• 26:27
  this upcoming season.
• 26:28
  It's going to be interesting how many
• 26:31
  play hit players that they've got, you
• 26:33
  know, talented players.
• 26:35
  They're bound to have
• 26:37
  a great defense, a great offense, but um
• 26:40
  I think yeah, uh Gold I think will have
• 26:42
  a really good defense. I think they will
• 26:44
  be the defense of the season. Um
• 26:47
  National League season, anyway.
• 26:48
  >> Okay. Joe?
• 26:51
  >> Um I'm going to buck the trend a little
• 26:53
  bit here. We keep talking about the
• 26:54
  offenses and the elite quarterbacks of
• 26:57
  all of these. So, the team that's going
• 26:59
  to go up against all of these is going
• 27:00
  to be Loughborough.
• 27:02
  I think that they're sort of in the
• 27:03
  conversation we've had up to now,
• 27:05
  they're the team that we've not we've
• 27:06
  spoken about the least. So, I think
• 27:08
  it'll be interesting to see what their
• 27:10
  defense can put out this year because I
• 27:12
  think on the scope of it and the way
• 27:14
  that a lot of us are looking at the way
• 27:16
  this league is going to shape up, they
• 27:17
  survived last year
• 27:19
  and they'll be looking to sort of
• 27:21
  survive and sort of go a step further
• 27:22
  this year and it's got to come from
• 27:24
  their defense more than anything. So, I
• 27:26
  think I'm quite interested to see how
• 27:28
  they hold up against these kind of
• 27:31
  elite teams at this level and see if
• 27:34
  that defense again is enough to if not
• 27:36
  win a championship, but at least stay in
• 27:38
  the top division.
• 27:40
  >> Yeah, Joe, you and I are on exactly the
• 27:42
  same page about that, I'm afraid. Um,
• 27:44
  thinking back to the year Loughborough
• 27:46
  got promoted up to the top flight. Um,
• 27:50
  their identity felt about how well
• 27:54
  organized they were.
• 27:56
  They
• 27:57
  dominated the clock on offense by
• 27:59
  trusting their offensive line,
• 28:01
  everything we've just talked about, but
• 28:03
  then on defense it was
• 28:05
  you
• 28:06
  you would be hard-pressed to find a
• 28:08
  moment where somebody was out of
• 28:09
  position or blew an assignment and they
• 28:12
  were able to get after the passer and
• 28:15
  if they can get back to that identity
• 28:18
  having survived last year at the expense
• 28:21
  of Leeds Beckett.
• 28:22
  >> Mhm.
• 28:23
  >> Yeah, Loughborough are going to be a
• 28:25
  exciting team to watch.
• 28:27
  >> They've got a huge athletic population
• 28:29
  as well. Like
• 28:30
  a lot of most of people there playing
• 28:32
  for you know, the team, they will be
• 28:34
  studying some sort of sport kind of
• 28:37
  related subjects as well and um
• 28:39
  >> Mhm.
• 28:40
  >> They they they they they they
• 28:41
  they're known for how
• 28:43
  physical they are as well. Do you know
• 28:45
  what I mean? So, um
• 28:46
  yeah, I get what you guys are saying.
• 28:49
  >> Yeah, totally.
• 28:51
  Let right. So, obviously we've spent a
• 28:53
  little bit
• 28:55
  possibly too much time on the National
• 28:56
  League, but it is the absolute pinnacle
• 28:59
  of British Universities American
• 29:01
  Football. So, I've just got one more
• 29:03
  question.
• 29:05
  Two more questions for both of you and
• 29:07
  then we'll move on.
• 29:09
  What two teams are in your final and who
• 29:12
  do you think is taking the trophy home?
• 29:16
  >> Uh I think it's going to be again. It's
• 29:18
  such a cop-out, but
• 29:20
  Durham against UEA. Like
• 29:23
  I've got this funny bit belly feeling
• 29:24
  that they're going to
• 29:27
  they're going to dominate this league
• 29:28
  and
• 29:29
  I do think Durham will go away with the
• 29:31
  win.
• 29:33
  >> Joe?
• 29:34
  >> Uh yeah, again, I think it'll probably
• 29:37
  be Durham UEA and I think the winner
• 29:42
  head says UEA, heart says Durham.
• 29:47
  I'd love to see them retain. I really
• 29:48
  would.
• 29:49
  >> Yeah.
• 29:50
  I'm I'm going to zag a bit here.
• 29:53
  Um
• 29:55
  again, UEA will be in my final.
• 29:59
  I'm predicting a bit of a resurgence
• 30:01
  from the Nottingham Gold.
• 30:03
  Um
• 30:05
  Josh Lockwood
• 30:06
  played for the the Nottingham
• 30:09
  quarterback played for the Rushmore
• 30:11
  Knights this year in the Prem South in
• 30:14
  the Summer Bowl.
• 30:16
  And
• 30:17
  from everything I'm hearing, he has come
• 30:19
  on leaps and bounds in and amongst a
• 30:22
  really tough season for Rushmore. So,
• 30:26
  shout out to Josh Lockwood down there in
• 30:29
  Surrey right now. Um
• 30:32
  I reckon we will see Nottingham Gold up
• 30:34
  there and whenever we've seen UEA and
• 30:37
  Nottingham Gold in a final,
• 30:39
  yes, UEA have come out on top more often
• 30:41
  than not, but the final itself has been
• 30:43
  a bit of a coin toss.
• 30:44
  >> Mhm.
• 30:47
  But,
• 30:49
  let's move on
• 30:54
  and towards the Premier North, the
• 30:57
  second tier, as it were, of
• 31:01
  British Universities American Football.
• 31:04
  We've got Leeds Beckett who are coming
• 31:06
  down from the National Division. We've
• 31:08
  got the Lancashire Rams coming up from
• 31:11
  Division 1. The Newcastle Derby in the
• 31:13
  Newcastle Raiders and the Northumbria
• 31:15
  Mustangs, and the Nottingham Trent
• 31:18
  Renegades.
• 31:20
  Again, boys, let's start at the top.
• 31:22
  What's jumping out at you off the page
• 31:24
  there?
• 31:25
  >> The Lancashire Rams. They
• 31:27
  obviously they got promoted, but that
• 31:29
  season last year, you know, 8-0.
• 31:32
  That's hard to ignore. And um
• 31:36
  I think they're going to come into
• 31:37
  Premier North with the exact same
• 31:38
  motivation, exact same, you know,
• 31:42
  determination to win that again, get
• 31:44
  that 8-0 again. Like, fair enough,
• 31:46
  they've not had that experience against
• 31:48
  Premier North the Premier League level
• 31:51
  UniBall, but I don't think that matters
• 31:53
  to them
• 31:54
  at all.
• 31:55
  You know, like I said, that 8-0 um
• 31:57
  season will
• 31:59
  will help massively with their mentality
• 32:02
  coming into this new league.
• 32:04
  >> Yeah.
• 32:05
  Joe?
• 32:06
  >> Yeah, call it a Lancashire bias. Um
• 32:09
  I think I said on the first show when we
• 32:10
  went through this the first time round
• 32:11
  that I I'm really looking forward to
• 32:14
  seeing how they settle at this level.
• 32:17
  They've proven at Div 1 for the last few
• 32:20
  years really that they would were able
• 32:22
  to be in and amongst it,
• 32:24
  but couldn't quite get up.
• 32:26
  They
• 32:28
  really look They look like a
• 32:29
  professional unit in that they've looked
• 32:32
  above the standard of other teams at Div
• 32:34
  1, just the way that they operate, their
• 32:36
  social media, the way that they market
• 32:39
  themselves, the way they're able to
• 32:40
  bring in players on sort of scholarship,
• 32:42
  and bring in players who are involved in
• 32:46
  Brit ball at other levels in the north.
• 32:49
  I think that it's been long overdue
• 32:51
  really to see them at this point, and I
• 32:54
  think that they'll settle quite well in
• 32:55
  this league.
• 32:58
  Leeds as well, I think it's a bit of a
• 33:00
  surprise to a lot of people to see them
• 33:01
  here.
• 33:03
  Can see them being super competitive.
• 33:05
  They'll bounce have a bit of a chip on
• 33:06
  the shoulder after last year and the way
• 33:08
  that that went.
• 33:11
  It's just a really fun division, isn't
• 33:12
  it? Everywhere you look at this one,
• 33:14
  you've like got like you say, the
• 33:16
  Newcastle rivalry going on there, NTU
• 33:19
  are decent.
• 33:20
  It's just a super fun division. It's
• 33:23
  there's not a hair's breadth between a
• 33:24
  lot of the clubs here.
• 33:26
  >> Yeah, it's
• 33:28
  totally right. This really does feel
• 33:30
  like a division where anybody can beat
• 33:32
  anybody on any given Sunday.
• 33:35
  >> Yeah.
• 33:36
  Just want to go back to the Lancashire
• 33:37
  Rams cuz they're in a really interesting
• 33:39
  position. Obviously, they've just come
• 33:40
  up
• 33:42
  off back of an undefeated season.
• 33:45
  Joining an Northumberland Mustangs team
• 33:47
  who prevented them getting promoted the
• 33:50
  year before.
• 33:52
  During last season, they lost their
• 33:54
  starting quarterback, Charlie Martin, to
• 33:57
  an injury.
• 33:58
  George Hatfield stepped in and did a
• 34:01
  incredible job
• 34:03
  marshalling them through to the final.
• 34:06
  Um
• 34:07
  They've lost both of those guys through
• 34:09
  graduation and aging out. I believe
• 34:12
  Hatfield will be playing at the
• 34:14
  University of Birmingham Lions. I I
• 34:17
  think I've seen that. Um but again, in
• 34:20
  terms of
• 34:22
  recruitment and what you were saying,
• 34:23
  Joe, they've had a commitment from
• 34:26
  Bobby Bridges, the one of the
• 34:28
  quarterbacks who's been attached to the
• 34:30
  NFL Academy. So,
• 34:32
  do you reckon they're going to take a
• 34:34
  step back getting a new quarterback on
• 34:36
  board or are they just going to hit
• 34:37
  stride?
• 34:40
  >> I think they're going to hit stride. I
• 34:41
  really do. We talked a minute ago about
• 34:43
  the ability to raise the floor of the
• 34:47
  entire unit and I think that's something
• 34:49
  Lancashire have proven in recent years
• 34:50
  that they're really good at. Um I think
• 34:53
  to a level they've got a great standard
• 34:54
  at the club. I think they will carry
• 34:57
  that over and then like you say the NFL
• 34:59
  Academy quarterback they're bringing in
• 35:01
  I think the the transition to this level
• 35:04
  of football will be quite
• 35:05
  straightforward. I don't think there'll
• 35:06
  be much of an embedding period. Well,
• 35:08
  it'll take time to settle in and I can
• 35:10
  see them hitting stride quite quickly.
• 35:12
  >> Yeah.
• 35:13
  Um
• 35:14
  I do want to just
• 35:17
  jump down to the third and fourth team
• 35:19
  on the list, the Newcastle Raiders and
• 35:20
  the Northumbria Mustangs.
• 35:22
  Um
• 35:23
  both of you guys with being involved
• 35:25
  with Bangor are also involved in a
• 35:27
  pretty heated Britball rivalry. Um
• 35:31
  talk to me about what those rivalry
• 35:33
  games do to a team and yeah, is it the
• 35:35
  fixture you circle on the calendar?
• 35:38
  Talk to me about how you approach that.
• 35:40
  Does it make the division different for
• 35:41
  those two teams?
• 35:43
  >> Uh I've
• 35:45
  for sure. Like um I know we're not on it
• 35:47
  yet but the same with um
• 35:49
  same with Leicester. You know, that that
• 35:51
  sort of that rivalry when you're in the
• 35:53
  same league you you you've got your
• 35:54
  varsity and everything but
• 35:57
  when you're in the same league you're
• 35:58
  you're just going to want to get that
• 36:00
  win. You're not playing for points.
• 36:01
  You're you're playing for that
• 36:03
  for that um what's the word?
• 36:05
  Just bragging rights really. Do you know
• 36:07
  what I mean? If they're going to um
• 36:09
  that's going to be such a fun game to
• 36:10
  watch. They're going to go in with a lot
• 36:11
  of heat, a lot of um
• 36:13
  a lot of um
• 36:15
  motivation and
• 36:17
  when you've got that rivalry it just
• 36:19
  make every single point is like
• 36:22
  is so important. Every single fumble so
• 36:24
  important. Every every single minute is
• 36:27
  in that those games. So, um and you you
• 36:30
  just know they're going to It's
• 36:31
  they're going to put all their whole
• 36:33
  body on the line. They're going to put
• 36:34
  all in to those
• 36:38
  >> Yeah.
• 36:39
  Joe, from you?
• 36:41
  >> Yeah, they're the kind of games that
• 36:42
  bring something different out of you as
• 36:44
  a player, aren't they?
• 36:46
  Um as a player, as a coach, as a fan, I
• 36:49
  think you you go into almost every game
• 36:52
  try to committed to the idea of giving
• 36:54
  100% of everything you've got.
• 36:56
  But then when you get this reason to go
• 36:57
  up against somebody that you I mean
• 37:01
  far from me to talk on their behalf, but
• 37:03
  to go up against a club that you
• 37:04
  actively dislike or that you have a
• 37:06
  heavy rivalry with,
• 37:08
  you somehow develop this extra 10% from
• 37:10
  somewhere that you didn't know that was
• 37:11
  there.
• 37:12
  I think they're the kind of games where
• 37:14
  the form table just goes completely out
• 37:16
  the window. It could be that one of the
• 37:18
  two teams is flying high, the other one
• 37:20
  is struggling. You come into this kind
• 37:22
  of a game and it just gets flipped on
• 37:23
  its head purely because
• 37:26
  the team that's struggling is suddenly
• 37:28
  just everything clicks for them on the
• 37:30
  day.
• 37:31
  And I don't know if that's a good thing
• 37:33
  or a bad thing for the two clubs because
• 37:35
  it introduces an element of chaos
• 37:38
  to those games that the rest of the
• 37:40
  teams in the league don't necessarily
• 37:42
  have.
• 37:43
  Um you definitely look forward to it,
• 37:46
  but I think for a team that might have
• 37:49
  Do you know what? No. I'll go against
• 37:51
  it. You do look forward to it. I mean,
• 37:53
  you take That's what you play for, isn't
• 37:55
  it? They're the big risk games. Big
• 37:57
  risk, big reward. If you're the kind of
• 37:59
  club that's not up for that, then you're
• 38:00
  probably not going to win it. So, yeah,
• 38:03
  it just
• 38:04
  great for the two of them to have each
• 38:05
  other there.
• 38:07
  >> Yeah.
• 38:07
  Um
• 38:08
  spoilers, that's my answer to the next
• 38:11
  question, but
• 38:13
  give me a match up you're looking
• 38:14
  forward to.
• 38:15
  What What's jumping off the page? What
• 38:16
  are we circling in the calendar? What
• 38:18
  game are we trying to get up for?
• 38:20
  >> I think we're all going to be in
• 38:21
  agreement on this one. I think that that
• 38:24
  Derby
• 38:25
  I think it will be on most people's most
• 38:27
  anticipated game of the season.
• 38:30
  Definitely.
• 38:33
  >> All agree, Joe?
• 38:34
  >> Yeah, anything for a Derby game, isn't
• 38:36
  it?
• 38:37
  >> Yeah.
• 38:38
  But that being said, again, what again
• 38:41
  with what you said with Brunel,
• 38:43
  um
• 38:44
  I don't know who off the top of my head
• 38:45
  I don't know who Leeds Beckett have
• 38:47
  first,
• 38:48
  but I'm excited for that first game.
• 38:50
  It's a team that's not won in a while.
• 38:53
  It's a team that's
• 38:55
  you know, they've invited the
• 38:57
  possibility of collapsing here.
• 39:01
  But if they can turn it around, if they
• 39:02
  can get a good win week one against
• 39:04
  whoever that may be,
• 39:06
  you know, who's going to count them out
• 39:08
  going straight back up? We've seen Leeds
• 39:10
  Beckett be
• 39:12
  really really competitive. You know, I
• 39:14
  remember them watching them win the
• 39:15
  title all those years ago.
• 39:20
  But that being said,
• 39:23
  who is going to win it?
• 39:24
  Who's going to go up? Who's going to be
• 39:26
  representing the Prem North in the
• 39:28
  Premiership final?
• 39:30
  >> I think it's between the Rams or
• 39:33
  um Notts Trent.
• 39:34
  You know, Notts Trent they're they're
• 39:35
  always going to be quite a
• 39:37
  like a game you're going to want to be
• 39:40
  ready for, you know, and
• 39:42
  they're strong team, very very strong
• 39:43
  team. Um
• 39:45
  but then again, Lancashire's season it's
• 39:48
  it's between those two. I can't I can't
• 39:50
  tell you which, but it is between one of
• 39:52
  those.
• 39:53
  >> Is that just because you want to watch a
• 39:55
  Nottingham Derby in the
• 39:57
  at the top division, Shiv?
• 39:59
  >> Yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's like I know
• 40:01
  this is um Prem North, but I've got that
• 40:03
  Midlands bias, you know.
• 40:06
  I know a few people on the team uh
• 40:08
  I've Yeah, Notts Trent. I think I think
• 40:10
  they've won it. There you go.
• 40:12
  >> Joe, for you?
• 40:14
  >> I've I've back and forth on this one all
• 40:16
  week trying to think about where I think
• 40:19
  it'll land. Like I said, there's there's
• 40:20
  so little between most of the teams in
• 40:23
  this division.
• 40:25
  It is great, isn't it? Sitting here in
• 40:26
  August, teams haven't even got back to
• 40:29
  university. Most of the people in this
• 40:31
  will be working summer jobs in cafes,
• 40:34
  um
• 40:34
  Amazon warehouses packing boxes, and
• 40:36
  we're sat here making predictions for
• 40:38
  next March already.
• 40:40
  Um
• 40:42
  Any league is difficult. This league is
• 40:44
  particularly difficult.
• 40:46
  I'm sat here in a Lancashire. I'm sat
• 40:48
  here in a Lancashire top, having Raptors
• 40:50
  winning
• 40:52
  the north today in Div 2, I'm going to
• 40:54
  have to I'm going to have to lean
• 40:55
  towards UClan. I've got to, or U Lan.
• 40:58
  I'm going to have to lean towards U Lan
• 40:59
  in this one.
• 41:01
  >> Yeah.
• 41:02
  We had a comment pop up on
• 41:05
  YouTube
• 41:07
  um from a
• 41:10
  Nate
• 41:12
  I'm not even going to attempt to say the
• 41:15
  word that comes after Nate there.
• 41:17
  >> Um Bassiouny.
• 41:19
  >> I'll go with that.
• 41:21
  >> Sorry Nate if I butchered that.
• 41:23
  >> But that's what that's what it comes
• 41:24
  back to for me.
• 41:26
  U Lan have recruited so well. And we've
• 41:31
  talked
• 41:32
  when we were talking about the Premier
• 41:33
  North Premier National Division, we were
• 41:36
  talking about the coaching staff and the
• 41:38
  commitment to the team from the wider
• 41:41
  Britball community.
• 41:42
  >> Um
• 41:44
  >> And U Lan are propped up by the
• 41:46
  Manchester Titans, and
• 41:49
  they're not shy of it, they nor should
• 41:51
  they be. It's an exciting partnership
• 41:53
  for Britball.
• 41:55
  And
• 41:56
  you know, the Titans love winning.
• 41:58
  Titans coaches and players and everybody
• 42:00
  who's involved, they love winning, they
• 42:03
  know winning. Um
• 42:07
  Yeah, that's how it's falling for me as
• 42:08
  well.
• 42:10
  But onto the other side of it, onto
• 42:13
  other teams who also love winning or
• 42:16
  they wouldn't be at this level, into the
• 42:18
  Premiership South with the Bournemouth
• 42:20
  Bobcats who beat the U LAN in the Div 1
• 42:23
  final, the Cardiff Cobras, the
• 42:25
  Portsmouth Destroyers, SGS Pride, and
• 42:28
  the Warwick Wolves who join the Prem
• 42:31
  South having been in the Prem North up
• 42:33
  till this point.
• 42:36
  Boys, what's jumping off the page for
• 42:37
  you there?
• 42:44
  >> If we're going to sit here and wax
• 42:45
  lyrical
• 42:47
  about the University of Lancashire and
• 42:48
  everything that they've done, I think
• 42:50
  that it the natural place to segue into
• 42:53
  would be to talk about the Bournemouth
• 42:55
  Bobcats who beat them in the final last
• 42:57
  year.
• 42:58
  I think I'm pretty right in saying.
• 43:00
  Um
• 43:02
  they've got to be looking at this
• 43:05
  as one of the teams that are going to be
• 43:06
  in and amongst it again. Sometimes it's
• 43:08
  difficult to make the jump up from a
• 43:10
  division below. Um your big games at the
• 43:13
  end of the year
• 43:15
  tend to be the standard of every single
• 43:18
  game that you play when you go up a
• 43:19
  division. Some teams relish that, some
• 43:22
  teams absolutely crumble. I think
• 43:24
  they're going to have a big eye really
• 43:26
  on Bournemouth this year and see what
• 43:27
  they're doing. But SGS as well, I fancy.
• 43:30
  I think
• 43:32
  I I can really see SGS having some
• 43:34
  carryover.
• 43:35
  Um
• 43:38
  yeah, it it's a it's a good division,
• 43:39
  isn't it? Cardiff, I know have been in
• 43:41
  and amongst it for a little while. Um
• 43:44
  Welsh,
• 43:46
  that goes for them always.
• 43:49
  I know this bit of we talked about this
• 43:51
  last time that how far does Cardiff's
• 43:53
  momentum carry them? And I think that
• 43:55
  we've spoken again, we're going to come
• 43:57
  back to it, this ability to raise the
• 43:59
  floor. They've got good coaches, they've
• 44:00
  got a good setup.
• 44:02
  Um
• 44:03
  I'd love to see them do well as well.
• 44:05
  It's another tight division, isn't
• 44:07
  really? It's super like
• 44:09
  we're sat here again in August trying to
• 44:12
  split the hair on things that are going
• 44:13
  to be played out in 3 months time from
• 44:15
  now. We're probably going to get
• 44:16
  clipped. And
• 44:18
  people's Instagram, you know.
• 44:20
  Yeah, when we get the first result goes
• 44:22
  against what we've said back in August,
• 44:24
  they're going to be sat here with egg on
• 44:26
  our faces.
• 44:27
  Um
• 44:28
  But yeah, I think I'm looking forward to
• 44:30
  seeing how Bournemouth get on. They've
• 44:31
  shown that they're a really strong team.
• 44:34
  Um I think they'll have more than enough
• 44:35
  carryover to keep that going again this
• 44:38
  season.
• 44:39
  >> Yeah, we've
• 44:42
  we've spoken a lot about coaching so far
• 44:44
  this episode. And I think we'd be amiss
• 44:47
  if we didn't point out, you know,
• 44:49
  Bournemouth Bobcats are being led out by
• 44:52
  head coach Steve Reigns, a guy who has
• 44:54
  been
• 44:55
  involved in Britball and has seen
• 44:57
  everything and I'm pretty sure won
• 44:59
  everything in Britball
• 45:02
  before Shiv learned how to write.
• 45:06
  >> Before last year.
• 45:09
  >> Right.
• 45:12
  From a coach, that's a low blow, my
• 45:14
  friend.
• 45:14
  >> Yeah, no, I'll keep you that. I'm going
• 45:16
  to remember that, by the way.
• 45:18
  >> I'm going to get top blocked at
• 45:19
  training.
• 45:20
  >> Yeah, I know.
• 45:22
  It'll come. It'll come.
• 45:24
  >> What are you thinking about this one
• 45:25
  then, Shiv?
• 45:26
  >> I think Aztecs for me is standing out
• 45:29
  the most, you know.
• 45:30
  Their biggest obstacle was Bruno
• 45:32
  last season and Bruno gone and
• 45:35
  they don't
• 45:37
  I mean,
• 45:38
  not to say the other teams I I don't
• 45:39
  think they should be worried about the
• 45:40
  other teams. They proved last season how
• 45:42
  good they are.
• 45:43
  It's theirs to win again, like I said,
• 45:45
  but then um
• 45:47
  I think it'll be interesting interesting
• 45:48
  to see how
• 45:50
  um Bournemouth do. You know, they they
• 45:52
  dominated Div 1 last season, but
• 45:55
  I think it unlike the Rams uh
• 45:57
  I think they'll struggle a bit
• 45:59
  in Prem South. You know, they've
• 46:02
  not had that experience and
• 46:05
  you know, playing against those strong
• 46:07
  teams, it'll um
• 46:09
  it'll is is going to be one of those
• 46:10
  cases where the first two games will I
• 46:13
  think will dictate how the rest of their
• 46:14
  season will go. So, um
• 46:17
  yeah, no, it's um
• 46:20
  yeah, it'll be interesting to see and
• 46:21
  then um
• 46:22
  the Cardiff Cobras
• 46:24
  um
• 46:25
  I think their biggest weakness is a
• 46:28
  consistency.
• 46:29
  They um
• 46:31
  I'll I'll just I've got my my stats
• 46:32
  here. They they lost 47-8 to Brunel, you
• 46:36
  know, losing 46-2 SGS. That will be a
• 46:38
  fun game to watch actually, Cardiff and
• 46:40
  SGS having that little rivalry there,
• 46:43
  but um
• 46:45
  I
• 46:45
  I think it's SGS to win. I think they've
• 46:48
  they've got it in the bag.
• 46:51
  >> Well, speaking of SGS, I just want to
• 46:55
  turn our minds back um
• 46:58
  a year and a half ago.
• 47:02
  Maybe longer than that. Um
• 47:04
  back when Warwick were in the
• 47:06
  Premiership North,
• 47:08
  we saw SGS and Warwick
• 47:11
  in the Vase final.
• 47:14
  Um SGS won that day 21-0
• 47:18
  and then declined the promotion and just
• 47:21
  sort of stranded Warwick feeling like
• 47:23
  they should have been allowed to go up.
• 47:26
  Is that a Is that a narrative? Is that
• 47:29
  something we'll play out? Is that going
• 47:30
  to become a bit of a unassuming odd
• 47:33
  rivalry between the Warwick guys?
• 47:36
  >> I think um for the audience who've heard
• 47:38
  it here first, we're making it a little
• 47:39
  narrative here just for
• 47:41
  just for the entertainment um factor. I
• 47:43
  think, yeah, no, that rivalry is crazy.
• 47:46
  Um
• 47:46
  I think um Warwick are going to go in
• 47:49
  with a um
• 47:51
  with a lot of What's the word? Not
• 47:53
  anger, but frustration and that'll play
• 47:55
  out when they
• 47:57
  get their hands on SGS.
• 48:01
  >> Well, again, I've told on myself. That's
• 48:05
  my That's my game of this division.
• 48:07
  That's the one I'll be circling in the
• 48:09
  calendar. What are you two looking at?
• 48:15
  >> Um
• 48:19
  Yeah, it's a big one, isn't it? It's a
• 48:20
  big one.
• 48:22
  Um
• 48:22
  like you say, it's not too distant
• 48:24
  history, really.
• 48:26
  They've not had much of a chance to have
• 48:28
  another bite at the apple after that. I
• 48:30
  think both of them, Warwick especially,
• 48:32
  will be having eyes on that one.
• 48:35
  Uh I'm looking forward to seeing Cardiff
• 48:37
  SGS.
• 48:39
  Um
• 48:40
  there's a lot of talk about Cardiff's
• 48:41
  consistency. I'm sure they are looking
• 48:45
  forward to really showing people up. And
• 48:48
  there's There's just been a lot of talk
• 48:50
  that they're going to run out of steam.
• 48:51
  They're going to run out of steam as if
• 48:52
  it's a given.
• 48:53
  I think for them to be able to pick
• 48:56
  themselves up against someone like SGS
• 48:58
  and prove that they can hang in with the
• 48:59
  big boys. Um
• 49:02
  I think I think that's the game for me.
• 49:05
  >> Yeah, top stuff, my Welsh.
• 49:07
  >> I think I think SGS and Bournemouth will
• 49:11
  be really interesting game.
• 49:13
  You know, with Bournemouth being really
• 49:14
  recently promoted and SGS being, I
• 49:17
  think, a lot of people's favorites.
• 49:19
  That'll be
• 49:21
  interesting to see if Bournemouth you
• 49:23
  know, can
• 49:24
  fight back against the people's
• 49:26
  favorites or if SGS just destroy them.
• 49:29
  But, um
• 49:30
  I think that'll be a very interesting
• 49:32
  game to watch.
• 49:33
  >> Hm. Well,
• 49:35
  that leads us on to the last question of
• 49:37
  the segment, well, second last question
• 49:39
  of the segment. Um
• 49:42
  Who's going to be representing the Prem
• 49:43
  South in the
• 49:45
  fast final?
• 49:47
  >> SGS for me.
• 49:50
  I think whenever we're going to talk
• 49:51
  about games and stuff, SGS will always
• 49:53
  be in the conversations therefore the
• 49:55
  most interesting game
• 49:57
  for anyone I think watching Premier
• 49:59
  South. So, I think yeah, they've got it.
• 50:01
  You know, they're a strong team and um
• 50:04
  but I could be wrong. Like I said, like
• 50:06
  you said, it's obvious, you know, it's 3
• 50:07
  months before the games have started.
• 50:09
  So, whatever we could be saying the
• 50:11
  complete opposite could be could happen,
• 50:13
  but um
• 50:14
  my prediction for now is SGS.
• 50:18
  >> Joe, yourself?
• 50:20
  >> Yeah,
• 50:21
  um
• 50:22
  I think I'm going to back Bournemouth
• 50:24
  again. I think I am. Like you said, the
• 50:25
  wealth of experience they've got in the
• 50:27
  coaching staff. We've waxed lyrical
• 50:29
  plenty about Uclan Ulan. They managed to
• 50:33
  get one over.
• 50:35
  We're looking at this. I I'm going to
• 50:37
  I'm going to give the props to
• 50:38
  Bournemouth and I'm going to fancy them
• 50:40
  for it.
• 50:41
  >> Okay. So,
• 50:43
  that leads us on to the
• 50:45
  next obvious question. Shiv, you've said
• 50:49
  that your Vase final is SGS Nottingham
• 50:51
  Trent.
• 50:53
  Who's going up?
• 50:56
  >> I've It's that Midlands bias again, I
• 50:58
  think. I've got to support Trent Trent,
• 51:01
  sorry. I've got to support Nottingham
• 51:03
  Trent in that.
• 51:04
  Um
• 51:05
  but that will be an incredible game. Uh
• 51:07
  it's going to be a a lot of points each,
• 51:10
  I reckon. I think it'll be very, very
• 51:11
  close.
• 51:12
  Um could even be like a touchdown to
• 51:15
  win. Do you know what I mean? I think
• 51:17
  it'll be a very, very close game.
• 51:19
  But yeah, Nottingham Trent Nottingham
• 51:21
  Trent for me.
• 51:22
  >> Fair. And Joe, you've said it'll be a
• 51:25
  rerun of the Div 1 final from last year,
• 51:28
  Bournemouth
• 51:29
  Ulan.
• 51:31
  Who's going up?
• 51:33
  >> I think Lancashire will prove like we
• 51:35
  like the YouTube comment said a minute
• 51:37
  ago, I think
• 51:39
  I think Lancashire have taken big steps
• 51:40
  up.
• 51:41
  Um or they seem to have done already. I
• 51:44
  think if it comes to it, I think they'll
• 51:45
  be out there to prove that they've taken
• 51:48
  that step up against the perfect
• 51:50
  opportunity for them to do that in
• 51:53
  as well. So, I'm going to I'm going to
• 51:54
  go with the Lancashire again.
• 51:56
  >> Yeah.
• 51:57
  I mean, I have agreed with you that
• 51:59
  Lancashire are going to be in that final
• 52:01
  for me. Um I think they've stepped up.
• 52:04
  They've done an incredible job
• 52:05
  recruiting.
• 52:07
  But,
• 52:08
  I just think a team like SGS is going to
• 52:11
  be too much for them in a final.
• 52:13
  Um
• 52:15
  Pains me with my northern bias, but
• 52:18
  I think I think the Pride will win this
• 52:21
  Premiership division. Whether they take
• 52:24
  the promotion or not is
• 52:26
  proving to be an entirely different
• 52:28
  question with them.
• 52:29
  >> Mhm.
• 52:30
  >> That's it for me. Boys, have you got
• 52:32
  anything else you want to talk about
• 52:34
  with the decisions before we head back
• 52:35
  to the whiteboard for a Shiv icebreaker
• 52:37
  to end the episode?
• 52:40
  >> Uh
• 52:41
  Joe?
• 52:42
  >> I'm I'm only here for the icebreaker, so
• 52:45
  let's crack on.
• 52:46
  >> Well, let's give the people what they
• 52:48
  want then.
• 52:49
  Shiv, over to you.
• 52:51
  >> Right, I'll give you guys a a choice. Do
• 52:53
  you want um A or B?
• 52:55
  Cuz I've got two.
• 52:56
  You want both? Okay.
• 52:57
  >> Let's do both, yeah.
• 52:58
  >> Okay, makes my job so much more
• 53:00
  difficult when I need more to be um
• 53:04
  Okay, so obviously last episode I had a
• 53:06
  bit of a mare
• 53:07
  with that icebreaker.
• 53:09
  Um so, following on from that, what is
• 53:12
  one rule you would change or add to the
• 53:14
  game?
• 53:16
  >> Ooh. I actually have a proper answer for
• 53:18
  this.
• 53:19
  >> Okay.
• 53:20
  >> Right.
• 53:22
  We've all sat and watched bits of the
• 53:26
  disaster pretty disastrous um Arena
• 53:29
  League situation that's happened this
• 53:32
  summer. Um but, one bit of Arena League
• 53:36
  makes me really excited to watch
• 53:38
  offensive football.
• 53:39
  They can approach Offensive players can
• 53:42
  approach the line of scrimmage in
• 53:43
  motion.
• 53:45
  They can start receivers 5 yards back
• 53:47
  and have them have a running start on a
• 53:49
  route. And I just think that's magic.
• 53:56
  >> Oh, that's a good one.
• 53:59
  That is a good one.
• 54:01
  Yeah. I mean, there's got to open that
• 54:03
  it there had to be one positive from the
• 54:04
  Arena Leagues, didn't there? So, I'm
• 54:06
  glad that we've ended up with one at
• 54:07
  least.
• 54:08
  Um when we see all those photos and
• 54:11
  clips of like the turf coming up during
• 54:13
  games,
• 54:16
  what a mess. But, yeah, that's a cool
• 54:18
  rule.
• 54:19
  Uh
• 54:19
  I think I don't know. Am I just going to
• 54:21
  lean towards
• 54:24
  Am I going to lean towards being boring
• 54:26
  and go with the obvious ones of saying
• 54:28
  like
• 54:30
  remove the ban on celebrate touchdown
• 54:33
  celebrations.
• 54:34
  Um
• 54:37
  I am I'm a big advocate for like look
• 54:39
  good, play good. So, I would probably
• 54:42
  lean towards my final decision being to
• 54:45
  lift the the long-awaited lift the ban
• 54:48
  on tinted visors.
• 54:51
  >> Yeah.
• 54:51
  >> That is that is the what the sport needs
• 54:53
  more than absolutely anything else is
• 54:56
  more tinted visors.
• 54:59
  >> Shiv, where do you stand on this? You
• 55:01
  wrote the question, so you must have had
• 55:02
  some in mind.
• 55:03
  >> Like I think everyone who knows me knows
• 55:06
  how badly I want to score a touchdown.
• 55:08
  I think give the O line a chance to take
• 55:11
  the ball. I don't know how you guys fit
• 55:12
  like whoever's in charge of the rules,
• 55:14
  they figure that out. But, let the O
• 55:16
  line get a touch on the ball like more
• 55:18
  than the center. Do you know what I
• 55:19
  mean?
• 55:20
  It's
• 55:21
  >> Hey.
• 55:22
  >> I'm going to start
• 55:22
  >> to I'm going to use this opportunity to
• 55:24
  give a shoutout to a Bangor alumni and
• 55:27
  Lancashire Buccaneer, Tom Jump, who
• 55:29
  plays tackle for us at Lancs. Today, we
• 55:32
  had a fumbled snap, which the defensive
• 55:35
  team then failed to recover, knocking
• 55:38
  the ball outside wide. So, Tom Champ
• 55:41
  picks the ball up and manages to pick up
• 55:42
  like a 12-yard run.
• 55:44
  It's the kind of excitement in Brit ball
• 55:47
  that you only get from an offensive
• 55:49
  lineman picking up a ball and just
• 55:51
  running with it. And it was like for
• 55:53
  that brief moment in time
• 55:55
  everybody was just seeing just the light
• 55:58
  this offensive tackle just running
• 56:00
  towards the end zone, getting as far as
• 56:02
  about 12 yards. But in itself, it was
• 56:04
  exciting. So, where there's a will,
• 56:06
  there's a way, and there's got to be
• 56:07
  hope for you in there, Shiv.
• 56:09
  >> I'm I'm not going to stop trying to get
• 56:11
  a little little play. I I don't get how
• 56:13
  it how I'm going to have to do it, but
• 56:16
  I I just want to get a touchdown.
• 56:19
  Well, while we're talking about
• 56:20
  offensive lineman and rules, before we
• 56:22
  get onto the second part of the
• 56:24
  icebreaker,
• 56:26
  I just want to check, are we
• 56:30
  pro or against the tush push in this
• 56:33
  room?
• 56:36
  All right. For just, you know, just to
• 56:38
  explain to the audience members who
• 56:39
  don't know what that means, what's that
• 56:41
  mean?
• 56:42
  >> I'll leave that to the center, Shiv. I
• 56:43
  actually think that's your job to
• 56:45
  explain that one.
• 56:46
  >> Oh, is it? Um
• 56:49
  Could could you explain for us, please?
• 56:51
  >> Okay.
• 56:53
  It would be where the quarterback takes
• 56:54
  a snap from under center as a
• 56:56
  traditional quarterback sneak, but is
• 56:58
  then pushed from behind and aided across
• 57:01
  the line of scrimmage in a way that
• 57:03
  defensive players aren't allowed to be
• 57:06
  pushed across the line.
• 57:07
  >> Get that in the Bangor playbook right
• 57:09
  now. I love that.
• 57:10
  We got to get that.
• 57:12
  That's That's That's I'm definitely pro
• 57:14
  that.
• 57:18
  >> Um
• 57:19
  >> Actually, other NFL teams have tried to
• 57:22
  do something similar and failed to
• 57:24
  execute it, haven't they?
• 57:26
  It's a contentious play.
• 57:29
  The Eagles run it all the time.
• 57:32
  Teams don't really know how to stop it.
• 57:34
  I mean, it's it always picks up a yard
• 57:36
  or so. Never really seems to do much
• 57:38
  more than that. But, it's the kind of
• 57:41
  thing I wouldn't really want to see at
• 57:42
  this level cuz there's an awful lot of
• 57:43
  bodies on the line. I think the risk of
• 57:46
  injury is quite high. It's one thing for
• 57:48
  these multi-millionaire NFL players to
• 57:51
  take that risk upon themselves if they
• 57:52
  need a yard. But, I think it's the kind
• 57:54
  of unnecessary risk I don't really want
• 57:56
  to see in Britball and Uniball. For me.
• 57:59
  But, maybe that's because I'm an old man
• 58:00
  and I'm a bit boring.
• 58:02
  >> And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the
• 58:04
  answer of a coach with sore knees.
• 58:11
  But, anyway, Shiv, onto the second part
• 58:13
  of the icebreaker to end this episode.
• 58:15
  >> So, this is this is a bit more of a
• 58:17
  little fun one. So, um if you could pick
• 58:19
  any character, you know, from movie,
• 58:21
  book, TV show, any sort of universe to
• 58:25
  play in your position,
• 58:27
  who would you pick and why?
• 58:31
  >> Oh my goodness.
• 58:33
  >> There's a lot to pick from as well.
• 58:39
  >> Right.
• 58:40
  Running back for me, I'm going with the
• 58:44
  Juggernaut from X-Men.
• 58:47
  Um
• 58:48
  >> Just running through those players like
• 58:49
  they're like walls.
• 58:51
  >> Yeah, you know what? He's got magical
• 58:53
  powers. He's not a mutant, so I'm
• 58:56
  throwing that my Marvel knowledge in
• 58:57
  there.
• 58:58
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 58:58
  >> He's got He's some kind of a magical
• 59:00
  stone or something that gives him the
• 59:01
  power, but his whole thing is that he's
• 59:03
  unstoppable once he gains momentum. I
• 59:06
  mean, what more do you want from a
• 59:07
  running back, really?
• 59:09
  >> Yeah.
• 59:11
  I just wanted to interrupt. We've had a
• 59:12
  comment from Matteo
• 59:15
  um saying that Ron Burgundy would be a
• 59:19
  field goal kicker.
• 59:21
  Correct me if I'm wrong. That's what
• 59:22
  Theo does for the Bucks.
• 59:24
  >> What, Ron Burgundy from the Anchorman?
• 59:26
  >> Yeah.
• 59:27
  I think
• 59:29
  I think just to fact-check that Ron
• 59:31
  Burgundy doesn't do any kicking in
• 59:34
  Anchorman.
• 59:35
  The motorcyclist that he annoys in the
• 59:38
  road rage incident
• 59:40
  does pull off
• 59:43
  That's it. Does pull off quite a punt
• 59:47
  on the [ __ ] too or whatever type of dog
• 59:49
  that is. So, Ron Burgundy maybe not, but
• 59:52
  the disgruntled biker
• 59:54
  probably probably makes the squad.
• 59:57
  >> Yeah.
• 59:57
  >> Shout out Jack Black. Shout out Baxter
• 1:00:01
  the dog and punters everywhere.
• 1:00:08
  >> No, no, no.
• 1:00:09
  >> Reed Richards
• 1:00:10
  >> I'm on a similar page with you, Joe.
• 1:00:13
  Although, I am I am going to go for a
• 1:00:15
  mutant. Um
• 1:00:18
  as a quarterback as a
• 1:00:21
  quarterback of a humble 5'7.
• 1:00:24
  Um
• 1:00:25
  >> Short things.
• 1:00:27
  >> My issue was My issue was always seeing
• 1:00:30
  the middle of the field. So, I am going
• 1:00:32
  for Mr. Fantastic himself, Reed
• 1:00:35
  Richards.
• 1:00:37
  He will never have that problem.
• 1:00:40
  >> Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  >> Um We have had another comment though,
• 1:00:43
  Joe. This one again for you.
• 1:00:47
  From a
• 1:00:50
  Denzel Harms on Facebook. What about
• 1:00:53
  Speedy Gonzales? What about the short
• 1:00:55
  fast king?
• 1:00:57
  >> I'm pretty certain
• 1:00:59
  I'm pretty certain Denzel is a Leicester
• 1:01:01
  player or at least was last year.
• 1:01:03
  Recognize his name.
• 1:01:05
  Um
• 1:01:07
  See, that's the call, isn't it? Who'd
• 1:01:08
  you go for? I was thinking like The
• 1:01:10
  Flash would be another one.
• 1:01:12
  Cuz it's just like but
• 1:01:14
  it's the choice of do you want just
• 1:01:16
  somebody that can go at the middle just
• 1:01:18
  powering the way through or do you want
• 1:01:20
  a more scat back that's going to try and
• 1:01:22
  hit the boundaries?
• 1:01:23
  Um
• 1:01:25
  I mean, the the nice one-two combo would
• 1:01:28
  be the best, wouldn't it? If you could
• 1:01:30
  get like the flash alongside the
• 1:01:31
  juggernaut or something like that, or
• 1:01:34
  Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  >> Juggernaut at fullback?
• 1:01:37
  >> Yeah. If any If anybody knows Speedy
• 1:01:39
  Gonzales and when if they're looking for
• 1:01:42
  a scholarship at Bangor, I can I'll try
• 1:01:45
  and work that out in some way.
• 1:01:46
  We'll get you on like an evening Welsh
• 1:01:48
  course, so someone send me the details.
• 1:01:52
  What's it now with the Knicks? Good to
• 1:01:53
  see you're still playing, man.
• 1:01:55
  >> So
• 1:01:56
  uh suggesting the kid from Home Alone.
• 1:01:59
  Who apparently is too hard to catch.
• 1:02:02
  Shout out Kevin McCallister.
• 1:02:06
  No, so Will, yeah, so I know him from he
• 1:02:09
  goes banging, he plays hockey for
• 1:02:10
  Bangor. And I've been non-stop trying to
• 1:02:13
  convince him to join Harrods.
• 1:02:15
  So Will, if you're if you're listening
• 1:02:17
  still, come and join us, please.
• 1:02:21
  Well, but
• 1:02:23
  Right, um I think my I've got two
• 1:02:26
  answers for this.
• 1:02:27
  Um they're not as mutanty or Marvel like
• 1:02:31
  yours, but um
• 1:02:32
  So, my first answer, have you guys seen
• 1:02:34
  Norbit?
• 1:02:38
  >> Yeah, I think I have, yeah.
• 1:02:40
  >> Do you know Rasputia? He's the the the
• 1:02:43
  first wife.
• 1:02:47
  No.
• 1:02:49
  >> I'm going to send you a picture of her.
• 1:02:51
  >> Okay, yeah, because I'll tell you what,
• 1:02:52
  no one's no one's getting through her.
• 1:02:56
  The 300-lb merchant.
• 1:02:59
  And oh my gosh, and she can run as well.
• 1:03:01
  Oh my When she's angry, she can Do you
• 1:03:04
  recognize her?
• 1:03:06
  >> Yes.
• 1:03:07
  >> Yeah.
• 1:03:07
  >> There was a second I had to just Google
• 1:03:10
  that we're not just randomly fat-shaming
• 1:03:12
  women on the show. It is a
• 1:03:14
  character
• 1:03:15
  she's playing.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  >> So that and
• 1:03:20
  >> My my second answer, it's a bit more
• 1:03:21
  niche. Have you guys seen Gulliver's
• 1:03:23
  Travels?
• 1:03:25
  Yeah. You know it's in the most recent
• 1:03:27
  one with Jack Black. Not recent, the one
• 1:03:29
  that came like ages ago, but the second
• 1:03:31
  one, the more recent one. You know when
• 1:03:34
  he's fighting the police guy who's in
• 1:03:36
  that like robot armor?
• 1:03:39
  Was that a bit niche?
• 1:03:42
  >> I yeah, I'm googling this as well.
• 1:03:44
  So unprofessional.
• 1:03:46
  >> No, it's
• 1:03:48
  >> It's quarter past nine on a Sunday.
• 1:03:49
  These references are absolutely mashing
• 1:03:52
  my head here.
• 1:03:55
  >> Oh, I can't see it on the screen. That's
• 1:03:57
  a That's incredible. Yeah,
• 1:04:00
  I've got to rewatch that film.
• 1:04:02
  >> You guys Joe, that's that's a film for
• 1:04:04
  you to watch. I don't know if it's a bit
• 1:04:05
  too modern for you, but it's a very good
• 1:04:07
  movie.
• 1:04:08
  It's you know, it's basically just
• 1:04:11
  people we live with. Little
• 1:04:13
  It's explanation. It's this little
• 1:04:15
  little policeman who goes into this
• 1:04:16
  robot and this robot becomes like seven,
• 1:04:19
  eight foot tall and like proper like
• 1:04:22
  nothing can beat it basically. And
• 1:04:25
  yeah, those are my two answers.
• 1:04:27
  >> Shiv, that film came out in 2010.
• 1:04:33
  That must have been a proper formative
• 1:04:35
  film for you growing up.
• 1:04:37
  >> I loved it. It was so good.
• 1:04:41
  Yeah, no.
• 1:04:43
  >> I think that might be the lingering
• 1:04:45
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• 1:04:49
  Drop it in the comments on YouTube,
• 1:04:51
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• 1:04:54
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• 1:04:56
  What fictional character would you want
• 1:04:59
  to play your position instead of you?
• 1:05:03
  Can't believe that's how we're finishing
• 1:05:05
  our first live show here.
• 1:05:08
  But boys,
• 1:05:09
  it has been an absolute pleasure as it
• 1:05:11
  always is.
• 1:05:14
  First live show done.
• 1:05:16
  First live show done. Uni ball season is
• 1:05:19
  so almost back. I can feel it. Um
• 1:05:23
  at the end of the summer ball season,
• 1:05:25
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• 1:05:26
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• 1:05:29
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• 1:05:31
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• 1:05:32
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• 1:05:48
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• 1:05:50
  >> I can't wait. I
• 1:05:52
  Just for even You know what? It sounds
• 1:05:53
  so bad or not bad, but um as a lineman,
• 1:05:56
  I'd never thought I would say this, but
• 1:05:58
  I'm so excited for that first lap
• 1:06:00
  in training just so I know it we're
• 1:06:02
  finally starting.
• 1:06:04
  But
• 1:06:05
  yeah, I can't wait.
• 1:06:06
  >> Remind me, when do you guys go back to
• 1:06:08
  training camp?
• 1:06:10
  >> Uh it is the same weekend as the Union
• 1:06:13
  Jack Classic. So, it's the 20th of
• 1:06:16
  September that we're back.
• 1:06:18
  >> Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  >> So, I'm trying at present to figure out
• 1:06:21
  how I'm going to be in Wembley on
• 1:06:23
  Saturday and then back in Bangor Sunday
• 1:06:25
  morning
• 1:06:26
  uh for the first session and kick off
• 1:06:30
  squad.
• 1:06:30
  >> Is Houston is a straight train?
• 1:06:33
  Direct?
• 1:06:34
  >> No, after the game, I'd have to come the
• 1:06:36
  morning after. So,
• 1:06:37
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:38
  >> It might just be uh
• 1:06:41
  Very excited, yeah. 20th of September.
• 1:06:44
  >> Fab. Well, shout out to all the teams
• 1:06:47
  getting back to camp. Um I imagine we're
• 1:06:50
  reaching that time where vets and
• 1:06:52
  returners will be
• 1:06:54
  arriving back in their uni cities and
• 1:06:56
  arranging, you know, pre-training
• 1:06:59
  throwing sessions and stuff. Get back in
• 1:07:01
  the gym, get fit, and get ready for the
• 1:07:03
  season. Um and shout out to the Union
• 1:07:05
  Jack Classic. Joe and I will both be
• 1:07:07
  there.
• 1:07:09
  It's going to be fun.
• 1:07:10
  Um we will leave you there though, guys.
• 1:07:12
  Thank you so much for joining us. We
• 1:07:14
  will catch you next week on Fourth and
• 1:07:16
  Lecture. As always, I'm Tom and I've had
• 1:07:18
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• 1:07:20
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• 1:07:23
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