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Chuck in the Morning 8-12 Hour 1: Is it over? Mariners Morning After and episode 2! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Now we've got a long time.
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  Speaker 2: We're the action. Never stop? Are you writing this stuff? Something?
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  Speaker 2: This is Chuck in the morning. Why you people are
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  Speaker 2: beyond Let's go, Let's get the game off. Hey, great
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  Speaker 2: morning to you. Welcome into the radio show on a
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  Speaker 2: home day. It is Chuck Polin Ashley Ryan with you
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  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A r f M,
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  Speaker 2: and we do take you till ten o'clock today. We've
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  Speaker 2: got all sorts of things to discuss on today's program,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, a lot of them. Great.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say we got all sorts huh yeah, all.
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  Speaker 5: Sorts of happy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, I wouldn't call it happy stuff.
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  Speaker 5: We're thrilled.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we could weave in some happy stuff at some point. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we could sprinkle it. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 2: have I don't have enough material for a weave. I
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  Speaker 2: might have to sprinkle dust it.
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  Speaker 5: What about tears? We got room for tears.
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  Speaker 2: Oh we do, we do. Yeah, yeah, the salty tears. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we can taste each other's tears later on in the
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  Speaker 2: program as well. Okay, gonna be that kind of day,
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  Speaker 2: but we welcome you into the show. We do have
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  Speaker 2: a lot to discuss here on today's program, and so
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  Speaker 2: welcome in as we get things started here on a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, it does feel from you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: kind of this is one of the tough I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: say this the good thing if there's a silver lining
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  Speaker 2: about what I'm ready to discuss, as I have done
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  Speaker 2: this before, and the team two different times has magically
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  Speaker 2: turned the baseball season around like out of nowhere, like
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  Speaker 2: just completely out of no like the moment I said this,
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  Speaker 2: then the team absolutely reached down and found something magical
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  Speaker 2: and went on a run. This has happened twice in
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  Speaker 2: the last five years now. One time they didn't finish it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the other time they did. But yeah, it is Mariner's
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  Speaker 2: funeral day today. That's what it feels like to me.
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  Speaker 2: That team's not going to come back from this. And
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  Speaker 2: they are now eight games under five hundred after losing
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  Speaker 2: to the Yankees last night, a game that they were
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  Speaker 2: leading one to nothing going into the sixth inning, but
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  Speaker 2: once again, absolutely no offense from this baseball team. Once
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  Speaker 2: again a manager that doesn't know what to do once
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  Speaker 2: the starting pitcher is out of the game, and it
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  Speaker 2: results in a one loss to the New York Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: eight games under five hundred, four and a half games
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  Speaker 2: out of first place, with another with two teams between
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  Speaker 2: them and first place, four games out of the wild card.
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  Speaker 2: There are only three teams in the American League right
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  Speaker 2: now that are worse than the Seattle Mariners in the standings.
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  Speaker 2: Only three, I mean, certainly not out of it completely.
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  Speaker 2: The maths suggests that they could pull something out of
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  Speaker 2: a hat and pull this thing off. But the baseball
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  Speaker 2: team that we're watching, even the postgame comments, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I do appreciate Ashley, and you know, there's never ever
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  Speaker 2: going to be a time where we don't like Slash
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  Speaker 2: love cal Rawley, right, never going to be a time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just such a good dude. And then
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  Speaker 2: on top of it, he's given us phenomenal memories in
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  Speaker 2: this city, yep. And he gave us what probably is
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  Speaker 2: the greatest individual season in Mariners history, and a franchise
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  Speaker 2: that had Griffy Junior in it. Cal Rawley authored the
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  Speaker 2: greatest individual season in the history of the franchise last year.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been awful to use his own words, and
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  Speaker 2: last night I appreciate him going out there and meeting
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  Speaker 2: the media head on, and it looks like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he could have easily sat in his locker and did
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  Speaker 2: the same three to five minute conversation and gave short,
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  Speaker 2: cliched answers to questions. He went out, he met it
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  Speaker 2: head on. He threw himself under the bus. But it
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  Speaker 2: seems like a really strange time for the captain of
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  Speaker 2: the team, and the manager still hasn't spoken this way.
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  Speaker 2: On August twelfth, eight games under five hundred to have
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  Speaker 2: an entire press conference with both New York and Seattle
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  Speaker 2: media last night and say we got to start playing
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  Speaker 2: with it with an edge. You got to start playing
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  Speaker 2: with an edge. And he might not have said that specifically,
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  Speaker 2: like in those terms, but that was the theme of
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  Speaker 2: his press conference last night. That's what he went out
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  Speaker 2: to tell the media. We got to just play with
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  Speaker 2: an edge. We're not always playing with an edge. What
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  Speaker 2: on earth? So what was the wake up call eight games?
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  Speaker 2: Was it seven wasn't seven games under five hundred, Six
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  Speaker 2: games under five hundred an All Star break in which
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  Speaker 2: you were already being described as the most disappointing team
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  Speaker 2: in baseball. And that's in a league where the New
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  Speaker 2: York Mets have the second highest payroll in the sport
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  Speaker 2: and are the worst team in the National League. And
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  Speaker 2: yet national experts who had your back at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the year and said you were going to win
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  Speaker 2: the American League, at the All Star break and at
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  Speaker 2: the trading deadline were describing you as the most disappointing
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  Speaker 2: team in Major League Baseball. And now we're going to
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  Speaker 2: create an edge. Now we're going to set that edge.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe he didn't mean it that way, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: he felt that way a long time ago, but that
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  Speaker 2: seems like a strange time to waltz out in front
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  Speaker 2: of a bunch of cameras and a bunch of reporters
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  Speaker 2: who've been following you all year along some of them,
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  Speaker 2: and announced that we've got to set an it, we
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  Speaker 2: got to play with a greater edge going forward.
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  Speaker 4: Well wow, And I think I do think that this
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  Speaker 4: team thought they were doing that, Like I think they've
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  Speaker 4: had moments where they're like, yeah, we've got this, we're
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  Speaker 4: playing with our edge, we're fighting for this, we want this.
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  Speaker 4: But I think they were maybe going more through the
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  Speaker 4: motions and maybe him coming out because he I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he said that, but he also kind.
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  Speaker 5: Of called all of them out.
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  Speaker 4: He said, we we can't we got we gotta stop
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  Speaker 4: finger pointing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's not about who did this wrong or
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  Speaker 5: who did that wrong.
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  Speaker 4: And so I want I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 4: more of a public display to say like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 4: having these conversations and this is what's.
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  Speaker 5: Going on and we know we need to be better, or.
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  Speaker 4: If it was just finally his frustration kind of overflowing
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  Speaker 4: in him.
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  Speaker 5: Saying saying like I want to say this out.
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  Speaker 2: Loud, and I want to about himself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want everyone to know that I know I'm
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  Speaker 4: terrible right now.
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  Speaker 5: Awful was his word.
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  Speaker 4: And this team isn't playing how they're supposed to, and
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  Speaker 4: we are we know that.
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  Speaker 5: It is a disappointment to everybody.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, I I admired that he came out
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  Speaker 4: there because yeah, as you said, he could have easily
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  Speaker 4: just mumbled things in his locker and been like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, we've got to be better, gotta try.
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  Speaker 2: We fought hard.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he could have, you know, kind of done
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  Speaker 4: a Dan Wilson and just well it was a tough one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean even Dan Wilson was a little more irritated.
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  Speaker 2: I like it, but I'll say this, like it felt
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  Speaker 2: like it felt like closing words to the season. It
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  Speaker 2: felt like we don't have an answer. Yeah, we got
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  Speaker 2: six weeks left to come up with an answer, and
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  Speaker 2: we don't have an answer. And of course Dan Wilson's
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  Speaker 2: typical tough one press conference afterwards. I don't you know,
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  Speaker 2: if if fire is required, I don't think that they
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  Speaker 2: have a match. I don't think I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: they know where to pull that spark from. If it occurs,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to come out from you know, the sky.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a lightning bolt that jolts them
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  Speaker 2: into action. It's not going to be anything that they
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  Speaker 2: can generate themselves. That's how it felt to me. It
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  Speaker 2: felt like a eulogy last night, more so than a
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  Speaker 2: pep talk like this, this thing's dead. I'm sorry that
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  Speaker 2: it's dead. I'm partly responsible for it being dead. I
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  Speaker 2: take a lot of the blame for it. Being dead.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we can resurrect it, but if we do, we
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  Speaker 2: got to play completely different than what we've been playing
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  Speaker 2: as of late. And that it wasn't inspiring to me,
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  Speaker 2: I can I can appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh and I don't think he was trying to be inspiring.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't inspiring. It didn't feel like there. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see in his eye fight. I kind of saw in
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  Speaker 2: his eye surrender. That's what I saw in that in
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  Speaker 2: his press conference last night. And Dan Wilson just you know,
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  Speaker 2: Just is gonna be him, gonna be him every single
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  Speaker 2: second of every single day, including in games. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be nervous and fidgety and and then just vanilla.
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  Speaker 2: That's what afterwards. He's just gonna be vanilla and not
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  Speaker 2: give you anything. And so that's where you're at. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why to me, like I mean, I've said this
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  Speaker 2: week that I'm on the other side of the fence
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  Speaker 2: for the first time. I don't think they're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: able to pull this off. And that's very disappointing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it really is now. I really think it's over. It's done.
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  Speaker 4: I've gotten I tell you that every year, if we
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  Speaker 4: are out of the playoffs. Mathematically out of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: I still hold on to hope, like, well, something crazy
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  Speaker 4: could happen. We could still end up. And I have
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  Speaker 4: this like certain mentality where I'm like, I haven't fully
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  Speaker 4: given up yet, even though I should have given because
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  Speaker 4: there's no chance. That's kind of how I already feel,
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  Speaker 4: even though we're not mathematically out of it. Oh, not
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  Speaker 4: till we have a chance. But I have that same
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  Speaker 4: kind of like I'm trying to will myself to still
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  Speaker 4: believe that they could do something that kind of seems impossible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have to just I mean, in the
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  Speaker 2: last you've got to find a streak, you've got to
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  Speaker 2: find some tear. Yeah, And that's that's I guess that's
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  Speaker 2: my point. Yeah, certainly you've got plenty of time Mathematically
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  Speaker 2: it comes back from this. But we've been waiting for
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  Speaker 2: this team to play good baseball for four and a
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  Speaker 2: half months, right, and it's not getting better. No, the
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  Speaker 2: offense is getting worse. Yep, that's the worst picture you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna face in this series. And he's pretty good, don't
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  Speaker 2: get me wrong. Weather's is pretty good. Yeah, that's the
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  Speaker 2: worst picture you're going to face. In these three games
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  Speaker 2: and you got three hits off of him and then
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  Speaker 2: with a one nothing lead, And I do blame just
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you know what's coming. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Dan's decision, but I do
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  Speaker 2: blame the offense. I don't want anybody to get it.
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  Speaker 2: That's the biggest problem. We can't hit right. And so
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  Speaker 2: for all of the people that are worried that the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners are going to have to fire a legend and
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  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, I got news for you, They're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to fire two legends because there's no way that this
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  Speaker 2: offensive coaching staff can survive this season in the off season,
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  Speaker 2: and that that legend, that sacred ground right there, Edgar Martinez.
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  Speaker 2: But he can't. He can't stick around after a year
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  Speaker 2: in which you ended up with one of the four
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  Speaker 2: worst records in the American League with maybe the best
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  Speaker 2: roster in the American League. Again, he can't survive that.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I like Kevin Seizer, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: all the Dan Wilson's so nice, Kevin Seitzer's nicer, He's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna survive this. He's not going to and he's
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  Speaker 2: got a much better track record as being a hitting
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  Speaker 2: coach than Dan Wilson does as a manager. He can't
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  Speaker 2: survive this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan Wilson was never a manager before this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I do blame the offense. And once
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  Speaker 2: again it was the problem that you can only score
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  Speaker 2: one run on three hits in the game last night,
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  Speaker 2: and once you were down, I mean you could just
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  Speaker 2: see the defeat once you fell behind by two runs
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  Speaker 2: or more. This team's cooked. That's the way that they've
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  Speaker 2: played pretty much all season long to this point. But
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  Speaker 2: we do that does not excuse it. In matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: it highlights the importance of a manager when you can't
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  Speaker 2: score runs and every single run is precious and you
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  Speaker 2: know you're not going to put many runs on the
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  Speaker 2: board from night tonight. You got to treat this thing like, man,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to win this one. Nothing. And I get that.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently gave Spires not available last night. How he's not available?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what did you do? Did you in you're
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  Speaker 2: two days off of your suspension? Did you help a
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  Speaker 2: neighbor move? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Hardcore, Parkore, I don't get it. Well, yeah, how is
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  Speaker 6: he not available? But I guess he's not available. But
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  Speaker 6: even though he's not available, this is the time of year,
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  Speaker 6: this is the desperation you're in that you have to
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  Speaker 6: break the mold of how you've been doing things for
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  Speaker 6: the long term.
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  Speaker 2: You have to win that night. The only way to
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  Speaker 2: create a streak is to win a game.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And Jose Ferrer has not been good as of late,
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  Speaker 2: but last night he looked like he could strike out
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  Speaker 2: the twelve Disciples like he looked like he was locked in.
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  Speaker 2: And they have a lefty dominated lineup, which you know
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  Speaker 2: doesn't take a talk show hos to do a Yankee
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  Speaker 2: preview and tell you they have seven left handed hitters
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  Speaker 2: in their lineup. So you don't have Gabe Spire, You've
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  Speaker 2: got a horse in Ferrer. He's had two three days
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  Speaker 2: off and I know he hasn't been good lately, but
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  Speaker 2: when he's pitching great and you don't have another lefty
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  Speaker 2: in the pen, you ride that horse. And if Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Boone Pinch hits with a right handed hitter, then you
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  Speaker 2: go to Domingez. Dominguez has been phenomenal this year against righty's.
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  Speaker 2: That's when make make them. You dictate the terms. All
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  Speaker 2: season long, he's let the other manager dictate what he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna do. And so you just played right into Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Boone's hands. He didn't have to pinch hit, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: have to do anything. Oh my gosh, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: your mop up guy in the sixth inning up one run,
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  Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah. And I don't have to I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to take my big lefties out of the lineup
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  Speaker 2: at all. And I don't have to face that horse
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  Speaker 2: who was mowing us down for sixteen pitches in the
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  Speaker 2: last half inning. Let him go a couple if they
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  Speaker 2: don't pinch hit now he goes in inning and two thirds?
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  Speaker 2: Is that gonna kill Jose Ferrer. I'll say another thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say this about Jerry and Justin Kate Anderson. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't have Gabe Spiers got to be activated for
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  Speaker 2: this series. You're facing a team with seven lefties in
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  Speaker 2: their lineup. You've got a guy down in Double A
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  Speaker 2: who is toying with minor league hitters and is not
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  Speaker 2: getting challenged in any way. You know you're going to
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  Speaker 2: bring him up at some point this season. Why wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: it be now? Why wouldn't it be in this moment?
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  Speaker 2: Is it not desperation time for the Mariners right? Why
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you bring in if you don't have another lefty
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  Speaker 2: and you're getting ready for a road trip that is
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  Speaker 2: going to determine whether or not you can save this season.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, why are you this secret weapon that you've
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  Speaker 2: been holding up with, holding up with this entire year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like getting to the end of the
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  Speaker 2: Avengers and Thanos finally gets the five Stones and then
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  Speaker 2: he just leaves the glove on top of his car
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  Speaker 2: as he's you know, and drives away and it rolls
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  Speaker 2: off into the ditch. Like you have this secret weapon
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to let the season get away before
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  Speaker 2: you ever even use it. Why wouldn't you have used him?
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  Speaker 2: And then let's get to Rucker. I don't get the infatuation.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I'm not saying he doesn't have a spot
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  Speaker 2: on a major league roster. Fine, he's been phenomenal in
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  Speaker 2: mop up situations, not phenomenal, really good. You have to
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  Speaker 2: have mop up guys and then you have leverage guys.
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  Speaker 2: And Michael Rucker has proven to you statistically, I have
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  Speaker 2: the data. He is nothing more than a mop up guy,
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  Speaker 2: a good one. When he enters a game in the
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  Speaker 2: last two months, when the team is out of it,
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  Speaker 2: either they're up big or in most cases, down big.
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  Speaker 2: He's had ten appearances with that ten and a third innings,
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  Speaker 2: he's allowed three earned runs, and he's allowed ten hits
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  Speaker 2: ten base runners. That's less than one base runner per inning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a mop up guy. Hey, eat some innings
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  Speaker 2: for us so that we don't have to use our
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  Speaker 2: best guys to try to get through this game tonight
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  Speaker 2: that we know we've already won or we know we've
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  Speaker 2: already lost. That's a mop up guy. That's what Michael
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  Speaker 2: Rutger is what he is not. And I implore all
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: of you that keeps sending me messages about Rutger's numbers
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  Speaker 2: have actually been pretty good. I beg you, I beg
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  Speaker 2: you please look one layer deeper than the surface. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to start a fight, I got guns,
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  Speaker 2: don't bring a knife. Michael Rutger in close games this
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  Speaker 2: year in the last month and a half, six and
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  Speaker 2: two thirds innings and seven appearances, eight runs allowed and
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  Speaker 2: fourteen base runners. Now, three of those runs were unearned.
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  Speaker 2: But let's not give Michael Rutcker too much credit there.
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  Speaker 2: If you take away the unearned run, if just say runs.
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  Speaker 2: He'd have an ERA of ten point eight zero in
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  Speaker 2: close games, and he's allowed fourteen base runners and six
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  Speaker 2: and two thirds innings when he's brought in in a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: close game like that. Is not a high leverage guy,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: and Dan Wilson has turned him into one. How do
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: you go to Michael Rucker? There? Again, it defies logic,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: it defies statistics. That's not even analytics. You're not even
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you're not even banking on your analytics at that point.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: There is no way that Michael Rutgers the choice there
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: getting ready to face two left handed hitters after Brian
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Wu comes out, stick with WU'SCA, you're down a guy.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Well, and you're at the point of the season, right,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: he is at ninety two pitches. Why wouldn't you put
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: him in and see if you can get out of
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: one more inning or two thirds of an inn? Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: just something you gotta get twenty seven outs? Yeah, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you you apparently were down a.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Guy, which you never told anybody about. And here's Brian
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Wu on a roll after the thirty pitch first inning.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Finally on a roll on the road.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, if you're that desperate, see if you can steal
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: an out or two. Maybe you have a quick inning,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: maybe and maybe you get to skip Rucker entirely. But nope.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson loves Michael Rutger. There's no getting around it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: He thinks he's great and the numbers suggest he's not.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure they're simple.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I'm sure he's a nice guy and he thinks he's
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: great because of that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, But yeah, but that's just it. Nice guy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I just keep hearing nice guy. Is that what we're doing?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: We're just trying to run a nice guy organization here.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's get some Let's get some ballers
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: in here. Let's got get guys that have already set
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: an edge. Let's get a manager who knows how to
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: set an edge. One hundred and twenty five games into
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the season, and now we're going to start playing with
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: an edge. All right, Let's find out what's on tap?
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• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yankees win four to one over the Mariners last night,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: fifty six and sixty four. The record now four and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: a half games back of the Astros, four back in
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the wildcard. In this I mentioned only three teams in
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the American League with a worst record now than the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners. And so tonight they'll play again four pm
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: at Yankee Stadium. Bryce Miller will go against Will Warren.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: That is a battle of two right handers. First pitch
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: again at four to five Mariner morning after coming up
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: at six thirty. And of course we're gonna talk more
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: about this later on in the show. What should have
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: been our lead story was the Hard Knocks episode two,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: where some interesting things came out about Terry and Arnold
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: and Nick, Eamon Worri and all sorts of culture. I mean,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: it was just a show about highlighting, showcasing the culture
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: of this organization, which I found fascinating. I don't know
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: of other fans of other teams found it as fascinating,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: but my goodness, that's what that episode was about yesterday,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: and then the Terry and Arnold story at the very end,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: we'll ask Greg Bell about it. At seven oh five,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it's game week for Seahawks. Training camp. We count down
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the days till Saturday against the Dallas Cowboys at home,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and they'll kick that thing off f five o'clock NFL News.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, former Seahawk, now Chicago Bear, looks like he's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: not even gonna play this year. He is out for
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the season, or at least four to six months, which
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: likely puts his season in peril. And the Vikings named
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray their starting quarterback. Didn't take them very long
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to determine Murray is better than JJ McCarthy, so he'll start.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: That says a lot, not just the naming of Murray,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: but it says a lot about McCarthy that the competition
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: is already over. Ant Husky's camp continues as well, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: we're gonna spend a lot of time on that tomorrow.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Coming up next though, Mariner's Morning After the details of
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: last night's loss right here on Sports Radio ninety three
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: point three KJRFM.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Yep, people have heard of it.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people thought this was good at one point.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I this was one of my favorite songs as a child.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: As a child, and then you grew up, right, But.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Now I like it still because I'm like, oh man,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I remember just jitterbugging around. I don't think I was jitterbugging,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: just dancing like a weirdo. Oh god and god, I
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: loved it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's got a rank as the worst ever.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: The fact that you don't like it is what's gonna
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: fuel this team.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Oh sure, Oh yeah, I mean pitching, hitting, defense. No,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be whether or not I really channel my
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: inner hatred for Jitterbug?
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Can I tell you something that this team has caused?
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: By the way, I no longer, I've gotten rid of
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: all my superstitions.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I think there's nothing I can do.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: You've exhausted, it's all done.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what, I finally realized, Chuck and
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Bucker has nothing to do with me. I can't do anything.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: And I almost didn't even want to play any music today.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: That's what this team has done to me.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: They have killed me. Art is dead.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: We actually probably should have problem played the sound of silence,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: not the song.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: No, just nothing, just nothing, That's what I feel in
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: my heart.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Introduced the segment, Well, it's Mariner's morning after. Good morning
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: to you if you're just now joining us. Yeah, it
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: does feel over. It does feel a little bit like
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: a Mariner's funeral here today after they lost again yesterday
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: at Yankee Stadium against the New York Yankees. It's not over.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, mathematically, it's not even close to being over.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And the whole still remarkably is not all that great.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: They've overcome, this organization, has overcome bigger deficits at this
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: point of the year, exceedingly greater deficits at this point
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: in the year. And yet the way the team is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: playing offensively, they're not getting closer to the goal. They
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: seem to be getting further away with each night. And
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, in my estimation, and it feels like a
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: lot of others continues to make just really inane pitching
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: decisions when we can't afford We don't have any margin
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: for error because of the offense. And so Mariners had
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a one nothing lead last night against the New York Yankees.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Brian wu actually pitched really well on the road. It
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: was a little rocky there in the very first inning
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: that he had to go thirty plus pitches, but he
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: did get out of it unscathed, did not allow a run,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: and then got on a roll and shut out the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: New York Yankees on the road. By the way, a
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: lefty dominating lineup, one that has been struggling as of late,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: but so is Brian wu on the road. So with
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: a one nothing lead, a precious one nothing lead, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: despite Wu be being on a roll, and despite our
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: being desperate to win games still, Dan Wilson decided to
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: take him out of the game. He brits in Jose Ferrer,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: who dominates the sixth, I mean dominates the six and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: instead of keeping him in to phase two left handers
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: that were due to lead off the seventh inning for
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the New York Yankees, he decided to take him out
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: as well, despite our place of desperation that we find
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: ourselves in. And then he brought in Michael Rucker, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: it's turned into a thing on social media with me
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and Michael Rutger. So obviously I tweeted out, I cannot
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: believe what I'm seeing. And Michael Rucker takes the mound
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: against the lefty dominating lineup, and I know he seems
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to have a little more success against the left handers
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: as a right hander than what you'd think, but he
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: has had zero success when coming into games where it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: tied or you're up or down one, and I'll get
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to that in a moment. And sure enough, very first
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: battery faces doubles off the right field wall, next one
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: singles into right field. He does strike out the right
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: handed hitter that he faces. He walks Spencer Jones to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: load the bases, and then he faces another lefty because
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: he's still in the game, by the way.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because why would we pull him when he's loaded
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the bases.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Ryan McMahon comes to the dish Rucker behind in the count,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: with the bases loaded in one away. Mariner's gripping to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a one nothing lead. Here comes brown ball through the
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: outside base at garcia Isism goes rounding third and he scores.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: The Yankees take the lead of a seven uh. Five
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: batters face for Rucker. He allows four of them to
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: reach base. They all four score because Bizardo didn't exactly
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: come in and clean up his mess. Yankees took a
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: four to one lead at that point, and let's face it,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: this team falls down to three runs and it's pretty
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: much Katie barred the door. Uh So, Yankees go on
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to a four to one win, another flaccid offensive performance
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and another questionable Dan Wilson pitching change. Here's Dan after
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, uh, you know, a tough one again tonight.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: You know, I thought Brian threw the ball very well,
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: you know again deserved a better faith and then he
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: had I think, you know, they put a lot of
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: pitches on him early. I think there were thirty something
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: foul balls, you know, with with Brian in there, they
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: put up some tough and some long at bats and
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: and ran his pitch count up. And then you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: bopen not able to handle it tonight, and uh, offensively,
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: you know, just uh just a randy home run there.
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: I thought that was a really good piece of hitting
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: and you know, got a pitch that was up and
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: away from him and away from him and able to.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Drive it out of the ballpark.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: And and uh, you know, you know, as we've talked
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: about before, you know, you need to find.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: That consistency on offense. Then you can't well to start
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of the booth end stuff after Perra and thank get Ryan,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I mean you had two more lefties coming up, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you went to Brucker. Was Gabe not available to night
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: and gave was down tonight.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: He's you know, he had a little bit of backstness
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: and and uh hopefully we get him back tomorrow.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: And and uh, you know.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Wanted to get through that inning, and and uh, you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: we would like the way Rock match up there with
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: with those lefties, and it's just, uh, you know, it
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: just didn't get to where we wanted it to get.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: And and uh, you know it, we just weren't able
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: to to you know, to get through that inning and
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: and and keep them keep the game where of us.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Oh great, it just didn't get to where we wanted
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: it to get. So you mean, really wanting it to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: work doesn't work.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I promise from experience that doesn't. It doesn't work. It
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: doesn't help you. I really have wanted this for a
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: long time. Guys, it doesn't do anything. And it doesn't
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: matter if I really want it or if you really
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: want it, Dan.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Doesn't matter.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I would like to point out again, I don't
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: want to sit here and beat up on Michael Rutger.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: He's doing his best out there. Seems like a nice
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: young man, but there's a reason why he's never really
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: stuck on a major league roster. He's not a high
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: leverage guy. He could have had a nice little span
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: of time being a mop up guy in this bullpen
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: that is down with injuries, but Dan and the organization
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: are putting him in these positions and he's failing. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: want to take that even in the next extra layer
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: deeper because I keep having thrown in my face that
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: he had a two point seven o ERA last month. Well,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I just pointed out in the last segment he has
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: a six point seven to five ERA in close games
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: down two or up two, perfect, and he's being put
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: in those positions. And that's with three I'm not counting
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: three runs one in extra innings where you get the
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: inherited runner and that scored immediately when he came in
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the game. And then Brendan Donovan the other night, Yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: he makes an air and it ends up being three
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: underned runs or two underned runs for Rucker in that situation.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But he gave up three hits in the span of
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: four batters that inning as well. So he has a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: six point seven to five ERA in close games over
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the span of seven games, and he's allowed fourteen base
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: runners in those seven six and two thirds innings. Let's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: take it even further in one run games, which was
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: the case last night, two and two thirds eight runs
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: allowed and eleven base runners. I mean, that's a twenty
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: seven era.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: That's not good.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: That's and that's over four games. That's a small sample
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: size in the big picture, But we are running out
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: of time to win games, and we're choosing somebody who
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: has shown no ability is a entire life to inherit
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a close, a close one run game or a game
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and be successful. His slash line this year is three
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: twenty one batting average against three seventy nine on base
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: five to twenty eight ops in late and close games
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: clutch stats. Try this one on for size. A seven
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: fifty batting average against within one run, as I just
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: pointed out, a six hundred on base percentage. And we're
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: using him repeatedly at the at a dire time in
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: our season to keep the game one nothing or two
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to one.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Just because Spire has a back issue.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, tough enough Spire. Well.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I also wonder if he really had a back his
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: eye I do too, or if they're kind of punishing
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: him because he threw at somebody, or if they're just
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: didn't want if it's just an excuse as to why
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: he wasn't used.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Not punishing him. I do wonder if he was available,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: but then after it went Yeah, they tried to save
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: their own ass maybe by saying that he wasn't available.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because that seems I mean, how did you get
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: a back issue when you were when you haven't played
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: in five days?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And if he does have a back issue, manage
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it differently. Try to get an extra out or two
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: from Wu. Try to get an extra out or two
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: from Farrer.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you should have, because you would have known
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: that going into the game that he was unavailable.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean if it ends up that you got
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: two outs and nobody on base, and you know you
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: want to get Ferrer out and you want to bring
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: in Rutger to get out of get one out against
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: a like George Lombard Junior who's never faced him before. Okay,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: there's a way, there's a way to weave him in,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: sprinkle him in, but to put him in and maybe
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the most important inning of the entire game and then
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: expect a different results and then leave him in. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: and then expect a different result.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: And then after he gives up the two runs, you're like, well,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: now we should pull him. Oh, now you should pull him.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, Cool, it's just terrible, just terrible, cool cool, cool,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: all right tonight again, not over, but it does to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: me feel over. I will say that Ashley's holding out hope,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and I hope Ashley's right.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I hope I am too. But it's not like a
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: great feeling of holding out hope.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: It's like, come on, guys, please.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Please, Yeah. Have you tried your socks inside out?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Maybe I just haven't come up with the right combination. See,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: now you're gonna and now I'm gonna do it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Have you tried to wrap your head in foil? No?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I have not done that yet.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Maybe that's today.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've tried wearing mariorn his clothes. I've tried not
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: wearing mirror in his clothes.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I've tried.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Have you tried shaving Bunker's head?
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: No?
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: I have not.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Tapped into everything I do.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Maybe I should put Bunker in his cal rawly jersey tonight.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That'll be the trick Miller versus Warren a pair of
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: right handers. Tonight. That's your pitching matchup at four five.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: All right, another big story today. Can't believe I'm waiting
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: this long to talk about it. Hard Knocks episode two
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: aired last night our reaction next on kJ R. But yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: he couldn't be coming off better, Like in terms of
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: culture building. That whole episode was about culture last night,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people are coming off
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: with like this. Derek Hall's coming off as a bad teammate.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I don't see that at all. I think he has
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: a different type of motor. I think he's kind of
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: a bully on a playground type, but but the nice kind.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I just doesn't know his own strength and maybe runs
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: a little too hot. That's what That's what Dirty said
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: about him, you know, adding dirty that he's it's what
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: we love about him, and you know that will smooth
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: that over every single time. But Mike was right, stay
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: away from Sam. You're getting too close. We don't need
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to see how great of a bull rusher you are.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And week two of practice.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Well he did it right after if somebody had told
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: him to do something club, don't bowl, do something with
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: the club. I don't know this stuff, but yeah, and
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: then he went and then no, I was just meaning
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: the bowl in the club.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: I didn't understand. But and then he went and bull
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: rushed him right after that. It was like he just
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: told you not to do that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean he should have been scolded, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: he was scolded, and then Mike make sure he circles
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: back around and tells him that he loves him and
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: loves him for some of the reasons that he was
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: scolding him for. Yeah, so I don't I haven't had
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a problem. I mean, Derek Hall has the star of
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Hard Knocks.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: That's the first thing I took in my notes last night.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Derek Hall is the star of the show, the good
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: and the bad.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: The camera cannot camera loves Derek Hall. I mean, it
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: has been about him for two episodes, and I don't
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: think he's come off, in my opinion negative at all. No.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I maybe a little silly, maybe a little careless, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that's where Mike is, and that's where adding Dardan is
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: there to rain him back in.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I think the only way he ends up coming off
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: bad is if in those moments then you see his
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: teammates on the sideline like, man, what is he doing?
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: But they're not, They're like, look, he's our little brother.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: He's never out of brother. He's never out of older
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: brother's never had a little brother, and now he's experiencing
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: it all and he's learning and they clearly love it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Oh they love him. They absolutely are him. I'll tell
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you who's coming off even better than Mike McDonald and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: all of this. And I want to move in with him.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: And I want to be raised as his baby's big brother. Okay,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Leonard Williams, Oh yeah, how great is Leonard?
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Will do some gardening with him.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I want to garden with him. I want a shadow
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: box with him.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: When he was like, we need to find someone that
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: really likes salads, I was like, I do. I love salad.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: I'll take your veggies.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love salad. I'm freshly grown salad. I'm a
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: little reluctant about some of the lettuce out there these days.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Safe I trust big cats lettuce, I'll tell you that much.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: But I mean, he's just got a phenomenal relationship with
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: everybody in the building. A one time he's shadow boxing
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: with Jaron Reid, the veteran, and then the next thing
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: he's got Derek Hall. He's the big brother Derek Hall.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And then you hear Sam Darnold saying he is the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: best guy you will ever meet, Like, Leonard Williams is
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: coming off great. I was. I mean, we were already
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: fans obviously, but my gosh, am I loving me some
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: big cat on hard knots.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I know it was just and him and his family.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: They're just too cute. And the shadow boxing thing. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: was getting a kick out of that. And then at
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: the end that my note was I still don't understand
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: shadow boxing.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not do it. I mean, you and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I could not. I'm not sure what the rules are.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: No.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: I was like, we're just supposed to go.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Well, it's supposed to be if I move one way,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you should move that same way to counter my move.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: That's the idea. No matter what move it is, like
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Biron Murphy at one point just raised his hips up.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Whatever the move is, you have to make a move
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: that would get in the way of that move. It
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if I just point in the direction and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: if I'm going that way, then you have to point
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't get I'd suck at it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would too. Rock paper scissor on steroids.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I think is what I'll stick with scissors.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: That's fine, But yeah, I mean I think it was
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: an entertaining episode. I'm not sure anybody in any other
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: market would kind of see the culture to kind of get.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, we already know the culture, we're invested in
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the culture, but to get nitty gritty details of the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: culture has been fascinating television for me for sure. And
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: then of course the episode ends with the Terry and
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Arnold thing, and what we see revealed is that, Yeah,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: John Schneider's trying to convince Mike McDonald that we should
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: be in on this. Yeah, and I don't think Mike
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: McDonald's buying it, that was my read. But John just
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: has this in him. I can get a potentially great
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: player for nothing right now. I can overlook his troubled.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Past, overlook eight felonies.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Why can't anybody else in the room. But it looks
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: like they're already trying to figure out how do we
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: make this work without our fan base rebelling. So we'll
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: talk about that with Greg Bell at seven oh five.
• 39:13
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