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AROTC 300: Reconnaissance of the Unseen Enemy · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the Beltre Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson, along with my co-host.
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Brian Sigler, how you doing buddy, buddy?
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This guy is tired. What you been doing man?
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Alright, so Friday, my neighbor, who is a landscape, contractor
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G, and our Landscaping LLC? Name is Chris great guy, talk to
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him about getting some mulch, couple weeks ago.
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He dropped 10 yards of mulch at the house on Friday and Buddy,
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me and the wifey all day, most of the day Saturday and part of
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the day-to-day. Worked.
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So start, we I'm a little tired from doing that.
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Plus, we had our first Little League baseball practice on
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Saturday as well. Okay.
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When we get done recording here tonight, only going to bed and
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probably fall asleep in like five minutes.
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What about you big guy? Do we kind of similar, man?
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We had a pretty much outdoor based weekend.
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We did a lot of You know, little bit more Landscaping than some
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kind of similar stuff. We were working on before with
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the patio and stuff that we had a wonder why it's classmates him
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and his brother and his parents over doing like a little, little
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alcoholic punch and Noble fruit tray and stuff like that, while
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the kids messed around in the inflatable pool and on the
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trampoline. And then we went over to our
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neighbor's house and had some quesadillas.
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And some, some queso dip that I smoked on the on, the good old
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Weber in the backyard this afternoon, so it was a pretty
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full day. But I've been in the Sun a lot,
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so I can really use some sleep myself.
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Oh, yeah, everybody check out bronze.
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He, I don't know if you post it on Twitter, but you sent me a
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picture that Uh, stuff you were doing that, and I jokingly said
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to Brian, dude, we were recording tonight.
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Can you eat all that? You're going to be like food,
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coma, not going to be able to do anything?
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Yeah, we did some similar yesterday.
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Kim's brother older, brother birthday, was this weekend, so,
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we went over their house in order two pizzas.
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Let the kids Frolic in the backyard, which was again, a
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little more normal type stuff, and you're not a corset, but
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more normal and obviously the baseball stuff, more normal but
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overall size Weekend back to the grind tomorrow so now you back
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to the office tomorrow or that later this week we're still
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holding off, it's probably going to be either later this week or
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Monday of next week got it. I've done all the the re
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onboarding stuff so now I'm just kind of waiting for the green
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light three. All morning.
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Don't wash your hands constantly.
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Don't put your fingers in your mouth like that.
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Comments, like you're sitting there like, I mean, the common
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sense stuff, every human being that's of age, should know.
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Sure. All right.
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Well, the guys today, what we're going to hit as our main show
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topic is we're going to do some ACC offseason Recaps.
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Today, we're looking at the ones we don't play.
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So, but before we get into all that, we obviously it's been a
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little while since we have recorded.
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So definitely some news has come down the pipe and And let's
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start with the bad before we get.
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Yeah, it's not all good news, ladies and gentlemen, we had, we
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had another one jump off the boat as it were but we're but
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were you really surprised? He jumped off the boat?
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We were no no, we're talking about Latrell Neville here and
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we're talking about a guy that mostly got in the boat because
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Demetrius Davis was in the boat and even though we got the, you
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know, I'm committed to To to my verbal statement about three
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weeks ago. I was like, yeah, he does, I'll
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take your word for it right now, but I'm gonna pretty much say
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you got one foot out the door until I see some more
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solidifying evidence. So and unfortunately that never
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came to pass and it looks like, you know, EGD committed and it
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looks like that it seems Nebraska's the team that's
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really making the biggest push right now, which puts him a
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little closer. Sir to whom but not exactly what
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you would call his backyard either.
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He ain't going to Oklahoma Oklahoma State Baylor TCU, he's
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not going to those programs within a two, three-hour Drive,
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526 up in Oklahoma. But you know what?
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You got to do, what you feel is best for you.
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You know, I know some people go with kids pretty hard when they
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D commit. Yeah, be emotionally invested.
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But no, again, we don't know everything behind the scenes
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with this guy. You know, it could have been the
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DD thing and other things could have changed in his life that we
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don't know about. So yeah, again, everybody who
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goes after these kids on Twitter, when they become it,
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don't don't, they're 17 year, old kids think of yourself as
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seventeen-year-old. I'm sure some of you didn't know
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your head from a hole in the ground, and we're making
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decisions these kids are doing the same.
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So, let's go with that. But Brian from this, I kind of
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look at it. I mean, do you think Texas to VT
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history? When we say Texas to vtb in
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history, I think yes. In terms of it being a Big
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Splash in every recruiting class or signing for Five Guys, and
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every recruiting class. I don't, I think that was over
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height by the fans and over height by members of the
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coaching staff because it was a big deal when we started getting
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some of these guys in the boat. So I get that, you know,
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sometimes height becomes Your Own Worst Enemy, and I think
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that's What happened here is that everybody saw, you know, we
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had the commitment from the defensive ends and the 2020
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class and then D committing, and then all of a sudden you got
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Neverland there in about two or three other guys that were
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really given us a serious look in that area.
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And all of a sudden, you're like, okay, well there's
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something behind here, but I think if this is going to turn
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out more like what we do in Florida, especially in like the
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Delray Beach in Jacksonville area, then some sort of like,
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Ray and uproot meant from from Texas, and transplanting those
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guys in Blacksburg. I don't think we're going to
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see, see that degree, where we got a third of our of our class
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made up of these, you know, Texas Tech sakuma guys, but I
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think you're going to see, you know, two to three maybe per
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class. I think that's a reasonable ask,
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especially if you're not talking about high-profile, Texas town.
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If you're talking about more like the the low for High 3
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Guys, that were kind of looking at already pulling in like Alec
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Bryant so that's my take on it. Yeah.
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And it's out of the way but the way you put it was the movement
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was very hyped to the Moon because we got two glasses in
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one class. Then we picked up a couple more
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and it was like people were just shooting it through the moon,
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you saw the tunnel on social media but I like yeah I think
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you know I think some of the coaches did did a may be a
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little bit premature job of once they saw how it was playing with
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the fans jumping on that. And I think that created maybe a
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little bit more height than was needed.
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And then, you know, you also got to look at the fact that you had
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these guys in the boat and you weren't able to keep them.
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So there's gonna be some criticism of staff there that.
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You know, if you can get them to commit, why can't you, you know,
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keep them in the Well, let me ask this then.
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Let me ask this because we say, is it almond coaching staff blew
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it? Dude, how much you think that
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pandemic? Cause there was this just an
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excuse? Is it like?
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This is true, we couldn't die. Hate to see campus, to really
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keep them like all night rain, or just Coaching staff is
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losing, they stink at closing on guys?
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What do you think? Because you know you know my
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feelings I think you kind of threw a huge curveball and how
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we were going to do things starting March really what was
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gonna be the dead Peter? What did fear is going to start
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in may normally right? Yeah yeah I think the big thing
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is that you weren't able to get yeah just looking at the way
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some of these commitments have come through I think we were
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looking at a major march/april push Push to get guys in the
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boat and I think the pandemic completely through that for a
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loop and I think initially it played in our favor because we
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already did have good position with a lot of those guys, but I
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think as time wore on it became a problem.
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So I'm not saying that the pandemic is the reason we lost
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those kids, but I think pandemic definitely played a role in that
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because did, you know, we had very positive momentum at the
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beginning of the pandemic. Then we had about a four week
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long, we're kind of nothing happened and in that nothing
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happening is when, you know, DB went radio silence and then
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obviously we knew that there was going to be some collateral
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damage from that D commitment just because of how much hype
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was behind his his coming to Virginia Tech and how much hype
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was behind. Okay.
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Well and and and to I'll put this on the staff a little bit
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to some of it was a little bit too.
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Too much come play with Didi and some point.
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Yeah, he can't just type one guys.
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Being the centerpiece, you gotta, you know, build the
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entire recruiting class absent of everybody else that you're
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getting in. 100% on that hundred percent.
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I think it was definitely a factor.
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I don't think it's, I think it was a major factor, you know.
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But again, they cannot use it as an excuse because it happened to
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every, yeah, absolutely. It should it should, it should
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have changed your game plan of how you were going to recruit
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these guys make the point about them really pushing it.
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DD we had way just from you, do you know, published and stuff
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like that, but we don't know how things were behind the scene.
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Know how much it was to push to get to come into play with him.
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We definitely feel like Latrell was but you know, it is what it
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is. The pandemic is what it is.
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Think the NCAA is really screwing up right now by
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continuing to end the dead periods when you got States
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reopening schools are starting to reopen and just like I know
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that period that period. It's like why guys I don't get
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it but you know I think well I think me and you might tackle
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that another day but Brian, yeah.
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I mean I think it's going to create some problems with the
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Dead period. Keep getting.
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You push back. Push back, push back.
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Because at some point, you know, we're not going to be able to
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even understand what the recruiting is going to look like
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because you're going to be back in the season again.
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So you're essentially have what's a almost zero offseason,
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recruiting period, which, you know, is a completely different
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animal, especially rolling. Right into the early signing
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period right after the regular season, wraps up, I think it's
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going to be really, really hard. And I think we're going to see
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some major D commitments. And some major guys up for That
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we thought we already had a pet at home.
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Oh yeah. I already told you my thought.
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I think once that thing breaks I think you're going to have a
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week where there's gonna be 100 plus kids become it.
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I think it's going to be that fast and furious because the
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kids going to go visit a school and be like, what was I saw and
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he's gonna leave get on his plane.
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And then say yeah oops I think you're going to see that but
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Brian uses an old bad man over the last couple weeks here since
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me. And you last, you know, how to
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show. We got a European commit from
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germ or from Germany, by the way, or from Serbia, by way of
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Germany, Daniel Miller Tech or Danielle minutes.
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Yeah, yeah, Deutschland to VT DT.
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There we go. They got hit some things.
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You like. What do you see from this guy?
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Yeah, I think the big thing that you're looking at here is that
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he's got a good, a good punch and I think he, you know, he's
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one of the papers showing him at tackle but I think he's going to
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be a more natural fit as a guard looking at some of his past
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sets, it's a little bit shallower than you'd like to see
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for a tackle but he moved Speak. Well, I'm not sure the degree of
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competition. He was going against obviously
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looking at some of the European guys there, but in terms of just
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having the mechanics and having the sighs, he's got both of
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those things. So hopefully that that's
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something that we can work with because you know the biggest
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thing is you can't you can't teach size and it's nice that he
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already has a lot of those fundamentals kind of down in
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terms of past Pro which is going to be the bigger part.
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Because that's the harder thing to teach.
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Absolutely. Also the guy who was working
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with him, they sort of turned him on to us Paul Alexander
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longtime NFL 0 line. Coach shout out sons of Saturday
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with their interview with him and he's straight up said, he
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said, if this kid was Stateside, he would be a four star or maybe
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a five star because of the size and like, you talked about.
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He's already got a lot of really good technique.
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We don't know the competition. But you know, from listening to
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that, Interview. And they did a great job with
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Paul. But Paul tells you all of those
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places they have leaks so it's obviously not the standard of
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the NFL. So, again, he's been coached by
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Paul. He's probably seen it played.
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He's probably seeing the NFL and it's one of those things where
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sometimes you just take a risk and this is one of those classes
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where you can dice roll this. You know this isn't Last year by
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any means because we didn't have any spots last year.
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This year. We basically Go full boat.
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And it's like, take the risk. He's already built.
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At least him coming in. We don't have to worry about
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him, putting on 30 40 pounds to play at the Collegiate level.
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He's already 290 Pounds. He's already six foot, three and
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a half. He's got the body to do it.
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Let's just see if he can do it. Yep, so yeah.
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So let's have a little fun here. Brian, before we get to one more
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Source, series tile before we hit this topic for today.
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You follow that closer than I did.
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Yes I did. I followed it a lot closer than
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you did. I think I was I was really all
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over it so I don't know if you guys know but Virginia Tech is
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now football national champions. We have the most recent
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football, national championship in the sport right now, we took
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down Doug's. We took down Tennessee, gz.
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They held in the Rose Bowl. Absolutely, dude, you have a
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crush them, three scores. It was awesome to see the social
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media presence. Barstool is the biggest
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independent brand out there in sports media.
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They really. They don't care what they, they
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don't care your take on them. Nope.
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They say what they want to say, ask Norm.
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Would what happened shredded and he gained no followers.
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But he got tons of hits and he got ratio to death, but it was
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fun to see, but you gotta you gotta kick her again.
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Upon her. Named after him digital putter,
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which was awesome. I mean, you know, if I could be
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a bit of a Barstool joke and they named a player after me.
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What I do it. Yes.
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Yes, partly yes. Because they're hilarious.
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But the one big thing man that disappointed me in.
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You was our social media, just didn't push it.
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It was just like, dude, you're in a dead period of sports.
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People are following this guy watching them, you know, 70 80,
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100, thousand views, And we get a few tweaks out of it versus
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really, you know, Jordan with them.
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Yeah there was no, there was a media blitz, we had you know the
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initial clap back by the account and then you know once the game
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was going on it looked like we had some sort of thanks flap
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together to, you know, celebrate the fact that we took the win
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there but there wasn't a whole lot in the lead-up and I think,
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you know, that's about a 48-hour period that you had Had to put
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something together and just nothing really came out and I
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was really kind of disappointed in what?
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Yeah, and just just I guess not having fun with it.
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I mean it was I don't think it's going to necessarily move the
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recruiting needle progress but, you know, it was just something
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to increase our visibility and, you know, show that our brand
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can be fun and be in on the joke and things like that.
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I mean, that that that's an endearing quality.
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I mean, I think we had that Type of brand already but we don't
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show it enough. I think we're very laced up and
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I think that's a some of the criticism that I think the staff
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gets and the administration gets is that sometimes we don't just
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show her fun side. It's true.
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Now I get the I get the staff not want to share their fun
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side, but the administration like this was your opportunity.
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This was your opportunity for the, basically, the VT football,
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Twitter. Brand to go out there and have
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fun with essentially. I think Bar stools.
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At 2.3 million. Twitter followers.
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Big cats at a million dogs is like it 90,000.
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Some of their other guys are in the half Millions.
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It's like it's eyes and people know about salmon.
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We're, you know, we're not your host, a, your Michigan's, but we
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still in the last 20 years. Have a national brand and it's
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like, here's your opportunity seized upon it because what
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happens if Barstool and this is just my hypothetical thing, we
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have phones Barstool, we screw around with the next thing they
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want to know is Hey, we love to come up with the Penn State
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game. The real fight there.
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Once again, you're missing an opportunity there so but still a
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lot of fun. Well, nothing else.
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We could have sold some t-shirts off of it.
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Yeah he stamp on his big head so it just it just felt like a
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little bit of a missed opportunity.
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I mean I don't think any anyone's going to make a big
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deal out of it, but it definitely is an opportunity
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missed absolutely Brian 21. Let's hit before we hit our
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normal. A thing, the last piece I've got
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on here. I want to touch on is going to
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be the summer and fall practice, calendar.
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All right. If they expect a camp.
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Yeah. And that thing, gotta prove this
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week by the NCAA committee, so it's pretty much, unless, unless
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a lot of people come back against it, which who's going to
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come back against this, you're looking at six weeks of Camp
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right now. 25 starting June, first 25 calendars.
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Jerry virtual activities. Then the summer access, the
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athletes are going to get eight hours of weight training
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conditioning film review. No more than two hours a week
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that's roughly. Going to be mid-july up until
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the 23rd of July and then you're looking at the preseason, what
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you're calling the two extra weeks of Camp run going to be,
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you know, pretty much. Let's see here, 20 hours a week,
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eight hours of weight training up to one hour Hour a day for
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walkthroughs. One hour day for meetings, two
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days required during this off, this is going to be starting
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Late July into early August going right into the normal
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preseason activity. Dude, I read about it.
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I'm happy. This is happening for a couple
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reasons. One, we miss Spring ball.
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We're getting a chance to get the guys in those meeting rooms
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and get some live action going on before into, It just gets the
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gas back on campus and starts assimilating quicker, you know,
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whether than rather than the normal.
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Well, you know, we're going to do voluntary work outs and then
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we're going to start camp in August.
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I think what this shows this is going to be the model because
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I'm going to tell you, I think those coaches and be like we're
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going to do this again next year, right?
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Well absolutely, I mean I think you know you see some of this,
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usually like the first, you know, those two weeks that were
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adding here is essentially what you usually get.
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Like the First three to five days of us of a spring practice.
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So you getting an extra, you know, two weeks of that
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essentially here since you missed that installation period.
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Now, you're not going to get the same live action and spring game
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game time type access, but you are getting a lot of a lot of
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time for that installation of new things and that's going to
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be key for us, especially on the defensive side of the ball with
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some of the things that The J Hamm is going to be bringing to
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the table that are going to differ from what but Foster did.
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So I'm really hoping that we can take advantage of this time and
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you know, if you can watch film all day and you can have
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meetings and you can look at it Playbook but it's, you know,
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walkthrough still County seeing it happen on the field.
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Even not at full speed or even close to full speed that's going
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to help these guys. So I'm really excited that
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they're adding that in there for our purposes because Because I
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think at least on the defensive side of the ball, we need that
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time for installation. Not just, you know, getting back
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into game shape and things like that.
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What about the other piece I thought about?
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Do you think the, the coaching staff, the athletic departments
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are going to push the new too weak to say, hey, we need this
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going in because if we have these two weeks, we're going to
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have less strings, less pulled hamstrings, less minor ailments
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where, when we go full bore starting August.
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We have these two weeks leading up, we're going to do some
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walkthroughs. We're able to do some physical
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conditioning. This is going to essentially
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it's going to help the student athlete avoid injury, during the
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preseason camp. Do you think they're going to
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push it and say, we need this every year?
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I think the push for it. I think they might end up
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getting one week instead of to which, which I think would be
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okay, which puts, you know, kids getting back, your full bore a
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week earlier. So you're talking about last 3
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to 4, Days of of July. In most cases kids showing back
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up to campus having a week where you're restricted and what you
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can do, you know, before you start those true preseason fall
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camp activities. So I think that would be
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something that that would happen.
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That's likely I'm not sure if they're going to get two weeks.
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I think that's something that is probably going to stay in this
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one pandemic filled year, but I think They'll push for it and I
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think they might get one week and I think that would be a good
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thing for for everybody. Absolutely 100%.
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All right folks, well, let's get into it here.
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So today we are doing a cc round up the Unseen enemy.
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The ones we don't play this year.
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So today what we're going to be doing is talking about some All
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Season pieces of Clemson, FSU Wake Forest, NC State and
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Syracuse obviously all over. Over in the Atlantic division,
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we're looking at six key elements here today.
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The number of returning starters, their key departures.
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Looking at the three most impactful recruiting class
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rankings coaching changes and then the key returning starters
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and Brian's favorite the emerging Talent.
25:32
So Brian, I mean is it any doubt who we're going to start with?
25:37
We're going to start. We have to start with Clemson
25:39
and I'm going to be honest Curtis Clemson is a team that
25:43
will probably play this year because I see us winning the
25:47
coastal buddy. All right, but we're talking
25:51
regular season here. So I'll say, Clemson is not a
25:53
team. We play yet.
25:55
Got it. All right, Clemson last year.
25:58
All right, so I'm gonna run it down this way.
26:00
So let's start with the graduating guys.
26:04
So, let's just take a moment and reflect on what this graduating
26:10
class experience. And we're talking about seniors
26:13
that had one home loss in four years for ACC titles for college
26:20
football, playoff trips, and two national titles.
26:24
As a lot of experience, man, gz, G zloty.
26:30
All right. Oh yeah.
26:33
I mean, clearly creme de La Creme.
26:35
They are 14 one last year old fashioned, okay?
26:39
They lost some guys, did, I'm sure you go kill a few going to
26:43
be most hurting to them but overall look at them.
26:46
Brian. The only they're returning 11
26:47
starters both often billion defense but which is believe it
26:51
or not, you hear that. It's like it's not terrible.
26:54
I mean it's not terrible, considering the amount of talent
26:57
they are losing. Now I'll just going to run down
27:01
like graduating seniors, so they've got, we'll start with
27:04
the guys that got drafted. So we're talking Tanner Muse,
27:07
and drafting the third round. And Kevon Wallace drafting the
27:11
fourth John Simpson, drafted in the fourth and Tremaine Ingram.
27:16
Sorry drafter them seventh. So those are the four guys from
27:20
the graduating class that were drafted.
27:22
But there's a lot of other guys in that, in those graduates that
27:27
you saw a decent amount of playing time.
27:28
So, let's run them down. We got Chad, Smith, gates are
27:31
Vanka, Denzel Johnson, Patrick fibs, jail Banks, Stephen
27:37
sawicki, Shawn Dollar DeAndre Overton and Brian Dawkins
27:42
Junior. But we had three other guys that
27:46
departed early in this in this Clemson team from last year from
27:50
2019. Oh yeah, that's a big one.
27:52
Those guys, those are some studs.
27:55
So we got first round talents, Isaiah Simmons linebacker.
28:00
Drafted in the first round and quarterback.
28:03
AJ Tyrell, also drafted in the first round and in the second
28:07
round wide. Seaver T hiccups.
28:12
And you know those are some big time players that left early so
28:17
and they were expecting a couple more Big Time Players to leave
28:21
early and they ended up staying, but we'll get to that later.
28:27
So what do you think about these departure so far Curtis?
28:29
Well, the departures the big one I see for them is they lost four
28:33
on the offensive line, which is big, but with Clemson and I'm
28:36
gonna put it on the recruiting rankings in a minute here.
28:38
They're putting the talent back in.
28:40
Now I'm going to ask you this. Yeah of those three big guys.
28:44
Two rails of shutdown Corner. Higgins big body wide receiver
28:49
jump out the bill and go get the ball from people and Simmons.
28:53
Who do you feel is the piece? They're going to miss it.
28:57
Luckily, for you, you get both sides of the ball so you get to
29:00
choose where you feel like it. They're going to see the most
29:02
impactful guy leaving. So that's the big thing.
29:09
So, you know, when I look at it, I think their offense is
29:16
probably going to be the hardest to replace and mainly it's
29:21
because of those those linemen that are departing.
29:25
You know, we you got you got two big ones in there with anchormen
29:29
Simpson but you also had your Pollard and cervenka.
29:32
So those guys play your role as well.
29:36
So I think that's going to Be the hardest thing to replace for
29:38
them is I know they've got a couple guys that I want to talk
29:41
about here in a little bit coming in and stepping into
29:45
these roles. But I think the offensive line
29:47
is going to be the thing to look at the most because while they
29:51
keep putting getting guys in, you know, Clemson hasn't always
29:56
been known for those big-time lineman.
30:00
And I think the fact that they had a couple of those guys in
30:03
this this class. Yeah.
30:05
I think that's going to be an area that might hurt.
30:07
Absolutely, man. Well, Brian, I sit here and I
30:10
think about it. You know, you really don't worry
30:13
about them too much because did the recruiting classes have?
30:17
Kind of been insane for them? This is, I'm going back to 2017.
30:20
First of all, the above that class Higgins and Tyrell are
30:23
gone, did we forget Travis Duty and is returning that class into
30:28
2017 was the number 16 ranked class.
30:32
You look at 2018 where you see, probably this is the year more
30:35
guys are going to make impacts. They were the number 7 and other
30:38
small class 17 commits. That was the Trevor class and
30:42
then 2019 was 10. So you know, it's not out of
30:46
this world there in the top five every year but we know the way
30:49
they recruit, we know the weight they look for Fitz.
30:53
They've got a lot of good guys on this roster.
30:55
Still. I mean you might see some jumps.
30:57
I think the Justin Ross thing being out going to be just as
31:02
impactful because I mean you saw what he did when he was a
31:04
freshman in that national championship game.
31:07
Against Alabama. He literally ate them alive as a
31:10
freshman. Yeah.
31:12
So that's the way I kind of see it there but Brian, the one
31:16
other piece I told you I was going to get on and I feel like
31:19
this is big so before we get into the players because I know
31:22
you really want to get into the keys on that, I want to hit the
31:25
coaching changes because this is big for me and I don't know if
31:28
we saw it in those last couple games, but they weren't quite
31:33
clicking like they were and just got who was the wide receiver.
31:37
Coach the co-offensive coordinator, he left, he took
31:40
down at UCF, he's replaced by Tyler Grisham.
31:43
He takes over the wide receiver role and you talked about it
31:46
grisham's been there long The ga he did analyst work for him, so
31:51
he's probably a very good with the culture of the Playbook, how
31:54
they like to do things so that maybe a can.
31:58
But it's gonna be interesting, Coney Island because he is now,
32:01
the o.c. entitled self and although he was known as the
32:07
overall play caller, did some research.
32:10
And I found a graphic back from 15 and tell me if you don't find
32:14
this interesting. And I want to hear your opinion
32:17
from a guy who coached him play, About how it could screw up.
32:19
You're ready to hear it go 15. It kind of broke down like this.
32:26
Tunk Jeff Scott called the first and second down pass plays along
32:30
with any third down and long while Elliot primarily did the
32:35
first and second down run plays and he was primarily responsible
32:39
for ride receiver, or she has me running back block protections
32:42
for blitzes. So let me ask you this bronze
32:46
Tony. Now has to worry about first and
32:49
second down passing, please, he has to worry about third and
32:52
Long's along with all of his other.
32:55
At ease, you saw in that game against Ohio State, it took them
32:59
a while to get going and you saw against LSU, it looked like
33:03
they're getting ready to do and then just kind of floundered now
33:07
is that cuz cuz Jeff was still there, helping them out, but
33:11
tell me what your biggest thing is about him.
33:14
Going from that list responsibilities to now it's all
33:17
his Yeah, I think that's going to be a big thing to watch
33:23
because I think as you said something with the passing game,
33:27
just wasn't quite hitting the way it normally does.
33:33
I think the running game is going to be fine?
33:35
I think that's that's especially that's a wheelhouse.
33:38
But I think acclimating to the Feelin, the flow of what what
33:42
those passing game is going to look like both from that
33:46
perspective and from from working Tyler in as the the full
33:49
time wide receiver coach, it might have just been something
33:52
where there wasn't enough mesh time between when those
33:55
decisions were made and then when you had to play the game,
33:58
you know, so an offseason might do that wonders but that's
34:02
definitely something to watch because obviously it looks like
34:05
something wasn't quite jiving by the time they got to the
34:09
playoffs and you know, you needed some heroics from From
34:13
Lawrence in the the game against Ohio State and then, you know,
34:17
it just, they never quite seem like they got over the hump or
34:20
into the groove of the game against LSU.
34:22
You know, they were playing well, but they were just kind of
34:26
always at arm's length and I think you haven't been used to
34:29
seeing a Clemson team play like that.
34:31
So it'll be interesting. If they can get things ironed
34:35
out over the all. Not at all, not at all.
34:37
It's going to be very interesting with them.
34:41
All right, dude. These I'm going I wrote to you
34:44
now, give me some of your key returning starters for this
34:48
Clemson Tiger team. All right.
34:52
Key returning starters. So obviously the big one here
34:55
we're talking about is going to be trouble.
34:57
Lawrence, you know, you followed a true freshman campaign of 3280
35:04
yards, 30 touchdowns of four, interceptions, and a national
35:07
title with another 300, 3665 yards, 36 touchdowns, and eight
35:13
interceptions, as a sophomore, and Clemson was back in the
35:16
playoff and in the national championship.
35:18
So, you know, this is a guy that has the it Factor, the clutch
35:23
Gene, all those cliche things that people throw out about
35:26
quarterbacks and how they play this kid's, got it, you know,
35:32
deceptively elusive. I know that's probably something
35:38
that you apply to, you know? Any white kid with wiggle.
35:43
But we saw it against Ohio State, man.
35:45
I mean, I don't think we knew he was an athlete, but I don't
35:48
think we knew he had You know, that type of play in him.
35:52
So I think that was something that kind of stood out from his
35:55
sophomore campaign. But he's the big guy returning
35:59
and he's going to be, you know, one of those early Heisman
36:03
favorites going into this year. But the guy standin either next
36:07
to him were behind him. Most times Travis at TN.
36:10
I mean, this was a kid that everybody thought.
36:13
Yeah, that early and decided to come back for his senior year.
36:18
And now the entire ACC is sad. Yes.
36:22
Because I've gotta face this year because he was, he was
36:27
gonna, you know, this is a Maxwell Lord.
36:28
Doak Walker semi-finalists in, 2019, second-team All-American,
36:33
and reigning. ACC player of the year.
36:36
Yeah. I mean, he's electric, but he's
36:40
also still a God that can carry the load.
36:42
He's not a, he's not a guy that is going to shy away from
36:45
contact or is just a guy with some, with some wiggle that can
36:49
run away from people either. So he's going to be obviously,
36:53
probably 11b for Trevor Lawrence is one a, in terms of the
36:59
Firepower that they're bringing back?
37:02
You know, let's talk about some of the other guys that let's
37:05
talk about Nolan Turner. So Player.
37:09
He's the only returning safety played some key snaps last year
37:12
but he was sixth on the team in tackles and 2019 and he shared
37:17
the team lead and pass breakups. Oh he's a guy that can make some
37:20
plays in the secondary so he's going to be a guy that you want
37:23
to watch for. And if we're talking about the
37:27
last thing I'll talk about here is another offensive weapon that
37:30
we thought potentially could make the NFL jump, but decided
37:33
to come back and that's a Marty Rogers.
37:36
He's a big-time Ashell teams player but he's also able to
37:40
make some big plays as a wide receiver for them which they're
37:43
going to need. Now is specially with Justin
37:45
Ross being out. He's a guy that can he's got
37:48
that quickness elusiveness in the open field.
37:51
So having him back is going to be key for right Braun good
37:56
number of players right there that we've heard their names we
37:58
see them on the field who's a guy that's going to emerge who's
38:02
a guy and we you know about this the guy that in October we're
38:07
going to be talking about on Clemson.
38:08
That maybe we didn't quite see coming, or we thought light come
38:12
and he did come. So the guy that I'm gonna say
38:17
this, the guy that they have to have Step Up is Mac, bockwurst
38:23
he's their Gardens probably going to slip into the left
38:27
guard spot that John Simpsons occupied in 2019.
38:32
He was primarily a rotational like the key six-man for their
38:36
line in 2019. He took over for Simpson in, I
38:41
think it was the f. ASU game and he ended up grading
38:46
out the Highlight on the team for that game.
38:48
So something Simpson went down early in that game and he ended
38:51
up grade now pretty high. So you know, he's got a lot of
38:54
potential but you know, he's he hasn't seen a whole lot of time.
38:58
So he's a guy that they're going to need to step up with all
39:01
those interior, lineman departing.
39:05
Another guy that they're going to really need to step up is
39:07
going to be Joseph nyada, and that's 63 215-pound wide
39:12
receiver. He's going to be the guy that's
39:15
going to step into the role. That t Higgins had last year,
39:19
and so, I think that's good. That's going to be the key.
39:20
That's going to be key to see what Tyler Grisham can do in
39:24
developing his talent to be able to step into that role.
39:27
But I mean, there's three words to describe this guy.
39:29
He's big, he's strong and explosive.
39:31
So that sounds like somebody that might do some damage pretty
39:36
early on and another guy that might be kind of impactful.
39:42
But more in a situational role is going to be Brandon.
39:45
Galloway didn't play pretty much the whole season last year
39:49
because of a banned substance suspension saw some time in the
39:53
college football playoff. But I mean, this kid is sick,
39:57
leave or 240? Wide receiver.
40:02
So I think this is a guy that's going to be a big red zone,
40:06
Target for Trevor Lawrence, and he's a guy that they'll probably
40:10
line up on the inside some and just create some mismatches
40:14
against linebackers and safeties.
40:15
That just, you know, linebackers can't run with them and the
40:18
safeties can't out Muslim or have the height on him, so he's
40:22
going to create some problems. All right, so we're going to put
40:24
a wrap on Clemson, their needlessly, Clemson Tigers, Is,
40:29
well, let's just say they have things in place that probably
40:33
will continue to keep them successful.
40:36
Now Brian, we're going to move on to the Florida State.
40:39
Seminoles FSU made a bowl last year but a lot of other stuff.
40:44
So yeah, they're returning 10 starters on defense, seven
40:50
offensive started showing total 17, starters back.
40:54
That's a lot from a team that just barely met Bowl,
40:58
eligibility lost in the bowl game and then a lot of other
41:02
stuff happened. So Brian, they had a couple guys
41:05
drafted. I think one guy I really wanted
41:07
for my team but we didn't take him but get it.
41:11
But who do you see? As some of the big essentially
41:16
key departures when we talk about FSU players man we got to
41:20
start of course, with Cam Akers. Oh yeah.
41:25
Drafted in the second round, this kind of what Is their
41:30
entire office last year? It's in some games, early was
41:33
man, so that me, that's the big piece that they're going to
41:37
replace and they're probably going to end up doing it with
41:40
some type of committee. Well, I'll talk a little bit
41:43
more about that as we go along here, but it's going to be
41:47
interesting to see what they end up doing at that position.
41:51
But I'm sure you have a lot to talk about for this one, because
41:55
there's been a good deal. Of turnover with the staff,
42:00
right? Oh, buddy loves it.
42:03
Wasn't so yeah, as everybody knows watching college football,
42:08
last year, Willie, Taggart fired midseason and any All Season
42:15
Florida State. First of all, I would like to
42:19
see what their boosters checkbook look like after paying
42:21
tag it out because that was a boatload of money.
42:23
He was owed, but they go write a big check from Mike Norvell out
42:27
of Memphis. Basically, you look at Norville,
42:31
he built, what coach Fuente, did at Memphis success and went 38
42:36
and 15 in his time there? So definitely had success down
42:40
the AAC, including a trip to the Cotton Bowl last year.
42:45
You look at norville's offense and it was described by in boy,
42:48
is this, it is like a tight and inclusive spread offense.
42:53
Now you know, will he's running his Gulf Coast offense down
42:57
there and they're different. Get me wrong, they are.
43:00
But I don't think Mike is going to have a steepest.
43:03
Curve is really did coming from Jimbo's more.
43:05
Pro-style offense. Now, I'm going to tell you
43:08
something, what Norville did Brian this might be a shocker to
43:12
you. Okay, listen to how Norville
43:14
broke down. First of all, Norville kept to
43:18
holdovers from Willie staff. One was Odell Hagan's, Odo
43:21
Hagan's has been at FSU forever, was there with Bobby there
43:26
Jimbo? Get on Duggan's, the wide
43:29
receiver code so defensive line in the wide receiver coach.
43:34
Norville only brought two of his coaches from Memphis to wow.
43:40
Yeah. And so the other guys it is a
43:44
you know There's additional seven guys that he brought from
43:49
all over the place, man. And these are guys with D1
43:52
coordinate or Jimmy D, one position coaches and their
43:56
backgrounds. So hate to say this but when I
43:59
kind of look at Justin Fuente Justin Fuente held on to what
44:04
bud Charlie. And at that point, I'm touring
44:09
was still on staff and Zone. He basically brought his entire
44:13
Memphis staff when he comes where Mike Norvell is just like,
44:17
no, no, I want these guys who coaches a deal.
44:21
Pretty wild. Now for Norville, he's off.
44:26
Alec man here, these numbers In class.
44:30
So essentially the senior class this year, there were the number
44:33
6, rated 24/7, recruiting class. The 2018 class was 11 in 2019
44:40
class was 18 that was after the whole Jimbo fire and Willie
44:46
coming in everything. So he's got some talent and, you
44:51
know, I'm going to be interested to see how it works down there,
44:55
if there's going to be any Growing, Pains the first year,
44:58
but you look how he built. His coaching staff, he wasn't
45:02
going with familiarity couple guys who coached with, but he
45:05
was going with d 1 proven, guys, and kind of like that move.
45:11
Now, that's going to be interesting to see how those
45:14
guys mesh because we obviously know that the talent is there.
45:19
We know these guys can coach, but just because guys can coach
45:23
doesn't mean it's going to be a good fit in that things are
45:25
gonna work together the way that they're that they should on.
45:29
Paper either. Everything looks good on paper
45:32
for what they can do there, especially with nor well at the
45:35
helm on paper, that that staff looks good.
45:38
It'll be interesting to see how they move forward.
45:42
And mash as the season goes along, especially, you know that
45:46
those first couple, first, couple hard game that they'll
45:49
get to in their schedule and I don't think they're going to
45:51
have any problem with some of the lower-level competition.
45:54
But once they start getting to, some of the harder teams on the
45:58
schedule, it'll be interesting to see.
45:59
Have the adjust. Absolutely, I did tell me who's
46:04
there. Keys coming back.
46:06
All right, so we've got a few big ones here.
46:11
We'll start with the obvious one.
46:13
Marvin Wilson. Oh yeah, defensive lineman.
46:17
This guy is a monster. This guy is likely a first-round
46:22
draft pick, he was going to be this year.
46:25
He was going to be this year and Novell was able to get him to
46:29
come back. Back and try to start that
46:32
rebuild and I think it's paying dividends.
46:34
I mean, we have seen him as a leader.
46:36
I know that it did cause some headaches in the locker room but
46:41
I think once they finally got on the same page, I think it seems
46:44
like they're moving forward with some of the things, they're so
46:47
credit to him for both speaking out, but also stepping up and
46:50
being a leader and let his voice be heard and moving past it, you
46:54
know, once they came to a determination of how to do that
46:57
so credit to him and I think he's going to A dynamic player
47:01
this year. So look for big things for him.
47:04
Talk about some other guys tomorrow and Terry wide receiver
47:08
other than cam. This was the rest of the
47:10
offense, pretty much. I mean, we're talking about
47:12
Twitter guy that had 1,200 yards receiving and on touchdowns in
47:15
2019. So when the ball was moving
47:18
through the air, more than likely, it was going Terry's
47:21
way. Oh yeah.
47:22
And you know, lastly I'm gonna say this on the defensive side
47:25
of the ball. We're looking at him and rice
47:26
linebacker. He had 72 tackles as a junior
47:29
last. Last year and the guy was all
47:31
over the field making plays. So I think you're gonna see a
47:33
lot more coming out of him. This year, being able to step
47:37
into a really big leadership role in this rebuild behind
47:42
Wilson there. So, I think that's going to be
47:44
be big for this this team because they're areas of their
47:48
defensive look good. But they've been just so
47:50
inconsistent with being able to stop the ball in the the back
47:55
part of the outside of the defensive line, they've
47:57
struggled to stop offensive. Beyond them and they've
48:00
struggled to put up consistent point, so we'll see if that can
48:03
change. So that's that's the big play
48:07
guys. Now, if we're talking about
48:08
guys, that might step into a more key role this year, there's
48:12
going to be several of them. And a lot of them are coming
48:15
from other places. Let's talk about the about the
48:20
big one first. So we're talking about Devonte,
48:22
love Taylor, the FIU transfer, what's been the most glaring
48:28
issue with Florida State in recent years offensively
48:32
defensive line offensive line, they've been literally it then
48:36
just a mess to watch them on television.
48:40
It's just like, it's amazing that Acres was able to do what
48:45
he did with that offensive line. But even more.
48:47
So, their past pro has been horrendous, horrendous.
48:53
And I'm hoping, you know, fruit for their sake at least that
48:56
this guy's going to be able to step in and make some big-time
48:59
Persons for them. If we're talking about cam
49:02
Akers, Replacements, we're talking about a couple more guys
49:07
that are coming from other places.
49:09
So they picked up a just, Sean Corbin from Texas A&M, that
49:13
probably looks to get a lot of snaps this year.
49:16
Juco transfer the Damien web. And they've got a couple guys
49:23
that are kind of the the flex type players, Corey ran and
49:26
jacott Douglas that are probably going to look to Make Some Noise
49:29
as well. Well, so those are the guys that
49:31
in terms of replacing the production of Cam Akers that
49:34
might step up and do some big things.
49:37
And the last guy have here is DJ Matthews.
49:40
He's a wide receiver. He had 36 catches 335 yards and
49:45
three touchdowns last year, so respectable numbers, but you're
49:49
going to need to see him. Probably take another step this
49:52
year if they're going to have some success.
49:54
So, look for him to be a guy that if you want a guy that's
49:58
going to step up. Up and take them to the next
50:00
level. He's probably going to be the
50:01
one that's going to make the most rise.
50:04
All someone named I didn't hear in that Brun, which I'm very
50:08
interesting to me was fully. Hola born thought you might be
50:11
seeing him as the next cam Akers but I guess from your research,
50:14
you're feeling like maybe he doesn't fit in Norville systems,
50:17
but I guess, time will tell what that?
50:19
Yeah, I think he's probably going to see some time but I
50:21
just, I don't know what that's going to look like yet.
50:25
Yeah, everything I'm reading. Is that they're looking at some
50:28
of these guys that are coming in to really step into key roles.
50:32
So I'm not sure if that means that You know, he's kind of been
50:35
passed on the depth chart in terms of what nor belt looking
50:38
for or if it's just production-wise looking at the
50:42
tape, he doesn't quite you know, cut the mustard as it were.
50:46
So I guess time will tell in terms of if he can climb back
50:49
into the the role to be, you know, 1A or 1B in this offense.
50:53
But I think the Seminoles are looking at some of these guys,
50:57
they've got in the portal and through the Juco transfer.
51:02
I think they're going to look at those guys to make.
51:04
Some, some different type of plays for them.
51:06
Absolutely man. All right, Brian.
51:09
Let's move on one of my personal favorite ACC teams that aren't
51:14
the Hokies the Dave, Clausen lead Wake Forest Demon Deacons
51:18
coming off an eight and five season last year returning, five
51:24
offensive starters. 7 on defense for a team like Wake Forest.
51:29
That is not a lot, man, but give me a couple guys that we're
51:34
going to really see missing on the field.
51:36
I know one of them but I feel like there's one other Other
51:39
guy, too. All right, so being elephant in
51:42
the room, Jamie Newman is transferred to Georgia so we're
51:45
definitely not going to see him on the field for Wake Forest
51:48
this year. You know we've got a couple
51:51
other guys were talking about the big one for me is going to
51:54
be a couple guys end up in the draft.
51:57
We talk about. Justin Heron offensive lineman.
52:00
He was a six round draft pick. And Justin strawed linebacker,
52:05
he was a fifth round draft pick. So those are the guys that are
52:08
the key to Archers, the last two were going to be graduating
52:12
seniors and obviously Jamie Newman transferring to Georgia.
52:16
He still got some time left to play football, but those guys
52:21
are going to be the ones that are missed the most on this
52:22
team. Yeah.
52:24
Now Wake Forest. Did you know, make some coaching
52:27
changes this year? Kind of interestingly after
52:29
coming off a solid eight and five year, although they waned
52:32
in the end there, Paul Williams is now their secondary coach.
52:37
He's been a veteran of 20 plus years.
52:39
Years. Including a stop.
52:40
During the owl. Golden are down at my age.
52:43
Yeah, Ryan Crawford is, he was the quarterbacks coach but he is
52:48
moving to an assistant special teams coach and a nickel coach.
52:53
Now, he previously had been the special teams coach at Harvard
52:57
before he came down the way. Almost, maybe seems he was not
53:00
in the right position coaching Corners.
53:02
Let's get him to something he knows better.
53:05
They've hired Greg Jones as their linebackers and Coach.
53:07
He had been with them for a little while.
53:09
Doing some all field stuff and they let go of Brad Sherrod.
53:12
So made some changes, but not anything drastic.
53:15
It looks like if anything the Crawford move was to more, he's
53:19
better doing. This will bring it in a really
53:22
veteran guy in the secondary and then the Greg Jones thing I'd
53:28
like to see. I kind of feel for sure.
53:30
Because you did have a good linebacker Jones is going to
53:32
walk in with losing one of their better players.
53:35
But dude, they're not its weight, they don't get A lot of
53:39
talent, 2017, 6th ranked recruiting class, twenty
53:43
eighteen to sixty, fourth ranked, 2019, 250 eighth-ranked.
53:47
So in lieu of all those things and I know that return couple
53:52
pretty good players where they might surprise a few people.
53:55
This could be one of those down years that way and you know, for
53:59
me who is coming back that you see could if they make a bowl,
54:03
would be really impressive. Well, I mean we we start with
54:07
some of the key returners Got to start with.
54:10
I mean the dude Sage to rot, let me he's one of the best
54:14
receivers in the country and he was making this case for the
54:18
best receiver in the country until he got injured against
54:21
Virginia Tech. Last year, this guy can do it
54:25
all, I'll be big body but he can run by you.
54:28
He was third team All-American by Athlon even after the injury.
54:33
He first team all-acc wide receiver after the injury.
54:37
I mean, this guy was out there put up some big-time numbers for
54:40
them but we also got to look at a few other guys.
54:44
Primarily these guys are going to be defensive players.
54:50
So we're looking at Ryan's men, do he started all 13 games as a
54:57
sophomore last year at linebacker?
55:00
And he led the team with 81 tackles and was second on the
55:04
team in tackles for loss with seven and he recorded
55:07
double-digit tackles against her.
55:09
You taking Duke. So he was, he was pretty much
55:11
one of their, they're tackling machine out there, especially
55:14
for a guy stepping into a big role as a sophomore, and I'm
55:18
going to go with this is gonna hurt the Hokies a little bit
55:21
here, but the next, two key returners, were looking at her,
55:25
both Virginia, natives tray, Rucker from Fairfax.
55:29
He had nine starts last year as a freshman forth on the team in
55:33
tackles and he's stepping in as a day.
55:34
One starter, you know, after taking on that role last You're
55:39
due to injuries and the big the big veteran guy here, the
55:44
Redshirt senior Carlos Basham from Roanoke, Boogie.
55:48
Yeah. Walter get Walter Camp preseason
55:51
All-American. First team, all-acc in 2019 11
55:55
sacks and 61 quarterback pressures.
55:58
Also had three forced fumbles. I mean he is the big well
56:04
against he's the dude and he was in our backyard and he's playing
56:07
for Wake no way. Your geographically still pretty
56:11
damn. Close to Roanoke, but that one's
56:14
still hurts. It does it hurts a lot man.
56:17
All right. And I got a few players I want
56:20
to talk about here though. Yeah, I got a feeling.
56:23
I know one of them. But who's your emerging guys for
56:25
what you? All right?
56:26
So it's got number one. It's got to be saying, Hardman
56:29
because if Sam Harmon is not an emerging player than they are
56:32
going to have a rough go of it. Oh, they're going to have such
56:35
rough. Go saying apartment isn't an
56:37
emerging player that Now he thinks there's some history
56:44
there, he can't you see that he can do the job.
56:47
Now the question is has he taken any key steps?
56:51
Playing behind Newman last year where you can come in and say
56:55
okay well he's going to make some noise now but he's got a
56:59
good game and I think he's got some of the least with serrat
57:03
some wide receiver talent but most of their wide receivers are
57:06
also big guys. So I think that's going to help
57:08
a guy that The into this type of role, he's got big guys to throw
57:13
to so I think that's going to soften that Landing a little
57:16
bit. You know, speaking of guys you
57:18
throw into that. They need to emerge Donovan
57:21
Green. He showed a lot of chemistry
57:24
with Hartman starting four games in his Redshirt campaign last
57:28
year as a freshman, so he played in four games based on NCAA
57:34
rules, but one of those games with Syracuse and he had seven
57:38
catches for And 72 yards including a 75 yard touchdown so
57:43
the kid can make some plays and it'll be interesting to see what
57:45
he can do with the full run of games this year, especially with
57:50
Harvin pulling the trigger, who happened to be pulling the
57:52
trigger when he had most of those caches in that Syracuse
57:55
game. So it'll be interesting but as
57:59
we're moving forward, looking at Kenneth's Walker at running back
58:04
for them, that's going to be another key to look at this
58:07
year. Played in all 33.
58:08
Games as a freshman and it to 100 yard games and he led the
58:13
team in rushing in three of the games last season.
58:15
So he was a pretty key role even though he was stepping in as a
58:18
freshman last year, kind of similar to, you know, what,
58:22
Keshawn, King did for us and said, Mike, White is not quite
58:26
as explosive as king Terrence Davis.
58:29
He's going to be the Maryland transfer plays the interior line
58:34
that. Wait, now it'll be interesting
58:36
to see how they work him in, because wake is Turning all of
58:39
their interior lineman this year.
58:41
So I'm wondering if some of those guys don't Shuffle around
58:44
to make some some room for Davis to slip in there, but that could
58:48
help them Shore up things a little bit as, as they look to
58:52
replace a couple of their, their, their offensive lineman
58:55
the absolutely. And, you know, Brian to they
58:56
might be taking a look at him. Even, regardless of size wise,
59:00
with Collegiate level, tackles somebody kicking outside that
59:03
was on the inside, Davis, kicking to the outside.
59:06
I think wakes going to lean a lot on their defense issue.
59:08
If they do make a bowl. So a couple of those guys, you
59:12
mentioned. It's going to be very key for
59:13
them. All right, let's move down the
59:15
road a little bit to the east. Let's go to NC State.
59:19
Now, in Sea State, not a good season.
59:21
Last year. There were so under Dave, during
59:23
four and eight, but they do have some returning players. 10
59:27
players coming back on offense, six, players coming back on
59:31
defense now. Brian, they did lose three
59:34
starters on the defensive line and a couple of them, I'm sure
59:38
you will be talking. About right now.
59:40
All right, so lost larell Murchison, he was taken in the
59:45
fifth round by the Tennessee Titans.
59:48
So, that's a, that's a big loss. And then I'll send another guy
59:51
right there on the Divas of wind James Smith Williams, drafted in
59:55
the seventh, round by the Redskins.
59:57
So that's two guys off of a defensive line that are now
1:00:00
playing in the NFL. So that's going to be really,
1:00:02
really hard to fill those shoes. It absolutely is man.
1:00:07
And It's going to be tough for them.
1:00:10
Clearly with what happened last year for NC State, Dave door.
1:00:15
And I think officially is on the hot seat and he made he made
1:00:18
from coaching changes, like, he was on the hot seat.
1:00:21
He first big thing. He brought in Tim Beck, new
1:00:24
offensive coordinator, quarterback coached.
1:00:27
The co offensive coordinators from last year, still on the
1:00:30
team. George McDonald is now only
1:00:32
doing wide receivers the other. Kurt Roper is only doing the
1:00:35
running backs. Coach, they did hire Joe de
1:00:39
force. There's a safety from USC.
1:00:42
So new safety. Coach on defense Freddy Autry
1:00:46
Lindsay, he's comes in a nickel coach from North Carolina
1:00:49
Central. He did have a stop at Ole Miss
1:00:51
in 2018 so some D1 experience. Also looks like some local ties
1:00:56
there to the triangle and well the last two Brian.
1:01:00
I think we're super familiar with, I don't know why, but he's
1:01:04
guys coach for the Hokies Brian Mitchell, the cornerback Coach
1:01:10
Let Go by Virginia Tech lands on his feet down in Raleigh and
1:01:14
obviously the ones still stings. A lot of Hokies fans long time
1:01:18
defensive line coach. Charlie Wiles.
1:01:21
Let go and for Charlie, it made a ton of sense.
1:01:25
He's always recruited down in North Carolina.
1:01:27
So we're probably going to have some fights with him over some
1:01:30
players in the future through, right?
1:01:33
But overall I think you see door, no, I need to make some
1:01:37
changes on offense and weave. Got to score more points but
1:01:40
he's bringing some really solid defensive players to because he
1:01:44
knows that if he screws up this year, they're probably going to
1:01:47
let him go. And he has some decent
1:01:50
recruiting classes 53 from 2017, 26 from 2018 and 32 from 2019.
1:01:57
So there are some talent in there but I think don't know the
1:02:01
seats on fire. I got to bring in guys.
1:02:03
I think and get us there now, not later and then you see some
1:02:07
of those guys coming. Back, Brian, who do you think's
1:02:10
going to, hopefully, potentially save David, orange job.
1:02:17
Well, I've got to, I've got five guys that I've kind of targeted.
1:02:20
Both of some of them returning, some of them going to be new
1:02:23
that I want to kind of talk about a little bit here but the
1:02:27
big one. That's we weren't able to see
1:02:29
last year that we're going to get to see this year because of
1:02:32
NCAA rules is linebacker Levi June so he had to sit last year
1:02:37
transfer from USC. But by all accounts, he's, he's
1:02:43
getting rave reviews. So, but apparently put on a
1:02:46
bunch of muscle and he was a scout team player of the year,
1:02:52
in the year, he had to sit out there.
1:02:53
So he's the guy that apparently is a good locker room guy, good.
1:02:57
The weight room and seems to have the ability to translate
1:03:01
that to the field. So he's the guy to keep an eye
1:03:03
on both in terms of big play ability and just being able to
1:03:08
Cops and tackles so the will Factor deep at linebacker but it
1:03:13
seems like he is already kind of worked his way into that guy and
1:03:17
also being kind of a hybrid pass rusher for them.
1:03:20
So keep an eye on Levi, Levi Jones their Shoring up that
1:03:25
offensive line that's going to be key and it looks like Hakeem
1:03:29
Echo new is going to be the guy that's going to potentially step
1:03:32
in and help out there looks like he was battling some injuries.
1:03:37
Eventually he got It into left tackle.
1:03:39
Last year, one point. Once he worked through those
1:03:41
injuries and seem to do pretty well.
1:03:43
So I think he's kind of a guy that is already shown some
1:03:46
promise but he hasn't really even reached his his ceiling
1:03:49
yet, just being a Freshman last year.
1:03:51
So sophomore tackle iguana is going to be a guy to keep an eye
1:03:55
on. Let's also look at the defensive
1:03:58
end, Jeffrey Gunther who were talking about, all those guys,
1:04:01
departing on the defensive line. This is a guy that apparently
1:04:06
also had to sit out last season and Did a lot of good good stuff
1:04:10
on the scout team, just like Jones.
1:04:13
So, I think he's a guy that looks too if not your step into
1:04:16
a starting role, but he's definitely going to be a guy
1:04:19
that's going to be rushing the passer, and getting off the edge
1:04:22
for them looks like he was at Coastal Carolina in 2018.
1:04:25
So he's kind of following the Brock path here, Coastal, 2018,
1:04:31
sitting out 2019 and, you know, stepping into a key role in
1:04:35
2020. So he's got to keep an eye on.
1:04:38
And the one other one I want to focus on here is a guy that we
1:04:43
really don't know a whole lot about, but he's kind of looked
1:04:47
at as the savior of the offense and that's freshman wide
1:04:51
receiver Porter Rooks. They really were very, very poor
1:04:56
at the wide receiver position last year.
1:04:57
And based on this guy's tape and everything.
1:05:02
They are really, really excited to see what he can do because I
1:05:04
think he can actually have play level ability.
1:05:09
He had rolled early so he know he's got the maturity, he's got
1:05:13
the skill level. So I think they're looking at
1:05:15
him to be an instant impact guy and be the guy that can make
1:05:18
some big plays for them right out the gate despite just being
1:05:21
friendly. I mean pretty 4:30 star guys.
1:05:23
So it sounds like he is expected to be not only, you know, one of
1:05:28
the key Rich contributors, but it sounds like an emerging
1:05:30
Talent on your end Brian. Yeah.
1:05:33
He's kind of pulling double duty there.
1:05:35
He's both an emerging talent. And in a guy they're looking to
1:05:39
be a playmaker for them, right? And for them last year, two,
1:05:42
they were struck by a lot of injuries.
1:05:44
So it definitely didn't help as many different players.
1:05:47
They had to go four and eight but still, you know, you're
1:05:50
required to win football games and whoever's there's, there's
1:05:53
Supposed to win and maybe that was something that door and saw
1:05:57
with you know some of the coaching stuff I saw where
1:06:00
certain coaches weren't getting the job done and he was like, I
1:06:03
don't feel like going back and coaching at a lower dear lower
1:06:06
level. I'm gonna fire some people so
1:06:08
yeah. All right, Brian?
1:06:09
Well, let's move on to our last group here, the mighty Syracuse,
1:06:14
Orange, with Dino, babers, 5 & 6, the mighty Syracuse, Orange
1:06:19
with Dino, babers, five, and seven last year.
1:06:22
Now they're returning 11. Starters for on defense, 7 on
1:06:25
offense. But man, they ain't Clemson
1:06:28
coming with 2017 recruiting ranks of 2017. 5420 1851, and
1:06:34
20, 1956 and Braun. Did they have any really key
1:06:39
losses that might make them even worse than the five and seven
1:06:43
last year? Yeah, the big one.
1:06:46
We're going to talk about is Alton Robinson that that's a guy
1:06:51
that was making plays all over the field for them last year and
1:06:55
I think that he's going to be the guy that they're missing the
1:06:58
most going into this year. We're also looking at they lost
1:07:04
what bunch of defensive line talented, that were graduating
1:07:08
this year. We got Kendall Coleman and
1:07:11
McKinley Williams and Kenneth rough as well.
1:07:13
So we're looking at a Bunch of guys on the defensive line that
1:07:17
were that we're leaving due to graduation and in the NFL.
1:07:22
So they're going to have a hard time replacing that talent
1:07:25
because that's a lot of depth to go in one season.
1:07:27
All right, Curtis, I will throw this to you so they were five
1:07:29
and seven last year. Did they make any big changes?
1:07:32
They made several changes big guy.
1:07:34
They first started brand new defensive coordinator.
1:07:37
Tony white coming from Zone. Estate was Herm the previous
1:07:42
defensive coordinator behind Ward was fired after he Gave up
1:07:45
58 to Boston College last year. Yeah, you the way but BC was
1:07:50
last year. You have 58.
1:07:52
You're probably not gonna have a job unfortunately.
1:07:55
Now, Tony white actually is coming out, he was with her, but
1:08:00
he was multiple years on a rocky long out at San Diego State.
1:08:04
So comes from a really good defensive pedigree type program
1:08:08
and you're probably going to seek Syracuse start running the
1:08:10
335 base this year, so little change up there now.
1:08:15
Now, they also got a new offensive coordinator, stir.
1:08:19
Yeah, that's so again, I think Dino's feeling the hot seat,
1:08:23
like, Dave doorman. So new OC Sterling Gilbert from
1:08:27
McNeese State. He had actually worked with
1:08:31
Dino, babers, when Dino was at Eastern Illinois, and Bowling
1:08:34
Green. Now, when he was at Eastern
1:08:36
Illinois, he was named the FCS coordinator of the year.
1:08:42
He was essentially coordinator and one of my favorite.
1:08:45
NFL players right now, Jimmy Garoppolo and so.
1:08:49
Okay. Garoppolo on the Walter Payton
1:08:51
that year, so he clearly had a guy with some Talent playing at
1:08:55
that level. So clearly you got Jimmy,
1:08:57
drafted. So there's there's some, there's
1:08:59
some stuff behind the sky. Sterling Gilbert now.
1:09:04
The former offensive coordinator Mike, Lynch State on staff.
1:09:09
He is now the running backs coach.
1:09:11
So do you know didn't go as deep as dorm by getting rid of a lot
1:09:14
of position coaches? To me, it seemed like he knew it
1:09:16
was time for a change in philosophy.
1:09:18
And by doing that, I'm wondering thinking about who's coming
1:09:23
back, who you think could benefit Brian from the changes
1:09:26
to the staffs here? Well, I've me, I think the
1:09:29
biggest thing you're going to see is, you know, are we going
1:09:32
to see a step forward for the alleged veto that?
1:09:36
That's the big thing is that, you know, last year, he had two
1:09:39
thousand, three hundred sixty yards, so, Not bad.
1:09:43
Not great. 19 touchdowns 63 percent completion.
1:09:47
Percentage only five interceptions.
1:09:49
So didn't turn the ball over very much.
1:09:51
But are we going to see him? Take a step forward in this
1:09:55
offense, the key contributor. That's that we need to see.
1:09:59
Take a big step forward is going to be his primary target which
1:10:03
is going to be Taj Harris. Yeah, this is a guy that had
1:10:06
thirty seven receptions 559 receiving yards only two
1:10:10
touchdowns last year. Give em.
1:10:12
That's the big thing. I think we want to see improve,
1:10:14
maybe 44 DeVito's get more touchdowns.
1:10:18
I like the interception numbers but 19 touchdowns seems fairly
1:10:22
low along with only under 2500 through a passing yards.
1:10:26
I'd like to see them improve in that, that area if they're going
1:10:29
to take another step forward. But what could help with that?
1:10:34
Is a guy like Matthew Bergeron, stepping up, and being kind of a
1:10:39
big-time player for that offensive line, which was was
1:10:42
absolutely one of their weak spots last year to get what, 20
1:10:47
knock down blocks last year. It was freshman All-America, so
1:10:51
definitely a guy that can play but he's going to be asked to
1:10:54
step onto a more leadership role I think along the offensive line
1:10:57
this year as they start to get get better.
1:11:02
So I think offensive side of the ball.
1:11:04
Those are the three guys that work that are going to be key to
1:11:07
see if Syracuse can take a step forward and get back to bowl
1:11:10
eligibility. Very nice.
1:11:12
Any emerging guys from the Syracuse team.
1:11:14
Again, it's not a highly lot of Highly ranked guys, based on
1:11:17
where they're recruiting. Is there anybody that stuff out
1:11:19
there said that guy right there might pop this year.
1:11:24
So, I mean obviously we talked about, you know, to be there
1:11:26
taking the next step here. But if we're looking for maybe
1:11:30
like a running back to take the, take a lead role, I think
1:11:34
they're going to go with the junior tandem of replacing
1:11:37
moneill. He was their leading rusher last
1:11:39
year but they got jarvie on Howard and Abdul Adams.
1:11:43
So I think those are going to be the two guys that are going to
1:11:45
handle the workload from a Russian perspective.
1:11:47
So look for them to be key contributors coming into this
1:11:51
thing for this season but also their pass, rush takes a big,
1:11:56
big hit. We talked about Kendall cold.
1:11:57
When we talk about alt Robinson other guys left like the King
1:12:01
William's. So that's going to be the
1:12:03
biggest part to replace and I think Michael Jones is going to
1:12:07
be one of the guys to look to step in but also Tyro Richards.
1:12:11
So keep an eye. There's two guys, very nice.
1:12:13
You don't know how bad when you said Mike Jones.
1:12:15
I just wanted to scream Mike Jones from the hip hop artist
1:12:18
back in their younger days, I guess.
1:12:23
Alright guys, so that does wrap up this portion.
1:12:27
These are teams, we don't play. So, what we want to ask you guys
1:12:32
on Twitter today, is this what team of these five?
1:12:35
Do you wish we played in the regular season this year?
1:12:40
I'm going to go ahead and tell you I'd like to play Wake Forest
1:12:43
again because I think they are going to be on The Struggle Bus
1:12:45
as much as I love Clawson. Brian, what about you?
1:12:49
I wouldn't mind playing Syracuse as long as you weren't in the
1:12:51
damaged area. That's true but you know
1:12:59
definitely I'm just gonna leave it at that.
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Alright guys so that is going to wrap up this episode of The
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Boundary corn podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson I'm Brian
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Thank you for listening and as always let's go.
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Okay.