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Gary Jeff Walker in for Brian Thomas · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It's something new, anything Trump does.
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  Speaker 2: I think you know what is doing every day, what.
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  Speaker 3: We have to you know.
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  Speaker 4: Kr C the talk station five oh five Gary champin
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  Speaker 4: for Brian Thomas on this December eighth.
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  Speaker 5: I'll lie together. It's so precious together. We have grown,
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  Speaker 5: we have grown, is still special.
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  Speaker 6: Let's take a chums flower weed.
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  Speaker 7: So time No wants to do mount of time flight
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  Speaker 7: so quickly. The Why.
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  Speaker 6: It's Again movie Just Ligstock, who wins?
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  Speaker 2: Saw Loses?
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  Speaker 8: An unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News in
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  Speaker 8: New York City. John Lennon outside of his apartment building
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  Speaker 8: on the West side of New York City, the most famous,
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  Speaker 8: perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the
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  Speaker 8: back rush the Roosevelt Hospital, dead on arrival.
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  Speaker 4: It has been forty five years since December eighth, nineteen
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  Speaker 4: eighty when we all got the news that John Lennon
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  Speaker 4: had been shot and killed. It was a shock to
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  Speaker 4: the cultural system. It was a shock to the music
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  Speaker 4: world and a shock to the world at large. I
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  Speaker 4: would say, in many cases, you may have not been
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  Speaker 4: paying attention. You may have not cared all that much.
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  Speaker 4: You may have not cared for John Lennon, but still
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  Speaker 4: in all in the realm of culture and celebrity and influence,
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  Speaker 4: John Lennon was a powerful character throughout the sixties and
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  Speaker 4: the seventies, and as the song we played at the
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  Speaker 4: top so well stated this album Double Fantasy, which came
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  Speaker 4: out just a couple of months before the shooting, John
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  Speaker 4: Lennon felt like he was just starting over, putting away drugs,
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  Speaker 4: learning to be a family man with his very young son,
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  Speaker 4: learning to be a father that he never was to
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  Speaker 4: his first son. He didn't get much of a second chance.
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  Speaker 4: It is December eighth, twenty twenty five before we look
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  Speaker 4: ahead to look back at significant events and people tied
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  Speaker 4: to this particular date, including but not limited to these
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  Speaker 4: important Bell Weather Day for the United States, and what
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  Speaker 4: has happened in the eighty plus years since. December eighth,
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  Speaker 4: nineteen forty one, a day after the Imperial Japanese had
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  Speaker 4: attacked Pearl Harbor, the United States entered World War II,
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  Speaker 4: as Congress declared WAW nineteen eighty seven, President Reagan and
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  Speaker 4: Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev signed a treaty at the White
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  Speaker 4: House calling for the destruction of intermediate range missiles still
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  Speaker 4: playing the nuclear dose do with other superpowers. On this date,
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  Speaker 4: just thirteen years ago, Texas A and M quarterback Johnny
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  Speaker 4: Manziel became the first freshman to win the Heisman Trophy.
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  Speaker 4: Who will win it this year in college football? There
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  Speaker 4: are a lot of candidates, and the United States and
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  Speaker 4: NATO ceremonially ended their combat mission in Afghanistan the state
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  Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, of course, there was the botch pullout
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  Speaker 4: by George by Joe Biden. He doesn't know his name either.
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  Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, John Glenn, who in nineteen sixty
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  Speaker 4: two became the first US astronaut to orbit the Earth
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  Speaker 4: and propel that event, propelling him to a long career
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  Speaker 4: in the Senate, died in Columbus, Ohio at the age
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  Speaker 4: of ninety five. It's been nine years since we lost
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  Speaker 4: John Glenn. Twenty twenty two, Russia freed WNBA star Britney
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  Speaker 4: Griner for she was in prison in Russia for using
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  Speaker 4: a vight pen and also looking very much like a man.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe not that last part, I'm not sure. Famous folks
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  Speaker 4: celebrating birthdays today, Flutist James Galway is eighty six. It's
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  Speaker 4: hard to find a good flute player, but when you do,
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  Speaker 4: hold on to them, hope that they live a long
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  Speaker 4: and prosperous life. Kim Basinger is seventy two. I've always
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed Kim basing Actually not the way other men have
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed her. But Ann Coulter is sixty four. Have other
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  Speaker 4: men ever enjoyed Ann Coulter? Terry Hatcher? We know a
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  Speaker 4: lot of men have enjoyed Terry Hatcher. She is sixty one. Today,
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  Speaker 4: Basketball Hall of Famer Teresa Weatherspoon is sixty. My god,
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  Speaker 4: Mike Mussina, a Baseball Hall of Famer, fifty seven Today.
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  Speaker 4: NASCAR driver Ryan Newman turns forty eight. Nicki minaj is
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  Speaker 4: forty three. Country singer Sam Hunt forty one. Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 4: if it's your birthday, I hope it is the best
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  Speaker 4: birthday you could possibly imagine, and you get to spend
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  Speaker 4: it with people you love, doing the things you love
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  Speaker 4: to do. Truly, my wish for you. Well, I've wasted
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  Speaker 4: five six minutes. Now five to eleven. Again on this
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  Speaker 4: morning show, we have FP President Ken Kober talking about
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  Speaker 4: the sediment the Settlement, which seems like it's full of sediment.
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  Speaker 4: The Settlement in the George Floyd protest back in the
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  Speaker 4: summer of hay in twenty twenty. Remember, Cincinnati wasn't immune
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  Speaker 4: from the idiots marching in the streets over a man
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  Speaker 4: who was killed with four times the lethal amount of
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  Speaker 4: fennol it takes to kill a man, blaming it on
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  Speaker 4: racism and a wif cop. You remember all the blm
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  Speaker 4: all the Antifa, and now of course the city paying
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  Speaker 4: the protesters who broke windows, who caused property damage and
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  Speaker 4: basically terrorized other citizens on the basis of the people
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  Speaker 4: who should have been paying the city. More than eight
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  Speaker 4: million dollars are getting paid because of the settlement. We
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  Speaker 4: will talk about that. The rumor going around, of course,
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  Speaker 4: is that this was all agreed to before the election,
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  Speaker 4: but they kept it quiet so the same incompetent fools
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  Speaker 4: could get re elected and then rubber stamp it afterwards.
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  Speaker 4: The old joke, Oh that was the campaign. Today you voted.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Smitherman, with his usual aplom and flare and concise chattering,
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  Speaker 4: will be here to vent. Corey Bowman joins us later
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  Speaker 4: this morning with the latest. I wonder if Corey Bowman's
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  Speaker 4: ever had a car repossessed huh, and I hope the
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  Speaker 4: city's auto pay is working correctly, the whole city could
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  Speaker 4: be gone. Eight thirty. Jim Orneci will join us as well.
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  Speaker 4: It's great to be with you. I'm glad you showed up.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into the meat of the matter and some
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  Speaker 4: of the things we'll be talking about this morning, right
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  Speaker 4: after this break on fifty five KRCV talk stations day
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  Speaker 4: and then be back down at freezing or below the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the week. So good luck with that. Twenty
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  Speaker 4: eight now at fifty five KRCV talk station. Back in
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  Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty four, It's been almost two years
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  Speaker 4: ago Mayor A. F. Tab Pureval had his black Lincoln
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  Speaker 4: Aviator repossessed. What the mayor says, it was the auto pay.
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  Speaker 4: He made a mistake with the auto pay. This was
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  Speaker 4: the explanation for a man supposed to be a shining
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  Speaker 4: example of fiscal responsibility as the executive in charge of
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  Speaker 4: taxpayers money in Cincinnati. I mean kind of what the
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  Speaker 4: mayor is. He has one job set an example for
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the citizens. But anyway, and anybody who's
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  Speaker 4: ever used auto pay, and a lot of us do
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  Speaker 4: for our car payments, just automatically comes out every month
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  Speaker 4: of the designated account. If you made a mistake one month,
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  Speaker 4: you probably wouldn't have your car repossess. In fact, I
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  Speaker 4: know emphatically you wouldn't. Finance companies who give out car
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  Speaker 4: loans make every last ditch effort to contact you by mail,
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  Speaker 4: by text, by phone, by email to let you know
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  Speaker 4: that you're delinquent if something falls through the cracks, and
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  Speaker 4: they will do this usually on the average for ninety days.
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  Speaker 4: So it wasn't a one month lapse. It was three months.
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  Speaker 4: They came and hooked it up. Don't you know who
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  Speaker 4: I am? Doesn't matter. You didn't pay. He did admit
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  Speaker 4: in his comment that he was careless, but missing three
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  Speaker 4: months of car payments is more than careless. And it
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  Speaker 4: can happen to anybody, and does I mean there are
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  Speaker 4: about one point seven million people in this country that
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  Speaker 4: have their vehicles repossessed. You know, it could be a
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  Speaker 4: major medical problem or surgery. It could be any number
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  Speaker 4: that lose your job. You know, people who are just
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  Speaker 4: dead beats and don't pay. I think the mayor was
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  Speaker 4: gainfully employed in January twenty twenty four. Whether he should
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  Speaker 4: be or not. We don't know about any major medical
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  Speaker 4: emergency that Aftab pure Volt might have been encountering there,
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  Speaker 4: and God bless him if he was. But he kept
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  Speaker 4: that secret too. But no, the autopay defense of why
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  Speaker 4: he had his car towed away doesn't wash. In the
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  Speaker 4: state of Cincinnati, Aftab said the state of Cincinnati is strong,
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  Speaker 4: but violence, housing remained challenges. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: who's in charge of Aftim pure Vol's finances. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I've made a mess of mind before, but I'm not
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  Speaker 4: anybody's mayor. It's just another example of how screwed up
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  Speaker 4: the so called leadership is the city of Cincinnati. We'll
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  Speaker 4: get into the George Floyd settlement too, that's now about
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  Speaker 4: to be rubber stamped by city council. They knew that
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  Speaker 4: they were going to pay out before the election, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm hearing, but kept it quiet so the voters wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: know that they're giving more of their money away to criminals.
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  Speaker 4: It just goes on and on and on, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see here two juveniles shot after fight between neighbors
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  Speaker 4: in Avondale. I don't know if these reports hit have
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  Speaker 4: to have pure Vall's desk or not. See about two
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  Speaker 4: three yesterday afternoon, there was a report of a shooting there.
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  Speaker 4: Cincinnati police say an argument between neighbors escalated to a
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  Speaker 4: fight in front yard. Well, you know what, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: is that any better than a drive by over a
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  Speaker 4: drug deal? And you don't know what the argument was about.
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  Speaker 4: So one round fire that grazed a juvenile hit the
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  Speaker 4: other in the stomach. Both taken to Cincinnati Children's non
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  Speaker 4: life threatening injuries. I mean, this could happen anywhere in America.
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  Speaker 4: I mean an altercation in a neighborhood that devolves into
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  Speaker 4: something violent, But it just seems to happen pretty darned
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  Speaker 4: often in Cincinnati. There are plenty of other places in
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  Speaker 4: this country. In fact, there are plenty of places in
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  Speaker 4: this country where people have a whole lot more guns
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  Speaker 4: per capita than are available in Cincinnati. I know you
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  Speaker 4: may find that hard to believe, with all of the
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  Speaker 4: gun violence here. Love that term not, but it just
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  Speaker 4: seems to happen with greater frequency in certain places in
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  Speaker 4: the country, and the amount of guns available has nothing
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  Speaker 4: at all to do with it culture or a lack
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  Speaker 4: thereof family units, or a lack thereof drugs, and the
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  Speaker 4: abundance of you look for all the reasons that what
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  Speaker 4: happened in Avondale yesterday afternoon, which happens way too often
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  Speaker 4: within the city limits of Cincinnati. Let's see, the neighbors
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  Speaker 4: have a long history of family troubles. I like getting
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  Speaker 4: along with my neighbors. That's that way we can all
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  Speaker 4: leave our guns at home. Have you ever been to
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  Speaker 4: a gun show. It's one of the safest places on
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  Speaker 4: the planet, and there are tens of thousands of guns
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  Speaker 4: available for people to look at and put their hands
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  Speaker 4: on and test fire. You don't hear about any mass
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  Speaker 4: shootings get gun shows for some reason. Coming up on
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  Speaker 4: five twenty five, Gary Jeffinn for Brian, It's good to
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  Speaker 4: be with you. Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty
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  Speaker 4: five hundred is a telephone number of here upright and
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  Speaker 4: early this morning. I'd love to hear from you. Breaking
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  Speaker 4: back on fifty five KRCV talk station.
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  Speaker 4: Call eight four to four and we continue. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: going through these news stories with these other shootings and
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  Speaker 4: death in Cincinnati, and guy got taken in he's accused
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  Speaker 4: of shooting his sister, and we've gone from neighbors to sisters. Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the new city of brotherly love or sisterly love
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. Let's get back to this settlement that is
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  Speaker 4: going to be paid by the City of Cincinnati, which means,
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  Speaker 4: if you live in the city of Cincinnati and pay
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  Speaker 4: taxes in the City of Cincinnati, by you eight point
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  Speaker 4: one million dollars. Just sad only class action lawsuit of
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  Speaker 4: over four hundred protesters who were arrested in twenty during
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  Speaker 4: the riots. The lawsuit talked about police brutality. If you
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  Speaker 4: put cuffs on somebody, or you hit a cop and
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  Speaker 4: you are surprised and shocked that you were paid back
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  Speaker 4: for that the officer defending themselves, I guess that's police brutality,
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  Speaker 4: wrongful arrests, and inhumane jail conditions during the George Floyd
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  Speaker 4: protests in Cincinnati. Now the city is once again kowtowed
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  Speaker 4: to the criminals and updated police procedures for handling protests
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  Speaker 4: and mass arrest Remember when they blocked off I seventy five.
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  Speaker 4: The Cincinnati FOP criticized the city for settling the case
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  Speaker 4: and dismissing charges against protesters, which seems reasonable. And as
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  Speaker 4: I looked at this earlier, and I may have said
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  Speaker 4: in the opening piece here, I think that the protesters
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  Speaker 4: who got arrested and caused property damage and accosted police
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  Speaker 4: officers violently physically ought to be pay in the city,
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  Speaker 4: not the other way around. The City of Cincinnati needs
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  Speaker 4: to get better shyster lawyers than they have, like the
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  Speaker 4: one that filed this class action on behalf of the
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  Speaker 4: criminals from twenty twenty. Oh, Hamilton County's going to pony
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  Speaker 4: up too, So I don't think you're safe as a
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  Speaker 4: but sixty five grand inhumane jail conditions. Producer Joe Strecker said, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're whining about inhumane jail conditions because they had to
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  Speaker 4: sit in processing and weren't allowed to go to the
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  Speaker 4: bathroom or go get a sandwich while they were incarcerated
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  Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. Certainly, it wasn't the center of the universe
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  Speaker 4: when it came to the violent protests in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: They happened here, but not like in other places. But
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  Speaker 4: the lawsuit says that the arrests, along with the curfew
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  Speaker 4: imposed by then Mayor John Cranleigh, violated people's constitutional rights.
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  Speaker 4: The curfew ran from May thirtieth to June eighth. What
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  Speaker 4: about the people who didn't get arrested during the protests. Sorry, baby,
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  Speaker 4: you're out had to show damage. During those that week
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  Speaker 4: week and a half, approximately five hundred people were arrested
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  Speaker 4: charge of violating the curfew, and the city eventually dropped
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  Speaker 4: those charges about curfew violations because the judges in Hamilton
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  Speaker 4: County couldn't get it together and decide on a common course.
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  Speaker 4: Some judges found that the curfew was unconstitutional unenforceable, while
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  Speaker 4: others declined to dismiss the charges, so they were at odds.
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  Speaker 4: The cases went to a state appeals court, but the
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  Speaker 4: city dismissed them before any decision was made at that
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  Speaker 4: higher level. So anyway, they cause all of this chaos
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  Speaker 4: over a false narrative that happened four states away, and
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  Speaker 4: the protesters that get paid God bless America. Good job Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 4: And of course what that does is the next time
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  Speaker 4: there's some nationwide cause to celeb, some fads, some trend
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  Speaker 4: that is breaking and going viral, and people in Cincinnati do,
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  Speaker 4: monkey see monkey do and start acting like the idiots
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  Speaker 4: and criminals in other cities. They know there are no
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  Speaker 4: ultimate repercussions for breaking the law. In fact, this could
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  Speaker 4: be your pathway to receiving a payout someday with the
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  Speaker 4: right lawyer and the right judge. That's what it does.
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  Speaker 4: And it's no way, it's no way to run a city,
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  Speaker 4: a state, or a country for the majority of people
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  Speaker 4: who just want to live in peace, be left alone
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  Speaker 4: and go about their daily lives, take care of their families,
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  Speaker 4: do their jobs, live in quiet neighborhoods, and laugh at
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  Speaker 4: the occasional idiot who passes by. Simple as that. Coming
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  Speaker 4: up on five thirty five on this Monday morning, December eighth,
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Brian Thomas,
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  Speaker 4: you or who you are, and that is perfectly fine
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  Speaker 4: with me. Fifty five KRC the talk station. Just how
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  Speaker 4: good is pure talk current deal for unlimited? So is
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  Speaker 4: this all there is? That's the eternal question of we
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  Speaker 4: mere mortals who live very finite lives compared to the
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  Speaker 4: timeline of history. Is this all there is? And you
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  Speaker 4: hear about people who have near death experiences and they
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  Speaker 4: go through the tunnel into the light, they're surrounded by
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  Speaker 4: loved ones, they claim to see Jesus. It goes to
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  Speaker 4: the very question of do we all as human beings
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  Speaker 4: have a soul. The Bible tells us that we do
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  Speaker 4: an eternal soul beyond the flesh and blood of the body.
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  Speaker 4: According to doctor Michael Einer, I guess that's how you
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  Speaker 4: pronounce it. It's eg Or maybe Egner, who is a
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  Speaker 4: famous neurosurgeon. He says that we do have a soul
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  Speaker 4: outside the brain, because a lot of people say NDEs
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  Speaker 4: near death experiences are nothing but the brain shutting down
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  Speaker 4: as a body dies. But he says, not so fast.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the quote from doctor Einer or Egner, who is
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  Speaker 4: actually a neurosurgeon, a neuroscientist. He is a neurosurgeon. He
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  Speaker 4: may be a rocket scientist too, I don't know, he said.
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  Speaker 4: And I quote neuroscientists to stand up and say we
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  Speaker 4: have souls are far and few between. But when you
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  Speaker 4: look carefully at the neuroscience, the best neuroscience over the
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  Speaker 4: past century, it clearly points to the existence of the
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  Speaker 4: soul and to the existence of aspects of our mind
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  Speaker 4: that do not come from the brain. And this is
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  Speaker 4: a guy who wasn't something a Bible. He started off
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  Speaker 4: as a materialist, an atheist, or what I like to
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  Speaker 4: call a human secularist. But after forty years and more
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  Speaker 4: than seven thousand brain surgeries. He concluded that reason and
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  Speaker 4: free will do not reside in the brain. Neuroscience is
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  Speaker 4: just fundamentally wrong in a lot of ways because of
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  Speaker 4: the materialist vices bias in neuroscience. We can't get away
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  Speaker 4: from this machine analogy. But we're not machines, and we
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  Speaker 4: don't work like machines work, And there's overwhelming evidence in
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  Speaker 4: neuroscience for the existence of a soul. This guy is
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  Speaker 4: a professor of neurosurgery and pediatrics, a senior fellow at
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  Speaker 4: the Discovery Institute, and co author of the book The
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  Speaker 4: Immortal Mind, a neurosurgeon's case for the existence of the soul.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, that's a neuroscientist who's saying, yeah, there's more
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  Speaker 4: than what's going on physically inside your body. There is
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  Speaker 4: evidence in neuroscience from his experience. The brain's dead, the
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  Speaker 4: soul lives on. That's what I believe. But now, science,
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  Speaker 4: real science, not consensus science or biased science, but open minded,
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  Speaker 4: real experimentation, real curiosity and research. At least from this
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  Speaker 4: one neurosurgeon's standpoint is showing that there's more than just
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  Speaker 4: this physicality in this realm. I just think that's fascinating
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  Speaker 4: and it's affirming for me as a Christian. There's somebody
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  Speaker 4: who's using science to prove the existence of more than
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  Speaker 4: what you see and feel in this life of God,
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  Speaker 4: and that to me is very very exciting. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what about you, do you believe we have a
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  Speaker 4: soul that has nothing to do with the mechanics of
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  Speaker 4: the brain, goes well beyond your heart, your liver, your
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  Speaker 4: other bodily functions, the spinal fluid, and in your gray matter.
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  Speaker 4: I just think it's very, very exciting to hear somebody
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  Speaker 4: say that in the scientific community. Coming up on five
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  Speaker 4: forty five, Gary jeff In for Brian on fifty five
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  Speaker 4: krc DE talk station, The Math on the City of
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  Speaker 4: Cincinnati's settlement to the four hundred and seventy nine claimants.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: The plaintiffs are going to receive, after lawyer's fees for
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: a few hours of inconvenience because of your own actions,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: they're each going to receive roughly twelve thousand, seven hundred
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: and thirty four. Well, the journeys on the on the
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  Speaker 4: case will reap a benefit of two million dollars. Gosh,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta love lawyers. That's why you listen to Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I guess let's go to the phones. Jay is on
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  Speaker 4: the line. Good morning, Jay, you're on fifty five KRC.
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  Speaker 10: How are you, hey, I'm doing good, Good morning, Good morning, Hey.
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  Speaker 11: I wanted to build on your your story there about
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  Speaker 11: the existence of a soul. I recently read guy by
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  Speaker 11: the name of Jay Vernon McGee. He's a kind of
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: a Bible teacher, Bible scholar. He's been dead now since
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: nineteen eighty eight, but his teaching still go on, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: he just goes chapter by chapter, verse by verse through
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: the Bible. And recently, coincidentally, he talked about that science
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: has been unable to really define the difference between the
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: mind and the buying, and goes on to talk about
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: that every seven years your body regenerates. Every cell in
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: your body regenerates into a new cell. So from a
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: strictly scientific purpose that that would create a new being.
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  Speaker 11: Yet inside of each one of us is something where
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  Speaker 11: I am still here. The me that was me when
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  Speaker 11: I was seven years old is still here and hasn't
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: changed along with my experiences and everything else. If it
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: was strictly science based and cells change, then I ought
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  Speaker 11: to be a new creation about every seven years. But
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: we all know that that's not true.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an excellent point. I've never heard of put
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  Speaker 4: quite that way of a.
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  Speaker 11: Soul, that there's something bigger than just cells that are
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: clumped together that make up a life and a body.
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  Speaker 11: And also to build on your point, that is this
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  Speaker 11: all there is if you read the Bible, and I
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: would really encourage people this time of year Hebrews, Romans,
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: jude Amingulatians, it is if you strip back all of
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  Speaker 11: the ceremony and all the ritual and what we call religion,
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: what you need is Christ. You don't need to be baptized,
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: you don't need to take communion, you don't need to
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: go to confession. If those things move you closer to Christ, fine,
• 32:19
  Speaker 11: but the Bible is very clear that we are lost
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: sinners and the only thing that's going to get our
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: soul to eternal heaven is Christ and accepting the gift
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: this year, that this time of year of being Christmas,
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: just simply accept the gift of He died in our place,
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: the substitutionary depth. Because we on our own there's nothing
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: with our own two hands that we can do to
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: earn our way into heaven. So if there's one message,
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: yes there is a soul. I believe that to be
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: the case. Then the very next question is, well, where
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: am I going to spend eternity? And I just want
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: to share with the listeners what you need is faith
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  Speaker 11: alone in Christ alone. Don't take my word for it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: Read Romans, Hebrews, Galatians. It's all through the Old Testament,
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: all through the New Testament. Do not get trapped up
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: into all of this complexity of all these different doctrines
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: and dogmas and religions. Get into the front and back
• 33:19
  Speaker 11: cover of that Bible, and it is so much simpler
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: that you'll sleep so much better at night knowing, yes,
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: there is a future in heaven.
• 33:26
  Speaker 12: Take the gifts.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with everything you just said, Jay, I believe this.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: So praise Jesus for your contribution and your chiming in
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: this morning.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Give bat Man.
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: I appreciate what you do.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Have a good day.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. So people work extra hard. They
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: have to jump through so many hoops to prove there
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: isn't a God. I mean, they go a long way
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: around the truth to get people, to try to dissuade
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: people from what Jay was just talking about. I mean,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: they perform mighty calisthenics exercises for secularism for man, because
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: this is our existence now. But I believe, and Jay
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: believes many others believe that now is not all there is,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: and we're going to have to find another place. Each
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: individual person, not your flesh and blood, but your soul
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: is going to have to find a place and have
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: a place to go when we're done with this wink
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: of an eye existence that we're living right now. I
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: just think that's fascinating. We could talk about all the morning,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: but we won't. Necessarily, we are going to talk about
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: this settlement that the City of Cincinnati is ready to
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: rubber stamp at the meeting tomorrow. Let's see what they say.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: December night, there'll be a meeting and yeah, the City
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Council's Public Safety and Governance Committee tomorrow. Eight point one
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: million paid to four hundred and seventy nine plaintiffs. Two
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: million attorneys fees. Well, I don't know how many attorneys
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: worked on the case, but I bet there's not, you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: more than a handful. They get the two mill and
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: the plaintiffs get about twelve thousand, seven hundred apiece just
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: for getting arrested. I don't know, Sign me up, I
• 35:59
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  Speaker 4: who has made a an incredib career, built an incredible
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  Speaker 4: career out of writing about the history of this area,
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  Speaker 4: from the Mob and the people that controlled northern Kentucky
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  Speaker 4: to Larry Flint, to the pioneers who settled here, to
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  Speaker 4: Cincinnati's role in freeing of the slaves. It's an amazing
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  Speaker 4: piece body of work that he's put together, and now
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: he's taking readers on another magical history tour. That's the
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: title of his latest Peter Bronson joins us for a
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  Speaker 4: few minutes. Hey, Pete, how are you.
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  Speaker 12: Peter, I thought maybe you'd play Magical History Tour as
• 37:46
  Speaker 12: we came out.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. So tell me
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you've been very busy again with a new book out.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: This is a different kind of book than the other
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: history books you have written, but it still is along
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: the lines of historical notes and stories. These are five
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: short stories. You and I have talked about this about
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: local history that's been buried in more ways than one. Absolutely,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: so I know you probably talked to Brian about it,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: but just refresh the listener's memories on what magical History
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: tours about.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, this is, as you pointed out, a collection of
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: five short stories. And I know that readers often like
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: a book that they can dip into, and our tension
• 38:39
  Speaker 12: spans aren't what they used to be always, So anyway,
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  Speaker 12: this one has grave robbery, It has an adventure on
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: the Oregon Trail and the gold Rush.
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  Speaker 1: It has a.
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  Speaker 12: Story about Cincinnati's first serial killer, who incidentally was a woman,
• 38:55
  Speaker 12: and also the first woman's go to the electric chair.
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: And we have also a story about a couple of
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: Shaker women who were banished from the Whitewater village and
• 39:08
  Speaker 12: they showed up in Cincinnati for a week and then
• 39:10
  Speaker 12: they were found in a hotel room dead.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a mystery, there's adventure, there's local history. Is
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: just so full of great treasures and stories that I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: just loved get them endto it.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned grave robbery, and this was actually very very
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: This was a lucrative business for people who were willing
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: to do it. Talk about the history of grave robbery
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 12: Well, just since I wrote this book, I was contacted
• 39:41
  Speaker 12: by someone who read it who was a great friend
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: of mine, Lieutenant Stephen Kramer at the Cincinnati Police Museum. Yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: and he pointed out that there was actually a custom
• 39:51
  Speaker 12: that was known as burking, and this was when you
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: killed someone so that you could sell the body. So
• 39:59
  Speaker 12: there were grave robbers that were really in big business
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  Speaker 12: in Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, it was a.
• 40:03
  Speaker 12: Hub of grave robbery. They called them resurrection men or
• 40:08
  Speaker 12: body snatchers, and they would take the bodies and sell
• 40:12
  Speaker 12: them to the medical schools all over the Midwest, including
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: as far north as ann Arbor, Michigan. And they would.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Then also sell the clothes. So if you're looking for
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a bargain suit, you might think that it smelled a
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: little funny.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, Lord of my word, so go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 12: Oh well, yeah, this one was about the story of
• 40:39
  Speaker 12: the President William Henry Harrison. His son John Scott Harrison
• 40:44
  Speaker 12: was buried and in eighteen seventy eight after a sudden
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: illness and death, and he was stolen from his grave
• 40:52
  Speaker 12: this same night. And this happened to be not just
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  Speaker 12: the son of a president, but also the father of
• 40:58
  Speaker 12: another president, Benjamin Harrison. So this is the only man
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  Speaker 12: in US history who is the.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Father and who is the father of the president and
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  Speaker 1: the son of the president.
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  Speaker 4: That's amazing. That's amazing. And when you do this, and
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  Speaker 4: I've asked you this before, but I mean, are you
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  Speaker 4: just flipping on your phone and searching things. You've got
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: to actually search through documents. When you're detailing these hidden stories,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I mean you have to do a lot of dive
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: in and deep dives. And you pride yourself in not
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: having AI help you write any of your books.
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  Speaker 1: No, I do not use any assist I like the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: old fashioned style of reporting, which is a lot easier
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: these days thanks to the web, and I'm able, but
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I really love the research. It's fun to dive into
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: these things. And as you go deeper and deeper, you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: find little kind of detours or side paths, and you
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: follow that you find another treasure. So but there are, indeed,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: as you point out, great resources. There's the National Archives.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: There are first person accounts of a lot of these things.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: The original newspaper stories are great for assist. And we
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: have preasures in.
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  Speaker 12: Cincinnati for research, including the archives in the at the
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  Speaker 12: Museum Center, and that is a great source. And are
• 42:21
  Speaker 12: super staff of people down there for helping.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, is is that easy to access for just
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: the normal person? I mean, you're Peter Bronson for goodness sake.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: But if Joe Smith wanted to go to the Museum
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Center and and check out the archives, what kind of
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: process would you use if you're interested in something like that, I.
• 42:44
  Speaker 12: Would suggest as call and make an appointment, and anybody
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: can go a lot of people use that and other
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: sources for genealogical research, ancestry so forth, or just finding
• 42:56
  Speaker 12: out about their neighborhood. But yeah, sure, they're very great people.
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: The librarians there are super helpful and it's pretty easy.
• 43:05
  Speaker 12: But you know the thing is when you start to
• 43:09
  Speaker 12: do dig into some of this research, as the oak
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: Cleiche goes, it's like drinking out of a fire hose.
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: There will be so much information about these things that
• 43:18
  Speaker 12: you can't believe it. So just strap in and get
• 43:22
  Speaker 12: ready because the research is so much fun.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Now, you had a couple of book signings over the weekend.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: You've been very busy with that. Yes, and you have
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: an appointment with the ladies tomorrow. Tell me about that.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, I have a couple coming up I have Tomorrow
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: I will be speaking to the Northeast Republican Women at
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: the RSVP Center in Loveland, and then on Saturday, for
• 43:49
  Speaker 10: the general public, I will be doing a signing at Joseph.
• 43:52
  Speaker 12: Beth Bookstore or jose Best Booksellers, I guess is the
• 43:55
  Speaker 12: proper name in Rookwood, and I will be there from
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: one to three along with two or three other local authors.
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  Speaker 12: So that should be a good opportunity. If you want
• 44:06
  Speaker 12: to get a sign book as a gift for Christmas,
• 44:10
  Speaker 12: that's a great opportunity, or anytime somebody wants to go
• 44:13
  Speaker 12: to my website. Right now, I'm doing a special on
• 44:16
  Speaker 12: free shipping until Christmas, and these books are all signed
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: from the website as well.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Are you working on anything else right now now that
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: you've got this one.
• 44:24
  Speaker 12: Finished, well right now, I'm working on working with various
• 44:29
  Speaker 12: clients my company Chili Dog Press, which is also the
• 44:32
  Speaker 12: website chillydogpress dot com. My company Chili Dog does titles
• 44:37
  Speaker 12: for other authors as well. I do about twelve to
• 44:40
  Speaker 12: fifteen titles a year, so I have about right now
• 44:43
  Speaker 12: about six books in various stages of coming in for
• 44:47
  Speaker 12: a landing for some of my author clients. That keeps
• 44:50
  Speaker 12: me pretty busy.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: I'm still working on my manuscript, Peter for the story
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: of the career of Gary Jeff Walker out. I'll get
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: it to you all.
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  Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, absolutely, I can help you. I just happen
• 45:03
  Speaker 12: to know a publisher do Yeah, yes, I too.
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  Speaker 4: It's Peter Bronson's latest magical history tour with five short
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  Speaker 4: stories that will keep you turning the pages at chilidogpress
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  Speaker 4: dot com. If you'd like a sign copy and time
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: for Christmas, Pete can make that happen. Thank you for
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: making this happen. It's always great to talk to you, Peter.
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  Speaker 12: Always a pleasure to be with you too. Gary Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you have a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 4: named Robert Redfield? Back during the scamdemic, he was the
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  Speaker 4: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Commissioner. He was part
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  Speaker 4: of the Coronavirus Task Force back in November of twenty
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: twenty and into the rest of what we all live through,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: those of us who live through it. He says, now
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: COVID nineteen vaccines from Pfizer and Maderna should be pulled
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: from circulation. I really would like to see the mRNA
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: vaccine use curtailed, and personally, I'd like to see it
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: eliminated because I think there's too many unknowns. Pfizer and
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Maderna vaccines against COVID nineteen utilized messenger ribu nucleic acid.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: We've all heard of mRNA by now, right, and they
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: were the first vaccines or what I call vax genes
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  Speaker 4: because it's really gene therapy, not a vaccine to receive
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  Speaker 4: clears when the regulators authorized them in late twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 4: During the pandemic, he was the director. Redfield was of
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  Speaker 4: the CDC from March to twenty eighteen through January twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, the end of President Trump's first term.
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  Speaker 4: He says he's been treating patients who have so called
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: long COVID as well as people suffering from vaccine injuries.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: He says he still favors a protein based COVID nineteen
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  Speaker 4: vaccine from Novavax, but no longer advises that receiving the
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: mRNA shots, even though he thinks they prevented deaths among
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: seniors early on. I don't advocate mRNA vaccines anymore because
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: as you get to the idea of vaccine injury, when
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I give you an mRNA vaccine, what I do is
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: turn your body into a spike protein production factory. You know,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: and in all honesty, and mRNA vaccines had been in
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: development a long time before the pandemic kicked in. We
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: know this because Fauci was working on them. And we
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: know this because we also know taxpayer money from the
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: United States is being used at the virology lab in
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Wuhan for gain of function research that led to COVID
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: nineteen itself, which was a man made virus in a
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: lab that escaped from the lab, which many of us
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: suspected at the time, and now we've been proven to
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: be correct and vindicated for saying those things that people
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: at the time who were following the narrative and just
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: parroting whatever China and the Biden administration put out about
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: it because they were threatened if they didn't toe the line.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: But there's no way to know what these possible injuries
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: are going to be like at the time that everyone's
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: panicked and scared to death that the virus Boogeyman is
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: hiding underneath their bed and you can come within six
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: feet of someone and catch this dread disease that there's
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: no cure for, and all the other things that we
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: were spoon fed to rush us into a panic and
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: to make us adhere to the draconian mandates and restrictions
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: and closures everything that we went through. So there's no
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: way to you know what the vaccine injuries are going
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: to be long term until you've got some time behind it.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: We've had plenty of time now, and we see that
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: in many cases across them from embalmers who have studied
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: case after case after case of the bodies they're working
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: on with these large white fibrous clots that were never
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: seen before in dead bodies, almost never seen before the
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: introduction of the COVID nineteen vaccine, the mRNAs. We are
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: seeing that children who were at no risk from COVID
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: nineteen have died because of the vaccine. We've seen all
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: of that. So now Robert Redfield, who led the charge
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: during the first Trump administration to get the vaccines rolled out,
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: says now, lo and behold, the mRNA is really not
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: a good idea because it absolutely, in many ways, tragically
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: changes the human body. Man. I'm still glad I didn't
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: get any of the jabs. Six twenty five at fifty
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  Speaker 4: for Foreign Exchange and I've been endorsing foreign extant the
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• 51:42
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  Speaker 4: a little shotgun. On a Monday morning at six thirty
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  Speaker 4: Gary jeff In for Brian Thomas on the morning show.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: I'm fifty five KRC, the talk station that was for
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Tony Bender was going to talk to the hero of
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Sutherland Springs, Texas. Sutherland Springs, Texas. You may remember Stephen Williford.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: He was the grandfather who heard the gunshots going off
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: at the church just down the road from his house
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: and grabbed his rifle and chased the sucker down, finally
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: apprehending neutralizing the threat. Because he had the right to
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: own and bear firearms in Texas. He's become a spokesperson
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: for the gun owners of America and he's a great
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: guy to talk to. It the shame he didn't answer
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: his phone this morning, but I was going to talk
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: to him about HB thirty eight. And maybe you've talked
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: about it, maybe you know about it. If you're a
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: second amendments, I wouldn't call a fanatic if you believe
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: in the Bill of Rights and your right to own
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  Speaker 4: and bear firearms and that it shall not be infringed
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  Speaker 4: by the government as I do. HB thirty eight basically
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: refers to the Federal Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. This is
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: a bill that aims to allow you with a valid
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: concealed carry permit from your state to carry a handgun
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: in other states, preempting those state laws and establishing a
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: national standard. The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of twenty
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: twenty five so the federal HB thirty I I know
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: there's HB thirty eight's in the Ohio House, and that's
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: totally different. This is in the House of Representatives. It
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: creates a national standard for concealed carry, allowing eligible permit
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: holders from one state to carry in others. That concealed carry,
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: requires permit holders to carry an ID, be federally eligible
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  Speaker 4: to possess firearms, and allows for property owners to still
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: prohibit guns if they so desire. It was introduced just
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: a couple of months ago, placed on a Union calendar.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: But will they have the courage, the Cahunas to literally
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: stand by their guns and fire away at this when
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: they can't even fully fund the federal government. By the way,
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: that is coming up again after we live through the
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: shutdown that the Democrats were in charge of. So they're
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: arguing over the Obamacare tax subsidies again and the subsidized
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: healthcare for about seven percent of the country. It's about
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: twenty four million people that are on the Obamacare lists
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: the exchanges, and you know, healthcare premiums are going to
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: be skyrocketing here primarily because of Obamacare and the bailout
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: of the insurance companies. I always hear the Republicans talking
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: about a plan that they have. The Democrats' plan is
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: just to continue the subsidies for another full year, kick
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: the can down the road again, hoping that that somehow,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: someway they will find a way to make this kind
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: of fraud permanent. And there is absolute, abject fraud. All
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: you got to look is the fraud Minnesota Medicare and
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Medicaid subsidies just one piece of that over one billion
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: dollars that went to Somali terrorists courtesy of the government
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: of Minnesota. But it's happening nationwide. And if these Obamacare
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: the way they are now, if they're allowed to extend
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: for another year, the Democrats don't have a plan to
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: address the fraud that is rife with any government obese
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: government program, and any subsidies that they're paying from one
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: pocket out of one pocket to another pocket, to another
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: person's pocket. But do the Republicans have a plan. We've
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: heard of the healthcare accounts that people can start with
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: and just giving people money directly instead of to the
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: insurance companies, but nothing that says, Okay, we've got a
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: plan to make affordable health care a reality. For a
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: majority of Americans not seen it yet they say they do,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: but then where's the proof? So neither side's a winner
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: here is if you're looking at political parties and the
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: healthcare debate. But the Democrats will introduce keeping things the same,
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: keeping the fraud and the the same as it's been
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: through the continuance of the Obamaare Obamacare subsidies the Unaffordable
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Careless Act as I like to call it at the time,
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  Speaker 4: and still do or will the Republicans actually come up
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: with something with the President's help to bring costs down?
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Yet to be determined. Coming upon six thirty seven fifty
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  Speaker 5: Your holiday to do list?
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  Speaker 3: Can you launch?
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  Speaker 4: Well? Well, well, how are you doing this morning?
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Me?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned, and I'm concerned for myself because
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: the last I don't know, three four days have been
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: especially concerning for me because I can't seem to keep
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: track of my phone. Now, there have been plenty of
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: times that if I had my choice, I would just
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: leave my phone at home and not take it with
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: me and be tethered to the outside world every waking moment.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: That would be a dream. Because of work, my emails
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: on my phone. My contacts are on my phone. I
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: used to be able to memorize phone numbers and all
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: I had to do was dial it or see it
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: a few times, and it was burned into my brain.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: But you know, as well as I do that with
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: the people you talk to most often, those people are
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: already in your phone under their names, so there's no
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: cause to remember numbers on your phone. Well, after the
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: last three or four days, I'm seriously thinking about create
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: wading a hard copy on paper with all of the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: numbers of the people that are important to me work
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: wise or personally. Friday, I got up in the morning
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: before my other job, and I do work a couple
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: of jobs. Really getting too old for this kind of thing.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: And here's an illustration of how I'm getting too old
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: for this kind of thing. Got up Friday morning, early
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: early for me on a day that I don't have
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: to be up on the radio at six o'clock in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: the morning or whatever. Early for me is like eight o'clock.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: I got up at eight o'clock, have to work at
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: ten thirty eleven, have time to go to the store.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: Needed to go to the grocery store, so I went
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: to pick up a few items set up for the weekend,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: and I had my phone with me, and in the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: middle of the store, I pulled my phone out because
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: I wanted to check a recipe, and I was pulled
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: off to the side. I'm not one of those annoying
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: people that are in the middle of the aisle on
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: their phone and not paying attention and in everybody's way.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: I made sure that I pulled off to the side
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: because I saw something that I wanted to purchase. I
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that if I purchased this item
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: happened to be beef short ribs, that I had a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: recipe that I could because I'd never really cooked beef
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: short ribs before. So I'm checking the recipe for b OH.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: I like this one uses guinness to help raise the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: short ribs, very nice, and the myriad of other ingredients. Anyway,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: I look at the recipe, I pick up the short
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: ribs who are on sale, put them in the cart,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: and put my phone at the top of the shopping cart.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of a little there's a little desk
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: kind of there where you push the cart right below
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: that perfect size, perfect size for an iPhone. It there
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: went through the checkout, all my groceries, got to my car,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: and I I had to have left my phone there
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: in the cart, in the rack outside of Kroger. I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: get home, I can't find my phone. I'm running through
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: the house screaming like a madman because I know that
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: I don't have my phone and I must have left
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: it in the cart at Kroger. I immediately drove back.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: This is this by By this time, it's like nine thirty,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: so I'm running out of time before I be at work.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Get to the Kroger. Now nobody turned in a phone
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: went to the customer service desk. So I went back home,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: and this time I'm really panicked. I mean, my whole
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: life is in this phone. It's ridiculous. You may relate
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: to this. So ten fifteen, I've still got time to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: go buy the Kroger and just see if they've turned
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: in a phone. I get into the parking lot near
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: where I was parked before. I see one of the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: cart jockeys, one of the kindly people who bring the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: carts back inside the store for the next customer to use.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: I said, you didn't happen to find an iPhone, did you?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: He said, what color was the case? Instantly the light bulb,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: He's got my phone. He had my phone, I said, blue.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: Otter box kind of tore up on the end, he said,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: I just turned it into the customer service desk. Yes,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 4: thank god, my day was saved. I found my phone
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: that I just casually left in the shopping car. You
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: may have done this before next day. I have to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: be at work on the radio on Saturday morning. I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: thought I left my phone at home and I needed
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: it for a few key things while I was on
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: the air. Didn't have my phone. Went out, looked in
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: my car, no phone calling my wife? Is my phone there?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: She can't find the phone at home. Went back down,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: and I'd forgotten that i'd put it in the seat,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: didn't have the case on it, so I couldn't easily
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: recognize that a phone was underneath an envelope in the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: passenger seat of the car. So two days in a row,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: this is why I'm concerned. Two days in a row,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I have just kind of forgotten where I laid my
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: phone down. And it's this kind of stuff is happening
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: more and more often. Should I be concerned? That's my
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: question to you. If you listen to that whole diatribe.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Should you be concerned? Probably a better question, Gary Jeffan
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: for Brian Thomas this morning on fifty five KOC, the
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  Speaker 4: talk station. AH. It's the holiday season now disarmed the population,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: so it was easy for the Jihatas to take over
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: cities like London and the woke mayor. While it has
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: subsided under President Trump's second term through the power of
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: the American people rejecting it, for the most part, woke
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: is still running amok in the UK. It's talking about
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: our Second Amendment rights that we enjoy in this country. Well,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: they're challenged and threatened and still are in many states
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: and many jurisdictions. But overall, we have the right to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: own and bear firearms in this country, the country we
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: broke away from in a bloody revolutionary war. However, trying
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: to maintain they're under our thumb mentality on the citizenry
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: of Great Britain. You may have seen this story. A
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: British IT consultant faced arrest and multiple charges when he
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: got back home. He was on holiday, as the Brits
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: say in America, in Florida, and because he online posted
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: a picture of him obviously at a gun range. She's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: got the noise canceling headphones on in the picture holding
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: and firing a rifle. Police when he got back to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: Great Britain, because he made this post online, seized all
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: his devices, sparking debate on UK social media policy at
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: public order laws. They can arrest you in Great Britain
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: if you post a meme making fun of a politician,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: or a meme making fun or not exercising what in
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: their minds is a popular opinion on transgenderism, on the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: fact that there are only two sexes, which is scientifically true,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: psychologically true too. No matter what you think, you may
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: have a mental defect. But anyway, in Great Britain, it
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: was just a story that did not enrage me like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: enraged Elon Musk at the time. And by the way,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: the charges were finally dropped due to lack of evidence
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: against this guy. Good for him, but he wasn't even
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: in England. He was in America, where we enjoy freedom
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: and liberty, the reason we fought a seven and a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: half year war to break away from the monarchy and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: the authoritarian government of Great Britain. But anyway, the charges
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: dropped against John Richelieu booth and that's a good thing.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: But I mean, this is the kind of place that
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: Rosie O'Donnell and until they decided that the winners were
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: too cold. Ellen DeGeneres and her partner Portia moved there
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: because they couldn't stand the fact that we had a
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: king now in Donald Trump. And they'd probably be all
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: in favor of this guy getting busted for posting a
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: picture online of him shooting a gun where it's perfectly
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: legal and safe for him to do it. Amazing stuff.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: Ken Coober from the Cincinnati FOP the pres we'll talk
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: about Cincinnati's eight point one million dollar settlement to George
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Floyd protesters and further inhibiting the police's ability to do
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: their job and keep the public safe. That's all coming
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: up after the top of the hour. It's six fifty five.
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  Speaker 4: Joining us in this segment is President of the Cincinnati
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  Speaker 4: Fraternal Order of Police Ken Kober, to talk about the
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  Speaker 4: City of Cincinnati's eight point one million dollars of the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: George Floyd protesters. You remember all the fun we had
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty and Cincinnati, same fun they were
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: having around the country with people I don't doing really
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: really constitutionally protected things like blocking commerce in I seventy five,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: or blocking someone's path to work, or breaking windows, property damage,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: resisting arrest, Yeah, throwing urine bottles at the police, the
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  Speaker 4: whole PLM shakedown, which is what it proved to be.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: And the shaking is not done. They're still shaking them down,
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  Speaker 4: and the courts you're saying, and the City of Cincinnati
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: is saying, hey, we enjoy giving away taxpayer money to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: criminals and also changing the way police can handle protests
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: in the city of Cincinnati. To talk about all that again,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati FOP President Ken Kober joins us. Good morning, Ken,
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  Speaker 4: how are we doing and are you looking forward to
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: the rubber stamp that the city will give tomorrow to
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: the people that broke the law in twenty twenty during
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  Speaker 4: the summer of.
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  Speaker 13: Eight Hey, good morning, thanks for having me. First of all,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 13: that was not a protest. I was out there on
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 13: the front lines having rocks and bottlestone out us.
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  Speaker 14: Those were riots. They could call them whatever they want.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 14: That was an absolutely that.
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  Speaker 4: Was a riot. Yeah, no question. And I do remember
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: famously of the protesters marching out on I seventy five
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  Speaker 4: and blocking the interstate.
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  Speaker 13: You know, it's one of these things that it just
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 13: shows that a crime does pay in Cincinnati, and this
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 13: was a perfect example of that.
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  Speaker 9: But this was an epic failure by the law department.
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  Speaker 13: You know, anytime we have something like this occur where
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 13: there's going to be mass arrests, the law departments involved.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 13: They're the ones that advise the police department what we're
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 13: going to charge these people with. Unfortunately, some of the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 13: ordinances that they had on the books were absolutely antiquated,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 13: which is why now we have a problem with.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 9: Even prosecuting these people. So what do they do.
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  Speaker 13: They dismissed the charges and then what follows it, of course,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 13: a lawsuit, and that's where we're at.
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  Speaker 9: Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But any anyway, the rumor is, and I don't
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: know what you know about this, Ken, the rumor is
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: that they've been they've been certain they were going to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: do this. City council has been certain they're going to
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: do this, and we're before the election, but they never
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: brought that up until they made sure their butts were
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: safe in the seats and the voter didn't know about
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: it until now. Is that a true assessment?
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  Speaker 14: Sure?
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  Speaker 9: This has been going on for a year and a half.
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  Speaker 13: I know originally I sat in a meeting with the
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  Speaker 13: Solicitors Office, the police chief, a bunch of city officials.
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  Speaker 13: This would have been last ball August September last year.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, this is this has been going on. We
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  Speaker 9: know it's been.
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  Speaker 13: Going on, and it's just it's one of these things where,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 13: you know, do I think it was a smart financial decision? Now, yeah,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 13: it actually was because the city had a lot more
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 13: to lose. However, where the failure started was in twenty
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  Speaker 13: twenty when they're they're absolutely tell the police to charge
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 13: these people.
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  Speaker 9: With wrong crimes. But like I said, in these.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 13: Situations, the police go out there, you know, and Mayor Cranley,
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  Speaker 13: I'll give him all the credit in the world.
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  Speaker 9: He told the police department, make sure the city.
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  Speaker 13: Doesn't burn down. It's exactly what these men and women did.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 13: It went out, made sure that the city was safe.
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  Speaker 13: That you know, property was protected, life was protected. But
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 13: you know, the failure, of course was from city Hall,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 13: which isn't a surprise to many.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I remember at the time thinking to myself,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: with the riots that were going on in Cincinnati, I said, boy,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: at least we're not like Seattle. At least we're not
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: like Portland. And I think that John Cranley and the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: police did a fantastic job of keeping Cincinnati from as
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: you say, burning, And well, there was obviously violence and
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: breaking of laws. Maybe they were charged with the wrong laws.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Do you believe Cheryl Long when she
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: says that she's especially proud of our CPD officers. Does
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: she act like she's proud of our CPD officers on
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: a regular basis?
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  Speaker 14: You know, that's the hard part is words are one thing,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 14: actions or another.
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  Speaker 13: And this has always been my criticism as they will
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 13: stand in front of the camera and say how much
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 13: they support the police, but then you see things.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 9: Like this happen.
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  Speaker 13: And not all of this is on the current administration
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 13: because it was a different administration back then, but the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 13: message is still clearer. Crime does pay in Cincinnati. And
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  Speaker 13: what I fear is the next time some nonsense like
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  Speaker 13: this happens, it's going to further embolden people to do
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  Speaker 13: even more violent things. But you're gonna put cops in
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  Speaker 13: even more danger, and then what's the end result. They're
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 13: gonna fumble again, and before you know it, we're going
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 13: to be.
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  Speaker 9: Paying out more criminals for this.
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  Speaker 13: I'll be honest, if I would have known, if I'd
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  Speaker 13: have had the hindsight to see in twenty twenty that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 13: they were going to be paying these people on average
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 13: of thirteen thousand dollars a person to go and get
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 13: arrested and sit in a jail for three or four hours,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 13: I'd have had my wife and kids go down there,
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  Speaker 13: no doubt.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, that's I mean, it was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's twelve I figured it out earlier. It's four
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: hundred and seventy nine Playton plaintiffs six point what one
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: million goes to the plaintiffs, two million goes to the lawyers, which,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: as we know, that's that racket continues to rack it.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: You know, maybe you should teach your kids to go
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: to law school, Ken because they're going to get a
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: lot more than the planeiffs. But yeah, twelve seven hundred
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: something a person for a few hours of work and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: not honest work at that.
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  Speaker 13: The one thing I will say though, and I was
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 13: sitting at that sally port with a couple one hundred
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  Speaker 13: people waiting for these prisoners to be processed, and the.
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  Speaker 9: One thing stands true.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 13: As these people started talking about Cincinnati, and they're like, listen,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 13: as soon as we get out of jail, we're leaving here.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 13: We're gonna go to Columbus, We're gonna go to Indianapolis.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 13: They're not arresting people in those cities. So by the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 13: end of the day, say what you want about what occurred,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 13: the one thing that is absolutely true is the police
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 13: department kept this place from burning down. Oh yeah, And
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 13: I'm sure that these people would have done more than
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 13: eight million dollars worth of damage. So while it is this,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 13: it's disappointing, it's disgusting that they're paying these people. The
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 13: city had a lot more to lose than eight million dollars.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 13: If the police department would not have been there on
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 13: the front line is doing exactly what they did.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: As part of this settlement, there's a guidebook created or
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: going to be created, which in quote standardizes and formalizes
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: police operations during protests. What what do you think of
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: this guide book? And one of the attorneys in the case,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: Jacqueline Green, said the policy changes will benefit everyone, including
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: police officers, who now have clear guidance on how to
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: engage with large groups of people and and what does
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: those what are those guidelines entail? One of the ways
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: to uh engage with large groups of people is to
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: let them burn the city. I mean if that we've
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: gone to from arresting them, maybe on the wrong charges,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: to just letting them do whatever they want.
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  Speaker 14: Well, let me tell you about this these policy changes.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I would like to know what they are, because
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 13: I could tell you right now there are none. The
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: Cincinnati Police Department, our Civil Disturbance Response Team is one
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 13: of the best in the country. They deal with these
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 13: people that come out and protest nearly every week during
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 13: the summertime. They do a fantastic job and very very
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 13: seldom do they ever have any issues. Now this guidebook,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 13: all they're doing is taking what they were already doing
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 13: and putting it at a centralized location. One of the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 13: things that I did think it was interesting that this
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 13: ambulance chasing attorney brought up was that in the.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 14: Future, the police department should notify the jail in case
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 14: of mass arrest.
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  Speaker 9: I already have that procedure.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 13: But what I think is important is we would love
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 13: to if these people say, hey, listen, we're going to
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 13: come here this weekend. We're going to try to burn
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 13: your city down. If you give us advance notice, we'll
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 13: be happy to give the jail advanced notice that we're
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 13: going to be bringing in two or three hundred people
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 13: that are trying to create destruction. So if they want
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 13: to give us advanced notice, we'll be happy to let
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 13: the jail know. I mean, it's just that is one
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  Speaker 13: of the most ridiculous things that I've or.
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  Speaker 9: We need this change. We need to let.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 13: Us know that you're going to arrest a bunch of people.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 13: I mean, we had no idea that they were going
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 13: to come and try to burn our city down, but
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 13: we took care of it when the time came.
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  Speaker 4: It is the problem, uh, the people that were just
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: reelected is the problem the city attorney or the city
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: manager is where's the problem lie in your in your opinion.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 13: Well, this all came from the law department, and they
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 13: said these were decisions that were made in twenty twenty
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 13: and now we're facing the consequences of poor decisions that
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 13: were made by our law department. That's what this all
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 13: comes down to. It's not about our policies and procedures.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 13: Because they went out, they said it was other than
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 13: the first two nights, it got squashed pretty quick and
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 13: the rest of it was just people who refused to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 13: go home. Yeah, they enacted a curfew. You know, you
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 13: had some bad actors during the day. If you saw
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 13: what went on, people were protesting, the police stood there,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 13: they allowed them to protest, and it was primarily peaceful
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 13: during the day. The problem is as soon as it
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 13: got to be nighttime, then all the bad actors came
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 13: out and they're all the ones that went to jail.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I don't have a problem with any of that.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: You know, there are people who are just exhibiting and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: their rights to redress grievances with the government whatever things
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: that the constitution guarantees ken and then there are the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: people that are criminals who commit crime for the sake
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: they they're opportunists, and they're parasites on society, and they
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: should be put in their place, which is usually jail
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: at times like this. Keep up the good fight, man.
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  Speaker 4: It's good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for yours.
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  Speaker 9: Likewise, thanks for having me.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: You got it. Seven seventeen at fifty five KRC. The
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: talk station Prestige Interiors has been proving the Way Family,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: the FOP president on the city's eight point one million
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: dollars settlement with protesters twenty twenty and new police guidelines.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: And I asked can Kober where he laid the blame
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: for all of this, and he said, the law department
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: of the City of Cincinnati. Well, a guy was a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: vice vice mayor at the time during the John Cranley
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: administration and had a lot to do with law and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: public safety. Is with us on the phone to respond
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: to that and to talk about the city settlement and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: why it is hurtful going forward for the citizens of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati if he believes it is. Chris Smitherman, good morning,
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  Speaker 4: How are you, my friend?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend, how are you doing.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: I'm good. It's good to talk to. It's been quite
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: a while.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: It has been as nice to hear your voice, and
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show. You know, I want
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: to start off with just say Merry Christmas to you.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you, and you know, I get a lot of
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: I get a lot of happy Holidays, and I never
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: thought I would live to see that even saying Merry
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: Christmas was controversial at any level.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: Listen, I will, I will. I want to stop you
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  Speaker 4: right there, Chris, because and you're right, I say Merry
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: Christmas all the time, but if you say happy holidays,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Christmas is a holy day and that's where the word
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: holidays comes from. So what I say if somebody tells
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: me happy Holidays and instead of Merry Christmas, I say back,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: happy Holy Days because it is a holy day. So
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: that's the way. That's the way I get around that.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: You know, Well, that's okay, you know that, and that's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. I just you know, from my point to you,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: I think wishing you a merry Christmas, and wishing anybody
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: that I'm talking to a merry Christmas, no matter where
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: they are, whether they're agnostic or atheist or even another religion.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Because this is my faith, and I'm pronouncing that, you know,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: people will say, people will say Happy Hanukah to me,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not Jewish. So the reality is
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: I don't have a problem wishing anybody Merry Christmas and
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: I and I just know that this was one of
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: those small undermining steps because I've been listening to your
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: show and I really appreciated the caller who called it
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: and said, hey, the way to heaven is just accept
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Period. I agree. But
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: it's these small steps that are happening in our country,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: like no prayer in the school, you know, taking God
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: out of the anthem, you know, things like merry Christmas.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: And this is bad to say because these are things
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: that are being taught to our children. That's saying Merry
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Christmas is not being respectful. It's not the politically correct
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: thing to do. So all I'm pushing back on, you know,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: at my tender age is just to say Merry Christmas
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: to you, and Merry Christmas to anybody who is listening.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: And I am very fine with anybody saying Merry Christmas
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, me too. Praise the Lord, Merry Christmas, and
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if God is an underdog in
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: this society, my money's on God. I'll tell you that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: right now. So don't don't act like don't act like
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: God's not gonna win, because he always will. And in
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: this battle too.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: He always he always wins. And that's why it's so
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: important for believers to speak up and say Mary Christmas,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: because when we get to those pearly gates, whatever they
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: look like. I want to be one of those people
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: that said I made sure that I praised you, that
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't water down your birthday. And I was able
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: to look somebody in the eye who was a non believer,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: someone who was a believer, somebody who was in a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: different religion, whatever it was, and I was able to say,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: and I would say Easter and Christmas. There are arguments
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: of which one is most important, him rising from the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: dead on the third day or his birthday. But at
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, I wanted to start our program,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: and this spleens it by making it very clear, Merry Christmas,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: Gary jeff Man, and I don't even have to say
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Happy New Year, but Merry Christmas.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: No, Merry Christmas is enough. Oh Come Emmanuel, which means
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: God with us, and that's the point. Hey Christmas, Chris Smiderman,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: We'll take a break and come back and we'll we'll
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: get into some real spleen vent material when we return.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: On fifty five kr CV talk station, A Minute of
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: Hope is brought to you by the lender Center of
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  Speaker 4: Hope talking to Chris Smitherman, a Monday spleen ventch is
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: in order seven to twenty eight. Well, Chris, I I
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: love to say this. The floor is yours.
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  Speaker 5: This morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Brother. Let me say that the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: eight point one million dollar settlement. I think it's important
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: for the President of the FOP, for the police Department
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: and your listening audience to focus in on the word settlement,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: meaning the city didn't have to settle Gary Jeff. We
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: could have gone to trial. If I were the mayor,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: I would have gone the trial and allowed a jury
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: of the city's peers to determine whether those who had
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: broken windows, thrown yurin on police officers, those who broke
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: the law, someone who shot a police officer in the
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: head we had a ballistic helmet on, who would be
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: dead if they did not have a ballistic helmet on
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: that I would have taken this to trial. And so
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: this was a mayor who doesn't have a spleen. This
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: guy did not stand up because he's playing politics with
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: all of us. He's looking to his next election. He
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: didn't want to send the message to those who were
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: protesting as a part of his base. I'm going to
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: take you to trial, put you on the stand, and
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: ask you what you did. So remember this is called
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: a settlement. The mayor, nor the manager, nor the city
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: solicitor had to settle anything. You are very correct that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: the mayor hit the football like Charlie Brown. He was
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: hiding the dog on football from us during this election.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: They knew that they had already come to the determination
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: of a settlement and not going to trial to focus
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: on that. It doesn't matter. They should have allowed a
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: jury of their peers, a jury of the city's peers
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: in southwest Ohio, to determine whether the riots that were
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: happening in downtown were legal or not. But what we
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: do is we've got all these conversations, so we don't
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: want to do proactive policing. We're not talking about peaceful protest.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: We're talking about people who did things that caused our
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: officers to arrest them, and they absolutely are being rewarded, period.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: But this is about a settlement. You know. This is
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: like you know, if people get this, like everyday people
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: understand this. It's like the mayor waking up in his
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: car is repolled twice once at least in front of
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: city Hall. This is a guy that doesn't even know
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: how to manage his own checkbook, let alone the billion
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: dollar checkbook of the City of Cincinnati. So I'm not
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: surprised that he would say I'm not worried about it
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: because we'll just issue some judgment bonds, kick twelve thousand
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: dollars to each person, wish them, I don't know, happy holiday,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: and keep it moving. But that's what's wrong with city Hall.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: And everybody down in city Hall is on the same team.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: They will all coach sign on it. There will be
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: no descent on the settlement, meaning a member of council
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: could right descent. I did many descent when I was
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: a council They the mayor can't stop the descent. He
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: has to put the descent in and attach it.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 10: To the vote.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: You won't have anybody on this council the dissent on
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: settling the case. Absolutely, a member of councilors can say
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: this is the wrong decision for the taxpayers. We should
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: have gone the trial. But that's the problem. I agree
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: with with with the with the president of the FOP
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: that this lies in the heart of our city solicitor's office.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: But who's telling the city solicitor to settle the case.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: It's the mayor, it's the guy whose car was repolled.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: By the way, every elected official, including me, has to
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: file a financial report to the State of Ohio. Everybody
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: should be calling in or writing in to to Columbus,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: to the Ethics Commission, asking did this mayor disclose he
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: had any impairments, any judgments against him when he file
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: those reports over the last two years, because he should
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: have disclosed them to the State of Ohio. Now they're
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: not going to do a big thing about it. They're
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: not going to be it's not going to be a bit.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that these are the kinds
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: of things that should be on the report, Gary Jeff,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: because it tells you that our mayor is impaired, Meaning
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: a mayor that is facing financial issues can be bribed,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: He can jeopardize votes, he could move things in directions
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: in order for him to make get contributions to his
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: campaign or bribery, which by the way, City Hall has experienced.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: So you want to know that your mayor, that members
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: of council don't have judgments against them, they're not impaired,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: because that means every developer, anybody in the in the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: city who's doing business with the City of Cincinnati knows
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: that this mayor can't pay his own personal bills. That's
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: why you're supposed to disclose it to the state of Ohio.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: So yes, I can talk about the eight point one million,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: is about the settlement. It's at outrageous. I can say
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: that John Cranley did an excellent job in keeping our
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: city safe during that period of time. And I can
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: also say that John Cranley never had financial issues. He
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: always focused on trying to come with a balance budget.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: And this mayor continues to fail us. And by the way,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: in closing on this segment, we should have known about
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: those repossessions. We should have known that his cars were
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: being reposd prior to the election. We should have known
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: about this settlement prior to the elections. But guess what
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: voters elections have consequences.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Malfeasansa is no stranger, and we can keep going for
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: a few more minutes. Chris Joe tells me, we've got
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: the green light for more time, if you've got more time.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: But malfeasans is no new thing in the City of Cincinnati.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: You know, by AFTEP pure vall standard, Liz Rogers could
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: be mayor. I mean after she after she had two bankruptcies,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: and they gave her a restaurant at the banks.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: So that the matter of fact, look, that was one
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: of those deals that I voted know on, I got
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of pushback by some African American voters in
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati. But ultimately, let me make it clear,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: the city, No, the city didn't get their money back,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: which is what we were told. So that's number one,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no one on council that will ever ask
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: about it. Period number two that the city didn't shut
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: her down, Gary Jeff It was the state of Ohio.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: It was the same issue that she was experiencing in Hamilton,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: which is taking your sales tax, not surrendering it to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: the state, and then using that to cash flow the
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: operation of the business. So ultimately they said, hey, when
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: you collect the sales tax, turn it into us. She
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't doing that. They came downtown and put notices on
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: her doors and change on her door. So to the public,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: people were saying, oh man, the city councils shut her
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: down the city. That's not what happened. That state of
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: Ohio shut that business down for failure to turn over
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: her sales tax to them. That's it. It's not complicated.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: This was a person who obviously had trouble running a business.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: You're right, that's another example, and we can give many
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: examples over the years of the city hall trying to
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: pick winners and losers. But at the end of the day,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: it's rare to have a sitting mayor have their cars
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: reposed and at the same time do a settlement of
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: eight point one million dollars and tell the citizens that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: was our only choice. It wasn't we could have gone
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: to trial. It is exactly what we should have done.
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  Speaker 4: One point seven million Americans have their cars repossessed on
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: any regular basis every year in this country. Chris. But
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: my question is, and there are so many reasons why
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: that you know that this could be possible, why this
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: could happen, What is Mayor Purevoll's salary as mayor, it's it's.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Pretty I have a guessing around one hundred and twenty
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: five thousand a year. It's probably meant in about eight
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: eight or eight or eighty five hundred dollars every single month, right,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: something that most citizens will never see in their lifetime.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: Right. And I guess the navigator maybe it was costing
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: him about five or six hundred a month max. I
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: understand if somebody has a medical emergency or there's some
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: issue that just occurs out of the blue. But because
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: you are careless and mess up an auto pay for
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: one month, the repo company, the finance company doesn't come
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: and take your car away. This happened, This had to
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: happen over at least a three month period. It's usually
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: ninety days, and they will make every attempt to contact
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: you in the interim to tell you were interrears with
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: your car payment. So he was notified, he knew about it.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: It wasn't carelessness. He just didn't pay for three months, right, So.
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  Speaker 15: They at least three months, at least three months, because
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 15: it could have been four or five months, and they
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 15: knew that was the mayor, right, So you know that
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 15: they were trying to be as costs as they possibly
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 15: could be. And so you are so right, Gary Jeff.
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  Speaker 15: You know, for him to do an interview and act
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 15: like this is a thirty day scenario, he obviously was
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 15: not telling the truth. Period.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: I mean my period. Even my cable company even gives
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: me as much money as I'm paying them, and I'm
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: not happy about that, that's my fault. But my cable
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: company even gives me a fifteen day grace period to
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: pay my bill and there's no late fee.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, think about every citizen out there who's watching
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: this council raise their taxes right whatever it is, or
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: advocate for raising their taxes, their property taxes, city taxes, fees,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: whatever they are.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: A brand new fee, brand new feed just went a
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: new effect in certain places, from restaurants and hotels.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: That's right. So as we're processing this, the everyday person,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: let's make it real, gets up every day, goes to work,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: balances out their checkbook, lives within their budget for forty years, retires,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: then lives on some retirement and social security, and they
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: still pay their bills. They're paying for their medicine, everything,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: and they're never having their car or their house ever repode.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: This is an example of someone who doesn't know how
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: to manage their personal finances from a financial planner's perspective.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: And so this is the reality is we're again the
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: laughing joke right of the of the state, and of
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: the county and of the entire country, that we have
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: a mayor whose car is being repolled at the same
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: time they're advocating to raising our taxes, and they themselves
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: are voting to raise our taxes. It makes absolutely no sense.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: And then there by the way, look at the settlement
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: to you, Gary, Jeff, look for the fire chief. He's
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: coming up three to five million dollars for most likely
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Chief Washington. Look for Chief Fiji. There's going to be
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: a settlement there. So when we issue judgment bonds for
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: eight or ten million a city officials, if you're listening
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: to me, you might as well pump it up to
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: fifteen to eighteen million while you're in the bond market,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: because you're going to continue to pay out these kinds
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: of settlements based on the irresponsible decisions that are coming
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: from the administration.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: Well, the money tree will be bare again very soon, Chris.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: Maybe they can find another real road to sell.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: Chris Smitherman with the Monday Spleen event this morning, good stuff,
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  Speaker 4: Thank you my friend and Mary Christmas.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. Merry Christmas to you two.
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  Speaker 4: All Right, it's seven forty at fifty five KRC the
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: Talk Station.
• 1:38:16
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  Speaker 4: Fifty five KOs the Talk Station. Alright, seven forty five
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: if we can raise him. In the next few minutes,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: we'll talk to Reverend Jim Harden from Compasscare USA, which
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 4: is one of the leading emergency pregnancy centers in the country.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: And it appears as if he's calling back.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: And by the way, Compasscare USA has been in the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: news because it's been their locations. Their locations have been
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 4: in some cases, in one particular case, firebombed by the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: peace loving people who believe that a child in the
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: womb is not a child and doesn't deserve respect and
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: dignity and protection. Reverend Harden, morning, I'm sorry for the
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: early hour for you. I know you're on the West coast,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: and I know it's even before we had to originally
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: set this up, but it's so important that people know
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: the work that Compasscare USA is doing for the legal
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: rights of the unborn and for women all over this country.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: And it's such a pleasure to have you with us
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: this morning. So thank you very much, Reverend Harden.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, thank thank you, and may I say Merry Christmas.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. We just talked about this with another guest.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: We are spreading the Christmas joy of God with us,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: which is what what this means, this celebration means is
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: that God came to earth to experience the human life
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: and to teach us, and then to die and a
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: cross for our sins so we did not have to
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: face God's wrath. It's an amazing story and it all
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: starts with Christmas.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, it really is an amazing story. In fact, it's
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: so many I write about it a lot. In fact
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: I even wrote a book about why it's important. Like
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Christmas itself, the event and what Emmanuel God with us
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: means is so it drives our understanding of the value
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: of humanity. I mean, think about it. Jesus is God
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: in the flesh. He shed his blood, which is infinitely valuable,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: right because you know, God's dead in the flesh is infinite,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: and he's infinitly valuable. But what did he He assigned
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: a value to humanity to purchase us back from death
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: and sin, and that value was his blood, which means
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: that we're infinitely valuable. And we take that truth into
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: every relation ship that we have and into the way
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: that we understand humanity and how we should react to
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: each other. What have policies we should create, as you know,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: in terms of our government, we need to be more human,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: we need to rehumanize it. The way to do that
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: is to understand, to embrace the truth that humanity, by
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: virtue of the shedlold of Christ, is infinitely valuable.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what else is a kind of unique
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 4: analogy or another way to look at this, I think,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: Reverend Harden, is that people who believe, who don't believe
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: in the sanctity of human life, who you know, are
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: battling people like you every single day, and don't believe
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: that the unborn deserve respect just like just like they
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: do as human beings and the right to live. Are
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: like King Herod who found out that God was coming
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: to earth or that there was a gift from God
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: being born. So you know, he goes and he tries
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: to kill all the firstborn babies in all these families.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, do you find that that's that's a good
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: analogy or a good comparison to people who to people
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: who are you know, supporters of planned parenthood and and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: abortion as opposed to what you're doing with compace scare Usa.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's a perfect analogy. I mean, Herod
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: essentially killed children, boys two years and younger for the
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: purpose of maintaining his power. He was afraid he was
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: going to lose control and power because this new born
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: king was was prophesied and apparently had been born in Bethlehem,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: and so he didn't know where. So he just decided
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: to kill everybody, all the babies. And that's very similar
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: if you I mean, it's a very interesting analogy to
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: what abortion does today because for a politician, you know,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: you look at a pro abortion politician, like a Democrat,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: and you think, why are they so pro abortion. It's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: not because of women's health, it's not because of access
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: to health care. It's not because of you know, you know,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: the euphemisms they put on it, like reproductive choice or
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: rights or whatever. It's all about power. Can this issue
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: give them more power, and you've always got to be
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: you know, looking with you know, swinting with one eye
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: closed at a politician who's willing and wants to accrue
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: more power to him or herself, specifically absolute power. And
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: there is nothing more absolute in terms of power than
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: someone who has the ability to decide who lives and
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: who dies. And that's what abortion is to a politician.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 9: Power.
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  Speaker 4: What's uh, what's the latest done on your battle for
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 4: the rights of women and the rights of unborn children
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: that compass secure USA? What are you working on right now,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: Reverend Harden?
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Well, right now, we've got multiple lawsuits just to stay
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: open against you know, some of these pro abortion politicians
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: like Leticia James A. Traine, and a lot of New
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: York like a Kafi Hokal Governor of New York, like
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Mayor elect New York City Mayor elect Mandami. He vowed
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: to attack us using New York City Local Ordinance Rule
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: seventeen to force us to carry the kind of political
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: water of messaging saying that hey, these are the these
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: are the these are the We don't provide abortions or
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: refer for abortions, but you can get an abortion somewhere else,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, instead of giving free services to him,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: free medical care, et cetera, they want to shut us down.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: The Pro Life Pregnancy Center Network in America gave away
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: nearly half a billion dollars worth of free services last year,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: and Compass Care, you know, is giving away millions of
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: dollars worth of free medical care and community support to
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: whom facing on planned pranks. Because there's not a sane
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: woman alive who actually wants to have an abortion. She
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: just feels stuck. And so what we do is give
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: her a vision of our future after having had a child.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: You know, it's possible you can do this and continue
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: your career. It's possibly you can have this baby and
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: continue your education. But we've got to continue to fight
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: these these rabid pro abortion politicians because quite frankly, they're
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: they're Marxists, Marxist pro abortion public and what a Marxist
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: basically is the primary tenant of a Marxist is an atheist,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: someone who doesn't believe in God and puts government in
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: the position of God to determine what is right and wrong,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: what is the purpose of mankind? And a cruise to
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: itself and in themselves again absolute power.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: So who dies?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And they don't want anybody out there saying
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: that there's there are relationships that humans are supposed to
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: have that take precedent over their humans relationship to government.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: For example, my relationship with God should take precedent over
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: my relationship with government. God is the is the one
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: who gives me an understanding of what it means to
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: be human. God is the one that helps me understand
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: what was good and what is right, what is wrong,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: and he empowers me to act on what is good
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: and to walk in right relationship with him and in
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: right relationship with other people. And so when you take
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: God out of the equation, I mean, we're not we
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised that everything starts to fall apart, because
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: now everyone becomes their own, you know, their own standard
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: of what right and wrong is, and that we've got
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: chaos going on. And when you've got government employees and
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: you've got bureaucrats and elected officials all saying that the
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: primary core value humanity is absolute personal autonomy, Go and
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want. There can be no basis for
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: civilized order. And so we've got to find a way
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: to get back to God so we can recivilize this country.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: And that's what I think this next election is going
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: to be all about. And twenty twenty five was an
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: amazing year Gary, an amazing pro life yere. Quite frankly,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: so much has happened to protect the lives of preborn
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: boys and girls, not just in terms of the federal government,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: the internation. Our role in funding abortion internationally as Americans
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: has has been has been. It's come to a halt,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: which is fantastic thanks to President Trump. You know, things
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: have happened at the state level too to regulate abortion.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: But it's also galvanized pro abortion politicians and pro abortion
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: activists to their cause. And I think they're going to
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: double down on abortion come twenty twenty six in the
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: midterm elections. It's going to be very interesting to see.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: But we have to we have to understand that Democrats
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: figure out, they figured something out. They figured out that
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: that voters respond to a moral vision, whether it's right
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: or wrong, they respond to a moral vision. They like
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: to have the debate. So let's do that we as
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: as Christians have the moral vision, and that our moral
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: vision is God who created mankind and created us in
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: his image to reflect his character and his nature back
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: to him and to each other. And that is found
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: in Christ. And now in the Christmas season, we can
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: remember that.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 4: The Bible says, I knew you before you were in
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: the room. Compass Care USA for people to find out
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: more real quickly, Reverend, how do they get in touch
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: with you?
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah? If people want to find out more about how
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Compass Care is saving women and babies from abortion, they
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: can go to Compasscarecommunity dot com. It's Compasscare community dot com.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time in Merry Christmas
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: to Reverend Jim Harden. Are breaking back at seven fifty five.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: This report is sponsored by Staple. Good Morning, Chris to
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: two point zero. My wife. You know, I mentioned to
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: Joe Strecker during the break, it's a very christ centered
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: show this morning. I mean I did set out to preach.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 4: But for the second guests in row, we have another
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: reverend on, a pastor and a guy that I became
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: really really fond of after meeting and talking to on
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: the air, And you know, it's it's weird that we
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: have him on next because we just had Reverend Jim Harden,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: who's the head of Compass Care USA, which helps women
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: who are pregnant in their pregnancies emergency Christian crisis centers
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 4: around the country that give women an alternative to abortion
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: from a Christian way of helping. And this is one
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: of the most pro life people I know. Are there
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 4: any more on the way Corey.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: Funny?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 16: First off, Good morning, Mary, Chris. Thank you so much
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 16: for having me on Funny. You mention that I'm actually
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 16: just getting out of the gym and I want to
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 16: pick up diapers right now. So a lot of people
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 16: you know that you gain ten pounds with each pregnancy,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 16: but they didn't tell you gained twenty pounds with every campaign.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 16: So I'm working that off before Christmas hits you.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: You got a lot of good dinners out of it,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 4: did you.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: So first and foremost, the man you ran against for
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 4: mayor Cincinnati and albeit you're you're here on the radio
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: and he's trying to explain repossess cars. The mayor who
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: wound up winning the reelection, I have to have pure
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: Vall has some problems making his bills, and you know
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: how hard it is. You've got a family, you've got
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: a business, you've got a congregation, and you know it's
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: tough out there. So I mean, we all have problems
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: making ends meet. In today's society, things cost a lot
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: more and sometimes times we go over budget. Do you
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: ever ever have a problem with having a hard time
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: making making ends meet?
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  Speaker 16: Corey, Well, I think like many people you know in
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 16: our nation and the world, you know, you find times
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 16: where you're it's harder than normal, or you might have
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 16: an insinuating circumstance. I believe, you know, it's crazy. I'm
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 16: actually following some very good friends of mine this morning.
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  Speaker 16: I heard Christopher smith Aman on your show and then
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 16: Officer Ken Kober on your show earlier, and they all
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 16: had valid points. You know that you know, when it
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 16: comes to repossession and when it comes to all this,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 16: you get multiple notifications. To be honest with you, in
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 16: the time that we're in the companies try to make
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 16: it as easy as they can because they don't want
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 16: to repossess, so they don't want to foreclose on things.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 16: And so yeah, that's an important thing to try to
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 16: have a handle on your finances, especially if you're over
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 16: a one point nine billion dollar budget over the next
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 16: you know, fiscal year. And so I think the biggest
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 16: thing that I came across though, because no matter what
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 16: I found out my first campaign, they're always going to
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 16: come after anything they can find on you, any dirt
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 16: that they can find. Oh yeah, but the reports that
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 16: I'm seeing with especially with what's gone on recently in
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 16: our city with the repossessions, or even with the eight
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 16: point one million dollar settlement that happened with the protesters
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 16: from or the alleged protesters from twenty twenty. To my knowledge,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 16: all of this stuff was known before the election, but
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 16: somehow it didn't get report on during the election. However,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 16: there was a lot of hit pieces on me in
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 16: a lot of the same publications.
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  Speaker 4: So what you're saying, essentially is that the people who
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: were in power before the election, who are still in
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: power now may have had their hands on the levers
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: of the information somehow that as you mentioned people when
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: you for office, I mean, Corey, there is a good
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: reason that I've never run for political office outside of
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: the fact I don't need to complicate my life like that.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: There's a good reason I know where all the skeletons
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: are in my closet, and I don't particularly like airing
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: that out in public. I'll confess my sins. But you know,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: they find stuff that you were never guilty of that
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: they dig up. And yet this is a matter of
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: public record, and it happened not once, but I understand
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: for mister Pureval it's happened a couple of times that
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: he forgot about his auto pay or what something else.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I mean in this, like I said, in
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 16: these politics, they're going to come after everything. Now a
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 16: lot of people, what I find is on the opposite side.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 16: They take it as like, oh, I'm going to take
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 16: the moral high ground in that, like I've never had
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 16: any financial challenges. My point would be that the reporting
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 16: on it didn't come until after the election. However, you know,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 16: the investigative reporters that you know had called my business
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 16: multiple times, that had called my home multiple times, that
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 16: you know, reached out to our church multiple times. I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 16: don't I think that these documents are these types of things.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 16: Even with the settlement that we're hearing that this could
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 16: have been fairly easily found in public records. On the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 16: other side, however, that stuff was quietly put under the
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 16: rug until after November fourth.
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  Speaker 4: What have you heard from law enforcement Corey regarding the
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: new policy guidelines for protests that are included apparently in
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: this settlement that they're going to rubber stamp tomorrow that
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: they knew about before the election, you know, along with
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: the money obviously. But this just opens the door for
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 4: any other group of people who want to commit crime
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: in the name of what they call protests. And it
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: not only means they got a green light to commit
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: those kind of crimes, breaking windows, throwing urine bottles at
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: officers in the like, but there might be a payday
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: in case they get arrested later on down the line.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 4: But what have you heard from law enforcement on this settlement,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: if anything.
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  Speaker 16: Well, I'll say this that you know, you said that
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 16: this opens the doors. This is giving a green light.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 16: Those doors have been opened for a long time. Actually
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 16: keep keeping open. That light has been Yeah, that light
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 16: has been green for a while. That's why we ran
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 16: our race on public safety.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 16: I continue to talk with officers, and I think people
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 16: people don't realize the importance of morale within the police force.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 16: And when the morale is already low and then you
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 16: have a settlement like this that basically says these officers
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 16: put their lives on the line during these times where
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 16: you know, during the day they were simply just maintaining
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 16: they weren't, you know, trying to cause any problem. And
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 16: a lot of the protesters, you know, people have the
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 16: constitutional right to protest and we shouldn't be against that.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 16: But when officers are trying to do their job and
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 16: then they get slapped on the hand because of it,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 16: or even worse, they get reprimanded or they basically get told, hey,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 16: your job doesn't really mean anything, that morale goes low.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 16: We're seeing that with the judges, the progressive judges in
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 16: Hamilton County are just allowing criminals to be back on
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 16: the streets. And the one of the biggest things I
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 16: heard from officers throughout the year was we don't even
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 16: see the point in arresting many times because these people
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 16: are just going to be right back out on the street.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 16: And when we say that we say repeat criminals, we
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 16: know that a lot of these are repeat offenders that
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 16: keep on coming. They're always going to cause trouble and
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 16: there's no consequences to that. You know, the crime in
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 16: our city is done by a very small handful people.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 16: I'm telling you that right now puts a stain on
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 16: the entire city, but it can be easily fixed by
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 16: just allowing the officers to do their job, the escalation tactics,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 16: approaching properly, enforcing low level crimes to cause the escalation,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 16: and then also putting pressure on the judges. And I
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 16: think the number one, the absolute number one thing that's
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 16: wrong with our city public safety right now is understaffing.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 16: I'm going to preach that over and over and over
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 16: that any organization that is twenty percent understaffed cannot adequately
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 16: take care of its job like it should. And that's
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 16: what's happening with our CPD. They're swimming, they're trying to
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 16: gasp for air every weekend, trying to take care of
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 16: this city. They love our city, they want to protect
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 16: and serve, and they don't feel like anybody has their
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 16: back from city Hall, from the law departments, or from
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 16: any other sector of the city.
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  Speaker 4: More with Pastor Corey Bowman and unjust a moment at
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: take fifteen at fifty five KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham here, you may wonder how much money should
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: you have in your mercay.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: Rs the talk station. We're talking with Corey Bowman gone
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: from candidate Bowman to citizen Bowman again, a pastor Bowman,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 4: businessman Bowman. What did where's your coffee shop? In business
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, Corey? Had you guys started yet?
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 16: We had just started our church in twenty twenty and
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 16: then we start our coffee shop in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: All Right, the protests, which, like I said, we have
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  Speaker 4: a constitutional right to protest in this country. It's one
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 4: of the great things about America. But we don't have
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 4: a constitutional right to prohibit someone else from exercising their
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: constitutional right to move, to do commerce, to go to church,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 4: and all of that. Twenty twenty was a tough year
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 4: in many ways to start a business or a church
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: or anything because of some pretty insane restrictions that were
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 4: put on the population and mandates that were enclosures and
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: all the rest. Anyway, as a citizen of Cincinnati in
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty, how if it all did the rotest, the
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 4: protest and the violence that was associated with these riots,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 4: as ken Kober called them, see writing is not constitutional.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: But how did they affect you as a citizen?
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  Speaker 16: Cory Well, I would say that this is actually what
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 16: started our church. Gary Jeff because for us, many people
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 16: might not know this side of the story for our life,
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 16: but many people knew me as a coffee shop owner
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 16: in the West End and a candidate for mayor and
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 16: obviously j Vice President jd Vance's brother. Yeah, but what
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 16: got us to Sinant because I grew up in the area,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 16: but I had gone to Tampa, Florida to study ministry,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 16: and during that time, I always knew that I was
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 16: coming back to Cincinnati. And then what happened was that
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 16: I had a pastor that got arrested for having church.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 16: You know, pastors these days get arrested for many things,
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 16: and you're always wondering, oh, Dear God, what they have
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 16: their hands into. But my past we were our church
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 16: that we were a part of. We fed a thousand
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 16: families a week, we were doing outreach, we were helping people,
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 16: and the local government, through the city council and through
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 16: the mayor and the county sheriff. We're trying to shut
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 16: down churches in Tampa, Florida at that time. Well, my pastor,
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 16: you know, politely respectfully refused because we couldn't shut the
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 16: doors down to helping people. And then to make an
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 16: example out of them, they arrested them at his home,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 16: sent a helicopter to his house and arrested them. Now
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 16: the charges were dropped because of the Constitution, and also
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 16: the governor de Santus came up and said churches are essential.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 16: No pastors are.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: Going to be arrested.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 16: During that time, that started something in us because my hometown,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 16: Cincinnati was going through many things where they were trying
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 16: to shut down businesses. All the riots were happening. And
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 16: when that happened, you know, your heartbreaks for people. I
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 16: looked at my wife and I said, we have to
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 16: start our church now. So we start our church November
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 16: of twenty twenty, in the middle of all those mandates.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 16: And within the first week of our church, we were
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 16: going out to the arts apartments in the West End
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 16: and other areas and distributing meals and groceries and clothes
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 16: and toy giveaways. And we've been going. We actually just
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 16: celebrate our five year anniversary and I tell people thank you,
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 16: and I tell people we started in rebellion. You know,
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 16: we started by basically saying no churches are essential. We've
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 16: got to help people no matter what, and we can't
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 16: bow our knees to a tyrannical government, whether it's local
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 16: or any other level.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, render into Caesar. What is Caesar's render under God?
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 4: What is gone?
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: And you guys absolutely.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 4: You know, demonstrated that through faith and through action both.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 4: How do how do we address the continued violence in Cincinnati?
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 4: I hate to call it gun violence because you know
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 4: what I've talked to people before that our Second Amendment enthusiast.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 4: In other words, they appreciate the fact that we have
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 4: a god given right to carry and to own firearms. Corey,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 4: as citizens, as law abiding citizens, How do we get
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 4: a handle in this violence? And you talked about the
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: recidivism rate of people who continue to commit crimes because
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 4: of the revolving door in the justice system. I think
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: the recidivism rate on violent crime is about eighty seven
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 4: percent of the last figures I saw. So how do
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 4: more shootings to you know, more shootings this week and
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 4: over the weekend, and somebody died because of this violence?
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 4: It's really it's it's a cultural thing that we need
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 4: to get ahold of. And and can we stop calling
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: it gun violence because it's simply violence that if they
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 4: committed with a gun, it's fine. They outlawed guns in
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 4: Great Britain, and there are stabbings in what they call
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: the Tube almost every week in London.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 16: Well, you know what, Gary Jeff. Over the last year,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 16: not only were we campaigning for our local race, but
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 16: we got a chance to go to a lot of
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 16: dinners and events of whether it be state or national
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 16: figures running for political offices as well. And at many
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 16: of these dinners and fundraisers or rallies, whatever you want
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 16: to call them, there's always a question and answer session.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 16: And I found it funny because I'm I'm a you know,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 16: I'm a Christian. I'm a father and a husband first
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 16: and a pastor, and then everything that we do in
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 16: our lives is dictated by that vision for our life
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 16: of just helping people through the power of God. And
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 16: as I was at these events, I found it kind
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 16: of interesting that every question was always related to, you know,
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 16: very key things that we're dealing with in our country
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 16: with UH, with violence, with public safety, and also with affordability,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 16: with jobs, with a lot of things that people are
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 16: suffering with right now. And you're a lot of people,
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 16: what I say is that you're looking to when you
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 16: have a spiritual crisis going on in the country. A
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 16: lot of people, you know, try to figure out whether
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 16: they should worship government or not. And when I say
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 16: worship government, it's like they look to the government for everything,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 16: for their source of supply. They look at that for
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 16: to fix everything. There's administrative things that every government needs
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 16: to fix, and just focus on their jobs. Stop trying
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 16: to play national politics or trying to, you know, use
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 16: it as a platform for bigger aspirations. Just do your
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 16: job and keep the streets clean and safe, prosperous. You know,
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 16: when it comes to the violence in our savity, administrative
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 16: capability is make sure your cops are properly staffed, make
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 16: sure that they can enforce in a way to where
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 16: there's de escalation. Make sure the judges are held to accountability.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 16: And then make sure that the officers have a role
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 16: in the community that they're not just seen as the
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 16: worst case scenario, bad guys, but they're there to protect
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 16: and serve the community. But ultimately, all these questions that
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 16: I've heard over dinners and fundraisers, all these questions that
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 16: we're asking ourselves right now, whether people want to realize
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 16: they or not, it all comes down to a spiritual crisis,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 16: and we need a spiritual revival in this country. We
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 16: need people to turn back to God. We need to
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 16: establish the family unit, fathers in the home, allowing people
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 16: to work for a living, providing jobs when necessary, to
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 16: be able to give people helping hand up, not just
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 16: a handout, but a hand up, and all that in
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 16: my mind, because I've been at some of the lowest
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 16: points you know, throughout my life at times, and the
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 16: thing that always brought me up, and the thing that's
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 16: always brought everybody else up that I talk to, that
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 16: is worth anything, all comes back to turning your life
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 16: over to Jesus Christ. And my job isn't to force
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 16: Jesus on everybody. My job is to tell people, Hey,
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 16: this is something that has changed my life. I would
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 16: encourage anybody that's listening right now. Maybe you've never given
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 16: your life to Jesus, or maybe you've never actually taken
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 16: that step to step into a church because you think, hey,
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 16: I don't I'm not right, or I'm not ready for
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 16: Jesus yet, I'm not clean enough for Jesus. That's like
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 16: me taking my car to a car wash and saying, oh,
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 16: it's too dirty to take it to the car wash.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 16: I got to clean it up first, you know, coming
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 16: to Christ. Coming to Christ is coming as you are,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 16: and then allowing him to be able to make your
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 16: life better. And that's what he's done for me and
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 16: my family. And I would encourage everybody I think about.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 16: You know, I think it was the night before the election,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 16: Gary Jeffson, you gave me a call and me and
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 16: you just prayed over the election, and there was so
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 16: much peace in my home at that time. And I'm
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 16: so thankful for brothers like you that are encouraging in
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 16: every way, and I think people need more of that
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 16: more than anything.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: Pastor Bowman, Hey, you know what, that may be more
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 4: important than saying, Mayor Bowman, Pastor Bowman, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 4: To use her all right, thank you so much. Jim
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: Ornaesi will join us next. I'm sure it'll be a
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 4: totally different conversation. Eight twenty eight. Nice enough to get
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 4: up this morning and talk for a few minutes to
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: help me fill out this show. A former congressman and
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 4: candidate Jim Rinesi, who's a businessman and an entrepreneur and
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 4: has his fingers on the pulse of what goes on
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 4: in Washington. DC, which is why he washes his fingers
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 4: quite often. Good morning and Merry Christmas, mister RAINECI, how
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 4: are you? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to put him on. Jim,
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 4: How are you?
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: Good morning?
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 16: How are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm fine, Just got to hit the right button. So
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  Speaker 4: a couple of things that I wanted to address with you.
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  Speaker 4: Number One, Today, the Supreme Court is hearing the Trump
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  Speaker 4: versus Slaughter case, which of course refers to Rebecca Slaughter,
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  Speaker 4: who was the fired Federal Trade Commission employee by Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: And that's an issue in this current case. And what
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: the Supreme Court is going to decide ultimately is the
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  Speaker 4: limits or maybe the limits of executive power when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to these federal agencies that are under the executive branch.
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  Speaker 4: But because of something called Humphreys Executeur that was a
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  Speaker 4: decision back in nineteen thirty five during the FDR administration,
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  Speaker 4: prohibits the president from removing the heads of independent agencies
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  Speaker 4: without cause. And there's been a slow and steady march
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  Speaker 4: in the Supreme Court under John Roberts going back to
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  Speaker 4: twenty ten that has in many cases people say on
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 4: the left has given the president too much presidential power
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  Speaker 4: and that the court and their conservatives may say that
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  Speaker 4: the president has unbridled power to fire these agency heads.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, last year we had the Chevron decision that
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  Speaker 4: of course limited these agencies' powers to usurp Congress and
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  Speaker 4: the like. As far as I'm concerned, if you're an
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  Speaker 4: employee of one of these alphabet agencies and they fall
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  Speaker 4: under the executive branch, shouldn't the executive have the right
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  Speaker 4: to decide who he wants working for him in these agencies?
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  Speaker 17: Well, Gary, and again I don't disagree with you in
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  Speaker 17: the business world, but the problem is we're in the
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  Speaker 17: political world when you get to DC, and what we
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 17: have to expect if this is the case, if the
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  Speaker 17: president can fire everybody and replace them, that you will
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  Speaker 17: have an seesaw approach over the years with different presidents,
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  Speaker 17: which I think is really the reason why they said
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  Speaker 17: these independent, dependent agents should be allowed to serve out
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  Speaker 17: their term. And they're given terms and it goes over
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  Speaker 17: sometimes two or three presidents. So in the end, if
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  Speaker 17: you give one power and I think this is what
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 17: we have to be very very careful of. I mean,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 17: the assumption when President Trump files these lawsuits is that
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  Speaker 17: he's going to be in office for the rest of time.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 17: But you know there will be a Democrat, there will
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 17: be somebody we don't like, and then when they're firing
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  Speaker 17: those people, we're going to say, well, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 17: that's not right. So I think there is a reason
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  Speaker 17: to have this these terms that you know, you can't
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  Speaker 17: terminate somebody without a cause, and I think in many
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  Speaker 17: cases we should keep those in place, especially when even
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  Speaker 17: like the head of the Federal Reserve. I mean, President
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  Speaker 17: Trump appointed this guy. Now he's trying to fire him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well again, the American people voted in great numbers
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  Speaker 4: to elect someone again as president who built his career
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  Speaker 4: at least in the public donating not only buildings, but
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  Speaker 4: telling people they were fired on TV. And you think
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  Speaker 4: about that for a second.
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  Speaker 17: This is so true. And I got to tell you
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  Speaker 17: a funny story. I was after I left Washington. I
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 17: was asked if I would serve in President Trump's one
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  Speaker 17: of the cabinet positions or one of the positions that
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  Speaker 17: he oversees. And a friend of mine called me and said,
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  Speaker 17: I remember there are twos that two things that you
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 17: will be if you ever asked to serve under President Trump.
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  Speaker 17: I said, what's that He goes you either be fired
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  Speaker 17: or soon to be fired.
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  Speaker 1: I had to laugh about that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the been there been a lot less firings within
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  Speaker 4: the cabinet than there were during President Trump's first term
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  Speaker 4: in office, because this time he surrounded himself with people
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 4: who are loyal and he knows that, and he knows
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  Speaker 4: the ropes about around the Beltway in sixteen hundred Pennsylvania
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  Speaker 4: Avenue much better than he did the first time around.
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  Speaker 4: We can all agree on that. I want to get
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  Speaker 4: into the Venezuelan drug boat controversy that has been the
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  Speaker 4: latest cause to celeb for Democrats, people on the left
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  Speaker 4: in Washington, and will if you will indulge me, Jim
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  Speaker 4: and hang around for another segment, we'll talk about that next.
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  Speaker 4: Is that okay?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 4: Eight thirty seven fifty five KRC the talk station. Do
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  Speaker 4: you own a small business? A seismic shift is coming.
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  Speaker 4: It's Jim Ornacy, our guest for the next few minutes
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  Speaker 4: on this Monday morning, Gary Jeffen for Brian Thomas and Jim.
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  Speaker 4: You know President Obama famously sent cruise missiles and killed
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  Speaker 4: thousands of people when he was president without any approval
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  Speaker 4: from Congress. Well, Bill Clinton blew up an aspirin factory
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of the Monica Lewinsky scandal just to
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  Speaker 4: divert people's attention away from what was going on in
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  Speaker 4: the Oval office. President Trump and his Secretary of War
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  Speaker 4: Pete Hegseth now being their feet held to the fire
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  Speaker 4: on the President's policy regarding blowing up drug boats from
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  Speaker 4: the Caribbean from international waters as a matter of national security,
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  Speaker 4: because drugs that are coming into this country from out
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  Speaker 4: of country, particularly fentanyl, are killing two hundred thousand people
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  Speaker 4: a year, or were when we had an open border,
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  Speaker 4: and the drugs are, of course are still coming in.
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  Speaker 4: Is this another made up controversy or are the Democrats
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  Speaker 4: Do they have a leg to stand on in their arguments?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Lork, I.
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  Speaker 17: Think anytime the president does something like this, Congress is
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  Speaker 17: allowed to ask questions. I mean, you mentioned Obama and
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  Speaker 17: I can tell you we myself and others asked the
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  Speaker 17: same questions when he made those strike. So yes, it
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  Speaker 17: does happen. Congress has the right for oversight. There are
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  Speaker 17: some Republicans asking questions as well, you know Randall, Mike
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  Speaker 17: Turner here in Ohio, Mike Round's Tom Tillis, Jim Justice.
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  Speaker 17: They're all asking the same thing, and I think they're
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  Speaker 17: very concerned about the second strike on survivors, which you
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 17: know is interesting as well. So I do think there's
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  Speaker 17: that's one thing Congress is supposed to have oversight. They're
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 17: supposed to be able to, you know, take a look
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  Speaker 17: at what this president's doing, but also what any president's doing.
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  Speaker 17: And I think we always have to realize the President Trump.
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  Speaker 17: I said it earlier in the segment, President Trump's not
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  Speaker 17: going to be around forever. There's going to be a
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  Speaker 17: Democrat president there at some point in time, and Republicans
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  Speaker 17: are going to be asking similar and same questions, which
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  Speaker 17: they have the right to do. Congress has that right
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  Speaker 17: of oversight.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's a difference between asking questions and suggesting that, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's not how they were killed, it's the way that
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  Speaker 4: you killed them. I mean, there have been a lot
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 4: of drug smugglers who have been dead with these strikes,
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  Speaker 4: and the fact that, oh, it's awful that they took
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 4: a second bite of the apple when they found out
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 4: they didn't really destroy the drugs, which was their original intention.
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  Speaker 4: So I understand all of that very well. It's okay
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  Speaker 4: to ask questions that I don't think it's okay to
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 4: suggest that somehow Pete Hegseth or President Trump committed war
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 4: crimes here.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: Well, remember those same comments were made with Obama and
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  Speaker 17: others too. So this is politics. It's one of the
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  Speaker 17: reasons why I left Washington. It gets down into the weeds,
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 17: especially when it you can say political year. This is
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 17: really all about twenty twenty six, not about twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 17: It's about the November elections next year. It's about continuing
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  Speaker 17: to put doubt out there. And again that's sadly enough,
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 17: that's what politics is all about. They don't get anything
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  Speaker 17: done down there. I mean, they're struggling to get bills
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  Speaker 17: passed even this month that are required to continue funding
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 17: of the defense sector and other things. But this is
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  Speaker 17: the way of continuing to mix the sausage up, as
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 17: we say, and just continue to make issues for the
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  Speaker 17: next election.
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  Speaker 4: When Ronald Reagan took office in nineteen eighty one, after
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  Speaker 4: the mess that was the Carter administration and our economy
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  Speaker 4: and affordability, You remember the early eighties, I'm sure as
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  Speaker 4: well as I do. The high, the super the ultra
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 4: high interest rates, the ultra high inflation rate that Ronald
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 4: Reagan inherited in one of the reasons that he got
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  Speaker 4: elected president. We were in a recession until nineteen eighty three,
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 4: basic when we came out and Ronald Riggans tax cuts
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  Speaker 4: took a hold. How long pursuant to President Trump's policy
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  Speaker 4: and agenda, if he can turn the economy around, how
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  Speaker 4: long do you think it's going to take, and will
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  Speaker 4: it be in time for the Republicans for the midterm.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to the buzzword of affordability, well.
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  Speaker 17: Look, affordability is going to be the issue. I mean,
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  Speaker 17: prices are still going up. And as I've said in
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  Speaker 17: many of my other presentations, you know, the rich somebody
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  Speaker 17: who's wealthy is they see the price is going up,
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  Speaker 17: but it doesn't hurt them as bad. The poor get
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 17: the additional funding from the federal government. But this middle group,
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 17: this middle class of Americans who struggle every day to
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 17: make ends meet, they're the ones that are going to
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 17: be frustrated. And that's where the real key is because
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 17: that's a big group of voters who don't see prices
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  Speaker 17: coming down, they see them going up. Some of it
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 17: has to do with the tariffs, which I know people
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  Speaker 17: don't want to talk about, but the tariffs have driven
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  Speaker 17: some prices up as well, and I think that's going
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  Speaker 17: to be the biggest problem for the midterms is how
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  Speaker 17: do we justify tariffs are which are causing prices to
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  Speaker 17: go up, and still say that that we have affordability.
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  Speaker 17: So it's going to be an interesting argument over the
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  Speaker 17: next few months as we get ready for November's elections.
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  Speaker 4: Well, do you agree that one thing would help real
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  Speaker 4: quickly would be lowering the borrowing rate? Is I mean
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 4: really lowering it? And for the first time in four years,
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 4: gas around the country is averaging under three dollars a gallon,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 4: and almost everything other than maybe housing is tied to
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 4: energy cost. And when I see two seventy three at
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 4: the pump for the first time, and like I said,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 4: four years or more, I'm like, you know what that's
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 4: going to help with a lot of things being more
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 4: affordable for us in the middle class, don't you think?
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  Speaker 1: Well? I do.
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  Speaker 17: But also remember gas prices going down as a sign
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  Speaker 17: of the economy slowing down too, which is never a
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 17: good sign. Today, treasury rates are going up, also another
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 17: bad sign that the economy is slowing down. So we
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 17: got a couple signs out there that are making it
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 17: look and we're going to have massive layoffs because of AI,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 17: which is something that's not President Trump's fault. But when
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 17: you have all of these massive layoffs because of AI,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 17: the economy is going to start to come to a slowdown.
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  Speaker 17: And I think those are the issues. See that's the
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  Speaker 17: way I look at it from an economic standpoint. I
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  Speaker 17: don't see gas prices coming down as a good thing,
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 17: although I think it helps us all in our pocketbook.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 17: It will help coust him down, but also shows you
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 17: a sign of an economy slowing down, which should be
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 17: somewhat of a concern for President Trump. He has to
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 17: figure out a way how to get this economy moving.
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 17: And also with all the job losses of AI, I'm
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 17: not sure anybody has that answer just yet.
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  Speaker 4: Well, realists are often not optimist, but I am optimistic
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  Speaker 4: that you will have a very merry Christmas, Jim or
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 4: in Acy, I'm predicting it now and I believe it
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 4: fully in my heart. So merry Christmas.
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  Speaker 17: Well, I appreciate that. And the realist comment is actually
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 17: what people used to always say about me. I'm not
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  Speaker 17: an office. I'm not a pessimist.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a realist. And you have a great holiday season
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 4: with you on the Brian Thomas Morning Show. And these
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  Speaker 4: stories always just make me go wow, criminals really are stupid.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 4: Not a lot of masterminds here. A man's been arrested,
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  Speaker 4: accused of stealing an Amazon delivery van during a robbery
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 4: and del High and then leading police on a chase Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: How did they? How did the police find him? Courts
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  Speaker 4: Court documents show that Ryan Burke, age thirty five, faces
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  Speaker 4: charges of failure to comply with an order or a
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  Speaker 4: signal of a police officer receiving stolen property. Burke fled
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 4: from officers after lights and sirens were activated in a
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  Speaker 4: stolen Amazon van. He took a a robbery committed in
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  Speaker 4: del High. If you're going to commit a robbery, my
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 4: first advice is don't commit a robbery because it's a
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  Speaker 4: crime and it's wrong and you just shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're going to commit a robbery, there were
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  Speaker 4: some There are some vehicles you should leave off your list.
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  Speaker 4: One of them is an Amazon delivery van that is
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 4: completely completely connected and hooked up to the Internet through
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  Speaker 4: GPS and whatever. Another vehicle you probably shouldn't steal, and
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 4: we've seen this in town is a tractor trailer. Not
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 4: exactly easy to hide. One of those also on the
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 4: list an ambulance, a police car, a fire truck. I mean,
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna do the crime, at least do the
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  Speaker 4: time beforehand to fully think this out. Might save yourself
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  Speaker 4: a lot of trouble and jail time. Just saying I
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 4: don't know the next time that I'll get to be
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  Speaker 4: with you in this particular time and place, but I
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  Speaker 4: always enjoy it every time I get the chance to
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  Speaker 4: my thanks to Joe Strecker and to Brian Thomas for
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  Speaker 4: taking the day off. Glenn Beck coming up next on
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