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Jags Drive Time: Monday, September 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars, Did you don't Black Warners? Did Jack Guars
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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Brian sex steps there ran as Jaguars Drive
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Speaker 1: Time starts right now. Good morning, and welcome to Jack's
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Speaker 1: Drive Time. The two thousand eighteen regular season is here.
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Speaker 1: It's giant sweating and we're excited. Brian Sexton, John Osier.
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Speaker 1: Here we are regular season Week one, Baby, Let's go
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Speaker 1: Giant sweat. Yeah. For to believe, it seems like training
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Speaker 1: camp lasts forever, even though it's much shorter than it
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Speaker 1: once was. It feels like it's been a long time come.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think part of that is
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Speaker 1: because we've been waiting so long since the a f
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Speaker 1: C title loss in January to see how this team
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Speaker 1: would respond. It went by quick, though now looking back
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Speaker 1: at it, Yeah, that went by really really quick. And
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Speaker 1: so here they are ready or not. And there's so
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Speaker 1: much to talk about this morning. So many things have
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Speaker 1: happened around the National Football League in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of days that beginning at the beginning seems to make sense, right,
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Speaker 1: And we always do that with the Twitter poll on Monday.
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Speaker 1: So here's today's Twitter poll speaking beginnings, which is the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars biggest opening day win. Now, some of you may
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Speaker 1: have to stretch back and remember some of these, but
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Speaker 1: last year obviously seven and ten sacks in Houston. Back
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Speaker 1: in two thousand four, Ernest Wilford caught a touchdown on
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Speaker 1: the final play of the game from Byron Leftwich little
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Speaker 1: magic in that game to beat Mike Malarkey's Bills team
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Speaker 1: in seven. The Jaguars did. I mean, they knew they
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Speaker 1: had a good team. They were coming off an an
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Speaker 1: f C title loss to the Patriots, and Mark Brunel
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Speaker 1: was not healthy. Sir Rob Johnson started and they beat
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Speaker 1: Baltimore seven. You know what I always remember from that game.
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Speaker 1: The night before was the night Princess Diana died in London.
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Speaker 1: It was a big story. And it's the only time
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Speaker 1: that an NFL season has begun in August. Anyway, time
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Speaker 1: off track, uh, in the final game is Chicago because
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Speaker 1: that you know, that was the first year that got
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Speaker 1: all right, we're ready to go. And um Fred Taylor
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Speaker 1: was a rookie. Jimmy Smith cat a touchdown pass to
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Speaker 1: win the game at the end. So we're asking you
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Speaker 1: which is the biggest opening day win in Jaguars history.
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Speaker 1: I have a surprising answer to that, do you you
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Speaker 1: have one better than that? No, No, I would go
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Speaker 1: with the I mean, I don't want to sway the pole.
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Speaker 1: I know people will say, John, you voted for this,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote this way. Um, but I think last
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Speaker 1: year's was I mean, I you know, I covered the
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Speaker 1: nineties seven and the nineties and the eight teens, is
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Speaker 1: you know, uh none of those felt unexpected and franchise
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Speaker 1: changing last year is the way they beat Houston when nobody,
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Speaker 1: I think including us, expected the kind of season they had.
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Speaker 1: You wondered what they were and it was such a
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Speaker 1: tone setter that to me, it really, you know, sort
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Speaker 1: of rang the bell for this new generation. Uh So
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Speaker 1: I would say that really got this thing going, whereas
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Speaker 1: the the ones before. It all kind of started with
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Speaker 1: the ninety six season. You know, I left the ninety
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Speaker 1: six off and you may remember that was over the
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Speaker 1: defending AFC champion Pittsburgh Steelers because they really didn't get
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Speaker 1: it going for about two more months that we had.
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Speaker 1: It was anti climactic, you know. I mean the Steelers
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Speaker 1: were never in that ball game. They didn't score a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: It was so hot and humid that day. They were
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Speaker 1: carrying Steelers off the field that we were all black, well,
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Speaker 1: black and gold. Uh And I remember Chad Johnson, who
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Speaker 1: was All Pro linebacker in that defense, was carried off
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Speaker 1: the field midway through the third quarter. It just didn't
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Speaker 1: have the same field to it. I was looking for
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Speaker 1: some dramatics, right. Jimmy Smith at the end of the
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Speaker 1: game in ninety eight was dramatic at Soldier Field. Ernest
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Speaker 1: Wilford was dramatic. Rob Johnson surprised everybody. Um, And but
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Speaker 1: I think I think last year's well, it's the reason
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Speaker 1: it's number one. Plus let's be honest, people who vote
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Speaker 1: on Twitter polls generally skew younger, so I had to
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Speaker 1: have something more more related. I remember last year, before
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Speaker 1: opening Day us talking about and say, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how this is going to go, and
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Speaker 1: after nobody none of us expected that. Really, if there's
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Speaker 1: a theme to today's show, it's that we're starting off
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Speaker 1: with a team that we expect to contend for not
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Speaker 1: the a f C Championship, but the Super Bowl. It's
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Speaker 1: been a long time since we've been here. Last year,
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Speaker 1: I can't think of another time since ninety nine that
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Speaker 1: I have thought this team could and last year we
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Speaker 1: didn't know what it was going to be last year.
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Speaker 1: Last year was shocking. Ten sacks. Remember that was the
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Speaker 1: day that J. J. Watt ran onto the field he
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Speaker 1: was healthy with the Texas state flag right. It was
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Speaker 1: the whole Hurricane Harvey build up. Um was going to
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Speaker 1: be the man of the Year in the NFL for
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Speaker 1: his efforts that raised forty one point six million dollars
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Speaker 1: UM with a tweet. So yeah, last year was very dramatic,
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Speaker 1: and to do it the way they did it was stunning. Well,
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Speaker 1: and then that whole game, you know, you kept waiting
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Speaker 1: for what you were seeing to change because it was
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Speaker 1: so unexpected, and I kept waiting for the Texans to
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Speaker 1: make a run or do you know, And then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden at halftime, you realize, oh, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: this run isn't gonna happen. This is a good defense
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Speaker 1: that's dominating this offensive line, meaning the jag Wars dominated
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Speaker 1: the Texans offensive line. Um, you still didn't know after
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Speaker 1: that game, really, I mean I remember writing it and
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Speaker 1: then going back to the hotel because we were stuck
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Speaker 1: there for I think one more day because and still
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Speaker 1: not really knowing if what you had seen was one
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Speaker 1: of those week one things, which week one can be
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Speaker 1: a really weird week and then sort of go away.
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Speaker 1: And again, it took three or four weeks for us
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Speaker 1: to really realize I cantil Pittsburgh what this team was
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Speaker 1: going to be. Well, because they came home the next
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Speaker 1: week and laid the egg against the Titans. So a
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Speaker 1: push start it is here the regular season. Let the
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Speaker 1: hype begin. However, Tom Coughlin last week said the job
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Speaker 1: is not done. We still have a lot of work
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Speaker 1: to do. But I would say this too. Okay, the
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Speaker 1: question is what do you feel about last year and
6:00
Speaker 1: then going forward? And my answer to that is very simple. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're proud of the progress that we made, but we
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Speaker 1: have not got the job done the way we hope
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Speaker 1: to get it done. So the challenge is there and
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Speaker 1: we are trying as best we can to meet that challenge. So, UM,
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Speaker 1: I walked into go ahead, did you have something to say?
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Speaker 1: You know, Tom is really good at I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: and he's good at a lot of football things. Obviously
6:26
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the Hall of Fame. Um, And
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Speaker 1: and I never maybe I didn't appreciate it when I
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Speaker 1: was covering him for five or six years in the
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Speaker 1: nineties as a coach. Maybe he wasn't as good at
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Speaker 1: it then, but he is. He is in this role.
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Speaker 1: He is a fantastic tone setter. The grit quote when
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Speaker 1: he first got here, the uh you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: the win quote to Marco Long's question, Uh, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: win lunch at the very start. Um. I was at
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Speaker 1: the lunching where he he said that, and it was
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Speaker 1: clear or the quote that he just threw out had
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the question or very literally with
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Speaker 1: the question. He had planned it. He was ready. Um.
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Speaker 1: And he's very, very good at setting the tone for
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Speaker 1: this organization, and I appreciate it because it makes it
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Speaker 1: a very easy story to right when he says thanks.
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Speaker 1: I hosted his radio show for nine years and his
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Speaker 1: television show for seven never asked a question where his
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Speaker 1: answer was not his answer he was. He would come
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Speaker 1: out willing and waiting to make a point, and sometimes
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Speaker 1: I would just say here go because he was all
7:35
Speaker 1: wound up for it. You say, tone center. People ask
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Speaker 1: me all the time about him and his impact here
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Speaker 1: last year, and I'm careful to remind them on the
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Speaker 1: field off the field. On the field, you gotta give
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Speaker 1: the credit to dog, right what Doug did. And I
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Speaker 1: don't think Doug got enough credit last year. I think
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Speaker 1: people still looked at Tom because they were familiar with him.
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Speaker 1: But the tone center is when you would walk in.
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Speaker 1: As you walk in the JAG's front office. Right out here,
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Speaker 1: there is a glass enclosed area, right, we called it
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Speaker 1: the cry room. That's where kids, young kids, kids your age, yeah,
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Speaker 1: or on the phone selling tickets. Right. It's tough job. Well,
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Speaker 1: it was a tough job. It's easier this year. Um.
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Speaker 1: But Tom would walk by and they'd all sit up straight.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just him. That's the impact he has
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Speaker 1: on the organization as a whole. He lifted He was
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Speaker 1: the rising tide that lifted the boat of expectation the
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Speaker 1: day he walked in here. So I was gonna say
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Speaker 1: that I walked into my workout studio this morning. It's
8:25
Speaker 1: a sponsor, so I can say the name Orange Theory,
8:27
Speaker 1: and everyone was wearing jaguars. They're having they're having a
8:32
Speaker 1: Jaguar No, not orange. The lights in their orange. Everyone
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Speaker 1: looks orange. Um, they're having a Jaguar theme week. Right,
8:39
Speaker 1: it's it's kickoff week. It's been a long time since
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Speaker 1: the hype in this city has affected five am workout classes. Right,
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Speaker 1: if ever, people are ready for this team it Let's
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Speaker 1: throw it back to a Jalen Ramsey tweet last week.
8:54
Speaker 1: Batman versus Joker got them New York Giants weak, good stuff. Well,
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Speaker 1: and we don't talk. When do we talk to Jen Thursday? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: late in the week before. He's going to make a
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Speaker 1: lot of noise on this one, but everyone's anticipating it
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Speaker 1: based on his comments. You know, there was the g
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Speaker 1: Q article and the ESPN article last week. He keeps
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Speaker 1: it real, he keeps it fun without a doubt, And
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Speaker 1: the question is which one to see? Yeah, we still
9:21
Speaker 1: don't know that. Maybe someone should ask them that Thursday
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Speaker 1: in a profect smile, that would be Joker. I would
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Speaker 1: put him as the Joker, but maybe he thinks he's Batman.
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Speaker 1: He knocks the ball away, right, It could be. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure he'll have a explanation for it, even if he chooses.
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Speaker 1: While in the cover of ESPN the magazine with um
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Speaker 1: Dr Blink the Receiver, but hell Beckham Jr. On the
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Speaker 1: cover of It's Bizarre, So maybe he's the joker. They're
9:53
Speaker 1: just they're going to blow up that story so much.
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Speaker 1: We including the league's largest market in New York City.
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Speaker 1: It's the highest paid receiver in the game against the
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Speaker 1: most umb outlandish, uh proactive talker in the game to days.
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Speaker 1: I mean, is there anybody outside of Jalen Ramsey that
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Speaker 1: talks like that? No one, And beyond that, probably the
10:14
Speaker 1: best cornerback in the game that was Yeah. Well, I
10:17
Speaker 1: mean it's so there are players who are in the conversation,
10:21
Speaker 1: but uh, it wouldn't be nearly as fun or pertinent
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Speaker 1: if he wasn't as good as he was. Correct, makes
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, alright, right, big thing too. Tom
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Speaker 1: Coughlin returns going back to the place where he had
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Speaker 1: coached for a while. Competitive Tom is going to be back,
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Speaker 1: and you know he's going to want to win. However,
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Speaker 1: he probably won't say that. Let's go back to the
10:42
Speaker 1: one of the last days that Tom Cofflin was the
10:44
Speaker 1: head coach of the Giants walked past John Mara with
10:47
Speaker 1: no handshake after he was leaving. I love it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that is the intensity of Tom. He had no intention
10:55
Speaker 1: of stepping down despite the fact that they had missed
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Speaker 1: the playoffs for a couple of years in New York.
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Speaker 1: The man is always focused on winning and he wanted
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Speaker 1: to win that moment right there. Um. He he doesn't talk.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Tom spoke at the lunchon last week, but
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Speaker 1: it's not like he's gonna make himself available to the media,
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Speaker 1: so he won't. He won't acknowledge the story this week
11:15
Speaker 1: is in part Tom Coughlin's returned to the Giants. He'll
11:19
Speaker 1: be seen on the sidelines. They'll get some video of
11:21
Speaker 1: that that. He'll be seen in the press box. There
11:23
Speaker 1: will be some video of him in his booth. We're
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Speaker 1: talking about a man who led them to two super
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Speaker 1: Bowl championships. Bill Parcels led them to two super Bowl
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Speaker 1: championships and is synonymous with the New York Giants. Well
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Speaker 1: so is TC from twelve years there, um, all the
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Speaker 1: things that that I mean, gosh, two super Bowls where
11:41
Speaker 1: he was he beat the undefeated Patriots, one of the
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Speaker 1: biggest Super Bowl upsets in history. And twelve years is
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Speaker 1: a phenomenally long time to last in New York City
11:51
Speaker 1: in his day and age, so and in any day
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Speaker 1: and age really, but in a time where there's a
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Speaker 1: shorter lea Shan coaches where owners are less I mean
12:02
Speaker 1: the Giants are are are typically a a more stable
12:06
Speaker 1: organization when comes to coaches, but it's an arrow where
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Speaker 1: there's less stability to last twelve years. There is alike
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Speaker 1: lasting twenty somewhere else. You're coming in with a contender
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Speaker 1: to a team that's bouncing off of a bad season
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Speaker 1: but still has Odell Beckham, junior Seae Kwon Barkley, Eli Manning.
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Speaker 1: So the game on the field can stand on its own, obviously,
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Speaker 1: but later in the week the story will be Tom. Oh. Yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: once they get past the Jalen Ramsey, Odell Beckham stuff,
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Speaker 1: that would be the next story. It'll be a hard
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Speaker 1: story to write because nobody's really going to talk about
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Speaker 1: the coach is not the same coach who replaced Tom's
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Speaker 1: not going to talk and be vocal about it, so
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Speaker 1: it'll be much easier to talk about on shows like this.
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Speaker 1: But as as you saw that, and as you know Tom,
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Speaker 1: h he won't make it about him. But boy, while
12:59
Speaker 1: he went to see that, I say the story will
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Speaker 1: be Tom, And maybe I'm overplaying it because I know
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Speaker 1: him and I know how badly he wants to win
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Speaker 1: this game. I mean people outside of this building, people
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Speaker 1: in Jackson will go, oh yeah, Tom wants to really
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Speaker 1: win that one. You have no idea. I mean too,
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Speaker 1: you've seen the burning desire in that man's eyes on
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Speaker 1: a big week. He used to do his radio show
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. He would come in from some of these
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Speaker 1: games ready to I mean ready to go on Monday,
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Speaker 1: and by Thursday he was so wound up. I mean
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Speaker 1: he was ready to go. I can only imagine the
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Speaker 1: fire that burns in him. This week, after seeing him
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Speaker 1: at that luncheon, he was just dropping one liners that
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Speaker 1: got you so excited for the football season. He said,
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Speaker 1: individuals play football teams when championship. He talk is cheap.
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Speaker 1: He was telling you last week exactly. Talk is cheap,
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Speaker 1: and he's not awest week. He's not talking this week.
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Speaker 1: Talk is cheap. He will smile, he will have something
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Speaker 1: to say. Not to the media, but you can bet
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Speaker 1: he'll have something to say the Jaguars win on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: you can be sure of it. Yes, when he does talk,
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Speaker 1: it's a cheer. It gets you excited, all right. Big
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Speaker 1: thing three is opening days. To forget about three and thirteen.
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Speaker 1: This isn't Florida versus Charleston Southern. This is a big
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Speaker 1: team versus a big team. And Maroon said, you know how, no,
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Speaker 1: no matter how big it is, we have to build
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Speaker 1: the foundation and take it one step at a time.
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Speaker 1: When I talk to the team, we talk about the
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Speaker 1: foundation and the little goals first before we talk about
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Speaker 1: you know, went in the South, and then obviously you know,
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Speaker 1: being world champions, which we all aspire to. So I think,
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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when you look at the end first,
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Speaker 1: you kind of forget, you know, the things that you
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Speaker 1: have to do to get there. So I'm big on
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Speaker 1: building a foundation and taking those little steps first to
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Speaker 1: put us in position for the opportunities that come across
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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of hard work that has to
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Speaker 1: be done, and we still have a lot of hard
14:46
Speaker 1: work to do. You're never gonna get them there. You're
14:50
Speaker 1: never gonna let him look ahead. He will never go there. Well,
14:53
Speaker 1: and this is a week that you don't I mean,
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Speaker 1: you don't want to look ahead. Opening day stands alone.
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Speaker 1: Every rebody has the same belief level in themselves on
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Speaker 1: opening day because you're zero and zero and every other
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Speaker 1: team in the league is zero and zero, and you've
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Speaker 1: been working your way through August to get ready for
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Speaker 1: Opening Day, that the Jets fly over. Opening Day is
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Speaker 1: painted on the field. The fans are all back excited
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Speaker 1: about football. Uh. And the Giants have a very talented
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Speaker 1: collection of players on offense, and they've got some guys
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball that can change
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Speaker 1: the game too. Um. Yeah, there were three and thirteen
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Speaker 1: last year. I don't think, oh yeah, that's a W.
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Speaker 1: No Giants drapped in the top of the draft, that's
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Speaker 1: a W. Opening Day in the NFL is it's always tough,
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad you said what you said, Bryan. A
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Speaker 1: lot of it is because of the belief and these
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Speaker 1: teams come in they have game planned for this game.
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Speaker 1: They have things in the game plan that the opponent
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Speaker 1: hasn't seen. So you often if if you're watching Sports Center,
15:55
Speaker 1: Dion Show, and NFL Network on Sunday night, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: see more weird big play has happened because teams have
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Speaker 1: schemed it in in in any other week, because it's
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Speaker 1: the one week where a lot of stuff that I've
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Speaker 1: seen on the field, coaches haven't seen on film. It's
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Speaker 1: a big factor on Opening Day. That's why there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of upsets, which an opening day is really no
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Speaker 1: such term as upsets. Anything happened. But I think I
16:17
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is I've gone on covering this
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Speaker 1: thing for twenty years. As the season goes on, you
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Speaker 1: will see teams realize that it's over and it becomes
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Speaker 1: tougher and tougher for the team like that to be
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Speaker 1: a team that's contending early in the season, when teams
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Speaker 1: believe that they're still in it. There is a huge
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Speaker 1: the factor that that plays into in games that I
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Speaker 1: think as a nice people miss. But it's also why
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Speaker 1: week one there's really no such thing as an upset,
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Speaker 1: and this will be a tough game, all right, big
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Speaker 1: things wrapped up, wrapped up, That's all I got. All Right.
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Speaker 1: When we return, we'll take a deep dive into the
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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen roster and much more ahead, including ozone snapshot,
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Speaker 1: this Labor Day. Let's take a look at our Twitter poll.
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Speaker 1: Which is our biggest opening day win? Sevent Houston two thousand, seventeen.
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Speaker 1: The young folks they're voting, it makes sense. Next one
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Speaker 1: we have sevent Baltimore. Tell you what that Buffalo game
18:49
Speaker 1: people forget John, You weren't here, but Jags are down
18:52
Speaker 1: and Byron Leftwich, who was his first full season as
18:56
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback here and people at that time we're
18:58
Speaker 1: still talking about his days at Mark Shoal with a
19:00
Speaker 1: broken leg, where his teammates were helping him down the field.
19:04
Speaker 1: And I can remember doing the game on the radio
19:07
Speaker 1: and saying, is there still magic in Byron Leftwich? And
19:09
Speaker 1: then he threw that touchdown past two Ernest Wilford, who,
19:13
Speaker 1: let's be honest, was a big tight end. I mean
19:14
Speaker 1: the guy was six ft five and he just reached
19:16
Speaker 1: up and pulled the ball in. But it was it
19:18
Speaker 1: was a great moment on opening Day when it was
19:20
Speaker 1: also obviously you lived the history and I was in
19:24
Speaker 1: the appiodet the time Jack had come on and No.
19:27
Speaker 1: Three and they had had a decent finish to what
19:31
Speaker 1: had started as a bad season and oh three, and
19:34
Speaker 1: so I imagine there was a lot of importance in
19:37
Speaker 1: terms of can this guy get it going. It took
19:40
Speaker 1: another year for that team to really be good, but
19:42
Speaker 1: it contended early in though four it did. They finished
19:45
Speaker 1: nine and seven that year, and they kind of slid
19:47
Speaker 1: to the end. They weren't complete, but it was a
19:49
Speaker 1: moment where you're thinking, all right, is Byron left was
19:51
Speaker 1: going to be this team's quarterback, and you know he
19:53
Speaker 1: threw that up and Ernest went and pulled it down.
19:55
Speaker 1: So Joe has it has shown if you're in the
20:01
Speaker 1: final two minutes under center for wide, Byron fighting the noise,
20:07
Speaker 1: calmly barks out the signals, takes the snap, drops turns
20:10
Speaker 1: drows he's looking for Wilford. He made the grap he
20:13
Speaker 1: made the graph. Touchdob Jacksonville rule Touchdob Jackson, and they
20:17
Speaker 1: won the ball game. I remember getting to the bus ashell.
20:20
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but, like man, I run
20:23
Speaker 1: every day and I listened to music while I run.
20:25
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do the same thing. That's what Brian
20:27
Speaker 1: listens to. Thanks John, that's on his iPad on repeat.
20:34
Speaker 1: Thanks Joe. We're never doing that again, Manny. I mean,
20:37
Speaker 1: it's a it's an amazing thing to watch his playlist.
20:40
Speaker 1: We're never doing that again, Joe. All right, it was
20:44
Speaker 1: a great moment. It was fun day. I can remember
20:46
Speaker 1: getting on the plane and we were still surprised all
20:48
Speaker 1: the way back that they hooked up. So okay, let's
20:51
Speaker 1: move on. What do we hear him after he runs too.
20:53
Speaker 1: He's walking around the gym going, hey, do you hear
20:55
Speaker 1: this one? It's a scene, all right? Roster reduction. So Saturday,
21:02
Speaker 1: the roster was cut to fifty three players, twenty five offense,
21:05
Speaker 1: twenty five defense, kicker, punter, long snapper, ton guys signed
21:09
Speaker 1: to the practice squad. Guys, did you see any surprises
21:12
Speaker 1: when you looked at that list? Now? You know, I
21:14
Speaker 1: think we talked about it enough over the last couple
21:15
Speaker 1: of weeks that there we knew there weren't going to
21:18
Speaker 1: be surprises. Yeah, it's I always get asked that, you know.
21:23
Speaker 1: First of all, people asked me there was all the time, Um,
21:26
Speaker 1: what surprises do you expect? And I say, what if
21:28
Speaker 1: I told you wouldn't be surprised? But um, you go
21:31
Speaker 1: over the roster so much and you do get a
21:34
Speaker 1: feel going in that last game. I thought notable was
21:38
Speaker 1: Rashad Green making it. I wasn't sure about that one.
21:42
Speaker 1: Notable was it only three tight ends were kept, only
21:47
Speaker 1: four running backs, including Tommy Bohannon at fullback. I thought
21:51
Speaker 1: those were some notable things. But by the time you
21:54
Speaker 1: got to it, I guess the last four or five
21:56
Speaker 1: spots on the roster You're not shocked by because those
21:59
Speaker 1: are usually guys that you feel like, um are You
22:06
Speaker 1: can replicate what they give you with other players as well.
22:09
Speaker 1: Um they can go get Brandon wilds Now off their
22:14
Speaker 1: practice squad to fill that spot. They know the tone
22:17
Speaker 1: of the league and what guys they can get back
22:19
Speaker 1: on their practice squad. Their practice squad is like four
22:23
Speaker 1: or five guys. It gives you about fifty seven fifty
22:26
Speaker 1: eight deep. Realistically, some of those guys are ready to
22:28
Speaker 1: come up right away. So not shocking, although there were,
22:31
Speaker 1: like I say, Rashad Green making it, I thought was
22:34
Speaker 1: a cool story considering what he has been through. You know,
22:38
Speaker 1: the fact that we're talking about Rashad Green the sixth
22:40
Speaker 1: wide receiver, maybe the fifth, because I think he has
22:42
Speaker 1: a bait a greater role as a receiver than shot
22:46
Speaker 1: On Nickens does. But we're talking about the bottom of
22:48
Speaker 1: the wide receiver group. I was surprised, slightly, to be
22:50
Speaker 1: honest with you, that William Pales was cut instead of
22:53
Speaker 1: Josh Walker. I thought Pales had played left and right
22:56
Speaker 1: tackle and played left guard in the final. They were
22:58
Speaker 1: seeing how versatile he was. Now Walker must have played
23:01
Speaker 1: very very well. Uh, in his time. I just don't
23:04
Speaker 1: remember talking anybody about Josh Walker, but he was a
23:06
Speaker 1: guy late last season they gave him some minutes. Uh.
23:09
Speaker 1: When we're talking about those guys, the Josh Walkers, the
23:12
Speaker 1: Tray Herndon, the undrafted rookie from Vanderbilt, the fifth cornerback right,
23:18
Speaker 1: Jared Wilson right, the fifth safety, I mean tells you
23:21
Speaker 1: what this team is well. And there are so many
23:23
Speaker 1: spots when you're analyzing it, there are so many spots
23:27
Speaker 1: that you know what they are that you have time
23:30
Speaker 1: to sort of look and say, okay, here are the
23:32
Speaker 1: key groups. If if you were talking to people are
23:35
Speaker 1: paying attention, you knew that Herndon was after about a
23:39
Speaker 1: week of training camp. He was no longer an upset
23:43
Speaker 1: to make the team. He was a guy that you
23:45
Speaker 1: were here and unless we're seeing something that is wrong,
23:50
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it. You knew he was a little
23:52
Speaker 1: head of Meeks Jacobs. You know, I was a little
23:55
Speaker 1: surprised that the two linebackers Brown and uh Pain were
24:04
Speaker 1: I was surprised both of them made it. I'm so
24:06
Speaker 1: surprised I haven't gone out and gotten somebody for that,
24:09
Speaker 1: because I know that that the depth, there is a
24:11
Speaker 1: little bit of a concern. But again the bottom of
24:15
Speaker 1: the claim order too. I mean, there may have been
24:17
Speaker 1: guys they wanted, but twenty what seven other teams could
24:22
Speaker 1: go in and grab him. And again we're also talking
24:24
Speaker 1: about the bottom ten guys in the roster where you
24:27
Speaker 1: knew you feel so good about the top what forty
24:32
Speaker 1: three that these are the storylines you get on an
24:34
Speaker 1: every day weekend. With Thursday after the game, when you
24:38
Speaker 1: went into the locker room to smile on Jadon Mickens face,
24:42
Speaker 1: who did not play that day, was huge. Knowing that
24:45
Speaker 1: he made the team. It was pretty cool, I thought,
24:46
Speaker 1: walking in and just seeing how confident and happy he was.
24:49
Speaker 1: It would have been a bigger story had Mark easily
24:51
Speaker 1: been healthy right to see exactly which way it went.
24:54
Speaker 1: But you can't deny that Mickens has something when he's
24:57
Speaker 1: got the ball in his hands coming out of the
24:59
Speaker 1: end zone owned or whether he's got at the midfield.
25:01
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has little juice. I wasn't surprised
25:04
Speaker 1: you made the team. I was surprised that he made it.
25:08
Speaker 1: You know, so far under the wire if you will,
25:11
Speaker 1: that he was one of the guys who did not Um.
25:14
Speaker 1: You know he uh you mentioned earlier, Brian. I think
25:21
Speaker 1: over the long term, I expect Rashid Green to not
25:24
Speaker 1: be active early UM, and I expect Mickens to be
25:27
Speaker 1: active and be that fifth receiver and not using the
25:29
Speaker 1: fifth receiver that much. Were there an injury in the
25:32
Speaker 1: top four, I think Rashy Green would come in and
25:35
Speaker 1: be the receiver. That's what he over Jaydon Mickens. But
25:38
Speaker 1: Mickens has that thing where I kept saying it all offseason.
25:42
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be tough for them to
25:44
Speaker 1: cut him because they had seen him do it. And
25:47
Speaker 1: he cuts the ball upfield very very quickly on returns.
25:50
Speaker 1: He has a little bit of an edge over on
25:53
Speaker 1: that front, over Westbrook and over Green. So uh, but
25:58
Speaker 1: I have to add this, He's got a little knack
25:59
Speaker 1: for no he does um. I said. We on Wednesday
26:03
Speaker 1: night we got to Tampa. I think we got to
26:04
Speaker 1: the hotel about a thirty and we immediately went into
26:07
Speaker 1: a television meeting where we sit with the coach and
26:10
Speaker 1: a couple of key players, and so, sitting with Doug,
26:13
Speaker 1: I said, what does Rashad Green have to do to
26:14
Speaker 1: make the team? And he I'm interpreting here because he
26:17
Speaker 1: didn't say this, but he said, what makes you think
26:19
Speaker 1: he hasn't made the team? Right? I mean he's basically
26:22
Speaker 1: telling us that he's made the team. So all I
26:24
Speaker 1: kept hearing and this speaks to the depth of the
26:27
Speaker 1: roster throughout the course of the last couple of weeks
26:29
Speaker 1: of the preseason was exactly what Green had already done.
26:33
Speaker 1: What he had shown them in the slot, only true
26:36
Speaker 1: slot receiver on this roster, the only guy whose job
26:39
Speaker 1: is to line up in the slot. Everyone else plays elsewhere. Uh.
26:42
Speaker 1: And the fifty seven yard returned that set up the
26:44
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown was what they expected out of him. Uh.
26:47
Speaker 1: He impressed them too, and he he gives you I'm sorry, Brian,
26:50
Speaker 1: he gives you reliability out of all the out of
26:56
Speaker 1: all the backups on the team who probably won't player
26:59
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't expect to be active because
27:01
Speaker 1: the numbers. But how good do you feel if you're
27:05
Speaker 1: keenan knowing that? Okay, if I lose a guy, which
27:09
Speaker 1: happens in the NFL, I've got this guy who can
27:13
Speaker 1: come in and I don't teach him the offense. I
27:16
Speaker 1: know where he's going to be he knows it. It's
27:18
Speaker 1: not a quick Hey, how are you going to get
27:20
Speaker 1: you up to speed? He already knows it, and he
27:22
Speaker 1: can go return kicks. He's got the you know, experience,
27:26
Speaker 1: can do the role, and he's got the versatility. He's
27:28
Speaker 1: got everything you want from a guy's at the bottom
27:30
Speaker 1: of the oster. And that fifth wide receiver spot probably
27:32
Speaker 1: works out best for him right now because he's a
27:34
Speaker 1: guy who hasn't been able to stay healthy. So this
27:36
Speaker 1: will give him a chance to just keep working and
27:37
Speaker 1: working and working. When he is called upon, perhaps come
27:39
Speaker 1: in and make a couple of plays. All right, ready
27:42
Speaker 1: to move on, Let's do it. What's next? Stop shot?
27:45
Speaker 1: Should we take a break first, or should we just die?
27:47
Speaker 1: We should take the We should take the break and
27:49
Speaker 1: come back with the ozone snapshot. Give the old chance
27:51
Speaker 1: to kind of build up, you know, the ozone snapshot.
27:54
Speaker 1: John carries around on his phone all day and just
27:56
Speaker 1: reads it. It's a shining moment. It's what he's known for.
27:59
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to Brian Sexon calls during the break
28:01
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28:04
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29:27
Speaker 1: There's the field where the Leonard Skinners show was last night.
29:29
Speaker 1: I heard it was an awesome show late night, a
29:32
Speaker 1: lot of fun, a lot of people with good stuff.
29:35
Speaker 1: I think I have a bunch of friends on Facebook
29:38
Speaker 1: and I think all of them were there last night.
29:40
Speaker 1: It looked past I mean everybody was live from the show.
29:43
Speaker 1: It did look bad. It's great for Jacksonville, a great
29:46
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville that they fill up the stadium on a
29:49
Speaker 1: Sunday night, you know, Labor Day weekend when lots of
29:53
Speaker 1: people normally think about getting out of town or being
29:55
Speaker 1: at the beach. The fact that it was Leonard Skinner
29:57
Speaker 1: that highlighted it, um really cool way to start off
30:01
Speaker 1: and have people jacked up about and good for that band,
30:04
Speaker 1: and good for those guys, and uh, very cool that
30:08
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of their career is obviously
30:11
Speaker 1: finding synchronicity with the team the town. I think it's
30:14
Speaker 1: been a cool six months leading up to that. Yeah,
30:16
Speaker 1: and talking to some of the people in the building
30:17
Speaker 1: this morning who were here last night, they were raving
30:19
Speaker 1: about it. It's a great show and that Skinner put
30:22
Speaker 1: on an amazing performance. So as expel speaking of amazing performances,
30:28
Speaker 1: here we go. Good shoot, let's do it. Bran from
30:33
Speaker 1: Jacksonville ozone snapshot. What does Blake Bortles need to do
30:37
Speaker 1: statistically to make his team go to the Super Bowl?
30:40
Speaker 1: You know, I actually I actually put some thought into
30:42
Speaker 1: this question, which it's tough. I don't know that there's
30:48
Speaker 1: an answer to the statistical thing with Blake Bortles. You know,
30:52
Speaker 1: I guess he needs to have you know, five or
30:57
Speaker 1: six more touchdowns and he does interest options. I guess
31:00
Speaker 1: he needs to have his interceptions at a certain level.
31:05
Speaker 1: But mostly to me, he needs to do what he
31:08
Speaker 1: did last year. He needs to continue to grow in
31:14
Speaker 1: terms of getting this team, in this offense into the
31:17
Speaker 1: right situations. And I'm talking like I'm about to say
31:21
Speaker 1: game manager, but he's more than that. Um his strengths,
31:26
Speaker 1: which are getting away from rush, creating plays outside the pocket,
31:30
Speaker 1: doing things above the XS, and ose he needs to
31:33
Speaker 1: continue that. I guess I don't care about the stats
31:36
Speaker 1: as long as the one stat meaning interceptions, isn't outrageously high.
31:40
Speaker 1: I'll go with he needs to be able to run
31:42
Speaker 1: for eighty eight yards on a day that he can
31:44
Speaker 1: only pass for seven. See to me that that day
31:47
Speaker 1: against the Bills here last year just throw the stats
31:49
Speaker 1: out the window with the guy. Yes, you can say
31:52
Speaker 1: he needs to have thirty touchdowns this year and ten interceptions,
31:55
Speaker 1: that three to one ratio that year about all the
31:57
Speaker 1: time whatever. I mean. We all know that that's the
31:59
Speaker 1: story for free quarterback in professional football. But for Boardles,
32:02
Speaker 1: who's a get the job done kind of guy, the
32:05
Speaker 1: Bills game to me personified that seven rushing yard apartment
32:09
Speaker 1: eighty eight rushing yards on a day to day have
32:11
Speaker 1: eighty seven passing yards. That's what he needs to be
32:13
Speaker 1: able to do. And you're exactly right. And the Bills game,
32:17
Speaker 1: to me is the great irony of Boardles, meaning it
32:21
Speaker 1: was a game where first of all, neither quarterback could
32:24
Speaker 1: throw in the conduct and he got raked over the
32:29
Speaker 1: coals for it. Um. It's pointed to by analysts as
32:34
Speaker 1: an example of what's wrong with Blake, and the reality
32:38
Speaker 1: is inside the building, it's what they love about the kid.
32:41
Speaker 1: The ability as you say, Okay, this isn't working for
32:44
Speaker 1: whatever reason, uh, and yet you find a way to
32:50
Speaker 1: win above that. And that's what he gives them that
32:54
Speaker 1: people don't give him credit. Well, and so it reminds
32:57
Speaker 1: you that a guy riding a national column from Boss
33:00
Speaker 1: or Dallas or wherever he may be, Los Angeles or
33:02
Speaker 1: she uh doesn't understand the dynamic of the kid. And
33:07
Speaker 1: they're starting to now because those guys are rolling, those
33:10
Speaker 1: reporters are rolling through Jacksonville more often because this team
33:14
Speaker 1: bears mentioned to them, so they've got to know more
33:16
Speaker 1: about it. Um. The more they find out about the kid,
33:19
Speaker 1: the more they realize just what his teammates and the
33:21
Speaker 1: coaching staff thinks of him. And it doesn't but it
33:25
Speaker 1: makes him a lot better than people give him credit for.
33:27
Speaker 1: Can you win with him? Sure? Statistically, I think that's
33:30
Speaker 1: the keyword with this ozone question. Statistically he doesn't prove it,
33:34
Speaker 1: and a lot of national people can't write statistically and
33:36
Speaker 1: say that, but that Buffalo bills him is a great
33:38
Speaker 1: example of statistics. Didn't prove that he won that game
33:40
Speaker 1: well last year ten and six, two and one in
33:43
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So this year he's got another chance to
33:47
Speaker 1: prove it, and the staff that matters the most use
33:49
Speaker 1: the record the wins. Alright. Mike from Atlanta, I think
33:53
Speaker 1: it says a lot about the roster that there are
33:54
Speaker 1: no surprise with the cutdown of fifty three. They built
33:57
Speaker 1: a very good roster using a mixture of great draft
34:00
Speaker 1: often an even better free agency signings. This has to
34:03
Speaker 1: be some of the best roster management this century. Great
34:06
Speaker 1: work by Codwell Coughlin and the data analytics team. Shout
34:10
Speaker 1: out to them. Yeah, it's uh, you're gonna steal my
34:13
Speaker 1: thunder on this one, are you well? I'm always a
34:16
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable with Okay, this is the best and this
34:20
Speaker 1: is fantastic. They've done a great job. Obviously they have to,
34:24
Speaker 1: you know, there is a second step to all this
34:26
Speaker 1: coming up after this season, in terms of managing what
34:30
Speaker 1: they have built. I even had to manage anything yet,
34:33
Speaker 1: but the cap was clear now the key though, Brian
34:36
Speaker 1: and we talked about it. They've set it up so
34:39
Speaker 1: that it is manageable. They've set it up so and
34:43
Speaker 1: from the start they did not expect all of these
34:46
Speaker 1: free agents they've signed over the last two or three
34:48
Speaker 1: years to be here in nineteen. They're going to get
34:52
Speaker 1: criticized next off season by people who don't understand what
34:55
Speaker 1: they did, for lack of foresight, for mismanaging the cap.
35:01
Speaker 1: They've managed exactly how they wanted to. They managed it
35:04
Speaker 1: so that some of these guys have to be let
35:06
Speaker 1: go as long as you've drafted well behind them. But
35:10
Speaker 1: how they are judged in terms of, you know, if
35:13
Speaker 1: you're looking back at it ten years from now, well
35:17
Speaker 1: largely depend a if they win it, because then it
35:19
Speaker 1: won't matter what they do in the future, but be
35:22
Speaker 1: how they draft behind it. If they draft well and
35:26
Speaker 1: there and they let a safety go, and they let
35:29
Speaker 1: a cornerback go or not cornerback but defensive lineman go,
35:32
Speaker 1: and they have players coming up behind them, then they
35:35
Speaker 1: will be lauded as being brilliant. If they draft poorly,
35:39
Speaker 1: they're going to be looked at, Oh, they didn't manage
35:42
Speaker 1: the cap. They didn't know what they were doing. It's
35:44
Speaker 1: still a percentage game. It's like, um, a jigsaw puzzle,
35:47
Speaker 1: you know the puzzles the kids get the big pieces.
35:49
Speaker 1: There's forty eight of them. It was easy. Now I'm
35:53
Speaker 1: not saying it was easy in terms of identifying the talent,
35:56
Speaker 1: but kids, they're just still the ones I do. But
36:00
Speaker 1: with the cap that was as wide open as this
36:02
Speaker 1: one was, they could go out and take some swings.
36:04
Speaker 1: They drafted well, it all fit together. But the management sides,
36:07
Speaker 1: like that two thousand piece pus you open up and
36:09
Speaker 1: you look at it and go, wow, Okay, this is
36:11
Speaker 1: gonna take some work. That's what's coming. They have to
36:13
Speaker 1: manage it from this point forward. This year they have
36:16
Speaker 1: sixty point seven million dollars just in their defensive line,
36:20
Speaker 1: far and away the most in the league. Well, of
36:21
Speaker 1: course you've got Calais Campbell and Millie Jackson and Darcel
36:24
Speaker 1: Darius all making eleven million or more and Jackson and
36:28
Speaker 1: Campbell million or more. Okay, well, so next year that
36:32
Speaker 1: number goes up, so you've got to start figuring things out.
36:36
Speaker 1: Next Year's where the management side of it comes in.
36:38
Speaker 1: But when you look at what they've done, Tom Doug
36:41
Speaker 1: Dave Johnny I Zick, former general manager of the Jets
36:44
Speaker 1: who's been around with the Seahawks and the Bucks, working
36:47
Speaker 1: with Tim Walsh on the salary cap side, the Scouts
36:50
Speaker 1: have done a great job in bringing talent in here.
36:52
Speaker 1: They got to keep it up as and as we
36:54
Speaker 1: talked about, you've got to find some undrafted rookies out there,
36:57
Speaker 1: because you only have seven draft picks. You've got to
36:59
Speaker 1: find some of these guys to fill in holes and develop.
37:01
Speaker 1: And then of course there's always this look Tavin Bryant
37:04
Speaker 1: has to be sitting on the board number twenty nine.
37:06
Speaker 1: A guy that many people think is, you know, a
37:08
Speaker 1: top fifteen, top twenty pick has got to be sitting
37:11
Speaker 1: there at twenty nine where you pick because it makes
37:13
Speaker 1: it all work. What you hope is a guy in
37:17
Speaker 1: two years and I don't know that he'll fit this
37:19
Speaker 1: role as he develops, but a Trey Herndon, who you
37:23
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie becomes third year perhaps becomes Hayden when Hayden
37:30
Speaker 1: leaves in two years. So you hope that you're undrafted
37:32
Speaker 1: rookies be that, and then you get a couple of
37:35
Speaker 1: years out of them and they move on um and again,
37:38
Speaker 1: as you say, some of its luck. All right, last one,
37:41
Speaker 1: Padre Beach, let's go to what are your thoughts on
37:44
Speaker 1: Eli's performance? With our hungry defense swarming all around him,
37:48
Speaker 1: do you think our defense will hold them to scoring
37:50
Speaker 1: only field goals? No? And and that's not and so
37:55
Speaker 1: we need to remember that this is a had a
37:59
Speaker 1: chance to be a great defense. It's also the National
38:02
Speaker 1: Football League. So there might be some games where they win.
38:07
Speaker 1: They might win, It doesn't matter. As long as you win,
38:12
Speaker 1: you're gonna give up plays You're not gonna go the
38:14
Speaker 1: whole season just allowing field goals. And there's a little
38:18
Speaker 1: bit of a tone to some of the questions I'm
38:19
Speaker 1: getting this week about well, Eli Manning should be a
38:24
Speaker 1: guy that we can pressure into mistakes. And I get it.
38:27
Speaker 1: You can pressure any quarterback into mistakes, and that's the
38:30
Speaker 1: key to this team, their ability to do that. But
38:33
Speaker 1: don't think that Eli Manning isn't capable of beating you.
38:37
Speaker 1: And he rings and he's got Barkley. This is a
38:41
Speaker 1: team that's good. This is a team to win eleven
38:43
Speaker 1: and five two years ago. Has the talent to do this. Um,
38:48
Speaker 1: the past rush this week needs to get home. If
38:52
Speaker 1: it does, they'll win the game. If if it struggles
38:54
Speaker 1: at all, then the Giants are gonna score nothing. To
38:57
Speaker 1: add their Blackham Jr. Speech. I mean, and they will
39:01
Speaker 1: try to get him away from Jaalen as much as
39:02
Speaker 1: the him. They will find ways to get him matched up. Um,
39:06
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that Jaalen is not a great player
39:09
Speaker 1: or that this defense is great. But he's a twenty
39:11
Speaker 1: million dollar receiver for a reason. Money pays, all right,
39:15
Speaker 1: do we want to go to NFL headlines? We have
39:17
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Let's go all right. Carson Wentz
39:21
Speaker 1: NFL Network this morning said Nick Foles is going to
39:25
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback. Not surprised, and no one is
39:27
Speaker 1: surprised by that. But you gotta think, when we were
39:29
Speaker 1: talking about this three weeks ago, did we really think
39:31
Speaker 1: Nick Foles was going to be at the starting quarterback? Well?
39:32
Speaker 1: I did, and I've been saying, I'm I'm not sure
39:35
Speaker 1: when Wentz will be ready to go. I mean, they
39:36
Speaker 1: obviously played Thursday night. He's not even nine months removed.
39:40
Speaker 1: He's a franchise quarterback. There's no reason to russian. You
39:43
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl with fools. You've got a defense
39:45
Speaker 1: that returns. It's one of the best in the league.
39:47
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him to October.
39:49
Speaker 1: And I believe his was more than just an a C.
39:52
Speaker 1: It was multiple. So I remember Tony Boselli coming back
39:56
Speaker 1: in ninety or in two thousand, was it he hurt
40:01
Speaker 1: himself at the end of the two nine nine season,
40:03
Speaker 1: but one, And it was a remarkable thing because Tony
40:06
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl and by the second half the
40:07
Speaker 1: season was playing back at his level. It was in
40:10
Speaker 1: But there's couple things remember about the A c L.
40:13
Speaker 1: First of all, not all rehabs on that are the same.
40:18
Speaker 1: Second of all, this is absolutely to franchise that Philadelphia
40:23
Speaker 1: is talking about. It's the reason they kept Nick Foles.
40:25
Speaker 1: When they kept Nick Foles, you figured there was a
40:28
Speaker 1: chance that he was going to start, or else you
40:30
Speaker 1: wouldn't have if there was complete confidence he was gonna
40:32
Speaker 1: be coming back, meaning Wentz, you wouldn't have kept him.
40:34
Speaker 1: So uh, this is one that you would think they
40:37
Speaker 1: are making a fifteen year decision rather than a fifteen
40:40
Speaker 1: day decision. And I'm a body language guy, and Doug
40:43
Speaker 1: Peterson's body language says, stop asking me because I can't
40:47
Speaker 1: answer it. And I'm not going to answer because I
40:48
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I think it's going to stretch
40:51
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Him him and saving Like
40:53
Speaker 1: this quarterback question is ah yeah, good stuff like that
40:56
Speaker 1: college football referencessions I did. I asked Brian about his
40:59
Speaker 1: opinion of that really got me bothered? Did it go?
41:03
Speaker 1: Let's move on next one? Next one. Khalil Mack big money,
41:08
Speaker 1: NFL's highest paid at non quarterback. Yeah, the money is insane.
41:12
Speaker 1: Here's the issue. The Raiders have traded away their best player.
41:17
Speaker 1: What message does that send to their team? And what
41:20
Speaker 1: message does it send to their fans who they're barely
41:22
Speaker 1: hanging on too before they moved to Vegas. What a
41:25
Speaker 1: colossal mess up this is? Yeah, it's uh, not just
41:30
Speaker 1: their best player, but a their best player at a
41:35
Speaker 1: premium position, meaning if this was your center, if this
41:39
Speaker 1: was even a corner, you know, a premier pass rusher,
41:44
Speaker 1: who premier maybe the best pass is almost There are
41:50
Speaker 1: players who were considered premier, and then there are players
41:53
Speaker 1: are premier without weakness. It's got even have any weaknesses
41:56
Speaker 1: and you've traded them away. Um, I don't know that
42:02
Speaker 1: there's a price that makes that worthwhile and certainly what
42:05
Speaker 1: they got. Yeah, I'm just sick with the fans there.
42:09
Speaker 1: I would just if I was a raidersman, I would
42:11
Speaker 1: just be so upset. Well, it's a black hole down
42:14
Speaker 1: there this morning, for sure. It's a gaping, sucking black
42:18
Speaker 1: hole because the Raiders, any hope that they had this
42:21
Speaker 1: year would seem to be out the window. Yeah. It
42:24
Speaker 1: it puts the pressure squarely on Grooden because you know,
42:28
Speaker 1: I know he's got a ten year deal, but this
42:30
Speaker 1: is one where you know it's going to be analyzed
42:33
Speaker 1: very fast, very soon, and maybe a different league than
42:37
Speaker 1: the one he left. When you have Derek Carr tweeting,
42:39
Speaker 1: no way, their locker room is gonna be like today
42:42
Speaker 1: when they get the first questions, that ain't good, That
42:45
Speaker 1: isn't good, when they're out outlashing on social media. All right.
42:49
Speaker 1: Third one, they left the gate open. Thirty eight year
42:54
Speaker 1: old resigns for sixte season. Antonio Gates and I should
42:59
Speaker 1: say return. I put the wrong word in there, resigns
43:02
Speaker 1: and I produce you to put a hashtag in okay, uh,
43:05
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates is back? Yeah? What is the eight time
43:08
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl dash? Um? That's all have? Antonio Gates coming back? Yeah,
43:21
Speaker 1: and out of the all time great tight ends good
43:23
Speaker 1: in the sense that if he wants to play, yeah,
43:28
Speaker 1: you would like to see him finish his career there
43:30
Speaker 1: and play it out and so good for him. And
43:33
Speaker 1: the charges are routine. They think they've got a shot.
43:35
Speaker 1: They think they are one of the better teams in
43:36
Speaker 1: the a f C if they can stay healthy. Now
43:38
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to stay healthy. They've lost two
43:39
Speaker 1: defensive bags and they're tied end Hunter Henry, which left
43:42
Speaker 1: the gate open for Antonio Gates to resign, left the
43:45
Speaker 1: gate open that hashtag dash whatever hip hip hip hip,
43:54
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Speaker 1: All right, starting off with our guy Khalis Camp. We
45:35
Speaker 1: just talked about Khalil Mack in the big contract he
45:37
Speaker 1: just got. He tweeted out. Happy to see all this
45:40
Speaker 1: money being given out. Over the last couple of days,
45:42
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald have changed the game to
45:46
Speaker 1: Young King's the opportunity to change the world. Who recognition
45:49
Speaker 1: there lots of money, lots of money, lots of moneys,
45:55
Speaker 1: has a little bit of that, Oh yeah, he's not struggling.
45:59
Speaker 1: You're You're never going to find a player ever who
46:03
Speaker 1: regrets other players getting paid sets the market. Aaron Donald
46:07
Speaker 1: did it on what Saturday and on Sunday. You know,
46:11
Speaker 1: Clayses only regret is that he's thirty one and not
46:16
Speaker 1: because he's getting bigger and bigger. And you don't think
46:19
Speaker 1: guys like Boselli and Taylor and Brunell don't regret they
46:22
Speaker 1: were you know they played in this year, right, they
46:24
Speaker 1: all do. They all look at the money and they say, wow,
46:26
Speaker 1: what would I be worth it? At the same time,
46:28
Speaker 1: the guys who played ten years before the look exactly.
46:30
Speaker 1: It's a never ending circle, all right. Adam Schefter, we
46:34
Speaker 1: always talk about the success stories with people making the team.
46:37
Speaker 1: He put it into perspective. This weekend. Over the next
46:40
Speaker 1: two days, one thousand four NFL players will be fired
46:43
Speaker 1: from their jobs. Someone will turn to the practice squad,
46:46
Speaker 1: but many will have no choice but to move on.
46:48
Speaker 1: There is no busy transactional time in the NFL. Then
46:51
Speaker 1: this weekend for many it is a brutal weekend. They
46:53
Speaker 1: won't forget perspective there. And that's why when we're going
47:00
Speaker 1: into preseason week four, uh, as much as we always
47:04
Speaker 1: talk about, boy, I can't wait for this to get
47:06
Speaker 1: over with preseason. You know that's fun to talk about,
47:09
Speaker 1: but you know, you always try to treat that day
47:13
Speaker 1: with the respect that it deserves because there are usually
47:15
Speaker 1: twenty guys, twenty five guys who are playing the game
47:18
Speaker 1: for the last time. And I get that everybody goes
47:20
Speaker 1: through it. If you've played football, you have to have
47:22
Speaker 1: your last game. But it's still a tough, tough weekend
47:25
Speaker 1: for these guys. You don't get paid until you're on
47:27
Speaker 1: the opening day roster, and that's what they were going for. Yeah,
47:31
Speaker 1: the football dream is there. They want the money. Now
47:34
Speaker 1: they have to write. Now, they have to hook on
47:36
Speaker 1: maybe be a practice squad player somewhere, which isn't bad.
47:38
Speaker 1: It's about eight thousand dollars a week for the weeks,
47:40
Speaker 1: but of course it's a week to week business in
47:42
Speaker 1: the practice squad. From many of them, it's doing this.
47:45
Speaker 1: It's getting a job and moving on with life and
47:47
Speaker 1: you know, learning to save and budget and all that stuff.
47:50
Speaker 1: And what they dream of is the big hit. I mean,
47:52
Speaker 1: let's never lose sight of the fact it's professional football. Yeah,
47:55
Speaker 1: the dream sells, but it's the money that pays, right,
47:57
Speaker 1: And just the change routine. I remember Done Brown saying
48:00
Speaker 1: it last week that you know, you come in every
48:01
Speaker 1: day and you get breakfast, lunch and dinner here, you
48:03
Speaker 1: get massages, you work out in this awesome weight room,
48:06
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden reality Now what was
48:09
Speaker 1: the movie reality bites? Yes, for some of those guys
48:13
Speaker 1: that does today. It does sad stuff, all right. Last
48:15
Speaker 1: one Leonard for Nett. So Bleacher Report says, remember the
48:18
Speaker 1: name A J. Dillon, who's a Boston college running back
48:21
Speaker 1: making news in the A C. C. Could be the
48:23
Speaker 1: next Leonard for Net for Net quote sets and says,
48:26
Speaker 1: I love the comparison, but you think a player works
48:28
Speaker 1: hard his whole life to be the next Leonard for Nett.
48:30
Speaker 1: Let the man create his own legacy and build his
48:33
Speaker 1: whole own name. I thought that was pretty cool. You
48:35
Speaker 1: always hear that, oh he's the next Fred Taylor, He's
48:38
Speaker 1: the next Leonard for Net. But for not put that
48:39
Speaker 1: up in perspective, you know, let this guy build his
48:41
Speaker 1: own legacy. It's interesting. I don't know that I've and
48:44
Speaker 1: I followed the Leonard for Nett story from the time
48:46
Speaker 1: that he was high school and I was talking about
48:48
Speaker 1: how big he was, powerful and the number one recruit.
48:51
Speaker 1: I don't ever remember him being compared to anyone. Leonard
48:54
Speaker 1: for Nett wasn't he was Leonard for Net. He's a
48:57
Speaker 1: different guy, and uh you. I thought that was a
49:01
Speaker 1: cool tweet, and it shows how I think aware he
49:05
Speaker 1: is and aware these guys are of how hard it
49:08
Speaker 1: is to get to where they are and how much
49:13
Speaker 1: they do work at creating their own legacy in their
49:17
Speaker 1: own name. I think a lot of guys feel that way.
49:20
Speaker 1: It was kind of cool to see him put that
49:22
Speaker 1: into an easily understandable way of thinking about it, right,
49:24
Speaker 1: because he could easily go the other way around and say, yeah,
49:27
Speaker 1: you know, get on my side. You know in the
49:28
Speaker 1: next letter for day, awesome, let's do it. That wasn't
49:31
Speaker 1: the case, and that's all I got. Three you didn't
49:36
Speaker 1: have the one with the rights. Breaking news, we have
49:40
Speaker 1: learned that Jalen Ramsey is indeed Batman thanks to this
49:45
Speaker 1: from our social media manager, Darnell Brady. It's pretty cool.
49:48
Speaker 1: That's good stuff, breaking news. The question has been solved.
49:52
Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. And that's really when you
49:54
Speaker 1: have a back. I've already a defensive back like Jalen
49:58
Speaker 1: Ramsey and have great receivers in this league. The Odell
50:02
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Is the Julio Jones. It's fun to watch
50:05
Speaker 1: those matchups. Can't wait for Sunday. I know the patch
50:08
Speaker 1: on his uh jersey doesn't stand for a t M,
50:11
Speaker 1: but it could. It would be good. Now, that's pretty cool.
50:18
Speaker 1: Now that's the end of top Sweets. Thank you for that.
50:20
Speaker 1: And that then is the end of the show. When
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Speaker 1: will endeavor to put a show together for you tomorrow?
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Speaker 1: Brian Ashlyn John Happy Labor Day, everybody,