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S4 E29: Here We Go Again · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 2: You can see you breath out in the lake Effect,
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  Speaker 2: Breacon tables like guitar woudre here?
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  Speaker 1: Wherese would you have to be?
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  Speaker 2: And to Ron Elvis in the lay panchow the members
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  Speaker 2: that you need to know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you out here? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Your family?
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  Speaker 1: Where's would you happy? Where else would you have be?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Crippen.
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  Speaker 2: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
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  Speaker 2: you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills and
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  Speaker 2: NFL content again today and as always, these are my
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  Speaker 2: bills thoughts set out loud, It survive, so ridiculous?
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  Speaker 1: Two six the show Where's would you like to be?
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 2: tonight's episode. As always, it's funny because you know, seven
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  Speaker 2: game win streak, the bills are riding, and everything is
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  Speaker 2: rosy and there's no problems, there's no issues, there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: really to complain about, and we kind of highlighted that
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  Speaker 2: last week how there's really not much I could say
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  Speaker 2: in respects to the head coach or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: And then last week's game happens against the Rams in
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  Speaker 2: La So if I stayed him such a beautiful edifice,
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  Speaker 2: and I find myself back in the same place that
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  Speaker 2: I've been unfortunately too many times. Joining me tonight as
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  Speaker 2: always my co host Adam dump Truck Repsick writing Shotgun
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  Speaker 2: k how at the Crew DT. I I've got some
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  Speaker 2: things to get off my chest. You know, it's my
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  Speaker 2: number one favorite topic since Nickel City Crew excuse me
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  Speaker 2: has been has been born. I'll at the crew, man,
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  Speaker 2: I got some things to say, man.
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  Speaker 1: Rob, you see the black you see the black hat.
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  Speaker 1: You know some ship you're right.
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  Speaker 3: About ball Man. I don't know about this tone, Rob.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see, like you know, ten and three, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of a lot of things still still to come this season.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, let's let's get into it. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: about that tone, Rob, I don't know about that tone.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a week. It's been a week we're going
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  Speaker 3: into a big game. Let's let's let's go oh.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into the big game, obviously, the Bills
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  Speaker 2: play against uh the what is eleven or twelve and
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  Speaker 2: one Detroit Lions on Sunday at four thirty four to
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  Speaker 2: twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever case may be.
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  Speaker 2: Before we can move forward, DT, let's take a step
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  Speaker 2: and look backwards and check out the game that we
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  Speaker 2: just came off, and you know, it's a loss to
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  Speaker 2: the La Rams. I think it's the highest I think, DT,
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  Speaker 2: they said the highest scoring game of the season. Really
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  Speaker 2: one of those instant classics that you would put on
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  Speaker 2: ESPN Classic back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen obviously.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about at nauseum a couple weeks ago, and
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  Speaker 2: he was electric and wonderful and did everything that he
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  Speaker 2: needed to do to try to get his team to win.
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  Speaker 2: A common thread sometimes in these situations, DT is his
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  Speaker 2: head coach who sometimes lets him down. And I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to get your opinions on it, because there are not one,
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  Speaker 2: but a bunch of different decisions.
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  Speaker 1: That I gotta look at critically. DT.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know that you're not the fondest of
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  Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, but you're definitely more fond of him than
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  Speaker 2: I am in respects to the criticism that comes his way.
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  Speaker 1: DT. I heard WG all week long.
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  Speaker 2: I heard you know, different national pundits all week long,
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  Speaker 2: and everybody's kind of been batting this thing around like
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  Speaker 2: a cat with a ball of yarn.
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  Speaker 1: DT, We've got different situations throughout this game.
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  Speaker 2: As the game started to come to a close where
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  Speaker 2: I literally just sat back and said, what the.
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  Speaker 1: You know, WTF, Like, what are you doing? Man?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm being honest, et what are you doing? And
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  Speaker 2: it kind of led to the way that I led
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  Speaker 2: and named the episode tonight. But DT, bills are on defense.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't stopped them all day long. I think the
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  Speaker 2: stat came out DT that it was eleven of fifteen
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  Speaker 2: third down conversions for the Rams. So any confidence in
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  Speaker 2: your defense I think is misplaced and misguided in that respect.
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  Speaker 2: Bills are driving, excuse me, rams are driving. They get
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  Speaker 2: a penalty. I think it's third and seven. Sean McDermott
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  Speaker 2: has the choice. It's a holding call. Holding call would
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  Speaker 2: drop him to third and seventeen or let them go
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  Speaker 2: on fourth down and see if they're gonna kick that
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  Speaker 2: field goal. I described it on Twitter DT as inviting
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  Speaker 2: them to kick the field goal. Let's invite them to
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  Speaker 2: kick the field goal. Now it turns out Sean McDermott
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  Speaker 2: accepts the penalty, takes them back to thirty and seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: They get twelve yards anyway, which means they gained two
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  Speaker 2: yards in net yardage of what would have been versus
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  Speaker 2: what was And they go for it anyway on fourth
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  Speaker 2: down and they, you know, the defense was suspect all day.
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  Speaker 1: They still get that first down, DT.
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  Speaker 3: They scored a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they not only converted yes, so that fourth down,
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  Speaker 2: but they went down and go and went ahead and
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  Speaker 2: scored a touchdown to go up by nine. My thing
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  Speaker 2: was that why not invite them to kick the field
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  Speaker 2: goal on fourth and seven and preserve the clock by
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  Speaker 2: declining the penalty. What you're doing is you're saying that
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  Speaker 2: I have faith in my defense. Defense hadn't been worth
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  Speaker 2: the dam all day. It's just weird, man. It's like
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  Speaker 2: the inverse of the Houston game. Josh Allen played his
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  Speaker 2: worst possible game that we've ever seen him play against Houston.
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  Speaker 2: So why are you gonna throw throw the ball three
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  Speaker 2: times out of the end zone to win. He hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been playing well that day. Why don't you just play
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  Speaker 2: for overtime and find a way to extend this game.
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  Speaker 1: It's the inverse in this particular situation. Use the clock.
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  Speaker 1: The clock is what you need because you're down.
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  Speaker 2: By at that point, you were down by two, but
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  Speaker 2: you were going to be close to down by nine.
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  Speaker 1: That we didn't know at the time. DT.
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  Speaker 2: It was weird. And I've other shit for you as well,
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  Speaker 2: but that was weird to me. Man, that was weird.
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  Speaker 1: Said that. That was weirder than the goal is shit
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  Speaker 1: that we're getting ready to talk about.
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  Speaker 3: What yard line were they on for that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It was gonna be It was going to be a
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  Speaker 2: forty a high forty yarder. It was good if you
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  Speaker 2: invite them to kick, it was going to be a
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  Speaker 2: high forty yard Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So then accepting the third and seventeen, that puts them
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  Speaker 4: if if they don't get any yards, that puts some
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  Speaker 4: high fifties then yes, correct soft Yeah, I mean this
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  Speaker 4: is a you can't have the confidence in the d
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  Speaker 4: because you didn't make one stop the whole day. So
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  Speaker 4: the fact of you know what were they going for there, right,
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  Speaker 4: They were going to push them back and try to
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  Speaker 4: get them out of field goal range more or less.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's what That's what mco said, That's what you
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  Speaker 1: coach said, try.
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  Speaker 4: To try to get him out of field goal range.
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  Speaker 4: But then you gotta you gotta have you know, the
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  Speaker 4: joker in the deck. You gotta have that one defensive play,
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  Speaker 4: that one scheme that they haven't seen. You know, that's
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  Speaker 4: gonna guarantee. No, nothing's guaranteed, but you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: something that is different to to make that stop. They
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  Speaker 4: they're probably not going for it on fourth and seven.
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  Speaker 4: They're kicking that field goal, I think, so to go
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  Speaker 4: out five because then, like you said, then if they
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  Speaker 4: don't get it, they're only up to giving Josh on
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  Speaker 4: the ball with like what three minutes left, yes, on
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  Speaker 4: the forty yard line.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's that's as good as.
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  Speaker 2: They would would have gone up six. They would have
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  Speaker 2: gone up six if they attempted the field goal. They
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  Speaker 2: were going up six because they scored.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying, go for it. If so we declined
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  Speaker 4: the penalty and they go for it on fourth and seven.
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  Speaker 4: Problem kicking they're probably, that's what I mean, Yes, and
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  Speaker 4: they would have gone up. That would have put them
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  Speaker 4: up six. I'm pretty sure it. And then they get
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  Speaker 4: into fourth and fourth and five and it's almost guaranteed
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  Speaker 4: that they're going for it. So but then they're not
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  Speaker 4: going for it on fourth and seven. They're going for
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  Speaker 4: it on fourth and five, but they're not going for
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  Speaker 4: it on four.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I understand.
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  Speaker 4: Knowing that they haven't got to stop all day, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. That's that's tough.
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  Speaker 1: That's a little okay, third.
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  Speaker 4: And seventeen, no matter what the previous game has given you,
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  Speaker 4: no matter what the bullshit you've performed up until that point,
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  Speaker 4: third and seventeen, you gotta find a way, right, you
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  Speaker 4: got to find a way to at least go there.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's you know, the decision obviously on Sean McDermott.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, we go all the way back to
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of this game, like, yes, we can break down,
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  Speaker 4: which we will.
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  Speaker 3: I'm you know, you're you're on.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, every every negative or every positive goes
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  Speaker 4: back to the line of scrimmage, and the defensive line
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  Speaker 4: was that by far their worst game. Well, the defense's
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  Speaker 4: worst game of the year. But I've never seen the
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  Speaker 4: defensive line get pushed around like that.
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  Speaker 3: They were.
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  Speaker 4: They weren't even close to Matt Stafford, who is far
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  Speaker 4: from a mobile you know, youngster, you know, like like
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  Speaker 4: you used to be. And they didn't even sniff them.
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  Speaker 4: This is like prime you know, Mahomes in the AFC
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  Speaker 4: Championship game against us like this, we didn't even get
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  Speaker 4: close to this dude, and obviously that led to a comfort,
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  Speaker 4: that led to something. So I mean, you're putting it
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  Speaker 4: on them on third and seventeen, all right, give me
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  Speaker 4: one play, like one play to get to this dude.
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  Speaker 4: They're out of field goal range. We get the ball
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  Speaker 4: back down to we go down. We win a messy
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  Speaker 4: one on the road, you know, cross country trip after
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  Speaker 4: after winning our division, earliest that's ever you know, the
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  Speaker 4: Bills have ever done it, and in the snow the
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  Speaker 4: week before, we travel across the country. A little I
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  Speaker 4: think a little hangover, right, a little hangover of maybe
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  Speaker 4: of riches and knowing not necessarily taking the foot off
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  Speaker 4: the gas because they scored forty two points and Josh
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  Speaker 4: Allen looked as good as he ever has. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't know I I don't hate the I'm not just
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  Speaker 4: gonna disagree with you to disagree with you all night,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't hate the idea. I like third and
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  Speaker 4: seventeen from the fifty yard line, I or the forty
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  Speaker 4: five yards line.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth quarter though, and the clock is the most important thing.
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  Speaker 2: Is The only way I could push back at you
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  Speaker 2: is that it's not really about the score.
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  Speaker 1: It's about the clock.
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  Speaker 2: So why are we giving them another opportunity another play.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of weird, but yes, third and seventeen. To
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  Speaker 2: your point, you should get off the field. I agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. And the defense was garbage all day as
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  Speaker 2: we go forward, okay, so.
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  Speaker 1: No problem, we'll give you that.
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  Speaker 2: On decides to decline the penalty, it comes back to
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  Speaker 2: bite them in the ass because of the fact that,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, Sean McVay decides to go for it
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  Speaker 2: on fourth and five.
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  Speaker 1: They got twelve yards on that third and seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: He goes more than fourth and five, and then they
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  Speaker 2: proceeded to go down with ending with the pookah nakula
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  Speaker 2: excuse me, touchdown?
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  Speaker 3: So was that on fourth down the touchdown?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying that
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  Speaker 2: as the drive continued, as I mean, he got no
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  Speaker 2: they got twelve yards on that particular third and seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But then on fourth and five the next play wasn't
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  Speaker 4: the Nicoua touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, was it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they were still they still had.
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  Speaker 3: To cross the fifteen, Yeah, because.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Nakula touchdown was nineteen yards, so it couldn't
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  Speaker 2: yea yeah play, So all right, so we'll we'll push
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  Speaker 2: that aside. No problem, Sean, you you've got it. Sean,
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  Speaker 2: you're down nine now. The Bills, you know, and and
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  Speaker 2: and Josh Josh Allen again, you know, we already talked
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  Speaker 2: talked about it. He had a wonderful game. Really puts
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  Speaker 2: on the Superman Cape the Bills, to be honest, and
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  Speaker 2: we're all keeping it funking.
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  Speaker 1: We keep it real here at Nicol City. Grew.
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  Speaker 2: Bill shouldn't even have been in the game. Down seventeen,
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  Speaker 2: late second half. You're not even supposed to be in
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  Speaker 2: that game to begin with.
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  Speaker 3: So thirty one teams aren't in that game.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, thirty eight twenty one entering the fourth quarter. You're
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  Speaker 2: not supposed to be in that game. The Bill's obviously
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  Speaker 2: engineer a little bit of a comeback. Josh Allen scores
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  Speaker 2: mccolland mccollin's that beautiful pass to him as well the
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  Speaker 2: caveman that he had Tarzan and listen last drive. We
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  Speaker 2: get down there and we get down to the one
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  Speaker 2: yard line and Sean McDermott makes another decision when the
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  Speaker 2: lights are bright that that I think, really it didn't
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  Speaker 2: lose them the game DT, but it ensured that they
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  Speaker 2: would not win it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that there's a difference. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that I listened.
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  Speaker 2: I listened and consumed everything on WGR throughout this entire week,
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  Speaker 2: and you know people wanted to push back, well McDermot,
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  Speaker 2: you know the McDermott supporters, Well, he didn't lose us
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  Speaker 2: the game, and we weren't probably gonna win the game anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And this and that, I understand all of that.
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  Speaker 2: My biggest problem was that we never had an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to let Josh Allen go ahead and win the game. Why,
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  Speaker 2: if you ask, if you're under a rock and you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what happened, Bill's on first and goal at
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  Speaker 2: the one yard line called a toush push. Now I've
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  Speaker 2: heard that well, they didn't run their normal toush push,
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  Speaker 2: and they put Zach Davidson, the practice squad guy who
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  Speaker 2: has been elevated, they put him in motion and that's
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  Speaker 2: not normally your regular toush push. I don't really care
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  Speaker 2: about any of that type of stuff. Here's my main thing,
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  Speaker 2: Madden players. My youngest king is upstairs right now playing Madden.
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  Speaker 2: Quincy DT. You know Uncle DT. He's playing Madden right now,
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  Speaker 2: Quincy Nate. Even Bobby who messes around with Madden just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Madden players know how to Madden at
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  Speaker 2: the clock. If you've got three timeouts and you are
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  Speaker 2: down two scores, you have to preserve your timeouts. The
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  Speaker 2: reason being is that if you don't preserve your timeouts
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  Speaker 2: for defense, when you're on defense and you kick them
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  Speaker 2: back to them, you're not going to be kicking the
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  Speaker 2: ball back to them, You're going to be attempting an
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  Speaker 2: onside kick. They say it's a three percent chance to
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  Speaker 2: get an on side kick in this new league. Now
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  Speaker 2: you can't even do a surprise on side kick. Remember
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl DT, I think it was Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 2: where somebody came out with a surprise on side kick.
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  Speaker 2: After halftime, and everybody's, oh my gosh, now you've got
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  Speaker 2: to report it, just like you're reporting an eligible receiver
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  Speaker 2: for the offense. No surprise onside kick. They say it's
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  Speaker 2: three percent chance to get it. Sean McDermott alects to
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  Speaker 2: call a time out after the tush push fails. My
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  Speaker 2: thing DT as well.
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  Speaker 1: Rob.
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  Speaker 2: If you're bitching about the result, what would you have
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  Speaker 2: done different? Send two plays in, Joe Brady, Send two
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  Speaker 2: plays in if we get stopped for whatever reason. I
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  Speaker 2: know it's a ninety nine percent or ninety eight percent
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  Speaker 2: success rate on the toush push for Josh Allen, and
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  Speaker 2: he's a he's an actual literal buffalo, and we all
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  Speaker 2: get that. If just in case we don't get it,
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  Speaker 2: let's make sure that we're getting off the ball quickly.
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  Speaker 2: What I heard I didn't know is that the refs
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  Speaker 2: will even stop the clock if there's unsportsmanlike conduct and
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  Speaker 2: some of the defenders are trying to lay on the
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  Speaker 2: offensive lineman and they're trying to delay the process of
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  Speaker 2: different things like that.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that that was a rule.
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  Speaker 2: The ref has the ability to stop the clock just
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  Speaker 2: in case if there's some type of unsportsmanlike conduct where
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  Speaker 2: the defensive linemen are trying to belabor the time and
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  Speaker 2: waste the clock.
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  Speaker 1: So really, what do you have to lose?
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  Speaker 2: Call two plays if they don't get it for some
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  Speaker 2: reason on that tousch push have that other play in
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  Speaker 2: the actual Holster ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: DT. The fact that he called the timeout ensured that
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  Speaker 1: we weren't going to win the game. As soon as
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  Speaker 1: he called time out, I knew we lost the game.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Brady on the broadcast talked about it, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, man, it just leads me. It just leads
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  Speaker 2: me with much desired with this with this guy McDermot
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  Speaker 2: just seems to not get it. Man, I'm sorry, DT, I.
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  Speaker 4: Have qualms with the timeout. I'm with you there, I'm
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  Speaker 4: with you there. I know media he thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: You need to keep the three. I mean the Josh
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  Speaker 4: Allen effect. You have to be ready for it, you know.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: But it's the Josh Allen effect. The last time he
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: hasn't got a fourth and one is when he slipped.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: In Tennessee on Monday night four years ago.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: You know, that's the last time the quarterback sneak has
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: not worked with Josh Allen.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: To my memory, you're you know, so you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Can't assume in this league though, and obviously they assumed.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: They assumed he was getting in. But then even if
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: he doesn't, get your ass up and just run it again,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: like I didn't get the time, like I didn't get
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the time out because they just ran the QB sneak again.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: They put in different personnel whatever, but like whatever, it
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: shouldn't matter if the if Sam Martin is behind Josh
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Allen giving him the push push, like Josh would be
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: able to get in from the inch line, and he
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: knew that and he took obviously responsibility for it because
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: that's what he has to do.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Whatever obviously wasn't his fault.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: We lost this game by any means, but the the
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: josh on effect of like just assuming he was getting
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: in and then he didn't. But then, yeah, the timeout
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I thought was unwarranted. I have qualms with the timeout.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I'm with you there. That's just goes back to the
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: book of what are you doing? The timeout was completely unnecessary.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Just get back up on the ball and run the
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: toushbush again.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You're not going to waste that time.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: You look bad, but you look bad calling the timeout anyway,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: So I agree, I have I they assumed it because
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: they haven't seen him not get fourth and or of
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the yard in forty years. But be prepared, to be prepared,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: it's got to be communicated then to it's just hurry
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: up and joh and then maybe you know, if anything
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: was on Josh, that's go to Josh there, okay, ship
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I didn't get in on the ball, like, no, don't call.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: The timeout, and that dude was ready to call the timeout.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: He panicked, which is why my main thing is that
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I think that he I.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Got Coalms with the timeout. I got Coalms with the timeout.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I'm with you there, unacceptable, But I obviously they weren't.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: They thought he's getting in no like they nobody. They
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: didn't have a backup plan, and that shows that's not
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: good either. That show's obviously unprepared. You know that the
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Andy Reids are never unprepared.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: So I agree it was the Josh Allen effect, four
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: years of not getting it on unmargined.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Can't can't you keep.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Trying, you keep trying to throw that caveat in there.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that that's what McDermott was thinking or
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: you know, Okay, I'm not sure. I think that McDermott
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: was thinking he was going to get in. My thing
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: is that you are the head coach of a professional
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: football team. You are paid millions of dollars. You need
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to have contingency plans in effect and ready to go.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: What infuriated me about thirteen seconds and all of Bills, Bafia,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: all of Nicol City crew was that there's no way
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that you should lose a game when you are up
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: thirteen seconds and you have an opportunity to get a
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: chance to go to the AFC Championship game. This team
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: is on their last leg. You were not prepared. It
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: showed in your coverages. It showed a couple of years
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: later against Cincinnati in your coverages, it showed.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It showed that you weren't prepared.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So when I see the timeout called and McDermott takes
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: his head set off and he's walking up the sideline
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: to call that time out with the ref, I just
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: thought I knew that the game was over then, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I was pissed off because of the fact that again, yes,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the chances were slim, and I could even understand that
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm a realist. I pride myself on
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: being a Buffalo Bill's realist, So I understand that it
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: was still going to be what it would have been.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: If you kick the ball back to the Rams.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You've got three stops, you've got to make force a punt,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and what it might be twenty five maybe thirty seconds
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: if you're lucky, what the case may be, depending on
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: how long the plays take for the Rams to run.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I understand that. And in addition, I'll give Bills Mafia
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: because I heard.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: This on Twitter.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Well, there's no there's no guarantee that they wouldn't have
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: gotten the first down. You're absolutely right, there is no guarantee.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Sean McDermott did not lose us the game. He made
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: sure that we couldn't fucking win it, And that is
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: what bothers me, DT, because it seems to be a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: theme with this dude.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That's what bothers me. He made sure during thirteen seconds
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that we couldn't win the game by playing that off coverage.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He made sure during the.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati well, the Cincinnati game was out of hand, but
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: he made sure kicking all those field goals in the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: ASC Championship game that we weren't going to be able
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to be competitive long enough in the game to stay
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: close to Kansas City to win that game. And then
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: you've got a situation against you know, the Eagles where
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: he he kneels on the ball. Well, I don't know
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: if Josh Allen would have been able to throw something
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: out of his hat, but I know one thing is
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: for sure, you can't You can't figure it out if.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: You don't try kneeling on the ball. Some bullshit. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, this guy he rubs me the wrong way. Man,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: he rubs me the wrong way.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Are they do they if they have the three timeouts
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: so they kick the outside kick?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: No, they're gonna put They're gonna kick it off playfield position.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: They're gonna try to get three stops and then at
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that point after first down timeout, second nine timeout, uh
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and third down timeout and then hopefully you stop them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Now they hadn't been running the ball crazy good. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: think Kyrauen Williams ended up with like three yards to carry.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: What the case may be, there's no way that we're
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: gonna know what the scenario plays out like. But yo,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: they we're gonna kick it deep and they're gonna call
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: their timeouts if they have all three timeouts, to try
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to force them the punt. Like I said, twenty five
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: thirty maybe thirty two thirty three seconds if you're lucky
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: on offense for Josh Allen, no timeouts and go drive
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the length of the field to try to get into
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: field goal range because again they would have been up
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to and a field goal would win the game. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: just I just thought that it was it was poor management.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I thought that he panicked, and it reminded me of
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: some of the things that make me scared about Sean McDermott.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Now as we transition spare, yeah, and as we transitioned
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the last the last which is a little bit.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: More good go ahead.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Just I mean, it was an unacceptable performance, you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: top to bottom defensively, and obviously that falls on him too,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: being the you know, we give credit to him when
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: you know, even I know Bobby Babbage calls the plays now,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: but the defense credit goes to Tom mcgermott's always, it
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: always goes to Sean McDermott. And that, Yeah, defensively, they
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: were they got pushed around. They you know, they weren't prepared.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: They you know, they're there. That was bad all the
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: way around, defensively, you know, from the from the trenches
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: back and you know, throw a couple sports Center top
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: ten miraculous, Pookin Nicole catches and Matt Stafford dimes and
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you know, and Pook and Nicola might be that guy
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: because this Thursday, a game where they didn't score a touchdown,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: they put forty five on one of the best these
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: we thought, and then they don't score a touchdown last night.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: You know, pook and still had another couple right sports
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Center tighlight. You know, everything went right for them. We
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: played our worst game of the year. But I see
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: what you're saying. When it did get to crunch time,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: when it did get to we still got a shot
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: at this because of one seven, you kind of you
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: kind of fucked it up.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: So okay, that's that's a that's a point. That's a point.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Last part of it and that and this is to me.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You know, like you said, you really didn't care too
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: much about the third down excepting the penalty. To me,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the last part is it games over At
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: that point, Bill's go for the pump block. They don't
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: get a chance to go for the pump block because
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: they have nine men on the field, not eleven nine.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I watched a game against Denver last season that that
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: really infuriated me. Nicol City Crew knows because you could
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: look at the archives and there were twelve men on
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the field after the kicker had missed the kick to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: win the game, to get another try, they win the game.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: There's eleven men on the field after the five yard
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: penalty is enforced DT. I know he doesn't run special teams,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: but here's here's my thing on all of it. And
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I think that this encompasses all of it. And we've
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: talked about this before on Nickol City Crew in the past.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: He is the CEO of the team. Because he's the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: CEO of the team, I'm going to hold him responsible
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: for everything that happens. I don't give a dim if
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: he's a defensive coach. I don't give a damn that
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: he's not an offensive coach. He hears every play. He
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: hears everything on those headphones. He hears every offensive play,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: every defensive play. Joe Brady's speaking, Bobby Babbage is speaking,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and obviously with special teams as well, he hears every play.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: If there is something wrong, I would like for you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: as the head coach, to step up and speak about it,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and speak up and say, hey, this is fucked up.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: We're not doing this. When they called that time out
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: before the with the chiefs, hey we're not playing that coverage.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: This sounds crazy to me. No, we're not gonna do
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that thirteen seconds. We're not No no, no, no, no, no
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: no no, we're not doing that. What had happened? We
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: got embarrassed by Patrick Mahomes who on National TV yells
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to his buddy Kelsey, do it, do it?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Do it. It was audible on the broadcast. Hey Kelse,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: do it, do it? Do it? Do it. I don't
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: want to be embarrassed by this guy anymore. DT. I'm
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: sorry again.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not calling for his job because I stopped calling
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: for his job because I know that doesn't matter unless
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Pegoula or Josh Allen give a shit. If Josh Allen's
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: not gonna go to Pegoula and tell him to fire him,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: he's not going anywhere because Pagola enjoys his success. Because
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: his damn hockey team is so damn shitty. I just
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: don't think that this guy should be the coach forever.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It just be getting be given these these these passes
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: he's given. In my mind, he's given passes to have
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: carte blanche. He's much like Rex Ryan, He's much like
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Dick Charon. He just doesn't do it for me, man,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: when the lights are brightness, he doesn't do it for me.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Nine men on the field and you're calling you want
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to call a punt block coverage, you can't even do
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: it because it's not And then Condrington gets the ball.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: No one told him that this is the last play
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: of the game, and you go ahead on and field
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: that motherfucker, Like, go ahead and field it, and we'll
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: do whatever.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: We can do. I just it's just the unorganization of it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, I don't know, man, I don't know. Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, they weren't you know, weren't comfortable in these
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: in these situations, weren't comfortable being down, you know. But hey,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: we go cross country on a little bit of a
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: hangover from our fifth straight division title. If this if
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: this is the game to kind of chalk some things up,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: this is the game to chalk some things up. Let's
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: let's go on and get it back against a one
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: loss Detroit team that the world is you know, infatuated
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: with and it's it's really annoying, and we can go
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: in there and you know, and knock it right down
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: and beat this team and be right back where we
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: got to be.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: So I get it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I hope it's not foreshadowing.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I hope you're wrong.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I hope it's not foreshadowing to you know, it's never
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: going to go away. But if this was the game
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: to be a little messy, this was the game to
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: be a little messy.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say that I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was counting on this game because because of the game
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that we're getting ready to talk about with Detroit, I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: was counting on the fact that they were going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: be buttoned up and go ahead and get this win.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Because of the fact that I was, I was going
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to be accepting the fact that we might lose to Detroit.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's funny because you know, when you look at it
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: DT as we transition it, you know, I don't want
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: him to ever be the reason why we lose. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I guess that's really where I'm coming from. I think
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that he has been in situations where he was the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: reason that we lost games. He was the culprit, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I think that that's one of the most frustrating parts
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: for me personally.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And I want you to speak.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: About it because I know that you said that you
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: don't want me to be right and you want me
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to be wrong, and I get it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I want to be wrong too.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I just think that there are so many different examples
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: now where I have to look at Sean McDermott. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: have to wonder if he understands it, if he gets it,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: because he talks about growth mindset.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I just heard of damn press.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Conference the other day the other day talking about oh,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: lay it all on the line, and we've got to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: be ready to lay it all on the line. And
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: this is that, like, dude, are you laying it all
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: on the line? Do you understand your job description? Do
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you understand how important you are to the success and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: failure of this team? I just I don't know, man,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he gets a DT before we
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: transition to Detroit. I need to know if you think
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that he gets it. I just don't know if he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: gets it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Well, we talked last week about you know, do you
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: see the turn? Have you seen him learning? And you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: kind of preached of I think it's set up for
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: him to learn. But and you said why because he
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: he did a snow angel. You know he's back because
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: he did a snow angel. So I don't know. I'm
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: not getting myself worked up against an NFC team who's
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: probably gonna win the NFC West. To be honest, you know,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: this team is solid. The NFC West is is kind
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: of trash. They're probably gonna come back and win this
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: the NFC West. They're gonna be in the playoffs and
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: they're gonna be a tough out. A lot of these
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: high class NFC teams don't want to play the Rams,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: you know. They they kind of have the talent. They
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: they're sneaking and face creative whatever.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not putting them on the stake across
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: country game against the decent RAMS team on a hangover
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: from the division title. I'm not putting them on the
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: stake yet. But I will come clean and eat my
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: words if this happens in the playoffs, and then you
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: know I have to agree with you. And that's that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: that is it. I mean, that is it. There's nothing else.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: There's there's too many, too many excuses, too many times
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: this I'm not counting as the time happens in the playoffs.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I'll eat my words right here on Nicol City Crew,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: give you your credit and we but we're gonna change
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: that tide this week as we get into.
• 30:04
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• 30:44
  Speaker 2: As we transition, I think that you know, one of
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the things that stings the most is because now we've
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: dropped another game behind Kansas City. The horseshoe stays firmly
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: lodged up their ass.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It just won't go anywhere. Another nailbier.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: On Sunday Night Football, they beat the Chargers nineteen to seventeen,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: so they stayed two games clear of the Bills. Now again,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: all we need to do Bills Mafia is be tied
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: with them because of the head to head, and then
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: we would go ahead and get that number one seed.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: So that kind of puts a damper in it. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: think the Chiefs play the Browns this week, so we'll
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: see how that goes. Maybe Jamis Winston can his prayers
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: have been answered, He's delivered from the pick sixes and
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: he talked about and he can go ahead and on
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: and get.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: A nice upset victory of the year against.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard Patrick Mahomes talking about it and bitching
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: about it this week in his press conferences about how
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: they've got all these different games and they got Christmas
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: right after three games in eleven days. Is crazy now
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: that I have to even admit that that's crazy. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: think the Bills played what we played two and ten,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: and we were like, damn, that was a tough stretch.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: So three and eleven is pretty crazy for a football player.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: The defense had their worst performance. He talked about it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I spoke about it as well. Forty four points given
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: up Stafford. I saw some funny stuff point Twitter last night,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and then like Stafford looked like Jesus last week against US,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: and now he looks like shit. You know what I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: mean this week? You know everybody in Bill's BOFFI was lamenting.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Obviously it was some wet conditions as well. But DT,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: how do we bounce back from this? Is this something
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: that can linger? Because I had to see the defense
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: look like that in a while. Not that they've been great.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I've never called this version of the twenty twenty four
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Bills defense is great.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I think they've been good. Yes, I think they've been efficient.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: They ben but don't break, stopping them in the in
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the in the red zone area. And then again, as
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you spoke about being a really great and opportunistic with
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: their turnovers, they didn't get any turnovers. They didn't touch
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Matt Stafford at all. Greg Rousseau was a no show.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Von Miller might have been their best pass rusher and
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: he only got a chance to get to the quarterback
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of times, and really affect the passer.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: At Oliver heard a lot of shadow on WGR this.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Week about at Oliver that some period you know and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the people like us that love Day Day talking about
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: all you need to get his daydated back and he's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: gonna play better.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: All you need to do is get dated back.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: He's back and he's still playing, Like why why we
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: give you all this money?
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: D T Can the can the defense bounce back?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Because that was a that was an uninspiring performance to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: say the least.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Do you know the I don't know what baseball team
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: this is, but the Freeze, the Freeze.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: You ever seen this?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: The dudes that you they call people down the race
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: in the in the outfield, right, they let the the
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: person starts hauling ass is as fast as they can
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: around like the warning track of the outfield. And then
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: the mister Freeze dude is this dude. He dresses up
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: like mister Freeze. He's fast, and he gives them like
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: a huge head start and then he starts halling ass
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: and and usually catches up and beats them.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: And these people, these people think that they're gonna win
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: because they're so far ahead and so and they're they're gritting,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and they're grinding, and then Freeze comes in and blows
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: through them. Ben Don't Break is kind of similar to that.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: The Bills let the let that team kind of run
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: a little bit out in front of him, and then
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: they say, all right, clicks in and then they put
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: on the after burners and keep it going. Well, once
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: in a while, you're gonna get a fast motherfucker in
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: front of you, and you got enough to get back
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: and get and get to him. And that's exactly what
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: we saw, you know, on on Sunday. So I think, yes,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: they can come back from it, knowing that, you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: that's kind of the way they play. I'm not saying
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: they purposely let them, you know, score all these points
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and then we're trying to catch up and couldn't. Just
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: the fact of we got to bring that that gap
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: down a little bit, especially with this Detroit team, who's
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I say, probably very similar to the Rams, but a
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: little better, you know, a little bit better run game
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: for sure. I'm not Saint Brown kind of pisses me
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: off nowadays too.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: He thinks something crazy.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I love I love, I love him, But.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: We can come back. We need to shorten that that
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: we're mister freeze here. We can't let this this cat.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: We know they're fast. Now we know they're fast. We
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: didn't know last week how fast. Now we know they're fast.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: So we need to shorten that gap up and start
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: our race a little quicker. And I said it earlier
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: in the show, It's gonna come down to physicality.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: The Lions are known to play physical.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Dan Campbell literally lives and breathes on it, and we
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: have to we have to be you know, it's got
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: to be a chip on the shoulder game.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: It's gotta be a.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: You know, we're we're the elite team in this league.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: We're an elite physical defense, defensive line, linebackers, Matt Mullane's back.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: You know, we gotta fly around and and and lay licks.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: And I think that's what you know, They've heard some
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: ship this week, and I hope it pisses them off.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: So that's why I think we bounced back, just that
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: physical game. Start controlling that line of scrimmage again defensively
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: like we Jared Goff. I think we have a little
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: better chance to get to them than Stafford, but they're
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: not gonna throw anywhere near as many times as the Yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: that tackle back too, So you know, there's it's a
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: tall task, but I think we can bounce back from
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: it with a little chip on her shoulder and no
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: still play our game, but know that we have to
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: start that race a little quicker. We got to be
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: mister Freeze, got to know this motherfucker in front of
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: us is pretty fast and we can't let him out
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: to a big lead.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that you talked about that. There's a
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: couple of things that I took away from what you
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: just said, because you know, I think that this is
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: going to be a game that is going to have
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: to rely on scoring points. I think that one of
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the things that also upset me or made me feel
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: just made me feel a certain type of way was
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: after the game. I think it was the next statement,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Derrett was talking about the line of scrimmage, which obviously
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: is very important, and then he had talked about how
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: he kind of lamented the fact that the run game
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: didn't get going, and he was he kept just talking
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: about the run game and how it wasn't what he
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: wanted it to be. And obviously James Cook didn't have
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: a great day. But my thing was that the passing
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: game was working. When you needed Josh Allen, you needed
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: him and he showed up for you. So why are
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you so oh? Why are you so infactuated with the
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: run game? And again, line of scrimmage is different. We've
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: had a great offensive line. Detroit has the best offensive
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: line in the league, So I understand the importance of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: an offensive line defensive line, same way they affect the quarterback.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: That can change the entire complexion of the game. I
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: get all that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: However, the fact that he laments it kind of put
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: me back into it again. What have I always said
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: about him? He is Rex Ryan and Dick Duran. He
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: he's just more polished. Rex Ryan once said that he
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: felt bad that we got ran over by the Patriots
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: because they ran over as it wasn't like they threw
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: it on us. And I'm like, what the fuck does
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: it matter if they threw it or ran it on us,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: if they still scored forty something points and whooped our ass,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Like so it doesn't.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make me feel any better.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: If I get scored on by forty then you ran
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: it all day, Or if I get scored on with
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: forty and you threw it all day either way, you
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: scored forty and I look stupid at the end of
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: And it comes down to that football, that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Masculinity, there's a there's there's something to that and how
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: those coaches think. I think McDermott is right in that
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: same cloth. He's cut from that same cloth where he
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: would rather he would much rather pound you to death
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: with the ground game as opposed to Josh Allen winning
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: or fighting in a shootout. And I think that he
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: he showed some of his true colors the next couple
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: of days.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: But that's been the biggest, the biggest kind of you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: kudos to this team this year. The Bills team overall
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: is like their a little chameleon esque, you know, like
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: whatever they need to do to win the game offensively,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: they're able. They've shown they're able to do it. You know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: if if Josh Allen's got to throw for one hundred
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: yards and they beat the Dolphins by forty, great, If
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: he's got to if he's got to throw for three
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: hundred and literally score six touchdowns against the Rams, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: obviously they fell short, but great. The week before he's
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: got to throw and catch his own touchdowns, great, like
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: they they are a chameleon this year of whatever is needed,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: they've they've seemed to work into it. And that's what
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: we think makes them good. Right, Like, we got a
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: good run game of we need it, we got a
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: good pass game if we need it, we got you
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: bring the the tackle eligible in there and the extra
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: alignment if we need it. So I'm yeah, I if
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: you're picking picking stuff like that, but it is what
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: it is. Like, It's not like we were running down
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: you know, down seventeen. He wasn't like, well, we're running
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: the ball like he's saying it, but we're in the
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: gun and whipping it around and so okay.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: But I think he knows like that, Josh is gonna
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: do whatever he has to do.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: To win games and be the chameleon. And that's there's
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: a lot under the hood. There's a lot left with
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: this offense.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: So I I just want him to his bread is buttered,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and I want him to embrace it and not seem
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: like he's But I don't think.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: He's like he's calling run when we should have called
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: pass or anything like you know, or yelling at Joe
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Brady when you know it is what it is. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: think the trust is there on that side of the ball.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: He can have philosophies, but I think it comes down
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: to this offense being chameleon and Josh Allen being unstoppable,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and you know that's what it is. So I get
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: what you're saying, but I don't think it affects what
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: we're gonna see on the field.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, I agree. I agree to a large extent with that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Now, something funny that happened last night that actually speaks
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: about something that you just talked about that you may
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: not even know what you what you said you had
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: spoke about Matt Milano. I watched uh Deveandre Campbell you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: quit on his teammates last night, and then that's been
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the buzz on ESPN and all the other networks. One
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: of the reasons why is because he felt disrespected. Dorian
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Williams has not gotten any snaps and Matt Mulano Bill's
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Mafia Nicol City Crew, you could you come right at me.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: He has not looked that good. It looks like he
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: is still ramping up.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I've been interested and I wanted to call WGR this
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: week and I didn't get a chance to, but I
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: wanted to get some opinions on how you feel about
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: a DT because to me, it's a little bit suspect.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: The reason being is that this guy is coming off
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: of a major leg injury. We've talked about it before
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: the crew. It's not a ligament, so it's just the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: bone healing and get back out there. I understand that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: but he has not played football and he needs to
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: ramp back up. You had the leading tackler, one of
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the leading tacklers in the NFL, not just on the Bills,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: he was one of the leading like he was like
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: top three in the in the entire league. He goes
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: to the bench. He doesn't see the field at all.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: There's no type of ramp up for for Villano. There's
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: no type of easing him into the game plan. As
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: soon as he was ready to play against San Francisco,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: he played every damn near snap.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Dorian Williams has been on nothing but special teams.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I was wondering, not a Devondre Campbell's situation exactly, that
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: he's quitting on the team or anything like that, But
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I did feel like I could understand that Dorian Williams
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: felt a little bit disrespected by the fact that this
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: guy comes back off the street and takes all.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Of my snaps like that is and isn't balling out
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah bingo, yeah, no.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I agree, And it's it's weird.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: It goes against the philosophy of this organization because if anything,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: they're super conservative with shit like this. If anything, it
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: is full ramp up and we're like, okay, let the
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: guy play already, you know, like me right right, right,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: and yeah. So I was very surprised, and especially this
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: wasn't just you know, dude was coming off a hammy
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks on the IR. Dude was
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: out a year plus, you know, like, dude was out
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: a long ass time. So I agree, it's it's weird,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: and it goes against all the philosophy of what this
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: team and foundations stand for. You know, obviously obviously shows
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: superior confidence in fifty eight.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: You know that he is the dog.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: But if it hasn't, it hasn't bore fruit man, he's
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: not playing that well right now.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, last week the shock factor, right, like learn how
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: to swim again by by jumping right back in the
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: deep end. So if that's what they're doing, okay, but
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: they don't do that. You know, so it is a
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: little weird, a little fishy. I hope, I hope it works.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I hope Matt Malono, you know, he's don't don't drown
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: down there, dude, give that syrace, you know, well you
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: still can. Yeah, I think they're they're they're obviously just
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: trying to shock shock them into play, you know, a
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: a dum right back into the right, back into this defense.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: And then once he gets back into the rhythm, gets
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: through his ramp up by you know, by fire, basically
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: just right in the fire, gets back ramped up. Then
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: you have the two added monster Dorian can get back
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: some snaps, and you know, so it feels like they're
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: doing it purposely, not to anti Dorian, but to force
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Milano to get like, Okay, we're gonna give you every
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: snap to get into it. Like and I don't know
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: if I agree with it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: It's the locker room dynamics, you know, and like how
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: this guy has been they usually.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Do, but obviously they're just pumping Matt Milano and like, okay,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: we got to get you ready by fire.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'll let you off the hook on
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: that one. It was just interesting and you.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Don't I don't necessarily like it because it's it's not
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: what they usually do.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: And Dorian Williams has earned his snacks.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that that That's that's all I'm trying
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I thought that he had earned the opportunity to let
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: fifty eight come back at his own pace and let
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: him kind of ease back into this thing. And not
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: only did they throw them in the deep end, but
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: you know, like I said, just he hasn't been swimming,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been treading water. Has not looked good for
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: him thus far, and again that's to be expected. So
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: if you would have expected him to be a little
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: bit rusty, then why I take off? You know, a
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: guy who would I think that it was trying to
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: find a way to come into his own that type
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: of thing. So that's neither here nor there. Well we'll
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: see that's a smaller little morsel for you guys.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey didn't go out.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Who knows we would have been Maybe it was a
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: this is a conversation we're having last week, you know,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: you never know.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Now, as we begin to transition to wrap up,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: before we get to the Tailgate report, I wanted to
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: get your prediction on on this week and what you
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: think about it, because again, I think it's going to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: be high scoring game. I think that it's going to be,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: you know, not just because the defense played bad last week.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: That's not why I'm saying that. We've obviously seen, you know,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: the Lions score. They're the number one scoring offense in
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the league. The Bill's are number two. For Bill's Mafia
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: nicol City crew out there, we're right below them. I
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: think they're averaging like thirty two and a half points
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: a game. We're right below them. So these are two
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: great offenses getting ready to go after it. And one
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of the things that I was going to be looking
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: at is you talked about Saint Brown. I was gonna
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: be I had not seen the cornerbacks kind of taken
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: advantage of the way that they were by Nicole and
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Coop and Cooper Cup. And it'll be interesting because it
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't get any easier with Saint Brown and Jamison Williams, Like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't. There's there's no really where to hide.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow one Sunday for those guys. You got to get
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: your shit together. Now you've got to You got wrapped, Yeah,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you got rap hurt. You got hamdling a little bit
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: banged up. I doubt that they throw hide into the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: water just getting off the street and coming back regardless
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: of his conditioning.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: DT. This could be a situation where we're right back
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: where we were last week, where you got to score,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to score point.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not coming into this game basically thinking that the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: defense is going to hold up.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: How about that that's the best way to put it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Sure, but in the last in the last eight games,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: to score thirty or more, you know so, But I
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, glass half full, obviously, but I'm looking
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: at this in a sharp in a sharp way here
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: of last week. I told you, you know, to kind
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: of go back to the to the gambling forefront because
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: not that the NFL is rigged or anything like that,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: That, but that line, that line last week was a
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: little low.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: You know, that was a little low last week if
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: it was only a three point spread, and I think
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: it baited the public into Hammer and the Bills and
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: knowing that, you know, they kind of overlooked like they
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: it was a little hangover from the Snow Division title
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: to go across the country and they were gonna get
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: punched in the mouth a little bit, and that's exactly
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: what happened. So that's what made me nervous about last week.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: This week, I think it's totally opposite. I think people
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: now are totally underestimating that one to seven just had
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: six touchdowns, the best fantasy quarterback performance ever with six
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: touchdowns last week. I think they're completely underestimating that and saying, oh,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: the Rams aren't that good and hung forty on them.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Lions are the best offense we've seen in a while.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: They're gonna hang you know, they're gonna hang a bunch
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: of points on him too. I think it's a nice
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: bounce back opportunity. I think it's it's the Lions turn
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: to kind of have their faulter. The Bills had that
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: this nice streak and then they kind of got a
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: little little stumble. I think it's the Lions turned to
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: stumble a little on their end and see a little
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: bit of their own medicine. And that defense has, you know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: thirteen guys on some shit. So you know, what's what's
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: slowing one to seven down, especially now like the dude
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: is playing his best football. We've probably seen since that year,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: you know, the the thirteen second year, and probably just
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: as good you know, in the past past four or
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: five games that he's he's put out. So I'm glass
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: half full here. Bounce back mentality, the the vibes and
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: the thing. I think the public is gonna shift now
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: to the Lions, like, oh, the Bills just got forty
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: hung on them, So the Lions are gonna kill him.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: And it's like, nah, that dude wants seven. Just had
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: six cuddies as well in that game. He's coming back.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: He's never lost in Ford Field. Some miracles, you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: you saw one right in front of your face. So
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: that's where I'm at. I'm in the confident bounce back game,
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: looking at it in a sharp point of view of
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: you know, public's gonna be heavy on Detroit.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: It's a hot team to like Bills. Bills are those dudes,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: So that that's.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Kind of where I'm at with it to at least
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: help myself get to sleep to Sunday.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love it, I love it. I love you
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: so much to DT you always. I just paid the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: lady at the front desk. I gave her my Bills
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Mafia insurance card and I said.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I need to go talk to doctor DT.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And again you talked me off the ledge, but you
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: definitely didn't talk me off the ledge with with Withchel McDermott.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I'm watching that motherfucker real, real close.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: And you, I'm with you that, I'll give you that
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: and you and I but I will say, like I said,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I kind of a throwaway game, if you will, if
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: it happens in the playoffs, I'll eat my words.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: That is what it is. And then we got a
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: really tough conversation I have.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's where we're at.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I had just got I had
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: worked myself up to accepting the possibility of Detroit loss,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: staying one game behind Kansas City that I'd never even
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't give much credence to the to the Rams
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: beating us, and I can I can put my hand
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: up and cop to that. I thought we'd win the game,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if it'd be close or blowout.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I did not really factor in that we could lose
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: it because I was so focused on this week, in
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: this big primal matchup. Now again, as we begin to
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: conclude tonight, they're calling a Super Bowl fifty nine preview,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: possibly the Bills.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's Bills. I think it's Chiefs.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Lions are number one most likely odds for the Super Bowl,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: and I think right after that is Bill's Lions. So
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. I know my sisters there
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: in Detroit, and she's going to be watching as well.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: She's a Bills fan, obviously member of the MOBA, but
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: she's a CBS or a Fox. It is a CBS game. Yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: interesting obviously, yeahs Romo, so we should enjoy it. As
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: we begin to wrap up tonight, I really appreciate your
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: time tonight, DT. I wanted to get through it. I
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: wanted to talk about it. I'm mad about all three decisions.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Once again that that seems to ring a bell, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: because of that, I'm going to be continuing to watch him.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I've always been watching Sean mcnerbbers since thirteen seconds. But
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I was really disheartened. Again, I'll put my hand up.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: As we closed tonight, I did not think we were
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: going to win the game, and we were already down seventeen.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Once we were down seventeen, I was like, damn man,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: we gave this game up, it's over. Once Josh Allen
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: put on the cape and I was like, oh shit,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: we might have a chance to win this thing. Once
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: he called that time out, I knew it was over.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Anytime you have non sit kick, that's pretty much the
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: end of it. So as we were begin to close
• 50:32
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• 51:02
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• 51:05
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• 51:08
  Speaker 2: up right now, and hats on Christmas trees, and and
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: just the whole assortment of stuff. Buffalo bills, Buffalo sabers,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: all of that nostalgic retro gear as the kids call it,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that that drip as the kids call it.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Baby.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: This week they had they had a special Wyoming drop
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: all one seven Wyoming stuff and.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: You know, insider info.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know when or what game, but you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: obviously they're tight with miss miss Steinfeld.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Now, yeah, and allegedly they have a few pieces that
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: Josh might be repping, repping free like walking into a game.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: So we'll see, keep it eye out.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: We will keep an eye out for sure.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Nichols City Crew Tilberate Report again sponsored by Queen City
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Vintage DT. I had I had all the Kings on Sunday,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: and then I didn't have the girls, but I had
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: all the Kings on Sunday, and then it was getting
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: towards like, you know, one two o'clock, and I was like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm really in for, like a sub,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Like I want a good classic something. Now there's no
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Wegmans down here, so I can't get hooked up all
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: the way, Like Okay, I can't really get what I
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: really want, but I can get close to it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: So I wanted this up.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: So we did some Jersey Mike, so Nate Nate had
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: over one of his buddies, so I sent the text
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: message to Bobby. I was in the shed chilling, listening
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: and watching the one o'clock games, and I said the
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: text meson. I said, tell me exactly what y'all want.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I need to know everything that you wanted the sandwich.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: So nobody is disappointed. And I sent out the text
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: message and had the fellas let me know what they wanted.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: So Nate had a little buddy over from his basketball team.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: All four of them put down their order. Bobby's texted
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: me back to order and it went exactly and I
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: want this, and I want banana peppers, and then somebody
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: wants onions on it, and listen, I did a nice
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Hogi style from Jersey Mike's you know the number fifty six,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: the big Kahuna. I wanted the big one a little
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: steak sub and the rest of them got hooked up
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: with their subs. So I went to the store right
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: before I picked up the subs, got a nice big
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: bag of chips, got some again.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I'm down here, Charlotte Bill's Maffi, I don't I don't
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: have it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Nicholas and the crew don't have the Bison, But I
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: got you know, the replica, you know, the Wish up the.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Hall them a good yeah, the Wish version, and uh
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: got some some chips and dipped for the fellas and
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: and went and got those subs. And that was it. Man.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: We were right here right uh downstairs, watching on the
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: big screen and uh and consuming the game. And I
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: was right here in the same exact chair that I'm
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: in right now watching the game. For the back of
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the room, everybody's on the couches and they're enjoying themselves.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: They tore up those subs and we had a good time.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: It was just the Kings on Sunday. It was just
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the Kings, Me and my my three Kings and the
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: like I said, one of theate's buddies. But we were here, man,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I was I was representing, I was doing my part.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I was in the move for a sub. And that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: that's where the day took me.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: Hey, shout out to Mike's man. I I love Jersey Mikes.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: We just started getting them in buff a few years ago.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously, love of Wegmans, love of Debellas, but
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: I'll take Jersey, you know, right up with them, right
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: up with and another little here right at the end
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: of the batch bad right on the end of Lindon,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: they took out my favorite Habati restaurant Tokyo to r
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: P Corporate America. They put in a Chipotle and then
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: they're putting in a Jersey Mike. So we got a
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Jersey Mike coming on the block.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: That So.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Next year when I'm in town, good report, good report there.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: That's it's chill. Same. So we come in, uh Sunday,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: trying to think of what the weather was like. Not
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: too bad.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Was warming up from the from the you know, the
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: cold and the snow from the week before. Hit Up,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: hit Up Southern Tier downtown. It used to be seven
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: to one six right right downtown. Uh. Massive, Like it's
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: like a four hundred foot screen I think, or something
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: a main screen, and then they have other a bunch
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: of other TVs. Drinks aren't bad. Uh So I went
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: down there with the boys a little earlier, you know, but.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: It was it.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I've I've done.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I've a little out of my comfort zone on the
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: you know, on the games this year, on the away
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: games are kind of getting out and about a little
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: bit more than I usually do. If I'm not at
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: the game, I like being in in the living room.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: You've been more than you've ever been since I've known.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: You, and that and that also results in, you know,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: some tough mondays.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: So I think I'm gonna dial that back a little
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: New Year's resolution for the rest of the season to
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: kind of chill with that, because obviously it's not cheap either.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Right downtown, you know, you're there for you're there for
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: the game, you're not really thinking about it, and then
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: the tab comes, you know. So I had a good time.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: I recommend it. It's a good place to watch the game.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: It was a decent crowd. I will say though, that
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: when a couple of weeks ago when we went to
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Mister Goodbar, it was way more popping.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: It was way more lit there. I would go there,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: I would I would go there again. That was a
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: good time. But yeah, yeah, but no no qualms. Southern Tier.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: We left at halftime, came.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Back now where it's Southern Tier.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Right right downtown connected to the Sabers Arena.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: It used to be call.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah thats used to own Yeah, yes, yes, yes, okay,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: so they refer to.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: It's a really cool place. But it just it, don't
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: it doesn't get love.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: You know a little bit before Sabers games, people have
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: a few and then they walk over to the game
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Bills games. It was decent, but it's not like a
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: you would think, you know, a big time like Saturday
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: or something, it's popping in there, and it's really not.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: It's kind of dead in there at all times unless
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: a Bill, Bills or Savers are playing.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: So you had about seats or anything like that. You
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: had a place to sit, you didn't have to.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, it wasn't It wasn't crazy.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: So not bad.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: You know, chill got bad here. Finish it out and
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: you know, watch watch the Tough One.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched the Tough One. Well, we'll see how
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: it goes this weekend as we begin to wrap up tonight.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, you know, I I I really
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: enjoy it. You know, like I said, I enjoy Nicol
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: City Crew. We try to keep it real here. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: try not to be hyperbolic, which is why my co
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: host comes in handy on so many different occasions. So
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: that again I paid the lady at the front desk
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: to help him talk me off of the ledge DT.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: You are going to do the honors tonight of announcing
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: our winner. We talked with our creative director, Olivia Nego.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: She has picked the winner, and I'm excited because I
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: like when good things happen to good people. DT announce
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: our winner of the Josh Allen t shirt.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: All right, yeah, the Queen City Ventures Jailgate Report winner
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: this week. You know, obviously special place in my heart.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: A Day one listener. Literally when it was my.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Mom and this guy had it was my mom, your
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: mom and this guy.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Uh, Noah, rougie taking home the sick Josh Allen shirt
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen's greatest hits, And I didn't tell him.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I knew, let us know. When she did the random drawing,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Olivia let us know, and she's like, you're not gonna
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: believe it. That's what do you mean? She's like, Noah, one,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I wanted to test you right away and I couldn't.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: I couldn't.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: So uh he I know he's listening tonight, he always does,
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: so congrats, Noah. Uh you know, good good friend, lifelong
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: and you deserve it. Man, it's a sick shirt.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: You guys saw it. Nice.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, greatest hits they they they come with the fire.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: So be a nice one to pop on for game
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: day and uh and represent well good job, No thanks.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: What's up man.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: We appreciate the engagement on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. We appreciate
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: you guys participating again, as you talked about our creative
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: director Olivia Nagel handles everything and makes us look good
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: on social media, and yeah, we we really appreciate. I
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: saw a lot of people, Missus Phillips was out there reposting,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of people were hosting.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: And we really appreciate the support and the engagement with
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: all of you. That's why we do it.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia and Nichol City Crew, That's why we are
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: here is to engage with you guys. So again, shout
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: out to Queen City Vantage for being our sponsor, and
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: we appreciate it. Congratulations. Noah, you you already know I
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: got nothing but love for you know one of the OG's,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. It was my mom, your mom, Noah,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Josh Kool was like a couple and like they were
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: there from the very beginning. And uh, and we've grown,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: so we really appreciate the growth. We really appreciate you
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: all out there. Enjoy the game. This weekend. Uh, maybe
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: we get a bounce back. I'm I'm I'm expecting a
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: close game.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I'm expecting close game, whether it be fireworks or a
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: defensive struggle. We know that Dan Cambll's gonna have his
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: team ready to play. I expect Sean McDermott to uh
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: to kind of bounce back and have everybody all t's crossed,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: all eyes downed. This week, everybody should be hyper focused
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: because this is probably not probably this is the biggest
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: game of the regular season.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Less that's left.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Agree us back, Let's go. This is the NFL. You
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: want to be at the highest by the stool. You
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: want to be a super Bowl contender, you want to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: be talked about. You want Josh Allen to be the MVP.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: These are the games everyone's watching. These are the games
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: you gotta win. It was the Chiefs a few weeks ago.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: The forty nine ers obviously got the Rams. Was the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: game of the week, so everyone saw that it was.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: It was the national game. Uh, this is this is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: talking about you gotta do and I'm pumped. Why why
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: wouldn't you want to play these dudes? Why wouldn't you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: want to you know, have a litmus test in this regard,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: So let's go. Let's have a day bounce back game.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: If anything, as well, it's making us very intrigued in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: rooting efforts.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: I'm cheering for the Browns big time to get right right,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: like another loss and a Chiefs win basically then it's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: mathematically eliminated on that one, and then you got to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: worry about Pittsburgh kind of hanging around, right, So I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: don't want that slide.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Screw that.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Let's let's cheer for the teams we got to cheer for,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: and most importantly, let's get a bounce back win.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Go to eleven to three.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, I love it. I love it. I love it.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I thank you for your time togein tonight, DT.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Love you as always, brother, enjoyed the game out there,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the game Sunday, spread love not hate.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: These were my bills thoughts set out loud.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: You know what a gold bills, DT, nobody panic gold bills.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.