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My Favorite Conspiracy: Hollow Moon (w/Travis Clark) · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: dary podcast, with your hosts Adam Todd Brown and Olivia Hidar.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me as co host this week. Ooh,
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  Speaker 2: my favorite cost of all. No co host, but I
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  Speaker 2: got a guest Travis Clark, who's also my co host
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  Speaker 2: on You Don't Even Like This Band, which is a
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  Speaker 2: podcast you should be listening to on the un Pops
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  Speaker 2: podcast network, So I kind of have a co host, Travis.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going.
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  Speaker 3: It's going fantastic. I'm so excited to be hearing conspiratorial
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  Speaker 3: with you. That's a hard word to say.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hard word to say, which probably is a
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  Speaker 2: conspiracy in and of itself. The conspiritors don't want us
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  Speaker 2: to be able to say conspiratorial.
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  Speaker 3: No, they don't, and I really do think English was
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  Speaker 3: created by someone trying to control us. Oh. Absolutely one percent.
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  Speaker 2: We are doing another my favorite conspiracy episode because here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. We've done one of these so far with
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  Speaker 2: Kim Krawl and what I like about these is I
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  Speaker 2: don't have to do the research. It's normally me bringing
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of well thought out and heavily researched
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  Speaker 2: information to my co host or guest and not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: trying to sell them on the idea that it might
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  Speaker 2: be real. But in some cases, and here, we're reversing the.
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  Speaker 3: Roles, which is interesting because to pull the curtain back
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  Speaker 3: a little bit for listeners. Adam does that on all
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  Speaker 3: the shows, Like Adam is a research machine. The amount
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  Speaker 3: of times that we've done a show about a band,
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  Speaker 3: and like, if I ever sound like I know what
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  Speaker 3: the hell we're talking about, and it's not Queens of
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  Speaker 3: the Stone Age, it's notes that Adam put together. That's
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  Speaker 3: you're a wonder. So I hope I can bring the
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  Speaker 3: same level to this that you normally do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is weird for me. I kept going back
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  Speaker 2: this morning before I got here and being like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I got a little time to look in to Hollow Moon.
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  Speaker 2: And that makes it a little different from the Paul
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  Speaker 2: is Dead theory that me and Kim Crawl covered. Because
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  Speaker 2: I'm a huge Beatles fan and.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's heard I mean, it doesn't matter where you are
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  Speaker 3: in life, you've heard that theory that Paul is dead, Right, right,
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  Speaker 3: whereas Hollow Moon it may not have crossed your path yet.
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  Speaker 2: Hollow Moon, for one thing, would be such a good
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  Speaker 2: band name, right, that would be an amazing band name. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard much about this. I haven't looked into
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  Speaker 2: it much. We have a few of these episodes in
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  Speaker 2: a row, and one of the reasons we're doing them
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of utilitarian. I'm just trying to get ahead
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  Speaker 2: on recordings so I can take a week off off.
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  Speaker 2: And my version of taking a week off is making
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  Speaker 2: sure all the baby birds are fed while I'm at
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  Speaker 2: home sleeping. So I'm recording way way away in advance,
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  Speaker 2: and that's easier if I don't have to do no research.
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  Speaker 3: So sure. So this is coming out in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 3: just in time for the Hollow Moon to land on
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  Speaker 3: Earth because it is a spaceship. So I'm just going
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  Speaker 3: to dive into a little bit of I guess how
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  Speaker 3: one becomes aware of the Hollow Moon. Yes, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because if you're somebody who loves conspiracies about the moon,
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  Speaker 3: aka myself, it's very easy you go into, oh we
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  Speaker 3: didn't land on the Moon, and that's the training wheels
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  Speaker 3: of moon conspiracies. Right, and then you kind of start
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  Speaker 3: going what's deeper, what's inside this jobbreaker? How many layers
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  Speaker 3: does this thing have? And then you get into the
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  Speaker 3: people who say the moon isn't even real, It's not
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  Speaker 3: even there, it's a hologram, it's existed through all of history,
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  Speaker 3: it's fake, right, And that just doesn't make sense. And
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  Speaker 3: then you get into the moon is there, but it's
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  Speaker 3: hollow and it's either a spaceship or there's aliens inside
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  Speaker 3: of it watching us.
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  Speaker 2: That is an intriguing idea. What little I did look
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  Speaker 2: into this one thing? I found The origins of the
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  Speaker 2: moon are highly sketchy, like not very not sketchy, as
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  Speaker 2: in they involved like organized crime or something, but they might.
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  Speaker 2: We're not quite sure have the moon formed or whyatt's there.
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  Speaker 3: The current theory is the whack or double whack theory,
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  Speaker 3: which is that a Mars shaped object hit the Earth
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  Speaker 3: and expelled out all of this material and that became
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  Speaker 3: the moon, and then the sciences and the physicshit until
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  Speaker 3: you work out of that so they're like, well, maybe
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  Speaker 3: that object hit us twice and that caused the moon.
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  Speaker 3: So right off the bat, is the moon reel clearly not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think we've already established the moon isn't actually
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  Speaker 2: the moon, so that's a good starting point.
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  Speaker 3: It's good starting point. So the idea of a hollow moon,
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  Speaker 3: as far as I can tell, and look, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a hollow moon historian, but I've read up on it
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  Speaker 3: some it started. I think the first mention of this
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  Speaker 3: in pop culture ish is an in an HG. Wells
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  Speaker 3: book from nineteen oh one called The First Men in
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  Speaker 3: the Moon, and I have not read it, but from
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  Speaker 3: context clues I can guess it is about a group
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  Speaker 3: of men who go inside the moon and the moon
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  Speaker 3: would be hollow. That would be my guess, right, But
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: Think there are some sorts of references to it pre HG. Wells,
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  Speaker 2: but not in pop culture the way you're talking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe some dude was like, oddly that's made out
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  Speaker 3: of hollo geeze. I was about it as far as
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  Speaker 3: it went.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was floated in an old timey
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  Speaker 2: get burned at the cross for saying the wrong thing
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  Speaker 2: science kind of way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, the Bible doesn't talk much about the
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  Speaker 3: moon from what I know, so I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you have to be like super Christian to believe in
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  Speaker 3: the moon, Like are.
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  Speaker 4: You are you?
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  Speaker 2: I mean if I believe in the moon or if
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  Speaker 2: I'm yeah, do you believe in the moon?
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  Speaker 3: Are you? Yeah? Do you think the moon is our savior?
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  Speaker 3: Or like, how do you?
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in the moon. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think the Moon died for our sins? It's
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  Speaker 2: where we go when we die.
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  Speaker 3: God, that would be so cool. My dad's in there.
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  Speaker 3: That's why it's hollow. It's heaven. Yeah, Now it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: So sci fi writers run with this idea off and
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  Speaker 3: on for some amount of time. Some people write books
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  Speaker 3: and whatever, but it's all that like we haven't really
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  Speaker 3: been to space sci fi that like, once we go
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  Speaker 3: to space, none of it really makes sense. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it's hollow and in the inside there's
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  Speaker 3: an atmosphere, Like it's not possible. What are you talking about? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's when we land on the Moon. And I believe
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  Speaker 3: that happened in the Apollo missions, that we as humans
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  Speaker 3: do what humans do best, which is, hey, we've traveled
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  Speaker 3: really far and we're checking out this thing that's totally
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  Speaker 3: new to us. Let's fuck it up. So while they're
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  Speaker 3: leaving the Apollo twelve mission. They're like, let's crash some
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  Speaker 3: shit into the moon. So they crash some shit into
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  Speaker 3: the moon and it causes a quake. Right, and here's
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  Speaker 3: the fun part. Do you know what quakes on the
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  Speaker 3: moon are called moonquakes? That's correct, which would also be
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  Speaker 3: a great band name. Yes. Absolutely, So scientists were surprised
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  Speaker 3: that the Moon did not act like the Earth. It
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  Speaker 3: did not quake the way that they wanted the Earth
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  Speaker 3: to quake. It quaked much more long term and not violently.
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  Speaker 3: But one scientist was saying, the moon rang like a bell,
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  Speaker 3: so that when they crashed this thing into it, as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to the earthquake taking ten minutes to end, it
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  Speaker 3: took like an hour. So this scientist was like, the
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  Speaker 3: moon rang like a bell. People saw this and then
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  Speaker 3: ran with that idea that if it rang like a bell,
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  Speaker 3: then it must be because it's hollow. Sure, because it
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  Speaker 3: couldn't be that the Moon is just made up of
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  Speaker 3: different material and has a different composition, in a different
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  Speaker 3: weight and all of that. No, it must mean that
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  Speaker 3: the moon is hollow. So people start running with this
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  Speaker 3: idea that the moon is actually well, it's one of
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  Speaker 3: two things. It is either an entirely intelligently made observation
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  Speaker 3: station where aliens are in there keeping an eye on us,
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  Speaker 3: or intelligent aliens took a moon structure, hollowed it out,
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  Speaker 3: and turned it into a spaceship, and that spaceship flew
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  Speaker 3: here about fifty thousand years ago, perfectly orbited our planet
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  Speaker 3: in a way that doesn't make sense. Like you were
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  Speaker 3: saying earlier, it doesn't make sense how this could possibly exist.
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  Speaker 3: We can't fully explain it. The crew of that moon
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  Speaker 3: spaceship landed on this planet, and that's what humans are.
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  Speaker 3: We are descendants of the moon spaceship.
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  Speaker 2: This is one of those theories that seems kind of
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  Speaker 2: harmless and taken to its scariest conclusion, will just end
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  Speaker 2: in genocide someday. Because it reminds me of a documentary
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  Speaker 2: me and Olivia just covered called In Plane Sight. It's
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  Speaker 2: called In Plane Sight UFOs and the intelligence community, and
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  Speaker 2: it starts off really basic, where they're just talking about
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  Speaker 2: Roswell and like UFO sidings, and as it goes on,
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  Speaker 2: they start getting into weirder and weirder shit, to the
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  Speaker 2: point where one guy suggests that we should look into
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  Speaker 2: reparations for victims of alien abductions what And then a
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  Speaker 2: guy who up to this point he's a CIA analyst,
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  Speaker 2: so I trust him with my life obviously, but up
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  Speaker 2: to this point in the documentary he's been like seeming
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  Speaker 2: like kind of the voice of reason and the one
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  Speaker 2: who's not going out on wild ledges and pushing crazy ideas.
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  Speaker 2: He comes in at the end and mentions that, oh well,
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  Speaker 2: at one point, this race of aliens basically mated with
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  Speaker 2: beings on Earth and that's how humans happened. And every
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  Speaker 2: human has some alien DNA, but also some humans have
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  Speaker 2: extra AI and they're like special humans. And that's the
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing where if we start getting really fascist
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  Speaker 2: in this country and really turn into a Nazi kind
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  Speaker 2: of place, that's the kind of stuff that's gonna get
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  Speaker 2: people executed over DNA tests.
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  Speaker 3: So in a strange turn of events, you're not foreign
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  Speaker 3: enough and that's why we have to get rid of you.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think it would probably be those augmented special
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  Speaker 2: people who would get the axe.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so the more alien people would die.
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  Speaker 2: And it's one of those things where we're so conditioned
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  Speaker 2: to just hear, oh, yeah, well DNA that's infallible. No
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  Speaker 2: one would question it like I'm talking about a dystopia
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  Speaker 2: way way, way in the future. But I brought this
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  Speaker 2: up on the Olivia documentary. Also, there's this rumor that
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  Speaker 2: on his death bread Death Bread.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I love Death Bread. That's so good, such a
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  Speaker 3: good band. I mean, you can only eat one's life,
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  Speaker 3: but it's really good.
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  Speaker 2: On his deathbed, it is alleged that Werner von Braun
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  Speaker 2: basically said, look, in terms of fascism, it started with
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  Speaker 2: what it started with, you know, Jews, and then it
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  Speaker 2: moved on to communism. That's what we spent a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the eighties fighting in seventies eighties communism. Then it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be terrorism, and then the way there we're
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  Speaker 2: really going to institute fascism in this world is aliens.
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  Speaker 2: So if he actually said it, what he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: getting at is at some point the government's going to
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  Speaker 2: basically pretend there is this alien threat among us and
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  Speaker 2: that we need to eliminate that threat.
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  Speaker 3: Aren't we doing that? Now? With all this UAP stuff,
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  Speaker 3: with them being like, well, we'll finally admit to you
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  Speaker 3: there's some shit we can't explain. There's some weird crafts
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  Speaker 3: that go around, and.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It is kind of like edging toward
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  Speaker 2: that a little bit more every day. It seems like
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  Speaker 2: every year since Trump took office, at least there's been
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  Speaker 2: some explosive news story early every year about UFOs. But
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  Speaker 2: we're not in the roswell days anymore, so no one's
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  Speaker 2: gonna say, what if there's fucking aliens inside that thing? Right,
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  Speaker 2: but everyone's got to be thinking it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Bob Lazar is definitely having a moment. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's been around forever, been the guy who worked at
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  Speaker 3: Area fifty one, and like suddenly he's like on Rogan's
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  Speaker 3: podcast again and talking about like how gravity wells work
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  Speaker 3: and all of this shit. Yeah, but to get us
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  Speaker 3: back towards the hollow moons and to get us towards
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  Speaker 3: some good old fashioned well, you can't believe what this
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  Speaker 3: one person said. The real sort of celebrity of the
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  Speaker 3: Hollow Moon is a guy named David Ike.
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  Speaker 2: Travis, tell me your thoughts on David Ike.
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  Speaker 3: Are you familiar with David Ike? I would imagine he's
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  Speaker 3: crossed your path before. We've done a couple episodes about
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  Speaker 3: David Ike. I think anybody whose resume goes from soccer
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  Speaker 3: player to TV presenter to son of God should be trusted.
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  Speaker 3: That's clearly somebody who is leveled up each step of
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  Speaker 3: the way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's the son of God. Yes, argue with
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  Speaker 2: the results.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, sure the world didn't end when he said,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe that's because he decided he didn't want it
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  Speaker 3: to end because he is the son of God, right right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what is your opinion of David Ike?
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  Speaker 2: David Ike to me, if anything, the fact that he
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  Speaker 2: pushes this makes me feel even more than it is
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  Speaker 2: just going to end in the Jews or something, because
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  Speaker 2: most of his theories kinda do like he talks about
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  Speaker 2: reptilian bloodlines and yes, hybrid bloodlines, but if you dig
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  Speaker 2: into it enough and peel the layers of that onion away,
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  Speaker 2: it just turns into the Jews. I also think he's
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  Speaker 2: genuinely mentally ill.
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  Speaker 3: He seems charming, Like I've watched a couple of like
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  Speaker 3: interviews with him. He's definitely promoting David Ike as much
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  Speaker 3: as he can whenever he can. Oh yeah, but he
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  Speaker 3: also seems like the kind of mentally ill that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: seem like will attack you. You can have a conversation with
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  Speaker 3: him and it'll go weird, but it's not going to
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  Speaker 3: be like, oh and then he sliced me with a
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  Speaker 3: box cutter. He's just gonna try and sell you a
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  Speaker 3: book and tell you a crazy story about Satanists, which
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  Speaker 3: can be fun. It can be a nice afternoon if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to the Isle of Man and you want
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  Speaker 3: to or the Isle of Wight, I think is where
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  Speaker 3: he lives. So here's David Ike's take on the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: I guess his entire transformation in from guy who was
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  Speaker 3: just on television to Son of God was he went
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  Speaker 3: to a bookstore and a voyage told him to go
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  Speaker 3: look at the books in the back of the bookstore. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so that to me is a pretty light push because
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  Speaker 3: it's not giving him information. It's making him go read
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  Speaker 3: other information, which is very strange.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been funny if he came away with
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  Speaker 2: that from that with like a Garfield book or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, losses it out the window on the
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  Speaker 2: way home anyway, backward football.
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  Speaker 3: Or he just wrote like, you know, one hundred self
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  Speaker 3: published books about how great Lasagne is. Yeah, like that
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  Speaker 3: would be amazing. What happened to Lyman and he's a
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  Speaker 3: like hatred of cute kittens named normal. Yeah. Anyway, he
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  Speaker 3: believes that the moon is hollow and filled with reptilian entities,
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  Speaker 3: reptilian aliens, the same ones who come here and take
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  Speaker 3: over all of our political parties. So you know, the
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  Speaker 3: queen was a reptilian alien. All the bushes are reptilian aliens.
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  Speaker 3: Obama Clinton, all of those are shape shifting reptilian aliens,
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  Speaker 3: of course, and there is a hierarchy of people that
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  Speaker 3: they overtake. But then there's a Satanic hierarchy that supersedes
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  Speaker 3: that because on top of being shape shifting reptilian aliens,
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  Speaker 3: they are also Satanists and they're also pedophiles, so they
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  Speaker 3: have to sacrifice humans and cause suffering to children. Again,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't really connect why that has to happen. I'm
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  Speaker 3: assuming that helps the moon stay hollow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got heavy QAnon vibes, that's for sure, and
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  Speaker 2: a chrome.
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  Speaker 3: Like So he believes that the moon is filled with
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  Speaker 3: these aliens and they are messing with our perception of
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  Speaker 3: reality by broadcasting a disruptive signal that infiltrates our reality,
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  Speaker 3: and that we live in the moon matrix, which is
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  Speaker 3: like the matrix, but it comes from the moon Moon. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so those reptilians are here to enslave us, and in
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  Speaker 3: order to enslave us, they have to drink our blood,
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  Speaker 3: torture our children, and destroy our normal perception of reality
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  Speaker 3: from inside a hollow moon.
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  Speaker 2: My problem with a theory like this is always, here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing, David Ike. If it's true, what do you
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  Speaker 2: want me to do about it? Like that sounds like
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  Speaker 2: such an unstoppable system that's been put in place, Like
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  Speaker 2: this isn't the movies. If that's really what's happening, then, Bud,
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  Speaker 2: that's just our existence.
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  Speaker 3: But also too, how does he know that? Like how
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  Speaker 3: is he the only one who has broken the moon
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  Speaker 3: matrix and can share this information?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like with a ghost hunting show. Like if
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  Speaker 2: you're so into David Ike that you believe all these
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  Speaker 2: things he says, you just got to take it on
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  Speaker 2: faith that he's not lying to you from money, because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of his theories come from Like he's like
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  Speaker 2: Carlos Santana. Carlos Santana, if you look into it, has
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  Speaker 2: this demon called Metatron that wait, what informs his music?
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  Speaker 2: But not a bad demon?
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  Speaker 3: Travis Relax I thought you made was like Carlos Santana
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  Speaker 3: and that like his biggest hit is somebody else's song.
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  Speaker 2: No, that he makes women's shoes is what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh oh oh, But.
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  Speaker 2: No, Carlos Santana believes he has this spirit or demon
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  Speaker 2: that guides his creative process, and that's how you land
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  Speaker 2: on Smooth co written by Rob Thomas. David Ike is
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. He's like, Yeah, they tell me I'm
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: a son of God. Voices tell me. And it's like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you're herschel Walker. Dude, You're crazy.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: How is he not an elected official at this point?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's who we elect now. It's just
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: people with who tell them that voices tell us to
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: do things.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I could see David Ike running
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: for office someday.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Here's the crazy thing. If you go and you watch
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: some David Ike videos right then. I watched a few
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: before we got together. A lot of them are about
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: ten years old. Like, he went from being laughably insane
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: when he went on television and said he was the
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: son of God and the world was going to end.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Then the world didn't end, and then he built an
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: empire of like selling his self published books and saying
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that the moon is hollow, filled with reptilian aliens, and
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: people paid all that money, and then people kind of
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: stopped talking about him. But if you read the comments,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: he has built a cult of personality. They're like, man,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: we got to protect David at all costs. You know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: when I first saw this video, I thought it was crazy.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: That was ten years ago. No, it's more true than ever.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's more true than ever that the moon
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: is hollow and there's reptilian aliens in it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: That actually speaks to a thing I was about to
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: say in that David Ike and I would argue Alex
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Jones to some extent. Also, both at first seemed into
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: harmless and a little wacky, Like it was Alex Jones
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: screaming about the water making the frogs gay things like that,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and David Ike all this reptilian stuff and like lizard
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: people and they have to abuse our children, and that
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: all seemed kind of harmless and funny. So they were
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: able to build these huge followings without really seeming too alarming.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: And then we hit the Trump era and the QAnon
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: era and now people talking about, oh, well, the elites
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: have to torture our children to stay on top, which
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: is the basic elevator pitch for the QAnon theory.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Pizzagate and all of that shit, like it's
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: all rooted in hollow moon idea, that there's these infiltrated
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: aliens that live in our whatever you want to call,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: the elites, the Illuminati, the lizard Illuminati, the Babylon Brotherhood,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: all of that shit. It's all it's the same cookie dough.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: We're just sometimes to putt chocolate chips in it. Sometimes
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: we're putting peanut butter in it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all fun in games until you know, Nancy
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Pelosi's being lynched on the White House lawn over it someday.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: True. But if someone is a lizard person, it is
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. If this is true,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: obviously we need to abolish the lizard people. Yeah, of course,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: unless they're listening, in which case the science is out.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: And if they're listening, abolish is our earthword for respect.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they definitely don't know.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: They don't know they live inside the hollowed out moon.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: They won't even figured out how to live your full time.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: They're still rending a goddamn moon condo. What the fuck
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: do they know?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I do like the idea we bring this up all
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the time in regards to Roswell and how the story
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: is always well, once we found this technology, we obviously
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: wanted it as a government. And the thing about all
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the technology that you hear discussed around Roswell and all
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: those other alien sightings, it all crashed, and it all
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: crashed in the Earth atmosphere, Like, why would we want
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: technology that can't stay afloat in our own skies? Because
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we have technology that can. And I like to think,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: if there are people living in the moon, if there
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: are lizard people living in the Moon, and there's us
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: down here, the only problem is we cannot get through
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the Earth's atmosphere to each other properly.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: They're like, all it is, can we solve this problem?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: That damn air bubble. If we could just pop that
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: little air bubble, we could go there, We could run
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: that whole place.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: They're like, this thing that we crashed on your planet,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: if you could get that to where we were before
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: we crashed, Oh the things you could do. But our
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: own atmosphere is just such a problem for alien technology.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: It's got to be something like.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: That then that would explain why we're trying to destroy
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: the atmosphere with all of the pollution. We're just trying
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to make it easier to get back to the hollow moon.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: All scenario just wants us to know the truth about aliens.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that makes the most sense to me.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I mean it's very clear to me what I became
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: fascinated with. So I'm a sci fi fan, Like, I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: like sci fi stories, I like all that shit. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: like stuff about the moon, particularly because the moon's like
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the thing we can see, you know, we decided we
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: had to go land on it, and then when nobody
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: else was that interested, we kind of fucked off and
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: left it alone. But what I become fascinated by is like,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the more I've dug into this, I didn't know about
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: the Satanic worshiping part of this. I just thought like
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: the idea of like the moon being hollow and being
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: a spaceship was interesting. And then the more you dig
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: into it and it's like, well it's filled with Satan
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: worshiping lizard people, you go, well, I mean, now you're
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: just combining as many things as you can to try
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: and make like a Greatest Hits album. Of crazy.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's also weird that advanced beings would be that concerned
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: about a strictly kind of like Western religion figure.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It does speak a lot to like Satan's pull though.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: He can bring in, you know, an audience from way
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: out of town, and I think that's amazing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: He can move a crowd, that's for damn sure. Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: One of the things I saw mentioned in regards to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: this theory and when it started really getting popular was
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that it happened around the same time the Soviet Union
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: started pushing ancient alien theory.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the seventies.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, as a means to like undermine the West's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: faith in religion basically because the Soviet Union was essentially
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: they were atheists. And like, I mean, I can see that,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I could see this all just being propaganda.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: That disinformation that's been like passed around and now it's like, I.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Mean, for one thing, it's either that or there's fucking
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: people living in our spaceship Moon.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: But what's crazy about that is in the world where
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: it is just disinformation. It was a movie this year.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: There was a movie called Moonfall that came out this year.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Holly Berry Patrick Wilson was a big big budget movie.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I watched it. It's about the moon being hollow. I
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: forgot I watched it. It's not that memorable. I ended
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: up reading an article about like I was reading an
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: article about Moonfall, and I was like, oh shit, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: wish I knew about this before the podcast. I should
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: watch this movie. And then I was like reading more
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: about it and seeing images, I'm like, oh, I watched
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: this movie. I saw this movie when it came out.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: It just wasn't that memorable. But what started as a
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: seed of disinformation, if if we're going to believe that,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: if we're not gonna believe the disinformation that the lizard
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: people are putting out, that the disinformation that the Russians
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: put out is from them, it's now moved its way
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: into being a movie that, you know, it was probably
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollar movie. You know, it's now commonplace
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: tropes in sci fi to talk about a hollow moon.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: There was even a contestant on the Wheel of Fortune
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: who talked about the hollow moon.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh is it anyone particular, anyone specific? I remember her name.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Her name was Brandy, and I think she's my wife.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I checked my notes, and you are married
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to a brandy.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: A brandy, yes, who is a Wheel of Fortune champion?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Who? When Pat Sajack asked her about her spouse, she said,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: my husband, Travis. I love him to the hollow moon
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: and back. And then the Wheel of Fortune message board
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: lit up with a I can't believe she said the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: moon is hollow and just a lot of discussion about that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Did Pat Sajack say anything?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Pat Sajak, I think is again, if you want to
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: talk about possible lizard people, I think he is one,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: or at the very least, a robot. I think he
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: is just programmed. He is on autopilot, whatever version he is.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He and Vana White both.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Fanna at least there's a life behind her eyes and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: like what she talks about makes sense, like Pat is
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: often disjointed from whatever is happening. Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I remember reading an interview with Vanna White and she
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: was talking about how she and Pat Sajack just fucking
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: get along great like and always have. And they were like,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: why do you think that is? And she was like,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: we see each other like fucking three months a year,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Like we record a bunch of episode and then we
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: come back and we film, a really lighthearted game show,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: and then we go our separate ways. What is there
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: not to get along about?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I keep forgetting that that's the way that show works.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Like that show is not in production three sixty five
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: a year. That show is in production, you know, April
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: to June, and then everybody fucks off to Hawaii for
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the rest of the year.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You know. Speaking of the message boards lighting up, when
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: your wife mentioned the hollow moon on Wheel of Fortune,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I wonder if the same thing happened a couple months
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: ago when Jeopardy had a Chariots of the Gods question.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, which I don't know. I love that documentary.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the original ancient alien Ancient Alien, Yeah, yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: yeah documentary, And they actually had a question about it
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: on Jeopardy. I was like, we're really mainstreaming this idea
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that white people taught savage indigenous cultures everything they need
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to know via time travel.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: That is the crazy thing. Someone explained that once I
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: was some documentary I was watching. It was like the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: whole idea of ancient aliens is rooted in like this
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: white supremacy point of view is there's no way these
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: brown people could have built this on their own. It
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: must have been somebody came and taught them how to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: do it. The Greeks, yes, they made that. The Romans, yes,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: they made that. The Egyptians made pyramids, h not without
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: somebody coming down and showing them how to do it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And what's really concerning about that is when the Nazis
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: took over for real in Germany, they set up this
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: group whose main goal or main purpose was to go
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: back and research history and decide what parts of history
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: were actually influenced by Aryan people. But history just doesn't
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: acknowledge it. And what they came back with was.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: All of history has Aryan influence. And the only way
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that idea works is if time travel has been at
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: some point.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: So are you saying we took ancient arian and made
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: it ancient alien, Like we just kind of like changed
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: it a little bit to make it sound a little
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: more palatable.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Basically, I don't know how all of those ideas
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: aren't just going to coalesce in horrific violence someday. Like
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it all seems so harmless and like stupid, but it does.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: But back to the lizard people in the Hollow Moon thing, Like,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to your point, yeah, Like I said, when I first
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: was kind of familiar with this theory, the idea that
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the moon is hollow and is a spaceship, Like I
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: like that. It's like, oh, maybe it's an observatory, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: it's like going to the La Zoo, except you get
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: to look at all of Earth, like you get to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: come to the moon and look at the humans, right,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and then do you find guys like David Iiker like, no,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: it's filled with these satanic pedophiles, so we have to
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: destroy them. Now it's no longer funny spaceship. Now it's
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: if somebody's in power, murder them because they're a pedophile.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: And you're like what what?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean David Ike's version of it kind of
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: calls for like violently overthrowing almost all the governments of
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the world, which, uh, I don't know if I trust
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the people pushing this theory to come out the other
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: end of that with a better world. You know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Well, also too, if the Iikontes that's what I call them,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: uh are astronauts astronauts, Okay, I could see both work.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Both work. I think they're yeah, in the world where
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: those are the people we're letting now write our history
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: books and whatever. We're not writing what happened. We're writing
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: these like bastardized sci fi movies into conspiracy theories. You know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: The Moon Projects a Moon Matrix, And he even says
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: in the documentary, well, I took the idea from the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: movie the Matrix, And it's like, you didn't even come
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: up with an original idea, you just put it in
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: the moon. Yeah.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know how, especially among his followers, he doesn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: get more pushback on things like that, But a lot
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: of people who seek out content like that, I guess
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: like they go into it wanting to believe, and a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: lot of conspiracy programs presenters personalities they really exploit that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: They really do this kind of well here's my belief
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and I will leave it up to you to decide.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: And what they always leave out is the evidence that
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: refutes those beliefs, which is very irresponsible and dangerous because
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: when you're talking to people who already want to believe,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: all you got to tell them is that you believe,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and it turns into this really vicious kind of confirmation
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: bias cycle. Yeah.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I get the impression from David Ike that, like you said,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: there's something a little off up there. But I also
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: think there is just this idea of wanting to be
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: accepted by a throng of people. I'll tell you whatever
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: you want to hear. I'll tell you that the grass
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: is really underground termites trying to destroy the earth from
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the inside. If that's what you want to here, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: you'll buy a book and you'll come see me perform.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And you got to wonder if some of that is
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: out of necessity. I guess the example I'll use is
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: there have been a few comedians over the past few
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: years who have said like some right wing type shit
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: and got canceled over it, And the response is always
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to veer harder to the right and try to get
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: accepted by that crowd.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And what happened with David Iike is, like you mentioned,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: he was a soccer player, then he was a soccer
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: presenter for the BBC, and then one day he just
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: shows up and is like, look the bookstore thing, I'm
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the son of God. Let's talk about time travel and reptilians.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And he got laughed out of the entertainment industry basically,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: so now his really only course of action is to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: just embrace whatever conspiracy theory resonates with his crowd.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Jesse the body Ventura thing. Like when
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Jesse stopped being a politician, he started talking about conspiracy
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: theories and then he just went off the reservation. He
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: just went crazy. I told you could set appreciers put together.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Are you working for Vince McMahon.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: That's a good Jesse.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you. We covered every episode of his conspiracy TV.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Show in the Sane. That show was crazy.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Go back and rewatch it. It's crazier than you remember.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's just him showing up at secure government facilities being.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Like, why can't I come in?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I'm a former government Like, no one cares that you're
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a former governor. What if I just barge past you?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: In the running man? Yeah, Jesus Christ, I think there
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: is that thing of yeah, once you go full looney Tunes,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: you can't go back to the middle. You can only
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: go further and further to the fringe. And David Iike
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: is a great example of like on paper, this guy
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: who sold twenty million books and sells out theaters. When
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: he does these things, you would think like, well, damn you,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: he's figured it out. Like he's living the high life
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: and you watch his documentary, it's like you go to
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: his place and you're like, I think that's an apartment.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And not that there's anything wrong with living an apartment,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: but like a best selling author should be kind of
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: doing better, you know than getting by, you would think,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: And I think he just gets by.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to wonder if maybe he's doing all
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that work but just on like an MI six salary
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: or something like maybe he's just a government plant.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Or maybe he's like a really bad version of Mister
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Beast where it's like all the money off of the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: one project goes into the next project. So it's like,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: you know, he's just he's never really net positive, He's
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: always just spending all the money on the next thing.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: A Mister Beast conspiracy, let's get into that. I don't know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: is there.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: One there's gotta be right.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I just don't wear seces that don't seem appropriate for
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: an entertainer of his fire.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I just I question anybody who claims to be that altruistic.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like, really, I don't think so who you just
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: want to go around and give people cars and houses
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and do a real live version of the squid game,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Like I think you want to do the real live
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: version of the squid Game, I think is what you want.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, David Ike probably too would like to do.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: David Ike man. I mean, he's had children, so he's
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: made more of him. So yeah, Nope, that's disturbing follow
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: in his lizard footed steps. I can't figure out though,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Like when I told you I wanted to talk about
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: the Hollow Moon, I wanted to talk about it from
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: the point of view of like, can you believe that
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: people believe this? Right? Whereas if I'm David Ike, it
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: is can you believe people don't know about this? This
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: is the problem. You need to open your eyes. Wake up, sheeple.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Here's what you're not seeing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And what always rattles my cage a little bit about
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: people like David Ike. They spend so much time talking
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: about how how powerful these cabals are and how much
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: influence they have and how dangerous they are, and it's like, well,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: why don't they fucking kill you then? And I know
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the pushback is going to be, well that would be
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: too obvious. If David Ike got murdered, everyone would know
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the government did it. Not a single fucking person who
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't believe David Ike now would be compelled to believe
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: he was murdered by the government. They would just think
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: David Ike was murdered. Or if they're so powerful and
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: if all the things you hear about these shadow governments
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: that control the world, the litany of ways you hear
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that they're able to kill people, they wouldn't have to
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: shoot David Ike in the chest. According to all of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the lore I've heard. They could just like give him
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: stage four cancer or something and just he would just die.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Like well, going back to like the Russian stuff, think
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: of all the ways Russians like just poison people. You know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: they just go up with like a sharpened umbrella, poke
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: somebody in the leg. They put a little beat in
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: their leg. That beat is filled with like plutonium or
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: some shit. That person gets bone cancer and dies. Yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: and it's real simple.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if that were to happen to David Ike, I mean,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: if you ask the UK government, they could just as
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: easily be like, I don't know, man, lizard, people probably
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: killed him, you know, he was exposing all their secrets.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: What I think too, Like you and I would be
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: aware that David Ike passed away. Most other people would
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: be like who.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I feel like it would be big news in England
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: because he's is he a huge English person? I mean
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: he's huge, I think in the way Alex Jones is
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: huge here, Like I think he's probably their pre eminent
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist. Like if Alex Jones died, we'd know about it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I got to do one of these episodes sometime. But
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: about the Bill Hicks theory.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: That Bill Hicks became Alex Jones.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is weird. It's weird timing. Bill
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Hicks died and then a year later, Alex Jones pops
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: up on the same production company, kind of out of nowhere,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: looking a lot like Bill Hicks, sounding a lot like
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Bill Hicks, but pushing a almost similar message to what
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Bill Hicks pushed sometimes, but just in a kind of
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: different package.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know's there's so much rage to Alex Jones.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I guess it was a rage to Bill Hicks too. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: that I think about it.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: But that's for another day. But I am writing that down.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I need to flip the tables and try to sell
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: someone on Bill Hicks someday. Not as a comedian. He
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: was a great comedian.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: He was a great comedian. But if he's Alex Jones,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: real middle of the road conspiracy theorist, you know.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex Jones. My theory on him has always been,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and this would feed into the Bill Hicks idea. My
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: theory on Alex Jones has always been that he's that
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: figure that is there to discredit information, which is QAnon
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: has kind of taken that baton and run with it now,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But for a long time there, if there was any
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, anything saying that maybe the government wouldn't want
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you to know about, as long as Alex Jones talked
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: about it, rational people would be like, Oh, well, that's
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Alex Jones shit. Obviously, that's nonsense. And I think that's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Alex Jones' role in society. I feel like this is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: just gut instinct. I don't have anything to prove this, obviously,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: but I think when the Internet started getting really huge,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the government knew they were going to have quite a
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: time trying to keep stories under wraps, especially conspiracy theory
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: type stories. So do you send out goon squads to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: kill everyone who posts anything inflammatory on the Internet? Do
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you vehemently deny everything that goes up on the Internet
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: in an official way as the government. Even if you
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: have to lie or do you just get in the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: fray yourself and put one figure out there who whenever
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a story makes those round, you can just put him
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: on it and people will be like, yeah, that was
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: on Alex Jones. Of course it's not.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: True, so then you're David Eikes, you're Alex Jones. All
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of those were beyond CIA at this point where Illuminati,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: like they're just operatives, sit there to like.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Well, we're beyond CIA, but we're still within what's called
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: the Five Eyes. The Five Eyes are five of the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: biggest you know, Anglo leaning nations. It's oh, I always
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: forget the last one, but I know the United States, UK,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Australia are all involved. I think France maybe, Well, why
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: is it eyes because they're intelligence agencies?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Oh oh oh oh, because I'm like, none of those
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: countries start with an eye.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: They fucked up and they all share intelligence information with
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: each other. You know. I said once that it was
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: probably aimed at upholding white supremacy, and someone actually left
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a comment and.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Was like, oh, I looked on their website. It doesn't
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: say anything about white supremacy. It's like, yeah, that's gonna happen.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: There's going to be a drop down that says white supremacy.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Here's how we uphold it, like, of course, not much.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Under the about us we love white supremacy. What we
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: try to do.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: The five hugest whitest nations in the West, all forming
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: this intelligence cooperative when you think of it that way,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I six M, I five CIA, like all kind of
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: being on the same path here. Isn't that shocking because
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: it could possibly be that David Ike is the same
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: thing they knew. They have to have a figure out
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: there who just him mentioning it is going to discredit
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: everyone else who tries to bring it up in a
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: real way, like it's the same thing as tabloids. Tabloids
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: aren't always wrong, the New York Posts, the New York
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Daily News. I think the best example is the National Inquirer,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: which one solved the murder of Bill Cosby's kid Nis
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: did some of the best reporting on the Jay trial.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Sometimes real stuff gets kicked down to them, and it's
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: not because they have a ton of integrity necessarily, it's
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: because someone somewhere knows kicking that story down to them
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: is gonna make it almost meaningless. Like, if you didn't
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: read it on the New York Times.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: What's it matter?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Do you know who's doing some of the best investigative
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: journalism right now is fucking Yahoo.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, BuzzFeed. Isn't BuzzFeed doing a lot
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: of that shit too? Not the way Yahoo is?
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, Yahoo's killing it. But who thinks of Yahoo anymore?
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I forget it's a thing.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: They broke the Postal Inspection Service story, which was that
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the Postal Inspection Service a few years ago started a
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: program where they're just monitoring social media, like everyone's social
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: media for inflammatory posts, and that's the kind of thing.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That news came out when Trump was in office. So
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: people on the left were like, oh, that's fine. So
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: they're just like looking for white supremacists and things, and
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: they were like no, yeah, yeah, yeah sure. But meanwhile,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: you read the article. When they pitched this idea to Republicans,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: they said they'd be looking for like Black Lives Matter
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and Antifa posts, and when they pushed it to Democrats,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: they said, well, we'll be looking for like white supremacists
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and things that are like so they're looking at everybody
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: for everything, and the only outlet that reported that was
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yahoo News, which is insane to me.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I think if I'm going to try and tie it
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: all back together in a very loose way, the way
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: that all of these Alex Jones and David Ikes and
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: disinformation people get traction and audiences, not just even fans
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: but like devotees is because we've lost a sense of
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: here's where I can go to a trusted source to
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: get actual information. Yeah. I read somewhere that the moon
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: rang like a bell. Well, why did it ring like
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: a bell? Oh? Because of you know the way the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: mantleism and it's different than the earth. No, someone went,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: it's because it's hollow, and then that turned into it's
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: filled with aliens, and that turned into with and their
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: satanic and that turned into and their shape shifting reptile
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: and so the next thing, you know, we've done bad
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: improv of disinformation because we have no center to go
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: and get actual information from anymore.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's are people not asking the obvious questions
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: when it comes to oh, the moon rang like a
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: bell and it's filled with aliens. Didn't those aliens come
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: out and see what the fuck was going on?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah? If you fucking throw something at my house and
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: my house rings. I'm coming out to be like, get
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: off my lawn, get off my moon kids, you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: like this is my house. Yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I do prefer that version of the moon theory though,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that it's just an observation thing where aliens just gawk
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: at us like the fucking losers that we are.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Look, if you want to talk about conspiracy theories that
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: I actually put some weight into. I love the idea
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: that the Earth is a galactic zoo, that we're not
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: filled with life that just went and found all of
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: these different ways to expand. Some intelligent species went, hey
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: this will live in the ocean, Hey this can live
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: on the land, Hey this can fly around, and just
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: put a bunch of weird shit from all over the
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: galaxy here, and then people go into the moon to
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: come check it out, because you don't want to get
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: too close to the wild animals down here. They got
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: sharp pointy things and they like stab you and they
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: bite you, you know, like.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: They got the guns and the bombs and the things.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Of the guns and the bombs, and they're very distrustful.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: They believe that there's shape shifting aliens, like they're crazy.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: You don't want to get around them. You know. It's
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: like when you go to a national park, leave the
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: wild life alone, stay removed from them.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely the kinder, gentler version of this theory
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: that I would be fine believing. But the thing where
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: they came down here and mate it with us and
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: gave us aleyen DNA whoof, that's scary.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: It's also super crazy that like an alien came to
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: this planet and just saw something walking around and went
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a fuck it, and then then that made babies,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: and then that made a whole new species.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Try to fuck that Monkey's what I'm telling you, bro.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: It's just a bunch of like frat aliens coming down
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: to Earth and being like, dude, these monkey girls are
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: so easy, bro, I don't even understand.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I like that version of ancient alien theory where they
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: land and they're like, we're here to show you how
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to live, and then the guy just starts fucking a
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: monkey and everyone's like, what are you doing?
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, you'll think me later. This will, this
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: will improve your species.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: You build a pyramid.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Why aren't they worshiping us? Because they're not gonna worship
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: a monkey fucker? What's wrong with you you're.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Having sex with a monkey maniac back on your spaceship.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of here. Who saw you build columns?
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Fuck off?
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: If I don't care, there's language. No, you monkey fucker
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: leave me.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the hollow moon theory is probably
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: not true.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Though, I mean hollow look chambered. How about chambered? Like
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I like the idea that there's something inside the moon,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: not the whole thing. It's just an outer shell and
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: there's nothing, but there's like a moon cave. There's super
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: alien technology or something that's kind of cool. Yeah, I
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: could see that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Obviously, the composition of it could be completely different from
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: what Earth is. I think science has kind of determined that. Yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: it's just the reptilian theory.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I still yeah, I don't think it's filled with satanic reptiles.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I don't I want it to be hollow. I want
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: it to be a hollow. I want it to be
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: a spaceship. I just don't want that to lead to genocide.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I like the moon is an amusement park theory where
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: you just go and watch people be assays. On Earth.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Certainly, the moon's like a roadside attraction while you're going
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: somewhere else. You see a billboard and they're like see
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Earth and you're like, yeah, should we pull over. We
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: could probably get some drinks and some food and let's
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: see what the Earthlings are doing, and then we go
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: on to Alpha Centauri or wherever the fuck we're going.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: You know someone's watching this right now on the Moon
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: in the un pops Land section of Travis You ready
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, Universal Studios.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Monaiversal Studios, we get it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's what's up there. It's where you go
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: go up there to look at human history, but like
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: you're at super Mario Land.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Or Welcome to Moon Jurassic Punk. That's great.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Do we have any final thoughts on the Hollow Moon?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I mean I think to really have a final thought
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: on it, you and I should just plan a trip
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: to the Moon. Yeah, we're gonna have to check it out. Yeah,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: we'll just go check it out. It's a bit of
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: a trek, but I think we could do it. I
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: will if we could books some shows between here and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: the Moon, we could just kind of like make the
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Moon the final destination and maybe do the ISS on
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: the way out. Yeah.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: And well, I feel like as long as the events
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: depicted in the documentary Apollo eighteen. Yes, true, as long
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: as that threat has been put down, I don't want
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: to go up there and fight spider moon rocks that
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: are gonna make it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Either or moon pigeons or any of the disassembled robots
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: that are allegedly up there as well. Yeah.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always my thoughts on people wanting to colonize
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: the Moon or colonize Mars, because there was that big
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: push I think it was like twenty fourteen or something
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: where you could just sign up to be one of
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the first people to go colonize Mars and they were
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: taking like one hundred and some thousand people.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they do that like every ten years.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, you really want to be first human.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: History has told us what happens to the first people
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: who arrive in a place, Like you're gonna get there,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you're gonna settle in, you're going to build a nice
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: life for your and then a team of intergalactic trumps
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: are just going to show up ten years later to
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: take everything over and you're like, hey, we're Native Martians,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: stop it, and they're like, fuck you Space Indian. You
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: know what this is?
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, out of here. You can go live on this
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: land and only this land until we decide that there's
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: space oil there. Then we need that space oil, right.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go after all that happens.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: So it's more like I want to be like Explore
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: five point zero. I think you're like, you want to
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: let a couple of generations fight and die out. Yeah.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get thing's good down here, and then yeah, put in.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: A scout in, you know, a Panda Express, put in
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: the infrastructure, and then I'll go hang out.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to move there. If there's no Panda Express.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: That's I'm not either, especially now they got that Beyond Chicken.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I want beyond Red Planet Chicken. That's what I want. Yeah,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: that's what I Yeah, if we're going to Mars.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I'm pretending to be excited about Beyond Chicken for entertainment purposes.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: But oh it's good. I'll tell you right now. It's good.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: So I think that's our episode, right.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, look, it's clear to us
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: that the Moon is Universal Studios. It's an amusement park.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: It's a place for aliens to stop by, have a
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: little entertainment and see some wildlife. Yeah, it's not filled
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: with Satanic reptiles.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: If they are, they're just visiting. They don't live there,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: They're just traveling from one place to another.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: They're there to see the show like anyone else.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you've ever been to an actual
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: amusement park, there's a certain amount of Satanists there just
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: because they're also there. You know, it's just statistics.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: And people who resemble reptiles at least.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's very reptile like people just who aren't aliens.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: That's just what they look like, big reptile energy. Yeah,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: very much cold blooded. So yeah, I'm gonna go with
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: the idea that the Moon is an amusement park, and
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I one hundred percent believe that that's true. I like it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I like that a lot. Well, Travis, thank you so
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: much for doing this episode. I appreciate it.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on to talk about all kinds
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: of weirdness, and of course yours do what is my
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: life's work, which is to promote David Ike? Of course, of.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Course, yeah, yours and mine both besides David Ike and
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the reptilian theory. Do you have anything to plug before
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: we get out of here?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: You don't even like this band where we're talking about
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: the Fleetwood Max story, which is it is almost as
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: if David Ike wrote it. It is so incredibly complex
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: and weird and at times seems like disinformation more than
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: it seems true.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: It's movie shit, Like I'm I'm researching the recording of
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Rumors right now, and within the first like weeks of that,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: they're already recording in a studio that has permanently installed
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: nitrous tanks.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: It has a studio called the Pit that is just
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a ten foot pit that goes down into the floor
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: and the musicians are supposed to stand around the top
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: while the engineer is in the bottom, and it's supposed
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: to make it so he can hear everything at once.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: But oh, it was built by sly Stone, and once
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: they built it, he just put all his equipment down
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: there and started recording down there. So Fleetwood Mac just
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: used it to do coke. And there's also a moment
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: while they're recording Rumors in the first couple of weeks
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: where Mick Fleetwood's wife is told that he's cheating on
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: her by a friend while she's driving John mcvie's car
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: back to Los Angeles and at the exact moment the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: friend tells her that Mick Fleetwood is cheating on her,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: they get t boned in another car in traffic.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: It is like a movie. But it's also like, if
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: you saw that in a movie, you'd go, that's a
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: little too convenient. You could have stretched those things out
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: a little bit. You didn't have that didn't have to
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: happen at exactly the same time. That's crazy. Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Also, if you saw it in a movie, you would
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: not believe that the studio they recorded part of Rumors
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: in had a room where the floor was a waterbed.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: What they have a room with just a waterbed floor.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: It's like if you've ever watched that sound City documentary,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: because I know they recorded some Fleetwood Mac stuff at
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: sound City and they talked about cleaning out that board
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: when Dave Grohl bought it and it was just like
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: filled with cocaine. Oh Like it was just they had
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: to vacuum out cocaine off of this multi million dollar
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: board that they were just like snorting, you know, all
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: the powder off of. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: So listen to our Fleetwood Mac podcast and uh, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: would like to plug Adam Todd Brown dot substack dot com.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: You can read my writings there. I'm back at it.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I took the end of the year off, but it's
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: January by the time this goes up, so it'll be
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: active again.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I'd like to plug that as well. You should subscribe
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, and uh, I think that's it, right.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's all we're allowed to say because of
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: our reptilian overlords, right right. This is as much information
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: as they're letting us. I mean, if you want the
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: true stuff, you should probably follow me on social media
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: at track Rivals that's.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, and you can follow me at Adam
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Todd Brown that's Todd with one D. And uh, let's
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: get out of here. Travis Segabat I could bye Earthly,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: goodbye everybody.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: We love you.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: People of Earth.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Your planets have to be destroyed, your plans to be destroyed.