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O'Brien & Doug Ep137 [February 9, 2023 This Podcast is NOT About Eddie Trunk. Really!] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_05: Hello children.
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SPEAKER_05: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com, KMH Music in Prescott, Maine, the Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and my cousin.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to my latest experiment.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a big one, the one I've been waiting for all my life.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm Doug.
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SPEAKER_05: I always when I say fast, it sounds like I'm saying welcome.
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome.
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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SPEAKER_05: It is episode 137.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
0:43
SPEAKER_05: Did I say 137?
0:45
SPEAKER_05: 147?
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SPEAKER_05: 137.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: We're not in the forties yet.
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SPEAKER_05: No.
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SPEAKER_05: 137.
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SPEAKER_05: Age-wise, yes.
0:52
SPEAKER_05: A lot to talk about.
0:53
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
0:54
SPEAKER_05: See, senor.
0:55
SPEAKER_05: The first thing, because it's uh it's fresh on my mind because we were just talking about it before we hit record.
0:59
SPEAKER_05: And that was my son.
1:00
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:01
SPEAKER_05: So I get a message from him.
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SPEAKER_05: Because he and it's a proud dad thing.
1:07
SPEAKER_05: I have to share this.
1:08
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
1:09
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:10
SPEAKER_05: Um We live in a an area.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know how to I don't know how to preface this.
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SPEAKER_05: Do you know what I mean when I say a roostic county mentality?
1:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:21
SPEAKER_05: What do I mean?
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SPEAKER_05: Or what do you think I think?
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SPEAKER_07: A small town man mentality.
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SPEAKER_07: Okay, which means Which means uh isolation.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: Means like I don't want to bother.
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SPEAKER_05: Um or you know, I'll I'll just not do something different.
1:40
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:41
SPEAKER_05: Or or something like uh somebody's gonna when somebody opens up new business.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh that's gonna fail.
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SPEAKER_00: Nobody's gonna go to that because of this.
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SPEAKER_00: And you can't do that up here.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:51
SPEAKER_00: You can't do that.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, it's just small thinking.
1:55
SPEAKER_05: You know?
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SPEAKER_05: Small town, small thinking.
1:57
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:58
SPEAKER_05: And and I never would have thought to So he just he just messaged me this morning.
2:05
SPEAKER_05: Um because if you don't know, and I think I've t I've said this before, uh, he's graduating early from college, which is with his bachelor's.
2:12
SPEAKER_05: Right.
2:12
SPEAKER_05: Um because he did the the whole dual enrollment thing, so he could take get his first year and a half or whatever of college out of the way while he's in high school.
2:20
SPEAKER_05: Right.
2:20
SPEAKER_05: So a lot and a lot of people are doing that.
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SPEAKER_05: It's still impressive, but it I mean it's it's nothing really, really new because they're I mean, they've been doing it for a few years now.
2:29
SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, yeah.
2:30
SPEAKER_05: So so he's graduating early from from college, but he decided, um, and I think I've said this before, he just wanted to take the um the um LSAT, which is the SATs for law students for law schools, just on a whim, because he took a law class for his bachelor's degree and he liked it.
2:48
SPEAKER_05: So he took the LSAT and he got better than average.
2:52
SPEAKER_05: Uh he wasn't happy with his score, but it was better than average.
2:55
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
2:56
SPEAKER_07: Um I'm sure it's better than what you and I could have put together.
2:59
SPEAKER_05: Guaranteed.
3:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
3:00
SPEAKER_05: So the dude just goes and applies to all these different law schools.
3:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh right?
3:07
SPEAKER_05: And he Notre Dame was his top pick.
3:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
3:10
SPEAKER_05: Uh he applied to Villanova.
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SPEAKER_05: He applied to um one in in Florida, applied to one in New Hampshire, Maine Law.
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SPEAKER_05: Um just, you know, he's just applying to them.
3:20
SPEAKER_05: And he got he got accepted to all of them, uh, except for a couple.
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SPEAKER_05: He's not waiting for Villanova because he doesn't want to live in Philadelphia.
3:28
SPEAKER_05: Who does?
3:28
SPEAKER_05: I know.
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SPEAKER_07: Nobody in Philadelphia wants to live in Philadelphia.
3:32
SPEAKER_07: I mean, come on.
3:33
SPEAKER_05: And uh he Notre Dame was his top pick and he knew he wasn't gonna get in, but he he so he didn't he didn't get in.
3:39
SPEAKER_05: Uh so he wasn't really probably doesn't look good in gold.
3:42
SPEAKER_05: Right.
3:42
SPEAKER_05: But all the other ones, I mean, he got in and he did very well for himself as far as, you know, uh tuition and stuff goes.
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SPEAKER_05: Did very well.
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SPEAKER_05: There was one school that uh still was very well, but not as well as it could be.
3:57
SPEAKER_05: Um and so I don't know whether um I'm not sure he has a girlfriend whose grandparents live in New Hampshire, which is where the school is.
4:06
SPEAKER_05: And I'm not sure whether that weighed into his decision to kind of you know approach that point.
4:11
SPEAKER_05: Of course it didn't.
4:12
SPEAKER_05: Of course not.
4:14
SPEAKER_07: No, come on.
4:15
SPEAKER_07: Um no man in the history of mankind has ever made a decision based on a woman.
4:22
SPEAKER_07: That is just not even that's unthinkable.
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SPEAKER_07: I mean, next you're gonna tell me that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
4:30
SPEAKER_07: I mean, come on.
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SPEAKER_07: You're nuts, right.
4:34
SPEAKER_05: So anyway.
4:36
SPEAKER_05: So anyway, he gets so so he doesn't he doesn't do as well at this particular school as he did on the other ones.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
4:45
SPEAKER_05: And so we get a message from him this morning.
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SPEAKER_05: And he said, uh I got into you know uh I UNH and and and and then he tells us, you know, w what happened, and we're like, What what?
4:59
SPEAKER_05: He said we got more money from the school.
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SPEAKER_05: Well good.
5:02
SPEAKER_05: And we're like, well, how did you do that?
5:05
SPEAKER_05: He said, I asked.
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SPEAKER_03: I was like, you're meaning by small talent mentality.
5:13
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, I never thought of that.
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SPEAKER_05: Can I some more money?
5:17
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
5:18
SPEAKER_05: Well, it was what wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_05: It was a matter of it was a matter of him writing to the admissions or whatever, and he says, you know, this school gave me this much money, this school gave me this much money, and this well, why don't you give me this much money?
5:31
SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay.
5:32
SPEAKER_07: Wow.
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SPEAKER_04: Who'd have thought about it?
5:35
SPEAKER_07: You know, I mean, come on.
5:36
SPEAKER_07: But yeah, you know, but you know, around here nobody has any money.
5:39
SPEAKER_07: Right.
5:40
SPEAKER_07: Well, this is true.
5:40
SPEAKER_07: That's probably why we wouldn't think of doing that.
5:43
SPEAKER_07: It'd be like, you know, you know the only people that have money are the farmers and the banks.
5:47
SPEAKER_05: Right.
5:48
SPEAKER_05: That's it.
5:48
SPEAKER_05: Here's the caveat because uh he technically he's graduating, he's he's marching for graduation at his at his current school in June.
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SPEAKER_05: But that's dependent on and he is marching, but he has to get an internship in the field that he's going to school for, uh, a summer internship.
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SPEAKER_07: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_05: Or he doesn't graduate.
6:11
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
6:11
SPEAKER_05: So he's marching.
6:12
SPEAKER_07: So he's got to get the internship before he graduates.
6:14
SPEAKER_07: Right.
6:14
SPEAKER_07: And he will it doesn't necessarily have to be at that time.
6:17
SPEAKER_05: Right.
6:17
SPEAKER_05: Right.
6:18
SPEAKER_05: And he doesn't go into law school if he doesn't graduate.
6:20
SPEAKER_05: Right.
6:21
SPEAKER_05: So he said that I have an internship I'm looking at in Indiana.
6:25
SPEAKER_06: Interesting.
6:26
SPEAKER_05: It'd be a three-month in internship, and and uh he says I have to find um lodging this week if I want it.
6:34
SPEAKER_05: So so if he wants this internship in Indiana, he's gotta find an apartment or something, and it's not a paid internship.
6:41
SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm sure, you know, I'm not usually internships are right, right.
6:45
SPEAKER_05: So I'm like, what are you gonna do?
6:47
SPEAKER_07: He said, I'm gonna Well he's probably just gonna ask somebody, right?
6:50
SPEAKER_07: Can I live at your house?
6:54
SPEAKER_00: I would not put its hands down.
6:56
SPEAKER_07: Just open up the it's just like open up the phone book and like do do.
7:01
SPEAKER_07: I know.
7:01
SPEAKER_07: Steve, yeah, you don't know me, but I want to live at your house so I can do it in internship.
7:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, sure, come on in.
7:08
SPEAKER_07: I don't have any money because it's an unpaid internship.
7:10
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's okay, don't worry.
7:12
SPEAKER_07: We'll make you bow the lawn and do the dishes and stuff.
7:14
SPEAKER_07: Okay, fair enough.
7:16
SPEAKER_05: Uh while we're on the topic, I know we got a lot to talk about, but while we're on the topic of uh my children.
7:21
SPEAKER_07: But good for him, man.
7:22
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, isn't that awesome?
7:23
SPEAKER_05: That is really awesome.
7:24
SPEAKER_05: My uh my children.
7:26
SPEAKER_05: Um, so uh let's see.
7:30
SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, right here.
7:32
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
7:33
SPEAKER_05: This this thing that have you ever heard of what is it called?
7:39
SPEAKER_05: Chat uh C what is it called?
7:45
SPEAKER_05: Hold on, it's a it's an AI thing.
7:49
SPEAKER_05: Chat GPT?
7:53
SPEAKER_05: Chat GPT.
7:54
SPEAKER_05: No.
7:55
SPEAKER_05: You've never heard of it.
7:56
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
7:57
SPEAKER_05: Well, it's artificial intelligence.
8:00
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that stuff's creeping me out.
8:02
SPEAKER_07: It is creeping me out.
8:03
SPEAKER_05: You can ask it to do things for you.
8:05
SPEAKER_05: Like like people college kids are using this to write papers.
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SPEAKER_05: Write a paper on uh this and this, uh, and my thesis statement is this, boom.
8:16
SPEAKER_05: It's done.
8:18
SPEAKER_05: And it's that's gotta be And it's decent.
8:21
SPEAKER_07: But that's gotta be illegal at some point.
8:23
SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm sure there's something it's gotta be something wrong with that.
8:27
SPEAKER_05: There there has to be.
8:28
SPEAKER_05: And here's the here's one thing the only reason I bring it up is because my daughters, and and at this she's like, I'm gonna share something with you.
8:37
SPEAKER_05: I think I don't think you're gonna like it.
8:38
SPEAKER_05: I think you're gonna get mad.
8:39
SPEAKER_05: And I said, What?
8:41
SPEAKER_05: And she said, You heard of chat This is number one we're talking about.
8:44
SPEAKER_05: This is number one.
8:45
SPEAKER_05: Right.
8:45
SPEAKER_05: She says, You've heard of Chat GPT?
8:47
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, Yeah, I've you know, I mean it's in the news and and she says, Yeah, well, um, my boss thought he'd be funny and he asked Chat GPT GPT to uh write a song about uh a videographer about Olivia, my my daughter.
9:06
SPEAKER_05: Right.
9:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh write a song uh about a videographer uh who um like well who's great at color correction and blah blah blah blah.
9:15
SPEAKER_05: Okay boom it was done.
9:17
SPEAKER_05: Really?
9:18
SPEAKER_05: Now it's not great.
9:19
SPEAKER_05: I mean it's kind of it's kind of cheeky.
9:21
SPEAKER_05: It's uh but she's a computer.
9:23
SPEAKER_05: I know.
9:24
SPEAKER_05: But she thought I wouldn't like it because I'm a songwriter and it's kind of oh sure, yeah.
9:28
SPEAKER_07: You know, taken away.
9:29
SPEAKER_07: I get what she's doing.
9:30
SPEAKER_07: Um I'm picking up what she's laying out.
9:32
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna read it to you.
9:33
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
9:34
SPEAKER_05: Um This is all done by artificial intelligence.
9:37
SPEAKER_05: So let's just get that.
9:39
SPEAKER_05: She's from Maine, a videographer with a camera in her hand.
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SPEAKER_05: She captures it all from the ocean waves to the autumn leaves.
9:46
SPEAKER_05: She knows how to make it all look so grand.
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SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she's the one with the eye.
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SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she'll make your memories fly.
9:56
SPEAKER_05: She's always on the go with a new project in mind.
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SPEAKER_05: From weddings to music videos, she's one of a kind.
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SPEAKER_05: She's got the talent and the drive to make it all shine.
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SPEAKER_05: With Olivia behind the lens, your story will come alive.
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SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she's one with the eye.
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SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she'll make your memories fly.
10:15
SPEAKER_05: She's one with the eye.
10:17
SPEAKER_05: She's the one with the eye, I'm sorry.
10:18
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
10:19
SPEAKER_05: With her footage and her edits, she'll tell your tale.
10:21
SPEAKER_05: She'll take you back to that moment and make it feel like it's real.
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SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she's the one with the eye.
10:27
SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she'll make your memories fly.
10:30
SPEAKER_05: And this is the outro.
10:31
SPEAKER_05: From Maine, she's making her mark with her camera and her heart.
10:34
SPEAKER_05: Olivia, Olivia, she'll capture it all and make it forever yours to call.
10:40
SPEAKER_05: Verse three.
10:40
SPEAKER_05: She's got an eye for color and light.
10:43
SPEAKER_05: She'll make your footage shine just right.
10:45
SPEAKER_05: From grading to correction, she knows what to do.
10:48
SPEAKER_05: She'll bring out the hues and make it all look new.
10:51
SPEAKER_05: Then it goes to the chorus again, and then the bridge, which with her footage in her edit, she'll tell you her tale, she'll take you back to that moment, make it feel like it's real.
10:59
SPEAKER_05: Her color correction skills are top-notch, making every shot look like it's a masterpiece.
11:04
SPEAKER_05: And then the chorus, and then the outro.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: You know.
11:10
SPEAKER_07: Well, I mean, honestly, who would use the word footage or a song?
11:15
SPEAKER_07: Of course.
11:16
SPEAKER_07: Or color correction.
11:17
SPEAKER_05: But just just the fact that that was done by a computer, by artificial intelligence, pulling information from Lord knows what he put in was All he put in was probably her name, obviously.
11:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh, yeah.
11:36
SPEAKER_05: Olivia the videographer from Maine, who because he c he he gave her a uh an award or something uh as a joke for Christmas, was the the color correction queen.
11:48
SPEAKER_05: You know, because she specializes apparently in color correction.
11:51
SPEAKER_05: My leash.
11:52
SPEAKER_05: Right.
11:52
SPEAKER_05: Right.
11:53
SPEAKER_05: So um I just I don't know.
11:57
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
11:57
SPEAKER_05: She she said, I thought you guys might want to talk about this in your podcast.
12:01
SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm I'm I'm gonna be honest with you, it's of the devil.
12:04
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
12:05
SPEAKER_07: Which is ironic because she's working for a Catholic and you know, you know, right company.
12:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:11
SPEAKER_07: Uh but artificial tennis the whole thing, like you've been seeing on Facebook these pictures that you know you say it and this artificial tension will come up with a picture of whatever you say.
12:22
SPEAKER_05: Right.
12:23
SPEAKER_07: There is something revelation-y about that.
12:26
SPEAKER_05: I agree.
12:27
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
12:28
SPEAKER_05: Yep, I agree.
12:29
SPEAKER_07: That's just it just creeps me the freak out.
12:31
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
12:32
SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
12:33
SPEAKER_07: I think of it's getting to the point.
12:35
SPEAKER_07: Well, I mean, we're we're like this close to uh Skynet and Terminators.
12:42
SPEAKER_05: That's what I was just gonna say.
12:42
SPEAKER_05: You know what I'm saying?
12:43
SPEAKER_05: I think of Terminator, I think of Maximum Overdrive where the machines take over.
12:47
SPEAKER_05: Right.
12:47
SPEAKER_05: You know, uh yeah.
12:50
SPEAKER_05: I I uh it it freaks me out too.
12:52
SPEAKER_05: You know, yeah, it freaks me out.
12:54
SPEAKER_07: I mean, I'm looking for Sarah Connor, man.
12:57
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna I'm gonna get on her good side.
12:59
SPEAKER_07: Well, you know, it's it's like I got a gun.
13:01
SPEAKER_07: Isn't it just gonna be on your team?
13:03
SPEAKER_05: Isn't it just weird how And I think it's I think it's human beings um like their imagination.
13:12
SPEAKER_05: Like, for example, all the things like in the movies from like the 70s and 80s came true.
13:21
SPEAKER_05: Because the people that thought them up like like um video phones.
13:26
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
13:27
SPEAKER_05: You know, that was in movies in like the the se the eighties, yeah, right?
13:30
SPEAKER_05: And now we have video phones.
13:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
13:33
SPEAKER_05: Because people are like, oh, we should let's find a way to do that, like really do that.
13:36
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's really true.
13:38
SPEAKER_07: So they did.
13:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
13:39
SPEAKER_05: And let's find a way to have artificial intelligence.
13:43
SPEAKER_05: And they did.
13:44
SPEAKER_05: And they did.
13:44
SPEAKER_05: And they're gonna screw up this world.
13:47
SPEAKER_07: I'm telling you, man.
13:48
SPEAKER_07: It's it's straight, it's straight out of the end times.
13:51
SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
13:51
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
13:52
SPEAKER_07: It's it's just really not good.
13:54
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
13:54
SPEAKER_08: Everybody's like, oh, it's so cool.
13:56
SPEAKER_08: I'm like, no, it's not.
13:59
SPEAKER_08: Nah.
14:00
SPEAKER_08: It's not.
14:00
SPEAKER_08: Nah.
14:01
SPEAKER_08: It's not.
14:01
SPEAKER_08: Nah.
14:02
SPEAKER_05: Um not feeling it, bruh.
14:04
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
14:04
SPEAKER_05: I I just wanted to uh talk about those couple things.
14:08
SPEAKER_05: And now let's back to music.
14:10
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
14:11
SPEAKER_05: We had a great show yesterday.
14:13
SPEAKER_05: We're recording this on Tuesday.
14:14
SPEAKER_05: Fat Tuesday.
14:15
SPEAKER_05: Is it today, Fat Tuesday, or is that next week?
14:17
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
14:19
SPEAKER_07: I'm not Catholic.
14:20
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that's true.
14:22
SPEAKER_05: Uh but that's a kind of a general a general thing.
14:25
SPEAKER_07: Well, when's Mardi Gras?
14:29
SPEAKER_08: Let me just uh type it in here to the artificial intelligence.
14:33
SPEAKER_08: Hey AI, can you write a song about Mardi Gras?
14:36
SPEAKER_08: Can you write a song about Fat Tuesday?
14:38
SPEAKER_08: Yes.
14:39
SPEAKER_08: O'Brien! O'Brien.
14:42
SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
14:44
SPEAKER_05: Oh, Fat Tuesday is February 21st.
14:47
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so we we have a couple weeks time.
14:49
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
14:49
SPEAKER_07: Um because it's it's the day before Ash Wednesday.
14:52
SPEAKER_07: Right.
14:52
SPEAKER_07: So no, we're not good.
14:55
SPEAKER_07: We're not there.
14:57
SPEAKER_07: Why did I ask that?
15:00
SPEAKER_07: I have no idea.
15:01
SPEAKER_07: I think it was just that it was a Tuesday thing, you were like, oh yeah, yeah.
15:04
SPEAKER_07: Is it Fat Tuesday?
15:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
15:05
SPEAKER_05: So we're recording this on Tuesday.
15:07
SPEAKER_05: Yesterday, um, Star City Syndicate did a couple uh really, really fun shows at a couple of schools in the county.
15:13
SPEAKER_05: Well, like we like we did back in November.
15:15
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
15:16
SPEAKER_05: Uh and the crowd, um, at least the first crowd, the second crowd was good too, but the first crowd was off the hook.
15:21
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that was like a rock show.
15:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
15:23
SPEAKER_07: Wow, it was like seriously up.
15:25
SPEAKER_07: Like I thought, you know, like, you know, stuff was gonna start flying on the stage, right?
15:30
SPEAKER_07: Kind of thing.
15:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, screaming, man.
15:32
SPEAKER_05: It was screaming, I thought I was a beetle.
15:34
SPEAKER_07: I uh yeah, I I that's kind of why I felt.
15:36
SPEAKER_07: I kind of felt like a beetle for the some some guys like my shirt.
15:40
SPEAKER_07: I was like, okay, a little okay, thanks, man.
15:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like 10.
15:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:46
SPEAKER_05: It was cool.
15:47
SPEAKER_05: It was cool.
15:48
SPEAKER_05: So once again, that's our that's our you know, um effort to get in the schools and and and tell kids that you can always play an instrument.
15:55
SPEAKER_07: I'm curious to see if that's actually working.
15:58
SPEAKER_07: Well I you know, because I think I mean, even if it gets kids interested in other things, you know, other types of music, like because I mean we're not playing modern music.
16:09
SPEAKER_05: No, we're not.
16:09
SPEAKER_05: No.
16:10
SPEAKER_07: So if it gets them interested in like, ooh, I like that song.
16:12
SPEAKER_07: Who does that?
16:13
SPEAKER_07: You know, you know, if it if it's doing that, then mission accomplished.
16:18
SPEAKER_05: Well, you know, I think could because the second in the second show that we did, we had uh some student uh musicians uh from the band at that school come up and and play they're horn players, and they sat in with our horns.
16:30
SPEAKER_05: You gotta know that that was better than playing in the school band.
16:36
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: Right.
16:37
SPEAKER_05: We did Sweet Caroline.
16:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
16:39
SPEAKER_05: And they and they played with us, and you know, it we played we played the middle school in uh Prescall not too long ago, like like c a year ago.
16:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
16:47
SPEAKER_05: And my both my boys got up and played with us.
16:50
SPEAKER_05: They can't wait to play with us again.
16:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, see.
16:52
SPEAKER_05: You know?
16:52
SPEAKER_07: Well, I'm uh you know, I was joking around, but um I was serious yesterday when I told Sarah that uh they're now part of the Star City Syndicate uh JV team.
17:01
SPEAKER_05: Right.
17:02
SPEAKER_05: No, it's true.
17:02
SPEAKER_05: And I made a joke.
17:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
17:04
SPEAKER_05: But I'm half I was only half kidding that uh Star City Syndicate could be like KISS.
17:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
17:09
SPEAKER_05: Where you know uh if members age out, because we've already got a couple people that are talking about, you know, slowing down.
17:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
17:17
SPEAKER_05: Um because you know we've got we've got someone in our in their seventies.
17:20
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah.
17:21
SPEAKER_07: I mean it it's it's it's it's a grind in the summertime.
17:25
SPEAKER_07: It can be it can be a grind.
17:26
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
17:26
SPEAKER_07: Because a lot of us are in other bands.
17:28
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
17:29
SPEAKER_07: And uh, you know, we're not we're not spring chickens.
17:32
SPEAKER_07: Right.
17:33
SPEAKER_07: You know.
17:34
SPEAKER_07: Um, but you know, it would be nice.
17:36
SPEAKER_07: I mean, if they were really interested, I mean, because as far as I was concerned, they sounded great.
17:41
SPEAKER_07: Those kids that played with us yesterday.
17:43
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I would be more than happy to have them gig with us.
17:47
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
17:48
unknown: Yeah.
17:48
SPEAKER_07: If they were interested, yeah.
17:50
SPEAKER_07: Why not?
17:50
SPEAKER_07: Why why couldn't we fill out the horn section?
17:52
SPEAKER_05: Well what you know what I'm saying is, you know, the Star City Syndicate could just keep going for for a long time.
18:01
SPEAKER_05: You know, like say I leave the band.
18:03
SPEAKER_05: I'm not going to, obviously, anytime soon.
18:06
SPEAKER_07: Are you trying to tell us something?
18:07
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
18:08
SPEAKER_07: Well, I've had enough of you.
18:09
SPEAKER_07: Oh, you're gonna do some uh Oh, you're gonna do you start working with AI.
18:12
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, what can I do with AI, you know?
18:15
SPEAKER_05: Right, exactly.
18:16
SPEAKER_05: Uh but you know, say say one day, you know, we get too old or say something happens and I break my back, and you know, you can I can be replaced, you know?
18:25
SPEAKER_05: Well, yes and no.
18:27
SPEAKER_05: Well, it'll be different.
18:29
SPEAKER_05: It'll be different, you know, but but you could get a new member, I guess is what I'm saying.
18:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
18:34
SPEAKER_05: You know, yeah, and and the Star City's indicate could go on.
18:36
SPEAKER_07: Right.
18:37
SPEAKER_07: Well, that's what that's you know, yeah.
18:38
SPEAKER_07: But we you know, we missed the we missed the thing where we disguise ourselves like KISS.
18:43
SPEAKER_07: This is true.
18:44
SPEAKER_07: You know, we should have done that in the beginning.
18:45
SPEAKER_07: That way it would have just been a seamless.
18:47
SPEAKER_05: Well, I've our I've disguised myself as a as a fat, middle-aged uh man, bald.
18:52
SPEAKER_07: I have too, and it's working well.
18:53
SPEAKER_05: It is working very well.
18:54
SPEAKER_05: Nobody sees me.
18:55
SPEAKER_07: It's completely it's completely urban camouflage.
19:00
SPEAKER_07: I'm a stealth agent.
19:02
SPEAKER_07: Right.
19:03
SPEAKER_07: My boss thinks I'm a maturing in candidate anyway.
19:06
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
19:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
19:08
SPEAKER_07: He keeps he re he'll randomly like say words to see if I'll snap.
19:13
SPEAKER_07: It's really funny.
19:16
SPEAKER_07: But he just he'll just walk by me go, like, grapefruit.
19:20
SPEAKER_07: Nothing?
19:20
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
19:22
SPEAKER_07: Stuff like that.
19:23
SPEAKER_05: Is that who is that Rudy?
19:26
SPEAKER_05: No, no, okay.
19:27
SPEAKER_05: Uh so speaking of aging out, uh, you mentioned it when you first got here.
19:32
SPEAKER_05: Ozzie's not touring anymore.
19:35
SPEAKER_07: I I kind of saw that coming when he started freaking out about something.
19:40
SPEAKER_07: Uh what was he freaking out about?
19:42
SPEAKER_07: He wasn't gonna tour in the US anymore.
19:44
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, something anyway, something stupid.
19:46
SPEAKER_05: I wanted to talk about the fact that there are there's there's some people that are um so Ozzy was one that was saying he's not gonna tour anymore.
19:55
SPEAKER_07: Because I mean he's his health is he's not I mean the fact that that guy is still alive is amazing in itself.
20:01
SPEAKER_07: I think we talked about a couple, what was it, last year, the year before we talked he's actually considered a superhuman.
20:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:08
SPEAKER_05: We did, yeah.
20:09
SPEAKER_05: Um so the Grammys were on Sunday night.
20:13
SPEAKER_05: We can talk about that more in a second if you really want to.
20:16
SPEAKER_05: Um But Mick Fleetwood did a uh Bonnie Raite and who else was it?
20:21
SPEAKER_05: Was it uh was it um Brandy Clark?
20:27
SPEAKER_05: Brand Brandy Carlisle?
20:28
SPEAKER_05: Brandy Carlisle, I think it was Brandy Carlisle.
20:31
SPEAKER_05: They did a tribute to um Christy McVee from Fleetwood Mac.
20:34
SPEAKER_05: Nice.
20:34
SPEAKER_05: And during the press for that, McFleetwood said, Yeah, I think uh Fleetwood Mac is pretty much over.
20:39
SPEAKER_07: I did see that.
20:40
SPEAKER_07: I saw that tagline.
20:41
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I didn't really I didn't read the article, but uh I'm not surprised.
20:45
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I'm not I mean, because you know, he's no spring chicken.
20:49
SPEAKER_07: That's true, he's in his 70s, yeah, and and Stevie's in her 70s, and and Lindsay's just a weirdo.
20:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
20:55
SPEAKER_07: So I mean, and Chris Christine's gone.
20:59
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
21:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:01
SPEAKER_07: I mean I mean, I don't know.
21:03
SPEAKER_07: I mean, you like like you were saying, you can replace a person, but you can't replace that person.
21:08
SPEAKER_05: Right.
21:08
SPEAKER_05: The chemistry, the sound, the the what they brought to the table.
21:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's yeah, it'll be difficult.
21:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh but there are some people that are still going, and there's some some recent concert tour announcements I just wanted to talk about for a second.
21:22
SPEAKER_05: So Robert Plant and Alison Krauss going out on tour.
21:25
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
21:26
SPEAKER_05: Uh it is very cool.
21:27
SPEAKER_05: Um they have kind of a connection there.
21:30
SPEAKER_07: I'm not sure like a May-December thing, you know.
21:32
SPEAKER_05: Uh but they're not a couple, right?
21:34
SPEAKER_07: No, I don't I don't think so.
21:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't think so either.
21:37
SPEAKER_05: Uh Brian Adams and Joan Jett.
21:40
SPEAKER_05: That's a little weird.
21:41
SPEAKER_05: It is a little weird, but cool.
21:42
SPEAKER_05: I guess.
21:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I like it.
21:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
21:44
SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see, what else?
21:47
SPEAKER_05: I was just looking through through this.
21:49
SPEAKER_05: Um, of course, I'm getting all of this on uh ultimate classicrock.com, which is of course the official site of O'Brien and Duck.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: The official site of O'Brien and Duck.
21:58
SPEAKER_05: Uh Bruce Springsteen, can you So Springsteen and the E Street Band still going.
22:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:04
SPEAKER_05: Um Journey just went out again.
22:07
SPEAKER_07: Of course, they're like Yeah, but everybody except the lead singer.
22:11
SPEAKER_05: Well, true.
22:12
SPEAKER_07: Oh, and and I don't know how old Dean is.
22:14
SPEAKER_07: Is Dean still drumming?
22:16
SPEAKER_07: Dean's still drumming.
22:16
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
22:17
SPEAKER_05: Dean's still drummer.
22:18
SPEAKER_05: He uh he was just on he doesn't know how much longer that's gonna go because of all their bat legal battles and everything.
22:23
SPEAKER_05: Right that's going with that.
22:25
SPEAKER_07: Um I I was just he's that I mean he's gotta be he's gotta be our age.
22:30
SPEAKER_05: Oh at least oh yeah, he's older than us.
22:33
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's a lot.
22:34
SPEAKER_05: Uh actually, well let me double check because he I think he's in his 60s.
22:38
SPEAKER_07: Because the Revolution Saints are coming out with a new album.
22:41
SPEAKER_05: They are with new members.
22:42
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
22:42
SPEAKER_05: Jeff Pilson.
22:43
SPEAKER_07: Jeff Pilson and um uh uh uh from uh Whitesnake.
22:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah um Doug Ulridge.
22:51
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
22:51
SPEAKER_05: No, no, no, Joel Joel Holkstra.
22:55
SPEAKER_05: Joel Holkstra.
22:55
SPEAKER_07: I always get Doug yeah, I think I talked about it.
22:58
SPEAKER_07: I always get those two mixed up.
22:59
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, they look really similar.
23:01
SPEAKER_07: I think they're twins separated at birth.
23:02
SPEAKER_07: So that's a conspiracy theory.
23:04
SPEAKER_05: I was actually just listening to um Eddie Trunk's podcast and he had them on.
23:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:08
SPEAKER_05: Uh talking about it.
23:09
SPEAKER_05: And wait, who?
23:10
SPEAKER_05: He he had um Dean, Joel Holkstra, and um um Jeff Pilson?
23:16
SPEAKER_05: Jeff Pilson on.
23:17
SPEAKER_05: Really?
23:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that'd be cool.
23:18
SPEAKER_05: Because you know, uh Oh, I thought he's I thought he was older than that.
23:22
SPEAKER_05: Dean is fifty-eight.
23:23
unknown: Yeah.
23:24
SPEAKER_05: Okay, Dean Castro knows fifty-eight.
23:26
SPEAKER_05: Okay, that's probably um so he had them on and and uh Pilson's uh obviously talking about how Foreigner is ending.
23:31
SPEAKER_05: This they're doing their farewell tour, and this will be this will be the end of Foreigner.
23:35
SPEAKER_05: Um and that all these little bands, I mean Dean was talking about how all of them, I mean, Joel Holkstra is in Whitesnake.
23:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he also has a Trans Siberian Orchestra that he plays with.
23:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh he's got his own band thing going.
23:50
SPEAKER_05: Dean Castro is in everything, yeah.
23:53
SPEAKER_05: Right?
23:54
SPEAKER_05: And and the same thing with um Um Jeff Pilson.
23:58
SPEAKER_05: Jeff Pilson.
23:58
SPEAKER_05: Or no.
23:59
SPEAKER_05: He's well, yeah, because he's got all those things with with George Lynch.
24:01
SPEAKER_05: George Lynch, yeah.
24:02
SPEAKER_05: Um and he's he's also producing, so he's got all these side, yeah, you know, all these side gigs.
24:08
SPEAKER_05: And so they don't know how much Foreigner's getting done.
24:11
SPEAKER_05: Dean doesn't know how much longer uh Journey's gonna go.
24:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
24:15
SPEAKER_05: But he's happy to have the gig.
24:16
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
24:16
SPEAKER_05: Uh Joel Holkstra, I mean, Whitesnake is because Coverdale's up there too.
24:23
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he's he's gotta be in his 70s because he was uh he's a contemporary with Robert Plant.
24:28
SPEAKER_07: Yep, easily.
24:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I mean um Def Leppard, of course, they they're going back back out on a world tour uh with Motley Crue.
24:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
24:40
SPEAKER_06: They're old.
24:41
SPEAKER_05: Uh and you you heard how who's playing guitar for Motley Crue, right?
24:44
SPEAKER_05: No.
24:44
SPEAKER_05: John Five.
24:46
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, John Five.
24:48
SPEAKER_07: That makes complete sense to me.
24:50
SPEAKER_07: It does.
24:50
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
24:50
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
24:51
SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
24:53
SPEAKER_07: I think I saw that somewhere.
24:54
SPEAKER_07: Now that you mentioned it.
24:55
SPEAKER_05: Ario Speedwagon's piano player Neil Dowdy retired, so they've replaced him uh with former Whitesnake foreigner and Rick Springfield keyboardist Derek Highland.
25:04
SPEAKER_05: They're going out on tour.
25:06
SPEAKER_05: Um let's see.
25:09
SPEAKER_05: I because I saw a couple other announcements here.
25:12
SPEAKER_05: Um there's the Mick Fleetwood story.
25:22
SPEAKER_05: Um John Mellencamp uh launches 2023 tour in Indiana.
25:28
SPEAKER_05: Uh Carlos Santana announces fall Las Vegas res residency dates.
25:33
SPEAKER_07: Well, that a residency date is pretty sweet.
25:36
SPEAKER_07: It is because you don't have to go out.
25:38
SPEAKER_05: Right.
25:39
SPEAKER_07: You know, you can just stay in one place and play for months and months and months.
25:42
SPEAKER_05: Right.
25:42
SPEAKER_05: Here's the latest one, and I would love to see this.
25:45
SPEAKER_05: Pat Benatar has announced a spring headlining tour.
25:48
SPEAKER_05: Nice.
25:49
SPEAKER_05: So I mean, these guys are still doing it.
25:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
25:52
SPEAKER_05: You know, I think it's and I think it's great, but it's understandable if they start to slow down.
25:57
SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah.
25:58
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
25:58
SPEAKER_07: I mean, they're senior citizens now.
26:00
SPEAKER_07: Right.
26:00
SPEAKER_07: They're getting, you know, AARP mail.
26:02
SPEAKER_07: Technically, they've been senior citizens for a while.
26:04
SPEAKER_07: Well, true, yeah.
26:05
SPEAKER_07: But still, you know what I mean?
26:06
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
26:06
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
26:07
SPEAKER_05: Um, so let's talk real quick, uh, only real quick about the Grammys, because I didn't watch.
26:12
SPEAKER_05: Did you watch?
26:13
SPEAKER_07: Of course not.
26:14
SPEAKER_05: I heard I hate award shows.
26:16
SPEAKER_05: I heard rumblings about, you know, things that that happened.
26:20
SPEAKER_07: Um Well, the only the only thing that I took out of it was that Sam Smith thing, who I don't even know who he is.
26:27
SPEAKER_07: I'd never heard of him.
26:28
SPEAKER_07: Well, his song is all over TikTok and Well, I don't I don't have TikTok and I don't really give a crap about TikTok.
26:35
SPEAKER_07: So, but I you know, that that's the only thing anybody seems to be talking about is his his thing at the Grammys.
26:42
SPEAKER_07: And that's why he did it.
26:44
SPEAKER_07: Well, exactly.
26:45
SPEAKER_07: Well, everybody's freaking out.
26:46
SPEAKER_07: And I'm like, well, you know, the Grammy, nobody's watching the Grammys anymore.
26:52
SPEAKER_07: Right.
26:52
SPEAKER_07: So they had to know what he was doing.
26:55
SPEAKER_07: It's not like he showed up, you know, and he was like, hey, I'm gonna do this.
26:59
SPEAKER_07: What?
26:59
SPEAKER_07: No, they of course they just has to be they knew exactly what he was going to do.
27:06
SPEAKER_05: Because he probably rehearsed it for one thing.
27:07
SPEAKER_07: Well, yeah, you gotta.
27:08
SPEAKER_07: You know, and you gotta get the lighting and the ruffle feathers.
27:12
SPEAKER_05: I heard like like um he he's they're gonna he's gonna ruffle feathers, he's gonna, you know, he's going to um tick some people off and and scare some people and blah, blah, blah, blah.
27:23
SPEAKER_05: Of course they did it for ratings.
27:24
SPEAKER_05: Of course they did it for that.
27:25
SPEAKER_05: That's exactly what did it.
27:26
SPEAKER_07: It's a it's his publicity stunt.
27:29
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
27:29
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
27:30
SPEAKER_07: Does does Sam Smith actually worship the devil?
27:33
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
27:34
SPEAKER_07: Maybe.
27:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't know.
27:35
SPEAKER_07: That's his that's his deal.
27:37
SPEAKER_05: That's the reason he did the performance that he did.
27:39
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but I mean, next year nobody's gonna be talking about this guy.
27:43
SPEAKER_07: Remember when uh what's his face, Little Nas X did his thing?
27:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
27:47
SPEAKER_07: Is anybody talking about Little Nas X?
27:49
SPEAKER_05: That lasted for about a month?
27:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
27:51
SPEAKER_07: And this will be the same thing, it'll go for about a month or so, and then nobody will talk about him again.
27:57
SPEAKER_07: Right.
27:57
SPEAKER_07: Unless he does something even more outrageous.
28:00
SPEAKER_07: Right.
28:00
SPEAKER_07: Like sacrifice a baby or something, you know.
28:04
SPEAKER_07: I mean, you know, I think if anybody was actually devil worshiping, if the if Satan actually showed up, they would freak the frig out.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
28:17
SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
28:18
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
28:19
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
28:19
SPEAKER_07: You know, you gotta watch the more seductive.
28:22
SPEAKER_07: You know, the devil's not gonna come out as the devil.
28:25
SPEAKER_07: Right.
28:26
SPEAKER_07: He's gonna get you in different ways.
28:27
SPEAKER_07: Right.
28:28
SPEAKER_07: You know what I mean?
28:28
SPEAKER_07: Because he's sneaky.
28:29
SPEAKER_07: He's gonna come out as Madonna.
28:31
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
28:32
SPEAKER_07: Did you say her, man?
28:33
SPEAKER_05: I did.
28:33
SPEAKER_07: Holy crap.
28:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she looks yeah.
28:36
SPEAKER_07: She does not look good, man.
28:37
SPEAKER_05: No, evil.
28:38
SPEAKER_05: She kind of looks evil.
28:40
SPEAKER_07: I don't know, man.
28:41
SPEAKER_07: Just she looks bloated, man.
28:42
SPEAKER_05: It's yeah, it's yes.
28:44
SPEAKER_07: I think the Botox just went Yeah.
28:47
SPEAKER_07: I don't know, man.
28:48
SPEAKER_07: Just back, but you know, I you know, as far as you know, it it was all a publicity stunt.
28:52
SPEAKER_07: It's not should kids be listening to that or watching that?
28:57
SPEAKER_07: No.
28:58
SPEAKER_07: No.
28:58
SPEAKER_07: But that's your job as a parent to monitor what your kids are watching.
29:02
SPEAKER_07: Right.
29:03
SPEAKER_07: And listening to.
29:04
SPEAKER_05: Right.
29:04
SPEAKER_07: If you're letting your kids listen to Sam Smith, then I don't know.
29:08
SPEAKER_07: You're a bad parent.
29:09
SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't know about that.
29:10
SPEAKER_07: I don't because you can't control everything that you're talking about.
29:14
SPEAKER_05: Right, but it uh and and and I don't think a lot of what Sam Smith does is bad, is evil.
29:20
SPEAKER_05: I mean he's got he's got some good music.
29:22
SPEAKER_05: And that song, the body shop, that's that's Sam Smith.
29:28
SPEAKER_05: That song is called Unholy, but it's like I I I found dad out in the body shop doing something unholy, you know, or something like that.
29:36
SPEAKER_05: So it's it's it's definitely adult themes.
29:39
SPEAKER_05: So you know that particular song.
29:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
29:41
SPEAKER_05: People listen to it for the melody and and things like that.
29:44
SPEAKER_05: But um I think in general, Sam Smith doesn't have a lot of like bad music, like evil music or anything like that.
29:54
SPEAKER_07: I don't know him anybody.
29:55
SPEAKER_07: I know.
29:55
SPEAKER_07: But you know, I'm just everybody's freaking out about this thing.
29:58
SPEAKER_07: And it's like, well, what do you expect?
30:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:00
SPEAKER_07: Nobody's watching the Grammys, they're gonna do whatever it takes to get ratings.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
30:04
SPEAKER_07: That's all this is.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely right.
30:07
SPEAKER_07: It's just one big stupid stunt.
30:11
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
30:11
SPEAKER_07: And next year they're gonna do something else with somebody else.
30:15
SPEAKER_07: Yep.
30:15
SPEAKER_07: Just to get ratings until, you know, just you know, to make themselves feel good because they really don't give a freaking flying crap about music.
30:23
SPEAKER_05: I wholeheartedly agree.
30:25
SPEAKER_05: So um so the other thing is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
30:32
SPEAKER_05: We we teased it last week because we did we did the um podcast before they announced the nominees.
30:40
SPEAKER_05: Now we should preface this by saying before they released the nominees, they put out a new mission statement for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
30:50
SPEAKER_07: Which means that Why does the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame need a mission statement?
30:54
SPEAKER_07: Is it their mission is to put people into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
30:58
SPEAKER_05: Well, they changed it to be more, you know, inclusive.
31:04
SPEAKER_07: Of what?
31:05
SPEAKER_05: Of people that shaped rock and roll.
31:08
SPEAKER_05: Now listen, because I am currently taking a college class, uh, and it's a kind of a uh an easy class for for for me, and it's um ABCs?
31:19
SPEAKER_05: It's r it's rock history.
31:20
SPEAKER_05: Okay and the very first, you know, um module if you because I'm doing it online, right, was you know, like um bebop and and jazz and um swing and w western swing and all in country music and blues and all these things that all together shaped what rock and roll became.
31:45
SPEAKER_05: Because rock I mean, Elvis's first hit was a was an old blues style.
31:51
SPEAKER_05: A blues, but it was also he did it in like a bluegrass style.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: Right.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: Well, that's all right.
31:56
SPEAKER_04: Right.
31:56
SPEAKER_04: That's all right.
31:58
SPEAKER_05: So yes, it i rock and roll has lots of different influences.
32:05
SPEAKER_05: So the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame put out a statement saying, Well, we want to include all of those influences.
32:09
SPEAKER_05: Well then change the frickin' name of the Hall of Fame.
32:14
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, call it like music hall of fame.
32:16
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
32:16
SPEAKER_05: Something because let's talk about these nominees this year.
32:24
SPEAKER_05: And and some of them I don't really have a problem with.
32:28
SPEAKER_07: But some of them I haven't seen the whole list, so this will be Okay.
32:33
SPEAKER_07: I just know a few names.
32:35
SPEAKER_07: Cheryl Crowe.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
32:40
SPEAKER_05: I don't care either.
32:41
SPEAKER_05: I mean, she's i it's been 25 years.
32:43
SPEAKER_05: She qualifies.
32:45
SPEAKER_05: You know, she's she's she's uh um very successful.
32:49
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
32:50
SPEAKER_05: Um lots of hits.
32:52
SPEAKER_05: Not that that's you know one of the prerequisites, but she's had a wonderful career.
32:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, oh yeah.
32:59
SPEAKER_05: And yeah, um I think at some point deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
33:04
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
33:04
SPEAKER_05: Whether it's this year or not, I don't care.
33:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
33:07
SPEAKER_05: You know, that doesn't, you know.
33:09
SPEAKER_05: Um Missy Elliott.
33:13
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
33:16
SPEAKER_07: Rap artist.
33:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:17
SPEAKER_05: She's been around for a long time.
33:18
SPEAKER_05: She has, and it was just a matter of time.
33:22
SPEAKER_05: You kind of almost changed my mind on hip hop and rap artists going in the Rock and the Hall of Fame because rock has always been about rebellion.
33:32
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
33:33
SPEAKER_05: And rap is not only is rap about rebellion, but it's basically folk music.
33:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
33:41
SPEAKER_05: You know?
33:41
SPEAKER_07: In a in a in a way, right?
33:43
SPEAKER_05: In a in a way, yeah.
33:44
SPEAKER_05: Um and it's RB.
33:47
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, oh yeah.
33:48
SPEAKER_05: Right?
33:49
SPEAKER_05: Very much so.
33:50
SPEAKER_05: So although I don't really like the idea of Missy Elliott going to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, whatever.
33:57
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I get it.
33:58
SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm not like and you know, whatever.
34:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:01
SPEAKER_05: Joy Division, New Order.
34:04
SPEAKER_05: And I think they uh because the the members of New Order are are the same as in Joy Division, something like that.
34:11
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it's a weird yeah.
34:13
SPEAKER_05: Um I don't know that I'd put them in the Rocket Roll.
34:17
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
34:18
SPEAKER_05: It's a New Wave band.
34:20
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, a new wave band.
34:21
SPEAKER_07: They've always had their own, they've always been on the fringes of everything.
34:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:24
SPEAKER_05: Um I I I guess I'm okay.
34:27
SPEAKER_05: I mean, you know, whatever.
34:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
34:28
SPEAKER_05: I I can think of I would have put Foreigner and Bad Freaking Company in the Rocket Roll Hall of Fame before I'd put New Order in.
34:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, just because they're not, you know, like you've like you've said, just because they're nominated doesn't mean they're gonna go in.
34:39
SPEAKER_05: True.
34:40
SPEAKER_07: So but they're just they haven't even been nominated.
34:43
SPEAKER_01: Peter Frampton hasn't been nominated.
34:46
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, uh that makes no sense.
34:49
SPEAKER_05: Cindy Lopper.
34:50
SPEAKER_07: Alright, I get that.
34:52
SPEAKER_05: It's a pop star.
34:53
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
34:55
SPEAKER_05: George Michael.
34:57
SPEAKER_07: He's dead, but yeah, I guess he can go in still.
35:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean posthumously, yeah.
35:03
SPEAKER_05: And I love George Michael.
35:05
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
35:06
SPEAKER_05: He's not he's not rock and roll.
35:10
SPEAKER_05: Pop music, even though he did a great version of uh the Queen song there.
35:13
SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, that's right.
35:15
SPEAKER_05: Somebody to love.
35:16
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's I loved George Michael, he was great.
35:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:18
SPEAKER_05: Um I'm not sure I put him in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
35:21
SPEAKER_05: But if it was the music hall of fame, absolutely put him in.
35:25
SPEAKER_05: Music.
35:26
SPEAKER_05: Music Hall of Fame.
35:27
SPEAKER_05: Willie Nelson.
35:28
SPEAKER_07: Why?
35:29
SPEAKER_07: Are they putting country people into the freaking rock and roll hall of fame?
35:32
SPEAKER_05: And Eddie Trunk was was was um kind of belly aching about this whole too, as he as he is wont to do.
35:38
SPEAKER_05: And they and he had a good point.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: And this is the only the only time uh this podcast I'm gonna mention him again because this point was fantastic.
35:47
SPEAKER_05: Is the country music hall of fame putting rock artists in?
35:52
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
35:53
SPEAKER_05: Is the hip hop hall of fame well did they put Elvis in?
35:57
SPEAKER_05: Well, he started as a as a as a hillbilly, yeah.
36:01
SPEAKER_05: True.
36:02
SPEAKER_05: Um is the hip hop hall of fame putting in rock and roll artists?
36:07
SPEAKER_07: Not that I know of.
36:08
SPEAKER_05: Right.
36:08
SPEAKER_05: Why is the rock and roll hall of fame putting in country artists?
36:11
SPEAKER_07: I have no idea.
36:12
SPEAKER_07: I still not figure this out.
36:13
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
36:14
SPEAKER_05: Now, not to take away anything from Willie Nelson.
36:16
SPEAKER_05: No, he deserves to be in a Hall of Fame.
36:18
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
36:19
SPEAKER_07: Why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
36:20
SPEAKER_05: He deserved to be in the music hall of fame for sure.
36:24
SPEAKER_05: Uh white stripes.
36:26
SPEAKER_07: Why?
36:27
unknown: Exactly.
36:28
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I mean, I've nothing personally against white stripes, but I I like their music or most of it.
36:34
SPEAKER_05: I yeah.
36:36
SPEAKER_05: Before Bad Company?
36:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I I just don't get it.
36:40
SPEAKER_05: Before um we we had this discussion last week of who's not in or hasn't never been nominated.
36:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
36:47
SPEAKER_05: You know?
36:48
SPEAKER_05: So uh well, Warren Zevon.
36:52
SPEAKER_05: Warren Zevon, posthumously, of course.
36:54
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
36:54
SPEAKER_05: I would put him in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
36:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
36:56
SPEAKER_05: Wasn't he nominated?
36:57
SPEAKER_05: He was.
36:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay.
36:58
SPEAKER_05: Yep, he was nominated this year.
37:00
SPEAKER_05: And of course, returning nominees.
37:02
SPEAKER_05: So so those ones that I just listed?
37:05
SPEAKER_05: First times.
37:05
SPEAKER_05: First times.
37:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:07
SPEAKER_05: First time nominee, and if they get in, bad company, foreigner, Peter Frampton, never even been nominated.
37:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:15
SPEAKER_07: That's crazy, dude.
37:17
SPEAKER_07: Just not right.
37:18
SPEAKER_05: Returning nominees, Kate Bush.
37:22
SPEAKER_05: Um Iron Maiden.
37:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:25
SPEAKER_07: No time.
37:26
SPEAKER_05: They don't care.
37:27
SPEAKER_05: No.
37:27
SPEAKER_05: They really don't care.
37:30
SPEAKER_07: I know.
37:31
SPEAKER_05: Rage Against the Machine.
37:33
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we talked about then.
37:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:35
SPEAKER_07: But uh yeah, I don't see it happening.
37:37
SPEAKER_05: Soundgarden.
37:38
SPEAKER_07: That should they should actually go in, to be honest with you.
37:41
SPEAKER_05: I think so too.
37:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:42
SPEAKER_05: Uh the Spinners and Spinners and A Tribe Called Quest.
37:49
SPEAKER_07: See, that's that's on the on the because it's not really rap and it's not rock, and it's what is it?
37:55
SPEAKER_07: It's kind of RB-ish.
37:58
SPEAKER_05: Right.
37:58
SPEAKER_05: Isn't there an RB Hall of Fame?
38:00
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
38:01
SPEAKER_07: I think there is.
38:02
SPEAKER_07: There could be.
38:03
SPEAKER_05: I know there's a hip hop hall of fame.
38:05
SPEAKER_05: There's a country music hall of fame.
38:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:07
SPEAKER_05: Um I really sound like I care about this more than I do.
38:14
SPEAKER_05: Um I just don't understand it.
38:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I just I don't yeah.
38:18
SPEAKER_07: I don't, you know.
38:20
SPEAKER_07: I don't understand why that what this thing with putting in country people into the rock and roll hall of fame.
38:25
SPEAKER_07: Don't get it.
38:26
SPEAKER_07: They got their own rock and roll hall of fame.
38:28
SPEAKER_05: Their own hall of fame.
38:28
SPEAKER_07: Their own hall of fame.
38:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:30
SPEAKER_07: Put them in that.
38:31
SPEAKER_05: Right.
38:31
SPEAKER_07: They'll be happy.
38:32
SPEAKER_05: Right.
38:33
SPEAKER_07: Everybody's happy.
38:35
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
38:36
SPEAKER_05: And if you are gonna continue to do this, change the friggin' change the name.
38:41
SPEAKER_05: American Music Hall of Fame.
38:43
SPEAKER_05: Well then if you say American music, then you can't put in like bad company.
38:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:49
SPEAKER_05: You know?
38:49
SPEAKER_05: Um can't put Rush in.
38:50
SPEAKER_05: Can't put Peter Frampton in.
38:52
SPEAKER_05: Can't put Rush in.
38:52
SPEAKER_05: Right.
38:53
SPEAKER_05: Can't put the Beatles in.
38:54
SPEAKER_05: So why don't you just call it music?
38:58
SPEAKER_07: Music Hall of Fame.
38:59
SPEAKER_05: The Music Hall of Fame.
39:00
SPEAKER_05: Or even if you changed it to um Yeah, I don't know.
39:06
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
39:07
SPEAKER_05: And there's people out there that are gonna hear this, or actually probably nobody will hear this, but a few people will.
39:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, a few people will.
39:14
SPEAKER_05: That will say, why do you have to be so like um it's just music.
39:21
SPEAKER_05: Why why do you have to be so disjointed and so, you know, f you know, uh break things off into genres and things like that?
39:28
SPEAKER_05: It's not really about that.
39:29
SPEAKER_05: It's about you know the founders of like like I mean the when you say rock and roll, Alan Freed was the one that coined the term rock and roll.
39:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
39:42
SPEAKER_05: And that was when you had people like Buddy Holly and a a certain type of music.
39:49
SPEAKER_05: Now Buddy Holly, of course, you know, Buddy Holly made some some hillbilly things too.
39:54
SPEAKER_07: Um well he was kind of a rockabilly guy.
39:56
SPEAKER_05: It was he was rockabilly for sure.
39:58
SPEAKER_05: But the T keyword there is rock a billy, yeah, you know?
40:02
SPEAKER_05: And you know, I don't know.
40:04
SPEAKER_05: I it just doesn't sit well with me.
40:06
SPEAKER_05: And I'm not losing sleep over it, for sure, but I just don't understand it.
40:11
SPEAKER_07: I just like to complain about it.
40:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
40:12
SPEAKER_07: To be honest with you.
40:13
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I really don't give a crap.
40:15
SPEAKER_05: Stentler and Waldorf.
40:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I just like to complain about it.
40:17
SPEAKER_08: It gives us something to go but we are right.
40:22
SPEAKER_07: Of course we're right.
40:24
SPEAKER_07: We have a podcast, of course we're right.
40:26
SPEAKER_07: Right.
40:27
SPEAKER_05: All right, a couple other pieces of business here.
40:30
SPEAKER_05: Um Frontiers Records.
40:33
SPEAKER_05: Who uh I I saw an ad for a compilation that's coming out.
40:38
SPEAKER_05: This and this goes along with what we were talking about um either last podcast or the podcast before.
40:44
SPEAKER_05: We were talking about John Bon Jovi, how he can't sing anymore, and they re-recorded.
40:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh, and uh U2 is coming out with the Right.
40:52
SPEAKER_05: Right, with the and they re-recorded things in a lower key and things like that.
40:56
SPEAKER_05: So there's a new album coming out.
40:59
SPEAKER_05: Um and it's the same type of thing, but I want to know if you would buy this.
41:09
SPEAKER_05: Um hold on, because I have to plug in the sound so that you can hear it.
41:16
SPEAKER_05: Because that'll that's important.
41:18
SPEAKER_05: So okay.
41:23
SPEAKER_09: What's happening?
41:24
SPEAKER_09: I gotta try to bring the speakers on that.
41:28
SPEAKER_07: That was scary.
41:30
SPEAKER_07: All right.
41:31
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna I'm gonna type something into AI about being scared.
41:36
SPEAKER_05: Okay, see if you can recognize this and if you would buy this.
42:17
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, you said that.
42:19
SPEAKER_07: Who's playing with him?
42:20
SPEAKER_07: Who's playing with him?
42:21
SPEAKER_07: Uh we know it's gonna be Obrana.
42:24
SPEAKER_07: Nope.
42:28
SPEAKER_05: It's Mike Tramp, Marcus Nand on guitars, Klaus Langaskop on bass, Alan Haja on drum, Sebastian Rossett on keyboard, and Christopher Jairn on harmony.
42:47
SPEAKER_07: So basically it's Mike Tramp and some Vikings.
42:49
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: I know and I'm not saying it's bad, it's not bad.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: No, it's not bad.
43:06
SPEAKER_07: But it doesn't have that white line to it.
43:10
SPEAKER_05: Well, here's my question.
43:14
SPEAKER_05: No disrespect to my train.
43:19
SPEAKER_05: Why would you buy this?
43:20
SPEAKER_05: Because if you like the first album, you have those songs in their original keys with Vito Brata on them.
43:30
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
43:34
SPEAKER_07: Why does it keep sway- is this is not a this is a teaser.
43:37
SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
43:37
SPEAKER_07: That makes sense.
43:38
SPEAKER_07: This is a teaser.
43:43
SPEAKER_07: No, no.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: It's it's just like a commercial.
43:45
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
43:46
SPEAKER_05: Very good.
43:47
SPEAKER_05: Um But you have the original with Vito Brotto playing guitar.
43:51
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
43:53
SPEAKER_05: Why would you buy an album of the same songs with a Lesser band and Mike Tramp not singing you know you know singing in a lower key.
44:09
SPEAKER_07: I mean what is the what is the The only thing I can think of is nostalgia.
44:15
SPEAKER_07: But you have the you have the album.
44:17
SPEAKER_07: I I I realize that, but I don't I don't know.
44:19
SPEAKER_07: Maybe you wanna uh I don't know.
44:21
SPEAKER_05: Support Mike Tramp?
44:22
SPEAKER_07: Sure.
44:23
SPEAKER_05: And there's and that's like white lion.
44:25
SPEAKER_05: There's nothing wrong with that.
44:26
SPEAKER_07: No.
44:27
SPEAKER_05: Um I'm not gonna get it.
44:28
SPEAKER_05: I'm not eat I'm not either.
44:30
SPEAKER_05: This is by the way, it's it's called Songs of White Lion.
44:40
SPEAKER_11: Stand up and cry for freedom.
44:44
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, this is way worse than the original.
44:56
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, this is burnum.
45:00
SPEAKER_11: Just it's just and again, it's not bad.
45:05
SPEAKER_07: No, it's it's I mean, musician musicianship-wise, it's good.
45:09
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but it just doesn't have the edge.
45:14
SPEAKER_07: I just I'm trying to understand the It's like somebody's imitating it's Mike Tramp imitating himself.
45:20
SPEAKER_07: Well, here's and what it feels like, and here's the thing.
45:23
SPEAKER_05: If I if I think about this, Mike Tramp still has a career to think about.
45:31
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
45:33
SPEAKER_05: He could be putting this out to let people know what to expect when they come see him in concert.
45:41
SPEAKER_05: Because he can't sing the way he used to.
45:44
SPEAKER_05: You know, so this is his like if you're gonna come see Mike Tramp and I do White Lion, this is what it's gonna sound like now.
45:51
SPEAKER_05: Sorry.
45:52
SPEAKER_05: I mean, hopefully you like these this way.
45:54
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
45:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
45:56
SPEAKER_07: So that makes sense.
45:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, from that perspective, I get it.
46:00
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
46:01
SPEAKER_05: Um, because if you were going to see Mike Tramp in concert expecting old White Lion, and then you're gonna be disappointed.
46:08
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, yeah.
46:09
SPEAKER_05: But if you go expecting this, something that he can do, okay.
46:14
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you're you're at least prepared for it.
46:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:17
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
46:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I get that.
46:18
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I so I think that's I don't know if that if that was his intention or not, but uh I I I don't know.
46:24
SPEAKER_07: Let's give it to him.
46:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well that's I'm gonna have to I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that's why.
46:29
SPEAKER_06: I hope so.
46:29
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, me too.
46:30
SPEAKER_05: I hope that was it.
46:31
SPEAKER_05: Um and on another note before we go on to um the uh Legends Alphabet.
46:39
SPEAKER_05: I wanted to share this.
46:40
SPEAKER_05: I know you've seen it.
46:41
SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm pretty sure you've seen it.
46:42
SPEAKER_05: Uh but I wanted to get your reaction.
46:44
SPEAKER_05: Michael Sweet shared a list.
46:48
SPEAKER_05: Did you see this?
46:50
SPEAKER_05: Michael Sweet, lead singer striper.
46:53
SPEAKER_05: Shared a list of it's one of those, you know, Facebook things where you, you know, favorite food next to the next year.
46:59
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
47:00
SPEAKER_05: Did you see his least favorite band?
47:01
SPEAKER_07: No, I didn't I didn't get that far.
47:03
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so his favorite metal band is Judas Priest?
47:06
SPEAKER_05: I knew that.
47:07
SPEAKER_05: Least favorite metal band.
47:09
SPEAKER_05: Any idea?
47:10
SPEAKER_06: Stryper?
47:11
SPEAKER_06: Nope.
47:12
SPEAKER_07: That'd be funny.
47:16
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not striper.
47:17
SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't know.
47:19
SPEAKER_05: Metallica.
47:20
SPEAKER_05: Really?
47:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:21
SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
47:22
SPEAKER_05: I'm just curious as to what your thoughts were on that.
47:24
SPEAKER_05: And and and somebody, I will say, made a comment.
47:29
SPEAKER_05: Uh of course I'm not gonna be able to find it now.
47:34
SPEAKER_05: But um Michael Sweet had a uh he felt the urge to uh clarify what he had why he had put them on there.
47:42
SPEAKER_05: Sure.
47:43
SPEAKER_05: Because somebody said, um, I like your swipe at Metallica.
47:48
SPEAKER_05: You know, and went on a little bit.
47:50
SPEAKER_05: And then Michael Sweet came on and he said, Swipe?
47:53
SPEAKER_05: Question mark.
47:54
SPEAKER_05: He says, No, I have nothing against Metallica, I just I never got into them.
47:59
SPEAKER_07: That's understandable.
48:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
48:00
SPEAKER_05: So I just thought it was interesting that they were his least favorite metal band.
48:04
SPEAKER_05: And maybe it's just because of their popularity.
48:09
SPEAKER_05: You know, everybody loves Metallica.
48:11
SPEAKER_05: Um, and he just doesn't.
48:13
SPEAKER_07: It could be.
48:14
SPEAKER_07: I mean, you know, I'm you know, a lot of people like Iron Maiden.
48:17
SPEAKER_07: I'm not a huge Iron Maiden fan.
48:19
SPEAKER_05: True.
48:19
SPEAKER_05: You know, nor nor am I.
48:21
SPEAKER_05: I dig 'em and I appreciate them.
48:22
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, but that's you know.
48:24
SPEAKER_07: So maybe it's along that line.
48:25
SPEAKER_07: I get that.
48:26
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
48:27
SPEAKER_05: Um so anyway, this list was favorite food, favorite cologne, favorite car, favorite metal band, favorite underwear.
48:34
SPEAKER_05: Why would I favorite snack, favorite whiskey, favorite candy, favorite show, favorite movie, favorite shoes, favorite pet, favorite light bulb, and favorite store.
48:46
SPEAKER_05: Is he bored?
48:47
SPEAKER_05: It's not it was uh I think that he filled in the blanks.
48:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
48:50
SPEAKER_05: And then they have your least favorite food, least favorite cologne, blah blah blah blah.
48:54
SPEAKER_05: So his uh uh least or his favorite movie was Breakfast Club, least favorite movie was Staying Alive.
49:01
SPEAKER_05: Interesting also, his favorite show is Shark Tank.
49:03
SPEAKER_05: His least favorite show is Friends.
49:07
SPEAKER_07: I think Mr.
49:08
SPEAKER_05: Michael Sweet has just, you know, if it's popular, he doesn't like it.
49:12
SPEAKER_05: You know, because friends friends of Metallica, come on.
49:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's no friend of Metallica.
49:19
SPEAKER_05: Uh his favorite light bulb is all light bulbs, and his least favorite light bulb is none.
49:24
SPEAKER_07: Interesting.
49:25
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
49:25
SPEAKER_07: Well, that's that's that's deep.
49:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it is.
49:28
SPEAKER_07: I I don't know.
49:29
SPEAKER_05: I just wanted to get your reaction as a huge Metallica fan and a huge Michael Sweet fan.
49:33
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
49:33
SPEAKER_05: Where you sit with that.
49:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I I have no problem with it because I I still like him.
49:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
49:37
SPEAKER_07: He's still my favorite guy.
49:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, me too.
49:39
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's one of my favorite guys, yeah, for sure.
49:41
SPEAKER_05: Uh he had a great interview with Eddie Trunk.
49:43
SPEAKER_05: Oh, did I say I wasn't going to mention Eddie Trunk anymore?
49:45
SPEAKER_05: Well, too late.
49:46
SPEAKER_05: Um because I listened to Eddie Trunk.
49:48
SPEAKER_05: I I I don't um I like the the content that Eddie Trunk, I mean the the interviews that he does.
49:55
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I really don't care for Eddie.
49:56
SPEAKER_07: I don't know.
49:57
SPEAKER_07: But I I do like, you know, his interviews.
49:59
SPEAKER_05: I don't know Eddie, so I can't really say I don't care for him, but um he's really uh fond of himself.
50:07
SPEAKER_07: Eddie Trunk is all about Eddie Trunk, yeah.
50:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
50:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
50:11
SPEAKER_07: I'm just it's it's just a matter of time before he starts referring to himself as a third person.
50:15
SPEAKER_05: Right.
50:15
SPEAKER_05: Nothing to take away what he's done from rock and roll and and and kept, you know, things going and k a platform for those artists and and everything, but you know, when when you say I'm doing a speaking show, speaking tour, and I'm going down uh and uh you know um the guys from the guys from winery dogs are gonna be there with me.
50:35
SPEAKER_05: Um if you want to see me on that speaking tour, dude, they're not going to see you.
50:40
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
50:40
SPEAKER_05: They're not going to see you.
50:41
SPEAKER_05: If you tell them the winery dogs are gonna be there, they're gonna see you.
50:44
SPEAKER_05: They're going to see the winery dogs.
50:45
SPEAKER_07: Exactly.
50:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
50:46
SPEAKER_05: That's all.
50:47
SPEAKER_07: Yes.
50:47
SPEAKER_05: You know.
50:48
SPEAKER_05: But he does that all the time.
50:50
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, that's you know.
50:51
SPEAKER_05: And and don't get me wrong, I mean, you can uh Eddie Trunki's never gonna listen to this podcast, and if he does, you know, Eddie, I like what you do.
50:58
SPEAKER_08: Hi, Eddie.
51:00
SPEAKER_05: Like I like what you do.
51:01
SPEAKER_05: Um that's about it.
51:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
51:04
SPEAKER_05: I have respect for you.
51:05
SPEAKER_05: I do.
51:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh and and what you've done for rock and roll.
51:08
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, just just back off then a little bit.
51:11
SPEAKER_07: You know.
51:11
SPEAKER_05: It's not about you.
51:12
SPEAKER_07: Copernicus called, you're not the center of the universe.
51:15
SPEAKER_07: So, you know.
51:17
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
51:18
SPEAKER_07: So Oh, speaking of the winery dogs.
51:21
SPEAKER_07: Yes, oh yes.
51:22
SPEAKER_07: I got the new album, and it is freaking awesome.
51:27
SPEAKER_05: I happened to have that because you had told me actually you you you said you put it in the thread that you got it, and it was really good.
51:37
SPEAKER_05: So I went and as soon as you came in, um, I actually had it already up.
51:42
SPEAKER_05: Oh, there you go.
51:43
SPEAKER_05: And uh I was I was I had listened to two songs or three songs.
51:48
SPEAKER_05: Let's see if I can get this going.
51:49
SPEAKER_07: Uh okay, you must have listened to the Xana do.
51:52
SPEAKER_07: I did.
51:53
SPEAKER_07: That's probably one of my favorite songs on there.
51:55
SPEAKER_07: So let's see if I can do this here.
51:58
SPEAKER_05: Uh is it going to play with my crappy internet?
52:04
SPEAKER_05: I actually uh messaged a guy about because remember I was supposed to have a fiber optic cable by the end of the summer.
52:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I I I I messaged him.
52:12
SPEAKER_08: I said, You have any idea where that stands?
52:15
SPEAKER_08: Uh no, I was just gonna find out about that actually.
52:22
SPEAKER_07: He's really going, crap, I forgot all about it.
52:26
SPEAKER_05: Right, exactly.
52:28
SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see.
52:30
SPEAKER_05: No, thanks.
52:31
SPEAKER_05: I want to do this.
52:32
SPEAKER_05: And let's just play whatever comes up here.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: This is Breakthrough.
52:37
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, this is a good one.
52:39
SPEAKER_07: Of course, this is one of those albums there's no bad songs on.
52:42
SPEAKER_05: Right.
52:43
SPEAKER_07: In my opinion.
52:45
SPEAKER_05: So Winery Dogs, of course, is Mike Portnoy on drums.
52:49
SPEAKER_05: Um Richie Cotson on vocals and guitar.
52:53
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
52:53
SPEAKER_05: And Billy Sheehan.
52:55
SPEAKER_05: Billy Sheehan on bass.
52:56
SPEAKER_07: I didn't know that Richie Cotson had played in Mr.
52:58
SPEAKER_07: Big.
52:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for not very long.
53:00
SPEAKER_05: Nah, a couple years.
53:02
SPEAKER_05: A couple years, yeah.
53:02
SPEAKER_05: For tours, basically.
53:04
SPEAKER_07: And speaking of Eddie Trunk, he's the reason that Richie Cotson's in the band.
53:09
SPEAKER_07: Because this is a project between Mike and Billy, and they had somebody else, and it fell through, and Eddie Trunk was like, hey, why didn't you call Richie Cotson?
53:19
SPEAKER_07: So, Eddie, good job.
53:21
SPEAKER_05: We're gonna have to.
53:23
SPEAKER_05: We said we weren't gonna talk about Eddie Trunk anymore.
53:26
SPEAKER_05: You said that.
53:27
SPEAKER_05: I didn't think that's just true.
53:28
SPEAKER_05: We're gonna have to work that into the title of this episode somehow.
53:53
SPEAKER_05: Now I have I have a love-hate relationship with Richie Cotz.
53:58
SPEAKER_05: I think he's a phenomenal guitar player.
54:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
54:01
SPEAKER_05: And plays with no pick, by the way.
54:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I really played that.
54:04
SPEAKER_05: And he plays a telecaster.
54:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
54:06
SPEAKER_05: The way he does, I mean it's unreal.
54:08
SPEAKER_05: It's it's fantastic.
54:10
SPEAKER_05: And I love his singing.
54:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's got a cool voice.
54:14
SPEAKER_05: Although just listening to him, I feel like he sings incorrectly.
54:20
SPEAKER_05: I feel like he's all throat.
54:24
SPEAKER_05: And it hurts me to listen sometimes.
54:26
SPEAKER_07: We should get uh what's your face the charismatic voice?
54:29
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
54:30
SPEAKER_05: You know, have her analyze his voice.
54:32
SPEAKER_05: Right.
54:33
SPEAKER_05: Let me see if I can get to a different song here, because I'm Mad World.
54:37
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
54:42
SPEAKER_05: But this is uh their third album, by the way.
54:44
SPEAKER_05: You know how I know?
54:45
SPEAKER_05: Because it's called Three?
54:46
SPEAKER_05: It's called Three.
54:47
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
54:49
SPEAKER_07: Why should they have an EP out called the Dog Ears?
54:52
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
54:52
SPEAKER_07: It's got like five or six songs on it.
54:54
SPEAKER_07: They do a version of uh Moon Age Day uh Moon Age Daydream.
54:57
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
55:02
SPEAKER_05: See, I was just thinking about this the other day.
55:04
SPEAKER_05: And I know I've expressed this before.
55:08
SPEAKER_05: I wish music like this got more radio play somewhere.
55:12
SPEAKER_05: I know, yeah.
55:13
SPEAKER_05: It's just straight up rock and roll.
55:14
SPEAKER_05: It's it's good rock and roll.
55:17
SPEAKER_07: And you know, there's there's there's when I listen to this album, there's there's elements of, you know, because Mike Portnoy has been in, you know, Dream Theater and Sons of Apollo, you know, all these prog rock bands.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:30
SPEAKER_07: Billy Sheenan and Richie Kotsner, you know, blues bass rock guys.
55:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
55:34
SPEAKER_07: But you can feel elements of both.
55:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
55:37
SPEAKER_05: For true songs.
55:39
SPEAKER_05: Um I like songs with melody.
55:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
55:44
SPEAKER_05: You know.
55:45
SPEAKER_07: They got a lot of that.
55:46
SPEAKER_05: My son and my son just got started, you know, he Eli was listening to just depressing music, uh, pop music that all sounded the same.
55:56
SPEAKER_05: And I always used to give him a hard time about it.
55:58
SPEAKER_05: Well, he's recently gotten into um bands like Shinedown and Theory of a Dead Man.
56:06
SPEAKER_05: And, you know, like modern rockish type bands.
56:10
SPEAKER_05: And while I'm happy about that, um, and there was there's nothing wrong with the music he was listening to, it's just depressing, and and the same it all sounds the same.
56:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:20
SPEAKER_05: He's been listening, and I never noticed I I guess no, I've noticed this before because I've talked about it before too.
56:25
SPEAKER_05: But so he's been listening to all these kind of modern-ish rock bands.
56:30
SPEAKER_05: They also all sound the same.
56:33
SPEAKER_05: You know, they have the same production, you know, same production value.
56:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:37
SPEAKER_05: Big, you know, big drums and and thick, you know, thick, like nickelback-ish.
56:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:42
SPEAKER_05: You know?
56:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:43
SPEAKER_05: Um, but this is this is just straight up rock with great melodies and I haven't got it yet.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: Although I don't really Billy's Jean looks me to his player.
57:18
SPEAKER_05: He does meet to.
57:20
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's amazing.
57:21
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, no.
57:22
SPEAKER_05: He's amazing, but I always you know how it's used to give Jane a hard time.
57:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, because the the bass is not a lead instrument.
57:28
SPEAKER_07: Not according to Billy Jean.
57:37
SPEAKER_00: And I don't like his tone.
57:39
SPEAKER_00: But Billy.
57:41
SPEAKER_00: It's it's very thin.
57:42
SPEAKER_00: But listen to that.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: You know, of course not.
57:54
SPEAKER_05: And I probably will get this album.
57:56
SPEAKER_05: Although, you know, I don't have the I don't have the second album.
57:59
SPEAKER_07: The second album is really good.
58:00
SPEAKER_07: I have the I have the first one.
58:02
SPEAKER_07: I think I think uh my favorite song off the second album is War Machine.
58:06
SPEAKER_05: Let me double check.
58:07
SPEAKER_05: Maybe I don't have the first album.
58:09
SPEAKER_05: Hold on, let's see.
58:11
SPEAKER_05: No, yeah, I have the first one.
58:13
SPEAKER_05: That came out in uh 2013.
58:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
58:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so I have that, but I don't have the second one.
58:18
SPEAKER_05: Second one's good.
58:19
SPEAKER_05: So hot streak.
58:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I might have to get that too.
58:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, my wife is gonna love me.
58:25
SPEAKER_05: Um So anyway, yeah, that's out.
58:28
SPEAKER_05: The new uh Go get it, man.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: The new winery dog.
58:30
SPEAKER_05: Awesome.
58:30
SPEAKER_05: Awesome.
58:31
SPEAKER_07: Uh the album is called My Three Favorite Songs Xanadu, The Vengeance, and Stars.
58:38
SPEAKER_05: Xanadu, The Vengeance, and Stars.
58:40
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
58:40
SPEAKER_07: Alright.
58:40
SPEAKER_07: Those are Doug's choices.
58:42
SPEAKER_07: Cool.
58:43
SPEAKER_04: So um let's do uh let's do this.
58:48
SPEAKER_04: Let's do stuff.
58:49
SPEAKER_04: Let's read stuff.
58:51
SPEAKER_04: It's tough.
58:51
SPEAKER_08: Hey everybody, we're gonna read stuff though.
58:54
SPEAKER_08: It's gonna be awesome.
58:55
SPEAKER_05: For the Country Legends Alphabet uh by Beck Finer.
58:59
SPEAKER_08: Hey Beck.
59:00
SPEAKER_05: Do you know what the letter of the day is?
59:01
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah, I do, but it's it is P because we did that stupid Jake Owen last week, which does not belong to Jack.
59:07
SPEAKER_05: Jake Owen socks.
59:08
SPEAKER_05: No, he doesn't.
59:09
SPEAKER_05: Nothing wrong with the with Jake Owen, and nothing wrong with his music.
59:12
SPEAKER_07: Okay, you could say that, but I'm gonna say Jake Owen socks!
59:15
SPEAKER_05: But he does not belong.
59:15
SPEAKER_08: I don't like you, Jake.
59:17
SPEAKER_05: He does not belong in the Country Legends alphabet book.
59:19
SPEAKER_07: Um like you Jake.
59:22
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so Country Legends.
59:24
SPEAKER_05: This one does belong in the Country Legends Alphabet book.
59:26
SPEAKER_05: And P.
59:27
SPEAKER_05: Any guesses?
59:28
SPEAKER_05: Last name.
59:31
SPEAKER_07: Charlie Price.
59:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh close.
59:33
SPEAKER_05: Charlie Pride.
59:34
SPEAKER_05: You were like, you were thinking Ray Price?
59:36
SPEAKER_07: Yes, I was.
59:37
SPEAKER_05: Ray Price.
59:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
59:38
SPEAKER_05: Charlie Pride.
59:39
SPEAKER_05: Charlie Pride.
59:40
SPEAKER_05: Excellent, man.
59:40
SPEAKER_05: P is for Charlie Pride with a distinctive voice that could send an ordinary song into the top ten.
59:46
SPEAKER_05: This performer took a white man's genre and made it his own.
59:51
SPEAKER_05: I got an issue with that.
59:52
SPEAKER_05: Me too.
59:53
SPEAKER_05: Me too.
59:53
SPEAKER_05: Picking cotton to buy his first guitar, Pride is one of the few African Americans to have made it in the country music industry.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure, you know, I don't know why you have to make it that.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_05: I know it was at the time when Charlie Pride first came out.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_07: At the time it was, it was pretty uh pretty impressive.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_05: It was.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_05: And it still is to this day.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_05: You hold him uh you hold him in high esteem because of that.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_05: But you know what?
1:00:18
SPEAKER_05: But he was a great singer.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_07: If you listen to Charlie Pride music, you can't tell if he was a music.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_07: Of course not.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_07: Of course not.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_05: You can't tell.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_05: No, he was great.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_05: He was awesome.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_05: Loved his music.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_05: Kiss an Angel Good Morning.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_05: Kiss an Angel Good Morning.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's a great song.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_05: And the Beatles legends alphabets in the weird letter P, so I'm gonna say.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_05: Paperback writer?
1:00:41
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_05: No, I'm gonna say Piggies.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna say it wouldn't be piggies, right?
1:00:48
SPEAKER_07: Uh I would have been surprised if it was piggies.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_05: Are you surprised by that?
1:00:53
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_05: What it is?
1:00:57
SPEAKER_05: Please, please be.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_05: Holy cow.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_05: What?
1:01:02
SPEAKER_07: Penny Lane.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_07: Strolling down old Penny Lane, the Beatles pay tribute to their childhood neighborhood in Liverpool, England.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_07: A place still in their ears and eyes.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_07: Sounds like an infection.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_07: You have Liverpoolitis.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_07: A place where people stop and say hello.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_07: A banker with a motor car.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_07: A fireman with an hourglass.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_07: There beneath the blue suburban skies.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_07: That was kind of sucky.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna be honest with you.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_07: Not your best work, Beck.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_07: Sorry.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_07: Not super impressed, man.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_05: Oh, let me close it.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_08: Close it out, man.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
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SPEAKER_04: There you go.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_04: Uh it is time now to jump back.
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SPEAKER_09: Jump!
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SPEAKER_05: Climb the wall of tunes.
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SPEAKER_05: Alright.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_05: And while I do that.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna read out of the hip hop ninja.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_07: Alright, I'm taking the headphones off right now.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_07: I'm looking for P.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_07: There it is.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_07: I have no idea who this is.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_07: Oh, I guess I do.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_07: P is for Fife Dog.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_07: A founding member of a tribe called Quest.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_07: We were just talking about them.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_07: The Five Foot Assassin.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_00: You're right.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_00: You can't talk.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_07: I cannot.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_07: The Five Foot Assassin was small in stature but huge in influence.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_07: Fife and the rest of his tribe are one of Hip Hop's most respected groups and helped popularize an alternative style that incorporated jazz sounds.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_07: So there you go.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_07: Who was it again?
1:04:56
SPEAKER_07: Fife Dog.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_07: Fife Dog.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_07: Who are nominees for the rock and roll.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_07: Oh, that's right.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_07: Hall of Fame.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_07: Good point.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_07: So it was ironic.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_07: A little too ironic, don't you think?
1:05:13
SPEAKER_07: It's a black fly in your Chardonnay.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_05: Uh okay.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_05: So I think we've done this artist before.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I'm sure we have.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_05: Um but I'm not sure we've done this album.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_05: It's Dawkins.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_05: Maybe maybe we have.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_05: Uh no, but I have an album, so let the guessing begin.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_05: It's Dawkins.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_05: So is it Dawkins?
1:05:36
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_05: Is Don Dawkins is that his real name, you think?
1:05:40
SPEAKER_05: Who?
1:05:40
SPEAKER_05: Don Docken.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_07: I'm sure.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_05: You think so?
1:05:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_05: You don't think he did it just because it rhymes with Rockin'?
1:05:44
SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_07: I wouldn't put it past him, but I haven't I haven't seen evidence contrary to that is his real name.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_07: So I don't know.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_05: Dawkins just seems like a we I've never heard of anybody last name Dawkins besides him.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_05: Maybe he's the only one on the planet.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_05: Rockin'.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_07: Maybe rockin' dockin'.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_07: Hey, that's got Don Dockin.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_07: Don Rockin' Dockin.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_07: Right, that's what I'm saying.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_05: Don Rockin' Dockin.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_05: I think it's a made-up name.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_07: Hey, good, bro.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_07: I think it's Steve's name.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_07: I don't know where you came up with it, but you know, maybe it's a Wait, we have the technology.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna say uh Wikipedia the dude.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_07: Do you think that well, let's see.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_07: Real name, Steve Michaels.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_07: If it's something stupid, I'm gonna be really bad.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it says no, Donald Maynard Dawkins.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_01: Really?
1:06:29
SPEAKER_01: That's his real name.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_01: Apparently.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_05: Maynard is his middle name?
1:06:32
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_08: Oh, cool.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_05: I bet you it's Don Dawkins Maynard.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_06: Don Dawkins Maynard.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, no, this is.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_05: I mean, if Wikipedia's right, you know.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, that's that's up for debate, but anyway.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_05: True.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so it's not Dockin.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_07: It's not Dawkins.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_07: One million down.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_07: Um so is it a band or is it a uh solo artist?
1:06:58
SPEAKER_05: It's a band.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_07: It's a band.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_07: Is it a rock band or is it a country band?
1:07:02
SPEAKER_07: Is it a jazz band?
1:07:03
SPEAKER_05: Is it a uh rock?
1:07:06
SPEAKER_05: Pop rock band.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_05: Pop rock band.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_07: Go ahead and say rock band.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_07: Is it nickelback?
1:07:12
SPEAKER_07: No.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_07: Okay, good.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_07: Otherwise, this game was gonna be over.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_07: And I'm just gonna end the podcast.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna walk out that door.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_07: Do you have any nickelback albums?
1:07:21
SPEAKER_05: I do.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_05: Really?
1:07:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_05: Well, I have like the greatest hits.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_07: Um, okay.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_07: I almost grabbed that too.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_07: So it's not nickelback.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_05: It's not nickelback.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_07: Okay, good joke.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_07: But it's a pop rock type ish.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_07: Uh height of popularity.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_07: 80s.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_07: 80s, okay.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_05: Is it Survivor?
1:07:41
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_05: This album that I chose is only a few years old.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_06: Like a resurgence type thing?
1:07:49
SPEAKER_07: Like a frontier record type thing.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_07: No.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_07: No, it's not it's not hard rock.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_07: It's not hard rock, it's pop rock.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_07: Pop rock.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_05: Twenty few years old.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_05: The the latest, this one that I just chose.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_07: Is it Devo?
1:08:07
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_07: Do you have any Devo?
1:08:10
SPEAKER_05: I don't have any Devo, actually.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_07: Pop rock.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_07: Oh, while I'm thinking of it, I heard a funny uh conspiracy theory about Chicago.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_07: Squirrel.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_07: I don't know how true this is, but somebody out there believes that the horn section from Chicago is actually a hit squad.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_05: What do you mean a hit squad?
1:08:35
SPEAKER_07: Like a assassins?
1:08:37
SPEAKER_07: Why?
1:08:38
SPEAKER_07: I have no idea.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_07: I didn't I didn't dive into it because I'm like, that's just stupid.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_07: Wow.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_07: It's the funniest thing ever.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_07: That's a bit of a reason.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_07: It's really funny, but it was just like that's so stupid.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_07: It's not, it can't even be true.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_08: Um okay.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_07: Uh let me think.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_07: So any like iconic songs?
1:09:01
SPEAKER_07: I think so.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_07: Uh any virtuosos in the band?
1:09:05
SPEAKER_07: Uh no.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_07: No?
1:09:06
SPEAKER_07: No.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_05: So just some like I will say it's uh so-and-so and it's me first and the gimme gimme's.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_07: Nope.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_07: Great band name, though.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_07: I like those guys.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_07: Um is it Huey Lewis in the news?
1:09:20
SPEAKER_07: It is.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_05: Ah, nice! You thought 80s and you thought so-and-so and the so it's gotta be Huey Lewis and the news.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_05: It's gonna be Huey Lewis in the news.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_05: It is, it is Huey Lewis in the news.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_05: Nice! Um I love Huey Lewis.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_07: So what's what's cool about this is Um You know, he he's actually kind of timeless.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_05: He is timeless.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_05: Um unfortunately, we and we probably talked about this too, that he's got this hearing thing.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_05: This hearing issue where he can't uh perform anymore.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_05: Um combination of of of tinnitus and something else, but it's just like Well, I mean it's years of control, man.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_05: And so he's he's virtually deaf.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he can't so much so that he can't perform.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_05: He can't hear himself.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_05: He can't, you know, he can't hit the notes and everything.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_05: But so what this is is it's their latest album, which came out how I say Well, it's it's it says Huey Lewis the News, but he's the only one on the cover.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_07: Oh, there's the rest of the band.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, on the back there.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_07: I didn't I didn't like them being left out.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_07: I mean he's got the golden gate bridge behind.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_05: Huey Lewis and the News.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_05: And the news.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that makes sense.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_05: Um these were songs, so so they had put out some songs in the 90s, and I think even early 2000s, uh, some some albums um that were hearkening back to their influences.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_05: They did a they did an album called Plan B, which is all like R and B type stuff that they loved, but they're that they wrote.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_05: Um and they did another covers album, like a s a soul album.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_05: Uh I have it, I can't remember what the name of it is off the top of my head.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_05: But anyway.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_05: After that one, there was a long stretch where they didn't put anything out.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_05: But while they were taking a break, anytime they would have a song and they would get together, they would record it.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_05: And so and then and then Huey Lewis got this thing where he can't perform anymore.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_05: So they got all of those songs that they recorded together.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_05: There's only seven songs on this album.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_05: And I just let's put them out.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_05: Let's put you know, put these songs out.
1:11:37
SPEAKER_05: And he did a uh huge promotional um press junket about this album, had a great interview with uh um Eddie Trunk?
1:11:45
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_05: No, it wasn't Eddie Trunk.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_07: Um would Eddie Trunk ever interview Huey Lewis?
1:11:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I guarantee you.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_05: Okay, I just got a great thing.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_05: He's Eddie Trunk is into hard rock, you know, and heavy metal, but I'm sure he appreciates Huey Lewis.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_05: Okay, yeah.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if he he probably not in his show, I guess.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_07: No, probably not, but I mean, you know, he's got a certain reputation, but um but it was uh no, it was Questlove.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_05: Questlove has a podcast.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_05: Really?
1:12:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_05: I love Questlove.
1:12:22
SPEAKER_05: And the podcast is so cool.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_05: It's good.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's got a like his whole entourage with him, and they did an interview with Huey Lewis, which is riveting.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah because the stories that Huey Lewis told in this interview.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_05: Um I can't remember what Quest Love's podcast is called, but look it up and look up the Huey Lewis episode because it's while you're talking, I wanna look at it.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_05: It's pretty fantastic.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_05: And Huey Lewis tal talks about how he hiked across Europe and then ended up in Marrakesh and was doing was was like playing harmonica in the street, and it was uh it was it's just amazing storytelling.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_05: Um but anyway, they put this album out and they called it Weather because you had news, sports, and weather.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_06: Quest love supreme.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_05: Look, if you can find the Huey Lewis episode, listen to that at some point.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_05: So But this is you know, this isn't your 80s pop Huey Lewis.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_07: Um why Taylor Hawkins was not included in the 2023 Grammy anymore.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_05: Oh I didn't really watch it, so I wasn't sure.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_05: Did it say why?
1:13:37
SPEAKER_05: You're reading the article as fast as you can.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_07: I'm just trying to really quickly, not Taylor Hawkins.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_07: I'm sorry, I just happened to see it, and I was like, whoa, that's interesting.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_07: Oh, he was because he was in last year's segment.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_07: Because he died right before the Grammys last year.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_07: Oh, that makes sense.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_07: Almost a year, man, last March.
1:14:06
unknown: Wow.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_05: Yep, that's crazy.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_05: Um okay, I'm gonna play a couple of these.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_05: Yes, absolutely.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_10: Do you remember when not so long ago?
1:14:46
SPEAKER_10: All we had, and the future was the last thing on a what a time.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_10: Now here we are getting older, wondering what will be.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_10: Life is short.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_10: Let's take advantage of every opportunity.
1:15:18
SPEAKER_09: While we are some fun.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_05: You know, it's interesting in the 80s and even probably early 90s when they were worried about having hits on the radio.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_05: And then they there was a turn there where when they did that um four chords and several years ago where they did all those covers from the 60s.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_05: And they had a couple hits off it actually.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_05: Watch you time, and it was obvious that that's the kind of music they enjoy.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_05: And then they put out the rhythm uh album, the Plan B, which was stuff like um tell the kids will be right there.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_05: It's it's so influenced by the old stuff.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, right.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_10: I love my wife.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_05: It's like I don't care anymore about hits.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, why not?
1:16:35
SPEAKER_05: You know?
1:16:40
SPEAKER_05: This is another one from Weather.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_07: What's the name?
1:16:45
SPEAKER_07: I thought it was Plan B.
1:16:46
SPEAKER_05: No, that was Plan B.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_05: That was I just played.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_05: So the first one I played is called What is From Weather.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_05: Second one I played was from Plan B.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_00: This is Back from Weather.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_00: This is the album I chose.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_08: Okay, okay.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_00: So this is called Hurry Back, baby.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna lie to you.
1:17:05
SPEAKER_10: Cause I'm an honest man.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_05: But again, hearkening back to 60s R ⁇ B and Soul and Yeah, absolutely.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_04: And you know they've always had that.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_07: It's like a it's like a combination of Motown and the Philly town.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
1:17:31
SPEAKER_04: They've always had that.
1:17:32
SPEAKER_04: Even in their their 80s hit songs, there's always been some sort of somewhere somewhere some bit of that.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_05: You know?
1:17:42
SPEAKER_05: I like this one.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_05: Remind me why I love you again.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_10: You don't cook and you won't clean it.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_10: Spicy food.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_10: You like part of the country.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_10: I like with the man blue.
1:18:14
SPEAKER_10: Tell me why I love you again.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_10: Ha! Right.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_10: Great song.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_05: Uh her love is killing me.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_05: It's oh 60s RB.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_05: Oh 70s RB.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_05: But I really like it.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_05: Came out uh 2020.
1:18:41
SPEAKER_05: In the midst of the pandemic.
1:18:44
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_00: But they obviously couldn't tour behind it.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_10: Right, so they can.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_10: Right.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_10: It's gonna make me.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_05: And they actually have a country song on here.
1:19:05
SPEAKER_04: Really?
1:19:07
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, this is pretty girls everywhere.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_07: This is a very like old school rock.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_10: Everywhere I go, that's a pretty girl, yeah.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_04: Right?
1:19:20
SPEAKER_10: Everywhere I go.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_10: Let's be a pretty good doo-wop almost.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:19:27
unknown: Pretty girl.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_10: Like the pretty girl, pretty girl.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_05: Like the coasters and the nobody's doing that.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_05: I think it's awesome.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_05: This is I think this is the country one.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_07: Sounds very country.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_05: It's called One of the Boys.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_07: That's country.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_01: It's more country than Luke Brian.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_01: It's more country than everything that's on country already.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_10: Pretty much.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_10: We back when I must have been nine or ten.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_10: I mean it's not the greatest, right?
1:20:00
SPEAKER_10: But it's my very first man.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_10: Playing a little bit.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I know.
1:20:07
SPEAKER_10: Immediately, that's where I wanted to be.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_10: With them boys up on the stand.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_10: Playing in a hockey top man, one of the boys.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_10: Making beautiful noise.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_10: Playing with my friends.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_10: Till the music ends.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_05: They've always had a hand in country music as well.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_05: Back in uh 83 when they put out sports.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_05: You remember?
1:20:39
SPEAKER_05: This is on sports.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_05: Isn't it?
1:20:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:20:42
SPEAKER_05: The hunky tongue blues.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_06: I haven't heard this forever.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, I love Huey Lewis and the news.
1:21:08
SPEAKER_05: And you know, I I listened to them before I listen to half of what's on the radio these days.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:21:13
SPEAKER_05: So that's uh No Doubt, man.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_05: That was uh uh No, I like No Doubt too.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_05: I like that um So that came out in 2020, Huey Lewis in the news.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_05: It's called Weather.
1:21:23
SPEAKER_05: I actually have the deluxe edition, which is you know, they didn't think they could sell a Huey Lewis album in 2020 with only seven songs on it, so they paired it up with a greatest hits package on CD2.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_06: Oh really?
1:21:34
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_06: Interesting.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_05: So uh actually it's more than a greatest hits package, it's just like a small world is on there.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_05: That wasn't a hit.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_05: Um great song.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Walking on a Thin Line, great song.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_05: Wasn't wasn't a hit.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_05: Um Hope You Love Me Like You Say I Do.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_05: That's one of their first hits, I think.
1:21:51
SPEAKER_05: Uh but then the rest of them are are Jacob's Ladder was a small hit, but not a big hit.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_07: Um and they know, I always get that confused because you know, because Rush had a song called Jacob's Ladder too.
1:22:04
SPEAKER_07: Oh really?
1:22:06
SPEAKER_05: Um completely different song.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_05: Jacob's Ladder for this one would have been actually I don't have it on there.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_05: Uh I was gonna play it for you, but I'm not going to now because I don't have it on there.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_05: But they do have uh they have a song from the album Heart at Play.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_05: Um, which is uh do you remember this one?
1:22:27
SPEAKER_00: This was relatively sort of like 91.
1:22:44
SPEAKER_09: I don't like to work with one vaguely vaguely, which is a chorus.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you'll recognize it.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_05: No, not breaking any bells.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_01: Not really.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_01: I think it was I mean this was my Metallica.
1:23:29
SPEAKER_05: Right, you know.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_05: And you were 91, you were in my big hit off of it.
1:23:42
SPEAKER_05: Couple days off?
1:23:44
SPEAKER_07: No?
1:23:44
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so you were out of the loop there.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I was way out of the Huey Lewis loop by it.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_05: But that it hit me like a hammer was a was a small, small hit.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_07: Oh, okay.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_05: A couple days off, I don't even think was a big hit, but it was like the biggest one off that album.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:23:56
SPEAKER_07: So makes sense.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_05: Anyway, that's the album, Weather, Huey Lewis and the news.
1:24:00
SPEAKER_05: Uh Wall of Tunes album of the week.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_05: Uh, and that's it.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_05: That's episode 130.
1:24:06
SPEAKER_07: No, I got one more thing to do.
1:24:07
SPEAKER_05: Oh, did I forget it?
1:24:08
SPEAKER_05: Nope.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_05: No, you didn't tell me that.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_07: No, I because this is a complete surprise.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:24:12
SPEAKER_07: Okay, so I brought your birthday slash Christmas presents with me.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_07: Here is your official Abbey Road Beatles uh guitar strip that I got you.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_07: Look at that.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_07: It's pretty cool.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_07: Everybody, you can't see it because it's not video.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_05: Beatles Abbey Road.
1:24:28
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_07: That that was your birthday present.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_07: Then this was a surprise because I wasn't expecting to get this so soon.
1:24:41
SPEAKER_07: So I actually had I saw this advertised and I couldn't find it anywhere.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_07: So I had to like get a hold of the author, you know, go through his website.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_11: Uh-huh.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_07: But it's Tone Chaser by Steve Rosen.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_07: I couldn't, I couldn't find it.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_07: And so I had to, I it came directly from him, his website.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_07: So it like like the box and everything.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_07: It it's him.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_07: He said it himself.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_07: You are kidding me.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, right.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_07: It's pretty great.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_01: Dude, that is so awesome.
1:25:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I figured you would enjoy that.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_05: This is no, this is his all his interviews, right?
1:25:22
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's all his interviews with Eddie Van Halen.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_05: Tone Chaser.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_05: Understanding Edward, my 26-year journey with Edward Van Halen, Steve Rosen.
1:25:30
SPEAKER_07: My word.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_05: Thank you very much.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_07: So happy birthday and Merry Christmas.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_05: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_05: I got something planned for your birthday.
1:25:42
SPEAKER_05: Um.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_05: Well, we got a few months.
1:25:46
SPEAKER_05: It's not, it's probably not as cool as that, but uh, yeah.
1:25:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, it's not as cool as that.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_05: Or this, actually.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_05: I think you like it, but nah, now I'm now I'm second-guessing myself.
1:25:59
SPEAKER_04: Nah, don't, man.
1:26:00
SPEAKER_01: It was my pleasure.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
1:26:02
SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
1:26:03
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I'm so pumped.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_05: I still haven't finished I haven't finished your Neil um Peart book yet.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_07: Dude, I've read that so many times I have it memorized.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_07: So you know, whenever you get it back, there's no worries.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_05: That's that's intense.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_07: That's awesome.
1:26:17
SPEAKER_07: I thought you'd enjoy this.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_05: Well, just what that's a great way to end the podcast.
1:26:21
SPEAKER_05: My goodness, I'm on a high now.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_05: We're high! Look at that strap, too.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_05: It's a pretty cool strap, yeah.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, very cool.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_07: I thought you'd enjoy that.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_07: I don't know if you'll be able to use it or not.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_07: I don't know if it's uh I'll use it somewhere.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'll use it somewhere.
1:26:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I don't think yeah.
1:26:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think you could use that.
1:26:39
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_05: That's that's kick butt, man.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_05: Kick butt.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_05: Again, thank you.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_05: No problem, dude.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_05: Yay! Alright.
1:26:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh oh, and I I I um this just made me think of this because you got me the uh thing and the guitar strip.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_05: Um if my wife is listening.
1:26:58
SPEAKER_05: Um I am in love with guitars.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_05: And I'm not ashamed of it.
1:27:06
SPEAKER_05: I just have turned a corner here.
1:27:08
SPEAKER_07: Is this news?
1:27:09
SPEAKER_05: No, it's not news.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_05: But but I've always kind of uh recently I've been acquiring pedals and gear and it's not it doesn't usually sit well.
1:27:25
SPEAKER_05: Oh, sure, yeah.
1:27:25
SPEAKER_05: And I get to the point where I'm at the point where it's like I'm almost 50.
1:27:32
SPEAKER_05: You have to do things that make you happy.
1:27:35
SPEAKER_05: I don't know why guitar makes me happy, but guitar makes me happy.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_05: I s I you know I still am I still suck.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, hardly.
1:27:49
SPEAKER_05: I know, I mean I there's there's and but I've I'm learning a lot more about it, and I will I in my mind I'll probably always suck, but uh I enjoy just the idea of it.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_05: I enjoy having it in my hands, uh the guitar.
1:28:08
SPEAKER_07: Um we could edit that all right.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_05: I enjoy I just I enjoy everything about it and I'm and I feel like I'm like and I don't know what's what's different.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_05: Um I don't know if it's just because I realize that I'm getting older.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_05: Uh I don't know, but I feel like I'm 14 again and falling in love with the guitar.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_06: Sure.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_05: So um I just if my wife is listening, uh things start arriving in package.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_05: I haven't I haven't bought anything yet, but I'm just saying, you know, she just got a new uh silhouette cricket thing, you know, for her.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh, she got a cricket?
1:28:50
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well no, she she's had she's cricket is this, yeah, and a silhouette is a step above.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_07: Oh, it's like better than a cricket.
1:28:58
SPEAKER_05: It's better than a cricket.
1:28:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh, she had and that could only do so much, so she but just bought a bigger silhouette.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_05: Oh so she's gotta cut her her silhouette, she could do she could cut things, but it would take hours.
1:29:12
SPEAKER_07: Right.
1:29:13
SPEAKER_05: She just uh she got her new silhouette and she said I I cut uh this and this and this and this and this in ten minutes.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_05: You know.
1:29:23
SPEAKER_05: So it's obviously a good investment.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_05: But what I'm saying is, you got your stuff, and I got my stuff.
1:29:30
SPEAKER_05: Guitar, you know.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_05: She's making more money with it.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_05: Can you cut stuff with your guitar?
1:29:35
SPEAKER_05: I can yes.
1:29:37
SPEAKER_05: I cut an awesome solo! Cut my teeth.
1:29:41
SPEAKER_05: Um, so I'm you know, I just uh you know, I don't know.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_05: Thank you for this.
1:29:45
SPEAKER_05: This is awesome.
1:29:46
SPEAKER_05: Enjoy, my friend.
1:29:47
SPEAKER_05: And uh yeah.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_06: It goes well with your goat trophy.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it does.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_04: It does.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_04: All right, that's episode 137.
1:29:59
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_04: Yes, 137.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_04: 137.
1:30:01
SPEAKER_04: All right, until uh until next week.
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