Latest / The Calcio Guys / Lazio-Inter Recap & UCL Draw Reactions - Ep. 210 Ft. Shawn McIntosh
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- 0:26Paraphrazing Gennaro Gatuzzo here. But sometimes good, sometimes maybe not so good.
- 0:31That's the life of a Latsio fan. Latsio this season up and down,
- 0:35good in Champions League, not so good in the city. And we'll talk
- 0:38plenty about it, you know, on the couch, you guys, Johnny,
- 0:40Igiano and Nicholas and joining us this week our good friend Sean McIntosh from
- 0:43Latso World. Sean, how's it going. It's going. It's going well,
- 0:47it's going, you know, about as well as it can for a
- 0:50lots of out of these days. But it's always a pleasure to join you
- 0:54guys and chat Coyle Show. It's been a while, so great, great
- 0:59to be joining you. Thanks for having me, No, we're really happy
- 1:02to have you. We always enjoy you being on with us and having some
- 1:04fantastic conversations. Thank you for coming on anytime. I'll never forget Sean.
- 1:10I think it was the first time we had you on and you come on
- 1:11and you said your wife was pregnant with your your son at the time,
- 1:15and he said, if we could get signed a charity shirt bringing the name
- 1:19our suddenly one and that's exactly what happened. I know my favorite story of
- 1:26like the all two hundred plus episodes that we've been doing, this one of
- 1:29my favorite stories. No, thank you guys. Hard to believe it actually
- 1:34happens. And yeah, pretty cool. You know, let's see what other
- 1:38shirts we can get. Which player do you want? We'll have to one.
- 1:46I threw it out there in the in the atmosphere, but it didn't
- 1:52work out. Still ended up naming my daughter. But my daughter's name is
- 1:57Alessia, So I was going with the center back route, you know,
- 2:00for La Sally and see you. But you know, I'm still open to
- 2:07to taking a kid if it's out there. Well that show if you're romagno,
- 2:14if you're listening, please our friend friend of kids. That's awesome.
- 2:21Uh. Before we get into the actual couchrow talk, Sean, you did
- 2:24have a nice little trip to Italy, got to experience some Champions League couch
- 2:28show with Napoli. I mean, tell us all about that and and tell
- 2:31us what it's like to see a Champions League game, because none of us
- 2:37have ever seen one live in person. At least it was. It was
- 2:42awesome. You know, had the fortune of going for work with Charlotte Football
- 2:46Club you know, blessed to have the opportunity to travel here and there and
- 2:53take in some of the best atmospheres around the world. You know, we're
- 2:55a pretty ambitious club in Charlotte, and we want to make sure that,
- 3:00uh, we we're producing a match day experience that your rivals, anybody's across
- 3:06the world, not just in Major League soccer, and so Napoly, you
- 3:09know, it's got I don't even say it's arguable. Anybody that wants to
- 3:15argue it's wrong, but I think they've got the best announcer in world football
- 3:20in decibel and something that that we wanted to see in person, taking a
- 3:27Champions League match and see, you know what what it what it looks like
- 3:30and how they put that on for one of the biggest matches in the biggest
- 3:35tournament in the world. And so myself and a couple guys on our entertainment
- 3:38team went out. It was a quick trip. But I'll say this,
- 3:43uh, and this is coming from a lotzale. The people of Naples,
- 3:47the people at that club at Napoli absolutely world class human beings. Uh.
- 3:53The the hospitality that they showed us was tremendous, and you know, we
- 3:59were fortunate to full full look at their facilities and checking out their locker room,
- 4:06pitch access, you name it. You know, moments before a Champions
- 4:12League fixture and you know, getting to meet and hear from different members of
- 4:16the staff on how they operate as a club and you know some of their
- 4:20their UH strategies and you know some of their global efforts, and you know
- 4:27some of the thoughts behind some of the shirts that they they they put on.
- 4:30And it was really great and and super gracious, amazing hosts, and
- 4:35you know, a Champions League fixture, it's you know, we talked a
- 4:40little bit about it before we went live, but getting to hear the Champions
- 4:45League anthem was incredible, spine tingling. You're so entranced with what's going on
- 4:53in the moment that you know, I even forgot about the crescendo of it
- 4:59all when every and he joined in singing Champions at the very end, and
- 5:03it just hit me like a ton of bricks. It's like, oh my
- 5:05god, that was amazing, you know, and then it was a monopoly.
- 5:12It was it was it was a good, good match. You know,
- 5:15we we wanted to hear the goal announcement and uh and you know,
- 5:18fortunate that we got to hear Decibel do his work. The first goal was
- 5:25an own goal and so we didn't get to hear it because of course he's
- 5:30announcing the goal scorer, and so I was like, oh, man,
- 5:31that's that's a bummer. And then uh and then Ossu men, you know,
- 5:36the the King of Africa, African Player of the Year scores a goal
- 5:42and we get to hear you know, Decibel with with his announcement. So
- 5:46it was awesome to hear in person. And it was just a really strong
- 5:50atmosphere. You think about that match against Braga, no disrespect to Braga,
- 5:56but it's it's not real Madrid, you know, it's it's not a massive
- 6:02mobile name, you know. And and this is a midweek match for Fornopoly
- 6:09that was all but through. You know, they had a little bit of
- 6:11work to do, but there there wasn't a ton to be concerned. I
- 6:16mean, they they would have had to have lost that one by a couple
- 6:19of goals, you know, so every reason for the people of of of
- 6:25Naples to maybe not attend this midweek match with you know, obviously the play
- 6:30this year in the league hasn't been up to what they expected or what it
- 6:35was last year. So I'll say they showed up. They were incredibly loud,
- 6:41it was a pretty packed building, It looked great, The atmosphere was
- 6:46tremendous. There was definitely a buzz and excitement for it. So obviously they
- 6:50did what they had to do to to advance out of Champions League, and
- 6:54so you know that that was an important step for them in uh you just
- 7:00talking to some of the folks at the club and that was their sentiment that
- 7:01this was an important match for them, not necessarily because it meant getting out
- 7:05of the group, which they kind of expected, but to just get them
- 7:10back on track to winning ways so that hopefully that would roll over into said
- 7:15yeah, and we saw it this weekend. Obviously Napoli took care of business
- 7:18in league play, so yeah, it was it was tremendous. Yeah,
- 7:24I have to agree because with the whole friendliness. You know, even when
- 7:29I went this well last season, funny enough, I did not hear any
- 7:33Bellini announcements because they lost a lot seal one zero to the one game that
- 7:36I went to, so you saw a different side that I didn't even get
- 7:43a chance to see. But overall, like even the fans, like they
- 7:46were very welcoming with me. It's funny because you have fans like sneaking snacks
- 7:53and stuff and they're just distributing in the middle like gameplayer halftime and like just
- 7:57passing it around like cookies or the you know, the you know, the
- 8:01cornetti to have like the like the cream inside, like you know, like
- 8:05all this stuff like that. Like it's it's just it's it's it's such a
- 8:09fun it's a fun atmosphere and stuff, a lot of energy, uh and
- 8:13you feel it, you know, like the like the there, like the
- 8:16stadium was was vibrating when I went. But you have the entire city,
- 8:18right, it's all about Napoli there, you know, and they immortalize their
- 8:24their stars like no other city, you know. I mean we can joke
- 8:31about it. Obviously. The Manadonna is still everywhere, you know, thirty
- 8:37years later after that Scudetto. It's just such a part of their city.
- 8:41And you know, now you see the paintings, the murals of Cascaria osimen
- 8:48and and you know Di Lorenzo all around the city. And you know,
- 8:54on a side note to that, what was pretty cool for somebody that works
- 8:58in Major League Soccer right now is of course you got your Madadonna kits everywhere,
- 9:03and you know you've got your your fake kits from from Napoli on every
- 9:09side street possible. And you now see Lionel Messi into Miami shirts everywhere.
- 9:18And I was both thrilled to see major League Soccer, you know, now
- 9:24has a presence in in in alleys of Napoli, but also super annoyed that
- 9:31of course it's you know, it's you can't get away from Messy and that
- 9:35bright pink no matter where you are around the world. But it's certainly great
- 9:39for the league. But you saw something that extremely like jealous of you happened
- 9:46to see the dressing room for the Napoly players. Tell us about that,
- 9:50Like, how is it like just being in a really renovated from a mistaken
- 9:54Yeah, Like it's the room that basically they celebrated the scudetto last year,
- 9:58you know, and like you know many players that came in and out of
- 10:01that more or less I mean history. Yeah, you know, like for
- 10:07me, for for somebody is passionate, just like you guys about Colco.
- 10:11It's it's no different than going to Pompeii or seeing the coliseum in Rome like
- 10:18that. That's my history. That's the history that I love seeing, right,
- 10:24not only the locker room, but getting to walk the steps where Maradona
- 10:28famously walked up prior to being introduced to the one hundred thousand Knopoly fans,
- 10:35you know, during his introduction to the team. Getting to see those steps,
- 10:39walk up them and take a photo on those was for me something really
- 10:45really special because that's just that's football and history. So yeah, there's obviously
- 10:50it's a it's a club, it's a building that's been around since the forties,
- 10:54so you know, it's an old building. I think what's interesting too,
- 11:01you see everything in the United States, not just the US, but
- 11:03you guys in North America in general and in the sports landscape, everything is
- 11:09about the best new technology and every bell and whistle and it's got to be
- 11:15entertainment, right, like flashing in front of your face at all times.
- 11:18And this is an old building. And we know about the buildings in Italy
- 11:24and they're old and they certainly need to be renovated. And we'd love to
- 11:28see new buildings. We'd love to see better, nicer, cleaner, but
- 11:35I don't know. There was just something special about walking into that building and
- 11:39still knowing that you know, I'm walking down the same steps, and that
- 11:43might have done it was walking down and that there's there's a lot of history
- 11:46in here. You know that World Cups were played in this building, and
- 11:50I thought that was pretty cool. And you know, you didn't need all
- 11:54the bells and whistles. You went to your seat, you sat down,
- 11:58and you were there to watch. Again, it's a Champions League picture.
- 12:01You're there to watch some of the best football in the world. So yeah,
- 12:05I thought it was awesome. Uh. I don't know if you guys,
- 12:13Adriana, if you have any other questions. We do actually have one
- 12:16question leading to Napoli and that so it might be a bit of a premature
- 12:20question, but it might be a perfect transition, Sean, unless Adriana had
- 12:24another question about this, No specifically, not really. I mean it was
- 12:30just I mean, you nailed like some big points there, Sean. I
- 12:33mean, that's Babilini, I think is iconic. Obviously, everybody knows anybone
- 12:37who falls culture said, Yeah, even just general football fan knows his voice.
- 12:41I think it was he really broke out on the scene on that on
- 12:46the heguayin goal announcement many years ago, and he's just for one, just
- 12:54from an outside he works just like a stand up great dude. Like just
- 12:56outside of all the announcing and all the you know, the his work,
- 13:01he just looks like a stand up guy. So pretty cool to see that
- 13:05you met him. I got like, like you said, pretty cool that
- 13:09you were at an atmosphere like that, Like I mean even as even as
- 13:16a neutral, and that in that match, I mean you, like you
- 13:18said, Sean, it was just ah as if it was a lot too
- 13:22match, but it wasn't a lot too much, you know. So it's
- 13:26for me, that's that's awesome. Going to going to games in Italy as
- 13:30a neutral is pretty cool. I me and Nick got to experience that four
- 13:33years ago now, and it's it's it's a unique feeling like just being in
- 13:37a in a iconic stadium for whatever matchup. Bet maybe if it's Sad,
- 13:43if it's Coportality, if it's Champions Europa Conference, it doesn't really matter.
- 13:48I think just being in these atmospheres are are huge. So no Nick segue
- 13:52away, Uh, we had a we had a good segue. So we'll
- 13:54take it from there, we did get a question in Instagram. So I
- 14:00do want to talk a lot of about Lato, but UH just jump straight
- 14:03into this question because it relates not playing Latso, H do you want and
- 14:09think Lorenzo and Senior will join Latzio? So? I don't know. I
- 14:13I don't know what the rumors are or anything not following, but I know
- 14:16he has a bit of issues, you know, in Toronto, or he
- 14:20kind of wants out, uh, possibly come back to Italy. I guess
- 14:22Latso is a rumor to be I don't know what do you think about that?
- 14:28Without going into like contract talk for for a player in our league and
- 14:33Major league soccer, you know, I'll say just purely from a fan standpoint
- 14:39with Latzo. Uh, yeah, there was some some rumors, uh,
- 14:46largely because right now Latzo has some injury concerns, particularly at the winger position.
- 14:56Is Oxen, who was a Danish sign uh in the summer transfer window,
- 15:01Uh finally got a couple opportunities and looked incredibly promising. Uh honestly as
- 15:09a player that I was very excited about and gave lots of his attack a
- 15:16ton of life, but then got injured and you know he's been out now
- 15:20for a couple of weeks, doubtful that we'll see him until the new year.
- 15:22And Zach Kanye had some injury problems that took him out of playing for
- 15:31and you know he's recently returned. You know, Pedro's up there in age
- 15:35started off the season injured as well, and so you know, this all
- 15:39kind of mounts up to a need for a winger and rumors about in Senia
- 15:46not being super happy in Toronto and not hard to imagine why they they they
- 15:54struggled and they had a really tough season in Major League Soccer, went through
- 15:58a couple of managerial changes, and you know, but uh, I just
- 16:03to be honest, I don't want him at Latso. I think his best
- 16:08stays are are are far far gone. We saw it in his last season
- 16:15Anopoly. He just lost a little bit of an edge. And it's really
- 16:21tough to do when you're playing at that winger position. How important your your
- 16:26paces and shiftiness. And he's a he's a small player, and so you
- 16:32lose that pace at that size, it's it's really tough unless you are I
- 16:38mean, you look at a player like Pedro, I mean, Pedro still
- 16:41has a lot of the the quickness, and I just think when you think
- 16:48about those two players like Pedro, just in terms of like if I'm if
- 16:52I'm listing ranking those types of players, I think Pedro is just was always
- 16:57a couple of steps above maybe in Signa, but I just think he's he's
- 17:04lost too much so you know, he wasn't able to influence the game as
- 17:11much in Major League Soccer. I don't think he would do that for Latsio.
- 17:15I think he comes with a hefty wage. It would require him taking
- 17:22a significant pay cut. I don't know if if maybe he wants to get
- 17:27back to Italy bad enough, you know, he'd have to accept a much
- 17:33smaller role. Be tough to imagine him wanting to do that again. Maybe
- 17:40he's homesick enough, but I just don't think that's that's the signing that I
- 17:45want to see Latzo make. Right now, I know, I know,
- 17:51I know what he wanted to or at least the rumors are saying that try
- 17:53to maybe reunite with with Saudi those obviously they had some good years together,
- 18:00magical Napoli teams, then unfortunately wasn't able to capitalize and win the sculetto but
- 18:04still some some top top years. And that's kind of just another quite like
- 18:10another like talking point where this whole rumor and whatever is that, Like,
- 18:15is Sadi even gonna stick around? Like that's been when we talk about a
- 18:18lot too on this show show and it's we're not sure about Sadi's future.
- 18:22We're not sure how this team is going to look next season. I don't
- 18:23want to go jump into that conversation like deep, deep, deep, but
- 18:27your quick analysis on that as as a as a hardcore final as you are
- 18:33already you don't want to see me to come because of everything that you need.
- 18:36But is Sadi sticking around next season? Like where do you see that
- 18:41even as a standout? I mean, who knows? Right the world of
- 18:47cultural football, we know managers are always on a hot seat. Everybody likes
- 18:52said put the term like this manager is now in the hot seat, but
- 18:56the reality is that the moment they signed their content track, it's a hot
- 19:00seat to perform. And you know, Sadi. For anybody that listens to
- 19:07our Lot Sale World podcast, like my co host and I Caleb, and
- 19:11we we take a lot of pride in and you know we both work in
- 19:15the industry, so we see some of the the inner workings and and how
- 19:22wrong fans can be sometimes without maybe seeing the full picture. And you know,
- 19:27it's sometimes unfair a criticism a manager gets. So we try to be
- 19:33pretty level headed, you know. With with Sadi, I mean, i'd
- 19:37say the callings for Sadi out came way too early this season for my liking,
- 19:45you know. And and I thought a lot of the early calls uh
- 19:49for for his exodus just came way too quick. And it's a manager that
- 19:56you know, has seen progress in his first two seasons, I mean last
- 19:59year taking lots of the second in the league. We have to remember that,
- 20:03you know, lots of his wage bill is generally like in the sixth
- 20:07or seventh range, you know, And and you know he's been outperforming,
- 20:14you know that, and and being able to see progress in his first two
- 20:18seasons. So you know, it's it's hard for me to completely throw everything
- 20:22he's done out the window, you know, ten matches in. But now
- 20:26we're getting to a place where it is becoming increasingly frustrating for myself, for
- 20:32many LATSI because we're not seeing a ton of progress. I'm always one there's
- 20:38there's blame to go around. The players have all taken a step backwards to
- 20:44it's a manager's job to get the most out of his players. But a
- 20:48manager can't go out there and and finish an opportunity, you know. And
- 20:52a manager can't go out there and you know, we saw how lots of
- 21:00conceded their first goal right this this weekend, like Modestich makes a bone headed
- 21:06mistake and there's just nothing Sadi or any manager can do to stop that.
- 21:11So you know, there's there's there's blame to go around. A manager has
- 21:15to do what he can to fix it. I still think there's something there.
- 21:19I am very, very frustrated, you know, with the system right
- 21:23now. It's not working, and I think it's fair to ask a ton
- 21:29of questions from him. It's been nice to see lot Tito backing him,
- 21:34just because I want some stability. But you know, I'd say, if
- 21:41you would have asked me after the Saldana match, if you would have asked
- 21:45me after a couple of these losses, particularly just against the team's fighting for
- 21:48relegation, uh, gun to my head, I would have said, Sadi
- 21:52out. But you know, when when you talk about firing a manager,
- 21:56the biggest question is then who comes into a place him? Who out there
- 22:00is is the manager to fill in? You know, And and I think
- 22:07you have to question is has he really lost? Has he lost the locker
- 22:11room? Is there no chance of regaining any of the magic that we had
- 22:15last year? I still think there's an opportunity. I think I thought that
- 22:21we had some depth this year, certainly more so than last year. But
- 22:26you know, I think people laughed at Saudi last year saying that lots of
- 22:32just didn't have the squad to compete on two fronts go and made a decision
- 22:37not to necessarily play and go all out in Europa, and that served lots
- 22:41of well because they were able to focus on the league and and it got
- 22:45them to second. And you know, I think maybe the question is do
- 22:51we have We're probably not good enough to really put all of our eggs in
- 22:55two baskets when it comes to Champions League and the League. And I think
- 23:00you're seeing us go for it a little bit more in Champions League, and
- 23:04we're just not able to to rotate in a way that allows us to really
- 23:10compete. All that being said, we still should be beating some of these
- 23:14relegation sides. So that's where the frustration comes into. Losing the ink debt
- 23:18is one thing, but you know, dropping games to relegation sides that we're
- 23:22playing, you know, down a man is is where the frustration comes in.
- 23:26I think, I think just want to stop, just want to see
- 23:29the bleeding stuff. I think that's that's kind of been the biggest thing.
- 23:32I mean, is it fairness? And I don't want, I don't mean
- 23:34to cutch on you off, but is it fair to is it fair to
- 23:37say that last season compared to this season as a WATCHO squad, obviously nobody.
- 23:44I don't really think many people expected them to to have reached where they
- 23:48reached last season and for their put and for your players to have played at
- 23:51the level they played at last season. Is it fair to say that maybe
- 23:56they're kind of coming back down to earth and kind of this is where they
- 23:59are. I don't want, I don't mean that as a dig, but
- 24:03just as your your point of view watching them week in week out, really
- 24:07being devoted into the team. Is that fair to say? Or is there
- 24:10is there something wrong because they were wrong? Because again you look at the
- 24:18matches that we're dropping we're losing to We're losing to cal We're drawing to Vedona.
- 24:26That that is just that's not that is We're for sure a better team
- 24:33than that. Right the way we were playing last year, it was it
- 24:37was good football and we were tough to beat. Defensively, we were really
- 24:44solid. His mind last season, Yeah, you know, taking back this
- 24:52year, Romano is still good. But Romanu has been injured now and so
- 24:57we Kovich Savach is gone. Arguably the best midfielder in the league, and
- 25:03so you lose a big piece like that, and you have a ton of
- 25:06new signings, which is nice, but we know in Sadiyah it takes players
- 25:11that come from outside the league a little bit of time to adjust, and
- 25:15so we have a lot of players that are trying to figure it out and
- 25:19hard to replace Malinkovich Saviach so quickly. So I think it's a combination of
- 25:26a lot of that and again a lot of focus being put on Champions League
- 25:30where they played pretty well, and then coming out. I mean, this
- 25:34lot suicide has always had some mentality issues. That's not a Saudi thing.
- 25:40That goes back to even when Simone was our manager. So I think I
- 25:45mean, even last year we dropped points. Last year we were world beaters
- 25:48and we would beat you top sides in Saidiya all the time. Our record
- 25:53against the top six was immaculate. And then we would drop points to on
- 26:00the same old story Apuli, and you know it was a side that would
- 26:04fall asleep, wake up for the big matches. And so it's a little
- 26:08bit of that. We're just not quite in rhythm. You know, she'd
- 26:12always another year older. I just don't think our system is working well right
- 26:18now. And that's that's where Sadi needs to make some adjustments. Uh,
- 26:26because I want to ask this before we shift. Because we had Nick deaneon
- 26:30earlier this season. I think it was probably maybe three four games in for
- 26:33Latsu and two you was talking about you saw like little signs of frustration because
- 26:37you would lose the first three games beaten Opoly and then you know, get
- 26:41poor results against teams. And I know we've had discussions about Sadi. He
- 26:45had his infamous quote. I think it was either this summer or just slightly
- 26:48towards the end of last year where it's like he or was it earlier this
- 26:52season where he considered it a miracle to finish second last season and it's like
- 26:56that's the best we can do. And it's kind of sucks when you're fat,
- 26:59because you're like, well, we want the title. What do you
- 27:00mean second place is the best we're gonna do? You know? Do you
- 27:04feel like, I know, you just went on a bit of a shift,
- 27:07so make it a we can make this one a quick one because you
- 27:11you went on a bit of a rant about it before. Do you think
- 27:14maybe Sadie's time is probably going to be up by summertime? You know?
- 27:18Sometimes, you know, teams do tend to have a shift or wake up
- 27:22or change mentality whenever there's a manager change. And more often than not,
- 27:26a manager change is easier to do than changing h players on a roster.
- 27:33Kind of easier in the soccer world, but then there's times where it's like
- 27:36it's hard to break contracts. Anyways, I don't get into that rabbit hole,
- 27:38but do you feel that, like just just your your pure speculation or
- 27:44opinion, if what keeps happening keeps happening, hard to think that Sadi will
- 27:49be around, right, But if if we see a turnaround and we start
- 27:56seeing progress and we climb back into European positions, I don't even think we
- 28:02need to qualify for Champions for Sadi to be back. I just think we
- 28:07need to see that progress and get back to feeling really good about this project,
- 28:12which we all felt great about six months ago. We felt really strong
- 28:18about the project, solid signings. So if we can get back to seeing
- 28:21progress, then then I think he should stick around. But if if we
- 28:26continue down this path right now, I think it would be tough to see
- 28:33that. So yeah, I mean, Sadi's uh, not that type of
- 28:38coach to stay for a while. He you know, three years Napoly,
- 28:42three years at those were his only three years at Napoli. Yeah, it
- 28:49felt like ten years now exactly. So Sadi though that that. Unfortunately,
- 28:55that is today's game where there are not a lot of that stay looking around
- 29:00anywhere. Right. You look at contest track record, you look at Marino,
- 29:03I mean everybody, even your greats now it's you know, coming in
- 29:10down every single year. Yeah, but that that seems it seems like three
- 29:14is the magic number for Sati. So it'll be interesting to follow follow this
- 29:18story. But uh, we did want to ask you about the lots of
- 29:22inter game that just happened this weekend to nothing for Inter. I mean,
- 29:26Inter's top of the league. They're the top team. We've discussed in multiple
- 29:30times on this podcast. They are the top team in Italy right now.
- 29:33So it's not a loss to I guess to get frustrated at. But regardless,
- 29:37you're at home. You want three points, you know, at worst,
- 29:41I guess it draw, but two nothing Inter goals from their their striker
- 29:45duo duo to ram and Martinez. On top of that, Ladzadi did get
- 29:49a red in the eighty six minute. Uh, give us your thoughts on
- 29:52the game, and I mean, I guess what went wrong for Latsuo.
- 29:57Yeah. So there's there's two coins to this game. One that I can
- 30:03be really frustrated about and then one that you know, I can feel a
- 30:07little bit more hopeful about. I'll start with the frustrating part. This was
- 30:14this was probably lots of second best match of the season. I think our
- 30:18performance against Napoli was our best performance. This this one. If you look
- 30:23at the statistics, it would indicate that a draw would have been a fair
- 30:32result. If you just looked at the stats, you would say, wow,
- 30:34this game must must have ended in a draw. You know, pretty
- 30:37even on shots, pretty even on possession expected goals was fairly even, you
- 30:44know, and first half I thought Latso was the better team. I love
- 30:48the way that we played, love the way that we came out. I
- 30:52thought we were the team a little bit more on the front foot. And
- 30:56then fortieth minute Matisich loses his absolute mind and plays the role of bab Natale
- 31:04and gifts in there a chance, and you know, Latauro does fantastic.
- 31:11You know, he still has a little bit of work to do and getting
- 31:12around Providel and you know, chipping it over Hila and but clinical and you
- 31:18can't make those types of mistakes. And so you know, coming away from
- 31:23that match, I was both hopeful and that you know, we're playing the
- 31:27best side in Italy right now and you know we look good and just as
- 31:33frustrated because we played one of our better matches and we still lost to No
- 31:37at home. So you know, for me, it came down to really
- 31:42just individual class, you know, not being able to take advantage of our
- 31:47opportunities, versus in there finishing both of their chances. They had two shots
- 31:52on frame and they were both two goals, So you know, we had
- 31:56some moments. Uh Rovela, who has been absolutely spectacular this season. This
- 32:04was a match for me that again he stood out that he was Latsio's best
- 32:07player. He had a moment in the second half just minutes into the second
- 32:12half where he strips Cho Lenaglu and goes on a darting individual run. Chiato
- 32:17and Mobila just fantastic work to pull defenders away from him by making his run
- 32:24as strong as he does, and Robella just takes the space and you know
- 32:29it's it's then pretty much one on one with the keeper, and you know
- 32:32it's it's it's a say he could have done a little bit better and placing
- 32:36that one. That's the that's moments like that were the difference in this.
- 32:42So frustrated to lose. Latso has been really good at Stadi olympicoll. But
- 32:47you again, you you can feel good about it. There's there's more hopeful
- 32:52things to take away from this. If Latsio plays the way that they did
- 32:57this weekend, I think we'll start climbing the tape and and we'll be able
- 33:00to take care of business against weaker sides. But you know, and I
- 33:06did think that they showed really strong mentality coming out of the locker room.
- 33:09It's easy, especially with lots of I was concerned that after Mattersich's blunder that
- 33:15they would put their heads down and come out with a poor mentality. But
- 33:21you know, I thought all in now, they they showed something. They
- 33:24just couldn't put it all together. I think it was more Yeah, I
- 33:30agree, Sean, I think it was. It was not that they have.
- 33:34The result was to know, but it's how it became to know,
- 33:37right, Like you said it, like you said, like that Moto stitch
- 33:38mistake, like it kind of reminds me of like you know, the the
- 33:44the got the own goal, uh for you of it right that that was
- 33:46terrible. Nobody expects that stuff to happen. Matusch, I don't know.
- 33:50I don't even know where he thought he was passing it to with that type
- 33:53of strength of a past, like you just don't know, like you're not
- 33:57in the player's head. I can't even can't even because yeah, he was,
- 34:02he was making a run as if those two planned this, you know,
- 34:07right, he was already back there. I was betting on it,
- 34:10or or somebody maybe somebody was betting on it. So figures instinct, I
- 34:16guess to just get in the passing Liane. What he's on. He's on
- 34:20such a tear this season. Guys like I think, like he's, you
- 34:22know, on top of the league. A couple we say it every week
- 34:25now it's was he had fifteen goals or something. So he's just running away
- 34:30with it. He's in good form. He's hot. So like I don't
- 34:31and when you get like a you know something dish, I pass it down
- 34:36a silver platter from an opponent, it's he's going to score it. So
- 34:43you said there are were some were some positives out of the match. I
- 34:45mean, it's so funny, man, Like this team is such a jaggo
- 34:51and high team this season, like said, he has one thing Champions Leagues
- 34:54and another like what do you make and not to veer away from maybe is
- 35:00this game? But what do you what do you put that on? Like
- 35:01is it the team focusing on one rather than the other or is it just
- 35:07pure luck of how how things are pointing out this season that they're in Setia.
- 35:10It's one thing, Champions League is another, and they're facing some good
- 35:13competition in Champions League. Their group was they had some had some some good
- 35:16clubs in there. So where do you point the finger on why that is
- 35:22and is there a way to kind of maybe balance balance this this Jeco and
- 35:27hydact throughout for the rest of this season. Yeah, I think it is.
- 35:30You know, one, it's focused because we've seen this from this side
- 35:35before. Uh So, it's just it's a little bit of when it comes
- 35:39to the big matches, they they come prepared and this was another example of
- 35:44it. The result didn't go their way and you know, individual mistake really
- 35:49cost them, but by and large, the level of play was really strong
- 35:53and and lots of came to play for this match. So I think it
- 35:58is a mentality issue where when it's a big match, they're they're focused and
- 36:01they're ready. I do think that for them, the squad depth isn't of
- 36:09of some of the other sides, right, it's not in dead It certainly
- 36:13isn't you know, the level of a city that can go out there,
- 36:15real Madrid and you know it just it is what it is. That's the
- 36:20reality for Latso and so you know when they go out and you have Cheeto
- 36:23playing seventy five minutes and Champions League, that's that's a lot on a thirty
- 36:30three thirty four year Old with a lot of miles on them, and and
- 36:34so it's it's tough again some injury concerns for us, so we don't have
- 36:38a ton of depth at the winger position, so we're playing Forelippe Anderson every
- 36:43single minute of every single match, and Zach Kanye, who's coming off of
- 36:47injury. So I do think that some of that comes into play. And
- 36:52and you know, so a little bit of that with a lot of just
- 36:57mentality and not being focused for some of these small matches because again Napoli we
- 37:01looked really really good this year in the room Derby, like we that we
- 37:07were the better side and and we were the ones that were taking it to
- 37:12Roma. Rama did well too obviously buckle down and not concede. But you
- 37:16know, for some of these bigger matches we've looked pretty decent. But I
- 37:22just think that they need to shift some of that focus, you know,
- 37:25for some of these games that they should be winning and that they're not regarding.
- 37:37You know, we talked about the city, Yeah we thought so.
- 37:39I think they're intent now. Uh it's almost like a Jacko and Hyde situation
- 37:44because Champions League they managed to get through obviously not the best draw today playing
- 37:51Byron, But yeah, what are your thoughts on what they've accomplished in the
- 37:55Champions League this season? Obviously you're happy with it, and it was her
- 38:00thoughts about this this draw Againspire. Yeah, I mean, let's lots of
- 38:04took care of business in the group stage and you know, it's it's a
- 38:08very different lots so when when we're in Champions versus Europa and Europa they don't
- 38:15And I hate the mentality that they've taken in Europa because I think when you're
- 38:20in European competitions that you know, it's an opportunity to make a name and
- 38:24you should you should be trying to take home hardware regardless of the competition.
- 38:29But you know, they did their job well. It was a it was
- 38:36not the hardest group in the world, but it's a it is a tough
- 38:37group and lots of did well and they took care of business. So I
- 38:44was very proud of of their efforts in Champions League thus far. But you
- 38:49know, now we're we're talking about a team in Bayern Munich was was not
- 38:57you know, I didn't love that draw. Uh, last time lots Of
- 39:01was in Champions what three years ago now similar draw. It was not it
- 39:07was not a great ending for us. I want to say the aggregate was
- 39:10six's one. I'm playing an off memory, a memory I'd like to forget,
- 39:16so I could be wrong on that it's six to one or seven to
- 39:21something terrible. But you know, I'll be honest, I'm not very hopeful.
- 39:28While I while lots of likes to get up for big matches, there's
- 39:30only so much that you can do. And uh, and and Byron's got
- 39:35to be one of the favorites to win this thing this year. I know
- 39:38they're they're run a formant in in Bundesliga. Hasn't been fantastic this year,
- 39:45but they've got a hell of a squad. They're getting it done in Champions
- 39:47League. They're one of the big boys in this competition. So yeah,
- 39:52there there was other teams that I would have much rather have faced that we're
- 39:55in our in our pot of selection, but uh, disappointed that it was
- 40:00Buyern. You know, I'd say, uh, it would take a it
- 40:05would take a full blown miracle to get out of this group. My my
- 40:07attention is now focused entirely on sid Yeah, and making sure we we can
- 40:13at least go out with a little bit of dignity, play a strong match,
- 40:17you know, go out there and and make a positive name for our
- 40:22club to the rest of the world that's tuned in. But I don't expect
- 40:28a lot. That's tough. I think that's tough. Like I mean,
- 40:35I think personally, I think all the the Italian teams have tough matchups.
- 40:39Like I don't think it's any cake walk in any of the matchups. I
- 40:43know some people say, oh, it's not the same Byron or it's not
- 40:45the same Barcelona or whatever, but you know, it's still these are still
- 40:52top teams. I guess it's what happens when you finished in second in your
- 40:54group. This is what you kind of just kind of the bed that you
- 40:58that you weigh into. So it's unfortunate, but hey, it is what
- 41:02it is. It's a draw. This is what happens. You get who
- 41:06you get, and you want to play. I mean, I really don't
- 41:08think like you said, John, just add to your point, I don't
- 41:12think he's this lats of team has much to lose in terms of you know
- 41:15what I mean, Like, obviously it's a tough matchup. Obviously they're not
- 41:19the favorite. I don't see why they can't go for it. You know,
- 41:22I would like to see that, uh you know, as just a
- 41:24neutral fan of this matchup. You know, just I don't see Yeah,
- 41:30like I said, I don't see back against the wall anyways, Like they
- 41:32have nothing really to lose, I might as well go all all for it.
- 41:37But I think by saying that, and let's say they do get tossed
- 41:42from Champions League after this matchup, the importance of getting back into the top
- 41:45four for in Citi, I think, and again, correct me if I'm
- 41:49wrong, but I think that's even more of an emphasis. Like this team,
- 41:54along with all of the teams in Citia, if not all of them,
- 41:57kneed Champions League football, need that chu seeing money, you know can
- 42:02benefit greatly from these from these things. Is that is that? I mean,
- 42:07I know we're ways away and I'm not here to to I'm not a
- 42:10big guy on on on making predictions like that, but like, is that
- 42:16like still possible for you? Like? Is is that where the emphasis are?
- 42:20Is like it's top four or it's a failure or is it Europa?
- 42:23Okay, Like where do you you know what? I mean? Where's your
- 42:25mind at yeah, So I don't like to say whether it's hard to say
- 42:31a failure for me because again, like I just want to see progress.
- 42:37I want to believe in a project, and so our goal is absolutely top
- 42:40four. That that was my goal. That I think the club's goal and
- 42:45ambition is, Yes, that is our goal is to finish in top four.
- 42:49If we happen to land in five or six, I don't necessarily see
- 42:53it as a failure because it just depends on what the story is. Right,
- 42:59we've dug ourselves in the in a bit of a hole. For me,
- 43:01if we have a solid performance again against Bayern, we can be proud
- 43:06of. Maybe we get hard done by and and you know, we get
- 43:09knocked out, but it's a really great effort. Or you know, maybe
- 43:15we beat Bayern, maybe we you know, go on some tremendous run,
- 43:19right and we're in the quarterfinals or semi finals, and yeah, you finishing
- 43:22sixth in the league, that's something to be proud of. That's not something
- 43:25that would deem as a failure. For this year. Again, we're in
- 43:30a bit of a hole. We're in eleventh in the table. So if
- 43:31we can go on a nice run and we finished the season feeling positive.
- 43:37We just barely miss out. We're in fifth place. I can look at
- 43:40that as a big step. Great. I feel confident in what we're building.
- 43:45If I see some of the players develop, maybe socks and really turns
- 43:49into a star, you know, Pat Castellanos is, you know, I
- 43:53feel like maybe he's the one to take the baton from Cheetah. Then I
- 43:58look at the season as being despite falling outside of Champions League. But to
- 44:05your point, you know, like so many Satiat clubs, Champions League is
- 44:08everything, and particularly for a side like Latzo, and we don't have our
- 44:13own stadium, we don't get the revenues that we benefit from that. You
- 44:16know, we're not a massive name in global football anymore. We rely on
- 44:23this and my biggest frustration as a fan is that we can't turn this into
- 44:30a cycle. We can't turn this into multi year runs in Champions League,
- 44:35because that's what it takes to finally put yourself in a position to really start
- 44:39selling and buying players and being more attractive as a destination for some of these
- 44:46bigger names, and turning yourself into a bit of a brand so that there's
- 44:51some recognition that you're playing in this competition over and over. It's always,
- 44:55you know, one year we're in Champions and then it's going to be a
- 44:58few years before we get back, and so we desperately need the consistency of
- 45:05qualifying for this tournament. So I think for me that that is such a
- 45:08big focus. But again it just kind of depends on, you know,
- 45:15how we get there or don't get there, where I would deem the season
- 45:19a success or failure. While we're on the topic of Champions League, I
- 45:24want to ask pretty much everyone their thoughts on the new Champions League format for
- 45:30next season. So it is a bit hard to explain. I don't know
- 45:32if you know all you guys know the new format, but it's going up
- 45:37to thirty six teams. There's no more group stage. It's kind of like
- 45:39a league schedule, kind of like what you know NFL, NHL, NBA
- 45:45does, where you're you're just gonna play eight other teams and it's eight group
- 45:52league games between September and and the last ones in January, and then there's
- 45:58a knockout round and then I think after the there's knock around round of sixteen,
- 46:01quarter finals, semi finals, and finals. So an extra round of
- 46:04knockouts. It just seems like obviously a big complicated to first understand. I'm
- 46:10sure it'll be fine once it gets going. But because of this, there's
- 46:15a possibility that Italy does get an extra fifth spot based on quote efficiency season
- 46:19again all math. You know, we won't know until the end of the
- 46:22end of the season, but we'll start with you. Do you think this
- 46:28is a good change for the Champions League? Are you? Are you a
- 46:30traditionalist? Do you prefer the way it is? Now? What do you
- 46:32think of this? So I'll say this, my gut reaction to it is
- 46:38I hate it and more just you know, yeah, I'm probably super old
- 46:45school and you know, a verse, just not a big fan of change.
- 46:49For me, it's if it's not broken, then why try to fix
- 46:52it? You know, Champions League is one of the greatest, if not
- 46:58the greatest competition that we get every single year. It's it's it's the best.
- 47:02Love everything about the group stage. You know a lot of folks,
- 47:07a lot of people really don't pay attention or they or they they think the
- 47:10group stage socks And it's not until you get to the exhilarating matchups of your
- 47:15buyers and Gilds. But I absolutely love the group stage. I think that's
- 47:20when you get opportunities like your Copenhagen's your fee and oords right to come in
- 47:24and slay a giant, and you know, an opportunity for some of these
- 47:30really unique matchups and for your your massive sides to to play in new countries
- 47:37and different venues. So I love I love the group stage. You know,
- 47:44I think there's just a problem in general in world football with the continued
- 47:50addition of more and more games, which is is going to cause a problem,
- 47:53like we're going to see lesser quality matchups because physically the players just can't
- 48:00handle it. It's it's getting out of hand. So you know, But
- 48:05I say all of that to say, when this rolls around and we're all
- 48:09tuning in, we're we're probably all gonna love it, and there's going to
- 48:15be drama and matchups and we're all going to be looking at that table to
- 48:20see whether or not our sides are making it out, and you know,
- 48:23I'm sure it'll end up being positive. But but I really love what we
- 48:28have right now and didn't really see a need to make a change, at
- 48:32least a need that served the fans' purpose. So what do you guys think?
- 48:39Do you guys mind if I go first? But what I think.
- 48:45I think this is almost a reaction to the proposed super League from a few
- 48:51years ago, where there was all that outcry protests from Chelsea fans mainly uh
- 48:58and it's just you trying to make extra money. At the end of the
- 49:00day, it's make extra money. Add four more teams. The added games
- 49:07is tough on players. It just seems like they just keep adding games and
- 49:09adding games and then more national team games, and they're just running these players
- 49:15to the ground. I'm not a fan of that. I will say the
- 49:20change in the in the group stage to like more of a league format is
- 49:22interesting. I'm looking forward to that part. The eight games. That's probably
- 49:28where it is a bit too much. You could probably still stick with the
- 49:30six games, do it in the fall exactly like how it is now.
- 49:34But I like the fact that teams are gonna play play eight other teams and
- 49:39you're gonna get a lot more diversity. You're not playing the same three teams
- 49:45twice. Yes, it is nice when you go to that team stadium and
- 49:49then they come to your stadium in the In the current group stage format.
- 49:52That's nice. Uh the extra round of knockout of course adds extra drama.
- 49:57It's gonna be fun, but just there's just something like, you know,
- 50:02round to sixteen, just being in the round of sixteen, being that top
- 50:07sixteen exclusive club. Like, of course they're still gonna be around to sixteen,
- 50:12but you know, if you're gonna add a knockout phase, which I
- 50:15don't even know how many teams, it's apparently teams finishing ninth to twenty fourth,
- 50:22so twenty four of the out of the thirty six teams move on to
- 50:24knockout, So it's it's less than of an exclusive club to be in the
- 50:30Champions League knockout stage. Maybe Melan will make it this time, Adriano,
- 50:35but maybe yeah, maybe you will be there too, but yeah, yeah,
- 50:42it'll be interesting to see. I I yeah, I'm I'm a fan
- 50:46of the extra games, especially yeah, the group stage games. But that
- 50:53that's pretty much it. But like you said, Sean, once once it
- 50:57gets going, once we understand the format, at the end of the day,
- 51:00we're all going to watch in tune in and to your favorite our favorite
- 51:02team, and people are gonna make fun of you. Johnny, how you
- 51:08go. You're muted it, bro, I thought I am mute at my
- 51:15bed. Uh press. I probably remuted it afterwards. Honestly, I'm indifferent
- 51:21to be like I. At the end of the day, it does add
- 51:25more games, So I do agree on that part where it's exhausted on the
- 51:29players and you get lesser quality. One hundred percent I agree with that.
- 51:31So that front, it's going to be problematic. Players are gonna be more
- 51:37prone to get injured or you know, be out of form, where some
- 51:42other crucial games won't be able to be at their top quality. What I
- 51:47do like about is that it changes things up and makes it It gives a
- 51:52new format and like offers more storylines and kind of gives like other T teams
- 52:00a chance at glory when they would usually not be able to get glory.
- 52:05I'm curious to know, like how they're gonna do Europa League now in terms
- 52:07of like before they would shift down the third place finishers of each group down
- 52:12to Europa. Would you make the losers of the knockout round go down to
- 52:15Europa? Is that what's gonna happen. It remains to be seen. I
- 52:17haven't checked too much on details like the whole knockout round idea, because it
- 52:22kind of gives your team a chance at feeling like playing in an elimination game.
- 52:25And as a fan, you get the excitement of an elimination game in
- 52:29Champions League without having to finish top two in the group because a lot of
- 52:31teams are incapable finishing top two. And if you're an owner, you get
- 52:40more Champions League games at your stadium. You get the potential to have bigger
- 52:45market teams come by to like attract more fans to watch the game because they
- 52:51want to see certain players. If you're a fan, you get to watch
- 52:54more Champions League games at at your stadium, so they're always inable. It's
- 53:00it and as Sean started off the show before, it's a fantastic atmosphere.
- 53:04Is something different, you know, so like there there are pros and cons
- 53:09to it. Uh, it is greedy, it is. It is a
- 53:14money grab, a cash grab at the end of the day. And I'm
- 53:16not gonna I'm not gonna be an idiot and say, like you know,
- 53:22it is it's a cash grab at the end of the day, and you
- 53:23know they're milking our players and it just sucks that soccer doesn't have a form
- 53:29of players union, you know, like I think, actually, I don't
- 53:32think they even have one. I don't think they even have a player's union
- 53:36of some sort. You know. So it's you know, like like because
- 53:38I'm pretty sure if there was, they would be greatly opposed to playing more
- 53:40and more games where their legs are going to be destroyed afterwards. As a
- 53:45fan, you get to watch more of your team play and you get to
- 53:47have more exciting moments, so that that makes it fun. But as a
- 53:51human, you know, like you feel for these guys. These guys are
- 53:52gonna get ran into the ground with all these games that they have to play,
- 53:57not to mention international breaks that are in between. You have to squeeze
- 54:02all these games depending on when you're gonna do the World Cup, if you're
- 54:06gonna now that, if you're gonna do it in extremely hot climates. Now
- 54:09you're forced to do winner World Cups. So because that's gonna that's becoming an
- 54:15idea or a thing, you know, Nation League and stuff. Nations League,
- 54:17it's it's it's ridiculous, man Like, it's it's a lot on the
- 54:22body, you know, I mean, we're all fans of multiple sports,
- 54:27and you know, we were used to in North America, we're used to
- 54:29seeing some players play multiple games a week, three four games a week,
- 54:32you know, but you also see the toll on their bodies and like what
- 54:37happens afterwards, you know, like every off season, this X player is
- 54:40getting a cl surgery, why player is getting a hip adjustment Z player,
- 54:45you know, like shoulder shoulder placement surgery or whatever the hell it is.
- 54:50You know, like it's we're gonna see a lot more of that in the
- 54:52off season now if that happens, which seems like it's gonna be happening.
- 54:55So that's like, as a fat excited, but as a human, I
- 55:00feel bad for the players. By the way, Johnny, it doesn't seem
- 55:06that teams knocked out in Champions League will drop down to Europa League, which
- 55:10honestly I'm fine with because you know, in the Champions League, you get
- 55:15knocked out, you get knocked out. Yeah I know, which, Yes,
- 55:19I guess they're just knocked out, and it's just I guess Europa League
- 55:22is just gonna go straight to a just a I agree, agree, Nick.
- 55:28If you're if you're knocked out, you should be knocked out. Dropping
- 55:31them down to another tournament always seemed a little goofy to me. Yeah,
- 55:37I don't agree. It's just what we got used to, this whole thing.
- 55:40Yeah, I know anyway, this whole thing. I mean for me,
- 55:43I'm on the fence too. I mean, at the end of the
- 55:45day that you know this, this sport is a business. We know,
- 55:49we all know it. We can all we can try to avoid that that
- 55:52statement, but guys, it's a it's a business. At the end of
- 55:54the day, the money and the dollar value and revenue and and stuff of
- 56:00that nature is what comes first. It's king right now. It will continue
- 56:05to be that way, adding more games, adding more teams, this whole
- 56:08nine yards it's it's it's deep in their pockets. It's it's no surprise,
- 56:13like it's no, it's nothing new, you know, do I do?
- 56:17I don't. I don't know. Like I'm kind of with sean statement from
- 56:21the beginning, like the knockout. Sorry, the group stages are are pretty
- 56:25cool, Like, I mean, you have to wake up at like the
- 56:29wee hours of the morning to to see the draw, but hey, you
- 56:31know, you get to know that your team is drawn with X, Y
- 56:36and Z club from these different uh you know, nations and in different and
- 56:39different leagues. So I'm kind of a fan of of of the league of
- 56:44the group stage play. I don't know, Like no matter what, it's
- 56:49always exciting if you have a good group or not. I think it's always
- 56:52something to wake up for and and get up for. So, you know,
- 56:57the new format like for US, I guess for if Sadiyah does get
- 57:00an extra team, that would be cool. But we were speaking of it
- 57:04before on off air, like you know, like currently Boone is in fourth,
- 57:07like do they get into this, into this, into this Champions League
- 57:12next season type of thing, so like you know, it's it's it's teams
- 57:15like that that I don't know. I think Johnny kind of alluded to earlier,
- 57:19is like that won't get recognized on the year on the you know,
- 57:22the international stage that might have a chance to do so uh with with an
- 57:28extra spot available in our league. So for that that's exciting. It brings
- 57:32it brings revenues because I don't really care about how the leagues, like I
- 57:37care about SETIA, so like more revenue that comes into SETIA that way,
- 57:39like it's cool, like it's it's it's something positive for our league, where
- 57:45we all know we have many many flaws, so to see that happen can
- 57:47be cool. But I guess, I guess I'm gonna have to agree with
- 57:52what you guys said in terms of once once the lights are on, once
- 57:57the Champions League anthem is on, like, we're gonna have almost no choice
- 58:00but to fall in love with it. Again, nobody's on a boycott this,
- 58:05guys, people are still gonna watch It's it's not gonna be one of
- 58:07those things. So well, you know, you'd be fooling yourself if you'd
- 58:10say you wouldn't. So again, I'm I'm intrigued, but still on the
- 58:16fence about how things how things pan out. But yeah, I think in
- 58:22terms of what I said about, you know, our league bringing in revenues,
- 58:25maybe having that extra team, I think those are the focus points that
- 58:30I think are are are pretty are pretty cool to to look forward to,
- 58:34you know, come when sing all you know kicks off and stuff. So
- 58:37but yeah, I again, it's it's it's a bit weird because I kind
- 58:43of agree with what you said, Nick, you know, in terms of
- 58:45the exclusivity of this termament of this competition might not have that same sort of
- 58:51aura anymore, you know, but hey, at the end of the day,
- 58:55this is what I said. It's a business. It's going to continue
- 58:58to evolve. We're going to probably see continue to see things of this nature.
- 59:01Already. It was weird to not see the awaigle rule when that changed,
- 59:05but thanks God it did. But you know, that was just like
- 59:07an adjustment to get used to. Now this is like a whole other thing.
- 59:09No groups. It's like whoa like I don't know, like I didn't
- 59:14grow up watching watching culture with with with no Champions League groups, you know.
- 59:17So but hey, this is where football is going. You know,
- 59:22we kind of have to expect it at this point. So it's gonna be
- 59:25what it's gonna be. But I know we spoke about Watcho's you know,
- 59:30uh, draw maybe just gonna like go around quickly, you know, just
- 59:36the other draws that did take place Champions Zigue, Europa. So I think
- 59:40it was not way that got Barcelona and inted got who did intake get again?
- 59:46I let it go. Your guys thoughts on that any any because I
- 59:51I from my my point of view, like I think all the all the
- 59:52matchups are pretty tough, you know. If you want to say Lottos has
- 59:58the toughest one other three, I don't know. I still I think they're
- 1:00:01all tough. Can any of them get passed? I can see it.
- 1:00:06I can see I probably getting past. It's gonna be another another tough test
- 1:00:09for that. You know. In champ I think there was no pushover you
- 1:00:15know, Sean, you you got to see that first hand with with lot
- 1:00:17shows groups. So yeah, I don't know, just your guys overall thoughts,
- 1:00:22Uh do these teams get passed to? You know, they have a
- 1:00:24tough time with I think I think Napoli and in Debt both have a great
- 1:00:30chance to go past. I mean yeah, you know, uh in there
- 1:00:36the strongest side in Italy right now. And we saw what they were able
- 1:00:39to do last year in Champions League and you know, if if we're being
- 1:00:44honest, they were the better side in that Champions League final against Manchester City.
- 1:00:49So I think when there's on top of their game, I mean,
- 1:00:52they're gonna they're gonna be tough for anybody to beat. I don't think anybody
- 1:00:55wanted them wanted to match up against in depth, you know, so on
- 1:01:00the other side, Athletico is you know, disappointed in their draw. Right,
- 1:01:06they win the group and they got the toughest Italian side and lots of
- 1:01:10obviously faced up against them, and you know we played them very well at
- 1:01:17home and and then lost that final match. But you know, lots of
- 1:01:22was in that game and it was a side that I felt Lotso had had
- 1:01:28a chance. Again, so int you know, is is a level ahead
- 1:01:31of Lotso, So I think in there, I think there's zero shock with
- 1:01:37whatever happens in that one. Yeah, I take that back. If indeed
- 1:01:43would to get blown out, I'd be shocked, right, I think regardless
- 1:01:45of who advances, I think it wouldn't be surprised. And likewise for Barcelona
- 1:01:52Andnopoly, I mean that this isn't the Barstol of old, you know,
- 1:01:54and and they're they're struggling in their league. I mean they're third in the
- 1:01:59table. Ill Nopoly obviously struggling as well in comparison to the last season.
- 1:02:04But yeah, we know the type of quality they have and Rudy Garcia was
- 1:02:08abysmal for that side, and so they're playing a little bit of catch up
- 1:02:13from that. But I think when you're matched up against Ossiman and and Cavada,
- 1:02:21like those are two players that are world class players that that can beat
- 1:02:25you on any day. So I think Barcelona is similarly, Like they're probably
- 1:02:30disappointed that they got a Napoli side that was the champions of Italy. So
- 1:02:36for me, I look at it as as as those being two really great
- 1:02:39matchups that I want to see. I'm excited. You know a lot of
- 1:02:43history, you know, and links between Barsa and Napoli and the in Maradona,
- 1:02:47which you know, I'm sure they'll run that story into the ground,
- 1:02:51but it's it's an interesting connection and I think, you know, i'd definitely
- 1:02:54wake up if I wasn't a Lots fan, you know, I would tune
- 1:02:59into the those ones before I tune into like to be a disappointing yo lats
- 1:03:07of Byron So Johnny, I mean yeah, Like, like it's well said,
- 1:03:15I think honestly, Ento Atltico is gonna be a fun matchup to watch.
- 1:03:20It's not gonna be something that is It's gonna be like a I don't
- 1:03:24like, like Sean said, like if there's gonna be a blowout, I'd
- 1:03:27be surprised too. I think it's really cool really close. Uh, some
- 1:03:31some pretty exciting moments in that matchup. Barcenopoli is very interesting. I'm not
- 1:03:36saying this is just as Anopoly fan. I just feel like as if it's
- 1:03:38team, it's two teams that you know, you know, Anopotly was the
- 1:03:45school that the winners last year. They're just they're struggling to find some balance
- 1:03:47again and try to fight like they're they're footing. So what's the what's a
- 1:03:52better way than beating you know, one of the most historic clubs, you
- 1:03:55know in terms of it's in La Liga play and just La Liga, but
- 1:04:00also European competition, so uh, be a fantastic matchup. Last time they
- 1:04:04met up did not end well for Napoly, so I'm kind of hoping for
- 1:04:08for a nice little revenge story. I think I think Napoli has a capacity
- 1:04:15to come out as winners in that one, but it's not going to be
- 1:04:18something that I that I expect to happen super easily. You have to like
- 1:04:23respect the opponent. I at the end of the day, it's still Barcelona.
- 1:04:27They still have that magic Latsio. You know what I'm hoping. I'm
- 1:04:30honestly hoping for the upset, you know, like I I think it's a
- 1:04:34team that you know, like I said, they on a good day,
- 1:04:38they can beat any team on a good day. They like like, look,
- 1:04:42they put Napoly in their place in the in the first matchup of the
- 1:04:45season, you know, and it goes to show that when the competitive level
- 1:04:50is a notch above sometimes I feel sometimes they're able to reach to that level
- 1:04:55or push that level. So plus, you know, Harry Kane, I
- 1:04:59have zero f it than the guy. You know, I'm not gonna be
- 1:05:04I'm not I'm not gonna be a but it's it is Harry Kane at the
- 1:05:08end of the day. But uh, I just feel like as if there's
- 1:05:12you know, it is byed, but it's not. It's not something that's
- 1:05:16insurmountable. I do, honestly think Latzio does have a fighting chance. They
- 1:05:25do have some surprises like whenever they need to use them, so I wouldn't
- 1:05:30count them out for that matchup. But if they're gonna let's if not,
- 1:05:35sorry Sean, If there is gonna be a team to lose from the three,
- 1:05:39I think Latsio is the most likely one. And I think and I
- 1:05:42think Napoli is the second most likely one. I think. I think Interns
- 1:05:45they can only guarantee win from Ice from these matchups that I see. The
- 1:05:48other two are possibles, but I think Interest is the only one where I'm
- 1:05:53like fairly confident handing fire, like, yeah, intern should win that matchup.
- 1:05:58It's funny, like I was talking looking to one of my coworkers last
- 1:06:01week, was a Barron fan, and he was telling me how Barron was
- 1:06:04struggling this season, this and that, and he's not confident in them going
- 1:06:09for a Champions League. And sorry Sean, but I don't think last Yo
- 1:06:15was the team to knock them off just yet. You know, maybe they
- 1:06:17won't last past the quarters. I think if maybe it was if it was
- 1:06:20Inter, even Napoli, they could have done it. But lots, you
- 1:06:24know, they're just they just don't They're just a weird team. We discussed
- 1:06:29the Sean, right, you know, Yeah, you don't have to apologize.
- 1:06:31Oh I'm just trying not to lose six to one. Yeah, I
- 1:06:36don't. It's definitely gonna be closer than last time. It's gonna be closer
- 1:06:40than what people expect. But just at the end of the day, Byron
- 1:06:44is the better team I think for them. Obviously, it makes sense why
- 1:06:47they're the favorite. The other two matchups for me is a toss up for
- 1:06:50sure. In the Inter Athletical matchup, for sure, Inter has the advantage.
- 1:06:56I think they're just a stronger team overall. Athletical's fourth in the Lilga
- 1:07:00pretty much. I think they're a point behind BARSA and then both both BARSA
- 1:07:05and Athletical or six points behind uh Girona and Real Madrid. So it's a
- 1:07:13weird Litleiga table this season, but that will be if you're a fan of
- 1:07:18coaching, that's gonna be an amazing matchup. Simone versus Simone and lots of
- 1:07:25legends to lots of legends. And I was just thinking, man, it
- 1:07:28feels like that both on Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of a
- 1:07:33lot of storylines of this. Of course, Diego Simone with his connection Statealy
- 1:07:40and I was just thinking, man, it feels like he's been around forever,
- 1:07:42Like I had to like look up make sure he's still the manager.
- 1:07:45He's been manager there since December twenty eleven, that's twelve years ago he was
- 1:07:48which is crazy is in this in this world of sports to last that longs
- 1:07:54as a coach is crazy, but that's gonna be a tactical warfare. I
- 1:08:00still think I think Inter will be the only Italian team to make it through
- 1:08:03Napoli Barsa. For me, it really depends, like this matchup is what
- 1:08:08two months away? Uh so it really depends how well Napoli adapts to Manzati
- 1:08:15system. Big they're big players are gonna have to step up. For me,
- 1:08:18it's the big players are gonna have to say. It's dependent on It's
- 1:08:21dependent on that for both Napoly and Lot. So if if they have a
- 1:08:25fighting chance, it's it's for me, it's on that their big players have
- 1:08:28to step up and have to have to prove that they're you know, they're
- 1:08:31the big players and they're gonna take this game, these games by the horns
- 1:08:34for sure. Yeah. And for Napoli it's if they're if they go on
- 1:08:38a roll and they're they're well adapted to Manzai and and they're confident team going
- 1:08:43in. Uh, they could do it like this is not Barcia of old,
- 1:08:45This is not the MSN Barsa that won a trouble in twenty fifteen.
- 1:08:50You know, Uh, they're still really good team sure. Yeah, no,
- 1:08:56I think they're still the favorites in this one. I was reading today.
- 1:08:59Apparently if Anapoli loses this one, then you've a wile play in the
- 1:09:03in the twenty twenty five Club World Cup in North America or in the US.
- 1:09:08Uh. So I'm gonna be all on all on Barsia's trains so that
- 1:09:14it comes to North America in twenty twenty five and hopefully I'll be able to
- 1:09:16go to a game. But because you really will be will be sorry because
- 1:09:21you really needed a reason. Yeah, it's just another reason exactly. It'll
- 1:09:25be sure, just because maybe they're gonna come in twenty twenty five. Yeah,
- 1:09:29okay, all right, keep singing that song. Here's the thing I
- 1:09:31read up somewhere that appletly needs to win three games, not not the match
- 1:09:34up against Barsa, so oh yeah, yeah, I read somewhere it has
- 1:09:39to be three games. So uh, I guess we'll find out in the
- 1:09:43future. I'll guess we'll never know before before we wrap it up. Jodd,
- 1:09:49just quickly, Europa Fire Nord again? Is this the part three?
- 1:09:55Is this the trilogy with the fire? Yeah? Yeah, it's it's like
- 1:09:58a sprats increase, like honestly speaking, yeah, bring him on, Bring
- 1:10:05him on obviously. Uh, I I have full faith in Mourinho and European
- 1:10:11competitions. Uh. In league play he's super inconsistent. And you know,
- 1:10:15like, well, mind you what you can't You can only do so much
- 1:10:18when you have al Shawati and and and and Belatia is your friend too right
- 1:10:23now, you know. So it's it's hard. And then you have freaking
- 1:10:26Tammy injured as well. He's not coming till springtime. So uh, it's
- 1:10:30it's kind of it's it's it's it's not the same. It's night and day
- 1:10:34in European competition. So for me, I bring them on, Like like
- 1:10:41I said, one the Conference League went to Europa League Final. For me,
- 1:10:45okay, bring on Part three. Let's have uh, let's have Rocky
- 1:10:47win again. In part three. You know, they were in lots of
- 1:10:54group incredibly incredibly impressive. They they played lots of tough as hell. Uh,
- 1:11:00They're probably the team I was most impressed with. And they've got an
- 1:11:04incredible coach themselves. They're so they're just so well structured and and they fight.
- 1:11:14I you know, I just think that'll be a good matchup. Obviously,
- 1:11:18these two sides now know each other. But probably a little bit biased
- 1:11:23in me, but I'd give the edge to fan Or and I thought they
- 1:11:26looked really really good. Obviously they were, you know, been unfortunate to
- 1:11:29not get out of the group. But uh, I just was really impressed
- 1:11:32with that team that I saw. I mean, they've they've got and now
- 1:11:38I can't remember his name, the Mexican striker on the side. They're just
- 1:11:42they're a good, good, good side. So yeah, I wouldn't wouldn't
- 1:11:46be surprised to see them take that one. Yeah, they're they're they're a
- 1:11:49tough team. They're a tough team for sure. But like Johnny said,
- 1:11:53these teams know each other. I think it's gonna be a fun one trilogy,
- 1:11:58Rocky three, whatever you want to label what I it's it's it's a
- 1:12:00it's a good storyline to have in Europa for me. One just quickly,
- 1:12:04but before we get out of here, I mean this team, we have
- 1:12:10to beat this team. Uh, you know, obviously with the disappointments of
- 1:12:14coming down to Europa, it is where it is. Uh, but this
- 1:12:17is a competition that I hope they take seriously. I think they will.
- 1:12:20It's a tournament, the competition that this team has never won before, So
- 1:12:29I don't see why they don't try to they don't try to go far in
- 1:12:31it. Obviously top four is the goal keeping pace with with you of a
- 1:12:38you know, and and whoever is in fourth place if it's Bologna, and
- 1:12:42if it's not believe Roma, whoever, it is a lot so maybe we'll
- 1:12:45see. But yeah, this is these this is what I would think.
- 1:12:48It's a beatable opponent. I don't really know too much about them. I
- 1:12:50saw that they're a thirteen plains in Ligua. You know, it's it's it's
- 1:12:57still European Nights, even though it's it's the second in tier, still important,
- 1:13:00so me and has to wake up. I would hope in these matchups
- 1:13:04and I'm confident that they that they can that they can strength some some positivity
- 1:13:10and and and go forward in uh in the competition and and see where where
- 1:13:15the competition takes them. But I think that's pretty much it sean, just
- 1:13:19quickly before we go, because we probably won't talk to you for for a
- 1:13:24bit, hopefully maybe before the Euros in the summer, I would hope,
- 1:13:28So just quick thoughts. Uh, it is group. You're twenty twenty four
- 1:13:32before we get out of here. Yeah, I mean it's the toughest group
- 1:13:36i'd say in in Euros, but you know there there's potential for thirteen to
- 1:13:44get out of that group. So look, are Italy is still Italy at
- 1:13:51the end of the day. Right when it comes to tournament play, you
- 1:13:56know, every everybody overreacts and in a like, right, we're done as
- 1:14:01a country. And but it was not even three years ago that we won
- 1:14:05this thing, so you know we we still have the ability to do it.
- 1:14:11I have more faith in us once we're in a competition than qualifying for
- 1:14:15that competition. So now that we're in there, you know, I'm a
- 1:14:20little bit more hopeful. It just seemed like so much baggage when it came
- 1:14:26to qualification, just so so much was just mentally getting in the way.
- 1:14:31And you know, we need players to stay healthy, right, that's Kisa
- 1:14:36has to be healthy. We need our best side. I'm hoping this Spaletti
- 1:14:45starts to look at some of these younger players out there. You know,
- 1:14:48as a La Sallet, I get absolutely frustrated with some of the call ups.
- 1:14:54You know, Romagnoli who last year I thought was one of the best
- 1:14:58center backs in the league and and he can't get a call up at all,
- 1:15:02you know, and you see some of the others that that are getting
- 1:15:04a call mentioned. I think it's it's time, given you know, some
- 1:15:11of the challenges at the regista position, and you know, Georgino is he
- 1:15:18is he really the long term player that we're like relying on. Vela is
- 1:15:24A is a real player, you know, and he is a two way
- 1:15:28player. So you know, I'd like to see some of these guys get
- 1:15:31some looks ahead of that, and and I want to see us play some
- 1:15:35real competition leading up to Euros, which I know Spalletti had come out and
- 1:15:41said he wanted to play some really strong sides. So I'm surprisingly like pretty
- 1:15:46optimistic just because we're in there and and anything can happen. And I do
- 1:15:53know that Italy has a history of banding together when the odds are against them,
- 1:15:59and and you know, when they're not supposed to win, that is
- 1:16:02when they typically win. You know, when there's all the expectation and hype
- 1:16:06and we've got incredible rosters, that's when we've seen the fail. So yeah,
- 1:16:15I'm pretty hopeful. Yeah, well said. I mean, I think
- 1:16:23we we think that they can get out of the group one way or another.
- 1:16:28First is going to be a bit of a stretch. But even if
- 1:16:30they come in second, we'll see about third. I don't know. I
- 1:16:32think it's it's it's possible, just can get out of there. Once you
- 1:16:35get out, it's anybody's game, right exactly. So listen, like we
- 1:16:42said with the Champions the new format, we're still going to watch no matter
- 1:16:46what it is for the year roal. Now that we're in we're going to
- 1:16:49watch. So yeah, hopeful for that. But Tran, just again,
- 1:16:55before we let you go here and what you plug away, just a big
- 1:16:58thanks for your time this evening. We can't thank you enough. You're always
- 1:17:01you're always a pleasurable guy to talk to, especially cultural related anything you know,
- 1:17:06your stuff. Obviously before we let you plug away, which want to
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- 1:17:36thanks to us from you Sean And where can we find you on all social
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- 1:17:45well, thank you guys. Always a lot of fun chatting Cole show,
- 1:17:49you know, and it's let's hope that said. Yeah, we mentioned kind
- 1:17:53of every all these teams and all these matchups and you know, whatever happens
- 1:17:57in Champions League in Europe, we now know we're probably a little bit more
- 1:18:00invested in in some of our fellow city teams doing well, just because selfishly
- 1:18:05it means an added spot uh for for some of us to maybe qualify for
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