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Preventing Burnout: Key Insights from Dr. Natalie Luke · Dispatched & Dysfunctional

Chris Stockton: Today, my guest is Dr. Natalie Luke. studies why the most capable people in any system end up carrying what the system never defined. But we get into any of that good stuff, Dr. Luke, could you introduce yourself without any titles and just tell everybody who you are and what made you say yes to this conversation? And you said something on your form that pretty much the whole damn episode, the ability to handle anything gets mistaken for the ability to carry everything indefinite. And sums up First Response in nutshell. Natalie Luke, PhD: Yes. Well, and you say things go dark, that's part of the stages of burnout. The first stage is engagement. You're all in, you're working it, you're really hard. The second stage is overwhelmed. Like it's too much. And that's where I got to with the fire. And for because ⁓ I realized, my gosh, this is too much. I gotta spread this out. I didn't get the third phase, which is the emptiness.