Latest / Pricing Power Podcast with Fexingo: How Businesses Set Prices, Raise Margins, and Win Customers / How Luxury Watch Brands Price Scarcity Through Controlled Supply
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- Lucas: So you walk into a Rolex boutique, you see a stainless steel Submariner in the display case — but you can't buy it. It's a display model. The salesperson tells you there's a waitlist, but really they're saying no. How does a company that can't keep up with demand not raise prices to clear the market? Luna: That's the puzzle, right? Most businesses dream of having more demand than supply. They'd just raise prices. But luxury watchmakers do the opposite — they keep prices relatively stable, let a secondary market blow up, and somehow that makes them stronger. Lucas: Exactly. Today we're looking at what I'd call the scarcity premium — how Rolex, Patek Philippe, and Audemars Piguet use controlled supply as a pricing lever. Not by raising list prices to market-clearing levels, but by keeping them artificially low relative to demand. Luna: Which sounds counterintuitive. Let's get the scale right first. How many watches does Rolex actually make? Lucas: Roughly one million watches per year. That's been pretty consistent for years. Industry analysts estimate real demand is somewhere between two and three million. So they're deliberately serving maybe a third to half of the people who want to buy. Luna: And they've been doing this for decades. It's not a supply chain issue — they choose to cap production. Lucas: Right. Rolex is owned by the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, a non-profit trust. They're not under pressure to maximize quarterly revenue. That lets them think in generational time frames. Every watch they don't sell today increases future demand and reinforces the brand's exclusivity. Luna: So they're effectively storing value in the brand rather than in the bank account. Lucas: Exactly. And the authorized dealer network is the mechanism. Rolex doesn't sell direct to consumers. They have about 900 authorized dealers worldwide. Those dealers get allocated a fixed number of watches each year — and they have enormous discretion over who gets them. Luna: That's where the 'game' comes in. You can't just walk in and buy a steel Daytona. You have to build a relationship, buy other watches first, maybe wait years. Lucas: Which creates a barrier that's more powerful than a high price. Price is just a number. A waitlist signals that you're being let into something exclusive. The secondary market then reflects the true market price. A steel Rolex Daytona that retails for around $15,000 can trade on the grey market for $30,000 or more. Luna: And Rolex captures none of that premium. The dealer sells it at list, the flipper makes the profit. But Rolex gets something arguably more valuable. Lucas: Brand credibility. If Rolex raised the retail price to $30,000, they'd pocket the margin but lose the narrative. The perception would shift from 'I'm lucky to get one' to 'I paid a lot.' The scarcity is the product as much as the watch itself. Luna: Patek Philippe takes this even further. They explicitly say they don't want to be the biggest — they want to be the most desirable. What's their specific approach? Lucas: Patek produces maybe 60,000 to 70,000 watches a year. Tiny compared to Rolex. But they are more explicit about customer vetting. They talk about 'entrusting' a watch to a buyer. Some dealers interview prospective buyers to make sure they're genuine enthusiasts, not flippers. Luna: And they've famously said they don't want to sell to someone who will just flip it. That's a direct constraint on supply moving to the highest bidder. Lucas: Right. And their pricing strategy reinforces it. A Patek Nautilus 5711 retailed for around $34,000 when it was discontinued a few years ago. Secondary market prices hit well over $100,000. That kind of premium creates an aura — if you own one, you're in a club. Luna: It's interesting because for most industries, grey market sales are a threat. For luxury watches, they're a marketing expense. Every time a watch trades above retail on the secondary market, it's an advertisement for the brand. Lucas: Audemars Piguet does something similar with the Royal Oak. They've been more aggressive recently about opening their own boutiques and buying back inventory from dealers to control the narrative. They actually tried to enforce stricter distribution to limit grey market leakage. Luna: But isn't there a risk? If the secondary market premium gets too high, doesn't it eventually price out the core enthusiast and create a bubble? Lucas: That's the constant tension. Luxury watch prices on the secondary market cooled in 2023 and 2024 after the pandemic spike. Rolex Submariner premiums came down from crazy highs. But the brands managed it well — they didn't panic and flood the market. They stayed disciplined. Luna: So the list price stays where it is, the secondary market fluctuates, and the brand just rides it out. Lucas: Exactly. And there's a parallel here with how some software companies use freemium pricing. The free tier is like the retail price — it's below market value. The premium tier is like the secondary market. Except in watches, the premium is captured by flippers, not the company. But the brand benefit is real. Luna: For companies that produce physical goods, controlled supply as a pricing strategy really only works if you have a moat — either a strong brand or proprietary technology. Anyone else who tries this just leaves money on the table. Lucas: And that's why it's hard to replicate. Rolex has been building that moat since 1905. You can't decide to do this next quarter. But you can learn from the principles: the value of making your product hard to get, the power of a distribution channel that selects for brand advocates, and the long-term payoff of saying no to short-term revenue. Luna: Speaking of long-term perspective — you know, these conversations take a lot of research and prep. If you've gotten something out of them, a couple of dollars a month genuinely makes a difference. Buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo — that's where listener support goes directly. It's what keeps this ad-free. Lucas: Yeah, and we mean that. It's not a big ask — just helps cover the time and tools. Back to the watches though — one more thing I find interesting: the 'price anchoring' effect. When a Patek secondary price hits $100k, the retail price of $34k feels like a bargain. That psychology is powerful. Luna: So the high secondary price actually makes the retail price more attractive, which fuels more demand, which reinforces the scarcity. It's a self-perpetuating loop. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the genius of it. They don't need to advertise scarcity — the market creates it for them. They just have to resist the temptation to sell more. And for a century-old brand with a foundation structure, that's easier said than done, but they've managed it. Luna: One question I hear from listeners: does this model ever break? What's the risk? Lucas: The biggest risk is a shift in taste. If younger generations decide they don't value mechanical watches, the whole edifice crumbles. But so far, the brands have done a good job courting new collectors through limited editions and heritage marketing. Also, the secondary market correction in 2023 showed that bubbles can deflate, but the core demand remained strong. Luna: So the strategy isn't bulletproof, but it's remarkably resilient. Lucas: It's a great case study in pricing as a long-term brand investment rather than a short-term revenue lever. And I think a lot of businesses, even outside luxury, can take that insight — sometimes the best pricing decision is the sale you don't make.