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The Boys Are Back... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. The After Show Podcast. Go ahead. Say
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  Speaker 2: it again.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Matty of Power of Recovery on Justin's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, baby. The After Show Podcast. Welcome back, Matty
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  Speaker 2: and Damon.
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  Speaker 1: Hello.
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  Speaker 2: How are you? Hey.
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  Speaker 1: What day cut me off from the commercial that I
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  Speaker 1: want to say? Oh, I'll say it here.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we record a commercial, a couple of them, before
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  Speaker 2: we do the podcast. We come in every month. You
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  Speaker 2: missed last month. People missed you for sure. They were
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  Speaker 2: sending talkbacks in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We love talkbacks.
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  Speaker 4: We do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that we got Maddie's story, part
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  Speaker 2: one and part two, right? And then we interrupted Maddie's story,
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  Speaker 2: Damon and I. If you haven't listened to that, go
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  Speaker 2: back and listen to it. And then Damon did his story,
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  Speaker 2: part one, and we cut him off. And then there
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  Speaker 2: was no part two because you missed last month. So
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  Speaker 2: now people are asking about that part two.
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  Speaker 5: Justin, I just finished listening to the podcast of Damon's story.
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  Speaker 5: How could you make us wait?
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  Speaker 4: Another month to.
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  Speaker 5: Hear the rest of it. Anyways, yes, he does have
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  Speaker 5: a sexy voice. And also you can.
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  Speaker 2: Who said he had a sexy voice? Did we say that?
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  Speaker 4: I forget.
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  Speaker 3: No, I would never say.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I did.
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  Speaker 4: He's loving his life right now.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on.
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  Speaker 5: Tell that just the way he got started, that he
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  Speaker 5: is still somewhat introverted. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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  Speaker 2: Would you say he's introverted, Damon?
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  Speaker 4: Damon? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, in certain situations.
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  Speaker 4: In certain situations.
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  Speaker 2: Not on a dance floor.
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  Speaker 3: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about that, Damon, actually, the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking about, yeah, early on, getting clean, going
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  Speaker 2: to conventions, and Damon on the dance floor. Matty, you've
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  Speaker 2: obviously seen him dance many times. There's a thing you
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  Speaker 2: guys do on your Instagram when you dance every Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's been a winner in the summertime. I
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  Speaker 4: was getting it in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you bust a move.
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  Speaker 6: Justin, I'm finally getting to the podcast, the Damon Story podcast.
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  Speaker 7: And I just wanted to share, I am 120 days
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  Speaker 7: sober today. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 7: I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 5: I never thought I would really get this far.
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  Speaker 7: And I can't wait to keep going.
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  Speaker 2: And really, it.
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  Speaker 7: Really is partially thanks to you guys.
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  Speaker 8: I really appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: Love you.
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  Speaker 8: Bye.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. She didn't listen to Damon's story. She's 120
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  Speaker 3: days old, but do not listen.
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  Speaker 2: To his story.
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  Speaker 4: I just, I'm hoping she calls, she checks back in with,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like a buck 50 or a buck 80.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be nice.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, please do. Please do. People always check in with that. And,
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  Speaker 2: letting us know how long they've been sober. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it so much. I love having you guys here.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, Justin. This is Jo. I'm back in the U.S.
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  Speaker 8: from the Azores and just once again catching up on
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  Speaker 8: the After Show podcast. Just absolutely love. when you have
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  Speaker 8: the power of recovery guys in, just amazing. Love listening
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  Speaker 8: to the stories, love the energy, and just love how
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  Speaker 8: they do always state that, you know, people do recover.
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  Speaker 8: So just love the message.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I think that's an important thing is that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's the message that we are giving, right?
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  Speaker 2: Is that you can get clean, you can stay clean,
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  Speaker 2: you can live a better life, right? But we also have,
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  Speaker 2: oh my God, we have fun when we do it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't look Sorry. Sorry to interrupt. It's Halloween. It's the
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  Speaker 2: Halloween costume contest. And she just looked into the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on one second.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I just called for this person to come in. Here
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  Speaker 2: she comes. Are you ready for this? Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Holy shit. Oh, my God. Hold on.
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  Speaker 3: You're creeping me out.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on. Good costume, though.
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  Speaker 3: Can we take a picture of that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Do you know who that is? That's G. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you knew who that was?
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  Speaker 4: How'd you know? Are you serious?
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  Speaker 2: You're not supposed to talk. Oh, sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Wow. That's a lot of work. It's the opposite direction
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  Speaker 4: that most women go for Halloween, though. Yeah. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: That fucking nose.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The nose is serious. That's a lot of makeup time
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  Speaker 3: in the morning.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Just note that she's shaking her head yes.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. God, if you don't win the Halloween costume contest,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. That thing's rigged.
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  Speaker 4: Is there like a legitimate prize involved? 500 bucks. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I would be dressed up like that too. Costs are
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  Speaker 4: like 15 for that costume.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 7: You'll cover like half of what I spent.
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  Speaker 1: On all my Halloween costumes.
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  Speaker 2: All of them?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, we can hear you. That's a podcast.
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  Speaker 3: We're on the podcast.
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  Speaker 6: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for people that don't know that are listening, Gianna
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  Speaker 2: from the V-Bros in the afternoon is the Terrifier in
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  Speaker 2: a Santa outfit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Terrifier 3. It's a terrible movie, but.
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  Speaker 4: You watched it? Of course I did. Look at the chin, too, dude.
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  Speaker 4: She's like... You know she's freaking me out. No, she's
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  Speaker 4: done some legitimate work. I'm hoping you guys make sure
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  Speaker 4: you post pics on Insta about this, because she's like...
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. If you don't win, G, honestly, there's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: I will go home.
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  Speaker 2: There's a fix. Oh, there we go. There's a fix. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you want to hear a funny story about the costume?
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't there for this, and she can speak to it, too.
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  Speaker 2: But Ashley on Jammin' had a live show last Friday
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  Speaker 2: in Salem, right, at a bar.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And Gianna showed up as the terrifying.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: No, listen. Our boss, Dylan, was there, and she kept
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  Speaker 2: going up to him next to him and honking the horn,
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  Speaker 2: annoying him. He had no idea it was her. He
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  Speaker 2: got so mad, he goes, get the fuck away from me.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 6: He was like– allegedly he was like, that is so
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  Speaker 6: annoying to like somebody else.
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  Speaker 7: But he had no idea it was me. He claims now.
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  Speaker 7: He's like, I knew it was you the second you
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  Speaker 7: walked in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, OK. No, you didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks, everybody. Thanks for letting me infiltrate.
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  Speaker 4: This is amazing.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stop looking at it. It's very weird.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, and now everyone's like, okay, it's over. I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: so do I just take it off?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know what to do. You're going to
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  Speaker 4: ride that shit over the gate.
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  Speaker 7: I guess so.
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  Speaker 4: No, y'all handle seven or something, aren't you?
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  Speaker 2: Eight, seven, 30?
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  Speaker 1: Six.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, God. No, he did it. We're two to seven.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to do the show as the Terrifier?
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  Speaker 7: I wasn't going to, but I think I have to.
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  Speaker 2: The eyes are just creeping me out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I put colored contacts in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you did?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's why.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Every year.
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  Speaker 4: She don't play, dude. You don't understand. I do not
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  Speaker 4: mess around.
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  Speaker 2: No, this is your holiday, huh?
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: This is my Super Bowl. I spend so much money.
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  Speaker 6: This actually was my boyfriend's costume last year that I
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  Speaker 6: forced him to do.
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  Speaker 7: And then I was like, I'll just reuse that prosthetic.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he was Terrifier last year?
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  Speaker 7: He was like normal Terrifier.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Because in Terrifier 1 and 2, it's just him in
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  Speaker 6: a black and white clown costume. And then Terrifier 3, he, like,
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  Speaker 6: kills somebody dressed as Santa and puts the.
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  Speaker 4: Santa costume on.
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  Speaker 2: And she's got blood all over the house.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, she definitely is.
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  Speaker 3: Just that I used to say Halloween used to be
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  Speaker 3: my favorite.
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  Speaker 4: No, this kid, I'm telling you right now, Halloween was
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  Speaker 4: his Super Bowl. Early on in recovery, it was wild.
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  Speaker 2: Wild.
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  Speaker 4: You? His cousin used to throw a— I know we're.
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  Speaker 9: Not doing— I' m not doing all that, dude. They can figure
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  Speaker 9: that out on their own. I'm not going to talk
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  Speaker 9: about all his costumes. It's not appropriate nowadays, but— He was–
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  Speaker 9: he had some amazing, amazing costumes.
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  Speaker 4: His cousin would throw a party every year and we'd
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  Speaker 4: all go and he went all out. I haven't seen– actually,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how he did it because we couldn't
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  Speaker 4: even afford to buy the kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Costumes that– I borrowed the money from my boss.
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  Speaker 2: Give us one.
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  Speaker 4: Give us one. The two that I would give you,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I can.
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  Speaker 6: Elvis.
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  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: Elvis.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Apollo, Creed, and Tupac. Those are the two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, because of blackface. Is that why?
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  Speaker 9: Dude, no.
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  Speaker 2: He went full shirtless.
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  Speaker 4: Tattoos. It was wild.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: Are there pics of this?
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  Speaker 4: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: I'll track them down. I'll track them down.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, it was, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's got them on his phone? Of course he does, dude.
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  Speaker 1: They're somewhere here.
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  Speaker 2: I like how the Terrifier is not speaking. It's creeping
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  Speaker 2: me out. It's just sitting there. Oh, my God. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is crazy. Wait, so are you dressing up this year, man?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: No, he stopped.
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  Speaker 3: I stopped a couple years back.
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  Speaker 4: He was still doing it because then what happened when
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  Speaker 4: he had the kids, we moved the potty to his
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  Speaker 4: house and it was just like us. And he would
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  Speaker 4: still go a little crazy. I think the last good
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  Speaker 4: one he had because he's bald, he did something like
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  Speaker 4: he had the head split open. He got good makeup
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  Speaker 4: done like he had the head split open.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see that. Pull that up for me. Let
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  Speaker 2: me see. Dude. Hey, no, I'm telling you, Justin, am
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  Speaker 2: I lying?
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  Speaker 4: Am I lying?
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that. I'm telling you, you can't now.
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  Speaker 2: You can't now. You could then.
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  Speaker 4: It was everybody, all of our friends, and I mean
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  Speaker 4: every one of our friends were like, oh, my God. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: I won three years in a row.
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  Speaker 2: That was good enough to win a contest.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Tupac, Elvis, who else?
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  Speaker 4: Apollo Creed.
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  Speaker 2: Apollo Creed.
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  Speaker 3: Apollo Creed was great.
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  Speaker 2: That is pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Again, with shirtless, he had the Creed shirt, the USA
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  Speaker 4: shorts on, dude. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, the kid that you want to talk
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  Speaker 4: about the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see. All right, what's this one?
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  Speaker 4: Hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Let's pull it up. Okay, man.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's a good thing you don't dress up anymore?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's a really good thing. Well, dude, listen.
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  Speaker 4: Let's be perfectly honest. This is what happens. People look
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  Speaker 4: at that and go, oh, my God. But there was
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  Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that then. There was no– No, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Different times. Absolutely. Different times.
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  Speaker 4: And now people look back and go, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: You're a terrible– Whoever takes it out of context, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: He don't care. I don't really care.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're done anyway.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Gianna, thank you very much. Terrifier. OK. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: That was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you very much. OK.
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  Speaker 8: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That was, like, really creepy. I'm going to post that video.
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  Speaker 1: You're not testing to do Damon's second verse.
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  Speaker 4: Nah, I mean, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: The what? The part two.
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  Speaker 4: We said second verse.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe because I'm a rapper.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get to your part two. But I
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  Speaker 2: want to know how you guys are. Are you guys good?
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  Speaker 2: Everything good in your world?
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  Speaker 3: Amazing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Anything new to report here at Power or Chelsea's House?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're growing.
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  Speaker 2: New house? Yep.
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  Speaker 4: New house for Chelsea's House. We had a little grand opening.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that. Yeah. I wish you were there.
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  Speaker 2: Where is it?
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  Speaker 4: It's in Lynn, 24 Baker Street. It's a sick house.
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  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, dude.
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  Speaker 6: It's sick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were talking to me before we did the
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  Speaker 2: podcast about the whole process of what it's like to
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  Speaker 2: own houses. And I was like, how do you manage those?
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  Speaker 2: You have managers in every one. You have people that
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  Speaker 2: do maintenance. It's a whole project.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it has to be because to provide the care
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  Speaker 4: that we need to provide for them. So like the
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  Speaker 4: one thing that we promise every resident that comes in
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  Speaker 4: is a clean, safe environment.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And so in order to do that, we have to have.
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  Speaker 4: The maintenance team, we have to have live-in house managers,
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  Speaker 4: middle management, upper management. Everybody is constantly checking on the
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  Speaker 4: care and well-being of not only the residents but the house.
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  Speaker 2: And how many houses do you have total right now?
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  Speaker 1: 14 right now.
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  Speaker 2: And all on the North Shore, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Revere.
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  Speaker 2: No Revere? Lynn.
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  Speaker 4: Lynn, Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, furthest one away is East Boston, Boston.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. We've got a couple on the other heights.
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  Speaker 3: Chelsea.
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  Speaker 4: Chelsea.
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  Speaker 2: So say somebody is listening to this right now and
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  Speaker 2: they themselves or a family member or a friend needs
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  Speaker 2: sober living.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. OK.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, can we say how much it is?
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  Speaker 2: Is that something we can say or not?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. There's no secrets. We're not doing anything. It's $ 240
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  Speaker 4: a week.
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  Speaker 2: And what do you need to move in?
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  Speaker 4: $ 480 in total. You pay your first and last week
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  Speaker 4: when you move in.
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  Speaker 2: $ 480 will get you in.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 9: OK.
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  Speaker 2: And what does that come with? Do you get your
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  Speaker 2: own room? Do you share a room? Is it different options?
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  Speaker 4: So we only have single rooms with one occupant or
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  Speaker 4: two-person rooms. From the moment we started, we knew. Him
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  Speaker 4: and I had a ton of experience in our own
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  Speaker 4: personal journeys with going to sober living and having people
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  Speaker 4: stacked on top of each other and six guys in
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  Speaker 4: a room, and we knew we were never going to
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  Speaker 4: do that. The closest thing you can have to privacy
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  Speaker 4: is having one roommate, and that's what we did. So
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  Speaker 4: the 240, everybody that moves in, they move into a
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  Speaker 4: two-person room, and then They graduate into a single room
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  Speaker 4: as they become open and buy seniority in the house.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's almost better sometimes, especially when you're new
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  Speaker 2: to be with somebody else. Quick story. When I was
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  Speaker 2: in a sober house, my last one I was in,
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  Speaker 2: I had a roommate and he had been there for
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  Speaker 2: a while, highly respected. Everyone looked up to this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Here I was just getting clean. And we would go
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  Speaker 2: to bed– when I first started living with him, he
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  Speaker 2: would get on his knees and pray. And that was
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: something that I would never do, right? But like this
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: guy was– this kid was– everyone looked up to this kid.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: So the fact that I saw him on his knees praying–
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: and he would do it openly and people would walk by.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: And I asked him. I said, what are you doing?
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: And he told me. And that's how I started to
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: pray was because of him. I would never get on
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: my knees, right? Never, ever humble myself. But I was like,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: this dude is cool and he's doing it. So I
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: started as well. So– I see what you mean.
• 12:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: All right. So if people need that, where do they
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: reach out to?
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: Real simple. We've got two different avenues to take. The
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: easiest one really is to go to the website because
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: you can fill out the application there as well. So
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: it's Chelsea's House dot com. And just so people hear
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: it clearly, it's C-H-E-L-S-E-A-S House, Chelsea's House dot com. Or
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: you can call Mari at the office and that's 781- 666-3752.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: She answers the phone like all the time.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: You like how I asked Damon that question, not you, Matty? Yeah, yeah.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: He knows right off the top of his head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: I think he went the long way to get there,
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: but you.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: It's what I tend to do anyways on a regular basis.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: All right, so in power, everything's good at power?
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to reach out, you can call
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: Damon on his cell phone at.
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, you get the phone number?
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: No, don't do that.
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: Why is he doing that?
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Well, people that are new listeners that are hearing us
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: for the first time, Those are the houses, Sober Living,
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: that you own, but you also have Power of Recovery,
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: which is an outpatient day treatment center.
• 13:26
  Speaker 8: Correct.
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: Correct. And we have multiple tracks. We have like an
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: SUD track for people that are struggling with any form
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: of alcoholism or addiction.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: What's SUD?
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: Substance Use Disorder. So that's why I added the alcoholism
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: or addiction. Addiction. And then we also have like a
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: separate track because sometimes people are just struggling with mental
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: health issues like anxiety, depression, especially this time of year.
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: A lot of that stuff comes up for people. And
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: so you don't even have to be struggling with any
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: kind of alcohol or drugs to call us for some help.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: Then we have our 24D program.
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, the first offenders.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: Drunk driving offense.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: And then we have recovery coaches.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: So if you get arrested for a drunk driving offense,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: it's mandatory you take this class.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, unless you get found not guilty of the charge.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Once you have a disposition on your case of being guilty,
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: they'll definitely mandate this class.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. We do it. And you have sober coaches, recovery coaches.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Recovery coaches.
• 14:28
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: And we have a relapse prevention program.
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: And then we also have like a family group that
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: we do once a week. And we do that for
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: family members. You don't even have to– no one has
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: to be a patient at Power of Recovery for you
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: to join that group. Yeah. So that's available too. You
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: can check our website and our Instagram and all that stuff.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I think might be fun?
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: What's that? There's a lot of people listening to this podcast.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are affected by what we deal in.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of families listening. Why don't they call back
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: into you?
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Talk back.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: And tell us what's needed. We could put that into work.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying?
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I do. Yeah.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: What have you sought out?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: To help you with your addiction or mental health and
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: can't find.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you just heard what they have. What could
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: they do to improve it? Exactly. Leave a talk back.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Where's it falling short?
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it's falling short.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: But somebody out there right now is looking for help
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: with something.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Somehow.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really bad out there.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: What are you hitting a wall against?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: We could take that wall down.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: It's really bad. I mean I talked about it before.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: My friend, 20 years, he went out. He's doing okay
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: today but he's like off and on with it and
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: he just can't– he can't get it together. He woke
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: up the monkey, the gorilla.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: He's back.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: And you mentioned the family thing too. I recommended that
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: to his wife because his wife is not an addict
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: or alcoholic. And she got with him after he got sober.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: So she had never seen him using, right? And so
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: now she sees what's happening and she doesn't know how
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: to deal with it. She's calling me. I did recommend
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: that because that would be good for her, right? Someone
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: who's not in recovery, never used and trying to deal
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: with him and his addiction.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: We do that.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's really, really tough. So, all right.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Send a talk back. Very good. A talk back can
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: be placed on the iHeart app when you listen to
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: this podcast. So you can listen on. What does that sound?
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Does that mean?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Are you serious right now? Is Damon listening to love music?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: We know who that is.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: I'm actually Damon Weinberg's wife.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is that Katie?
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Wow. That wasn't her. I started looking at you guys
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: triggered thought with me. So while you two were chopping
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: it up about talkbacks. I was looking at because I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: know we also have Power of Hope, which is the
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: adolescent mental health place, and we also are just starting
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: a family support group for that, which is, again, another.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Free service we're offering.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Loved ones, your parents or
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: guardians have kids or young adults that, you know, are
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: struggling and you're not sure what to do. And even
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: just looking for support, not necessarily looking to come into
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: the program. We have a family support group that's starting
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: November 4th for that. Again, another free thing and someone
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to be.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: That's Power of Hope. Yes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: So Power of Hope, we didn't even mention that, is
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: your adolescent mental health.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: That's what he was trying to do.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I think he was trying to do a shameless plug.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's called a segue. Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I'm so shameless when it comes to that stuff.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, yeah. So Power of Hope is an adolescent
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: mental health outpatient program. Right? Correct. Did I get that correct?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: You guys have a lot going on.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Busy, busy. No wonder why you missed a month.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Sorry about that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable. All right.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So, Damon, last time you were here, you both were here.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: You told your story. Just like Maddie, you told it
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: right up until you got clean. And then we kind
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: of stopped there because there was a lot. I mean, look,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that happen in active addiction.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: We all have our stories.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So now we want to pick up. So after you
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: get clean, hooking up with Maddie. Well, no, we're not like.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: He talked about like naked in the halfway house and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: stuff like that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: That was the start of my last one. Well, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: just wanted to bring it up on this story to
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: refresh the people. I'm pretty sure we talked about my–
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: We might have teased that. Yeah, okay.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Did we?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just retell it for the people that, you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: it's been two months since you've been here.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I know. I know.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: It makes sense.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: We did probably– I think you're right.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: We did.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. We said we'll hold off.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: That was right before you got clean? Yeah. Yeah, that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: was the start of my last run.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Actually, I had made it into a program who will
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: remain nameless, but it was an all-male program located in Somerville. And,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: you know, I was there and they had certain rules
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: to go by and, you know, there's curfews and times
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you can go out in the morning. And I had
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: just connected with a friend of mine and got a
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: job with him in, again, a place that will remain nameless.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: And he was working in the deli and I was
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: working the counter. We were close to each other and
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: he was already using and I was on my way
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to a relapse. And so that that night, you know, working,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I basically stole a bunch of money and I copped
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: some drugs that evening and got high with my buddy.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: And made it back to the program like just in
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: time before the doors closed, 11 p.m. curfew. And, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I hadn't used in a little while, so it was like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: you know, I had gotten some heroin and– And so
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: like it was the first time I got high in
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: a while. I'm like– and I know people don't know
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: but like it was like kind of like an energetic
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: kind of high. Like I wasn't really able to sleep
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: and I was like doing different things. I was like
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: just an idiot in a program in a bedroom with
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: like three other guys, two other guys. And I was
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: up half the night and I kept like folding laundry
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: and organizing stuff and then like trying to sleep and
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: I couldn't.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And it was a Saturday.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Going into Sunday. And, and that, uh, routine I had
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: was that my girlfriend at the time would pick me
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: up and take me to, we'd go to church together
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: on a Sunday morning. And I was like around four
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: in the morning. I was like, I got a good idea.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go like do another, uh, shot of
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: of heroin before i go um and it gives me
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: enough time the doors open.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: At five o'clock so you go out on the porch
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and smoke cigarettes she would.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Pick me up around eight i'm like this perfect time
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: and it couldn't get any better to just you know
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: get a little bit no one will know i'm high
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and and um i went into the to the bathroom
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: in the program and and uh i went to a
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: bathroom stall and I looked at what I had in
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: front of me and I was like, Oh, it looks
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: like a lot. And I wasn't on like no mission
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: of like, Oh, this is, you know, fuck it. Like
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I'm going to just, I just was like, Oh, it
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: looks like a lot. No big deal. Like just kind
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: of like a normal addict thing of just not necessarily
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: like being worried about consequences. And so, uh, last thing
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I remember is, is, is doing that shot. And, and, um,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and then I, I, I, the next thing I remember
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: was feeling like I was being woken up from a
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: deep sleep and, and I was like, They're.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Going, Damon, Damon, Damon.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, and they're asking me questions. And the question
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: that came through, I heard the most that I answered was,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: did you do anything besides the heroin? And so like
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: finally I like felt like someone woke me up from
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: a deep sleep and I was mad. Like why– like no. No,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't. And like as they continue to ask me questions,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I'm starting to come out of the clouds and realize
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: and like, oh, I shouldn't be answering questions like this.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: What's going on? And I like open my eyes and
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I look around and I got someone– I'm laid out
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: on the floor. I got someone next to me, a
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: medic it turns out to be, and I look around
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: and there's like– you know, five, six, seven people kind
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: of like standing around the bathroom. Like I see one
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: guy that worked at the program, a couple of the EMTs,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: like men and women, like it was just like, you.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Know, they're all staring at you. Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: They're all, well, a couple of them are drinking coffee
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: and talking like nothing happened. Like, you know what I mean?
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Like they've been used to seeing stuff like this. And, and, um,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: and after a couple more, like another minute of question
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: and the guy looks at me and goes, Hey, you
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: can put your clothes back on. I went, huh? And
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I'm like looking up at him. And then I like
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: looked down and I went, Oh man, Yeah, like– Butt naked?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Butt naked. Dude, like being a good addict, I went
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: into the stall. I shut the door and I sat
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: down on the toilet but I dropped my pants to
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: make it look– in case someone came in at four
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: in the morning and they were like, oh, is he
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: really going to the bathroom? I dropped my pants and
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: then when they came in to work on me, they
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: ripped my shit off up top to like bring me
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: back to life. So then I was like, oh, all right.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I'm on the bathroom– the cold. I would like to
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: make a disappointment. The cold bathroom. Bathroom floor.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: So your pants are on your ankles.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: So you got caught with your pants down.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: 100%. And like I said, there's men, women, and there
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: may have been a couple of kids. And I have
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: no idea. It was like wild. It was nuts in there. Literally.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: And it was cold. Again, I would really like to
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: reiterate that it was cold. And so I start, like,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: shimmying my pants up from my ankles while I'm laying down.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: The guy's like, you can stand up. I was like, no, no,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I'm good, dude. I'm good.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I can picture you trying to just get them all the.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Way up over. Yeah, it was so bad. And then,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: you know, I was on, like, the third floor. So then, like,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: they got me up.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: They walked me.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, they took me over to the hospital.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: And my head started thinking like an addict right away.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: First of all, I left the rest of my drugs
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: at the program.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Did they hit with Narcane?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 100%.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So when people overdose, they give you what's called Narcane
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and that kind of. jolt you back to life yeah.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: It clears out your receptors momentarily and it allows you
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: to kind of like breathe again and and um and
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: it doesn't actually make the drugs disappear from your system
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: it just clears the receptors long enough for them to
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: be able to kind of provide you like you're still
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: going to be a mess and then you're going to
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: feel terrible because it's like you know uh entering a
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: uh a chemical into your body that's like opposite of
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: what you're looking for um and so again my attic
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: brain just started working and it got crazy and i
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: went from like you know, I went from, like, worrying
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: about what happened to figuring out how I was going
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: to get away with it. And as I mentioned earlier,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: it was the start of my last run. So, like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: when it first happened, you know, I want to go
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: on AMA, which is Leaving Against Medical Advice. So you
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: have to sign a paperwork. They know that you're not
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: healthy enough to leave. And in order for me to, like, take,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: you know, tubes and stuff out of me and monitors
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: off of me, I had to sign paperwork saying that
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I understood it was against their advice for me to leave.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: That's AMA, Against Medical Advice. And then I walked back
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to the program. I was in a hostel and I
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: walked back to the program because I still had enough
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: time to get back there. I needed to get my drugs.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I knew I still had two full bags of drugs
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: that I had hidden in my room before all that happened.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And I needed to grab some clothes and stuff and
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: start making excuses. And so I did that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I went back there.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I got to the program, knocked on the door.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: They were like– everybody was looking at me like, yo,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: what the– Like what?
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, yeah. I just need to grab
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: some stuff. They let me in. I, I, I grabbed
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: my stuff and left. And then, um, my girl at
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the time pretty much knew right away there was something
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: wrong with me. Um, But it took about 24 hours
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: before everybody in my family and in my world that
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I cared about knew that I was relapsing, getting high.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: And it was the first time in like about three
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and a half years that I had relapsed. I had
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: some place to go. I had a couple of dollars
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: and I didn't have to hide it from anybody. And
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: so I was like, all right, I got a real
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I can go on like a real little run here
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: and enjoy getting high. Um, and that's just not how
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: it went at all. It was like, you know, within
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: five to seven days I was already like cooked and
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I wanted nothing to do with what I was doing.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: It was, it was really, really bad. And, um, I
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: was already, uh, using more than my, my little minuscule
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: paycheck could cover and, and trying to figure out ways
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: how to like get more drugs.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And so you're working at a deli.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Deli can remain nameless. Um, and, uh, So like, again,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I'm at that point where I can't afford, uh, you know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I'm doing so, so, um, I connect with a kid
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: that I knew from earlier on in life, but didn't
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: really know much of them since we both started using
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: heavy drugs, but, um, we were going to go boost,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: which is a nickname for shoplifting. Right. So we went
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: to a store, um, up, uh, near the mall and,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: and PBD, and we went in and we're going to
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: boost some jackets and stuff like that. So, He brought
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: a little thing in to clip off the security tags
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: and him and I went in. Dude, I went– you
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: see the sweatshirt I got on right now?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I had a sweatshirt on like this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Like it was like pretty form-fitting sweatshirt and then like
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I took it off and put on like three Under
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Armour jackets and then put my sweatshirt back on.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Form-fitting.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, I was as healthy as I can be.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Classic boosting story.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: And so like I look like a football player like
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the store. And apparently this kid
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: had come hit this store a few times. So as
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: me and him are getting ready to leave, he's going
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: out ahead of me like by a few feet. And
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I noticed the store clerks like at the door ready
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: to go. They got the BlackBerry phone out. That tells
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: you how long ago it was. And they're recording him
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: like walking from where he is to go through the
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: alarms and go out the door. So they have it
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: on camera to prove that– he stole the jackets and,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: and it, what threw him off as we had cut
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: the alarms off and they didn't realize it. So, but
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: in this time I had what's called a moment of
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: clarity and I'm watching this go on in like slow motion.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Oh my God, we're screwed. We're about to
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: get arrested. Like, what am I doing? My name's going
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: to be in the newspaper. Like I'm going to look
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: like a fool to my family and everybody around me. Again,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I had over the three and a half years from
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: May of 2006 to that point of, of September, October, 2009, uh,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I had had different stretches of being arrested. in recovery, right?
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: Like having, you know, sober time, having clean time, having
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: recovery time, like, and it just all rushed into me, like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: even though I was high and a mess and all
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: that stuff, like, it was just so clear, the thoughts
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: of like, I know a better way of life, like,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: what am I doing?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I can't, I'm done.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I can't do this anymore. And, and And that three seconds,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I felt like 40, kind of shook out, and I
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: watched the clerks getting confused, so I dipped out the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: left side of the store. They didn't really notice me,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: and he was walking out too, and they didn't do
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: anything because the alarms didn't go off. But I knew
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: they were recording. He had no idea, so I said, hey,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: we got to get out of here. you know, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I'm done using. So of course, like a very good addict,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: we went and sold all the stuff we stole and
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I got high.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. You have the moment of clarity, but
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: not enough of a moment to not get high again.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Not yet, but I knew. And so I called my
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: family and I was like a weird, I call it
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: a weird addict, but like, I was like, Hey, I
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: need help. I need a week and I'm going to
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: go to detox. And when I did that, I like
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: really meant it. I was like, I'm going to take
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: a week. There was reasons for it. Like, I didn't
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: want to be a burden on my family and that
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: week was going to allow me to have like one
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: more paycheck so that like when I went in somewhere,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: people didn't have to come– like I had my own
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: money to cover myself for a few weeks that someone
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: just had to like distribute to me. And so I
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: did and that started my journey like that. And October 13,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: 2009 is when I went into detox for the last time.
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: Wait.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, my god.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: That's coming up.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: It just passed.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I texted you on that. Yeah. You sure did.
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So how many years is that?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: 17, dude.
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Crazy. Crazy.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: How much? Just a little bit more than Matty.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Well, Matty, you know, we heard his story. He had
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: a little slip up, which is fine.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Just think if he didn't.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It's not a race.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. But I'm in the lead. He's
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: got what?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Six months more?
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's the greatest six months of my life, though.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? But, yeah, dude, so, like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: that was it. Like, 10-13-09, it was the week mark
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: of after all that stuff happened, and, you know, I
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: was ready. Like, dude, it was nuts, too, because, like,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I called, and I knew, like, so I already started
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: my progress, my process, rather. I called my brother, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I was like, hey, man, I got to get out
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: of this place, and I need a week. And he
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: also worked in the same city that I was in.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Here's the difference.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He worked.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: It was in Cambridge. I worked in Harvard Square at
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: a deli and he worked at Harvard.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: That's– Okay.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: That's– You can't get any more.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Like that's it. He's still there actually. He works at the–
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: What does he do? He's a QA guy for like programming.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: So they build programs for the students. Nobody knows he's like– Yeah. No, literally.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: It's wild.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: But he does it.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: He's good at it. And he gets to go to
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: school there too. So, like, you know what I mean?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: He's getting a hobbit education.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I bet he's wicked smart.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Wicked smart, which is why I should have done the
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Logan thing.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Well, you're smart, too. I feel like all the Weinbergs
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: are smart. With a name like Weinberg. It goes with
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the territory, dude.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? They pull us aside early and, hey,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: you can't disappoint the tribe.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you did pretty good for yourself.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Not too bad.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Not too bad. I took a detour. You know what
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I mean? But not too bad. So, yeah, man. So
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I called my brother. I said, hey, I need some help.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I got to get out of this apartment, but I
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: need a week before I'm ready to go in. I
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: said to him, just so you know how this thing works,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: I still have to use every day until I go in.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: He goes, oh, he doesn't know nothing from a hole
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: in the wall outside of what he's seen, which isn't
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: a lot. Sure, just don't use in my house. I'm like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: no problem, bro. Like, you know, we won't go into
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: too much detail about how much I use in his house. But,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: you know, it was enough to make sure I got by.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: But he, dude, my brother and sister-in-law, they had little kids.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: They just had his youngest daughter at that time. She
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: was like two months old. You know what I mean? So, like,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: they went out on a huge limb. And he had
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: already seen all the damage I'd done to my family
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: over the years. Like, and, you know, if they didn't
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: do that, I don't know if I would have made
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: it out. I really don't. You know what I mean?
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: So.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Um, you know, having that opportunity and like, he would
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: drive me in, drop me into my work and stuff.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Like it was, you know, they, they did a lot
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: for me early on, like older brother or younger, older.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I'm right in the middle. I'm the little middle. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: got older brother, older sister, little sister.
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: Oh, right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: So who calls herself my, my big little sister, not
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: because she's big, but she's always been more of an
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: adult than I have most of my life. Um, yeah, dude.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So that's out of my process.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: And I went in on 10, 13, Oh nine. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: normally when I go in somewhere, I'm trying to get
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: into aftercare. So you go into detox for the medical
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: separation where there's 24-hour nursing care and they're watching to
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: make sure you don't like get sick or need hospitalization.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: And then normally I would go into what's called aftercare,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: which you go in and you get treatment for an
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: extended period of time where you're still under– you're just–
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: you're going from a 24-hour nursing care to 24-hour care
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: but not– like there's still a lot of– boundaries and
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: staff available to you like you're inside of a program.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: So you're not like free to do whatever you want.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: You're still getting what I need early on as as
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: an addict and recovery is support and boundaries.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: And I was in the detox for a few days
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: and I couldn't get I couldn't there was no open
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: beds at an aftercare.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That happens.
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Regularly.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: So Um, they sent me home when, when the detox
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: was complete and I started, um, I was living at
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: that time with my girlfriend and Everett, my parents were
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: in Malden and then both my sisters and brother were
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: in Peabody. And I knew that I couldn't be trusted
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: and I knew that I couldn't be left alone. So
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: we began kind of like my own, um, restriction period, right?
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Where like my, my girl worked from home three days
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a week and in the office two days a week. Um,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: But whatever, I couldn't stay in the house. So like
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: in the morning, my parents would come from Malden. They'd
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: pick me up at her house. They'd bring me up
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: to PB and I'd hang out at one of the
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: three houses. Like there were different schedules for different people.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: My parents watched my brother's kids in the morning. So
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: sometimes I hung out there.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You were like a kid.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Dude, it gets– Like babysitting. Worse, dude. Like– I would
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: be like that. My older sister, ironically, is a bartender.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: And so she would be around a lot during the days.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And my younger sister was an EMT at the time.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: She's a nurse now. But again, same thing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: With the shifts.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Someone would always be around to watch me. And they
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: all pitched in to watch me. And dude, it's so
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: bad that you want to talk about being a kid.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day, my parents would take
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: me back from Malden to Everett. And if it was
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: an office day, I had no keys. I had no
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: cell phone. They would have to sit with me and
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I'd have to wait on the porch if my girl
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: wasn't home yet because I couldn't get into the apartment.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to. I was only allowed to go
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: to a couple of meetings down the street and it
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: was perfect. Like everything happened to me and the way
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: it happened to me is all for a reason. It
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: was all God working in my life. I was only
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: allowed to go to a couple of meetings that were
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: within walking distance of my house that my girlfriend could
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: walk by with our dog and check on me to
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: make sure I was like literally at the meeting. And
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: that was NA meetings.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: What ever happened to that dog?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Why are you doing that, dude?
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just asking.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know why you're doing that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know why to ask that question.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: What happened to the dog? I mean, obviously, I'm 17
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: years sober. There's a very good chance that the dog's dead.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Yeah.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: It's sad.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Is it emotional for him?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I just asked a question.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a jerk.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: He should be asking more about the relationship rather than
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: the dog.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I already know what happened in the relationship.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, with the girl? Wait, so what happened to the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: dog of old age?
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the dog.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: What was the dog's name?
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: We got another dog. It was Sasha and I can't
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: remember the other dead dog's name.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I can't. I mean, I just let him tell 30
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: minutes of his story uninterrupted.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I didn't get the same respect.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Valid point, actually. Valid point. So is there anything weird
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: with the dog here?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: No, not at all. I don't know why he's asking
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: a question like that. He hates dogs. I hated dogs.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: He doesn't anymore. He's got his own little puppy now.
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And the girlfriend is what happened to her?
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not dead, but she's dead to me.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's not.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: I'm actually Damon Weinberg's wife.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It's not her. This is a previous girlfriend.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: No, the girlfriend's not dead to me. She did all
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: she could. I turned out to be a terrible boyfriend.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Clean.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Clean, dude.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Clean.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: We can get there. I know we don't have like
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: all the time in the world.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Listen, you're just getting clean. I don't know how far
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: you went into working on yourself. Well, no, that's the thing, right?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So this is what I'm getting to. The greatest thing
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in the world that could have happened to me was
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: exactly what happened to me, and it was what it
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be. I got allowed to go down
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: to this meeting, and I was scared. I didn't want
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: to do what I did again. I was like deathly
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: afraid this.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Time of like not wanting to like, wind up where
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: i was again like the yets as an addict never
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: bothered me y'all eligible to like there's all the stuff
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: that we do like yet y-e-t are eligible to um
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: that never that never yeah i'm just trying to put
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: it down for people because some of the people that
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: don't know look and go oh my god that's so
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: cool like you know what i mean we look at
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: it we're like oh there's another one of those things
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: and you know you sound like right yeah we're not
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: gonna do that um But it was the agains that
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: always bothered me, right?
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So like I relapsed again.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I failed again. I screwed up again. I embarrassed myself
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: and my family again. Like that's the stuff that started
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: bothering me. Are you talking about work yesterday?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: There it is, dude.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: There it is. I'm crushing it at work right now actually.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: You are the guy.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So– I'm sorry.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: We're good.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: This is– But we've got fucking 17 more years than this.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: No.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. This is the meat and the potatoes.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: The beginning is the most important. That's not– you can't–
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: He sat there quietly for literally– And.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Now he's opened up, dude, and we're done. We're– No, no.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying your story.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Continue.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: He also knows your story. He can tell your story.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: He literally can and order breakfast or lunch or dinner
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: We're diving into Captain N.A. right now. He finds his meat.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: And then he's tried.
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: Go ahead.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, he's 100%. 100%, right. That's exactly.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: So you find a meeting.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: So listen, I was able to go to the meetings
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: close to my house. They were NA meetings twice a
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: week down the street at this same church on Ferry Street.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Monday and Thursday they would meet.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I used to go to the Thursday night. That's
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: where I met you.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: I can't, we can dude. So that was like my,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: that became my home group and what I was allowed
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: to do and wanted to do was I was the
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: only time I was like not watched by like my
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: family or my girls. So I would go, I would
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: leave my house as early as she would let me
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: leave me to go down to the meeting. So the
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: meeting started at eight. I lived literally up the hill,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: like at the bottom of the hill was like a
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: four minute walk down a little while longer walking up. But, uh,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: like you walked down the hill at the bottom of
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: the hill was, was very sweet. And the meeting was
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: literally right there. I would go down at like seven
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: 30 because I had freedom to do that. And so
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: by doing that and being there early, I started seeing
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: guys like chip and Joe and like a bunch of like,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? People who were there early,
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: who at that time had like two or three years clean,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: which was like an eternity to me. It was like
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: an unachievable task. And I was watching. They're there early.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: They're happy. They're drinking coffee. They're driving cars. They got
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: on like half decent, like newer clothes. Like everything about
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: them was attractive. Everything about them was like, that's what
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I want. And so I immediately, well, not immediately. I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: just kept showing up there early and then I'd stay
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: as late as I could at the end of the
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: night and then I'd go home and then Eventually they
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: started figuring out what my name was. I figured out
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: what their name was. We started actually communicating before the
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: meeting and then like I asked Chip to sponsor me
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: and he said no.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: He said no.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: It was– dude, the most– it's like asking a guy
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: to be your valentine.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Hold on. Hold on, man. We should say Chip was
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: a member of– in our recovery group. He passed on
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: our IP to Chip. But he helped a lot of people.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: A ton of people.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: But not Damon. That's not true.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: You know who Chip's first FODC was? You? Me. No way.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, way back in the day when he first.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Right when he's talking.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Right about that time.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: So.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: It was wild. I was like, got up the courage
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: to ask another guy to be my Valentine. Cause like that, like,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know what, what other people like,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: but us, like me, Maddie, probably you like similar. You don't,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: you don't, you don't get intimate with another male that
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: meant other things to us than what it means to
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: me today. You don't go share your feelings with somebody.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's just, that ain't it. You ain't asking someone.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Other guy for help.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: You'll figure it out. Or one of your boys will
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: see you aggravating, oh, what's up? And you'll work on
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: whatever the fuck it is together, right? And then the
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: first guy I ask to be over at Valentine's tells
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: me no.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Did he say why?
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He did.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Good question. He said, I got too many guys.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: So he said he literally said to me, it'd be
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: a disservice to you. I wouldn't be able to I
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to give you the attention you need
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: to do the work you need to do. But I
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I will introduce you to somebody next week. That's what
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: he said to me. And I went, fuck him in
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: my head. Fuck him. This is bullshit. This is what happens.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: This place sucks. It's all horseshit. I'm a few weeks
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: into being clean at this point. And I said to myself,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: I'm just going to go get high. And he'll feel
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: the pain of that. You know what I mean? And
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: then the moment of clarity hit and I went, my
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: head goes crazy. He's not going to know if you're
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: here next week.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: What the fuck are you talking about?
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Like wild. And so like I had a lot of
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: those things happen to me early on, like the moments
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: of clarity where like, you know, again, I ratted myself
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: out to my family and just different things like eye
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: opening things early on that I wouldn't normally see. Yeah.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: And so next week I showed back up at that
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: meeting and did exactly what he said and he introduced
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: me to my first sponsor. And it was a perfect
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: fit for me at the time. The guy was– it
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: was a guy who was doing service work. He was
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: into the– like right away the guy got me a
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: green and gold and a step writing guide. We went
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: right to work. He did a ton of service work
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: and he told me if you want to do this,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: this is what we got to do. He made me
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: start going with him to the area meeting on the
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: last Sunday of the month.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: And I used to go too.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I was– hold on. Hold on, Damon.
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: Matty.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I was the– what was I? At the area?
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: Chair.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: The chair.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I was the area chair.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Big deal, dude. That's the stuff I saw. Like I
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: was so into that, dude.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Is that where the hug line came from?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Not really, but the hug line did come along. He invented.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: I can't believe he's doing this.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Are you talking about the celebration hug line?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: It was the Ferry Street.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: It was original.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: David invented something.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: They had a hug line?
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: I don't remember that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I'll shut my mic off.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: I hate this kid so much. At one point, I
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: brought it to the group and said, hey, it's one
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: of the most– I was always known as a good hugger.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: People knew. So I was like, let's make it not
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: just one person giving out the key chain. Let's start–
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Like the person gives out the keychains and there's two
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: or three more people that will hug. So like when
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: they come up, they're getting like hugs from two to
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: four people. He's just looking at me.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it's great for guys like me.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: He couldn't. In recovery meetings, they give out keychains for
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: various lengths of clean time starting at white, which is
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the newcomer.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Zero to 29 days.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Zero to 29 days.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: And then it goes 30 days.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: 30, 60, 90, six months, nine months.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: They have a keychain person. that goes up and says, okay.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: A volunteer.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you have 30 days and then they come up,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: everyone claps, you give them a hug.
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: But then you created a hug line.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One hug wasn't enough.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Not only are they nervous, right, at 30 days clean
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: or even like two days clean to get a hug,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: now you have to hug all these men.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I like the idea. We had men and
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: women because women came up too. Like you didn't want
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: to just have four creepy guys standing up there waiting
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: to hug someone. newcomer you know what I.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Mean it'll be a whole line of creepy men.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Up there waiting we had to deny a couple of
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: people that volunteered for the position.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah so you ended up getting involved in service.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah service step work all of it and like you
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: know the long story short for that like is stop
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: dude is I got right into all the things and
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: you know there were my first sponsor taught me and
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: that's also like my first sponsor was sponsored by your.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Sponsor who was your first sponsor You can't.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't say his name. What's wrong with you?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I turn your mic off. Hold on.
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: God.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: All right. Just just say his first name. What's wrong
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: with Joe, dude?
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: Joe.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Joe.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Joe.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that is that Joe? Is that this Joe?
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, Justin, this is Joe. No?
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: No.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Different Joe.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: No, I couldn't be sponsored by that. That would not happen. No,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: that would not happen.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Men with women.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that wouldn't work.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Wait, so that means we were kind of in the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: same family. We were. Yeah, my sponsor. You were like
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: my sponsor's uncle.
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: Uncle.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a sponsor tree.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: My sponsor was sponsored by your sponsor.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: For the people listening, it really isn't this bad.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I promise.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Some of us just show up, got a guy, sponsors us,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: helps us through life.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: It's not this bad, I promise.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: This is because you are uncomfortable with the intimacy of
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: men with men. No, just some of it I think
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: is dumb. Well, because I would suggest that you look
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: internally for that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Like I want somebody going, that's my grand sponsor.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to want that. Some people do,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: just like some people wanted the hug line.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get into that heavy. I went to
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: a couple of things early on.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you guys just found out your cousins.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Wow. Whatever it is. I knew he forgot. I was
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: his uncle.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I've never forgotten.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: You were his uncle?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was his uncle.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: See how stupid this is, people? If you're talking about
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: family and how it goes, that's what.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It would be. Listen, Matty, you have to admit that
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: some people don't have families that get clean. They lose
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: their families. They don't have anybody in the recovery room.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't think of it that way. How thoughtless of me.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I apologize.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: And the intimate relationship. I'm now– I'm like– and again,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: for me, learning about that, right? Like intimacy between two
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: men doesn't mean a physical intimate relationship, although the physical
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: part can just be a hug and– You are right.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: That's what you teach your sponsees?
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: I can't believe this, kid.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: So anyways– Call me uncle.
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: Unc.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: That's how I'm going to call you. Unc.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Call me unc.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Unc. So, yeah, the guy talking.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: The name is Creepy. Uncle Creepy.
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: This place is wild, man.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Aren't you happy you came back?
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: I'm very happy. I actually, like, real quick, I wanted
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: to say this early on. I was thinking about, like,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: I think about this regularly. Like, we should have theme music.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: And it can change, like, maybe depending on your attitude.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: But, like, I just.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: I needed to bring that up. That's humble.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: What do you want? Do you want instrumental or something?
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. Because I'm not... No freestyle rap.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: You want something like that?
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: No? No.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's like hardcore.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: No, I had a couple in mind that I've been
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: playing on repeat on Spotify. What are they? Handsomer.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Who the fuck is that? Russ.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: It's Russ and Keith. Who's that?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: What's the next one?
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I Don't Get Tired. Kevin Gates.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Kevin Gates.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Wow, dude. Who are these two people?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: They're rappers.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: They're... You know what, dude? I'm just saying.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Are they in the sponsorship family?
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: No.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Russ is not my uncle. I don't have an uncle
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: named Russ. Stop right there. You know where you're at
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: in your story. I don't want to get.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Are you sure? Yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Russ, complete fucking asshole.
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: Really?
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Just so you know.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: One on my top list of people that I've met.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: A lot of people ask me, who's the coolest person
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: you met? Who's the worst? Russ is definitely one of
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the worst. Wow, dude.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: You don't get canceled for that, right? You're allowed to
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: say whatever you.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Want with that word. I can say whatever I want.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Ask Ashley down the hall.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Here's the truth.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Fuck Russ.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yo, right there.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I ain't going.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: To ask Ashley. Fuck Russ, baby. I'm done with his song.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Two quick stories. I'm sorry to interrupt.
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: No, no.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: It's perfect.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Kevin Gates and Russ.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Russ came to one of the concerts. We were backstage,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: and Ash was like, I'd like to get a picture
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: We're standing there. He's kind of off to the side.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: The label person goes over to him. We're right kind
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of close by. And she says to him, you know, hey,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: this is so-and-so from the radio station here. You know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: we want to take a picture. And he looks at
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: her and goes, I told you no fucking pictures. I'm
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: not taking any fucking pictures. I'm not.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Do I?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I told that screaming at her. So we're just standing
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: all awkward. And then she's like kind of whispering in
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: his ear. And he looks at us with this look
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: like we're disgusting. And then he walks over and he's like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: what's up? He just puts his arms up and take
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: a picture. I'm like, dude, you can't just take a
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: fucking picture. What's wrong with you? Kevin Gates. Funny story
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: about Kevin Gates. He came. Yeah. And there were all
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: these emails ahead of the show that it was Ramadan
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and that he was fasting and he could not touch women.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: He could not touch women at all. Or maybe even men, too.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: But I think especially the women he couldn't touch. So
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: there was no touching of Kevin.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: OK.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't touch anybody. So that was a strict thing.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: So he gets to the show where backstage he comes
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: walking backstage with the whole get up.
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: The Ramadan get up. And he walks in, just starts, like,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: fucking kissing girls, touching girls. Oh, my God. People are
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: giving him hugs. It was all this stuff. He didn't
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: give a shit. Good for him. All these emails for nothing.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: No touching Kevin Gates.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe some assumptions were made to be on the safer side.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Just like maybe rocks out a bad day.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Here's your instrumental. Is that good for you?
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, what is this shit?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's Kevin Gates.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: No?
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: No.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: No. It's not for you. That's Mikey V.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Mikey V. All right, Damon. All right. Speed this up here.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I know.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: So anyways, my sponsor taught me five questions to, you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: who's your sponsor? What's your home group? Yeah. What's your
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: service position? Do you have a higher power that you're
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: praying to? And what step are you on? And, and
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: those like when I, and I was able to answer
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: those questions regularly all the time, not so much anymore,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: but you know, I, I, I vary between it, but,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: but that was his version of teaching me of what
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: it meant to be in recovery. If I could answer
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: those five questions, like, then I could consider myself in recovery.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: And I literally latched on, and it's like Maddie said,
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: that was my prime time. And this is crazy, because
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: for the next two and a half years, and it
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: kind of aligns, I was knee deep. I'll use another verb,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: but I won't. Um, I was deep in, into NA
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: and everything, right? Like, like, uh, every event, all this stuff. And, and, um,
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: you know, I'll circle back to, uh, the girlfriend that
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: I still live with up the street and a lot
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: of good things that happened in my life. Like I, again,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: all like God shots, I can't get into all of
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: them now because it'll take us two hours to do it.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: But like, um, you know, I had just different things
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: going on, like, I was volunteering at a church with
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: her on Sundays, only because I couldn't be left alone,
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I wasn't some great guy or anything in the beginning,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: and I met another guy there who wound up helping
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: me get, like, he knew I was getting ready to
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: go back to work, so, like, He helped me fix
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: my resume and then took me to Macy's and bought
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: me like a suit, shoes. Like he spent like two,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: $ 300 like, you know, 17 years ago. What would you sponsor,
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Puff Daddy?
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: No.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Did it?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not going to lie to you.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: The day that we were at the church together and
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: he lived in, like, Weymouth, he's like, oh, come with me.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: And I looked at my girl and I was like, yo,
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: what's going on? Again, still a major level of uncomfortability
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: with intimacy, right?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Was he in the sponsor family?
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Hey, cousin! I like David's story. Listen, he's a great guy.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: He's a fantastic guy. And what I didn't know at
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: the time, he was in the middle of losing his job.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: And he was like, I'm going to give you– like
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: we did the resume and then he's like, hey, we
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: drove right to the mall near there, whatever, whatever, the
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: Braintree Mall or something. And we go in and I
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: was like, what's going on? I'm like, this guy is
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: getting like awkward. And he's like, listen, I'm going to
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: give you a long-term no-interest loan. You pay me back
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: whenever you can. But I know you're going to get–
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: you're trying to go to interviews and get a job.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I want to get you– That's solid.
• 50:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Fit it for a suit, like brand new shoes. Stop, dude.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: The guy was solid. And then.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know what they say.
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I can't stand any of you people right now. It's Matty.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: It's really him. What is that? Oh, big pun. Okay,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: all right. Now that's theme music. That's good. Okay, all right.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Not this song. Gate, kid. Anyways, I, it also happened
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: to like, I, I wasn't, you know, again, I was
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: doing a ton of work on myself and in my,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: my NA life, but I was not really doing, I
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: wasn't showing it at home at all. And, um, at
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: about two and a half years clean, um, and, and
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: mind you, like I was with this girl, um, for
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: longer than the two and a half years of me
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: being clean. She had been through a few relapses with me, like, and, and,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: You know, she had taken some trip to Italy or
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: something with her girlfriends and, like, came back, like, renewed
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: or whatever you want.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: To call it.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Or just aware, you could say. And she was like,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: you know, listen, I don't think we should be together anymore.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I can't look at him. He's the worst. I can't
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: look at him.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: He's the best and the worst all wrapped up in
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: one package.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to his story.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: He knows Nancy Bear really well.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: This is going to be tough.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: He got dumped.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I got dumped and still live there. Couldn't see the
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: fucking dog. Her name was Nancy? Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: The Bear.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Nancy.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: That's what we call her. Nancy Bear.
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Okay. So are we going to get to the power, power,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: power of recovery?
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: What are we? What's he fucking seven now? Anyways, I'm
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: just sharing stuff for people. Even though I was locked in,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: in NA and I was like, you know, doing really
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: well in areas of my life and recovery. I hadn't
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: applied that to all areas of my life. And that's
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: something different that I do today. And I'm able to
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: like share with people. So, you know, she, she told
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: me to beat it, the short version. And, and, I eventually,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: like within about, you know, a couple years after that,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I wound up at one of Matty's sober houses at
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: You stayed there?
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: You were a client.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Client and a manager, yeah. I'm not only the president.
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: No, no.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I'm also a client. He's like Cy Sperling.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Please tell them exactly how you described me in your
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: history of management.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Damon is best.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Barring none, the worst house manager I've ever had.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say best. The worst.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: He's always described me as the worst.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, you manage the company, which is a
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: huge company.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: I couldn't follow him. The only rule I think I
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: followed properly in that house regularly was I didn't get high. Wow.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: So what made you want to work with him?
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Who else is going to work with me?
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: But, dude, like, listen, man, like, I spent a lot
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: of years doing a lot of work and, you know,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: working on the steps and doing that kind of stuff.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: And it led us.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: It kept connecting me and him in different ways. And
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: he talked about in his story, his brother. you know,
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: started doing that, the Wednesday night meal at his house. And,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: you know, we really kind of became more and more
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: connected that way. When I first started showing up there,
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: I was working, selling GPS tracking equipment, showing up in
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: a suit and tie, like, you know, every Wednesday night
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: at the end of a work.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And I pitched him this job.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, imagine.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I got too busy. I can't handle it. I have
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: no money.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I can't pay you. You come to work with me.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he went, okay. That's a crazy part of
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: the story.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude.
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: It's nuts.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Now, was there something like with Matty that besides him
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: being your friend that you saw that said like, I
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: want to do this. I want to work for him
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: with no money. Let's not get crazy.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man. Yeah, we were all like– we
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: were doing it, man.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: It was like– You were just helping him.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: We were such a– we were so connected, everything in
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: that area and NA at that time. You know, like
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: it was like a– It feels like it was a
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: different time for us.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: That was a setup there, by the way, that I
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: was trying to get him to praise you and to
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: compliment you.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. I'm getting there. All the stuff that
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: we were doing together from his brother's house and hitting
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: meetings together. Dude, at that time, by the time we
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: started connecting for the house stuff and that was going on.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I had already left the other job and I was
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: doing junk removal, right? And so I was kind of
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: like doing my thing there and– I.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Remember you doing junk removal actually.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and dude, sometimes him and I would both be
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: showing up to that Ferry Street meeting in work booths
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: and stuff. He'd be finishing his plumbing job. I'd be
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: finishing junk removal, have a truck full of trash outside,
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: and then he'd get a call for plumbing afterwards and
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: he'd be like, yo, come with me. I just need
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: another set of hands.
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: You know, we'd be going out and doing stuff like that.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: So like, so yeah, dude, like the stuff that we're doing.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: And then, and then when they, when the idea of
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: the house came around, like there was a handful of us,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, eight or 10 of us at
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: the most, but there was like regularly going and like
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: doing work on that house. Like you really, we all
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: really felt a part of like, we were connected. We
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: all came from Chelsea. Like, you know what I mean?
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: There was a lot of like deep connections here that
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: then were multiplied by the fact that we were all in,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: in early recovery together and like doing all these things.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: So yeah, like, Did I think he was going to
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: be a successful entrepreneur? Absolutely fucking not. I'm not sure
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: anybody did. I'm not even sure how his brother slid
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: the keys in the checkbook over to him and.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Neither does he.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: But nonetheless, like it worked. Like we talk about it
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: all the time. Like where we've gotten to today, we
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: did basically on grit and ambition, right? And we're like
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: stopping now to like kind of look at everything and
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: figure out like, okay, we want to continue to grow.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Like we need to like become a little bit more
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: professional with some of the stuff that we're doing. You
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: I was hoping it would be like the Sean Parker story.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Do you know this story about Facebook? So when Mark
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Zuckerberg started Facebook, he teamed up with Sean Parker who
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: was like this millionaire guy or whatever. So they moved
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the offices from Harvard to California and they rented this space.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: And Sean Parker wanted a mural on the wall. So
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: there was this big LA artist, this street artist that
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: he really liked. And so he hired him to come
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: and he said to the artist, I can pay you $ 10, 000,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: which was a lot of money to this artist. He
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: didn't have any money. Or I can give you stock
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: in this new company called the Facebook.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: So the guy said typically he would have taken the money,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: but there was something about Sean Parker. There was something
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: about him that told him to take the stock. So
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: that was way back in 2004. Facebook went public in 2012.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: and he cashed out that stock for $ 300 million.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: So I was hoping, kind of thinking, like, maybe when
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I set you up, you'd say, you know, you saw
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: something in Matty, some kind that was going to be
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: some success.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: I want to be clear with everybody. There's no $ 300
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: million that I'm cashing out with Matty right now.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Never know.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Matty wants to cash $ 300 million.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: He can't either.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, but truth be told. I couldn't have envisioned
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: where we'd be today and how wildly successful we are
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: in our personal and professional lives.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: It's really amazing.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: It really is. All jokes aside.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Him and I talk about it all the time. Like
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: we literally don't, we don't, neither one of us sit,
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: we may like look funny or like act like we're,
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: you know, we're super cool or whatever, but like we
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: both are like, humbled by the idea that we've been
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: able to put this thing together the way it is. Like,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: it's insane. So we really stop and, like, actually talk
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: about it or think about it because it's uncomfortable to us.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you guys are humble guys.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Especially coming from where we came from.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, you are not Damon?
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Stop bragging.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: So.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, anyway, so the story's a story, right?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: From there, like, you know, a few years in, the
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: houses came up, and... And literally, like you said, can
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: you can you come work for me and I can't
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: pay you and it cost me money. So like to
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: me at that time, the connection that I had with
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: the program and with the people was far more valuable
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: than than any amount of money that we could have
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: figured out. You know what I mean? At some point
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: he started paying me a few dollars. Now he gets
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: paid and cost me money. Yeah. I mean, you know,
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: it's you know, I mean, it's like cashing in on
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: the stock in a different way. You know what I mean?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I just thought that we did that segment one time
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: on the show on the morning show and we were like,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: who has a cash counting machine? He was mad. Look,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: he's still shaking his head.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: He's still shaking his head. He's like, I can't believe like, dude,
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: we count cash, man.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It's not like, you know, people pay for their rent
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: at sober houses.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: It's like literally it goes in the bank, but he gets,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: you know, everything from like, we're going to get robbed to,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: you know, like people shouldn't know that. Like, you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: he was upset with me when I, when I, he's
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: got to count the cash somehow.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: I would do it by hand. Guess who paid for
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: the car? The counter. Oh, Not the company. Not the company.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Look at him, still miserable.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? He's actually been being very good
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the last couple of minutes.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Letting you finish.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Trying to let him finish.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's good.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Are you done, Damon?
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're happily ever after, man.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Look at where we are now. You know what I mean?
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: And I still. On Kiss 108.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: He banged out a couple of kids.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: He goes to work every day.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Literally.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: And him and I still go to meetings regularly. So
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: just to be clear so people can understand like how
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: busy we are and all that other nonsense that gets
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: attached to us and what the excuses that people say
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: to us about why they can't take time to dedicate
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: to their recovery, we're still regularly at two to four
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: meetings a week.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Every day we wake up, we have over 620 people
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: in our care, not including employees.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: So 620 just clients. Yep.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: And we got 50, 60 people we got to look
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: after that work with us.
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I have two kids I'm trying to manage.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: That's hard.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: We each got kids.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: He didn't even count that. We have wives.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: And we still can go to meetings. So what's your excuse?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: That's why I said that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at my friend that relapsed after 20 years.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: He stopped coming. That's what happened.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: And he forgot. And he did not have a defense
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: when that moment came. That's what happened to him.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Every relapse starts with, I stopped going to meetings.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Every one.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: All the time. All the time. All right. Well, I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: like that. Thank you, Damon.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: My pleasure. Thanks for, you know, giving the platform back. Yeah, no,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: we're at an hour, dude. I think we're good. No,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: next time we got to get Michelle in here, dude.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say that. Would you be
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: willing to bring her in? Michelle is Maddie's wife.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: So he's definitely willing to bring her in. Absolutely.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I know. It's her. You know what I mean?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: The level of comfort she'll have is the fact that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: it's just us in a room talking and it doesn't
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: feel like you're talking to.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: The– So your wife Michelle is my last halfway house
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: that I was in. She was there. She had been
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: there for a few months when I got there and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: she kind of ran shit there. Probably how she runs
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: your house.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: The same way. And so I haven't seen her in–
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Probably since then. I haven't seen her. And I never
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: knew what happened to her after that. And then years
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: went by and my friend Bobby, I was mentioning earlier, said, hey,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: remember Michelle from that house? I said, yeah. He said,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: she's married to Maddie Powers.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: And she's a bodybuilder. I go, no way. And he
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: showed me the picture. I go, oh, my God, because
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: she's ripped.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: She's absolutely ripped.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: She's definitely ripped.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: So if she's willing to come in, I would love
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: to have her.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: I wish I was a fly on the wall for
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: that conversation with you and Bobby. Hey, remember Michelle. Do
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: No, it was respectful. Trust me. I'm sure.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Because he's here.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. We can talk later. I just want
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to see how much different Maddie acts when she's here.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: No, dude. I don't change.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: It's insane. It's literally.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: One thing you get with me, I'm always me. No
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: matter who I'm with.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Whether I'm talking to a CEO or a homeless guy,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I'm the same person.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Did she agree to it? Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: He's kind of lying. The only two times it changes
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: is when there's little kids or older people.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: And he becomes, you'll see the difference.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: It's wild. He becomes like a goofball with the little
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: kids and he's like, you know, Captain Polite.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Ready?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Her favorite person in the whole world is Jason Aldean.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So I sent her the picture of Jason Aldean in
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: the hallway.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: She wrote, the man, please say hi to Justin for me.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: I said, Justin said, next visit.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: You heard me say this.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Justin said, next visit.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Tell him no jingle ball tickets this year.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: I don't want to take the girls. I'm partly kidding.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, stop fucking begging me.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Oh. Because I asked her.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: To come in. So she's busting my balls. Stop fucking begging.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right. So is that a yes?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: If you want to have somebody put me down, bring
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: her and him into the office and they team up.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: So anytime Michelle comes in, I'm living high life. Anytime
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Katie comes in, the two of them are fucking torturing me.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: So we can count on November, hopefully. Well, you guys
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: will be back in November anyway.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we will.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, thank you again. You'll come back in
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: a month. We appreciate that.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: Talkbacks, baby.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Let us know. Yeah, talkbacks at the iHeart app. Any questions, comments,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: any reaction that you have. And of course, in all seriousness,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: anything you have to ask about recovery. If you need help,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: if they need help, Damon, not you, Matty, or you too,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: but where do they go?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: They go to powerofrecovery.org, or they can call us at 857-567-6937. Also,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: just I want to make another note, if there's any
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: more people who think my voice is sexy, don't hesitate. Hey, cousin!
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: That's my cousin right there. Oh, no, my nephew.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: My nephew!
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks, guys.