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Resident Evil Gets It Right · High n' Dry Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: But I say that Macklemore's music is meh, and that that's when people that's when people are listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: They latch on to this little moment in time, and then my their personalities just have to converge on it.
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• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, hey everybody, we're on the dry podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
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  SPEAKER_00: With me as always, James Crosslin.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: We are, of course, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of life with Louie.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was a cartoon version of Louis's life.
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  SPEAKER_01: I recall it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, where Louie Anderson.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Topical, topical reference, Louis Anderson.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I guess he was in that show Baskets with Zach Galifanakis pretty recently.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: I bet people know him from Baskets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really?
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  SPEAKER_00: Was he?
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought he just did game showing and then surreal show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, no, he was in Baskets, and he's uh it's it's a really surreal show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: Weird.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's in like the it's like in like the Tim and Eric vein of humor.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: I could see Louie getting into that.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was an interesting thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, um, so we are not actually gonna be talking about life with Louie that much this episode.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what we're actually gonna be discussing is we there's it clearly parallels this movie, but we'll try to hold we'll try to hold off.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be talking about the new film Resident Evil, the Zack Krieger outing, which has been uh doing really good online this morning.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was seeing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited to tear into this one.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: I was uh tear into it.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I was especially uh I was impressed that Zach Krieger shot this whole thing while holding a gallon of PCP.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: It was uh very impressive.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: A gallon! Wow.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now they got my girlfriend.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: They had to come back with the money or they'd kill her.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: We were gonna talk about Resident Evil three hours ago.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: Three three hours ago.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: I was watching White's kids, you know, actually uh a few days before, uh, just to kind of get into the Resident Evil mood.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: That crew is pretty great.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I like him a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: I like him a lot, and I'm happy that he uh he's doing his thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um well, we're gonna look at Resident Evil.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do in a three-part method, guaranteed to get you results.
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  SPEAKER_00: First, we're gonna rate this thing out of five.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: Then we're gonna dive into the golden path and investigate the deeper meanings behind it.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: And then finally, we're gonna insert ourselves drugs or alcohol into the thing.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: But um uh what makes it so special, fun, is that we are going to be doing a drunk and/or ha.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: So uh James, what are you uh what are you doing?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: Coffee.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: Coffee with ube liqueur has been what I've been drinking, and it's really nice.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's been pretty great.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's gets the you get the caffeine, you get just a little bit of buzz from the alcohol, it doesn't mess with my medication or anything.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's just nice, it's really smooth.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the ube liqueur, I can't remember.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's just ube liqueur.com you can go to or something like that, or it's ube flavor liqueur or something.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Just if you just look up Ube Liqueur, it's the probably the only one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it's really good.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I recommend it.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really tasty.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have to check it out.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I'm also gonna go with uh, you know, something real smooth, just give me a little bit of buzz.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be doing shots of wild turkey 101.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, get me where I need to be.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I just saw this movie last night, and so like last night I had a few drinks, and now I woke up a few hours ago.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: Gonna have a few more now, so that's good.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's ubecreamliqueur.co.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, all right.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so let's line them up.
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  SPEAKER_00: This first toast, first shot.
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  SPEAKER_00: This one is going out to our newest listeners.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: These ones are coming to us from New Malden of Kingston upon the Thames.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh, someone was listening to our uprising.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're from one of the peasant villages that Richard II ransacked.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: The peasants are getting involved.
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  SPEAKER_00: Very nice.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh oh, then London's yeah, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fame.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then uh London tuned in, as well as the province of Milan.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then uh soul came in, so hey, there you go.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: So here's the music.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and again, I'm washing it down with the uh with the ghost lemonade here.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: So caffeine, caffeine and booze.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's me too.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm doing too.
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  SPEAKER_00: It'll get you right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It'll get you right.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: So where are you?
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think so too.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's what I believe.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, second toast, second hit.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: This one.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, for for me, uh, just because I've been uh, you know, because I was getting ready for a Zach Krieger.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: I was watching Whitest Kids, you know.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um here's one to Trevor Moore.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm sure Zach really loves that every time someone talks about him, they're like, also R.I.P.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: Trevor Moore.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Rasm P Trevor Moore.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: But I think he's in the same boat.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think he feels the same way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was watching a thing where he uh credited uh getting into all these movies and doing what he's been doing with uh the loss of Trevor Moore.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well good.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: Trevor Moore's death gave us barbarian and weapons.
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  SPEAKER_01: Pretty dope.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: And now Resident Evil.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Which, yeah, like I know we haven't rated it yet, but I think it's the best Resident Evil movie I've ever seen.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll get to it.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh The Bar is uh, you know, no disrespect to Milajovovich, but uh you know, I I've seen Fast and Furious movies that were uh you know fucking works of art compared to some of those Resident Evil.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the series definitely it definitely ruined its reputation over time, if anything.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I I understand the desire for a uh a constant paycheck like that.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh even Samuel Jackson was talking about how uh it was it was really uh fucking who's he playing Marvel?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Nick Fury.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's like Nick Fury was it really gives you that security.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: The fast and the Nick Furious.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: And finally, uh our final toast here goes to the movie, Resident Evil.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Sam Jackson was pretty disappointed that he couldn't show up in all of the uh Deep Blue Sea uh sequels.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: He was hoping for that steady paycheck.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: Killed him after that.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, I get it.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: I get it.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um he actually thought his Jurassic Park character was going to survive, um, but the uh the directors wanted genuine surprise uh when he got it on scene.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they want a genuine surprise, so they uh uh pulled out his real contract, which he had signed on a bar napkin the night before and killed the character.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: A little bit of Hollywood uh trivia for you.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, hold on to your butts because we're about to get into it.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: God, I love Sam Jackson, that movie.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on to your butts.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so for those of you who haven't seen it yet, Resident Evil.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: It um it's the story of a young man, Brian, who uh seems to be he's a courier for hospital um for organs and things of that nature.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: And on one particular night, after he's a raging douchebag to his woman who uh confesses her pregnancy, he That's an interesting take.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'd I you I I dispute that a little bit, but we'll get to it later.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you don't think he was a raging douchebag?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think so.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, well we'll get to it.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: He copped out.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: He copped out.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: But we'll yeah, we'll we'll talk about it.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: We've got to keep the editorializing to a minimum during the summary because we'll get to this.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he gets pregnancy news, he's kind of afraid for how things are gonna change, so he kind of shirks the discussion, says it's her choice, and takes on another currying job off to Resident Evil.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not Resident Evil to Raccoon City.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to Resident Evil.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he's off to Raccoon City to deliver something in a cooler.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Along the way, he smashes into a woman who runs onto this snowy, deserted road.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, unbeknownst to him, but benounced to us.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: She's obviously infected, uh, especially if you are played the Resident Evils, you know what's happening.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: He uh takes her into his car, they are found by a cop, and then from there, it's scene to scene where he meets a new Resident Evil-esque challenge, and um it really turns into just survival horror.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we go from farmhouse, farmhouse to to tunnel to city streets to hospital tower is is the progression.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Or I guess to sewer.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, city streets to sewer to hospital to hospital tower.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so interesting, interesting progression there.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: All the while being uh haunted by his nemesis.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the yeah, I love the line where he's like, I'm sorry I hit you with my car.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was really funny.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh a lot of comedy in this movie, yeah.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: But it was tasteful.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was tasteful.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we essentially watch him um try and deliver this thing.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um he does he gets bit early on, which is a staple of the games, and he has to find a way to cure himself, and he makes his way all the way to the end.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we we essentially watch this this journey of his.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: And uh well, what did what did you think?
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what did I think of this movie?
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'll go through our list.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: So acting.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: So there was there were minimal speaking characters in this movie.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Most of this movie uh was held up by Brian, who is uh who is played by Austin Abrams.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and so he has the he has the majority of lines in this movie, and I think he did a really good job.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: We can talk more about like um about like his character later, but he did like a really good job being a everyman, like an everyman in the way that he is like not super thoughtful and not he doesn't he doesn't think through he doesn't consider the the um the ramifications of his actions before he does them and he's like he takes he he takes a lot of special time to like pump himself up and be like fuck you yeah I win he does that like several times where he like takes time to pump himself up and he's like not particularly good at anything which is which is really he did a really good job playing that character.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: I love that he I love when he keeps calling them monsters and like I uh like I started this I started this podcast.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I love when stupid fucking monsters.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: This is really fucking funny.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: He's like trying to figure out like how to explain the situation stupid fucking monsters.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I th I think a lot of the uh the dialogue from him I heard was supposed to be a person playing a Resident Evil horror game.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're playing it, it's a monsters.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not good at the guns.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I'm not a gun guy.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought that was I thought that was good.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I liked that a lot.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was he did a really good job.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: He plays he plays such he plays like a doofus almost, but it's not like slapstick doofus.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the it's like it's like what if what if the second dumbest person you know got stuck in a survival situation?
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:45
  unknown: Yeah.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Not the dumbest person you know, second dumbest.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, he's backed up by uh the scenes with Paul Walter Hauser, who you know was recently in the naked gun remake.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: When he gets shot.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I love that the look on both of their faces of like they they communicate, and that was fantastic acting there.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: In this horrific situation where Paul just took several shots to the lower half.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: The the they could they communicated an entire conversation in the two looks they gave each other as he did that.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was really good.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like that the acting in this was really good, and at the end we got that.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we in that was in the car with Cali Reyes, who has been in a few other movies and TV shows that I liked, like True Detective.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know, she was in uh she was in one of those seasons that she was really good in.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see what else.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's the one that I liked her in the most, uh, that I remember her from.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but she was good in this one as a badass, and we got Zach Cherry, who is in Severance.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, he's the bearded guy scientist who he talks to right at the beginning of the lab tech.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the lab scientist.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: All all pretty good acting.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm gonna give it I'm gonna give it a four because it's it's not like it was revolutionary, but it was really good.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was really serviceable acting above above the norm, truly.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Stupid fucking monsters.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the the well, the everyday that you're saying.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: I I saw someone they posted that he could become the Gen Z Ash from Evil Dead.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, well, first, no, no, he couldn't.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: And second, he's a young millennial, so just just wrong on all regards.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then he died.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Ash doesn't die.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think he could be like a uh almost like a Michael Sarah, almost like lose lovable loser in in lots of stuff, or a Joan Hill or something.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: He was the uh he was the homeless man in weapons.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, he was.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: He was and he was so funny in that role when he came on.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was just like immediately like that guy is hilarious.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, and he's getting he's getting swallowed by a whale next.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be a wild fucking trip.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Almost like James Franco, I guess.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: I would say like a like a like what James Franco used to be.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully not for the text, but like uh like a James Franco in like uh Pineapple Express kind of.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I could see that.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Back when we liked James Franco, yeah.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the cinematography in this movie uh was good.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I feel like the cena the the camera did a lot of we got a lot of first person shots, which I thought was really enjoyable.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, of him like leaning around edges or like looking with his camera through the snow and following the snow track.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the camera did a lot to build suspense correctly.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it did a really good job of building suspense correctly.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't, it didn't, it wasn't, it didn't feel cheap.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: There were a couple there were a couple jump scares I felt were cheap, like the first one jumping out of the closet uh when he first goes in the farmhouse.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: I felt like that was like standard horror, uh cheap scare.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: But but then after like even before that and after that, like the the tension building is so good.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: The way that it makes everything feel empty when he is uh at the beginning, it feels so empty and he feels so alone, and then danger.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he can see danger coming sometimes, and other times the danger's obscured from him.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: And the camera does a great job of making you feel both of those instances.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: The panic that comes with knowing that danger's there, and the surprise that comes with danger, you know, uh not you not knowing in there and then immediately happening.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think what he what the most impressive thing he did there was simulate a horror video game, and he used instead of doing a horror movie, he used the beats of a horror video game.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and like in each each one, it definitely mimicked when you make it to the next room of a horror game.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's got his nemesis that's following him, the challenge is presented, the new creatures there, you determine your resources, and then you attempt to fix the challenge, which he did in each sort of level.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I think following that second dumbest person, yeah.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and I think following that, uh, it definitely made this really cool.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, he had like a mini boss at each each um, and it was like something that he had to overcome.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I I kind of have a note on that for Golden Path about like uh character arc for him and stuff, and and and like the the meaning behind it.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but yeah, overall I think the cinematography is is really good in this.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Zach Krieger Krager knows how to make he knows how to make a movie, he knows how to block a shot, he knows how to create a tracking shot.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: He did some really cool things like following the feet.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like we had a couple shots of like following feet into an area instead of like a fully blocked like upper half shot, and it like really it really it you got like the echoing footsteps and stuff, like the sound mixing was so good for this.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he went to the uh Quentin Tarantino school for directing.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Did he?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it showed it showed, yeah.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he loves feet.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: But uh the CGI was good.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: There were some times where I was like it was a little bit uh blurry or a little bit, I felt just a little too what's the word I'm looking for, elastic sometimes with the uh with the CGI, just a little too elastic.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: I could see that.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like in the uh I didn't care for the way the elevator shaft looked, and I didn't much care for the way the nursery looked.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I when it turned into a green, like because that's the one I knew that the room was a giant green screen.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: But like when he was outside, um even even the in the um Yeah, just whenever I I could tell when they went from a more holistic setting to green screen.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, same, same.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh for that I have to knock it a little bit, but I'm gonna give but you know, the knock is for the CG is for parts of the CGI and nothing for the uh camera, you know, what the camera's doing.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm gonna give it a 4.5 just because like the the hor like for a horror movie, this cinematography goes way beyond what audiences require for a horror movie if you just look at the fucking conjuring or insidious or whatever nowadays, where or the nun, where they just fucking pump out, like they don't it doesn't matter to those audiences, but for this, a lot of effort was put into it and it was really good.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: For score, I thought that the like I said before, the sound mixing was really, really good.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: I noticed the sound mixing.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I think that comes along with when we're talking about horror.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's a big part of I think that counts where we talk about footstep, foot foot.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: And crunching snow and stuff like that.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh and also like rising piercing uh tones, which are standard for putting them in the right place is really important.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: And uh like the uh I really loved the phone call in the background, you know.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is emergency.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: You see, I'm calling back because you said this is an emergency, and he's just trying to like kind of like get a hold of a situation and survive and stuff, and that kind of thing really played well.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you've ever been in a relationship where you've had a tense argument with someone and they're trying and they're trying to call you back, and you're and you're like and you're like fuck, I can't take a call right now, and it's like it feels so tense.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I think that I think this the score on this gets a four uh is really good.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna be humming in, I'm not gonna be humming the Resident Evil theme uh or anything, but uh but the sound the sound mixing was really good.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: For plot, uh like you said, it's kind of like a video game, but it's in it's like a video game, not in the way that like Uve Bull, if you remember, Uve Bull did video game movies.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's why he is why video game movies have only recently been able to start meaning anything.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, he really he really destroyed the the genre for a while.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: But his own did not help.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: All right, I love her, I love her, but she did not help.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: I I personally think that the first Resident Evil movie was really good.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: I thought it captured a lot of what Resident Evil meant, and it was really focused on like that that one was like a faithful representation of like the enemies that you encounter in a Resident Evil and the and essentially the main plot of a Resident the Resident Evils, like the early ones.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought that that one was really good, and then they kind of fell off from there, uh, progressively worse as time went on.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the first one was really good.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I I've rewatched the first one like dozens of times.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh this one, I feel like, like you said, video game style plot, uh, but in a way that Zach Kreger always does this thing where we're escalating, we're we're we're s it starts out slow, and then we start to ramp, and then we start to ramp, and then we start to ramp, and then we like explode into the stratosphere.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: And he he he does this, he did it in Barbarian, he did, he did it in weapons, and he does it here, and he just has an excellent he does an excellent job of dragging you along with the plot to not make you feel tired of it or bored or he he he keeps the thread going, he keeps you invested in the with with his plot turns.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I think part of that in in this movie is he tied he had the through line of Brian being scared, not scared of having a kid, you know, scared of the change of like what is life what is life change would mean.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: And he dragged that along from scene to scene.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: He had a comment in every scene about his state of mind when it came to like to what was going on in his life, which like kept us interested.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't just he goes here and does this, it's he goes here, experiences something.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: How does it reflect yeah, reflects on it?
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that that's a big thing that uh recent because uh our educ uh we we are replacing education, uh especially in the humanities, with just nepotism.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: And something I've seen that is missing more and more and more is the requirement of the action, the reflection.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: The action, the reflection.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: More and more we skip the reflection for some Snyder-esque bullshit.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: That was really the problem with Rebel Moon, wasn't it?
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Is that there was no reflection, like there was no character progress, it was just thing to thing to thing to thing.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, and it's it's wild that um our our last remaining like uh humanitarians and thespians and things of that nature are uh Zach Kregger from Whitest Kids You Know and then the South Park guys, and it's like what the fuck?
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, how is the ones who understand story structure that the Empire Yeah, we are in the end of Rome.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, it's not it's not the best story in the world, but it's a good story, it's a it's a good, competent story, and it it has because of that through line and those reflections, it makes it, it elevates it.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what people talk about when they say elevated horror.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, is that they they talk about through lines that that are storytelling beyond the horror aspect, and I was elevated the whole time.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: You those tentacles do it for you, huh?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm gonna go ahead and give it a four uh in the plot area, because yeah, it did a really good job.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: It did a really good job.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: It kept me really in entertained.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see I didn't see any problems with it.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I didn't the story didn't blow my mind, uh, but I didn't see any problems with it either.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: And for rewatchability, I can't wait to rewatch this movie.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm totally gonna rewatch this movie as soon as it comes out, I'm gonna rewatch the share.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'll probably re-like I said I've rewatched the first Resident Evil dozens of times and really enjoyed it.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I can't wait to to to watch him whenever he's calls them monsters.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I like he's when he's choking the the fat one that that that blows that that spits up ass.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's when he's a stupid fucking monsters.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's just so it's so fucking funny to me.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Just his frustration, uh, and not knowing he doesn't have any better words to describe.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can't wait to see it again.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm actually gonna give it a 4.5.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's like I think this is like a uh classic horror movie now.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like it.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, no, no, very nice.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Respectful.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: 4.2 is my average, rounds down to 4.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um let's see, for me.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: So acting, I I thought uh everyone definitely brought it.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um like even roles that were, you know, we we only met so many other characters.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the other characters he met, like I feel like some people could say that like the acting was a little weird, but it's like, no, it's coming from a lens where you're stepping out, like every time he talks to them, he's stepping outside of his horrific survival situation for a moment, and they're gonna feel off beat with you.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's going to be a little weird, and especially when this guy is explaining to you fucking uh umbrella, you're gonna be like, huh?
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that hit.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: And but like I said, when he shot him as he's being pulled away by the tentacles, and they look at each other right then, like the acting there that was conveyed in just eye glances was fantastic.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: And and the whole time Brian um was doing incredibly well, and even when they brought it down when he's like crying against the car and he leaves that message.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: First, I love that message because it's literally, you know, for those of you who've played Resident Evil and you're Leon, and everyone's like, Where's Leon?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Where's Leon?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: And when he left that message, the message he leaves is a message that you, as Leon, walk up, you hear it, and go, nah, that sucks, dude, and go save the day.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: You hear an NPC's, oh, he had a lot going on in his life, and then it was cut off by Resident Evil.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that that was all really, really well acted.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, he's the he's the second dumbest guy you know, which are most people, and they're NPCs.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: And he was an NPC, and we saw the story of an NPC in a grander tale.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we had a zoom in, and he left a message that the main character will find, go, like, uh, that's flavorful to this setting, and then move on.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: So that was it.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's learning about the whatever whatever mini bosses he's facing, there's a boss he's running into the boss.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's learning about the boss's background.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: And that's well, spoilers, you know, Brian becomes a boss in a future game.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Also, uh acting, um, yeah, I thought it was it was it was spectacularly done.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: You're being generous, right?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm gonna give it a 4.5.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give it a 4.5.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, choreography.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Some of these dance numbers were immensely entertaining.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: I always do that, don't I?
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh for people, for people listening, I'm I write out like our categories and I always write choreography instead of cinematography.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to do a musical, god damn it.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: The choreography in this was, you know, incredible.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: Please let me watch a musical.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: When he starts dancing, um but uh cinematography here, like you said, was incredibly well done.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: Just some of the only parts where I didn't care for it too much was the the jolt from a real setting to a green screen.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: And but which at the same time, like I think is cool.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: I I think we might be at a point here where we start ditching the green screens.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um because now in with the way our cameras are, the way we see things, they're the green screens are becoming the fucking crutch of your of your work.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so maybe we're at a point where we're we're starting to go back, where we're starting to back away from that.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I think just in time, especially with all this AI shit and slop that I'm being subjected to.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so the only times I was take uh that I was like meh about the cinematography was the green screens.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: And but other but even in those, um, where he decided to put the camera, when it followed Brian, when it was showing what Brian saw, expertly done.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely expertly done.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and so I will give the choreography a four.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: Score, I loved.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I loved the score.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't miss it.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: And what was cool is I especially appreciated was how it uh it borrowed from the thing.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the doom, doom, doom.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: It uh because I mean Resident Evil obviously borrows heavily from 1982's The Thing.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: The the fucking dog monsters of Resident Evil are a straight ripoff of the Huskies in the Thing when the tentacles come and like it's straight out of the thing.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: The body horror of Resident Evil is a carbon copy of the thing.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that that's even stated in if you ever play uh Resident Evil Revelations, you find recordings of an Antarctic facility that was attacked.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: And they yeah, and they they straight up call it out.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: That that body horror straight out of the thing, and I I loved hearing a thing-esque score because the thing-esque, like the thing, if we did 82, the thing, I'd give the score easily a 4.5.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, um seeing it uh sort of utilized here, the heartbeat soundtrack, where the soundtrack is is literally following Brian's heartbeat.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, loved it.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then at the same time, that it's an homage to you know one of my favorite horror movies.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I loved it.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: Score I'm gonna give a uh the only thing that keeps it from a five is that you know, obviously, you know, I I can't whistle the Resident Evil tune, you know.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like you could do The Godfather, you could do Jurassic Park without the key to like you like all those things.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I give it a 4.5.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: Nice plot.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is a simple plot, but that's okay.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a plot does not have to be you know George R R-esque in order to be good.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: And like you said, it it followed his arc the entire way.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: It never lost sight of it.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: It was always there.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: What they introduced in the beginning followed us to the end, everything was closed.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the beats of this thing were incredibly well done.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Action, resolution, and then he thought it all over.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we had that and we got to develop with him.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh plot, I'm getting it a four.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: Rewatchability.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm gonna watch this again, obviously.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's a great time.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: For me, but me, just a personal thing.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I like happy endings, especially right now.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: This obviously wasn't the happiest ending in the world.
• 36:08
  unknown: Sure.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the only thing that knocks it down for me.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: But I will be watching this again.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna pull it out every Thanksgiving.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so I'm I'm gonna give uh rewatchability on this one a three.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it's a 4.1, rounded down to a four.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh it's a great score.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: Puts it up there with some classics.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, very, very well done.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: Very well done.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, especially for a horror film.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love the sort of renaissance that is happening with horror right now.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh horror has traditionally, I guess over the past 30 years, just been the uh the niche with a garbage movie that comes out, and some goth nerd is like, no, you don't understand what's happening in this movie.
• 37:00
  unknown: Yeah.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's happen I'm really happy to see uh where we're going with horror right now.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I really like I really like that horror is becoming a narrative machine, you know?
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's whereas it wasn't always that, you couldn't rely on horror to be a narrative machine.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, I got to uh I recently got access to be able to watch Obsession again, and I watched it with Sarah, and I was like, man, I fucking love this movie.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: What a good movie.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so hard to watch, so just so just brutal, brutal to watch a person's descent, but the narrative machine on that motherfucker is so good when he turns when he turned.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: I loved I loved Cher's reaction when he turns and he the door is duct taped, and she's like she was like, oh no.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and it was uh oh man, it was what a horror right now is in such a good place.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's great.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Excellent.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's so well that being said, there's my booze.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Our final one before we jump onto the golden path.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Here is two the future of horror, and a very, very well-deserved four out of five for Resident Evil.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: And stupid fucking monsters.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: Alright.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so Golden Path.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so I I'm I'm I'm excited to because this whole thing starts with him and a girlfriend having a pregnancy, you know, a conversation.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily call it a scare because it's happening.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's scared.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's scared.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I I feel like pregnancy scares where you guys don't know if you're pregnant, and you're both like, oh shit, oh shit.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he's scared.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, his girlfriend is pregnant and she wants to talk about it.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and he'd rather take more work.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I guess first off, um like yeah, when you're scared of something, it's better to get it over with instead of taking more jobs and winding up in Resident Evil.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's the moral of the movie, essentially, is uh is that is that that's the problem is don't run away from your problems because you get stuck with other problems.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's like the overarching thing.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you categorized it uh at the beginning of him being like a douchebag or a piece of shit too in his conversation with with his girlfriend at the beginning.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't take it that way.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: I felt like he was I felt like there was a miscommunication there.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: He was clearly like, you know, there's no reason to freak out right now.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: And she, and you know, you can't hear her side of the conversation.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: But he's like, no, I'm not saying you're free, I'm not saying you're freaking out.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, like it's because he's freaking out, you know, and uh he's he's scared and he doesn't really know what to say, and he's like overwhelmed.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: He's walking, like it shows him walking by gore, you know, as as he walks in, there's like someone with a head wound right next to him and shit.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: And he's he's like overwhelmed and freaked out, and he ends up running from his problems.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: And this is like this is the first, it's the beginning of the movie, and it's it's part of the first act.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, in the first act we have this fear, this wanting to distance himself from responsibility to the problem.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, so he ends up taking this extra job when they offer more money.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: At first, he he was gonna refuse it, but they offer him more money, and he sees it as like a a justification to avoid the conversation.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think the biggest thing this thing taught us is the dangers of having a job.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for real.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: Son, somebody's assigned for this.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh god, just quit already, man.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, get out of there, dude.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: Fucking quit.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, yeah.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: So so the taking the other job makes him seem avoidant.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and then we get to the farm.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: So this is all in the first act.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: We get to the farmhouse, and then like, and now circumstance makes it impossible.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: It like circumstance makes him avoidant.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: It it it he's now overwhelmed, and the avoidance compounds because of circumstance.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: So, and then we get like his the we get like the second act, which is like him moving on from the farmhouse and like being like, Okay, I do have to confront things.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: I I at this point I can't just stay in this farmhouse or whatever, I gotta move.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so we get to him helping that child, which was a very interesting scene, you know.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: At that point, I was like, wait, what the fuck's going on?
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and and it has him overcoming that fear, and it like literally has him reaching out to a child, you know, and even with his expression, he was like, Oh god.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, All right, here we go.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, and uh and that decision literally bites him, you know, like he like like reaching out, like try like confronting it, he literally gets bitten by it.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: And and the change is initiated, right?
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's starting, it's now like okay, a change I'm changing because of my experiences.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, I didn't kill a child.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_01: I like children, you know.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and and so, and then we move on uh into the third act when he's when we start to when he's he gets to the hospital and he he he you know he he leaves that message for his his girlfriend that you know I'm sorry I was afraid of change, I'm sorry I wasn't able to confront it.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it doesn't look like there's not going to be an opportunity now.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I just wanted to say that I regret it, you know.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and I hope I hope you have a good life.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just I just love that message so much because that's the message that you as the hero would find when you're getting ready to fight the Brian monster in that hospital.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: And probably like 80% of players run by and don't give a shit.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: They don't even look at it, they're just run by and don't give a fuck.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: But each of those messages you find is someone's life.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I loved that.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: I loved that.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: It really really adds depth and and again through line for our character.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: And and in that same third act, he it's essentially finally confronting that the the ch that change is inevitable.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so he ends up we we we end up, and and you know, we talked about you'd mentioned the maternity ward before, but like I actually really liked the maternity ward.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Scene.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: It did look a little green screeny.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: Once we got in there, it was really interesting, though.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: But literally, he like has to face the idea, like he has to face this was almost Silent Hill to me, I thought.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: Where you can find out.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of Silent Hill here.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this like psychosexual about what childbirth is and what and what like uh it's all gory and bloody and a sack bursts and explodes blood everywhere.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: See, that's it that you bring that up, like because I I uh am a huge silent evil guy.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: I've always preferred Silent Evil to Resident Evil, and I preferred it because of the things we saw in this Resident Evil movie.
• 45:02
  unknown: Yeah.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: The through line, the the the character arc, the psychological horror that's happening parallel to the abject terror, which what did wasn't in Resident Evil.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then it pisses me off that last year we had a Silent Hill movie that was just hot ass.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: So bad.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: So fucking bad.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_01: I was so mad when I left that theater.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so me as a Silent Hill fan, because of the exact reasons you're talking about, and I preferred Silent Hill because Resident Evil lacked these things.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: But we got it in this movie, and it felt very Silent Hilly when he goes into this maternity ward, and then and then the thing bursts and sprays blood all over him, and and then literally like it the room births chaos.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like the the like like a birth.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: A birth is chaos.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: It like introduces chaos into your life.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like stability, it's like it upends your entire life.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then he and then he you know yeah, he flees from it again.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: Rightfully, he flees from it and then closes the door and locks it behind him.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: But then he has to go through this thing where he like accepts the chaos, and he's like, Okay, managing chaos, like pulling every skill I have that I've learned out to manage this chaos when he shoots the broom and like uses the chaos to like create a better situation for himself with the zombies coming out and falling on his enemy.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_01: And also he apologizes to the monster, which is like growth, you know, like I'm really sorry about the trauma, like I'm sorry about what I did.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: I you know, uh, and then he and then and that's when he over that's when he chooses to embrace the chaos and use the chaos.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: And and after that, we get his final punishment.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's like, yes, you did all that growing, and yes, you you you worked really hard to to be better and and you fought through everything, but you made um but the mistake you made in the past it can't be undone.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like you you you you're fucked up.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you fucked up, you can't undo your mistakes.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: We had talked about this about a recent one, uh that you that you just you can't what's done is done, and you can't undo it.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that might be it might have been obsession that we were talking about.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_01: But what's done is done, you can't undo it.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so he gets his final punishment, which his his body, you know, the hit he changes into a boss and he becomes unrecognizable to himself.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like he embraces the change in the end.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: He he fights it up until the very last moment and then throws away the cure, uh, and and gives up on trying to go back.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_01: Chain the chain change he you cannot avoid change.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_01: When you try to avoid change, change will happen to you, you know.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and you don't get you don't get to choose when it what happens after after you avoid the first time.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, and it definitely went uh went tits up for him.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: And oh the fucking scientists, I hated them so much.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I hated them so much.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: I thought they were okay.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: I thought they were just in a bad they were they were, of course, ivory tower scientists, right?
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like they were literally in a white in a white room above all the chaos, even though they were the cause of it.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it gets you in the end.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: It gets you in the end.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, billionaires.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you pay attention right there.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it does get you in the end, and you're you're just an irritating footnote at that point.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the word the working men, the working man literally consumed the the people in the ivory tower who were the cause of his problems.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: He shoved them into his giant tummy mouth.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: Which is which is what I think all of us working down here are hoping for in the end is to shove a rich person into our tummy mouth.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I think you know, I don't know how many people caught that subtext from like the first act all the way through to the final, but it is it is so good.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_01: It it made the movie for me.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: It even even if you didn't catch why so many people are rating this movie so well that they have to feel it.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_01: There's gotta be something about humanity and storytelling that people p that people understand even when they're not conscious of it, that that they know makes it better, right?
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and yeah, and it really was uh it was it was really great.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the the arc was great.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, no, and I'm I'm interested to see what happened because like when obsession had such a huge breakout, all of a sudden now every Hollywood exec who hasn't realized that Hollywood is losing what it is, it was like, all right, we gotta start the YouTube movie pipeline and we're gonna put out a bunch of shit obsessions.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: And now this one exploded.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: All right, we gotta start the video game horror pipeline, and we're about to have a like so I'm we're either gonna see something really good or we're but we're buckling up for a lot of trash coming our way.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: They always take the wrong message, it's not they should not they should not they should not be doing video game horror pipeline.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: What they should be doing is sketch comedy person to horror pipeline to horror, yes, which is a niche, it's a niche.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's the pipeline, that's Jordan Peel.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: That that's that's Kregger, you know, like those they always take the wrong lesson because it's because the people who are making these decisions have no talent, they have no education, they're strictly from they're just crotch goblins of a more talented person.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so we'll yeah, we're never gonna get the good thing.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like they they don't like all they've ever known is excess and easy, and there's no We've got to shove them into our abdomen chompers.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh I can't wait.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are going in my tummy mouth.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: You're all going in my tummy mouth.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: And they're all gonna be like, you know, that uh that boss that just ate Carl, uh the boss creature, he seemed completely aware and in control and okay with what was happening.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: Into my tummy mouth, rich person.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: He seemed to be fighting it.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: I thought he was gonna fight it.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, and he's reached this perfect equilibrium with the boss.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: Eat the rich nom.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, um, with that being said, I think it's time to insert ourselves into Resident Evil.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, James, who would you be in uh Resident Evil?
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: How would this change with you?
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: How would this change with me?
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: I all I know is that no matter where I put myself in this movie, I'm gonna be so frustrated by the second dumbest guy I know.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's gonna be I'm gonna be I'm gonna be way over it immediately.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think that who would I be?
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_01: Who would I be?
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: Who would I be?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: I would be I would be the nurse at the very beginning, the one who has the delivery.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's who I'd be.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: The one who talks to him about the delivery.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: And and when he uh when he agrees to take the job, and I'm like, listen, you gotta have snow tires and stuff.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: Snow tires are chased and stuff, and he is like clearly he does not have snow tires, I would be like, you know what?
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Just wait a second.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_01: You need to come out, come out with me, let's have, let's have a smoke.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: Let's just have a let's have let's have a joint a little bit, let's talk.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on in your life?
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know, if you go up there without without snow chains, that's not a good thing.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like not a good thing, but you need it up in the mountains.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: I have a feeling you're not used to that.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's uh it's bad, it's real bad.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: You could hit some lady and she could be a zombie, start slapping you in the face, which is which is a really I loved that scene.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: The the the yeah, she keeps doing that when the cop was like that.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was fun.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: That was a lot.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: I liked that.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: That that was very reminiscent of um there was it was uh Code Zero, I want to say it was, where it was a it was like a sort of an anthology video game where you where each one you played a more normal person inside Raccoon City and you saw how it affected the normal people.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: And those little interaction I loved that one.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: And like honestly, that one had a lot of influence on me in terms of just how I feel about horror and the way I like I write about horror and things like that was that game at such a young age.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, just patting it away.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: It gave me such a uh an everyman view of it, and I I I really enjoyed it.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was really good.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, you know what?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: You gotta like it.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_01: Seems like you're running away from your problems.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: We we should get I I should get someone who's better equipped to to get this over to Raccoon City.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_01: By the time that happened, there would be a helicopter on its way to pick it up because it needed to fly it over to the roof of the building or whatever.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_01: And and that dude, and Brian would have been saved.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: He would have gone home to his girlfriend, she wouldn't have had to go stay that stay at Katie's for a while.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: Please don't go to Katie's no.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: He'd just go home, they'd have a conversation about it.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe he'd grow, maybe he wouldn't, but he also wouldn't be the boss that Leon has to fight.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, and for me, uh, you know, I you know, I can't help it.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: I always look in in uh the lens of all right if I'm following the protagonist.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: First things first, like realistically, just me.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, in the words of one of my favorite um literary characters, it's better to do a thing than live with the fear of it.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_00: And when we're having that pregnancy thing, it's like, hey, you need this other job, like, not tonight.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: And me, I've just I've never escaped into work.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking to get to a bar.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna take on another fucking job.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I I have uh a person I obviously care about at home.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like I know it's not gonna be pretty, but no, I gotta get home and we gotta talk about this.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: Roll credits.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty much where I would immediately diverge.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: If for some reason I was forced into this, there'd be just like some things I like, and I like I was talking to my girlfriend, she watched it with me last night.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: She wouldn't stop for the person that she hit on the road.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: She would stop.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, nope, nope, nope, nope.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you shouldn't have been jumping in the road.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, immediately and I'm like, fuck, I would, because immediately I'm like, someone might be hurt.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: And when when I stop and I see that they wandered off into the woods, and again, she's like, nope, fuck that, I'm out of there.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: In my brain, I'm like, no, she's obviously in shock.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: She just got hit by a car, she's wandering off the road.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_00: And if I want to avoid jail time in this, I need to have shown an effort.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm following those footprints.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it's funny you say that because if you go back and listen to our early episodes, this was a dilemma that we posited to each other.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: There were three of us, and I don't remember if it was Trey or not, but uh, there were three of us having a conversation of what would you do if you hit someone on the side of the road, uh-huh, and your answer was different, and you have grown as a person.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, thank you.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: And no, and that's what I think that's one of the fun things about this podcast is the longevity allows you to see our growth cycles.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and um, but so yeah, I would so assuming I, for whatever reason, decided to work more, which right away is a fantasy, I would follow a lot of his things.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: But that's when just for me, um, you know, especially now that I'm officially out, by the way.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: I like I'm I am no longer part of the military, I could more freely speak about a military background, the movie wouldn't be as fun because I know how to use all the weapons he's going.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna keep shooting fucking locks because chances are you're just gonna take a bullet in the forehead when you keep shooting these fucking locks.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing any of that sort of thing.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: And and essentially what you're just gonna start watching then at that point, like my movie's gonna suck a little more because I think what's gonna occur, like when I see that girl in the in the in the in the bathroom and I see her foot, I'm not gonna blow her brains out.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's like a really easy answer, and a lot of people are gonna say it.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: And like, no, you're not.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm gonna get you some help, and I'm just gonna close that door again.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and assuming she still jumps out and bites me, I'm gonna make it through there.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: I know how to use these weapons, I'm not making a lot of the same mistakes he did.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: But by the time I get to the end, I'm gonna be fucking feral.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_00: And um, when I get up there, it's not, I'm not gonna sit in the chair.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: That last bullet's coming out, it's going right on a doctor's forehead.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, make the thing, put it in me now.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's none of this NPC.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_00: The politeness in me is gone.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: The politeness in me is gone.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just see the situation where I make it to the end, I get my thing, and I go down the lower level combatant tier into a future uh pantheon of Resident Evil.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, like me and Leon, we're gonna have a game coming up here pretty soon.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm excited to see you know how I am in my 50s, like Leon's in his 50s right now, so that'll be fun.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: Chris Redfield's gonna show up and be like, Did you fuck my sister?
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: Did you did you fucking have a few?
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_00: Good job, bro.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah, dude.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, and we jump into Resident Evil 10.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because now these things are never going away.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: With the with the success of their last one and all that kind of stuff, I just get to be in the next game, and it's it's gonna be super uh the 300 gay, as uh me, Leon, and Chris Redford just fight stuff with our 50-year-old man abs.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that that's what we'll do.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be 300 gay.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd watch it.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I would I would too.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_00: This movie wouldn't be as fun.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_00: This movie wouldn't be as fun with me.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: So um, it's either gonna be a conversation in the beginning or you we introduce a new protagonist.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's me.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: So there you have it, everyone.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, uh uh Zach, to uh, you know, and you could get as many gallons of PCP as you want now, I assume.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good job, Craggers.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, good to you.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_00: Four out of five.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: Resident Evil.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: See it.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Ryan Barrett Northwest me.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: As always, James Croslin.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 1:00:40
  unknown: Oh