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Brian talks to Cory Bowman this morning · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Show a man who knows where can get a really
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Speaker 1: good cup of coffee. Former mayoral candidate for the City
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, minister and business owner and West End resident,
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman. Good to have you back on this show,
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Speaker 1: my friend. Always a pleasure hearing from.
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Speaker 2: You, Brian. Thank you so much as always for having me.
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Speaker 2: And it was awesome listening to former Congressman brad Winstrip
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Speaker 2: You had some awesome insight at your previous show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had fun to go even said that, because
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Speaker 1: that was a really good time talking with you back
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Speaker 1: and forth about all those issues. So I hope the
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Speaker 1: rest of the listening audience appreciate it as well. It's
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Speaker 1: good to have someone doing a back and forth and
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Speaker 1: bouncing ideas off of each other, and also someone who
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Speaker 1: tends to agree with you pretty much on everything. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, let's start with your new podcast, produced by
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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker. Of course you're doing the Corey Bowman Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Let me just ask you out loud, what's your hope?
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Speaker 1: What do you hope to address in your podcast? I mean,
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Speaker 1: what's your vision for the future. What do you expect
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Speaker 1: people to hear if they start listening to your podcast?
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So for one, thank you, Joe, I know he's listening.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for putting these podcasts together and
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Speaker 2: for all he does for this show. It's just so
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Speaker 2: important all the issues that you guys discuss every morning.
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Speaker 2: But as far as this goes, you know, I think
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Speaker 2: we live in a world to where it's only during
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Speaker 2: election seasons where we see politicians or figures, you know,
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Speaker 2: voicing their opinions about things. And last year's mayoral race
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Speaker 2: was never about that. For me. It was about just
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Speaker 2: voicing our concerns about what's going on in the city
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Speaker 2: that we love. And so even my boy, it was
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Speaker 2: so funny while I was driving him to school this
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Speaker 2: morning and he hears your voice on the radio and
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Speaker 2: it says former mayoral candidate, and all he heard was
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Speaker 2: mayoral candidate. He said, Dad, I don't think you're running
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Speaker 2: for mayor anymore. And I just said, well, we He said,
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Speaker 2: why are you on the radio, and he said, I
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Speaker 2: just told him we can still have a voice, and
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Speaker 2: it's still important to always voice your opinions, and it's
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Speaker 2: always important to bring these things in the conversation. You know.
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Speaker 2: I was speaking with somebody I was at Price so
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Speaker 2: Chili last night, and there was some ands that we're
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Speaker 2: doing some petition signings there, and a lot of them
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Speaker 2: are entering into primaries that they don't necessarily think that
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Speaker 2: they're gonna have any chance of winning. But I tell
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Speaker 2: them it's very important to be in these races because
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Speaker 2: you're going to bring topics to the conversation that need
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Speaker 2: to be at the forefront that wouldn't be there if
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Speaker 2: there was an opposition from the other aisle. So I
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Speaker 2: think that's important not only with this podcast, but every
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Speaker 2: listener listening and every person that's seeing what's happening in
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Speaker 2: the city and the county and the state. It's important
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Speaker 2: to always have your voice heard well.
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Speaker 1: And you're someone here. They always talk about the community,
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Speaker 1: and of course when I say they, I'm talking about me,
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Speaker 1: the left wing of the political spectrum, whatever. But the
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Speaker 1: people who run the city, they always talk about meeting
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Speaker 1: and need with the community needs this. The community needs that. Well,
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Speaker 1: Corey Bauman, you and your family are in the community,
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Speaker 1: your business is in the community, your church is in
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Speaker 1: the community. You just bucked the narrative, this one solid,
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent lockstep narrative that they always offer, which
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Speaker 1: is usually some ridiculous, woke agenda that doesn't have the
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Speaker 1: appropriate priorities for the needs of the residents of the communities, like,
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Speaker 1: for example, keeping the damn roads repaired, simple ask, easy
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Speaker 1: to do conceptually, anyway, did you put that the first
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Speaker 1: and the foremost? And you're pushing some ridiculous project back
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Speaker 1: at where you're gonna have a ribbon cutting ceremony that's
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Speaker 1: only going to benefit like five people in the city
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Speaker 1: or something. Sorry, go ahead, Corey, No.
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. You know, elected officials are supposed to
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Speaker 2: represent the communities, and honestly, I'm one thing I'm actually
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Speaker 2: discouraged about. You know. I know everybody has their own
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Speaker 2: decisions that they have to make, but the voters voted
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Speaker 2: to elect the current city council to serve their city
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Speaker 2: during this term. And it was almost immediately after this
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Speaker 2: election happened where two council members announce that they're running
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Speaker 2: different races this year in the middle of city council.
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Speaker 2: And I just don't like that because for me, if
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Speaker 2: you're stepping into a position like that, you are there
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Speaker 2: to protect and serve, You're there to have the responsibilities
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Speaker 2: that you were elected for. And focus on that. I
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Speaker 2: get it, there's a future to look at when it
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Speaker 2: comes to political processes, But it was like almost immediately
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Speaker 2: they say, Okay, we got over that barrier of making
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Speaker 2: sure that we have city council lockdown. Now we're going
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Speaker 2: to run for treasure or for county commissioner or whatever.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's where people lose a lot of
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Speaker 2: trust when in elected officials, it's all about a position.
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Speaker 2: It's always about the next step, it's always about climbing
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Speaker 2: the ladder. I made the joke during the election turn
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Speaker 2: the debates that you know, I feel like a lot
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Speaker 2: of these politicians in our current mayor, like the Brian
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Speaker 2: Kellys of Cincinnati, when it comes to politics, they're just
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Speaker 2: waiting for that call from Notre Dame or LSU or
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Speaker 2: whatever to move on while not caring about the current
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Speaker 2: program that they're involved in exactly.
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Speaker 1: And then this concept of you know your son's coming,
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Speaker 1: you're not running from here, and you're actually moving over
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Speaker 1: to the price wal chili, then I don't have a
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Speaker 1: chance of winning or standing chances of winning. How important
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Speaker 1: it is for that alternative voice to be heard because
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Speaker 1: it requires the other side to address the points that
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Speaker 1: are made. It forces them into a debate category that
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Speaker 1: they may not otherwise go down. And I think that
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Speaker 1: was one of the great things we got out of
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Speaker 1: your running for mayor. At least there was a republican
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Speaker 1: An alternative to mayor, have to have purval that someone
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Speaker 1: was running. That gave people the choice. And then if
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Speaker 1: you weren't there stirring the pod and bringing to people's
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Speaker 1: attention while they were while running for mayor all of
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Speaker 1: these issues that they were supposed to be on top of.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they would have allocated the five million
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Speaker 1: or whatever million dollars and refocused on crime and safety
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Speaker 1: in the city, like putting up cameras in your neighborhood
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Speaker 1: that have been promised for a couple of years. If
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Speaker 1: you weren't in the race, they wouldn't have been forced
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Speaker 1: to even deal with that. They would have kept saying, now,
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Speaker 1: there's no crime in Cincinnati, it is nothing to see here.
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Speaker 1: We're going to go about your business while prioritizing other
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Speaker 1: things that really don't benefit all the residents, as we
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Speaker 1: talked about before.
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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right, and you know you mentioned the cameras.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think one of the biggest things that
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Speaker 2: we've got to hold city officials accountable for is their
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Speaker 2: proactiveness because when it comes to these cameras. I actually
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Speaker 2: just spoke at another event at the Convention Center, which
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Speaker 2: the Convention Center updates are great. Was very happy to
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Speaker 2: see what's going on there. But I spoke with a
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Speaker 2: few individuals that are involved in the contract work for
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Speaker 2: installing the cameras, and they were telling me the process
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Speaker 2: of everything, and there's a lot of red tape. Well
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Speaker 2: all number one when it comes to these cameras, you
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Speaker 2: have to have fiber, you have to have power, you
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Speaker 2: have to have property permission to put up cameras. There's
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Speaker 2: a lot of different logistics that go into it. So
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's not a lot of work to it.
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Speaker 2: The problem is is that there haven't been proactive in
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Speaker 2: the installation. The city hasn't over the last few years.
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Speaker 2: Now that we just saw that Queen Irie, eleven year
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Speaker 2: old girl was shot six blocks away from my church
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Speaker 2: at Laurel Park, two years after Dominic Davis was shot
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Speaker 2: in the same area. Now you're seeing a big push
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Speaker 2: for these installations on tract. Workers I would talking to
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Speaker 2: are saying, well, they're giving us numbers that are impossible
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Speaker 2: to install right now, we could have easily taken care
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Speaker 2: of this. It's the proactiveness was there over the last
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Speaker 2: few years, right, but now all the pressure of the
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Speaker 2: media is there now they're trying to push. It's the
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Speaker 2: same thing with the potholes. It's the same thing with
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Speaker 2: a lot of issues that we see with the city.
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Speaker 2: It's like they only wait until the wheel gets squeaky
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Speaker 2: in order to actually take care of it. But there's
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Speaker 2: something called maintenance. When it comes to a car. I
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Speaker 2: don't wait until the engine locks up to look at
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Speaker 2: the oil. I actually get an oil change regularly, no
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Speaker 2: matter what the towns are coming from the engine. You
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Speaker 2: don't wait until the check engine light comes on to
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Speaker 2: properly take care of your vehicle. In the same way,
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Speaker 2: you don't wait until there's just mass hysteria and pressure
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Speaker 2: from the media only then to approach these issues. You
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Speaker 2: need to address all the issues proactively. Take care of
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Speaker 2: the city streets, keep them clean, keep them safe, keep
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Speaker 2: them prosperous.
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Speaker 1: The pressure to do that, though, is wanting in the
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Speaker 1: city again, which is why I'm glad at least you
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Speaker 1: have in the podcast and you remain active here on
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Speaker 1: the morning show and raising these issues from a more
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Speaker 1: conservatives I would argue, more sensible perspective, fiscally responsible perspective,
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Speaker 1: prioritization perspective. But you can't get them even to talk
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Speaker 1: to reporters. Reporters don't even bother to them. I'm referring to,
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Speaker 1: of course, council members, maybe the mayor again going back
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Speaker 1: to the ribbon coming comment. He'll readily show up to
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Speaker 1: cut a ribbon, but when it comes to the day
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Speaker 1: in and day out operations of the city and the
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Speaker 1: problems that we all face as residents, they're nowhere to
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Speaker 1: be found. And they may hear the complaints of you
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Speaker 1: or someone else, but they're not forced to have to
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Speaker 1: address them in any forum, so they can just comfortably
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Speaker 1: ignore them since they're not really accountable to anybody. It's
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Speaker 1: that lack of accountability component that really bothers me and
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Speaker 1: I think frustrates a lot of people.
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Speaker 2: No, it absolutely does. And also this is why it's
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Speaker 2: actually important to have diversity of thought and opinion on council.
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Speaker 2: You know, I get it. You know, we're in a
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Speaker 2: fairly blue city. We've seen that feral election. We have
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Speaker 2: to have. We have to have differences of opinion because
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Speaker 2: you know, I know what it's like to have siblings
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Speaker 2: to where if you get in trouble, then you go
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Speaker 2: into the corner and you talk and get your story
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Speaker 2: straight before you go to mom and dad, right, because
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Speaker 2: you don't want to be in trouble. Well, that's exactly
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Speaker 2: what happens at city Hall is that basically they wait
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Speaker 2: until they get their story straight before they come to
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Speaker 2: the media. And that comes from that one party rule,
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Speaker 2: that comes from that just echo chamber. But if you
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Speaker 2: had differences of opinion, we'd be able to have differences
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Speaker 2: of solutions and find the best things to be able
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Speaker 2: to do for our city.
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Speaker 1: Yes, oh you can pipe dream about that all day long.
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Speaker 1: But if only one at a four registered voter shows
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Speaker 1: up and they're the very hardcore blue political activists in
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Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati, then you're going to get the
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Speaker 1: same thing over and over. Definition of stupidity. Corey Bumma
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Speaker 1: will continue. We got one more segment and then we're
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Speaker 1: gonna hear.
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Speaker 2: From talk station.
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Speaker 1: Eight nineteen. If you have k City talk station, We're
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Hope you got good plans over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: Bright the time, I was way a former mayoral candidate,
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Speaker 1: still minister at the River Church right there at the
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Speaker 1: corner of Clark and John John Street, Downtown Cincinnati. Owner
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Speaker 1: of King's Arms Coffee. Stop on in and get a
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Speaker 1: cup of good coffee. You can do that at nineteen
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Speaker 1: hundred Bay Miller Street. There's a plug for your business. Corey.
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Speaker 1: I'm happy to do it. Don't get anything in return
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Speaker 1: for that. But also still activist. He wants to keep
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Speaker 1: the name out in the world. He wants to do
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Speaker 1: good for the city of Cincinnati. That's why Corey Bowmen
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Speaker 1: comes on my show to talk about issues that are
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Speaker 1: impacting the city, even though the city doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: talk about him. But also why he has now been
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Speaker 1: doing a podcast, the Corey Bowman Podcast, produced by executive
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Speaker 1: producer of this program, Joe Stracker. Now, Corey, I understand
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Speaker 1: we've got some budgeting problems going on in the City
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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. There's a hole that needs to be filled.
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Speaker 1: I'm scratching my head over this. When I suppose the
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Speaker 1: COVID money ran out, which was sustaining our unsustainable budget.
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Speaker 1: What's happening right now, Corey Bowmen?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think probably one of the biggest issues
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Speaker 2: that we're seeing is that it's not even necessarily a
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Speaker 2: lack of funds. It's that they're not only misappropriated, but
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Speaker 2: also just not being spent. One of the biggest things
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Speaker 2: we tried to push during the election. There was a
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Speaker 2: lot of noise obviously on certain issues, but one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest issues we are trying to bring to light
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Speaker 2: is that we don't have the infrastructure or the relationships
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Speaker 2: contractually to be able to spend the money properly for
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Speaker 2: what needs to be done in our city. So one
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Speaker 2: biggest one of the biggest things is infrastructure. Right, we
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Speaker 2: sold a railroad for one point six billion dollars where
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Speaker 2: alex we're basically put that in a trust fund. Trust
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Speaker 2: fund invest it. Then we're supposed to get money on
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Speaker 2: the dividends. That's upwards of fifty four million dollars at
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Speaker 2: a time. But here's the thing is that a lot
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Speaker 2: of this money is going unspent because you have to
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Speaker 2: have proper contracts, you have to I mean, everything's done
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Speaker 2: you know, supposedly transparently, and so people are going to
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Speaker 2: see where the money's spent, and so they've got to
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Speaker 2: spend the money where it's supposed to be allocated to.
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Speaker 2: What happens is that you know, if you don't know
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Speaker 2: I grew up with a custom homebuilder as my father,
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Speaker 2: If you don't know the proper plumber right, or if
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Speaker 2: you don't know the proper framer, or if you don't
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Speaker 2: know or if you don't have these relationships and these
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Speaker 2: established working relationships in place, well it's going to be
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Speaker 2: very hard and time consuming to be able to build
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Speaker 2: a house properly. Well, in the same way, you've got
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Speaker 2: a whole city that needs potholes covered and needs repaving,
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Speaker 2: needs a lot of things done from a maintenance perspective,
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Speaker 2: and we don't necessarily have the capacity to do it
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Speaker 2: right now. And I put that right to the city
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Speaker 2: manager's office, because when it comes to proactiveness, put a
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Speaker 2: plan together in place to where you could take care
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Speaker 2: of these within a one year, two year, three year timeframe.
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Speaker 2: Same thing that we're seeing with the cameras. You know,
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Speaker 2: you had the funds actually allocated toward the cameras, so
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Speaker 2: on the books and to the media they'll say, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we allocate the funds, but then the funds just sit there.
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Speaker 2: They can get the contracts together until they can get
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Speaker 2: that going. That's another reason why a lot of people
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Speaker 2: might not like the quickness of it. But you're seeing
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Speaker 2: at a rapid pace what President Donald Trump is doing
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Speaker 2: is because he was a contractor. I mean, he was
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Speaker 2: a developer. And one of the biggest things with that
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Speaker 2: is that you have to stay on time, you have
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Speaker 2: to stay on budget, you have to be able to
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Speaker 2: move quickly and be proactive and everything, and you have
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Speaker 2: to have foresight on what the problems are going to be.
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Speaker 2: And that's not what's happening from city Hall right now.
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Speaker 2: So everybody's asking whyrant to pop hooles fix why aren't
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Speaker 2: the camera's up? And then you'll see like a media
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Speaker 2: story that says, we just allocated these funds for it.
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Speaker 2: That's not a guarantee that it's going to be done
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Speaker 2: because the funds actually have to be spent properly, and
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Speaker 2: that has to do with the administration.
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Speaker 1: Well, and let's just go back to the failure of
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Speaker 1: the child, the first young eleven year old that was
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Speaker 1: murdered in your neighborhood in the park. That's when they
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Speaker 1: promised the cameras originally, no, not that cameras are going
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Speaker 1: to eliminate the problems from happening, but certainly act as
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Speaker 1: a turns effect. We all appreciate the benefit of having
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Speaker 1: those you know, big brother watching out because well, they
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Speaker 1: deter criminals. So two years ago is when they should
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Speaker 1: have started getting the work done, the groundwork done to
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Speaker 1: put the cameras up. As you pointed out, it requires
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Speaker 1: the agreement of property owners, fiber needs to be run, whatever,
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Speaker 1: So they should have started doing it back when they
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Speaker 1: promised it. But they didn't even allocate funds. They didn't
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Speaker 1: even say, Hey, we've got a pile of money that
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Speaker 1: is going toward the cameras. Wait for it. It's going
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Speaker 1: to take a while, but we're on the job. They
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Speaker 1: can't say we're on the job part if they haven't
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Speaker 1: gotten the machinery in motion to get the job accomplished.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I talked with the contract worker that you know
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Speaker 2: basically is in charge of the cameras, and what he
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Speaker 2: said was that the city purchases the cameras from us.
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Speaker 2: We have every ability and the knowledge of the city
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Speaker 2: because we're local to be able to install them. But
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Speaker 2: what I found out is that the city contracts the
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Speaker 2: cameras and the purchases from one company, and then you
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Speaker 2: have to go to another company to get that installed,
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Speaker 2: and then they have to coordinate with CPD and everything else.
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Speaker 2: So there's too many middlemen in the process. That comes
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Speaker 2: from just lack of administrative capability, and so stuff like
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Speaker 2: that has to be bypassed. We've got to go straight
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Speaker 2: to the source. But also, unfortunately, a lot of this
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Speaker 2: have to do with who's getting the money, right. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you want to make sure that their friends and partners,
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Speaker 2: they want to make sure that the people of special
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Speaker 2: interests are getting their cut, and that needs to stop.
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Speaker 2: We need to get to the root of the issue.
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Speaker 2: We need to hire the best. I talked with union
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Speaker 2: workers and trade unions during the election. They said that
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Speaker 2: this administration in the city is terrible to work with.
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Speaker 2: They won't have any purchase labor agreements, they won't be
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Speaker 2: able to do any of it because they got to
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Speaker 2: make sure that their friends and partners or the special
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Speaker 2: interests are taken care of before they hire locally or
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Speaker 2: before they hire from the people that are building Cincinnati properly.
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Speaker 1: That is corruption exposed right there. And isn't there an
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Speaker 1: open bidding requirement for some of this work? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know they say funds are allocated. Honestly, Corey Bowman,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they've given us a list of
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Speaker 1: projects where, even though work is not being done and
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Speaker 1: money has not yet been spent, where are the what
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Speaker 1: projects are the quote unquote allocated funds going toward? Did
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Speaker 1: you submit those for open bidding so we can get
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Speaker 1: the best possible deal for it? What obligations do they
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Speaker 1: have to do that open bidding kind of thing, Corey,
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Speaker 1: I want to know that.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the open bidding is important, but also what
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Speaker 2: we run these campaigns on, or what supposedly people are
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Speaker 2: running campaigns on, is that we're going to help Cincinnati.
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Speaker 2: Right So, I don't know if you know, but there
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Speaker 2: is a lot of work and construction work going on
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Speaker 2: downtown right now between the convention Center supposedly the new
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Speaker 2: hotel going in. There's a lot of demolition at least
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Speaker 2: going on from parking garages and stuff like that. That
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Speaker 2: all takes work, that all takes labor. That's stuff that
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Speaker 2: people in Cincinnati need. But then I find out from
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Speaker 2: unions that because there's no labor agreements, because there's no
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Speaker 2: proper you know, establishing of that, than a lot of
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Speaker 2: this work gets outsourced out of state, and you know,
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Speaker 2: we're hoping to build Cincinnati businesses. It's not about overpaying,
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Speaker 2: but it's making sure that the money stays local, right
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Speaker 2: because if the money stays local, it's going to be
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Speaker 2: spent local and that's what drives our economy of our city.
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Speaker 2: But that's not being done because of all the red
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Speaker 2: tape that has to be done or trying to find
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Speaker 2: out the best case scenario when it comes to the
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Speaker 2: special interest.
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman and former marri candidate's still active in connection
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Speaker 1: with what he wants to the city, which is what's
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Speaker 1: best for the residents of the entire city. You'll find
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Speaker 1: him in the future in here on the Morning Show.
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Speaker 1: Of course, He's always welcome back The Corey Bowman Podcast