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Stagecoach and the Hilarious John Crist · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 5: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have such a
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  Speaker 2: great interview for you guys today with the hilarious John Crist.
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  Speaker 2: He is so funny and we also get into some
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  Speaker 2: heartfelt moments, so I know you guys are going to
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  Speaker 2: love it. And first let me tell you, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: went to Stagecoach. I had such a blast. I went
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  Speaker 2: with my girlfriend, Stacey. We met the first day of USC,
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  Speaker 2: so we had just such a fun girls weekend. And
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  Speaker 2: we went Friday and we went at the golden hour.
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  Speaker 2: I had worn my boot barn outfit to a party before,
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  Speaker 2: took the photos that I needed, and then I switched
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  Speaker 2: out my shoes to tennis shoes. And it is a
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  Speaker 2: life changer for everyone. And I don't know how these
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  Speaker 2: girls did it, like multiple days. I knew from the
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  Speaker 2: previous years. So in one of the photos, I showed
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  Speaker 2: my tennis shoes because I told you guys I was
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  Speaker 2: going to go tennis shoes. But then we stumbled into
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  Speaker 2: a karaoke bar that I did not realize S-Y-R-N is,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's pronounced siren, but it is the name
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  Speaker 2: of Sydney Sweeney's lingerie brand. And it was her pop-up,
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  Speaker 2: her thing. So I go, oh my God, it would
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  Speaker 2: be kind of great to do karaoke and get this
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  Speaker 2: on video. And I said, I'm sure the line is long.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't. This is Friday. There was only like two
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  Speaker 2: people out of me. So yes, I did my classic
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  Speaker 2: Bonnie Raitt, which for those of Juicy Scoopers that have
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  Speaker 2: been around forever, I even talk about it in my book,
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  Speaker 2: You'll Never Blue Ball in This Town Again, about what
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  Speaker 2: is the best karaoke song to sing. So I sang
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  Speaker 2: it and it was pretty fun. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all comedians really want to be singers. I mean, Theo
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  Speaker 2: Vaughn got brought up on stage and then I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be brought up on the actual
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  Speaker 2: stagecoach stage. I'm going to go and do my karaoke.
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  Speaker 2: But what happened is right before I about to go on,
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  Speaker 2: I told my friend, this is what sorority sisters do.
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  Speaker 2: I said, we're going to have to switch out the shoes.
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  Speaker 2: Give me your boots. So when I go up on
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  Speaker 2: stage and you film it, I have a full Western
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  Speaker 2: outfit on. And that's, she took my ugly tennis shoes
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  Speaker 2: and I took her boots and it was all good.
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  Speaker 2: And then we switched them up and she said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even for that three minutes of me filming you, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, Heather's sneakers are really a dream. So
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  Speaker 2: the next day, We went to a fun party, like
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  Speaker 2: at the Tommy Bahamas Hotel right there in Palm Desert
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  Speaker 2: and had like barbecue, got this cute charm necklace. Look
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  Speaker 2: at the Stetson hats, did all the things. And then
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  Speaker 2: we went to the rodeo, which was really fun. And
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  Speaker 2: then I was like, okay, now we need to work
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  Speaker 2: the outfits around the tennis shoes again, which we did
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  Speaker 2: with jackets. And the wind was starting and It was
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  Speaker 2: the first time I ever was smart about something. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, Stacy, I'm telling you, I think the wind
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  Speaker 2: is going to get way worse. And this just isn't fun.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's get out before everybody else. We then
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  Speaker 2: start the trek. She was wearing her tennis shoes too.
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  Speaker 2: Start the trek. And it was like, I've never experienced
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  Speaker 2: this kind of wind. I thought I was on the
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  Speaker 2: moon if someone has ever gone there, which we still
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they have. But anyway, I was on
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  Speaker 2: the moon and I was trekking through and we were like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, I don't even know, like, should we
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  Speaker 2: call the Ubers? No, let's just, she said, remember there
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  Speaker 2: were cabs. Let's get a cab overcharged. Who cares? Got home,
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  Speaker 2: jumped in the shower. And then they said, we're evacuating
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  Speaker 2: the place. And then I was like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: my juicy scoopers are going to be so worried about
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  Speaker 2: me that they're going to think that I didn't make
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  Speaker 2: it out in time. And I almost did a video
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  Speaker 2: just to say, you guys, I'm okay. Okay. And then
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  Speaker 2: I saw what was happening in DC and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I don't need to talk about how am I right?
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  Speaker 2: You guys, I didn't get to see the whole concert,
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  Speaker 2: but I am safe. So then I, then they said,
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  Speaker 2: come on back. Well, I don't know if you were
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  Speaker 2: probably half the people didn't come back. It was, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, you had to be safe. And then Sunday
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't go. I watched a post Malone from
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  Speaker 2: my comfy couch. Anyway, it was really fun. I it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's a, it's a lot of walking, but it is
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  Speaker 2: a good time. So then over the weekend, also there
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  Speaker 2: was a summer house audio leak. which sounded like somebody
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  Speaker 2: just had their phone there. And we heard a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of Sierra giving it to Amanda about her being
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  Speaker 2: a cheating hoey friend with West. And everybody was like,
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  Speaker 2: did West do it? Did he leak it so that
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  Speaker 2: he could just get fired and have a big career
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  Speaker 2: as a podcaster? Like, what is it? And then today
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  Speaker 2: it came out that no, it was somebody from production.
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  Speaker 2: No shit.
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  Speaker 3: No shit.
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  Speaker 2: Of course it's someone from production. I knew right away.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's coming from inside the house. And everyone's
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  Speaker 2: acting all angry. Oh my God. If you're a Bravo
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  Speaker 2: content creator and you repost this leaked audio that they
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  Speaker 2: found on Reddit, oh, they'll never work with you again. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is what they wanted. Okay. It wasn't even that juicy.
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  Speaker 2: We're all going to, the people that are interested are
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  Speaker 2: going to watch the reunion no matter what. And like,
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  Speaker 2: I believe all those reality producers are all over Reddit
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  Speaker 2: because I think anyone can write anything they want and
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  Speaker 2: then they'll write something about one of the people in
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  Speaker 2: the cast and then that person will be like, I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe there's a rumor on the Reddit about so-and-so's
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  Speaker 2: husband cheating. And then now they've got something to work
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  Speaker 2: with on the show. That's my opinion. I think there's
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  Speaker 2: a ton of reality producers that are anonymous people on
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  Speaker 2: Reddit pages of their cast. Okay, that's my thing. All right,
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  Speaker 2: you guys, I'm very excited for you guys to enjoy
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  Speaker 2: this interview. Now, let's go with John Crist. Hello and
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Juicy Scoop. I'm so excited to have a
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  Speaker 2: new guest on Juicy Scoop, a hilarious comedian. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: you're familiar with him. And if you're not, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be in love because he is a hilarious delight.
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  Speaker 2: He's a Southern boy. He's a God-fearing man. And he
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  Speaker 2: can make fun of it all. John Crist, welcome to
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 4: I finally did it. I know I've been six years.
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  Speaker 2: I've been DMing you nothing, nothing raunchy, just DMing you
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  Speaker 2: being like, you're hilarious. Come on my show. I love
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  Speaker 2: your videos, your standup, your take on life.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't get out here, but I come out here
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  Speaker 4: a couple of times a year, but we can never
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  Speaker 4: really make it work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you have a bunch of shows this weekend
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  Speaker 2: out here, which is amazing. I loved the video that
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  Speaker 2: you did about how you got the nicknames of some
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  Speaker 2: of our cities here in Southern California.
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  Speaker 4: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: I have not.
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  Speaker 4: You haven't heard them.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard those exactly. I grew up in the Valley.
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  Speaker 2: And when I grew up in the Valley, people were
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  Speaker 2: very snobby about the Valley. Now they're not anymore because
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  Speaker 2: it's like everything's so expensive. But it used to be.
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  Speaker 4: The Valley's better than it used to be?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the Valley's nice now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like it used to be like, ooh, like when
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  Speaker 2: I went to USC, ooh, you live in the Valley.
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  Speaker 2: It's 10 degrees hotter there. Like how can you handle life?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I don't know. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I had a nice pool and
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  Speaker 2: two parents and like went to Catholic school. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I'm killing the world, but is it as
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  Speaker 2: nice as Newport?
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  Speaker 4: Let me close my eyes and think if somebody said
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  Speaker 4: they're from the Valley, if I would think they were,
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  Speaker 4: I think they were rich.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like now, but that's not, yeah. It wasn't
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  Speaker 4: always like that. No, no.
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  Speaker 2: It was like the second, because Hollywood and Beverly Hills started,
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  Speaker 2: and in the Valley was where porn was.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: Before OnlyFans, and you actually had to go and be
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  Speaker 2: filmed on a VHS tape and go and rent it
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  Speaker 2: at a Blockbuster.
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  Speaker 4: They had like an office.
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  Speaker 2: You'd see porn stars at the coffee shop. You'd see,
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  Speaker 2: they were kind of, like, it was sort of like, oh.
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  Speaker 4: Would that be better or worse? They work at the office.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. A lot of them would get out
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  Speaker 2: of porn to become realtors. And then when the market dropped,
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  Speaker 2: they went back to being in porn and they said
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  Speaker 2: porn was easier than holding an open house. Right. And sadly,
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  Speaker 2: as a former realtor, as an emotional realtor, you get
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  Speaker 2: fucked over harder as a realtor than when you're actually
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  Speaker 2: getting paid to fuck.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. No, the realtor we have, we're looking for
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  Speaker 4: a house now. And it is, it, she knows what
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  Speaker 4: she's doing. But it's probably the same as Jerry Seinfeld
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  Speaker 4: said that with comedy. Yeah. If anybody on the street
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  Speaker 4: wants to, they will introduce you with the same title
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  Speaker 4: that we have.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, yes. Tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Like if you're a doctor, you want to have doctor
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  Speaker 4: in front of your name, it's going to take you
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  Speaker 4: 12 years.
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  Speaker 3: True.
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  Speaker 4: If you want comedian, they will introduce you tonight as
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  Speaker 4: our next comedian. I never thought about that. You get
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  Speaker 4: the title day one.
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  Speaker 2: That is so true.
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  Speaker 4: But that's real estate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Is that everybody can just take that. You're like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: a real estate agent. And the people in Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 4: sell a billion dollars for the real estate. And the
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  Speaker 4: guy in the valley... The only.
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  Speaker 2: Thing easier than becoming a comedian or a realtor is
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  Speaker 2: a podcaster. So everything I'm doing, everything I've done has
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  Speaker 2: been like literally.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone could do. No barrier to entry.
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  Speaker 5: No, no.
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  Speaker 4: I did like what you said on last podcast about
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  Speaker 4: nobody cares about the plight of a comedian. Oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad you agree with that. I feel like we
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  Speaker 4: should all just accept that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody cares.
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  Speaker 2: Because to them, it's still an easier job than roofing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so shut up.
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  Speaker 4: And it is. It is.
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  Speaker 2: So it is. I wouldn't know how to do something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, every comedian movie is just so sad. The comedian
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  Speaker 4: is struggling. Yes. His parents are estranged. His wife, that's
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  Speaker 4: why I didn't like that movie. I didn't even see it,
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  Speaker 4: but the plot, it was like, Why does the comedian
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  Speaker 4: always have to be like a bummer of a guy?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: He's always so downtrodden and like everything else has gone terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, I guess comedy.
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  Speaker 2: And people would say like, oh, my God, you're a comedian.
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  Speaker 2: You're like so happy and normal. I'm like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: actually had parents that said you should become a comedian.
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  Speaker 2: You're really funny. And they all they all saw me.
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  Speaker 4: You and Chris D'Elia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Was that the– I think that– Did.
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  Speaker 2: He say– well, he came in– his dad was in
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  Speaker 2: the business. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I know his parents were in the business.
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  Speaker 2: And also when you live here, it's not– like I
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  Speaker 2: grew up here. So it wasn't like this taboo thing
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  Speaker 2: to pursue the arts. It wasn't as horrible and depressing.
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  Speaker 2: There were– as kids though, you knew. Like there were
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  Speaker 2: six-year-old kids that were like a lot of pallets don't
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  Speaker 2: get picked up. Good luck, sugar.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're going to– You go out on the
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  Speaker 4: street in Nashville and you say you're a comedian? Then
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  Speaker 4: you're special. You're a god.
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  Speaker 2: Because everybody else is a singer?
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  Speaker 4: Because nobody's a comedian. Here, everybody's doing a job like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's like, oh, I'm in the arts. You're like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I work in, you're like, oh. But go into any
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  Speaker 4: other city in America and say you're a comedian. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And then also as a woman,
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  Speaker 2: it was always just like guys were really like, overly
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  Speaker 2: shocked by it you know like that i was one
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  Speaker 2: i couldn't but i always kind of i always liked that.
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  Speaker 4: Like you know what i i i came up you
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  Speaker 4: know where i came up well you.
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  Speaker 2: Probably don't know i know your whole story no you know.
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  Speaker 4: Where i came up in comedy you.
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  Speaker 2: Started doing chill like open night oh i.
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  Speaker 4: Would sign up i came up at comedy works in
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  Speaker 4: denver oh that's the best try to get on your
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  Speaker 4: shows and i never could Because you know how they
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  Speaker 4: have all the comics there.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't– yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't good back then. I wasn't good.
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  Speaker 2: You weren't good enough back then?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: But you were coming– you would come through and your
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  Speaker 4: shows would always be sold out. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I want to get on the head of McDonald's. We'd
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  Speaker 4: have to sign up like every Tuesday. We'd have to
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  Speaker 4: run down there and put our names on.
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  Speaker 2: For the– Oh, my God. This is like the best
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  Speaker 2: story ever.
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  Speaker 4: For the comedians that were coming through the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that makes me feel so special that I was
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  Speaker 2: like a hoot.
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  Speaker 4: I remember that one headshot. You had that one headshot
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  Speaker 4: for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Not the red? In the white?
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  Speaker 4: Let me think. It was– You didn't get new headshots
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  Speaker 4: back like 10 years ago?
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  Speaker 2: I still don't because I just don't care. I'm just like,
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  Speaker 2: when this came up on 10 years, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to rebrand because my parents had their
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  Speaker 2: same real estate. They were residential real estate together and
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  Speaker 2: they had their same photos for so long. And then my,
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  Speaker 2: my mom would be like, Oh, it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Coca-Cola or the Smith brothers or whatever. And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: as long as I still look like my photo that's
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  Speaker 2: on the podcast, I'm like, I'm good. I'll do another
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  Speaker 2: one in a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody like on a, their headshot. And then they walk
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  Speaker 4: out and you go, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I went last show I did in Vegas and.
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  Speaker 4: You look like your head shot.
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  Speaker 2: Was at the MGM Grand. And part of my fun
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  Speaker 2: was we stayed another day and we saw David Copperfield.
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  Speaker 2: And we were in the second row. And we all gasped.
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  Speaker 2: We were like grabbing each other's hands. We're like, is
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  Speaker 2: this an impersonator?
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 2: And why is there a Coke can in his pants?
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  Speaker 2: The dick was enormous. And it was right there.
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  Speaker 4: Because you were in the front row. You're like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't need to be. I thought that about Criss Angel, too.
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  Speaker 2: A magician is like, you can make anything disappear except
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  Speaker 2: your old face. Like Jesus.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody has to tell you, I think. We should do
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  Speaker 4: just a tour. We see everybody. We're in charge. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: you need new headshots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because Brian Regan looks totally different. Have you seen
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  Speaker 4: him lately?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: He's like all different. Yeah, that's important.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I do need to get, who wants to take?
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  Speaker 2: I also like to get everything for free. Who would
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  Speaker 2: like to take my headshot for free?
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  Speaker 4: Don't you think the... Okay, so I got a buddy
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  Speaker 4: on Ozempic. Oh, I love Ozempic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not on it right now, but I've dabbled. I've
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  Speaker 2: taken a shot here or there.
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  Speaker 4: But we should... I'm used to him being 250 pounds.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Him 150 is a different person.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Is he less funny? Is he a funny person?
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: I have to adjust who I'm looking at. We knew
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: him big.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: And it happens so fast.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, it happens so fast that it's like shocking. And
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: for a funny comedian who was heavy, that was their
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: entire act. I always remember when I was starting to
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: do stand-up and I wasn't famous or anything, there was
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: a big, heavy comedian. And he'd come on stage because
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I always felt like I never had that good opening joke.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: You know how someone would go, I look like so-and-so
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: and so-and-so had a baby. And you'd be like, oh, yeah,
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: they did. And it could work forever, right?
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: And then you're good for it. Yeah, yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: But he'd come out and he was heavy and he'd
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: go and he would take the mic stand and he'd go,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: let me move this so you can see me better.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: And the whole place laughed. And I was like, that's
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: such a good one.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I wish I was fat.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: But now if he got skinny, he wouldn't be able
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: to say that joke anymore.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Nate Bargatze is a Nashville comic.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know him.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: He's everywhere.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: He's hilarious.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: He's so good, yeah. He tells a story about he
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: was coming up in New York City, and the comic
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: had a ponytail.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: His whole act was about his ponytail, about how girls
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: would and how he would interact, and he couldn't get it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: He has a ponytail. And then one day he cuts it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: He goes, I don't need this. This is not part
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: of my act. I don't need this ponytail. And so
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: he goes out. Nate tells a story better than me.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: 30 seconds, 45 seconds bombing. And he goes, so I
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: used to have a ponytail. And then he went back
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: into his old act.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: That is so good.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: There should be a, you should, if people doing jokes
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: about being overweight and sometimes they're not overweight enough to
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: be doing fat.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You have to keep it authentic to your life and,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Some bits, you know, can go for a while, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: then other times you have to be like, maybe don't
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: tell the birth story when your kid is 28. You
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, maybe tell a different perspective.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Do you think a comic would not go on Ozempic
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: to keep his act?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I think some people struggle with it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Because there was a guy on SNL, not SNL, Mad
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: TV that was really funny, pre-Ozempic days, like 15 years.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And he did lose weight. And I... I mean, he's
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: probably still doing fine, so I don't want to be rude,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he, you know, I think it
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: did affect his, like, getting jobs and stuff. Yeah. Because
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: it made you special. Now you just look like everybody.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And we don't know what to do with you now. Yeah,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: now you look like everybody else. It's good for your health, but,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure it's, like, fun, you know, to zip
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: up your pants, but at the same time.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: But if you're, it's, you know, it's as fun as
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: standing ovation.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: That's really fun, too.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: And having all those. fun jokes about, you know, not
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: being able to fit in the teacup. You know what
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I mean? That's a whole.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: A heavy person can go to Disneyland. Orlando's even better
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: because it's humid. And do a solid 45. Easy. That
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: is relatable. Everybody gets... Now, if I do go to Orlando,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: what am I going to say? It's not.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Not interested.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Not as good. Yeah. Not as good.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Don't you think all the other comics, like... This podcast
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: has become a behemoth. Look at all the other, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: don't know how to ask this question appropriately. I feel
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: like a lot of your peers are getting crushed out there.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: With female comics from that like 10 years, like the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: era when we were like, none of them are doing anything.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Yeah, it is a little hard because I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: think sometimes– Does that make sense?
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Does that question make sense?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think sometimes people didn't like jump on
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the social media train. Maybe, yeah. And because I did
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and I joined– I got started the podcast over 10
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: years ago. Gosh, dude. I was like on Twitter and
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Instagram when I was doing Chelsea Lately. So it's like
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I was doing all that kind of as a little
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: bit of an older person. But I was like in it,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: doing it. Yeah. I saw this one thing, though. They said,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: if you could suddenly become 21 again today, like on TikTok,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: what would you do? And I wrote, I would start
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: my career even earlier. I'm like, when people say, what
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: would you do if you... I'm like, when I was
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: with the Wayans brothers working on some movie, some of
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the nephews were like, you haven't heard of YouTube? I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: wish I would have gone home that day and created
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: a YouTube channel. I wish I would have been doing
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: the podcast and the YouTube while I was doing Chelsea lately.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know that they would have let me. Probably not.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't know what it was.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they would get mad if we would do like
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: a funny Twitter joke at our home like the night before.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, they want to save it. Because they'd be.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Like, and I kind of got it. They're like, this
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: was a topic and now you've like put it out there.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So you've got to kind of like keep.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: What an era. The Chelsea era was great, man.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to keep that a little bit because
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you're working on the show, which is great because now
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: everybody just does their own thing.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Who came out of there? You and Josh?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Josh– I mean as far as writers, Josh and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and Chris, we were all writers on the show and
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: then– but– and Fortune and then– but also like people
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that were just regulars on it all the time were
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Joe Coy, Natasha Leggero. They were not writers but they
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: were regulars.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: So that was– But that's wild how that made so
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: many careers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: It did because the way we structured the show, like
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I was there from day one, the way we gave
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the audience much more of a personal insight into the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: regulars because it wasn't just doing jokes and it wasn't
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: even like an at midnight where you're just like doing
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: like in when we would come up with how to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: talk about it and then we'd say to the other
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: writers like you know like i would start to say
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: well with my kid if with britney spears i'm like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: i have two boys and da da da da and
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: then people would know oh heather's the mom Joe Coy
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: has one son. Oh yeah. And like all of a sudden.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Everybody had their personalities.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: And then we promoted the day too, like your dates.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But then also, yeah, people got to know you better.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So then when you come on stage, they knew that
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: you were the Southern son of a Baptist.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: You kind of had that angle. Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Like you kind of got your right. So then you could,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: you weren't just telling, you know, pop culture jokes. So
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I always thought that was really important to do. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: always told the people, like, if you can work in,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: background about your life while you're telling the jokes on
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: pop culture, that's going to give you a further way.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Now you know what's taking the place of what's his name?
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: The show's getting canceled, the CBS, Colbert.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Colbert, know what's taking place of it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: You know the answer to this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Comics Unleashed.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, yes.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: It's taking that time slot.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, cool.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Have you been on that?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I have, and they asked me to.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: That guy's like the richest guy in Hollywood.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: They asked me to do it, and the timing just
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: didn't work out.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: But maybe I'll do it now. I don't know. But
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I did it back in the day, and it was good.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Those were good clips to have when you didn't have clips,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: when you were putting together a tape tape.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: before bed. Or two, you know. Nobody's watching. You deserve
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a treat.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: With eight flavours to choose from, you can choose the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: you had.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: To succeed in order to feel loved? He said, I
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: have a work dad. I need a home dad. What
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: It's about what happens next.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, Dar, I'm not going to pull punches. You can
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about you a little bit. I love
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: your background. So you're one of eight. You're number three.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: One of eight, yep.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: And your dad actually was a pastor. Is he still
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: a pastor?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Well, you probably didn't get this deep into the research.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, did he die?
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: No.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, sorry.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, sorry. Wow. He is now the mayor of our city. Oh. Lilburn, Georgia,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: where we grew up.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Happening. Good for him.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, dude.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: He switched over. You know- you try to control people
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: by fixing their hearts.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Now it's with the rules.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: He actually said this to me. He goes, and you're
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: a comedian. He was a pastor and he's the mayor.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: He goes, we, we wake up and we look at
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the world. We don't like it. We don't like the
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: way it's headed. We don't like, and we try to,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: he said, at first I try to change it by
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: changing people's hearts in, in religion. Then I try to
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: change it by legislation. And he goes, as his son,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: he goes, you're kind of doing the same thing. You're
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: just trying to change it with, ideas. Oh, that's beautiful.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I love that. Is that too sincere for
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: this podcast?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: No, I know. I love it. I love the sense
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: of family and, and you know, so your parents are
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: still together.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: They're still together.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Yep. And, um, one of the things I loved is,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: so I'm the youngest of five and from the Valley,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: from the Valley. And so my, we're Catholic and my
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: parents are very like, they were like, they could have
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: been comedians. Honestly, they could have been comedians, but they
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: were in advertising and then real estate. And so they
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: would just tell me out and out that like my
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: sister and I were mistakes. My dad was like, say
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: your mom couldn't read a calendar. And then every time
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I came home from a business trip and she had
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: made a steak and a martini, I was like, Oh fuck,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you're pregnant again. Like, and I was just like, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: then they're like, but you were such a great surprise.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And so then, I was like, oh, okay. And so
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: as the youngest of five, I was this bit, which
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'll let you tell because it was so funny. But
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I remember I never got in trouble. And then one
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: day my dad was like, knock it off or something.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: And my older brother started to do like an 80s
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: slow clap, like, Finally!
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Finally!
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Because they had a completely different dad. And even though
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: there was only 10 years between us, it was just like,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: by the time I came, they would throw me in
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the station wagon and we would go watch Rosemary's Baby, Jaws.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I was like four. They didn't care. Nobody cared. I'd
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: come to school and I'd be like, did you see
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: that made-for-TV movie about the mistress? And these kids would
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: be like, who's letting you watch this? And I'm just like,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like nobody's watching me.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Like no one cares. I think everybody in the comments
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: of this bit is like older siblings get disciplined less
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: than the younger.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: The younger get disciplined less.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: They have no discipline.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Because their parents are tired. That's what everybody said.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Everybody goes they're just like the first one. You know
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: how like.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Especially in L.A. is probably we're going to.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: New mattresses, we got to make sure the sheets are
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: different because the toxins in the sheets, because you heard
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: about that, and the bottle feeding versus the, we're going
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to do like, everybody in the South is big on
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: like cloth diapers now.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Oh God, what a nightmare, never.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: That sounds like, they're like, hey, we're doing it. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: then every parent, you go, oh, you got that stroller? Well,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: did you know that if you got a, you go,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I got to get a new stroller. But then by the,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: especially by kid number eight or five, after, Three.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Now, did you have one of those families, not to
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: compare you to the Duggards, okay, but did you have
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: one of those families where you were assigned?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: They're not doing good.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Love them. I know a couple of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: They're not doing good. But were you like assigned to
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: like raise a little one?
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Which one was yours? Well, we would always have, so
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Emma is my youngest, second to youngest sister. Was she
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: your assignment? That's the one I'm the closest with.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: That we were like, I remember my brother Elias, I
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: was in, I was probably 12 and somebody came over
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: and they were like, well, you shouldn't be babysitting. I'm like, well,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I am. So I don't know what he wanted me
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: to say. I'm in charge.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Because you're a boy or so young.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I think the older ones were gone.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: And they were like, well, John's there.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: But I knew, I don't know. I knew about the
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: house and how they're like, like there was just no,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: it's not like it is now.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I was babysitting at 12. I had people under me.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I was like the pimp of the neighborhood. I was like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I can't work tonight, but I've got a girl.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: We got somebody to come over.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I got a girl. Yeah, yeah. Like, I was so— I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: was 12.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and nobody— now, like, if you have a babysitter now,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: the background checks.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Yeah, all of it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: This is a different time.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: In a better time, I'd say.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: And so in this bit, this stand-up bit, you say
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you go home. It's now your younger sister. Mm-hmm. And
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I loved it. So you just, can you just tell
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the story?
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she gets, I mean, I remember, I remember she
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: gets like, we couldn't, first of all, I come home
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: because I, Lilburn, Georgia, I had a show in Atlanta.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: So I had to stay at my parents' house. I
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: come home. My sister is in the basement watching a
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: movie with her boyfriend with the door locked. I'm just like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: what is going on here? And she's like, my parents
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: are like, John, leave her alone. I can leave her alone.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: We had to watch TV in the kitchen on separate–
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: if I had a girl over separate couches.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: And blankets, no shot. Dude, my parents would turn up
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: the air conditioning so we couldn't– and we were freezing,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: but there were no blankets because they don't want– you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: a teenager is going to be under the blanket, no shot.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: And Christian movies, no cussing. There's actually a technology that's–
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: they've been sued. But it would go through movies and
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: take out all the sex scenes.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: We had– I had a friend.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Something similar.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: That I'd be like, let's go to the movie. Because like, again,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: my parents are working. I would be like, let's take
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the RTD, which was the bus, down to the movie theaters.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Like nine. I'm not kidding.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I believe you. I believe you.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: At nine.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: And then I'd be like, let's go see like Grease
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And it was like, no, that's too– dirty or,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: you know, like, or, you know, the, the tidings or
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the Catholic, whatever. There was like a Catholic review of
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: movies of what could be okay and what not could
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: be okay. And we did not, my family didn't follow
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: that at all.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, they didn't?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: No. And we didn't do confession after, after the, like
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the first confession or we do it through school. And
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: then I'd be like, mom, why aren't you going to confession?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And she'd be like, well, I just think when you're perfect,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: why waste the priest's time? There's just, they've got so
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: many people to see. And I was just like, yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like we'd go to mass every Sunday.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: We'd go to mass every Sunday. We'd say grace. We
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: would talk the Catholic talk. But like there were like,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: then my dad would be like, what are we, cafeteria Catholics?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Which means you like handpick. Like maybe you go on
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: birth control, but you still go to mass.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I'm doing this part, but not that part. Cafeteria Catholic
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: is what that's called?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're picking just a few things.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: We're not doing that. Yeah, yeah. But they can, y'all drink.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Catholics can drink. Yes, we always drink. See, we can't drink.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: At all?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, well, Pentecostal, like in the South, it's just not,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: or like a Baptist, no. But Catholics are always.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Do you drink now?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm sober now. I went to rehab in like 2019,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: but I've been sober since.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: When did you start drinking?
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Dirty.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Once I got popular, I didn't know what to quite do.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah? It was confusing. So what was that like?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: So you really popped when? Like about 10 years ago?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was no-name streamer. comedian struggling you wouldn't put
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: me on your shows and then I pop and then
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Heather's like oh what's up come on my show I'm just.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Joking first of all I never picked it I would
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: always say can I have an opener and even back
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: then I wouldn't look at the people's stuff now I
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: do look now I say I need somebody can I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: have like four people and now it's so easy they'll
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: send me their Instagram and then I'll be like okay
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: this is my first this is my second third and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: fourth choice just because but in the past I didn't
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: do that and I would get some doozies And that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: would like– I remember I had this one guy before
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a show in Aspen. And his whole act is like
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: how he doesn't like screwing women over 40. I'm like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: who do you think is in my audience? And it
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: was just like– and he's like, I'm doing charity work.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And I was like– I'm waiting on the wings going,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I can't believe, Heather, you didn't check out this. So
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: after that, I checked out everybody that– I tried to
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: find a good match. I wouldn't even remember who it was.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: He's not working anymore. He's never turned out to be faint.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: No, obviously, because you wouldn't do something like that. Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: And then as he's introducing me, which he's just met
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: me 10 minutes before he went on stage, he's like,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: this is a really good friend of mine. We've been
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: friends for a long time. And I'm like, oh, my God.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Don't say that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Just dig the hole on stage. Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you said you– When was kind of a
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: moment where you felt like you kind of popped and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: you're like, I can't believe this is everything I dreamed of? Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And like when was that? What was that moment?
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: 2016 probably. I remember I put out a video. It's
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: called Christian Girl Instagram where like Christian, like evangelical Christian,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: they would like take a photo. This was back in
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: the early Instagram days.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: About they had their Bible open. a verse highlighted, maybe
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: have a cup of coffee and a cup of fruit there.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: And like, uh, and it was so ornately organized that
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I go, you probably read the Bible for same thing
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: with cat. You probably read the Bible for two minutes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: It took you 30 to organize this photo. I remember
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: it was like before reels, before any Instagram photo, there
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: was not even carousels. It was just one photo.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And then the caption would be like mornings with the
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Lord or something. And I thought that was so silly
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: that I made a video, uh, making fun of, like satirizing.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: They were like, hey, if you're going to do this,
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: make sure you do this. Make sure you highlight these verses.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Make sure you put these books in the background. Make
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: it look– use these filters. Make it look good to
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: get more likes. And everybody kind of just– Blew up?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They like went viral?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And were you doing a lot of like Christian church-based– funny,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you know, relatable jokes in your act from the beginning
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: or did you kind of fall into that?
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, you always did. I was at the beginning. I
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: was like, yeah, but I would like, but do you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: do you know any like comedians that do churches?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've followed some and I do think it's
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: really great when you can tap into that world and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: also be clean. I tell younger comedians, too, like, listen,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I am kind of dirty, but I didn't start out
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: that way. I like like, you know, start out clean
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: because you'll work so much more if you can work quicker.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I don't do any churches anymore.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, not necessarily churches, but just being a little
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: bit of a cleaner act can also really be good.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Maybe you can make 500 bucks to go to your church.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: country club and do the party for at the beginning,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: at the beginning. Yeah. But I was kind of make,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I always stayed in the club cause I came up
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: in Denver. So I was always staying in the club
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: because I, I felt like the club comics were better.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Actually way better. They were sharper and they were like,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and I was like, well, I got to stay here.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: If I go over that route, it's over for me.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Even though you're getting the offers and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: But I knew that was kind of like.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: A, like you could get a pigeonholed.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I stayed in the club the whole time.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I stayed in the clubs the whole time, and now
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I just do, I don't do any churches anymore.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: I'm still on the team.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You mean you still believe?
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm still on the team, but.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Do you go to church now?
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I go to church, yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: What kind of church do you go to?
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: Not Catholic, I'll tell you that. We have some strong
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: opinions about y'all. I'm just joking. Yeah, yeah. Catholics are
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: hot these days. Catholicism is coming back.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I've been watching that. I've been watching it like the young,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: especially younger people going. And I think it's all great.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I just think anything that gets young people out of
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the house, whatever it is, providing it's not a dangerous
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: cult or terrorism. I'm like, good, go.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Meet some people. Well, the evangelical megachurch is, a lot
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: of people say, is a failed experiment.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: You know, but it's just too, it's too.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Do you think there was just one too many docs
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: exposing that? It's not.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: I think documentaries, I.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Think Netflix docs in the last eight years has turned
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: people against a lot of religions. Like, honestly, it makes
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: you kind of go, God, could I be a preacher? Like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: could I start my own church? Like, who is this person?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: And why, you know, and why should I be like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: going to them and listening to them every Sunday? Like,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know?
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, cults. is based, literally the only way it
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: survives is based on limited information. So in the 80s, 90s,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: you could move out to Salt Lake, have a kind
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: of a commune. They had their own textbooks. They didn't
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: have cell phones. So they've stayed there. So you could
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: tell them whatever you wanted.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Now people go, no, we're not. The whole thing kind
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: of falls apart. The whole idea of a cult does
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: kind of fall apart. It's like kids in, like foreign countries,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: now they see what we're all doing. Right. You can't
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: really control if people have information.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: So true.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: The whole idea of a cult, unless you're cutting off
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: the information.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't, it wouldn't, it's not going to work.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: And I also feel that like, um, I mean, okay. So,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: so in, with the mega churches, okay. Like I was like, Wow.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Like you can drink a coffee. Like you could have
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a star, like drink a coffee during mass. And like in,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: in my Catholic church, there's always a wood.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Bench.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, drinking anything in there. There's no cup holder.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And wood, like uncomfortable chair. And so then I like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you know, someone would have something or I'd go and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my God, I'm in like a movie seat. No,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I'd go to like a Christian church. Someone would invite me.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Well, don't say that because Catholics are Christian.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Right. I always say Christian service. Like when I was
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: saying when I started Juicy Scoop, I was like, spread
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the word of Juicy Scoop as you would Jesus Christ.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Do your Christian service hours. When you go to Catholic school,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you have to do a certain amount of Christian service hours.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And so that's just like– so every time I would
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: ever do something as an adult that I wasn't that
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: thrilled about, I would be like, Heather, just– compartmentalize. Those
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: are your Christian service hours to go to that shitty party.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: You got to do that thing.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Go do that thing and be like, be, be nice.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: And so just to kind of like keep a balance.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: But I remember going, wow, like this chair is really comfortable.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: It's really nice to have a cup of coffee. The
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: music is better. This guy's pretty cute. I like his
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: tight jeans. This is like kind of fun.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like more commercial.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But then I would have the Catholic guilt of like, no, Heather,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you need to go To the boring mass where the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: guy's accent is so strong you don't understand what he's saying.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: The acoustics are horrible.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Can't hear.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Can't hear. You don't know what's going on. Then you
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: need to feel guilty because you didn't listen.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: But at least you got in there so that when
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you have that audition on Thursday, God will bless you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Because you were there.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Because I was there.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to leave Catholic church. You leave with
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: some guilt.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Totally.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not in the megachurches. You leave feeling great. They
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: give you a cookie. You're– You feel good when you leave.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: But I think I went to Catholic Church like a
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: month ago because I had never been.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Who took you?
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: My buddy Matt Fradd. Wait.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait. I have that photo. Attending Catholic Church for
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the first time. Okay. Tell me about that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Well, he has a big podcast. He's like a famous Catholic.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't even know there was.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Did he get to go to the Pope?
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: He's doing a pod with him, I think.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: With the Pope? Yeah. But did he get to go
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: with Jim Gaffigan to the Pope?
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: No, he's not a comedian. He's not a comedian.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Do you know how annoyed I was when I saw
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the people they invited? I was like, hello.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't like that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hello. Like I did 12 years of Catholic
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: school paid for Catholic.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: School for all my kids. Jim was there. Cause he's Catholic.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. But I mean, he deserves to be there,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: but some of the other ones that were there were
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: not even Catholic.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: And I was like, again, Just like the country club.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Just like– Yeah, they're overlooking Heather.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: They're overlooking me.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I've been– I had the guilt since day one.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been promoting.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: They had some Jews in there. I go, you guys
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: are against each other.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I would– we're never against each other. No, Catholic-Jewish
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: dialogue was like a class I took because it was
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: so similar and there was such a thing. But I
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: was in writer's– I was in writer's rooms. I'd done
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: podcasts where like my faith was challenged. Like somebody was like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: how do you believe what is wrong with you? And
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: then I would say why. And then they would, then
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the podcast host would get so much hate for how
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: he treated me that then I'd be like, Hey, can
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I be on your show again? And he was like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Hell no. It's too much. It was too much. No,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I did nothing wrong. You were the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: one that was mean to me.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: You cornered me.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then people– so tell me about what you
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: thought when you went.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Well, a Catholic church, first of all, the first thing
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I said was there's no lobby. If you listen– you
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: go in and you're in.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: You open the door from the sidewalk and you're in.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I can smell it. I can smell it right now.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I can smell the Catholic church.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you go in.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: There's a little greet team, welcome center, kind of like
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: the moms gossiping in the front lobby. Not Catholic church.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: They wasted no money. And also, you know what? Catholics
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: don't send the kids to a different– they're in. No.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You go through the whole– you have to sit and
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: hear the crying and you have to– Be pinched and
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you have to.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: That blew my mind.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: No, it's.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: We have, the kids go off to their own section.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Like color and stuff. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: They're coloring books and they learn about Jonah and the
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: whale and stuff like that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fun.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: Not Catholics. But I think what has happened is why
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: Catholicism is hot is because it went so far the
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: other way.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: That it's like, all right, let's, like when you have
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: a son, like you had to have taught him something.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: So you go, well, hey, don't cuss.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Right. Why?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Or don't.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: And I also just cussed like three times.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Or don't. When you're little.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Or when other people are. Don't cuss. I have an infant.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Don't cuss. Well, why?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Or don't steal.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: It has to.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Come from something.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: You have to. Every parent has to give something.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Some semblance of why the world is. Why would we.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't really realize like how lucky I was to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: be raised with something until I got to college. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: my friend goes. And we're all just talking about there
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: was certain girls in my sorority that had gone to
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: other all-girl Catholic high schools. And my one friend goes,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: have you ever noticed that anyone you meet that went
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: to an all-girl Catholic high school, nobody regrets it? Nobody says,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I wish I didn't go. And I thought, wow, that's interesting.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And then this one friend of mine later on goes,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I wish I knew the stories.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: She goes, I don't know the stories you're talking about
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: because she wasn't raised as anything. And then I was like, oh, wow.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I am better than people.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: But I just thought, you know, I never thought it
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: made sense when someone said it. We're not going to
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: raise our kid as anything because they should make their
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: own choice. Well, they're not going to seek it out.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: You could teach it to them and then you should
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: be understanding if it's not their thing or if they
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: take a break. They still learn the basics of doing
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: unto others. And that's all I cared about because I
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, I'm.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Not super- Well, there's a second part of that, doing
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: to others. You just said the beginning.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: As you'd have them doing.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think everybody, I think in,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I would say that when it becomes like, when people
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: have religious trauma or something, it's because they weren't allowed
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: to ask questions.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: So you go, hey, we're going to go to Catholic church. Why? Well,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: we believe that a God created the universe. We do
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: believe that Not lying, not murder. We don't believe in that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: It's the general worldview of what we believe in life.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: And where people go astray is that you have to go,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: don't ask questions.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: This is what we're doing. And you go, why are
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: they wearing those outfits? And then why do we have
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: to do the confession? Nobody ever explained it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: And that's how people get off track, I think.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: And now there's, yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And when... And entering– becoming a bigger star and doing
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Hollywood stuff. Yeah. Now you had this success because you
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: were one of the few commercial comedians that also could
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: talk with knowledge about this very relatable thing of being
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: raised in the church.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Did you ever– did it ever get weird in that
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Hollywood is– I mean I was in writers' rooms where
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: they would say, how could you send your kids to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: a Catholic school? Are they getting molested today? And joke
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: with me. And recently I talked to a writer that
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: used to be on Chelsea with me and I was like, oh,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: how are your kids? And he told me– now he
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: married a girl who was raised Catholic. And I go, oh,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: where is your son going to go to school? And
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: he goes, oh, we're hoping to send him to Loyola.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: which is a really great school here, and it's all boys.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: And I go, oh, really? And you don't feel bad
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: that you, like, tormented me for eight years?
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Well, well, well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And then he's like, and he paused, and he was like, no,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: and kind of laughed, and I was like, That's all
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you need.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: That's all you need.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Because I was like, yeah, it was like
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: actually hard to be a believer in Hollywood and not be.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And especially with comedy, which is so there's so many
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: comedians that are just cynical about it. And like they
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: just don't understand how you can have faith, you know, something.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Some other like I remember this. I was like,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to tell him your name. I'm not
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: going to tell the name because you probably know him.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: But I was like kind of like me too by
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: like a like a male comedian.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: He said you hit on him?
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: No, he me too'd me. Oh, OK.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, saying saying that you were.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: He was very famous.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: And I I was young comic.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: And he and I go in essence kind of like.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I want to be successful. I want to be famous.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I want to be popular. I want to be but not.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: At the extent of my.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: So he was hitting on you. Romantically hitting on you.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Come to my room. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: That was confusing.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: No, but I understand what you mean.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: You're like, who me? Oh, okay.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: And kind of laying it out as like you got it.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: You understood. At first you didn't. And then I was like, oh, shit.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, paying for things and coming to my room.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: And I was a young comic and I was so hungry.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: And adorable, I'm sure.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you. You're so good looking.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: But I can imagine.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: But you go, well, I'm not doing that. Well, you're like, why?
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Don't you want to be a comedian? But I go, yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: but my parents, I was raised with something. You know
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I go, I'm not doing that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: When those type of things.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, because as a woman, it happened to me too.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And I remember thinking, but my parents live in Woodland Hills. I,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be homeless if I don't do
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: this thing. I can go to their house. They're going
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: to still support me. They're going to, you know, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: can work in real estate. I'm not, I didn't come
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: off a bus with nobody in Hollywood. I actually have
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: a whole support system.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: It's like religion out of it. Just like parents that
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: were cared.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that, you know, and I, and I'm not
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: embarrassed to go home. I'm not embarrassed to say, It's
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: taken me this many years and I still haven't made
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: a dollar like I wasn't because I was just– no,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I know that I'm being entertaining. Even if I'm not
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: on a sitcom and even if I'm not making money,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I'm good at what I do.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: It just has to take time. Do you ever do
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: anything like in auditions like sexually that you said you
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: wouldn't do or no?
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: No, but I did have this one. I met this
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: guy at a party, and he was an agent at
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: a major agency. And he got my number, and I,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: of course, needed an agent. And I had this VHS
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: tape with all my little bits. And I did this
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: one-woman show of all my characters from the Groundlings and everything.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And so he's like, yeah, come over, and I bring
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: the tape.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: To come over where?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: To the agent, like to the Hollywood, like I go up,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: you know, the secretary brings me in. I'm sitting there
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, so like, you know, I
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: need an agent. And like, here's my here's all my
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: funny characters and everything. And he's like, come sit over here.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: And it was a couch and he wasn't an old guy.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't like completely creeped. But then, you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: he's like making moves on me and stuff.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: And crazy.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, OK, then I leave.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: But I still think he might represent me.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: And then he, like, calls me one night for, like,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: a booty call. And I'm like, can I just get–
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: because I, of course, dropped him off six tapes because
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's got to give it to everybody.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: He wants me to come back and give him the
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: new tape.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the next Lisa Kudrow. Like, come on, you know, like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: get me on a sitcom. And so then I'm like,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I really need those tapes back because each tape costs, like, $ 10,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Come back to the office. I'll give you the tapes back.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: You know, you try. So when you told the guy, like, no. Yeah.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Was it, did he then just drop you like a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: hot potato and was sort of embarrassed of the rejection or?
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: No.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: I just said– and I just said I'm just not–
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to come to your room because we
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: would tour.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Like he would bring me on tour.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: So you're the opener or feature. Yeah.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: But like– Which is a huge opportunity.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: A huge, huge. I opened for Chelsea, and that was very,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: very good for me. It also made sense since I
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: was on the show as well. But that is huge
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: for the stage time, to get in front of all
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: those people.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: And looking back now, you're like, I was not skilled enough.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't have been. And then you look back on
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: it now, you go, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: I thought this was on merit. They're like, no, dude.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: No, you look like someone we could turn.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You look vulnerable. It's not funny. It's not funny.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: But it is.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Ego. And I still went on the road for a while.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: And I do credit him. That's the thing. It's the
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: tricky part about this podcast because some of these people
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: are very very brilliant and talented would do anything for
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: you and they also have the darkest demons so all
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: the people that we on the pod you go what
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: do we make of them and you want to put
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: them here or here yeah like do we like this
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: guy now yeah or now this guy's out or taylor
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: frankie paul or whoever we're talking about you're like no
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: x and you're like well that if i you know
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: they could the people can be both that's what's tricky
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Is this guy helped my career and would literally do
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: anything for me but also had like the darkest– is
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: sincerely would do anything for me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Right. And also– I think it's different like with the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I brought her up.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: No, no. But I'm just saying I think it's kind
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: of different when it's like a reality star because you
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: are entertaining to watch but you are not an entertainer.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: You are not– you're not writing music. You're not singing.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: You're not– you're not a comedian. You're not a writer. Right.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: You're just a, you got to stay in the news.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: But I still also think that she can absolutely come back.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Cause I think people forgive. I think they're less forgiving.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Kanye West came back.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're less forgiving of women. And I
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: think women are harsher on women. Um, but I think,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: and then I think, you know, but I think for,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I think even more and more, the cancellation is shorter
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: periods of time. It's shorter and shorter and shorter.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: But, um, Yeah, it goes less and less. Yeah.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: When the other girl, the other girl in the is
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: doing great on Broadway. Chicago.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She got on the show and was like a
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: dancer to begin with.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: And she was like, I'm going to do this. And yeah,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I love this one. When you talk to the audience
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: about you got baptized or you Catholic, the baptism thing
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: is so interesting, too, because one thing I was going
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: to say about Christians is.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: That I like– I can't wait for this generalization.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I like to get invited to parties. I like to
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: feel wanted.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: And I liked how in college and everything, I must
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: have been someone that they felt that they could get– Turn. Turn.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: They could turn you.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Because I did like talking about Jesus and stuff.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: You were generally interested.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But then– and then they'd be like, are you saved?
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yes. Like I've always believed. So
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: how am I not– And then I was like, oh,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: you know, like one time this cute guy was an essay.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: He kept inviting me to go to this thing. And
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I just thought, oh, he's so cute and he likes me.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: And then I realized, oh, it was the Bible study,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: you know, and it was a Bible study. Oh, she's
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: going to want to come to the Bible study. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: so the baptism thing, you know, we all get baptized
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: when you're young. Yeah. And then infant baptism. Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: So you were that guy's service hours.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: You're like, wait, I'm the service. He's like, yeah, there's
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: the service hours. I'm going to dinner with Heather for
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: the service hours.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: My son said when he was at ASU, these guys
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: called and was like, hey, do you want to play whatever,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: flag football or something?
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: The Arizona State?
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: I probably know who that ministry is.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: So then he was like, yeah. He was excited that
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: people were like.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: It's the bait and switch.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: And then eventually it was like, hey, we're all going
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: to go to the Bible study after. Why don't you come?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: And he was like, no. He was like, I went
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: through Catholic school. I don't need to now go to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: a Bible study while I'm in college.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Also, now that... Oh, I thought we were buds.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would– I know.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: It's like– it's up there with like joining an MLM,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: like the lady being like, hey, girl.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: Or the guy bringing you the– he'd bring me the tapes.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Like, oh, oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I said– I've always
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: said this about this whole– like everything in the podcast,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: everything in this podcast, it comes down to gold, glory,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: or girls. The three motivations for any kind of anything.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: It's gold, glory, or girls, meaning money, women, or power.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Like, why did they, you know, you do break down
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: everything and you go, it's one of those three.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: It'll always be one of those three at the end
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: of the day.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: For men, I guess, because I'm not doing it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. I guess I, yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: But it's always, why are they, at the very end, oh, well,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: they want to get, be tagged on Instagram so they can, oh,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: so it's a, Right. It's always one of those three,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: which has been around since the dawn of time.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And it's even in this business when, you know,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I've been on the receiving end of thinking that this
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: person was my friend that I brought on the road
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: and helped and did all the things with and tagged
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: them a million times. And then they were becoming resentful
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: behind my back. It wasn't enough.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It wasn't enough.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my God, like, why wouldn't
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: you just tell me it wasn't enough? Or, you know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: or I'm, you know, why did you, why did you
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: have to do this deceptive mean thing that like fucked
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: me up? Because like, I'm very fortunate in that I've
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: been married for 25 years and we've never had a
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: cheating on each other. But when, when it happened with
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: friends it's really you're like oh my god like the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: two of you were like going around the court like.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: What against me yeah like i was just like.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: This is this is what it must feel like when
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: someone like has the hairs in the back of their
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: neck and they're suspicious of their man or their daughter
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: their girlfriend and then they find it later and they're
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: like i wasn't crazy oh you.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Know what i mean like i wasn't in i was
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: in rehab in 2019 uh for alcohol and they they
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: there's it was all men in there And they said that,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody's at different stages of, uh, their marriage.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: And he said that women, that every, you know, that
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: you're in there for four weeks and then your wife's
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: going to come and you have like, kind of like
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: a heart to heart. And he said, you know, all
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: the women were so relieved because they were like, okay,
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: thank God. I thought I was going crazy. Like, like
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: they would tell stories like, uh, I come home in
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: the guest room and I find a condom in the
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: guest room. And he was like, the husband is like,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: the landscaper must've come in. And you're like, okay, you don't,
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: you go, okay. And then, and then you finally, you
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: finally realized this guy is cheating or is it? And
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: then you go, thank God.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Because I thought I was going insane.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: And you're finally like, when you finally learn, Yeah. Oh,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: it's very– it's going to be a disaster to kind
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: of work through it.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: But at least they're like, shoot, at least– Yeah, the
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: gaslighting of.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, like of that.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: It was very helpful, they said. It was all very helpful.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So in your church, do people get baptized like
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: where they wear the outfits and go in a pool
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: and stuff?
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: That's a wild way to ask that question.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Well, they just wear your regular clothes.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: You just wear it. Hopefully dark, though. You don't wear
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: something white. But we got baptisms at our church coming
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: up on Sunday.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: It's not like a wet t-shirt.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: No.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I thought they were supposed to wear like white flowy.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's in like a different denomination where they put
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: on a robe and then they full immersion into the water.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: We don't. Yeah. We do... We do like very– like
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: you do it in a horse trough at a barn
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: or in a river or somebody's pool.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: But I mean essentially people could be baptized like 10 times.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: It's a very– yeah.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: You could be baptized a million different times in church
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: or say I need to be re-baptized.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, but Catholic baptism is only once.
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: You get your one.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're good to go.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: It's like a punch card of all the– Well, let's
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: not say it like that. Well, I'm just saying you get.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Your check off of that. I'm just kidding.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: You have to be baptized.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be baptized. And then confirmation is
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: kind of like– That's like getting saved. No. So it
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: goes baptism, then confession, then confirmation, which is sort of
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: you can decide it. Like it just basically say I
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: confirm now that I'm a young teenager that I want.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: You're old enough.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Then it's like marriage.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Baptism was non-consensual.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Then it's like, yeah. And then vow, like if
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: you're going to become like a priest or a nun
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And then that's the thing. And then last rites.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: That's when you die.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's only if you have the option to
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: like call the priest.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: My friend is getting married to a Catholic guy and
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: she converted.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: At like 25.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: So how does that work? She got to go through
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: a class or something?
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she goes through a class.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: If I wanted to become Catholic today, what would I do?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: You'd go through like a class. It'd probably be like
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Tuesday and Wednesday nights or whatever.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: For how long?
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I think they can do it. I mean, who knows
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: now if there's like an online element, but like definitely
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the church online degree. Yeah. And I, I think it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: really beautiful when like an adult decides to do that. Like,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I think it's so cool. Um, my husband had some
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: familiarity with Catholicism cause he had like a grandmother who was,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: but he wasn't raised in, he didn't go to school.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: And then not until we were getting married.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: But once we were getting married, when they said the
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Our Father, I couldn't believe he knew it. I was like,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: how do you know this? Like, how do you just
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: like came back to him from the grandma? But no,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: just one of you has to be Catholic. And the
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: other one has to say, if we have if we
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: have kids, we will raise them Catholic. So you don't
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: have to convert if you don't want to.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: You just have to say I'm on the team.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Yes. So my sister married a Jewish man, Goldstein, and
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: he just said the kids can be raised Catholic and
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: they were. And that's that.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: So he didn't convert.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: He never converted. He could have, but he never did.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: And it was fine.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: And it was fine.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I do think it's nice if you're both
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: are like into it, but as long as someone's not
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: like making you not go or something, you know what
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like, yeah. And they're not like fighting about the,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: you know, so.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Isn't it marriage? I'm, I'm, I'm getting married in October.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: How'd you meet your fiance?
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: On Instagram.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: She slid in or you slid in?
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: I made a, I made a. Could have been me.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: I've been sliding your DMs for years.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: 2021.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: In.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: I made a, I made a spoof video about the news.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: Making fun of the news about how news anchors like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: in the snow.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: They're like, why am I out here? You can see
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: it snowing. Why do I need to be?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: It was a fake. It was back in 20, I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: don't know, six, 2020 or something like that. And she
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: does that for a living. She's a news anchor. She
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: works for NBC. And somebody sent her my video. They're like,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: look at this guy making fun of news anchors. Somebody
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: sent me a video of her doing it sincerely. And
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: I thought she was cute, and I slid into her DMs.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: See, I feel that's very like the universe working in
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: God in your favor. Like that's just kind of.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: And I was in rehab. This is what's wild about
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: my whole story, that I was in like– burned my
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: life to the ground. I was in rehab, and I–
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: there was no– They would like let us watch TV
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: on like the weekends for like three hours. And we
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: were watching the local news because there was no Netflix
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: or there was nothing.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: And I was watching that. We watched the local news
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: and I saw a news anchor like doing that. And
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, when I get out of rehab, I'm
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: going to make a joke about that. If you don't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: believe in God.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I believe, I mean, I love all that stuff.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: I know, dude, I know.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: And as I get older, I feel like it's, I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's just me, I don't know if
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: it's the universe or my, whatever. But it happens so
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: much more now. Like, I'll literally think of somebody that
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: I hadn't talked to in a while and I'll get
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: a text from them within an hour. Like, within an hour.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, What is that? There's just so
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: many things. And like, my parents are both passed, so
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: there'll be little things like, I'll tell a story about
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: my dad with a bunch of girlfriends and we're about
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: to go to the spa. And then they're like, Heather,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: you know, it's your turn to go to the spa.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Here's the key to your, to your locker. And my
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: dad's sports number was 34 and it's 34.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Like just, just like, just like, like just all those
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: kinds of like signs. And I'm like, just think it's amazing.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: And then, and throughout life of like, knowing like whether
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: you work like manifestation or whatever even if you're not
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: like really working it though you'll look back and you're
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: like i thought of that or i saw that or
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: i said one day that'll be me and now it's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: me and like i love all that i think it's so.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Powerful yeah i do and you look at the it's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: a dark and you look at the universe and you
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: go my word yeah it's you just go i'm not
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: sure the cat they wear weird hats and the thing
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: with the chanting i'm not sure about all that yeah
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: but There's got to be something. I think that's the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: start of it. Or my– I had a loved one
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: pass away or a child being born.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Do you think you ever missed out on opportunities in
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: the business because they are prejudiced about the fact that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: you are someone of faith?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: It's– I don't know if this is a– I just
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: think it's a crutch to people to blame stuff. It's
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: like a lot of times people are like, oh, it's
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: because I'm Democrat that the Republican, I go, it's not
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: good enough.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: You know, like, oh, it's because I'm Christian that I go,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: it's not that good also. Oh, it's because I'm a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: lesbian or it's because I'm black. I go, people don't,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: they want to make money.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: They don't care about if someone's anything.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: And I always say there's so many entities. Can you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: be blackballed for one particular show because someone hates you
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: and is the person who's the talent booker? Yes. Sure. Yes.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: But there's other shows you could get on too. So
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, yes, sometimes that'll happen and you'll never know why.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: And it's not with the victim.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you'll never know why.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: It's a nice– there's a comic in our scene that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: is– one is a female. She's like, it's because I'm female.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: I go, the GM of the club is a female.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Or it's because I'm black. I go, I assure you,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: it is not. Right.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: And I mean, it's never been a better time to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: not be a white straight male. And in my day, like, yes,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: there would be 10 people on the bill at like
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: the LA Improv. And it would be eight straight guys,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: one black guy, one woman. And unless we want, if
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: we wanted more than one woman, we would put our
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: own show together.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: And I feel like it all did work out and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: it was, but it was also like, you know, there
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: was TV shows, you know, so you always were like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: trying to get a sitcom, right? There wasn't podcasts and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Instagram and reels. And I realized like the executives that
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: were choosing would be a certain type of guy. And
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: then they would really, they'd see everybody perform and they
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: would gravitate towards the guy that lived their childhood. So
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: they'd be like, that's the funniest guy because comedy is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: subjective and you relate to who you relate to. So
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: my stuff about being Catholic and sorority girl and valley girl,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: there was no executives that were like, oh my God,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I grew up in Woodland Hills and went to USC
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: and I know exactly who this chick is. Now there's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: such a variety and there's such a way to find
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: your own audience without the gatekeeping of only having television stations.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: So that's what I think is so great about today.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: If you go to Zany's, like I live right next
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: to Zany's in Nashville. There's two rooms now. There's probably
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: five shows a day. There's probably 20-plus shows a week.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: And it's like when I was coming up, you would
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: just go to the comedy club. You wouldn't look. There
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: was no YouTube. There was no– you wouldn't look. It
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: had to be Jerry Seinfeld, Jay Leno for everyone. It
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: had to be for everyone. Now there's like black, Jewish,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: gay comics. And if you don't get it, you're like,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know this guy's podcast. I have no idea
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: who this is. And the lines wrapped around the block twice.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: For that.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they found there's like.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: A comic that's from Wisconsin and he just does Wisconsin.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: And everybody that like used to live in Wisconsin are like,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: we love this guy.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: That's what I think is so great because there was
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: exactly what I'm saying.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: It was like, there's no excuse now.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you know, and it's it's so I think
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: that's really great going back because you brought it up
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: and that you went through this hard time. I, you know,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: I wasn't going to bring it up because you, but
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: since you brought up, I want to say, I really
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: think it's great how you dealt with that and you
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: took that chunk of time. I think if more people
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: that fall into a hard moment, just put their phone down,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: maybe don't perform for six months and just take that time.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think enough people take the time that's necessary.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: And then when you come back, you can come back.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: You can come back and be stronger than ever. But
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I think so many times people are like, well, I,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: you know, and that must've been like shocking to have
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: to turn stuff down and cancel your tour and put
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: your book on hold and all of that.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, you did do some research.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: But I do think, well, I remember when it was
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: happening too. And I remember thinking that you were handling
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: it right. And I think in this day and age,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: like that's a lesson to learn. Like it doesn't mean
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: it's over. It just means like, take a breath. I mean,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you know, and just like get, Get good, you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: with yourself.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the only reason we're probably talking
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: about this is because you did go around my publicist,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: that you did DM me directly. Like, if you would
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: have talked to them, they would have been like, that's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: so funny, dude.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: If you want something cut out, this is not live either.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: I like to talk about it. They don't want me
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: to talk about it. I like to talk about it
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: I think it's part of my story. It's awesome. It
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: was 2019, and I had a Netflix special coming out.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: in that fall and I was like on the Tonight
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: Show and I had a book deal and I was
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: like performing in churches but I was also like getting
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: drunk like and like doing all kind of behavior that
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: was not you can't do that it's like it's kind
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: of like if you remove the part of the religion
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: that is tough is the shame involved in it but
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: if it's kind of like well these are the rules
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: you can't wear jeans on Friday I wore jeans on
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: Friday and I got fired.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, from doing the church kick?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But they were like, you can't. You can't. There's
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: a kind of unspoken rule that if you're performing in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: church that you probably are behaving as a Christian.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Got it. And I wasn't.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: So that all kind of– there was whispers on Twitter
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: and that stuff kind of came out. But it was
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: also like every– all of my comedian buddies– Or like
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: they would read that article about me. They're like, this
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: sounds like a regular Tuesday.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: So when I read it, you know, and it was
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: just that like you're flirting with women that might have–
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I'd be married or something and they were flirting with you.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: I mean in the scheme– Yeah, yeah, That's what everybody said.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: That's what everybody said.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: From Woody Allen to Louis C.K. to– who was the other?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: Aziz.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Aziz. Aziz who just kind of had what I would
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: refer to as bad bedside manner. Yeah. Act like you're
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: a little more into her when you're calling the Uber.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Just act a little more into her.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: She's going to get her feelings hurt by that.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: But like, yeah. And then it was like.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: You. I was pretty down, pretty far down on the list.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: You. But that's what was so honestly like noble about it.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Like that you were like, no, this was wrong. And
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: I am this person. And that is why it's wrong.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm going to go make myself right.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: And you proactively ended this stuff for yourself.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Which is like amazing.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: I would probably say I look back on that. So
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: it was a lot of– it was 2019, which is
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: a very– in terms– remember people were like just– executives
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: were like, I slept with a girl in college. I'm quitting.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: People were like proactively quitting their jobs. Remember that?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: It was so scary. It was so– and like the
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Harvey Weinstein. It was so scary.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Like 17 to like 21 was like– Terrifying.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: And then– It was a lot of like, it was so,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: with the religion aspect of it, it like adds a
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: whole nother level of like, I don't know, I guess
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: I was so scared. If you look back on it,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: maybe I should have been like, yeah, I'm not perfect.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: And I could have just gone touring. But again, I
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: got sober because of that.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was like everything falls in the way
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to, which is also like believing in faith.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: And I hate to say that, and.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: I'm getting married in October. Like I thought the way
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: I was going would have no shot to be in
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: a healthy relationship or marriage. I hate to say that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: cancellation– 100%.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: No, I mean– It was kind of good. It saved
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: my life. Yeah, absolutely. And I hate to say that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: because I don't want people to be calling people out
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: publicly– I don't think that's the way forward.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I remember reading your thing and I was like, wow,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: this is like, it's not like you actually were a pastor.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Of a church with a wife.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: And three kids and banishing people that, you know, it
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: was just that you were part of that world. And
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: I thought, wow, that is real. That shows that he
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: actually does walk the walk because he like wants to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: do better.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: That's wild to hear that from you because I didn't cry. No,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't think that. It's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: wild to hear. I mean, yeah, it was a very. I'm, like, sorry.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not a normal comedian podcaster. I actually, like, talk
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: about shit like this. So this is probably, like, not
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: what you were expecting today.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: It was so, like, a lot of people like you or, like,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: reached out to me. I was getting crushed on the internet, obviously,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: on Twitter, but there were so many people that were like,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: that's probably how you heard of me.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: No, I had knew about you before, because I'd seen
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: your stuff, and I thought it was really funny, and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I loved, like, the pastor and the jet, the pastor
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: that has a jet, all that kind of stuff. So, like,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it was really funny, and then I just was, like,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: reading it, and I kept trying to find, like, the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: bad part.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: And I was kind of reading for some key words.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: What is going to happen? And then I was like,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Like, and so then to see, then
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: you like come back and find you and you're doing
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: your funny stuff again. And I just thought, this is
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be. Like, this is what it's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: supposed to be. Your life shouldn't be an entertainment should
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: be this, you know, providing, you know, you're not, You know,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: violating women, children, men and, you.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: Know, murdering people.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: But like things that I'm just like, wow, like that
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: was so just important to see. And when you think
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: about your life now and how you found. The love
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: of your life and every I just think it's like
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: such a beautiful story because it's it's true. It's like
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: it's very much, you know, I believe in like everything
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: happens for a reason. And I believe in life's rejection
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: is God's protection. And sometimes you don't realize that you
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: spend three years laying in bed going, I regret this.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I regret this. I regret this. And then all of
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: a sudden you're like, well. on the small level if
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't do that I wouldn't have had this hilarious
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: bit if I didn't do this I wouldn't have you
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: know ended up here I wouldn't have met and then
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: you're like oh my god I wouldn't I mean even
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: for me with this podcast I had career things that
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: I regret it like for a long time. And then
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: one day I woke up and I'm like, the show
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be here if I hadn't fucked up over here
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: and then missed a bunch of opportunities because of this
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: fuck up. And I could only work on this. And
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: now thank God I have this and I have no
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: envy to be over here.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: That's what I said at the beginning.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: And if you didn't have this pot, like imagine going
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: into those like audition rooms with like, yeah, And you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: can say whatever you want and have whatever conversations you want.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: You go, Oh, thank God. Like I can, anybody can
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: go back and if they don't know the article that I,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: that you can go back and look at it. I
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: got no shame about it. It doesn't, you know, it
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't hold any kind of shame for me. And I've,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: I'm a, it's, it's just wild. It's truly wild. Cause
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: if people don't believe in God or like that, there
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: is some kind of, plan for you. I mean, I
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: remember being so mad at God, like a journal that
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: all we had was like journals and it would just write,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: this is a, this is a horrible plan. But then
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: you come kind of come through it. What's, what's truly
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: wild is it was fall of 2019. So I had
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: a music manager. He was not a comedian manager. I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: was about to release the Netflix special and then go
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: on a stadium tour, not a stadium tour, sorry, an
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: arena tour.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: I had no material. Because I'd been working for 10
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: years for my first Netflix special, and he didn't know
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: that you got to kind of go.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't just do the exact Netflix special that
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: everybody just saw.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because in music, you do. You do the album,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: and then you go tour it. And then I was like.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. What a panic.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: And then it got canceled, and then COVID happened. So
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: everything got canceled.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: This is kind of perfect.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, too.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: And now I have a new show that we're working
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: on that we have been more successful by far than
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: we ever would. That arena tour could have been the end.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Right, because you could have bombed or disappointed. No, I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: would have bombed.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: And I had no material.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you go.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, even if you're like an atheist or you go, hey,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: that's fine. I'm not going to try to press it
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: on you, but there's some things that happen in life
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: that are too like, what?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: That is just, yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: That is too much to, I mean, when you're in treatment,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: I never, I was so, everybody was so sad. that's
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: like the best comedy came from. Does it always sound.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Like your team, you mean, and your family or what?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: No, the, everybody just wanted me to get help, the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: people in there, because everybody burned their lives to the ground.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: And I remember one guy goes, my buddy Warren, we
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: were all in there together. He had blown his life up.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: We'd all blown our lives up. And he, you know,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: I was starting to kind of feel better, start to
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: get a little like, oh, maybe I can, I don't
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: know about to ever do comedy again, but I'll be
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: able to go to the golf course and, I was like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: am I getting sued? Do I have any money? And
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: they were like, yeah, it's not an ideal situation, but
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: you're going to be fine. And I started to kind
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: of have some pep in my step, you know. And
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: he puts his arm around me one day. We're on
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: a walk. We're on a hike. And he goes, hey,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: it looks like you're doing a lot better here and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: you make a lot of progress. I just want to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: let you know, don't take suicide off the table just yet.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: You know, like we would die. We were so, like
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: humor was so. That's the most morbid thing I've ever heard,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: but we've died. The comedy was so fresh and so painful.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: The world was so painful that it was like comedy.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: I fell in love with comedy all over again and
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: all the things that happened in the world, by the way,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: since then.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: And you have to be in a mindset to be creative.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: You can still kind of chug along, but then when
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: you're in a great place mental state because it's like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: you have to go on stage whether you know something
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: horrible just happened or you got a text or something
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: that you got to go on you got to be
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: like hello how you.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: Doing tonight yeah introduce you.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: And get in the moment and still enjoy talking to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: the people and telling stories and all that you can't
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: just like blow it off because you need a mental
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: health day it's like not you can't do it.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sure people message you all the time just because
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: of how big this podcast is you're like hey i've
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: been going through a tough time in my life and
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: your pod is It provides me an escape. I feel
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: like I'm part of this community. I feel like you are, like,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: doing it. And you could hear directly from those people.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love it. And I still have that, like,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: you know, guilt where, like, on occasion there was, like,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: a mistake where, like, I had some work for me.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: They put up the wrong podcast. Like, they put Tuesday's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: podcast again on Thursday.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: And, of course, it goes up at, like, 1 a.m.,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: you know, or midnight on the East Coast. So I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: wake up on the West Coast to, like, all these—
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: messages of just people like hi you know and I
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: literally thought about the people that mentally really depend on
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: waking up on their commute whatever and it wasn't what
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: they want and I was just like.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: Because I've been so consistent that they like depend on
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: it so much. And it's like because they're so great,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: And it's not, by the way, no one's saying that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: to the lady that's in the Febreze commercial.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Or whatever, whatever anyone else is doing. Not that other
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: people's work doesn't matter. But like if you have, if
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: I believe truly, if you do have that ability, like
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: every time people are sad, they go to art.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: They don't go, they go to art. They go to music.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: They go to podcasts. They go to comedy. They go
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: to something. If you truly had that ability, I believe,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: to give that gift to other people. Like, who's your favorite?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Like Chris Martin from Coldplay. You're like, gosh, dude, what
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: if he never did it? What if he never? Who
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: are you to that? I believe God gives people these talents.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Who are you to not?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Well, like I didn't, I wasn't pursuing it at first.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I thought I'll be like a businesswoman. Then I was like, well,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just was like, I knew how hard
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: it was to make it in acting growing up here
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: and stuff. But I knew I had this, like, comedy
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: gift that, like, I could imitate and do impressions. And
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I just remember I kind of came to the conclusion, like,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: if I don't pursue this gift that not everybody has. Like,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: I always tell people, find the thing that you're good
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: at that, like, not everybody else can do. There's a
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: lot of things I cannot do that I have friends
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: that are very good at. And I'm like, please pursue
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: interior design. Please pursue, like, your cooking.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: You're so good at it.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you're so good at it. And it's so
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: not me, you know? And so I'm like, I was like,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: it is like a, F you to God if you
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: don't use the gift that you know was blessed upon
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: you that not everybody can do. And like, it could
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: be amazing. And the other thing, which I've told the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: story on this show to so many times, but I'm
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: just going to say quickly, when I was like 10,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: I was watching like a call-in show and it was,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: someone called in and Eddie Murphy was a guest. And
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: this woman said, I just, if I knew if I
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: ever had a chance to talk to you, I have
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: to tell you this, you know, so many years ago,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: My son died. Like it was like a young child
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: and it was the worst day of my life. And
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: I said, I will never laugh again. And that night
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I turned on SNL and you were Gumby and I
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: laughed again. And I remember at 10 going, that's what
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I want to do. That's what I want to do.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if I could do, if I could make
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: someone laugh on their hardest day and be an escape,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: I just want to be an escape for an hour,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: hour and a half, whatever it is. And I'm like,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I think when your intentions are pure like that, Then
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: the success will come. Some will be making $ 100 million
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: and some will just be very happy in their house,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: but they still get to be creative. But if you
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: do it for the right reasons, you know.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: If you are like, look at everything, whoever put this
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: together is, I believe, doing God's work. I love Starbucks.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: These people are evil, obviously.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Somebody cared.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: He wasn't like the person who grew these beans all
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: the way in wherever they come from. That guy wakes
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: up with the same intention that we do. He doesn't like,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: I hope I make money. I hope I, but I
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: was born to figure out how the best way to
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: plant these beans and to grow them into, and he
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: sees everybody here. commercially enjoying what God gave him the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: ability to do that.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: I think that's everything of that camera. I think that's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: the road that you drove on over here.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: The guy was like, I'm obsessed with this mixture of
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: cement and asphalt that I could put together so people
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: can drive on these roads. Christianity aside, I feel like
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: more people listening to this podcast can get about the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: business of doing the reason why God put them on
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: this planet.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Well, before we end, I want to say I love.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: We're going to ask everybody to get saved now. I
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: feel like that was too much. I don't care. That
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: was too much. That was too much.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: The other thing that's happened in the last few years
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: for me positively is that I was way more conscious
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: about saying the wrong thing and being caught saying the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: wrong thing and all that. And I do feel like
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: now I'm like, fuck it. Who cares? Go listen to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: someone else then. I'm sorry. This is me. You may
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: not like every episode. You may not like every guest.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be me. You not. You choosing to— unsubscribe.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to lose my home. Like I'm not,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: it's not going to change my lifestyle. My dad always
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: used to say that too. If I lose this client,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: it's not going to change my lifestyle. If I don't
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: do this gig, like it's, it's okay. So like, you know,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: at this point I do think, thank God the pendulum
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: is swinging where people are a little bit able to breathe.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: But not if you're on the networks.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: If you've got a reoccurring on a network sitcom and
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: you put out a tweet, They will write you out
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: of that show.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Right, because the morality clause of the contracts and things
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: like that, they can say that.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Actually, I know a person that it has happened to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: They were cast in a show?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: They were in a show where an article came out
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: about them that the network did not like, and they
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: wrote them out.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Of the show.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: And it was just politically incorrect?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Not hateful?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: No, it just was not on the side that they were.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: And they go, well, but now, like, you look at,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: rogan you look at what's the guy that uh you
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: i'm sure you talked about it that was uh he
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: was locking the doors from the inside and he was
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: hooking up with all the girls at the morning show.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: The cb oh matt lauer yeah yeah you're done yeah
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: because you're with cbs right and now he didn't he
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: never had his own audience yeah like rogan has his
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: own right so you can't.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Right It's amazing. It's the greatest.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: It truly, and all the complaints that we all in
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: the 80s and 90s and early 2000s, you're like, well,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: we made our own show.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I want to talk about this show. I
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: love this. It's filmed like The Office or Parks and Rec.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: And tell me a little bit how you thought of
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: it and how you executed it and everything.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's called Springfield First. So it's basically my father-in-law
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: has passed down the church to me. So I'm this young,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: trendy kind of pastor, and it's always– if you have
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: a church of 5,000 people, there are very human scenarios
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: that are going on.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Drama. Yeah.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: There has to be. My dad was a pastor, and
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: I've worked at churches, so I know how it goes.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: I know all this. They're like, this guy's nuts in
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: the church, but he tithes a lot of money.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: And that means he gives a lot of money.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that means he gives a lot of money. So
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: let's– hear them out right or there's a lot of
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: human things going on at a church yeah catholic church
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: too that you.
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  Speaker 2: Go but they the thing about the catholic church like
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: i said like if i don't if i didn't go
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: like they're not calling me up and being like where
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: are you they're not knocking on the door that's the
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: thing where i'm like that's i wish the catholics would
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: take some marketing classes there needs to be.
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  Speaker 4: A middle between the evangelicals and the catholics like catholics
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  Speaker 4: don't care if you're there.
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  Speaker 2: No they don't care you're not special you're not special
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  Speaker 2: yeah You know, it's like, you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Evangelical everybody's too special.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do a lot, you still can't reserve
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: a seat on Christmas Eve. You could give $ 100, 000.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: You could be singing in the choir. That's why people
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: like Catholicism now.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: And if you can't find a parking spot, you're screwed.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: You're standing in the back with your heels in the cold.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Gosh.
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  Speaker 2: You can't buy a seat.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: And in this evangelical scenario, like one of the— we have
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: a Greek team. Like every evangelical church would have a
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: greet team, meaning you walk in, there's a, hey, how
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: you doing? Good to see you. And we did like
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: a review of the headshots of like, it's Easter. We
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: got to get the hottest. Greeters.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: And everybody in the DMs, by the way, is like,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: this is my church. Like this happens.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is also sorority life. It's like putting
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: the cutest girls in front to do the sexy dance.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 4: But think about that conversation.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, okay. But it's God, too. How much does
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: she weigh? Or like, well, she's a little bit hotter.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: She gets more likes on her Instagram. Let's put her
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: up front. It's like.
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  Speaker 2: We would be sitting back from communion, and my mom
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: would be like. My mom, who is a good woman,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: but shallow. She'd be like, what happened to the O'Malley girl? Well,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: they sent her off to the Midwest. And, I mean,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: talk about the freshman 15. I think it's a freshman 15.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: My gosh, I could barely walk. And I'm like, Mom,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: we are in church.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Like, you literally just.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Got the body of Christ. I'm like, you are so—
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: But we would still go to church every Sunday.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: And we would be, like, literally judging people's outfits. And
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, so when you thought— now, I'm guessing in your career—
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: As you're rising up, many people, network people, came to
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: you saying you should have a sitcom.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: And this is what it should be. Was this ever
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: one of the ideas you had back before you decided
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: to do it yourself?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: That's a thousand people. I've pitched this to a thousand people.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: And how far did it go?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: They shut it down every time.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Did you ever get to the point where you wrote
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: the pilot but not acted out?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we wrote and filmed the pilot. Which network? No,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: it– We pitched it to everybody, ESPN– not ESPN, Netflix, CBS,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: Amazon Prime, all of them.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: But it never got to the point. And so then
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: what made you go, actually, I'm at a point where
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: I'd like to finance it myself and film it myself
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: and how does that work?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: It's really not– I mean just between us. It's not
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: between us, I guess. But it's just a– it's a WeWork.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, you went to a WeWork.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: That's what that office is.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: That's the set.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: It's an office. I mean, the outside of the church
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: is AI.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: And we have a camera. We have all the stuff.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: And how long are each of the things?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: A couple minutes.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: It could be two. It could be five. Just a
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: simple scenario.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: And I know it's on your Instagram, but is it
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: also on YouTube where you can watch it all at once? Yeah. No. No.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: It's not there. They just released daily or released twice
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: a week.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: It's a Springfield first is what it's like.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: And then did you finance it all yourself or you
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: got investors?
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: I just financed it myself because.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: And has anyone now come and said, we think this can.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: Be a bigger show. And I go, I tried to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: pitch this deal like for years. I wish the same
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: thing with you.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: But people are ahead of their time sometimes. Sometimes you're
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: just ahead of your time.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: Same with you.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: That you go, God, I'm so glad they didn't, they
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: turned it down. Yeah. Cause now like we did a, uh,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: we had a joke in that somebody getting towed from the, okay.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I loved that.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: That was such a, the, uh, no Kings rally. And
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: I go, are they, which side of the no Kings
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: were they on? And, but I go, people were getting
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: towed from the church parking lot. And, but I go,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you're going to a Chris Tomlin,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: it's like a big Christian singer. I don't care if
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: you're going to a Chris Tomlin concert or a clan rally.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: You can't park in our church parking lot, but look,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: that'll be cut. The network could have cut that.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: And anything we're talking about here, the network goes, hey,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: we can't.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: So you go, well, all right. Well, then everybody's just
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: doing it themselves.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually, watching it, I thought, ooh, that's kind
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: of even edgy that he's saying this.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: But I thought that was so true.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: But edgy to who?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Because I'm watching it and it was really funny because
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: it was like, we're not really sure if they're for
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: the No Kings or they're going to protest the No Kings. Yeah.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: It's all like, it was like, and it was so confusing,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: but like so funny. And then you're like, just tell them.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: Like, it takes like a very, very, all the most
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: touchy subjects, but doesn't take a side.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Like, uh, the next, the next episode is, uh, somebody comes,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: you know, like what a Bible study is like a group. Yeah.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: There's like, the church has like a hundred of them. Yeah.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: If you join the church, you can choose which Bible
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: study we're going to do the book of Romans. We're a,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: empty nesters Bible study, college Bible study. So somebody comes
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: and they say they want to have black Bible study.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: And you go, Oh.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: Uh, okay. Does, uh, like we can't allow that. Yeah.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: Obviously the white people are going to be upset. They're like,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: we don't have a white Bible study. We're like, we
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: got a NASCAR pickleball Bible study. We're like, all right,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: we're trying to do it. And then I just, it's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: like very, I go, well, they can't, what do they
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: want to call it? They go black Bible study. I go,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: can we switch it to like, the Bible study cookout
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: or it's like insane. Like it, but it doesn't say
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: it doesn't take a side, which is what's brilliant about it.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: But there's nobody in our ear to like tell us.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: It was so funny. I, um, I was talking about
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: this like scandal, this cheating scandal on like a reality
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: show and under the video they said, well, you're missing
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: the point about what Sierra said in the AA community. Yeah.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: And I go, AA. I'm like, is she Alcoholics Anonymous?
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: And they're like, no, it's African American. Now we know
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: that Heather's so clueless.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I just see her as.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: A beautiful girl. I go, I don't think he was
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: dating her or not dating her because of the color
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: of skin. I think she was hot and.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: It didn't work out.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, what? I'm like, I only know AA
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: as AA. Sorry. And then they're like, yeah, the haters
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: are like, we got her. Like there's like one person
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: in basement, like just trying to see you slip up
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't fucking care anymore.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: Or like, you can't, you can't like, uh, I have
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: no boss for you to like, you know, if a
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: guy's like sending like inappropriate things, they can find his
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: boss and then send it to him and then he
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: gets fired.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: Like, well, we don't, Yeah, what are you going to do?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: That's what's weird about being canceled also too. You go, well,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: he already, we already kind of tried to get him
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: and he's here or he's like, I don't know, what
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: do you want us to do?
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the other thing is once you go
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: through that too, it's like, you know, you've already, you know,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: done this once to me and if the Lord shows
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: it to me again, I will know how to react
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: even better. So go ahead and try.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: It's not scary. I mean, it used to be so,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: like when somebody first said something, critical about you it
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: was so terrifying oh yeah like especially publicly yeah they
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: were like hella mcdonald and you go oh my you're
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: like that's.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Not me yeah and now you're like i'm not gonna
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: waste my time defending no myself like i know who
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: i am and the people that listen and ben yeah
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: would they go to my show like i if i
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: lose someone whatever It's such a beautiful time. Yeah, it
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: really is good.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if you call it Hollywood. It
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: is good. Not Hollywood, but you can go find, if
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: you are obsessed with rock climbing in South Dakota, there's
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: content for you.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: There's an Instagram feed. There's probably a podcast. You don't
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: have to watch what everyone else has watched. Between me
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: and you, there's 10,000 Tonight Shows.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: And you can go watch the one you want.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: The one that– because people don't want the view. Well,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: they all have one view. But I'm saying at one
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: time there used to be let's have five people with
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: different points of view. Actually, no.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: They're all being canceled.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: I just want to hear like someone that I jive
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: with and I might disagree with them. But I still
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: know like deep down I like their personality and I
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: like– I think that they're a good person and whatever.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: And you don't have to– I want to hear what
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: Heather McDonald has to say about the thing that happened
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: over the weekend.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. Well, this has been so fun, and I
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: have your dates here. You have this huge tour. Oh, God,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: I did love the P.F. Changs.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, right. You went there? Is they have that
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: in the Valley?
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Go to his Instagram. Oh, yeah. And I remember he
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: does this really funny thing about P.F. Chang's, and it
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: was the fancier Chinese thing.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, you saw it?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: And there were cocktails. I remember the kids were little,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: and we were not– we didn't have the iPads when
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: my kids were little. So we would just not really
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: bring them anywhere, and we would just– The kids or
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: the iPads? Yeah. We were like, you know, we're not
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: going to put them in a place where they misbehave.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: So one day I decided I looked cute. I came
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: from an audition or something. And I was like, can
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: we go to P.F. Chang's? I think the boys can
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: handle it, you know. And my little one was like, whatever,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: two and a half. And I thought he could handle it. Well,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: remember those big booths and whatever? He managed to climb
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: over the booth, steal someone's like fortune cookie and run
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: out past this. And I was like– That's the horse. Yeah,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: and my husband's like, really? Was it worth it to
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: go to P.F. Chang's tonight? I'm like, no, we've got
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: to wait like another two years.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: No, we're not ready yet. Yeah, we're not ready. We
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: might be white trash.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Too nice of a place.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, too nice. P.F. Chang's was– the suburbs of America
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: was– Change the game.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: When I saw this, the horse, my God, so funny.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: But here are your dates. You're everywhere. Oh, dang. And
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: right now, this weekend, you're out here and then coming
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: in May, you're in Texas, North Carolina.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, we're going everywhere. Where are your viewers at in L.A.? Everywhere.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: They're everywhere.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're in the main— They're all these places.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: My best, you know, cities, states, whatever, are— L.A., San Diego,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: New York, Chicago, Florida, Texas.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: Beautiful.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Those are my– Philly, places like that, Washington, D.C., all that.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: And then Nashville too. I mean obviously you're in the south,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: which is amazing.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: We pop around a pretty good bit.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: So if you are not following you, I know that
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: you– everyone should because it's such funny content. You're such
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: a delight. Congrats on the engagement.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: It was God's plan for me to not be on
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: your shows. So that we could have this killer moment.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: So we could finally do the podcast. And you're welcome
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: to come on ours anytime you come to Nashville.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: Such a delete. Well, I know I'm working on putting
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: my fall in 27 together. And I know we're definitely
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: going to do a Nashville show for sure.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: Nashville is popular.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I've performed there before. It's been a couple years,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: which is good, too. Then in a few years, people
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: are real thirsty for it. And it's, you know, there's
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: nothing cuter than Nashville.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. True story. You just have some white cowboy boots.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: You'll fit right in.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, I already have white cowboy boots that I will
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: be bringing up. Yeah, because I'm going to La Quinta
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: this weekend. I have a house there. And, you know,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: for Coachella and Stagecoach, I was like, I think I
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: need to put the boots back in the house.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. You got to. Oh, you're going to Coachella?
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I'm going to go. I'm
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: hoping to go to some parties. And then, I mean,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty young vibe. So I kind of like
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: to just enjoy and then go to like.
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  Speaker 4: A party here and there.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do an appearance.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: You're not going to.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going for the three days like my
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: 19-year-old niece.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: Stay in a tent.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I have a house.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: We're not doing that.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, John.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: It's an honor to be here.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Total delight. Thank you.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Your website should get the tickets.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Shoot.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: What's the best ticket so they don't get screwed over
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: and they have to go directly to you?
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  Speaker 4: Tickets are $ 600. I go, no, they're not.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: You have to go to what?
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  Speaker 4: JohnChristComedy.com.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: And that's C-R-I-S-T.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Christ, but with no H.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: So easy.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: And it's J-O-N.
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  Speaker 4: J-O-H-N.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, you are J-O-H-N.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: There's an H in, but not in there. It's not
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: an H in the Christ. There's an H in the first,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: not the last.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: So John is J-O-H-N.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, C-R-I-S-T.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: And then the H is gone in Christ.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: And the Instagram, it's John B.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: John B. Christ. You know my middle name?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: Christ, Christ.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: My middle name is Barack.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He's a character in the Bible. He's a name
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: in the Bible.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my parents are very Republican.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: It's so fun. Yeah, they're like, you named after her.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: I go, wow, I'm 40. I'm 42. I couldn't be
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: named after Barack Obama.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: So interesting. Thank you.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: Honored to be here.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: Everybody go to HeatherMcDonald.net for all my stuff and my Patreon.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: Love you.
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