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NFL Offseason Mailbag: Andy Reid & Sean Payton LOSING their edge? Streaming taking over the NFL? Should I DATE my coworker? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: the show. We'll start with the Ethan after the release
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Speaker 1: of the International Slate. I think it's a historic nine
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Speaker 1: games like Paris, Munich, Mexico, Australia. It's crazy. I was
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Speaker 1: surprised to see the forty nine ers on there twice,
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Speaker 1: especially with how Kyle reacted to the Australia game. Got
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Speaker 1: me thinking, does the quote home team for the International
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Speaker 1: Games still get eight games at their home stadium? Hypothetically,
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Speaker 1: if you're the forty nine Ers and you travel twice
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Speaker 1: and are in a year where you only have eight
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Speaker 1: home games, there's only gonna be seven opportunities to play
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Speaker 1: in the home stadium. Do owners not care about the
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Speaker 1: revenue generated from having these home games taken away? It
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Speaker 1: also gives fans less chances to watch their games. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think I will see on the schedule tomorrow with
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, I don't know off the top
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Speaker 1: of my head is the AFC or the NFC hosting
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Speaker 1: that seventeenth game. Obviously, if you only have eight home game,
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Speaker 1: you give up one. But I think the forty nine
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Speaker 1: Ers have a huge Mexican fan base and their belief
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Speaker 1: is going to Mexico City is a good business move.
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Speaker 1: So it screws the season ticket holders unless you want
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Speaker 1: to fly to Mexico City, which I would imagine a
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Speaker 1: dud in Sacramento is probably not doing right, or a
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Speaker 1: dude in Fresno it's just watch that game on television.
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Speaker 1: But it is a big picture business move. For the
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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers that one of the biggest cities in
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Speaker 1: the world might be the biggest city in the world,
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Speaker 1: not up to my population geos with the major cities
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Speaker 1: in America, but it's clearly massive and they view that
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Speaker 1: as their market and they want to take a stranglehold
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Speaker 1: of their competition, which would be like the Cowboys and
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Speaker 1: whoever else falls under that umbrella that has a big,
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Speaker 1: big Mexican fan base. So I think with that move specifically,
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Speaker 1: they knew. Part of the reason Kyle was pissed off
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Speaker 1: out uh the Australia game is because the forty nine
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Speaker 1: Ers look at their home slate as the Levi games
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Speaker 1: right in Santa Clara, and then when they go to
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and then when they go to Glendale and
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Speaker 1: play the Cardinals, they get two extra home games. So
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Speaker 1: when the Rams who got you know, I don't exactly
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Speaker 1: know how it works, whether they raise their hand or
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Speaker 1: they were told you're going to be the team losing
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Speaker 1: a home game to Australia, because I don't think anyone
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Speaker 1: would choose that right. You wouldn't actively be like, we'll
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Speaker 1: give up a home game and we'll go to Australia.
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Speaker 1: The Jacks. They like going to the UK. They want
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Speaker 1: to build a fan base there. It's why they do
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Speaker 1: that back to back home games, which is happening again
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Speaker 1: this year. They stay, which they are clearly comfortable doing,
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Speaker 1: and I think one's a home game ons an away game,
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Speaker 1: but still like they enjoy doing that. The forty nine
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Speaker 1: Ers view the Rams actively choosing them because they know
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Speaker 1: that when the forty nine Ers play them, they have
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Speaker 1: to go on silent count that it becomes I went
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Speaker 1: to a Week eighteen game, might have been Week seventeen
5:06
Speaker 1: at the time back in January of twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 1: the Niners had to win to get into the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: and if the Rams won, they would because the Cardinals
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Speaker 1: lost that week it was the good year with Cliff,
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Speaker 1: they would have officially won the division. They ended up
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Speaker 1: winning the division, I think anyway, because the Cardinals lost
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Speaker 1: to Seattle that week. Who I don't think Seattle might
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Speaker 1: have been the last Russell Wilson game. Memory is a
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Speaker 1: little off, but I think it has more to do
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Speaker 1: with they thought the Rams actively demanded they play the
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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers in Australia, and that's why Laflora was
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Speaker 1: bringing it up when he was on the on the
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Speaker 1: show with Kyle and Florio and Chris Simms. But I
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Speaker 1: think the Niners want to go to Mexico City. They
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Speaker 1: view that as a market for them, right. It's like
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Speaker 1: Jerry likes going to ox Start. He views Los Angeles
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Speaker 1: as a big market for the Dallas Cowboys. So I
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Speaker 1: think there were no different than Shad and the Jags
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Speaker 1: being active and across the pond. They view that as
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Speaker 1: a market they can take advantage of. So I don't
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Speaker 1: have an issue with the Mexico City game. Now, granted
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Speaker 1: I'm not a season ticket holder, but I understand him
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Speaker 1: being up in arms about the Australia game because we
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Speaker 1: could have another argument of like should the it's one
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Speaker 1: thing going to France or the UK or Germany going
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Speaker 1: to Australia, Like, are we really gonna make teams fly
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Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen hours to play on a different day seems
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Speaker 1: a little crazy and really the only week you'd ever
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Speaker 1: be able to do it would be Week one. But
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Speaker 1: my guess is they go to Australia again next year.
6:39
Speaker 1: Curious where you stand now that offensive schemes of the
6:43
Speaker 1: older head coaches Andy Reid and Sean Payton still get
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Speaker 1: the quote genius wizard treatment, but their offenses have looked
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Speaker 1: pretty middle of the pack for a few years. I'm
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Speaker 1: not seeing the run game creativity from Ben Johnson or
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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, or the passing game precision of Kevin O'Connell
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Speaker 1: when he has a real quarterback. Have their schemes aged
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Speaker 1: a bit? Denver is a strong old line, Kansas City
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Speaker 1: has the best quarterback on earth, So why aren't we
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Speaker 1: seeing top tier results? And to be clear, I think
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Speaker 1: both guys are elite head coaches, but I'm starting to
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Speaker 1: question whether the scheme edge is still there. I think
7:18
Speaker 1: let's start with the Chiefs. Obviously, their wide receiver position
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Speaker 1: has been in flux from injuries, from just not being
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Speaker 1: as deep, from not being as talented of a unit.
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Speaker 1: Once they lost Tyreek Hill, so they shifted to defense,
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Speaker 1: like they allocated resources defensively, right, So their defense last
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Speaker 1: year they were a disaster, going six to eleven. But
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Speaker 1: the previous two years they won a Super Bowl and
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Speaker 1: were in a Super Bowl. So that's we can nitpick
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Speaker 1: the team with Denver. If bo Knicks doesn't get injured,
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Speaker 1: they're going to the Super Bowl. So Kevin O'Connell's had
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Speaker 1: some great offensive results, he's lost both times he's played
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Speaker 1: in the first round of the playoffs. So, quote unquote Wizards,
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Speaker 1: I think that goes back to in their heyday when
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Speaker 1: they have the best personnel. But they're a head coach,
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Speaker 1: so the goal of the head coach is to win.
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Speaker 1: Are they currently the most dynamic scheme guy in the NFL?
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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say not based on last year, right,
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Speaker 1: But the Denver Broncos hosted the AFC Championship Game and
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Speaker 1: if they didn't have to roll out a backup quarterback,
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Speaker 1: they win that game. And the Chiefs had been to
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Speaker 1: five Super Bowls in six years. So I always support anybody,
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Speaker 1: even if it's ugly. If you win, that's the end
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Speaker 1: goal of any head coach in any organization. But I
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Speaker 1: also think Andy Reid's gonna try to pivot this year.
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to try to attempt to be
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Speaker 1: much more run centric. They bring back the enemy, they
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Speaker 1: signed Walker, Their offensive line should be pretty good. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna ease Mahomes back in. I bet they have running
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Speaker 1: packages for justin fields. So I would expect the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: to look a little differently on offense than just rely
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Speaker 1: on Mahomes coming off the acl to throw fifty times.
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Speaker 1: You know a week now, Denver like bow Knicks can
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Speaker 1: be hit or miss. I don't necessarily put that out
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Speaker 1: of Sean Payton when bow Knicks is missing wide open guys.
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Speaker 1: He was clutch, he came through in some big moments,
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Speaker 1: but last year he was underwhelming in a lot of
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Speaker 1: games for the majority of them that they still pulled
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Speaker 1: out because their team's really good. So I hear you.
9:29
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question to have. Listening to
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Speaker 1: your Draft lottery podcast. I think it's a good idea,
9:35
Speaker 1: just needs a few little tweaks. I think there should
9:39
Speaker 1: be two lottery drafts, one for picks one through five
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Speaker 1: and one six through ten. That way, the really bad
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Speaker 1: teams can still be picking in the top five and
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Speaker 1: a team like the Chiefs can't get picked one. I
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Speaker 1: think it will create interesting parody and not encourage tanking
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Speaker 1: until the final week or two. I do not hate
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Speaker 1: your idea at all, because you know, if the Bengals
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Speaker 1: or Chiefs got the number one overall pick. In my
10:04
Speaker 1: scenario where if you missed it, I said, what if
10:07
Speaker 1: we did a draft lottery with the teams drafting in
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Speaker 1: the top ten, that would be musty TV. I don't
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Speaker 1: hate one through five and six through ten. Some people
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Speaker 1: of DM me thinking it's a crazy idea. No one
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Speaker 1: tanks in the NFL. The Raiders literally tried to win
10:21
Speaker 1: right up until like two weeks in the season when
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Speaker 1: they realized Pete Carroll's gonna get fired. The Arizona Cardinals
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Speaker 1: and Jets desperately tried to win every single week. So
10:30
Speaker 1: these teams, it's impossible to tank because you can't just
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Speaker 1: mail in a game like you can in the NBA.
10:37
Speaker 1: You can't mail in a game. You know in baseball
10:39
Speaker 1: you can mail No one's mailing it in in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Like the Jets right now they want a quarterback next
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Speaker 1: year in the draft. They're trying to win. They're trying
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Speaker 1: desperately to win. The Browns are gonna try to win
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Speaker 1: week one, week ten, Week eight, week fourteen. Maybe if
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Speaker 1: you have two or three wins, who gives a shit
10:56
Speaker 1: about the last couple weeks. Season's oh, but everyone tries
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Speaker 1: so I tanking is not an issue in football, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't exist, but this would definitely make it not exist.
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Speaker 1: I like your tweak I'd be cool with hell. We
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Speaker 1: could have one night Tuesday Tuesday six through ten and
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Speaker 1: Wednesday night at the combine is one through five. What
11:18
Speaker 1: a suck if you were the Raiders for good things
11:20
Speaker 1: about Mendozo even though he's been in the Raiders building
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Speaker 1: for like ten days. But I think they're excited as
11:26
Speaker 1: he should be. But good, good, good idea. We're always
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Speaker 1: open to ideas here. This is for the mailbag. Please
11:34
Speaker 1: don't use my name on the pod. I won't. I
11:37
Speaker 1: got my undergrad degree at Auburn but just graduated from UGA.
11:42
Speaker 1: Do you have any background knowledge of Alex Golish, head
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Speaker 1: coach of Auburn. Auburn is the only team year to
11:48
Speaker 1: year to have a returning quarterback and coaching duo to
11:52
Speaker 1: have more than fifteen starts together in college football. Also,
11:55
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful but nervous about Auburn and the NIL world.
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Speaker 1: The CEO of Yellowood is the richest person in the
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Speaker 1: state of Alabama, so we have deep pockets. But it
12:05
Speaker 1: seems there's been times our administration and boosters have gotten
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Speaker 1: in the way of the elite coaches like John summer
12:11
Speaker 1: On and Lane Kivin. I'm an Auburn fan, But for Uga,
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Speaker 1: do you think Kirby will ever go to the NFL.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that much about Alex Golish, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not like I've watched much when he was coaching
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Speaker 1: in South Florida. I have ran into on the internet
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Speaker 1: some interviews of him, and he does look very, very impressive.
12:31
Speaker 1: I think most people in the SEC say, if Auburn
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Speaker 1: gets the right head coach, they have the backing, they
12:36
Speaker 1: have the support, and they have the atmosphere and give
12:39
Speaker 1: a shit factor, they can be really good, really fast.
12:43
Speaker 1: You know, you could make the argument it's easier to
12:45
Speaker 1: get Auburn good than Florida good. If you just look
12:47
Speaker 1: at the last the Internet era, you're a post urban
12:50
Speaker 1: Meyer at Florida. Auburn's won a national championship, they've been
12:53
Speaker 1: to another, they've had they play Alabama well that they
12:57
Speaker 1: had some night games this year and a disastrous season
13:00
Speaker 1: that went. The atmosphere at Auburn is pretty special. They
13:05
Speaker 1: care about football a lot. Now, you're always gonna play
13:09
Speaker 1: second fiddle in your own state because you're never gonna
13:11
Speaker 1: be as big as Alabama unless you go on to
13:13
Speaker 1: win seven titles in fifteen years, which is probably not
13:17
Speaker 1: gonna happen in the NIL era, but the clips I've
13:20
Speaker 1: seen of Goalish the interviews, seems like a very very
13:22
Speaker 1: impressive guy. I've seen some walk arounds their facility that
13:26
Speaker 1: they got a lot of positive momentum. It feels like
13:28
Speaker 1: in the program it's just hard, and I think this
13:32
Speaker 1: is an SEC problem in general. Are they going to
13:36
Speaker 1: be able to pay the money some of the northern
13:39
Speaker 1: teams with bigger pockets can pay. Time will tell, but
13:44
Speaker 1: I think one advantage South Florida. I don't know if
13:48
Speaker 1: like they had some revenue sharing advantage or an NIL booster,
13:54
Speaker 1: but like they had really talented players. From a financial standpoint,
13:58
Speaker 1: they weren't your typical kind of small I know they're
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Speaker 1: not like you know, UC Davis, but I wouldn't compare
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Speaker 1: them to like Clemson or Florida State, and they've been very,
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Speaker 1: very successful. Like I kind of bought in what he's selling.
14:12
Speaker 1: I believe in him, seeing a lot of stuff with
14:14
Speaker 1: John Summral, very very impressive. The Bob Chesney at UCLA.
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Speaker 1: I actually think this crop of coaches obviously laying pretty
14:22
Speaker 1: polarizing individual, but his results speak for themselves. I think
14:27
Speaker 1: you never know maybe we'll look back in two or
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Speaker 1: three years. But sometimes, like the Hugh freezes, like you
14:32
Speaker 1: just go back to the well. I like this crop
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Speaker 1: of coaches a lot. I would buy stocking all these guys.
14:40
Speaker 1: And the other advantage Bama had over Auburn for a
14:43
Speaker 1: long was they had Nick right. Well, now Nick's gone.
14:47
Speaker 1: I like the bor I think it's a weird fit.
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Speaker 1: They just gave him a huge extension. Their nil budget
14:52
Speaker 1: isn't massive. He's you know, at Bama they like being
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Speaker 1: a physical run team. Look at Debor's history. He's much
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Speaker 1: more of like spread it out, pass the ball around.
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Speaker 1: It's like Bama is the worst rushing offense they've ever had.
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Speaker 1: That's not really Kln's thing. Okay, for a former offensive lineman,
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Speaker 1: he's more of a pass guy, So I'm buying it.
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Speaker 1: I'm still apoplectic over the Niners draft. Try to explain
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Speaker 1: to me the logic one. No sane person, after watching
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Speaker 1: Seattle dominate the forty nine ers offensive backfield would think
17:23
Speaker 1: the Niners needed a wide receiver and a running back
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Speaker 1: with two of their first three picks. Two after drafting
17:29
Speaker 1: stribbling in black, Shanahan praises both their ability to pass
17:33
Speaker 1: block three. Niners have probably drafted more defensive lineman the
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Speaker 1: first three rounds than any team over the last ten years.
17:39
Speaker 1: They clearly understand the value of defensive pressure with them
17:42
Speaker 1: needing so much O line help after both Seattle games.
17:46
Speaker 1: Expressing that value of pass blocking running back and wide receiver,
17:50
Speaker 1: and knowing the value of a dominant D line, how
17:53
Speaker 1: and why do Shanahan and Lynch completely ignore the offensive trenches.
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Speaker 1: They've told you this before. I disagree with it. I
18:00
Speaker 1: think most people in football would disagree with it. They
18:03
Speaker 1: believe playmakers over offensive lineman. I would have got aggressive
18:07
Speaker 1: for the offensive lineman that the Patriots traded above the
18:11
Speaker 1: forty nine ers four low to the Utah offensive lineman
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Speaker 1: who I knew a lot of people in the NFL
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Speaker 1: that liked a lot the forty nine ers don't believe
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Speaker 1: in that. Like they go, oh, this guy could be
18:24
Speaker 1: our next Juwan Jennings, but he's faster and much more
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Speaker 1: explosive down the field. It's like, Oh, this is what
18:29
Speaker 1: happens when a coach gets heavily, heavily involved with the draft.
18:33
Speaker 1: I like stribbling a lot, but I'm with you. Would
18:35
Speaker 1: you rather have a tackle right or a wide receiver?
18:41
Speaker 1: It's a no brainer to me. But when it comes
18:44
Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan, he's the offensive line coach. Chris Forrester
18:47
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago said this, He is on
18:49
Speaker 1: board with it, and maybe it's his arrogance thinking that
18:52
Speaker 1: he can coach these guys up. But like Trent Williams,
18:56
Speaker 1: aren't growing on trees in what world? How are you
18:59
Speaker 1: gonna place this guy, what if he goes down? I disagree,
19:04
Speaker 1: so philosophically, I can't get on board with it. As
19:09
Speaker 1: long as they win, though, It's like we can nitpick
19:11
Speaker 1: their guard centers. They did draft Aaron Banks from Notre
19:16
Speaker 1: Dame years ago in the second round, who was a
19:20
Speaker 1: weird scheme fit to me, He's a little bit more
19:21
Speaker 1: of a power guy. Obviously, the Packers signed him to
19:25
Speaker 1: a pretty big contract. I think they regret that one,
19:28
Speaker 1: and it clearly was a little underwhelming, and they just
19:32
Speaker 1: haven't gone back to the well. So yeah, I don't
19:35
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. It's not gonna change though,
19:38
Speaker 1: and if unless they have disastrous seasons, they're not just
19:43
Speaker 1: gonna start drafting offensive lineman in the first second round.
19:45
Speaker 1: This is not what they've done. It's not what I
19:48
Speaker 1: was accustomed to. You know. I was around Pat Hill,
19:53
Speaker 1: who was an offensive line coach by trade. I was
19:56
Speaker 1: around Andy Reid, who was an offensive line I'm in
20:00
Speaker 1: when he was young, and when I was there, we
20:03
Speaker 1: drafted I think lineman every year. Fletcher Cox, Danny Watkins
20:09
Speaker 1: was a bus but he was an offensive guard tackle
20:12
Speaker 1: and my first year Brandon Graham. I mean the trenches,
20:16
Speaker 1: but they they draft wide receivers a lot. Okay, question
20:20
Speaker 1: for the pod thoughts on the DOJ investigating the NFL
20:24
Speaker 1: and streaming services that people may not have access to football.
20:29
Speaker 1: I saw I read an article that I don't know
20:33
Speaker 1: if it was Rupert Murdoch. I think it was Rupert Murdoch,
20:37
Speaker 1: who is the patriarch of the Fox Empire. I think
20:41
Speaker 1: had said something to Donald about these streaming services in
20:47
Speaker 1: relation to the NFL. And I've been saying this for
20:50
Speaker 1: a while and we're in business here with Netflix, and
20:53
Speaker 1: Netflix just said the other day we don't want a
20:54
Speaker 1: full package. Now that could be posturing a little bit.
20:58
Speaker 1: You know, Amazon currently has a full package. If Apple TV,
21:02
Speaker 1: if those companies wanted to dwarf the numbers of Fox,
21:06
Speaker 1: CBS and NBC, they would put them out of business.
21:10
Speaker 1: Think about that. If Fox or CBS were to lose
21:14
Speaker 1: the National Football League, it would be a major, major problem,
21:20
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think that it would put
21:21
Speaker 1: those It would put those traditional networks out of business.
21:25
Speaker 1: So there is pressure from the powers that be at
21:29
Speaker 1: the traditional networks to use their political influence for their survival.
21:35
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this today. When it comes
21:37
Speaker 1: it's like middle Colff, what are you Politically? It's like,
21:40
Speaker 1: if you fuck with my business or you fuck with
21:41
Speaker 1: my family, you're an enemy. So who's got my back
21:44
Speaker 1: when it comes to my business with my family. If
21:46
Speaker 1: I ran a business, I would do whatever it took
21:48
Speaker 1: the CEO ofs these businesses to be in with whoever
21:52
Speaker 1: is running the administration, because that's all I care about.
21:54
Speaker 1: That's my prerogative to people. That's not right? What about
21:58
Speaker 1: that's This is the private sector and survival, especially when
22:01
Speaker 1: you're talking about numbers that are this big, are the
22:05
Speaker 1: end all be all? So if Fox were to lose
22:08
Speaker 1: the NFL, it would be Night Night. If CBS were
22:12
Speaker 1: to lose the NFL, it would be Night Night. NBC
22:16
Speaker 1: peacock like they need peacock to survive, but the only
22:19
Speaker 1: way for its survival is if NFL games are on peacock, Like,
22:23
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna survive with the NBA. So it's all
22:26
Speaker 1: about these traditional networks, you know, going to battle with
22:30
Speaker 1: these streaming services that have more resources. You can fight
22:33
Speaker 1: them off for so long. But it's if you just
22:36
Speaker 1: look big picture, ten twenty years, it does feel somewhat inevitable.
22:42
Speaker 1: And listen I've been. I've benefited from inevitable change. Like
22:46
Speaker 1: I'm currently on Netflix. Our podcast audio numbers are big.
22:51
Speaker 1: Why because of the phone. My career started in radio
22:55
Speaker 1: and it was clear early on you're like this medium fucked.
22:58
Speaker 1: So I got lucky. It was kind of four it,
23:00
Speaker 1: but pivoted into something that was trending the right way.
23:03
Speaker 1: And if what I do now ever started trending the
23:06
Speaker 1: other way, I'd better look for a life raft and go, well,
23:08
Speaker 1: what's gonna work. That's the way business is, especially if
23:12
Speaker 1: you are tied to technology, and that's I got two
23:15
Speaker 1: TVs in my office. They're hardwired. We don't have a
23:19
Speaker 1: cable box in here. I have internet wires running from
23:22
Speaker 1: my house, the fiber optic cables. It's all just hardwired.
23:28
Speaker 1: I press a button, boom, pull anything on from my phone.
23:31
Speaker 1: That wouldn't even have been possible probably ten years ago.
23:35
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been not to do what I needed
23:38
Speaker 1: to do, watch all the games. But I also have
23:40
Speaker 1: all the apps on the TV like all you do,
23:42
Speaker 1: but I don't have a box. It's all based on
23:44
Speaker 1: the internet. So I think that's really really changed the game.
23:48
Speaker 1: And I think it's just survival and I never blame
23:52
Speaker 1: anyone in business trying to survive. It's the fucking name
23:55
Speaker 1: of the game. Question for the mail bag, is Netflix
24:00
Speaker 1: ever gonna allow you to go live after the games
24:03
Speaker 1: like you did on YouTube? Love the content? We we
24:08
Speaker 1: actually had a meeting, would be strong. But I was
24:11
Speaker 1: on a text thread with the powers that be on
24:14
Speaker 1: my side, and we are. We have been discussing that
24:19
Speaker 1: for months now. When we when we started the deal,
24:22
Speaker 1: it was when was it middle of January? Wasn't as important,
24:29
Speaker 1: not that it wasn't important, but it was, you know,
24:32
Speaker 1: a lot happened fast. I didn't know all the details,
24:34
Speaker 1: not that that would have changed anything in terms of
24:37
Speaker 1: being able to go live, how it was gonna work,
24:39
Speaker 1: But that is a point of emphasis. Let me let
24:41
Speaker 1: me just put it that way. I will if I
24:43
Speaker 1: ever have news, which I hope to have, we will
24:47
Speaker 1: report back. But we got a little we got a
24:50
Speaker 1: little runway May thirteenth, so we got several months to
24:54
Speaker 1: figure this out. But that is that is a prominent
24:58
Speaker 1: talking point here in in my office. You know something
25:02
Speaker 1: we are very very passionate about doing, and clearly they
25:05
Speaker 1: have the capability because other people do it. So yeah,
25:08
Speaker 1: that is. That is something we are currently working on
25:13
Speaker 1: in discussions. Hear me out on this one. Guys like
25:16
Speaker 1: Andy who are dynamic play callers and quarterback whispers or
25:19
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson dynamic play caller with an almost scientific run scheme,
25:23
Speaker 1: but no one really talks about them as offensive line gurus.
25:28
Speaker 1: My question is this, is there something these kind of
25:31
Speaker 1: guys understand about blocking and O line that make them
25:35
Speaker 1: special or is it a scheme thing or a coaching style.
25:39
Speaker 1: Sorry for rambling, big fan. We'll start with Andy. Andy's
25:43
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. He played offensive lineman or he played
25:47
Speaker 1: O line at BYU. His teammate was Kyle Whittingham in
25:51
Speaker 1: the early eighties, and then as his career took off,
25:55
Speaker 1: he coached that position. It is something if you've ever
25:59
Speaker 1: met Andy or ov see all you guys have seen
26:01
Speaker 1: him on TV, that's who he is at his core.
26:04
Speaker 1: He just kind of wishes he was also a quarterback
26:06
Speaker 1: and could throw deep. But the trenches mean a lot
26:09
Speaker 1: to him. So most offensive linemen like there's a big
26:14
Speaker 1: gap between a high end starter and just an average guy. Right,
26:18
Speaker 1: So when you get a Jason Peters, Joe Tooney, Creed Humphrey,
26:25
Speaker 1: a Trey Smith, whoever the talent Josh Simmons possesses the
26:31
Speaker 1: advantage you have when you got elite talents on the
26:35
Speaker 1: front make your coaching look a lot better. I think
26:39
Speaker 1: all these guys would be the first to tell you.
26:41
Speaker 1: They also emphasize. You know, when I was with in Philly,
26:44
Speaker 1: Wan Castile was the offensive line coach for a decade
26:47
Speaker 1: and at the time he was viewed as one of
26:48
Speaker 1: the best old line coaches in the league. And he's
26:50
Speaker 1: had Andy Heck I think his entire times he's been
26:52
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I'm pretty sure Andy Heck came with
26:55
Speaker 1: him in twenty thirteen. So you emphasize that position in draft,
27:00
Speaker 1: free agency, whatever, and you have an offensive line coach,
27:04
Speaker 1: you're paying a lot of money. Jeff Sallen was the
27:06
Speaker 1: highest paid offensive line coach in the league for a
27:08
Speaker 1: long time. So they drafted players in Philly, they signed
27:12
Speaker 1: players in Philly, and they paid a premium to their
27:15
Speaker 1: own line coach. So it's emphasized. With Ben, I would
27:21
Speaker 1: love to talk to him about this one day. I
27:23
Speaker 1: think in your core like you kind of are a
27:26
Speaker 1: run game guy or you're a pass game guy. As
27:29
Speaker 1: a as a play caller, and I think Ben is
27:33
Speaker 1: probably why him and Dan Campbell hit it off like
27:36
Speaker 1: they fucking love shoving it down your throat, handing the
27:39
Speaker 1: ball off, And obviously scheme is a huge part of that,
27:43
Speaker 1: the zone running scheme, the timing of play calls. But
27:48
Speaker 1: like they've had some pretty good backs over the last Obviously,
27:53
Speaker 1: the Bears this year with you know, Swift looked fantastic.
27:56
Speaker 1: Manunjai by the end of the year was one of
27:58
Speaker 1: the best seventh rounders in the league. Previously with Gibbs
28:01
Speaker 1: in Montgomery. So it's like, you need a good offensive
28:04
Speaker 1: lineman and you need good backs. You need to consistently
28:06
Speaker 1: call the run like part of being a good run game.
28:09
Speaker 1: Play caller George Kittle has talked about this. Kyle will
28:13
Speaker 1: call plays when they're humming, and he wants to call
28:16
Speaker 1: run plays that he knows will not work or eventually
28:21
Speaker 1: will be like jabs and kind of wear you down.
28:24
Speaker 1: So he will take a couple two yard game, two
28:26
Speaker 1: yard game, three yard game to get that fifteen yard
28:29
Speaker 1: game to get that backbreaking play, And a lot of
28:33
Speaker 1: play callers, I think will pivot away from the run
28:38
Speaker 1: because it's not working. A run game I don't even
28:42
Speaker 1: want to say coordinator, but a guy that emphasizes that
28:46
Speaker 1: that area in his offense is just willing to play
28:49
Speaker 1: the long game. And I think that's what any good
28:53
Speaker 1: run game coach does. And obviously Ben, I think him
28:58
Speaker 1: and Kyle are the two best offensive coordinators who love
29:02
Speaker 1: to run the ball and will just stick with it.
29:05
Speaker 1: And then I think it just your offensive linemen love it,
29:09
Speaker 1: and your running back stay dialed into the game, and
29:12
Speaker 1: then it opens up play action and you know, if
29:14
Speaker 1: you have good offensive personnel you can just and you
29:16
Speaker 1: have a good play caller. It's fucking on, Like Donkey Kong,
29:23
Speaker 1: is it better for a player to be the last
29:24
Speaker 1: pick in the first round or the first pick in
29:26
Speaker 1: the second round? The fifth year option seems more team friendly,
29:29
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. Seems like players that have success
29:33
Speaker 1: like Devin h Chan get to hit free agency earlier.
29:37
Speaker 1: I've made comments on Twitter before and have agents come
29:42
Speaker 1: at me because I went, God, that contract feels low.
29:45
Speaker 1: The one thing they've always said when I'm getting yelled at,
29:48
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I disagree, but I'll take it, is
29:51
Speaker 1: that when you have the fifth year option and you're
29:54
Speaker 1: a good player, like a Chan, right, he would have
29:56
Speaker 1: been a guy that had had his fifth year option
29:57
Speaker 1: picked up. That is guaranteed money. So when you're gonna
30:02
Speaker 1: give me a contract extension, my number is typically higher
30:05
Speaker 1: the amount of guaranteed dollars I get. And if I'm
30:08
Speaker 1: going to sign an extension with you, you got to
30:10
Speaker 1: make it worth my while. So it's why you usually
30:14
Speaker 1: see first rounders that get extensions are usually massive, and
30:17
Speaker 1: sometimes the middle round guys that get a contract sometimes
30:22
Speaker 1: they can be kind of hit or miss, and I
30:24
Speaker 1: don't mean like miss, like they don't get any money.
30:26
Speaker 1: But relative to Jsn's a first rounder, so when he
30:31
Speaker 1: gets a big extension and the guarantee is huge, part
30:34
Speaker 1: of that is that fifth year option is built into
30:36
Speaker 1: that guarantee. So people go, he's got one hundred and
30:39
Speaker 1: ten million dollars guaranteed. Well, whatever his fifth year option
30:44
Speaker 1: number would have been, that's part of that total number.
30:48
Speaker 1: Where when you're dev An a Chan, it's not really
30:52
Speaker 1: because you're like, well the franchise tag, well, JSN would say, well,
30:55
Speaker 1: I have two franchise tags on top of the guaranteed number,
30:59
Speaker 1: So you would rather if you're gonna be a good
31:01
Speaker 1: player and get a contract extension. You would rather be
31:05
Speaker 1: a first round pick because you have fifth year option
31:10
Speaker 1: which is fully guaranteed at a high number, and then
31:12
Speaker 1: a franchise tag and then a second franchise tag, so
31:15
Speaker 1: you have a lot if you're an elite player that like, hey,
31:18
Speaker 1: you can year by year, but these are the numbers.
31:20
Speaker 1: So if we're gonna do a long term contract, it
31:22
Speaker 1: kind of starts with that, where if you're a chan
31:24
Speaker 1: you only have the two franchise tags to go off of.
31:27
Speaker 1: So again we're nitpicking millions of dollars, but you would
31:31
Speaker 1: rather be the last pick in the first round than
31:33
Speaker 1: the first pick in the second round. Plus if it
31:38
Speaker 1: doesn't go well, you know we're talking best case scenario.
31:41
Speaker 1: If it doesn't go well, you sign a four year,
31:43
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract. Who are the Niners targeting this summer?
31:49
Speaker 1: With sixty seven million dollars in cap space? I was
31:54
Speaker 1: watching Who was I watching? Wasn't the Colts? I was
31:59
Speaker 1: watching some press conference and he mentioned that his salary
32:04
Speaker 1: cap guy keeps a fund that they call the August Fund,
32:09
Speaker 1: so they keep some extra cap space just because you
32:13
Speaker 1: never know who's gonna become available. You want to have flexibility. Hey,
32:17
Speaker 1: we could trade for this veteran, but his cap number
32:19
Speaker 1: is gonna be x, and if you don't have it, it
32:22
Speaker 1: can be complicated. So I think part of it is optionality.
32:26
Speaker 1: It gives you options. It also allows you to roll
32:30
Speaker 1: over money, so you can roll it over into the
32:33
Speaker 1: next year. Maybe the free agent class is better. It
32:36
Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee that they're gonna sign some guy this summer,
32:39
Speaker 1: but if a deal comes available that they view worthy,
32:43
Speaker 1: maybe they can sign a second round pick and land.
32:47
Speaker 1: They're not gonna do this, but like aj Brown, but
32:50
Speaker 1: that guy ideally would be like a guard, you know,
32:52
Speaker 1: or a center, but those guys are never available. I
32:55
Speaker 1: think it's just teams like to be flexible. They didn't
32:58
Speaker 1: see just because you have money to mean you need
33:00
Speaker 1: to spend it, but you always want to have in
33:04
Speaker 1: your back pocket. Hey, Michael Parkson's available, Max Crosby's available.
33:10
Speaker 1: You know you picked. It's just a cycle. There's gonna
33:12
Speaker 1: be a new group of players available. And the more
33:15
Speaker 1: flexibility you have to pull the trigger on stuff like that,
33:19
Speaker 1: the easier it is to make a move. But I
33:23
Speaker 1: don't think nothing's guaranteed. I know this happened a month
33:30
Speaker 1: ago and was withdrawn. But why do you think the
33:33
Speaker 1: Browns made the proposal to trade picks five years in
33:37
Speaker 1: the future. Do you think they had a specific trade
33:39
Speaker 1: in mind. My understanding was they're an analytically driven organization.
33:45
Speaker 1: They probably study basketball, I'm sure, and go that they
33:50
Speaker 1: have the ability to trade future years years into the future. Right.
33:56
Speaker 1: You see, right now in the NBA team owns my
33:58
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one or thirty two pick, and in the
34:01
Speaker 1: NFL you can only got three years. So again back
34:04
Speaker 1: to the Niners cap space, I think they were just looking.
34:07
Speaker 1: It gives you more optionality, and who knows, maybe someone's
34:10
Speaker 1: willing to trade them picks in the future. So it's
34:13
Speaker 1: not even just a trade they're willing to make. What
34:15
Speaker 1: if someone offered you this, we will give you a
34:19
Speaker 1: second next year, a first the following year, and a
34:23
Speaker 1: first in five years for Miles Garrett. Stuff like that.
34:27
Speaker 1: It's not even available, which I think would happen a lot.
34:31
Speaker 1: It's why I think the owners voted it down, because hey,
34:35
Speaker 1: you can give two ones in a two for Miles Garrett,
34:37
Speaker 1: but your two ones are in four and five years.
34:40
Speaker 1: You'd be like, yeah, fuck it, let's do it. I
34:43
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame anybody. Problem is in four years, what if
34:46
Speaker 1: you're a disaster? And that's the number two overall? Pick
34:52
Speaker 1: a bit of a life question. Good question though I'm
34:55
Speaker 1: twenty five. I want to ask this girl out, but
34:57
Speaker 1: we work in the same place and have some of
34:59
Speaker 1: the same friends. I don't want to crash and burn
35:03
Speaker 1: and then make life weird at work and socially. I
35:07
Speaker 1: don't don't shit where you eat kind of situation. What
35:13
Speaker 1: do you think I should do? Ask her out since
35:15
Speaker 1: I really love hanging out with her, or pass ps
35:18
Speaker 1: as a patch fan? I wash Vrabel thought about the
35:21
Speaker 1: consequences of his romantic actions like this before making his moves. Yeah, ideally,
35:29
Speaker 1: if your situation goes well, you're in a different situation
35:32
Speaker 1: than Brabel. But I hear you. Full disclosure. I've never
35:35
Speaker 1: dated anybody where I've worked. I you know, for a
35:38
Speaker 1: couple of years work, you know in Fresno State and
35:40
Speaker 1: then the Eagles that they were Freeze State, there actually
35:42
Speaker 1: were a lot of girls around. They were like either
35:45
Speaker 1: coaches or the student athletes, which I just wasn't willing
35:49
Speaker 1: to fuck up the opportunity that I had, So I
35:51
Speaker 1: was not even saying that it would happen. But I
35:55
Speaker 1: was pretty focused that way. And then with the Eagles
35:57
Speaker 1: there just weren't women around ever, so what I was
36:00
Speaker 1: gonna date was gonna be outside the office. And then
36:02
Speaker 1: when I worked in radio, same thing, there were no
36:05
Speaker 1: women around. Really they were definitely worth dating. So I
36:08
Speaker 1: have no experience being in a situation where you dated
36:14
Speaker 1: someone at work. Now, I've known a lot of people
36:16
Speaker 1: that have done that, and clearly there are hr rules
36:19
Speaker 1: that can be a little risky, and even before you
36:21
Speaker 1: get there. That's assuming things go well right. It's part
36:26
Speaker 1: of asking anyone out is it's like being a salesperson.
36:29
Speaker 1: You might hear some nos, but you're never gonna get
36:32
Speaker 1: a yes if you don't try. So I'm always pro like,
36:35
Speaker 1: what do you ever to lose? Your situation could be
36:38
Speaker 1: a little more complicated. I don't know the company rules.
36:42
Speaker 1: I think most people have a pretty good feel, like
36:47
Speaker 1: your gut reaction of like she's feeling this or not.
36:51
Speaker 1: Now Listen, sometimes people can be overly friendly and it's
36:54
Speaker 1: not as firtatious as you think. But I think most
37:00
Speaker 1: of us have some like animal instincts to know, like, yes,
37:04
Speaker 1: she's we're kind of vibeing here. Again, it can be
37:07
Speaker 1: complicated with HR. I don't know the rules for your
37:11
Speaker 1: individual company. I think most of them. I do feel
37:14
Speaker 1: like growing up a lot of people I knew even
37:17
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years ago when I got out of college,
37:19
Speaker 1: a lot of people met their significant others in some
37:22
Speaker 1: work related thing. I guess meeting someone at a conference
37:26
Speaker 1: is different meeting someone in your office, but historically a
37:29
Speaker 1: lot of people have met in the office. I guess
37:35
Speaker 1: my advice would be this, you never know when love's
37:39
Speaker 1: going to strike, So what if this is your future wife?
37:43
Speaker 1: If you would have I didn't know who Maria was
37:45
Speaker 1: ten years ago, five years ago, I guess may five
37:48
Speaker 1: years Yeah, I didn't know her five years ago. Now
37:51
Speaker 1: I live with here, we have a child. So things
37:53
Speaker 1: change really really fast. You never want to look back. God,
37:57
Speaker 1: I wish I would have done that. Who knows. I mean,
37:58
Speaker 1: your generation changed jobs like every five months. I would
38:03
Speaker 1: just try to be pretty confident that you're gonna get
38:07
Speaker 1: yesked and you could even do like a sly. You
38:09
Speaker 1: don't even need a full on date, like let me
38:11
Speaker 1: take you to dinner. You guys are twenty five, like
38:13
Speaker 1: you want to get some cocktails. But then if she
38:15
Speaker 1: goes well, can some of our friends come along? Then
38:18
Speaker 1: you you just gotta feel it out. You just gotta
38:21
Speaker 1: feel it out. I would trust your gut. I wouldn't
38:23
Speaker 1: be overly aggressive, though, I would ease into this one.
38:26
Speaker 1: It's easier to be more aggressive with a girl you
38:29
Speaker 1: met at a bar, with you know, mutual friends that
38:32
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with work related. I think you
38:35
Speaker 1: gotta tread lightly here. But if you're confident, I mean,
38:39
Speaker 1: this could be the future mother or your children, or
38:43
Speaker 1: it could be someone that says no and turns you
38:46
Speaker 1: to get you fired. So it's a it's a pretty
38:48
Speaker 1: big risk, but that's that's life. Life's one big coin flip,
38:52
Speaker 1: and if you're not willing to try, you never know.
38:56
Speaker 1: But I again, I've never dated anyone at work obviously
38:59
Speaker 1: can be complicated. Known a lot of people that have
39:01
Speaker 1: a lot of great relationships. Actually, nineteen year old debating
39:17
Speaker 1: going to become a college football coach or going into
39:20
Speaker 1: construction management. I've had a deep love of football, but
39:23
Speaker 1: value family and friends as well. Just curious on your advice.
39:27
Speaker 1: I would guess that if you're nineteen, are you in
39:30
Speaker 1: college trying to get a construction management degree. I actually
39:35
Speaker 1: knew a bunch of guys at Cal Pauli that I
39:36
Speaker 1: went to school with that did that and started making
39:39
Speaker 1: big cash right out of high school or college. So
39:43
Speaker 1: it's a lucrative profession, that's for sure. One way to
39:47
Speaker 1: kind of just wet your beak a little bit and
39:50
Speaker 1: dip your toes in the water coach high school, Like,
39:53
Speaker 1: get on with the high school where you live, and
39:56
Speaker 1: you can go to college or work towards your degree
39:59
Speaker 1: or and still coach high school. And if it's one
40:03
Speaker 1: of those things, like I fucking love doing this. That's
40:06
Speaker 1: what Mike McDonald did when he went to UGA. He
40:08
Speaker 1: was a finance major and coach high school on the side.
40:11
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham did the same thing at ashu So And
40:14
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe you're the next Kenny Dillingham or maybe
40:16
Speaker 1: a couple of years and you're like, I don't like
40:18
Speaker 1: it as much as I thought. I love watching football,
40:20
Speaker 1: I don't like coaching it. I think high school is
40:23
Speaker 1: a pretty easy route just to dip your toe in.
40:27
Speaker 1: One of your takes from yesterday's episode was about Bill
40:32
Speaker 1: always coaching Tom like everybody else screaming at him, and
40:35
Speaker 1: it made me think, I think the Chiefs bringing back
40:39
Speaker 1: the enemy is exactly what the offense needs. Andy isn't
40:42
Speaker 1: the loudest, over the top coach anymore from what I
40:45
Speaker 1: can tell. I think Maggie was also a little easy
40:47
Speaker 1: on Mahomes in the offense. Even K nine came out
40:49
Speaker 1: and said, eb is already on his case. Could this
40:52
Speaker 1: OC change be exactly what they need? I think one
40:56
Speaker 1: big point emphasis for the Chiefs moving forward is like
41:00
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be held accountable. Patrick was not. I know
41:03
Speaker 1: he tours ACL at the end of the year. He
41:05
Speaker 1: had a bad season relative to his standards. Like it
41:08
Speaker 1: just he didn't play well. And at this point in time,
41:11
Speaker 1: you know, is Andy's not wired like Belichick. He's not
41:15
Speaker 1: gonna rip his ass every single day. It's not his style.
41:18
Speaker 1: But you can bring in some reinforcements to kind of
41:20
Speaker 1: play the bad cop and he'd be that's just his
41:23
Speaker 1: natural that. There's a viral clip that always goes with
41:25
Speaker 1: him on Adrian Peterson after you know his rookie year,
41:29
Speaker 1: he Ap was one of the great running back prospects
41:32
Speaker 1: of all time. He was on his ass and I
41:36
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be like that with everyone on the offense,
41:39
Speaker 1: including Patrick. So yeah, I mean, I think it was
41:42
Speaker 1: very very strategic. You get a guy that's unafraid to
41:45
Speaker 1: piss people off but also love him up too, and
41:49
Speaker 1: I think they're comfortable with him because they know him,
41:51
Speaker 1: the players know him. I think there's also players don't
41:56
Speaker 1: mind getting yelled at if it's valid. You know, it's
41:59
Speaker 1: like the new generation. I actually was texting with an
42:02
Speaker 1: assistant coaching buddy the other day and he was like,
42:05
Speaker 1: the day and age of the dictator, like the true
42:07
Speaker 1: Belichick type dictator are done in this modern day age
42:11
Speaker 1: of the type players and the type people that the
42:14
Speaker 1: new generation. It's not really possible, especially with the money,
42:19
Speaker 1: but there is still a place to get on guys
42:22
Speaker 1: in college in the pros, and I think it's probably
42:25
Speaker 1: more likely with assistant coaches and head coaches kind of
42:29
Speaker 1: be not the easy one in the NFL, but they
42:33
Speaker 1: kind of play the father figure role of this whole operation,
42:36
Speaker 1: and clearly that's always the role Andy played, and I
42:39
Speaker 1: think eb he's gonna light guys up on offense, maybe
42:44
Speaker 1: not Kelsey as much, even though I don't think Kelsey
42:47
Speaker 1: would mind it, Like the Kelsey's been getting yelled at
42:50
Speaker 1: their whole career. I always get fired up in the
42:58
Speaker 1: group chat when a new episode drive fellow as golfer
43:02
Speaker 1: as well. Catch you at TPC. This is Jake. It
43:05
Speaker 1: looks like he's in a San Franco Giants uniform. I
43:09
Speaker 1: could play a little as a Vikings fan. Why shouldn't
43:13
Speaker 1: I be optimistic about the improved quarterback situation? KOC and
43:17
Speaker 1: b Flow are one of the top coaching duos in
43:19
Speaker 1: the league and somehow managed nine wins with the corpse
43:23
Speaker 1: of Wentz JJ and Max Brosmer forgot about him. Let
43:27
Speaker 1: me know your thoughts. I gotta miss in the playoffs,
43:31
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings take a major step back. Nature
43:34
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I'm definitely not picking them to
43:36
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. You went nine to eight, but you
43:38
Speaker 1: were also four and eight, and I think one your
43:40
Speaker 1: last five against the bad teams. So I don't see it.
43:46
Speaker 1: I don't see it at all. I don't think Kyler's good.
43:53
Speaker 1: I don't think Kyler's good. I think Carson Wentz falls apart,
43:56
Speaker 1: and obviously JJ is a disaster. So that your quarterback
44:00
Speaker 1: position is it improved that much? They were sure Kyler's
44:02
Speaker 1: any good because clearly Arizona thought Jacoby was way better
44:07
Speaker 1: by the end your comments on green Bay, look at
44:11
Speaker 1: who you who we lost Aside from Dobbs, it's additioned
44:16
Speaker 1: by subtraction Rashid Walker especially. They're making way for the
44:20
Speaker 1: first rounder Jordan Morgan to start at left tackle Arizona zone.
44:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if he grew up in Arizona, but
44:25
Speaker 1: he went to UFA. As long as Jordan Love on
44:27
Speaker 1: the Floor exists, they're going to be a playoff team.
44:30
Speaker 1: I would agree. I picked the Packers to make the
44:33
Speaker 1: playoffs every year, probably will do it again. Shit. I
44:37
Speaker 1: had him in the Super Bowl last year, and then
44:39
Speaker 1: Mike's ACL Tour and Tucker Craft's ACL Tour and my
44:44
Speaker 1: ticket went to shit, even though they actually still played
44:47
Speaker 1: the Bearrison. The Bears games those of my If I
44:51
Speaker 1: had to rank my top five games of twenty twenty five,
44:55
Speaker 1: all three Packer Bears games would be in the top five.
44:58
Speaker 1: They were television. I wonder if the Floor still lost
45:05
Speaker 1: sleep over that playoff loss. That hurts. Congrats on Jack
45:09
Speaker 1: new Dad. Myself son is ten months old. Definitely a grind.
45:13
Speaker 1: Grind would be an understatement if you had to rank
45:16
Speaker 1: four major professional leagues in order regarding which is best
45:19
Speaker 1: run league, where would you rank them? Trying to keep
45:21
Speaker 1: bias for your favorite sports out of it. NFL is
45:25
Speaker 1: for sure one. I feel like the NBA used to
45:27
Speaker 1: be the clear two with their growing popularity worldwide, but
45:31
Speaker 1: not so sure now. Baseball has done a great job
45:34
Speaker 1: with the pitch clock. NHL isn't for everybody, but hockey
45:37
Speaker 1: is growing in the Olympics or a huge deal. I'm
45:40
Speaker 1: not talking TV ratings and viewership, but more what leagues
45:43
Speaker 1: are more highly regarded just seem to matter more in
45:46
Speaker 1: today's sports world. I think the NBA could be in
45:49
Speaker 1: big trouble once Lebron, Curry, and Durant are done star
45:52
Speaker 1: driven league. I think the NBA was a clear number
45:56
Speaker 1: two because they had David Stern, and David Stern is wired.
46:00
Speaker 1: Like he was running the NFL. He was a fucking
46:04
Speaker 1: killer Adam Silver. He got a great television deal, but
46:08
Speaker 1: his leadership during the NBA has not been great. That
46:12
Speaker 1: the viewership loss, and it's not just viewership loss. The
46:16
Speaker 1: league does not culturally feel as power as popular as
46:20
Speaker 1: it once was, and they haven't created new stars after
46:25
Speaker 1: Lebron's Steph and to me, Lebron and Steph are in
46:27
Speaker 1: a different planet than Kevin Durant. I mean they are
46:29
Speaker 1: two of the most profitable stars in the history of
46:32
Speaker 1: the league. I mean they're on the list with like
46:35
Speaker 1: the Magics, the Birds and the Michaels and the Kobe's
46:37
Speaker 1: and the Shacks. They are cash cows. You couldn't pay
46:42
Speaker 1: me to watch, Okay, see, I guess you could, but
46:44
Speaker 1: the numbers have to be high if I'm gonna give
46:46
Speaker 1: you a Tuesday night. Like, I just don't find him
46:49
Speaker 1: very interesting. And I think I heard Nick Wright say this, Like, obviously,
46:52
Speaker 1: Shay's resume speaks for itself, but like, do I feel
46:55
Speaker 1: like I'm watching one of the greatest players of all time?
46:57
Speaker 1: I don't. He's an awesome player, their team's incredible. They
47:00
Speaker 1: do nothing for me. I think Basketball and Bay. I
47:05
Speaker 1: think it's this. The NFL is so head and shoulders
47:10
Speaker 1: above everyone else. It's not even comparable hockey because it's still,
47:15
Speaker 1: you know, more niche in this country. I'd have to
47:19
Speaker 1: put forth. Even though the NHL playoffs are incredible. My
47:23
Speaker 1: wife loves hockey. She grew up going to Sharks games.
47:25
Speaker 1: I turn on an NHL hockey game, I don't even
47:27
Speaker 1: know the guy's playing. It's the Minnesota play in Colorado.
47:31
Speaker 1: I'm glued. It's fantastic action. I would put that forth
47:36
Speaker 1: and then I would just say, depending on what's going on,
47:38
Speaker 1: If you told me Lebron and Steph were in the
47:40
Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals playing each other, basketball would be number two.
47:44
Speaker 1: If you tell me it's Spurs OKC. Like, like you said,
47:47
Speaker 1: don't factor in ratings, but it's just not going to
47:49
Speaker 1: be that culturally important. The NBA media is going to
47:52
Speaker 1: try to make it the web Be's next. I just
47:54
Speaker 1: don't believe you. I don't think he's going to matter
47:58
Speaker 1: the way that those guys internationally, you know that could
48:01
Speaker 1: factor in. These guys aren't from America. But I as
48:05
Speaker 1: long as the if the Dodgers and Yankees playing the
48:07
Speaker 1: World Series, it'll just be dramatically more important than the
48:12
Speaker 1: fucking Thunder playing the Pistons. So now if you tell
48:16
Speaker 1: me it's you know, the Knicks are in the in
48:20
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, we can have a different discussion. But
48:25
Speaker 1: they're very, very dependent on the markets. So is baseball,
48:28
Speaker 1: So I would put them similar buckets. Both make a
48:31
Speaker 1: lot of money. Both have really rich owners, both have
48:34
Speaker 1: really rich players. I enjoyed big games both, but I
48:43
Speaker 1: don't think in terms of cutting through the noise, the
48:48
Speaker 1: casual sports fan either as remotely as popular as it
48:52
Speaker 1: once was. I mean basketball ten years ago, in the
48:55
Speaker 1: peak of Lebron versus Steph I mean, just look at
48:59
Speaker 1: the ratings. You just felt more important. I remember being
49:03
Speaker 1: at events where people turn, you know, turn on Steph
49:07
Speaker 1: Curry against ok see Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook. I don't.
49:10
Speaker 1: I just don't think if I went to the same
49:12
Speaker 1: thing now, I would get that turn on Spurs versus
49:15
Speaker 1: the thunder like this is not happening. But I don't
49:20
Speaker 1: think you'd get that if you're saying the Twins are
49:22
Speaker 1: playing the Rangers now, if it's the Dodgers Padres in
49:25
Speaker 1: the first round like a lot of people are watching.
49:27
Speaker 1: If it's the Cubs verse, I almost said the Mets,
49:29
Speaker 1: they're terrible. So I think both leagues are in a
49:33
Speaker 1: similar world. They're kind of fighting for number two is
49:37
Speaker 1: honestly college football. College football is bigger than either one
49:41
Speaker 1: of those sports right now by a wide margin in
49:44
Speaker 1: terms of interest, especially when you factor in his connection
49:47
Speaker 1: to the NFL with the draft. I'm just a great example.
49:53
Speaker 1: I grew up watching everything. I watched every Giants game.
49:58
Speaker 1: I love the NBA. I never missed the TNT Tuesday
50:01
Speaker 1: and Thursday night games inside the NBA. I remember staying
50:04
Speaker 1: up late constantly in my twenties and thirties watching Chuck.
50:09
Speaker 1: I just don't do it anymore now. I'm I'm unique.
50:13
Speaker 1: I mean, this is you know, my business now is
50:15
Speaker 1: so heavily football and passion projects, doing golf stuff and
50:19
Speaker 1: watching golf. Get it, family, Your life changes. But it's like,
50:23
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have to watch those anymore.
50:27
Speaker 1: I've used this example all the time, like I'm not
50:29
Speaker 1: into dungeons and dragons. If you have dragons in your
50:33
Speaker 1: television show, it's probably not gonna be for me. But
50:38
Speaker 1: you know, what was the show? What the hell is
50:41
Speaker 1: the show? Almost? Game of Thrones? That's what I was.
50:46
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones felt so culturally important I felt I
50:49
Speaker 1: had to watch now. It had enough killing and sex
50:53
Speaker 1: and nudity. I was fine, But you're never gonna hear
50:56
Speaker 1: me say at a dinner party or you know, bs,
50:59
Speaker 1: it wasn't on the golf course. Game of Thrones my
51:01
Speaker 1: favorite show of all time. But I watched every episode
51:03
Speaker 1: because I felt like I had to. And that's how
51:06
Speaker 1: it used to feel. Like with the NBA, Kobe and Shaq,
51:10
Speaker 1: Kobe's latter years with Phil Lebron, Kevin Durant, Steph these
51:15
Speaker 1: guys don't feel I don't feel like I have to
51:17
Speaker 1: watch Victor women Yama, just like there aren't that many
51:21
Speaker 1: guys in Major League Baseball that I feel are that
51:25
Speaker 1: important that I have to watch. And that's when I
51:28
Speaker 1: think when I was a kid, Barry Bonds, like everyone
51:31
Speaker 1: watched and you can say it was steroids, yeah, cream
51:34
Speaker 1: and the Clear, but I think that plays a huge,
51:37
Speaker 1: huge impact on the way I look at it. Hey, John,
51:41
Speaker 1: my bald boyfriend named Luke doesn't have any socials that
51:43
Speaker 1: he wanted me to reach out to you. I'm gonna
51:46
Speaker 1: glaze you for a bit real quick. Then he says
51:49
Speaker 1: some compliments. I appreciate you, Luke. Question for the pod,
51:52
Speaker 1: do you think the NFL would ever consider a Super
51:54
Speaker 1: Bowl series? I know the NFL's the whole thing is scarcity,
51:57
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl is the biggest TV event on
51:59
Speaker 1: the planet, so maybe they risk diluting the product like that.
52:04
Speaker 1: But could you ever see them expanding to something like
52:06
Speaker 1: a short two of three series. No, because that's not football.
52:09
Speaker 1: Football is a one game scenario. It's like March madness.
52:13
Speaker 1: If college basketball ever won best of seven, we no
52:16
Speaker 1: longer have March madness. Just like the NFL playoffs, Like
52:20
Speaker 1: it's the wildcard round, you lose your gun, Jags lost
52:23
Speaker 1: the Bills. They go home and the Bills move on.
52:25
Speaker 1: You know, that's the Eagles. Like if it's the best
52:29
Speaker 1: at three, the Eagles probably beat the forty nine ers
52:31
Speaker 1: because the forty nine ers were dramatically under man and
52:33
Speaker 1: needed a double pass to Christian McCaffrey to win the game.
52:36
Speaker 1: But it was a one game scenario, Niners one. And
52:39
Speaker 1: that's what makes football so powerful, right, I mean, you
52:42
Speaker 1: saw it in the college football playoffs. It's it's really football.
52:47
Speaker 1: It's football secret sauce right now. One game a week,
52:51
Speaker 1: every game matters. The bigger the games get the mores
52:54
Speaker 1: on the line because there's no tomorrow like a baseball
52:56
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, lose Friday night, Well, I played
52:58
Speaker 1: the team Saturday and Sunday. What's your take on Russell Wilson.
53:01
Speaker 1: Some chatter him retiring going to a broadcast role. I'm
53:03
Speaker 1: a lifetime Bronco fan, and Russell Trader was one of
53:05
Speaker 1: the worst times of being a Bronco fan in my life.
53:08
Speaker 1: He was getting made fun of constantly with Denver and
53:09
Speaker 1: Sean Payton got sick of his shit, and everyone felt
53:12
Speaker 1: bad for us. I can't feel sorry for the guy
53:14
Speaker 1: paid around one hundred and forty million dollars a suck.
53:17
Speaker 1: I'm a little biased because I went to his games
53:19
Speaker 1: against the Niners in the in his heyday, and he
53:23
Speaker 1: was one of the more electric players I've ever seen.
53:27
Speaker 1: He was incredible and he owned them. So I was
53:30
Speaker 1: at these games. It's like he's having the best games
53:33
Speaker 1: of a season against them. It's like, this is one
53:35
Speaker 1: of the best players I've ever seen, and then he
53:37
Speaker 1: just falls off a cliff. Always a little weird that
53:41
Speaker 1: like Sherman and that crew never really liked him. I
53:45
Speaker 1: think I had to take the other day like I
53:47
Speaker 1: don't really understand television execs like I get Russell on television.
53:53
Speaker 1: He's a good looking guy, and part of TV is looks.
53:56
Speaker 1: You noticed the running a lot unlimited ugly people on television.
54:00
Speaker 1: Looking good on TV matters it's not radio, it's not podcasting.
54:05
Speaker 1: Most movie stars aren't fat and ugly, not saying there
54:09
Speaker 1: can't be James Gandalfeini was a star at Tony Right,
54:13
Speaker 1: and he as the season went on. I actually was
54:15
Speaker 1: watching season three the other night. It kind of bored,
54:18
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to watch. He gets bigger as the
54:20
Speaker 1: as the as the kind of sopranos goes. He actually
54:26
Speaker 1: isn't that fat. He looks pretty good like season one
54:29
Speaker 1: and season two, and Tony or Gandalfeini wasn't a battling guy.
54:34
Speaker 1: But I understand just Russell Wilson, he's famous. He looks
54:37
Speaker 1: the part. He's ever said a word, so he's gonna
54:39
Speaker 1: go on TV and say what like he was a
54:42
Speaker 1: cliche machine and players have said that's kind of how
54:45
Speaker 1: he talks when he's in the building. He's not a
54:48
Speaker 1: bad guy by any means, and I think people give
54:51
Speaker 1: him a lot of hate just because I don't know.
54:53
Speaker 1: It's easy to hate on people which listen you're a
54:57
Speaker 1: little bit more of a Some people are square, some
54:59
Speaker 1: people aren't. I think people would call me probably a nerd.
55:02
Speaker 1: Some of you guys listening are nerds about certain things.
55:06
Speaker 1: I just always really appreciate people that are authentic. We
55:09
Speaker 1: all can be different. But I hate people that I
55:12
Speaker 1: think are being fake. But then more and more people
55:14
Speaker 1: say that's not he's not fake, that's how he is.
55:16
Speaker 1: I thank god. This is a whole weird which is
55:18
Speaker 1: bad television. So my guess he probably goes into television.
55:24
Speaker 1: I do not think it's gonna go well though. Let's
55:27
Speaker 1: end on that one. We'll end on that one. We'll
55:29
Speaker 1: do a couple of male bad questions tomorrow after the
55:32
Speaker 1: schedule release, and yeah, good questions today. Still battling these allergies.
55:39
Speaker 1: I've never gotten allergies in my life. In this year,
55:43
Speaker 1: it's been brutal. I had so bad the other day.
55:46
Speaker 1: We didn't have any Kleenex. I was like wiping my
55:48
Speaker 1: nose with paper towels, like ripping my nose skin off.
55:54
Speaker 1: That's not a good idea to tell you that much.
55:57
Speaker 1: But it's just brutal. Not my son has a little
56:00
Speaker 1: running nose. So we're just we're just in chambles here.
56:02
Speaker 1: We'll just keep swinging our pick and we'll try to
56:04
Speaker 1: keep our head above the water and keep uh, keep
56:06
Speaker 1: moving forward. Audience, talk to you tomorrow. The volume m
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Speaker 1: HM