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From “Learing Centers” To Iran’s Turning Point, We Follow The Money And The Moment · The Elsa Kurt Show

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, hello guys.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: It is Elsa and Clay back after our hiatus.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_00: How are you, Clay?
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's good to see you.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: Finally.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it was an extended hiatus.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, uh, you know, Elsa and I spent two weeks, we've turned into three weeks, you know, the holidays and all, but uh we are back and it is January, and we are happy to be back with y'all for the first time.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: So uh Colin knows this, but I don't know if you guys know this.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm sure I've talked about it.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: But um, so as you all, I do know you know this.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um we of course go to Florida for Christmas.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what you don't know is that it's my second granddaughter's birthday on January 6th.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, J6.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's a J6 baby.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, right.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: Never never gonna forget that date, right?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I so my husband and I go for Christmas.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: We come back, we got back this time like on the 26th, and then I turn right back around and I go back.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh this time I went back on January 5th, the date for her birthday.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like such a quick, crazy turnaround.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm home for whatever that is, like 10 days, maybe nine days, I think, and then turn right back around and go back again.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: So um I knew that, but I also forgot that.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I I I messaged Clay and like, um, hey, I think we gotta add on one more week to our hiatus, or you can do a solo show.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then I think you got sick, right?
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: You were in the I did not get the super flu that's floating around.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um maybe I got like I got brushed by it, but um some folks in my family did have it, and I thought for sure I was getting it.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um I just had like a little maybe a small 24-hour bug kind of thing.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, I was definitely not in a position to do a solo show.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was a big old nope.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so um we had a little extra, a little extra pause there, but that's okay.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're back, we're refreshed, we are ready to roll.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, the you know, the news cycle did not stop on our behalf.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think that's very rude.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: The whole world should have just paused right along with us.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't everybody have loved that though?
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like if everything just stopped, what what would we do?
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: What would anybody do for the holidays?
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: If nothing else.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing else.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, it did not.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: As a matter of fact, in the meantime, while we were uh off enjoying our time or being sick, respectively, um, lots of things happen.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like the uh Somalia is as a place that before we started out, just Minnesota.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Just Minnesota went went up wild uh again, not the first time.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: But yes, uh Nick Shirley, right?
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's his name.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: Nick Shirley broke, he is an independent um journalist, independent young guy, independent journalist, pretty much single-handedly broke the story of the fraudulent Somali daycare daycare centers that should be in.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Where's my hand?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Here it is.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: That should be an aircraft.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Learing center.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: The leering center, yes.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: A forever meme going forward now.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: Everything is, you know, all about uh if you guys don't know what that means, the the more than one, but the one in particular, uh, this is supposed to be a a running, operating government-funded daycare center, and they misspelled learning.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: So learning center.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: That that that alone is enough to just make your eyebrows go really high up into your forehead.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yes, Minnesota ran large daycare, uh, large daycare subsidiary programs, investigations uh and reporting uncovered cases where some daycare centers, and it's you know, we we should make sure we say not all daycare centers, some daycare centers were billing the state for kids who weren't there, hours that didn't happen, or facilities that appeared empty.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, millions of taxpayer money may have been, I love the may have been misused, were misused.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's be real, were misused.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, millions and millions of dollars went into these fake daycare centers.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: And what does the left say?
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: What they always say, racism! You're racist for saying that.
• 4:33
  unknown: Yeah.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and and really what happened was this uncovered it, unlocked systemic fraud um mostly through this, not all, but mostly through the Somali communities, um, in in you know, Minnesota.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: And listen, folks, we all know the associated, you know, the people associated with this.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_01: Tim Waltz, Ilian Omar, like it's all the it's all it's all the same names.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but really naturally, and if you haven't seen the film footage, I'm sure most of you have, if not all of you, you know, he goes to this learing center, uh, opens the door, there's no kids there.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: There's clearly, I won't say never, but there clearly has not been kids there in a long time.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, him and the guy with him, they have, you know, they confront the the operators with uh, hey, there's supposed to be, you know, X amount of kids here.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Where are they?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: No kids there.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and as people dug into the fraud from the daycares, they unraveled a lot of fraud within the state of Minnesota, right?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: Again, mostly in the Somali communities, to the tune of over nine billion dollars, uh, I think was the latest uh that I saw.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, some of the great analysis that I have seen is that this is when we say systemic fraud, it's almost systematic fraud.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: And here's a great example.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got the daycares, right?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: But the example I saw was about health care.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got Somalis, um, you know, vast majority of the households are on government assistance.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and these are a lot of these are kids and people who have even they're second generation now, right?
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got a Somali-headed household, but they've got naturalized children born in the United States who speak English.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: These people actually, many of them do speak English, but when they go to a doctor's appointment, uh they suddenly do not speak English, right?
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, which requires the state now to call and move a hundred dollar an hour translator of Somali descent to the doctor's appointment, right?
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yep uh to translate for the person who actually does speak English.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they're now now it's a free healthcare appointment with a hundred dollar an hour translator, another Somali who's getting paid.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, by the way, the transportation system to get these people to and from the doctor's appointments also run by Somalis, right?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: And they're charging the state exorbitant rates to get people to these doctor's appointments, you know, and so on and so forth.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it's all this interwoven cultural fraud um that is being unlocked and uncovered across the state of Minnesota.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's insane how deep this thing runs.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's it is so insane.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: And we're, you know, we're just scratching the surface, and I can't even say we, I mean people like Nick Shirley and uh you know everyone else who who jumped on that essentially after or at the same time, whatever the case is, and just said, hang on, I'm I'm let me go check this out.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let me let me ask some questions, let me physically go there.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's kind of embarrassing in a way like that.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, this this is what it took.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have all of these resources, all of these people who are supposed to be doing, you know, within our own government that are supposed to be keeping an eye on things like this.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it took this independent journalist with you know no backing, nobody uh funding him, not that I'm aware of at least, um, just to literally go knock on the door and say, hey, what's up, guys?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: What you got going on here?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that is what blew this whole thing up.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, you know, what is again, what you know, my favorite question, what is the left do?
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: What is the left doing?
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know, this guy is getting death threats and his family's getting doxxed and all of these things.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it's you know, another extension of the constant madness that goes on that this is our money, like American taxpayer money, we're being robbed.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: And these lunatic liberals, because this is during the Trump administration, are angry about it.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you let those Somalis take all of our money, damn it.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: So crazy to me.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is, and it's so there are some good things that have come out of it, right?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Waltz is now no longer running for another term as governor, um, which he blamed on President Trump.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing having to do nothing that he did, yeah.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's President's Trump, President Trump's fault because he's targeting uh Tim Waltz.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's a good thing that he is.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: We we've now exposed uh the mayor of Minneapolis, um class A piece of garbage, um, and all of those things, right?
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: All of this is it's very apparent that this is being done for votes, it's paid for votes, uh conduct is is bringing that to light.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: But the other thing is that we're starting to have great examples because we have such there's such evidence of the fraud going on, right?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's this is not made up.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's just way too much evidence out there.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: But I saw on another podcast that I enjoy, and I don't know if you've ever seen these two ladies, but it's called Chicks on the Right.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: I love them.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love them.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're terrifying.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: I saw a little a little highlight from their podcast, and it was a man on the street interview, and I think it was in Southern California, right?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: It was definitely in a warm place.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they were just asking, hey, how do you feel about the some the Somali fraud in Minneapolis or in Minnesota?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: And these people were openly saying, Oh, I I think it's all a lie.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I I I don't think there's really anything there.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's all, you know, and so there are people who still are in an absolute state of denial, yeah, no matter what evidence is presented in front of them.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: It won't matter, it's all fake news to them, right?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: They will not believe it.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: And and so now we have like there is tangible evidence of CDS, because that's really what this is.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like we you can show somebody empirical evidence, accounting evidence, all of these things, and it really doesn't matter.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, it does not matter at all.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_01: So now we've got proof, you know, we've got proof that it's a real thing.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I think the only way, you know, I you just you literally cannot win because let's I mean, I listen, I could be I could be fair about this.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: If that were a left-leaning independent journalist who discovered this, who unearthed all of this, um, I I think it's probably fair to say that the right would say, you know, BS.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't know.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Would we?
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, something like this, if he uncovered that, uh, it's just not even something they would do.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's impossible to even imagine.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: They they would not uncover I I no, I I don't think we would, I don't think the right would.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: And and so here's why.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I have this discussion over and over again, right?
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: The reality of of the left is their reaction is scream racism, right?
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: Misogyny, sexism, whatever ism you they that is appropriate for the situation.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: So they'll throw an ism out there first, right?
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Then it will be protest and then it will become violence, right?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's no question.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: The right never escalates beyond an ism.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, we wouldn't, we definitely would never escalate the way that they do.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: I just mean that we wouldn't, if it was something coming from the left, would we believe it to be true?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think with the amount of empirical evidence, I honestly believe that most conservatives, rational people, would look at it and go, well, that's just effed up.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like and they and they would accept it as the truth.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: We've had now, there again, there would be some stereotypes, there would be some labeling, there would be all of those things that go along with it.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: But I think more readily the conservative side of the aisle will admit, no matter the source, as long as it is there's empirical evidence and it's not opinion, yeah.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Is much more accepting of that kind of information when it's backed up by facts.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I I like to hope so.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: I like to believe that's the case.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a little I'm a little salty here because of the whole Candace Owens thing, you know, because I I, you know, which is unrelated, obviously.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: There it's, you know, it's might be a little bit of apples and oranges here, but it I I mean it in the sense that, you know, because there is a a faction of the right that are, you know, just die hard Candace Owens fans.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't have a whole heck of a lot against her or her making money off of what she does, more power too.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it it's what she's been doing and how, in my opinion, that she's gone completely off the rails and you know doesn't back anything up with actual evidence or anything like that.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I've been making fun of her pretty hard.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I've been doing some parodies of her and all this.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: Just have a good time with it.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, people uh on our side have, you know, come out pretty aggressively, you know, in the comment section.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, wow, wow.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: So you're gonna just throw away any ounce of um reserve, I guess, um, or pause for thought, and you're just gonna go full rabid.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, and and again, I have no problem with people disagreeing with me.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me you disagree in the comments.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: There are plenty of people who just simply disagreed with me in the comments and and simply stated as much, like, well, I don't I don't agree with you.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're wrong, I think Candace is right, and I think she, you know, it's Alice Mans.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's some there's some people on the right that, you know, um have been, I won't say dubbed untouchable, but there are some that people will defend blindly.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I think Candace has a following like that.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think um Tucker has a following like that.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um Megan Kelly has a following like that.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, but you could also say the same thing, and you know I've taken a lot of heat about my stance on Secretary Higgs.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they come for you.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they do come after me.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it's because there's this level of blind loyalty.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I said I think with empirical evidence, not opinion, I think that the right is much more accepting to say, yeah, we we blew that one.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I will also say there is plenty of you know, defending the indefensible based on opinion.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: So um I don't think that you know either side of the aisle is better one way or the other based on opinion.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think just based on factual evidence, I think the right is much more accepting.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I I would absolutely agree with that for sure, definitely.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I it kind of, you know, geez, I mean, this probably could be just like one long episode just talking about everything in Minnesota, right?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: Everything that goes on there.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but my goodness.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: But I I I I have to say one more time, I am so glad to see Tim Walls take a hit here.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad to see that.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: Again, it's never gonna be enough until I see criminal charges.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not really gonna be happy about anything.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think that I speak for a lot of people when we're talking about this level of fraud and corruption and uh and all of those things.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, that's great that he's not gonna run again.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but where are the criminal charges?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, how about that?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Let's see that, please.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Come on now.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe we will, maybe we will.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's it it gets really hard to continuously hope for things that should happen and not see them happen.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: But um again, I also like to always say we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're not I know some people think that because we do this, we're like insiders, you know.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I somebody actually told me with that whole Candace Owen thing that that I'm you know, they they they bought me, they're paying me off.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm collecting a big fat page.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, somebody tell my bank account that news because you paid off.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Pay me off, do it, do it.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: I dare you.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, so this actually brings us pretty well into the next topic, uh, which is the case, the recent uh incident of um activist uh Renee Good uh and uh getting shot and killed by an ICE agent after um she basically tried to run them over, which obviously is hotly disputed between different factions.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I can't wait to hear your perspective on this.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh um I I'll tell you mine.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'll I I can't imagine nobody, you know, that there's somebody that doesn't know any of this, um, but just in case you don't, uh Renee Good encountered ICE agents during a federal operation in Minnesota.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Video shows her vehicle making contact with an ICE agent.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Federal officials say the agent was struck and injured.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: In response, the agent fired his weapon, killing her.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um this was not a traffic stop.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: This wasn't a misunderstanding.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: This was a a professional agitator purposely blocking legal, uh, authorized federal agents from doing their job.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: Her entire purpose, along with other people, for being in that location that day was to disrupt, distract, and and cause absolute chaos and stop federal agents from doing their job, which their job, by the way, is to be there to remove illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens from the area and send them back where they came from or put them in jail, whatever the case is.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's what they were there to stop and disrupt.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: She was told on video, there is multiple videos out.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: She was told by multiple agents multiple times to move her vehicle, to get out of the way.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: She mocked them, her wife standing outside the car, which I don't know why she was outside the car, uh filming them, getting right up in their face, uh, which they can record, of course.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: They can you can record um agents, uh police officers doing the job.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, however, you can't impede their work.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: You can't become a hazard or problem.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, they were being um verbally abusive, mocking them, all of those things.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: All of that, you know what?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Fine, not fine, but you know what I mean.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um fine, do do the things, but you also need to comply with direct orders.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, she did not, she had her car.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: The video shows that you know her car is is parked uh blocking the roadway.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, she did that deliberately so that they could not get by.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why they're telling her to move, get out of the vehicle, uh first move, and then I think they uh told her get out of the vehicle because she was obviously about to be arrested.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: The wife yells, uh, drive, baby, drive, at which point um she so here's where I think everybody is like contesting it.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like she so she did back, she backed up a little bit and then hit the gas pedal.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what the are what people are arguing about is the the direction the wheels are facing as she goes forward.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: But what people are also missing is that the tire is spinning, she's spinning on ice.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: So she she hit that gas pedal pretty good.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um and the wheels spun.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Now, did that make the wheels turn?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: Was she trying to?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what she was trying to do.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: What matters here is that the federal agent who was in front of the car or front to the side of the car, he wasn't like dead center of that.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: At that point, he had started to move over to the side, um, at which point.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's when the Ford momentum happened.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: She hit him.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is proven now from his own camera release.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: He was hit because that was disputed as well.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: They said that, you know, she didn't hit him.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: She was trying to drive away, blah, blah, blah.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: He was struck.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: At which point, the moment that vehicle starts coming towards you as a federal agent, you are within your right to stop the threat.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because now it's become, now the vehicle is a weapon.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: She's using the vehicle as a weapon, or it's being perceived that the vehicle is being used as a weapon.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's important to point out too, whether her intention was to use it as a weapon or not isn't necessarily relevant here.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: It is the perceived threat, not only to the officer, but to anyone around him.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it is his job to protect himself and others.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so he shot, struck her.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Her car continued on the obvious thing.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think she may have been, you know, maybe she died immediately.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: But the car kept going, struck another vehicle.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's that.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, all of the aftermath.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, cars are a deadly weapon.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, guys.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it was being used as a threat, as a deadly weapon.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: And none of this would have happened if she had been home with her kids that day, or at work, or having a coffee in a cafe, or just living a normal freaking life instead of inserting yourself into something that had nothing to do with you.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's my opinion.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: People don't like it.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, this was a very this entire thing was clouded from the very beginning.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: And and both sides of this, you know, incident are are kind of guilty.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: And when I say both sides, I'm not talking about her versus the ICE agents.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about, you know, the conservative versus liberal uh perspectives, right?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: So this happens, you know, and then we we get one camera angle.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: That camera angle, you know, showed a an ice officer trying to open the door.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you couldn't see the the officer who got shot or the officer who got hit with the vehicle from that initial uh camera angle.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Then we got another camera angle, which was from, you know, it seemed like an apartment building.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: You could see the angle right in front of the car, which you know, it did look like she missed him, um, or he tried to jump out of the way.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then so as all of this evolved, right?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: You had the video releases of all kinds, you had another one taken from an apartment.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And this is the three-minute and 30-second video, which is so important to the context of everything that happened.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because there was a narrative that she was on her way to a doctor's appointment.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: There was the narrative that she was just out running errands, there was the narrative that she was just trying to get out of the way.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: There were all of these things.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: And in reality, as you said, she parked her SUV, whatever it was, perpendicular on a residential street backed on one side by parked cars, and she had been sitting there for three minutes.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: That that throws all of the outrunning errands, doctor's appointment, trying to get out of there.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: All of those narratives died immediately as soon as that um that perspective, that camera angle came out.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, some of the ice vehicles went around her because she couldn't block the entire thing.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: However, she was impeding the speed at which they were trying to execute the operation that they were on.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: So there's problem number one.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: But you're right.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: As you know, ICE agents approached, they told her to move, they told her to get out.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: People, you know, vehicles went around her.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then finally, you know, you had the agents get out of their vehicle, her window was open.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, the we got the body camera footage where he got out, she talks and smack to him.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: He walks around the back of the vehicle, her wife is there with the cell phone, you know, talking about the license plate.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: She actually even said in there were vets or I'm a vet or something like that, trying to say that she's a veteran.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: There's no record of her service of any kind of anywhere.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then he comes around the other side of the vehicle.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: Eventually they tell her to get out of the out of the vehicle.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: And in the meantime, you've got a couple of agents moving in and around, and one of them stepped in front of the vehicle, right?
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: And that's when drive, baby, drive, right?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and she hit gas and she hit the agent, um, which we now release today, found out that he had internal bleeding from being struck.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: So this was not a miss or even a near miss or even a bump or a rub or any other adjective that you want to use.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: Got hit by a vehicle.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he discharged his weapon to protect himself and everybody around him, and he shot.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, then there were narratives that followed about her past and her wife's past.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: There's you've probably seen this.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: There was a criminal record sheet, totally fabricated.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Right, folks.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: For anybody who thinks that that stuff is okay or a good idea, you're not helping.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and that came from the conservative side of things.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: That you're not by fabricating a wrap sheet that doesn't exist for this woman, you're not helping things.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, let the facts be the facts, period.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: This and as as this has unraveled and we've seen more camera angles and all of these things, it's all there.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: The ICE officer did what he was supposed to do.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: There is nothing, you know, and there's people who've tried to say, oh, well, Minnesota signed a statute, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: I looked it up myself.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: The things that were quoted in the statute were not in the statute, right?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, there are narratives on both sides that are counterproductive to what is going on.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, our concerns should be one for the ICE agent, uh, two, and that follow-up his family, the safety of his family, because we know the doxing and everything else that comes out, right?
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the agent's name was released again, a form of not by DHS and not by ICE, but by somebody else.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so there's that.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: We we need to be concerned about um Renee Good's children for their welfare and well-being.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I honestly, you can say all you want about her, her ex-husband, the reason they divorced.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't care, right?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: That truthfully, in the moment of what happened, is completely irrelevant.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: Is she a paid protester?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Is her and and her wife also a paid protester?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Are they agitators as people?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: Should they have been there?
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: The reality is, is this is a series of bad decisions that put her in a position that got her killed.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: What we collectively as human beings need to worry about are the fact that no one in her circle of friends or family looked at her and said, Stop doing this.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: No one looked at her and said, You have children that you are responsible for, at least one, right?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: We know that there's there's three.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's the story I've heard.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: She has you know custody of one, the other two are some around, whatever.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but no one around her looked at her and said, You are gonna get yourself or someone else hurt or killed.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: And she is just an example of that.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: You can take that and you can lay that on every single one of these paid protesters.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you are gonna get yourself or someone else hurt or killed.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Please stop doing this for your safety, for everyone else's safety.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but no one is saying that.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that societally, you know, in society, that is part of the problem.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's that these people, and it makes me wonder like, was her circle of friends one an echo chamber of just people just like her, or was it just her lunatic spouse?
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, was there no one else in her circle to tell her this is a horrible idea?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you just use um just the photos that they've presented, you know, if you just look, if you look at it as a as a timeline in a way, sure, you know, and you see this drastic appearance change in someone.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: And we're not talking about just simply aging, we're not just talking about getting older.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about a drastic appearance uh change in someone.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: So something has happened in in this period of time from the time, you know, the picture that they are using constantly, which I I think was uh like uh she might have been pregnant with the one of her kids uh in the photo, but it's like a beach photo, and she looks very normal, very relaxed and happy and normal, right?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the you know photo that they're running with, the media is running with, and the left is running with because why are they using that one?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because she looks normal, she looks she looks like somebody's mom, you know, nice lady, probably going to pick her kid up from soccer.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's what she looks like, right?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that picture, but then you see the the images and the stills in the video from that day and um recent pictures of her from her own social media that people mind.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and you see a very, very different looking woman there, someone who does not look okay, does not look like she's feeling good about life and things.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, this is that uh sorry guys, but this is your the prototype of the radical liberal white female of the 2020s, you know.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh this is what they look like if the hair isn't blue or if the you know septum isn't pierced or there isn't 500 tattoos, and I love tattoos, I'm not mocking tattoos at all.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but there is a whole vibe that they all seem to have, and that's what she has.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm really dispassionately curious about, you know, just kind of conversationally curious.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not gonna delve into it.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but man oh man, what happened between then and now to make you the way that you are?
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's not okay.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe it's something to do with this woman, this wife that she, you know, got involved with, and you know, maybe that was the start of this radicalization.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: I I just know, and I talked about this yesterday.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: I did a little solo, um, little mini solo podcast play I did uh yesterday.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I put that in the whole the whole topic was uh liberal white females and and the you know the behaviors and the mentality and the reasoning behind uh why they do what they do.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: And and it kind of comes down to, you know, in my mind, it comes down to like we were designed for purpose, you know, to not only on purpose, by purpose, um, to have purpose in life, to have meaning and to be focused on something of meaning in our lives.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: And traditionally, our focus, particularly as females, is to um, you know, be nurturers, to raise families, to have children and to be a part of something bigger than ourselves, which is the raising of children and caring for our families and all of those things.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, now in modern society, this culture tells you all of the things that are what were once very normal to do and biologically normal to do, are now offensive, insulting, boring, useless, you know, impractical, whatever, and inconvenient.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: All of the all of the things that nature tells us, um, society culture is saying is wrong and bad, no good.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: So you have these people who are, you know, either not having kids or not putting them at the value level of where we would have once upon a time.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so what do they do?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: They need purpose, they need a cause, they need something to believe in, they need something to be passionate about.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: So they take on these activist roles, and now they have to be like the caretakers of morality.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like everybody's morality is their responsibility, and they go to these psychotic, unhealthy extremes, uh, extremism.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: And this is a direct result of that mentality, of that type of directionlessness and and uh grounding.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: There is no grounding, and this is what you get.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: And now you see like the aftermath of this whole like litany of deranged liberal white females.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: I I, you know, I don't know.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: I I feel like they just keep proving my point over and over.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, you're you're 100% right.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's I I've seen it, you know, across social media, you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of times, and it's and it's really come to light even since like you know, Ukraine flags in the front yard.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, the the sentiment that's re repeated is you know, the most dangerous thing in America is a college-educated suburban white woman in her 40s.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's the because that's where so much of this comes from.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and if you look in the crowds of protesters, that is the just by the eye, right?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not talking any studies, nobody's taking polls, but if you just look at the the protesters across, you know, uh, you know, wherever, and it doesn't matter, it's not just Minnesota, it's LA, it's New York, it's everywhere, but what you perpetually see are white women.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: And when you narrow it down, that's in their somewhere in their you know, mid 30s to you know to maybe even 60, right?
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: That is the demographic that we continue to see.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, alongside and the only males that you see with them out there processing protesting are low-man bonds, yeah, oh yeah, low T right, low T um oh god, yeah, low T beta males, school boys.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the um, you know, the picture thing is an old tactic, right?
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I've this has been going on, you know, if you live in any near or around any major metropolitan area where there's gang violence, right?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a Chicago area kid, you will always see, right, when a young man is killed in a violent way due to crime.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a great example, right?
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you see the graduation picture, right?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: You see the picture from you know when they were 11, and then you find out that they were 17, that they're now 17.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: But but it's this very like the most innocent looking photo they can find.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then inevitably, not long after, another photo surfaces of the individual, and it is the stereotypical gangbanger, right?
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's all of those things, but everybody wants the sympathy shot first, which is the picture that you're talking about with with Renee Um Good, you know, and and that's what you get.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: You get the hot, the happy, the suburban mom, the right, you know, the makeup and and all these things.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: But then you see her sitting in the car and you're like, is that is that even the same person?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and there's your hypocrisy too, right?
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like they know, they know damn.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: They know exactly that that picture is not gonna garner the sympathy they know, you know, yeah.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, really the the ice agent is recovering.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I'm sure that him and his family are gonna go into some sort of protective custody.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, their life is gonna be uprooted if he chooses to continue to work for the uh for the organization, which I assume he will.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, by the way, this is the second time that he's been hit by a vehicle in the last week.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he was uh pretty banged up.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, if he chooses to stay uh working for ICE as an agent, you can almost guarantee that his family is going to be picked up and moved, they will be relocated, uprooted, all of those things for their own protection.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, because that's where we're at right now.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so, you know, you can you can point fingers and place blame, and you can say President Trump and Tom Homan and Christy Noam and and you know Bondy and you blame everybody that you want.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: The reality is that that woman made a series of bad decisions that put her in a place that she didn't need to be.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this wasn't civil disturbance, this wasn't civil disobedience, this was actively uh agitating and interfering with an ongoing investigation and then assaulting an officer, which responded, which you know ended in her being shot.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: So point all the fingers you want.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: You can, I mean, we can we can all play the same game, and you can blame it on President Biden.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: You can blame it on the you know, this if the Somali community hadn't been rife with fraud, that wouldn't, you know, that would is a contributing factor.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um but it but you know, this is about personal accountability.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't like the FAFO, like it's being overplayed, but but this is about personal accountability.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: And that woman made a series of bad decisions where no one stepped in and told her it was a bad idea and it got her killed.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, in today's day and age, she is the last person that's being blamed.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, she shouldn't be the first.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, absolutely zero, like you said, zero personal accountability here.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and also, like you said, to your point, you if if we're gonna be playing this long list of blame game where you deflect it to everyone else, I mean you then you've got you know, go all the way back to the beginning of creation.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: That, you know, that's if you want to play that game, give me a break.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Ultimately, um, had she not made those decisions, this would have never happened.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: It could not have happened because she wouldn't have been in a position um for that to happen.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: And that is not victim blaming because she's not a victim.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: She's an agitated.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes for making bad decisions.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I and I don't and I I stay true to my word.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get into it in the comment section with people, but one glance at those comments section tells you, you know, how many people have no idea whatsoever how um law enforcement acts in response, like they don't understand the protocols of what happens and and any incidents like these.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I love the well, they couldn't shoot the tires out, or they couldn't just do oh just stop, just stop.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: You just sound silly.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: You just do that movies.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, yeah, exactly.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Not the movies, guys.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: Real life, real life, real people, real split second split second decisions are being made.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and if you ask me when you look at it through that lens, uh a split second decision when you see a how how heavy your car is like I yeah, 3,000.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was gonna say 2,000 pounds, but yeah, it's so in that range.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's a weapon.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:24
  unknown: Yeah.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Simple as that.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: But uh oh my goodness.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about Bill and Hill.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about Bill and talk about lack of personal accountability.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: How about that?
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: They're the poster children for that, right?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, as usual, um, they seem to always get away with stuff.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you're Bill and Hill, uh subpoenas are apparently optional.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: We'll just ignore that.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: We'll just ignore that.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna show up because we don't think we have to, right?
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, House Oversight subpoenaed Bill and Hillary Clinton in an Epstein-related inquiry, they declined.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: They declined to comply, calling the subpoenas political and illegitimate.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and Republicans are now discussing uh contempt proceedings.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I you know, it that last part just annoys the daylights out of me.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: It goes right back to what we were talking about before.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, uh, what's gonna happen?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, really, what's gonna happen?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're just gonna shake their finger at them.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: The um the Clintons broke the system.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and and the system was for decades that a president left office uh and and went back to their life.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: They offered advice and counsel to sitting presidents, right?
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: There was a very small club of living former presidents who were always available to whoever the current president was, uh, because who else do you go to, right?
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, there's not a lot of people that can advise you.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: So um, when you left office, you left quietly, um, you generally remained out of politics um and and were there for counsel if asked, um, and remained at the service of the nation.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: If required, right?
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: President Carter is probably the most famous former president who on a number of occasions stepped into diplomatic scenarios to offer some help, some actual help, regardless.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when the Clintons left office, and mostly because of Hillary, um, Secretary Clinton, when they left the White House, it was under a flurry of, you know, like remember, they popped all the W's off of the keyboards and they glued stuff, and it was really their staff was terrible.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: But she's, you know, they were not allowed to leave the political world because she was stepping into it.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so by default, President Clinton remained relevant in the political world and remained a voice that people went to uh while President Bush was in office.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, President Bush, truthfully, when he he did spend, you know, probably the first year or so blaming President Clinton, and then 9-11 happened, and then it really didn't matter anymore.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and so he spent the next seven years, you know, engrossed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and then he left.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then the Obamas came in, right?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then the Obamas spent their entire administration blaming the Bushes, which didn't allow them to leave the public eye.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: There was always this reference back to the Bushes.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then President Obama, more so than anybody as he left office or after he left office, has remained politically relevant and in the system.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so, you know, when the Mar-a-Lago happened, I wrote about this.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: You and I have talked about this before.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: They opened Pandora's box because when you were a performer president and you left office, essentially everyone left you alone.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you left everybody alone, they left you alone.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: You were given this presidential kind of buy, like just leave them there, whatever happened during their administration, just leave them alone.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then Mar-a-Lago happened.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: And so Pandora's box was opened.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: And as soon as that happened, the Clintons became a primary target for every conservative.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, mostly because they broke, they were the ones who broke the system.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and then now you've got this.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: And they are literally thumbing their nose at the American government.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: They have been subpoenaed, related to Epstein, and they basically said, No, we're not doing that.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: We don't care, you know.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um can you imagine if you or I did that?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, thanks.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: I declined.
• 42:32
  unknown: Yeah.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: I oh, subpoena for court?
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not going to feel like it.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_01: So the you know, I I was asked why, why they would just not show up.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: And here's the two things.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: One, if they showed up, they would lie, right?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: So they would be put under oath and they would lie.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: And Bill's already been, you know, found in you know, perjury, right?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's happened, perjured himself before.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, she has also perjured herself before, right?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: So they're not above that.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: So bringing them in, and even if they showed up, it would be perjured, guaranteed, because they're admitting nothing.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and if they sat up there and they plead the fifth, it looks terrible anyway.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: So they're certainly not going to come willingly.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: And so the opposite is we're just not coming.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they're they are forcing the current administration to come to the house with U.S.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_01: marshals to arrest them.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_02: So crazy.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: And now they're and now that makes them martyrs.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a genius play by the Clintons.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: They, you know, they they have taken the path that makes them, even though it's completely illegal, that makes them potentially look the best in the outcome.
• 43:38
  unknown: Right.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, sure.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Not nothing more, um, you know, for the left, at least in this case, uh, nothing more heartstring pulling than to see these two elderly people being let out in handcuffs, you know, and they're, you know, sad, like, what faces?
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I mean, I don't care.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: I would I would I would applaud.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: But but it needs to happen, right?
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: It it does.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I think it absolutely does need to happen.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean bring the cups, bring them out.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, President Trump is indicted, right?
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: He got he got all so no one was.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like we there's, you know, he's hanging up in the I think in the Oval Office his mugshot, right?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like he hung that thing up proud, you know.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um it it absolutely has to happen.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: They are making a mockery, they are thumbing their nose.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and that's just a big fat number.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: You are criminals.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: You are as criminal as they get, and more so than we will ever know.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: No matter what comes out, we will never know all of it.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, just it's just the case.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, and I think everybody's really tired of these sort of congressional hearings, to be honest.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think everybody has like fatigue over these things because nothing happens.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: They show up, you know, even when they do show up, right?
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the problem is nothing happens afterwards.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: There no one gets arrested, no one gets in criminal court.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: They just they testify in front of Congress, and that seems to be the end of it, right?
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I I don't really understand that.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: So, what is exactly the point of these, other than to just put on a show, waste everybody's time and tax dollars because you know it's costing us money for this to be going on.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: All these investigations, the the years spent on these investigations, the dollars that go into these investigations, and for them to just I don't know.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can't even call it like a public embarrassment anymore because they still don't care.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: They sit up there and go, I do not recall.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't recall, and that's it.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then they go home, they go on their yacht and they go on vacation and they, you know, collect their uh insider trading stocks, money, and have a good old time.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like the consequence, damn it.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: If it was very much in the same vein of President Reagan, who when he testified I ran contra, right, and and said, I do not recall, he really didn't because he was in a mental decline.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: If you put Joe Biden on the stand right now and he said, I don't recall, I would believe him because he probably he probably doesn't.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, but President Obama, President Clinton, President Bush, right?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: They they there's no evidence of decline mental faculties, you know, those kinds of things.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, uh President Clinton, uh, you know, we all we most of us dislike his wife, Secretary Clinton.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_01: She is she is politically criminal.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think he is like he is criminal, criminal, code criminal.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like we we all know the multiple affairs, the sexual assault, all of those things.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like that is President Clinton's personality, and there's enough evidence out there that we all kind of know it.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um but but Secretary Clinton, Hillary Clinton is the one who truthfully is the most dangerous uh in criminality.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're talking international espionage, federal level, election tampering, like all of those things.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly think at this point in their lives, Bill just sits there and he just does nothing.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um she is the one who is is the the actual problem.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they can't be allowed to say no to Congress.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like this is not a thing, especially after what happened to President Trump.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if they let this go, if they let this happen, um, then that that is the opening for everyone to just simply refuse, just to say, nope, no, thank you, decline, fight.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: So they're going to have to be made an example of.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, and let's face it, no matter what, the other side is gonna have something to say.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: So if you don't do it, they have something to say.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you do it, they have something to say.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: So just do it.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: Just do it because it doesn't matter, you know.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I I'm I'm gonna make a prediction, and I know you love my predictions.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there will be a former president buried in Arlington by the end of summer, and he will never testify.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there will be a cardiac event.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: Folks, I'm telling you right now, this is Clay Novak.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not threatening anyone.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I made sure that's clear.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Just I'm being very clear.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, right.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: All I am saying is that Bill president, former president Bill Clinton, his his health status right now is suspect enough, right?
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: We all know we've all seen him, he looks terrible.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, this will he will never testify.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I will tell you that his health will either rapidly decline or there will be a sudden event uh that makes it incapable of him testifying, and then uh he will eventually die by the, you know, before he ever testifies.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah and uh Secretary Clinton will use that as a Heisman uh to prevent her from testifying, uh, et cetera, et cetera.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: But uh that is my prediction, ladies and gentlemen.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_00: It would not surprise me.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: It would not surprise me at all.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so the only thing I can hope for based off of that is to see uh on the stand, fighting for her for life, so to speak.
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_00: Don't know if it'll happen.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: At this rate, you know, I have such low expectations of seeing any of these things actually happen, but one can hope.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: One can hope.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_01: One can hope, yes.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: One can hope.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: All right, let's talk about a fun one.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, is it fun?
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's I mean, yes and no.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: We've got uh we've got our current president who uh flip the bird, flip the bird, and I go, but listen, I'm seeing this from all angles, I'll be honest.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_00: I see this from all angles.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: My you know, my knee jerk, my gut quick reaction.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: If you were to ask for that one, I would say um would be to kind of go, well, I mean, yeah, the guy was calling him a pedophile and shouting out all kinds of garbage, trash talking at him and everything.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: And and you know, he dropped the nephew and uh the one-finger salute.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: What's that?
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_00: Twice.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Twice.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, and um, and did what any any of us would have probably done in the same circumstance.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Now I get it.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: The other side of that, which I also agree with, by the way, uh, is that we would like to see more decorum from the leader of our country.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we would like to see more self-control and reserve and and all of those things.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh am I going to admonish him for this?
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm gonna pass.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think I'm gonna pass on the admonishment, even though my core uh does have a preference for a certain type of behavior, but you know, I don't I mean, you do you're a human being and you uh you get to a point, yeah, you know, this is a guy as a human being.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: This is a guy who is a father, he is a grandfather, um, he is the president of the United States, and to to get constantly assaulted with these kind of vile, disgusting accusations and attacks, and not even just on a daily basis, on like a minute basis, like every minute of every day, somebody is excuse me, people, but somebody's MFing him to his face.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so there he is not given an ounce of respect.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and there does come a point where you're kind of like, I'm I'm not, you know, somebody's screaming this at me.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm not gonna give you, you know, respect or grace for it.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead, Clay, go ahead and correct me.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not I'm not gonna correct you.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, I I'm not a fan of this.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: I I I've never I've said this since the last administration.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: I would like him to act better.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: However, I I'm gonna go different than I normally do.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: There are two things about this.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: One, communication to the audience in the way that the audience is gonna receive your message is very important.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: You're talking to a factory full of auto workers in Detroit, because that's who this was.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sometimes you have to speak their language, which is exactly what he did.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: He did look at a guy, a blue-collar guy, uh, you know, a U probably a UAW union guy.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, if he's in an auto in an auto plant in in Michigan, um and he used language that those those individuals use on the floor of a factory uh in a on a minutely basis, right?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um so he got he sent the message, um, you know, and he used it in the you know, used the language that it was appropriate for the audience.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um again, I would be for that he doesn't, but in this case, I think it was the right thing to do.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: The thing that I wish would have happened was that the rest of the folks around that guy would have turned around and and fixed it themselves.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because again, we are in this, you know, you can't do anything, you can't touch anybody, you can't like this is a course correction for that individual that needed to happen from his peers.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: There needed to be six guys around him that turned around, two guys grabbing him by the arms and one guy punching him in the face, and then the other two guys grabbing his legs and dragging him out of there.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what should have happened.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, and I think that those are the things that we need to see more of.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: We need to go back to that.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: Instant, like, here's karma.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh here's target feedback, as we like to call it, right?
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know that you struck gold when you get that kind of feedback.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: But that's what I mean.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, somebody's gonna pop that guy in the mouth.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I know there's repercussions.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_01: I did see right before we started recording, um, I think that guy has been fired or at least suspended at work.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm okay with that too.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's not conduct that any company would want representing them.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm okay with that.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: But I really wish that somebody standing next to him, some other blue-collar dude in jeans and a t-shirt, would have turned around and you know, and busted his lip for him and told him to shut the F up himself.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I in this singular case, I I'm giving the president a pass.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I think we I think we were both very fair uh about how we presented that.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um because I think you know, we agree on that.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: We we absolutely agree on that, that you know, there's certain expectations that we would like to have, but you know, we are we are living in a very different um time.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: This is just a totally different uh space and time that we're living in when you know it it's not just you know, and and I really don't want to hear particularly, especially from anyone on the left talking about, you know, the expectations of the leader or the blah blah blah.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to hear from you when your party says the most vile, disgusting, offensive things every single day, literally swearing uh on the camera.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, it at least he didn't have a mic on him and wasn't shouting it into a microphone.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: That was like a, you know, in exchange caught on camera um because of who he is and who they are and what was going on.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it wasn't like a hot mic moment, uh, like you know, Jasmine Crockett telling everybody F you.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't you just tell the Supreme Court to F off?
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: I yeah, you know, I think I don't even know if it was from it, it's one of them.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, so give me a break.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't want to hear any, you know, posturing from them that uh that they're shocked and appalled or anything like that.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: Don't care.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: Try more.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna talk about Iran, folks.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is kind of the last topic we're gonna cover in this show.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, there's the regime, there is a regime change coming.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so for those of you that don't know the history of it, you know, 19 prior to 1979, Iraq was or Iran, pardon me, was a very westernized, modern uh country that was not an Islamist-based Islamic republic.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: They had a monarchy under the Shah, uh, who there was a youth movement in 1979.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_01: I know that sounds weird, but they were hard-line Muslim youth movement that overthrew the government, threw the Shah out of the country.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: He died shortly thereafter in Egypt.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they installed the Ayatollah, the supreme leader, quote unquote religious leader, with a communist, although they claim democratically elected government.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: What's happening now, uh 45 years later, is that everything is the script is being flipped.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_01: There is the Iranian people are tired of Sharia law.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: They are tired, most of them, I think the last number I saw was 78%, do not want an Islamic republic of any kind as their government.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want a religious-based government of any kind.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: They're actually, you know, completely fine with going back, having the prince come back and has re-established the monarchy.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there is there are protests going on in Iran right now, for those of you that haven't seen it on the news.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: I have a someone I consider a friend.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: I I worked with her when I worked on uh season three of Reacher on Amazon.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: She was uh one of the in charge of really all the sets and set designs.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um and she reached out to me a few days, well, a week ago, maybe a little longer, asking some questions, some military questions about things going on both in Venezuela and Iran.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: And she is Iranian.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh her family, she's the most family living in Iran underneath and participating in all of this.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: So her and I have been back and forth, and it's been a great perspective uh for me to hear and see the things that she's saying or that she's getting from her family.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_01: I will tell you just off the top, the one that caught me most off guard was when they tell you how many fatalities there have been.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um she said quadruple it.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh when and then and this was at a time when they said it was 45 to 50.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_01: She said it's easily 200.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so there's that going on that we're not seeing Iran shut off all of the internet access specifically to block out the West.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: They do not want news cameras, they do not want information coming out.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I know Musk tried to put some Starlink in there, but um, I I would tell you that those folks that either received it or are putting it in place are putting their lives at risk.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because if the Iranian government finds out about it, it's not gonna be, hey, we're gonna confiscate that.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um they're gonna confiscate people's lives for that stuff.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_01: But really, folks, what we all need to know and understand is that Iran, when this regime change happens, and I think, I think very reluctantly, the U.S.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: should be involved with this.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think the intelligence community, CIA, and some others should be, if they're not already actively involved with this.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: But we are gonna see a significant turn in the Middle East.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: When this goes to a non-theocratic, a non-religious based, uh democratic, even if it's a monarchy, when you see Islam leave Iran, you're gonna see a drastic change across the Middle East.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I would imagine it would start a whole chain reaction, right?
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if they can do it, you know, that mentality of if they can do it, we can do it.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so what's what's been going on since truthfully since the Shah was deposed and since there's been this massive Islamic movement, is what we're seeing in Europe, right?
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_01: We're starting to see, you know, this radicalization of all of the migrant Muslims that have moved out of the Middle East and moved into Europe.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: UAE just the other day said we are no longer paying for residents of UAE to go be educated in the UK because we are afraid they are going to be radicalized in the UK and then come back to the UAE as radical Muslims.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: And they're so the Middle East is turning, right?
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_01: There's one of the, I think it's one of the princes of Saudi Arabia has gone to Christianity, right?
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_01: So you're starting to see these things, whereas the last 50 years you've seen a Rapid declining Christian population in the Middle East.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know Iraq had a Christian population.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's all but gone.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_01: Egypt had it all but gone, right?
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: But you're seeing a rapid rise in Christianity in Iran right now with this regime change.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I think you're going to see some instability.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think you are gonna see a non-theocratic first one uh you know nation in the Middle East in a long, long time.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think it's gonna be a great change for everybody.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: Can somebody get the memo to the liberal white females, please?
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody needs to let them, yeah.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, find me some, you know, some uh support Iranian citizen flags in suburban front yards.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_01: If you find those, please take a picture.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna find any.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna find any of those.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: Why, why would you?
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: They, you know, these, you know, these are the people who marched, you know, a couple months ago for no kings, and they're supporting a literal dictator.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, it's a little major, of course.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_01: Iran, it's drawing.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: And Iran, of course, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: I told it, it's a same thing.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, same thing, same thing.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: So wait, wave your wave your little flags of the of the day, of the week, and without any actual knowledge, right?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: That that's a that those are people that need help.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_01: They need funding, they need military intervention, they need, and President Trump has said it.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: If they are killing protesters and there's evidence of it, the US is gonna get involved.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: And good.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um I I do know that one of the key leaders of the IRGC has already been killed by Iranian civilians, right?
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, part of their missile, I think it was their missile defense or missile application commander.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he got killed at his house.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: So they they are starting to take things into their own hands.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: But I I think they deserve our support, probably more so than most.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: What a um what an amazing time in history to witness, right?
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're actually we're actually gonna see that happen as is pretty wild.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I I there's a beautiful video I saved in the sheridan um of what Iran looked like uh back in the 70s, and it was so beautiful, it was so beautiful and free, and people were just living Afghanistan was the same way.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you go back and you look, right, and again, you know, I spent a lot of time over there.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: Kabul was a modern city, had a modern subway, had a zoo, had all, you know, it was in mini skirts, they were going to university.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was all of those things, and then you know, turmoil happens.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: In Iran, the case of Iran, it was the Shah being deposed and the Antola being installed, and then Afghanistan, the Russians came in and they you know tore the place apart.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: So um, I think the most interesting thing is it is literally the grandkids of the youth movement that overthrew the Shah.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: Those people's grandchildren are the people you're talking two generations.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, their grandchildren are the ones that are flipping this thing over and turning it back to the way that it was.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's really incredible.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I I I think um I think everyone's worldview would be so much better if we actually understood and knew knew that history uh of those areas, right?
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like if we actually knew and had those comparisons, but you know, the powers that be don't don't want our youth knowing these things, obviously.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: But oh my goodness.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, we uh we covered quite a few topics there, really good ones too.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm glad we were we were able to uh discuss those things, you know.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: I get antsy when we're away when we take our break, and and it's like all these things are happening.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, I just want to talk about these things with Clay for every I just want to share them.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: So we got to talk about them.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_00: There will be more stuff to talk about next week.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody's going on vacation next week.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_00: We expect to be here next week.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm not missing the babies next week, unfortunately for me.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: So so uh thank we thank you guys for uh waiting patiently for us to come back.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: I know you're all just sitting around waiting and you know, what do they call that?
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: Twiddling your thumbs, waiting for us to come back, right?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_01: I actually had people message me and go, hey, I looked for like on uh on Friday last week.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_01: People were like, hey, I I went to YouTube, I went to find you guys, I couldn't find you guys.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, we took an extra week off, you know.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um there there were people looking for us.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that makes me feel good.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yay! Well, we are back, we are back and ready to party.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: And by party, I mean talk about all the current things going on in the world.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_00: Clay, it was great being back with you again.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: I look forward to next week.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: You want to close everybody out?
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: I got two things.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: One, as always for me, keep moving, keep shooting, but two, go bears.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_00: How about them bears?
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_00: How about them bears?
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yay.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: All right, guys, we will see you all next week.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_00: Take care.
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  SPEAKER_00: Join us in the comment section.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_00: Bye bye.