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Tuesday 3pm hour 05/12/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: I cannot believe what I just heard. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting here listening to the news at 3 o'clock, and
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: I can't believe what I heard. And I find it
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  Speaker 1: deeply disturbing and troubling. Were you paying attention to the
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: news at 3? Were you listening? So I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 1: and they're talking about the inflation rate being at over 3%.
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  Speaker 1: And did you hear the sound bites from President Trump?
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  Speaker 1: Did you? Were you paying attention? When they talked about
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  Speaker 1: the inflation rates and costs going up and ask him
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  Speaker 1: a question about it. Did you hear his response? The
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  Speaker 1: only thing I'm focused on is Iran and a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about any of that. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even focused on it, not even thinking about it. Did
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  Speaker 1: you hear that statement coming from Trump? I find that
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  Speaker 1: deeply disturbing. I mean, in all seriousness, were you paying
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  Speaker 1: attention at 3 o'clock during that newscast and hear that
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  Speaker 1: statement coming from the president? When they're saying, okay, inflation
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  Speaker 1: went high. It's high at over 3%. Gas prices are high.
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  Speaker 1: So they ask him once again about that. And his
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  Speaker 1: reaction is, I'm not even paying attention to that. The
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  Speaker 1: only thing I'm concerned about is Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: That was his reaction. Basically what he said. How's that
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  Speaker 1: make you feel? How does that make you feel? As
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  Speaker 1: a Trump voter, I find it deeply disturbing. I want
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  Speaker 1: to say you sure as hell should be concerned about
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  Speaker 1: it because you caused it. Here's my reaction to his
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  Speaker 1: comments in that fashion. My answer to that is, you
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  Speaker 1: caused this. You're not paying attention to it. You're not
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  Speaker 1: concerned about it. You created this mess. This isn't Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: This is on you. And all of a sudden... When
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  Speaker 1: you would be talking about affordability and inflation when you
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  Speaker 1: were running in America first, all of a sudden, you're
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  Speaker 1: not even thinking about it. You're just thinking about Iran
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  Speaker 1: and a nuclear weapon. And what effect this is having
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  Speaker 1: on each and every one of us. That stunned me.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely stunned me. It was like, I don't care about that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care where you are with gas and inflation
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  Speaker 1: and the pressure it's putting on everybody's finances. For that
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  Speaker 1: back burner, all I care about is Iran and the
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. I mean, you heard it, right? I'm not exaggerating.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said. And that's what I find deeply troubling.
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  Speaker 1: CNBC headline, S & P 500 retreats from record as
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  Speaker 1: tech rally cools off, inflation flares up. Headline on CNBC.
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  Speaker 1: So digging deeper on their site, it's not just Iran
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  Speaker 1: and oil rising. So it's not just Iran and the
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  Speaker 1: cost of oil. Prices are also re-accelerating in other areas.
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  Speaker 1: It's inflation. So it's not just about Iran. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just about oil. It's inflation. Headlines. Traders believe inflation could
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  Speaker 1: near 5% this year. Listen, I'm going to tell each
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  Speaker 1: and every one of you, you better be concerned about this.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can focus on more than one thing
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  Speaker 1: at a time. But you better be concerned about this.
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  Speaker 1: Because your constituents are. So when they're talking about Trump
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  Speaker 1: believes inflation could near 5% this year. Markets raise chances
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  Speaker 1: for a Fed rate hike. Not a cut in interest rates,
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  Speaker 1: but a hike following hot inflation reports. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: not making this up from the financial pages. And don't
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  Speaker 1: come on at 3 o'clock, presidents, and tell me you're
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  Speaker 1: not paying attention to it. You damn well better be
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  Speaker 1: paying attention. I say as a Trump voter, not once,
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  Speaker 1: not twice, but three times. And as I like to emphasize,
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  Speaker 1: make no mistake, I wouldn't vote for Biden or Kamala
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  Speaker 1: or Sherrod Brown or any Democrats. They're a disaster. They're
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  Speaker 1: an absolute disaster. So I'm not so stupid that I'd say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: that means I'm going to vote for the Democrat. That's
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen. But I sure am disappointed in
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  Speaker 1: that response to what is a significant problem for a
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  Speaker 1: growing number of our constituents here. The problem being the
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  Speaker 1: cost of living. The cost of living. That is the
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  Speaker 1: big problem. That is the huge problem. The cost of living.
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  Speaker 1: So now we're not just talking about what it costs
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  Speaker 1: for a gallon of gas. Now we're talking about overall inflation.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're talking about a rate hike from the feds.
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  Speaker 1: This is not good news. Markets, Dow is up 80.
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  Speaker 1: Everything else is in the red. Bad day for your 401k.
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  Speaker 1: Bad day for your IRA. Bad day for your investments.
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  Speaker 1: This is... and should be the primary concern of the
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  Speaker 1: White House. Because they're going to live or die on this.
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  Speaker 1: If they don't do something about this, the midterms will
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  Speaker 1: be lost. Because it is the economy stupid. Every time
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  Speaker 1: you get away from that, you're reminded of that after
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  Speaker 1: an election. It is the economy stupid. And when people
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  Speaker 1: are seeing their lifestyle decline and are concerned about surviving
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  Speaker 1: and affording things, that's of concern. And to give a
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  Speaker 1: quote like that, I'm not focused on that. Well, you
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  Speaker 1: sure as hell should be. You were elected on affordability.
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  Speaker 1: And right now you're not making it better. You're making
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  Speaker 1: it worse. Comments, please. It might not be what he
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  Speaker 1: wants to hear, but that is the reality out there.
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  Speaker 1: And a hell of a lot more people are going
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  Speaker 1: to be concerned with what's happening to their wallets and
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  Speaker 1: cost and lifestyle than they are about Iran and a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. I doubt that too many of you were
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  Speaker 1: staying up at night before this started scared of Iran
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  Speaker 1: with a nuclear weapon. I seriously doubt it. You might
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  Speaker 1: act like you are now because you've been fed some
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  Speaker 1: of this from the media, but you weren't on top
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  Speaker 1: of this before this situation took place. You weren't concerned
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  Speaker 1: about Iran and a nuclear weapon until they told you
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  Speaker 1: and they started focusing on why you should be. or
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  Speaker 1: thinking you should be, or trying to convince you you
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  Speaker 1: should be. And I repeat, once again, the majority of
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  Speaker 1: people in this country are not on board with this.
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  Speaker 1: But the majority of people are under attack when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to these economic numbers. All right, let's see if
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  Speaker 1: we can start out with some interesting comments. You're on
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  Speaker 1: the air.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, good afternoon. Well, you said it right. I
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  Speaker 2: heard it, too. I couldn't believe it. My jaw dropped.
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  Speaker 1: So did mine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it..
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: How is it our gas prices are so high? All
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  Speaker 2: the countries throughout the world, except for maybe Canada, they're
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  Speaker 2: paying double the amount that we're paying for our price
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  Speaker 2: per gallon, almost three times as much. $ 12 a gallon.
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  Speaker 2: But it was all the soil from Venezuela. How come
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  Speaker 2: we aren't doing that? But mark my words. Mark my words.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the year, when the taxes are
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  Speaker 2: done and put in, you are going to see that these...
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  Speaker 2: corporations that make the gas and everything else, they are
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  Speaker 2: going to have a record-breaking year of almost trillion dollars
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  Speaker 2: in making money.
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. I completely agree with that statement.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying the oil companies will have record-breaking years, and
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: The thing of it is, is Europe's already looking at
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  Speaker 2: the Shell Corporation and BP because they're already showing it
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  Speaker 2: on how much money they're making. So they're talking about
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  Speaker 2: taxing the windfall tax. I wouldn't call it a windfall tax.
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  Speaker 2: Hell no, I'd call it what it is, a tax
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  Speaker 2: for gouging the people of the world. That's what I
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  Speaker 2: would call it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you heard the comments as I did,
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  Speaker 1: because you have to pay attention to it, and I
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely stunned. By that comment. And my reaction is,
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  Speaker 1: you sure as hell should be concerned about it, because
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  Speaker 1: I got news for you. I am. I'm concerned about it,
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  Speaker 1: because guess what? It affects me.
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  Speaker 2: You're right. It affects us all, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Here, I'd like to change it just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: On the governor race coming up, Dr. Pat, upon looking
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  Speaker 2: at her memoirs or whatever, on how she was, where
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  Speaker 2: she was. And if I understand it correctly, I've only
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  Speaker 2: researched it once. She's a native of Youngstown, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you mean Amy Acton. That is true.
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  Speaker 2: And she also was homeless for a while, worked her
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  Speaker 2: way up. But every time she made a move, when
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  Speaker 2: the COVID epidemic came in, the one man that backed
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  Speaker 2: her was DeWine. One specific statement was, we are going
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  Speaker 2: to follow the sciences of this disease. So she put
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  Speaker 2: it out there. She left because her and her family,
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  Speaker 2: just like Major Taylor Greene, left because she was receiving
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  Speaker 2: life threats against her and her family.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's back up for a second. Where are
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  Speaker 1: you calling out, PA?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Niles, Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Niles.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then you were, obviously, you were in Ohio, as
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  Speaker 1: I was when this was going on. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: She left at a critical time and hightailed it out.
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  Speaker 1: Just bear with me. There isn't an excuse that's acceptable
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  Speaker 1: for me for that. If you think it's difficult being
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  Speaker 1: the state doctor and you can't take that pressure... Well,
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  Speaker 1: wait till you're governor because it's going to be way
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  Speaker 1: more pressure, way more intense, and way more disagreements or
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  Speaker 1: controversy that comes with it. I mean, do you think
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  Speaker 1: that Amy Acton was under more stress than the governor
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  Speaker 1: is or the governor is now? Like when people are
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  Speaker 1: pointing to DeWine right now and saying, well, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: What about all this fraud that's happening in Ohio? How
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  Speaker 1: did they get away with it? Why weren't you on
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  Speaker 1: top of it? Why weren't you doing anything? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's fair criticism to ask DeWine. I mean, as a Republican,
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  Speaker 1: you can't give him a pass when they're talking about
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  Speaker 1: billions of dollars of fraud in Ohio. And he is
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  Speaker 1: silent about it. I'm not seeing much of a difference
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  Speaker 1: between him and Tampon Tim on this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got a point there, but he's a Republican,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll go ahead to hide it. But the thing
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  Speaker 2: that bothers me is when he got nailed for it
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  Speaker 2: the first time, under all those unemployment checks and all
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  Speaker 2: that money given out, his statement was direct. He looked
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  Speaker 2: at everybody and said, you're right, but I was thinking
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  Speaker 2: of the kids.
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  Speaker 1: I get tired of it. Listen, fraud is fraud. I
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  Speaker 1: get tired of it. They're talking about the folks in
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  Speaker 1: Ohio stealing huge sums of Medicaid money. Medicaid makes up
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  Speaker 1: half of the state budget. $ 45 million of a $ 90
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  Speaker 1: million budget, basically, in the state of Ohio. Is it
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  Speaker 1: million or billion? I would think it would be billion.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, $ 90 billion budget. Or maybe it's a million.
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to check. But half of our state budget
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  Speaker 1: goes to Medicaid. And with fraud, you should be concerned.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on. I'll come right back to you and let
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  Speaker 1: you wrap up in a minute. Youngstown's News, Weather, and
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  Speaker 1: Talk Station, 570 WKBN. All I can say to you,
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  Speaker 1: my friend in Niles, is that Amy Acton is... She
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to lower your taxes. It's not their philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats will create more handout programs. We can see what
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  Speaker 1: they've done in other states. She is a progressive far-left Democrat.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me that her roots are in Youngstown.
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  Speaker 1: She is a far-left progressive Democrat. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: become a sanctuary state. I don't want to have more
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  Speaker 1: government programs and government handouts. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 1: taxes go up. Now, with that being said, do I
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  Speaker 1: agree with her on, for example, one thing she says
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  Speaker 1: is that we should restore the government funding back to
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  Speaker 1: local governments. I agree with her on that. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't disagree with her on everything. I do agree with
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  Speaker 1: her on that. But I know what her philosophy is,
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  Speaker 1: and her philosophy isn't one that I can vote for.
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  Speaker 1: And I tell you that straightforward, just as I say
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  Speaker 1: I'm deeply disappointed in Mike DeWine and where he stands.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Vivek will be a much better person
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  Speaker 1: at running this state, I think, in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: that can benefit all of us in Ohio, productive people
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio. I leave you with that. But I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: of one thing. I'm glad you were as stunned sitting
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  Speaker 1: in Niles, Ohio, as I was sitting here in Boardman, Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: when you heard that statement come out of the president's mouth.
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  Speaker 1: That's just unbelievable to me.
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  Speaker 2: To me, yeah, it just shows what his thinking is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't want them to have a bomb,
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  Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb, then you need to do, you've got
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  Speaker 2: steps here that are involved. And the one country that's
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  Speaker 2: going to hold it up is Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's be realistic. The bunker buster had to set
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  Speaker 1: them back. All of this bombing had to set them back.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know that we know what damage has
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  Speaker 1: been done. I think their idea of getting a bomb
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  Speaker 1: anytime soon is probably out of the equation at this
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  Speaker 1: point in time. So how long do you want to
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  Speaker 1: stay with this? Do you want to stay with it
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  Speaker 1: as you destroy the American economy? And I do mean
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  Speaker 1: destroy it. Put us in a deep recession. Cause unemployment.
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  Speaker 1: Cause inflation. Cause a down market. If that's your choice,
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  Speaker 1: then you'll suffer the consequences as Joe Biden did when
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  Speaker 1: people felt he was totally out of touch in a
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  Speaker 1: Republican sweep with the problems that we're facing each and
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  Speaker 1: every individual American. It's Americans first. Good hearing you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad you started things off for me today. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's fine. I'm glad to hear I could do
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  Speaker 2: that for you. But the thing that bothers me about
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  Speaker 2: that whole thing in the Middle East is Iran don't care.
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  Speaker 2: We'll go back to moving with camels.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Yep, I keep hearing a deal's imminent.
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  Speaker 1: I've been hearing it for weeks. Well, where is it?
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm hearing we've got to go back to bombing.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to get one out of them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What he wants out of them people. And the first
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  Speaker 2: country that's got to step, that they're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to pull back on, is this country of Israel. You
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  Speaker 2: don't need any nuclear bombs. You remove them nuclear bombs,
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  Speaker 2: Iran may come to the table. And under that, the
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  Speaker 2: United States should say, We need people to come in
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  Speaker 2: and check this. And I would suggest you start with England,
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  Speaker 2: with their people to come in to look for it, France, Germany, China.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Iran's going to argue, listen, we pretty much had
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  Speaker 1: control of the strait before this happened. We're not giving
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  Speaker 1: up control of it now because of the geography of
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  Speaker 1: where it's located. It's located by us.
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  Speaker 2: But most of that oil goes right to China. You
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  Speaker 2: don't even go any other place.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: You have a nice day today.
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  Speaker 1: You too. NewsRadio 570. Let me pause for the headlines.
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  Speaker 1: At 3.30, then I come back and pick up with
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  Speaker 1: more of your calls. Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I am. Here until 5.30, then the Guardian Spree Game.
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  Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 2: WKVN.
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  Speaker 1: Ron Verb, NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 2: WKVN.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just calling back from yesterday to talk
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  Speaker 4: about the Vindicator's editorial May 2nd.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about that.
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  Speaker 4: But you still want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: No, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do. This was a– I missed this editorial, and
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  Speaker 1: I get the Vindicator. I might even have it here somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: May 2nd. Let's see. What is it today? So 10
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: days ago, this is what the Vindicator wrote pertinent to
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  Speaker 1: the property tax. Go ahead and read it to us.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so the title is, Ohio Tax Abolition Campaign Stumbles,
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  Speaker 4: Opposition Grows. From a variety of perspectives, the Axe Ohio
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  Speaker 4: Tax Movement to abolish all local property taxes in Ohio
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  Speaker 4: is going over like a proverbial lead ballooned. Consider, and
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  Speaker 4: then they have three bullet points, it's nearly a year-long
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: drive to collect its goal of 620,000 ballot access petition
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  Speaker 4: signatures as of last week has fallen woefully short, lacking
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  Speaker 4: 315,000 needed signers. And time is running short for their
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  Speaker 4: submission to state officials to qualify for this fall's ballot.
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  Speaker 4: Their second point, a mushrooming coalition of more than 65
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  Speaker 4: organizations and local governments across the state have united under
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  Speaker 4: the banner of Ohioans to protect public services to aggressively
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  Speaker 4: oppose the proposed voter-initiated state constitutional amendment. Their third point,
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  Speaker 4: property tax reform has jettisoned to priority number one in
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  Speaker 4: the Ohio General Assembly with successful results ever since the
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  Speaker 4: Citizens for Property Tax Reforms campaign in began in early 2025. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: that's Beth Blackmar's group, not Brian Massey's group. So far,
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  Speaker 4: according to State Rep. Dave Thomas, a leader in the
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  Speaker 4: tax relief push, Ohioans will enjoy about $ 3. 8 billion in
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  Speaker 4: property tax reductions over the next three years, thanks to
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  Speaker 4: reforms enacted over this past year. Nonetheless, even though the
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  Speaker 4: abolition movement appears to be grasping for oxygen and the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: opposition movement gains more stamina by the day, the future
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  Speaker 4: of stable public services in local communities remains at risk
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: if ACTS Ohio Tax's principal goal is not taken dead
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  Speaker 4: seriously and not fought vociferously. At a press conference last
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  Speaker 4: week in Kirtland, Ohio, Axe Ohio Tax co-founder Brian Massey
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  Speaker 4: issued an urgent plea for a tsunami of petition signatures
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  Speaker 4: by June 1st and suggested the group may prolong its
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  Speaker 4: petition drive into next year, thereby missing again its goal
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  Speaker 4: of statewide vote this November. The group last year missed
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  Speaker 4: its initial target of November 2025 for ballot placement because
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  Speaker 4: of insufficient signatures. I'm not sure what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: From the perspective of Axe Ohio Tax, activating the yellow
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  Speaker 4: caution light would serve its serious, albeit misguided, mission well.
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  Speaker 4: It would lessen the very real risk of their year-long
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: movement sinking for the lack of sufficient and properly signed
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and organized petitions. I don't know where the vindicator gets
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: that either. From our perspective, the year-long delay would provide
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: more than ample time to greatly amplify the opposition voice
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: as well as to complement newly enacted tax reforms with
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: even more substantive measures to usher in more tax relief,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: all of which could render the abolition movement moot. But
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: as of today, the outcome is far from certain, and
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Ohio voters could still conceivably put the kibosh on all
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: local property tax collections in a statewide vote this fall.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: The stakes are clearly too high not to intensify the
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: anti-tax abolition campaign. Just how high are those stakes? According
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: to the memo, Ohio Office of Budget and Management Director
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Kimberly Mernicks wrote to Governor DeWine earlier this year, Ohio
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: would need to quadruple or more from 2.75% up to 15%
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: statewide its income tax to replace local property tax levies. Further,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: according to the Ohio Department of Taxation, the state would
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: have to raise its sales tax up to 18% of
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: the cost of purchased goods to provide a suitable cushion
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: to finance local safety services, schools, libraries, and other critical
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: services currently funded via local property taxes. Oh, so libraries
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: are critical, right?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Just keep this in mind as everybody's listening to this,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: this vindicated editorial. here's my reaction. Well, I guess there's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: just no answer. I guess based on what they're saying,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: there's just no answer, folks. If we get rid of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: property taxes, here's what the sales tax is going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: have to be. Here's what the income tax is going
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to have to be. We're not talking anything about cutting anything.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's absolutely nothing about, they just want to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: reshuffle the chairs on the Titanic. So the whole point
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of the article is, as I've said to all of you,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: as you're listening to this, and I remind you, they
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: won't be happy until they have all of your money.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I say it once again. It will never be enough.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: They continue to take more. They got a giant increase
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: with their last re-evaluations. They're not willing to, in Mahoning
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and Trumbull counties, give you a small percentage of what
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: they took from you back with a huge increase. And
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you've got a Vindicator editorial basically saying, well, you can't
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: cut property taxes. Forget all the money the state has.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Forget the $ 45 billion, I guess, that we have. I've
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: got to clarify that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Well, the Rainy Day Fund is $ 4 billion.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so forget all the money that the state takes.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: $ 90 billion to budgets per year. 45 of which goes
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just to Medicaid, just to Medicaid. And we're seeing all
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the fraud that is taking place in Medicaid. So if
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: we stop the fraud that DeWine is just dragging his
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: feet on, that we can say, where was our attorney general?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Where were the people that should be paying attention to this?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Our auditor, the attorney general, why weren't they paying attention
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to what was going on? Why wasn't this investigated as
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it wasn't in Minnesota? We're talking billions of dollars, billions
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of dollars, billions of dollars that could have instead of
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: gone for Medicaid fraud, could have gone to our schools.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Could have eased the burden on property taxes. Is there
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: anything in the Vindicator editorial about that? I'm just reminding
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you as she reads this.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Here's what I don't like. The paragraph that says, that's
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: why the organized opposition to the tax movement must grow
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: and strengthen organizations, local governments, and school districts in the
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Mahoning Valley should consider formally supporting OPPS. And here's what
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: really makes me mad. Individuals should resist the very real
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: temptation to sign Axe Ohio Tax ballot access petitions.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Don't sign anything. Can you imagine telling people that?
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Don't sign a petition. Now listen to what they're saying.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Do not sign a petition that says, let's put a
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: constitutional amendment in front of the public to vote for
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: or against. This is all about giving people a choice
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to vote for it or against it. They're suggesting you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: shouldn't even sign for it. You shouldn't even give people
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the option. We should continue to let people be ignored
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: by their county commissioners in our community here. that had
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: a huge increase that won't give you a portion of that,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of your money back. They don't give a damn what
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: burden they, they lip the services. Oh, it's tough. They
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: lip and tell you that they give a damn, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the talk is cheap. Deeds are precious. They don't make
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: any cuts to give you your money back. When they,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: when they're given that ability, you're getting reevaluated again, as
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: we speak. So your property taxes will go up again
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: on your inside millage. And it will go up whatever
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the rate of inflation is, but they will go up
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: again on top of what you're already paying. It will
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: never be enough. And by God, you shouldn't sign a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: petition to do away with property taxes. You should sit
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: there and take it and let them price your ass
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: out of your own home. Let you get old and retire,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but not able to afford in your own home. This
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is what this is saying. This is what they're doing.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And by God, Dave Thomas, and I'll sit here till
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: my time is done here, and I'll be bitching about this.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And those of you that disagree with me, You will
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: come to my understanding. on how you've been betrayed by
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: these local politicians, you will come to my understanding when
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you will see how it is screwing your adult children
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and your young children who will be adults, making it
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: difficult for them to purchase a home because of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: burden of property taxes and making it difficult for you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and your family members to stay in their home as
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they retire. We've never seen this before in this country.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And by God, that's what the battle is all about.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And this paper is.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Basically saying this is all going to the children, all
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: these property taxes for schools, but they're not. The money
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: is going to pay the cumulative interest that has been
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: compounding because the school districts have not paid off the
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: principal of any of the bonds for dozens of years.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: That's what's going on. That's illegal. What do we got?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: A $ 15 million sports complex that we build in Austintown?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is where we're going with your tax
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: dollars for sports? A fitness center? I mean, we're not
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: talking about education here. This is ridiculous.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: As though there certainly can't be any waste in the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: school system. Well, wait a minute. We're not having as
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: many kids. Enrollment in school systems is down. God forbid
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: if we do any consolidation or say, well, wait a minute.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: We don't have the amount of kids that we've had.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: We've got to make cuts because we have less students. Oh,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: excuse me, as they say in Youngstown, less scholars. So
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: we have less of them. So shouldn't the expenses be
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: coming down?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Well, you can't because you're only paying on interest. It's compounding,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: and they're not paying off the principal of any of
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: these bonds across the country.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: This is insanity.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: According to Mitch Bexler, yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: But that's why I sit here and say– Listen, once again,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I'm saying to all of you, I wish you nothing
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: but the very best, each and every one of you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: But by God, I sit here and I want you
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to understand something. If you don't understand this issue, you will.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You will come to understand it when your children that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: are adults have a difficult time buying a home because
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of how much their property taxes will be in addition
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to the payment, making it more difficult to buy a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: home and achieve the American dream, if you will. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: for you as you get older or your parents that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: are older to be able to stay in their home
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: because they've been taxed out of it. We've never had
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: this in this country before. And by God, you better
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: stand up and fight it where we are right here
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and right now. This is utter bull crap. So it's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: got to be thought through, and we've got to make
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: some changes here. Government can't take care of everybody's problems.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: There has to be personal responsibility. I was just reading here.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: This was sent to me. I'm going to get into
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: this later because I ain't got a lot of time.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I'll get into that tomorrow. I got something for you
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: tomorrow I want you to hear. Call in tomorrow and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, this paper is nothing but a socialist paper, okay?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Just like CNN and MSNBC.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Well, that's their opinion, and I gave you my opinion
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: about their opinion. And, you know, hey, guess what? You
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. God bless you and all
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: your helpers. And folks, I'm telling you right now, you'll
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: all come around to understanding what I'm saying to you.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Even if you disagree with me now, you will come
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: around to it. I cannot tell you the emails I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: get from people that used to think I was full
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of crap and nonsense. But then when their house is
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: paid off and all of a sudden they now understand
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: what their property taxes are because it was in their
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: payment and they put it in escrow. Then I get
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the emails. Hey, I never knew that my property taxes
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: were this much per month. I get what you're saying now. Well,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a little late. Pay attention. All right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: All right. It just, that's why I say to you guys,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they won't be happy till they have all of your money.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad Christine Oliver won. Because her two
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: important points were, A, doubling the homestead exemption, income base
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: for our poorest seniors, and doubling the owner occupancy. Each
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and every one of you, I don't care if you're
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a Republican or Democrat, by God, you deserve it. You've
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: been abused long enough, and you deserve to keep some
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: of your money back from that huge increase. And these
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: politicians that say, we're not going to do it because
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the state isn't going to reimburse us, you've still got
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a giant increase, for God's sakes. And you'll still have
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: more money. You're still ahead of the game, even with
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: giving your constituents, if you give a damn about it,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a small portion of their money back. For the love
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: of God, you're on the air.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Hi, Rod.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: I'm not concerned.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: This is... I truly believe that it's more important that
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: we worry about the.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: War than we worry about you paying for gas or
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you being uncomfortable.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I think that you guys are all overreacting. I really
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: believe that you're overreacting.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You know that, right? Wait a minute, folks. Don't say
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: another word. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: another word. Listen to me. Just leave it right there
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: for now, okay? Seriously.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Are you going to hang up on me?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Mike. J.J. the liberal. Doing his best
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to do his Trump impression. Leave it right there. A
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: great Trump impression that I just heard at 3 o'clock.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: J.J.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: The liberal. You're on the air.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Okay, let me respond to J.J., saying that the markets
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: are overreacting.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: No, no, he was being sarcastic.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Well, George Soros once said, forget the efficient markets hypothesis.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: He said, that's a bunch of nonsense. He said, first
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: the markets underreact to news, then they overreact later.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Care what Soros says. Or these people are saying, I'm saying,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: did you hear it at 3 o'clock? Did you hear
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the president's comments at 3 o'clock when he said in
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: my newscast here, on top of the hour, he said
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: when they announced inflation was over 3% and gas prices
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and the effect it was having on consumers, and he said,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not even focused on that. All I'm thinking about
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: is Iran and a nuclear weapon. I'm not even remotely
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: focused on that. Like, he didn't even give a damn
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: No, I didn't hear that until I tuned into your show,
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: because I've been busy analyzing Chinese stocks since Friday.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about China. I'm sick of
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you and the Chinese stocks.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Wait, wait, run.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: I think you may have made a mistake. Did Trump say...
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: that inflation hit 3% because I'm reading front page financial
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: news and it is saying that NASDAQ down sharply in
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: final hour after inflation hits 3-year high, not 3%.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the inflation's at 3%, and it is a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: 3-year high, whatever it was, 3% or something. Traders believe
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: inflation could near 5% this year. Now, it's Now, it's
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: over 3% currently, and it's at a high over the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: highest it's been like in three years, they were saying
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: on that newscast. They asked Trump what he thought about it,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and Trump's comments were, I'm not even focused about it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about it. All I'm thinking about
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: is Iran and a nuclear weapon. And I sat here,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and I said, I can't even believe he would say
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: something like that. Stand by. Fort Lauderdale, Frank's on the line.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Get back to him. And more of your calls, 330-729-9977.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Radio 570, WKBN. And Ron Furbar, go ahead, Frank.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: Okay. I interrupted my day to call because that one
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: caller made a very good point. The oil companies will
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: probably have record-breaking profits. Now, I own oil, natural gas,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: and clean energy companies, and Warren Buffett owns oil companies.
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: He owns $ 30 billion in one oil company alone run,
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: and oil has gone from $ 90 a barrel to $ 102. 50
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: a barrel today in only one week. And that's a
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: big price increase. Now, what will happen... when every country
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: depletes their strategic petroleum reserves. That's what is keeping oil
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: prices a lot lower than they would be if all
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: that oil was not made available for the market.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: All right, sit tight for me. Just sit tight for me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: All right, and you as well. Back in a minute.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. President Trump traveling to
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: China today telling reporters he's focused on discussing trade deals
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: with China's leader as well as a ceasefire deal with Iran.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Talks remain stalled on ending the war. The president brushing
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: off economic pressures in the latest Consumer Price Index showing
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: inflation has soared to a three-year high. calling those higher
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: costs on goods and gas temporary for Americans. Here's ABC's
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Schulze.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: The trend is going really in the wrong direction here.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Across the board, when you look at prices, those higher
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: fuel costs are translating to higher prices for public transportation,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: for airfare. If you look at the airfare index, it's
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: up about 21% now. in April compared to a year before.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: That's why we've seen those ticket prices going up so
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: much because of jet fuel costs.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: The Federal Reserve Bank of New York releasing its data
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: report showing household debt for Americans reaching an all-time high,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: $ 18. 8 trillion, in the first three months of this year.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Eighteen passengers from that Dutch cruise ship hit with the
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: hantavirus outbreak remain in quarantine at facilities in Nebraska and Georgia.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: One person testing positive, another has developed symptoms. Officials say
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: the majority are asymptomatic. Passenger Jake Rosemarin says he'll stay
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: in Omaha for the full incubation period.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: My plan right now is to stay for the full
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: 42 days.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I think that is the best decision that's for me
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and for my family, and I know that here I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: in the best care possible.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: A federal appeals court in New York agreed to pause
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: a ruling against President Trump in the E. Jean Carroll
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: case so he can try to take his case to
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: the U.S.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: The appeals court stated its rejection of Trump's attempt to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: relitigate his claims in the case where Trump was found
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: liable for defaming and sexually abusing Carroll. The Senate has
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: confirmed Kevin Warsh to serve as a member of the
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Federal Reserve Board of Governors. Another vote on his nomination
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: to become the next Fed chair is expected later this week.
• 39:52
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