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The entire broadcast from Thursday 06/04/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Free news radio 570 wkbn youngstown.
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  Speaker 2: Well tough left-hander coming on for new york after a
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: superb outing for carlos rodan game tied at one seventh
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: inning brent hedrick a lefty to face stewart fairchild who's
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: walked and singled in Cleveland's only run, his first hit
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: in a Cleveland uniform. He shows bunt, does an offer
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: in the pitch, missing ball one. Carlos Rodon made 96 pitches,
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: went six innings, gave up a run on two hits,
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  Speaker 2: struck out seven, walked three. Hedrick, fastball, slider, split. Fairchild
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: fouling it straight back to even the count. Hedrick, Worked
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: in the ballgame Monday night and ending in two-thirds of
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: scoreless relief. Appearance number 30. He's 3-1 with a 188 ERA.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: The pitch, and it's fouled back again. 1-2 on Fairchild.
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  Speaker 2: Guardians and Yankees next Monday through Wednesday. Night games Monday, Tuesday.
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: And a fun day game. With school out next Wednesday,
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: that ought to be a big crowd in Cleveland. Tickets
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: begin at $ 20. CLEGuardians.com. Tigers come to town next weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Now the 1-2 pitch. Swing and a foul tip. It's
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  Speaker 2: one of the better homestands of the year, Yankees-Tigers.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: First visit of the year for Detroit.
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  Speaker 4: Starting to play a little bit better. Hedrick is a
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  Speaker 4: really good matchup. The pitch.
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  Speaker 2: And he got him swinging. Stuart Fairchild out number one.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Stephen Kwan 0 for 2. 2 for 10 in
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  Speaker 2: the series. He's really been kept at bay by this
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  Speaker 2: Yankee pitching staff. Big thing today is Cleveland's not been
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  Speaker 2: able to hit the long ball. They hit four homers
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  Speaker 2: in the first two games. Conversely, Cleveland Hasn't given up
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  Speaker 2: any homers today either. Kwon popping it up into the
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  Speaker 2: home plate seating area. Foul for strike one. Stephen Kwon
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  Speaker 2: still trying to get on a hot stretch. Batting average.
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  Speaker 4: At 207.
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  Speaker 2: Outfield shallow a bit toward left the pitch. And he
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  Speaker 2: lines one toward center but right at Grisham.
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  Speaker 4: Two down. That'll bring up Austin Hedges.
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  Speaker 2: And again, for Stephen Kwan, if he hits the ball
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  Speaker 2: in the air, either to left or to center, that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly where the opposition wants him to hit it. He
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  Speaker 2: can do damage in the air, but only on the
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  Speaker 2: pull side for the most part. Here's catcher Austin Hedges.
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  Speaker 2: He's 0 for 2. 2 down, nobody on. 7th inning.
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  Speaker 2: 1-1 game, a swing and a miss. Strength 1. Pretty
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  Speaker 2: remarkable what Cleveland's done offensively. Because you've got to believe
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Kwan is going to get hot here sooner rather
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  Speaker 2: than later. Kyle Manzardo started to heat up. What a
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  Speaker 2: series Jose Ramirez has had. Now the 0-1 is outside 1-1,
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  Speaker 2: but those are the three guys that Cleveland really leaned
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  Speaker 2: on a year ago. This year, guys like Chase DeLauder,
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  Speaker 2: Travis Pazana, Brian Arrocchio, and Angel Martinez have been huge.
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  Speaker 2: The 1-1, down and in, ball two, 2-1.
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  Speaker 4: The pitch.
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  Speaker 2: That misses. Three balls and a strike on Austin Hedges.
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  Speaker 2: You get a feeling one mistake might decide this one today.
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  Speaker 2: 1-1 game in the seventh.
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  Speaker 4: The 3-1. And he missed. Ball four with the Yankees challenge.
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  Speaker 4: Hedrick thought he had a strike. No challenge.
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  Speaker 2: Austin Hedges with a two-out walk, bringing up Ryan Rocchio.
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  Speaker 2: Runner on, two down in the seventh. Cleveland's only had
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  Speaker 2: the two hits in the fourth inning. A 1-1 game,
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  Speaker 2: Rocchio batting right-handed. His at-bat is going to be held
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  Speaker 2: off for a moment because manager Aaron Boone is marching
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  Speaker 2: out to the mound.
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  Speaker 4: This is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Discussion continues to go on. A little stalling tactic there
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  Speaker 2: to get the bullpen ready. Or was it?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: That's Matt Blake, the pitching coach, coming back. A little
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  Speaker 4: chatter with the home plate umpire on his way back
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  Speaker 4: to the duck out, too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: At least they walked off the mound, arms around each other.
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  Speaker 4: 1-1 game.
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  Speaker 2: Two down, runner at first. Roquio fouling it back, strike one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Yankees have a challenge left. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: use it, though. Maybe, and every team is different. Some
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  Speaker 2: teams may feel like when they're down to one challenge,
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: we're not using it until the ninth inning. Every club
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  Speaker 2: a little different. The pitch waved at. And an 0-2
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  Speaker 2: count on Rocchio. He's 1-4-8 this series. So, edges certainly
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  Speaker 2: not a threat to Steele. At first with two down
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  Speaker 2: in the seventh game. Deadlocked at a run.
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  Speaker 4: The pitch.
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  Speaker 2: And it's fouled out of play to the right. Still
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  Speaker 2: an 0-2 count. The next delivery, way high and outside.
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  Speaker 2: One ball, two strikes. Well, it looks like today is
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  Speaker 2: over for Slade Ciccone. I believe that's right-hander Cody Hoyer
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  Speaker 2: up in the Cleveland pen. Now the 1-2. Rocio checks swing.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't go on the appeal. Pitch in the dirt, 2-2.
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  Speaker 2: So Hedrick got two quick outs, then a walk of
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  Speaker 2: the number eight hitter. Now 2-2 count on the number
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  Speaker 2: nine hitter. Hedrick's pitch, swung on, skied in the air
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  Speaker 2: to right, twisting down the line, foul, and this will
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  Speaker 2: nestle into the seats.
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  Speaker 4: And the count stays 2-2.
• 8:05
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  Speaker 2: let's go places. 1-1 game, seventh inning. Runner at first,
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  Speaker 2: two down, the 2-2. Swung on, hit pretty well to right.
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  Speaker 2: Schumann back, track near the wall, jumps and made the catch.
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  Speaker 4: Not sure he had to jump, but he did. Still
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  Speaker 4: a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit further to go as he got close to the wall.
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  Speaker 2: Rocchio hit it hard. Anytime you hit it to right
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  Speaker 2: field in this park, you feel like, eh, maybe it'll
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  Speaker 2: get out of here. But a nice play by Schumann.
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  Speaker 2: Whether he had to jump or not, he was going
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  Speaker 2: to make sure of it as he was well in
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  Speaker 2: front of the wall when he jumped up, snagged it.
• 9:01
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  Speaker 2: Cody Hoyer on the pitch for Cleveland, and one of
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  Speaker 2: the best outings that we have seen in Slade Ciccone's
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: time in a Cleveland uniform when you consider against this
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  Speaker 2: lineup in this ballpark, Slade Ciccone went six strong, gave
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  Speaker 2: up a run on four hits, struck out four, walked one,
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  Speaker 2: made 82 pitches, and gave Cleveland its longest start in
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  Speaker 2: this series. And the bullpen, which is without Hunter Gaddis,
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Colin Holderman, Tim Herron, they all pitched the first two games.
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  Speaker 2: You're not bringing them back not only a third straight day,
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  Speaker 2: but a day game following a night game. So Cody
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  Speaker 2: Hoyer gets the shot, and Cody Hoyer makes appearance number six,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: an ERA of 284, and he was saying, man, I'm
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: finally having fun again. 38 months of rehab. 38 months consecutively.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: He had had Tommy John surgery and then he said
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: he was back getting ready to pitch again. Threw a
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  Speaker 2: pitch and fractured his elbow. He has five screws down
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  Speaker 2: that pitching elbow.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, that is over three years of constant daily rehab.
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  Speaker 2: The mental toll that can take. Back throwing it well.
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  Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger facing Cody Hoyer. The right hander's pitch. In
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  Speaker 2: there a strike. Hoyer fastball slider change. Now the 0-1.
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  Speaker 2: Little wide on a changeup. Cody Hoyer did not pitch
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  Speaker 2: in a major league game from September of 2021 until
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  Speaker 2: June of 2025. Bellinger, skies one, shallow center. Stuart Fairchild
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  Speaker 2: fighting that sun with the catch.
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  Speaker 4: One down. He said, you can't believe how much fun
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  Speaker 4: it is to get.
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  Speaker 2: Back out on a mound until you go through something
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  Speaker 2: like that and you wonder, will I ever... ever be
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  Speaker 2: able to pitch again. Tommy John is one thing. You're
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  Speaker 2: recovered from that and you fracture your elbow? That's usually
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  Speaker 2: career ending. Here's Jazz Chisholm, a strikeout, a sack fly.
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  Speaker 2: Left-handed hitting second baseman, and he takes outside a ball.
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  Speaker 2: The problem with this Yankee lineup, even without Judge, so
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  Speaker 2: many guys are able to take you deep, including the
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  Speaker 2: guy at the plate. The 1-0 outside 2-0. Today, Chisholm,
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  Speaker 2: a strikeout. His sack fly in the fourth, driving in
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees' only run. 1-1 game, seventh inning. Now the
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  Speaker 2: 2-0 pitch. And it's in there, a strike. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: a delayed call by James Jean and Chisholm. Kind of
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: jumping up and down in the batter's box. Again, you wondered,
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  Speaker 2: might he challenge?
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  Speaker 4: But he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yankees down to one challenge. Now the 2-1. Outside 3-1.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be careful here. Chisholm is looking to
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  Speaker 2: do damage middle, middle end. The 3-1 delivery. Down and in.
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  Speaker 2: He walked him. And now the danger is Chisholm is
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  Speaker 2: such a good base stealer. He has 14 on the year.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: which is fifth best in the American League. And again,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Cleveland pitchers have had a hard time slowing down the
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: run game. Here's Jose Caballero. He's 0 for 2 today.
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  Speaker 2: Righty-righty matchup. Go ahead, run at first. One out, seventh inning.
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  Speaker 2: Big lead for Chisholm. And the pitch in there, a strike.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Caballero was going to let him try to steal. It
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  Speaker 2: looked like Chisholm was going. He was dancing off first,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: had a mammoth lead, and then didn't go. He's got
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: a good lead again. Hoyer hands brought up the pitch.
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  Speaker 2: Outside again, and again it looked like Caballero was trying
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  Speaker 2: to give Chisholm a chance to steal.
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  Speaker 4: One and one to count.
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  Speaker 2: Yankees second only to Cleveland in stolen bases in the
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  Speaker 2: American League. Good lead for Chisholm. Draws the throw, back
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  Speaker 2: with the dive. Cody Hoyer pitched at Wichita State University.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Then with the White Sox, Cubs, Texas, Detroit. Most of
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: last year in Triple-A. Another throw over, that's the second one.
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  Speaker 2: So now, Chisholm knows he can go a little bit further.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Because if there's another pick off attempt, if he's out,
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  Speaker 2: it's one thing, but if he is safe, it's a balk,
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  Speaker 2: he goes to second.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a good lead. Boyer's ready.
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  Speaker 2: The one-one, way outside, Hedges throw back, they almost got
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  Speaker 2: him on the back pick. Head first dive, got Chisholm
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  Speaker 2: back safely. Boy, and again, it looked like he was
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: taking off. Now let's see if the Yankees do something
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: with a 2-1 count. One out, runner at first, seventh inning.
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  Speaker 2: This ballgame deadlocked at a run apiece. With these two guys,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you can do a lot of things. Steal, hit and run.
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  Speaker 4: The 2-1. Inside corner, a called strike on a slider.
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  Speaker 5: 2-2.
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  Speaker 4: Literally every pitch, it looks like Jazz Chisholm's taking off,
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  Speaker 4: but has not yet. 2-2 the count on Caballero. And
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  Speaker 4: now he steps away.
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  Speaker 2: Marathon's here to keep you and your team fueled all
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: summer long. Marathon driven together. Yankees have out-hit the Guardians 4-2.
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  Speaker 2: It's a 1-1 game in the seventh. Runner at first,
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  Speaker 2: one down. A 2-2 count on Caballero. Hoyer's ready. The pitch,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: runner goes, pitch sliced foul off to the right. Will
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: do it again at 2-2, and man, Chisholm's getting some
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: great jumps. Chisholm at first was born in the Bahamas.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Caballero at the plate was born in Panama. They're trying
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: to put the Yankees up in the seventh. The pitch,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: a swing and a liner to right. Towards right center,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: reaching up to snag it is the right fielder, Martinez.
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  Speaker 4: Two down.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Here's Ryan McMahon, the left-handed hitting third baseman. And Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: doesn't really have that matchup lefty in the pen today.
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  Speaker 2: The only lefty available today is Will Dion, and he
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  Speaker 2: is not going to be put into this situation.
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  Speaker 4: He's a long man.
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  Speaker 2: So two down for the left-handed hitting McMahon.
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  Speaker 4: 1-1 game.
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  Speaker 2: Toss over and back with a dive is Chisholm. Now
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: because it's a new batter, Boyer can pick over there
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: three times, but if he doesn't pick him off on.
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  Speaker 4: The third one, then it's that balk. Boy, he's got
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: a huge jump. There he goes. Pitch to strike. No
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  Speaker 4: need to throw.
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  Speaker 11: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: If Boyer had turned and thrown to first, they have
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: just chiseled. by 20 feet. So Jazz Chisholm now with
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: 15 steals. And that's a big one because it's got
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the go-ahead run and scoring position with two down in
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  Speaker 2: the seventh.
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  Speaker 4: 1-1 game.
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  Speaker 2: The pitch. Down and in. Got away from Hedges. To
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  Speaker 2: third goes Chisholm. We'll see how that is scored. It's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: going to be called a wild pitch.
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  Speaker 4: And indeed it was.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So, now the Yankees have a runner 90 feet from
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: home with two down.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: 1-1 in the seventh. The 1-1 pitch to McMahon. And
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  Speaker 4: it's down and in. Ball two. Two and one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Again this is what happens now when you've had to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: use your key late inning guys. Other guys now are
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: put in roles. Maybe they haven't been put in much
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  Speaker 2: this year. The case for Cody Hoyer here in the seventh.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: He fires.
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  Speaker 5: Strike.
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  Speaker 4: Paint at the outside corner with a slider. Two and two.
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  Speaker 2: But Cody Hoyer's been in this role in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Especially in His early days with the White Sox. Now
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  Speaker 2: the 2-2. Swing and a foul at the plate. We'll
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: do it again at 2-2. Go ahead, run at third,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and Chaz Chisholm, two down in the seventh, 2-2 pitch
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  Speaker 2: to McMahon. Way outside, full count. Cody Hoyer. Trying to
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: keep the game tied at one. He'll make his 21st
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: pitch in the inning. He's thrown 10 balls, 10 strikes.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Here it comes.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Swung on, chopper in the hole, face hit, right field.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yankees take the lead. Ryan McMahon. And a walk here,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: followed by a steal and a wild pitch. And New
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: York's on top, 2-1 in the 7th, McMahon's 20th RBI. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: those late-ending walks, a killer.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Here's J.C. Escarra, the left-handed hitting catcher. 0 for 2. Escara.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: What a story he is. The pitch to Escara. Down
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and in a ball. He played independent ball in 2022
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and 2023. To make ends meet, he was.
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  Speaker 4: The substitute teacher. Drove taxi. The pitch. And he fouls
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  Speaker 4: it back and out of play.
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  Speaker 5: One and one.
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  Speaker 2: Then he decided that his only shot to ever make
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: it would be if he became a catcher. He learned
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: how to catch watching videos.
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  Speaker 4: The pitch. Down and in. Ball two, two and one. J.C.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Ascara played it. FIU, Florida International University down in Miami.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Now the 2-1. Just missed wide, 3-1. Yankees on top, 2-1.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: We're in the seventh. Runner at first, two down. Cody
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  Speaker 2: Hoyer's ready. Here it comes. And it's fouled out of play.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Have a 3-2 pitch forthcoming, so McMahon will be off
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: at first. This will be the 27th pitch of the
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  Speaker 2: inning for Cody Hoyer.
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  Speaker 4: Here it comes. Got him swinging. Good changeup, but the
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Yankees have taken the lead.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: 2-1 New York. Eighth inning next here in the Cleveland
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• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Well, we saw a lot of this guy this series.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Fernando Cruz is on the pitch with a 2-1 lead.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: As we go to the 8th inning, he'll throw a ton,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and I mean a ton, of split fingers. Cruz worked
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: an inning and a third last night and struck out
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: three with that splitter. Top of the order, David Frye
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: lifted for a pinch hitter. Kyle Manzardo, who's already hit
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: two pinch hit home runs this year, takes.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: A called strike.
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  Speaker 2: David Frye struck out three times today as he was
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the leadoff hitter in DH. Now Kyle Manzardo. The pitch.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Down and in. One and one they count.
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  Speaker 2: Yankees haven't had this opportunity to turn it over to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: their bullpen with a lead late.
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  Speaker 4: The pitch.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: And Manzardo takes outside a split. Two balls and a strike.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Crews this year. 30th appearance, three wins, a. 208 ERA,.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: 196 batting average against. Now the 2-1 to Manzardo. And
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: he dropped one in there, called strike on the slider.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Cruz doesn't throw that hard, low 90s. Just a ton
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: of split fingers, as well as the sliders. Now the 2-2.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Down low, a splitter. And the count full. Boy, the
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: third baseman, Ryan McMahon, is playing like a shortstop, maybe
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: 20 feet away from the shortstop, Jose Caballero. McMahon at
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: third is probably 75 feet from the foul line.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: The pitch.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Swung on line to second. Caught by Chisholm. Hard hit,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: but Manzardo out number one. Here's Jose Ramirez. Switch hitter batting.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Left-handed.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: One for three today with a single. First at bat, left-handed.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: What a series for Jose. Going seven for 12. 2-1
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Cleveland on the short end. Eighth inning.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: The pitch.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And it's in there called strike. Boy, he hung that splitter. Again,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: infield pull to the right. Outfield deep and around toward
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the right a bit.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: The 0-1. Waved at. Another good split.
• 27:54
  Speaker 12: 0-2.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Cruz is ready.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Here it comes. Swing and a pop-up foul. Third base side.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It's staying in the yard. It'll be caught in foul
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: territory by McMahon, the third baseman. Two down for Reese Hoskins.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: He's 0-1 with a couple of walks. Right-hander against right-hander.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Talked about Fernando Cruz last night. What a journey to
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: give back to the big leagues. The pitch, and it's
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: swung on, popped him up. The shortstop Caballero, midway between
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: second and third, makes the catch and a quiet eighth
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: inning off Cruz.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Boy, has he been a weapon for the Yankees this year.
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  Speaker 4: Two to one, New York has the lead in the
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  Speaker 4: Bybee into the motion.
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  Speaker 2: And the right-hander with the one-two delivery.
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  Speaker 4: Swing and a miss. Back foot slider ate him up.
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  Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN Youngstown.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Matt Vesta from Stanton Island. is going to be doing
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the pitching now for Cleveland. It's a 2-1 ball game.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yankees have the lead. Matt Festa. Facing the number nine hitter,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: right fielder, Max Schumann. And the pitch down and away,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a ball. Festa this year, 26 appearances, a win, a save, a.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: 450 ERA.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: He's ready. Here it comes. And it's waved at. Dropping
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to a knee. Swinging so hard with Schumann. And the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: count down.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: And one and one.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Festus ready. And now Schumann backs away. Boy, Yankee hitters
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: have stepped away a lot this series. Seems like we're
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: seeing that granted more and.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: More by umpires to hitters.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Now the 1-1. Swing and a little bloop job foul.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Right side, lower deck. One ball, two strikes.
• 32:25
  Speaker 14: 1-1.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: The next pitch missing down, 2-2. Festus ready. Here it comes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And it's fouled back. Schumann played collegiately at Eastern Michigan University.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Played the last two years with the Athletics. And then
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: right before spring training, Got traded to New York. Right
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: hand to batter. Awaits the 2-2. Here it comes. And
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: he waves at it. Fastball that was elevated. Festo with
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: a strikeout.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Top of the order. Here's Trent Grisham. Double and a single.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: And a line out. Two for three.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Gorgeous day, and it's been a great week weather-wise here
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: in New York. It's that time of summer where the pitch,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: outside a ball that hasn't been a hot two, three
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: months where the city is sweltering like it can be
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: if you come here in August. Perfect time of the
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: year to be in the Big Apple. The 1-0 pitch,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: swung on, banged right side, backhanded at first. Hoskins, the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: underhand flip to Festa covering, two down. Here's Ben Rice,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: 0 for 2 of the walk. We're a little north
• 34:20
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• 34:33
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• 34:39
  Speaker 2: half miles from the north end to the south end
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and a half mile wide.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: The pitch. In there, a strike. And it is.
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  Speaker 2: Massively populated each and every day by folks taking advantage
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• 35:00
  Speaker 4: The 0-1. Swung on, hammered to right, down the line, foul.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: And the count... No balls, two strikes. Talked about it before, but..
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you could put a price on
• 35:19
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• 35:23
  Speaker 4: It costs... Here's the set and the 0-2 pitch. Foul back.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: It costs $ 80 million a year.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: $ 80 million a year. for maintenance of Central Park. About
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: $ 30 million to follow the animals. The 0-2. Swing and
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: a foul down the left side. Still an 0-2 count.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I believe it with the amount of lawns they need
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: to cut and just shrubbery and all that. But then
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  Speaker 2: there's the ice rink and some other facilities that they
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: have in there.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: You can see it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: The lakes, the ponds, the softball fields, pickleball courts, tennis courts,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: basketball courts. Now the 0-2. Swing and a foul back
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: and out of play. It's the home of a great zoo.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: And it's been.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: An iconic setting for so many movies. It's a pretty
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: incredible piece of property. 2-1 Yankees, eighth inning, D.O. 2.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Check swing, did he go? No on the appeal at third.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: One ball, two strikes on Ben Rice. Two down, nominee
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: on Rice. Two for ten in the series. Festa's ready.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Here it comes.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Inside, 2-2. And it's a challenge by Austin Hedges. Innings over.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Austin Hedges was correct. Rice out looking. Cleveland's got one
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: more shot. 2-1, New York has the lead. The ninth
• 37:17
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• 37:36
  Speaker 2: David Bednar, the Yankee closer, has not worked since Sunday.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: He inherits a 2-1 lead. Travis Pazana leading off the
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: top of the ninth for Cleveland. Fernando Cruz had a 1-2-3-8. Bednar,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: fastball split curve. The pitch, and he went outside and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: missed with a splitter. Well, as much success as Cruz
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: had last night and today with a split finger, Will
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that rub off on Bednar? The 1-0. A wave job.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Threw him another splitter down and in.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: 1-1.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Bednar, 12 for 14 in saves.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: He has a record of 1-3. ERA, 450.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: He's been hit pretty hard. against the pitch. Swing and
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: a miss. Nothing but splitters. Well, he has seen how
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: good Cruz... was for two straight days against Cleveland, throwing
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the split, and that's all he's throwing. Travis Bozzano, who
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: today has grounded out, struck out, flied out. 1-4-11 in
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the series. Cleveland had their one run and two hits
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: in the fourth, nothing other than that. Now the 1-2. Outside, 2-2.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: That might have been a show-me fastball. Bednar throws mid-90s.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Then with San Diego, Pittsburgh, now New York.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: The pitch.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: And a swing and a chopper off the plate near
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the foul line at first. Bednar gloves and fires overhand to.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Get Mazzana at first. One down. Here's Angel Martinez 0-3.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: He'll bat left-handed. Bednar.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Last year with the Pirates and Yankees had 27 saves.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: He had a 39-save season three.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Years ago in Pittsburgh. Chase DeLauder on deck to bat
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: for Stuart Fairchild.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: We're in the ninth. Cleveland's down 2-1. Now the pitch.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: And it's fouled at the plate. He is just going
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: after Cleveland with a split-fingered fastball. Cleveland got its only
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: run in the fourth inning. Jose Ramirez singled. Reese Hoskins walked.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: And eventually Stuart Fairchild, an RBI single. The pitch fouled
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: at the plate off the leg of Martinez who's hobbling.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Another splitter.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: The Yankees, they got a run in the fourth on
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: a jazz chism sack fly and then took the lead
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: on a two-out RBI single in the seventh by Ryan McMahon.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Two to one, Yankees lead trying to avoid being swept
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: by Cleveland. 0-2 the count on Martinez. Bednar's pitch.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Swung on.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Grounded to second. Routine for Chisholm. Fires it over. And
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Cleveland's down to its last outage. Chase DeLauder batting with
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: two down. Base is empty. DeLauder pinch hitting. He's one
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: for two as a major league pinch hitter.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: On the air batting 258.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Seven homers.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: 32 runs batted in. New York 2, Cleveland 1. Two down,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: top of the ninth. David Bednar looking for save number 13.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: He fires. De Lauder takes a strike. That may be
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the last fastball chase De Lauder sees.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Outfield. A touch the other way toward left. Medium deep.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: The next offering. And it's a little bit low, a
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: split finger, challenged by the Yankees. Well, the video board
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: hasn't been working, but now it's working for the challenge,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: and the result is Cleveland wins. Yankees out of challenges.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: So Chase DeLauder, with two down bases empty and Cleveland
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: down a run, has a 1-1 count. Bednar's next pitch. Outside,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: ball two, two and one. The rookie out of James
• 42:31
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• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Lauder in a hitter's count. Here's the 2-1 offering. Swung on,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: grounded to second. Chisholm gobbles, throws, and the Yankees win
• 42:48
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  Speaker 2: It's the Bronx, where the New York Yankees salvaged the
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• 45:56
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• 46:00
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• 46:17
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  Speaker 2: a smattering of play this afternoon in the big leagues.
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  Speaker 2: it by a final score of 6-4.
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• 48:46
  Speaker 2: 2-1 New York victory over the Guardians. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 2: Guardians Wrap-Up following a 2-1 Yankees win. And it was
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland that took the lead in this game. Their only
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: run coming tonight. In the top half of the fourth inning,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez had led off the inning with a single.
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  Speaker 2: He stole second, advanced to third later in the inning,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and that brought Stuart Fairchild to the plate looking for
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: his first hit as a Guardian, and he was there
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: with two down in the inning. Chance here for the
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  Speaker 2: Guardians to snap this scoreless tie. Two outs, here's the pitch,
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  Speaker 2: and it's swung on, lined, left side, base.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Hit in the left field.
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  Speaker 2: Scoring is Ramirez and Stuart Fairchild on his first hit
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: as a Cleveland Guardian puts the Guardians in front, 1-0.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: But that was it offensively today for the Guardian. Slade
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Ciccone pitched well. He did allow a run in the
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: bottom half of the fourth inning to tie it on
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: a sack fly by Jazz Chisholm. And then in the
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: seventh with reliever Cody Hoyer on, an RBI base hit
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: with two down from Ryan McMahon proved to be the
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: game winner as that brought in Chisholm from third base
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: with a second run for New York on the day.
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  Speaker 2: And that was all they would need in a 2-1
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: victory over Cleveland. Final line score for the Guardians, a
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: run on two hits, no errors. Cleveland stranded five men,
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  Speaker 2: two runs, five hits, no errors, and three men left
• 50:15
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• 50:20
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  Speaker 2: Guardians come up short today in the series finale by
• 52:44
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• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the postgame thoughts of manager Stephen Vogt.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: Steven, what did you make of the job that Slade
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: did to here today?
• 52:54
  Speaker 20: Slade was phenomenal. Six innings, one run. Did a great
• 52:57
  Speaker 20: job keeping us in that game. We knew kind of
• 52:59
  Speaker 20: going into it, it needed to be a low-scoring affair.
• 53:01
  Speaker 20: I mean, Rodon was special over there as well, but
• 53:05
  Speaker 20: I thought Slade threw the ball excellent, did his job,
• 53:07
  Speaker 20: gave us six innings of one-run baseball.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: How about Stuart Fairchild getting his first hit as a guardian,
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: also drawing the first run?
• 53:13
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I thought, like we know, we knew Stu. We
• 53:16
  Speaker 20: saw him a little bit at spring training. He's been
• 53:18
  Speaker 20: hitting really well in Columbus and he's historically been really
• 53:21
  Speaker 20: good off left-handed pitching so good to see him get
• 53:23
  Speaker 20: his first hit obviously a big RBI there for us
• 53:25
  Speaker 20: and yeah really exciting for Steve.
• 53:28
  Speaker 21: Would you make the strategy with the three righties at
• 53:31
  Speaker 21: the top given that it was the one that produced
• 53:33
  Speaker 21: the rally?
• 53:34
  Speaker 20: Yeah I mean it's not the strategy necessarily it's just
• 53:37
  Speaker 20: we want to put our best hitters up there at
• 53:39
  Speaker 20: the top like always and obviously I don't know if
• 53:42
  Speaker 20: there was a configuration today that would have led to
• 53:44
  Speaker 20: more hits. I mean, Rodon was really good, got a
• 53:46
  Speaker 20: lot of swing and miss against us, made pitches when
• 53:48
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• 53:50
  Speaker 9: Slade was using the cutter.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: A lot today. He talked about how he was throwing
• 53:53
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• 53:56
  Speaker 20: I thought he changed shapes with it. He was able
• 53:58
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• 53:59
  Speaker 4: I thought the curveball was really good today.
• 54:01
  Speaker 20: I thought he threw a lot more curveballs than we've seen.
• 54:03
  Speaker 20: He and Hedgie did a really nice job.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: What do you think of the series? Yeah, any time
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: we win a series, we're happy.
• 54:09
  Speaker 20: Obviously, we would have loved to have gotten a sweep today,
• 54:11
  Speaker 20: and that was definitely a game we felt like we
• 54:13
  Speaker 20: could win. We were in it the whole way. We
• 54:15
  Speaker 20: hit some balls hard right at people. Just weren't able
• 54:17
  Speaker 20: to get enough going to score more than the one run.
• 54:19
  Speaker 20: But I'm really proud of the way our guys bounced
• 54:21
  Speaker 20: back after a tough homestand. And, you know, get on
• 54:24
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• 54:28
  Speaker 4: What did you think of him? I thought Cody was
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: pretty good.
• 54:32
  Speaker 20: Obviously the walk hurt and then the stolen base wild
• 54:34
  Speaker 20: pitch kind of got to him. But, I mean, really
• 54:36
  Speaker 20: it was a walk and a seeing eye single. So
• 54:39
  Speaker 20: I thought Cody stepped up in a big spot facing
• 54:41
  Speaker 20: the middle of their order on a day where we
• 54:43
  Speaker 20: needed him to. And I thought he threw the ball
• 54:44
  Speaker 20: really well. Just like I said, a walk to Chisholm
• 54:47
  Speaker 20: and the stolen base kind of led to it.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: But I thought Cody threw.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: The ball great.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: So there you have it. Still a quality series for
• 54:58
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• 55:00
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• 55:03
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• 55:08
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• 55:11
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• 55:16
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  Speaker 4: On NewsRadio 570. Dave Thomas should be under my lines.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Hardest working state... Let me do the proper introduction, Dave,
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: before you do that. It's okay, please.
• 56:19
  Speaker 22: Hardest working state rep I've seen in 41 years who
• 56:22
  Speaker 22: actually is a public servant working for the people.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Here's Dave Thomas. Now the Hey Ron, please.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Hey Ron. Okay.
• 56:31
  Speaker 22: I tell you, just like we rehearsed it, Dave.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Just like we rehearsed it. Okay. Can you... I would
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: like you to talk about..
• 56:41
  Speaker 22: And it is now getting some national attention on radio
• 56:43
  Speaker 22: talk shows as well, the fraud in Ohio and what's, what,
• 56:47
  Speaker 22: you know, what's the latest, is it the Somalian community?
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: What's going on with that? Talk to our listeners.
• 56:54
  Speaker 22: It's so irritating for me as a tax paying citizen
• 56:57
  Speaker 22: here in Ohio. And I'm so frustrated with, uh, governor DeWine.
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 57:04
  Speaker 11: Um, handful of things here. So first next Wednesday, uh,
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: We are having our final kind of session for this month.
• 57:14
  Speaker 11: You will see us in session on Tuesday, Wednesday, possibly Monday.
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: We'll be voting out. They've been having hearings every day
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: this week, compiling a huge Medicaid fraud bill. We will
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: be voting on that, passing it. The question will be,
• 57:29
  Speaker 11: how will the governor react? But you will see strong
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: action happening. Wednesday, I can call and explain kind of
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: what's in the bill. They're still compiling everything.
• 57:38
  Speaker 22: Okay, no, no, no. Take me slow on this. There's
• 57:42
  Speaker 22: going to be a bill that you guys are introducing
• 57:44
  Speaker 22: on Wednesday?
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: We're passing on Wednesday.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: All right, to the House. Then it would go to
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: the Senate. Correct?
• 57:54
  Speaker 11: Well, it'll actually be, and it's one of the reasons
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: we're going to have two session days, and it will
• 57:59
  Speaker 11: be probably a 2 or a 3 a.m.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Session.
• 58:02
  Speaker 11: It will be going back and forth between the chambers.
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: There's already essentially a joint agreement that we will take
• 58:08
  Speaker 11: action on Medicaid fraud that day.
• 58:13
  Speaker 22: Okay, so once the House passes it, it has to
• 58:17
  Speaker 22: be passed by the Senate, does it not?
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: All right, and then once that passes, is it a
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: done deal?
• 58:25
  Speaker 11: No, then it has to go to the governor's office.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, see, this is what, how long is this going
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: to take?
• 58:31
  Speaker 22: Let me do, believe it or not, I have to
• 58:33
  Speaker 22: do a commercial break just as we get started.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Just bear with me. I want to take this slow
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: and easy so we all understand it. Hardest working state rep.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: We're glad to have him. Dave Thomas, back in a minute.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: 570 WKBN. All right, back to it with Ron Ferb.
• 58:48
  Speaker 22: Okay, so Dave Thomas, you guys put a bill together,
• 58:52
  Speaker 22: and what will this bill do?
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: So this bill, it's not currently... finished so i don't
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: know exactly all the different mechanisms of it it will
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: be done and passed by the house and the goal
• 59:06
  Speaker 11: is actually to have it also passed by the Senate
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: by Wednesday. The base of the bill essentially kind of
• 59:15
  Speaker 11: looks at what went wrong with some of the fraud side.
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: So providers not having any follow-up with making sure that
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: they're actually going to the houses, providers doing services without
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: prior authorization, oversight of huge anomalies, which has happened in
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: Franklin County, where certain zip codes have far outlandishly high
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: rates of Medicaid participation.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: Are these the Somalian areas?
• 59:49
  Speaker 23: Yes.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 59:50
  Speaker 11: And As a side note, so on Wednesday, there's two
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: big kind of announcements that just happened yesterday and today.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: You're talking yesterday or next, this coming Wednesday?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 11: This coming Wednesday, next week, will be the day that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 11: we pass the Medicaid fraud bill.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: But yesterday, there was actually a hearing in Washington, D.C.,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: where we had our auditor of state, we had Representative
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 11: Mike Davila, who has been kind of leading the charge
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: in the House, and we had the Senate Minority Leader,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 11: testify in front of the House Oversight Committee, which has
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 11: been doing testimonies and changes on national fraud in Minnesota, Ohio.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: And the Auditor State and Reptivilla testified on some of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: the things that they've been finding. For example, there has
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 11: not been the proper or correct financial checks for folks
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: that are actually applying. You could actually be far above
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 11: the income thresholds but they've not been really checking to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: see who's actually been applying for Medicaid, for example. That's
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 11: been one of a huge kind of fraud slash abuse
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 11: side that the auditor state has found this year.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 22: All right, so individuals that are getting it who shouldn't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 22: be getting it because income-wise they don't qualify. But I mean,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 22: we're so interested in, after we saw the leering centers
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 22: and the hospice and transportation, and no one was actually there,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 22: we're all interested in that aspect of the fraud in
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 22: ohio too yet and.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 11: That so that's where your international populations are officially working
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 11: all together signing people up maybe maybe not real um...
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 11: services on paper but they're not actually doing them in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 11: real life the chair of the oversight committee in washington
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: dc congressman gill out of texas asked the minority leader
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: of the Senate, Ohio Senate, during testimony yesterday, do you
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 11: think Somali immigration has been good for Ohio?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: I'll answer it. Hell no.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: She, though, said that that question was bringing her to tears,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: and how could someone ask a question like that that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: could hurt our communities?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I'll wait. I want everyone to hear this.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Who asked this question? Give me the..
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: So this is Congressman Brandon Gill.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: Out of Texas.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Asked the following question.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: He asked, as the chairman of the Oversight Committee, to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: the Ohio Senate Minority Leader, Nicky Antonio, out of Cleveland,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 11: given all of the fraud issues, the zip code, the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: immigration kind of targeting that we've seen with the Medicaid aspect,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: is all of the Somali immigrant population been good for Ohio?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 22: Now, doesn't that appear to you to be an asinine question?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 22: Why would you even ask a question like that when
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 22: we're talking about millions and billions of stealing money? I mean,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 22: can you elaborate on this for me? Because this is ridiculous.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: Well, and that's exactly why he asked it, because it's
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: such a simple question. And again, we've had all these
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: immigrant populations come in. And if there's all this fraud here,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: everyone should be on the same page. That has been
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 11: bad for Ohio. But our Senate Minority Leader couldn't answer
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 11: the question and said that that was a question that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 11: would hurt our communities here in Ohio.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: No, this is a Democrat. So you have a Democrat
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Senate candidate.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 22: Minority leader who couldn't answer the question about a community
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 22: of people that haven't assimilated and are stealing millions and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 22: billions of dollars. Is that a fair statement?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 24: Absolutely.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 11: And that just shows we..
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 22: What a disappointment as a citizen of Ohio that someone
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 22: in the legislature cannot sit there as a citizen of
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 22: Ohio and say, stealing and ripping off the taxpayers to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 22: this degree is unacceptable, and no, they're not a good addition.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 22: How difficult is that to answer that question?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Stay tuned. Dave Thomas is going.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 22: To elaborate more on this. Don't lose your place, all right?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 22: I want to hear more of what you've got to say.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 22: Hang in there. He's always interesting when we have him on.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 22: State Rep Dave Thomas, a true public servant, back in
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 22: a minute.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 10: 730 to 5, Saturday, 8 to noon.
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  Speaker 4: WKBN.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 22: 433 in the afternoon. We're at 85 degrees on a Thursday,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 22: June 4th. State Rep Dave Thomas is with me. Do
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 22: you know how as an Ohio citizen, because, I mean,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 22: you're in the legislature, I sit back here and to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 22: hear somebody ask that question, who's the Senate minority leader,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 22: and the question, once again, just so our listeners can
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 22: hear it, she was asked what?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 11: She was asked, is the Somali immigration in Ohio a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: good thing for Ohio?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 22: Now, this is a community where we have all this
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 22: fraud going on in Ohio, stealing millions and potentially adding
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 22: up to billions of dollars. But let's just go with
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 22: millions of dollars and not assimilating into our culture. So
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 22: I can sit here and say to you, the answer
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 22: to that is no. It has been a negative response.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 22: And this woman answered, the Senate Democrat, minority leader in Ohio,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 22: answered it how?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 11: She said, that question brings me to tears, and I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: can't answer something that could be hurtful to our communities.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Now, folks, I want you all to hear this.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 22: This is a Democrat who can't stand there and say,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 22: people that are stealing millions of dollars through fraudulent means...
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 22: fears their tongue so much they can't sit there and say,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 22: this is horrific.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Your comments, please.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 11: And I tell you that just because over the next week,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 11: you're going to hear a lot, and that goes back
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 11: to our earlier conversations of when we're looking to reform
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 11: and to fix the system, there's so much that needs
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 11: done that you're going to hear all this pushback. And
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 11: this is one of them, that these folks are good,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 11: don't don't go after everyone, go after just small numbers,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: when really we have to almost wholesale change how we
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 11: do Medicaid here in Ohio. And that's just one example
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 11: of the pushback and resistance. That committee yesterday was very
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 11: positive to help kind of highlight some of the things
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 11: that have gone wrong. And then today, the acting U.S.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 11: Attorney General The FBI director, our attorney general, our auditor
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 11: of state, and legislative leadership actually had a press conference
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 11: this morning. There is now a formal federal and state partnership,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 11: task force essentially, with the FBI, with law enforcement, that
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 11: will go even further in terms of some of the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 11: international side. You asked last week, will any of this
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 11: money ever be returned? Now we actually have some of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 11: those criminal resources. to go after a ton of people.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 22: Yeah, but I mean, listen, you're never going to get
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 22: the money back.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's spent, it's stolen, it's hidden. I mean,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: you're never going to get the money back.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 22: I just want justice for the people that have, that
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 22: have stole huge sums of money. I mean, I'm looking
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 22: for justice. I'm looking for people that don't assimilate. I'm
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 22: looking for people that came here and are committing these
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 22: crimes to be taken out of this country and, or, Well,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 22: I would rather they be deported because if you put
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 22: them in jail anymore, it's never long enough for this
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 22: kind of stuff. So, consequently, they get a slap on
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 22: the wrist and I'm getting a nervous breakdown.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 11: Now, just this week, there were 14 folks. Well, just
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 11: this week, as an example, the Attorney General announced there
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 11: are 14 individuals who he's arrested. He's charging with Medicaid fraud.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 11: about $ 50 million just from those 14 individuals. These are
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 11: examples of in the smaller community here in Franklin County
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  Speaker 11: who have been signing folks up for services they're not
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 11: actually providing, who have been using... I heard an ad
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 11: on the radio program about giving out your Medicaid or
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 11: your Medicare number, who have been using stolen Medicaid numbers
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 11: to sign up folks for services. All these different things.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: That kind of add up.
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  Speaker 11: So that was just this week, just announced yesterday as well.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 11: So a lot more of those types of things will
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 11: be coming too. Like you said, all this adds up,
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  Speaker 11: and it's just a culture of, frankly, waste and abuse
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  Speaker 11: in the Medicaid system. We ultimately need a new governor
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 11: to change.
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  Speaker 22: The same community does it in, tampon Tim's Minnesota that are,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 22: that's doing it here. We got the second largest Somali community.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 22: They say next to Minnesota in the same culture did
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 22: it there and they're doing it here. So I'm not
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 22: afraid to offend the community because it's, it's just stealing.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 22: You either assimilate or you don't, but you don't come
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 22: and rip off millions of dollars. Now, getting the money back,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 22: that money's gone if they send it to Somalia or
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 22: they spend it. And they're looking at us as a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 22: bunch of damn fools. But that jeopardizes the health of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 22: both Medicaid and Medicare when you have people stealing money
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 22: like this. And I am so damn disappointed in DeWine.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 22: I mean, he just and I pray that Vivek is successful,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 22: because if you get a liberal like Amy Acton in there,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 22: Good luck with ever getting justice here. I mean, because
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 22: we don't want to offend anybody, even if they're a
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 22: group of criminals.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm done. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 11: No, you're spot on. Last week, Favek had a press
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 11: conference with our legislative leadership and the auditor of state
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 11: and attorney general office to essentially say that of all
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 11: the different kind of changes, just wholesale culture change with
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 11: the Medicaid on top of all these different protections. And
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 11: I'm not aware of anything she has put out. I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 11: think she is essentially probably taking the position that, hey,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 11: there's really not that big of an issue here. We
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 11: can't change the system because then people will be hurt.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 11: And there's a very stark difference between these two campaigns
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 11: and how they're approaching, again, half of the state's budget
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 11: and how much of taxpayer dollars is going out for
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: these programs.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: It represents to me such a dramatic difference. in these
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: two parties.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 22: You see it in Minnesota with the Democrats, and now
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 22: I'm seeing it in Ohio with the Democrats. I'm really
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 22: disappointed in the Republicans. I mean, DeWine knows this happened
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 22: under their leadership. I mean, is it fair to me
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 22: to say, hey, Governor, where were you all this time? Hey, Auditor,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 22: where were you all of this time? Hey, Attorney General,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 22: where were you all of this time? Why was this
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 22: going on? How did this happen? Why can't I hold
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 22: some of these folks accountable? It doesn't matter to me
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 22: if they're Republicans.
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  Speaker 11: It takes a, and it's horrible to think of this
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 11: this way, but it is. It takes a crisis of
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 11: this type of level for us to even broach topics
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 11: that are usually considered taboo, which is touching Medicaid and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 11: improving how Medicaid actually is.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 22: Well, you're saving Medicaid for the people that are stealing it, money,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 22: and hurting it financially. You're saving Medicaid and Medicare. You're
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 22: not hurting it.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 23: Exactly.
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  Speaker 11: Exactly. And that's how we approach it. That's how, I mean, frankly,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: the facts are. But just like with a lot of
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 11: these other entitlements, and this is not an entitlement, but
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 11: it's in that same kind of bucket, whenever you start
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 11: broaching changes... that's when all of the interest groups, all
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 11: the different folks that are benefiting, come out and claim
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 11: you're hurting kids, you're putting people on the streets, you're
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 11: taking food out of.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: Babies' mouths. It's a load of crap.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 11: And then folks kind of back away. So we have,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 11: I mean, frankly, this is an almost once-in-a-generation opportunity to
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 11: actually really change the system and how it's been operating
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 11: here in the state. There's even talk about taking away,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 11: which was unheard of as well, that expansion that John
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 11: Kasich did. We've been eating away at it. We're actually
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 11: just taking it away completely and being able to really
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 11: hone in back in then on the money that this
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 11: is actually supposed to be for those folks that cannot work.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 22: Here's what I've learned. I mean, here's what I've learned, folks.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 22: And make no mistake. There isn't a Democrat that would
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 22: have been any better, because I know how these Democrats, well,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 22: you're explaining how these Democrats view this. But I'm going
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 22: to tell you something. From a Republican standpoint, John Kasich
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 22: was a disappointment as governor, and Mike DeWine has been
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 22: a disappointment as governor. I mean, it doesn't matter to
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 22: me that they're Republicans. I'm not a cheerleader. John Kasich
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 22: was a disappointment, and he's a disappointment to me today,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 22: as Mike DeWine is. Good riddance to him. I think
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 22: Vivek will be different. If he wins, if he wins.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 22: I saw a poll today, incidentally, Dave Thomas, where they
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 22: were saying that Sherrod Brown is ahead. And I'm thinking
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 22: to myself, of course, I don't know whether to believe
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 22: polls or not, but it said Sherrod Brown is ahead
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 22: of John Husted. And I'm thinking, here's Sherrod Brown. It's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 22: been around forever. And Sherrod Brown backed every wacky thing
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 22: that Joe Biden stood for. open borders, men can have babies,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 22: all the craziness of the Democrats. Sherrod Brown was there
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 22: backing it all the way.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: The war on coal. Yeah.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 22: So you would say, well, let's vote for Sherrod Brown
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 22: over Houston. Well, that's just stupid. He supported all this,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 22: all the problems that Biden created. He's in support of them.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 22: And his philosophy hasn't changed at all. Like you say,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 22: the war on coal and that kind of stuff. All right,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 22: I got it off my chest.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: So this bill..
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 11: You're right, the polls are close. The polls are close. Oh,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 11: the polls are close. And I keep hearing the people,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 11: we cannot take this election for granted. You know, you
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 11: may be disappointed, upset. I am too about kind of
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 11: where the economy is and where things are. But we're
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 11: seeing just if we stay home, who we're actually electing
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 11: by staying home.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 11: And it will be that much worse if we do that,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 11: that much worse.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 22: So Wednesday, you have this bill, and hopefully that'll solve
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 22: some of this stuff. So your preventive action, for everybody
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 22: to know, is just review it for our listeners.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: You're doing what?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 11: So this bill will essentially add in all of the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 11: different protections that we've had vetoed. over the past three budgets,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 11: things like GPS checking, like prior approval before billing, things
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 11: like automatic kind of closure of providers if there are
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 11: kind of suspected irregularities in their billing, extra oversight and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 11: auditing of high-use areas, such as here in Franklin County
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 11: with the small population. So Medicaid is actually not an
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 11: area I've dived into at all. So I'm only touching
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 11: the surface of what the bills are going to be doing.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 11: I'll have a better kind of explanation next week for
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 11: you after we kind of see everything that's in there.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 11: But I encourage folks, you can actually watch the Medicaid
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 11: hearings and see firsthand what some of the questions are,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 11: what the back and forth is on the Ohio channel.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 11: Anyone can watch them. They've been meeting a ton this week.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when I say basketball playoffs, they're watching the Ohio Channel.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 25: I know.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: We're nerds.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 22: Yeah, but we shall see how that happens. Now, let
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 22: me shift gears because we have a limited amount of
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 22: time today, legal show at 5. Data centers and the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 22: cost of data centers in general, I want you to
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 22: talk about that, and the cost of electricity.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 11: I have a good news for you. Here's good news
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 11: number two. So the Trump administration just announced today new funding.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 11: They're giving roughly $ 700 million to 13 different coal plants
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 11: across the country to essentially boost them up, make improvements
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: to them, and actually have their output be even stronger.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 11: So trying to reinforce current coal plants, And they're building, actually,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 11: they're backing the building of two additional coal plants.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: In Ohio or where?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 11: Not in Ohio. I'm looking at the announcement right now.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 11: I don't know where. But it is not Ohio. The
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 11: new plants that we have, the seven new ones, are
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 11: natural gas. And then perinuclear power plant expanding. But these
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 11: are across the country, it looks like. So he's using
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 11: the War Powers Act to essentially say... electricity, power supply
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 11: is a national security priority. And so we're granting these dollars.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 11: We're boosting up the coal plants. So I know you're
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 11: a big focus on coal. So that was a good
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 11: thing I saw this morning.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 17: Right.
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  Speaker 22: I would like to see it happen where it benefits
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 22: me or in my grid area, if you will. I
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 22: had heard a rumor, incidentally, I don't know if it's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 22: fact or fiction, where they're talking about putting, it wouldn't
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 22: surprise me, a data center where that Samus plant used
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 22: to be because it's uh ideal locations because of the
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 22: transmission lines and so there have you.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: Heard that at all.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: I have not but that's that kind of is the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 11: perfect example of ohio is prime and ready for these
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 11: things um so we shouldn't then be giving away the
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 11: farm as we say to bring them here but more
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 11: than likely um But on data centers, actually, same thing.
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  Speaker 11: There will be a bill next Wednesday that is the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 11: result of the Select Committee on Data Centers. Three members
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 11: of Republican House membership, one Democrat, same on the Senate,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 11: have been meeting several days a week, two weeks ago,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 11: last week, this week, next week, hearing from regular citizens,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 11: from business groups, utilities, energy folks, on all different ideas
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 11: about what state kind of parameters and guardrails should be
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 11: on the data center side. And one of those is
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 11: my House Bill 706, Representative Rader, which essentially prevents that
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 11: cost shifting of the electricity side. We had a three-hour-long
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 11: hearing last night on Energy Committee, ended at 7, where
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 11: we heard from a whole bunch of folks talking about
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 11: this bill, this concept, which we're hoping will be put
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 11: into the data center bill that passes next Wednesday. That's
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 11: one of several different kind of components to us putting
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 11: guardrails around data centers, but this idea that data center
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 11: comes in and that cost should not then be shifted
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 11: to those other payers that are already there on the grid.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 11: Everyone supports it in concept, but once you get down
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 11: to the nitty-gritty, that's where there's disagreements, but I'm pretty
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 11: hopeful that that will be in the final bill that
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 11: was passed next Wednesday.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 22: Yeah, I would like to see, I mean, are we
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 22: going to put anything in there, when you say guardrails,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 22: are we going to put anything in there to try
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 22: to say you've got to be self-sufficient when it comes
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 22: to providing the power that you're going to need for
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 22: this stuff, and B, we're not going to give you
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 22: any tax abatements at all?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so those are the other kind of buckets of
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 11: things that will likely be in this bill. Closed-loop water,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 11: for example. incentivizing or requiring that they be placed on
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 11: brownfields or in non-agriculture, non-developed land. And I've submitted an
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 11: amendment to just take away that sales tax abatement. I
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 11: don't know exactly where that is yet. I'm still pushing it.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 22: Right, but I mean, the governor, he paused it, but
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 22: you want to make it permanent to take it away.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 22: But I want to take away any type of property
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 22: tax abatement.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 11: And I don't know. That's a good question. I actually
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 11: encouraged kind of using that as the carrot. Like, essentially,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 11: I'm not sure if we can legally, I think we
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 11: can tell communities you cannot provide these abatements locally because
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 11: it's all local decision, essentially, of the property tax side.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 11: what a city is going to give to.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 22: A data center. They're all going to ask for it
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 22: because it's just nature doing business. But you can answer
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 22: the question by saying, no, we're not doing it.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: I go back.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 22: Once again, we're the sweet spot weather-wise. We have the water.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 22: We have the weather. We have the transmission lines.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: They need us.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 22: We don't need to be giving them any breaks at all.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 22: We should be getting all the benefits. Now, there was
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 22: a caller of mine that said, you know, another thing
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 22: that should be in these bills is there should be
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 22: ramifications in these bills to say, because technology changes awful fast,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 22: that if you abandon these data centers, because they could
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 22: in 10 years, that how are you going to dismantle
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 22: them or how is that process going to take place
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 22: instead of sticking to taxpayers?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 11: I wish you could see my face because I'm smiling
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 11: really big right now. That's a smart caller. Tell them
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 11: to reach out because actually that's another bucket. This concept,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 11: we have this in place. If a solar farm or
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 11: a wind farm comes into an area, the developers have
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 11: to have on.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, stand by. I stand by.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 22: I've got to pause again. That's my caller G2 that
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 22: brought that up. He is an extremely smart caller.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, hang on. Back with Dave Thomas right after this.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 22: News Radio 570 WKBN. Back to it, Ron Verb, 453
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 22: in the afternoon. We're at 84 degrees with State Rep.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: Dave Thomas.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 22: So the bottom line is technology changes quickly, and who
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 22: knows what's going to be the case in five or
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 22: ten years. And they could walk away from these huge
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 22: buildings or these facilities, and perhaps we can't repurpose a building,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 22: but there has to be something on the hook to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 22: not stick the community or the taxpayers with cleaning up
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 22: the mess as far as– if we have to get
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 22: it back to the mother nature and that kind of stuff.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: And you would agree with that?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 11: Yes, 100%. We already require that actually for coal mines,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 11: and we require it for solar fields and for wind farms,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 11: where if you come in, you develop it, you essentially
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 11: have bonds, reclamation bonds is what they're called, and where
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 11: you're prepaying essentially for coal the decommissioning or the restoration
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 11: back to what it was prior for that property. And
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 11: that's not currently something that we require in state law
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 11: for data centers, but that has actually been one of
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 11: the kind of like universal agreements of most folks that, yeah,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 11: that just, that makes sense because you're right. You know,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 11: these are essentially large warehouses with a whole bunch of
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 11: computers inside. And I think the first computer took up
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 11: about the same size as a small warehouse. Today, obviously,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 11: very different. So these may become not as necessary over
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 11: the years. And we should have some type of requirement
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 11: that they kind of return themselves back. So if I
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 11: had to bet, that requirement will be in the language
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 11: that we pass next Wednesday as well. And then I'm
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 11: sure you've been hearing things about NDAs, non-disclosure agreements.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's been a huge... Huge problem, I think, growing locally.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 11: And so there will also, if I had to bet,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 11: be language discussing that. Our finance chair has a bill
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 11: to prevent all local officials, all officials, public officials from
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 11: signing NDAs.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 25: It's just bad practice.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: How can you be a public official and have a
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: nondisclosure agreement?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: The public has a right to know.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 12: Exactly.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, seriously. I mean, it's a contradiction. This is
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: the public's business. I can't sign an NDA.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think these businesses are coming. They're pressuring local officials.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: Well, they should stand up and not cave. They should say,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: we're not going to do this. I'm hopeful. Go ahead.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 11: I'm sorry. I'm hopeful and I'm almost certain that we
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 11: will have that language in this bill as well. that
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 11: you'll see on Wednesday, where essentially we prevent local officials from,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 11: and state and anyone, from signing these NDAs. This is
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 11: another kind of transparency, and the public having information is this,
• 1:26:30
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  Speaker 11: flies in the face of just good government, especially at
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  Speaker 11: your local, small community level.
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  Speaker 22: Well, I say this because time is short today. Your
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  Speaker 22: parents have to be so proud of you because I
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  Speaker 22: know this much I am. And, I mean, for all
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  Speaker 22: you're doing, you're genuinely a public servant for the folks
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  Speaker 22: best interest of the citizen and taxpayer.
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  Speaker 4: I've said this before.
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  Speaker 22: Many people will benefit as a result of the changes
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  Speaker 22: you made in property taxes and And so whether they're
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  Speaker 22: Democrats or Republicans, their increases won't be as big because
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  Speaker 22: of what legislation that you've championed and your fellow Republicans.
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  Speaker 22: And it's important for people not to know that. And
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  Speaker 22: as I say, kudos to you. But you also say,
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  Speaker 22: don't forget the other Republicans, which made it a reality,
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  Speaker 22: including Tex Fisher and some of our local Republicans here, correct?
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  Speaker 21: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 11: And I do want to give a quick shout out.
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  Speaker 11: It's my mom's 60th birthday today. So if she's listening.
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  Speaker 22: She must be extremely. You know, your mother's a great woman.
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  Speaker 22: You know why she's a great woman? Because she gave
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  Speaker 22: birth to you. That's why she's a great woman. She
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 22: raised you right. I mean, you've been raised. You're raised right.
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  Speaker 22: You earn your paycheck. You're a public servant. You're the
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  Speaker 22: hardest working state rep that I've seen in 41 years.
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  Speaker 22: You operate in the people's best interest. And your mother
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  Speaker 22: raised you properly, and it's an honor to have you
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  Speaker 22: on the program. We look forward to talking to you
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  Speaker 22: next week with an update. Thank you, State Rep. Dave Thomas.
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  Speaker 22: Or should I say governor? I want you to get
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  Speaker 22: used to hearing that, Governor Thomas.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you, Dave. All right.
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  Speaker 22: And happy 60th birthday to his mother. She's got a
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  Speaker 22: great son. News Radio 570, WKBN and Ron Furb.
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  Speaker 26: Weeknights on ABC News Live. President Trump announced a $ 700
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  Speaker 24: We will protect 14 coal plants and 42 coal mines.
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  Speaker 26: The two plans, set to be built in Alaska and
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  Speaker 4: David, are you there?
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  Speaker 24: Hmm.
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  Speaker 22: Attorney Beatrice, Attorney Melfi, anybody with us tonight, perhaps?
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  Speaker 4: There you go. I can hear you now. Guys, are
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  Speaker 21: Huh?
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  Speaker 22: Okay, I can hear David speaking to me in my headset.
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  Speaker 22: I don't know if they're hearing my audio, though, folks.
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  Speaker 4: What is... Why that would not be, I have absolutely
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  Speaker 4: Attorney Beatrice.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 22: Hey, incidentally, the radio show started like about three minutes ago,
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  Speaker 22: just so you know.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 24: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, well, Leo didn't, you know, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care.
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  Speaker 21: Didn't start three minutes ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it did. It really did start three minutes ago.
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  Speaker 22: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, in all reality, it started three minutes ago. So, uh,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell you.
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  Speaker 21: It's just me tonight.
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  Speaker 22: That's all I need is just you attorney Beatrice.
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  Speaker 4: That's all I need.
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  Speaker 21: I just need your, I've had some tragedy in my,
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  Speaker 21: in my personal life lately.
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  Speaker 4: What seems to be the problem, David?
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  Speaker 21: Ah, well, I don't know how to say this. I, uh,
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  Speaker 21: I wrecked my boat.
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  Speaker 4: Wait a minute. He wrecked his boat. You wrecked your boat.
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  Speaker 21: Yeah, I kind of did.
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  Speaker 4: What happened?
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  Speaker 21: Um, Do you want the line I'm telling people?
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  Speaker 22: No, I want every single detail. Can I just say
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  Speaker 22: this is a very expensive boat?
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 21: And then something else tragically happened to me today. I'll
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 21: get to that. I mean, I am absolutely shocked here.
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  Speaker 21: This boat of yours is extremely expensive. Can we acknowledge
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 21: that to the public? Yes.
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  Speaker 4: What happened?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 21: So when you splash the boat, meaning you take it
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 21: out of winter storage and you splash it, you put
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  Speaker 21: it in the water, okay, these systems haven't been working,
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  Speaker 21: you know, for like five months. So it takes about
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 21: three to four weeks to work out the kinks in
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  Speaker 21: the systems, okay? I was having trouble with my generator,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 21: and I was having trouble with my air conditioning. I'm
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 21: getting all those fixed. And my chart plotter, so that's
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  Speaker 21: how I navigate the boat. That's how I captain the boat,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 21: is by my chart plotter, not by line of sight. Okay,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 21: I have the radar there for the other boats that
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 21: might be coming. and a warning if the boats are
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 21: getting too close. But I use the chart plotter because
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  Speaker 21: it notifies you where all the buoys are. Now, if
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  Speaker 21: you're coming out of a bay, the green buoys have
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  Speaker 21: to be on your starboard side, okay? So when I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 21: was coming out of Put-In-Bay, it was our first visit there,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 21: my boat was traveling at an angle. And I said,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 21: what the hell is wrong with this chart plotter? So
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 21: I'm like tapping the screen. And then the chart plotter
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 21: said I was beyond the second green buoy. And when
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 21: you go beyond the second green buoy, you've got to
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 21: make a hard right to get back to my marina.
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  Speaker 21: At which time I made the hard right, and then
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 21: I looked on my port side, and there I saw
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  Speaker 21: the green buoy on my port side, which is not good.
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  Speaker 21: And before I could make a correction, I heard crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 21: So I ruined my propellers on the one pod. I
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 21: have three pods underneath my boat, and my one pod
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 21: was completely ruined. So Joseph got engaged, so I wasn't
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 21: going to be able to be on my boat last weekend,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 21: but I missed the weekend before that, and now it's
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 21: back in the water, but Quite a lot of dollars
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 21: worth of damage.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: You're lucky you didn't pop a hole in it.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 22: Yes, I'm lucky. I'm very lucky. So basically the chart
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 22: mechanism failed. Is that accurate?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 21: And the guy that helps me captain the boat says,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 21: don't rely on the chart plotter. I always rely on
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 21: the chart plotters. Because you make a track when you go.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 21: So when you go somewhere, you make a track, and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 21: then you just follow that track back. Well, something, I
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 21: got to fix whatever was, you know, monkeying around in
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 21: my chart plotter to fix that.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 22: Can I ask you a question? When you're at the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 22: steering wheel, aren't you looking out? It's called the rudder.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: Okay. When you're at the rudder, can't you look out
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: and see the buoy? Okay.
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  Speaker 21: As I told you, the chart plotter had me past
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 21: the second buoy.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: I understand.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 21: That's where the chart plotter placed me.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: Right, but when you're looking out. On my chart plotter. Right,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: but when you visually look out.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 21: So when I looked up and I looked to my left,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 21: I go, uh-oh, I'm not beyond the second green buoy.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 21: And that's when I hit bottom.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: It was too late to make the correction.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 21: Yeah, it was a little too late.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: All right, should you have been paying better attention?
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 21: I was paying attention. I should have realized that the
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 21: chart plotter wouldn't do north up or heads up. That's
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 21: how you could get your boat. You could do heads
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 21: up or north up. I like doing heads up. But
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 21: it had the stern of my boat going sideways, and
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 21: I go, what the heck's wrong with this chart plotter?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 21: So there were some kinks in my software, so I
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 21: had to get that fixed. But it's back in the
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 21: water now, and I'll be back up on my boat
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 21: this weekend.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: What does something like that cost to repair? You don't
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: want to know.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 22: No, I really do want to know. How can a
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 22: boat sit for a few months out of the water
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 22: during wintertime when everything worked? Everything worked when you put
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 22: it in storage.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 21: Because it's a machine. If you don't drive your car
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 21: for a while, if you don't drive your car for
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 21: five months... And you start it up, okay?
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: It starts just fine.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 22: Maybe you need a battery or a boost. The car
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 22: still starts. I don't have to replace the engine. I
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 22: don't have to replace the air conditioning.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 21: Well, I didn't have to replace an engine or an
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 21: air conditioning. I had to replace a pod. I had
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 21: no haul damage, thank God. And I had to replace
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 21: some props.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: I know props are very expensive. They're very expensive.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 21: They're not nearly as expensive as the pod was.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: And you mean to tell me you got all that
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: stuff fixed already?
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 16: Yep.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 21: I didn't wait for the insurance company. would insurance even
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 21: cover the yeah insurance covers my my stupidity.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 22: Okay so wouldn't your insurance go through the roof if
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 22: you turned it in this is where he this is
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 22: where he's going to despise me attorney beatrice because you
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 22: know what he said for years no listen to me
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 22: that's right people fear calling their insurance companies because if
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 22: they turn in a claim their rates go up but
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 22: they do david but now now david you made the
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 22: call don't you think your.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 21: Rate will go up now The rate for the boat
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 21: insurance is incredibly reasonable. Incredibly reasonable.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: It won't be now. You made a claim.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 24: No.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 25: Yes.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 21: So they had to shell out.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: $ 60, 000. $ 60, 000?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 21: That was after my deductible.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 4: What's your deductible?
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 15: $ 9, 000.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 21: $ 70, 000? That's about what I did in damage to the boat.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: Approximately.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 22: You know, believe me, folks, I got to just tell
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 22: the audience for a second. There's nothing I love more
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 22: than Ribbon Beatrice about stuff. I mean, I've done it
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 22: for 35 years. I love getting under his skin.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: I love Ribbon.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 22: I love what Melfi's doing to him and his colleagues
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 22: and Frank down there. But today, I can't even go there.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: I actually feel bad for him. I actually feel sorry
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 21: I've had a series of mishaps.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 4: There's more than this?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 21: Oh, way more than this.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: What else has happened here?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 21: So my wife heard things in the attic.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 21: So we called Orkin.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 21: And I tried to put in a claim for my roof.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 21: And they said, you know, I have this ridiculous deductible
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 21: for a roof for the shingles.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: Well, how old is your roof? It's probably an old
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: roof anyway.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 21: No, it's 15 years old.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: Well, a roof usually lasts 20 years. What are you
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: going to put a claim in for?
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 21: Well, I think I'm going to get it covered, so
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 21: here's what happened. So Orkin came out, they got rid
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 21: of the squirrels and the mice that were in my attic,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 21: and they left some excrement around.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: How did they get in your attic? How did the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 4: squirrels get in?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 21: This is all going to come and make sense to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 21: you in a second. Now, the insurance company doesn't cover Orkin,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 21: getting rid of animals. That's excluded from my homeowners. So
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 21: that's out of pocket, and that was really expensive. What
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 21: is real expensive? Tearing out the insulation, putting new insulation in.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 8: Why?
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: Why do you have to take the insulation out?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 21: Well, it's not healthy. I don't know how long these
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 21: animals were in there. And they could have been shitting
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 21: all over the place. I'm sorry.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: They could have been having bowel movements. Right. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 21: And, you know, the insulation is, you know, it's 36
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 21: years old. And they have this new, better stuff that
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 21: they talked my wife into because, you know, I have
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 21: to do everything else. But somehow she wanted to fix
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 21: the squirrel problem. So they gave me an outrageous quote.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 21: And she accepted it. Forget about getting a second opinion
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 21: or anything. And as they're ripping the insulation out, they
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 21: see that because of a windstorm, it opened up a
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 21: part of my roof in blue water into my attic
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 21: and onto the boards that you nail the shingles on.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 22: Right.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 21: So I had to get a brand new roof put on.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, did you do this already?
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 21: It's already done.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: They took the old.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 22: Roof off and changed those boards that got wet or
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 22: were soggy underneath, correct?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 21: Right. And I told the adjuster, do you want to
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 21: come out and inspect it? He goes, no, we already
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 21: did an inspection. So my contractor wrote it up and
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 21: sent him like 200 pictures. He took pictures of everything.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: Once he fixed it or before he fixed it?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 21: As he's fixing it. Doing it, fixing it, doing everything.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 21: I solved that problem. Orkin comes back to now finish
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 21: their job.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 21: And they brought a dumpster to dump all the old
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 21: stuff in.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 22: Right.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 21: Well, the guy that brought the dumpster, you're supposed to
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 21: put plywood or wood down, didn't do it. And he
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 21: ruined my driveway. My driveway is ruined. So I told them,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 21: my driveway is ruined. They go, well, that's not us.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 21: That's the other guy. I go, I didn't hire him.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 21: You guys hired him.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 21: So now I have to get a new driveway in,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 21: which is about.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: Because they put a dumpster, and what did it do?
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: Crack the driveway?
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 21: Crack the driveway. It lifted a block. They were moving
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 21: it around, dropping it down three times. I mean, I've
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 21: had two different cement guys out saying, yeah, your driveway's ruined.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 21: So I've got to go have a fight with them now.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 22: This is the company to get them to pay for
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 22: your new driveway. Do these people know you're a lawyer?
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 21: They're going to find out soon enough.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 21: So then today, this is all in the last three
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 21: weeks in my life.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 21: I had to go down to Georgia because my son
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 21: got engaged. Okay. So we had a little engagement party
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 21: for him, my soldier. And when I was driving.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: To the airport, Which airport?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 21: I flew out of Akron-Canton. Akron-Canton has a flight from
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 21: Akron-Canton to Savannah-Hilton Head, $ 168 round trip. I was like, yeah.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 21: Because the one thing I wanted to do was drive
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 21: down in the car with my wife and my daughter.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 21: That was something I was so looking forward to. So
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 21: I had things on Friday that they were leaving Thursday
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 21: I had to attend to, and I couldn't. Fly out
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 21: until Friday. As I'm driving to the airport, a stone
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 21: hits my window and cracks it.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: Okay? From the vehicle in front of you.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 21: So that's 100% covered. But, you know, I went to,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 21: you know, that company that always advertises. And then they go, well,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 21: we can't get to it until June 11th. They go,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 21: June 11th? So I called someone else. They were supposed
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 21: to do it this week. They're finally doing it tomorrow.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 21: So I have a cracked windshield.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: Was this in your Mercedes, that girl car you drive?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 21: Yeah, the girl car.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 22: Okay. That's what your colleagues say. It's a nice car,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 22: but it's like a chick car. No offense.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 21: It doesn't bother me. Nothing you say or nothing anyone
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 21: can say will bother me.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 23: Right.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 11: Sure.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 24: Okay.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 21: That's the pleasure of being me. And so I got out.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 21: I had to go to Elyria. I filled up my tank.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 21: What's today? Thursday?
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 21: I filled up my tank. On Tuesday morning, I had
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 21: to be in Elyria yesterday, then to Medina, then back
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 21: to Elyria and to the Lorain Common Police Court, then
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 21: back to my client's business, then back to Youngstown. Only
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 21: to get up this morning and go back to the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 21: Elyria Municipal Court again today.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 21: So I drive to the Elyria Municipal Court.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: Why are you driving so far?
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 21: Well, these are longstanding clients of mine.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 21: And as I am driving, my car gives me bells
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 21: and whistles for everything. So I get out of court,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 21: and my phone had exploded while I was in court.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 21: So I get out of court, and I put my
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 21: phone in the hands-free thing, and it just starts ringing
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 21: off the hook. I'm not texting. I'm not calling anyone.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 21: I'm just hitting hello. And then this client would start
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 21: saying something, and then another call would come in. I'd say,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 21: hold on, and then I'd hit the button, and I'd
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 21: put that person on hold. Tell that other person, you
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 21: have to call me back in 10 minutes. Let me
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 21: solve this client's problem. Got back to the other client. Now,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 21: I'm not paying attention to any of my gauges, okay? Now,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 21: this Mercedes will give you, if you don't put on
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 21: the seatbelt, it will incessantly beep until you put on
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 21: the seatbelt. It's like, okay, let me put on the
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 21: seatbelt because this is very annoying. It has automatic braking.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 21: It has warning signs if you get too close. Warning,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 21: you know, all this other stuff. The one thing the
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 21: Germans didn't engineer is when you're low on gas to say, hey,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 21: low on gas. There's just a little thing in the
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 21: corner that says low fuel. No warning signs. No flashing,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 21: no nothing. So I was talking to this client, concentrating
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 21: on the road, trying to solve this client's problem. And
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 21: all of a sudden, my car starts slowing down. And
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 21: I go, what the heck's wrong with my car? I
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 21: ran out of gas on the freeway. I had to
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 21: pull the car over. So it's hot as heck. I'm
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 21: out of gas.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: Are you in a suit and tie?
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 28: Yes.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: You're heading to court.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 21: No, actually what I was doing, because Elyria is so
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 21: close to my boat, I said, this is perfect. I
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 21: can go see my boat real quick, check on it,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 21: jump back in my car, and get to the radio
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 21: show on time.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, so this is after. Okay, I got you.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 5: This is after.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: This is last week.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 21: No, this is today.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, today. Okay.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 30: Yeah.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 21: So I ran out of gas.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 25: Yeah.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 21: I called AAA.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 21: Okay, because I.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: Have a starter.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 22: You know what they call those? I find this interesting.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 22: They refer to those as idiot calls. That's what they
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 22: call them. I mean, that's the slang. Hey, we got
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 22: an idiot call.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 24: What?
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: He ran out of gas. Okay.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 21: So I called AAA, and then they go, well, you
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 21: can stay on the phone with us, or you can
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 21: tap on this link. So I tapped on this link,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 21: and I'm talking to an AI robot. God forbid you
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 21: could talk to a human being anymore.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: It's god-awful, yeah.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 21: Okay, and so... Then they go, track the truck coming
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 21: for you. So I'm looking, and it says an hour
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 21: and 10 minutes. Now I'm going to be late for
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 21: the radio show, and there's no one else to do it.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 21: I go, uh-oh, I've got a problem solved here. So
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 21: I had a friend who lived about not even two
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 21: miles from the exit I was going to get off
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 21: to try to get gas. I called him. He went
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 21: and got me gas, came to my car, we put
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 21: it in, I went to a gas station, filled up,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 21: turned around, and drove here. So that was my lovely day.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: That's, geez, you are really on a streak, aren't you?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, you kind of wrecked your boat. You got
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: that fixed.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 21: Not kind of. Not kind of.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: It was out of the water. That's about $ 70, 000. They
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: had to haul it out of the water. I'm just
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: trying to review.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 21: You know what they charged me to haul it out?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: What's that cost?
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 21: $ 1, 000 to haul the boat out. Then I had the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 21: refrigerator and freezer full of food, so we had to
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 21: plug those in and run a big extension cord so
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 21: I didn't ruin my food.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: Man, oh, man, oh, man.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 22: I mean, so there's $ 71, 000 there.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: Then a new roof. That's got to be expensive.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 22: You don't want to know.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: You don't want to know.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 22: Well, first of all, sucking all your old insulation out
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 22: and getting all of the stuff.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: Out of your attic, very expensive. Then, of course, a
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: new roof.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 22: Then, of course, your car causing these issues and running
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 22: out of gas.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 21: Don't forget the driveway.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: And busting your driveway.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 21: That was my last couple weeks, Ron. It's great to
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 21: be me. This is from when I had Steve on
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 21: the show until now. That's all happened.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: How was the engagement of your son?
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 21: It was very nice. Very, very nice.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: So your family drove down and you flew?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 21: Yeah. My daughter and her boyfriend and my wife.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 21: And I could have thought of no better way to
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 21: spend 12 hours than in a car enclosed with my
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 21: wife and my daughter.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: So you thought to yourself, I've got to come up
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: with a reason why I can fly. Well, no.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 21: I had a hearing set. I couldn't say to the judge, hey.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 22: Sure you did sure you did i did i know
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 22: i'm not saying you didn't i'm good one though i
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 22: mean i'll go along with that i was kind of
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 22: lucky there yeah so you were able to fly down
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 22: and but it was a nice engagement do you like
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 22: the girl he's gonna marry.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 21: Oh yeah and i got to hang around with a
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 21: bunch of you know rangers and did you fit in
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 21: um That's an interesting question.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, these are.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 22: Tough guys, gun guys, conservative guys, you know, busting beer
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 22: cans on their forehead.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: That's the rosary. I hope that helps. I hope.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 21: I need some help. I need something.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. I did the whole thing.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 21: Whoever has the voodoo doll with needles sticking out of
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 21: its head with David on it, please.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 27: All right.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 22: One quick question, and then I'll go to call. So
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 22: when you were around all of these soldiers at your
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 22: son's engagement, were you intimidated?
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 12: No.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 21: They enjoyed my stories. I don't want to say they
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 21: lead boring lives, but they're in the military. Everything's rigid,
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 21: and they just got a kick out of some of
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 21: the stories I told about how crazy my life is.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 22: Yeah, I can't tell you how much I enjoy them
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 22: as well, from the bus to driveway to the roof
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 22: to the insulation to the boat. And this is just
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 22: in a week in them. few days yeah yeah i
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 22: enjoyed him running on the gas before i take calls
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 22: do you remember one of my favorite stories folks he
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 22: was coming to the radio show and uh.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 21: You had to bring i knew you were going to
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  Speaker 21: bring this up if i brought that what was what
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 21: was i going to bring up the story you're about
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 21: to tell what is that story that i ran out
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 21: of gas coming to the radio show.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: Just on tiffany boulevard right out here not far from
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: the station right.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 21: I had to walk to the station, and I had
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 21: to call someone to bring me gas, okay?
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: There.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 21: That's the story. Sometimes I don't pay attention to my
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 21: gas tank, okay?
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 21: I got bells and whistles in this Mercedes for everything.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 21: Automatic brake check, speed check.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: Warnings, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, everything.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: Every time I'm turning a corner, it's beeping something, except
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: for gas. What's wrong with these Germans?
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: Let's take some calls. Well, let's hope for a good
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: week for you.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 22: All right. That's all we have. I hope you have
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 22: a wonderful weekend. Don't leave the dock.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: Okay. Just stay in the dock. That's probably best for you.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: All right. With Attorney Beatrice, you're on the air.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 22: Air.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 4: Hello.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, just a quick aside.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 14: Instead of a legal show, so far this is sounding
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 14: more like a therapy session for a stressed-out attorney who
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 14: may really need some medication.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 4: But here's my question.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 21: I found, you know, caller, what rhymes with Thursday?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 12: What?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 14: Therapy.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 21: Vodka.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 4: No, vodka. Go ahead. What's your question, sir?
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 14: Okay, a borough in Pennsylvania is now requiring all non-owner-occupied
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 14: property owners to submit proof of homeowners insurance as part
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 14: of the town's yearly inspection. I wonder if you've heard
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 14: of it before, your thoughts as to whether that is
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 14: legal or constitutional. And the name of any public interest
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 14: firm or office that might help in any relevant case.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 21: Thank you.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 5: Enjoy your show. All right.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 21: But I'm confused by his. Is he still there?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: No, I hung up on him because he said thank you.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: And I thought he was done. Okay.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 21: So he he's saying that the township is mandating that
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 21: they have homeowners insurance or a bond. I'm not. I
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 21: have to. Let me try to look that up real
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 21: quick while we take another call.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 4: All right. You're on the air tonight with bad luck Beatrice.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: I mean Dave Beatrice. Hello, caller. Are you there? Well,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 4: you'll go back and hold. You're on the air with
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: the chain Beatrice.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 5: Hello. Hello, Ron.
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 22: Yes.
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  Speaker 23: I have a question for the attorneys here. I asked
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 23: this twice already. And the second time I asked the attorneys,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 23: I never got an answer. But I'll ask it again.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 23: And they should know what's going on.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 5: The trooper that.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 23: Was killed in an accident in Canfield on Route 11,
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 23: approximately probably about last year.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 21: Caller, caller, I can't talk about that case. And I
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 21: can't tell you why.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 20: Okay.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: All right, so there must be some litigation that they're
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: dealing with, okay? Yes, there is.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 23: Okay, thank you.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 4: You're on the air with Attorney Beatrice. Hello.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 31: Is it me?
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 22: Yes.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 31: Okay, I fell out of work in 2017, and I
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 31: suffered a contusion to the right back wall of my thorax,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 31: a fractured rib, a lesion of the right ulnar nerve.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 31: carpal tunnel in the right upper limb. And what's happening
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 31: right now is a vertebrae in my neck are squeezing
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 31: the nerves, which are stopping them from sending their impulses
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 31: for my muscles to grow. So what's happening is my
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 31: hands are just shrinking up. They're getting skinnier and skinnier.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 31: This has been going on for like five years. Well,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 31: they finally discovered that. And now I'm waiting for an
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 31: MRI from workers' comp so I can proceed with what
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 31: medical thing they want to do with me. And I've
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 31: been waiting six weeks so far. So if I were
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 31: to go pay for the MRI myself, would I negate
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 31: my claim for workers' comp instead of waiting for them?
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 31: I would work through your workers' comp.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 25: I'm shaking up.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 31: My hands are skinny.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 5: I would wait.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 21: Okay, go ahead. Let me know when you're done.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 31: I'm just saying, my hands are skinny as heck. And
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 31: I'm 71 years old, and I'm taking care of my
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 31: five-year-old nephew who And I don't want to shrivel up
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 31: like this because there's no one else to take care
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 31: of me. So it's really important that I stay alive.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 21: Thank you. It's important that all of us stay alive.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, I do.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 21: I always say it's better to be seen than viewed.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 24: All right?
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 21: So if you– what?
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 5: That was funny.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 21: It's better to be seen than viewed. Every day above
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 21: ground is a good day.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 31: Yes, I agree.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 21: How many people didn't wake up today?
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 18: Millions.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 21: I mean, I woke up jackpot. So, caller, do you
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 21: have a workers' comp lawyer?
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 31: Yes, but I called him Monday. I left him a message.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 31: I called him Tuesday. Wednesday, I spoke to his secretary,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 31: and I have an appointment to speak to him over
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 31: the phone next Monday at 3.30.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 21: Well, then wait to talk to him.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 25: Okay.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 31: If you're asking.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 21: Me my opinion... My opinion is you could screw up
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 21: your claim if you try to do something outside of
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 21: the realm of what he has going on for you.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 31: Okay, that's what I wanted to know. And just crossed
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 31: my fingers and wait. Is there any way I can
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 31: hurry him up? I realize it's a government agency.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 4: We've got to wait for the lawyer to do his job.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 21: I mean, you've got an appointment Monday. Today's Thursday. What
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 21: do you want to do? What do you want?
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 31: No, it's only been a week since I called him.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 31: I mean, come on, he couldn't pick up the phone?
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 31: I don't think I'm getting very good representation from the guy.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 21: Listen to me. Let me just tell you a story, okay,
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 21: of what lawyer life is like, besides a rock breaking
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 21: and cracking your window and going, you know, running out
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 21: of gas, okay? I filed a motion... I filed a motion.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 21: Thank you. Ron, we can go and then I'll tell
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 21: you the story. I filed a motion in a court.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 21: I'm not going to say which court, but it's not locally.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 21: I filed a motion to suppress and a motion to
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 21: continue the plea hearing that they had set for June.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 21: Let's see. What was Monday?
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 4: June 1st?
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 26: Right?
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 21: June 1st. This judge, who I've never seen this before,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 21: went into the office on Sunday morning and docketed an
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 21: entry at 7.30 a.m. on a Sunday morning, denying my motion,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 21: as if over the weekend, I'm going to look at
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 21: the docket online, okay? At 8.40 a.m. on Monday, now,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 21: this court is an hour and a half drive from me,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 21: at 8.40 on Monday, He had his staff inform me
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 21: that my motion was denied and that I'm due in court.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 21: I didn't even look at the email until Tuesday. And
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 21: I went, oh, my God, I'll bet they put a
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 21: warrant out for his arrest. And certainly they did. So
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 21: I had to take my client, who I was in
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 21: another court with, take him over to that court. This
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 21: was another kind of voodoo thing that happened to me.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 21: I said, here's my client. Can I explain to the
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 21: judge what happened?
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 12: No.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 21: You can write a letter, but you can't talk to him.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 21: He has a $ 250 bond. And I just didn't have
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 21: that cash. I mean, we don't take credit cards. I said,
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 21: do you happen to have a Huntington Bank around here?
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 21: And they go, yeah, it's literally a two-minute walk down
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 21: that street. So I said, okay. And I could see
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 21: it from the court, but it was hot and I
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 21: had my suit on. So I walk to the bank.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 21: I'm trying to find where you go into the bank at.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 21: I get to the door and it goes, lobby closed.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 21: Now I have to walk back in the heat, get
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 21: in my car, go through the drive-thru, get the money,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 21: go to the court, pay the bond, and then let
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 21: my client leave. That's something else that happened to me.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 4: So lawyers are busy.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 21: So I say that to say that a lot of times, look,
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 21: we're in the service business. I always tell the lawyers
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 21: that work for the firm, you're in the service business.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 21: People want their calls returned timely. They want their emails
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 21: returned timely. But I literally, everything has gone online. We
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 21: get flooded with emails. And we can't get to them
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 21: in a day because your phone starts ringing. Like you
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 21: come in, you go, I want to write this brief. Knock, knock, knock. Dave,
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 21: I have a question for you. Knock, knock, knock. Dave,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 21: quick question for you. Dave, quick. Phone ringing. Today, I
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 21: had three people sitting in my office. My cell phone's
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 21: going off. And the receptionist says, Dave, so-and-so on line two.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 21: And I get then an urgent email and I go, well,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 21: looks like a great day for me. Sometimes days are
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 21: like that. That's the lawyer life. I don't have an
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 21: eight to five job. I work 24-7. I keep my
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 21: phone on at night all the time. Why clients that
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 21: are close to me who I say, if you get
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 21: pulled over by the police, call me Wait until they
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 21: then ruin their case, then they call me. I said,
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 21: what did I tell you when you're pulled over by
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 21: the police? What did I tell you to say? I
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 21: invoke my right to remain silent. No, they think if
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 21: they cooperate, that's going to help them. That's just going
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 21: to help them get arrested is what it's going to
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 21: help them do. Okay, so Monday's not a long time wait, caller.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 21: Thank you very much. Ron, we have another call?
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 4: Yes, we do.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 21: The bank was closed. Okay, on that call about the insurance,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 21: Pennsylvania Municipality City Township Borough cannot require all homeowners to
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 21: carry homeowners insurance, but they can if there's a nuance
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 21: to it. They can in specific contexts. In other words,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 21: if they're renting it out and stuff like that, Some
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 21: municipalities require landlords to maintain liability insurance for rental properties,
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 21: homeowners association, mortgage lenders can require you to have it.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 21: So there is no law that says you have to
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 21: have it, but there are nuances to that law. So
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 21: that was an answer to that gentleman's question. Go ahead, Ron.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 4: Let's get another call. So on one hand you don't,
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 4: but on the other hand you do.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 21: Yeah, you never meet a one-handed lawyer because they say
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 21: on the one hand this and on the other hand that.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 21: I swear to God we make it specifically complicated just
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 21: for job protection. Like we make a rule and then
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 21: we have a hearsay rule and then there's 23 exceptions
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 21: to the hearsay rule.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 16: Okay?
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 21: We have a rule, but there always seems to be
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 21: an exception to the rule.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 14: Okay?
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 21: So that's how the law works.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 4: I hope I live long enough and you do for
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 4: you to be a judge.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 21: I will never in my career run for political office again.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 21: I was the county party chairman for the Democratic Party
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 21: for 10 years. I gave my blood, toil, and sweat.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 4: How do you like that?
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 21: I paid my dues. No, it's not a fun job.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 21: There's nothing fun about being a chairman of a political party.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 21: I mean, I'd rather now be poked in the eyes
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 21: with sharp pencils than to go back to doing that.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 22: So I can't convince you to be– I think you'd
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 22: make a great judge.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 4: I'm serious now. I'm not screwing with you.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 21: I have no desire to be a judge, zero, because
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 21: I have no idea what's floating out there in the Ethernet.
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 21: But I'll find out once I put my name on
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 21: a ballot. And so I just don't want to find out.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 21: Because Frank, he's like a little NSA agent, National Security Agency.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 21: He finds these obscure videos of me from like five
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 21: and six years ago of me, you know, acting stupid
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 21: up on the boat. And I go, where'd you get that?
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 21: He goes, I could never tell you. So I don't
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 21: know what's out there. During COVID, the bars were shutting
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 21: down at 10, but my boat was open until 2 a.m.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 21: So it was a party on my boat the whole time.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 21: I didn't engage in social distancing then.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 21: Luckily, knock on wood, I haven't gotten COVID lately.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 4: No, but you've had it, what, 18 times?
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 21: Four times in two years.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 22: No, you had a more than that every time you
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 22: went to the jail, you got COVID.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 21: No, I had it four times in two years.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 22: You've been vaccinated more than any human being I know.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 4: And boosted.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 21: And boosted.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 4: And you constantly were getting COVID.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 21: I understand that, Ron, because when you go to the
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 21: Sheriff Green Hilton, it's a petri dish of diseases. I
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 21: don't know if you realize. Shouldn't you have.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 4: Been immune to all of it? You've had it. You've
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 4: gotten vaccinated.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: Well, you would think all I break all the theories,
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: natural immunity theory.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 21: This theory, that theory. So.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: So anyhow, and then I got to give you would
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: go home. Your wife would make you live in a
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: basement because you were. positive covid i don't.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 21: Know if make me live in the basement is an
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 21: accurate way.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 4: Oh no i think it is an accurate way.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 21: No i i can't watch lifetime or hallmark i just
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 21: can't i can't sorry i can't hallmark lifetime and boston
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 21: blues i'm not i'm not doing it just not doing
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 21: it i i would rather have needles stuck in my
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 21: eyes i want to go down i have adhd really
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 21: bad and so i i have net i have Every
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 21: subscription you can want. And you know the only thing
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 21: I watch?
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 4: Is YouTube.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 21: And then I look at how long the YouTube is.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 21: If it's longer than 15 minutes, it's a no-go. It's
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 21: got to be like 10, 15 minutes. That's about how
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 21: long my attention span is.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 4: What are you watching on YouTube? Anything.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 21: It is amazing what's on YouTube. I mean, it has
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 21: been like a new discovery for me. Think of any topic...
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 21: how to fix a boat, how to fix a carburetor,
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 21: how to fix a car, how to change a flat tire.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 21: I learned how to soft-boiled eggs. My soft-boiled eggs are
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 21: rock stars now from YouTube. I'm telling you, go to YouTube,
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 21: think of a topic, put it in, there'll be a
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 21: video about it. It's amazing.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 4: You're on the air. Hello.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 22: I don't even know what that guy's all about, Dave.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 4: What? He's a.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 22: Strange character, let's just put it like that.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 4: You're on the air. Wait a second. You're on the air.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: Hello, Dave?
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 23: Sharon Alfonsi on 60 Minutes.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 14: Rupa-dup-dup. What?
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: What?
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 5: What?
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 23: You know, 60 Minutes?
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your question? Come on, try to be coherent
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 4: and put your best... Judge, she would talk to and
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 4: do an interview and the interviewee.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 23: Would say, I got her on the ropes.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 21: No, she got me on the ropes.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: What's your point? I don't know.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 21: It's about ropes and judges.
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  Speaker 4: I can't take it anymore. I just can't take it.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 21: Whatever drugs he's taking, they sound good to me.
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  Speaker 22: Try to be coherent when you call and make a
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 22: sound point. Is that expecting too much? This is a
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  Speaker 22: legal program. If you've got a legal question, in all seriousness,
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  Speaker 4: Coherent callers at 330-729-9977. 330-729-9977.
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  Speaker 22: It really is a blessing and an honor to have
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 22: Attorney David Beatrice with us. And he is sharp in
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 22: all aspects of the law. He is one of the
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 22: best attorneys.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 21: I got to tell you, the firm has had some
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 21: incredible success lately with cases. And I'm happy to announce
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 21: that on June 29th, they haven't awarded this award in
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 21: a number of years. But Frank was named Lawyer of
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 21: the Year by the Mahoney County Bar Association. And I
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 21: couldn't be more proud of Frank at 40 years old.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 21: 40 years old. And they only give that award out
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 21: for doing great legal work.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 24: Really?
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 21: That's what that award signifies. Yeah, and Frank won it.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 21: And Daniel Leslie, who's a law clerk here, and he's
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 21: in his third year of law school, applied for a
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 21: scholarship to the Mahoney County Bar Foundation and won some
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 21: scholarship money.
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  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 21: And kudos to the two of them. And we'll be
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 21: telling you more about Frank. Were you ever Lawyer of
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  Speaker 21: the Year?
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  Speaker 4: Did you ever win? I'm sorry.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 21: They don't.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Could you say that again? I didn't hear that.
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  Speaker 21: I have never won Lawyer of the Year. I was
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 21: nominated one year, and someone else beat me out. I
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 21: don't want to say who beat me out. Someone else
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 21: beat me out.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 22: But Frank at 40, Frank Cassis is really on a
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 22: winning streak like I've never seen.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 4: He's on Fuego.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 22: Yeah, but you're telling me Frank Cassis at 40 has
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 22: won Lawyer of the Year, and you at 60-whatever, 7
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 22: or 6 or whatever, have never won Lawyer of the Year.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 30: Never.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 4: No, never. And you're one of the most well-known lawyers.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 4: Really great legal minds in our community.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 21: Jim Melfi just stuck his head in. You're not going
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 21: to join us? You're just going to stick your head
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 21: in and fly the flag to me and then leave?
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 21: That's what you're doing?
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 4: Apparently so. But, I mean, do you think that's fair?
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 22: You're one of the great legal minds, one of the
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 22: best attorneys in our community, and you've never been.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: Lawyer of the Year.
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  Speaker 18: Ever.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 21: Neither has Brian Kopp.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't matter to me about Brian Kopp. I'm
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 4: concerned about David Beatrice.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 21: It's an honor for Frank. I'm very honored.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 4: No, no.
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  Speaker 22: Deep down, I think it's really eating at you that
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 22: he got it at 40 and he never won it.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 4: No, deep down. Talk to me about it. Come on.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 21: No, it's not. Honest to God. I'm happy when people
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 21: are successful. Like, anytime a lawyer wins a big case,
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 21: I always call them and say, good job, nice job.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 21: I like to see people be successful.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 4: Okay? Mm-hmm.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 21: I mean, that shows. And he has two young boys
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 21: at home and a wife that works. I mean, his boys,
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 21: I think, are going into the third grade, and both
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 21: of them are his twin boys.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 22: What makes him such a good lawyer from your perspective?
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 21: I trained him.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 21: He came out of law school. He passed the bar.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 21: I'm not kidding you. And he hit me at a
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 21: perfect time. I think we did five jury trials together.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 21: Then he left the firm for a little bit. He
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 21: had more jury trial experience at four years of practicing
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 21: law than lawyers with 10 and 12 years of practicing law.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 21: And then he honed his skills some more and then
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 21: he came back and, you know, we just, we work
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 21: really well together. We bounce ideas off of each other and,
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 21: you know, and, We get crazy, and he's had some
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 21: great success lately.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, he's Lawyer of the Year at 40.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 22: That's really impressive.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 21: I don't think anyone's ever won at that.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's won it at 40.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 21: And I'm glad the Bar Association is recognizing good lawyers
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 21: at a young age.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 4: What about good lawyers at an old age, like a
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 4: guy like you?
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 21: Well, like me.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 4: Why don't they recognize you? I'm a little upset about
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 4: it all.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 21: Well, because I'm a lightning rod, Ron. People either love
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 21: me or they love to hate me. There's no in-between.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 4: Listen, you are a great legal mind and you are
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 4: a great lawyer.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 21: I'm a great legal mind. I think so. I think
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 21: I'm a good lawyer also. But winning lawyer of the year...
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 21: It's more important for me that Frank, someone at 40,
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 21: wins it than me at 66.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 22: Really.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 21: I'm on the downslide. Frank's on the upside. We have
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 21: a bunch of great young lawyers coming in. I think
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 21: Mark's going to win for judge.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 4: Mark would be a phenomenal family law judge.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 21: And he's training Tally. Right. Tally is... trained under him
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 21: now for over a year. So we're not going to
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 21: miss a beat there. So, you know, it's just going
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 21: to be, you know, we have a good young crop.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 21: We have a guy named Connor Hilton who is just,
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 21: he's in his, I think he's only in his second
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 21: or third year at YSU and he wants to be
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 21: a lawyer and work here. And this kid's like a Mr.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 24: Wizard.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 21: I mean, he can, I'll, I'll like, I get frustrated
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 21: at the computer sometimes. Uh, Connor, he comes in and
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 21: I go, can you just show me what you're doing?
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 21: He goes, it takes too long to explain it to you.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 21: Just let me fix it. So he like, he, he
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 21: like make me, made me addicted to him.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 21: And I can't do anything unless Connor's in there. He
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 21: comes in and he figures stuff out. He's a whiz kid.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 4: And you're not.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 21: And I'm not. And we have Daniel Leslie who, I mean,
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 21: he's just a great writer. We, Hired another law clerk.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 21: His name is Jake. And he is just phenomenal. Phenomenal.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 21: The nice thing for our firm is that the lawyers
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 21: coming up are just as talented as the lawyers that
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 21: are going to be slowing down. His name is Jake Petro.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 21: So he goes to the University of Pittsburgh. He's written
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 21: me a couple motions. They've been spot on. And so
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 21: the younger lawyers are learning how to use AI. You know,
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 21: they have AI specifically for lawyers. So we've tested out
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 21: a couple different ones of them, and we've settled on
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 21: one that we think is the best. And, you know,
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 21: it's not open source. It's closed source. And it's just–
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 21: it just makes us work more efficiently.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 22: Well, I couldn't be more proud of you, more proud
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 22: of the firm and Frank and– On one hand, I
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 22: feel really bad that you never achieved Lawyer of the Year.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, it really bothers me.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 21: You want to know what I'm talking about tomorrow on
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 21: WFMJ Today?
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure. Go ahead.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 21: Oh, really? Why do you got to have that negative attitude?
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 4: What are you going to talk about? Go ahead. From
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 4: ABC News. I'm Brian Clark.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 30: President Trump said this morning on social media that the
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 30: four Republicans who voted for a resolution that would limit
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 30: his war powers in Iran were unpatriotic. Later today, he
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 30: was asked to the Oval Office if the U.S. would
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 30: resume military operations if American troops were killed.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 4: It would be a good reason. I'll be honest with you,
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 4: if they kill U.S. troops, I think I would do
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 4: that very quickly.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 30: So far, there's still no deal to end the war
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 30: and reopen the Strait of Hormuz. The president was speaking
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 30: after he announced a $ 700 million initiative to boost the
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 30: coal industry.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 4: It was set aside for the Green News scam. But
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 4: the Green News scam is history.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 30: The plan includes construction of two new coal plants in
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 30: West Virginia and Alaska. They would be the nation's first
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 30: since 2013. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says the government's
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 30: responding to the new world screw worm detected on a
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 30: cow on a ranch in South Texas.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 12: The food supply is not compromised at all.
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 21: This is not a disease.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 4: It is not a virus.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 12: It is simply an insect that lands in a wound
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 12: and lays eggs. that like to eat the flesh around
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 12: the womb.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 30: Food industry experts are concerned this could push prices higher.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 30: The Treasury Department has imposed sanctions on a new group
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 30: of Cuban officials, including the country's president, as the administration
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 30: continues to pressure the communist regime. former national security adviser
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 30: john bolton set to plead guilty to illegally retaining national
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 30: security information abc's chief justice correspondent pierre thomas has more
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 30: the source uh..
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 32: That i spoke to said that this involves uh... bolton
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 32: allegedly storing classified information or, excuse me, national security information
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 32: in diaries, not that he took actual documents from government
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 32: offices and retained them.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 30: Colorado appeals court reversed homicide convictions against two paramedics who
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 30: injected Elijah McClain with ketamine in 2019.
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  Speaker 4: You're listening to ABC News. Again, it's Money Talks with
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 4: John Arnold.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 22: And from NewsRadio 570 WKBN, as we always like to say,
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 22: it's good to hear his voice and good to hear
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 22: what he has to say. John Arnold's back with us,
• 2:23:07
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• 2:23:09
  Speaker 22: on NewsRadio 570 WKBN on a gorgeous Thursday evening, 84,
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• 2:23:17
  Speaker 22: the hedge fund and talk a little bit about that momentarily.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 22: But I always enjoy talking to John in the beginning
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 22: about the economy and the markets and if he's bearish
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 22: or bullish, and just kind of do a general overview
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 22: for me in the beginning, if you.
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  Speaker 4: Don't mind, John.
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  Speaker 25: Absolutely.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 5: Do you mind if I hit that disclosure?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely. You have to.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 24: Yep.
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  Speaker 22: All right.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 4: Now the review.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 22: When I look at the times that are going on
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 22: right now, and I'd like to get your reaction, there's
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 22: a lot of uncertainty. If I would define the times.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 22: Uncertainty because will the war go on? Is there going
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 22: to be an agreement? Is there not going to be
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 22: an agreement? It takes two to tango. Everything's in flux
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 22: as far as that situation is concerned. What's going to
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 22: happen with inflation? What's going to happen with oil prices?
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 22: There's just an uneasiness that I sense out there. And
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 22: I always thought uncertainty is not good for anything. the
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 22: stock markets, and volatility. I'd like to get your thoughts.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 5: Well, the VIX is the volatility index. That's actually pretty
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 5: low right now from the 15s, and that actually kind
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 5: of scares me. That tells me that we might be
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 5: heading for a little bit of a shakeup in the
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 5: summer as far as a little bit of a downturn.
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 5: You know, we've had a great two, three months, and
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 5: I think June's going to probably have a decent month. Again,
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 5: that's just a guess, but it looks like we might
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 5: have a might come into a little bit of volatility
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 5: because I'm a buy low, sell high guy. And when
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 5: I see the VIX at 15 in March, it was
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 5: like a 24, 25. It tells me a lot. So
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 5: if you look at a five-year chart on the VIX
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 5: right now, you'll see if you draw a straight line
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 5: on the bottom resistance and the top resistance, you'll see
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 5: that sort of a gun 13, 14, 15 area where bottoms,
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 5: and then you'll get a bounce off with some volatility. Now,
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 5: that doesn't necessarily always mean that the market's, you know,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 5: dog crap or whatever. It's in the crapper, but it
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 5: does tell you that maybe some higher volatility, believe it
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 5: or not, is in store. You know, we talk about oil.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 5: Oil is hovering around the mid-90s. Yields are stable. And
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 5: with that said, believe it or not, the things that
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 5: have been driving the market for the past, I want
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 5: to say decade, have been oil and interest rates. Those
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 5: have been kind of calm, believe it or not, as
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 5: of late. I think, and listen, I try to get
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 5: so far away from politics on this because it's a
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 5: financial education show, but I think you would agree with this.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 5: I think as long as Donald Trump is president, I
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 5: think volatility is always going to hang around over our head.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 5: And that's just kind of the bad that comes with
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 5: the good because obviously I'm a supporter. I think his
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 5: policies outweigh sometimes the stupidity. So I just think that's
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 5: just what you get with a guy like that. And
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 5: I think... As long as he's in power and making decisions,
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 5: you're going to always be on edge on the market
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 5: and just living as an American. And that doesn't necessarily
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 5: mean what he's doing is bad. I think he's fixing
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 5: a lot of bad and putting some certain together that
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 5: used to be, you know, Band-Aid. So that's how I
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 5: feel about that. Maybe your thoughts on that.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 22: Well, we saw it with the tariffs. They're on, they're off.
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 22: The market's up, the market's down. And you're seeing the
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 22: same thing with this situation. But some of the stuff
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 22: that I read from some of the oil analysts are saying, oh, man,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 22: it's a mess and it's going to take a long
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 22: time to fix. You could see barrel of oil at $ 160, $ 180.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 22: It's not going to be $ 90. It's never going to
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 22: be the same. If there's a potential of it being
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 22: the same, it's going to take quite a while.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 4: That could lead to inflation.
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 22: I mean, it's like unprecedented, and so many people have opinions,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 22: but nobody seems to know what can realistically happen because
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 22: we've never been in this type of situation before. And
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 22: what I've learned from you when you talk about educational purposes,
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 22: and I've educated myself a lot in listening to you,
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 22: is that the market doesn't like uncertainty.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 25: It doesn't.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 5: But you have a couple of things there I wanted
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 5: to touch base on. We've actually been through this before,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 5: and that was in the Bush administration with the Iraq war.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 5: I disagree a little bit with the fact that this
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 5: is unprecedented, but maybe not you, but the analysts. And honestly,
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 5: the analysts are a bunch of bull.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 4: Don't say it. Yeah, we don't.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 5: You know, those guys tend to be way more wrong
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 5: than they're right. No one ever pins them down and
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 5: shuts them up. I would. I'd love to get in
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 5: front of the analysts and be like, hey, I noticed
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 5: that you said this, I noticed that you said this.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 5: But somehow, some way, even though you and your Ivy
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 5: League school degree are always wrong. And I'd just like
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 5: you to come out and say, why are you always
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 5: wrong and still getting paid? But no one ever calls
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 5: them out on their BS. But with that said, I
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 5: totally disagree with oil going to $ 160 and $ 180. And
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 5: I totally disagree with, oh, we don't, this will never,
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 5: you know. People will never go, it will never go
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 5: back down. But it always happens to go back down.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 5: You know, there's a guy named John Arnold who's a billionaire,
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 5: who's a hedge fund manager, spelled J-O-H-N. I think he's
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 5: like 39, 40 area. Real young guy. I think he's
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 5: like the seventh wealthiest guy in the entire world. Young guy.
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  Speaker 5: You know what he did as a hedge fund manager?
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 21: What?
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 5: He bought oil in the 30s. in the 30s, and
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 5: then he shorted it when it went up over 100.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 5: So he made money on both sides. I think he
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 5: retired at like 29 as a billionaire because of what
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 5: he did with his hedge fund. Here's my point. Those
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 5: never seem to be right, and I don't really put
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of weight into the analysts. I think they're,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 5: you know, the guys that when I was with Stiefel,
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 5: like the analysts said, buy this, buy that, their picks sucked.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 5: We in the firm are like, we would do like
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 5: the Contra, like analyst fund, like whatever they said, let's
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 5: do the opposite because that's going to hold true. So
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 5: I get, I get a passion and fired up about
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 5: what you just said there. I just think that in time.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 5: And I think that one day something's going to happen.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know when, and I'm pissed off myself, probably
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 5: frustrated like you, like for the love of God, don't
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 5: Trump either attack them and blow them out of the sky.
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 5: Like you said, you're going to do a hundred times.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 5: Or just get out of there because we need some
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 5: kind of certainty because every other day they're coming to
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 5: an agreement and every other day he's going to blow
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 5: them smithereens. He really does look stupid when he says
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 5: stuff like that. So that's where I'm at. And the
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 5: volatility helps me as a manager. You know, this is
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 5: the fourth day into the fund. You know, we had
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 5: the deposits coming in the May. And the fund is
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 5: on day three, because today's actually the end of day four.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 5: We're already up 1.1% for the month, so we're being
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 5: the market handily. Today was a big, big win for us. Yesterday,
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 5: not so much. But here's my point. I cannot wait
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 5: to get on the radio, maybe after two months and
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 5: after two NAVs get set, they're audited and say, this
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 5: is what the fund made, and just knock people's socks off.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 5: Just literally just knock it out of the water. I'm
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 5: telling you, I was born to do this. I wish
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 5: I'd have done this a long time ago. It's my
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 5: cup of tea. I love everything about it.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 24: All right.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 22: And for those of you that say, oh, wait a minute,
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 22: John Arnold, what do you mean this is what you do,
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 22: this is what you're born to do? This is something
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 22: that you've wanted to do a long time. And just
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 22: so people understand, you started your own hedge fund. Your
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 22: own hedge fund, which is, here it is, 100 people can...
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 22: the participants in it, or co, I forget what the
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 22: proper term is.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 5: Limited partners.
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 3: Limited partners.
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 22: A hundred of them can be in that. There can't
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 22: be more than a hundred of them. There's some criteria
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 22: to get into it. And then you, basically, you manage
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 22: that money by buying and selling on an hourly or
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 22: daily basis is what you do in this hedge fund.
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 22: I mean, it takes a lot of time, a lot
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 22: of attention, and a lot of stress. And yet, it's
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 22: what you've always wanted to do.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 25: It is.
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  Speaker 5: And the reason why I continue to say this, because
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 5: out of respect.
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 25: For the guys in the investment fields, including the.
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 5: Guys that bought my firm, they're kind of handcuffed for
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 5: what they can do. You got, I'm saying, the former
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 5: firm I had had 1,600 clients, I think that Adam
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 5: and Joe together probably are managing $ 1, 800 to $ 2, 000. So
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 5: you have to believe that one-third of them are moderate,
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 5: one-third of them are balanced, one-third of them are a risk.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 5: But even when you say aggressive risk, there's no way
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 5: that a lot of those people can handle what a
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 5: hedge fund risk is. A hedge fund risk is all-outs, no-holds-barred, kick-ass, take-no-names,
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 5: and give us a return no matter what. And the
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 5: investment industry as a whole can't do that. You're going
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 5: to get your eyeballs sued out. You're going to get fined.
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 4: It would make the average person very nervous.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 22: As you talk about it, it takes a certain type
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 22: of investor that you're talking about. The person that's close
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 22: to retirement or the person that might be in retirement is,
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 22: depending on their financial situation, is saying, oh boy, I
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 22: can't afford to lose money, I'm retired, or I can't
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 22: afford to take that kind of risk. Right?
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's different..
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And that's why the guard... I apologize to interrupt you,
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 5: but that's why the SEC has guardrails. Like, I'm a
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 5: 3C1 fund, which means I'm allowed 99 accredited investors. And
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 5: what accredited means is these people have to be somewhat educated.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 5: They have to have a minimum of $ 200, 000 in your
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 5: income or $ 300, 000 with your spouse. or have a million
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 5: dollars in assets. You know, in our area, that's not
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 5: a lot of people. And to be honest with you,
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 5: shame on the investment guy, excuse me, the hedge fund manager, me.
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 5: I'm what's called a general partner of the fund. If
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 5: I take a client that doesn't have an enormous amount
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 5: of wealth that's over 60, they can put $ 100, 000 or
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 5: $ 200, 000 without it affecting them no more, even if that
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 5: $ 200, 000 went to zero. My thing is it's not going
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 5: to affect the outcome of your life, and that's the
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 5: litmus test for me. If there's any danger of this
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 5: affecting their outcome or their retirement, I don't care how
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 5: much money they got, no thank you. Because if they're
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 5: making a couple hundred grand in retirement off dividends and
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 5: Social Security and interest and capital gains, and they're spending
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 5: every bit of that $ 200, 000 a year, you know, on living,
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 5: then it's a wash. It's no good. So we can't
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 5: endanger it. So everything is perspective. You know, we've got
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 5: some nice clients off this show here from it. I
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 5: got some clients from just people that have been wanting
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 5: to get into a hedge fund but didn't do. So
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 5: I'm after like the blue collar or the normal millionaire,
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 5: all right? I'm after the normal guy that has a
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 5: couple bucks, is making a couple hundred thousand, etc., I
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 5: don't have the natural market to go after an institution
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 5: that's going to give me $ 20, $ 40, $ 50 million as
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 5: a deposit, like a 3B1 fund, or even a wealthier
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 5: hedge fund. That's just not who I am. I don't
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 5: have that natural market. So I think I really appeal
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 5: to our area, like Pittsburgh and Cleveland, of the people
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 5: that have what we consider upper wealth.
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 22: And I think there are plenty of those people in
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 22: this community. I think there are a lot of people.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 5: And you wouldn't believe how many you wouldn't believe. Right.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 22: I mean, when I hear when I always hear the
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 22: Cleveland and Pittsburgh or some of these other communities, folks,
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 22: I say I sit back with pride and say, believe
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 22: it's there are plenty of very wealthy people here. that
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 22: live in this community that have been very successful people
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 22: that could easily invest in this hedge funds. I mean, it,
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 22: it takes us, it takes a certain economic thing. Like you,
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 22: like you're saying in this hedge fund by putting in $ 200, 000, uh,
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 22: it's actively managed and you can make a bunch of money,
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 22: but if you have a down market, you could lose
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 22: half the money or whatever.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 4: So volatility is part of the risk involved, correct?
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 5: Excuse me. Well, the reason why it's called a hedge
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 5: is because it's my responsibility to make the return no
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 5: matter what the market does. And that's what makes them
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 5: so aggressive because you better hope that the guy doing
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 5: that knows what he's doing. And I think I know
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 5: what I'm doing. I've been doing it, I think, going
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 5: on 25 years and a lot of crazy... I mean,
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 5: I got way above average success in the investment advisor world. So,
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 5: you know, with the handcuffs off, I think that I
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 5: can do even better. So, again, you pointed out something.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 5: It's not for everybody. There is a certain clientele out
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 5: there that it's, you know, very high net worth wealth.
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 5: In this area, they just are very particular where they
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 5: put their eggs.
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 30: And..
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 5: I knew that because I used to be on an
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 5: advisory council board for Akron Children's Hospital. And the people
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 5: we would call on and talk and try to invest
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 5: as an endowment into Akron Children's, and they were all
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 5: around here. You wouldn't believe some of them. You wouldn't
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 5: believe the wealth that's around here that nobody knows. Right.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 5: So I'll leave it at that.
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 22: Right. And, I mean, that's a lot to be said
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 22: for our town and our community. We take a back
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 22: seat to absolutely no one is what I'm saying.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 25: Absolutely.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 5: And I agree with that 100 All.
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 22: Right, so when we talk about this, once you hit
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 22: 100 people in the hedge funds, then that's the end
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 22: of it. Are there still some openings available I mean,
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 22: you started it in just a short period of time.
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 22: I mean, you got in in May. I think May
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 22: 15th was the official opening date, if you will, for
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 22: people to put money in. And the hedge fund officially
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 22: started on June 1st. Now, how does it go about
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 22: for additional investors to be a part of that 100 group?
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 22: Can they get in now in June or explain the
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 22: process now?
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 4: We're beyond that.
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 22: The May 15th to June 1st gathering funds window, can
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 22: you still get in at this time?
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get– so they get your money in
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 5: for the June– the July deposit. You have to get
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 5: your money in before June's over. So we had 15
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 5: days in May, and we were up against it. Like
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 5: I said, and this sounds like sales talk. It's not.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 5: I just call it like I see it. Um, you know,
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 5: we had 14 days to get the deposits in to,
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 5: for the LPs. And this, this was my first time
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 5: doing it. And I'm like, I was going day to day,
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 5: sometimes still in without sleep. I, I remember a couple
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 5: of times I woke up after like getting like two
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 5: to three hours of sleep.
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 25: And I could, I was like, man, why am I,
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 25: I look so thin. Why am I so hungry? And
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 25: I forgot to eat.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 5: I forgot to eat. I had been working so much
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 5: and doing so many.
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 25: Things to get these deposits in that I just forgot
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 25: to eat.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 5: And Jen was kind of mad. My wife, she didn't
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 5: see me for four straight days, but we live in
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 5: the same house. But here's what I did is I
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 5: put that on hold a little bit for like a
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 5: week just to get caught up, to get the people
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 5: that were in the pipeline done. So we're going to
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 5: start taking new LP deposits probably Monday. Now that I
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 5: have a little bit of time to do it, because
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 5: right now my focus from 9 to 5 is managing
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 5: the fund, which only leaves me four or five hours
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 5: to get the administrative part done. And I don't think we're,
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't think we're at the point to
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 5: where we should get an operations team, but we have
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 5: a couple, you know, I got Gabe helping, et cetera,
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 5: but he's only one man. So, you know, we're trying
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 5: to get there. We're trying to get there to where
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 5: I can take on more LPs, but... That will happen
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 5: around probably Monday or Tuesday. And, yeah, we have spots open.
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 5: And in order to get into July, you have to
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 5: get into June. So hopefully I explained that right.
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 22: So, in other words, you'd put your money in in June.
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 22: It would sit idle until July 1st when you could–
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 22: the beginning of the month is when your money goes
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 22: active into the hedge.
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 4: Fund, correct?
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right. That's how all hedge funds work. Everything's
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 5: measured on 30 days. So what's going to happen on
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 5: the 30 day at the end of four 30, because
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 5: I'm an equity strategy, um, they're going to measure my nav.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 5: They're going to say your nav, let's say I'm just making.
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 25: Up a number.
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 5: Let's say the nav is 10 June 1st and the
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 5: nav is 12 June, uh, June 30th.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 5: So there's a 20, I'm not saying there is, I'm just,
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 5: I'm just literally using hypothetical number. There's a 20% gain there.
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 5: So then, so, What's going to happen is the administrator
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 5: of the fund is going to say, all right, here's
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 5: what you made. Here's the cost of doing it. And
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 5: the investors have a NAV of, say, 11.8. So they
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 5: made 18% on their money in a month, which is
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 5: what we're hoping to do, right? Is that going to happen?
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 5: Probably not. But that's the goal. So that's how it's measured.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 5: And you get that NAV around the fifth or sixth
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 5: of the following month. Because the third-party administrator has got
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 5: to verify everything to make sure, auditing-wise, it's exactly what
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 5: it is. If the SEC comes knocking on your door
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 5: and you report the wrong NAV to an LP, you're
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 5: in big trouble. So we have to have it perfect.
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 5: So that's the situation.
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 4: All right, now I want you to talk. We've talked
• 2:41:28
  Speaker 4: on the program.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 22: I'm sure many of you have heard it, but those
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 22: of you who didn't, I want to talk to you
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 22: about your colleagues, Gabe and Steve and some of the
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 22: guys that we had on the program. Talk a little
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 22: bit to our listeners about those individuals, why you selected them,
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 22: a little bit about their background, and a little bit
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 22: about just the synergy of these guys.
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 5: Well, One of the things I look for is character
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 5: traits when I partner with anybody, and I want to
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 5: know how they grew up. I want to know what
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 5: they did in rough times. I want to see if
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 5: they buckled. I want to hear their story, you know,
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 5: share some time with their families. I want to see
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 5: what kind of men they are first, and I did that.
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 5: So in my research, I found that Gabe, Edward, and
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 5: Steve owned a small lawn mowing service right from 12
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 5: years old, 13, where they were going literally door to door,
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 5: And mowing lawns. And they ended up having, like, honestly,
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 5: 300 or 400 lawns. And this was at a time
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 5: when Palm Beach County was not that big. And for,
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 5: you know, three young men, 12, 13, 14 years old,
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 5: to have that kind of success was amazing to me.
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 5: And then that carried, actually, until they were 24, believe
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 5: it or not. And then they had did it so long. And,
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 5: you know, firsthand, it was not an easy job. They
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 5: did it so long that they just burned out and died.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 5: They basically said, we don't want to smell another blade
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 5: of grass or oil. See, me, I personally love that.
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 5: I love getting on my mower and smelling that gas
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 5: and that grass and the oil, whatever. But, you know,
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 5: if you do it for a living, they can't stand it.
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 5: But here's the punchline. They ended up going to college.
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 4: Gabe ended up.
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 5: Opening up a medical clinic, extremely successful. Edward ended up
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 5: being a Microsoft developer at like an executive level. And
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 5: Steve created the code for Travelocity, if you can believe that,
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 5: and sold us code rights to Travelocity for millions of dollars.
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 5: And these guys all did that in their mid-20s, where
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 5: I was just starting my business in my mid-20s. And
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 5: I was like, man, one, they're unbelievably intelligent. Two, hardworking.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 5: All come from really hardcore blue-collar families. Not afraid of
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 5: hard work. And then Edward and I, we spent a
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 5: lot of time together as families, because he lives right
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 5: next to me in Jupiter. And so I got to
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 5: know him, and knowing him, and I'm a firm believer
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 5: you're the company you keep. He told me about his
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 5: best friends and how they grew up, and I got
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 5: to talk with them and interview them. And I was like,
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 5: you know what? I had a lot of people over
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 5: the past year and a half say, you know, John,
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 5: we want you to open up another investment firm. And
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 5: I said, you know, I'm a man of my word,
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 5: plus I have a legal document that says I can't.
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 5: You know, I can't. I sold the firm to Rockport World,
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 5: and I have a label document that says I can't
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 5: for five years, and I'm going to adhere to that.
• 2:44:16
  Speaker 5: And so I was thinking for the past year, what
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 5: could I do? And I said, you know what? I
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 5: can open up a hedge fund because it doesn't compete
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 5: with these guys, and I can do what I want,
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 5: which is manage money the way I want to, and
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 5: I can keep it small at 99 people. Oh, by
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 5: the way, I have these three guys that already have
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 5: their own hedge fund that I believe in, to help
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 5: me manage it operationally and from a true money management standpoint.
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, the guy managing his own
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 5: fund is number four in the country right now, and
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 5: last year finished number six. So with my own returns
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 5: and his, I was thinking, we're going to kick so
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 5: much ass. It's going to be incredible. And to be
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 5: honest with you, so far so good. It's exactly what
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 5: I thought. So that's how I got there. That's the truth.
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you're looking for more of an
• 2:45:05
  Speaker 5: attractive story, but that is exactly how it happened. And
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 5: every day I talk with these guys, I get more attracted,
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 5: and I feel like I made the right decision. And
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 5: the more I do the hedge fund, the more I
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 5: feel like this is where I belonged, probably. for seven
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 5: or eight years.
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 4: All right, stand by, stand by.
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 22: We're talking with John Arnold on News Radio 570 WKBN
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 22: about his hedge funds.
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 4: And we'll come back with more. John's here until seven tonight.
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 21: Forest Service and the Ad Council.
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 22: From NewsRadio 570, WKBN, Money Talks, the John Arnold Program,
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 22: NewsRadio 570, WKBN. John with us till 7 tonight. If
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 22: you'd like to talk with John, feel free to give
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 22: me a call. And our phone number is 330-729-9977. John
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 22: Arnold with us till 7. You got a comment, question,
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 22: or something you'd like to talk with John about?
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 16: 330-729-9977.
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 12: 330-729-9977.
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 4: The John Arnold Show.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 22: Hedge Fund is up and now running, something you've always
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 22: wanted to do. 100 investors is where it caps out.
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 22: Then on the radio program, you will report after everything
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 22: is calculated and certified, if you will, how you did
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 22: each month to month for your investors, correct?
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 22: All right. So, I mean, John puts it right out
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 22: front to say, okay, here's what we did, and so
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 22: here's the percentages we did.
• 2:46:33
  Speaker 4: Whether it's win or lose, it doesn't matter.
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 22: The reports will happen right here, and you can kind
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 22: of just, I guess you would say, observe it.
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 4: As we go along. Let's put it that way.
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 4: Well, John Arnold, you're on the air.
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 22: Hello.
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 18: Hello.
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 4: The guy makes no sense to me, John.
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 25: That guy's still around. He deserves some kind of stupidity award.
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is a stupidity award.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 22: But, I mean, the reality is I'm interested in financial
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 22: people that have financial questions or have interest in the
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 22: hedge fund. I know we've got a lot of smart
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 22: financial people out there that are familiar, obviously, with you
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 22: or with hedge funders. investing that might have their interest piqued,
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 22: I should say, a little bit about all of what
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 22: is going on with this industry. hedge funds that you're starting.
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 22: The interesting thing, folks, is that when you invest, it's
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 22: almost like the ingredients of Kentucky Fried Chicken. You don't
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 22: get the recipe as an investor. You're shown what the
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 22: results are and how much you made or where the
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 22: fund is at. But we don't disclose what the specifics
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 22: are of it because then that, as other hedge funds
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 22: don't do that, because then that gets leaked and the
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 22: magic of insight is then not, how do I say, exclusive.
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 4: How's that sound?
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 5: No, you're exactly right. Listen, if you had us... Ron,
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 5: if you and your son built a secret mower and
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 5: you somehow were able to mow lawns in one fourth
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 5: of time and charge more money, you probably wouldn't let
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 5: your competitors know how to build a secret mower.
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 5: So that's the same thing. It's the same reason why
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 5: Koch and Heinz still have a dead..
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 25: You know, no matter what, you're not going to get
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 25: the recipe.
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 5: And so that, you know, that was the biggest thing
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 5: for me included, for me and my initial LPs to, like, digest. Like,
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 5: wait a minute. You just have to count on, like,
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 5: at the end of the month, like, we made a
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 5: bunch of money and John just did it by a
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 5: magic act. Now, the truth is I didn't. I did
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 5: what I've been doing for a long time at a
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 5: very high level. But it doesn't guarantee he's going to
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 5: get a positive result. Right now we are. But, yeah,
• 2:49:03
  Speaker 5: so a limited partner at the end of the month
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 5: gets a printout, is like a board of directors saying,
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 5: here's how much we lost, here's how much we gained.
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 5: And this is the return that we got. And the
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 5: cool thing is it's audited by a third party. And
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 5: that's the key to that system because if it wasn't
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 5: audited by a third party, which is Ripple, and by
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 5: the way, there's a bunch of them, you know, there's
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 5: a bunch of, hedge fund manager, third-party administrators. This one
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 5: just happened to fit what we do and how we
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 5: do it for an aggressive cost. But that's how the
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 5: investors know that what they're getting is real. If I
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 5: just said on the radio or just gave a statement
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 5: at the end of the month, hey, we made this
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 5: much money, they're counting on me telling the truth. And remember, Ron,
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 5: I only achieve if there's no other way out.
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 4: I'm kidding.
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding.
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 24: So..
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 5: That's something we used to say in poker at the
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 5: poker table. So my point is it's completely immune to
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 5: John Arnold lying or saying I did this or not,
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 5: without proof. It's completely audited. Whether I like it or not,
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 5: the results are going to be to the LPs. I
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 5: hope they're great. There will be probably months where they're not. But,
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm really proud of it because you know why?
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 5: You can say whatever you want, lie, rumor, whatever about
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 5: me or my result.
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 25: Math doesn't lie.
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 5: Math doesn't lie. You can say whatever you want. The
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 5: math is the math. And that's why I love this business.
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 22: Talk to me about how would you describe the qualities
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 22: you're looking for of a typical– I just can't get
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 22: the word right. Client that would be with you investment-wise
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 22: in this hedge fund. Give me how you would, I
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 22: want to say, describe or define them and what you'd
• 2:50:56
  Speaker 22: be looking for as far as their makeup.
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to make sure they have enough
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 5: wealth on the side to, no matter what this fund does,
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 5: it's going to not hurt them. That's number one. Two,
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 5: I want to know about their experience. You know, have
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 5: they been investing for a long period of their life?
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 5: Have they had any investment experience at all? Because if
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 5: they don't and all hell breaks loose and they think that,
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 5: you know, minus 8% is a bad year or even month,
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 5: then they're at the wrong ballgame. They need to go
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 5: get a CD or whatever. So there's an experience as
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 5: an educational checkmark I want to hit. I want to
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 5: see how their personality is, if their personality is needy
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 5: and drive me crazy and, you know, they want to
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 5: know about this and that every day. Like, hey, listen,
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 5: I'm managing money. This isn't a buying-sell, you know, mutual
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 5: funds deal where we're, you know, we're sending you Christmas
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 5: cards and asking you how church is. We're literally managing
• 2:51:57
  Speaker 5: money on an hourly to sometimes minute-per-minute basis. Like today,
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 5: I made $ 56, 000 in eight minutes today, in eight minutes.
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 5: Simply because I caught five stocks at the exact right
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 5: moment by really good candlestick charting, which is technical analysis,
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 5: and some luck. If I'm busy talking a.
• 2:52:20
  Speaker 25: Client off a ledge, an LP or a client, I
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 25: can't do that.
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 5: So we're not interested in that nonsense. Like, take that
• 2:52:27
  Speaker 5: to somewhere else. We're not doing that.
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 25: So there's that.
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 5: And..
• 2:52:34
  Speaker 25: I was initially basing this.
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 5: On age and experience, but honestly, we've had some senior
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 5: citizens that have four or five million bucks that said, hey,
• 2:52:43
  Speaker 5: I'll never use this money. And, you know, why don't
• 2:52:45
  Speaker 5: we put a couple hundred thousand in this and I'll
• 2:52:47
  Speaker 5: just hand it off to the wife and kids. Hopefully
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 5: you do good by it. Now, there's a perfect client,
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 5: but it's probably built more for the, you know, a physician,
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 5: an executive or executives in the household. Or, you know,
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 5: I picked up some really successful blue-collar guys that had
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 5: their own company.
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 22: So whether that's a business owner, whether that's someone, of course,
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 22: it could be any number of people. It just has
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 22: to say somebody that says, hey, here's $ 200, 000 and isn't
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 22: going to be up at night working.
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 4: Tossing and turning, if you will.
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 5: It's not getting meaningless, so their financial profile will not
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 5: have an effect.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 22: What I find interesting, John, is when you describe something
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 22: like that is you're finding more and more that age
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 22: isn't a factor.
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 4: In a lot of cases.
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 22: You might think, oh, you're close to retirement or you're retired,
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 22: but this is a different breed of cat, if you will.
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 22: I mean, that's what I find interesting in describing these
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 22: people that say, okay, I'm willing to, well, they're in
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 22: a position where they can do something like this.
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you hit it right dead center in the middle
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 5: of the ball. I'm surprised. When I think about senior
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 5: citizens and my grandfather and my grandmother who were..
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 4: Just regular people.
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they were regular people. They were just amazing people.
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 5: But could they understand even 1% what a hedge fund
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 5: is and how it works?
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 14: No.
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 5: They were about Social Security or pension, and maybe they
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 5: saved an IRA in the old days with some bank.
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 5: But now the new senior citizen is very astute, very well-read,
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 5: has way more money than they'll ever spend, and they
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 5: understand what I'm talking about. And it's surprising to me
• 2:54:43
  Speaker 5: because I have this– I've been brainwashed because how I
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 5: grew up, my grandparents were your typical steel mill grandparents.
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 2:54:51
  Speaker 5: It's a new generation of seniors.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 22: When you talk about how you grew up and everything,
• 2:54:57
  Speaker 22: just for a second, what I find interesting is when
• 2:54:59
  Speaker 22: you were talking about your associates, Steve and the other
• 2:55:05
  Speaker 22: associates that are in this fund and their background, It
• 2:55:10
  Speaker 22: reminds me very much of your background, just a normal family,
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 22: a normal background, from you working at a restaurant to
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 22: you working at a car dealership to you going and
• 2:55:22
  Speaker 22: getting involved with learning the financial world and MBAs and
• 2:55:27
  Speaker 22: what have you. You evolved from all the stuff that
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 22: you did as a young man in a work ethic.
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 22: You evolved into the world of finances. Then you evolved
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 22: once you got into the world of finances to say
• 2:55:40
  Speaker 22: the typical stuff, annuities and that stuff you didn't like.
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 22: And then somehow you honed yourself to be the technical
• 2:55:51
  Speaker 22: analysis and to be able to read charts and to
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 22: do some investing that we've seen over the years. And
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 22: now you've you've said, okay, this is what I've always
• 2:56:01
  Speaker 22: wanted to do, and this is the criteria to get in.
• 2:56:05
  Speaker 22: I know sometimes it sounds like the rich get richer,
• 2:56:09
  Speaker 22: if you will, but that's the criteria that you're not setting.
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 22: That's the criteria that legally is set to get into
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 22: the hedge fund, correct?
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the SEC sets the rules on the fund, which
• 2:56:20
  Speaker 5: you're allowed to do and which you're not, period, end
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 5: of story. You know, someone could put a gun to
• 2:56:24
  Speaker 5: my head and say, hey, You know, I want to
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 5: put money in your hedge fund, but if they're only worth, say,
• 2:56:29
  Speaker 5: $ 400, 000 and make $ 100, 000 a year, that ain't going to happen.
• 2:56:32
  Speaker 5: So that's the way it is. But first of all,
• 2:56:36
  Speaker 5: I think what you gave me there was a huge compliment.
• 2:56:38
  Speaker 5: You're right. I'm a real guy, regular guy who just
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 5: works his tail off. And the greatest thing about me
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 5: and the other, well, not me, but the guys you described,
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 5: is I love a person that had.
• 2:56:50
  Speaker 25: To earn it.
• 2:56:52
  Speaker 5: That didn't have a silver spoon, that had to grind
• 2:56:56
  Speaker 5: it out to learn, just like I did, because you
• 2:56:58
  Speaker 5: know what? No one's coming to save the day. When
• 2:57:01
  Speaker 5: you're middle class or lower middle class, and you want
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 5: something better for the new generation, your family, whatever, you
• 2:57:08
  Speaker 5: either hit the lottery... or you grind it out. That's
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 5: your options. And I don't give a raspitude. What anybody says,
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 5: there's no hidden secret. That's what it takes, hard work, risk.
• 2:57:20
  Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you right now, you make mistakes
• 2:57:22
  Speaker 5: and you learn along the way. That's the best education
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 5: you can have. And when I talk about my partners,
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 5: that's exactly who they are. And the companies they work for,
• 2:57:34
  Speaker 5: you know, Edward has gone crazy on the ladder of Microsoft.
• 2:57:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think they're legitimately scared to lose him.
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 5: And I think they'll offer whatever money they can to
• 2:57:46
  Speaker 5: keep him from going full hedge fund. But there's going
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 5: to be a day where this hedge fund is gone.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 5: So successful, it would be stupid for him to continue
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 5: to work there. But you can't work at Microsoft as
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 5: a head developer without being unbelievably successful, well-educated, but more importantly,
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 5: a grinder. He works sometimes, I'm going to say 12
• 2:58:03
  Speaker 5: to 16 hours a day, to a point where I
• 2:58:07
  Speaker 5: get aggravated because I want to get a hold of
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 5: him sometimes. It's just we're grinders, okay?
• 2:58:12
  Speaker 4: We're grinders.
• 2:58:13
  Speaker 5: There's nothing special to us other than we've got, I think,
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 5: some better-than-average intelligence and work ethic that's undeniable. And that
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 5: means something to me. You know, I love kicking the
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 5: crap out of the guys that I compete with sometimes,
• 2:58:28
  Speaker 5: you know, the country club guys. You know, they're in
• 2:58:31
  Speaker 5: a penis-measuring contest and acting like fools or whatever because
• 2:58:35
  Speaker 5: they're Silver Spring kids. I love killing them.
• 2:58:37
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 2:58:38
  Speaker 5: It's what gets me up in the morning. It literally does,
• 2:58:41
  Speaker 5: because you can't beat math. You can say whatever you
• 2:58:44
  Speaker 5: want about me. My math is going to whip your ass.
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 5: That's the end, and I love that.
• 2:58:49
  Speaker 22: I mean, that's what it's all about. But this is,
• 2:58:56
  Speaker 22: when I talk about your hedge fund, it is a
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 22: team effort. I use you, John Arnold, but you've compiled
• 2:59:03
  Speaker 22: a team is what I want people to know, right?
• 2:59:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, we talk about Steve and these guys. This
• 2:59:07
  Speaker 4: is a team.
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 5: It is a team. Um, you know, Gabe operationally, Edward technology, Steve,
• 2:59:16
  Speaker 5: I think is better than me on the investments. And
• 2:59:18
  Speaker 5: you know, my ego, man, that's hard for me to say.
• 2:59:20
  Speaker 5: I think I'll, I'll go up against anybody in the country,
• 2:59:24
  Speaker 5: but I see, I think Steven, I went in seven
• 2:59:26
  Speaker 5: out of 10 battles. I do.
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 25: He's that good.
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 5: So if you got me and Steve managing the money and,
• 2:59:31
  Speaker 5: and the other guys piggybacking out with operations, I think, uh,
• 2:59:35
  Speaker 5: I think we're in good shape.
• 2:59:37
  Speaker 4: All right, so I want to pause at this point.
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 22: I'm talking with John Arnold, who started his hedge fund
• 2:59:42
  Speaker 22: on June 1st. All right, and on June 1st, 100
• 2:59:47
  Speaker 22: people is where it stops once you hit 100 that
• 2:59:52
  Speaker 22: you can't get in. And that's just where the plane
• 2:59:56
  Speaker 22: is full, I like to say. Please give the criteria,
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 22: if you will, of the people of the three points
• 3:00:03
  Speaker 22: that you have to have to get in And then
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 22: the criteria, so everyone understands, I think the guy said
• 3:00:09
  Speaker 22: last time there's three or four criteria to get into
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 22: the fund. And then how to touch base with you,
• 3:00:16
  Speaker 22: both through the Internet and phone-wise, for folks that would say, hey,
• 3:00:20
  Speaker 22: John Arnold, I think I qualify for this, and I
• 3:00:23
  Speaker 22: might be interested in getting in.
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 4: Show me your stuff.
• 3:00:29
  Speaker 5: Okay. Yeah, we have one of three criteria you have
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 5: to meet. And the first one is you have to
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 5: make at least $ 200, 000 a year, or if you and
• 3:00:39
  Speaker 5: your spouse together make $ 300, 000, that qualifies. So let's say
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 5: you make $ 120, 000 and your spouse makes $ 180, 000, you qualify.
• 3:00:47
  Speaker 5: Or if you don't do that, but you've saved your
• 3:00:49
  Speaker 5: money and you've done well for yourself, and you have
• 3:00:52
  Speaker 5: a million dollars outside of your residence's net worth, now
• 3:00:56
  Speaker 5: you're talking turkey. So you've got that.
• 3:01:00
  Speaker 22: And then..
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 5: What else is the one? There's another one. Oh, yeah.
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 5: So you can do a trust if you want. The
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 5: trust can equal $ 5 million. That means if your family
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 5: has a trust, and when I say family, it's aunts,
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 5: it's uncles, it's all kinds of stuff. That's going to
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 5: equal $ 5 million. So there could be 10 of you,
• 3:01:29
  Speaker 5: and that equals $ 5 million. Now you're in business. So
• 3:01:35
  Speaker 5: hopefully I broke that down for you. So to make
• 3:01:37
  Speaker 5: it simple, $ 200, 000 income or $ 1 million in assets.
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 22: All right, that's the criteria to get in to the fund. Now,
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 22: what's the phone number and what's the internet site or
• 3:01:53
  Speaker 22: the internet, not internet site, Gmail address or whatever, email
• 3:01:57
  Speaker 22: address to get in?
• 3:01:58
  Speaker 5: You know how it plays, right?
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 4: I know. All right, phone number.
• 3:02:01
  Speaker 22: You know, to a certain extent, I'm enjoying your excitement
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 22: about it all. Can I just tell you that? I'm
• 3:02:10
  Speaker 22: enjoying your excitement. I don't know what I can say
• 3:02:15
  Speaker 22: or what I can't say sometimes, but you take a
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 22: look at... It's just a different ballpark to be in.
• 3:02:25
  Speaker 22: It's a ballpark where you've wanted to get all your
• 3:02:30
  Speaker 22: life and... It's a good place for you to be
• 3:02:34
  Speaker 22: where you're feeling pretty confident that you can have an
• 3:02:41
  Speaker 22: enjoyable time managing this on a daily and hourly basis.
• 3:02:46
  Speaker 22: And I sense that enthusiasm. I'm trying to explain myself
• 3:02:52
  Speaker 22: to you in a sense.
• 3:02:53
  Speaker 4: I look at..
• 3:02:56
  Speaker 22: You're typical financial guys, and that's an awesome job. I'm
• 3:03:02
  Speaker 22: very impressed with the folks I just tell you at
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 22: Rockport and Joe Kovach. I'm very impressed with them and
• 3:03:08
  Speaker 22: what they know and how they do things. But a
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 22: hedge fund's a whole different animal. It's just a different
• 3:03:16
  Speaker 22: arena to be in.
• 3:03:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 3:03:22
  Speaker 22: And bigger risk, bigger reward, I guess, is what I
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 22: would like to say. And I sense your excitement about
• 3:03:27
  Speaker 22: all of that.
• 3:03:29
  Speaker 24: Yes.
• 3:03:30
  Speaker 5: You know, another thing, you know, there's a third thing
• 3:03:32
  Speaker 5: I didn't mention. It's a minimum of $ 100, 000. You don't
• 3:03:35
  Speaker 5: got to put $ 200, 000 in. You just got to be
• 3:03:37
  Speaker 5: able to make $ 200, 000. So if you have an income
• 3:03:39
  Speaker 5: of $ 200, 000, you can have a minimum investment of $ 100, 000.
• 3:03:41
  Speaker 5: So don't let the $ 200, 000 thing scare you. Get into
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 5: the fund with $ 100, 000. you're exactly right. And you said
• 3:03:52
  Speaker 5: something that, you know, I try not to bring up
• 3:03:54
  Speaker 5: her name for compliance-wise, but you've got to give Rockport
• 3:03:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of credit. They gave me this opportunity to
• 3:03:59
  Speaker 5: allow me to do this. Because if you know anything
• 3:04:02
  Speaker 5: about John Arnold, I love my clients.
• 3:04:04
  Speaker 22: Oh, you love them to death. And I've got to
• 3:04:08
  Speaker 22: tell you this. I can't tell you how impressed I
• 3:04:10
  Speaker 22: am with Joe Kovach from Rockport. And I interview him
• 3:04:13
  Speaker 22: on Mondays, as you well know, and very impressed with
• 3:04:17
  Speaker 22: his knowledge.
• 3:04:18
  Speaker 4: Very impressed.
• 3:04:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he and I, from an investment standpoint, definitely have
• 3:04:22
  Speaker 5: a love affair with each other. I'm really impressed by
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 5: him as well. He's not your average BS, send your
• 3:04:28
  Speaker 5: Christmas card, put you in a pie model. He knows
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 5: his stuff.
• 3:04:33
  Speaker 4: I think he does great analysis. He would tell you
• 3:04:35
  Speaker 4: that about me.
• 3:04:35
  Speaker 22: Right, a great analysis, as you do when we start
• 3:04:37
  Speaker 22: the program with it. But that's a different arena than
• 3:04:42
  Speaker 22: the arena that you're in. You follow what I'm saying?
• 3:04:44
  Speaker 24: Absolutely.
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. It's not even the same galaxy.
• 3:04:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 24: I mean, go ahead.
• 3:04:49
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 22: No, I mean, you kind of conquered that. And these
• 3:04:54
  Speaker 22: guys are doing a terrific job with that arena.
• 3:04:58
  Speaker 4: Now, this is a whole different thing.
• 3:05:00
  Speaker 22: But do you understand me when I say I sense
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 22: your excitement as I'm listening to you talk? Uh, I, I,
• 3:05:06
  Speaker 22: I sense it and folks, sometimes I sit back and
• 3:05:08
  Speaker 22: I say to myself, this is a lot of pressure
• 3:05:11
  Speaker 22: because this is something that you have to watch on
• 3:05:14
  Speaker 22: a day-to-day hour to hour basis. And you thrive on that.
• 3:05:18
  Speaker 22: It would drive the average person. I think crazy, but
• 3:05:21
  Speaker 22: you thrive on, on, on this.
• 3:05:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I, I, I die on the other vine. So,
• 3:05:27
  Speaker 5: you know, most people want to relax and sit by
• 3:05:29
  Speaker 5: the pool. You know, I have two homes with two
• 3:05:31
  Speaker 5: Olympic size pools. That's the truth. Um, You know, I
• 3:05:34
  Speaker 5: don't think I've been in them in the past year.
• 3:05:38
  Speaker 5: The kids love it and all that, and Jennifer loves
• 3:05:40
  Speaker 5: it and all that. That's for them. I'm not a golfer.
• 3:05:43
  Speaker 5: The only thing I really enjoy is a good MMA
• 3:05:47
  Speaker 5: match or a jiu-jitsu role. Hopefully I win, but even
• 3:05:51
  Speaker 5: if I don't, the excitement of potentially getting somewhere.
• 3:05:55
  Speaker 4: Is it that, or is it the competition in that?
• 3:05:58
  Speaker 5: It's the competition. You know, it's that.
• 3:06:00
  Speaker 24: Yeah.
• 3:06:01
  Speaker 5: The hedge fund thing got me back alive. Like, this is,
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 5: I was born to do this. Like, this is me.
• 3:06:07
  Speaker 5: And it's manageable because now I don't have to deal
• 3:06:10
  Speaker 5: with 100 people versus 2,000 people. I don't have to
• 3:06:12
  Speaker 5: be the CFO and the CPA and everything else. I
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 5: don't have to hire and manage and fire, you know,
• 3:06:19
  Speaker 5: employees and all the things that came with running a
• 3:06:21
  Speaker 5: big RA by myself. So this is me and the
• 3:06:25
  Speaker 5: LPs in the marketplace. And it's on me. If it's
• 3:06:29
  Speaker 5: meant to be, it's on me.
• 3:06:30
  Speaker 25: And if I lose, there's no excuses.
• 3:06:32
  Speaker 5: It's on me.
• 3:06:33
  Speaker 22: It's a different investment strategy and risk strategy, risk and
• 3:06:39
  Speaker 22: reward strategy for the clients.
• 3:06:44
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 3:06:45
  Speaker 22: I mean, I think it's important for everybody to understand that.
• 3:06:50
  Speaker 4: But you can get in.
• 3:06:51
  Speaker 22: I'm glad you corrected that because I always say $ 200, 000,
• 3:06:54
  Speaker 22: but you can get in with $ 100, 000. It's just that
• 3:06:56
  Speaker 22: other criteria that you have to meet so that... just
• 3:07:00
  Speaker 22: how hedge funds work, if you will.
• 3:07:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's... No, it's the law.
• 3:07:06
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 3:07:06
  Speaker 4: That's the law. That's what it takes to get in.
• 3:07:10
  Speaker 22: You decided when you formed this, you decided to bring
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 22: that to our community where people are familiar with you
• 3:07:16
  Speaker 22: and what you've done in the past and... your reputation,
• 3:07:20
  Speaker 22: you decide, I'm going to bring it to the community
• 3:07:22
  Speaker 22: because we really, I don't know that we've ever had
• 3:07:25
  Speaker 22: anything like this around here on.
• 3:07:26
  Speaker 4: A local level.
• 3:07:29
  Speaker 5: And you probably will not see it again. Listen, I'm
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 5: going to be straight with you, like always in this program.
• 3:07:36
  Speaker 5: It takes elephant balls to do this. It takes a
• 3:07:39
  Speaker 5: ridiculous amount of cost, research, and balls, and avenues that
• 3:07:44
  Speaker 5: they don't put out there. The reason why you don't
• 3:07:46
  Speaker 5: know about private equity funds and hedge funds is because
• 3:07:49
  Speaker 5: it's like a secret sauce to even get into it.
• 3:07:53
  Speaker 5: That community is very ironclad tight, and it took me
• 3:07:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of years to learn how to get into
• 3:07:59
  Speaker 5: it and then do it right. So that's the reason.
• 3:08:03
  Speaker 22: And to find the people that you teamed up with
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 22: as well.
• 3:08:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was key, yeah.
• 3:08:09
  Speaker 4: The right people.
• 3:08:10
  Speaker 22: Because if, if I just mentioned Steve's name again, he was,
• 3:08:14
  Speaker 22: you said number four in the country or was it number.
• 3:08:16
  Speaker 4: Six in the country?
• 3:08:18
  Speaker 23: No, no.
• 3:08:18
  Speaker 5: Last year he was number six. He was number two
• 3:08:21
  Speaker 5: in March. You know, we, unfortunately we, we went down
• 3:08:24
  Speaker 5: a couple of launches to number four, but needs to
• 3:08:27
  Speaker 5: say he's competitive. He's different. He's competitive. He's like a
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 5: Steve jobs competitor. I'm an out there brash competitor. Like
• 3:08:34
  Speaker 5: we both want to get to the, we want to
• 3:08:35
  Speaker 5: be number one. I would love to put a billboard on,
• 3:08:38
  Speaker 5: Some day it says John Arnold envisioned number one in
• 3:08:41
  Speaker 5: the country for performance in Youngstown, Ohio. I mean, that's
• 3:08:45
  Speaker 5: my ultimate dream, and we're trying to get there. So
• 3:08:48
  Speaker 5: we're not satisfied with the ranking right now. We're really not.
• 3:08:52
  Speaker 22: Right. But it takes time. The hedge fund has just started.
• 3:08:55
  Speaker 22: The name of the hedge fund is.
• 3:08:56
  Speaker 21: What, John?
• 3:08:58
  Speaker 5: Vision 2030 Fund. Again, Vision 2030 Fund. My vision is
• 3:09:03
  Speaker 5: to be number one by 2030. That's the reason why
• 3:09:07
  Speaker 5: I named it that way.
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 4: So which is a mere four years from now, incidentally.
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 22: So the bottom line is this. I mean, there's 100 openings.
• 3:09:16
  Speaker 22: You got obviously a number of them are full filled
• 3:09:19
  Speaker 22: already with the people that that are in. And there are.
• 3:09:24
  Speaker 22: Once it hits onward, they close. John reports on our
• 3:09:28
  Speaker 22: program and on the air, incidentally, to people, whether you're
• 3:09:32
  Speaker 22: a part of it or not, how they did the
• 3:09:35
  Speaker 22: previous month. Once it's all verified and all the legalities
• 3:09:39
  Speaker 22: of it is buttoned up to say, here's how we
• 3:09:41
  Speaker 22: did the previous month. And here's the returns that we
• 3:09:45
  Speaker 22: got the previous month.
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 10: Month.
• 3:09:48
  Speaker 22: In a hedge fund, they move things around very rapidly
• 3:09:51
  Speaker 22: and very quickly on this type of approach. So if
• 3:09:56
  Speaker 22: that's something that you met the criteria that John mentioned
• 3:09:59
  Speaker 22: earlier on the program, then you can get a hold
• 3:10:02
  Speaker 22: of John and simply call or to ask questions or
• 3:10:07
  Speaker 22: to email him as well. And the number to do
• 3:10:10
  Speaker 22: that again, John, and the email address is?
• 3:10:13
  Speaker 5: The email address is john J-O-N. J-O-N, period, Arnold, at theinvestmentcoach.com. So, John, period, Arnold,
• 3:10:23
  Speaker 5: at theinvestment.coach. I accidentally said it wrong the first time again,
• 3:10:27
  Speaker 5: so let me give you one more time. John, period, Arnold,
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 5: at theinvestment.coach. Phone number, 330-288-7709. Again, 330-288-7709. You call that.
• 3:10:35
  Speaker 5: If I don't answer, I'll get back to you and...
• 3:10:44
  Speaker 5: As always, thanks for the audience listenership. Great show as always, Ron.
• 3:10:47
  Speaker 5: I appreciate everything you do.
• 3:10:48
  Speaker 4: Thank you. That's John Arnold. Appreciate it, John. Thank you.
• 3:10:51
  Speaker 5: See you.
• 3:10:51
  Speaker 22: John Arnold on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. I sense the excitement
• 3:10:57
  Speaker 22: in his voice for the Vision 2030. I genuinely do.
• 3:11:02
  Speaker 22: It's always interesting to hear what John has to say. Hey,
• 3:11:05
  Speaker 22: I appreciate you listening and tuning in. We call it
• 3:11:07
  Speaker 22: a wraps for the night. Guardians played earlier today, so
• 3:11:11
  Speaker 22: that means a night of Sean Hannity straight ahead. And
• 3:11:16
  Speaker 22: more as the night goes on from NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 3:11:20
  Speaker 22: We'll regroup tomorrow afternoon at 3 o'clock, and we'll talk more.
• 3:11:24
  Speaker 22: Thanks for tuning in and listening. Ron Verb from the
• 3:11:26
  Speaker 22: Kingdom of Mahoning, NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 3:11:28
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