Latest / The Junto Podcast / E71: Damaged Emotions Dominate
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- 0:10Hello, America. Welcome to the Junto podcast, where we promote the practical
- 0:14applications of critical thinking and bold creativity.
- 0:18I'm your host, Edgar Mills. Thank you for joining us.
- 0:29Hello, America. Thanks for sticking with me. I appreciate each and every one
- 0:34of you good people. All right.
- 0:37So this episode is not easy breezy at all.
- 0:43But I've been talking about contradictions, but then I got an episode on resentment.
- 0:48Well, I'm going to continue on with the resentment theme here,
- 0:52and I'm going to talk about something that's deeper and even more harsh than
- 0:57what I've spoken of in the past.
- 1:00And that's resentment in the immediate family unit, right? The husband and wife or children.
- 1:09It can be explosive, yeah, but it's a slow, corrosive sort of resentment.
- 1:16And it builds. Yeah, it builds. That's why I say it's not necessarily explosive
- 1:20at first, But it erodes our connection.
- 1:25It erodes the way we interact, our maturity level, our emotional safety.
- 1:34I want to say that again in this episode a couple times probably to everyone
- 1:39involved. It erodes all those things.
- 1:43And that acid leaks in the gaps between what,
- 1:48our expectations and our reality That was the way we thought it was going to
- 1:55be The way we think it ought to be Expectations And then there's the way it is The reality.
- 2:05Whatever idealistic fantasies of a carefree, you know, young adulthood or youth,
- 2:12whatever freedom we thought we were going to have to chase whatever adventure,
- 2:18however we thought relationships were supposed to develop, form and develop,
- 2:26it don't always play out like that in real life.
- 2:30And then throw in early parenthood.
- 2:34And now you have other little lives to tend to.
- 2:41What follows is a little explosion of, well, unmet needs, unmet wants,
- 2:51underdeveloped emotional needs, poor emotional regulation.
- 2:59And then sort of a cycle of, well, blame that you project onto the children, and they absorb it all.
- 3:10Even though they can't articulate it, they don't know what, but they absorb
- 3:13them. The blame and the emotional jabs. Hmm.
- 3:20So that early, well, let's just talk about the mother-child dynamic here for a minute.
- 3:27Women who give birth very young, and I say very young, you know,
- 3:32maybe late teens, even early 20s, but it was unplanned, right?
- 3:37Whether they were unmarried or they were in a, maybe a short-lived marriage,
- 3:41that was probably doomed to fail based on.
- 3:47Lack of maturity. And then there's the unplanned pregnancy.
- 3:52Well, motherhood at that point can probably feel a little bit less like bringing
- 3:57in a beautiful life into the world and more like somebody stole your childhood
- 4:04or your young adulthood.
- 4:08They stole your time and your ability to find yourself.
- 4:17All your friends are out there going to the clubs,
- 4:21perusing tinder hooking up,
- 4:26dating blazing through their 20s trying drugs sleeping with exotic dudes,
- 4:36maybe traveling maybe traveling the world just living the life so it seems to you,
- 4:46meanwhile you're changing diapers,
- 4:49and getting zero sleep and,
- 4:54trying to figure out how you're going to afford the groceries what programs
- 5:00can i be on it's not glamorous it's not sexy,
- 5:07And really, I mean, even the most loving mother, it's not fun changing a shitty diaper.
- 5:16And those children or that child, whatever, becomes, well, a highly visible,
- 5:25daily reminder of what you feel like was taken from you.
- 5:32Carefree lifestyle you thought it was going to be, whatever that self-discovery
- 5:38you thought you were going to have time for.
- 5:41Because that's all traded out now for constant responsibility.
- 5:46And it's tough. It's very tough.
- 5:51Now, you may not build a resentment out of pure malice, And it probably isn't out of pure malice.
- 5:59I learned a new word doing this research, and it's called matrescence.
- 6:06But it's a profound, seemingly forced identity reorganization,
- 6:16from going from carefree young girl to responsibility burdened mother.
- 6:27And look, within that, there exists real grief. It's real.
- 6:32I'm not taking away, I'm not invalidating your real feelings.
- 6:39But resentment is not the way. Resentment is corrosive and it's ugly.
- 6:48And unchecked, it will, well, we'll see.
- 6:54And the changes that happen during pregnancy in your brain are similar to the,
- 7:00they parallel the sort of development of an adolescent.
- 7:06And, well, the younger the mother having the baby, the less time that your brain
- 7:15and your emotions had to fully develop. So,
- 7:21it gets cut off right there. That development kind of gets cut off. or at least paused.
- 7:28And so the young mother lacks the emotional maturity or the emotional infrastructure,
- 7:35and possibly even the support, the family support maybe even,
- 7:41or possibly lacks anything remotely considering any childcare knowledge and experience.
- 7:49That's where you're at.
- 7:53Your growth is now paused so that you can nurture a young life. And this,
- 8:02creates an isolation, and that isolation kind of intensifies your sense of your burden.
- 8:10And then that burden intensifies that resentment.
- 8:14And because of that emotional and mental lack of maturity, You don't have the
- 8:20capacity to separate your own unfinished development from your child's now need for it.
- 8:29Well, initially, just physical development, just keeping them alive.
- 8:37But even from the brand new infant, they feel the energy.
- 8:43And if it's negative, they feel it. And it develops like that.
- 8:50Is it malice? No, not necessarily, but it might grow into that.
- 9:01The resentment can manifest itself. Well, it manifests itself in many ways.
- 9:05It can manifest as physical abuse, and that is no bueno.
- 9:12There in no way is that acceptable. And I know this is hard to believe,
- 9:17but almost worse yet, emotional abuse, almost worse.
- 9:23Born of just you being harsh or just neglecting or withholding affection.
- 9:30You become irritable that your child has needs because they're imposing on your,
- 9:36scrolling or your texting.
- 9:40So you're irritated that your child has needs.
- 9:43Never mind developing them just satisfying a base need mom I'm hungry.
- 9:52And then you're either intentionally or unintentionally withholding of your,
- 9:57well, affection and warmth.
- 10:00Because you're irritated with them and because you have a little resentment,
- 10:03now you don't openly love them without cause, without prompt.
- 10:11And then you become critical because now they start doing little things to get
- 10:14your attention. Now they become even more annoying because they need your attention.
- 10:19They want your attention. They want your love and your emotional warmth that you lack.
- 10:25And now you're even more asked up because now they're doing little things to
- 10:28get your attention. And if you have multiple kids, now you got multiple kids
- 10:32vying for your attention.
- 10:34And you're overwhelmed because it's chaotic.
- 10:37And then any attention you do give is obligatory. It's cold.
- 10:42Mom, I'm hungry. What's for dinner? There's cold pizza in the fridge.
- 10:47So mom's more poor decisions have now created a cycle,
- 10:54of poor decisions and that emotional coldness leads itself to poor relationships,
- 11:03because that's what the children have,
- 11:06and then there the potential for substance abuse is always there i'm not going
- 11:10to belabor that stuff too much right now.
- 11:13Financial chaos, the inability to manage money.
- 11:17And then all that frustration comes out as resentment toward the children.
- 11:22You have a mentality that you look at your kids and you think to yourself internally,
- 11:28if it weren't for you, I would be able to X, Y, Z.
- 11:34Then the It's the norm at your house. The standard is affection is transactional. It's conditional.
- 11:42If a kid's being quiet, they're over in the corner on their little device,
- 11:48then they get a little scruff on the head.
- 11:53If they need something, then they're getting the anger or the coldness.
- 12:00So that's conditioning them. Be quiet. Stay out of my way.
- 12:04Love becomes a tool.
- 12:08Or it's like currency. And it's only given under certain conditions based on
- 12:17the child's behavior or their ability to,
- 12:22meet their own needs, to do their own laundry at a ridiculously young age.
- 12:31And then what does modern research tell us? Well, it tells us that that creates
- 12:37anxiety, creates low, low self-esteem,
- 12:42creates unregulated emotional capability.
- 12:48And then ultimately it creates resentment in the child. The child begins to
- 12:52resent you once they start getting older and understanding.
- 12:57I view it as selfishness.
- 12:59And selfishness, maybe initially it didn't, it came from, it was just a survival
- 13:05mechanism for you in this situation.
- 13:12And it was just, you're a manifestation of your own unmet needs and your lack
- 13:21of freedom and your lack of validation.
- 13:25How many people give you kudos for doing good? Not many, right?
- 13:31For doing the baseline, you don't get kudos. You get kudos for going above and beyond.
- 13:37And so since you don't ever get any of those kudos, you get zero validation.
- 13:42And inside, you feel empty.
- 13:45And you never develop the capacity to deal with that. And what it leads to is a lack of empathy.
- 13:52Because you don't get any validation. You don't think anybody else needs it.
- 13:54You don't have ability to look inside other people to include your children,
- 14:00to see how is this affecting them.
- 14:03Could I do something different to achieve the same goals, but where it has a
- 14:10more positive impact on them? You don't have the capacity to do that. You lack empathy.
- 14:16And you have this sort of sour ambivalence toward motherhood.
- 14:21Children are a burden. And one author out there made the statement that mothers
- 14:29are supposed to hate their children at times.
- 14:35I wholly disagree with that. And there's two things here. One,
- 14:40hate is a big word, a very big word.
- 14:45It's not, hey, you're supposed to be annoyed with your children once in a while,
- 14:50or you're supposed to be aggravated with your children once in a while.
- 14:52No, no, no. You're supposed to hate your children at times.
- 14:57And what bizarro world. How? Why?
- 15:00Because hate is, well, I said resentment was corrosive. Hate, oh my God.
- 15:09And if that hate, well, it does, definitely hardens into, well, emotional rejection.
- 15:17Like now you're not even aggravated with them. You completely reject their need
- 15:21for any emotional comfort whatsoever.
- 15:25And then you have zero mothering skills. So everything you say is said in anger,
- 15:32or emotional disconnection.
- 15:35And the children are existing in a state of permanent invalidation.
- 15:41Not only do they not get any validation, but now with that angst and that resentment
- 15:47and that hate, they're invalidated. They feel less than.
- 15:53And they don't even know why. They have no idea why. they just feel it.
- 16:01The cycle continues. So mom's lack of maturity and maturity and emotional development,
- 16:09drives further poor choices.
- 16:13The children absorb those poor choices. They don't know what you're saying or
- 16:18how or why or context, but what they do here is toned and they do feel the energy.
- 16:27And then as those children grow and they struggle with their own relationship
- 16:33problems and emptiness.
- 16:36What's the logical step there?
- 16:39I got kids. If I weren't already married, I need to be married because I need help.
- 16:46Resentment between spouses. Oh, my God.
- 16:51Resentment between spouses creates a negative storm.
- 16:59A corrosive storm that just eats away at all the goodness.
- 17:06And if it can't be checked, it has to be deleted.
- 17:12And it follows the same path of interrupted development.
- 17:18So let's set it up. Two people, two good-looking young people meet,
- 17:22I don't know, out at a bar or online on a dating app. And they expect,
- 17:28yeah, that person's pretty good looking. Might be a little tasty.
- 17:34Let's give it a go.
- 17:38For whatever reason, they don't do the long-term math and they do what they do.
- 17:45And then pregnancy arrives in the way that pregnancies do.
- 17:49There's a very predictable outcome putting your penis inside a vagina it's a
- 17:59very predictable outcome.
- 18:04The pregnancy comes. And God bless you. You chose life over death.
- 18:10You chose to bring the baby into the world and good on you for that.
- 18:16It was the morally correct thing to do. But then the subsequent marriage,
- 18:23the partnership, the contract before God and the state of whoever,
- 18:33you go into this partnership with zero emotional maturity neither one of you
- 18:37have zero any emotional maturity whatsoever you don't even know that you have
- 18:42the same value system because you met.
- 18:49And that's it. So you never even discussed anything of any substance.
- 18:56And any skill necessary for a long-term partnership, you don't have it because you didn't develop.
- 19:05You're still in development phase yourself.
- 19:08But the pregnancy put a pause on that.
- 19:12So the baby comes along and now you guys are facing parenting challenges.
- 19:18And massive incompatibilities start to arise to the surface.
- 19:25Maybe even alcoholism or drug use rises to the surface.
- 19:30Little secret sexual dalliances linger out there amidst the unhappiness.
- 19:37Financial irresponsibility is the norm, not the exception.
- 19:44You have no idea how to manage what little money even comes in,
- 19:48and you guys deal with conflict in polar opposite ways neither one of you,
- 19:57have the capacity to deal with conflict in a healthy way neither one of you
- 20:02have the same capacity for intimacy true intimacy,
- 20:06anybody can have sex that's not intimacy,
- 20:10that's just physical bits,
- 20:13anybody can do it everybody does it it's out there it's crazy,
- 20:18neither one of you have a capacity for intimacy because you're guarded you're always guarded and.
- 20:28Take full responsibility for your own actions. You don't have the capacity.
- 20:32You don't know how to be accountable to someone else.
- 20:36You're not even accountable to yourself. You don't know how to be accountable to someone else.
- 20:41Each of you justify your own fucked up behaviors in your own way.
- 20:46Well, she did this so I can do that. He did this so I can do it. It's scorekeeping.
- 20:52It's relational score keeping i'm keeping tabs that way i know what i can get
- 20:57away with or what i can bring up when i get caught doing xyz,
- 21:02and in every opportunity you get even if you're not fighting about a thing you
- 21:07ample you you focus in on each other's flaws you magnify each other's flaws to chip away at their,
- 21:18security, their emotional security, as opposed to building each other up.
- 21:24So you both struggle to find higher ground, moral higher ground.
- 21:27Well, I found this out about him, but then tables turn. It's a constant turning
- 21:34of the tables, both of you trying to one-up each other instead of build up each other.
- 21:43Any honesty that may exist in a relationship is piecemeal it's little half truths,
- 21:49that way you can keep the door open for your little fucked up thing you're doing,
- 21:53well my friend though where are we're friends,
- 21:56so you keep the door open with your half truths,
- 22:00keeping the door the door open that's a lack of accountability to your spouse and to yourself.
- 22:08If you don't deliberately close the door, you want it open.
- 22:14In any respect, if there ever was any, is now just eroded away and it turns
- 22:21into contempt and resentment.
- 22:26Continues. So what you call a
- 22:29home, now it's just a frigging minefield of excuses and tiptoeing around,
- 22:36explosive emotional angst, hiding this, hiding that, because you don't want
- 22:42to deal with the outfall, the outcome of it.
- 22:47You throw weak-ass justifications at each other for doing whatever it is you did.
- 22:53And then you overly harshly condemn the other for whatever it is they did.
- 23:00Meanwhile, meanwhile, your children are hearing every word.
- 23:07Do they know what the words mean? Maybe not. Do they know the context of the words? Maybe not.
- 23:12But they hear the tones. They hear the mood. They feel the heavy mood.
- 23:18They hear doors slamming. and they hear raised voices, they feel the energy.
- 23:24And all that shit that two immature, selfish adults squabble over gets etched
- 23:33into these children's brains,
- 23:35and they have two very fucked-up models of failed intimacy, zero rational conflict resolution,
- 23:50and zero self-worth.
- 23:52And what's the inevitable outcome of this? Yeah, divorce. Divorce is the inevitable outcome.
- 24:03You intensify so much that neither one of you can take it anymore.
- 24:09But still, because of the lack of accountability, you both feel completely justified.
- 24:14Without any thoughts whatsoever of your piece of the pie there,
- 24:19of what you did to help influence this outcome, you feel fully justified.
- 24:29So now you go to go to trashing each other on social media or going to trash
- 24:33each other in the courts so that i can withhold the visitation i'm going to
- 24:40use my children as a weapon against you now,
- 24:45neither one of you been honest with yourselves,
- 24:49the children witness all this madness and all this mudslinging.
- 24:53Parents start ripping on the other parent to the children to try to manipulate them.
- 25:03Pawns to be sacrificed in your fucked up little game against each other.
- 25:10Thus the cycle continues. Your children have now inherited all of your emotional damage,
- 25:18all of your piss poor patterns, all of your immaturity, and they will never
- 25:26have a solid relationship.
- 25:28And they may never even be productive humans.
- 25:31And as this cycle goes on, and as you guys are doing the things you're doing to each other,
- 25:39without either realizing or caring what you're doing to your children,
- 25:45you're just contributing to a fucked up society.
- 25:49Because what you're doing is you're producing little humans that don't have
- 25:56the ability to interact with other humans in a positive way,
- 26:03in a way that is.
- 26:08Positive, in a way that can get relationships built and solid and lasting.
- 26:18Even going to work, they can't even have good relationships with work people
- 26:22because they're conditional, because that's what they've learned.
- 26:27And the longer-term effects are these kids go out and they, substance abuse,
- 26:33horrible, horrible relationships, one after the other, maybe teen pregnancies.
- 26:39If you have a little girl, yeah, there's very big statistics on this, folks, very big.
- 26:48Anything new. There's nothing new. You're not recreating anything.
- 26:52You're not, or you're not creating anything new. There's, you don't have any new, unique problems.
- 26:58Everything that you do with these, these bickering and then,
- 27:02and then fights and these, and cheating and drinking and boozing and, and running off.
- 27:11It's all been done before. It's in the textbooks. and,
- 27:18already been given, you're not unique. You're a cliche.
- 27:24The mechanism's pretty obvious. Emotionally immature adults who put their own
- 27:30needs before the needs of their children, and I mean their own superficial needs,
- 27:36never mind the deeper needs.
- 27:38When your own needs take priority over all else and you lack any meaningful
- 27:46emotional regulation whatsoever,
- 27:49and anything expected of you becomes a challenge and you become defensive that
- 27:56anything is expected of you,
- 27:59you lack any ability to reflect upon your your own your own part in this game,
- 28:07and then you you treat the children as burdens and just annoyances and that
- 28:14possibly even if it weren't for the children the marriage could be better,
- 28:19and you treat your children like tools against the spouse.
- 28:24Instead of treating the children like little individuals that they are little
- 28:29individuals with emotional needs and developmental needs, real physical and
- 28:35emotional and mental developmental needs.
- 28:40When you disregard those needs for your own or your affections are transactional,
- 28:47they're contingent, they're conditional,
- 28:51and that's what you're teaching them, that love is conditional. Use it as a tool.
- 28:57It must be earned Love must be earned,
- 29:02Respect must be earned Love should be unconditional Amongst your family It's
- 29:08easy to predict the future folks You can just go read the books I read the books,
- 29:13It's easy to predict the future.
- 29:16It's easy to predict the future,
- 29:19without any real and true.
- 29:27And accountability, thus the cycle continues.
- 29:32There's data out there, folks. There's data. Almost universal.
- 29:36It's everywhere. There's so much.
- 29:38This isn't some unstudied new science here.
- 29:44I already said it. You're not doing anything new. It's in the books already.
- 29:49You can reverse this. This can be reversed, not only stopped and you just go
- 29:54on with the damage you have. You can reverse this damage if you're willing to, honestly.
- 30:00But it starts with working on yourself. You taking responsibility for the way
- 30:04you treat people, your family, and not allowing yourself to erupt in anger or
- 30:12to show the frustration,
- 30:14to build your own emotional maturity, to work on your relationship skills, do what you can do.
- 30:22Maybe they're not going to respond straight away. They might even be skeptical
- 30:26of your spouse, but you don't stop there.
- 30:30You're not going to get the instant feedback, folks. That's what everybody wants.
- 30:34They want the instant fix. Oh, well, I said this.
- 30:37Well, I said, I'm sorry, but I don't change years of.
- 30:44Mistrust and abuse and verbal abuse and all these things.
- 30:50You don't get instant feedback. that. It's work.
- 30:54And look, the ultimate goal ain't just staying together for the kids.
- 30:59At some point, it's more healthy to divorce so that the kids don't have to witness this.
- 31:04The problem is they're just going to witness it again in a different relationship
- 31:09because you haven't worked on yourself.
- 31:12Yeah, you can get out of one relationship because it's It's damaging your children and damaging you.
- 31:21And then you get back into another relationship and the same cycle continues,
- 31:26because you haven't fixed yourself.
- 31:32Together, as opposed to even considering divorce, consider actually becoming
- 31:38a team together and consider, hey, let's change the mood of this house.
- 31:47Now, I'm a strong believer that the husband sets the tone.
- 31:51The husband sets the tone, the mood, the energy.
- 31:56You come home with a smile on your face and you hug everybody up,
- 32:00big kiss, scruff on the hair.
- 32:03Hey guys, I love you. What you been doing today?
- 32:08The husband sets the tone. I read a random thing from one woman to another that
- 32:16said something to the effect of, he came home today and he chose violence.
- 32:22Not meaning physical violence, meaning emotional violence, anger.
- 32:29Choose together to create an environment where everybody is emotionally safe
- 32:36and secure to say the things that's on their mind, things that they are concerned about,
- 32:44to say the things that they're worried about or the things that they love.
- 32:49Create the genuine connection not just a little short pieces the genuine connection
- 32:54with your kids and your spouse you can do it if you just relax yourself open yourself up,
- 33:02but adults don't want to open themselves up if they feel like they're going to get ambushed.
- 33:09Each other at every opportunity, you're a part of the problem.
- 33:14Take your own accountability of yourself first. You should be accountable to
- 33:18each other, absolutely. Be accountable to yourself.
- 33:23And if you've done all this work honestly, and it still leads to divorce,
- 33:27the honest effort has been put forth.
- 33:30And I mean the honest, real, long-term effort.
- 33:36First, folks. That's what nobody wants to accept, is that you have to fix yourself first.
- 33:42Nobody wants to fix themselves because nobody wants to admit fault.
- 33:47Nobody wants to look deep within and think, ah, could I have done that differently?
- 33:54How did that benefit me, really?
- 33:56If you're just doing shit to get the upper hand, you're all wrong.
- 34:01Work on yourself first. And then if you've resolve to work on yourself,
- 34:07and you're taking actions based on that, which means you're consciously aware
- 34:11of how your emotions are flaring, how your anger might flare, or your resentment,
- 34:18or the burden that the kids are putting on you, if you just breathe it out and
- 34:23take that child not as a burden,
- 34:26but as an act of love,
- 34:29the love will spring up in you folks, but I'm just talking utopia here.
- 34:36Therapy exists. Go to it.
- 34:40Take wise words from people who know more than you. Excuse me.
- 34:47Implement those things.
- 34:51And you guys, I always poop on therapy, but this is a case where it's necessary
- 34:56because you've got two dysfunctional individuals come together to create a dysfunctional monster,
- 35:05that are just creating dysfunctional kids.
- 35:08It's, it's horrible. It.
- 35:13And you're just contributing to a toxic society overall as opposed to a healthy
- 35:19society, go to therapy. Name these problems.
- 35:24Open yourself up to accept that, like, yes, I may be a part of this problem.
- 35:28I may be contributing fuel to this fire.
- 35:33What are some tools to change that?
- 35:36You may find some long-term childhood trauma of your own. You probably will.
- 35:42Even what you consider to be pretty good parents. Still, they were young at
- 35:46some point. They did not have the answers.
- 35:49They were going parenting trial and error style, just like most parents do to start off with.
- 35:55Some try harder than others. Some error harder than others.
- 36:01You might find some childhood problems that started early,
- 36:06but you can stop that from being transferred down the line, and you should that
- 36:11should bother you enough like shit I got this from my parents I don't want to
- 36:17pass it on to my kids now I've.
- 36:22If there's alcohol or substance abuse involved, that has to get fixed first.
- 36:29And that's not an easy fix, I get it. But it has to be addressed.
- 36:33You cannot build anything on that foundation.
- 36:36That's a foundation on sand.
- 36:39And every time a wave of booze flushes in, whatever was built there goes out to sea. It's no good.
- 36:45Nothing is going to get fixed without that being fixed first.
- 36:49And you got to be honest with yourself about it.
- 36:52So therapy, there's some stuff. Now there's some methodology out there and I'm
- 36:56going to tell you about this one. I think it's a good one. I like it. I like the analogy.
- 37:00The Gottman Method, they call it identifying and replacing the four horsemen.
- 37:07The four horsemen of the apocalypse, right?
- 37:09And those four horsemen of the apocalypse, the relationship apocalypse,
- 37:14criticism, contempt, Contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling.
- 37:22Think about that. Are these things in your relationship? Do you heavily criticize
- 37:27one another or your children?
- 37:30Do you hold contempt for your husband, spouse, wife, or children?
- 37:36And think about that. Don't just say, no, I don't. Think about it.
- 37:40Are you always defensive? Every time somebody opens their mouth,
- 37:44you feel like you're having to defend your position or your actions.
- 37:49And look, some of them, there's nothing you can do to defend.
- 37:52You've done something so fucked up, it's indefensible.
- 37:56But you'll make up some defense. Think about that.
- 38:00And then stonewalling. That's just going silent, comms black.
- 38:06I'm not telling you anything. Tool.
- 38:10For some imaginary metric, I'm not saying anything until you calm down.
- 38:14Meanwhile, it's just causing more anger. Do you do any of those things?
- 38:19The four horsemen of the relationship, apocalypse, criticism,
- 38:24contempt, defensiveness, stonewalling.
- 38:28And Gottman Method says you replace those. Now, it's a little anecdotal, but be with me.
- 38:33Gentle startup. So you ease into a conversation, right?
- 38:38Building a culture of appreciation in your house as opposed to contempt.
- 38:45A husband can come home and give his wife a kiss. Babe, thanks for holding the
- 38:50house down today. I love you.
- 38:53Take responsibility for your own actions.
- 38:59Says here, physiological self-soothing.
- 39:04That seems a little jinky to me. I liken that to maybe going to the gym or maybe
- 39:10getting a little massage or maybe,
- 39:14not substance-wise. All right, no substance or no unhealthy self-soothing.
- 39:21You can get emotional coaching from a professional and learn how to recognize
- 39:28feelings and learn how to validate your spouse.
- 39:32Learn how to label your emotions, properly label them.
- 39:36Learn how to have boundaries. Even in a marriage, there needs to be some boundaries.
- 39:43Learn how to problem solve together. And if you can learn that together as a
- 39:48couple, you can then transfer those skills to your children.
- 39:51And in transferring those skills, you're building a relationship,
- 39:58a real genuine relationship.
- 40:00It's not just go clean your room, go change your brother's diaper,
- 40:06go do the dishes, go do your laundry, go clean up the yard. That's not a relationship.
- 40:14That's not a relationship.
- 40:16So if you can do those things together, you can do those with your kids,
- 40:21and that'll improve everybody's reaction to each other.
- 40:27And then there's relational life therapy, a fellow named Terry Real,
- 40:31and then the Imago Dialogue.
- 40:33This direct confrontation of dysfunctional patterns combined with structured
- 40:39listening that slows reactivity and fosters empathy.
- 40:44Some people ain't there yet i think that i think you have to be a little more
- 40:47mature for that one yeah some people aren't there yet,
- 40:53and then there's integrative behavioral couple therapy and skills training that
- 40:58helps to manage emotions and helps you to be more.
- 41:04In the way you think about a problem, and it helps you moderate your own behavior.
- 41:11Then there's some little tools. They talk about agreed timeouts, adult timeouts.
- 41:18Hey, let's just take a timeout, okay? Go to your corner.
- 41:25I don't know about that. I'm not a professional, right? But then there's a thing.
- 41:30I like this one. It's kind of silly. Biff, B-I-F-F. If the Biff response, well,
- 41:36even in a heated thing, be brief, be very, very short, and just deliver only,
- 41:44factual and informative words.
- 41:48And do it in a friendly tone, even though it's brief, still do it in a friendly, even tone.
- 41:53And then be firm in your stance on this situation. And then be done with it and let it simmer.
- 42:02The friendly portion is big because i told you and i've said it a couple times,
- 42:08children might not understand the words but they understand the tone they understand the energy,
- 42:14so if you are delivering this whether it's a critique or a pointed question,
- 42:20be brief be informative Be friendly and be firm about it.
- 42:27And then make deliberate, folks, you have to decide that you want things to be better.
- 42:31You, as an individual, have to make a deliberate attempt to repair the problem.
- 42:40Ignoring the problem don't make it go away, folks. Having done your fucked up
- 42:44thing up until last week, and then say, okay, I was wrong, but never admitting
- 42:50that you've done it. Thank you.
- 42:54Water because it doesn't lend itself to the trust that you don't trust enough,
- 43:00to openly admit you're just admitting something was wrong and i'll stop doing something,
- 43:06or you're telling the half truth so that the door can stay cracked open then
- 43:09you're not really committed,
- 43:12if you leave the door cracked you ain't committed but if you use these techniques
- 43:18and even in front of your children that that especially the brief informative friendly and firm,
- 43:24they're learning something that's productive and more healthy than unhealthy.
- 43:31And when it comes to your kids, folks, your love, your attention,
- 43:37your help, your validation should not be conditional in any way,
- 43:41whether they did the dishes and cleaned their room or not.
- 43:46The love should be there. At some point, they will want to do the right thing,
- 43:51for you just because they love you.
- 43:53Not because you're going to give them some instant validation.
- 43:58You should always be loving with your children. Maybe not spilling over loving,
- 44:03but don't neglect touch, folks.
- 44:07Pat on the head, a little hug. Don't neglect it. It's important because children need that touch as well.
- 44:15Shit, maybe adults need that sometimes too. A thought ran through my mind.
- 44:21I was sitting on the couch the other night and my grown ass daughter,
- 44:2524 year old daughter, um.
- 44:31She plops down on my lap and throws her arms around my neck and lays her head
- 44:34on my chest. And I'm holding her up like she was a baby.
- 44:41And she just stayed there for a little while. That's it. I gave her a little kiss on her forehead.
- 44:47I even don't judge. I'll pat her on her ass.
- 44:52My family, we hug. We're huggers amongst the family.
- 44:56I don't like strangers touching me, but that's another thing. It's another episode.
- 45:03My grown daughter. And then what came to my mind was, look, one of my favorite
- 45:08all-time movies ever was Rebel Without a Cause with James Dean, Natalie Wood.
- 45:15And it was arguably like one of the first early, like epic teen angst movies.
- 45:22It was called Rebel Without a Cause.
- 45:24As most teens are, he was rebellious.
- 45:27He didn't like this and that and the other well what he didn't like was the
- 45:31hypocrisy of his parents which is also probably common amongst a lot of teens,
- 45:37is there they think their parents are all wrong and they're rebelling against
- 45:40whatever their parents are doing or whatever the system is,
- 45:45anyway there's a scene in that movie,
- 45:48natalie wood i don't even know was probably 15 or 16 at the time,
- 45:52maybe in reality, maybe a little older, I don't know.
- 45:56But she was, they were playing, they were high school students, right? And.
- 46:03Wood like that character their family sitting around a dinner now this is 1955
- 46:07folks they're sitting around the dinner table,
- 46:12and natalie wood has a little brother who's eight or nine and dad's sitting
- 46:17at the head of the table and the little brother comes in and he's got his little
- 46:21atomic age spaceman gun and blah blah blah and dad's like a little scamp,
- 46:28and the kid goes to sit down and and natalie woods that and she she goes over,
- 46:35and says something dad kind of has,
- 46:37not ignored her outright but just didn't really acknowledge and then she reached
- 46:41down and gave him a kiss on the cheek and he smacked her in the face,
- 46:45you're too old for that you're getting too that's not appropriate for a girl your age fuck Look,
- 46:54a teenage girl can't kiss her old man on the cheek.
- 46:59She needed affection. She wanted some acknowledgement, some validation.
- 47:04The little brother just got the little love, a little scruff on the head.
- 47:10The daughter, she told him something that she did that day, and he's,
- 47:14oh, very good, very good.
- 47:16Then she gives him a kiss, and he smacked her. Can you imagine that? Yeah.
- 47:23They need affection, even touch, even a kiss on the cheek or a kiss on the forehead.
- 47:29They need it, and it needs to be genuine, and it needs to be genuine,
- 47:34and it needs to be genuine. Love your children.
- 47:38Protection of our children is non-negotiable. It is non-negotiable.
- 47:42We have to contribute to the development of our kids in a positive, healthy way,
- 47:50and I'm not meaning to be religious here, but in a healthy Christian way.
- 47:56But even secular, it can be healthy.
- 47:59But they have to know where their values come from.
- 48:02We have to care for the kids.
- 48:05We have to raise them right.
- 48:07We have to put their emotional development over our own damaged emotions. We have to do it.
- 48:15We can heal ourselves. It's possible we can do it by taking accountability for ourselves.
- 48:24By choosing curiosity in our spouse over contempt, we can do it.
- 48:29This negative cycle, it's not destiny, folks. It's not destiny.
- 48:34We can be aware. We can build skills.
- 48:38And we can break the cycle. We can do it. You can do it.
- 48:43I love you, good people. Take care.