Latest / Pretty In Pink Again / Episode 49: From Vogue to The Connecticut Edit: Taste, Trust & Telling Your Own Story with Samantha Yanks
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- 0:00I'm Christina, and I'm t and this is the Pretty and Pink Again podcast.
- 0:03Where Motherhood meets Rediscovery.
- 0:16Today's guest is somebody whose opinion actually matters.
- 0:19She's a seasoned storyteller, worked at Vogue.
- 0:21She was a chief editor of Hampton's Magazine, and now she has created the CT edit where she curates the very best finds across Connecticut.
- 0:29What we love about Samantha is that when she shares something, it's because she's done the work, she's been around, she's seen the trends come and go.
- 0:36And if it's on her platform, you know it's a gem.
- 0:38You've spent so many years telling other people's stories.
- 0:41So welcome to Pretty and Pink Again, podcast, where today we're gonna hear yours.
- 0:45Welcome Samantha.
- 0:45Thank you so much for having me.
- 0:47Hey, and we have a little friend with us too.
- 0:49We're very excited to be here.
- 0:51Her most important role today, we dog mom.
- 0:53My most important role today is dog mom.
- 0:55This is our new 11 week old little Labrador Toby.
- 0:59I think we're gonna start making it a requirement that we have a dog in studio with us at all times.
- 1:04It's just, it's such a vibe for us.
- 1:06We usually, we have Noella.
- 1:08She's taken a little break today because they were going at it.
- 1:11Noella is a feisty girl.
- 1:12The puppy bites and they were having too much fun.
- 1:15So she's taken a little break and we have a little cutie in the house.
- 1:18We decided to start the morning with a puppy pla date.
- 1:21How fitting.
- 1:21God.
- 1:22A puppy, please.
- 1:23So what could be better than that?
- 1:24Thank you for coming up to the studio today.
- 1:26We're so excited and honored to have you here.
- 1:28Thank you so much for having us.
- 1:30We're excited to be here.
- 1:31Yeah, I am very excited to be here.
- 1:32Yeah.
- 1:32Toby's my plus one.
- 1:35Oh my gosh.
- 1:36We're happy to have you.
- 1:37We're glad that there was no catastrophe here at the studio this morning.
- 1:41It is usually hot mess express at this house until about 9:00 AM and then things quiet down.
- 1:46I was just starting to tell Christina about my morning yesterday, just so you can get to know me a little bit more.
- 1:51Yeah.
- 1:52I love it.
- 1:52So give it to me.
- 1:53I'll give it to you.
- 1:53So I have four kids.
- 1:55And I am a disaster, but somehow in motherhood it suits me because I can just roll with like chaos.
- 2:01So the mornings have been particularly chaotic lately.
- 2:05I have a son that like hops in the shower at seven 15 when the bus comes at seven 30.
- 2:09That kind of thing.
- 2:09Perfect.
- 2:10So I'm backing out of the driveway yesterday.
- 2:12Dog runs out of the house.
- 2:13We're late, we're this, we're that.
- 2:15And my husband parked his truck behind my car because of all the snow, and he just got a new like trailer hitch for the back of the truck.
- 2:23And I backed into the trailer hitch at 50 miles an hour and smash the entire back of my car.
- 2:28Wow.
- 2:29Just like really going for it.
- 2:30And the kids were like, oh my God, whatcha doing?
- 2:34I'm like, just a day in the life.
- 2:36I felt like such idiot.
- 2:37So then my son is calling my husband to tattle on me, no less like tattle on me.
- 2:41And I'm like, hang up the phone.
- 2:43Don't call dad.
- 2:44I'll call him later.
- 2:46I have to make the story sound much softer than what he was gonna tell him.
- 2:49So we're I, so we missed the bus.
- 2:51So I drive my kids to school, so I call my neighbor.
- 2:54Can you come stay with the girls?
- 2:55Yeah.
- 2:55Yeah.
- 2:55I'll be right there.
- 2:57And where we live, like there's like a main road.
- 3:00Yeah.
- 3:00And in the morning it's very congest congested.
- 3:02It's stop, go stop going.
- 3:04Even when the light turns green, the cars don't go because of like the cars coming in other direction.
- 3:08So the light turns green.
- 3:09Everybody started to go.
- 3:10Everybody stopped except for me, and I hit the guy in front of him.
- 3:13No.
- 3:13So now I got into two accident.
- 3:16I've never accident front and back accident, two accidents before 9:00 AM and I've never even been in one before.
- 3:21Oh, that was the thing.
- 3:22So I was like, oh my God.
- 3:24So my friend Nicole was next to me and saw the whole thing going on.
- 3:28So she rolled down her window and she was like, boys hop in.
- 3:31I'll drive you to school.
- 3:33Gotta put you outta your misery.
- 3:35That put me outta my misery.
- 3:36So that went a little smoother.
- 3:38That's a good friend.
- 3:39Was today smoother for you?
- 3:41Today was perfect.
- 3:42'cause I called a family meeting and I was like, okay, no cars allowed this.
- 3:47We cannot have mornings happen like this any anymore.
- 3:49This is why mom was stressed out.
- 3:51Okay.
- 3:51Not to put it all on you, but go.
- 3:54Alright, let's go.
- 3:55So this morning was much better.
- 3:56You look beautiful and pulled together, both of you, I have to tell you.
- 3:59Thank you.
- 3:59Thanks.
- 4:00It's all facade.
- 4:02It always is.
- 4:02That's what's going on the inside.
- 4:04We are so excited to have you here.
- 4:06You have had such a fascinating career arc, Vogue Hamptons Magazine, and now you have the Connecticut edit, which is yours.
- 4:14And when you look back, do you feel like you were constantly like reinventing yourself throughout.
- 4:22Those journeys.
- 4:24So it's really interesting to, I'm turning 50 this weekend and I know I'm pretty, ladies love it.
- 4:32This is a gift to myself, to just be here and have a conversation.
- 4:36'Cause it's actually my favorite thing to do is just take some time and pause and chat.
- 4:40Reflect Yep.
- 4:41And reflect and be with other women.
- 4:43So I have been thinking a lot as inevitably, I think when you have a milestone birthday Yeah.
- 4:50It's a chapter is closing and another one is opening.
- 4:52And so this has given me some time to reflect about what my career has looked like.
- 4:58And I think there is some sort of narrative that I wasn't wholly aware of at the time.
- 5:04This storytelling piece.
- 5:07I worked in a hyper corporate environment when I first started my career at Vogue.
- 5:12And the connection, the thread that has always.
- 5:16Been there, whether it's corporate or it's entrepreneurial, has really been this storytelling piece working with people who it is part of their narrative.
- 5:27It is in their DNA to tell stories.
- 5:30And really when you look back at Vogue, it, it was called the Fashion Bible, questionable, to some people if it still is today.
- 5:38But it was considered the fashion Bible when I was there at the time.
- 5:42And then I went to work for Oprah Winfrey after that.
- 5:46And there really is no one who has a, is more of a compelling storyteller than Oprah in my opinion.
- 5:52And then going into a place where we've launched our own platform.
- 5:57Really the connection has been this storytelling piece, trying to connect with people through.
- 6:03These types of discussions and whatever the medium is.
- 6:07I like podcasts because there's nothing like listening to someone tell their story a hundred percent.
- 6:13Love that, or to be able to absorb what's going on.
- 6:15Then hearing it in an audible way.
- 6:17Sometimes reading can be very cumbersome and pictures don't tell the full story, but sometimes you listen to people's voice and you hear things that.
- 6:27That takes storytelling to the next level.
- 6:29It's an instant connection because you're hearing somebody's voice and I do think it's hand in hand with magazines because there hasn't really been anything with long form conversations because social media is just snippets.
- 6:42So it does take you back to that sort, that long form storytelling and be really being able to not feel constricted by, like any sort of timestamp it feels less rushed.
- 6:54It is.
- 6:55And I think that's very needed and I think people miss that.
- 6:57I think that people are going back to reading and so it's interesting that we're doing this kind of full circle moment.
- 7:03Yeah.
- 7:04Yeah.
- 7:04Even when we look at the Connecticut edit, I'm sure we'll talk about it, but the intention was not.
- 7:09Where it has landed today.
- 7:11But what I found interesting is it was really started on social media.
- 7:15And then it went into the event space because people wanted this human connection.
- 7:20And there's been really more of an outcry for long form content.
- 7:24So I think it's really interesting because when we started it five years ago, it was really at the height of social.
- 7:32It was, people's attention span was, we couldn't go past an Instagram caption.
- 7:37And that Instagram caption could not be anywhere near the max had to be.
- 7:41So it was, today when we share stories on Instagram, we are at like 350 characters.
- 7:47They keep increasing it too.
- 7:49They keep increasing it and our community is crying out for more information.
- 7:54And we are now revisiting the website component of it and Substack and of course all the other, yeah.
- 8:01Which is kind going back to the blog phase again.
- 8:03Yeah, completely.
- 8:04We're bringing it back completely.
- 8:06Yep.
- 8:06So it's interesting as someone who's been in the storytelling space my entire career.
- 8:12I'm like, this is great.
- 8:13'cause I just, I love it can go back to what I do.
- 8:15Fast forward and I'm just back to the beginning, which is quite interesting.
- 8:18But but yes, this outcry for compelling storytelling has really been interesting when this is really your career.
- 8:27So talk to us about the CT edit.
- 8:29What exactly is it and how did you start it?
- 8:31I'm sorry.
- 8:32If you are listening in and you hear a puppy Oh yeah.
- 8:34That's hing in the background.
- 8:36It is.
- 8:36It's not one of us.
- 8:37It is not one of the three of us.
- 8:39Welcome.
- 8:39There is, there's actually a puppy here.
- 8:42Okay.
- 8:42Just wanna clarify that.
- 8:43He is sleeping on my lap or trying to, so the Connecticut edit is a platform that my daughter, who is now 18 and I started about five years ago and we had recently moved to Connecticut from New York City and our home on the East end in Bridge Hampton.
- 9:01And when we moved to Connecticut.
- 9:03It was for a variety of reasons, but it happened to be during COVID and I think based on the timeline of when we moved, I think a lot of people presumed it was because of COVID.
- 9:13It actually had nothing to do with that.
- 9:14We had already bought our house.
- 9:16We were about to move, we were not about to move full time because of COVID.
- 9:20We ended up moving full-time and given the environment that we were in, there was such a lack of the ability to A, leave your home.
- 9:31And also we found that when we moved there, she was 15 and, I was in my late forties, there was just, there wasn't really content that was resonating to us about the community that we had just moved to.
- 9:45And as the world started to open up and restrictions were being lifted, we decided to start an Instagram account that just documented our journey as a mother and daughter living in Connecticut.
- 10:00And instead of what I had traditionally done in my career, which is your responsibility and role as an editor in chief, which is to be the authority and give people information about what they presumably want, need, should know based on whatever the platform is.
- 10:20We decided to go at the Connecticut edit in a totally different way, which was just a place of discovery.
- 10:25So we weren't there to tell you what we thought were the best places.
- 10:30We were really there to just discover it through our lens.
- 10:33And it started that way and over time has turned into what it is today, which is in a sense an authority, but it has really turned into its own sort of media platform and we share on it.
- 10:48The panting has stopped Everybody.
- 10:50He has, Toby has fallen asleep.
- 10:53Okay.
- 10:54So it, it's morphed over time into what it is today.
- 10:57But really it started out as a place where Sadie our daughter and I would just share about what it is that we were discovering and loving.
- 11:05And I was a real, and still am a believer that you need a mission statement in anything you do.
- 11:11I think it's really hard to have any sort of business, even though it wasn't intended to be a business when we first started, you need to have some north star and some filter through which you're sharing.
- 11:21And so we decided, we sat down and we certainly had time because we were home and there was just so much time during COVID and we came up with our mission statement, which is to connect, captivate, and celebrate the Connecticut community.
- 11:38Through a lens of social consciousness that's really a piece of it that's really important to us.
- 11:44And then we had fun with it what's our age demo?
- 11:47It was 15 to 50.
- 11:48And what's interesting is come this weekend, it now hits it's 50 cap because on the other half of that lens.
- 11:55And so we're gonna have it to obviously shift that.
- 11:58I'm gonna have to make an addendum to that agreement.
- 12:00It's not coming to an end because up the range Yeah, you're gonna have the range.
- 12:04But but it really stayed, primarily our target audience is primarily female or it started that way.
- 12:11It's actually shifted quite a bit.
- 12:12And we definitely have a larger male audience who is really engaged in a way that I find so interesting.
- 12:22Like men will say, oh, I like, I heard about this through my wife on the Connecticut edit.
- 12:26Yeah.
- 12:26And I'm like, you.
- 12:27Saw it yourself.
- 12:27I know you, like I know you follow us too.
- 12:29That's cool.
- 12:30So yeah, that's how it started.
- 12:32And what's great about it is it's not really finite.
- 12:35I'd come from a background where the brands that I had worked for as much as they were evolving and they were growing and they had multiple assets.
- 12:45It the brand itself was pretty finite.
- 12:47The Vogue brand was pretty finite.
- 12:48The Oprah brand was pretty finite.
- 12:50I had been the editor in chief of Hamptons, which was pretty finite because of geographics or whatever it was.
- 12:56The Connecticut edit's really fun because it's just completely limitless.
- 12:59I wake up one day and decide that we want to cover Litchfield County that we hadn't before.
- 13:05Because we were primarily focused on Fairfield County.
- 13:08There you go.
- 13:08Yeah.
- 13:09And so I just get in my car, I go to my family's house in Kent, and all of a sudden we're covering Litchfield County.
- 13:14So it's nice because it's just this living, breathing.
- 13:19Entity and we get to, just have fun with it.
- 13:22Love it.
- 13:22So it sounds like you started off by just reporting and sharing the places that you were at, but people suddenly craved your opinion.
- 13:30It seems that Yeah.
- 13:30It like a hub.
- 13:31It, to me, it reminds me of a hub where you can go for information, and it, yes, it is from your point of view, but it feels community-based, yeah.
- 13:40Yeah.
- 13:40The goal is really to create a community.
- 13:43I think that there are many outlets where you can get information.
- 13:48I don't think that anyone in 2026, no matter where you live, would claim that there's lack of information.
- 13:56Yeah.
- 13:56Transparency is one thing.
- 13:58We, we don't need to unpack that.
- 14:00I don't think there is a lack of information that's coming at people.
- 14:03Arguably, sometimes I think there's too much.
- 14:05There's too much.
- 14:05Which is why you are a trusted voice because they know that they can go to your page and that they're gonna get, the Samantha Yanks stamp of approval.
- 14:13This place is human A connection.
- 14:15How do you know when there's a story there?
- 14:17First of all, that's really flattering.
- 14:19And when I worked at when I worked at Oprah, we started the O list, and I remember thinking about that.
- 14:28What is it the most iconic thing that had lived before?
- 14:32That was the Good Housekeeping seal of approval.
- 14:34And when we worked with Oprah on creating the O list, it was, what is it that resonated with her?
- 14:42And what worked was that was really powerful.
- 14:45It really transformed people's businesses.
- 14:47We worked with her.
- 14:48We scoured the market.
- 14:49We found items, whatever it was, they were food products, beauty products, books, clothing, anything under the sun.
- 14:58And we would put all of this in front of her and it was magical to see what spoke to her.
- 15:05And when those products did, and we shared them, or she shared them with the universe, it would transform people's businesses.
- 15:14And that stuck with me to this day.
- 15:17It gives me chills when I think back.
- 15:21W how people's lives were transformed by that.
- 15:25And the way that stuck with me, if we can do a tiny piece of that with the Connecticut edit, that is, we were talking before about North Stars, that is my North star, right?
- 15:35To be able to share about local businesses, founders, creators, what they're doing for our Connecticut community, share that with on our platform and see the way that transforms not only their business, but the opportunity that it gives people to be exposed to things that they weren't before.
- 15:59I hope that we can be the platform for that.
- 16:02How we decide what goes on that platform, it will always go back to being an editor.
- 16:08For me, that is what I was taught.
- 16:11That is what is ingrained in me, is to have.
- 16:15Discernment to have experience, to have expertise in the area that we talk about.
- 16:22I think you can clearly see there are areas that we're super passionate about that we go deep on, and there are areas that I just won't touch because I don't know enough about them.
- 16:33What comes with having a platform like this and I think it's a great conversation, is a responsibility, right?
- 16:40I am not here to be an expert.
- 16:43We are here really to just share what it is that we love, what resonates with us and what we think as we have continued to build this community, listen to it, engage with it, be present with it, is to understand what our community wants and to live and breathe that with them.
- 17:00We are not an authority on the state of Connecticut.
- 17:07Well said.
- 17:07Also, you're new here.
- 17:08Five years in.
- 17:09Five years in, so it's very interesting.
- 17:11Like a lot of people, like there's that, there's like our mic drop moment, right?
- 17:15We are not, I have been coming to the state of Connecticut.
- 17:18My family has had, which we just recently sold a house in Kent for 37 years in Litchfield County.
- 17:25So I have been coming to the state of Connecticut for many years since I was a child.
- 17:29But my husband, our daughter and I, and now our two dogs have only lived in Connecticut for five years.
- 17:36I'm a very.
- 17:37Like lighthearted person.
- 17:38Yes.
- 17:39At the end of the day course, people are like, oh my God it's so surprising that you've only lived here for five years.
- 17:43I'm like, I'm not claiming otherwise.
- 17:45I've only lived here for five years.
- 17:47You could like, everything's public.
- 17:49When we bought our house yeah.
- 17:50We've lived here for five years, so what we're sharing is an edit of what we love.
- 17:56Yeah.
- 17:57And when that resonates with people, that's great.
- 18:00And when it doesn't, that's totally fine too.
- 18:02Yeah.
- 18:03Have you ever shared something you didn't like?
- 18:05Or is this a place for you to share the things you do, like for that same North Star reason that you would never Yeah.
- 18:12Question.
- 18:12Like how you wanna help businesses?
- 18:13Great question.
- 18:13But you would never wanna pull one down.
- 18:15Never.
- 18:16Yes.
- 18:16Never.
- 18:17It's hard.
- 18:17So I think it depends on the time that you grow up, that you grew up with social media.
- 18:22Yeah.
- 18:22I was a very early adopter of Instagram and Twitter now X and a number of other platforms.
- 18:31And what happened when a lot of them launched was there was a piece of it that was super overwhelming but there was also a piece of it that was really positive and exciting.
- 18:44And I always take that with me, which is, these are really platforms in my opinion.
- 18:50And again, all of this is what I mean, I'm lucky enough to be here today just to give my opinion is.
- 18:56That these should be places of positivity for sure.
- 18:58A at the end of the day, that's just who I am as a person, right?
- 19:02I'm not, I'm just not here to spread negativity.
- 19:05I'm here to share what I like and what I love.
- 19:08And I think that makes us all better, healthier people.
- 19:11But we do not use our platform at all for anything negative to share about what we don't like to give criticism.
- 19:19It is really a place where we share what we love and I delete any comments that are negative.
- 19:26I've never turned off the comments because that's not I don't think it's the type of community that we've created.
- 19:32We don't find a lot of negativity sense, right?
- 19:35But if I see a comment that I don't like, or I think just doesn't fit the universe that we're creating, I'll delete it.
- 19:41Without without.
- 19:43Any reservation?
- 19:44No.
- 19:45I think it's just a place that we like to share what we're seeing and what we're enjoying and what we're loving.
- 19:50And quite frankly, the point of it is because we hope that you do too.
- 19:54And if you do, great.
- 19:57And I don't think it's our role at all to, to be discerning in a negative way.
- 20:02I think there are enough people and enough places, sadly, that do that.
- 20:07So I think our role is to be a voice of positivity.
- 20:10You're highlighting and de but it doesn't need, it doesn't mean that you need to put a negative spotlight on anything.
- 20:15And I think sometimes there is pressure, as anybody with a platform where you're giving your opinion on something people wanna hear, like the truth.
- 20:25And it's you're highlighting the truth.
- 20:27Yes.
- 20:27But you don't need to.
- 20:29Wallow in any sort of negativity.
- 20:31Yeah.
- 20:31And I think that I completely agree with that.
- 20:33And I think that when you're building this sort of community, you're the anchor of that community, and that's what you wanna build.
- 20:39You wanna build a brand and a community with positivity.
- 20:43We're here to support other companies and other brands, and other local businesses, and we're not here to bring any sort of negative light.
- 20:52And obviously people could have a bad experience somewhere, but that's not what this place is for, totally.
- 20:57And I think the word that you used is perfect.
- 20:59I think it's about highlighting, yes.
- 21:01Know, highlighted.
- 21:01We're not saying this is the best and all be all right, and all be all right.
- 21:06It's one that we've, it's a market that we've been to that we love, and we love the way that they have curated the provisions here.
- 21:13And we love the experience that you.
- 21:15Are going to have here.
- 21:16That doesn't mean you're not going to have that at other places.
- 21:20And so we try to balance roundups of places that we love and make the content continually interesting and intriguing while sharing what's new, what's next, what's noteworthy?
- 21:34The thing about.
- 21:35Being an editor historically in my career is, what I do know is that people want to be in the know, right?
- 21:43People want to feel that you are a source of exclusive information to them, that they can come to the Connecticut edit and they're going to find out something that's edited through a lens that feels VIP and exclusive to them, but is also really community centric.
- 22:02At the end of the day, we are not, I don't love the word gatekeepers, just I feel like it's getting a little abused, but we're the opposite of gatekeepers.
- 22:11We're just trying to tell the story through a lens that feels special to us.
- 22:18Yeah.
- 22:19And it, what has happened with it is that it turns out that's a lens that other people want to, and it's great when you see something that you've created.
- 22:31Listen, I'm not gonna compare the Connecticut edit to my daughter and to, to being a mom.
- 22:35But it's great when like children, they like, they evolve, right?
- 22:40There's something that we are giving to our audience and they are growing with it, with you, right?
- 22:45Yeah.
- 22:46And that is super special.
- 22:47That's really cool.
- 22:48And now you have your own Yeah.
- 22:50CT edit community.
- 22:51Yeah.
- 22:51When I think about gatekeeping, I often wonder like why people do it, because sometimes I think there's a lot of fear involved and if I share with somebody, then they're gonna do better than me.
- 23:00Or I wanna keep this special just for myself.
- 23:03Sometimes I think that's.
- 23:05The antidote to not being a part of a community.
- 23:08Yeah.
- 23:08And I think when you really think about what community is it, you have to share either through you have a mom community, so you're sharing through being a mom or you have an exercise community or just all these different experiences.
- 23:21Yeah.
- 23:21So you're experiencing all these different businesses and places with your daughter.
- 23:25And you've built a community.
- 23:27Yeah, in doing so, and I think that those experiences are, you can read about a workout class or you can read about a mom group, or you can read about a landscaper or you can read about dog training.
- 23:42And there's nothing, I think seeing it brought to life through someone you trust.
- 23:48So hopefully we are a place that is trustworthy to people and they see the experiences that we're having and that connects with them.
- 23:58People like to see my morning making a breakfast bowl.
- 24:01How I'm doing that with two dogs.
- 24:04It's not really edited.
- 24:05It's pretty, there's a lot of day in our lives weaved in to the content that we are putting out because it's all kind of learned experience.
- 24:16The point is it was not strategic in the beginning.
- 24:20And I think it's become.
- 24:22If I were to go to sell the business and I looked at what works and what doesn't work strategically, what works is weaving in our day-to-day life for some level of comfort and community and trust with us delivering information to people that, that, like this mother and daughter, we're like, we're not lying to you.
- 24:45We're here.
- 24:46We've been to that class, we've been to that farmer's market.
- 24:49We have been to that restaurant.
- 24:51Here's what our experience is and believe us.
- 24:53We're not gonna share about something that we don't like.
- 24:55That's, that was gonna be my question is you probably edit out, you don't necessarily.
- 25:00Bring any sort of negativity to something, but then it's just not featured.
- 25:04We just don't feature.
- 25:04Exactly.
- 25:05You bring to 25 others.
- 25:06Exactly.
- 25:07A hundred percent.
- 25:08And then I'm showing you this one.
- 25:10Yes.
- 25:10So go there.
- 25:11You don't even need to say it anymore that you've been to 25 others.
- 25:13But it's the same thing as so part of being an editor is what comes with the territory, is that you're influencing people.
- 25:20It was not, when we became editors, back in the day, influencers didn't exist.
- 25:25Did not exist.
- 25:26So you were like in Yes.
- 25:27None of it existed.
- 25:29Existed.
- 25:29It was just part of your job.
- 25:30Was to influence the way that people think.
- 25:32You went into the market, whether it was fashion or it was culinary, or it was travel, or it was auto or whatever the topic was.
- 25:39Your job was to go out into the market, scour that information, and come back with a discerning opinion which was aligned with that brand and you told that story.
- 25:50So because that's part of the DNA of what I've like historically done in my career.
- 25:56It's interesting watching the creation of influencers who by and large have made the decision that they are the authorities, they are the brand.
- 26:07It's a very ballsy move.
- 26:09I don't disrespect it, I find it intriguing.
- 26:12I find it interesting.
- 26:15I have a lot of respect for it because it takes a lot of for all my Jewish girls in the audience, it takes a lot of chutzpah to to say that we, that's not really our approach.
- 26:28But what I do know is that what comes with the territory of what we do is that we are influencing decisions that people are making.
- 26:34And I take that responsibility and Sadie takes that responsibility very seriously.
- 26:40And so like back to what we were talking about in terms of going to the 25 different places.
- 26:47Yes.
- 26:47We, we go to 25 different places.
- 26:49We share maybe about two, we try a hundred different products and we share about a few and.
- 26:57I am sure a lot of your audience are women who, or, and men who have brand partnerships or who do things like that or are maybe interested in that space.
- 27:07And so I did this recent partnership with Jones Road, which is Bobby Brown's beauty brand.
- 27:13And we were talking about what that content creation would look like.
- 27:18And I said, guys, I don't need to make any of this up.
- 27:21Believe me, I'm turning 50.
- 27:22I have tried every foundation.
- 27:25Like I am your test market.
- 27:26I am your target demo.
- 27:28If I have had the lived experience that sadly I've tried 150 foundations.
- 27:33If I tell you is the one promise you that this is the foundation I use, this is the foundation I use.
- 27:39Like I'm not a good liar by the way.
- 27:41I have a total poker face.
- 27:43I am not convincing about something that I don't believe in.
- 27:47And.
- 27:48If I'm telling you I use, it's called what the foundation, which by the way, love Bobby.
- 27:52Like genius.
- 27:53I saw a video, you putting it Really?
- 27:55You said that I'm working with them and I have been testing their things along the way and I am like, this is amazing.
- 28:02It's if I'm telling you that what the foundation is the foundation I use.
- 28:06Believe me.
- 28:06So good.
- 28:06I have lived through enough foundations that don't work over the years.
- 28:11And so I think that it's just interesting.
- 28:15It's all like very fluid.
- 28:16What all seems to be coming together now with influencers and content creators and authenticity, which you and I spoke about before we had this conversation.
- 28:26Authenticity also comes with experience.
- 28:29You can't really have an authentic voice and be compelling and share what you love and what you do if you don't have a fair amount.
- 28:37A fair amount, yeah.
- 28:38Of experience having done it.
- 28:40So I think we try to create a place where what we're sharing also comes with.
- 28:46A fair amount of experience.
- 28:47I'm very curious about the difference though, because now you're doing this for yourself, right?
- 28:53Yeah.
- 28:53So you are the brand, you are the curator, and it's from your lens and your point of view.
- 28:59When you were doing this for other magazines, did you have to go in it with the eye of the brand?
- 29:05Oh yes.
- 29:05That's your job.
- 29:06It's, that's what I got paid to.
- 29:08Yeah.
- 29:08So you had to, so you had to remove your own personal style.
- 29:09Your own personal opinion.
- 29:10So you almost would take over this DNA of the brand and say, would Vogue like this?
- 29:16Yes.
- 29:16Would Oprah, would this, would Oprah like this, would this resonate with Oprah's consumer?
- 29:22Is this the Vogue brand and is the Vogue consumer going to connect with this edit or this product, or this moment, or this experience?
- 29:33And when you become.
- 29:35Really good at doing that.
- 29:37It's very chameleon like when I left from when I left Vogue to go to Oprah, it was very jarring for a lot of people.
- 29:45I left when Vogue was at, a plus height.
- 29:49Height of the height 2000, height of the game.
- 29:51I'd been there for about three and a half years.
- 29:56I had a really incredible run.
- 29:58I was American Vogue's first fine jewelry and watch editor.
- 30:02It was incredible.
- 30:03It was amazing.
- 30:04But when I left to go to Oprah, I think the jarring moment was a little bit like, what's the why?
- 30:11Yeah.
- 30:11What, it just was not really what people did.
- 30:15And the why was because I wasn't really comfortable with the Vogue story.
- 30:20It's not that the Vogue story isn't important I just didn't think I was the right person to tell that story.
- 30:27And I think what you learn in your career over time, hopefully, or I have, is you want a lot of boxes to be checked.
- 30:37And of course, if you're working, one of those things is financial.
- 30:42Most people are not working out of the goodness of their heart, right?
- 30:46So there's the financial box that you have to tick.
- 30:49Then there's the enjoyment level, right?
- 30:54Compass, are you passionate?
- 30:55Are you, do you enjoy connecting what it is that you're tasked to do?
- 30:59Because again, jobs are roles.
- 31:02You're fulfilling a task when you are an employee.
- 31:06And then I think, which I've learned over time is the comfort piece.
- 31:11Are you enjoying it?
- 31:12And are you good at it?
- 31:13And do you feel like you self when you're doing it?
- 31:16And I was never really.
- 31:18I was working at Vogue was a win, and it was an incredible experience.
- 31:25And to say that Anna Wintour was my first boss, who I really engaged with, it wasn't like I was, not fully living.
- 31:33And having that experience was incredible.
- 31:36But the, that level of fashion I was never really comfortable with.
- 31:41What I learned from that experience was that I could be in any room, I would walk into Anna's office and feel totally comfortable.
- 31:50And I was in my early twenties.
- 31:52And so that piece of what I learned there, I was like, I learned that, that was like what my takeaway was supposed to be, right?
- 32:00I can be confident, I can be in a corporate environment, I can be in front of people who are much more seasoned and experienced and knowledgeable than me, and I can hold my own.
- 32:12How would you hold your own in that environment?
- 32:14What would be like a tool that you would give somebody to do to really do your homework and to not, which, whoever's listening, I'm probably not doing a very good job at my own lesson.
- 32:30But not overshare, you don't need to always speak.
- 32:33Listening is really powerful.
- 32:35And absorbing from people who are more experienced than you and taking a back seat and watching learning and learning is really powerful.
- 32:45And Vogue really gave me that experience because it was not a chatterbox environment.
- 32:51You were there to fulfill a role and to fill it in a very efficient, mature, beyond your years way.
- 33:01Everybody knew their place and it was not unhealthy.
- 33:05There was a hierarchy.
- 33:07Yeah.
- 33:07And that was a great lesson.
- 33:11Really early on in my career.
- 33:13I mean it again, it was my first job.
- 33:16And so part of what being in front of Anna taught me was the duality of, you need to know your place and you need to listen, and you need to learn, but you also can't hold your own if you're not an authority.
- 33:32And to become an authority, you have to educate yourself about what it is that you're doing.
- 33:37I see now with my 18-year-old daughter, that same sensibility in her where she.
- 33:48Tries to know what it is that she's talking about.
- 33:51Like she doesn't talk for the sake of talking.
- 33:54Both my husband and I are actually like that as well.
- 33:56So I think there is a difference between a work environment, which has a social component to it and Vogue did.
- 34:04We are all still friends.
- 34:05It was super fun.
- 34:07It was a crazy time.
- 34:09We were all just babies, like living this insane life in a very high profile world.
- 34:17But we were all very career driven.
- 34:20We were all very serious about what we were doing.
- 34:22And if I look now at the group of women and men who I worked with, who were my peers at the time, there is not a single one.
- 34:32I kid you not, who is not killing it right now.
- 34:35Like that type of learning ground is invaluable.
- 34:40It's interesting, I'm relating to this not in any way the same level, but being an influencer and where you have these coworkers, I call them because they're peers in the same space as you, and it is a very cutthroat environment.
- 34:55Yes.
- 34:55Everybody is out for themselves.
- 34:57Yeah.
- 34:57You're doing the same things as other people.
- 34:59Yeah.
- 34:59You're getting cast in campaigns and you're competitive, and I would say without a doubt, the rule is that everybody keeps a lot of information close to their vest and it's something that's sometimes has bothered me, but it's also sometimes what's necessary to do to protect your own career.
- 35:18And so it's interesting to hear you.
- 35:21As much as I love to share you, you do sometimes have to hold, right?
- 35:27Yeah.
- 35:27At the same time.
- 35:28Yeah.
- 35:29Information.
- 35:30Is currency.
- 35:31At the end of the day.
- 35:32And so having a career and now a platform that's based really on the exchange of information, that's what's valuable to people.
- 35:43And so when you're working in a world where today it's influencers and content creators and or really any environment, there has to be a healthy exchange of information.
- 35:58There has to be collaboration because workplaces don't function without collaboration.
- 36:04Like none of us are an island unto ourself and being in corporate structures for many years.
- 36:12I learned that all too well, and you have to be able to lean on other people who are around you.
- 36:18You have to have some level of a support system.
- 36:21And that's what makes corporate environments really great.
- 36:23And I would never, and I hope that our daughter works in one before she does whatever it is she plans on doing.
- 36:30Because I think you learn the importance of the fact that you're a unit.
- 36:35Great things are not created by one person.
- 36:39And what concerns me about the kind of influencer community and the content creator community is that there isn't a lot of support.
- 36:46There's not, for all of you, you're really.
- 36:49Tasked with being almost an island onto yourself, delivering content either to a brand or to a community of people who are buying products or who, want a lens into your universe.
- 37:02And that can be really isolating.
- 37:04It is, and that concerns me, I think, particularly for women, because their collaboration is just so utterly essential for greatness.
- 37:16You are, it just is.
- 37:16You're speaking my language.
- 37:17I had been a content creator by myself, in this world f feeling like someone alone on an island.
- 37:23Yeah.
- 37:24And.
- 37:24I craved the connection and the community piece so much that it was such a huge part of starting this podcast.
- 37:31Yeah.
- 37:31With a co-host.
- 37:32Because I no longer wanted to be the lone girl on an island by myself.
- 37:37I wanted the community piece, I wanted the connection.
- 37:40And I do think that as a woman, it's interesting to hear you say that it's not, it's vital to survival.
- 37:47Totally vital.
- 37:48It really is.
- 37:49It's vital to have those to have connection, to have community, to have conversations like these, really at the end of the day, that's where great ideas come from.
- 37:58It sparks something, it sparks an idea.
- 38:01It inspires you to collaborate together, whatever it is to function in isolation is really dangerous.
- 38:10I think for people.
- 38:11So I love anything that brings people together.
- 38:16Together.
- 38:17And weather.
- 38:18Whether that is on a podcast or whether that's connecting to people through a YouTube channel, or whether that is even through, platforms like Instagram or TikTok or Snapchat or whatever it is as long as it remains healthy and the goal is good I think that connection is really vital.
- 38:39And I think a lot of young people are really missing the memo on the importance of being in a corporate structure.
- 38:46And also I think entrepreneurship now that I'm in this space, in the latter hopefully this isn't my latter chapter ladies, but my, my, you're just getting started here.
- 38:54Yeah.
- 38:54Just getting started.
- 38:56But in this chapter.
- 38:58Is entrepreneurship is really over glamorized.
- 39:01I have to be honest I would a hundred percent agree with you.
- 39:04Really?
- 39:04And I was on this call a friend of mine and I are both taking part in a founder series through an organization called Startup Westport to talk to young individuals about what it means to become a founder.
- 39:18It's really interesting.
- 39:20We're kicking off the inaugural one and I'm really honored to be a part of that.
- 39:25And the brainstorm conversation last night was about entrepreneurship and how it is becoming too rapidly, I think like the chosen career path.
- 39:38It's the goal.
- 39:38It's what everybody wants to do.
- 39:39It's crazy.
- 39:40People need to hear the cold hard truth about it.
- 39:43Yeah.
- 39:43It's crazy.
- 39:43You get the last cut.
- 39:45Like my husband is a business owner.
- 39:48He has his is a little different than your situation'cause he has partners in, during COV, the employees had to get paid, the building needs to get paid.
- 39:59He gets the last cut.
- 40:00Yep.
- 40:01Which is nothing.
- 40:02There, there is a lot to be said about you.
- 40:04It is an evil what you kill business.
- 40:06Yes.
- 40:06Lifting the curtain behind that.
- 40:08I, unfortunately sometimes with entrepreneurship you exchange your time for money in some certain, some in some cases, you don't get a retirement plan.
- 40:17Nope.
- 40:17You don't get all these things and you also don't always get a mentor or to learn from somebody or to watch somebody or to absorb from somebody.
- 40:26Like you're explaining to us what you really, you absorbed so many behaviors.
- 40:31Working for Anna Wintour, and I'm sure some of it was just innately who you are.
- 40:35It sounds like that's who your daughter is too.
- 40:37But you got to observe these behaviors it's interesting and I've, I have to come full circle to the start of this conversation, I have been reflecting a lot and when I left Vogue and I went to work for Oprah Winfrey at the time, I think I was not mature enough in some ways to understand the gift.
- 40:57That is Oprah.
- 40:58She's very regimented.
- 41:00She is a highly focused, routine driven person.
- 41:09And I was watching a video that she did the other day.
- 41:12She's turning 72.
- 41:13It's amazing about weightlifting and I was just thinking, wow, I wish I appreciated working for her more at the time.
- 41:22She is pretty inflexible.
- 41:24And that is a great lesson to learn in life as well.
- 41:30There were so many takeaways that I think make me more resilient and determined as an entrepreneur today that I can pretty safely say I would not have those skillsets if I didn't work for people who were much more powerful, equipped, knowledgeable than I am.
- 41:54You have to have.
- 41:56Things that you can take away from work to be able to tinker and build yourself.
- 42:02I'm not saying that it can't be done right when you go through, you're both too young, but I have now been through it.
- 42:09When you go through the process of your child applying to college, you hear these stories right about, and this kid Bill built a, you know he is, yeah, he is like curing this and this one built a gazillion dollar business.
- 42:21Okay.
- 42:22Those are one-offs, my friend.
- 42:23Yeah.
- 42:23If anyone is watching my face on video or listening to my voice, those are one-offs.
- 42:29Entrepreneurship is brutal.
- 42:31It is wonderfully rewarding, but it is very challenging the vast majority of the time.
- 42:39The wins are wins that you, yourself feel, and they're glimmers.
- 42:45And they're fleeting.
- 42:47And you have to want to create what it is that you're creating.
- 42:51I believe, and I have an enormous respect actually for influencers and creators, because those are wins.
- 42:56They only feel themselves.
- 42:57You actually don't have a huge community who's cheering for you.
- 43:00No.
- 43:00You're just like I got that brand deal.
- 43:02Yes.
- 43:03It's okay, rain until the next one.
- 43:04Sometimes you have an audience that's like.
- 43:06Not cheer for, they're not even sure.
- 43:07They're like, oh, it's an ad.
- 43:08Totally.
- 43:09And you're like, that's a win for me.
- 43:10That's a win.
- 43:10It's a win that this brand wanted to work with me.
- 43:12Your business is personal.
- 43:13Yeah.
- 43:13It's very personal.
- 43:14It's something that you can't really celebrate.
- 43:16No.
- 43:17Because that's not right.
- 43:18Or who do you, that's not the, celebrate that with like friend.
- 43:21I text my husband and I say, yay, I got it.
- 43:23This is a win for our family.
- 43:25This is a brand campaign, but it's not something that you can really celebrate.
- 43:29And then to your point, when then your audience sees that it's a brand deal, they get, sometimes they get annoyed and you're like, so it is, it's a very interesting, weird, isolating thing.
- 43:41And I think that the one word that you said, which I think is really important is mentorship.
- 43:46I am a huge believer in being a mentor to young women and also being very appreciative to my mentors where you came from.
- 43:57It is undeniable that you need people who are teaching you, who are allowing you to learn from them.
- 44:07And also mentorship it's a two-way street, right?
- 44:11There are girls who very kindly say that I'm their mentor and I will always say to them that I'm learning from them as much as, yeah, you're doing this with your daughter who's 18.
- 44:20Totally.
- 44:21And whether it's employees or it's interns or it's people in our orbit.
- 44:27Continual conversation and communication is really key.
- 44:31That's what mentorship really, I think is more about are you there for the long term?
- 44:36Are you there to see someone through a lot of seasons of personal and professional growth?
- 44:43And I look back on the people who were there for me to allow me to grow in the ways that I have and lean into that.
- 44:52And I think it's our responsibility to pass that on.
- 44:55And I think those are very hard things to find in isolation.
- 44:59And that is, that's saddening to me really because I did not set out to have such a female focused career at all.
- 45:10I think anyone who knows me really well, almost kind of scoffs and laughs about it.
- 45:16I am not a girl's girl.
- 45:17I really am not, I'm not a joiner.
- 45:19I was not in a sorority like my daughter's in a sorority.
- 45:22It makes me laugh.
- 45:23She has this piece of her that I don't have in me.
- 45:25I don't like a workout class.
- 45:26My trainer tells me that I'm scared.
- 45:29I do not like large groups of women.
- 45:31I don't.
- 45:32I So when you say you're not a girl's girl, what does that mean to you?
- 45:35You don't like being in groups of large women?
- 45:37I just don't because Christina and I have a different definition of what we, okay.
- 45:41Tell me.
- 45:42I've been talking so much.
- 45:43You tell me about it, we said a girl's girl is very subjective and I think that it's, I think that there are, I think it's also being thrown around.
- 45:50It was like one of those other things where you say it's being thrown around too much.
- 45:53I think it gets thrown around and people misuse it, or maybe we just all don't agree on what the definition is.
- 46:00Exactly.
- 46:00What are your definitions?
- 46:02When I think of a girl's girl, I think of more the intention behind the behavior.
- 46:05Yes.
- 46:06Okay.
- 46:06So if somebody is doing something with the intention to exclude or to withhold information so they can better themselves and not help another, and they're not a girl's girl, they're not a girl's girl.
- 46:17In my, when I think of like a girl's girl, it's somebody that wants to help another woman.
- 46:22Who's, she's confident enough that she's okay, that she can share.
- 46:25Yeah.
- 46:26For me personally, that's my.
- 46:29Interpretation of it.
- 46:30Not somebody who wants to be around group of women or would prefer the company of men.
- 46:35Or is like an isolated person.
- 46:37'Cause I sometimes think I'm that person too, but I think at my core I am.
- 46:42Girl's, girl.
- 46:42And I would think that's definition would be too, we thought it was more coming from a place of support, right?
- 46:48You would do something without having it better you.
- 46:51Oh, yes.
- 46:51And I just meant it more like you're not, you're, I, no, I just, I don't like being around.
- 46:57I agree with you.
- 46:58I lots of girly girls.
- 46:59Like I'm not super, look at me, I'm in like head to toe charcoal gray with a black lab sitting on my lap.
- 47:04Yeah.
- 47:04Like I am.
- 47:05But I love all this pink, by the way.
- 47:08This is like really like this, like super, pretty and feminine.
- 47:11You're a vibe.
- 47:12I also am not, we are the feminine, girly girls vibe, your're, girly girl vibe.
- 47:17No I think I'm just not I'm not frilly and.
- 47:21I'm not silly, and I don't think I'm cutesy.
- 47:25And maybe it's an old interpretation of girls, girl in that way.
- 47:28Yeah.
- 47:28I don't love like Lauren.
- 47:30You're not a girly girl.
- 47:31I'm not a girly girl.
- 47:32I think that's what, okay.
- 47:32That's what it's, that's okay.
- 47:34Not a girly girl.
- 47:34Girl.
- 47:34A girl.
- 47:35I think girl.
- 47:35Girl.
- 47:35A girl's girl.
- 47:35Girl.
- 47:36But a girl's girl.
- 47:36I hope I am.
- 47:37Yeah.
- 47:38No.
- 47:38I hope I'm a girl's girl.
- 47:39I hope I am.
- 47:40Am someone who, shares information and likes to support others.
- 47:45I just may not do it with lace and pearls and Bose.
- 47:48Got it.
- 47:50I love it.
- 47:50Okay.
- 47:50We'll leave the love Shq, fancy vibes at the curb.
- 47:54Although I very, I know Rebecca very well, who started Love Shack fans.
- 47:58Love her.
- 47:58Props to you girl.
- 47:59I love her.
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- 48:48So you, what is something just that you are naturally drawn to?
- 48:52You said that you were worked in jewelry, you were jewelry editor.
- 48:55If you had to pick out one thing that you could talk all day about whether it's like a person, a place, like a thing, like what would you be drawn to immediately?
- 49:02Jewelry.
- 49:03Love it.
- 49:04Ooh, jewelry.
- 49:05Watches Fine jewelry.
- 49:06Yes.
- 49:06Gold.
- 49:07Tell us.
- 49:07I feel like I do talk about jewelry all day.
- 49:09So you are an expert.
- 49:12I, you know what I could actually say, I have the shops.
- 49:13You can actually say name to be.
- 49:14I do.
- 49:15I am actually an expert.
- 49:16Yes.
- 49:16I was a fine jewelry and watch editor, so I love jewelry.
- 49:20I love it for a lot of reasons.
- 49:22I love it because the essence of jewelry really is storytelling.
- 49:26It really is.
- 49:27I have yet to meet a person who.
- 49:31Own something that they've inherited or something that they're lusting after that they buy or something that's been purchased for them that doesn't have a story attached to it.
- 49:41There are very few things that you can say that about, right?
- 49:44I agree.
- 49:44Most people aren't like, oh, in my car, right?
- 49:46I tell you right about when I went to the dealership.
- 49:49And there's something about, because it's not a necessity, right?
- 49:52It's something that's very personal.
- 49:54It's very personal, and it usually carries a lot of value and significance.
- 49:58So I also love art, but I am, no, I am just not an expert in art the way that I am with jewelry.
- 50:06So I love the storytelling part of it, and I love the fact that if you are with somebody it always sparks some sort of conversation.
- 50:19And the jewelry that I'm wear mostly today is, girls, I can't believe I keep going back to this, but is female-centric.
- 50:27So everything that I wear is either by a female jewelry designer.
- 50:32All four of my necklaces that I'm wearing today are four different female jewelry designers.
- 50:37Or a piece that's been passed on to me from my mother, my grandmother, like my wedding band today was my grandmother's that I had reset by a different female jewelry designer in Westport.
- 50:47And then of course, my love, of course, pieces that my husband has bought for me.
- 50:51But but I love talking about jewelry because I think it carries weight and significance and value.
- 50:58There are pieces that you can pass on.
- 51:01My daughter's already claimed things, which she's very lucky, sweetheart.
- 51:04'cause she's an only child she gets at all.
- 51:06But I think I've still fighting there.
- 51:07I think I've pa as much as I have my dog babies, yeah.
- 51:10I don't think they're inheriting jewelry.
- 51:11So yeah, jewelry is just, it's always been this topic.
- 51:15And when I was working at Vogue they were called categories.
- 51:19So I was an accessories editor and I was a shoe editor and a bag editor.
- 51:24And it was just like the dream, right?
- 51:26Those were the jobs that everybody.
- 51:28The movies.
- 51:28The movies.
- 51:29Everybody wanted the movies.
- 51:30Yeah.
- 51:30Movies.
- 51:30You go into the vo closet and people just couldn't believe it was my job.
- 51:33It's real.
- 51:34I couldn't believe it was my job.
- 51:35Totally.
- 51:36And I've always had more of a business centric mind.
- 51:40I, I think and we were looking at ad pages in the magazine and one of the categories that really wasn't getting enough attention, but we knew that there was a large opportunity for, was find jewelry and watches.
- 51:56And I worked with a a sales person at the time.
- 52:00We became a team and.
- 52:03I was going into unchartered territory, but as we were pulling four different photo shoots, you'd walk into Anna Winter's office and present to her what the photo shoot was going to look like.
- 52:14And I would just slowly start pulling jewelry because nobody else was doing it.
- 52:18It just, again, it would, it went back to a time where it was very finite what you took care of.
- 52:24There was a shoe editor, there was a bag editor.
- 52:26I, at one point was a hosiery, sunglass Wow.
- 52:30And hat editor.
- 52:31That was all that I could pull for photo shoots.
- 52:34And nobody was really pulling jewelry, so jewelry hat, it just didn't have someone, DNA who was dedicated to it.
- 52:44And as with everything.
- 52:47Trends come and go.
- 52:48Jewelry was beco.
- 52:50You were seeing more of it on the runway.
- 52:52People were talking about it more, and it wasn't like, it wasn't like we invented jewelry.
- 52:57I it by any means.
- 52:58I'm not suggesting that, but it was becoming more, no pun intended in vogue in terms of the way it was being showed.
- 53:06With clothing and in photo shoots.
- 53:08And so I would slowly start bringing jewelry into Anna's office with everything else I was supposed to bring in.
- 53:16And she is a smart woman.
- 53:18And she noticed, and I had a lot of stylists in my corner, grace Coddington, Camilla Nickerson, Phyllis Ponick especially.
- 53:28And we were working on a photo shoot with Christy Turlington.
- 53:31It's a very famous image.
- 53:32Now it's Christy Turlington in a back bend, in a yoga pose on the cover of Vogue.
- 53:37And she has these dripping moonstone and diamond necklaces.
- 53:41I pulled those for the photo shoot and some other really special moments.
- 53:46And when that image was selected as the cover of Vogue, it was Jarringly different.
- 53:52Anything else from her position to her really clean face of makeup to really talking about, friends, this was before wellness was like a really a word in anyone's vernacular, but how important wellness and meditation was to Christie.
- 54:07And Christie was becoming a personality.
- 54:09The whole environment was changing, and Jang and these dripping necklaces were on the cover of Vogue, and something shifted, something was happening, and it did not take much convincing, certainly on my part, but the sales team very smart, always strategic.
- 54:26And the publisher of Vogue at the time said, we need an editor who's dedicated to that.
- 54:30Just that.
- 54:30And I just raised my hand and said that, I don't even think I had to raise my hand.
- 54:34Yeah.
- 54:34I think Anna very much was like Samantha's going, pulled it.
- 54:36Yeah.
- 54:37Going to do this.
- 54:38Yes.
- 54:38I don't think it was much of a conversation if I remember it, and I loved it.
- 54:42I loved it and I learned so much.
- 54:44And on top of all of that knowledge about, working with all these design houses and traveling to Milan and Paris and all of that, I then got this whole other experience of going to Switzerland and going to Italy and, learning about gold and working with all of these amazing fine jewelry houses, and I just loved it so much that, listen to the way that I'm talking about it.
- 55:06Yeah, you'd think I'm like so yes, jewelry is my topic.
- 55:09I will talk about it.
- 55:10I love that.
- 55:11Forever and ever.
- 55:12Are any of your designers local?
- 55:13All of them.
- 55:14They're all local, yeah.
- 55:15Can you share?
- 55:15All right.
- 55:16Connecticut ladies.
- 55:17So from top to bottom, the top necklace is, my friend Jen Lau, her jewelry her company is called Genevieve Lau.
- 55:26The second one is from Serpentine Gallery in Greenwich.
- 55:31Ally is the founder of that.
- 55:33And this is a necklace that Ally worked with my husband on for me, for I, I love that.
- 55:37That's like the beautiful piece to West.
- 55:38Yeah, I love that.
- 55:39I love those Beautiful ally.
- 55:41She's at Serpentine, beautiful Greenwich.
- 55:43And by the way, if you have a passion for jewelry and beautiful things, she has this like townhouse salon suite.
- 55:50It's one of the most beautiful places ever.
- 55:53Speaking of other women, my friend Eleanor Benko, you know I do, yeah.
- 55:56Introduced Allie and I, so there's that second female Connecticut designer.
- 56:01Third is a designer named Orlie Marcel, who is based in Colorado.
- 56:07But I met her through a trunk show at Nikki Glaser's property in Norwalk Graybar.
- 56:14She was doing a trunk show and I just fell in love with her ethos and aesthetic.
- 56:18So it was procured in Connecticut.
- 56:21And then the last one is Savannah Freakin who again, sorry, is not based in Connecticut, but I met at the Mayflower Inn in Connecticut which is so fun.
- 56:33And she was doing a trunk show there.
- 56:36And yeah, so all of all four of the necklaces that I wear and all those beautiful stories that go along with them, I love them.
- 56:42Yeah.
- 56:42Are all Connecticut Center all women, and.
- 56:46You know what's interest really?
- 56:46You so drawn to a story.
- 56:48Yeah, I am.
- 56:49I am.
- 56:49I love a story and it's you're almost like editing your own little art collection on your body.
- 56:54I think that's why jewelry is so amazing and i'm actually like I forgot all my rings today and I was sitting here before we were even on this tangent of jewelry and I was like, I feel naked without my, yeah.
- 57:05I have nothing on, and I feel so weird.
- 57:07I know.
- 57:08I, I sleep in my jewelry.
- 57:09Yeah.
- 57:09I really, yeah.
- 57:10I love it.
- 57:11And I love so many of, by the way, being a jewelry designer, no joke.
- 57:16That is a very respectable business.
- 57:19And I love meeting all of the designers who are creating, particularly the women because they.
- 57:27Are, they're there to tell stories too.
- 57:30And I love that.
- 57:31I love it.
- 57:32I make jewelry just for fun.
- 57:34I know.
- 57:34And anytime anybody's I give them as gifts to my friends.
- 57:37Yeah.
- 57:37Because it's like an escape for me.
- 57:39I like make jewelry, I play with it.
- 57:41I like make something to match my outfit.
- 57:42But anytime any of my friends are like, oh, I'm wearing this bracelet that you made me.
- 57:46No.
- 57:47I'm like, oh my God, that's so sweet.
- 57:49You like it, it's so touching.
- 57:50So for somebody to sit here and listen to you, like gush about their, their pieces and how special they are to you, and you wear them on your body every day.
- 57:58That's it's very close.
- 57:59Yeah.
- 57:59It's a very like, intimate thing.
- 58:01Yeah.
- 58:01And I think that people love discovering something that they might potentially connect to.
- 58:07Yeah.
- 58:08Different personalities.
- 58:09How different designers work with you, what their specialties are.
- 58:13What they're passionate about.
- 58:15It's really beautiful.
- 58:15Yeah.
- 58:16That's great.
- 58:17I love it.
- 58:17All right, so we got the jewelry.
- 58:19Okay, cool.
- 58:19We got your favorite.
- 58:20Okay, so we close out our segments with our pink spotlight, which is our person, place thing, tip, mantra, anything that's making this week a little bit better.
- 58:28T and I usually share something once a week, each of us, and then we'll ask our guest, Samantha, to share something that's making your life a little bit brighter this week.
- 58:39But I'll go first and t is going to laugh at me because actually probably a lot of the listeners, listen, I always laugh at you.
- 58:44Probably a lot of the listeners are gonna laugh at me too, because I think I've shared something sleep related, probably a total of 27 times out of our 50 episodes.
- 58:54You're just trying to get it right.
- 58:55You're entering our head here.
- 58:57I'll do anything for a good night of sleep.
- 59:00Like I cannot stress how important like sleep is for me and I.
- 59:06I'm a mouth taper.
- 59:07Now.
- 59:08I honestly, oh my God, I cannot same girl.
- 59:12I can tell us about this.
- 59:13Okay, so I wanna know how, so I'll say that I was influenced by yeah, just say what influencer, let's start there.
- 59:18A lot of the wellness influencers, including one of my good friends, Marissa Mead, who's been on the podcast, is a mouth taper.
- 59:25And I have heard, I've always seen it and I would always be like, that just seems ridiculous.
- 59:30And like, how many more things could I add to my nighttime routine?
- 59:33It is just like absurd at this point.
- 59:35However, when I started to look into it a little bit, I was like, this makes a lot of sense because if your mouth is taped shot, you focus on nasal breathing and nasal breathing regulates your.
- 59:47Nervous system just by breathing that way.
- 59:50And it's something like athletes do and it's something people do in like stressful situations to calm your nervous system.
- 59:56I'm breathing through my nose listening to you talk right now because I'm like, oh my God, we wait.
- 1:00:00So what do you put it on?
- 1:00:01And then you're like, all right Raj.
- 1:00:02So now I not talking anymore.
- 1:00:04It's absolutely absurd.
- 1:00:05No.
- 1:00:05So I do, I put it on like the last minute.
- 1:00:07There's a demo.
- 1:00:08I have a demo.
- 1:00:08'cause I always like a show and tell.
- 1:00:10I always love a show and tell there's a demo.
- 1:00:12This one is by the skinny confidential and she makes them cute and pink and they're lip shaped.
- 1:00:17Oh my God.
- 1:00:17And there is a little hole so that you can have a sip of water and you can breathe if you need to.
- 1:00:22Which I feel like is, I feel like I would have, it would do the opposite.
- 1:00:25If my mouth was fully taped shut, I would probably have a panic attack.
- 1:00:29But this is you can actually breathe, but it like keeps, it's like mouth taping.
- 1:00:32But cheating.
- 1:00:33But cheating a little bit, but cheating a little bit.
- 1:00:35But I'm not kidding.
- 1:00:35So I've done this for over a week and.
- 1:00:38I have never, I don't think I can remember going into a deep sleep as much as I have.
- 1:00:43It's something about, it's, it keeps you in a deep sleep, and it's something about breathing through your nose, really.
- 1:00:49And it's, I have to say, does it help with snoring?
- 1:00:51It helps with snoring a lot.
- 1:00:53Oh my god.
- 1:00:53Can you leave that hand?
- 1:00:54I literally, I joking.
- 1:00:57Leave it.
- 1:00:57Leave it on the table.
- 1:00:58I have been on this podcast.
- 1:00:59And my pink spotlight has been beam hot chocolate.
- 1:01:03It has been sleeping gummies.
- 1:01:05It has been all, I cannot say that any of these things have held as much as this.
- 1:01:09Get out.
- 1:01:09I am not joking.
- 1:01:11I feel like it was like, okay, Lauren Bostic.
- 1:01:12Did you hear that?
- 1:01:13Yeah.
- 1:01:13I feel she's right from her lip.
- 1:01:15I've it to God's for years from her.
- 1:01:16And I'm like, I don't know.
- 1:01:17That just seems ridiculous.
- 1:01:19But Raja has said that I, he has gotten up in the middle of the night and I don't move.
- 1:01:23You're a light sleeper.
- 1:01:24I am a light sleeper.
- 1:01:25So he's I've slept with her before and you can, if you move, I'm awake.
- 1:01:28Move she's up.
- 1:01:29Like I, and he has said he has gotten up and walked around and he's like looking at me like, are you right?
- 1:01:35And then he, but he knows that this is he's so you are actually getting a good night sleep.
- 1:01:38Wow.
- 1:01:38I'm in a deep sleep.
- 1:01:39And so he, as much as he was laughing at me the first couple nights, he's I'm not waking you up.
- 1:01:43Oh.
- 1:01:43But it, so it's working.
- 1:01:44And he said that's a yep.
- 1:01:46I'm, I am now a tried and true.
- 1:01:48Mouth taper and this one is pretty, and you won't have an anxiety attack, I promise.
- 1:01:53And you could have a sip of water in the middle of the night.
- 1:01:55I'm ask to send me pictures of you while you're sleeping.
- 1:01:57Oh, I'll also, I already took a picture of myself.
- 1:01:59Put that on.
- 1:02:00I already a picture of myself.
- 1:02:02Not to worry, but you're awake.
- 1:02:04I need like a picture of sleeping.
- 1:02:06He, Christina.
- 1:02:07Oh yeah.
- 1:02:07With my night mask on.
- 1:02:08I am like, I am in a zone.
- 1:02:10Actually, last night I tried heatless curls too.
- 1:02:12I was a sight to see.
- 1:02:14I had heatless curls.
- 1:02:16Didn't work.
- 1:02:16So won't recommend those.
- 1:02:18I, those do not work.
- 1:02:18They do not work.
- 1:02:19I was like, this was a waste.
- 1:02:20I looked ridiculous.
- 1:02:22But night mask, heatless curls, mouth.
- 1:02:25Tape.
- 1:02:25I'm a sight.
- 1:02:26I'm a sight.
- 1:02:27But I was out.
- 1:02:27I slept until.
- 1:02:29I'm not joking from last night, 10 30 to six 15 this morning.
- 1:02:34Did not wake up one time.
- 1:02:36Wow.
- 1:02:36Unheard of in my life.
- 1:02:37Like I am like a good sleep.
- 1:02:38I'm like a 2:00 AM are a sleep.
- 1:02:40I'm a great sleeper.
- 1:02:40Oh yeah, me too.
- 1:02:41It's a gift.
- 1:02:43A gift.
- 1:02:43It honestly is a gift.
- 1:02:44And it gets lost on Sleeper because Ive alwayss a been a good sleep and I'm not, and I'm not.
- 1:02:48So my husband is a horrible sleeper.
- 1:02:50He tosses and turn, I'm gonna have to give him this.
- 1:02:52Yep.
- 1:02:52It's pr you can get Definitely give them the pink.
- 1:02:54Actually they made them in blue.
- 1:02:55Yeah.
- 1:02:55Do it too.
- 1:02:56They made them in blue.
- 1:02:57'cause I was like, when I was going to get them, I was like, oh wait, they have different options.
- 1:03:00They're gonna see it except for me and for the people.
- 1:03:02There's no visual for They're very cute.
- 1:03:04It's, it looks like lips and it's pink, which I feel like this is very on brand for us.
- 1:03:08I'm sorry.
- 1:03:08Yep.
- 1:03:09I swear by it.
- 1:03:10Pink Lips.
- 1:03:10Pink Spotlight.
- 1:03:11Spotlight.
- 1:03:11Skinny Confidential.
- 1:03:12Did give me a code, so I'll make sure to put it in, in the in the notes, in the show notes because you can use it on the full site.
- 1:03:18But.
- 1:03:18You can get the mouth tape, but swear.
- 1:03:20Okay.
- 1:03:20Swear.
- 1:03:20You heard it here first.
- 1:03:21Swear.
- 1:03:21Yep.
- 1:03:21What about you?
- 1:03:22What's yours?
- 1:03:23So mine is more on brand with me and my love for cleaning.
- 1:03:27Like during this season, your kids are all like, you walk in the house and I'm like, don't go any further separate there.
- 1:03:32Leave your shoes at the door.
- 1:03:33It's like mud.
- 1:03:34Yeah.
- 1:03:34Whatever.
- 1:03:35So yeah, ice salt.
- 1:03:36I, I like vacuum my floors every single day and it doesn't really do anything.
- 1:03:40And then I mop my floors every single day and I feel like mopping my floors is like a whole production.
- 1:03:45And if you use the Swiffer, you're not really even like doing anything.
- 1:03:47No, it does nothing.
- 1:03:48You're pushing it around.
- 1:03:49Yeah.
- 1:03:50You're moving it.
- 1:03:50You're just moving it around and adding another layer.
- 1:03:53Adding another layer.
- 1:03:54So my mom was always like a hot water and vinegar kind of floor cleaner.
- 1:03:58So I've inherited that from her.
- 1:04:00So I was.
- 1:04:01Ordering I don't know, snacks and, all this stuff from Costco the other day.
- 1:04:05And I was on Instacart and I was like, I'm gonna order this mop they had on.
- 1:04:09And it was like by this brand, I think it's called Time Co i Floor Mop.
- 1:04:13And I think it was like$150.
- 1:04:14And essentially what it is like a vacuum cleaner mop.
- 1:04:17So you just put in like the water and then the vinegar, it comes with cleaner.
- 1:04:21But I didn't use the cleaner.
- 1:04:23And then it, you charge in a little charging station.
- 1:04:26And then I just go around my floors, turn it on, and it like mops, vacuums my floors at the same time.
- 1:04:32At the same time.
- 1:04:33And I use it like a hundred times a day because I like the floors to be clean.
- 1:04:39I love it.
- 1:04:39Dog pee mud, everything.
- 1:04:41Yeah, I know.
- 1:04:42I love it.
- 1:04:42So that is making my life pee in mud, all of it.
- 1:04:45Perfect.
- 1:04:45That is making my life a little better.
- 1:04:47Great.
- 1:04:47I'll riff off of yours.
- 1:04:48Yeah.
- 1:04:48Okay.
- 1:04:49With the dog pee.
- 1:04:49Yeah.
- 1:04:50How perfect.
- 1:04:51So as I sit here with a 11 week old puppy in my lap.
- 1:04:55And we also have a 5-year-old yellow lab.
- 1:04:59So I'm going dog on my item.
- 1:05:01Yeah.
- 1:05:01Would love, love.
- 1:05:02This is a dog friendly podcast.
- 1:05:04Yeah.
- 1:05:04That has changed.
- 1:05:05Changed my day to day.
- 1:05:07So we love Yeti products.
- 1:05:08Just in general, who doesn't?
- 1:05:09If you don't come to our side, I know because Yeti side, it's the best.
- 1:05:13It really is.
- 1:05:13It's just the side.
- 1:05:14Yeti dog bowls.
- 1:05:15So I had some crazy collection of random dog bowls, but now I'm a big believer as I have come into my maturity in systems, just things that you do on repeat that make your life simpler and easier.
- 1:05:33So matching dog bowls.
- 1:05:36Four of them, two dogs, two for water, two for food.
- 1:05:40They stack into a system.
- 1:05:42Yeah.
- 1:05:42Nice.
- 1:05:42So I put'em all down, pick them up at the same time.
- 1:05:45I have no idea why we were Yeti, like thermos and mugs and all that, but we didn't have Yeti dog bowls.
- 1:05:52I didn't even know that they made them.
- 1:05:53Now we do.
- 1:05:54Yeah.
- 1:05:55I love them and that's nice.
- 1:05:57Does it keep the water cold too?
- 1:05:58It keeps the water cold, yeah.
- 1:06:00Oh, that's nice.
- 1:06:00It does all the things.
- 1:06:01They're really sturdy.
- 1:06:03They come in really amazing colors.
- 1:06:05Ours, of course, if you follow the Connecticut edit, you know our favorite color is blue.
- 1:06:09It's blue.
- 1:06:09Yep.
- 1:06:10They're all Navy.
- 1:06:11Love it.
- 1:06:12They're really like, they're like indestructible.
- 1:06:15And Ooh, that's good ones.
- 1:06:17That's my, I don't listen.
- 1:06:18I'm only on here once, so I only get one spotlight.
- 1:06:21So I'm putting a lot of weight.
- 1:06:22Yeah.
- 1:06:22This is, because you guys talk about this all the time.
- 1:06:24You're right.
- 1:06:24Sometimes dog, we have to think about it.
- 1:06:27I love it.
- 1:06:27I love it.
- 1:06:27This is what I'm muscle behind.
- 1:06:29Yeah.
- 1:06:30So Yeti dog goals, that's it.
- 1:06:31That is so far.
- 1:06:33Has a great one shot.
- 1:06:35Love that.
- 1:06:35I know.
- 1:06:35Do they make'em small too?
- 1:06:36I have cats has.
- 1:06:37So I was wondering if that's actually we've run into I feel like we have gone through a ton and I don't like any of'em.
- 1:06:42Yes.
- 1:06:43So I'm like wondering if that's something we should try.
- 1:06:45Yes, they do.
- 1:06:45And my cats are very picky with the, they want the water cold.
- 1:06:48They do.
- 1:06:48And so you, we constantly have to be like, we will be texting me in a few days.
- 1:06:53Oh, I love, I got, yes, we have might be life small ones too.
- 1:06:57And they are great.
- 1:06:59And they're great to have in your car, especially when it's really hot outside.
- 1:07:02I know.
- 1:07:02None of us can imagine that right now.
- 1:07:03No.
- 1:07:04Since it's so freezing.
- 1:07:05But when it's hot out, they keep water cold.
- 1:07:08If you're at the beach or you're on a dog walk or when you get back to the car and they need a sip of water.
- 1:07:13Yeah.
- 1:07:13All about the Yeti dog pool.
- 1:07:14I love this.
- 1:07:15That's a great one.
- 1:07:15I know we have a lot of animal.
- 1:07:17I know.
- 1:07:17My pink spotlight two weeks ago was a dog product, was dog shampoo.
- 1:07:21It was the shampoo conditioner.
- 1:07:23All in one that I'm using the Mrs.
- 1:07:24Meyers one.
- 1:07:25Love it.
- 1:07:26Great.
- 1:07:26I'm all Things dog right now.
- 1:07:27Yes, me too.
- 1:07:28We're all Me too.
- 1:07:30As I have Mamas a dog sleeping on my lap.
- 1:07:31Oh my gosh.
- 1:07:32Oh, he's waking up.
- 1:07:33Oh.
- 1:07:34Hello Toby.
- 1:07:34I also have to say Orvis dog colors.
- 1:07:37For.
- 1:07:37Oh, okay.
- 1:07:38I feel like a really rugged today, Yeti and Orvis.
- 1:07:41But I love, or this is the fishing store, right?
- 1:07:43Yes.
- 1:07:43There's one in Avon.
- 1:07:44There is.
- 1:07:45And they make amazing dog colors and you can stitch their names onto'em.
- 1:07:49Yeah.
- 1:07:49And your phone numbers.
- 1:07:49And they come in all these little sheet colors.
- 1:07:52So I'm a big fan of Orbi too.
- 1:07:53Who would've thought, who?
- 1:07:55Me?
- 1:07:55You are dog.
- 1:07:56What are you so glad you had me on?
- 1:07:58I would not have thought.
- 1:07:59But see you, you never were walking into Orvis before and now you'll be there.
- 1:08:03Actually, I have a funny story about Orvis.
- 1:08:05My, one of my sons is loves to fish.
- 1:08:07So my husband started, they're known for fly fishing, my husband or started going in there to get fishing stuff.
- 1:08:12Yeah.
- 1:08:12So he came home one day with a bag full of clothes and he is I bought you something.
- 1:08:15I'm like, you bought me something.
- 1:08:17And he's and I looked at the bag, Orvis.
- 1:08:19You're like, he got me a rugby shirt.
- 1:08:21It was like maroon and like white.
- 1:08:23And at first I was like a rugby shirt.
- 1:08:25Like this is like a boy shirt.
- 1:08:27But actually it's very cute and I like it.
- 1:08:28And then he got me like a quilted like shack.
- 1:08:31Yeah.
- 1:08:31That I like both products, but I was like giving him shit for it.
- 1:08:34You're an he girl.
- 1:08:35Me present at Orvis.
- 1:08:37I like it.
- 1:08:37I'm super to it.
- 1:08:38But I liked it.
- 1:08:39My dad was, I, it used to fly fish a lot.
- 1:08:43And so Orvis was always in the conversation.
- 1:08:46But I hadn't thought about it for so many years.
- 1:08:48And then someone recommended that they have great dog products and they do.
- 1:08:52So there you go.
- 1:08:53I get a double pink spotlight.
- 1:08:55All right.
- 1:08:56That's But all dog related.
- 1:08:57And you know what, we talk a lot about mom things, but I feel like we're also veering into the like pet mom and pet parent avenue and I'm here for it, like all of it.
- 1:09:05Oh, I'm so here for it.
- 1:09:06We give the kids enough attention, the fur babies are just as important.
- 1:09:10It's funny, I go to a gym and so many moms Yeah, of course.
- 1:09:15Yeah.
- 1:09:15Moms of kids of every single age.
- 1:09:18And I think everyone is just sick of hearing about kids.
- 1:09:22Yeah.
- 1:09:22All anyone wants to talk about are the pets.
- 1:09:25I'm like, I'm here for it because I got a lot of puppy content.
- 1:09:28Me too.
- 1:09:28I have a lot of puppy content.
- 1:09:29Me too.
- 1:09:30I love it.
- 1:09:30Oh, I know.
- 1:09:31Samantha, thank you so much for coming here today.
- 1:09:34Thank you.
- 1:09:34And coming in the studio, I know in studio is so special and for sharing all of your highly coveted knowledge, and we really appreciate you being a life share and starting the Connecticut edit for not only us but for all of our Connecticut girls.
- 1:09:47And I'm sure like neighboring, states, I'm sure you bleed a little into New York as well.
- 1:09:52We do.
- 1:09:52Thank you guys so much for Thank you.
- 1:09:54Yeah, for having me on.
- 1:09:55This was so much fun.
- 1:09:56And can you tell our audience where to find you?
- 1:09:59You have two to share both of your accounts.
- 1:10:01Of course.
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- 1:10:17We love getting tips as much as we love giving them.
- 1:10:20Oh, I love that.
- 1:10:21We love that.
- 1:10:22Thank you so much.
- 1:10:23Thank you.
- 1:10:24We will See you guys next week.
- 1:10:25Bye.
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