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Episode 392 - Brisket on a Biscuit! · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey lay the
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cable guy and you're listening to ted God Radio. Welcome to another episode of
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tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, and I'm justin.
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Let me how you guys doing. That's good to see you all.
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Sean, we have to ask you fatherhood. Second time around, I fall
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asleep. But yeah, no, it's been great. Right, it's been
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almost three weeks. Daniel's doing good, Max is doing good, Kale's doing
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good, family's doing good. We're healthy, nobody's sick. Now we're getting
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into the springtime. We can get outside and KALs. You know, we
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took a walk the other day and it's just it's been nice. So we're
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grateful for healthy babies and just crap all round. So it's been good.
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That is cool. I've been I've been wondering about that, how everything was
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going. And you know, because this is also kind of an amplified work
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schedule for you at this point because sports kind of kicking up right, so
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so Springs sports are happening right now on the campus of nor Dame. We're
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also hosting the first round of the NCAA women's basketball tournament. Oh wow.
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So on top of that, we also today today we recorded the show.
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We did our NFL Pro Day show for NBC on NBC at Peacock. It
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was a very busy day for me today, so I'm kind of just amped
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up, like I should be asleep, but I've kind of been go,
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go, go go all day. So you guys were like, let's record.
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I was like, sure, let's do it. Let's just get it
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done. Let's get it. Well, we were going to try it.
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We were going to try and do it yesterday and Justin, I know your
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your mom's visiting, which is pretty cool. So we were going to try
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and do it yesterday with me and Sean, and then Sean is like he
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texted me, he goes, dude, I'm about to fall asleep. Yeah.
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Yeah, no, I'm glad I've mentioned it. I was like,
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hey, you know, if you guys are ready, now let's go.
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Yeah. You had a pretty exciting day to day too, Justin, because
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well it's something that I'm looking forward to. We're actually good beginning in southern
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Arizona and now you went to one and Sean, I guess is a big
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fan because he actually bought their plushy. Yeah, oh no, trust me,
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we we did too. Uh yeah. We actually, with my mom
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being in town and and Mysa being off, my myself off as well,
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we we went up to Johnstown, Colorado, which is pretty much Fort Collins.
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It's like a forty five minute drive north of here. We went to
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the first Colorado BUCkies. Ah. And for those of you who don't know,
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BUCkies is just like a giant gas station. It's not a truck stop.
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They do not allow semi trucks there, but it is. It's a
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giant gas station slash market, slash home goods store. People have a convenience
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store. People have actually called it the Walmart of gas stations. I mean
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it's enormous, right Easily, we went up there and we were still five
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miles away from it, and I could see the building. Whoa, I
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could, I could see it, that's how big it was. And so
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once we got up there, yeah, it's insane. I mean, they've
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got here. I'm pull up the stats right now. It is a seventy
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four thousand square foot building fronted by one hundred and sixteen fuel pumps. It
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employs over two hundred and seventy five staff members to keep the place going twenty
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four to seven. What wow. It's known for some things. Yeah,
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all right, Like, well what is it known for. Well, I
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mean obviously with a beef jerkey. Oh my god, I got a bag
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of beef jerkey. It was amazing. No, they are known for mostly
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because they're massive. They're also known for their fresh food station. I mean
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it's literally like a cafeteria. Constantly they have this massive kitchen in the back
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and they're bringing out fresh brisket, like smoked brisket sandwiches, fried chicken sandwiches,
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turkey shredded turkey sandwiches, and they always have this like weird chant like
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when they bring fresh brisket out right, they're like fresh brisket all on the
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butt and everybody, like every employee in the place, we'll say it,
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you know. And the bathrooms. They're also known for having exceptionally clean bathrooms.
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And I will tell you, oh my god. I mean you ever
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been in one of like those fancy restaurants where there's like an attendant who's like
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standing next to you and like will hand you like a paper towel and ya
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you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't quite like that,
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but like, first off, every urinal is surrounded by like there's there's no
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jut out of a jut out wall pony wall that sticks out, so like
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you're never like right next to somebody. And then every toilet is in its
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own private room like they had, like like every stall is like a handicapped
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stall, but it's like it's not just like a bunch of partitions put up.
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It is like built into a wall. And there's a light above the
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door. If the door's locked, it's red, if it's open, it's
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green. And so you know what stalls are available where. And then I
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went, I went and I did number one. Well thank you, and
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well no, no, no, it's for it's you. You'll understand.
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Right the moment I turn around, there's an employee scrubbing out the urinal.
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Are you kidding me? Come on, no really, no, no no
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I'm not. I was like, well, and they were just like,
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oh no, you just caught me on the on this go round like but
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they're literally walking around the entire time, just cleaning, cleaning, cleaning,
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cleaning, cleaning. That bathroom was immaculate, but again you have all this
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food like snacks galore, right, that you can. They have fresh fudge,
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they've got roasted nuts, they've got glazed nuts, they've got don't fresh
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doughnuts. They've got pastries, they've got brisket sandwiches, fried chicken sandwiches,
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sausage on a stick, turkey sandwiches, fresh actually cuts. They actually have
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a butcher count Now, a butcher counter, I shouldn't say that. A
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deli where like you can go and get if you don't want a sandwich,
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you can just go get a cup full of brisket, like they have like
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brisket just laid out there and it was put in a cup and be like
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here you go, fresh biscuit, brisket. I keep saying biscuit. I
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don't know why on a brisket. Yeah, but it's like it's it's like
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a cafeteria. Now. Of course they've got the convenience store section, but
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the rest of it is like merch. Like I got a sweatshirt and I
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got a T shirt. You went because I went all out for our listeners
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that are watching. You got a Bucky sweatshirt, a hoodie, and then
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underneath it you've got another shirt, Sean shirt. Sean is showing us he
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got what now, what is that Bucky itself? Yep, yeah, Bucky
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the Beaver, Bucky the Beaver. And and we got we got too plushies,
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actually a smaller one and a bigger one. We got a big plushy
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pillow. We've got a little figurine, which, by the way, I
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thought was hilarious. Mysa bought a Bucky figurine and put it in the dash
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of her Tesla. Right now, do you do? You do you guys
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get the irony behind that? Well? Do they have charge gas station?
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A gas station mascot in the dash of an electric car? Do they have
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charging? Yes, they have a fourteen bay Tesla charger. Oh look at
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that now, Sean. Do they have these in South Bend or out near
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you? No? I've never been their BUCkies. Oh you can get my
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mom. My mom is obsessed, really really so my travels to My mom
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travels to Texas a lot for for her work, and she goes to BUCkies
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every time she's there and brings Max something back every time. Uh. Max
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has four BUCkies shirts, BUCkies pants. There was a full adults There was
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a full adult sized Bucky costume you could buy. I almost I told my
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mom to get me one next time she was there, so that might happen.
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But Max will ask for his BUCkies T shirt. He wants, I
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want my Bucky shirt. Wow. You know, it's funny who Bucky is
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and it's just it's fun. The first time I ever heard of BUCkies was
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from Broadway because Broadway was living in Yeah, I lived in Texas for a
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while and you know, people mentioned Bucky and you think, okay, yeah,
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it's like a quick trip or a you know, or speedway or even
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me, I'm really happy we got a Maverick now in Arizona, because in
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southern Arizona they have them in Flagstaff and Maverick is like, to me,
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it's you know, I love Circle K's, but they're kind of stepped a
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little bigger and you know that whole bit. And they got one here.
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Think about it. An average gas station is what twenty five one hundred square
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feet three thousand square feet probably about that. Yeah, this was seventy four
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thousand square feet. It is like the ones. It's an experience, it
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is. I mean we walked in there, and we walked in there on
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a Thursday afternoon at three thirty in the afternoon, right and there was at
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least five hundred people in there. Oh my lord, really, and that
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was not They said that was their slow time over the weekend when they opened
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on Sunday, that Sunday, within twenty four hour period Sunday to Monday morning
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or Monday whenever they open on you know, Sunday, twenty four hours from
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that, forty five thousand people came from that door. How about coffee,
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I mean, I'm you know, I'm a coffee huge coffee station. So
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they've got to have all the different kinds of coffee everything, lattes, cappuccinos,
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espressos, coffee, about four different types of creamer. And here's the
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kicker. They don't put the creamer in those stupid little machines you find in
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the convenience stores. No, no, sir. They have leaders of it
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that you buy at costco in an ice bin and you just whip out which
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one you want and you pour it in your cup and put it back on
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the ice bin. I mean, they've got marshmallows, marshmallows, BUCkies.
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Well, here's the good news for our listeners that are listening to this.
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We're hearing justin extoll the virtues of that shun as well, you know,
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showing his plushy Let's see, that makes me want to buy a gas car
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again? Makes you want to buy a gas car? I love that,
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you know what. That's the title of the show right there, makes me
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want to buy a gas car again? Like that. But we are actually
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getting one finally, And it was just announced just this past week that there
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will be a BUCkies in Goodyear, Arizona. Which is so if you're taking
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I don't know if you did the trip when you lived in San Diego,
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guys, but if you take the ten between you know, blythe and Phoenix
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in between, there is like Goodyear, and I mean, as you're leaving
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city limits, why would they put it way out there. I think they're
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gonna get people that are going to California and coming from California rather than people
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that are just in Phoenix. I mean, they know what they're doing.
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Yeah, I bet you that if it does well, that they'll eventually open
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one Tucson between two southern Phoenix. I don't even know where the closest BUCkies
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is to be. I'm gonna look it up, all right, Yeah,
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google food that after the break. Yeah, it is definitely a crazy experience.
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So I mean, if you get a chance, it's awesome. I
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mean it's like you're walking in there. It's like Disneyland in a way.
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Love that, all right. We got an email in from Steve in Celudita.
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That's I'm listening to the show and he's got a dilemma that some of
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us run into. He says, I can't find, for the life of
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me, find my laptop charger. None of those things disappear, right,
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You'll usually you know what it is, people leave them where they go to
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a coffee shop or somewhere and they've plugged in. They actually will leave that
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and forget that. It's an HP that I bought a couple of years ago,
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and I'm trying to decide if it's better to go online and buy a
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replacement. I know you can go on to but you go out Amazon,
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you can usually find replacements, sometimes there a third party. Sometimes you get
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HP, he said, or just run to Walmart and get a universal charger
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that they sell there with those work in this case, absolutely not, No,
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all right, why would you want to do that? I mean,
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you think about with a laptop. Yeah, you've got a battery in it,
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but your charger is your lifeblood. If you screw that up, you're
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just gonna screw up your whole computer. I mean, do not do that.
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Do not do a universal charger. What I would do if I were
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you, Steve, is look up the model number of laptop, find the
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spec sheet on it. It's gonna tell you what kind of charger comes with
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it. And it's gonna say it's an HP. It's gonna be an HP.
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It's gonna say something like five amps at you know, nineteen volts or
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nineteen volts or something like that. Output or whatever. You know, those
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are the numbers you want. You need to know what the output of it
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is. Input is always the same, you know, it's one twenty.
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That's it's always the same. The output is what matters. Then what you
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do is you once you find the output, you go and you type in
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you know, to eBay or whatever like HP charger, you know, and
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in whatever, maybe the output is nine, you know, nineteen volt or
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whatever it is. But do not get like a universal one. Get the
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one that's made for your laptop. And another point, and I don't know
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if you've run into this before. I've had people that have mentioned stuff when
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shopping on Amazon. And it's not to knock the Amazon platform, but you
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really read the reviews. Make sure what you're getting is authentic because it's really
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easy to slap, you know, a manufacturer label on something. So just
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make sure you follow through and do you have to do. It's not like
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the old days you walked into CompUSA or you walked into Fry's Electronics or even
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Best Buy still and you look to go, Okay, yeah that's what I
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need and you put it in your cart and you buy it. If you're
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online, you do have to be really careful about what's being sold. So
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make sure it's authentic. I mean honestly, when you mentioned about Amazon,
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I mean it's it's getting to the point now where I'm I would much rather
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actually shop on eBay again than Amazon anymore because Amazon, there's there's so many
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scams on Amazon, and then their customer service have gotten terrible. Yeah,
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and it's almost better, just as a whole has become pretty bad. Yeah,
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it's really gotten bad. Yeah. You know what is really interesting though,
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We've just opened here in Green Valley and there open they just opened one
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yesterday on i know in Thorny to yell if you remember that intersection there justin
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at the old BOOKMNS that was there a amaz super It's called the super bin
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Store. And what these are is Amazon returns Amazon. So when Amazon gets
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their returns, there have been cases where Amazon people have gone to return stuff
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at Amazon, they've said, you know what, just keep it, and
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that's happened where they just say, you know, hold on it will give
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you a refund. They just don't want to deal with having to refund it
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and bring it all back in. So Amazon Bin Store takes that material,
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they put it on tables and they say, okay, this day, stuff's
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fifteen bucks. Yep. The next day it's thirteen. And then it goes
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all the way down. And people that live here in Green Valley that have
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been, you know, shopping or have said they've found great deals. I
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saw a woman with an iPhone fourteen that pick one up on eight dollars day.
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So you never know, you never know what you're gonna get. Now,
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there are so from what I understand, bins that are around the wall
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that may be a little pricier than that fifteen dollars. So again that that
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might have material that might be a little more to go swore thirteen. You
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have to sort through it. Yeah, oh, you have to go digging
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through it. But well, I'll tell you some of the photos. I
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was on their Facebook page and some of the photos they had an oculus you
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know. Wow, Yeah, a medicquest, a mediquest oculus, you know.
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And I'm like, that's a pretty good find. You know. No,
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that is well, you know, you can do that with Amazon directly
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too. Sometimes, you like, if you have the space and the money,
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you can buy an entire palette of returns and you have apps. It's
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like a treasure chest. You have absolutely no idea. And I've been watching
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from time to time. I'll watch these guys on YouTube and this is like,
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this is the their addiction. You know. They get these palettes and
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they're in it for the thrill. It's like those guys that go do those
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stars storage wars. The storage you never know what you're gonna get when you
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open it up, right, Yeah, that would be a trip to buy
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one a storage locker. You know, imagine, imagine you get one that
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has old technology in it. Well, the man, that would be cool.
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There was one there was one video I watched on YouTube where a guy
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got a palette from Amazon, right, and he had no idea what it
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was. I think I meant. I think he said he paid five hundred
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for it, and it was a case or a palette full of custom built
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computers whoa not bad, each one worth about fifteen hundred dollars. Right,
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Well, that is something that's pretty pretty big. But again, I think
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some good advice for Steve, your advice about you know, oh yeah,
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we went off on a tangent. Yeah, now we had a we had
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another listener comment on Facebook, and I really thought this is important to share
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and mentioned because it's great advice. And I reached out to the folks behind
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at this company and never heard a word back from them. But here's here's
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what we got. Said. I heard your show recently about the stream deck.
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I asked my boss about getting one for me from my office. I
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have a bit of carpal tunnel pain in my right arm and thought this may
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help get a good portion of clicking and scrolling moved over to my other hand
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and it did. The thing is the bomb. I told my boss up
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front it would likely not make me more productive but help with the pain.
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But it does, in fact help me do things quicker and be more productive.
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I got the Excel plug in and programmed many buttons I often use.
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Since then, two others in my office got one, and likely a few
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more will get one once they see what this thing can do in an office
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setting, which is what you were talking about, Justin. Yeah, so
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we don't stream at all, but I love this thing after only a few
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days of using it. Many add on devices I find gimmicky and not very
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helpful, but honestly think for anyone working on a PC all day, that
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this device is the best add on you could get. First time I found
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something that actually helped by a huge margin. Every office worker should have one.
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We all get the fifteen. We all got the fifth team button version
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and found using it without the supplied stand best for office work. Thank you
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for the tip. That's for you, Justin from Rick B. I'm so
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glad Rick that that that worked out for you, because honestly I love it.
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I love the stream deck. Sean, you you mentioned it too,
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so yeah, you I think you can introduce the stream deck. I have
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one here at my computer, and we probably got more than a dozen of
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them at work doing different things. Now. See, I think I think
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the hard part here is that a lot of people associate stream deck. Might
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go into Best Buy and they're going to see the stream deck with the other
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streaming equipment like the camera and the microphone and the lighting. But it goes
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beyond being used for gaming. Here is a portion where you can actually use
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it for just everyday computer use. I mean, honestly, I really wish
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you can have it open. Yeah, you can have it open bookmarks,
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you can have it open Windows, you can have it open. You know,
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it does it does so much stuff. I feel like this is the
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problem that El Gato should address. Ago is the maker of the stream deck.
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They need to be marketing this in two facets, you know, like
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to the gaming community. Yeah, sure, that's what they do. They
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named it after the gaming community, but also market it to the office worker
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exactly. I mean, this is is a great tool. That's why I
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thought this, this you know comment from Rick was perfect for that. And
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now if you look, Logitech has actually invested in loop deck. So now
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loop Deck, from what I understand, is something along the same line.
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I haven't used it yet. I haven't seen it. They there's a couple
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other competitors. Yeah, and I would think you know, I looked online
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and honestly, the closest that I could find too, the Algado stream Deck,
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was probably you know, the Loo loop deck, and how you could
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program it to do the same kind of thing. So justin tell me,
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if I've got one on my desk and I use Google Word, I maybe
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open up a website for my company, and I do all of that,
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and I have them all sized, I can hit one button and that will
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all come up in that same format and frame. That's that's that's what I
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do every morning. So like when I get into work, I I reboot
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my computer to get a fresh start, and when it comes up to the
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desktop, I press one button and it then goes and it opens up off
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it or Outlook. Then it repositions the outlook window to where I want it
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to be. Then it opens up Firefox repositions, That opens up Microsoft one
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Note and Teams repositions those on my second and third monitors, and uh and
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then and yeah, and then it sets a bluetooth on Wi Fi on It
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automatically connects my my my you know, headphones to it. It does everything
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with one single button press. Now, Sean, are you looking at loop
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deck right? Now I'm looking at that. I've seen these before, but
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they have definitely have a handful of new products. Yeah they I mean they
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look cool. Yeah, and this this looks like a mashup of the stream
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deck and the go x l R. Yeah, the loop deck Live.
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It's actually cheaper too. Yeah, it didn't tell us that the go xlr
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was kind of like not the goal xlr is abandoned. Weear now they're no
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longer supporting the bummer because I know Matt uses that pretty he has it,
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that's what he uses. And Algado came out with a competitor to the go
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xl R, not with xl R inputs, but with Windows some Windows functionality
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control, so you can do sound change, you can change audio inputs and
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things like that with with some digital encoders. But these loop deck things look
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very similar to stream decks, but they have with a little bit of that.
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Yeah, like plus looks pretty cool. The loo Oh my gosh.
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Yeah, these are definitely cad to a little bit more of a niche market
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in terms of like video editing and some some some of the podcasts. I
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agree with that, Sean, I mean, yes, they're they're definitely geared
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more towards the graphic artist or the video artist or audio engineers, thing like
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that. But I mean they are basically a stream deck, but they're also
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a lot thinner. But stream Deck what I like about it is it's literally
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just an external fifteen key pad. Now you can customize to do whatever you
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want it to do. They have a smaller stream deck that I have seen,
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a key six key, but as Rick had mentioned, they got the
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fifteen key. Is that that's a better unit for for this type of thing.
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I mean, which which one do you have, Sean? So I've
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got the fifteen key, right, so if I if I can hold it
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up. If not, it has on. I just don't have the software
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open right now. But this is this is the fifteen key and it's white,
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right, So yeah, I have one of those networks. It's enough
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for what I need work. We have the fifteen keys also, but we
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also have the XL which is thirty two keys because we do some functions with
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the thirty two ones that need more buttons in one page versus the fifteens.
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And there is a software that you can get that will utilize the stream deck
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hardware, but it's its own software called bit Focused Companion right, which is
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if you know any video professional or broadcast professional, they know what bit focused
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Companion is because it's running in so many production houses, so many video engineer
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you know, it's a must have for they're calling it. They call it
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like it controls stuff, right, So I can connect my computer to the
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stream deck, run bit focused Companion, and then with this software connect to
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things like our video switcher or our expression our graphics machine, or our video
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router or things like that, and actually running commands from the stream deck that
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will do things within those environments. So it can control like our PTZ cameras
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at work, I can set up a page that has Pantel zoom function,
24:14
zoom, white balance, all that stuff now on through this software running off
24:18
the stream deck. What about cost? If somebody is listening to this and
24:22
they're thinking, well, you know what, I want to get one of
24:22
these, because I think this would be great on my desk because I open
24:26
a lot of windows throughout the day, or I log into maybe two or
24:29
three different sites in the morning when I come in. What are they going
24:33
to be spending if they want to get the fifteen key like stream deck on
24:37
average? I mean, are they are they looking and investing a lot of
24:41
money in this No? No, So the stream Deck Mini is like just
24:45
under one hundred bucks. I think the Mini Mini Mini stream Deck Mini is
24:49
fifte oh cool. Yeah, and then then the fifteen key one is one
24:53
hundred and fifty. That's not bad. That's not bad at all. All
24:56
Right, we got to take quick break. We come back. We've got
25:00
more to talk about, and I'll tell you how I troubleshooted something. I
25:02
thought I was gonna have to buy a new TV. I didn't have to.
25:04
I'll tell you why. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird,
25:08
and I'm justin. Let me find us on the internet at tech talk radio
25:11
dot com. We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
25:15
There's nothing worse than when you, uh, well, I guess there could
25:19
be worse when you come into the studio or you get into your office and
25:23
your computers are shut down and you know that you didn't shut them down,
25:27
and then you love those yeah, but they they are completely powered off.
25:33
And then you look and you see the other items that are not controlled by
25:37
a PC. There also have been reset. So I know that it took
25:40
some kind of a power hit right now, I've got a ups How I
25:45
didn't hear it, I don't know, but I had that happen and then
25:48
didn't think anything of it. Well, in my office, which is aside
25:52
from the studio, I have a thirty two inch television that I have there.
25:57
It's connected to Google. So that way my doorbell, because I've got
26:03
a Nest doorbell, it will announce it on the TV. But if I'm
26:07
just sitting there working and I want to have something on behind me, or
26:10
I can I whant I do my new segments for Fox Sometimes if what I'm
26:14
doing them from home, I'll put the logo behind me on the television and
26:18
it's great. So I use the TVO stream four K and what that is.
26:23
It's basically like considered like an Amazon Firestick or Roku, but this is
26:30
put out by TVO and I like it. The channel guide is good.
26:33
I have access to Disney HBO, you know through my accounts that I you
26:37
know, I've subscribed to Pair Themount. I've also got channels that are available
26:42
that you couldn't get anywhere else. And I noticed that it would go into
26:48
a reboot of the TVO logo and I was like, whoa, okay,
26:52
what's going on there? And no matter what I did, I couldn't reset
26:56
it. I hit the reset button on the side of it wouldn't come back
27:00
up and it would just reboot and never give me my channel guide or get
27:04
into you know, the their their programs. So I thought, oh,
27:08
wow, well you know what happened here. So I took that TV,
27:12
that TVO device and I came into this TV. We've got a TV in
27:17
the studio here, uh, and I plugged it in there the h dm
27:21
iPort and it was fine, even did an update, and I'm like,
27:26
wow, okay, that's weird. So then I took a my fire stick
27:30
that's in this studio, took it to that television, plugged it in.
27:34
Nothing. I'm like, oh boy, I think I've yeah, So I'm
27:41
thinking, okay, well, I think I've I've actually, you know,
27:44
I actually thought I took out a couple of HD myports on the television because
27:48
nothing was coming up. The USB port was working fine, and I have
27:52
that's the stick where I have the photos on, so I can have that
27:55
at the background. Right. I was so frustrated, and I started looking
27:59
for a TV to buy and then a little blake bulb went off the side
28:03
of my head. Wait, Andy, what if the one thing I didn't
28:07
change. I didn't change the little power connector that plugs into my you know,
28:14
my UPS. I didn't change that, the cable, didn't change that.
28:19
So I did this is what you have to do when you're troubleshooting.
28:23
So I went ahead and I found another power adapter, you know, a
28:27
little brick that had a USB plug you could plug into a USB in there,
28:33
change it out, plugged it into that TV, and sure enough it
28:36
worked. So I was ready to go buy a new TV. But really
28:40
it was just the little the little USB plug that you plug into, which
28:45
is plugged into your power So that's what went out on that. Somehow it
28:48
didn't survive the power surge because it had to be a power surge. So
28:53
that took me back. Yeah, but weird. Yeah, so again a
28:57
little something to think about and another reason why. I mean, you just
29:03
you just demonstrated everybody. This is the basic This is how you troubleshoot stuff
29:07
like walk down the line all the way from the product that you're looking at,
29:11
down to the connectors that connect to that product, down to the electricity.
29:17
I mean, you have to just step your way back. That's how
29:19
an engineer thinks. Yeah, first I assumed it was a TVO. Then
29:22
I assumed it was the TV, but it ended up being a little,
29:26
you know, twelve dollars part that Luckily I had another one that was sitting
29:30
around and was able to use that. So awesome again. Yeah, you
29:33
gotta be careful when you're troubleshooting and get getting ready to throw something out.
29:36
Now, you bought something, and I think I have an idea what you
29:40
bought, because your eyes lit up a little when I mentioned the stream deck,
29:48
and I'm thinking it might be it might have something to do with that.
29:52
I don't know, maybe not well as you may or may not know
29:55
if you play video games at all. It's the it's the Steam Spring sale.
30:00
Oh and they what do they do now, Sean? Is it?
30:03
Is it? They do it four times a year, like they do a
30:07
spring, summer, fall, winter sale. Every day's a sale on Steam.
30:10
I don't know, Oh, I missed the spring sale. It's the
30:14
summer sale. It used to be twice a year they would do a sale
30:18
regardless. Steam is like it's a repository for you. To buy PC games,
30:23
right, and so you buy all your games through Steam and you don't
30:29
need to have discs for them or anything like that. Like they're digitally installed,
30:33
so like you can install it, uninstall it, reinstall it over,
30:36
you know whatever, any to your heart's content. You know, it's funny
30:38
in your library forever. You know, it's funny if you go into like
30:41
a Walmart or even even a best Buy, mind you, and you look
30:45
at the titles that are on the shelves, You're not gonna see very many
30:48
titles anymore. No, everything's digital now. Yeah, the way I mean
30:52
it really is the way we're all getting our games, whether you get it
30:55
from you know, uh, game Pass or Steam or any of the other
31:00
yeah that are out. I mean yeah, PlayStation's got their own xboxes,
31:03
got their own Steam. I mean Steam has been around for what twenty five
31:07
years? Maybe, I mean ninety eight, ninety nine I think is when
31:11
it came out. I don't know whatever, really, I don't know.
31:15
Maybe not let Sean do his Google for these really good The valve was the
31:18
ones that came up with Half Life, right, yes, and shortly after
31:22
that, okay, maybe so maybe like two thousand and five. Yeah maybe
31:25
anyway, Well, yeah, okay, fine, whatever. But here's the
31:29
thing. I don't have time to like sit at my computer to play.
31:33
I mean, I sit at a computer all day long. I don't I
31:34
don't want to sit anymore. Like right now, I have my gaming laptop,
31:37
and I find myself firing up Steam more than I do Xbox Game Pass
31:44
just because of the selection of games. I mean, there's ten to one
31:48
amount of games on Steam as there is to Xbox or PlayStation. But I
31:52
don't like setting up my laptop all the time, Like it's it's cumbersome,
31:56
you know, And I just well, it so happens that Steam has a
32:01
portable handheld and it's gonna call it the steam Deck. Yes, so you
32:08
know, the stream Deck. It's the Steam Deck. So you heard us
32:13
talking about stream deck. What to do? Is you you? You know,
32:15
you tell the other half I'm gonna buy the stream Deck. I think
32:17
that'd be great, and you accidentally buy the steam Deck. Oh we see.
32:22
It's only a difference of like three hundred dollars. It's not a big
32:25
deal. But no, so I was I was sitting there looking at it.
32:29
I'm like, you know what I've been saving up some money for something.
32:31
I just I don't really have anything in mind, and I was like,
32:35
you know what, screw it, let's do it. So I bought
32:37
myself a five hundred and twelve gigabyte O Lead. It's an O Lead screen.
32:44
It's the new model of the Steam Deck. So it's the five hundred
32:47
and twelve gigabyte O Lead Steam Deck. It's got a seven point four inch
32:52
screen, so it's a little bit bigger than the original Steam Deck. And
32:57
then I bought like an extra I mean, I don't know what sixteen gigs
33:00
ram. It's got a I don't know what kind of processor in it,
33:04
but it's it's pretty nice. It runs off Linux, it runs off Steam
33:07
OS, but you can sideload it with Xbox GamePass, Battle dot Net,
33:14
a bunch of emulators. Like you can emulate anything from like game Boy all
33:17
the way up to you know, PlayStation four. Right, I mean you
33:22
can emulate anything on the Steam Deck. You can't raise play Switch games on
33:24
there, right, I mean yes, you can? What really? Yes,
33:29
you can emulate Nintendo. Yes, there's there's a bunch of Nintendo emulators
33:31
out there. Absolutely, Like this is an all in one unit and that
33:37
unit alone, so I got the again. I bought the five to twelve
33:39
gig model, which does have an SD card slot so you can expand it
33:44
so I can go out and buy like a two terabyte card if I want
33:47
it or whatever. Anyway, just out the door with that alone, it
33:52
was five and eighty five dollars, right, So it's it's a little bit
33:55
pricey. I mean, it's obviously pricier than an Xbox or a pl PlayStation
34:00
five or god forbid a switch. I mean it's it's more expensive than all
34:04
those. But on top of that, I also bought an armored case.
34:08
I can't remember. I think it's just Go, I think JUSTCO or whatever.
34:13
But it is an armored case with a kickstand. But it also includes
34:15
a it's a specialized cooling fan that you strap onto the back and it actually
34:22
helps lower it by about ten degrees because that thing gets hot, right.
34:27
But it does have fifty hours battery life. Fifty hours yeah, oh man.
34:34
Yeah, But I mean if you're playing like Triple A titles, like
34:37
really graphically intensive ones, yeah, you're not gonna get fifty hours. If
34:40
you're playing like Stardoo Valley or something like Super Easy two D you know whatever.
34:46
Yes, you'll get a lot of time out of it. But that's
34:49
what I'm playing lately. I'm playing chill games. Now, I don't I'm
34:52
not saying call of duty for somebody that has played on screens larger than you
34:58
know, fifteen inch screens. You're you're playing your game titles, and you're
35:01
used to that, and now you know, we've got these massive screens now
35:05
you know, forty nine inch fifty two inch screens that you can play with
35:07
computer games. Going to the smaller screen on the uh Steam deck? Is
35:15
that did take a little while to get used to that. Well, I'll
35:17
tell you when I get it. Oh you bought it? Oh wow,
35:21
I just bought it today, Like literally, I just bought it this morning.
35:24
It should be here in three to five days. No, I give
35:27
you. I get what you're saying. Yeah, it's gonna take a little
35:29
bit of getting used to because you're gonna be focusing your entire play area on
35:32
a smaller palette, if you will, Like you know, and and me,
35:37
I wear glasses when I have to look at my phone or or or
35:40
my computer. So I'm already gonna have to wear glasses anyway. To watch
35:44
this. So, yeah, you're compressing everything down to extremely small size.
35:50
But what you get on the upside of that is you get portability. I
35:52
don't have to get my huge laptop desk, you know, carrier my my
35:57
lap, laptop carrier off of my lap and then get out of the chair
36:01
and make sure the laptop is set on the floor properly, and then go
36:05
get myself a drink and come back and sit. I lift the big old
36:08
laptop back up on the thing, you know, No, I just I
36:12
just put the little handheld down and go get my stuff and come back and
36:15
grab the handheld. Now what what about? All right? So can you
36:19
can you toss the video to a big screen TV? Absolutely? There's yo.
36:23
Look at that. That's and it supports all controllers. So if you
36:27
want to use a PlayStation controller with it. Again, if you want to
36:30
use an Xbox, go ahead. Do you want to use the Steam controller?
36:32
I don't know why you would want to do that, but you could
36:36
right now. I know Asus has theirs the rog ally which is Windoo.
36:42
Yeah, Windows eleven base uh ms I has got one uh the Claw which
36:47
they're they're they're really going up against there seemed to be going up against a
36:52
sus more than anything with their pricing battles. But I'm everything. Come on,
36:57
let's face it, everything is all going to be a fan. There's
37:00
also the Lenovo Legion Go I think it's called They Can Go. And then
37:07
there's a new one and I am so bad. I just read an article
37:10
about this. But there's a new company. I think it's called Platron or
37:15
something like that. Maybe Sean, you can look that up. But there's
37:16
a new company. They're releasing their own handheld to compete with a Steam Deck.
37:21
But here's the thing. They they actually invented their own OS. Oh
37:25
wow, So they they actually have full control over their platform and they're releasing
37:32
their OS available to other platforms. So if I have my Steam deck,
37:37
I can do the I can remember again the company Platron or something. I
37:42
can use their OS, and their OS allows complete utter support for everything,
37:49
Xbox game Pass, sideloading, emulators, whatever I want. It makes it
37:54
really nice to me because with a Steam Deck out the gate, I have
37:58
to do a little trickery to get those emulators to put on it, because
38:01
I got to get into the root of the Linux system. And I don't
38:05
like doing that. But this new play Torontos or whatever it's called, that's
38:09
supposed to make Steam shaking their boots. Uh, Sean, what did you
38:13
find out it's called? Oh, it is out of the park. It's
38:20
running its own flavor of Linux. I'm just quickly reading in our Technica article.
38:28
But again, it's it. It takes what Steam did right about the
38:32
Linux os right, and it also takes what Steam did wrong and makes it
38:37
better. Will it look better than my Atari? My arcade? Oh?
38:42
Yeah, just a little bit. Can you play Balder's Gate three on that
38:45
thing? No? No, I can play it on the Steam Deck.
38:47
All right, we're gonna take another quick break. We come back. We've
38:50
got more of tech talk Radio. A matter of fact, if you're thinking,
38:52
you know who's playing games? Justin you've come some pretty big numbers when
38:57
it comes to what people are doing? What what? What is the hobby
39:00
factor of video games? We'll do it when we come back with tech talk
39:04
Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm seon de BRD, and I'm justin.
39:07
Let me send us an x or formerly known as a tweet at tech talk
39:12
Radio. We'll be right back now back to cheap talk Radio. So There's
39:15
a company called Solitaire Bliss that recently went out and they surveyed a thousand Americans
39:22
about their hobbies, like what do they like to do? You know,
39:25
why do they like to do them? And then what are the best ones?
39:29
You know, like the cheapest versus the most expensive in things when it
39:31
comes to hobbies. When it comes to hobbies, yeah, I mean there's
39:35
some hobbies that are you know, easy, like reading books, you know,
39:37
and then there's hobbies like like disc golf that take up like thousands of
39:43
dollars of your money. And Sean can attest to that. No, yeah,
39:49
you oh my god. Now he's gonna go get his He's gonna go
39:53
he's gonna get one of his seven bags. He just got up and he's
39:58
coming back to the table an entire backpack full of discs. What do you
40:01
do with that? You play golf? Play disc golf. I don't even
40:06
know what that is. It's like frisbee golf. Oh really, I mean
40:09
that's what that's what the non you know players call it. But yeah,
40:13
I know it's there's another one. Yep, I know he did get Oh
40:19
my gosh, yeah, he's he's pretty big anyway, that's that's one hobby.
40:22
That's one hobby of a million, right, So there's other hobbies.
40:24
But what they found is that they found a couple you know, different key
40:28
findings. So video games, that's what I like to do. I like
40:30
to play video games. I also like to golf, you know, regular
40:32
golf, you know disc golf too, But video games ranks the eighth number,
40:38
number eighth hobby with the best bang for your buck in twenty twenty four.
40:44
Really now, I think because the time it takes no no, the
40:49
prices. Like ten years ago, you you had like your God of Wars
40:53
and your Halo's and you know, the Call of Duty's and stuff, the
40:58
big tripa A titles, and they're expensive, of I mean, they're you
41:00
know, fifty nine sixty nine dollars, seventy nine dollars. But now you're
41:05
finding this resurgence of indie games. And especially when I was talking about Steam
41:10
right with the PC or even game Pass really or whatever, you've got a
41:15
ton of indie developers that are making very cheap but very interesting games. You're
41:22
talking four dollars, nine dollars, fifteen dollars, and they're game and they're
41:27
good. I mean summer crap. But you know a lot of them are
41:30
good. I mean it's kind of like finding the diamond and the rough,
41:34
but you kind of rely on the review communities. Communities go out there and
41:37
they review these games and they're like, hey, for five dollars, you
41:40
can get this amazing game and then it entertains you for like three to four
41:45
hours. Bam, done for five bucks. Okay, So that's why they're
41:50
saying it's the best bang for your buck because you can find a lot of
41:52
interesting things out there that you normally wouldn't find. But also online gaming the
41:58
video game what right, online gaming We're not talking about like, you know,
42:01
online betting. We're talking about gaming online, right, Yeah, like
42:06
a call of duty or whatever, you know, things like that, right.
42:08
So then also video game developing, computer building, three D modeling and
42:14
printing, coding, robotics and esports, everything technology related. Those are all
42:21
in the top fifty hobbies with the best bang for your buck. Nice And
42:23
then they also said gamers spend on average of seventy one dollars and forty eight
42:30
cents a month on their passion, which makes it the eleventh most expensive hobby.
42:36
I can think about that like, if you're playing a game on your
42:38
phone that is got loot, you know, basically you get you want to
42:43
keep playing, You want to have better odds of being able to achieve a
42:46
level. You might have to spend a few bucks to be able to get
42:50
the tools to do it, or you don't and it just takes you a
42:52
little while to do it. Right. I hate that model of gaming.
42:55
I hate that pay to win. That's how companies though, like you know,
42:59
theeople behind the Yeah, that's how they made their that's how they They've
43:04
been huge billions billions. Yeah. Yeah. But they also say that the
43:08
average American devotes nine hours per week to their hobbies whatever. You know,
43:13
that may be right, Uh, stress relief is the number one desired outcome
43:17
for doing hot? Is that true? When you're when you're playing a game,
43:21
and you're especially an online game like Sean, you do a lot of
43:23
D and D and that type of stuff, don't doesn't your stress level go
43:28
up? No? I mean the fast. Actually, if I'm playing Hell
43:32
Divers, yeah yeah, my stress levels going up because I got to squash
43:36
those bugs. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean for D and D and
43:40
stuff, right, that's probably one of my bigger hobbies. Uh, that
43:45
doesn't stress me out. It's unless you're a dungeon master. Yeah, well
43:50
that's what I am, and I like I like the creative side of it.
43:52
I like to stress. I prefer to be a dungeon master instead of
43:55
a player. But because I get to kill players. If you don't like
44:02
them, squash you're dead. But no, it's I don't think it's crazy.
44:07
I mean, there are games that are stressful, but I mean I
44:13
can see what it really stressed me out. I can see what Andy said.
44:15
I mean, you think about those people you see on YouTube and stuff,
44:19
like people playing Call of Duty and they're just like, you know,
44:21
shouting expletives and throwing their controllers at the TV. Yeah, no, I
44:24
get I get what you're saying. Even that listener a few weeks back that
44:29
said her kid was throwing the controller and cussing like like is some something took
44:34
over his body? You know again that you know that could be just go
44:37
to just go to YouTube, and you're gonna find all sorts of rage quitting
44:42
people, yeah and stuff. And those are people that have other issues going
44:45
on. I mean seriously, I mean, yeah, yeah, but but
44:49
the but the final stat that they found, which this is interesting, is
44:52
they found that over half of the people, like fifty five abrought approximately fifty
44:55
five percent of the people agree that in inflation is making their hobbies less accessible
45:02
to them. Yeah, and that that is so true. Have you seen
45:05
that. Let's take golf for example. You want to get out, you
45:08
want to you know, shacket some balls at the golf course, you want
45:12
to play around? Uh? Is that more expensive than maybe it was five
45:15
years ago? Well, I would love to speak to that, but unfortunately
45:20
I work for a parks and rec district that I get free golf, So
45:22
I for that anymore. But no, no, no, yeah, no,
45:27
but enough about me. No, yes, it is. It is
45:31
getting more expensive. I mean, yeah, a bucket of balls to go
45:35
hit on the on the driving range, and and and the gas to get
45:37
there, you know or whatever. I mean, Yeah, it's it's more.
45:40
You want to stop at the clubhouse and get a sandwich, Yeah,
45:43
it's gonna be five dollars more expensive than it was five years ago. I
45:45
mean, yes, it is. It is good. I mean, as
45:49
a matter of fact, I actually went to Dunkin Donuts this past weekend.
45:52
I got six donuts, right, and two coffees, well lattes, yeah,
45:58
two lattes and six donuts. Okay, twenty seven dollars. It's ridiculous,
46:01
isn't it. I got to tell you. One of my friends on
46:06
social media went to Disneyland, took his kids to Disneyland. They was survived.
46:12
Well, I don't know. They went to go eat at Goofy's Kitchen,
46:15
which is a buffet style, and you've got the characters that come out,
46:20
and you know, they entertain you while you're eating and they have fun.
46:23
I'm not kiddney you. He showed me his receipt for it was eight
46:29
adults, two kids, and two infants. He had to sell kidney,
46:32
didn't he It was six hundred and something dollars good for dinner. Lord,
46:38
six hundred and something dollars. I think maybe forty eight dollars for six hundred
46:43
and forty eight for dinner. I can't. I can't even fathom that.
46:45
You know, he's ridiculous. Hey, he said. Even buying a corn
46:49
dog there was like thirty dollars. Yeah, he was like, it's just
46:52
crazy a card dog of all. I mean that, but but honestly,
46:55
I look at it, like and I've looked at it like this for years.
46:58
When my wife's like, why do you play video games? I'm like,
47:00
Okay, would you rather me go out to the club on a Friday
47:04
or Saturday night, or maybe go up to the casino or go to the
47:07
off track betting place. Like I look at it as look, I'm spending
47:12
sixty bucks now to give me entertainment for the next six months. Yeah,
47:16
that's true, that's true. Will you buy a game, You've got it
47:21
to play. You don't have to play pay every time you want to play
47:22
it. Yeah, no, you don't. Well usually, I mean there
47:25
are games like World of Warcraft that you have a monthly subscription, but if
47:30
you're not playing that, then yes, you own the game. You can
47:34
play whenever you want. And that's part of the reason why I bought the
47:37
Steam deck is because I just want to PLoP down in my chair play a
47:39
game for like an hour, because I barely get more than an hour at
47:43
a time, and Sean, good luck ever trying to find time to play
47:45
games a game with two kids. Yep, have you been there, record,
47:52
Yeah exactly. We were thankful you were able to. But have you
47:54
been able to get in some of the D and D stuff. No,
48:00
not since not since we went to the hospital when Cale got induced, I
48:02
haven't had a chance. Like we normally would play Wednesday nights once a week
48:08
for three hours, and it's just they don't have that kind of time right
48:12
now. And if I do get a time to play, it's like one
48:15
hour to play two things of hell Divers or Uh. It's just I gotta
48:20
pick what is gonna make me the most happy to play. Like I gotta
48:24
be very mindful of what I want to play or what I you know.
48:28
So it's just I gotta be I gotta pick and choose what I play.
48:31
Have have you since you've had Daniel, have you found a time to take
48:36
a shower? Because I can smell you from here though, I mean just
48:42
I'm just saying I could see I forgot You're I forgot You're supposed to do
48:45
that? Yeah, all right. So you you're talking about the value though
48:51
for gamers if you think about it, everything else has gone up, but
48:53
for gaming, you do get that that benefit. There is something that we
48:58
didn't even mention as Steam family sharing, which I just found out about.
49:02
So if you have now your your kids, your your boys are going to
49:06
grow up, Sean, They're gonna want to play all your games, especially
49:08
if you're on hand them down your library. Yeah you're on Steam. I
49:13
remember my kids used to play all the games that I had. But that's
49:15
the day where they would just install it and and play, or they'd all
49:17
play on my computer. But with Steam Family Sharing, if you had a
49:22
Steam game and maybe the kid wanted to play it on their device or on
49:25
their computer, it would kick you off if you were playing Steam. From
49:30
what I said, yeah, so you only want account per you know,
49:35
per use. So Valve is doing this with Steam Family Gaming, which is
49:38
great because using this idea that you get more value with games, they're making
49:43
it so you could share this infome nice. I mean, it's it's all
49:47
about right. So you've got my Parish generation they didn't really grow up with.
49:53
They might have had the Atari, oh yeah, early, very early
49:58
later in their years, right, And then you have my Justice. And
50:01
Justice is a little bit older and I am, but not too much older
50:04
and I am. And even his experience of gaming is different than mine.
50:07
Well, I grew up. I remember playing the uh the t I you
50:13
know, Texas instruments one before they came out with the Nintendo Entertainment There was
50:16
a Texas Instruments one. It was kind of like the Atari. Uh.
50:20
That was my first system, and then I went with the Nintendo Entertainment System.
50:23
The original Nest was my very first home. What was the first game,
50:30
Sewan that you remember? Playing Legends of Zelda. That was a good
50:35
one too. So just my mom when she was pregnant with me, was
50:38
obsessed with playing Legend of Zelda. Really so even hand even hand drew her
50:44
own map of the of the overworld. I knew where to go and one
50:51
yeah before yeah, so that's where I attribute my like straight out, I
50:57
was ready to play. The first game I ever played that I can remember
51:01
on a computer before, because this was before the Nintendo Entertainment System was a
51:06
game called jet boot Jack on the Commodore sixty four. Wow, it was
51:10
super super old. It was called jet boot Jack. And then I played
51:15
Zork, the original original zor Zork. Mine was Pong. Well, I
51:22
mean that was right around the same time. I mean Paul and the Commodore
51:25
sixty four and the Atari, you know, all that stuff that was right
51:29
around that time frame. One of the games though, that I had that
51:30
I spent a lot of time with was Interstate seventy six, and I just
51:36
absolutely love that game. That at Redneck Rampage where two of my favorite wapes
51:40
remind men Interstate seventy six, because literally I live a mile from I seventy
51:45
six. Do you really? Yeah, it was just it was a cartoonish
51:49
type game. I believe it was first person It's been so long, dude
51:55
since I've played this game. But that like a violent one or something.
51:59
Yeah, yeah, there were some aspects of violence in it, like red
52:01
Deck Ram Page uh, Burton Cummings. Uh. Burton Gilliam did one of
52:06
the voices in that with a get off my lan. You know, it's
52:09
just to it makes sense because I seventy six leads into the po dunk parts
52:13
of Colorado. So yeah, perfect, All right, listen, we got
52:15
to take another quick break. We come back with more of tech Talk Radio.
52:19
I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Deird and I'm justin let me and I
52:22
hope nobody from Podunk Colorado's listening to this show. We'll be right back and
52:28
now fact to tech Talk Radio. I have a question for Sean. All
52:31
right, Sean, I'm ready. What is a photo Bucket, and why
52:36
do they keep wanting to have me stop them from deleting my account? So
52:40
photo so we talked about this. We talked about this probably three months ago.
52:45
All right, photo Bucket said, we're going to a subscription based thing.
52:51
All your photos are going to be deleted. Uh. I used I
52:54
used photo Bucket like in high school, so late two thousands. So I
53:00
was like, oh man, I should go and check and see like what
53:02
it's on there. So then they're like, subscribe for five dollars a month
53:07
to get your photos back. Oh my god, they're holding a ransom.
53:10
They're holding them ransom. So I paid the five dollars. Yeah, what
53:15
did you have in the worthless? It was garbage, stuff that I had
53:17
backed up. It was junk. It was stuff that I basically had like
53:22
uploaded to like MySpace or other blogs or you know, live journal or whatever.
53:28
Just but I needed a place to drop the photos in to host them
53:30
right right, So it was just me. It was worthless. Oh boy.
53:34
So just then, then, like every other human being that exists,
53:37
I forgot to cancel it. Oh no, But then I got an email
53:43
the next month, thanks for paying five dollars for your photo Bucket subscription.
53:47
Well at least they were nice enough to do that. But now, yeah,
53:52
since I've deleted it. I deleted, I said, I don't care
53:54
anymore. Get rid of my photos. I don't care. Yeah, now
53:57
they're every day. Oh yeah, it's crazy. Your photos are gonna be
54:00
deleted. Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. I don't care. I deleted my
54:05
cow go away, block and delete, block and delete. It's just like
54:10
it's just going you know, I get it. It's not cheap the host
54:14
stuff on the internet. With prices going up, it costs money for bandwidth
54:16
and stuff, and there's a lot of a lot of inactive accounts, right
54:21
right, But to go to a subscription model after having a free service for
54:24
so long, that's just a kick in the pants, right It's it's it's
54:28
really frustrating as an end user, and it's unfortunately a growing trend in the
54:35
in the in the computer world. I've been using Adobe Master Suite for forever.
54:39
I loved it, right, and now I'm starting to get the notices
54:43
this is no longer supported. They'll let me keep using it, but it's
54:46
like I have to get this message every day. So I thought, okay,
54:50
what do I want to do? I want to up, if I
54:52
want to update. It's gonna cost me almost seventy dollars a month for me
54:57
to have all of the programs. They don't let you buy the software anymore,
55:00
which is a shame, although if you want to, if you want
55:02
to get a software for audio editing or anything like that, you can find
55:07
alternatives. There's a ton of open source ones. It's something to think about.
55:09
All right. Well, that's it for this week's show. Thank you,
55:13
Thank you for being here. Sean. I know it's a little sleep
55:15
for you, so now you can go to bed. I'm going I'm literally
55:16
going upstairs right into bed, all right, and justin, you can sleep
55:21
in your Bucky shirt today to show you your loyalty. I'm Andy Taylor,
55:24
I'm trying to wear and I'm justin. Let me once again find us on
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