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Shoe0nHead Realizes the Left's Man Problem? Part 2 | Maintaining Frame 67 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome on Honeybadge Radio. My name is Brian. I'm
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  here with Alison and this is maintaining frame number sixty seven. We're basically continuing
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  the video from yesterday. She went ahead realizes the Left's man problem. So
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  I guess, yeah, I guess. I mean, I don't know.
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  She's just sort of reacting like, oh that's bad or you know, but
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  not I don't know. I don't know what her suggestions are. I forget
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  if she even made suggestions for like what to do. But I guess we
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  will we will find out. So again, Lindsay is home today, so
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  Jojo is not here, So no Jojo Cam. I'm sorry, guys.
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  I guess we're just not going to get as many donations last one. No,
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  no, no, Actually, actually I will say this. I don't
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  know if it's because of the subject matter, because we were responding to Shoe
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  and we're and look, I just got out of a meeting with x Y
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  Crew. So I go to x Y Crew meeting. It's something that Paul
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  Elim set up. You want to check it out, Go look up x
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  Y Crew on a subscribe star and you basically there's meetings you can meet with
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  Paul and Janice, Fia Mango and others. It's just zoom meetings, right,
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  And I was just talking to the guys in there, and I asked
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  them if they saw Shoe what it has video because I told him I had
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  to leave to talk about it. And they were immediately going on a kind
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  of like you know, oh, you know, I thought it was really
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  good, Like, you know, if Shoe, I don't, I don't
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  have any you know, I think she's okay, blah blah blah. And
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  I was like, guys, I'm not attacking her. Like I didn't even
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  start to do that. I was like, I think that people just think
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  that because we're responding to something, we're gonna be attacking whoever it is,
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  right. I remember, well, I think that, you know, you
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  see the title, and I think people think, oh, we're you know,
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  we're gonna start a fight. We're not looking for drama. Never we're
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  looking for drama, Okay. But like I think this because I remember this
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  other thing. Do you remember when we had Greg Ellis on our show.
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  Greg Ellis is the actor who was friends with Johnny Depp, worked with him
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  on Pirates of the Caribbean and I remember his name, and you were there.
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  You talked to him too, Yeah, you and I both talked to
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  him, and he thought he thought we were He was a bit on the
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  defensive at first because he thought we were like gonna come after him because we
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  responded to something else that he was on prior to that. And I mean,
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  I think we can be critical, but I don't. I didn't have
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  anything against Greg Ellis. I was happy that he was talking about this stuff,
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  you know, And I feel the same way about Shoe. It's not
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  I'm not you know, I'm not. I'm not mad at her at all.
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  I never said anything, but for some reason, yeah, there were
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  people coming after So guys, no issue, no issue, there's all right.
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  Sometimes when we're dealing with feminists, the sheer amount of smug fakery coming
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  off of them makes you a little piquant in your language, shall we say,
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  Yeah, I'm very vulnerable to smug smugness. Smugness is is uh Yeah,
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  it's like it's like it's like lemon juice on a on a wound,
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  on a paper cut. You know, it's like not not fun. But
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  I think I think mostly though, because there was a little bit of caping
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  for Shoe, but I think mostly it was directed at the chat because people
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  in the chat and people were sending a super child's yesterday, which totally appreciate.
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  It was really great. Uh, they were pretty critical, but I
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  mean, so what, you have a right to be critical. Yeah,
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  but I'm also I don't recall them being critical in a way that isn't appropriate,
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  Like right, No, I agree. I think that people were just
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  like, you know, your ideas out there, you should expect them to
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  be critiqued, not just accept it or or yeah, go ahead, I'm
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  sorry. Well, I mean the other thing was that someone mentioned the altercation
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  that I got into with Shoe and Head about Memorial Oh, Memorial Day.
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  We didn't even bring that up, no point, but I'll bring it up
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  now since someone else did. What happened was I was making a point that
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  when we stopped recognizing the unique sacrifices that men make to society, we are
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  going to lose the benefit of those sacrifices. And I think that we're sort
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  of seeing that play out right now in a big way. I think a
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  lot of people in twenty twenty, if may maybe we're pushing back on what
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  I'm saying In twenty nineteen. I don't think they are as much anymore,
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  because you cannot defend the influence of masculinity on society without recognizing the sacrifices made
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  by men. And if you don't defend the influence of masculinity on society,
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  you lose the benefit of the virtues of the masculine. And I think that's
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  what we're really seeing. We're seeing a society that's ruled more by fear,
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  and the men have a higher tolerance for fear. Therefore, a society that
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  has more of their influence in it won't be as controlled by fear and will
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  be as controlling because of fear. So I mean that was what I meant.
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  If you don't recognize the unique sacrifices of men, in particular in war,
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  because this is where it really comes out, then you will lose your
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  society. You're just gonna it's gonna end up deteriorating. And that was the
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  point I was making. She misunderstood it as me attacking. I think Halsey
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  Gathered. Maybe no, is that that's that's weird. Tolsi Gather is the
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  from Hawaii and she's she was She is a veteran and a Democrat, but
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  or something like it was. I pointed out that a whole bunch of people
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  were thanking the women and men without recognizing the uniquely male. And we're not
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  talking about Veterans Day, we're talking about Memorial Day. It's an important distinction.
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  Yeah, okay, So I just tweeted out, Yeah, this person
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  hasn't recognized that. This is like what ninety nine percent mail? This person
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  hasn't recognized it. This person and I just so happened to hit I guess
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  a leftist a left icon, and she was like, yeah, she says
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  a lot of stupid things, but thanking the veterans and thanking the veterans,
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  Yeah, it was the veterans on Memorial Day. And I'm like, no,
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  but that wasn't what I would I had nothing to do with right or
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  left, because I was pointing that out. The right and the left both
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  do it. And then her her fans sort of descended on the tweet,
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  and at some point she realized what I had been saying, because Karen spoke
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  to her, not not like through Twitter, and at that point it's like,
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  what can you do? I mean, you have to realize that when
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  you got a big platform you will have a bunch of Okay, I'm gonna
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  say, simps who will be like, you're flying monkeys, even if you
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  don't want them to be Yeah, right, hell so even if she's like,
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  yeah, oh wait, wait, you're right, I made the mistake.
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  Yeah, it's not what you meant. It's it's almost impossible to stop
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  at that point. So it's like, I don't even hold it against her.
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  She made a mistake. Unfortunately in the position that she's in that means
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  she has a lot of flying monkeys. Yeah, well she is. Yeah,
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  she's very popular. I mean people like came from all over to see
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  her when we were at VIDCN so. But I mean sometimes, you know,
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  you just kind of blow up overnight. I mean, she's still popular.
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  It's it's cool. Like I said, I don't have anything against her,
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  and I completely forgot about that Veterans Day thing. I probably would have
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  a Memorial Day fan, but I mean, you know, it is what
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  it is. But that was I think that at the end of the day,
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  what I'm trying to get at is, despite that, I think what
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  All right, but let's get into the video because everything else now we're ready
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  to get into this. So let's we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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  She was starting another little segment of her video called pull Yourself Up by
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  your ball sacks, and yes, we'll need one. That's very clever.
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  By the way, it's both low brow and a musing Could you put your
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  Oh yeah, yeah, I gotta share my screen. Yeah, I'm sorry,
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  Hold on a second, otherwise I'm gonna be listening into the boyd.
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  You're You're not gonna hear or see anything, and I'm just gonna have to
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  translate all right, hopefully in semaphore. I'll do No, I'm gonna do
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  sign language, which, of course you also won't be able to see.
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  Keller here, Yeah, let me know when you're ready, and I'll start
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  the video. All right, here we go. It's all systemic issues and
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  societal factors and blah blah blah until it's a man, and then suddenly it's
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  pull yourselves up by your bootstraps. This problem is just a consequence of the
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  patriarchy. Now take wild guess about which gender created the patriarchy. Solve your
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  own problems and leave women alone. These people will rightly mock the bootstraps rhetoric
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  until the subject is a man and then yes, no, no, that's
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  that's basically just a way of it's just an excuse that society is is amazingly
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  a society that's exists for the benefit of men at the expensive women. Has
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  this really really common excuse for how why we don't have to care about men's
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  problems. It's almost like they conscripted this entire narrative about patriarchy so they didn't
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  have to care about men's problems. It's almost like they actually do believe that
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  the bootstraps mentality does have some validity, but only when it applies to men.
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  Yeah, only when it applies to men. And if a man does
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  successfully bootstrap himself, he's then privileged by society. He's privileged. Yeah,
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  obviously it's the only way he could have pulled it off, exactly do it
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  all by himself. But once he does do it, it was society that
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  did it for him. Like this is maddening, isn't it? And you
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  know, I'm not even a man. What makes this maddening to me is
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  that I can't stand watching people be gaslighted. Yeah, like it's just like
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  okay, or put in Catch twenty twos, like or lied about you know,
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  it's I mean, I think it's just an aspect of my autism.
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  Perhaps, I just I can't stand. It's like, no, no,
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  wait, stop, you're making a lie. That's not impossible that you're not
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  allowed to do that. No, that's lies. Lies. They're wrong,
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  and the rest of society for some reason exists on lies. But I can't
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  I can't even. Yeah, just I get it, I get it.
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  Yeah, all right, let's keep going. And it's bootstraps all the way
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  down. They would never talk about any other group this way. It's watch
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  you know. You know what's funny is that if you just encourage me in
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  and like celebrated them just for like what they do, or even just for
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  who they are as men, just they're being they're bootstrapping powers would probably go
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  through the roof, they'd be it'd be over nine thousand and yet we're not.
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  We're basically shitting all over them, and they're somehow managing to persevere anyway.
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  M Yeah, that's what they're really irritating about. The weak men make
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  up weak societies or whatever that that that weak men make hard times. Yes,
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  that one. What really irritating is that we're shitting all over men,
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  and they're still carrying everything, like there's there's not just carrying society. And
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  even the guys who never leave their mom's basement, they're carrying society's shame.
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  They're carrying society's emotional trash trash bucket, and and they still insist in seeing
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  men as weak. Really, I don't see weak men. I see I
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  see a group of people that is profoundly weak and cowardly, but it's not
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  men. So it's like, I can't I how strong do men have to
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  be? I mean, they're not just carrying the work that needs to get
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  done to keep society moving. They're carrying all of the unattended emotional baggage that
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  our society just refuses to look at and deal with. Yeah, as its
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  scapegoats, Like it just shoves it all onto men and boys. Right,
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  you know, the Disney Corporation doesn't have to take responsibility for its racist wage
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  structure. That's that's the white the white man that did it. Yeah,
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  that's the system. No, seriously, that was that was a moment.
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  I was just looking at this. I was like, really, is this
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  where we're at? The Disney Corporation had a work place seminar teaching white workers,
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  specifically white male workers, how they were responsible for the wage gap.
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  I'm like, Disney Corporation. Couldn't Disney just raise people's wages if they have
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  a problem with it, or are you just are you just paying people based
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  on what they're the value they bring to the company, And things are just
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  shaking out in an uncomfortable an inconvenient way. They're blaming they're white. I
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  know, I know, I know, I know. But I'm saying,
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  if those men are making more money, maybe they're better at the job.
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  That's what I'm saying. But instead they don't they don't accept that they have
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  to blame. And you know, one of the things it might not be
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  it might not be Disney Corporation because there's a lot of there's a problem with
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  consulting firms that tend to be run by feminist women that go into companies and
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  they start throwing blame at people and getting people fired and stuff like there was
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  it's yeah, it's it's consulting, d ei, et cetera. Like all
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  of this stuff. It's it's coming from women. It's coming from women.
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  Yes, okay, yeah, no it is. And but also like the
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  overall point is that this narrative puts the blame on the worker rather than the
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  corporation that's making the decisions. And I noticed that that's really damn convenient.
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  I mean, you know, the communists and the socialists might want to take
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  note of that, but they don't seem to, because I seriously wonder if
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  that's what it's about. Eventually, we should we should, we should go
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  through flames that We had a commentator on the first show, like his response
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  about about how he doesn't recognize this communism he's a Russian. Yeah it doesn't.
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  Yeah, because I found it really interesting because it's something that I mentioned
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  as well. Yeah, well these people don't. Never mind, let's just
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  keep going. Both sides are telling men to pull themselves up by their food
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  straps. But one is like, I'll show you how, and the other
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  is like and when they're not telling men to straight up, they're giving the
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  two hundred IQ answer that nobody has ever heard before. Just show your emotions,
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  bro. And I'm not dismissing this problem, okay. I've made videos
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  talking about this. Oh you're crying at your grandfather's funeral, okay. And
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  studies have shown that men are scared to be vulnerable even around the homeies.
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  Yeah, I hope that she was nothing. I'm just preparing for whatever is
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  coming next because she said she's talked about this on her videos, and I
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  think, I mean, toxic masculinity is like, that is the bug that
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  gets up my ass when I hear about it. Of all of the feminist
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  talking points, that is to me the most poisonous. So that's the real
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  I'm just bracing myself because it's a very easy thing. Or a woman who
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  has a womanly way of viewing the world in a womanly way of healing and
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  dealing with struggles and suffering and then looking at the way men do it and
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  saying they're not doing it right, because that's ultimately what this comes down to.
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  And you've already made a video about how men's way of healing is probably
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  better. So but anyway, let's let's see. Okay, Yes, men
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  should be able to express their emotions, or at least they should be able
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  to express their issues. All right, that's not allowed in our society,
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  and yes we should call out the fact that it isn't allowed. I just
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  wonder where she's going to go with this, because she said that the left
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  tells men to just show their emotions. Yeah, I have never seen a
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  man show his emotions without a leftist there or a feminist there to mock him
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  for having done so. Yep, all right, let's see what she show
• 23:41
  your emotions so we can have a laugh, bro, Yeah, exactly can
• 23:45
  you blame them when the medias has stupid like this? Fellas UK builders go
• 23:49
  woke set. He finds three quarters of tradesmen discussed their feelings with colleagues,
• 23:53
  while two thirds shunned the fried breakfasts, and nearly half say they are history
• 23:57
  buffs. That that sounds like a I don't think is it woke to open
• 24:03
  up to your fellow men and discuss history? Men are socialized to believe.
• 24:07
  Here, okay, first of all, the mask you live in feminist literature
• 24:15
  or feminist literature on the man box. Although interestingly, the professor Michael Kimmel,
• 24:22
  who perpetrator, per perpetuated, perpetuates, perpetuates, created the whole concept
• 24:30
  of the man box, was not unaware of evidence like there were other students
• 24:37
  who attempted to replicate his findings and were unable to. I don't even know
• 24:42
  if he had findings he just had assertions, but they tended to make his
• 24:47
  assertions realitize, and they didn't because they found out that men who actually adhere
• 24:56
  to traditional notions of masculinity are more likely to a report opening up to their
• 25:00
  friends and being able to cry in front of their friends. So there you
• 25:04
  go, Like men who identify with more less masculine traits, who are perhaps
• 25:11
  more feminist, do not feel like they can actually express their feeling. And
• 25:15
  you know what, I am not surprised because once again, whenever the people
• 25:19
  on the left and feminists are like, oh, oh, why don't you
• 25:22
  open up, bro, how quickly after he does do they start mocking the
• 25:27
  crap out of him? Well, I mean we already saw when somebody not
• 25:32
  even advocating for themselves, but like for men in general, was like,
• 25:36
  well we should probably like to deal with this crisis of masculinity, and it
• 25:41
  was just a NonStop shit fest. So yeah, of course, why would
• 25:44
  men do that to themselves? And it's and also like if they're not doing
• 25:48
  it with their friends or at least the studies are saying that, how do
• 25:52
  we know? Like what does it even mean when a third party is trying
• 25:56
  to get a record of when men express themselves to other men, when everyone's
• 26:00
  concept of how people should express themselves is based on women, Well, yeah,
• 26:04
  that's is why don't you express your feelings? Does that mean actually express
• 26:10
  men's feelings about stuff? Or does it mean why don't you just become a
• 26:12
  woman? Bro? Yeah? Like why don't you deact like a woman?
• 26:17
  Like you don't? We I'm telling you ask We gotta watch Midsummer because that
• 26:21
  that movie encapsulates what I'm talking about in terms of how women emote. And
• 26:26
  when you see I don't want to the movies messed up, man, but
• 26:30
  like when you see it, it makes sense. It's kind of it's a
• 26:33
  little heightened and exaggerated. I'm not saying this is how women are, but
• 26:37
  it's it is put in in a way that that sort of says, Like
• 26:41
  when I watch it, I'm disturbed because I'm a man and that's not how
• 26:44
  I express myself. It doesn't mean I don't express myself. It doesn't mean
• 26:47
  I'm a robot, but it means that the way that I do it,
• 26:49
  it's just different. You know. Like I cry to the phone my father
• 26:52
  the other day because I hadn't talked to in a long time and I missed
• 26:56
  him, but like, I'm not I'm not gonna do whatever. Where it
• 27:00
  is that feminists want men to do that would be sufficient, because that's what
• 27:04
  it comes down to, right, sufficient and satisfactory to their particular feelings about
• 27:11
  what it should look like, like, oh, I want men to express
• 27:12
  themselves, and when they do, it's like, well, you're not really
• 27:15
  not really doing it, are you? You know? So yeah, well
• 27:21
  it's basically what we really meant was that we wanted you to express feminist sentiments,
• 27:26
  yeah, you know, and not actual feelings about your situation, because
• 27:30
  we don't have no interest in your situation and how it affects you. We
• 27:34
  just want you to express feminist sentiments and that's what we mean. Would say,
• 27:41
  why don't you just demote bro and somehow by expressing feminist sentiments like these
• 27:45
  guys are, which is basically all other men are shit, all men are
• 27:49
  shit, then suddenly men are relieved of their need to care about their own
• 27:56
  emotions. Yes, and you know, another thing too, is that men
• 28:02
  don't like I just spoke to a guy who does who's working on you know,
• 28:07
  he made a book, Phil I don't want to forgetting his name.
• 28:11
  But I spoke to him just on Friday and he was saying, you know,
• 28:12
  the way men are not interested in simply expressing emotions, they want to
• 28:17
  solve problems. So again, is that also a problem. I think it
• 28:22
  is like feminists are complaining, Oh men, they don't want to they don't
• 28:23
  want to express him though, they just want to fix things. Well,
• 28:26
  yeah, I don't want to get on with it. Almost like feminism doesn't
• 28:30
  want to fixing. Yeah, it's almost like feminism doesn't want to fix things.
• 28:33
  Shout out to Rumble Gang, Rumble Gang, where are you at?
• 28:38
  And I got a super I got another super Chow cool from Bun for Bun
• 28:45
  for five bucks. And they say, I remember watching you and Karen whilst
• 28:48
  I was in university. Helped me through some dark times. Probably means my
• 28:52
  original channeling. Yeah, I'm sure that it's not about me and Karen.
• 28:59
  Yeah, specify next time, because it's not not necessari No, it's it's
• 29:03
  it's okay, it's okay. I know that's why people watch. I mean,
• 29:07
  it's fine, it doesn't bother it doesn't bother me. Okay, somebody's
• 29:15
  asking me where you enter the message for the super Chow oh, I guess
• 29:21
  you should tell them. Yeah, why is this not showing up? What
• 29:25
  the hell? Okay, what's going on here? No? I think it's
• 29:32
  the next one. What? No, I think this is. This is
• 29:37
  Mike. He's having difficulty figuring out how where to put the message. Yeah.
• 29:41
  And for what I'm seeing is are the fields? Are the fields not
• 29:45
  clearly laid out? Yeah? And I have nothing in the description. Uh,
• 29:52
  let me see well? Oh shit? Oh wait, wait wait,
• 29:56
  I think it's the next It should be the next page. Maybe let me
• 30:03
  let me just Okay, let's let's watch some more. Okay, all right,
• 30:10
  let's let's watch some more. Here we go history. Men are socialized
• 30:12
  to believe strength, dominance, and stoicism are behaviors of a real man.
• 30:18
  Is it any surprise that men are lonely and have less friends? Nowadays?
• 30:21
  You have to be vulnerable to make friends. Don't tell me there aren't systemic
• 30:25
  problems affecting men. This is Hunter avalone. So an interesting story about Hunter.
• 30:32
  I went to myth Con in twenty eighteen, I think, and I
• 30:37
  went there with my wife. It was in Michigan, and I went to
• 30:41
  myth Con because a lot of people were there and I wanted to check it
• 30:45
  out. I got to meet I mean, Carl was there, and Blair
• 30:48
  White was there, and Thare and Meyer was there. This was like before
• 30:52
  there and kind of fell off, so think about like that timing. And
• 30:55
  they were talking about a bunch of different issues. And I ran it to
• 30:59
  a Hunter there because it was like a party or something like at a hotel.
• 31:02
  It was a big get together, and I got to meet Lauren Chen,
• 31:04
  who I interviewed on the show before. You guys might know her as
• 31:07
  Lauren Chann or Romi Millennial. Anyway, at the time, Hunter was a
• 31:12
  kind of a right wing commentator, right and he made these funny videos.
• 31:15
  But then he hooked up with Vosh. I actually have Hunter's phone number in
• 31:19
  my phone. He started talking to Vouch and then he like completely flipped,
• 31:23
  and then I realized that he didn't really have convictions to begin with. So
• 31:29
  I think it's really hilarious because like I think that even when what he was
• 31:33
  doing before was clearly just kind of shallow, and he was like, oh,
• 31:37
  this looks like it makes you know, like I can get a lot
• 31:40
  of followers and subs. And he did that for a while and then he
• 31:42
  switched and now I think he's even bigger because it kind of tells you like
• 31:45
  what the general you know, his like audience likes. But this comment is
• 31:52
  ridiculous. Men are socialized, So first we have to assume that everyone is
• 31:56
  socialized into everything, and then nothing is now ural or biological or evolved to
• 32:01
  believe strength, dominance, and stoicism are the behaviors of a real man.
• 32:06
  Is it any surprise that men are lonely and have less friends? Nowadays you
• 32:10
  have to be vulnerable to make friends. Well, how about this hunter?
• 32:14
  Here's something Okay, I was just watching a video today and I'm sorry for
• 32:17
  all the diversions, but I gotta make this point. Jordan Peterson interviewed a
• 32:23
  woman. I'm gonna look it up on my history really quick because I don't
• 32:29
  want to get her name wrong. No, that's not that's not it.
• 32:35
  He interviewed a woman who is I think he's describing her. Oh yeah,
• 32:39
  it's a video called when should the Sexes? Sorry, when should the Sexes
• 32:44
  have their own spaces? Helen Joyce? And it was about Helen Joyce is
• 32:50
  a feminist, okay, but a turf type of feminist. Right and day,
• 32:53
  we're talking about like women's spaces and how they want to preserve women's spaces,
• 33:00
  and Peterson's wife Tammy, said, well, why, I mean,
• 33:06
  what happened in men's spaces? Like, well, if men are going into
• 33:09
  women's spaces, maybe it's because men don't have spaces of their own. And
• 33:14
  the woman may try to make an argument against her. She was like,
• 33:16
  well, when men make spaces of their own, you know, it's like
• 33:20
  they're like these rich, powerful men and they have these secret meetings and they're
• 33:23
  they're kind of deciding the future of the country. And I think women should
• 33:27
  be involved in that. And of course I thought that is the fucking stupidest
• 33:30
  thing. Like basically she thinks many together, it's the stonecutters from the Simpsons.
• 33:35
  That's the only instance. Like there's literally like stonemason, a Stonemason,
• 33:40
  like I don't know what you call it, a lodge or whatever, right
• 33:45
  by my house. Okay, that's not the problem. The problem is is
• 33:50
  that men are not allowed to gather anywhere without female oversight. So like they
• 33:55
  can't they can't go to a school with just men because women have to be
• 34:00
  there. They can't have boys clubs anymore because they get dismantled. I used
• 34:06
  to being a boys club when I was a little kid. Those don't exist
• 34:07
  anymore. The YMCA is literally like the young male something something right the boy
• 34:14
  scouts. Nope, the girls can join that. Now. Men have no
• 34:16
  spaces and when and when the only place that's left is like online spaces like
• 34:22
  forums, then you get people like Laura Base. I want to break that
• 34:25
  up too. So why are men not making friends with men? Oh?
• 34:30
  I don't know, Hunter, Maybe they're not allowed to hang out with each
• 34:32
  other. Maybe they're not allowed to do anything without female oversight. Maybe they
• 34:37
  can't go to recess because they've ended recess because it makes men I don't know
• 34:40
  whatever. Right, they're not focused on reading the Charlotte's Web for the tenth
• 34:45
  time. Male friendships? Why are they in pieces? Yeah? Exactly like
• 34:50
  and so Hunters, it's it's stupid, Like this is just stupid, you
• 34:55
  know. And I'm I'm like, uh wrong, I mean, I'm just
• 35:01
  like I can't stand these arguments because you have to be vulnerable to make friends.
• 35:07
  This bullshit like I have. I have friends that I've had for decades
• 35:12
  and I've never come to them weeping and asking for friendship like we just click
• 35:17
  because we share common interests, because we share beliefs, because we we you
• 35:22
  know, we're like of a similar generation, we have the same experiences.
• 35:28
  That's it like, it's it's it's not hard. It we don't need a
• 35:31
  cry session. Hunter. That's not how friendships work. I mean, like,
• 35:36
  maybe I don't know how it is for women, but I I what
• 35:38
  I do know is that female friendships are quicker to start, but quicker to
• 35:42
  break up too. So you know, I think male friendships that you may
• 35:45
  not have as many, but you'll have them for longer. They seem to
• 35:47
  be more I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Let me know what you
• 35:51
  guys like, your experience in the comments is that they tend to bond a
• 35:55
  lot more with a shared goal or shared yeah, and it's one that you
• 36:00
  know, it might be more transient, but they get something social out of
• 36:05
  it. And I don't think we even like we're so ignorant of men's particular
• 36:10
  psychology that we don't even know how to categorize that friendships or the kind of
• 36:19
  sociality that pros you know, sociology that comes out of a shared goal.
• 36:23
  And we don't really have no literature around that, and it's a fact that
• 36:29
  nobody cares what sense of well being. They just treat We just treat men
• 36:34
  like broken women like in every instance. Yeah, and they're not. They're
• 36:39
  their own thing. I mean, they're not their own sporties, but they're
• 36:43
  their own thing, their own legitimate thing. Yeah, And that's that's the
• 36:47
  real fear a lot of people have, is that their men are their own
• 36:52
  legitimate thing. You know, they have their And if you want to such
• 36:57
  a functional society, you can't just appeal to women. You can't just promote
• 37:00
  women's virtues. You have to also recognize the things that men want in a
• 37:06
  society. Okay, I mean ultimately, like people understand this when it comes
• 37:12
  to consumer goods to a degree. They usually a lot of them seem to
• 37:15
  shame men for not liking the things that they tell them to like. But
• 37:20
  society is the same way. At some point, a society has to voluntarily
• 37:24
  get commitment from its members, male and female. And if you have nothing
• 37:30
  there for men, your society is not going to have a future. Okay,
• 37:37
  So I mean it's like that, it's just and men have their own
• 37:42
  way of being this perfectly with women and valid and in my opinion, there's
• 37:47
  a lot more. There's a lot more social pressure against men being allowed to
• 37:52
  be what they are then there is. I don't even think there is towards
• 37:58
  women in a lot of ways. Like social pressure that women have is usually
• 38:01
  to conform to how they incentivize men's behavior. So they have this quote unquote
• 38:07
  sisterhood which is very jealous of women responding to men in a certain way that
• 38:15
  ensures they get men resources from men, attention, money, whatever it is
• 38:20
  they want, what they feel that they're owed. So the sister who forces
• 38:24
  women to conform to whatever strategy they have for extracting resources from men. And
• 38:31
  that's a pressure on to force women to conform. And of course feminists don't
• 38:37
  want to talk about that, but I don't think that it's like the legitimacy
• 38:42
  of female being is almost a given. It's men who have to be accepted
• 38:47
  as they are and seen as valuable as they are. They're very few,
• 38:52
  it seems like they're very very few actual like belief systems that are just like,
• 38:58
  yeah, you know, men are good. No, Nope, nope,
• 39:00
  nope, they're good. You know, yeah, they're decent as they
• 39:05
  are. You know that doesn't mean that you necessarily don't want to get better,
• 39:10
  but you know, it's it's the male raw materials that allow the the
• 39:15
  a lot of society to be built. It's the risk tolerance, the tolerance
• 39:20
  of discomfort and all of that other stuff. It's very critical, you know,
• 39:23
  and there's very little recognition of the value of that because I think in
• 39:27
  a lot of ways it has to come for women, and women struggle.
• 39:34
  They struggle with this idea of the other. Like women, a lot of
• 39:37
  women struggle with this idea that there is something that they are not for whatever
• 39:43
  reason, which is why one of the big things about feminism seems to be,
• 39:50
  well, men are okay if they become women or try to ape women.
• 39:52
  Yeah, all right, let's let's keep let's keep going. I just
• 39:59
  want I just want to to make the statement that like if men are not
• 40:01
  if men are not allowed to, you know, come together and hang out
• 40:07
  with each other without women, because women change the dynamic and they can't do
• 40:12
  that anywhere. The military, they can't do it anywhere. So if they
• 40:15
  can't, and they struggle to form real bonds. Because I think that the
• 40:20
  secret to men being more comfortable around women is for them to be more comfortable
• 40:27
  around themselves and men first, And there's a lot of work we have to
• 40:30
  do in those departments. At least part of that is getting the fuck out
• 40:34
  of the way so that men can do that. So now, well,
• 40:37
  a lot of this may be true. Men have been socialized this way for
• 40:40
  centuries, and this is a little relatively a new phenomena. I don't think
• 40:45
  it. I don't think they're socialized. I don't like that that that argument,
• 40:51
  it's they evolved that way. Well, let's put it this way,
• 40:53
  Brian. She could be referring to the fact that men have been socialized now
• 40:58
  to be suspicious of each other, of the relationships with each other. I
• 41:00
  don't think she's saying that. I think she's agreeing with Hunter's statement that men
• 41:05
  are socialized to be stowicken and competitive and dominant and violent and rape and all
• 41:09
  that. Like, you know, there is there is a legitimacy to the
• 41:15
  to men's psychology that comes out of their biological reality, like and not all
• 41:22
  the stuff is not necessarily socialized. But I think that if we look at
• 41:25
  the evidence, the men who are socialized to break their own relationships are the
• 41:30
  ones who are more feminists, and it's obvious, like you look at look
• 41:37
  at the stuff that you guys were saying at the beginning. All these all
• 41:40
  the other men are terrible, are or are like they all don't want relationships
• 41:45
  with other men. They don't like other men. They take their sense of
• 41:49
  value from throwing other men into the bus. And then you wonder where when's
• 41:52
  relationships went. Well, you remember the jubilee thing and the way the male
• 41:58
  feminist behaves versus the man non feminists or whatever like that. That's that's it
• 42:04
  right there, right the male, the male. It's like the attitude that
• 42:06
  the male feminists have is one of opposition, and it's actually where this competitive
• 42:12
  ship that Hunter's talking about is coming from. But that's not how normal men
• 42:16
  are. Those are men that have been poisoned against other men. So that's
• 42:21
  what you're going to get. But think about it, people on the left,
• 42:23
  those are the men they see, yes, and I get that,
• 42:28
  but I think they need to, like, you know, go out and
• 42:30
  touch grass, meet real people, then jubilate video and I actually see how
• 42:36
  the men are acting feminists. Men are incredibly toxically competitive with other men.
• 42:40
  And listen to the men in your group when they start talking about how other
• 42:44
  men are terrible and how they don't want to associate with them, and how
• 42:47
  they're they're throwing other men in the bus in order to gain some kind of
• 42:52
  value in your group left leftist feminists. And then you ask where the men's
• 42:58
  friendship's goal they went. With every single insult a male feminist makes about other
• 43:04
  men, every single degrading remark that a male fetistmist makes about other men and
• 43:09
  his relationships to other men, that's where they went. And he can go
• 43:14
  and look at that jubilee anti feminist versus feminist men, go and look at
• 43:17
  the behavior of feminist men. The behavior of feminist men is unbelievably toxically competitive.
• 43:25
  Like one was basically talking about all of the all of the victim groups
• 43:30
  and the women like Pokemon that he acquired badges on his fricking scout dash,
• 43:37
  and then the other one was talking about how he's the guard dog against all
• 43:40
  of those other other male dogs they're sniffing around. His family is female relatives,
• 43:46
  And then the other one was basically talking about how his morality has nothing
• 43:51
  to do with his relationship with other men or his masculinity. It's entirely a
• 43:55
  heroic individual effort that he constructed on his part. You see, he was
• 44:00
  the first man they didn't ever invented not wanting to rape women, you see.
• 44:04
  You know, so it's just is his heroic battle against his own dark
• 44:08
  masculine impulses. And they're all like, just this icon, like this measthma
• 44:15
  of the worst part of masculinity. And they're all feminist men showing them.
• 44:21
  You look at the nonforminist men, they're like, yeah, I think men
• 44:23
  should have space to feel things and talk about their issues. I think that
• 44:27
  men are are you know, I have male friends. We get along,
• 44:30
  really enjoy each other's company, we talk about things. You know. They
• 44:34
  were just calm and normal and not hyped up on this super competitiveness with other
• 44:38
  right. Yeah, and they weren't. They weren't like dude growing it up
• 44:42
  or whatever stereotypes feminists think men do. Like, there was none of that
• 44:46
  that The stereotypes that the leftists are talking about one hundred percent apply the leftist
• 44:52
  and feminist men. They are psychotically competitive with other men, Yeah, because
• 45:00
  I want to prove that they're the best men. That's how you know,
• 45:02
  it's probably what's happening is leftists look at the men around them and say,
• 45:07
  oh my god, those men on the right, yeah, ten times worse.
• 45:13
  They go to the gym there they're saving money in the bank. That
• 45:19
  was worse than the men. I'm surrounded with the men. I'm surrounding with
• 45:22
  the guys reading the Bible. Yeah, I know, I know. It's
• 45:27
  weird, but okay, so I get I get that. There could they're
• 45:30
  they're definitely looking through like a prism. They're looking on their side, on
• 45:34
  their side, and they see that and there and that. Usually it's probably
• 45:37
  the case that most of those men are also pretty well behaved, but occasionally
• 45:40
  when one gets out of line, they're like, oh, this must be
• 45:43
  what men are like. The guys weren't like hopping around slinging pool and raping
• 45:47
  people's faces. Yeah I know, but there was like, yeah, yeah,
• 45:52
  I know. We were in the context of what's socially acceptable. You
• 45:58
  know, like both sides were basically acting in ways that were relatively socially acceptable.
• 46:02
  It's just one side was really really angry, competitive and hateful towards other
• 46:09
  men, and the other side was actually very friendly, compassionate, and interested
• 46:15
  in other men. You know, and the one side was feminist, the
• 46:17
  other side was not feminist, and they left, and the feminists are surrounded
• 46:22
  by men like that, and like I said, that everything that is that's
• 46:27
  wrong with men and the men around them is ten times worse on the right.
• 46:31
  Yeah, because that's the way we think. So they're just extrapolating and
• 46:37
  they're just imagining the worst, and it's like, no, Actually, once
• 46:39
  you get away from the male feminists, you see an ebbing of the toxic
• 46:44
  masculine, not the toxic maculine competition. Although I will say, just to
• 46:50
  be as certain on this, I'm pretty sure that all of them are some
• 46:53
  kind of feminists, like to some degree, but I think that the other
• 46:57
  guys were like, well, we're okay, because you know, I'm sure
• 46:59
  that if you if you ask them, the non feminist men, they would
• 47:02
  probably agree with some like like, you know, oh, I'm a second
• 47:06
  wave guy. You know, I think they should have the vote, like
• 47:08
  those kinds of things. But I take what you're saying regardless. I think
• 47:13
  that it's just because there is there could be a healthy amount of masculinity that's
• 47:19
  positive allowed into the space. That's what I'm saying. But men can't do
• 47:22
  that if they can't form space with each other, and like men kind of
• 47:28
  teach other men like by example. Well but you know, yeah, like
• 47:31
  this is why we have you know, mentors, and that's why we have
• 47:36
  male teachers and scout leaders and stuff, because they're supposed to be the model
• 47:39
  and the boys look at that. That's why I don't know, you see
• 47:43
  what I'm saying, I don't drag this outing and if like and what I'm
• 47:47
  saying is that it left heal thyself because yeah, your rhetoric is what's killing
• 47:53
  men's relationships with themselves and each other. And you can see it just listening
• 47:58
  to your men, Yeah, and how they talk about things, how they
• 48:01
  talk about other men, and how they talk about themselves as men. Just
• 48:05
  listen to that, and you can see where the relationships are disappearing and dying.
• 48:08
  Yeah, they're dying in the graveyard of the left of the feminist thought.
• 48:13
  Yeah, so I got a super chow. Thank you, great indoors,
• 48:20
  and great Indoors says for he gives us two, it's like one hundred
• 48:23
  and ten and then says, here's a donation for your little fantasy pamphlet,
• 48:28
  and I'll stop it with these threats about arm twisting. You've god damn Canadian,
• 48:34
  thank you great indoors. Also, we got again, just like yesterday,
• 48:37
  we got one hundred and ten people watching Hollison. This is like,
• 48:40
  these are pretty good numbers. Thanks, guys, really appreciate you're joining in
• 48:44
  the conversation. It's so good to see a lot of people, you know,
• 48:47
  getting involved. And also shout out again to Rumble and Twitch and d
• 48:52
  live and Facebook. We see you, we see you. So yes,
• 48:58
  all right, so let's continue you with shoes. No, I can hear
• 49:04
  you what we're gonna say. I said, we haven't seen these numbers since
• 49:07
  YouTube attended to kill this channel. Yeah yet I don't know if maybe they've
• 49:10
  like, like you know, ease the pressure on our throats with their boot.
• 49:16
  But yeah, yeah, really it's really good to see you guys.
• 49:20
  So all right, it's good to see you. Yeah. Toxic masculinity has
• 49:24
  existed forever. If anything, there's less toxic masculinity nowadays. The cultural embrace
• 49:30
  of like see what what see what does that even mean? Shoe? I
• 49:32
  mean, I'm sorry, but I will not accept toxic masculinity as a thing.
• 49:38
  It's it's made up. It's made up? You mean men being competitive
• 49:43
  with each other? Do women not do that? You know? Like,
• 49:47
  here's something, Alison, I want to mention, since we're talking about toxic
• 49:51
  masculinity. I thought I was. I think I brought this up. I
• 49:53
  hope I didn't already. I apologize. My memory ain't what it used to
• 49:57
  be since I got sick. But Greta girl Wig, did I say this
• 50:01
  already yesterday? I learned? Or I was looking at something. Greta Gerwig
• 50:07
  is the feminist woman that wrote and directed the Barbie movie. Okay, and
• 50:14
  in the movie that there are a lot of things about women not There was
• 50:19
  no love in the movie. There was no you know, it was like
• 50:22
  anti family was like girls breaking baby babies over rocks and stuff. There was
• 50:28
  an abortion allegory. There was all of this stuff about being your own person,
• 50:31
  you know, and just being happy with who you are, and like
• 50:35
  no investment in the future of society, nothing like that at all. No
• 50:39
  nothing, Okay, it was all just narcissistic navel gazing from start to finish.
• 50:45
  And the takeaway from the average woman, no matter like how intelligent you
• 50:50
  think it secretly was, is exactly the message that I just said. But
• 50:53
  what is funny is I learned later that Greta Gerwig is in a committee relationship
• 51:00
  with a man and she has two kids. And I was like, wait
• 51:05
  a minute, why would someone promote a message that they themselves do not follow?
• 51:12
  Is that? And I asked Lindsay, because I mean, she doesn't
• 51:15
  know the answer, and I don't have the answer, and maybe I don't
• 51:16
  know what I'm talking about. But when a woman does that, or when
• 51:20
  someone does that, is that a kind of competition where it's like, you
• 51:24
  shouldn't have kids, but I'm gonna have kids. See what I'm saying.
• 51:30
  It's sort of like, how isn't it? The glorious Steinem was the one
• 51:32
  that said, of you know a man, a woman needs a man like
• 51:36
  a fish needs a bicycle. But she's with a man. So like what
• 51:39
  I'm saying, if they're not following their own advice, are they engaging in
• 51:44
  some kind of you know? I think, yeah, yeah, go ahead
• 51:49
  for this, But could you repeat what Lindsay said? Maybe I can see
• 51:52
  she didn't know. She said that she thinks that what it might have been
• 51:55
  is because there are women who make life choices, and because women can stick
• 52:00
  to whatever they decide, they end up questioning themselves. So, you know,
• 52:02
  she was talking about how she had her mother had a friend who had
• 52:06
  kids, and her mother would tell her her her friend would tell Lindsay's mother,
• 52:12
  you know, in polite conversation away from them, that oh, you
• 52:15
  know, if I didn't have kids, I could be a doctor, I
• 52:17
  could be traveling. So there's like this kind of buyer's remorse. And I
• 52:22
  think it goes both ways, like you either have kids and you regret not
• 52:24
  having kids, or you don't have kids and you regret not having kids.
• 52:29
  So she says it could be that and that, and that might be part
• 52:34
  of it, but there is something really really sinister about the go ahead.
• 52:40
  I noticed something and it's related to what she said. Okay, so Lindsay
• 52:45
  said it's because it's possibly buyer's remorse. I think it might be deeper than
• 52:50
  that. And also uh with uh, because the thing is, if you
• 52:53
  think about it, if she has two kids, she should have an invest
• 53:00
  in the future. Yeah, okay, and she must. I mean,
• 53:04
  if she's capable of the kind of reflection and abstraction that allows her to write
• 53:09
  stories, you would imagine that she's able to project into the future, what
• 53:17
  will happen. I mean, you're eventually society is going to run out of
• 53:22
  spending its grandchildren's money when if it's not having any. I mean, that's
• 53:25
  what we're doing right now. We're like, yeah, we're we're writing checks
• 53:30
  our grandchildren are paying, except we're not having any. And I mean she,
• 53:36
  I mean, if she's smart enough to write, you would think she
• 53:38
  would be smart enough to project this into the future. I honestly think that
• 53:43
  there's something even deeper going on, and it's it's sort of difficult to set
• 53:47
  up in a live stream because it's got a lot of complex moving parts.
• 53:52
  But I think that, and this might be controversial even with our audience,
• 53:58
  I think that there's a social function behind feminism. Yeah, that is actually
• 54:05
  critical to running society or keeping society running, and that when you understand it,
• 54:12
  when you walk through that door, it's not that you justify feminism or
• 54:15
  any of its successes. You come to the point it's sort of like a
• 54:20
  I don't even know what a transcendent pill. You come to the point where
• 54:24
  it no longer touches you because you understand why it happened and why it is.
• 54:31
  A woman who with two children who should be invested in the future,
• 54:35
  is continuing to perpetuate it. And yeah, it's it's an interesting experience.
• 54:40
  Yea. Again, I think I can get into the Yeah, I just
• 54:44
  wanted to put that out there, but I don't. I don't know if
• 54:46
  Greta groway. I mean, the story for that movie is awful, so
• 54:50
  I'm not. And then last time she did something, well, well it
• 54:52
  was an adaptation, all right, but anyway, let's continue with it.
• 54:55
  I'm just saying, toxic masculinity unproven, not even theory. It's just some
• 55:00
  bullshit that was thrown out there, and I can't believe people just take it
• 55:04
  because somebody with a fucking piece of paper on the wall said it. Gender
• 55:09
  nonconformity, fem boys, Harry Styles and address Barbie movie blah blah blah blah.
• 55:15
  My point is, toxic masculinity did not just appear in the mid twenty
• 55:17
  tens, but social media did, and the Internet did, and the rise
• 55:22
  of dating apps did, and the housing crisis and living in a country where
• 55:25
  the wealth inequality is worse than it was during the Gilded Age. That all
• 55:30
  happened recently. Oh my god, the privileged life these poor little boys must
• 55:34
  have that their biggest problem is being lonely, i e. So insufferable that
• 55:37
  nobody wants to sleep with them. When they start talking about this shit,
• 55:45
  do they not realize that men are built are born into the same social stratification
• 55:50
  that they are. Yeah, Like, what do you think boys are automatically
• 55:55
  in the talk class? Like this is ridiculous, This is absolutely ridiculous.
• 56:00
  This is a bunch of prols who are caught forced to argue amongst themselves in
• 56:06
  order to deflect away from the actual elite. That's it, because it's ridiculous,
• 56:14
  Like it's this is a ridiculous statement the privileged life these poor little boys
• 56:17
  must have. Okay, when a boy is born, he's born into approximately
• 56:23
  the same socioeconomic class of his mother. Right, I'm not going to say
• 56:28
  his father, because his mother or not not be there. So it is
• 56:30
  ridiculous to say that this kid is privileged much less privileged like you seem to
• 56:38
  think like every man is Basically what I'm saying is this, This rhetoric suggests
• 56:45
  that they think every man is born a Rockefeller Yeah everyone, Yeah, which
• 56:51
  is bullshit. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Plus, like the way that you
• 56:54
  know, the way the system works. Now women are you know, and
• 57:00
  the poorest woman is doing better than the poorest man, like the homeless man.
• 57:04
  And on top of that, like even people women on welfare, they
• 57:07
  live better lives than monarchs of the past. So this isn't something like snub
• 57:13
  income inequality is such a bullshit argument though, Oh there's more stuff and some
• 57:15
  people have more stuff than me. Yeah, but we all have more stuff.
• 57:20
  So what are you complaining about anyway? And again if any no,
• 57:24
  but like, and the thing is too is that men are men are blocked
• 57:28
  from from achieving. So if they're not doing well, it's not it's the
• 57:32
  fault of what. It's the state, it's taxation, it's the welfare state,
• 57:36
  it's all these other things. It's not like just some monopoly man taking
• 57:39
  ship from people. You know, those men were men too. That's another
• 57:43
  thing about the left that I don't understand like they want to they're they're they
• 57:46
  want to say like even the ones that speak for men, they don't speak
• 57:50
  for all men. They speak for some men because the other men that are
• 57:54
  part of the problem. So that doesn't work right, And like you said,
• 57:59
  there were see CEO's dying, sacrificing themselves to protect women and people beneath
• 58:05
  them in the two towers when they came down, because that's what a man
• 58:07
  is. Yes, And the thing is that, yeah, CEO's duh,
• 58:15
  there's still men people, men in the C suite, two men like and
• 58:19
  they and here. I've been having this discussion on Twitter, and I don't
• 58:22
  know if I conveyed my my point properly, but what I was, what
• 58:25
  I was telling them was that well, someone was saying that, you know,
• 58:30
  not all men are CEOs. But what I wanted to point out is
• 58:34
  CEOs aren't CEOs the way that people portray them as. First of all,
• 58:38
  the average CEO is not a rock star, a fortune five hundred rock star.
• 58:44
  I'm a CEO. The average CEO makes at most twice as much as
• 58:49
  the average worker, twice as much. Okay, that's it, And they
• 58:54
  are possible a person making twice as much as responsible for the rage of like
• 58:59
  twenty people. I'm not. But you know, the average CEO is responsible
• 59:04
  for as the head of a small business, makes twice as much as the
• 59:07
  average worker and make sure another twenty people get paid. Okay, does that
• 59:12
  make that a little bit more sensible. Yeah, it's like it's like when
• 59:16
  you look at the top five hundred CEOs, any argument based on them,
• 59:22
  Uh, the fortune five hundred is a meaningless argument. You might as well
• 59:25
  make an argument based on supermodels or sports stars. Yeah, okay, that's
• 59:30
  it's meaningless. I mean, if people are struggling right now, couldn't we
• 59:34
  like, couldn't you just say that because there are there is a problem with
• 59:37
  people not having jobs. But that's kind of recent, like as of oh,
• 59:42
  I don't know, twenty or twenty because of something the government did that's
• 59:46
  shut down a bunch of businesses because of riots that burns cities to the ground
• 59:52
  and nobody wanted to reopen, creating food deserts. Okay, it was happening
• 59:58
  before then. The economy has been sort of a little bit problematic for a
• 1:00:05
  while, but the it's because of the fat burg It's because we have a
• 1:00:14
  huge amount of institutions sitting on top basically printing down money. I know,
• 1:00:21
  you know, and it's it's like, yes, talking about the income inequality
• 1:00:25
  is a legitimate, but it's coming because there's too much There are too many
• 1:00:35
  corporations that are too big to fail, so they basically sit on welfare on
• 1:00:39
  the top as a gigantic fat burg pushing down the rest of the economy and
• 1:00:45
  men's achievement as well. So it's like, yeah, this is legitimate,
• 1:00:50
  and we if we could get all of this antimil rhetoric out, maybe the
• 1:00:53
  people on the left and the people on the economic right, left and left
• 1:00:57
  and right could actually discuss this like sensible people. I know, I can
• 1:01:00
  hear the anarcho capitalists screeching in the background, reading in the background. Just
• 1:01:07
  just forget I said that. But but you know, like we could have
• 1:01:10
  this conversation. Yeah, the income inequality is bad, Why where's it really
• 1:01:15
  coming from? You know? One of the things is that when men earn
• 1:01:20
  more, they elevate their women out of poverty, but not men. Not
• 1:01:25
  when of that when women earn more. No, all right, when you
• 1:01:29
  give all of these opportunities to women, you create a stagnant society, and
• 1:01:35
  you are probably going to end up with a society of increasing economic like economic
• 1:01:44
  chasm between the haves and the have nots. Okay, And also like women
• 1:01:49
  going into the white collar professional professions in the eighties and nineties stopped the upward
• 1:01:55
  mobility of men in the lower classes. There's all kinds of stuff we could
• 1:02:00
  talk about that that's leading to this economic stagnation, lack of innovation, the
• 1:02:06
  fact that we don't actually encourage masculine nature, like we don't encourage men and
• 1:02:13
  recognize that they have a unique ability to take risks, except in those jobs
• 1:02:19
  that we just you know, nobody wants. Yeah, you know, and
• 1:02:22
  it's like we could have all these kinds of discussions except this this shit.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah, all right, let's keep going. I didn't even get to what
• 1:02:35
  I was saying. Yeah, I'm just saying that they're I used an analogy.
• 1:02:42
  Okay, I used because I'm so good at those. I said,
• 1:02:45
  every man is put into a death race, and the process of running that
• 1:02:51
  race, they gain skills of survival. I mean, this is just in
• 1:02:54
  this is actually I don't know if this is an analogy. Is it analogy
• 1:02:58
  or is it a metaphor. I don't So they gain skills, they overcome
• 1:03:02
  any kind of like the they overcome what could be killing them. They gain
• 1:03:07
  the skills related to survival through either a combination of luck and perseverance, like
• 1:03:13
  some of the things that they have, the obstacles they have to face suicide,
• 1:03:15
  workplace death, homelessness, all kinds of physical problems from from the work
• 1:03:22
  that they take up. So they run those risks in this death race.
• 1:03:25
  At the end, some win through a result of probably luck and perseverance,
• 1:03:30
  Some win big, some win less, but they all have to go through
• 1:03:35
  it. And what happens is people ignore the fact that we put them in
• 1:03:40
  the death race, and that's why one of them wins it. Okay,
• 1:03:47
  so we look at that that guy who wins it and says, oh,
• 1:03:51
  he's so privileged. No, the CEOs aren't privileged. They went through a
• 1:03:58
  fucking death race and they ended up. And again, like what I mean,
• 1:04:02
  men all want to it's not really about having the most. It's about
• 1:04:08
  like what men want is just to have enough. And they're trying to attract
• 1:04:11
  women at the end of the day, so what is it? So what
• 1:04:14
  does that women want? Right? So, I mean men are pursuing what
• 1:04:16
  women are asking, but that's sort of an added complexity. My point overall
• 1:04:21
  point is is that it's not that homeless men inherit the so called privilege of
• 1:04:28
  CEOs. Yes, that CEOs inherit the disprivilege, the disenfranchisement of homeless men.
• 1:04:35
  They had to go through that, They had to go through the threat
• 1:04:39
  of homelessness, They had to go through the threat of losing a limb in
• 1:04:43
  work. That was shit. I guarantee most homeless, most CEOs have a
• 1:04:47
  worse job in their life. That was hellish because almost every man does.
• 1:04:53
  Okay, almost every man has a job like roofing, slinging tar on roofs
• 1:04:59
  and in in July, you know, and that includes CEOs. Yes they
• 1:05:05
  will. So every man has run that race, ye, and he won
• 1:05:12
  not because he's privileged, but as a result of probably perseverance and a large
• 1:05:17
  amount of luck. Because somebody has to win the race. You know,
• 1:05:20
  you send out a hundred boys, eighty die, but twenty win. Okay,
• 1:05:25
  somebody has to be the lucky few, all right. So, but
• 1:05:29
  that that's the point. We shouldn't be looking at men in the the C
• 1:05:34
  suite as privileged. Yeah they're not. They ran the same race. Let's
• 1:05:43
  allment's let's keep going. And the poor distribution of wealth causing people to suffer
• 1:05:47
  food and housing and security. Boohoo, you're lonely and have no friends and
• 1:05:53
  are suicidal when because feeling alienated under capitalism, apparently isn't a thing. People
• 1:05:58
  are working harder and longer, well wages have your stagnant. They're also poor
• 1:06:03
  and homeless like that. Here's the thing, Like this person has a vision
• 1:06:09
  of men. That's bizarre. It's not just like it's not just that men
• 1:06:13
  are lonely. They're all also more likely to be poor and failed to get
• 1:06:16
  through education and not be doing well in terms of jobs. I mean,
• 1:06:21
  the men who are still in jobs are earning more, but there's more men
• 1:06:26
  out of jobs than women. Yeah, okay, keep going. Also,
• 1:06:30
  capitalism doesn't alienate people. It's just property rights. Get it right, that's
• 1:06:34
  all it is. Corporatis isab own, I know, but they keep saying
• 1:06:39
  capitalism alice and because it's wrong like that, Can I have your microphone?
• 1:06:44
  Shoe? I'm gonna take your microphone? Oh no, wait, you want
• 1:06:46
  to keep it? Oh well, that's property rights, isn't it. Men
• 1:06:50
  have been dropping out of college like flies, and what does that get you?
• 1:06:54
  Poor men? Which, since women are doing amazing in college now and
• 1:06:58
  many are now out earn men, this most of the time leads to single
• 1:07:02
  men, which then leads to lonely men, which leads to depressed men,
• 1:07:06
  which leads to the high side rate. In my opinion, the leftism at
• 1:07:12
  a policy level does a great job addressing the shitty material conditions that in part
• 1:07:16
  lead to the problems that men are facing, but then absolutely drops the ball
• 1:07:19
  when it comes to everything and anything related to men's cultural issues. That's that's
• 1:07:28
  because men are not a priority or leftists, that's why. And also they
• 1:07:34
  got it wrong. See men. This is what I get upset about the
• 1:07:39
  capitalism thing, because it's inaccurate for one, but also you can't if you're
• 1:07:45
  again, capitalism requires a level of meritocracy to function without the let's say government
• 1:07:55
  interference. Okay, and that would be the most preferred method. We're not
• 1:08:00
  there now. This is a mixed economy. It would be great if we
• 1:08:02
  could do it, but I think we could. If we could do that,
• 1:08:04
  it would be great. But when you say all the stuff that you
• 1:08:10
  as a man want to pursue, you want to build your own business,
• 1:08:13
  you want to hustle, You want to use a skill or a passion or
• 1:08:16
  a craft to make money, and you want to use the money that you
• 1:08:20
  make, the value that you create, to provide for your family, to
• 1:08:24
  provide for your children. And then you want to give that to your children
• 1:08:28
  so that they can carry on the legacy on and on. All of that's
• 1:08:30
  bad now, because capitalism is bad. This is why it doesn't work.
• 1:08:35
  Men, masculinity capitalism are like intrinsically linked. I'm sorry. Capitalism does not
• 1:08:42
  mean greed. Greed is not a product of that. Greed is a human
• 1:08:45
  problem. People are greedy if you take away everything else. In Soviet Russia,
• 1:08:51
  greedy people existed because greed is a human problem. Okay. And that's
• 1:08:57
  usually what they mean when they say capitalism. They say they mean greed and
• 1:09:00
  they mean materialism. Well guess what. Women are the most materialistic people in
• 1:09:04
  on Earth. You know, they buy they buy ship and they throw it
• 1:09:09
  out immediately, like, and nobody's addressing that. Nobody's addressing that. Okay.
• 1:09:16
  What I wanted to say is I disagree that the left has actually really
• 1:09:19
  addressed these problems. What I would say is that we are in a civilization.
• 1:09:30
  Why am I smelling poop? Did you poop yourself? No? Is
• 1:09:36
  there a dog? The dog pooped in there? Maybe? Yeah? Maybe
• 1:09:41
  no? I yeah, no, I think it's okay. I think maybe
• 1:09:44
  the somebody's changing the litter box. That was Oh, so it's a cat
• 1:09:48
  poop. Okay, yeah, but you know sometimes dogs have accidents too.
• 1:09:53
  But anyway, what was it going for. Okay, we are in the
• 1:10:00
  West. We are part of a global empire. And if you go to
• 1:10:03
  look in past the Roman Empire, it had a grain doll. You know
• 1:10:09
  why I could afford a grain doll because it was on the peak of the
• 1:10:15
  civilization hierarchy at the time. Welfare only happens into in states that are at
• 1:10:23
  the peak of civilization hierarchies, and they can they can afford it because they
• 1:10:29
  can push the costs onto the colonies, either actual or like either they are
• 1:10:36
  literally colonies or they're basically just places that they can put their money or they
• 1:10:44
  use their currency, you know. So that's why we can have welfare and
• 1:10:47
  address poverty in the States and in Western nations because we're at the top of
• 1:10:54
  the pyramid and we can push the costs onto other countries and other other people
• 1:10:59
  in the world. So I wouldn't I wouldn't be so pleased that we managed
• 1:11:03
  to do this because it actually is somebody is paying for the grain doal,
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, and it's either the people, it's the taxpayers in the US and
• 1:11:17
  other Western nations, and it's also everybody else in the world and generations not
• 1:11:24
  yet born, generations not yet born. That's not a salute. Yeah.
• 1:11:28
  And the other thing too, is that like men, if you want men
• 1:11:31
  to stop deleting themselves, they need to feel as though their life has meaning.
• 1:11:40
  And the way, the number one way that men demonstrate that is by
• 1:11:45
  earning something, earning their worth, demonstrating their worth. Right. So if
• 1:11:50
  you want to dismantle capitalism, my property rights, you're taking away the thing
• 1:11:57
  that men use to show what they have earned. Yeah, So like that
• 1:12:01
  you you you, that's why there. I think that's why there's a lot
• 1:12:04
  of pessimism. And I think that leftist feminist men are probably also feeling that
• 1:12:11
  way because they're like, well, I feel like I should be earning something,
• 1:12:15
  but I don't want anyone to know I'm earning something because that's bad.
• 1:12:19
  So like you can't, you can you? Men need they need the purpose.
• 1:12:24
  I mean they need that more than they need women. See, Like,
• 1:12:29
  I think that like one of the reasons why we have this problem with
• 1:12:31
  loneliness and in cells and stuff. And I don't think in cells are a
• 1:12:34
  problem. Don't get me wrong, but purposelessness, yeah, is that the
• 1:12:40
  women appear to be the prize and that's probably not the best model when you
• 1:12:46
  could be modeling like a kind of the goal of like your legacy, maybe
• 1:12:54
  that maybe something like that. I mean, women obviously have to be a
• 1:12:57
  part of it. But like when you're just us on women and not you
• 1:13:00
  like you're like what you're pursuing, what you want to earn. If you
• 1:13:04
  focus on that, then you'd probably the women will come right. So like
• 1:13:10
  this is and I'm you know, just to say, this is why people
• 1:13:13
  like Agertator popular because he built a business or at least this is like the
• 1:13:17
  image that he puts out. Men see that, they see that it gets
• 1:13:21
  him, you know, a lot of luxuries and the obviously he attracts women,
• 1:13:26
  et cetera. And they're like, well, that's what I want.
• 1:13:28
  But more than anything, men want to be able to say I built that.
• 1:13:31
  That's what they want to be able to say. And if you're anti
• 1:13:35
  property, then there's nothing that And that means that you have to be anti
• 1:13:41
  proof of worth because a man can't have property unless he earns money, and
• 1:13:45
  money is simply a document that says this is how much my you know,
• 1:13:51
  hard work has paid off and this is what I'm earned, and that's what
• 1:13:57
  men want. They want to earn. And so if you if you take
• 1:14:00
  that away from them and you say no, no, no, everything's gonna
• 1:14:02
  be free now, which obviously it isn't, then you're taking that away from
• 1:14:06
  them. It kills their soul. I mean women they can do that too,
• 1:14:11
  but generally they don't have to, like this is why why are not?
• 1:14:14
  Why are this? So? A few women CEOs? Well they don't
• 1:14:15
  want to put in eighty hours a week. Maybe they're maybe they'll do it
• 1:14:18
  for a while and they're like, you know what, I'm tired. I'm
• 1:14:20
  just gonna marry a guy and settle down. And that's what women but men
• 1:14:24
  don't have the they don't they can't do that. I mean women are women
• 1:14:27
  are out earning men and they're not fighting men because they want men better than
• 1:14:30
  the men, that than what they're making. Guess what you've just like,
• 1:14:34
  you know, cut off a big chunk of your of the entire market.
• 1:14:39
  Yeah, I would say that. I don't think that women are particularly happy
• 1:14:44
  in this materialism either. No, they're not, No, but I mean
• 1:14:46
  they keep being told that they should be. Yeah, I don't think anybody's
• 1:14:50
  really that happy. No, And I mean, like, I'm not gonna
• 1:14:57
  I think it just comes down to what we spoke about yesterday. Any system
• 1:15:00
  that is going to work for men will have to incorporate a meritocracy. If
• 1:15:06
  you can make meritocracy work with communism, I applaud your black magic, you
• 1:15:14
  know, but that's you got to do it. You've got to make You've
• 1:15:15
  got to figure that out. You got to square it. Corporations are not
• 1:15:20
  capitalists there they are. They are government. And it's certainly not that just
• 1:15:28
  basically have a slusive I'm saying that without without without the government, corporations couldn't
• 1:15:34
  exist. Well, yeah, a lot of them couldn't exist simply because they're
• 1:15:39
  too big to fail and they're now on corporate welfare. Okay, all right,
• 1:15:43
  let's keep going. Yeah, Okay, many such cases. And why
• 1:15:46
  would a struggling man even want to move left when the left appears actively hostile
• 1:15:51
  to them? The question of whether or not the hashtag online left is enough
• 1:15:56
  to appeal to hashtag men has become the question to your and like men have
• 1:16:00
  most of the money, authority and do most of the murdering and assaulting the
• 1:16:04
  everage young man in America, isn't Jeff Bezos? Also, why did this
• 1:16:08
  most Jeff Bezos doesn't do murdering and assaulting and he works really hard. Sorry,
• 1:16:14
  sorry, sorry you don't like him, but that's the truth. He
• 1:16:16
  earned it. Yeah, I mean the government helped him. The government helped
• 1:16:21
  him. But yeah, Amazon was provided is providing something that no one else
• 1:16:26
  did. In fact, you know, I'm not a fan of Amazon.
• 1:16:29
  I'm not. I'm not saying that, okay, but when the lockdowns happened,
• 1:16:32
  people literally could not go to the store in parts of the world,
• 1:16:35
  they could not leave their house, and so their only option was Amazon.
• 1:16:41
  Right, So who's really responsible for all that law? Yeah exactly. But
• 1:16:45
  I mean, Jeff Jeff Bezos is not fucking you know, uh, Patrick
• 1:16:49
  Bateman, that that doesn't exist. That's the satire. Guys, you watch
• 1:16:54
  him any movies. Okay, Okay, I think that she's just saying that
• 1:16:58
  this guy thinks that every man is basil. But you know, yeah,
• 1:17:00
  I know that's that is a problem that has been a constant theme throughout all
• 1:17:04
  of this. For some reason, men have been have become synonymous with the
• 1:17:11
  aristocracy. It's the apex fallacy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you
• 1:17:16
  know what, there's nothing you're not gonna get anywhere with this kind of your
• 1:17:19
  rhetoric looping back around your brain. And also this dude, you are a
• 1:17:24
  man. I think I don't know. He's wearing lipstick. So we we
• 1:17:29
  we've learned, thanks to Neil Degrass Tyson, that if you like it cut
• 1:17:33
  your hair short as a girl, you're obviously like on the gender spectrum somewhere
• 1:17:39
  away from woman. That's that's what it is. Now, that's the reality.
• 1:17:43
  The black science man said it, So it is. It is now
• 1:17:45
  law. It is the science. So yeah, that guy's probably not a
• 1:17:50
  man. That's why he can criticize men. Okay, so what does she
• 1:17:55
  say about the rest of this? All right, let's keep going. There's
• 1:17:57
  FBI crime statistics at me, men the most murder. Okay. They like
• 1:18:02
  having all of the stuff they don't deserve. They like that. They wanted
• 1:18:05
  to stay that way because it suits them, because of the stuff telling people
• 1:18:10
  they're special and deserve all the nice ship that they have. That's going to
• 1:18:13
  be an easier cell ten times out of ten than like saying, hey,
• 1:18:16
  maybe you should have less stuff and other people should have more. What I
• 1:18:21
  mean, he's not he's not lying. That's literally what they believe. That's
• 1:18:26
  literally it. He's just putting it out there, black and white. That's
• 1:18:28
  what they believe they Okay, First of all, the men with the stuff
• 1:18:31
  have women. I mean, how much stuff is too much stuff? No?
• 1:18:38
  No, seriously, the men with the stuff have got the women.
• 1:18:44
  They are not the ones who are lonely. M so okay, all right,
• 1:18:54
  So the men with the stuff are the ones who are actually insensible.
• 1:18:57
  Don't they see how self defeating this is? Like men want to have partners,
• 1:19:02
  you know, they want to have a goal. Okay, let's just
• 1:19:05
  say this. Men want to feel like they're building something primarily, all right,
• 1:19:12
  and they also want to be able to have families. Now this is
• 1:19:15
  just general. Not every man is going to be like that, right,
• 1:19:18
  and not every men has to be. But neither of these two things the
• 1:19:26
  left wants to attend to. They don't recognize how men create a greater goal.
• 1:19:32
  They don't want to create that meritocracy where men can pursue pro social ends
• 1:19:36
  that build a society, And they don't give a crap about making it so
• 1:19:42
  that men have relationships with women. So how are you going to construct your
• 1:19:46
  left utopia like you're gonna You're not gonna appeal to anyone. You're not gonna
• 1:19:51
  appeal to the women because the women want the men with stuff versus well,
• 1:19:56
  and it doesn't necessarily it could be gift to more borrow. The thing was
• 1:20:00
  that the cheese is the man with the most the largest acreage in Texas.
• 1:20:10
  Okay, that's the big cheese. Yeah, yes, guess who's going to
• 1:20:14
  have the most women? Okay, if the big cheese is the is the
• 1:20:17
  man who is most devoted to you know, the communist motherland, Who do
• 1:20:24
  you think is going to have all the checks? All right? All right?
• 1:20:29
  When you create, when you when you recognize the way that men become
• 1:20:32
  the big cheese. Okay, so that the way that men can contribute in
• 1:20:38
  a positive way to whatever it is you're doing, and also you know,
• 1:20:43
  give them some kind of status. Then you're also attracting women because they want
• 1:20:49
  those men. What the hell, what do you think you're gonna do?
• 1:20:54
  Like, you guys are useless. All you are is a parasite class that
• 1:21:00
  only exists because of the freaking world reserve currency. That's it. You're not
• 1:21:04
  imagining anything new, you're not perfunctionally producing anything new. You exist because the
• 1:21:13
  world is basically, you know, subjugated to the particular currency which gives you
• 1:21:23
  the ability to print infinite money and sell your your grandchildren's labor. That's the
• 1:21:28
  only reason why all of you lefts exist. Oh yeah, you can only
• 1:21:31
  exist in a time of abundance. If we were all poor and like living
• 1:21:36
  in huts like that, there would be there are no comedies in like the
• 1:21:40
  third world. So until they create the third world, yeah, okay,
• 1:21:45
  that's why they're complaining on the left that there's this huge schism between the values
• 1:21:50
  of the West and the values of the rest of the world. The values
• 1:21:54
  of the rest of the world is still you know, work. Women need
• 1:21:58
  to work and provide for their families and respect you know, their husbands and
• 1:22:01
  whatever, and also have children and do this other thing. There's all conservative
• 1:22:05
  values in the rest of the world because they have to because they can't sit
• 1:22:11
  in troughs of fucking money talking about how poor they are, you know,
• 1:22:17
  not having to work and still being able to gain to weigh three hundred pounds.
• 1:22:25
  Okay, you know, this is why you exist. You are an
• 1:22:30
  expression of affulence, and all of your theories about the world and about how
• 1:22:39
  you're going to construct your utopia are bullshit because they're just expressions of affulence.
• 1:22:45
  If you are not attending to the fact that women want men who gain status,
• 1:22:49
  who have status, whatever that status is, it could you know what
• 1:22:55
  tomorrow, It could be that the man who recycles the most is the big
• 1:23:00
  cheese, and then he's gonna have all the chicks. And what would the
• 1:23:04
  world look like? Then? You know, the man with the most amount
• 1:23:09
  of solar panels is the big cheese. What would the world look like then?
• 1:23:13
  Right? You got to figure that out otherwise you got nothing. All
• 1:23:15
  you are is an expression of affulance. Complaining about affulance. Yeah, okay,
• 1:23:21
  I'm done with Mary. All right, I got a super chats and
• 1:23:26
  a rumble rant, So let's start with a rumble rant. Thank you.
• 1:23:29
  Noba fan twenty one for two bucks and says, I think when feminists and
• 1:23:31
  leftists say socialized I think they point to TV shows and call it propaganda while
• 1:23:35
  ignoring every toxic female behavior. Essentially the I blame the rap music. Yeah,
• 1:23:42
  I mean that while they often cite like things in pop culture, which
• 1:23:45
  is weird because pop culture stuff is made by well leftists and feminist most of
• 1:23:48
  the time that are creating like a kind of clown show stereotype of what they
• 1:23:54
  think reality is. But they don't live in reality because most of these people
• 1:23:57
  are like fucking rich as hell and they don't really see what the normal everyday
• 1:24:00
  person deals with. But thank you Nova fan for that. Albert Nada Retro
• 1:24:04
  gives us two dollars Canadian and says, time to play that. What is
• 1:24:08
  a man watch? Ad Brian. I'm sorry, I don't have a handy
• 1:24:12
  and it's probably too long. I don't want this to go too long,
• 1:24:14
  so qube butther soul Star gives us five dollars and says it's like they're trying
• 1:24:17
  to drive men towards the next armed tragedy. I think they want men to
• 1:24:21
  blow up. I mean, like literally blow up. I mean there is
• 1:24:27
  I think that that one of the things that feminism does do, unfortunately effectively,
• 1:24:31
  is set men against other men, and then they go, why are
• 1:24:34
  men's making friends with other men's? So because I mean they do they set
• 1:24:41
  men against other men, and they into a degree, they set women against
• 1:24:45
  women too, So you know. Oh yeah, they definitely do. Yeah,
• 1:24:49
  women are in this that you try to pretend like women are are buddy
• 1:24:54
  buddy, but they're in a struggle over resources as well. And there and
• 1:25:00
  a great deal of suspicion over or contempt towards women who challenge the current way
• 1:25:09
  that will justify seizing resources from men. Yeah, Okay, what I was
• 1:25:14
  gonna say is, yeah, men, men are horrible. Why aren't they
• 1:25:17
  making friends with each other? Yeah? Men are horrible. Why aren't you
• 1:25:21
  guys friends with each other? Although we wanted to be friends with each other,
• 1:25:24
  but we wanted to be on our terms. Are you guys crying and
• 1:25:27
  hugging and giving each other hand jobs? Enough? Because that's important. That's
• 1:25:30
  what we do as ladies occasionally. Oh anyway, let's go Ontism is when
• 1:25:36
  you don't have a lot of stuff, We're gonna take your stuff. You
• 1:25:40
  sound like a sixty five year old Fox News boomer's idea of what the left
• 1:25:45
  is. Are you a CIA agent? The right is saying to men,
• 1:25:47
  you will own a house, you will have beautiful children with your loving wife.
• 1:25:51
  You will have privacy, you will have free speech, you will own
• 1:25:55
  things, and you will be happy. And the left is like they like
• 1:25:58
  having all of the stuff they don't deserve. But don't get me wrong,
• 1:26:00
  Republicans will not do The Republican Party will not do shift. The establishment in
• 1:26:05
  general will not do to help any of this. Well wait a minute,
• 1:26:10
  wait a minute, But what are they supposed to do? Because again,
• 1:26:13
  what that means is the government has to get involved. Why would the government
• 1:26:15
  get involved to help men with anything? If anything, the government milks men.
• 1:26:20
  So you're saying the establishment do anything, Well, what are they supposed
• 1:26:24
  to do? I remember Josh Holly wrote a book, but everybody shifted on
• 1:26:28
  him, didn't they? So I mean other than that, I don't get
• 1:26:30
  it. Like, the only thing the state can do is get out of
• 1:26:34
  men's way. That is the one thing that they will not do under any
• 1:26:39
  circumstances. So what is the point in saying the Republicans are going to The
• 1:26:44
  Democrats aren't doing shit either. But honestly, Brian, you're right, and
• 1:26:49
  neither side is going to ultimately do anything. They're going to continue to attempt
• 1:26:56
  to twist everything into protecting or providing for women. Yeah, and women and
• 1:27:00
  women are not going to say we don't need your help. They're just gonna
• 1:27:04
  sit there and say, Okay, good, I like free stuff. I
• 1:27:09
  like all the stuff that men make, and I want to take it,
• 1:27:12
  even though when men acquire stuff, they actually want to give that stuff to
• 1:27:15
  women. But no, why would women go to men for stuff when they
• 1:27:19
  can get the government to take the stuff from men and give it to them.
• 1:27:21
  Anyways, because that's where we are now. So again, I don't
• 1:27:28
  what them to tell people in the Barbie Land. Why didn't they just create
• 1:27:30
  their own island for kens and just let them have their mojo dojo shit?
• 1:27:36
  Well, because I think ultimately, well, because we go to Gerwig is
• 1:27:41
  a terrible writer and she doesn't understand how men work. So there's that.
• 1:27:44
  I think that's all it is. I can I can go into like all
• 1:27:45
  of the things they could have done better, but like, ultimately, she
• 1:27:48
  needed, she needed her twisted, upside down clown world view of reality to
• 1:27:55
  manifest in Barbie Land, and so she just did it. She's forced it
• 1:27:59
  in there, force it in there, like like Lena Dunham and her pebbles.
• 1:28:05
  Anyway, that's a yeah, you guys know that reference. But all
• 1:28:10
  right, let's let's keep going and Pebbles Yeah, those pebbles have have PTSD
• 1:28:17
  and some seriously horrifying stories to tell. Yeah, there's a book she wrote.
• 1:28:23
  So that's all I'm saying, is at least rhetorically offering men something other
• 1:28:29
  than nothing or the eternal HR Department. Every time this discord comes up,
• 1:28:33
  there's people like, we need a left to Sandrew Tate, we need masculine
• 1:28:38
  role models on the left. But the fact is it's hard for progressives to
• 1:28:41
  organically appeal to men because a large part of progressivism is oppressive hierarchy, and
• 1:28:46
  men are oppressors. Making progressivism look appealing to young men is an uphill battle
• 1:28:51
  from the start. And although it's funny to laugh at insane people on Twitter,
• 1:28:55
  as always she believed that men are oppressors, or she's saying, well,
• 1:29:00
  she's on the left, so I think to some degree yes, because
• 1:29:03
  like again I don't want to assume what she knows, but like this is
• 1:29:08
  this is this is the sticking point, this is the impossible obstacle because leftism
• 1:29:15
  can only exist if there is an oppressor class, and men are the oppressor
• 1:29:20
  class. So unless you tear that idea down, which would destroy leftism,
• 1:29:26
  It's like it's it's patriarchy. It's the same thing. Okay, patriarchy in
• 1:29:30
  feminism is a necessity, Like you cannot be a feminist that doesn't believe in
• 1:29:35
  patriarchy because basically you don't believe in feminism anymore. You just believe in like
• 1:29:41
  women and fairness and justice, and that's it, right. But because feminism
• 1:29:45
  is built on the foundation of patriarchy, leftism in the broader sense is built
• 1:29:50
  on the narrative of or the oppression narrative, that there is an oppressor class,
• 1:29:56
  and that oppressor class can take multiple forms thanks to interest octionality. It's
• 1:30:00
  white people, it's men, it's like the rich, it's the straight people,
• 1:30:04
  it's the cis people, whatever. And so because she's trying, she's
• 1:30:11
  basically I think that she's experiencing cognitive dissonance because you want to advocate for men,
• 1:30:15
  but leftism is is constructed specifically to cast men as the bad guys.
• 1:30:21
  And then the only way you can maybe work around it is say, okay,
• 1:30:25
  okay, not all men, but just like the really rich men,
• 1:30:28
  or just like the men in positions of the highest levels of government, or
• 1:30:33
  maybe just like the people in the high because there are women like Kamala Harris
• 1:30:38
  to have tremendous amounts of power, so maybe, shit my head, you
• 1:30:43
  know, there's no there's no, there's no way you could build an ideology
• 1:30:48
  without with that kind of You need an oppressor, that's the way it works.
• 1:30:54
  But yeah, men are currently the oppressor, so you have to fight
• 1:30:57
  against almost the entirety of your Yes, but that is that. Okay,
• 1:31:01
  let's be honest. Is the right really that much better when it comes to
• 1:31:09
  recognizing that men are not inherently oppressive, and that, in fact, men's
• 1:31:14
  prime dominant relationship towards women is one of a desire to protect and provide for
• 1:31:18
  women as a group, which is why, uh, you know, which
• 1:31:23
  is why every national nationality is symbolized by a female WIFO. Okay, you
• 1:31:31
  know that's that's why. It's because they want to capture that instinct for men
• 1:31:36
  to try to protect and provide for women. Yes, and like that's the
• 1:31:42
  predominant instinct that men have towards women. Yes, And and does the right
• 1:31:48
  actually embrace recognizing that, not that that I don't know that Christianity makes men
• 1:31:56
  do it, or Islam makes men do it, or progressivism makes men do
• 1:31:59
  it or being a Republican makes men do it, but that it is inherent
• 1:32:02
  to men to do it. I mean I would say yes, because why
• 1:32:09
  not. Yeah? Sure. I mean when she says you can get stuff,
• 1:32:12
  I think that they're saying, we believe that men are capable of accomplishing
• 1:32:15
  these things. I look, we can say that that there are people on
• 1:32:20
  the right that don't that don't know what's going on, that they're not they're
• 1:32:25
  not aware of the scope of the problem, and they don't know what the
• 1:32:28
  solution is. And they're still buying into this women worsting thing to some degree.
• 1:32:32
  But it is not even close to what the left is doing. It's
• 1:32:35
  not even close. There's a big difference between actively being violent and hateful towards
• 1:32:41
  men and just being clueless. If there's a complete difference, Alison, I
• 1:32:45
  don't see why we keep on going back and bashing these people that just need
• 1:32:49
  our help. They're allowing this to happen if they don't know, they don't
• 1:32:56
  know what's happening. We have to help them. I'm so tired of this.
• 1:33:01
  It's like an endless everybody's to blame but us. That's ridiculous. I
• 1:33:06
  want to help these people. I get guests on all the time, and
• 1:33:11
  you know what, the left never comes on this show. They never want
• 1:33:14
  to talk to me, but the right always does. And then I plant
• 1:33:17
  a little seed and I get them to think about this stuff, and they
• 1:33:19
  go back and maybe something changes. But I'm sick of this. I'm not
• 1:33:25
  trying to be partisan. I never wanted to be partisan. But that's how
• 1:33:28
  it's shaking out, Allison, that's how it's shaking out. It's not my
• 1:33:31
  fault, it's reality. Oh, there you go. That's something that she
• 1:33:39
  has to deal with. Yes, she does. And I'm sorry for yelling,
• 1:33:43
  but, like I just the right. Reality is that the right is
• 1:33:47
  actually, even if they are not okay, right politicians, they are very
• 1:33:55
  formiable who are going to stand up and say, no, this oppressive narrative
• 1:34:00
  is wrong. It is one hundred and fifty percent wrong. Yes to any
• 1:34:03
  men, and we are not going to use it against any group of men,
• 1:34:08
  even people that we think are men. Okay, maybe there's no politician
• 1:34:12
  who's going to stand up for that, but the small person on the right
• 1:34:17
  actually has space in their mind and their will to talk about these issues and
• 1:34:25
  to care about them. The left doesn't. Yes, Okay, I look,
• 1:34:31
  I still I'm not mad at Shoe. I just want to be clear.
• 1:34:35
  I'm just I think that we can't do this by ourselves. We're too
• 1:34:41
  small, we don't have a lot of reach. I'm willing to work with
• 1:34:44
  anyone that is willing to listen. And only the right has been listening to
• 1:34:47
  me and Karen, she goes on radio shows all the time. Only right
• 1:34:51
  wing radios bring her on. So there's clearly people on that side that are
• 1:34:56
  grasping at something that will help them. There are there are people on the
• 1:35:00
  right, and I include libertarians when I say that that are like, there
• 1:35:04
  is a problem with our population. It is collapsing. People are not forming
• 1:35:08
  families. What are we gonna do? None of this left is shit is
• 1:35:11
  gonna last once, like enough collapse has happened. And the left never wants
• 1:35:15
  to talk to us. They are completely hostile. They are okay with casting
• 1:35:19
  us in the worst possible light. They just want to keep getting their free
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  ship, and they're okay with men working themselves to death to give it to
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  them. Yes, there are problems, are a justification. There are appression
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  of affulants and a justification why they're owed in an affulant world. The proceeds
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  of children that haven't even been born yet, and the proceeds of other nations
• 1:35:42
  around the world that are poorer period that are just a self justification. Yes,
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  And why you get to sit on your aristocratic ass and suck up other
• 1:35:50
  people's resources. Yeah, okay, that there they are, the aristocracy and
• 1:35:58
  the sixteenth rants. They're they're sitting on their endowments there there what is it
• 1:36:06
  called trust funds? Basically, they're welfare aristocrats in sixteenth century France, they
• 1:36:15
  got money for just existing, just existing. That was communist for the aristocrats.
• 1:36:23
  But guess who had to pay for it? And there is somebody paying
• 1:36:27
  for this stuff? Yeah, And if it's not you, if it's not
• 1:36:30
  people in the West, and it's is it is the tax peers in the
• 1:36:33
  West, it's other nations who who have who have to deal with this osmotic
• 1:36:39
  pump of resources going into the West. And I know this might this,
• 1:36:45
  I might sound like a fucking socialist, but I think that's more important than
• 1:36:53
  continuing to indulge the fantasies of expressions of affulence in the West, which is
• 1:36:58
  the entirety, almost the entire the left, but The thing that I wanted
• 1:37:01
  to say is I think that Republican politicians are useless. Yes, people,
• 1:37:09
  small people on the right will listen to us, but I think that ultimately
• 1:37:15
  the changes that need to be made have to start with doing something different,
• 1:37:19
  and we are doing something different here. We are saying that you cannot period
• 1:37:29
  believe or perpetuate the lie that the primary relationship, that the primary description of
• 1:37:35
  the relationship between men and women is one of oppression. Okay, that men
• 1:37:42
  oppressed women. I also don't think that women oppress men. I have my
• 1:37:45
  own reasons for that. I won't get into it. But this is the
• 1:37:47
  one, that's the big one. That men oppressed women. That is one
• 1:37:50
  hundred percent false. And if you cannot stand and say that is one hundred
• 1:37:56
  percent false. The primary expression of men towards women throughout all of human history,
• 1:38:02
  almost no exception, is protection and provision period. If you cannot say
• 1:38:09
  that, if you cannot understand that, if you cannot internalize it, you
• 1:38:13
  are not going to be part of the part of the solution. You are
• 1:38:15
  going to be part of the problem. I don't care what position you have
• 1:38:19
  in the four quadrants of the chart. This is what matters. This is
• 1:38:26
  the what is what is the word for it? This is the point,
• 1:38:30
  the line in the sand. What is the word for it? The event
• 1:38:36
  horizon, I'm not sure. This is the flash point, whatever you call
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  it. This is the line. You either get away from believing that men
• 1:38:48
  oppressed women and construct a society for their own benefit at the expensive women,
• 1:38:54
  or you're doing fuck at all. And it doesn't matter if you're Republican or
• 1:38:57
  democrat label or socialist. I don't know how you are going to be left
• 1:39:00
  and still incorporate men's issues because all of the shit that we're talking about.
• 1:39:04
  But if you do it, bully, you know you have a have a
• 1:39:11
  medal for for those mental gymnastics. But whatever, it doesn't matter your political
• 1:39:15
  position. It all comes down to that choice. Well, I you know,
• 1:39:18
  I believe it not. I don't think that men want the state to
• 1:39:23
  help them. I think that men want the state to get out of their
• 1:39:26
  way. And I think that the because men that I think the existence of
• 1:39:30
  a welfare state or whatever the left want it presumes that men would never give
• 1:39:38
  their resources or take care of women without the state's intervention. And that and
• 1:39:43
  that is an actual hateful presumption to make because obviously men work to support women
• 1:39:49
  and families. So when you say, well, because feminists will always say
• 1:39:55
  this, right like, you're not going to take care of her, right
• 1:39:58
  you You just gonna let everything that you you earn. It's your stuff,
• 1:40:00
  it's your stuff that you want to keep. And I'm just like men don't
• 1:40:03
  want that. They want to be free to choose the good. That's what
• 1:40:09
  they want. They want to be free to earn so that they can give
• 1:40:13
  what they work for to their families. That's what I do. I work
• 1:40:16
  here on this show and all of my money goes right into our house,
• 1:40:20
  our food, our our utilities. Why because I love my wife, Lindsey,
• 1:40:26
  and I love my dog Jojo, and that's it for gas the car.
• 1:40:30
  Don't do much for myself, and I just because that's what I want
• 1:40:32
  and I want to be able to do that. And I think that's what
• 1:40:35
  most men want, even gay men, they want to do that for their
• 1:40:41
  partners. So if you institute policies to redistribute wealth, you are telling men
• 1:40:47
  that they can't be trusted to do it. Yeah, you're telling men that
• 1:40:54
  they can't be trusted to do it. And you're limiting their ability to do
• 1:40:56
  so, and you're limiting their ability to actually do it. Right. We
• 1:41:00
  don't have an answer for how to juggle all this while still giving people maybe
• 1:41:03
  a soft place to land or whatever the hell were you do. Well,
• 1:41:06
  we have look at these things. I'm not yeah, I'm not talking about
• 1:41:10
  abolishing anything, because I know that we're already like a lot of people are
• 1:41:14
  really in it right now. I'm just saying, like, this is the
• 1:41:15
  thing that we should be like crawling towards if possible, because I think that
• 1:41:21
  it it just it starts with that initial lie of patriarchy, that men would
• 1:41:27
  would only benefit themselves, and that that's kind of a self report honestly on
• 1:41:30
  the part of feminists, because that they're saying that that's what they would do,
• 1:41:35
  and that's literally what they did in the Barbie movie. They're telling you
• 1:41:39
  what they believe, right, So anyway, I'm sorry for that. So
• 1:41:45
  let me I got some stuff to read. You might have blown everybody's I
• 1:41:49
  know, I know I did. I think I used to yell a little
• 1:41:53
  bit on streams before, but I mean I think that I think that there
• 1:41:56
  are I see a lot of frustration. Yeah, it is genuinely frustrating,
• 1:42:00
  but like I do see some I like, I like, I think that
• 1:42:05
  there are people that want to help, and I think that they're just they
• 1:42:12
  don't know the scope of the problem. But I think it's it's starting to
• 1:42:15
  hit them now, people outside of this conversation, out of outside of this
• 1:42:19
  space, right And and I can name I can name Republicans and Democrats that
• 1:42:26
  I think would be good. So it's I'm not like I, like I
• 1:42:30
  said when I was, you know, saying before I never I never wanted
• 1:42:33
  this to be a partisan thing, but they have made this that way.
• 1:42:36
  It's just like when people say, oh, I'm I want to do comics
• 1:42:40
  for comics, Kate, but I don't want this to be political, and
• 1:42:42
  it's like, but it is like, whether you like it or not,
• 1:42:45
  it is so this is the like, whatever we do is not going to
• 1:42:49
  be viewed as a political act. That's right, So you might as well
• 1:42:53
  just let that go and just do what you're gonna do, and you know,
• 1:42:58
  and just like let the chips fall where they make. So I like
• 1:43:00
  Robert F. Kennedy, I like Vivic Ramaswamy, I like Tulsa Gabbard.
• 1:43:05
  I mean, you know, I'm I like those people. I still like
• 1:43:10
  Trump too, sorry, but I do. And I think that, oh,
• 1:43:14
  I like Josh Holly, So I mean, I think there are people
• 1:43:15
  that are They're like, they're close ish, they're on their way, and
• 1:43:19
  all we gotta do is, wait, we just keep having these conversations,
• 1:43:24
  like you know, we've already we're at the point now where even feminists have
• 1:43:28
  to acknowledge men's problems, which they wouldn't do, you know, like six
• 1:43:32
  years ago, five years ago. Maybe now they have to and they're just
• 1:43:36
  gonna like try and co opt it. But that's okay, we know that's
• 1:43:39
  going to happen, right. We're at the point now where the word missentry
• 1:43:43
  is using is seeing use outside of these spaces. And we're also at the
• 1:43:47
  point where people like Jordan Peterson are you know, Andrew Tad and also on
• 1:43:53
  are being like lambassad in the media, Pearl et cetera. By the way,
• 1:43:57
  I'm gonna be having Pearl on soon. And yeah, like she's she's
• 1:44:02
  visiting family in Chicago. Pearls from Chicago. I didn't know that, but
• 1:44:06
  yeah, she's seeing family in Chicago. And then when she gets back,
• 1:44:10
  we're gonna set up a date. So talking about so I've yeah like that.
• 1:44:15
  No, No, it's it's okay, it's just that it's okay.
• 1:44:18
  I'm I try to be I try to be plugged into what's going on and
• 1:44:23
  where people are at. And I think that, I mean, I'm just
• 1:44:28
  responding to what I've seen. I may not be right, because who knows.
• 1:44:30
  You know, we don't have that the three hundred and sixty degree vision
• 1:44:34
  that tells us exactly how things are shaking out. But based on stuff I've
• 1:44:40
  seen around, that's kind of the impression I get is that there are people
• 1:44:44
  that see this problem and there and they're can not like I know, I
• 1:44:50
  know matters if we can't pay for anything. Yes, we've run out of
• 1:44:56
  our great grandchildren's money. Guys. Yeah, like we're just we're just sucking
• 1:45:00
  people, the taxpayers money dry and the future generations. And most of those
• 1:45:03
  people are men. When I acknowledge that most of the men are a tax
• 1:45:10
  what do you call it? They pay into the taxation overall the net,
• 1:45:13
  Yeah, like a net contributor. And women are a net not that women
• 1:45:16
  aren't paying taxes, but like women are taking more out and they're putting in
• 1:45:21
  so like, that's not a sustainable model, and women are not gonna have
• 1:45:26
  to. They're not gonna want to work for their whole life the way that
• 1:45:28
  men are willing to. And you know they maybe they shouldn't have to,
• 1:45:31
  Maybe they should be able to just you know, do it for a while,
• 1:45:34
  save up some money, then like quit, retire, marry a guy.
• 1:45:38
  Whatever it is. Maybe that model is okay, because like when you
• 1:45:42
  try to invert it, when you try to make women the bread winners and
• 1:45:45
  men are the they at home dads. In some cases that works, but
• 1:45:48
  it looks like in you know, women are not happy with that and they
• 1:45:53
  and you know, they're they're like, why is the divorce rate so high?
• 1:45:57
  Oh? I don't know. So it works really well for kids,
• 1:46:00
  Yeah, if you want to, if you want a really mentally healthy,
• 1:46:04
  intelligent super child, get a stay at home dad. Yeah, Like they
• 1:46:11
  do really well with fathers. Oh I know, I know, Yeah,
• 1:46:15
  kids do really well with dads. But look look at how feminist treets stay
• 1:46:17
  at home dads. You remember all the articles that we have read where feminists
• 1:46:21
  are lamenting the fact that like stay at home dads are celebrated simply for existing,
• 1:46:26
  like Oh, everybody's so happy. It's like, well, men can't.
• 1:46:29
  Can we get men credit for anything? Like, well, when we
• 1:46:31
  think all we do is endlessly discourage them. So like what women are celebrated
• 1:46:36
  when they do men's roles. Women are celebrated when they do nothing, Yeah,
• 1:46:41
  to talk to them. Women celebrated like oh oh look woman, women
• 1:46:44
  is doing this male dominated Like why wouldn't she celebrate men for going into something
• 1:46:49
  that's a usually female occupation? And then what's really hilarious is that would we
• 1:46:56
  accept that, Like would the mainstream media be okay with men saying, oh,
• 1:47:00
  why do we celebrate women going into men's occupations? We don't celebrate men
• 1:47:04
  going into men's I'd have never even heard someone say that. The first time
• 1:47:10
  I heard that said, is me right now? This isn't even something that
• 1:47:14
  men conceive of saying, and this is this is the amount of resentment even
• 1:47:18
  say, well, why do we celebrate men going into women's occupent because they're
• 1:47:23
  doing something unexpected and it shouldn't be on it. It shouldn't. You're right,
• 1:47:27
  it should be normalized. That's something that should be normalized. Men taking
• 1:47:30
  care of their kids there should be no problem. Absolutely career woman wants to
• 1:47:38
  have children with a stay at home father. Why not, Like, seriously
• 1:47:44
  and honestly, if feminism was about getting rid, genuinely getting rid of the
• 1:47:48
  stigma around being a career woman and having a stay at home spouse, if
• 1:47:54
  they genuinely were, then I would actually have more willing I'd be more willing
• 1:47:58
  to support them. I mean, everything else makes me not want to support
• 1:48:00
  them, but that would be a good thing. That would be something I
• 1:48:03
  could point to and say, Hey, feminists, Yeah that's good. You
• 1:48:06
  are applauding men taking or you know, staying at home taking care of their
• 1:48:11
  kids. You're saying, yeah, they should be and they should be celebrated
• 1:48:15
  until it's normalized. Ye, And and nobody even remarks on it, and
• 1:48:19
  nobody side eyes the career woman and says, do you do. He's a
• 1:48:24
  bit of a parasite, isn't he He's take a bandage of views. Yeah,
• 1:48:30
  sure, for sure, if they actually if they actually did the work
• 1:48:35
  to make it more people accept other people's life choices that aren't negative. Okay,
• 1:48:44
  Like I'm not talking about sex parties where you have sex with like three
• 1:48:46
  hundred other men. Another shit like that. Utter degeneracy that really it's at
• 1:48:54
  that point it's like, is that really sexual or is this your way of
• 1:48:57
  flagellating yourself? And and it's express self harm, you know, like you
• 1:49:01
  don't have to accept stuff like that. But if somebody has arranged their their
• 1:49:05
  life in a way where they feel most happy to contribute to a family and
• 1:49:13
  to society and to the betterment of the human race, it doesn't all have
• 1:49:16
  to look the fucking same. And if they had done that, if they
• 1:49:21
  had made it, if they had kept those ideals, be a good person,
• 1:49:27
  contribute to your family, contribute to your community, be a net benefit
• 1:49:30
  to the human race, a net a provider for others, you know,
• 1:49:34
  if they had said that. But you know what, if you want to
• 1:49:36
  be two men living in a relationship doing that fun, you want to be
• 1:49:40
  two women living in a relationship doing that fun. You want to be a
• 1:49:43
  man and a woman, that's great. Okay. You want to have a
• 1:49:45
  stay at home man, you know, stay at home dad, that's great,
• 1:49:50
  all right, but do that and always put love for the people in
• 1:49:57
  your life and love your neighbor at the center of what you're doing. Yeah,
• 1:50:01
  if they haven't done that, if they had promoted that that kind of
• 1:50:04
  sense of diversity but social responsibility. I have no fucking problem with them.
• 1:50:12
  I don't think anybody would. Well maybe like really really traditionalist conservatives would.
• 1:50:18
  Ah maybe, yeah, maybe, but I mean like maybe, so what,
• 1:50:21
  people can do whatever they want anyway, as long as they're not like
• 1:50:25
  like trying to make it illegal or something, you know. Yeah, I
• 1:50:28
  mean you can have the community of of of ultra conservatism too, yea.
• 1:50:33
  But if everybody keeps that in their heart, their love for their family and
• 1:50:39
  their love for their community, and their desire to serve the human race,
• 1:50:43
  what's the problem. Okay, I got super chows and we're almost at the
• 1:50:49
  top of the hour, so I want to get through it. But Mike,
• 1:50:54
  thank you. Mike sends us hives and as loud Brian donation, thank
• 1:51:01
  you, Mike, sorry for that. And Richard Bierre, I know,
• 1:51:06
  I know it's bad. Richard Bierre gives us fifty dollars and his name is
• 1:51:13
  John six. I think Richard wants that to be his official sound bite when
• 1:51:23
  he donates, because he always writes he's John Cena in there so and he
• 1:51:29
  says for fifty bucks, thank you. That's really really really kind of you.
• 1:51:33
  This is a contribution to the fund to get Brian Allison new microphones for
• 1:51:36
  when they blow out from the shouting. As far as AI replacing office jobs
• 1:51:41
  goes, I remember a news magazine show segment during the Internet gold Rush days
• 1:51:47
  where some firms, Oh the gold Rush days, where some firms which were
• 1:51:51
  providing services with a very small staff would hire job title blank, job title
• 1:51:57
  fake workers so that clients would see a very fully staffed office to cater to
• 1:52:00
  the needs of the customers. Timpool mentioned a company in New York City.
• 1:52:04
  They had a twelve story office building full of people who didn't know what their
• 1:52:08
  individual contributions did for the final product. A different version of the TikTok girls
• 1:52:13
  bragging about their do nothing adult daycare jobs as social media companies als And have
• 1:52:17
  you seen those videos. It's a woman that says, this is a day
• 1:52:21
  and a live working at and it's like some test company and all it is
• 1:52:25
  is them eating avocado toast and getting like custom lattes and hanging out in the
• 1:52:30
  pool and shit, Christ like that's that is a day of work. That's
• 1:52:34
  like, you know, I we get to go to the city, do
• 1:52:38
  our chores like once or twice a month, and I go and I get
• 1:52:41
  myself a bubble tea and what about what about those remember that liquid chocolate stuff
• 1:52:45
  that used to like so much? Yes, but there's nowhere to get it
• 1:52:48
  here. Oh so you gotta go You had to go to Calgary to get
• 1:52:54
  it. No, they don't have it in Calgary anymore. Oh okay,
• 1:53:00
  blank Trudo, thanks Trud. Yeah, it's it's no. Actually, I
• 1:53:03
  think it was just a uh there's a flood in that that particular h oh
• 1:53:10
  okay outlet got hit pretty hard. But yeah, I just I think that's
• 1:53:15
  like that is like that kind of day is as as a treat, you
• 1:53:21
  know, once or twice a month, you get to go and just go
• 1:53:26
  out and have I don't know, like for me a bubble tea and I
• 1:53:30
  get myself some sushi. It's nice because I can just enjoy my time and
• 1:53:35
  not think about this shit. I honestly, I know this is really bad.
• 1:53:40
  I never really talk about this with people. I know you do,
• 1:53:43
  Brian, but I it's like when I'm when I'm not talking about this on
• 1:53:46
  here or working on videos, I'm I don't want to talk about this.
• 1:53:51
  No, offense, guys. It's just it's just too fucking much any time,
• 1:53:57
  you know what I mean, Yeah, I hear you. I'm not
• 1:54:00
  I'm like, I'm not the most impressively social person. So I don't know
• 1:54:03
  how to how to broach these topics in a way that isn't immediately off putting.
• 1:54:11
  M Yeah, although insantly enough, like I uh, the community that
• 1:54:17
  I'm in, I get the sense that it's it's more conservative. Which community
• 1:54:25
  here that you're in, Well, Calvington, Oh where you live? Oh?
• 1:54:29
  Yeah, small town people try that in a small town. Yeah,
• 1:54:31
  yeah, for sure, because we go through a small town that has that
• 1:54:35
  stupid excessive it's a very small town. I think you guys have like one
• 1:54:44
  gas station, one grocery store, one liquor store. Yeah, and a
• 1:54:49
  couple of restaurants, like a Chinese place in a greasy spoon. I don't
• 1:54:54
  know if they're still there, but yeah, and repeat to place now,
• 1:54:57
  Oh wow, y'all coming up? Yeah? Well, I mean they did
• 1:55:00
  have good donuts the greasy spoon. That's at least one thing. Yeah,
• 1:55:04
  But what I've noticed is that the the community seems to be more like there
• 1:55:10
  when when our premier for the province came through in did a little town hall
• 1:55:15
  here. Uh, it was really interesting. He's he's actually his name is
• 1:55:20
  Mode, and he's he doesn't seem like he's that bad a guy. He's
• 1:55:25
  he's been starting to fight for like making Saskatchewan, which is my province,
• 1:55:30
  more independent from the federal government. Yeah, that's good, and stopping some
• 1:55:34
  of the legislation that you know is forcing on everyone. Uh. But uh
• 1:55:41
  but during the town hall, there's like this little little woman who stands up,
• 1:55:45
  you know, she's like clutching her purse with her like pillbox hat with
• 1:55:48
  a lace, and she's like she comes over to the to the the the
• 1:55:56
  the microphone and she says, and what's your paulus see on the w e
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  F Oh wow? Based I don't know that is that a conservative position to
• 1:56:05
  be worried about having to live in the pod and eat the bugs? I
• 1:56:09
  mean, I don't think. So get to get to net zero, not
• 1:56:13
  be able to travel again, basically the entire industry shutting down. I'm like,
• 1:56:17
  how did this little old lady, yeah, the vector for internet culture
• 1:56:24
  into this town hall. She's probably like the biggest troll on like some forum
• 1:56:28
  somewhere she's like lma owing people on Twitter. Yeah, but it was.
• 1:56:34
  And she's holding a little American flag inside the White House on January sixth.
• 1:56:40
  No, I'm sorry, go ahead, I don't down. Yeah, but
• 1:56:45
  recently we had a parade and somebody actually had a fuck Trudeau flag in the
• 1:56:50
  parade. Whoa it was. That was pretty unremarked upon, but he was
• 1:56:55
  just like, yeah, there's a there's a lot of sentiment negatives intimate towards
• 1:57:00
  Trudeau and rural Canada, I tell you, and it's I think it's really
• 1:57:06
  definitely justified. But anyway, we're a little bit yeah, we are a
• 1:57:10
  little definitely all right. I got super chets to read. Thank you Richard
• 1:57:15
  ber for that. Albert Data retro gives us five dollars Canadian says. According
• 1:57:19
  to Daisy Cousins, Ken's don't sleep. They just disappear and then reappear in
• 1:57:23
  the morning. It's kind of like how feminist think men's lives are. They're
• 1:57:27
  only they only exist in when they're oppressing women and then they don't. It's
• 1:57:30
  like, you know, what is it when babies can't? Like if you
• 1:57:33
  play peekaboo, object permanence, that's that's it's that okay, thank you,
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  Albert Emery Calaim Calamy Callum, I don't know, gives us two dollars and
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  says affluent not a oh af fulent. Yeah it's affluent. Yeah, yeah,
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  thanks for the correction, was Alison, she said affluent wrong affulent.
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  I know. I maybe in Canada they because they say z I don't
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  even get that Albert Nada retro gis is five dollars Canadian and says have you
• 1:58:13
  been able to contact Steph aka my nerdy home from Geeks and Gamers? No,
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• 2:00:48
  to this because I want to get to the end of this because there she
• 2:00:51
  does say some good things in here. There have been a lot of left
• 2:00:55
  wing content creators talking about men's issues. If you would have told me this
• 2:00:59
  would be a thing nine year years ago, I would not believe you because
• 2:01:01
  anyone talking about men's issues back in the day was called an MRA or a
• 2:01:06
  pick me. But lately I have seen a lot of good pro men lefty
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  content and I'll put some links to some below. I don't agree with all
• 2:01:14
  the points they say, but I recommend watching. It's much better than they
• 2:01:17
  like having all of the stuff they don't deserve. But the issue is a
• 2:01:19
  lot of this lefty pro men content. It's always framed around how do we
• 2:01:26
  get them? Yeah, that's a good point. Well, no, it's
• 2:01:30
  it is. Yeah. I don't think the rights doing that either. I
• 2:01:35
  think they're just like they assume that men will figure it out, but like,
• 2:01:42
  let's it's conditional, have to what if we have to actually create or
• 2:01:49
  figure out or allow a new meritocracy to form, Like I don't know,
• 2:01:55
  I don't necessarily know what it would look like. Maybe it's something that,
• 2:01:58
  you know, like men's spontaneo invent a new sport out of like a you
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  know, a random rock and a stick that they found, and they just,
• 2:02:09
  you know, suddenly have a new sport that they're playing, and then
• 2:02:12
  women have to get into it. But maybe that's the way these meritocracies start
• 2:02:16
  to develop, and maybe we need to let that happen. That's not a
• 2:02:20
  conservative position as far as I can tell, because it's not conserving anything.
• 2:02:26
  It's actually an act of innovation and new creation. Hopefully, Well it would
• 2:02:30
  have to be informed by an understanding of what men need or an expression of
• 2:02:34
  masculinity, because it probably is going to be something that's constructed by men that
• 2:02:40
  needs to happen. Like that's probably not going to be like a conservative thing
• 2:02:45
  or is like that. So I mean, what if that needs to happen.
• 2:02:48
  What if we need a new form of meritocracy that means we're going to
• 2:02:53
  have a completely new thing that we do. Yeah, and that's like not
• 2:02:58
  going to come from conservatives trying to can serve what we did in the past.
• 2:03:01
  But it has to be something that recognizes what men need or at least
• 2:03:05
  lets men get too down to inventing their new thing. So that's that's something,
• 2:03:14
  you know. I don't know if that's implicitly from the left, but
• 2:03:15
  it's definitely something that's more revolutionary and not about preserving the status quo. So
• 2:03:20
  it's not from the right. Maybe it's just from transcental pill Land. I
• 2:03:28
  don't know. Let's let's keep going there because I'm not where I want to
• 2:03:31
  be yet. I knew this when she said that, because I knew that
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  from the beginning, but because I saw that, you know, Vosh the
• 2:03:36
  guy was talking about the guy who likes horse penis. For some reason,
• 2:03:40
  he had Warren Farrell on his show like a few years ago, and I
• 2:03:43
  watched it and I could tell, like right off the beginning, Vosh's whole
• 2:03:46
  goal wasn't necessarily to like talk about men's issues. It was to basically say,
• 2:03:53
  Warren, why are you siding with Nazis and fascists? And that was
• 2:03:58
  it, And Warren was like, I vote Democrat every year. Warren Farrell's
• 2:04:01
  very left, okay, and look at how he's treated by his people.
• 2:04:06
  So I mean it's fine, Like I get it. I think Warren Farrell's
• 2:04:11
  a really sweet guy. But you know, they're kind of proving the point.
• 2:04:15
  So but anyway, let's let's keep going as if men are just pawns
• 2:04:20
  and tools for your What are these people on the left because they want to
• 2:04:27
  embrace our liberalism? If they're all in the more open minded, shall we
• 2:04:30
  say? Is it because they want to help people, they want to embrace
• 2:04:35
  new ideas or is it because they want someone to hate? I think it's
• 2:04:42
  partly the ladder, but also not necessarily that they care about people, but
• 2:04:46
  that I think it's a lot of it. It just comes down to how
• 2:04:48
  they were educated. I think that it's like saying, why are people feminists,
• 2:04:51
  Well, it's because it's the only world who they've been given. I
• 2:04:55
  think that if you go to if you go to public school, if you
• 2:04:57
  turn on your TV, if you watch the news, that's what you're gonna
• 2:05:00
  get. And some people and they get it. And also they don't have
• 2:05:03
  a lot of these people are growing up in families without a father figure or
• 2:05:06
  a father period, and so what do they get. They pick up women's
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  ways of being, women's ways of learning, women's ways of you know,
• 2:05:16
  essentially organizing, and so they want to essentially planned world because they lived and
• 2:05:23
  essentially planned home. I don't think that it's because they are hateful, but
• 2:05:29
  I think that there is a conditioning that's been going on longer than we've been
• 2:05:32
  alive that is sort of like has been coming. It's it's not recently come
• 2:05:38
  to fruition. It's probably been in the last fifty years, but it's yeah,
• 2:05:42
  definitely a thing that's been happening. So that's what I think it is.
• 2:05:45
  And I say this with all sympathy, like I have lefty friends I'm
• 2:05:48
  not. I don't hate them, I really don't. I hate the ideology.
• 2:05:53
  I don't hate the people, but I think that that's what it is.
• 2:05:57
  I don't think that they're they've considered human nature, because that's kind of
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  what you know, leptism requires for you to abandon human nature and see everything
• 2:06:06
  as socialization. And on the other hand, I think hand caps have the
• 2:06:11
  same problem because they think that people can be robots and that they don't have
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  like, you know, the ability to like act in a way that doesn't
• 2:06:17
  go along with the you know, the what the what and caps want or
• 2:06:21
  what commies want. So I think it's a problem that hasn't been sufficiently analyzed,
• 2:06:29
  and the people who do the best work talking about it guys like Thomas
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  soul and Martin Martin Freedman I think is or Milton Friedman and oh, I
• 2:06:40
  forget his name, but he passed away recently, like a few couple of
• 2:06:44
  years ago. They they have known this, and they've been talking about this
• 2:06:48
  and beating the drum on this, but like nobody wants to listen to them.
• 2:06:51
  They get silenced and they're not brought onto any programs and they're not given
• 2:06:56
  a platform and so we never learn it. So yeah, I mean that's
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  that's a shame. I mean, my mother, you know, she goes
• 2:07:03
  to church, she's conservatives, super Christian, but she's a leftist. And
• 2:07:08
  I think it has too the fact that she's a woman. I think that's
• 2:07:11
  what I'm saying, Like this comes down to more than anything. Gender differences
• 2:07:15
  are as much a part of that because it sort of frames their their value
• 2:07:20
  system and so that you know, I say this again with all due consideration
• 2:07:26
  to that, I think that leftism is inherently feminine. And you know,
• 2:07:30
  right ism, I don't even think it's a word, is more masculine,
• 2:07:33
  I mean not absolute. So I know there are men that are more this
• 2:07:38
  way and women that are more that way. Karen is a libertarian, for
• 2:07:41
  example, but and Hannah is two But uh yeah, I think that that's
• 2:07:46
  where the where the pendulum swings between. It's along the lines of gender more
• 2:07:53
  than anything else. Well it certainly is now but yeah, but simply because
• 2:07:58
  like the left is just gone full born too man hatred. The thing I
• 2:08:03
  wanted to point out is that the left has a lot of pieties, and
• 2:08:05
  I think that attracts women. Piety, Yes, well, it's it's a
• 2:08:09
  it's a yeah, it's because human beings have a religious nature. So why
• 2:08:15
  do you think, you know, in the BLM protests that were white people
• 2:08:18
  washing the feet of black people. I mean it's not I'm sorry, but
• 2:08:22
  like, I don't think that I don't think that atheism is enough to eliminate
• 2:08:30
  religion, religiosity in human beings. I mean, James Lindsay's been doing a
• 2:08:33
  series of videos on that shows how wokeness where it comes from them Jesus washing.
• 2:08:43
  Yeah, I know, Yeah, I know that, I know,
• 2:08:46
  but I mean they're they're they're really, they're really well, doesn't matter.
• 2:08:50
  It's about servitude though, Like they're they're doing this as a service to blacks,
• 2:08:54
  right. They may get the they may get the allegory mixed up,
• 2:08:58
  but the point is they're they're they're engaging in ritualistic practice, and it doesn't
• 2:09:03
  matter like what it's for, whether it's for whether it's for God or Allah
• 2:09:09
  or you know, the Badhisatva or or you know wokeness, you know Karl
• 2:09:13
  Marks, whatever it's it's it's it's a thing about people. I mean,
• 2:09:18
  some people can be logical enough to not do that, but I think that
• 2:09:22
  the average normy person, you know, and and the I think anyway,
• 2:09:28
  James Lindsay trying to prove that it's wokeness is a cult, and he's got
• 2:09:31
  and they they're actually the people who have wrote on this, like marcusa and
• 2:09:35
  stuff. They you can see where they get this kind of like you know,
• 2:09:39
  ritualistic framing from so but that is a completely different rabbit hole that we
• 2:09:48
  don't have time for. So we should continue personal politics. How do we
• 2:09:52
  make the left more appealing to men? How do we stop lonely men from
• 2:09:56
  moving to Andrew Tate instead of just how do we help men? And I
• 2:10:00
  think that's a really big issue. Both sides seem to treat men as political
• 2:10:03
  fodder, disposable soldiers in the culture war and real war. Anyway. I
• 2:10:09
  know she doesn't say it explicitly, but I think she's suggesting that the right
• 2:10:13
  is more prone to throw men into war like situations to get them killed.
• 2:10:18
  And I don't think that's true. Where we were not in a we didn't
• 2:10:22
  Trump started no wars in his time, and now we're doing this Ukraine thing
• 2:10:26
  and men in Russia and Ukraine are all dying and it's bad period. But
• 2:10:33
  I mean at the end of the day, like at least when it comes
• 2:10:35
  to war, I think that in depending on the circumstances, something like this
• 2:10:45
  is it might be necessary sometimes and I think that men generally will step up,
• 2:10:50
  not all of them obviously, but some will if they think the cause
• 2:10:54
  is just The problem is is that it's too easy to exploit men's desire to
• 2:10:58
  protect women for the purposes of war. But that's not even in that case.
• 2:11:05
  As awful as that is. Men suffering at home or you know where,
• 2:11:09
  where they feel like the enemy is like their own society, I think
• 2:11:16
  that's probably a more serious problem. Well, it's are more serious problem for
• 2:11:22
  the society. I mean, like, yeah, I don't want to downplay
• 2:11:24
  what the ship that men went through through the world wars. Yeah, sure,
• 2:11:28
  I know again, and I know a lot of that did not have
• 2:11:31
  to happen. Like also, like they were expected, for example, in
• 2:11:35
  World War One, the soldiers that went were expected to come back and just
• 2:11:41
  resume their lives without bothering anyone about it. Yeah, it was unbelievable,
• 2:11:46
  Like the and the kind of shit that women were saying to men, not
• 2:11:52
  all women, but like that even that any woman would feel entitled to pontificate
• 2:11:58
  about a man manhood after he went through that shit is astounding to me that
• 2:12:05
  she would feel like she had the right to opine on it. But get
• 2:12:09
  regardless, this is so, this is something that our society I think has
• 2:12:11
  been dealing with for a while. It's really good to a head because now
• 2:12:16
  it's it's impeding our future. Like, yeah, this is what happens.
• 2:12:22
  Every civilization just pushes away its shadow side until it gets consumed by it.
• 2:12:31
  And sometimes it isn't necessarily that it's going to fall. Sometimes the civilization that
• 2:12:41
  pushes and pushes away its shadows self and then for whatever reason, suddenly realizes
• 2:12:46
  or suddenly embraces it, and then they have another thousand years now. And
• 2:12:52
  if you want to know what the what the civilization's shadow self is, you
• 2:12:56
  got to look at whatever it pushes the way most hardest. Yeah, that's
• 2:13:03
  the shadow and if it's going to survive another thousand years, it's gonna wake
• 2:13:07
  up and embrace it. Okay, okay, Let's Gondry is real good finally,
• 2:13:13
  And while it doesn't systemically affects cismen, it most certainly affects trans men.
• 2:13:18
  So This may have gotten cut off, but the person said anyway,
• 2:13:22
  missentry is real, and while it doesn't systemically affect CIS men, it most
• 2:13:28
  certainly affects trans men. Missinry exists women most affected. The only people that
• 2:13:39
  can be affected by misinry, which is the hatred of men, are men
• 2:13:45
  who used to be women. Oh yeah, as great. At least the
• 2:13:56
  word is getting used, right. At least the word is getting used.
• 2:14:00
  Oh y'all talking about missandri doesn't horror men, and trans men are right there
• 2:14:05
  reading this ship. By the way, I see now we only care about
• 2:14:07
  missandri because it affects trans meant everyone stop, It's affecting a group I care
• 2:14:11
  about. Now. I love how the rhetoric just like evolved overnight from male
• 2:14:16
  tears to sis male tears, and I just have to ask, why aren't
• 2:14:20
  you including trans men in your messandri? Well, that's transphobia. This is
• 2:14:28
  the video of the trans man that's uh feeling really lonely because I think he's
• 2:14:35
  literally liking this video buys shoe no offense. But she's she's hitting the she's
• 2:14:39
  hitting the pot, she's in those circles. I mean, like, yeah,
• 2:14:45
  this has been I mean I knew all this anyway, I knew it,
• 2:14:48
  but she's putting it out there and I have to commend her for that.
• 2:14:52
  So here's the this is a trans man on TikTok. Nobody told me
• 2:14:56
  how lonely being a man. We knew what depth felt like before we transition.
• 2:15:03
  We knew what it felt like to help people want to hug us and
• 2:15:07
  to have people want to talk to us, and to have a community.
• 2:15:11
  And then you transition and you're just a guy walking down the street that people
• 2:15:15
  cross the street so that they're not near you, and friendships are so much
• 2:15:18
  harder to build. Well, yes, because his feminists say that men are
• 2:15:24
  bad in groups, and he passes pretty well. He looks like the guy
• 2:15:28
  from Breaking Bad. I mean, you would never really know. Yeah,
• 2:15:33
  I'm sure that. I'm sure that the average woman would be happy to avoid
• 2:15:35
  him completely out of fear. Congratulations. I hope that a man. I
• 2:15:41
  hope that you didn't do that hoping to cash in on that male privilege,
• 2:15:45
  because should have read some Norah Vincent. I hope you're becoming a man satisfies
• 2:15:52
  you emotionally to the point where losing all the privilege that you will now be
• 2:15:58
  highly aware that you had as a woman. It doesn't you know, it's
• 2:16:03
  irrelevant, m But Okay. The other thing is that, yes, he
• 2:16:09
  passes as a man, but how much is he hormonally like the average man.
• 2:16:20
  Yeah, well, I think that's why this is so upsetting for him,
• 2:16:22
  because I think the average man will deal with the same thing, but
• 2:16:24
  they'll probably be better equipped to deal with it. It doesn't mean that it's
• 2:16:28
  doesn't mean that it's less bad, but I want and this is why I
• 2:16:35
  talk about the fact that we are woefully like, we are so primitive when
• 2:16:39
  it comes to understanding men's psychology as its own thing. Perfectly. We have
• 2:16:43
  like a bunch of ch leech peddlers in the association, the American Association for
• 2:16:50
  Psychology that basically is turning masculinity into a mental illness. Like they're they're pretty
• 2:16:56
  much flat out saying that at this point. And I called it, by
• 2:17:01
  the way, as soon as I saw that that APA guidelines on men and
• 2:17:03
  masculinity, they were interesting towards calling it a mental illness. So oh cool,
• 2:17:09
  good, being a male is a mental illness? Great? Okay,
• 2:17:13
  cool, Well let's see where this goes. Well, they're basically doing that.
• 2:17:18
  Now. Now, when I saw that, I'm like, they don't
• 2:17:24
  recognize that men have a psychology separate from the feminine that is perfectly valid,
• 2:17:31
  and so we have absolutely no understanding of it in a real sense except for
• 2:17:37
  some like side psychology. Like I don't know what these psychologists are doing.
• 2:17:41
  I guess there's just creeping around the basement of the psychological building doing actual science
• 2:17:46
  and ducking the wokeis. So we do have a bit of scholarship on actual
• 2:17:52
  masculine psychology, not enough, so we don't know the function, the psychological
• 2:17:58
  function, like you can have remember that cute little like video of the boys
• 2:18:05
  digging a gigantic hole. And then what happened is that there was a boy
• 2:18:11
  digging a hole, and then another boy joined him, you know, completely
• 2:18:13
  silently started to help him dig this hole. Then a whole bunch of boys
• 2:18:18
  just and then you know, you got teenage boys and men coming and they're
• 2:18:20
  excavating this hole, you know, and silence and silence. But they're all
• 2:18:26
  digging this hole in the beach and it's like huge becoming a hazard. And
• 2:18:33
  I say that only because it's humorous and all. Always you know, like
• 2:18:37
  maybe some conversation, but mostly quiet, and they're all happily engaged in this
• 2:18:43
  activity. It is that not a form of being social and bonding. But
• 2:18:50
  without saying anything, it's it's like they come together, they do something together,
• 2:18:54
  and they gain a sense of a shared purpose, a sense of a
• 2:19:00
  community action, a sense of camaraderie, ship, a sense of brotherhood from
• 2:19:03
  that shared activity. Does this man, who, no matter what happens,
• 2:19:09
  will not have a normal male hormonal system, right, Does he understand that
• 2:19:18
  when he walks past a hole that a bunch of other guys are digging,
• 2:19:22
  that you need to stop and start digging with them and then enjoy whatever pro
• 2:19:28
  social fodder is being shared psychological is being shared among the men in order to
• 2:19:35
  get his fill of human companionship. See what I'm saying. But we don't
• 2:19:41
  know what function that does because nobody studies it, because men isn't valid masculinity.
• 2:19:46
  It could be that men are getting plenty from that, and part of
• 2:19:50
  the problem is that we don't give them enough opportunities to engage in the kind
• 2:19:54
  of pro social friendship that they engage in because it doesn't look like women's friendships.
• 2:20:01
  Right, This guy may never really understand that. We never really come
• 2:20:05
  to the point because he doesn't even like this. They're pushing these former women
• 2:20:11
  into something, into becoming something they have absolutely no clue anything about it.
• 2:20:16
  I mean, maybe at some point when he identified as she, the psychiatrist
• 2:20:22
  or a psychologist who had this scholarship around masculinity could have explained this to him
• 2:20:30
  and then made his transition less painful. Either maybe he wouldn't have understood it,
• 2:20:35
  or maybe he would understand it and try to develop the skills to accommodate
• 2:20:41
  that way that men relate to each other. Instead, they just shove them
• 2:20:46
  through this irreversible hormonal process, completely blind to male psychology, you know.
• 2:20:52
  And that's okay, Well, let's see how that. Obviously that's not really
• 2:20:56
  working out for this individual. And I'm not even I'm going to talk about
• 2:21:00
  the transition being the problem. I'm going to talk about the absolute ignorance being
• 2:21:05
  the problem, the absolute experience of masculinity and how men conduct themselves socially,
• 2:21:11
  and the absolute void in psychology on these topics. Yep, that is what
• 2:21:16
  caused this. Ye all right, let's play a little more, and I
• 2:21:20
  think we're almost done here. Something so it's hard is none of this invalidates
• 2:21:26
  how real and raw women and people who are in marginal ice groups feel about
• 2:21:31
  sis white men allow that's valid, But I also now understand why the side
• 2:21:37
  rate is so much higher than men. Welcome to being a man. Here's
• 2:21:41
  your complimentary isolation and yellow pillow I about even when he's experiencing the issues of
• 2:21:46
  being a man, He's like, this doesn't invalidate people hating men, gamembro
• 2:21:50
  men struggling don't want to be lectured about the patriarchy. Yeah, it's funny
• 2:21:54
  that there he's acknowledged his loneliness and all of that, but he's still like
• 2:22:00
  he still has to bend the knee and be like, well, this doesn't
• 2:22:03
  invalidate women's experience. Guys want to completely ostracize from any relationship. Doesn't have
• 2:22:11
  Yes, exactly what I'm saying. He has to bend the knee. He
• 2:22:15
  has tom He says. You know what, guys, I think this is
• 2:22:16
  bad. Maybe you should consider what you're doing to men, particularly since the
• 2:22:22
  number of men who are a criminal is very low. They don't represent all
• 2:22:26
  men, and there are also criminal women that are much higher in number than
• 2:22:30
  you are allowing ye, no, none of that. No, we got
• 2:22:33
  to maintain the oppression narrative. Like I said, everything comes down to that,
• 2:22:39
  which side do you do you stand on? Do you believe that men
• 2:22:43
  oppressed women now in historically, at any time period or are you willing to
• 2:22:50
  recognize that that has never been proven to be true? Never? It is
• 2:22:54
  always a reading of history that excludes the obligations placed on men women's limitations and
• 2:23:01
  uh and actually the predominant relationship, what characterizes the predominant relationship by men towards
• 2:23:09
  women is care and provision, not oppression. Okay, if if you're willing
• 2:23:16
  to, if you're willing to cross that rubicon, then you are part of
• 2:23:24
  what can potentially well while the shadow, I guess, recognize the shadow and
• 2:23:31
  moving forward into an actual future. If you can't, well, this is
• 2:23:37
  the world that that idea built. Yeah all right, Yeah, we're at
• 2:23:43
  the end, so let me just finish it. Let's finish it. If
• 2:23:46
  they don't want to be told it's all their faults, they don't want to
• 2:23:50
  be told they're part of the problem, because first of all, they're not
• 2:23:52
  The average twenty year old didn't build society. They go to work, come
• 2:23:56
  home, go off to sissy hypno fetish point and go to bed like everyone
• 2:24:01
  else. I've talked about this before, but a lot of men's value comes
• 2:24:05
  from the money they make. Unfortunately, men are natural. That's not true.
• 2:24:09
  A lot of men's value does not come from the money they make.
• 2:24:13
  It comes from women's approval. Money is a means to get that approval.
• 2:24:18
  I think that's what I mean. I think this is not she said money
• 2:24:22
  they make. I think I think that this is like another I mean,
• 2:24:26
  we'll see. I'm just saying, like, that's it. Let's let me
• 2:24:30
  put it this way. It's left out, but I think it's a crucial
• 2:24:33
  detail. So if you because like men don't just want to acquire stuff,
• 2:24:39
  Yeah, their value, But I think the implication I could be wrong is
• 2:24:43
  that their value to women or to society is the money they make. Let's
• 2:24:46
  see providers, and if they have nobody to provide for, they get into
• 2:24:50
  finndom or send random girls on the internet money. I'm just kidding. But
• 2:24:54
  the fact is a lot of men simply feel like they don't have a purpose
• 2:24:58
  anymore, whether a job or a career that's fulfilling and pays well, or
• 2:25:03
  a woman or family to protect and take care of the world. For men
• 2:25:07
  are lacking purpose and a man will crawl through broken glass for a purpose.
• 2:25:13
  But you know who does what? This is what you're saying, men lack.
• 2:25:18
  Yeah, men need a higher calling. They need aronically, what they
• 2:25:24
  need is people to recognize that they are already building the world that we enjoy.
• 2:25:28
  Yes, and all we have to do is say thank you. And
• 2:25:35
  I think, like that's it. We just have to recognize it. And
• 2:25:41
  because like women, they have no idea how powerful they are in motivating or
• 2:25:48
  demotivating men, and because they've been told that what they do doesn't matter,
• 2:25:54
  so they don't do anything. And men still push forward anyway, hoping that
• 2:26:01
  women will acknowledge them, kind of like the kins, right, they just
• 2:26:07
  want her approval. And yeah, so anyway, she says, she said,
• 2:26:13
  so you know who does give men purpose? I think it's what she
• 2:26:18
  was about to propose. So let's see the purpose. No, no,
• 2:26:24
  no, not him. I say that life as a man is exceptionally difficult.
• 2:26:26
  Wait why not him? Why not? No? I know it's because
• 2:26:33
  she's an atheist. But like, if men go would it be better?
• 2:26:35
  Would it be better to go to Christ or go to j Andrews Tate.
• 2:26:41
  I mean, I'm just saying, like what you're saying that these are the
• 2:26:43
  choices, but you're you're actually kind of eliminating one of those choices. No,
• 2:26:48
  I actually wonder if she's not making a comedic just a just a position
• 2:26:52
  to poke fun at atheists, because you're like, well, she go to
• 2:26:56
  Jesus. I mean, even if you look at jesus story in a secular
• 2:27:01
  lens, it's it's very powerful, it's very moving, and it's calling people
• 2:27:05
  to become better and to recognize the the the importance of staying true to yourself
• 2:27:16
  and the importance of recognizing your own moral code above anything else. Like and
• 2:27:22
  I mean, people forget that that Jesus was. He was a rabbel rouser.
• 2:27:26
  He was, Yes, he was. He was somebody outside the system.
• 2:27:31
  And he was a very caring person, very compassionate, but very disagreeable.
• 2:27:37
  And he hadn't he as far as I can tell from the story,
• 2:27:41
  he had his flaws. Here was probably the the Andrew Tain of his time.
• 2:27:46
  No, I no, I'm kidding, it's I'm not I'm not even
• 2:27:50
  going to try to compare. No, Okay, but you know he had
• 2:27:54
  his flaws, and Satan tempt him and he became He overcame them, and
• 2:28:00
  then he overcame the hatred of others. He did not allow it to change
• 2:28:05
  his decisions about himself in the world. I mean, that's that's an incredibly
• 2:28:09
  powerful heroic narrative. And you know, you could do worse even yea,
• 2:28:16
  even if you don't include what I would consider the more pagan aspects of Christianity,
• 2:28:22
  it's still a really powerful story. And it's a very good model for
• 2:28:28
  being a good person, and not just a good person, but being a
• 2:28:31
  good person in a world that wants you to be a bad person. Yeah.
• 2:28:35
  Well, I mean again, I was just I think that I'd like
• 2:28:41
  to know what she would really think, like, because if a man goes
• 2:28:46
  so if a man is said that it's bad if he goes to Andrew's hate,
• 2:28:50
  but the left offers nothing but vitriol, and so the man instead goes
• 2:28:54
  to christ, right goes to church, whatever becomes a Christian, Like,
• 2:29:01
  is that bad then? Because you know, I feel like, I mean,
• 2:29:05
  I don't think it's wrong to be a fan of Tate, Like I
• 2:29:07
  know that a lot of people don't like him. What I guess what I
• 2:29:09
  mean by that is I wouldn't do it. I think that he's cringe in
• 2:29:11
  a lot of ways. But there's a lot of men that are going there
• 2:29:16
  because there's nothing else on offer. So like, should I just tell everybody
• 2:29:20
  to go to Jesus? Then? Could I just I think one of the
• 2:29:26
  ways that the whole culture around the story of Jesus could be improved is by
• 2:29:33
  simply recognizing that Jesus could only be a man, oh for sure. I
• 2:29:37
  mean I don't know, the same way that Mother Mary can only be a
• 2:29:41
  woman. Yeah, Jesus only have been a man. Yeah, And I
• 2:29:46
  really understand that, And I think that that would would probably remove maybe some
• 2:29:52
  of the anti male messaging around the pagan aspects of that popular culture. I'm
• 2:29:58
  not going to go any further. I'm probably going to insult people, but
• 2:30:01
  anyway, that's good. All right, Let's let's keep going. Let's yeah,
• 2:30:03
  we're almost done here, literally one minute. And the most terrifying thing
• 2:30:07
  about being a manager born without value, society doesn't care about you, the
• 2:30:09
  absolute audacity to act shocked that Andrew Tate is scooping these guys up after a
• 2:30:16
  decade of low mail tears is insane. Andrew Tate isn't the solution to men's
• 2:30:22
  problems, but he is talking to them. The fact is you did not
• 2:30:26
  care about them for years and even now you just want to recruit them,
• 2:30:30
  not help them, and that's why you will fail. And hey, maybe
• 2:30:33
  I'll be the Andrew Tata the left. Men, listen up, watch your
• 2:30:35
  penis. So I guess I'll leave you guys with a question. Why do
• 2:30:39
  you think, maile loneliness has been increasing? What are your solutions for this
• 2:30:43
  problem? And are you dealing with loneliness? And I will see you guys.
• 2:30:50
  Okay, okay, that was amusing. Yeah, honestly, you know,
• 2:30:56
  an Andrew Tate to the left, I think that such a person might
• 2:31:03
  actually embrace the masculine aspects of the left if what we were we were to
• 2:31:09
  look at them like the masculine aspects of the left is innovation, creating something
• 2:31:16
  new, opening up human expression into what is possible, and finding out like
• 2:31:24
  new avenues of exploration. So if you if you look at the right as
• 2:31:28
  being more conservative, more about keeping things together, and you know, men
• 2:31:33
  have a huge portion of that because they want to protect and provide for their
• 2:31:35
  families, and their societies. But there's also that masculine urge to get out
• 2:31:39
  and find the new right, and that could be seen as the masculine side
• 2:31:46
  of the of the liberal or the left paradigm. You know, that might
• 2:31:52
  be that might be, uh, that might be what the liberal the left
• 2:31:56
  Andrew Tate looks like actually innovating that new form of meritocracy that incorporates all the
• 2:32:03
  technological pressures and all of the other crap that we're dealing with. Anyway,
• 2:32:07
  that's what I have to say. Okay, I thought those bad, you
• 2:32:11
  know, yeah, it's not bad. This is what I would add,
• 2:32:15
  and this is Look, don't take this as a criticism against shoot, but
• 2:32:18
  I'm putting this in a broader context as well. So we didn't get into
• 2:32:22
  this today because they didn't have time. But briefly, you guys know Rolo
• 2:32:26
  to Mossi, right, So Ralo has yes because he's blocked you on Twitter.
• 2:32:33
  Rolo has found himself in a bit of a tight spot because he has
• 2:32:37
  been successfully trolled by Lauren Southern and Brittany Venti. Britney Venti, I've never
• 2:32:45
  had her on the show or anything. She's just kind of like an Internet
• 2:32:46
  troll that likes to essentially like take everyone down a peg every so often,
• 2:32:54
  And what they did was, in short, Rollo and Lauren Southern, not
• 2:33:00
  Rollo, Lauren Southern, Brittany vent He tricked Rollo into thinking that they were,
• 2:33:03
  you know, somebody they were not through emails and essentially infiltrated his space
• 2:33:11
  and got him to believe a bunch of lies about Lauren Southern. And then
• 2:33:13
  he went on his streams and he dished on on them, or on Lauren
• 2:33:18
  Southern rather because he upset Britney venty and she's a pretty vengeful person anyway,
• 2:33:24
  point is completely annihilated his credibility. In my opinion, I never cared for
• 2:33:30
  Rollo. I think he's kind of full of shit. But I don't talk
• 2:33:33
  about him on here because I don't think that's important, but because he is
• 2:33:37
  a prominent member in the manisphere, like it or not. One of the
• 2:33:41
  things that I think came out of this is that Britney Venti made a whole
• 2:33:46
  video about it and showed that she had you know, that her and Lauren
• 2:33:50
  Southern were working together to do this, and Lindsay and I thought it was
• 2:33:54
  hilarious because it was nice to see Rollo get taken down a peg and sort
• 2:33:58
  of humbled because his ego is kind of like, I mean, it's bigger
• 2:34:01
  than Tates and that's saying something, right. But but Brittany Venti used that
• 2:34:11
  experience, that video to make a point about the Manisphere in general and said,
• 2:34:16
  the manisphere, this is proof that the manisphere is just the feminists for
• 2:34:22
  men. Right. Basically, the red pill is feminist for men and there
• 2:34:26
  was nothing else said about it. And the reason why this pisses me off
• 2:34:31
  is I don't care that she did that to Rollo. But here's the thing,
• 2:34:35
  though, if you're gonna, like c discredit or criticize or tear down
• 2:34:41
  something and you've and you've because you think that it's bad, but you don't
• 2:34:48
  know that there are people in the same space doing good because the whole thing
• 2:34:52
  is a mixed bag, and you don't or you do know, like Laura
• 2:34:56
  Southern knows about us, but you don't make a point to say, well,
• 2:35:01
  here are people doing good work. But instead you're just silent on the
• 2:35:05
  whole thing. You say, well, the red pill is bad because you
• 2:35:07
  know, here's Rolo Tamasi like the biggest voice or whatever. And he's just
• 2:35:11
  like them. Right. This is exactly what the media does with Tate.
• 2:35:13
  The purpose of it is to discredit the entire menacephere. This is why I
• 2:35:18
  don't I don't go along with the let's all hate this guy thing because it
• 2:35:22
  hurts us because we're associated with them and us making the distinction doesn't really help.
• 2:35:28
  But I think what would have been and I'm not okay, this is
• 2:35:31
  not I'm not mad at anybody, but this is what I say is what
• 2:35:35
  I think would have been nice is if VENTI Southern and Shoe said, here
• 2:35:43
  are some people that I like that are talking about men's issues, that are
• 2:35:48
  that actually care about men and they're not just trying to sell their book or
• 2:35:52
  whatever. And none of that has happened. So I feel like all it
• 2:35:56
  does is it it hurts us because you know, we are, whether we
• 2:36:01
  like it or not, we're associated with the manisphere right with the red Pill
• 2:36:05
  space, whether we like it or not. And so where it's I mean,
• 2:36:11
  I'm glad that we had so many people show up, but you see
• 2:36:13
  what I mean, Like it's there's a little bit of collateral damage from that
• 2:36:16
  and I and in a way, I wish you had said, because she
• 2:36:20
  spoke to you. So it would have been nice if she would have said,
• 2:36:22
  you know, I know these people, the honey Badgers, they are
• 2:36:26
  doing good work. You know. Well, you know not it's not necessarily
• 2:36:30
  her fight, but it would have been nice. Yes, it would have
• 2:36:31
  been very nice. But can I just although she did, you know,
• 2:36:37
  dunk a little on Pearle, and you're gonna be talking to her, so,
• 2:36:39
  you know, I don't really want to get into this. I mean,
• 2:36:41
  I just do my thing. I set my h you know, I
• 2:36:46
  make my decision that what I am going to stand for, and you are
• 2:36:52
  understanding. No, No, it's okay. Ye, the chips fall where
• 2:36:54
  they may. I it isn't really annoying a little bit. Well, you
• 2:36:58
  know, I'll say a little annoying to be lumped in the same pot with
• 2:37:03
  a man who blocked you. Yeah, like he's I'm I'm pretty sure that
• 2:37:09
  I got blocked by Rollo well before either you two ladies. And I didn't
• 2:37:15
  do have to do much at all. I just had to be like,
• 2:37:18
  well, you said this, but the but the but then you said this
• 2:37:22
  and and this seems to be a contradictory, and it's like blocked. Yeah,
• 2:37:26
  you know, that's it. I just had to do a little tism
• 2:37:31
  and and then he was like, no, I don't want to do with
• 2:37:33
  you, and uh so, but to be blumped in with that and also
• 2:37:39
  what is it they're calling him out for his gigantic ego, his person No,
• 2:37:43
  I don't you know. It's a long story, but like he deserves
• 2:37:48
  it. I'll just put it that way. Like Rollo absolutely deserves it.
• 2:37:50
  Yeah, like you need he needed to get knocked out of peg he gets.
• 2:37:54
  His ego is unbelievable. But it was also other things like he he
• 2:37:58
  just they basically like manipulated him because you know, women they're good at that
• 2:38:05
  into essentially like outing himself as like, you know, really gossipy and all
• 2:38:13
  that and so, and of course he like doubled down and stuff, and
• 2:38:16
  he lied to his audience a little bit exaggerated things, and they and Venti
• 2:38:22
  appeared to have proved it. But but like the point is this, though,
• 2:38:24
  like I don't really care about any of that stuff, you know,
• 2:38:28
  And I'm not and I'm not going to bat for Rollo or Tait. I'm
• 2:38:31
  not doing that. I'm just saying that I don't want to participate in the
• 2:38:35
  purity testing that often I see. Instead, I'm just saying, look,
• 2:38:39
  I know people that that take this content seriously, that are doing a good
• 2:38:43
  job. And I'm not just talking about us, And I can point you
• 2:38:46
  to those people, that's all. And so like, I think that if
• 2:38:50
  you're gonna tear down something but you know that it's not all cancer, then
• 2:38:58
  you can probably tell people, well, okay, here are some places that
• 2:39:01
  aren't so bad or that I think are good or whatever, right, and
• 2:39:03
  I don't want them getting lumped in with these people, that's all. And
• 2:39:07
  again, it's not a big deal. I don't care if you do it
• 2:39:09
  or not. But you know, it's just I don't know. It's not
• 2:39:11
  what I would have done, I guess. So that's all. I got
• 2:39:18
  a super chow. Oh yeah, I gotta oh not a super chown.
• 2:39:20
  Sorry. A rumble rant from NOBA Fan twenty one. He says, is
• 2:39:24
  there a TV slash comic slash et cetera male character version of a leftist man
• 2:39:28
  the feminist and lefties point two as a man who advocates for their values as
• 2:39:31
  perfectly as possible. I don't know, I haven't looked into it. Maybe
• 2:39:35
  Green arrow. I don't know. I don't. I'm sorry, I don't
• 2:39:39
  know. I haven't looked into it. I don't really think about that that
• 2:39:41
  much because I don't think it's necessary for men to be put in some kind
• 2:39:46
  of box. So Albert Nato retro gives us five dollars Canadian and says,
• 2:39:52
  anybody affiliate with Fresh and Fit opposers and snake oil salesmen cashing in on fatherlessness
• 2:39:58
  again, I don't. I don't. I'm fuck with Fresh and Fit,
• 2:40:01
  So that's fine. I don't think like I like I said, I don't
• 2:40:05
  think they really represent us. But it doesn't matter because the media does what.
• 2:40:11
  It's like a podcast, like a dating podcast thing. I think,
• 2:40:16
  you know, yeah, they just kind of they bring on thoughts and then
• 2:40:18
  they talk to them about stuff. I don't really like I said. I
• 2:40:22
  don't watch them. I don't know. I don't find it interesting. Sometimes
• 2:40:26
  I'll get a clip from like the Whatever podcast, and I'll watch that if
• 2:40:28
  it's funny. But that's about it. So anyway, that is everything.
• 2:40:35
  So do you have any thank you to give out? Uh? Just thank
• 2:40:41
  you. I think we already thanked the great Indoors for putting one hundred dollars
• 2:40:48
  in my book, the editing of my book. Okay, you're talking about
• 2:40:52
  people who weren't just selling their book, all right, then keep feel secrets,
• 2:40:58
  all right, all right, great indoors, and if you would like
• 2:41:01
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• 2:41:07
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• 2:41:11
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• 2:41:20
  to do on promising manuscripts, but they don't do that anymore. They just
• 2:41:24
  want diversity. They maybe polish up the first three chapters, they don't give
• 2:41:28
  a crap about the rest, and predictably nobody wants to buy anything anymore.
• 2:41:33
  And then, yeah, I think it's like everybody who used to write tumblr
• 2:41:37
  blogs is now like writing professionally, so I would not remember fan fiction.
• 2:41:46
  They're all trying to make the new fifty Shades of Gray. Yeah, they're
• 2:41:50
  all trying to make the new fifty Shades of Gray. It's all dystopian.
• 2:41:52
  It's all really antimail, not all of it. Occasionally it's it's occasionally the
• 2:42:00
  the book that is just like uncritically or unself consciously anti Maile. You know,
• 2:42:07
  they have the usual male bully and the male father that beats his kids
• 2:42:11
  another crap like that. But that's just that's just fantasy, like baseline,
• 2:42:16
  right, I'm talking about the stuff that's like, oh yeah, men,
• 2:42:20
  men, all they do is a process. I'm I'm part of a Chinese
• 2:42:26
  town and we're suffering famine under the Mongols, and all the women are dead
• 2:42:31
  because none of the men would feed them. I'm like, wow, that's
• 2:42:35
  really uh, that's that that really is. That's a strategy that's really gonna
• 2:42:39
  work for you in the next generation. It's like, that's basically the the
• 2:42:45
  let's kill ourselves off strategy. Brilliant anyway. So that that's the stuff that
• 2:42:50
  I'm seeing out there in science fiction and fantasy truly horrifying. And if you
• 2:42:54
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  Domino really appreciate she did not really a fan of VENTI. When I heard
• 2:45:01
  her speak on a stream, she talked like someone who frequently went on or
• 2:45:05
  read a lot of our four slash female drading dating strategy. I wouldn't.
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  I don't think she's someone you can trust to say anything she really believes.
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  But you might be right, but she is a troll professionally. She's always
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  fucking with people, so I wouldn't. It's one of those things. I
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  don't think you can really trust anything she says completely. So I mean,
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  I even take that into consideration with her video about the Manisphere, but we'll
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  see. So I'm not all that concerned. I'm just saying like, if
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  you really want to be a part of the solution, it would be nice
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  to direct people in the right direction. All right, Well, anyway,
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  we're gonna wrap it up here. I want to thank you guys so much
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  for coming on today's show. I am hopefully I'm gonna do more bro Force
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  forever with Lindsay after this is over. So maybe join us over on Honey
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  Badger Arcade. Bro Forces a lot of fun and it gives you a bit
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  of a big shot of masculine talk city that maybe we all need a little
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  bit from time to time. So hang out with us over there Honey Badger
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  Arcade. Just look it up on YouTube. Bus a link in the description.
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