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Two Friends, One Podcast, Zero Pressure - Getting to Good Enough is Back! · Getting to Good Enough

• 0:06
  Hey,
• 0:06
  there.
• 0:06
  Welcome
• 0:07
  to
• 0:07
  getting
• 0:07
  to
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  Good
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  Enough.
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  I'm
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  Shannon
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  Wilkinson.
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  And
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  I'm
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  Janine
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  Adams.
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  We're
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  here
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  for
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  practical
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  and
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  fun
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  conversations
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  about
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  living
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  with
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  more
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  ease
• 0:15
  and
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  way
• 0:16
  less
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  stress.
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  Yep.
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  We're
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  all
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  about
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  embracing
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  progress
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  over
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  perfection.
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  So
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  grab
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  a
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  tasty
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  beverage
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  and
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  let's
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  get
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  started.
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  Janine.
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  Hey,
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  Shannon.
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  How
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  you
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  doing?
• 0:28
  I
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  am
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  so
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  happy
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  to
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  be
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  back.
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  Back
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  in
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  the
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  recording
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  studio
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  with
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  you.
• 0:35
  I
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  do
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  feel
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  like
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  recording
• 0:36
  studio
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  might
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  be
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  overstating
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  the
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  situation
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  the
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  tiniest
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  bit,
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  but
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  I'm
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  so
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  exciting.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm
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  so
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  happy
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  to
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  be
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  in
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  our
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  respective
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  home
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  offices
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  in
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  different
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  parts
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  of
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  the
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  country,
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  recording
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  in
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  tandem
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  online
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  in
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  our
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  recording
• 0:54
  studio.
• 0:56
  Okay,
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  recording
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  studio
• 0:57
  sounded
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  better,
• 1:01
  but
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  we
• 1:01
  have
• 1:01
  this
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  whole
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  new
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  video
• 1:03
  situation
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  happening.
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  Right.
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  Because
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  before
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  we
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  were
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  just
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  talking
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  into
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  a
• 1:06
  mic,
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  and
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  now
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  I
• 1:07
  can
• 1:07
  see
• 1:08
  you,
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  but
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  I
• 1:08
  don't
• 1:08
  know
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  where
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  to
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  look.
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  I
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  know
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  it's
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  like,
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  oh,
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  look
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  in
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  the
• 1:12
  camera.
• 1:12
  But
• 1:12
  then,
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  like,
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  I'm
• 1:13
  not
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  looking
• 1:14
  at
• 1:14
  you,
• 1:14
  and,
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  you
• 1:15
  know,
• 1:15
  it's
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  like,
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  zoom.
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  Everyone
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  sort
• 1:17
  of
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  seems
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  to
• 1:17
  be
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  looking
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  slightly,
• 1:20
  not
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  at
• 1:20
  anything.
• 1:21
  Yeah.
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  And
• 1:22
  it's
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  in
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  a
• 1:22
  different
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  configuration
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  from
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  zoom,
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  this
• 1:24
  recording
• 1:25
  platform.
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  Right.
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  It's
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  side
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  by
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  side.
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  So
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  it's.
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  It's.
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  It's
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  a
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  little
• 1:28
  disconcerting,
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  but
• 1:29
  it's
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  a.
• 1:29
  It's
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  a.
• 1:30
  It's
• 1:30
  a
• 1:30
  pleasure.
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  Now
• 1:31
  I
• 1:31
  have
• 1:31
  to
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  have
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  some
• 1:32
  water.
• 1:32
  Yeah.
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  And
• 1:35
  it's
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  just
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  really
• 1:38
  great
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  to
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  be
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  back
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  doing
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  this.
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  I'm
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  so
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  excited
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  to
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  get
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  started
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  again.
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  I
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  mean,
• 1:44
  I
• 1:44
  was
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  ready
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  for
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  it
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  to
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  be
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  over
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  when
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  we
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  ended
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  things.
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  I
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  was
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  good
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  with
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  that
• 1:51
  decision.
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  I
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  didn't
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  regret
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  it
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  for
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  a
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  long
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  time.
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  Well,
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  I
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  guess
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  I
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  never
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  regretted
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  it,
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  but
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  I
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  did
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  start
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  to
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  miss
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  it.
• 2:00
  Right.
• 2:01
  Yeah.
• 2:02
  When
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  we
• 2:02
  decided
• 2:03
  that
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  it
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  had
• 2:04
  stopped
• 2:04
  being
• 2:04
  fun
• 2:04
  and
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  it
• 2:05
  started
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  being
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  a
• 2:05
  chore,
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  and
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  life
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  was
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  getting
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  busy
• 2:08
  and
• 2:08
  weird,
• 2:08
  and
• 2:09
  we
• 2:09
  thought
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  the
• 2:11
  kindest
• 2:11
  thing
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  we
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  could
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  do
• 2:12
  for
• 2:12
  ourselves
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  was
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  to
• 2:13
  jump
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  off
• 2:13
  the
• 2:14
  treadmill
• 2:14
  of
• 2:14
  the
• 2:15
  podcast.
• 2:15
  Right.
• 2:16
  Right.
• 2:16
  And
• 2:17
  then
• 2:17
  I
• 2:17
  can't
• 2:17
  remember.
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  I
• 2:18
  think
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  you
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  were
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  the
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  one
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  probably,
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  who
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  suggested
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  to
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  me
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  that
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  we
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  might
• 2:21
  want
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  to
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  start
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  it
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  up
• 2:22
  again.
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  Or
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  did
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  I
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  suggest
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  it
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  to
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  you?
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  I
• 2:24
  suggested
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  it
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  to
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  you.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  it
• 2:26
  took
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  a
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  couple
• 2:26
  of
• 2:27
  tries.
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  My
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  memory
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  is
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  so
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  bad.
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  That's
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  hilarious.
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  Well,
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  I'm
• 2:34
  glad
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  you
• 2:35
  persisted.
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  Yeah.
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  Well,
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  because
• 2:37
  I.
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  Because
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  I
• 2:38
  thought
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  at
• 2:39
  first
• 2:39
  that.
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  That
• 2:41
  we
• 2:41
  could
• 2:41
  evolve
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  it,
• 2:42
  you
• 2:42
  know,
• 2:42
  like,
• 2:43
  okay,
• 2:43
  we're
• 2:43
  done
• 2:43
  with
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  getting
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  to
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  good
• 2:44
  enough,
• 2:45
  and,
• 2:45
  you
• 2:46
  know,
• 2:46
  maybe
• 2:46
  we
• 2:46
  do
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  something
• 2:47
  like
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  a
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  good
• 2:49
  enough
• 2:49
  life,
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  or,
• 2:50
  you
• 2:50
  know,
• 2:51
  somehow
• 2:51
  take
• 2:51
  it
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  to
• 2:52
  the
• 2:52
  next
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  level.
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  And.
• 2:53
  And
• 2:53
  that
• 2:53
  never
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  quite
• 2:54
  really
• 2:54
  hit
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  for
• 2:56
  either
• 2:57
  of
• 2:57
  us.
• 2:58
  I
• 2:58
  mean,
• 2:58
  I
• 2:58
  was
• 2:58
  Sort
• 2:58
  of
• 2:59
  grasping
• 2:59
  at
• 2:59
  straws.
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  And
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  you
• 3:01
  were
• 3:02
  not
• 3:02
  taking
• 3:02
  the
• 3:02
  bait
• 3:03
  to
• 3:03
  mix
• 3:03
  my
• 3:03
  metaphors.
• 3:08
  Right.
• 3:09
  At
• 3:09
  least
• 3:09
  you
• 3:09
  recognize
• 3:10
  the
• 3:10
  mixture
• 3:10
  of
• 3:10
  the
• 3:11
  metaphors.
• 3:11
  Yeah,
• 3:12
  I
• 3:12
  know.
• 3:12
  I
• 3:12
  noticed
• 3:13
  it
• 3:13
  just
• 3:13
  as
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  words
• 3:15
  were
• 3:15
  about
• 3:15
  to
• 3:15
  come
• 3:15
  out
• 3:15
  of
• 3:16
  my
• 3:16
  mouth,
• 3:16
  but
• 3:16
  I
• 3:16
  felt
• 3:17
  compelled
• 3:17
  to
• 3:17
  finish
• 3:18
  it
• 3:18
  because
• 3:18
  I
• 3:18
  thought
• 3:18
  it
• 3:18
  was
• 3:18
  sort
• 3:19
  of
• 3:19
  funny.
• 3:21
  Yeah.
• 3:21
  So.
• 3:23
  But
• 3:23
  then
• 3:24
  I
• 3:24
  don't
• 3:24
  remember
• 3:26
  why
• 3:27
  you
• 3:29
  were
• 3:30
  more
• 3:30
  on
• 3:30
  board
• 3:32
  this
• 3:32
  spring
• 3:33
  when
• 3:33
  I
• 3:33
  brought
• 3:34
  it
• 3:34
  up
• 3:34
  again.
• 3:36
  And
• 3:37
  then
• 3:38
  we
• 3:38
  had
• 3:38
  the
• 3:38
  opportunity
• 3:39
  to
• 3:39
  actually
• 3:40
  be
• 3:40
  together
• 3:41
  in
• 3:42
  San
• 3:42
  Diego.
• 3:43
  Yeah.
• 3:43
  At
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  YNAB
• 3:44
  Fan
• 3:44
  fest.
• 3:45
  That's
• 3:45
  right.
• 3:45
  That
• 3:45
  was
• 3:45
  so
• 3:46
  fun.
• 3:46
  And
• 3:46
  we
• 3:47
  got
• 3:47
  to
• 3:47
  really
• 3:47
  talk
• 3:47
  about
• 3:48
  it
• 3:48
  in
• 3:48
  person
• 3:49
  then.
• 3:49
  Right,
• 3:50
  right.
• 3:51
  Well,
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  don't
• 3:52
  know
• 3:52
  when
• 3:52
  you
• 3:52
  originally
• 3:53
  brought
• 3:53
  it
• 3:53
  up,
• 3:53
  but
• 3:54
  my
• 3:54
  life
• 3:55
  didn't
• 3:55
  start
• 3:55
  calming
• 3:55
  down
• 3:56
  probably
• 3:56
  until
• 3:57
  this
• 3:57
  spring,
• 3:58
  you
• 3:59
  know,
• 3:59
  to
• 3:59
  the
• 3:59
  point
• 3:59
  where
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  could
• 4:00
  consider
• 4:00
  adding
• 4:01
  something
• 4:01
  like
• 4:01
  that,
• 4:02
  like
• 4:02
  a
• 4:03
  podcast.
• 4:04
  Right.
• 4:04
  Because
• 4:05
  there
• 4:06
  been
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  few
• 4:07
  things
• 4:07
  going
• 4:07
  on
• 4:08
  in
• 4:08
  each
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  our
• 4:09
  lives.
• 4:10
  We
• 4:11
  do
• 4:11
  want
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  give,
• 4:11
  like,
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  little
• 4:12
  synopsis
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  what's
• 4:13
  been
• 4:13
  going
• 4:13
  on
• 4:14
  for
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  for
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  last
• 4:15
  two
• 4:15
  years.
• 4:16
  Yeah.
• 4:16
  Why
• 4:16
  don't
• 4:17
  you
• 4:17
  start?
• 4:19
  Well,
• 4:20
  what
• 4:21
  was
• 4:21
  one
• 4:21
  of
• 4:21
  the
• 4:22
  big
• 4:26
  reasons
• 4:27
  why
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  was
• 4:28
  not
• 4:29
  really
• 4:29
  digging.
• 4:30
  Doing
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  podcast
• 4:31
  in.
• 4:32
  When
• 4:32
  did
• 4:32
  we
• 4:33
  stop
• 4:33
  in
• 4:33
  the.
• 4:33
  I
• 4:34
  guess
• 4:34
  we
• 4:34
  stopped
• 4:34
  in
• 4:34
  the
• 4:35
  summer
• 4:35
  of
• 4:35
  2023.
• 4:37
  I
• 4:38
  had
• 4:38
  had
• 4:38
  a
• 4:39
  shoulder
• 4:39
  surgery
• 4:41
  that
• 4:41
  was
• 4:43
  way
• 4:43
  more
• 4:44
  complicated
• 4:45
  and
• 4:45
  had
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  way
• 4:46
  more
• 4:46
  involved
• 4:48
  recovery
• 4:49
  than
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  expected.
• 4:50
  I
• 4:50
  thought,
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  know,
• 4:51
  oh,
• 4:52
  so
• 4:52
  I'm
• 4:52
  gonna
• 4:52
  be
• 4:52
  in
• 4:52
  a
• 4:53
  sling
• 4:54
  and,
• 4:54
  you
• 4:54
  know,
• 4:54
  but
• 4:55
  I
• 4:55
  could
• 4:55
  still
• 4:55
  sort
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  type
• 4:56
  with
• 4:56
  my
• 4:57
  right
• 4:57
  hand,
• 4:58
  and
• 4:59
  it
• 4:59
  was.
• 4:59
  My
• 5:00
  arm
• 5:00
  was
• 5:00
  basically
• 5:01
  not
• 5:01
  usable
• 5:02
  for
• 5:02
  two
• 5:02
  months
• 5:04
  and.
• 5:05
  Yeah,
• 5:06
  and
• 5:06
  it
• 5:06
  was.
• 5:07
  It
• 5:07
  was.
• 5:10
  Well,
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  did
• 5:11
  end
• 5:12
  up
• 5:13
  graduating
• 5:13
  from
• 5:14
  PT
• 5:14
  at
• 5:15
  eight
• 5:15
  months,
• 5:15
  which
• 5:16
  surprised
• 5:16
  everyone
• 5:16
  because
• 5:17
  I
• 5:17
  had
• 5:17
  such
• 5:17
  a
• 5:18
  bad
• 5:18
  start.
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  thought
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  was
• 5:20
  going
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  need
• 5:20
  a
• 5:20
  full
• 5:20
  year.
• 5:21
  Everyone
• 5:21
  thought
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  would
• 5:21
  need
• 5:22
  a
• 5:22
  full
• 5:22
  year
• 5:22
  pt.
• 5:23
  But
• 5:25
  do
• 5:25
  your
• 5:25
  PT
• 5:26
  exercises
• 5:27
  and
• 5:27
  they
• 5:27
  work.
• 5:28
  It's
• 5:28
  amazing
• 5:29
  those
• 5:29
  people
• 5:29
  know
• 5:29
  what
• 5:30
  they're
• 5:30
  talking
• 5:30
  about.
• 5:31
  Yeah.
• 5:32
  Yeah.
• 5:32
  So
• 5:33
  that
• 5:33
  was
• 5:33
  a.
• 5:34
  That
• 5:34
  was
• 5:35
  sort
• 5:35
  of
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  biggest
• 5:35
  thing
• 5:36
  that
• 5:39
  encouraged
• 5:40
  me
• 5:40
  to
• 5:41
  take
• 5:41
  a
• 5:41
  step
• 5:41
  back
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  make
• 5:42
  a
• 5:43
  different
• 5:43
  choice.
• 5:44
  Yeah.
• 5:45
  And
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  were
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  one
• 5:46
  who
• 5:46
  was
• 5:46
  doing
• 5:46
  the
• 5:47
  editing,
• 5:47
  which
• 5:47
  involved
• 5:48
  a
• 5:48
  lot
• 5:48
  of
• 5:48
  mouse
• 5:48
  work
• 5:49
  and
• 5:49
  stuff,
• 5:49
  I
• 5:50
  think.
• 5:50
  Yeah.
• 5:51
  And
• 5:51
  there's
• 5:51
  only
• 5:51
  so
• 5:52
  much
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  could
• 5:52
  do
• 5:53
  with
• 5:53
  my
• 5:53
  left
• 5:53
  hand.
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  got
• 5:54
  pretty
• 5:54
  skilled
• 5:55
  with
• 5:55
  my
• 5:56
  left
• 5:56
  hand.
• 5:57
  I
• 5:57
  just
• 5:57
  found
• 5:58
  a
• 5:58
  picture
• 5:59
  of.
• 5:59
  Because
• 5:59
  this
• 5:59
  is
• 6:00
  back
• 6:00
  in
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  day
• 6:00
  when
• 6:01
  I
• 6:01
  was
• 6:01
  still
• 6:02
  getting
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  Sunday
• 6:02
  New
• 6:03
  York
• 6:03
  Times,
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  I
• 6:03
  would
• 6:04
  do
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  crossword
• 6:05
  puzzle
• 6:06
  and
• 6:07
  I
• 6:08
  have
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  picture
• 6:09
  of
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  completed
• 6:11
  Sunday
• 6:11
  New
• 6:11
  York
• 6:12
  Times
• 6:12
  crossword
• 6:13
  puzzle
• 6:13
  all
• 6:13
  done
• 6:13
  with
• 6:14
  my
• 6:14
  left
• 6:14
  hand.
• 6:14
  Oh,
• 6:15
  my
• 6:15
  gosh.
• 6:15
  Like
• 6:16
  a
• 6:16
  child
• 6:16
  or
• 6:16
  something.
• 6:17
  Yes.
• 6:20
  Well,
• 6:20
  maybe.
• 6:21
  Maybe.
• 6:21
  Well,
• 6:22
  I'll
• 6:22
  share
• 6:22
  that
• 6:23
  picture
• 6:23
  on
• 6:23
  social
• 6:24
  media
• 6:24
  because
• 6:25
  it's
• 6:25
  pretty
• 6:25
  entertaining.
• 6:26
  Really?
• 6:26
  Yeah.
• 6:29
  Yeah.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:31
  for
• 6:31
  me,
• 6:32
  at
• 6:32
  that
• 6:32
  time,
• 6:32
  it
• 6:33
  was
• 6:33
  dealing
• 6:34
  with
• 6:35
  my
• 6:35
  husband's
• 6:36
  poor
• 6:36
  health.
• 6:38
  His
• 6:38
  heart
• 6:39
  failure
• 6:39
  was
• 6:39
  getting
• 6:39
  worse
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  worse,
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  so
• 6:42
  I
• 6:42
  was
• 6:43
  going
• 6:43
  to
• 6:43
  doctors
• 6:43
  all
• 6:43
  the
• 6:44
  time
• 6:44
  with
• 6:44
  him
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  stuff
• 6:45
  because
• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
  would
• 6:45
  take
• 6:45
  my
• 6:45
  bullet
• 6:46
  journal
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  keep
• 6:47
  track
• 6:47
  of
• 6:47
  everything.
• 6:48
  And
• 6:50
  then
• 6:52
  in
• 6:52
  2024,
• 6:54
  when
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  Mike
• 6:55
  came
• 6:55
  to
• 6:55
  visit,
• 6:56
  and
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  had
• 6:57
  been
• 6:58
  lobbying
• 7:00
  with
• 7:00
  Barry
• 7:01
  to
• 7:01
  move
• 7:01
  from
• 7:02
  our
• 7:02
  two
• 7:02
  story
• 7:03
  house
• 7:03
  into
• 7:03
  an
• 7:04
  apartment
• 7:05
  with
• 7:05
  no
• 7:05
  stairs
• 7:06
  because
• 7:06
  he
• 7:06
  couldn't
• 7:07
  do
• 7:07
  stairs
• 7:07
  without
• 7:08
  being
• 7:08
  completely
• 7:09
  out
• 7:09
  of
• 7:09
  breath,
• 7:10
  you
• 7:10
  came
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  town.
• 7:11
  We
• 7:11
  looked
• 7:11
  at
• 7:12
  an
• 7:12
  apartment
• 7:12
  building
• 7:13
  that
• 7:13
  Barry
• 7:13
  and
• 7:13
  I
• 7:14
  had
• 7:14
  always
• 7:14
  been
• 7:14
  interested
• 7:15
  and
• 7:15
  curious
• 7:15
  about.
• 7:16
  And
• 7:17
  next
• 7:17
  thing
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  know
• 7:19
  where
• 7:20
  he's
• 7:20
  convinced
• 7:21
  us
• 7:21
  that
• 7:21
  we
• 7:22
  can
• 7:22
  move
• 7:22
  there,
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  you
• 7:23
  help
• 7:23
  me
• 7:23
  use
• 7:23
  your
• 7:24
  mad
• 7:24
  money
• 7:24
  skills
• 7:25
  to
• 7:25
  figure
• 7:25
  out
• 7:26
  that
• 7:26
  we
• 7:26
  could
• 7:26
  afford
• 7:27
  it.
• 7:27
  And
• 7:29
  so
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  ball
• 7:29
  started
• 7:30
  rolling
• 7:30
  quickly.
• 7:30
  So
• 7:31
  we
• 7:31
  downsized
• 7:32
  from
• 7:32
  our
• 7:32
  big
• 7:32
  house
• 7:32
  to
• 7:33
  a
• 7:33
  three
• 7:33
  bedroom
• 7:33
  apartment.
• 7:34
  For
• 7:34
  an
• 7:34
  apartment,
• 7:34
  it's
• 7:35
  not
• 7:35
  that
• 7:35
  small,
• 7:35
  but
• 7:35
  it's
• 7:36
  still
• 7:36
  an
• 7:36
  apartment
• 7:37
  with
• 7:37
  no
• 7:37
  basement
• 7:37
  or
• 7:38
  garage.
• 7:38
  Yeah.
• 7:39
  And
• 7:41
  then
• 7:42
  two
• 7:43
  days
• 7:43
  after
• 7:43
  we
• 7:44
  moved
• 7:44
  in,
• 7:45
  Barry
• 7:45
  was
• 7:45
  hospitalized
• 7:47
  and
• 7:47
  he
• 7:47
  stayed
• 7:47
  for
• 7:47
  nine
• 7:48
  weeks
• 7:50
  and
• 7:50
  came
• 7:50
  home
• 7:50
  with
• 7:50
  a
• 7:50
  new
• 7:51
  heart.
• 7:53
  I
• 7:54
  was
• 7:54
  wondering
• 7:54
  when
• 7:54
  you
• 7:54
  were
• 7:55
  gonna
• 7:55
  throw
• 7:55
  that
• 7:56
  part
• 7:56
  in.
• 7:56
  Like.
• 7:57
  Yeah,
• 7:58
  the
• 7:59
  whole
• 8:00
  heart
• 8:00
  transplant
• 8:01
  thing.
• 8:02
  Transplants
• 8:02
  are
• 8:03
  intense
• 8:04
  and
• 8:04
  sort
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  an
• 8:05
  experience
• 8:06
  even
• 8:06
  when
• 8:06
  you're
• 8:06
  not
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  person
• 8:07
  getting
• 8:07
  it.
• 8:07
  That's
• 8:09
  unlike
• 8:09
  any
• 8:10
  other.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:12
  so
• 8:12
  that
• 8:12
  coupled
• 8:13
  with
• 8:13
  moving
• 8:14
  and
• 8:15
  changing
• 8:15
  lifestyle
• 8:16
  from
• 8:17
  house
• 8:17
  to
• 8:17
  apartment
• 8:18
  with
• 8:18
  something.
• 8:18
  And
• 8:19
  everyone
• 8:20
  needs
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  know
• 8:20
  that
• 8:20
  Shannon
• 8:21
  dropped
• 8:21
  everything
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  came
• 8:22
  out
• 8:23
  to
• 8:23
  St.
• 8:23
  Louis
• 8:24
  two
• 8:24
  days
• 8:25
  after
• 8:25
  the
• 8:25
  surgery
• 8:25
  and
• 8:26
  stayed
• 8:26
  for
• 8:26
  two
• 8:26
  full
• 8:26
  weeks,
• 8:27
  took
• 8:27
  care
• 8:27
  of
• 8:28
  pix,
• 8:28
  took
• 8:28
  care
• 8:29
  of
• 8:29
  me
• 8:29
  so
• 8:30
  that
• 8:30
  I
• 8:30
  could
• 8:30
  spend
• 8:30
  my
• 8:30
  days
• 8:31
  at
• 8:31
  the
• 8:32
  hospital.
• 8:33
  And
• 8:33
  he
• 8:33
  took
• 8:33
  care
• 8:33
  of
• 8:33
  her
• 8:34
  apartment.
• 8:34
  You
• 8:34
  remember
• 8:34
  she
• 8:35
  did
• 8:35
  all
• 8:35
  these
• 8:35
  great
• 8:35
  things
• 8:36
  in
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  apartment.
• 8:37
  Oh,
• 8:37
  yeah.
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  switched
• 8:38
  the
• 8:38
  cabinet
• 8:39
  doors
• 8:40
  because
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  cabinet
• 8:41
  doors
• 8:41
  open
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  wrong
• 8:42
  way.
• 8:43
  Right.
• 8:43
  They
• 8:43
  were
• 8:43
  crazy.
• 8:44
  So
• 8:44
  I
• 8:44
  fixed
• 8:45
  that.
• 8:45
  And
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  would
• 8:46
  have
• 8:46
  just
• 8:46
  been
• 8:47
  annoyed
• 8:47
  by
• 8:47
  that.
• 8:47
  I
• 8:48
  wouldn't
• 8:48
  have
• 8:48
  thought
• 8:48
  about
• 8:48
  it.
• 8:49
  Being
• 8:49
  able
• 8:50
  to
• 8:50
  be
• 8:50
  changed.
• 8:50
  And
• 8:50
  not
• 8:51
  only
• 8:51
  did
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  think
• 8:51
  of
• 8:51
  that,
• 8:52
  you
• 8:52
  actually
• 8:52
  did
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  changing.
• 8:53
  It
• 8:53
  was
• 8:53
  amazing.
• 8:55
  So
• 8:56
  now
• 8:57
  we
• 8:57
  just
• 8:57
  celebrated
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  one
• 8:58
  year
• 8:58
  anniversary
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  the
• 8:59
  transplant,
• 9:00
  and
• 9:00
  Barry's
• 9:01
  doing
• 9:01
  great.
• 9:02
  Yay.
• 9:02
  And
• 9:05
  I
• 9:06
  am
• 9:06
  able
• 9:07
  to,
• 9:07
  like,
• 9:07
  add
• 9:08
  this
• 9:08
  back
• 9:08
  in.
• 9:08
  Like,
• 9:08
  life
• 9:09
  is
• 9:09
  a
• 9:09
  lot
• 9:10
  more
• 9:11
  calm.
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  have
• 9:13
  more
• 9:14
  time
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  my
• 9:15
  pursue
• 9:15
  my
• 9:15
  things.
• 9:16
  Yeah.
• 9:17
  So
• 9:17
  my.
• 9:18
  My
• 9:18
  hope
• 9:18
  for
• 9:19
  everybody
• 9:19
  is
• 9:19
  they
• 9:19
  have
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  friend
• 9:20
  like
• 9:20
  Shannon.
• 9:21
  You're
• 9:21
  amazing.
• 9:22
  Thank
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  so
• 9:22
  much.
• 9:23
  I
• 9:23
  really
• 9:23
  don't
• 9:23
  know
• 9:23
  what
• 9:24
  I
• 9:24
  would
• 9:24
  have
• 9:24
  done
• 9:24
  without
• 9:24
  you.
• 9:25
  It
• 9:25
  was
• 9:25
  my
• 9:25
  pleasure.
• 9:26
  And.
• 9:26
  And
• 9:27
  it
• 9:27
  was.
• 9:29
  We
• 9:29
  have
• 9:30
  location
• 9:30
  sharing
• 9:31
  on
• 9:31
  our
• 9:32
  phones.
• 9:32
  And
• 9:33
  so
• 9:33
  usually
• 9:34
  you
• 9:34
  would
• 9:34
  let
• 9:34
  me
• 9:35
  know
• 9:35
  when
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  were
• 9:35
  heading
• 9:36
  home,
• 9:36
  but
• 9:37
  when
• 9:37
  I
• 9:37
  would
• 9:37
  sort
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  keep
• 9:38
  an
• 9:38
  eye
• 9:38
  on
• 9:38
  things
• 9:38
  and
• 9:39
  when
• 9:39
  you're
• 9:39
  heading
• 9:39
  home,
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  would,
• 9:41
  you
• 9:41
  know,
• 9:42
  make
• 9:42
  sure
• 9:42
  that
• 9:42
  we
• 9:42
  had
• 9:43
  some
• 9:43
  dinner
• 9:43
  and
• 9:44
  a
• 9:44
  glass
• 9:44
  of
• 9:44
  wine.
• 9:46
  It
• 9:46
  was
• 9:46
  amazing.
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  would
• 9:47
  walk
• 9:47
  into
• 9:48
  the
• 9:49
  apartment,
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  there
• 9:49
  would
• 9:49
  be
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  smell
• 9:50
  of
• 9:51
  food
• 9:51
  and
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  glass
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  wine
• 9:52
  just
• 9:52
  been
• 9:53
  poured,
• 9:54
  which.
• 9:54
  And
• 9:54
  I
• 9:55
  think
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  told
• 9:55
  you
• 9:55
  one
• 9:56
  day
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  felt
• 9:56
  like
• 9:56
  a
• 9:57
  1950s.
• 9:59
  Husband.
• 10:01
  And
• 10:02
  I
• 10:02
  really
• 10:02
  liked
• 10:02
  it.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:05
  you're
• 10:05
  like,
• 10:05
  everyone
• 10:06
  needs
• 10:06
  a
• 10:06
  wife.
• 10:07
  Yeah.
• 10:07
  All
• 10:07
  those
• 10:08
  Hudsons
• 10:08
  back
• 10:08
  then
• 10:09
  had
• 10:09
  it.
• 10:09
  Had.
• 10:09
  Had
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  going
• 10:10
  on,
• 10:10
  that's
• 10:10
  for
• 10:11
  sure.
• 10:12
  Yeah.
• 10:12
  So,
• 10:13
  yeah,
• 10:13
  it's
• 10:13
  been
• 10:13
  a
• 10:13
  tumultuous
• 10:14
  couple
• 10:14
  of
• 10:14
  years
• 10:15
  for
• 10:15
  me,
• 10:16
  but
• 10:16
  very
• 10:17
  all,
• 10:17
  you
• 10:17
  know,
• 10:18
  excellent
• 10:18
  outcomes.
• 10:19
  I
• 10:19
  love
• 10:19
  living
• 10:20
  in
• 10:20
  an
• 10:20
  apartment.
• 10:22
  I
• 10:22
  love
• 10:22
  having
• 10:22
  a
• 10:22
  healthy
• 10:23
  husband.
• 10:24
  Yeah,
• 10:24
  I
• 10:25
  know.
• 10:25
  Two
• 10:25
  very,
• 10:25
  very
• 10:26
  good
• 10:26
  things.
• 10:27
  It's
• 10:27
  all
• 10:27
  good.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:28
  it's.
• 10:29
  I
• 10:29
  have
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  say,
• 10:29
  it's
• 10:29
  an
• 10:30
  amazing
• 10:30
  apartment.
• 10:31
  Yeah.
• 10:32
  It's
• 10:32
  pretty
• 10:32
  good.
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  want
• 10:32
  you
• 10:33
  to
• 10:33
  come
• 10:33
  see
• 10:33
  it
• 10:33
  when
• 10:34
  it's
• 10:34
  not
• 10:34
  in
• 10:35
  complete
• 10:35
  disarray.
• 10:36
  Like,
• 10:36
  when
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  were
• 10:36
  here.
• 10:37
  Yeah.
• 10:37
  When
• 10:38
  you,
• 10:39
  like,
• 10:39
  had
• 10:40
  moved
• 10:41
  in
• 10:41
  and
• 10:41
  then
• 10:43
  spent
• 10:44
  weeks
• 10:44
  at
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  hospital,
• 10:45
  so
• 10:46
  never
• 10:46
  got
• 10:46
  to,
• 10:46
  like,
• 10:47
  fully
• 10:47
  unpack
• 10:48
  until.
• 10:48
  Right.
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  mean,
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  did
• 10:49
  have
• 10:50
  professional
• 10:51
  organizers
• 10:51
  helping
• 10:51
  me,
• 10:52
  of
• 10:52
  course.
• 10:52
  Right.
• 10:53
  So
• 10:53
  we
• 10:53
  got.
• 10:53
  We
• 10:53
  made
• 10:53
  a
• 10:54
  lot
• 10:54
  of
• 10:54
  progress.
• 10:55
  It
• 10:55
  would
• 10:55
  still
• 10:55
  be.
• 10:56
  If
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  didn't.
• 10:56
  It
• 10:56
  was
• 10:56
  huge.
• 10:57
  Still
• 10:57
  have
• 10:57
  boxes.
• 11:00
  Yeah.
• 11:00
  But
• 11:00
  it
• 11:00
  was
• 11:01
  in.
• 11:01
  Definitely
• 11:01
  in
• 11:01
  disarray.
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  don't
• 11:02
  think
• 11:02
  I
• 11:03
  was
• 11:03
  using
• 11:03
  my
• 11:03
  office,
• 11:04
  was
• 11:04
  I?
• 11:04
  Or
• 11:05
  maybe
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  was.
• 11:05
  When
• 11:06
  you
• 11:06
  were
• 11:06
  here,
• 11:08
  you
• 11:08
  had
• 11:08
  your
• 11:08
  office
• 11:10
  sort
• 11:10
  of
• 11:10
  set
• 11:10
  up,
• 11:11
  but,
• 11:12
  I
• 11:13
  mean,
• 11:13
  you
• 11:13
  didn't
• 11:13
  have
• 11:13
  time,
• 11:15
  like.
• 11:15
  Well,
• 11:15
  yeah,
• 11:15
  that's
• 11:15
  true.
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  couldn't
• 11:16
  use
• 11:16
  my
• 11:16
  office.
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  had
• 11:16
  no
• 11:17
  time
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  be
• 11:17
  in
• 11:17
  it.
• 11:17
  Right.
• 11:18
  But
• 11:18
  it
• 11:18
  was
• 11:18
  sort
• 11:19
  of
• 11:19
  set
• 11:19
  up.
• 11:19
  Yeah.
• 11:20
  Yeah,
• 11:20
  yeah.
• 11:21
  Anyway,
• 11:21
  so
• 11:23
  then
• 11:23
  when
• 11:23
  things
• 11:23
  sort
• 11:24
  of
• 11:24
  started
• 11:24
  to
• 11:24
  ease
• 11:24
  up
• 11:25
  and
• 11:27
  we
• 11:29
  were
• 11:29
  both
• 11:29
  feeling
• 11:30
  good
• 11:31
  about
• 11:31
  it,
• 11:32
  we
• 11:32
  realized
• 11:33
  we
• 11:34
  could
• 11:34
  just
• 11:35
  pick
• 11:36
  up
• 11:36
  where
• 11:36
  we
• 11:36
  were
• 11:36
  with
• 11:37
  getting
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  good
• 11:38
  enough.
• 11:38
  Right.
• 11:39
  And
• 11:39
  do
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  little
• 11:39
  bit
• 11:40
  of
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  refresh
• 11:40
  and
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  2.0
• 11:41
  version.
• 11:42
  Exactly.
• 11:43
  So
• 11:43
  we
• 11:43
  didn't
• 11:43
  get.
• 11:44
  I
• 11:44
  mean,
• 11:44
  we
• 11:44
  got
• 11:44
  to
• 11:45
  talk
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  each
• 11:45
  other
• 11:46
  once
• 11:46
  a
• 11:47
  week
• 11:47
  when
• 11:47
  we
• 11:47
  were
• 11:47
  podcasting.
• 11:48
  I
• 11:48
  know.
• 11:48
  Even
• 11:49
  though
• 11:49
  we
• 11:50
  seen
• 11:50
  each
• 11:50
  other,
• 11:50
  we
• 11:50
  still
• 11:51
  see
• 11:51
  each
• 11:51
  other
• 11:51
  once
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  year,
• 11:52
  I
• 11:52
  think.
• 11:52
  There
• 11:52
  hasn't
• 11:53
  been.
• 11:53
  We've
• 11:53
  never
• 11:54
  seen
• 11:54
  each
• 11:54
  other.
• 11:54
  Yeah.
• 11:56
  The
• 11:56
  idea.
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  really,
• 11:57
  really
• 11:58
  missed
• 11:58
  talking
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  you.
• 11:59
  Yeah.
• 12:00
  And
• 12:00
  I
• 12:00
  hate
• 12:00
  talking
• 12:00
  on
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  phone,
• 12:01
  as
• 12:02
  you
• 12:02
  may
• 12:02
  know.
• 12:03
  So
• 12:03
  it's
• 12:04
  not
• 12:04
  like
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  was
• 12:04
  gonna
• 12:04
  pick
• 12:05
  up
• 12:05
  the
• 12:05
  phone
• 12:05
  and
• 12:05
  call
• 12:05
  you.
• 12:07
  And
• 12:07
  we
• 12:07
  would
• 12:07
  zoom
• 12:08
  occasionally,
• 12:08
  but
• 12:08
  this
• 12:09
  is.
• 12:09
  This
• 12:09
  is
• 12:10
  like
• 12:10
  mandatory
• 12:11
  talks.
• 12:12
  Right,
• 12:13
  right.
• 12:14
  And,
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  know,
• 12:14
  we're.
• 12:15
  We're
• 12:15
  happy
• 12:16
  to
• 12:16
  have
• 12:16
  people
• 12:17
  who
• 12:17
  want
• 12:17
  to
• 12:18
  hang
• 12:18
  out
• 12:18
  with
• 12:18
  us
• 12:19
  and
• 12:20
  listen
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  us
• 12:20
  chat.
• 12:22
  I
• 12:22
  know,
• 12:22
  it's
• 12:23
  amazing
• 12:24
  there
• 12:25
  are
• 12:25
  such
• 12:25
  people,
• 12:26
  but
• 12:26
  we've
• 12:26
  had
• 12:26
  such
• 12:26
  nice
• 12:27
  feedback
• 12:28
  from
• 12:28
  folks
• 12:28
  when
• 12:28
  we
• 12:28
  met,
• 12:29
  announced
• 12:29
  that
• 12:29
  we
• 12:29
  were
• 12:29
  coming
• 12:30
  back.
• 12:30
  I
• 12:31
  know.
• 12:31
  It
• 12:31
  was
• 12:31
  so
• 12:32
  heartwarming
• 12:33
  to
• 12:34
  see
• 12:35
  all
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  comments
• 12:36
  from
• 12:36
  people
• 12:36
  who
• 12:36
  are
• 12:37
  so
• 12:37
  excited
• 12:37
  and
• 12:38
  saying
• 12:38
  that
• 12:38
  they
• 12:38
  missed
• 12:39
  us
• 12:39
  and
• 12:39
  how
• 12:39
  much
• 12:40
  they
• 12:40
  enjoyed
• 12:40
  it
• 12:41
  and
• 12:42
  stuff.
• 12:42
  So
• 12:44
  that's
• 12:44
  all.
• 12:44
  That's
• 12:44
  great.
• 12:45
  So
• 12:46
  we're
• 12:46
  looking
• 12:47
  forward
• 12:47
  to
• 12:49
  spending
• 12:49
  time
• 12:50
  with
• 12:51
  each
• 12:51
  other
• 12:51
  and
• 12:52
  our
• 12:52
  listeners
• 12:53
  every
• 12:54
  week.
• 12:55
  Yeah.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:55
  we'll
• 12:56
  still
• 12:56
  keep
• 12:57
  talking
• 12:57
  about
• 12:58
  basically
• 12:59
  whatever
• 12:59
  we
• 12:59
  want
• 12:59
  to
• 13:00
  talk
• 13:00
  about,
• 13:00
  which
• 13:00
  is
• 13:00
  what
• 13:00
  we
• 13:01
  did
• 13:01
  before
• 13:03
  through
• 13:03
  the
• 13:03
  lens
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  perfectionism.
• 13:05
  Right.
• 13:05
  That's
• 13:06
  sort
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  what
• 13:06
  we're
• 13:07
  doing.
• 13:07
  Because
• 13:07
  perfectionism
• 13:08
  really
• 13:09
  is
• 13:09
  everywhere.
• 13:10
  Everything
• 13:10
  has
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  perfect.
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  mean.
• 13:12
  Oh,
• 13:12
  and
• 13:13
  like,
• 13:14
  before
• 13:15
  we
• 13:15
  started
• 13:15
  recording
• 13:16
  this
• 13:16
  episode,
• 13:17
  when
• 13:18
  we
• 13:18
  were
• 13:19
  trying
• 13:19
  to
• 13:20
  figure
• 13:20
  out
• 13:21
  our
• 13:21
  sound
• 13:22
  and
• 13:22
  we're
• 13:23
  trying
• 13:23
  to
• 13:23
  get
• 13:23
  all
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  settings
• 13:24
  just
• 13:24
  right,
• 13:25
  and
• 13:26
  we
• 13:26
  spent
• 13:26
  a
• 13:27
  fair
• 13:27
  amount
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  time
• 13:28
  doing
• 13:28
  that
• 13:29
  and
• 13:30
  then
• 13:30
  realized,
• 13:31
  this
• 13:32
  is
• 13:32
  good
• 13:32
  enough
• 13:33
  and
• 13:34
  we
• 13:34
  can
• 13:34
  move
• 13:35
  forward
• 13:36
  and.
• 13:37
  Yeah,
• 13:38
  Yeah.
• 13:38
  I
• 13:38
  think
• 13:38
  we
• 13:38
  spent
• 13:39
  more
• 13:39
  time
• 13:39
  than
• 13:39
  we
• 13:39
  needed
• 13:39
  to
• 13:40
  trying
• 13:40
  to
• 13:41
  without
• 13:41
  any
• 13:43
  results.
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  know.
• 13:45
  So
• 13:46
  hopefully
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  sound
• 13:47
  quality
• 13:47
  that
• 13:48
  y'
• 13:48
  all
• 13:48
  are
• 13:48
  listening
• 13:49
  to
• 13:49
  is
• 13:50
  better
• 13:50
  than
• 13:51
  good
• 13:51
  enough,
• 13:51
  but
• 13:52
  at
• 13:52
  least
• 13:52
  good
• 13:53
  enough,
• 13:54
  right?
• 13:55
  Yep.
• 13:55
  And
• 13:55
  there
• 13:55
  won't
• 13:56
  be
• 13:56
  any
• 13:56
  lawnmowers.
• 13:57
  You
• 13:57
  won't
• 13:57
  be
• 13:57
  able
• 13:57
  to
• 13:57
  hear
• 13:57
  any
• 13:58
  lawnmowers
• 13:58
  on
• 13:58
  my
• 13:59
  end
• 14:01
  because
• 14:01
  I
• 14:01
  live
• 14:01
  on
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  35th
• 14:02
  floor
• 14:02
  now.
• 14:03
  So.
• 14:03
  That
• 14:04
  was
• 14:05
  that
• 14:05
  lawnmower
• 14:06
  episode
• 14:06
  from
• 14:07
  early
• 14:07
  on
• 14:07
  in
• 14:07
  the.
• 14:08
  I
• 14:08
  think
• 14:08
  that
• 14:09
  was,
• 14:09
  like,
• 14:09
  episode
• 14:10
  two.
• 14:10
  Or
• 14:11
  three
• 14:11
  or
• 14:11
  something
• 14:13
  right
• 14:13
  outside
• 14:14
  my
• 14:14
  window.
• 14:16
  We
• 14:17
  just
• 14:17
  kept
• 14:17
  going,
• 14:18
  like,
• 14:18
  whatever.
• 14:19
  It
• 14:19
  just
• 14:19
  is
• 14:19
  what
• 14:19
  it
• 14:20
  is.
• 14:20
  We
• 14:20
  can't
• 14:20
  do
• 14:20
  anything
• 14:21
  about
• 14:21
  it.
• 14:21
  That's
• 14:22
  right.
• 14:22
  And
• 14:22
  then
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  told
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  lawn
• 14:23
  guy
• 14:24
  not
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  come
• 14:25
  when
• 14:25
  we.
• 14:25
  You
• 14:26
  know,
• 14:26
  that
• 14:27
  time
• 14:27
  that
• 14:27
  we
• 14:27
  were.
• 14:27
  At
• 14:27
  the
• 14:28
  time
• 14:28
  we
• 14:28
  recorded.
• 14:28
  Yeah.
• 14:29
  But
• 14:29
  now
• 14:29
  there's.
• 14:30
  Where
• 14:30
  I
• 14:30
  live
• 14:30
  now
• 14:30
  there's
• 14:31
  no
• 14:31
  noise
• 14:31
  unless
• 14:32
  Barry
• 14:32
  starts
• 14:33
  making
• 14:33
  noise.
• 14:34
  Yeah.
• 14:34
  Well,
• 14:35
  you
• 14:35
  can
• 14:35
  just
• 14:35
  tell
• 14:36
  him
• 14:36
  to.
• 14:37
  Right.
• 14:37
  I
• 14:38
  mean,
• 14:38
  he
• 14:39
  can
• 14:39
  control
• 14:40
  his.
• 14:41
  Yeah.
• 14:41
  His
• 14:42
  output.
• 14:42
  That's
• 14:43
  right.
• 14:43
  That's
• 14:43
  right.
• 14:44
  Yeah.
• 14:45
  Yeah.
• 14:46
  Well.
• 14:46
  And.
• 14:47
  And,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  know,
• 14:47
  it
• 14:47
  was
• 14:48
  sort
• 14:48
  of
• 14:48
  interesting
• 14:48
  getting
• 14:49
  restarted
• 14:50
  with
• 14:50
  the
• 14:51
  podcast,
• 14:51
  because
• 14:53
  part
• 14:53
  of
• 14:54
  the
• 14:54
  reason
• 14:56
  it
• 14:56
  was
• 14:56
  not
• 14:57
  fun
• 14:57
  anymore
• 14:57
  when
• 14:58
  we
• 14:58
  were
• 14:58
  doing
• 14:58
  it
• 14:58
  before
• 14:59
  was
• 14:59
  that
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  platform
• 15:01
  we
• 15:01
  were
• 15:01
  using
• 15:02
  was
• 15:03
  pretty
• 15:03
  tedious.
• 15:05
  It
• 15:05
  was
• 15:06
  a.
• 15:07
  Somehow
• 15:08
  it
• 15:09
  was
• 15:09
  both
• 15:09
  simple
• 15:11
  and
• 15:12
  tedious
• 15:12
  and
• 15:13
  annoying.
• 15:14
  Right.
• 15:15
  It
• 15:15
  was,
• 15:15
  like,
• 15:16
  so
• 15:16
  devoid
• 15:17
  of
• 15:17
  features,
• 15:18
  making
• 15:19
  it
• 15:19
  simple.
• 15:21
  It
• 15:22
  was
• 15:22
  really
• 15:22
  annoying
• 15:23
  to
• 15:23
  use.
• 15:24
  Yeah.
• 15:24
  And
• 15:24
  then.
• 15:24
  But,
• 15:24
  you
• 15:25
  know,
• 15:25
  it's
• 15:25
  like,
• 15:26
  we
• 15:26
  didn't
• 15:26
  have.
• 15:26
  Have
• 15:26
  it
• 15:27
  in
• 15:27
  us
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  sort
• 15:27
  of
• 15:28
  try
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  research
• 15:29
  new
• 15:29
  stuff
• 15:29
  and
• 15:31
  make
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  switch.
• 15:32
  And
• 15:33
  now,
• 15:34
  I
• 15:34
  mean,
• 15:34
  it's
• 15:34
  what,
• 15:35
  eight
• 15:35
  years?
• 15:36
  No,
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  can't
• 15:37
  do
• 15:37
  math.
• 15:38
  Seven
• 15:38
  years.
• 15:38
  Since
• 15:39
  we
• 15:39
  started
• 15:39
  the
• 15:40
  podcast
• 15:41
  originally,
• 15:41
  all
• 15:41
  the
• 15:42
  options
• 15:42
  are
• 15:42
  different.
• 15:43
  Yeah,
• 15:43
  they're
• 15:44
  all
• 15:44
  completely
• 15:44
  different.
• 15:45
  So
• 15:45
  we're
• 15:45
  using.
• 15:46
  So
• 15:46
  we
• 15:46
  had
• 15:46
  to,
• 15:47
  you
• 15:47
  know,
• 15:48
  sort
• 15:48
  of
• 15:49
  figure
• 15:50
  out
• 15:51
  where
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  go
• 15:52
  from
• 15:52
  here
• 15:53
  and
• 15:55
  really
• 15:55
  remind
• 15:56
  ourselves
• 15:56
  to
• 15:57
  let
• 15:57
  it
• 15:57
  be
• 15:57
  easy.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  have
• 15:59
  to
• 16:00
  say
• 16:01
  this
• 16:01
  is
• 16:01
  probably
• 16:02
  going
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  be
• 16:02
  controversial
• 16:03
  with
• 16:04
  some
• 16:04
  people
• 16:04
  in
• 16:05
  our
• 16:05
  audience,
• 16:06
  but
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  have
• 16:08
  loved
• 16:08
  the
• 16:09
  fact
• 16:09
  that
• 16:09
  we
• 16:09
  have
• 16:10
  AI
• 16:10
  to
• 16:10
  help
• 16:11
  us
• 16:11
  now.
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  know,
• 16:13
  I
• 16:14
  too,
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  agree
• 16:14
  with
• 16:15
  you.
• 16:15
  And
• 16:16
  I
• 16:17
  have
• 16:17
  been
• 16:17
  very
• 16:18
  hesitant
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  use
• 16:20
  AI
• 16:20
  prior
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  just
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  couple
• 16:22
  months
• 16:22
  ago.
• 16:23
  And
• 16:23
  it's
• 16:24
  definitely
• 16:24
  helped.
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  mean,
• 16:25
  there's.
• 16:26
  Because
• 16:26
  there's.
• 16:26
  We
• 16:27
  don't.
• 16:27
  Excuse
• 16:28
  me,
• 16:28
  we
• 16:28
  didn't
• 16:28
  know
• 16:28
  what
• 16:28
  we
• 16:28
  didn't
• 16:29
  know.
• 16:29
  Right.
• 16:30
  And
• 16:30
  AI
• 16:31
  helps
• 16:32
  us
• 16:32
  helped
• 16:32
  real
• 16:33
  fast
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  narrow
• 16:34
  down
• 16:35
  some
• 16:36
  options
• 16:36
  for
• 16:36
  us
• 16:37
  so
• 16:37
  that
• 16:37
  we
• 16:37
  could
• 16:37
  research
• 16:38
  easily,
• 16:39
  more
• 16:39
  easily
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  stuff
• 16:40
  that
• 16:40
  we
• 16:40
  might
• 16:40
  want
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  use.
• 16:41
  Right.
• 16:41
  Because.
• 16:42
  Yeah,
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  mean,
• 16:43
  right.
• 16:44
  You
• 16:44
  think
• 16:44
  about
• 16:45
  starting
• 16:45
  a
• 16:46
  podcast
• 16:46
  and
• 16:47
  there
• 16:47
  are
• 16:47
  so
• 16:47
  many
• 16:48
  options
• 16:48
  available
• 16:48
  to
• 16:49
  you.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  had
• 16:49
  no
• 16:50
  idea
• 16:50
  even
• 16:51
  where
• 16:51
  to
• 16:51
  begin.
• 16:53
  So
• 16:53
  I
• 16:53
  asked
• 16:53
  my
• 16:53
  new
• 16:54
  friend
• 16:54
  ChatGPT
• 16:56
  and
• 16:57
  got
• 16:57
  some
• 16:58
  really
• 16:58
  good
• 16:58
  information
• 16:59
  that
• 16:59
  helped
• 17:00
  us
• 17:01
  move
• 17:01
  forward
• 17:03
  in
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  relatively
• 17:04
  simple
• 17:04
  way.
• 17:05
  Didn't
• 17:05
  you
• 17:06
  find
• 17:06
  a
• 17:06
  podcast
• 17:07
  specific
• 17:07
  AI
• 17:08
  bot?
• 17:09
  Yeah,
• 17:09
  there's
• 17:10
  a.
• 17:10
  On
• 17:11
  ChatGPT,
• 17:11
  they
• 17:12
  have
• 17:12
  different
• 17:13
  GPTs.
• 17:16
  And
• 17:16
  I
• 17:16
  found
• 17:16
  one
• 17:17
  that
• 17:17
  was
• 17:17
  podcast
• 17:18
  specific.
• 17:19
  I
• 17:19
  believe
• 17:19
  it
• 17:19
  is
• 17:20
  called
• 17:20
  Podcast
• 17:20
  Pilot.
• 17:22
  And
• 17:24
  so
• 17:24
  it's
• 17:25
  trained
• 17:26
  with
• 17:27
  all
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  latest
• 17:28
  information
• 17:28
  for
• 17:29
  podcasting
• 17:30
  and
• 17:31
  such.
• 17:31
  And
• 17:32
  so
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  used
• 17:33
  that
• 17:33
  and
• 17:33
  it
• 17:33
  was
• 17:34
  really,
• 17:35
  really
• 17:35
  helpful
• 17:36
  in
• 17:36
  getting
• 17:36
  started.
• 17:38
  Yeah,
• 17:38
  yeah,
• 17:39
  it
• 17:39
  was
• 17:39
  amazing.
• 17:41
  Yeah.
• 17:41
  And
• 17:41
  then
• 17:42
  different
• 17:43
  AI
• 17:44
  tools
• 17:44
  have
• 17:45
  helped
• 17:45
  us
• 17:46
  figure
• 17:46
  out
• 17:46
  the
• 17:48
  setup
• 17:48
  and
• 17:49
  the
• 17:49
  social
• 17:49
  media
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
  just
• 17:51
  how
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  go
• 17:51
  about
• 17:54
  relaunching.
• 17:55
  Right,
• 17:56
  right.
• 17:57
  And.
• 17:57
  And
• 17:57
  in
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  way
• 17:58
  that
• 17:59
  feels
• 18:01
  doable,
• 18:02
  sustainable,
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  will
• 18:05
  say
• 18:05
  the,
• 18:06
  the
• 18:07
  one
• 18:07
  drawback
• 18:08
  is
• 18:10
  being
• 18:10
  older,
• 18:11
  my
• 18:11
  memory
• 18:12
  is
• 18:12
  worse.
• 18:13
  It
• 18:13
  feels
• 18:14
  harder
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  learn
• 18:14
  new
• 18:15
  things
• 18:16
  and
• 18:17
  it
• 18:17
  feels
• 18:17
  like
• 18:17
  this,
• 18:18
  this
• 18:19
  learning
• 18:19
  curve
• 18:19
  is
• 18:19
  going
• 18:20
  to
• 18:20
  take
• 18:20
  a
• 18:20
  little
• 18:20
  bit
• 18:20
  longer.
• 18:21
  So
• 18:21
  I'm
• 18:21
  being
• 18:22
  much
• 18:22
  more
• 18:22
  diligent
• 18:23
  about
• 18:25
  creating
• 18:26
  notes
• 18:27
  to,
• 18:28
  you
• 18:29
  know,
• 18:29
  take
• 18:29
  us
• 18:29
  step
• 18:30
  by
• 18:30
  step
• 18:30
  through
• 18:30
  the
• 18:31
  process.
• 18:35
  And
• 18:36
  that
• 18:37
  often
• 18:37
  feels
• 18:38
  like
• 18:38
  an
• 18:39
  extra
• 18:39
  step
• 18:39
  that
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  shouldn't
• 18:40
  have
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  do,
• 18:42
  but
• 18:43
  it's
• 18:44
  so
• 18:44
  helpful.
• 18:47
  Yeah.
• 18:47
  My
• 18:47
  memory
• 18:48
  is
• 18:48
  no
• 18:48
  better
• 18:49
  than
• 18:49
  yours.
• 18:49
  Probably
• 18:50
  worse.
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  am
• 18:50
  five
• 18:50
  years
• 18:51
  older
• 18:51
  than
• 18:51
  you
• 18:52
  and
• 18:52
  I
• 18:53
  so
• 18:53
  appreciate
• 18:54
  that
• 18:54
  you're
• 18:54
  writing
• 18:54
  everything
• 18:54
  down.
• 18:55
  And
• 18:55
  the
• 18:55
  other
• 18:55
  benefit
• 18:56
  to
• 18:56
  that
• 18:56
  is,
• 18:57
  you
• 18:57
  know,
• 18:57
  when,
• 18:58
  if
• 18:59
  you
• 18:59
  have
• 18:59
  to,
• 19:00
  I
• 19:00
  mean,
• 19:00
  we
• 19:00
  haven't
• 19:01
  even
• 19:01
  figured
• 19:01
  out
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  division
• 19:02
  of
• 19:02
  labor.
• 19:02
  Yet
• 19:02
  with
• 19:03
  our
• 19:03
  tasks
• 19:04
  at
• 19:04
  the
• 19:04
  podcast.
• 19:05
  But
• 19:05
  we
• 19:05
  can.
• 19:06
  We
• 19:06
  should
• 19:06
  be
• 19:06
  able
• 19:06
  to
• 19:06
  step
• 19:06
  in
• 19:06
  for
• 19:07
  each
• 19:07
  other
• 19:08
  if
• 19:08
  you
• 19:08
  need
• 19:08
  to,
• 19:09
  because
• 19:10
  everything
• 19:10
  is
• 19:11
  written
• 19:11
  down
• 19:11
  or
• 19:11
  will
• 19:11
  be
• 19:12
  written
• 19:12
  down.
• 19:12
  Right.
• 19:12
  So
• 19:13
  that's.
• 19:13
  Which
• 19:13
  is.
• 19:14
  Yeah.
• 19:14
  Which
• 19:14
  is
• 19:14
  very
• 19:15
  different
• 19:15
  than
• 19:16
  last
• 19:16
  time,
• 19:16
  because
• 19:17
  if
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  ever
• 19:17
  had
• 19:18
  to
• 19:18
  do
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  part
• 19:20
  that
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  were
• 19:20
  responsible
• 19:21
  for,
• 19:21
  I
• 19:22
  had
• 19:22
  no
• 19:22
  idea.
• 19:22
  I
• 19:23
  mean,
• 19:23
  you
• 19:23
  had
• 19:23
  noticed.
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  probably
• 19:25
  could
• 19:25
  have
• 19:25
  figured
• 19:25
  it
• 19:26
  out.
• 19:26
  But
• 19:27
  it.
• 19:28
  It.
• 19:29
  I
• 19:29
  had
• 19:29
  no
• 19:30
  idea
• 19:31
  what
• 19:31
  you
• 19:31
  did,
• 19:32
  and
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  was
• 19:32
  so
• 19:32
  happy
• 19:33
  that
• 19:33
  you
• 19:33
  did
• 19:33
  that
• 19:34
  part.
• 19:36
  That's
• 19:36
  exactly
• 19:36
  how
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  felt
• 19:37
  about
• 19:37
  what
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  did.
• 19:38
  But
• 19:38
  it
• 19:38
  really
• 19:38
  would
• 19:39
  be
• 19:39
  better
• 19:39
  if
• 19:39
  we
• 19:39
  could
• 19:39
  each
• 19:40
  do
• 19:40
  it
• 19:40
  in
• 19:40
  case.
• 19:40
  In
• 19:41
  a
• 19:41
  pinch,
• 19:41
  because
• 19:41
  things
• 19:42
  happen
• 19:43
  exactly.
• 19:44
  As
• 19:44
  we
• 19:44
  have
• 19:44
  found
• 19:45
  out.
• 19:47
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  So.
• 19:49
  And
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  other
• 19:50
  thing
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  think
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  we've
• 19:51
  really
• 19:51
  done
• 19:52
  is,
• 19:53
  you
• 19:54
  know,
• 19:54
  we've.
• 19:54
  We've
• 19:55
  done
• 19:55
  some
• 19:55
  planning
• 19:56
  ahead,
• 19:56
  but
• 19:56
  we're
• 19:57
  really
• 19:57
  sort
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  taking
• 19:57
  it
• 19:58
  one
• 19:58
  step
• 19:59
  at
• 19:59
  a
• 19:59
  time.
• 19:59
  We're
• 20:00
  not,
• 20:01
  you
• 20:01
  know,
• 20:01
  trying
• 20:01
  to
• 20:02
  figure
• 20:02
  out
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  greater
• 20:04
  purpose
• 20:04
  of
• 20:04
  the
• 20:05
  podcast
• 20:06
  in
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  future.
• 20:07
  You
• 20:07
  know,
• 20:08
  we
• 20:08
  don't
• 20:08
  have
• 20:08
  some
• 20:08
  big
• 20:09
  goal
• 20:09
  we're
• 20:09
  aiming
• 20:09
  for.
• 20:09
  We
• 20:10
  just
• 20:10
  want
• 20:10
  to
• 20:10
  do
• 20:10
  this
• 20:11
  under
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  same.
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  don't
• 20:15
  know,
• 20:15
  what
• 20:15
  would
• 20:15
  you
• 20:16
  call
• 20:16
  it?
• 20:16
  The
• 20:16
  same
• 20:17
  rule
• 20:18
  as
• 20:18
  we
• 20:18
  had
• 20:19
  before?
• 20:20
  Understanding.
• 20:21
  No,
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  we'll
• 20:23
  do.
• 20:23
  Oh,
• 20:23
  yeah.
• 20:24
  The
• 20:24
  same
• 20:24
  understanding
• 20:25
  that
• 20:25
  we.
• 20:26
  Yeah,
• 20:26
  right.
• 20:27
  That
• 20:28
  we'll
• 20:28
  continue
• 20:29
  to
• 20:29
  do
• 20:29
  it
• 20:30
  as
• 20:30
  long
• 20:30
  as
• 20:30
  it's
• 20:30
  fun.
• 20:31
  And
• 20:32
  when
• 20:32
  it's
• 20:32
  not
• 20:32
  fun
• 20:33
  any
• 20:34
  longer,
• 20:34
  then
• 20:36
  it's
• 20:36
  time
• 20:37
  to
• 20:37
  wrap
• 20:37
  it
• 20:37
  up
• 20:38
  or
• 20:38
  figure
• 20:38
  out
• 20:39
  how
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  make
• 20:39
  it
• 20:39
  fun
• 20:39
  again.
• 20:41
  Well,
• 20:41
  yeah,
• 20:41
  that's
• 20:42
  a
• 20:42
  good
• 20:42
  point.
• 20:43
  Right.
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  feel
• 20:45
  like
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  hiatus
• 20:47
  will
• 20:48
  help
• 20:48
  us
• 20:49
  make
• 20:49
  it
• 20:49
  fun.
• 20:49
  The
• 20:50
  new
• 20:50
  technology
• 20:50
  will
• 20:51
  help
• 20:51
  us
• 20:51
  make
• 20:51
  it
• 20:51
  less
• 20:51
  tedious.
• 20:53
  Right.
• 20:53
  And
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  think
• 20:56
  it's
• 20:56
  going
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  be
• 20:56
  great.
• 20:57
  But,
• 20:57
  yeah,
• 20:57
  we
• 20:57
  can
• 20:57
  always
• 20:57
  step
• 20:58
  away.
• 20:58
  There's.
• 20:58
  There's
• 20:58
  such
• 20:59
  freedom
• 20:59
  in
• 20:59
  that.
• 20:59
  Right.
• 20:59
  It's
• 21:00
  not
• 21:00
  like
• 21:00
  it's
• 21:00
  a
• 21:00
  job.
• 21:00
  Yeah,
• 21:01
  right,
• 21:02
  exactly.
• 21:03
  We
• 21:03
  are
• 21:03
  doing
• 21:03
  this
• 21:04
  for
• 21:04
  fun,
• 21:04
  and
• 21:04
  we're
• 21:05
  doing
• 21:05
  it
• 21:06
  to.
• 21:08
  I
• 21:08
  mean,
• 21:08
  basically,
• 21:09
  we're
• 21:09
  doing
• 21:09
  it
• 21:10
  so
• 21:10
  that
• 21:10
  we
• 21:11
  have
• 21:11
  a
• 21:11
  date
• 21:11
  every
• 21:12
  week
• 21:12
  to
• 21:12
  chat.
• 21:15
  Might
• 21:15
  be
• 21:16
  considered
• 21:16
  a
• 21:16
  little
• 21:16
  extreme.
• 21:18
  There
• 21:19
  may
• 21:19
  be
• 21:19
  other
• 21:19
  ways
• 21:19
  to
• 21:20
  have
• 21:20
  a
• 21:20
  date
• 21:21
  every
• 21:21
  week,
• 21:21
  but.
• 21:22
  No,
• 21:22
  it
• 21:22
  was
• 21:22
  so
• 21:23
  great
• 21:24
  before,
• 21:24
  and
• 21:24
  I'm
• 21:25
  sure
• 21:25
  it
• 21:25
  will
• 21:25
  be
• 21:25
  again.
• 21:26
  And
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  missed
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  interaction
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  we
• 21:28
  had
• 21:28
  with
• 21:29
  listeners.
• 21:31
  Hopefully
• 21:32
  we'll
• 21:32
  have
• 21:32
  that
• 21:32
  again.
• 21:34
  I
• 21:34
  know.
• 21:35
  Yeah,
• 21:35
  I
• 21:36
  think
• 21:36
  that'll
• 21:36
  be
• 21:36
  really
• 21:36
  fun.
• 21:37
  And
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  other
• 21:38
  thing
• 21:38
  that
• 21:39
  we've
• 21:39
  done
• 21:40
  is
• 21:42
  we've
• 21:43
  really
• 21:43
  given
• 21:43
  ourselves
• 21:44
  permission
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  not
• 21:45
  have
• 21:46
  to
• 21:46
  figure
• 21:46
  it
• 21:46
  all
• 21:47
  out
• 21:47
  now.
• 21:47
  I
• 21:48
  mean,
• 21:48
  certainly
• 21:49
  there
• 21:49
  are
• 21:49
  things
• 21:49
  that
• 21:49
  we
• 21:49
  have
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  do.
• 21:50
  We
• 21:50
  have
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  know
• 21:50
  how
• 21:51
  we're
• 21:51
  going
• 21:51
  to
• 21:52
  record,
• 21:52
  edit
• 21:53
  where
• 21:53
  it's
• 21:53
  going
• 21:53
  to
• 21:53
  be
• 21:54
  hosted,
• 21:54
  all
• 21:54
  of
• 21:54
  those
• 21:55
  things.
• 21:56
  But
• 21:57
  we
• 21:57
  can
• 21:57
  always
• 21:57
  change
• 21:58
  our
• 21:58
  mind.
• 21:58
  We
• 21:58
  can
• 21:58
  do
• 21:59
  it
• 21:59
  differently.
• 22:00
  We
• 22:01
  can,
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  know,
• 22:02
  change
• 22:03
  how
• 22:03
  we
• 22:03
  structure
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  show.
• 22:05
  Like
• 22:05
  there's
• 22:05
  a
• 22:06
  structure
• 22:08
  at
• 22:08
  all.
• 22:09
  Yeah,
• 22:10
  that
• 22:10
  is
• 22:10
  totally
• 22:11
  big
• 22:11
  finger
• 22:11
  quotes
• 22:12
  around
• 22:12
  that,
• 22:14
  but
• 22:15
  you
• 22:15
  know
• 22:16
  that.
• 22:16
  So
• 22:16
  our
• 22:16
  expectations
• 22:18
  are
• 22:18
  simply
• 22:19
  that
• 22:20
  we
• 22:20
  have
• 22:21
  fun,
• 22:21
  that
• 22:22
  we
• 22:26
  share
• 22:27
  some
• 22:28
  ideas,
• 22:29
  some
• 22:30
  tips,
• 22:30
  some
• 22:31
  experiences,
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  know,
• 22:33
  whatever
• 22:33
  that
• 22:34
  people
• 22:34
  will
• 22:34
  find
• 22:35
  helpful.
• 22:36
  Yeah,
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  remember
• 22:37
  how
• 22:37
  good
• 22:37
  it
• 22:37
  felt
• 22:38
  because
• 22:38
  we
• 22:38
  never
• 22:39
  knew
• 22:39
  what
• 22:39
  we
• 22:39
  were
• 22:39
  talking
• 22:39
  about
• 22:40
  before,
• 22:40
  before
• 22:40
  we
• 22:41
  started
• 22:41
  talking
• 22:42
  and
• 22:42
  in
• 22:44
  sometimes,
• 22:44
  maybe
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  lot
• 22:45
  of
• 22:45
  the
• 22:45
  time
• 22:45
  we
• 22:46
  would
• 22:46
  finish
• 22:46
  thinking,
• 22:46
  hey,
• 22:47
  wait,
• 22:47
  we
• 22:48
  actually,
• 22:48
  we
• 22:48
  gave
• 22:49
  some
• 22:49
  good
• 22:49
  information
• 22:49
  there.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:50
  it
• 22:50
  felt
• 22:50
  so
• 22:50
  good
• 22:51
  thinking,
• 22:51
  oh,
• 22:52
  somebody
• 22:52
  besides
• 22:52
  me
• 22:53
  is
• 22:53
  going
• 22:53
  to
• 22:53
  benefit
• 22:53
  from
• 22:54
  that.
• 22:54
  Right,
• 22:55
  Right.
• 22:56
  Usually
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  felt
• 22:56
  like
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  was
• 22:57
  the
• 22:57
  case.
• 22:58
  Yeah.
• 23:03
  The
• 23:03
  bar
• 23:03
  is
• 23:03
  pretty
• 23:04
  low.
• 23:04
  If
• 23:04
  all
• 23:04
  we
• 23:04
  want
• 23:05
  is
• 23:05
  the
• 23:06
  two
• 23:06
  of
• 23:06
  us
• 23:06
  plus
• 23:07
  one
• 23:07
  person
• 23:07
  to
• 23:08
  benefit
• 23:08
  from
• 23:08
  it,
• 23:09
  then
• 23:09
  we
• 23:09
  should
• 23:09
  be
• 23:10
  successful.
• 23:11
  And
• 23:12
  for
• 23:13
  really,
• 23:13
  for
• 23:14
  anything,
• 23:14
  I
• 23:14
  mean,
• 23:15
  anything
• 23:15
  that
• 23:15
  you're
• 23:16
  sort
• 23:16
  of
• 23:16
  putting
• 23:17
  out
• 23:17
  into
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  world,
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  think
• 23:19
  that's
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  totally
• 23:19
  reasonable
• 23:20
  bar.
• 23:21
  Yeah.
• 23:22
  You
• 23:22
  know,
• 23:23
  like,
• 23:24
  it's
• 23:24
  so
• 23:25
  easy
• 23:25
  to
• 23:25
  get
• 23:26
  stuck
• 23:26
  on,
• 23:29
  you
• 23:29
  know,
• 23:30
  I
• 23:30
  have
• 23:30
  to.
• 23:31
  This
• 23:31
  has
• 23:31
  to
• 23:32
  reach
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  thousand
• 23:32
  people
• 23:33
  or
• 23:34
  100,000
• 23:35
  people
• 23:35
  or
• 23:36
  10
• 23:36
  people
• 23:37
  even,
• 23:37
  whatever
• 23:37
  it
• 23:38
  is.
• 23:38
  But,
• 23:39
  but
• 23:39
  if
• 23:39
  it's
• 23:39
  just
• 23:39
  if
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  makes
• 23:40
  a
• 23:40
  difference,
• 23:41
  if
• 23:41
  we
• 23:42
  enjoy
• 23:42
  it
• 23:42
  and
• 23:42
  it
• 23:42
  makes
• 23:43
  a
• 23:43
  difference
• 23:43
  for
• 23:43
  one
• 23:43
  person,
• 23:45
  I
• 23:46
  call
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  good
• 23:46
  enough.
• 23:47
  Yeah,
• 23:48
  absolutely.
• 23:49
  I
• 23:49
  think,
• 23:50
  I
• 23:51
  think
• 23:51
  we'll
• 23:51
  achieve
• 23:51
  that.
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  hope
• 23:54
  so.
• 23:55
  Otherwise
• 23:56
  we're
• 23:56
  quitting.
• 23:58
  The
• 23:59
  end.
• 23:59
  That
• 24:00
  was
• 24:00
  a
• 24:00
  very
• 24:00
  short
• 24:01
  lived
• 24:02
  return
• 24:03
  to
• 24:03
  podcasting
• 24:04
  for
• 24:04
  us.
• 24:09
  Oh,
• 24:09
  man.
• 24:11
  So
• 24:13
  I
• 24:13
  don't
• 24:13
  know,
• 24:13
  I,
• 24:14
  like,
• 24:15
  I
• 24:15
  think
• 24:15
  that
• 24:15
  this
• 24:15
  is
• 24:18
  just
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  sort
• 24:18
  of
• 24:18
  a
• 24:19
  good
• 24:19
  way
• 24:20
  of
• 24:20
  thinking
• 24:20
  about
• 24:21
  anything
• 24:22
  that
• 24:23
  you
• 24:23
  want
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  start
• 24:24
  over
• 24:24
  that
• 24:25
  you
• 24:25
  did
• 24:26
  and
• 24:26
  want
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  pick
• 24:27
  up
• 24:27
  again.
• 24:27
  And.
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  noticed,
• 24:30
  like
• 24:31
  there's,
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  know,
• 24:33
  I'm
• 24:33
  a
• 24:33
  serial
• 24:33
  hobbyist.
• 24:34
  Like,
• 24:34
  I
• 24:35
  get
• 24:35
  really
• 24:35
  into
• 24:36
  something
• 24:36
  and
• 24:36
  then
• 24:36
  I
• 24:37
  drop
• 24:37
  it
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  get
• 24:37
  really
• 24:37
  into
• 24:38
  something
• 24:38
  else
• 24:38
  and
• 24:38
  drop
• 24:39
  it
• 24:39
  and
• 24:39
  get
• 24:39
  really
• 24:39
  into
• 24:40
  something
• 24:40
  else.
• 24:40
  And
• 24:41
  it's.
• 24:41
  Sometimes
• 24:42
  it's
• 24:42
  hard
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  go
• 24:43
  back
• 24:43
  to
• 24:43
  stuff
• 24:44
  because
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  feel
• 24:46
  like
• 24:48
  I'm
• 24:48
  not
• 24:48
  going
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  be
• 24:49
  able
• 24:49
  to
• 24:49
  do
• 24:49
  it
• 24:49
  as
• 24:49
  well
• 24:49
  as
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  want
• 24:50
  to
• 24:51
  or
• 24:53
  I
• 24:54
  won't
• 24:54
  remember
• 24:54
  how
• 24:55
  to
• 24:55
  do
• 24:55
  it
• 24:56
  or,
• 24:56
  you
• 24:57
  know,
• 24:57
  whatever
• 24:58
  perfectionistic
• 24:59
  things
• 25:01
  get
• 25:01
  in
• 25:01
  my
• 25:01
  head.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:03
  I
• 25:04
  think
• 25:04
  this
• 25:04
  is
• 25:04
  just
• 25:04
  a
• 25:05
  good
• 25:05
  reminder
• 25:05
  that
• 25:07
  it's
• 25:10
  just
• 25:12
  taking
• 25:12
  a
• 25:12
  small
• 25:13
  step,
• 25:13
  you
• 25:14
  know,
• 25:14
  just
• 25:14
  we
• 25:15
  don't
• 25:15
  have
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  have
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  whole
• 25:16
  thing
• 25:16
  figured
• 25:16
  out.
• 25:18
  Yeah,
• 25:19
  we're
• 25:19
  free.
• 25:19
  We're
• 25:20
  lucky
• 25:20
  because
• 25:20
  we're
• 25:20
  free
• 25:21
  from
• 25:22
  feeling
• 25:23
  like
• 25:23
  we
• 25:23
  have
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  make
• 25:23
  it
• 25:24
  perfect
• 25:24
  because
• 25:24
  we
• 25:25
  have
• 25:25
  this
• 25:25
  great
• 25:25
  excuse
• 25:27
  not
• 25:27
  to
• 25:27
  be
• 25:27
  Perfect.
• 25:28
  But
• 25:29
  truly,
• 25:29
  if
• 25:30
  you
• 25:31
  can
• 25:31
  get
• 25:31
  away
• 25:32
  from
• 25:33
  worrying
• 25:33
  that
• 25:33
  everything's
• 25:34
  going
• 25:34
  to
• 25:34
  be
• 25:35
  perfect,
• 25:37
  then
• 25:37
  it's
• 25:37
  so
• 25:38
  much
• 25:38
  easier
• 25:38
  to
• 25:39
  start
• 25:39
  or
• 25:39
  do
• 25:39
  anything.
• 25:40
  Or
• 25:41
  as
• 25:41
  you
• 25:41
  say,
• 25:41
  as
• 25:41
  we
• 25:42
  were
• 25:42
  talking
• 25:42
  about
• 25:42
  going
• 25:42
  back
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  something.
• 25:43
  Yeah.
• 25:44
  Because
• 25:44
  when
• 25:44
  you've
• 25:44
  left
• 25:45
  something,
• 25:47
  if
• 25:47
  you
• 25:48
  start
• 25:48
  focusing
• 25:49
  on
• 25:49
  the
• 25:49
  reasons
• 25:49
  you
• 25:50
  left
• 25:50
  rather
• 25:50
  than
• 25:50
  what
• 25:50
  you
• 25:51
  miss,
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  think
• 25:54
  it
• 25:54
  can
• 25:54
  be
• 25:54
  harder
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  go
• 25:55
  back
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  it.
• 25:55
  But
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  feel
• 25:56
  like.
• 25:57
  I'm
• 25:57
  feeling
• 25:57
  like
• 25:58
  this
• 25:58
  is
• 25:58
  going
• 25:58
  to
• 25:58
  give
• 25:58
  me
• 25:59
  a
• 25:59
  reference
• 26:00
  point
• 26:00
  down
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  road
• 26:01
  for
• 26:01
  other
• 26:01
  things
• 26:01
  as
• 26:01
  well.
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  don't
• 26:02
  know.
• 26:02
  It
• 26:03
  feels
• 26:03
  big
• 26:03
  to
• 26:04
  leave
• 26:05
  something
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  then
• 26:05
  come
• 26:05
  back
• 26:06
  to
• 26:06
  it.
• 26:06
  Yeah.
• 26:07
  I'm
• 26:07
  really,
• 26:07
  really
• 26:08
  excited
• 26:08
  by
• 26:08
  it.
• 26:09
  And
• 26:09
  I
• 26:10
  guess
• 26:10
  that
• 26:10
  people
• 26:11
  could.
• 26:13
  I
• 26:13
  mean,
• 26:13
  you
• 26:14
  could
• 26:14
  have
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  sense
• 26:14
  maybe
• 26:15
  not,
• 26:16
  I
• 26:16
  don't
• 26:16
  know,
• 26:16
  that
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  felt
• 26:17
  this
• 26:17
  way
• 26:17
  with
• 26:17
  the
• 26:18
  podcast,
• 26:18
  but
• 26:18
  that
• 26:19
  if
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  end
• 26:19
  something
• 26:20
  or
• 26:20
  quit
• 26:20
  something,
• 26:21
  that
• 26:21
  it's.
• 26:22
  That
• 26:22
  maybe
• 26:23
  there's
• 26:23
  a
• 26:23
  bit
• 26:24
  of
• 26:24
  a
• 26:24
  feeling
• 26:24
  of
• 26:25
  failure
• 26:26
  in
• 26:26
  there.
• 26:27
  And
• 26:28
  that
• 26:29
  going.
• 26:30
  That
• 26:30
  makes
• 26:30
  going
• 26:30
  back
• 26:31
  to
• 26:31
  it
• 26:31
  harder.
• 26:32
  Like
• 26:32
  you're
• 26:33
  walk.
• 26:33
  Going
• 26:33
  back
• 26:33
  with
• 26:33
  your
• 26:33
  tail
• 26:34
  between
• 26:34
  your
• 26:34
  legs.
• 26:35
  Right.
• 26:36
  Instead
• 26:37
  of.
• 26:38
  Yeah.
• 26:39
  Did
• 26:40
  that
• 26:40
  make
• 26:40
  sense?
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  mean,
• 26:40
  when
• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  said
• 26:41
  that,
• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  thought.
• 26:41
  Did
• 26:42
  that
• 26:42
  make
• 26:42
  sense?
• 26:42
  And
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  knew
• 26:43
  what
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  meant.
• 26:44
  Yeah.
• 26:45
  Like.
• 26:45
  Well,
• 26:45
  you
• 26:46
  know,
• 26:46
  like
• 26:46
  a
• 26:46
  little
• 26:46
  sheepish.
• 26:47
  Like,
• 26:48
  oh,
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  didn't
• 26:49
  really
• 26:49
  mean
• 26:49
  to
• 26:50
  quit.
• 26:50
  And
• 26:50
  I'm
• 26:51
  back
• 26:51
  and
• 26:53
  I
• 26:54
  hope
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  wasn't
• 26:55
  a
• 26:55
  problem,
• 26:55
  that
• 26:55
  I've
• 26:56
  been
• 26:56
  gone
• 26:56
  for
• 26:56
  two
• 26:56
  years.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 26:59
  And
• 26:59
  I.
• 27:00
  You
• 27:00
  know,
• 27:00
  it's
• 27:00
  funny,
• 27:01
  that
• 27:01
  didn't
• 27:01
  really
• 27:01
  occur
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  me
• 27:02
  in
• 27:02
  this
• 27:03
  case
• 27:03
  with
• 27:03
  the
• 27:04
  podcast
• 27:04
  at
• 27:04
  all,
• 27:04
  but
• 27:06
  that
• 27:09
  comes
• 27:09
  up
• 27:09
  with
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  lot
• 27:10
  of
• 27:10
  other
• 27:10
  things,
• 27:11
  like
• 27:11
  I
• 27:11
  was
• 27:11
  talking
• 27:12
  about
• 27:12
  with
• 27:12
  my
• 27:12
  hobbies.
• 27:12
  Like,
• 27:13
  I've
• 27:13
  been
• 27:13
  really
• 27:13
  wanting
• 27:14
  to.
• 27:15
  One,
• 27:15
  one
• 27:16
  of
• 27:16
  the
• 27:16
  hobbies
• 27:16
  I
• 27:17
  took
• 27:17
  up
• 27:17
  during
• 27:17
  the
• 27:18
  hiatus
• 27:19
  was
• 27:19
  wooden
• 27:19
  spoon
• 27:20
  carving.
• 27:20
  Who
• 27:21
  doesn't
• 27:21
  do
• 27:21
  that,
• 27:22
  really?
• 27:22
  I
• 27:22
  know.
• 27:22
  I
• 27:23
  mean.
• 27:23
  Yeah.
• 27:26
  It
• 27:26
  was
• 27:26
  so
• 27:26
  random.
• 27:27
  This
• 27:28
  is
• 27:28
  really
• 27:28
  fun.
• 27:29
  And
• 27:29
  I
• 27:29
  did
• 27:31
  several
• 27:31
  spoons,
• 27:32
  and
• 27:32
  then
• 27:34
  it's.
• 27:35
  You
• 27:35
  have
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  get
• 27:36
  certain
• 27:36
  kinds
• 27:36
  of
• 27:36
  wood,
• 27:36
  and
• 27:37
  it's
• 27:37
  a
• 27:37
  whole
• 27:37
  thing.
• 27:38
  And
• 27:38
  then
• 27:38
  I
• 27:38
  didn't
• 27:38
  get
• 27:39
  wood,
• 27:39
  and
• 27:40
  now
• 27:40
  I
• 27:40
  have
• 27:40
  some
• 27:41
  wood
• 27:41
  sitting
• 27:41
  in
• 27:42
  my
• 27:42
  freezer
• 27:43
  because
• 27:43
  you
• 27:43
  have
• 27:43
  to
• 27:44
  not
• 27:45
  lose
• 27:45
  the
• 27:45
  moisture
• 27:46
  because
• 27:46
  it's
• 27:46
  green
• 27:47
  wood
• 27:47
  carving,
• 27:50
  and
• 27:50
  I
• 27:50
  have
• 27:51
  yet
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  pull
• 27:52
  any
• 27:52
  out
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  carve
• 27:53
  again.
• 27:54
  And
• 27:54
  it
• 27:54
  feels
• 27:54
  like,
• 27:56
  I
• 27:56
  don't
• 27:56
  know,
• 27:56
  like
• 27:57
  somehow
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  failed
• 27:57
  by
• 27:58
  not
• 27:58
  continuing
• 27:58
  to
• 27:59
  do
• 27:59
  it.
• 27:59
  Like,
• 27:59
  I
• 27:59
  should
• 27:59
  have
• 28:00
  just
• 28:00
  kept
• 28:00
  doing
• 28:00
  it
• 28:01
  this
• 28:01
  whole
• 28:01
  time.
• 28:03
  But
• 28:03
  you
• 28:03
  have
• 28:04
  wood
• 28:04
  waiting
• 28:04
  for
• 28:04
  you
• 28:04
  in
• 28:04
  the
• 28:05
  freezer,
• 28:05
  so
• 28:05
  you
• 28:05
  can't
• 28:06
  let
• 28:06
  that
• 28:06
  feeling
• 28:07
  stop
• 28:07
  you
• 28:08
  from
• 28:08
  getting
• 28:09
  back
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  it.
• 28:10
  No.
• 28:10
  Right.
• 28:11
  Yeah.
• 28:11
  Right.
• 28:12
  Yeah.
• 28:12
  It's
• 28:12
  gonna
• 28:12
  be
• 28:12
  great.
• 28:14
  So.
• 28:15
  Yeah.
• 28:16
  Maybe
• 28:16
  by
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  time
• 28:17
  this
• 28:17
  episode
• 28:18
  Airs.
• 28:19
  I
• 28:19
  will
• 28:20
  have
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  new
• 28:21
  spoon
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  share.
• 28:23
  Oh,
• 28:24
  and
• 28:25
  maybe
• 28:25
  we
• 28:25
  could
• 28:25
  share
• 28:26
  a
• 28:26
  picture
• 28:26
  of
• 28:26
  it
• 28:26
  on
• 28:27
  social
• 28:27
  media
• 28:27
  around
• 28:27
  the
• 28:28
  time
• 28:28
  this
• 28:28
  episode
• 28:29
  airs.
• 28:30
  If
• 28:30
  that's
• 28:30
  the
• 28:31
  case.
• 28:31
  No
• 28:32
  pressure.
• 28:32
  This
• 28:33
  feels
• 28:33
  like
• 28:33
  a
• 28:33
  challenge,
• 28:35
  which,
• 28:36
  you
• 28:36
  know
• 28:36
  is
• 28:37
  like,
• 28:37
  ooh,
• 28:37
  pressure.
• 28:37
  But
• 28:38
  also,
• 28:39
  I'm
• 28:39
  always
• 28:39
  down
• 28:40
  for
• 28:40
  a
• 28:40
  challenge.
• 28:40
  I
• 28:41
  was
• 28:41
  gonna
• 28:41
  say
• 28:41
  you
• 28:41
  love
• 28:41
  a
• 28:42
  challenge.
• 28:42
  I
• 28:42
  do
• 28:43
  love
• 28:43
  a
• 28:43
  challenge.
• 28:46
  Yeah.
• 28:47
  Oh,
• 28:47
  that's
• 28:47
  excellent.
• 28:48
  I
• 28:48
  want
• 28:48
  to
• 28:49
  see
• 28:49
  your
• 28:49
  spoon.
• 28:49
  I'm
• 28:49
  excited
• 28:50
  by
• 28:50
  your.
• 28:50
  The
• 28:51
  notion
• 28:51
  of
• 28:51
  your
• 28:51
  spoon.
• 28:53
  Of
• 28:53
  seeing.
• 28:54
  Seeing
• 28:54
  a
• 28:54
  new
• 28:54
  spoon.
• 28:55
  Seeing
• 28:55
  a
• 28:56
  new
• 28:56
  spoon.
• 28:56
  You
• 28:56
  haven't
• 28:56
  seen
• 28:57
  any
• 28:57
  of
• 28:57
  my
• 28:57
  spoons
• 28:57
  in
• 28:58
  real
• 28:58
  life,
• 28:58
  have
• 28:58
  you?
• 28:59
  I
• 29:00
  don't
• 29:00
  think
• 29:00
  so.
• 29:01
  I
• 29:01
  haven't
• 29:01
  been
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  your
• 29:02
  house
• 29:02
  since
• 29:02
  October
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  23.
• 29:03
  Were
• 29:04
  there
• 29:04
  spoons?
• 29:09
  No,
• 29:09
  the
• 29:09
  spoons.
• 29:10
  The
• 29:10
  spoon
• 29:11
  making
• 29:11
  happened
• 29:12
  in
• 29:13
  March
• 29:13
  of
• 29:13
  24,
• 29:14
  so
• 29:15
  you
• 29:15
  wouldn't
• 29:16
  have
• 29:16
  seen
• 29:16
  them.
• 29:16
  So
• 29:16
  I've
• 29:17
  just
• 29:17
  heard
• 29:17
  about
• 29:17
  them.
• 29:18
  I
• 29:18
  think
• 29:18
  I've
• 29:18
  seen
• 29:18
  a
• 29:18
  picture,
• 29:19
  probably.
• 29:21
  Well,
• 29:21
  all
• 29:22
  right.
• 29:23
  Throwing
• 29:23
  down
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  gauntlet.
• 29:24
  I
• 29:24
  will
• 29:25
  have
• 29:25
  a
• 29:25
  new
• 29:25
  spoon
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  share
• 29:28
  by
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  time
• 29:28
  we
• 29:29
  air
• 29:29
  this
• 29:29
  episode.
• 29:31
  Excellent.
• 29:32
  This
• 29:32
  is
• 29:32
  one
• 29:33
  of
• 29:33
  those
• 29:33
  benefits
• 29:33
  to
• 29:34
  the
• 29:34
  podcast
• 29:34
  I'd
• 29:34
  forgotten
• 29:35
  about.
• 29:36
  I
• 29:36
  know.
• 29:36
  Yeah.
• 29:37
  That
• 29:37
  public
• 29:37
  accountability.
• 29:39
  Right.
• 29:39
  Excellent.
• 29:40
  I
• 29:40
  know.
• 29:41
  Not
• 29:41
  like
• 29:42
  anyone
• 29:42
  is
• 29:42
  ever
• 29:43
  gonna
• 29:43
  say
• 29:43
  anything.
• 29:44
  Like,
• 29:45
  it's
• 29:45
  not
• 29:45
  like
• 29:46
  someone's
• 29:47
  gonna
• 29:48
  march
• 29:48
  up
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  me
• 29:49
  and
• 29:49
  be
• 29:49
  like,
• 29:49
  you
• 29:49
  said
• 29:50
  you
• 29:50
  were
• 29:50
  gonna
• 29:50
  have
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  spoon.
• 29:51
  Where's
• 29:51
  your
• 29:51
  spoon?
• 29:52
  I
• 29:53
  don't
• 29:53
  know.
• 29:53
  Maybe
• 29:53
  they
• 29:53
  were.
• 29:56
  Frankly,
• 29:57
  I
• 29:57
  could
• 29:57
  say
• 29:57
  that
• 29:58
  to
• 29:58
  you.
• 29:59
  Yeah.
• 30:00
  Yeah.
• 30:03
  Excellent.
• 30:04
  Well,
• 30:04
  good.
• 30:04
  Now
• 30:05
  we
• 30:05
  have
• 30:05
  an
• 30:05
  image
• 30:06
  for
• 30:06
  social
• 30:06
  media.
• 30:07
  Yay.
• 30:08
  Yeah.
• 30:10
  Well,
• 30:11
  we
• 30:11
  don't
• 30:11
  have
• 30:11
  it
• 30:11
  yet,
• 30:12
  but
• 30:12
  we
• 30:12
  will
• 30:12
  have
• 30:13
  it.
• 30:13
  We
• 30:13
  will.
• 30:15
  All
• 30:15
  right.
• 30:16
  Well,
• 30:17
  I
• 30:18
  am
• 30:18
  just
• 30:18
  happy
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  be
• 30:20
  here
• 30:21
  again.
• 30:21
  I'm
• 30:22
  so
• 30:22
  happy
• 30:22
  to,
• 30:23
  like,
• 30:24
  get
• 30:24
  back
• 30:24
  into
• 30:24
  this
• 30:25
  rhythm
• 30:25
  of
• 30:26
  recording
• 30:27
  each
• 30:27
  week
• 30:28
  and
• 30:29
  releasing
• 30:30
  new
• 30:30
  episodes
• 30:31
  each
• 30:31
  week.
• 30:31
  And
• 30:32
  now
• 30:32
  I'll
• 30:33
  have
• 30:33
  the
• 30:33
  video
• 30:33
  and
• 30:34
  everything.
• 30:34
  That'll
• 30:34
  be
• 30:34
  really
• 30:34
  fun.
• 30:35
  And
• 30:36
  we
• 30:36
  get
• 30:36
  to
• 30:37
  see
• 30:37
  how
• 30:37
  much
• 30:37
  I
• 30:37
  talk
• 30:37
  with
• 30:38
  my
• 30:38
  hands.
• 30:39
  Right.
• 30:40
  Everyone
• 30:40
  will
• 30:40
  find
• 30:41
  out
• 30:41
  that
• 30:41
  you're
• 30:41
  a
• 30:41
  hand
• 30:42
  talker.
• 30:42
  I
• 30:43
  am
• 30:43
  a
• 30:43
  hand
• 30:43
  talker,
• 30:44
  and
• 30:44
  I've
• 30:45
  been
• 30:45
  trying
• 30:45
  to,
• 30:45
  like,
• 30:45
  hold
• 30:46
  my
• 30:46
  hands
• 30:46
  in
• 30:46
  front
• 30:47
  of
• 30:47
  me,
• 30:47
  like,
• 30:47
  clasped
• 30:48
  together,
• 30:48
  so
• 30:49
  I.
• 30:49
  They're
• 30:49
  not
• 30:49
  waving
• 30:50
  around
• 30:50
  and,
• 30:51
  like,
• 30:51
  doing.
• 30:52
  Stuff,
• 30:52
  but
• 30:52
  it's
• 30:53
  authentic
• 30:53
  for
• 30:53
  them
• 30:54
  to
• 30:54
  wave
• 30:54
  around.
• 30:54
  I
• 30:55
  see
• 30:55
  nothing
• 30:55
  wrong
• 30:55
  with
• 30:55
  it.
• 30:56
  Yeah.
• 30:57
  So
• 30:59
  we
• 30:59
  are
• 31:00
  really
• 31:01
  excited
• 31:01
  to
• 31:03
  be
• 31:03
  back
• 31:04
  with
• 31:05
  you,
• 31:05
  our
• 31:05
  listeners,
• 31:06
  and
• 31:07
  we
• 31:07
  hope
• 31:08
  that
• 31:08
  if
• 31:08
  you
• 31:09
  enjoy
• 31:09
  the
• 31:10
  podcast,
• 31:10
  that
• 31:11
  you
• 31:11
  will
• 31:12
  leave
• 31:12
  us
• 31:13
  a
• 31:13
  review
• 31:14
  on
• 31:15
  your
• 31:15
  podcast
• 31:17
  platform
• 31:17
  of
• 31:17
  choice.
• 31:19
  That's
• 31:19
  right.
• 31:19
  Because
• 31:20
  Apple
• 31:22
  archived
• 31:22
  us,
• 31:22
  we
• 31:23
  have
• 31:23
  no
• 31:23
  reviews
• 31:23
  on
• 31:23
  Apple
• 31:24
  podcasts
• 31:24
  anymore.
• 31:24
  Correct?
• 31:25
  Right.
• 31:26
  That
• 31:26
  is
• 31:26
  correct.
• 31:27
  So
• 31:27
  we
• 31:27
  need
• 31:27
  your
• 31:27
  reviews.
• 31:28
  Yeah.
• 31:29
  So
• 31:29
  help
• 31:30
  us.
• 31:30
  It
• 31:30
  really
• 31:30
  makes
• 31:31
  a
• 31:31
  difference
• 31:32
  the
• 31:33
  more
• 31:33
  reviews
• 31:34
  and
• 31:34
  ratings,
• 31:35
  particularly
• 31:36
  if
• 31:36
  you
• 31:36
  like
• 31:36
  us
• 31:37
  and
• 31:37
  give
• 31:37
  us
• 31:37
  five
• 31:37
  stars,
• 31:39
  the
• 31:40
  more
• 31:40
  likely
• 31:41
  that
• 31:41
  other
• 31:41
  people
• 31:42
  will
• 31:42
  hear
• 31:42
  about
• 31:43
  us.
• 31:43
  And
• 31:44
  that's
• 31:45
  always
• 31:45
  good.
• 31:47
  The
• 31:47
  more
• 31:47
  the
• 31:47
  merrier.
• 31:48
  That's
• 31:48
  right.
• 31:48
  And
• 31:48
  we're
• 31:49
  planning
• 31:50
  to
• 31:50
  be
• 31:50
  a
• 31:50
  little
• 31:50
  more
• 31:50
  active
• 31:50
  on
• 31:51
  social
• 31:51
  media.
• 31:51
  We
• 31:51
  can't
• 31:52
  do
• 31:53
  comments
• 31:53
  on
• 31:53
  our
• 31:54
  new
• 31:55
  platform's
• 31:56
  website,
• 31:56
  so
• 31:57
  it
• 31:57
  used
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  be
• 31:57
  we
• 31:58
  could
• 31:58
  interact
• 31:58
  with
• 31:58
  y'
• 31:59
  all
• 31:59
  through
• 31:59
  comments
• 32:00
  on
• 32:00
  the
• 32:00
  website.
• 32:00
  That.
• 32:01
  That's
• 32:01
  not
• 32:01
  possible
• 32:02
  anymore.
• 32:02
  But
• 32:03
  we'll
• 32:03
  be
• 32:03
  on
• 32:04
  Instagram
• 32:04
  and
• 32:05
  Facebook
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  YouTube.
• 32:07
  Yes.
• 32:07
  Yes.
• 32:08
  So,
• 32:09
  yeah,
• 32:09
  you'll
• 32:09
  always.
• 32:10
  You'll
• 32:10
  be
• 32:11
  able
• 32:11
  to
• 32:11
  find
• 32:11
  the
• 32:13
  video
• 32:13
  version
• 32:14
  of
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  podcast
• 32:15
  on
• 32:15
  YouTube
• 32:15
  and
• 32:16
  you
• 32:16
  can
• 32:16
  subscribe
• 32:17
  there,
• 32:18
  comment
• 32:18
  there.
• 32:19
  And
• 32:20
  then
• 32:20
  of
• 32:20
  course,
• 32:21
  we'll
• 32:21
  be
• 32:24
  updating
• 32:25
  Instagram
• 32:25
  and
• 32:25
  Facebook
• 32:26
  with
• 32:26
  new
• 32:26
  episodes
• 32:27
  and
• 32:27
  maybe
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  little
• 32:28
  behind
• 32:28
  the
• 32:29
  scenes
• 32:29
  stuff.
• 32:30
  I
• 32:30
  don't
• 32:31
  know.
• 32:31
  It's
• 32:31
  like
• 32:32
  so
• 32:33
  much
• 32:33
  more
• 32:33
  fun
• 32:33
  now.
• 32:35
  Well,
• 32:35
  good.
• 32:35
  Yay.
• 32:36
  And
• 32:36
  you
• 32:37
  can
• 32:37
  comment
• 32:37
  there
• 32:37
  too.
• 32:38
  So
• 32:38
  we'll
• 32:38
  be
• 32:39
  obviously
• 32:39
  keeping
• 32:39
  an
• 32:39
  eye
• 32:40
  on
• 32:40
  it.
• 32:40
  So
• 32:40
  we'd
• 32:40
  love
• 32:41
  to
• 32:41
  interact
• 32:41
  with
• 32:41
  you.
• 32:44
  And
• 32:44
  now
• 32:44
  how
• 32:45
  to
• 32:45
  wrap
• 32:45
  this
• 32:45
  up?
• 32:45
  Do
• 32:45
  we.
• 32:46
  No,
• 32:46
  because
• 32:47
  this
• 32:47
  is
• 32:48
  all
• 32:48
  different
• 32:48
  than
• 32:48
  it
• 32:49
  was
• 32:49
  before.
• 32:53
  Feels
• 32:54
  like
• 32:54
  we
• 32:54
  could
• 32:54
  wrap
• 32:55
  it
• 32:55
  up,
• 32:55
  though.
• 32:56
  I
• 32:56
  think
• 32:56
  so.
• 32:57
  And
• 32:58
  as
• 32:59
  I
• 32:59
  recall,
• 33:01
  we
• 33:01
  would
• 33:01
  say
• 33:02
  that
• 33:02
  we
• 33:03
  hope
• 33:03
  that
• 33:03
  Good
• 33:04
  Enough
• 33:04
  is
• 33:04
  getting
• 33:05
  easier
• 33:05
  for
• 33:05
  you.
• 33:06
  For
• 33:06
  you.
• 33:07
  Yes.
• 33:10
  Thanks
• 33:10
  for
• 33:11
  joining
• 33:11
  us
• 33:11
  on
• 33:11
  Getting
• 33:12
  to
• 33:12
  Good
• 33:12
  Enough.
• 33:12
  We
• 33:13
  hope
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
  heard
• 33:13
  something
• 33:14
  that
• 33:14
  makes
• 33:14
  your
• 33:14
  life
• 33:15
  just
• 33:15
  a
• 33:15
  little
• 33:15
  bit
• 33:16
  easier.
• 33:16
  If
• 33:17
  you
• 33:17
  did,
• 33:17
  leave
• 33:18
  us
• 33:18
  a
• 33:18
  review
• 33:18
  or
• 33:19
  share
• 33:19
  this
• 33:19
  with
• 33:19
  someone
• 33:20
  who's
• 33:20
  looking
• 33:20
  for
• 33:21
  their
• 33:21
  own
• 33:21
  version
• 33:22
  of
• 33:22
  Good
• 33:22
  Enough.
• 33:22
  Thanks
• 33:23
  for
• 33:23
  listening.
• 33:24
  See
• 33:24
  you
• 33:24
  soon.