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Inside the AL East: Yankees updates w/Erik Boland + Will the Orioles make a legit Wild Card run? · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Oh, I like that on the record with Eric Boland
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Speaker 1: joining US Yankees beat writer for News to Day, Eric,
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Speaker 1: thanks for swinging back on FT Yes, krats wiki wiki.
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Speaker 1: So what's going on with the Yanks right now? There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of he's back, he's out. Give us the
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Speaker 1: pitching breakdown first.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, First of all, nice to talk to you
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Speaker 2: guys again, and Eric, having covered you for at least
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Speaker 2: a little bit in the Yankees clubhouse a few years ago.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you know as well. And Hi Kevin,
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Speaker 2: nice to meet you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Look, the biggest one obviously Max Free last night that
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Speaker 2: kind of came out of nowhere. He pitched pretty well
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Speaker 2: in his previous start against Seattle last Thursday, gave up
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Speaker 2: one run I think it was four hits. Afterwards that
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Speaker 2: there was no signs of anything wrong with him, he
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Speaker 2: said that he felt a little bit erradic, but you know,
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Speaker 2: you guys, know you don't pitchers take the mound more
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Speaker 2: often than not without their best stuff, So they're usually
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Speaker 2: grinding through on a you know, every five days basis.
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Speaker 2: But then last night they made the announcement that he
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Speaker 2: was going back on the IL with the bone bruis
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Speaker 2: in his left elbow, and that's the same injury that
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Speaker 2: had him out for two months earlier in the season.
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Speaker 2: And as Kevin and Eric certainly can tell you, it's
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Speaker 2: usually not a good prognosis for a professional athlete when
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Speaker 2: ends up in a single season back on the injured
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Speaker 2: list with the same injury that put him there earlier
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Speaker 2: in a given season.
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Speaker 4: Did they feel like the cause of the bone bruise
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Speaker 4: was the exact cause and did they fix that cause
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Speaker 4: coming off the il last time, or is it something
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Speaker 4: that since it's continuing to happen now, they're thinking they
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Speaker 4: need to figure out what was causing it and not
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Speaker 4: just letting it heal like they had for the last
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Speaker 4: two months.
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Speaker 2: Not to dodge you on that one, Eric, but they
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Speaker 2: made that announcement last night about seven seven thirty, So
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Speaker 2: we have not been had any access to the Yankees
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Speaker 2: as yet. Their clubhouse opening up in an hour or so,
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Speaker 2: and we'll probably, you know, hopefully get a little bit
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Speaker 2: more clarification on exactly the nature of Freed's injury. It's
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Speaker 2: worded the exact same way as the first injury, the
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Speaker 2: bone bruise and his left elbow, but in terms of
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Speaker 2: is this a new one. Is this one that didn't
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Speaker 2: heal the first time around? Did something aggravated, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: We don't know that yet.
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Speaker 4: When he was well then to follow up with that
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Speaker 4: when he was on the ail last time. Was it
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Speaker 4: just rest and recover? Was there something that he needed
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Speaker 4: to change to not have it comeback?
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Speaker 2: My understanding was Eric that it was just a rest
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Speaker 2: in recovery rehab for him during these two months.
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Speaker 3: Yep, okay, Speaking.
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Speaker 5: Of injuries, Belly was supposed to start his rehab assignment today.
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Speaker 5: They pushed it back a couple of days. Is there
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Speaker 5: was there a stepback or did he just feel like
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Speaker 5: he needed a little bit more work before he got
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Speaker 5: into a game.
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Speaker 2: No, Kevin, Actually, this was just sort of a this
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Speaker 2: is my eighteenth year covering the Yankees, and you know
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Speaker 2: they theyre as forthcoming with injury information as the CIA
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Speaker 2: typically is with the information that they protect. So this
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Speaker 2: is not This is not someone who's a homer covering
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Speaker 2: this team and saying, oh, well, we'll take the Yankees'
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Speaker 2: word at it.
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Speaker 3: This was really a case of somebody miss speaking.
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Speaker 2: Boone was asked before the game in Toronto on Sunday afternoon.
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Speaker 2: The boy the question was phrased, was so Bellinger started
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Speaker 2: his rehab assignment on Tuesday, And Boone, who wasn't entirely sure,
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Speaker 2: just said, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: That is.
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Speaker 2: And then after the game he clarified and said, I
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Speaker 2: misspoke before the game, He's actually we're going to have
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Speaker 2: him to do a couple of more days of the
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Speaker 2: pregame work that he's been going through. I've actually been
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Speaker 2: watching Bellinger here Cambin Yards go through some of what
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Speaker 2: we saw him do in Toronto before some of those games.
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Speaker 2: But they just wanted to Kevin have him do a
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Speaker 2: couple of more days of that and then start a
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Speaker 2: rehab game at the end of this week, probably Thursday
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Speaker 2: or Friday. So this is not I'm plenty skeptical when
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Speaker 2: it comes to the the Yankees and talking about injuries,
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Speaker 2: but I think this was just a good natured mistake,
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Speaker 2: a good natured misspeak if you will, by Boom before
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Speaker 2: the game on Sunday, And he made a point after
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Speaker 2: the game when we were talking to him of correcting that.
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Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm gonna I want to stay on that topic
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Speaker 5: real quick. So them being harder than the CIA to
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Speaker 5: get information, and I know the type of injury that
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Speaker 5: Aaron Judge had is very kind of unpredictable. There's not
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Speaker 5: like a formula for how that's supposed to heal. But
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Speaker 5: is that part of the factor of why we're not
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Speaker 5: hearing much about Aaron Judge is because they keep stuff
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Speaker 5: close to the vest where there's just nothing to really
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Speaker 5: report at this point in time.
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Speaker 2: I'm havin to dug in on this with people in
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Speaker 2: the organization that I that I know since Judge went down,
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Speaker 2: and you know, from the start there was there was
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Speaker 2: concern that this would be a long lasting thing. And
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Speaker 2: I remember when they put him on the injured list
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Speaker 2: on June fifth. I remember talking to the organization who
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Speaker 2: said to me, look, if you presented to us now
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Speaker 2: that he'd be back by August fifteenth, we'd sign on
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Speaker 2: the dotted line for that, and I think Aaron would
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Speaker 2: as well. They're just uber protective of any information Judge related.
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Speaker 2: Some of that goes back to twenty eighteen when he
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Speaker 2: took a hit by pitch off his hand and had
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Speaker 2: a broken hand.
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Speaker 3: Jacob Junas I think the Royals was one who ran
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Speaker 3: with a pitch.
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Speaker 2: And the Yankees publicly offered a timeline for when Judge
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Speaker 2: might start swinging a bat again and get baseball activities
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Speaker 2: ramped up. Long story short, the hands a little bit
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Speaker 2: slower than was anticipated. And you know, frankly, Judge and
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Speaker 2: I certainly get this, got a little bit tired of
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Speaker 2: us constantly asking him, Hey, the timeline came and went
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Speaker 2: from when you were supposed to hit again?
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Speaker 3: What's going on? What's going on?
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Speaker 2: And ever since then, the Yankees had been extra extra
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Speaker 2: careful whenever Judge has been hurt in terms of disseminating
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Speaker 2: any information, and you almost never hear them give a
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Speaker 2: timeline of any kind. And it was funny before the
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Speaker 2: Apple TV game on on Friday, Aaron Boone told the
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Speaker 2: reporter Trisha Whittaker, he actually, for the first time anybody
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Speaker 2: in the organization gave some kind of a timeline, telling
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Speaker 2: her that it was might be a month or so,
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Speaker 2: couched a little bit in vagueness, but said maybe a month.
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Speaker 2: But then when we follow up and asked him about
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Speaker 2: that on Saturday morning before that afternoon's game at Roger Center,
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Speaker 2: Boone kind of pulled back on that a little bit.
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Speaker 2: So you know, they're they're still cloaking this in as
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Speaker 2: much uh mystery as as possible.
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Speaker 3: But Kevin, you alluded to it. I mean, anybody that.
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Speaker 2: I've talked to professional athlete who has had a broken
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Speaker 2: rib something similar to what Aaron Judge has, they all
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Speaker 2: talk about how you know, there's no template for it.
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Speaker 3: They heal it at a different pace.
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Speaker 2: And you know, once she is clear into dark baseball activities,
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Speaker 2: he's going to have to build back up because he's
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Speaker 2: spent the better part of the last ten weeks now
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Speaker 2: not doing anything upper body related. And I don't have
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Speaker 2: to tell you Eric and you Kevin, for you guys
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Speaker 2: that are generally in the weight room, what three hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixty five days a year, Judge isn't going to
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Speaker 2: suddenly in a snap be ready and let's say a
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Speaker 2: week once they determine that he can start restart baseball
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Speaker 4: What did you make of Aaron Boone's comment or answer
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Speaker 4: to the question of what's going on with John Carlow
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Speaker 4: Because he said we're introducing basis. Does that mean like
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Speaker 4: he walked out to the field and they showed him
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Speaker 4: when you go from first to second. It seemed like
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Speaker 4: a very fine comment, but I felt like it was
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Speaker 4: kind of like a shot at like, hey, we're going
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Speaker 4: to reintroduce him to cleats and the dirt is there
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Speaker 4: is there something more to that.
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Speaker 2: It's the kind of sarcasm I expect out of out
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Speaker 2: of a writer and not a.
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Speaker 3: Former MLB ard. So that's that's well done. Very I
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Speaker 3: think that.
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Speaker 2: Look, I mean John Carlow's had since he's been with
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Speaker 2: the Yankees, he's had at least one injured IL stint
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Speaker 2: every single year. He played one hundred and fifty eight
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Speaker 2: games since first year in twenty eighteen, and then since
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Speaker 2: then he's had a at least one I stint. The
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Speaker 2: vast majority of them have been lower body related. So
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Speaker 2: to me, reading between the fee leaves and I've seen
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Speaker 2: some of the running that he's done out on the field,
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Speaker 2: which they did to introduce him to that that basically
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Speaker 2: means that that he's running the bases at you know,
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Speaker 2: adder near full speed, at least at her near full speed.
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Speaker 2: For John Carlow, and typically in the past when he's
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Speaker 2: had some of these lower body injuries, whether it's a
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Speaker 2: hamstring or a calf or whatever it may be, that
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Speaker 2: usually has been around the final step, the final check
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Speaker 2: that he's needed to in the box to check off
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Speaker 2: before he's activated again.
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Speaker 3: That's typically, again one of.
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Speaker 2: The last things that he that they have him go
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Speaker 2: through medically is running the bases at full speed. So
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Speaker 2: the fact that he started that last week at least
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Speaker 2: as an indication to me that he that he's closer
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Speaker 2: to a return. What that timeline would be, I really
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Speaker 2: don't know, but it certainly is going to be before
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Speaker 2: Aaron Judge and after Tony melviner.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about a player on the field, shall we.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to show off the George Lombard junior shirt
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing today foul Territory shop dot com. Are they
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Speaker 1: talking enough about him in general? Like is he getting
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Speaker 1: the hype that he deserves or did they kind of
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Speaker 1: waste that over the last four years on Anthony Volpi?
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Speaker 1: And there's some PTSD there, like, hey, let's see how
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Speaker 1: this looks, because I mean, the bat looks great. One
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Speaker 1: twenty seven ops plus that's twenty seven percent better than
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Speaker 1: league average over eight hundred ops. And then I was
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Speaker 1: looking at the defensive run saved for him, and I
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Speaker 1: know some people like different defensive metric categories. He's already
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Speaker 1: towards the top with like world's less innings than the
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Speaker 1: other workstops around him, Like it's Taylor walls and then
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Speaker 1: really for active shortstops right now, Mason win and then
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Speaker 1: Lombard is next on the list, which is crazy to me.
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Speaker 3: You never see that, you know, Scott.
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Speaker 2: The thing of it is, when he was coming up
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Speaker 2: through the miners, I remember talking to scouts from other
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Speaker 2: organizations that have the Yankee and those guys were telling
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Speaker 2: me when he was in Double A that defensively he
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Speaker 2: was major League ready. And most of those scouts are
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Speaker 2: guys that over the years are generally hard on the
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Speaker 2: Yankee prospects. And that's those are the people that I
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Speaker 2: want to talk to to try to get an honest
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Speaker 2: appraisal really, because you know, one of the things in
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Speaker 2: my time covering the sport is the you know, you
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Speaker 2: talk to a given team and you'd think that they
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Speaker 2: have fifty future All Stars in their system, the way
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Speaker 2: that teams protect and overhype their own prospects, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: So that's a I guess that's a soapbox for another day.
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Speaker 2: But guys, scouts that can be hard on Yankee prospects
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Speaker 2: were saying, now, this guy, you plug him into short
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Speaker 2: now at the night teen year old, he'd handle his
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Speaker 2: business in the big wags he's ready. The bat has
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Speaker 2: always been something that's come a little bit slower for
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Speaker 2: him at every single level. And this really has been
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Speaker 2: the exception because since he came up, he has not
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Speaker 2: looked overwhelmed at all in the batter's box. And I
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Speaker 2: would say Scott that he got hype commensurate for the
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Speaker 2: type of prospect that he was because and it does
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Speaker 2: relate to Boldy in a way, because Yankee fans, you know,
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Speaker 2: have been so fed up with with Boltpy, but really
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Speaker 2: the last couple of years, they've been clamoring for you know, information, updates,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, anything George Lombard Junior related. And certainly George
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Speaker 2: helped that his performance the last two spring trainings when
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Speaker 2: he's been in big League camp with the you know,
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Speaker 2: the rest of the Yankee veterans and impressed all of
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Speaker 2: those with how he acted on and off the field
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Speaker 2: the last two seasons. But there's been a lot of
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Speaker 2: hype with with and I would say that in all
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Speaker 2: honesty the last if I'm measuring it, you know, the
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Speaker 2: last two or three years, I would say it's it's
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Speaker 2: pretty similar to what Bolting was getting when he was
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Speaker 2: coming up.
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Speaker 1: Okay, good to know. Yeah, he deserves it. It's worth
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Speaker 1: it right now early on. I know it's early, but
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Speaker 1: looking the part, Eric, thanks for joining us, appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Good to see you everyone follow him Eboland eleven on
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Speaker 1: Enjoy it out there.
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Speaker 3: Thanks Scott, Eric Kevin. Good to talk to you guys,
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Speaker 3: as always, have a good afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this team that's back back in the
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Speaker 1: wild Card mix. Tim Barblace joining us and you can
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Speaker 1: hear him on Birdland Territory talking Orioles, part of the
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Speaker 1: FT Network. Also, he's on one of five seven the
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Speaker 1: fan out there every day in Baltimore from two to
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Speaker 1: six Eastern, so he's dialed all right, Tim, tell us
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Speaker 1: what's going on here? How is things? How have things
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Speaker 1: turned around so quickly for Baltimore to be back in this?
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Speaker 1: Is this more to do with the al being kind
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Speaker 1: of meh or the Orioles playing well again?
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Speaker 6: Well, I think you got to give this team a
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Speaker 6: lot of credit in terms of the offense picking it up. Guys,
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Speaker 6: their last eight games they've scored fifty one runs. They're
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Speaker 6: prior seven games to that, they scored eleven runs, and
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Speaker 6: this offense was built to be the superpower of the team,
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Speaker 6: and it's been above average, but it hasn't come close
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Speaker 6: to meeting expectations. Where you look at this recent run,
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Speaker 6: Pete Alonso is just saying, get all my back, I'll
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Speaker 6: carry you.
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Speaker 7: He's just on a ridiculous run right now.
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Speaker 6: Gunner Henderson this month of August has been so much
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Speaker 6: better than what we had been seeing up until this point.
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Speaker 6: He's not expanding the z own, he's not chasing nearly
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Speaker 6: as much.
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Speaker 7: Tyler O'Neill's hitting.
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Speaker 6: Kobe Mayo is the best hitting right handed bat against
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Speaker 6: left handed pitching all year. Jackson Holliday is really coming
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Speaker 6: into his own. Colden Cowser in this recent stretch is
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Speaker 6: in nice form. You're seeing this offense start to gain
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Speaker 6: some momentum. Now are they able to sustain it? We
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Speaker 6: shall see. That's been the Orioles' biggest issue all year long.
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Speaker 6: You think that they're going to turn the corner and
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Speaker 6: then they lay an egg. It's one step forward, one
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Speaker 6: step back, two steps forward, two steps back.
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Speaker 7: But make no mistake about it.
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Speaker 6: Heading into that series against the Rays, that was the
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Speaker 6: best team in baseball. They had the best home record
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Speaker 6: forty one and eighteen, and the Orioles took the first
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Speaker 6: three games against them, one sixth straight against the Rays
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Speaker 6: prior to losing last night.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the timings a little bit suspicious. You trade Atlie Rushman.
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Speaker 3: And then they start to go off.
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Speaker 5: Is this kind of the collective group of young guys
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Speaker 5: that we've been talking about, this young core of the
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Speaker 5: Orioles understanding that this is their time or the band
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Speaker 5: might be broken up even more.
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Speaker 7: There's something to that.
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Speaker 6: I also think you need to give Pete Alonzo a
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Speaker 6: ton of credit because I remember the game initially following
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Speaker 6: the deadline on August fourth, Orioles won. Pete had a
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Speaker 6: monster game and he did a walk off interview on
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Speaker 6: Mass and he was basically saying, guys, like, it is
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Speaker 6: what it is. We need to rally, you know, it's
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Speaker 6: on honest the rest of the way. Let's have a
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Speaker 6: hell of a ride. And so far they've been able
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Speaker 6: to do that. But I think Jackson Holliday, you think
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Speaker 6: of him suffering that handmapone injury, going undergoing surgery. He
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Speaker 6: had three different rehab assignments and it took him a
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Speaker 6: while to get going. But over his last thirty two games,
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Speaker 6: he's hitting over three hundred.
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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's go time for him.
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Speaker 6: It's go time for Gunner Henderson, Colden Cowser, Kobe Mayo,
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Speaker 6: all of these guys, absolutely, But the player that has
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Speaker 6: been spearheading all of this has been Pete Alonso. He's
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Speaker 6: just been on a fantastic terror, especially of late.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you can just recycle that it's go time
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Speaker 4: for all those guys for the last few years, but
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Speaker 4: you talk about Pete the new addition this year, they
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Speaker 4: went out and paid for Pete to do exactly this,
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Speaker 4: to carry the team. Did you think you'd ever see
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Speaker 4: him carry the team from the leadoff spot.
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Speaker 7: I don't think Pete Alonzo saw that coming.
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Speaker 6: Pete even said prior to the game on Friday, I
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Speaker 6: believe it was he had never let off in his life,
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Speaker 6: going back to Little League, he had never let off.
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Speaker 7: And now he's saying, hey man, I'm the right hand
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Speaker 7: of Kyle Schwarber.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 6: Look, I think it got to a point, especially this
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Speaker 6: past weekend, guys, where the Orioles they were struggling going
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Speaker 6: into that series against the Rays. They had dropped five
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Speaker 6: of their last seven series, and I think they were
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Speaker 6: just throwing you know what against the wall and hoping
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Speaker 6: it stuck.
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Speaker 7: Because we saw so many guys lead off during that series.
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Speaker 6: You saw Pete, you saw Jackson Holiday, we saw Tyler
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Speaker 6: O'Neill last night. Like they're just trying to throw stuff
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Speaker 6: against the wall and hope that it sticks.
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Speaker 4: But is this an indication that maybe there's a little
18:51
Speaker 4: bit more of a front office push into this lineup?
18:55
Speaker 4: Because I agree with the front office that says put
18:58
Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarbin in a leadoff, like, we don't need a
19:00
Speaker 4: speed guy in you lead off one time a game.
19:03
Speaker 4: So is this a case where maybe the front office
19:06
Speaker 4: has been pushing for this or is it just like
19:09
Speaker 4: you said, like, you know what, nothing else has worked,
19:12
Speaker 4: so let's try something new.
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Speaker 7: I think it's probably a combination of the two.
19:18
Speaker 6: Look, this front office has a lot of influence over
19:21
Speaker 6: how the Orioles operate on a day to day basis.
19:24
Speaker 6: There's no secret around that. But I think we are
19:28
Speaker 6: going to start to see down the stretch guys. Jackson
19:31
Speaker 6: Holiday let off a ton for this club last year.
19:34
Speaker 6: I remember when interim manager Tony Mancelino said at one point, Hey,
19:38
Speaker 6: here's your leadoff guy for the next five years. If
19:41
Speaker 6: it was me, I'm rolling with Jackson in the leadoff
19:44
Speaker 6: spot right now.
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Speaker 7: He's just in rare form.
19:46
Speaker 6: He's hitting left handed pitching even better than right handed pitching.
19:52
Speaker 6: The whole platoon at second base is well beyond this
19:55
Speaker 6: club at this point, I would lean into Jackson holiday down.
19:58
Speaker 7: This stretch.
20:01
Speaker 5: Is help on the way. Philips Batista coming back.
20:05
Speaker 7: Can't believe it.
20:07
Speaker 6: Like when he suffered that shoulder injury last year, I
20:10
Speaker 6: just thought he was done, like it just coming off
20:13
Speaker 6: Tommy John and then to go through that. I will
20:16
Speaker 6: say Michaelias has been steadfast and saying that there is
20:19
Speaker 6: a very very real possibility that he's going to be
20:22
Speaker 6: back at some point this season in September. But I
20:25
Speaker 6: think my question is what does this look like? There
20:28
Speaker 6: are certainly reinforcements on the way. Samuel Bissio, he just
20:31
Speaker 6: had his first rehab outing on Sunday. I would expect
20:35
Speaker 6: Samuel Bisio to be back in this lineup at some
20:38
Speaker 6: point during this home stand.
20:41
Speaker 7: Ryan Helsley, we shall see.
20:43
Speaker 6: I mean it's kind of been starts and stops with
20:45
Speaker 6: him in terms of the elbow flaring up.
20:47
Speaker 7: Where again, what does that look like?
20:49
Speaker 6: Because the last time we saw him, it did not
20:51
Speaker 6: look good for Ryan Helsley. But I think the player
20:54
Speaker 6: that has Orioles fans maybe even most excited about guys,
20:59
Speaker 6: is Blaize Alexander. I would expect him to be back
21:02
Speaker 6: with this club at the end of the month beginning
21:04
Speaker 6: of September. And keep in mind, when Blaze went down
21:09
Speaker 6: that final game prior to the All Star Break, he.
21:12
Speaker 7: Was leading the majors in batting average.
21:15
Speaker 6: You know, from May one to mid July, he was
21:19
Speaker 6: leading the majors in batting average, and he was also
21:21
Speaker 6: giving him some slug his positional versatility, being able to
21:25
Speaker 6: play literally all over the field infield, outfield. I think
21:29
Speaker 6: the addition of Blaze will be big for this team
21:31
Speaker 6: down the stretch.
21:33
Speaker 4: Okay, so what we're looking at is the Orioles are
21:35
Speaker 4: currently I should yes, currently in a playoff spot. They're
21:40
Speaker 4: currently going to the playoffs. What can this team actually
21:44
Speaker 4: do in the playoffs with a below average defense, with
21:47
Speaker 4: which I think a few guys that shouldn't be playing
21:50
Speaker 4: in positions that they're playing in, but they are, with
21:52
Speaker 4: or without a guy like the mountain coming out of
21:55
Speaker 4: the bullpen Er Hellsley. What can they do if they
21:59
Speaker 4: actually get to the postseason.
22:04
Speaker 7: It's hard to say.
22:05
Speaker 6: I mean, it's hard to say with any confidence that
22:07
Speaker 6: this team is going to go on a run, just
22:09
Speaker 6: because if there's been anything consistent about this club, it's inconsistency.
22:14
Speaker 7: You know, you just took three of four against the Rays.
22:16
Speaker 6: Would it surprised me if Shane Boz gets shelled tonight
22:19
Speaker 6: and the Orioles get blown out?
22:21
Speaker 7: No, you know, it's not that long ago.
22:23
Speaker 6: They won a series in LA against the Dodgers and
22:26
Speaker 6: then lost the next series against the Angels, who are terrible.
22:30
Speaker 6: It's just hard to get a feel for this club
22:34
Speaker 6: and when you get to the postseason. Look, it's something
22:37
Speaker 6: that Orioles fans talk about constantly. This is a ball
22:40
Speaker 6: club that hasn't won a playoff game since twenty fourteen,
22:44
Speaker 6: when they swept the Tigers in the Alds. That was
22:48
Speaker 6: their last playoff win. So this is a team with
22:51
Speaker 6: not a ton of playoff pedigree. Who's going to get
22:54
Speaker 6: that ball in Game one? I would envision it would
22:57
Speaker 6: be Kyle Bradish, but he has all of one playoff
23:00
Speaker 6: start to his name.
23:02
Speaker 7: It's hard.
23:03
Speaker 6: I can't imagine this is a ball club that's going
23:05
Speaker 6: to make a deep run in October, just based off
23:08
Speaker 6: what we have seen through the first one hundred twenty
23:11
Speaker 6: plus games.
23:13
Speaker 5: Hey, as you know baseball, so much about timing the
23:16
Speaker 5: Orioles playing good baseball, going into a really tough place
23:19
Speaker 5: in the trut winning three out of four. What's your
23:22
Speaker 5: expectations with them going into New York? And I know
23:24
Speaker 5: New York hasn't isn't the same team without Aaron Judge
23:27
Speaker 5: and Cody Bellinger? Was kind of your expectation for this series?
23:31
Speaker 7: Well, it's kind of funny.
23:32
Speaker 6: It's sort of flipped in terms of how I view
23:35
Speaker 6: this team of late. Where the offense you were just
23:40
Speaker 6: trying to bring them to the party for so long.
23:43
Speaker 6: Where the strength of this team has been the starting
23:46
Speaker 6: pitching in the bullpen. They're top ten and starter era
23:49
Speaker 6: top ten and bullpen era since May twenty second.
23:53
Speaker 7: But this offense has just struggled.
23:55
Speaker 6: But as of late, guys, you're starting to see the
23:58
Speaker 6: pitching fault or some starting rotations kind of in foreign territory.
24:02
Speaker 6: Brandon Young has already vastly exceeded his career high in innings.
24:06
Speaker 6: Kyle Bradish this is his first full season off Tommy
24:10
Speaker 6: John he threw all of sixty some innings the prior
24:13
Speaker 6: to years combined, and Shane Boz is on pace for
24:16
Speaker 6: a career high in innings. So that's going to be
24:18
Speaker 6: a storyline to monitor moving forward. But in this immediacy,
24:23
Speaker 6: Shane Boz is on the mountain tonight. You know, he
24:25
Speaker 6: had a season low three inning outing his last time
24:28
Speaker 6: out in Minnesota. The Orioles typically do not give him
24:32
Speaker 6: run support over this season.
24:33
Speaker 7: But I have confidence in this offense right now.
24:36
Speaker 6: Carlos Rodon is getting activated off the IL. He's making
24:40
Speaker 6: his first start with the Yankees since the end of June.
24:43
Speaker 6: Maybe this is a good spot for this Orioles offense
24:46
Speaker 6: to keep it going.
24:47
Speaker 7: Max Free would just put on the IL.
24:48
Speaker 6: So I think Warren's starting tomorrow and then Garrett Cole
24:53
Speaker 6: on Thursday. So this and you can say this with
24:57
Speaker 6: every single series, but this Game one seems pretty pivotal.
25:00
Speaker 6: If they're able to take this game one, I love
25:03
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25:06
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Speaker 5: Tim.
26:10
Speaker 4: Do you know who got the last five outs of
26:13
Speaker 4: the game that they just lost?
26:16
Speaker 7: That was Brian Baker.
26:18
Speaker 4: And encourage the fans to Look who Brian Baker played
26:22
Speaker 4: for last season and was traded for. Do you know
26:26
Speaker 4: any other reason why he was traded away from a
26:28
Speaker 4: team that clearly needs bullpen pieces and is now leading
26:31
Speaker 4: the American League in safs.
26:35
Speaker 7: Look at it this way.
26:37
Speaker 6: They gave Tyler Wells over there, and Tyler Wells was
26:39
Speaker 6: one of the best relievers, and he was under club
26:41
Speaker 6: control through next year. So you're gonna have to face
26:45
Speaker 6: both of those guys the rest of this year in
26:47
Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven. Look, Brian Baker during his time in Baltimore,
26:51
Speaker 6: he was a power arm, but he was very, very inconsistent.
26:56
Speaker 7: I will say last season he.
26:58
Speaker 6: Was starting to turn thing, and who the heck could
27:02
Speaker 6: have seen this run out of Brian Baker.
27:03
Speaker 7: At this point, he hasn't blown a save since May.
27:06
Speaker 6: Look, I've always loved Brian Baker in terms of like
27:10
Speaker 6: his swagger and just you know, he doesn't give a
27:13
Speaker 6: you know what attitude, Like you saw after he completed
27:17
Speaker 6: that save, he grabbed his junk because the Orioles are
27:20
Speaker 6: doing that of late as this weird celebration. So I've
27:24
Speaker 6: always been a Brian Baker fan man, But look, Baker's
27:28
Speaker 6: got multiple more years of club control, Wells has next
27:32
Speaker 6: year of club control at least a Red Sox. We've
27:36
Speaker 6: seen multiple of these moves in the Al East.
27:41
Speaker 5: All right, just the one for me. We know how
27:44
Speaker 5: very average the American League is this year. What do
27:47
Speaker 5: you need to see from the Orioles in order to
27:50
Speaker 5: kind of push to separate themselves from the pack and
27:54
Speaker 5: get a wildcard spot.
27:57
Speaker 7: I think it's just more of what we've seen in
27:59
Speaker 7: this recent wretch.
28:00
Speaker 6: If this offense can continue to turn it around. Look,
28:05
Speaker 6: I don't think it's any coincidence that Pete Alonso's going
28:08
Speaker 6: really well. Gunner Henderson he's starting to have his best
28:11
Speaker 6: month of his season, and the Orioles are coming off
28:15
Speaker 6: their best series arguably of the year. So I think
28:18
Speaker 6: it's more consistency from this Orioles offense and then the
28:22
Speaker 6: starting rotation get back on track themselves, where this last
28:26
Speaker 6: time through it hasn't been nearly as good as it
28:29
Speaker 6: was leading up to this stretch. It's just when something's going,
28:34
Speaker 6: something's not that they haven't been able to put it
28:37
Speaker 6: all together over a prolonged period of time. If they
28:40
Speaker 6: can get the pitching to go along with this hitting,
28:43
Speaker 6: they're going to go on a run here.
28:45
Speaker 4: All right, let's say that happens. Does that save Michael
28:48
Speaker 4: Lias's job? Or has he already made his bed based
28:51
Speaker 4: on the moves he's made and put this team in
28:53
Speaker 4: bad positions?
28:56
Speaker 7: It's really tough. That's the million dollars yoh man.
29:00
Speaker 6: Look a line that I've been using a lot this
29:04
Speaker 6: year on Berdland territory on one of five to seven
29:08
Speaker 6: the fan. If this team does not make the playoffs,
29:12
Speaker 6: if you would have went to Michael Aias at his
29:14
Speaker 6: introductory press conference eight years ago and said, Mike, through
29:18
Speaker 6: the first eight years of your tenure as GM now
29:21
Speaker 6: President of Baseball Ops, you will not have won a
29:24
Speaker 6: playoff game. How would you categorize that? He would call
29:27
Speaker 6: it a failure? He would I mean, that's just the
29:30
Speaker 6: reality of the situation. And this isn't an Orioles thing.
29:33
Speaker 6: This isn't a baseball thing. This is a sports thing.
29:36
Speaker 6: If you go eight years as a GM and not
29:39
Speaker 6: win a playoff game, I'd love to know how often
29:43
Speaker 6: that's happened over the course of all sports, not just baseball. Now,
29:47
Speaker 6: if they end up making the playoffs and they make
29:50
Speaker 6: a little bit of noise, maybe that saves him.
29:52
Speaker 7: Maybe they missed the playoffs and he's safe.
29:55
Speaker 6: Anyways, they'll hide behind the lockouts, saying that they don't
29:58
Speaker 6: want to go through this during all of this uncertainty
30:01
Speaker 6: during the offseason. Look, David Rubinstein, the head owner of
30:06
Speaker 6: this team, has always been he always heeps Michael aias
30:10
Speaker 6: a lot of praise. But I don't know if you
30:12
Speaker 6: guys saw a recent interview that he did for a
30:15
Speaker 6: book that he has coming out about being an owner,
30:19
Speaker 6: he said that he's embarrassed by what has happened over
30:22
Speaker 6: these past couple of years. He mentioned that they infused
30:26
Speaker 6: a ton of money and right now they're closer to
30:29
Speaker 6: last place than a playoff, you know. So it's it.
30:33
Speaker 6: I could go either way with this, I really could.
30:37
Speaker 6: If they make the playoffs, my bet would be that
30:39
Speaker 6: he's safe.
30:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, right, And if they don't, he's out.
30:44
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, playing to that question about Baker, possibly right,
30:48
Speaker 1: it should be, though, like you're saying, right, eight years
30:50
Speaker 1: you don't make it. The owner's embarrassed. There's only one
30:53
Speaker 1: thing you can do in that case, And I'm with you.
30:55
Speaker 1: How embarrassing when you could be handing a four game
30:58
Speaker 1: sweep to the Rais and Brian Baker is dusting off
31:01
Speaker 1: five outs against you, and you're just giving your division rivals,
31:05
Speaker 1: multi year relievers to burn you as a fringe playoff team.
31:09
Speaker 1: It's very frustrating, Tim, We've talked about it over the
31:11
Speaker 1: years when I'm like, what is your plan here? Just
31:14
Speaker 1: collecting and hoarding prospects or actually trying to put together
31:17
Speaker 1: dub So anyway I can go all day, and Birdlin
31:20
Speaker 1: Territory does go all day. So Tim, thanks for joining us,
31:23
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31:27
Speaker 1: Appreciate you man.
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