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Mental Health the Holistic Way · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: I am your host, Kelly Meyerson, the original Mystic Nerd, as I call myself.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I host Candid Conversations for the Curious.
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  SPEAKER_01: If you have not caught this podcast before, I really encourage you to listen to some other episodes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if this is your first time, please leave me a comment and let me know what you think of the show.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today I am speaking with one of the most wonderful people I've met in the virtual space.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she actually isn't that far away from me, just a state away.
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  SPEAKER_01: Miss Laura Mazzada.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was saying to Laura at the at the top, you know, I usually like to read people's bios, but I really felt drawn today to just tell you what I adore about Laura.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Laura has her background in traditional therapy, addressing mental health issues, but she also does this amazing thing where she teaches people how to get into their Akashic records.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this is how I met her.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was immediately drawn to her because I was like, I have never heard of this before and I want to know everything about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Laura lives her life just fully lit up from within, whether she's with her family, she's teaching a masterclass, she's inviting people in.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna want to follow her at Emerge Healing and Wellness.
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  SPEAKER_01: So go over to Instagram, head over to Facebook and find her because her content is amazing and she's just drawing the most magnificent people to her.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, Laura, I'm just gonna welcome you and give you a minute to say hi to the folks at home.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm so grateful to be here and I loved your intro.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's perfect.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I like to coin the term Akashic therapist because it kind of mixes the two.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because although I'm not operating in the traditional therapy space anymore, it's still, I guess I guess the nature of the give and take with my clients feels therapeutic, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's very therapeutic, even though the guidance is not coming from me anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's coming from the Akash.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mix, but yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like taking all of your, you know, your history and of course lots of time spent in classrooms and in cultivating your therapeutic self, but then taking just past, present, future guidance to go into what you're doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, the the outcomes for people are more longer lasting and more impactful and more empowering.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think the traditional idea of you go to therapy and somebody is going to solve your problems for you, you know, whether or not that's actually what occurs.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's sort of the idea.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you need to go get help.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what you're teaching people to do is to be their own guide and tune into themselves to gain their own help.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I'm really excited about this topic.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we were joking, it's it's really like a six-hour conversation at minimum, but we're not gonna stay on that long.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're just gonna have to do like a to be continued at the end.
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  SPEAKER_01: So talking about mental health the holistic way, and I know this is this is the direction that you're taking right now, and it is so exciting, and we can go in so many directions with it, but I want you to start by telling us, you know, why?
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  SPEAKER_01: Give us like your from your heart, what is the why that mental health the holistic way is is what works for us today?
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because I, I mean, I've been a therapist for 20 years, and I have so many clients that are near and dear to me that have really busted their butts with all of the different modalities and types of programming and different kinds of practitioners within the mental health system.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's so upsetting to see how defeated they still feel.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, granted, these are people with chronic things that are coming up, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so, but still they implement these tools and then they're kind of hitting their head against the wall because they continue to work on themselves and make this commitment and setting aside this time and space and determination to be able to better themselves.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's just it's doing enough to get them through, and it's doing enough to keep them functioning, but it's not bringing them to a level of like phenomenal, vibrant vitality that they desire, you know, that we all desire, that we all have access to if we know the resources and we're able to access them.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so the thing is, yes, there are practitioners out there who are thinking outside of the box and guiding them in different directions.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's great.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the vast majority are really just kind of spitting out, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: They're just kind of spitting out the structure and the this is the way you do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that diagnostics in particular, just having diagnosis being thrown out there, is putting people in a box, you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: And the problem is then they say, okay, now this is what I have.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when you say that, it's kind of like this is part of my identity.
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  SPEAKER_02: And yes, there's a semblance of acceptance that comes with whatever's going on with us, and we need to get to that point to be able to embrace it as part of our story and move forward.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the thing is, what I've found, no matter what modality we're talking about, because I'm such a learner, like I'm such an academic, and I will learn every new modality that's ever been introduced, not only in the spiritual world, but in the mental health world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I explore all of it and then and was always in touch with all of the practitioners, nutritionists, schools, parents, et cetera, putting all our heads together.
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  SPEAKER_02: The fact is, it just doesn't go deep enough.
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  SPEAKER_02: It just doesn't go deeply enough.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when we are talking about healing anything, we have to look at all the layers.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that includes, even when we're talking about mental health, it includes the physical layer.
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  SPEAKER_02: It includes figuring out, okay, what's going on physiologically?
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  SPEAKER_02: What does your gut microbiome look like?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Because that's a huge precursor to a lot of mental health issues.
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  SPEAKER_02: And making sure that every single layer is touched on.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they teach us as therapists to do these comprehensive evaluations where we ask the quick questions in the beginning.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, where are you spiritually?
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  SPEAKER_02: Where are you culturally?
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  SPEAKER_02: Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
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  SPEAKER_02: We keep that as a context, but are we really diving into it?
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  SPEAKER_02: Are we really understanding that as an as the whole person?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that is such a huge piece.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you're right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, none of us are sort of existing in this vacuum of like just my mental health challenge at the moment.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's it's so much more dynamic than that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And everything is sort of interwoven.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, gut health is yes, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I personally had terrible gut health and all kinds of issues.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, not until I changed my diet did a lot of that change.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I expected to feel healthier, which I did, but I had no idea the amount of mental clarity that was available to me by doing that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea how hard I was working to be able to think, work, do things, have motivation and energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just assumed everybody was operating at that same level as me, working so hard just to like feel okay to work.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and when I had that mental clarity, I was like, oh my gosh, why isn't everybody living like this?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like it's so much easier.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's so funny you say that because excuse me, I um remember when I was pregnant for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I have three kids, but the first time I was pregnant, I had gestational diabetes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I was eating like a like better than I'd ever eaten in my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: And not only because of the gestational diabetes, but because I was pregnant.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I remember thinking to myself, why don't we take care of ourselves this way when we're not pregnant?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like we we make that a reason to be like, oh, I'm growing a human, so I'm gonna put this, this, I'm gonna be really conscious about what I put in my body and how I move my body and blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, that would be so helpful to have that mentality on the day-to-day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I I totally agree with you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, this is sort of where, like, I, you know, my background is in occupational therapy.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_01: This is kind of where I made that diversion into a more holistic spiritual realm, you know, one going through my own experience, but then realizing, oh my gosh, like when I addressed my sleep, my nutrition, like activity level, decreasing toxins in my environment.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like if we're not balancing all of these pieces, and then, you know, to put on that other layer of like your spiritual, your cultural, your community, and really getting into all of those areas that support us in being, you know, the best version of ourselves.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it really allows you to heighten your awareness of the subtleties that go on in your life.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that having that awareness of the subtle shifts that we can make to have a huge impact are really important, you know, like if you tweak it to add lemon water in the morning, that's it gonna be a huge shift for you, unless uh versus drinking coffee or drinking caffeinated tea in the morning.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm not telling you guys to do that, don't worry.
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  SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is, I don't want to upset anybody, however, but it's just those little tiny tweaks that can make a difference.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the way that we know how how little those how those little tweaks need to be shifted is when we are super in tune and super understand the context of our physical bodies, of our culture, of our community, of our ancestry, of all of it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because when we understand it, then we're like, oh, well, that just takes a little tweak.
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  SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, it feels like this big daunting, oh my gosh, I have to learn everything about everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, you just need to get so in tune with yourself that you can tell when the teeniest little shifts make you feel a certain way, and then you can readjust, and it doesn't have to be this huge undertaking.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I agree with you.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that's like probably one of my biggest pieces of advice for people when they're trying to really improve their self-care.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like first, where where is the low-hanging fruit?
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  SPEAKER_01: Where is the thing that's an easy shift for you?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's so funny because I'm really pulling that from working privately with clients and talking to families with children who are really struggling and they're struggling with the routines and knowing, like, if we're gonna build trust and a therapeutic relationship that we're gonna pick the low-hanging fruit.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna try and like if the worst thing for you is getting out the door in the morning and into the car, we're not gonna start there.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna start with giving you some ounce of success.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you're starting to learn one, like how I approach and I shift things, but learning it in a gentle way.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like we don't start learning algebra, we start learning addition, you know, picking something that's easy for us to uptake and shift.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that always worked for me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It always worked for my clients and it always built a relationship and a trust.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, could we then take that sort of concept and apply it to ourselves in like, okay, my intuition is telling me, like you said, let's take the lemon water, for example.
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  SPEAKER_01: Having some lemon water in the morning would feel like a better way to start my day and to commit to being good to myself than my usual cup of coffee.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the lemon water kind of shifts to, oh, that feels good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now I feel drawn towards having a smoothie versus pancakes.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, is that something we can kind of make the shift?
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's so funny that you say that because that's how I did it with cold showers.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh I remember so this this whole cold shower movement, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: It started, I don't even remember when it started.
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  SPEAKER_02: I probably came online to it late because I usually catch up on trends late.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I am not a trendy human.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, and I was like, dude, why would anybody do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: And of course, there's so many health benefits in all of this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So for me, I just gradually turned my shower colder and colder each day.
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  SPEAKER_02: I started with super hot, like I usually do, and then I went down a teeny bit, then a teeny bit, then a teeny bit.
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  SPEAKER_02: I got used to it, and then I was just like, oh, this is actually enjoy, this is very enjoyable, you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: But I needed to get there gradually because for me, I know that my nervous system would have been like the biggest twitchy peat if I had just like turned on the cold, and then I would have been such an angry elf.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the thing is, I can work through that anger.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I know how to manage that and know that that's coming up.
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  SPEAKER_02: But like, why?
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  SPEAKER_02: Why wouldn't I just be gentle and compassionate on myself for myself?
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's totally making me laugh.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Cause same thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, that's like good for me.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try that.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: But I could not get myself into a cold shower.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: However, I same as you, like I can enjoy my hot shower and then gradually turn down the temperature.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying I do it every day imperfectly, but but it does do a little something for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know what's interesting?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I used to be like in like shock and not liking going out in the wintertime when it's so cold and the cold kind of hits you, and you're like, ah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I've started to sort of look at it as like I step outside and I take like a really deep breath, and I'm like, like, just let it sort of be and not be uh on the scale of I enjoy this, I hate this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was out there getting wood.
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  SPEAKER_02: We heat our house with fire, with fireplaces.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I was out there just getting a bunch of wood the other day, and it was bitter, and the wind chill was even more bitter.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just kept saying to myself, our bodies naturally adjust to these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: Our bodies naturally adjust to these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just kept telling myself that because I was like, I don't want to create the story that this is miserable and awful because there's actually a huge piece of my body that really loves this, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I may not consciously understand what that is, but I'm like, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: Our bodies naturally adjust to this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm resilient, which is beautiful because that's right what we were talking about before we opened here was resilience and this whole concept of like holistic mental health bringing us to this space of resilience.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because as we learn to get to know ourselves better at all of these layers, and we get to really understand the nuances of how we operate, we get to prevent so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we get to make these little micro adjustments before we get sick, before we develop mental health symptoms, you know, and it's so nice to be able to honestly, it's just very loving to yourself to connect with yourself in that way, because then you have a gauge.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: And that I would say that was one of the biggest things that people brought to me for 20 years as a therapist was I don't have a gauge.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: I can't tell when I'm going downhill, I can't tell when I'm doing better.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, they they can't, they don't really have that opportunity to determine how I'm like they're kind of lost in the sauce.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, how am I moving forward?
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  SPEAKER_02: Where am I doing well?
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  SPEAKER_02: Where am I not?
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  SPEAKER_02: And so the the more you understand, like education is so motivational.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's so motivational for us.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's why I'm such a learner.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: I know you're such a learner.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, so it's so motivational.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when we learn about ourselves, like how much time have you taken to learn about every layer of yourself, that's gonna motivate you to do things differently and to be able to bounce back to whatever comes into your world?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: I that I think is is such a huge piece.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think we don't we don't really traditionally spend a lot of time getting to know ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like if we were to follow our intuition, do you remember being like in like middle school and they had all those different magazines, like teen bop and all kinds of stuff like that?
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  SPEAKER_01: And they always had like a little quiz in them, even like Mademoiselle, like all those different magazines, always had a quiz.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you love those quizzes?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: And did you I was obsessed with quizzes?
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  SPEAKER_01: I would still take them today.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how fun they are.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like taking that energy of like, what if you apply that energy to getting to know yourself better?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's sort of what I've done, and that's what got me excited about Akashic Records and human design and all these different methods by which you get a better understanding of your makeup on so many different levels.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: And when you see that sort of in this like big picture view, it's like, first of all, you can only appreciate yourself as a miracle because of all of these pieces that come into play.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: And it sort of gives you permission to be like, wait, so my drive and excitement about learning is just part of my energetic makeup.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't need to change that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can use that, and it gives you this like state of being that isn't about trying to like we talked about those boxes, like putting yourself into a specific box.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like there is no box, the box isn't there.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's spoiler alert, there isn't a box, right?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: And it's all and we've been conditioned.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: And what made me think about that specifically is how you talked about having these stories that we tell ourselves.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: And this is something like I'm a as a reader, huge fan of Brene Brown.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: She talks about the stories that we tell ourselves and kind of bringing those to light.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: They have a lot to do with conditioning, they have a lot to do with our experiences in life.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so what tell me more about like what is your understanding of the stories we tell ourselves, you know, particularly in a mental health sense.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: What do those do for us and how do we shift through them?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I mean, I think that the stories, like you said, are developed out of conditioning.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're also developed out of fear.
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  SPEAKER_02: And some of that fear is conditioning for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I would say most of the fear is is more related to just how society works too, and like expectations that are placed on us in terms of who we're supposed to become and and all that lovely stuff.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: But we develop these stories in our heads, even around diagnosis, even around our symptoms.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I tell people who have had a history of depression, just because you wake up sad one day doesn't mean, oh, here we go again.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because that's what happens in our heads, right?
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: And like, you know, me and being, you know, recovering from chronic illness as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like I can have a physical symptom come up and be like, oh, this is the beginning of the end.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna suck for the next three weeks.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like it doesn't have to be that way.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: And we need to be really conscious of how our minds are reactive to certain things.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: And we can really latch on to things.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: We're we're human beings, we attach, right?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: We get very attached, we get attached to our technology, we get attached to our children, which is great, you would think, right?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, but not with not when we are negating their sovereignty in any way, right?
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: Realizing that they don't belong to us, they really belong to the universe.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they are, you know, growing in their own way and expanding in their own way.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so attachment is a big issue.
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  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as somebody slaps a diagnosis on us, we attach to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Even if we don't say, oh, this is part of my identity, we attach to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I have OCD.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because there's a part of us that's saying, Oh, I feel relieved because now I know what it is, right?
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right now I know what it is.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: Now I know, which means what?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: Why do we feel relieved?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because then we can abdicate responsibility, because then we feel understood.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: Well, guess what?
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: There's a much deeper way to understand yourself.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like, all right, I uh ask people to open their awareness to creating your story and being able to say, okay, if you want to get attached to stories, go for it.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: But let's attach to the story that's accurate.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: Let's let's look back at where did your ancestors come from and what were they doing and navigating?
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because scientific research has shown across the board several, several times over, that things get passed down to us over three generations, minimum.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: Minimum.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of research is starting to extend into the seven generation category, which is beautiful because I know that's accurate as an intuitive, and you know that's accurate.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_02: But a lot of people are waiting for that scientific evidence to prove it.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: But it's true, you know, like babies who were born of people who had been in the Holocaust three generations previous were exhibiting behaviors and autonomic responses that were completely parallel to their ancestors.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_02: And these babies had no idea what was going on.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: So it gets passed down to us.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: And we need to understand that those stories are locked a lot of times within us.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like, all right, let me unlock them.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: Let me go back and just understand the context so that I don't feel like I'm just here by myself in this world, you know, stuck in a story that's been created for me.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because it's just like our parents say to us, like, oh, you're such a cutie, but you're a little too much.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: You need to kind of, you need to come back.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Tone it down.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, those kinds of things.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: And they're not doing it because they want to harm us or upset us.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they love us very much.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: They're also trying to fit into society to make people happy because you better act well at school, or else you're going to go to the principal's office and then you're going to get your ass handed to you, and then they're going to call me, you know?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so it becomes this, you know, it becomes your story when it was really your parents' story.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's really just taking that moment to kind of close your eyes, take a deep breath, take away any kind of obstacles or other people in your life or influences or money or anything that you feel is in your way from creating what you desire to create, and be like, what lights me up?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: What excites me?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: What do I want to create?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because that off very often gives us a huge in to our story.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Because then we say, Oh, this is my vision without anybody around.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: Holy crap, how do I follow this backwards now into who I am right now and how I'm operating?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because then that tells you these are the steps I need to create my new story.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_02: Did that even answer your question?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so much so.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, it really answered the question.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I, and I think it's also, you know, for for the people that are tuning into this, and maybe some of this information is is new to them and this idea, you know, that we can we can dial back, like you said, and get down to the core of who we are without conditioning and expectations and our ancestral paths and really find ourselves, you know, and I I know I've been on that journey personally, and when you get to that place, and no, my by no means have I figured it all out.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: I would never, you know, say that and misrepresent that, but you know, when you get to that place where you where you're starting to move from your own intuition, your own inner and higher selves, and feel the freedom and ease of that, the the possibility really opens up.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, some people would say that's that you start playing in the quantum field, you start playing outside of space and time, which I know a lot of people are going to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, where did you just take it?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it kind of goes back to that idea of there isn't a box, it's there the constructs are there because our concrete minds can put themselves around it, but we're talking about operating from you know this inner knowing and that isn't about boxes and conditioning.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, I think I think it's exciting.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it's and although it sounds very big and complex, it's actually very simple.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: It is, it's it's literally kind of combining what you and I just said.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's you know, when I was saying kind of close your eyes and let everything fall away, it's really about spending time with yourself in stillness, and that is so daunting to so many people.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I gotta be honest, sometimes still daunting for me.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: There are days, there are days when I sit down and my mind is still a happy little puppy jumping around.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I am the queen of the quantum field and the queen of sitting in stillness and meditation.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: I am still human.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, there are days where I'm sitting in meditation and I'm like, dude, this is not working today.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's not working today.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so, but what's so cool is I have access to all these other modalities to be able to access the same, you know, just in a different way.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: But but it starts with that.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I started with just meditating on a candle flame.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason that I liked that is because not sitting on a candle flame, staring at it, let's be clear.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, I liked it because it moved, you know, it moved and it was warm, and I was able to kind of bring so many of my senses together because that's one of the ways that we can ground ourselves the best, is by bringing in more sense, the more senses, the better.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, while I was meditating, I would just gaze at a candle flame for 30 seconds and then I would do it for a minute, and then I would do it for two minutes.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just taking that intentional time to cultivate relationship with that inner version of yourself, that higher version of yourself, because we don't spend enough time doing that.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: And listen, when we are cultivating relationships, we think, oh, I'm taking really good care of myself because I'm doing this, this, and that.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was taking phenomenal care of myself.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: I really was, but it wasn't as deep as my soul desired.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't connecting as deeply as I desired.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the thing.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you don't want to think, oh, I'm doing something wrong, and that's why I'm in this state of mental health, or that's why I'm in this state of physical health.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: You're not doing anything wrong.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: You're being called to dive deeper into who you are, get a deeper understanding of that.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: And when we set aside time and space, we're telling ourselves, you're so important to me.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: You matter so deeply to me.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: You are my top priority.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: And we're giving our higher selves and that inner part of us a chance to speak, a chance to talk to us so we can create this back and forth and this conversation.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just, okay, I'm gonna do this for you and check it off the list.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, have you asked, have you asked your inner self like how that feels and whether it desires to go deeper?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, like it is a relationship.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_02: Just like we cultivate relationship with a new person and a new human, and we need to get to know them and how to communicate and what they're like and what their quirks are about, and it takes some time to have things become smooth.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: We do the same things with ourselves.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: So when you offer yourself that patience, it's a win.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yay.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh my gosh, yes.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the stillness is a huge piece.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, one of my favorite things to guide people with is their sleep.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, what I often find with people is, you know, my busy brains who can't fall asleep because they lay down and their mind is going a mile a minute, whether they're creative types, whether it's anxiety, you know, whatever it is, they are not often giving themselves enough stillness.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so approaching sleep holistically, giving yourself stillness at the beginning of the day, at the end of the day, you know, cultivating that relationship, like you say, which I think is such a beautiful way of talking about it.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: How much time have we been taught to invest in our relationship with ourselves?
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: We definitely have been taught to invest in relationships with others.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: You got to have some best friends and romantic relationships, forget it.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's sort of like I know I did that whole, you know, on the path of the conditioning of, you know, do a good job in school so you can get into a good college, so you can have a good career, and you can meet the person of your dreams, and you can have 2.5 children.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I did end checked the boxes as expected because I'm a very good people pleaser historically, and found myself in a marriage in my 20s that was not helping my mental health, and you know, with someone who wasn't available for himself, let alone for me, and had to, you know, go through the experience of divorce, which, you know, was actually a beautiful journey for me personally, because I had divine intervention that was like, this is gonna be a beautiful journey for you.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, I'm listening to this.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: Everything else has been crap.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not gonna decide.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like every other like sense of conditioning what I was supposed to do didn't feel right, but this feels true for me.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, all of that to say, you know, beginning with that experience of stillness, you know, and so just to recap a little bit, we've kind of told you the things that you're doing are not these, you know, huge up-level and upheave everything going on.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's the lemon water, it's sitting in stillness, you know, like you said, staring at a candle flame.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: I came into it with guided meditation because that felt a little bit easier for me to listen.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I agree with you, bringing in all the senses and making it such a rich and delightful experience.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: And as you were saying, like cultivating that relationship with yourself.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, wow, that's sort of like taking myself on a little lovely date, you know?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, have it putting like essential oils on my body and putting on music that I enjoy and having a hot cup of coffee and sitting on my little meditation cushion, like setting this whole scene and experience that feels so yummy that one, I want to do it again.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: And two, like it really honored how much I was growing in love of myself first, you know.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I and I love that so much.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: And I have to say it's it's so good that you that you brought up the five senses again, too, because I think that again, it can feel really daunting for people to do that without feeling safe.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the best ways that we can feel safe and ground ourselves is in our physical bodies.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, our physical bodies give us that gift of of being able to ground and so using your senses to do that because sometimes it's not just, oh, if I sit with myself in stillness, like what's gonna come up?
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: Am I gonna like get so pissed off?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: Am I gonna get anxious?
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: Am I gonna get this or that?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: You might, you might, and that's all information and it and to know that it's safe to be able to move through that.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: And if you need to have somebody nearby to help kind of comfort you through that as things come forward for sure.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: But there's also, like you said, the creatives who have all this stuff coming in.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes it can feel daunting because it's like, whoa, these ideas are big.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: Now I now I need that's me too.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's so me.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes I'll be like, oh, I know that they want to bring this forward right now, and my human is not really up for integrating that.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so sometimes I'll be like, I'm gonna just kick the can down the road in another week, you know, and that, but that's so not good for us, but that's how we learn.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, see, if I had only sat and listened, you know?
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and exactly.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, it's really beautiful time.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I love that you're able to say that even with going through your through your divorce, that it was really a beautiful process for you because that's how I feel about sepsis.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: I had sepsis six years ago, and you know, I've had quite the journey back, and it is the best thing that ever happened to me.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy that something that almost killed me is the best thing that ever happened to me because I was in a box.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: I was in the mental health box, I was in the box of the system, and it was semi-working to a degree, but I wasn't aware of how much better it could work.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't aware of how much deeper it could go.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: And when I opened my world to this, and I've always been a spiritual person, but not to this level of depth.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I opened that up, I was just like, wow, and I saw the shifts in myself and in my clients and in my loved ones.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I can't, it is irresponsible for me to keep my mouth shut and not share this with the world because it's so efficient, it's so effective, it goes right to the core.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what really got me on the train of, all right, I gotta start.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: And it was scary, very, very scary to shift from traditional mental health.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: But I was like, you know what?
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's I I kept getting the tug, you know, and the results, the results just speak for themselves.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: And right that's what I want people to understand.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I have people who have come to me with crippling OCD, with psychosis, etc., have been able to completely reverse it through meditation and tapping alone.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's unbelievable, unbelievable.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: And they say, and that's one of the words they say is I'm just so much more resilient.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: Things happen and it just I bounce back quicker, it doesn't last as long, it's less intense, you know, and they can see that progress and the results speak for themselves, even if they think that they're weirdos when they're sitting there tapping their face, right?
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: But it works.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: I think, and you know what also came up for me when you were saying all of that, you know, this idea of resilience, and you know, for you going through your journey with sepsis, for me going through my journey with a divorce.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, when you've sort of hit these rock bottom places and come back up again, you you lose some of this sense of fear of these situations that seem impossible and painful, and ones that you know people try to avoid, and more like, well, I've been through this kind of hell and I've come out on the other side better.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: And like you said, it became a blessing and something that you have turned into working for you versus you know, something that set you back.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, going through a time like we all have in the past couple of years, you know, those of us who have been through these situations, look at not only I can come through this, but look at the possibilities.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Sort of give yourself the freedom.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that is what has happened for me.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm much more of a curious person than this is what it is.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, ooh, you know, like you said before, like you start to feel a little symptom.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: And rather than being like, oh my God, this is the beginning of the end, you know, it's like, oh, that's really interesting.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sort of curious about that.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: And what I've sort of learned about myself is that, you know, I'm an open person, I'm an empath.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: I take in a lot of energies from other people.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: So sometimes the physical symptoms I'm experiencing are not mine.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm tuning into someone else.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm like, hmm, all right.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: So is this mine?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, often I'm asking, is this mine?
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Where is this coming from?
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: Or am I doing something that, you know, like, have I been on my phone all day and been in this posture?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so this tension I'm experiencing, I'm not getting sick, there's nothing wrong with me.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_01: I've just haven't been in the best posture today.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe I need to move my body in a different way.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so getting curious and exploring versus, oh my God, this is it.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: And like that box we put, okay, I have OCD.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm done.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: And and I love that you brought up curiosity.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's one of my favorite things to teach my clients from the get-go, right?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: Right at the beginning, which is like, yes, approach it with curiosity instead of you know, doom and gloom and creating those stories in your brain.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that when we do that, we automatically open our minds.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because you talk about, yeah, consider the possibilities.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: And for me, I was considering possibilities.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_02: I was considering all the possibilities within my awareness.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so I needed to expand my awareness to realize that there's a hell of a lot more possibilities out there than I had any idea even existed.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: Because if I sit down and try to entertain possibilities, I've always been a very open-minded person.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna get a lot of possibilities, but they're still limited because my awareness was limited.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's like the more that I can open that up, the more that I can take that kind of bird's eye view or that divine perspective, the more I'm like, literally anything can unfold.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: Literally anything is a possibility within the field.
• 40:32
  unknown: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: And again, that can feel like, oh, that's big, you know, like that feels too big for me.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, again, we what we're doing, something what we call is co-creating with the universe, right?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: Where it's like you don't have to just take every possibility and dip your toe into it.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_02: See what feels good, you know, see what feels good and just start start with that.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: Start dipping your toe into that and play with possibility because being playful with possibility is one of the best energies to bring forward because then it's like, oh, it's like an experiment, just like you said, you love to experiment, you know, like it's like an experiment.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see what happens.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't mean that if it doesn't work out, you're a failure.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_02: It just means, oh, cool.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, now I have data on that.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: Now I have data on that, and I can jump to my next experiment.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: There's so much in there.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: You just packed a big punch there in terms of like what people can actually do.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I think that's that's part of what can be really frustrating for people that they're like, okay, I I get all this, but what the heck do I actually do?
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so there's a couple of things I want to highlight in there that you shared.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: So one of them was figuring out what lights you up.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: So understanding what brings you joy.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a great thing to journal on when you're sitting in stillness.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what lights me up?
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: And just kind of like, you know, start mind-dumping.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: What are all the things that light you up?
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: We all have things that light us up and they're different for each of us.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that other piece of play, I think we don't play enough.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: And we, and you know, no one understands this better than a parent who has a young one.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: And our little ones are so good at play, like they're so good at experimenting.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and my my son loves to sit down with me and and put a piece of paper and and a pencil in front of me.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, What are you gonna draw?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Oh, that's so much pressure.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't know, you know, where they want to like play dolls and they want you to like explore and we forget as we get older how to play.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_01: But play is such a good way to figure out what lights you up and to sort of release a lot of these things.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that is such a a great place to start.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the other thing that you said is that just because you go in a particular direction doesn't mean you have to stay in that direction.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: You can experiment and you can try things and you can release them if they're not working for you.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I I think those three little pieces, and and I want to just also highlight the fact that not in one moment have we said, and make sure you spend this amount of money on it.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: These are literally things you can do as a human in whatever place you're in.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because the other thing that often comes up for me is, you know, we talk about toxic positivity.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you talked a little bit earlier about the experience of feeling safe.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes that feeling of safe is a matter of things that are in our mind and how we're processing things, but there are actually people who are experiencing a lack of safety, a laugh lack of security.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and we never want to exclude people because of those kinds of experiences in their lives.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: So um that kind of came up for me.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's important to address that because I think it can be isolating for people who are actually experiencing a lack of like a true lack of safety or or are going through truly horrific things right now.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: A hundred percent.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I always qualify that too.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like I made a post the other day about relationships, you know, and it was like, listen, this this does not apply for people who are in a domestic violence situation and who really need guidance to be able to come out of that because that's something that, you know, the safety has to be secured first.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: And so we're talking about within your physical body for sure.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: And that is assuming that your environment is safe, right?
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so, yes, it's securing, you're not gonna be able to play in the realm of infinite possibilities if you're not safe.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: Because you're like, where does your energy have to go?
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna feel very chaotic about, well, if I go here, then what's gonna happen?
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, you don't want to open up that vulnerability and leave yourself at, you know, in an unsafe space, really.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's being able to really secure that in inhuman form.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: So that could be getting help from a therapist or somebody in the community.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: It could be just relying on a really reliable, supportive, loving, compassionate family member, loved one, friend, etc., for sure.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, thank you.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think uh I think that's such an important distinction.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's that's really helpful for people.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, I I definitely think we're we're getting to the point where we're being a little bit more aware of that piece of things and of you know the imbalances that exist in our culture and society.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think the more we do to meet people where they are, I think um we're we're making headway because this is let's be honest, this is not about just having, you know, people who have means and can explore all of these things, do better with themselves, and everyone else has sort of left, you know.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: Without um yeah, yeah, and that's exactly why I love the holistic mental health perspective because we are each person is unique.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_02: I always say we're all snowflakes, right?
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: And so no, not everybody with OCD follows the same protocol.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, not everybody with psychosis follows the same protocol.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: No way.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: Each person is individual, and you need to not only view yourself that way, but connect with someone if you're looking for a practitioner or something who's able to meet with you and get a perspective on what you are in particular meant to be doing in this lifetime?
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_02: What are you meant to be?
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: What gifts are you meant to be sharing with the world?
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: How are you meant to navigate the X, Y, and Z of this life experience in your own unique way and being able to view that uniqueness as a superpower rather than something that's deficient within you?
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because I always say it takes a village.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_02: And when we sit here in this village, and and Joe Schmo's really, really good at this, and I'm really good at this, and I suck at that and hate it, and vice versa, he sucks at this and hates it.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: Guess what?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: There's nothing wrong with either of us.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: We're actually serving each other and the village because we're doing our expert thing, right?
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_02: And it's all getting done because everybody's in their expert station, and it doesn't matter if I suck at that because I'm doing my expert thing.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's the mentality that comes from that.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_02: It really brings us together when we approach the individual in this way.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, I could talk about this all day.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_02: Don't even get me started.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: I yeah, no, I feel you.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I it's it's part of my it's part of my mission and my purpose to to just highlight people like yourself who are living in their authentic selves.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if if you listen to the last podcast episode um with Amber Dobkins, she talks about radiant integrity, just being so truly within yourself and living in your biggest and brightest self in the world.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I for me, the vision that I have is that this is this becomes how we exist in the world, that we we each have this strong understanding and capacity of who we are in the world and and what really lights us up.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_01: And we're guided by that.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: And so, like you said, we don't all need to be doing the same thing.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: We don't need to look the same, we don't need to follow the same path.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_01: We can exist in this very unique way.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, it's being a mystic nerd and being like, this is who I am, this is me in my most true and authentic nature and doing what lights me up the most.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it is only going to serve the world.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_01: And and it sounds like big and hokey, and that's okay for people to feel that way, but that is my truth.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: And the more we each can have the courage to live in our truth, to expose ourselves, and I know you are so good, and and it's not an act.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: Laura is who she is, you know, she's funny.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you guys would be hysterical to see how she filled, I have my forms for people coming on the show, swipe all their information, and she's just funny, and I love that, and I welcome that.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think having that permission and living in that way, we are paving the way for people to begin to do that in a more ease and easeful and happy way.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why I call myself the confidence queen, because it's really all about stepping into like confidently owning.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: If you know, if you feel like you're feeling crazy that day, good, go be crazy, go act crazy, like go have fun, light it up.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's that play, you know, it's that it's it's funny because you talked about human design, like that playful piece, that bringing forward, you know, that inner child version of you is so ingrained in my human design for how I'm meant to serve the world.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like not necessarily the content I'm bringing forward, but how I do it.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm very playful and I love that because we don't want healing to be this, okay, I'm gonna cry and like be all pious.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, of course that's a piece of it, but it's like freaking boring, you know what I mean?
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like we don't want it to be boring, we want to like be playful with our curiosity, you know?
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, 100%.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna shift us just a little bit because, like you said, we we said at the top of this, this is uh maybe it's more than a six-hour conversation, it's more like a five-day masterclass.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_01: And and totally here for that.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to just give you a few minutes because you're doing such beautiful work and there are a great many opportunities for people to work with you.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I would love for you to just share some ways we can connect with you, some things you have coming up, um, so people can um join your world.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: So to connect with me, the best way is on Instagram at Emerge Healing and Wellness, and and is spelled out.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: So you can find me over on Instagram.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: I put out lots of content there.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_02: You can also join my free Facebook group called the Expansion Portal, and it's so fabulous.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm doing so many good things in there.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_02: You'll learn a ton.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: There's already so much content in there, too, just about healing and learning about yourself and really getting deeper with a lot of what we've talked about today.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_02: So you'll find that there.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: And in terms of what's coming up, um, I actually just shifted my Rise Akashic Immersion program.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: And this is really teaching people how to get to know yourself at every single layer.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_02: It incorporates all of those layers of your being in the space of the Akashic Records.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_02: So you learn how to navigate that, you learn how to expand your intuition.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm so excited because now there's so many different ways to interact with it.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: You can you can purchase it just digitally and do it on your own at your own pace.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: You can do it with coaching and support if you want to.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: You can get certified in the Akashic Records.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: There's so many different options.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I love that flexibility because it offers the people the opportunity to engage with it at whatever level that they feel ready.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's amazing.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's such a great way for people to feel like they have access to it in their particular learning style, the time they have to commit to it.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and everything you do, Laura, is with such integrity and honesty.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you are one of the most giving human beings.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: So you are going to want to join her group on Facebook.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: And like she said, there's so much content there already.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: And we talked about like the affordable access to all of these things.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the really truly wonderful teachers out there have so many ways to access what they have available.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so definitely be sure to join.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: Follow her on Instagram.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Her reels and TikToks are hysterical.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: So you definitely want to check those out because I I'm I'm here for it because goofiness is like part of my intrinsic nature.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: So when I see other people being goofy in the in the Facebook and Instagram space, I'm like, I'm so excited.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm like, there's all these polished, very, you know, well put together people.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's those of us who are like, it's not me, but I will be funny.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: And and somebody's going to laugh at what I have to say.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yesterday I made one where I was like doing the pigeon head and I'm like, that's awesome.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I don't know if I can do this.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh, I'm doing it.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's better if you can't really do it.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, it's like karaoke when somebody gets up and they really can't sing, and you're just like, you're applauding them because it's way more entertaining.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, a hundred percent.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Let's be let's be honest.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: If we're getting on there and we want to check out Instagram, we want to be entertained to some extent.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we're there.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for entertaining us, Laura.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: Always.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad you were here.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to come back.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: I I want us to deep dive a little bit more into building that resilience and maybe having a conversation when we're talking about our children and their mental health.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think that would be such a great conversation.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh again, I thank you for being a tremendous friend, for being just such a wonderful person in this world, in this space and time that we can learn and grow from you.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for joining us on the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, Candid Conversations for the Curious.
• 54:40
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• 54:44
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• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you'd like to know more about me, you can follow me on Instagram at being wellwithkelly or head over to beingwellwithkelly.com.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: I encourage you to be well and follow your curiosity.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: You never know where it may lead you.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: Bye now.