Latest / Normally / Normally Podcast: Rubio Rising? California’s Political Meltdown & America’s Anti-Semitism Crisis
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Yeah, we're back on normal. So normal it takes the women,
- 0:09Speaker 1: the news gets weird. I am Mary Kathy Ham and
- 0:11Speaker 1: I am here today Bethany, and welcome Bethany. Welcome the
- 0:16Speaker 1: other set half of Stolen Youth. Yes, she is with
- 0:22Speaker 1: she is.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Carol Marco was his co author on that very good book,
- 0:25Speaker 2: which is still pertinent, unfortunately for the country, but good
- 0:28Speaker 2: for the book. Check it out wherever you get good books.
- 0:32Speaker 2: How's it going, man, Thank god, thank god. I can't complain.
- 0:35Speaker 1: How are you? I'm all right.
- 0:37Speaker 2: You know, I made it through camping with the children,
- 0:39Speaker 2: and now we're we're making it through a week. You know,
- 0:43Speaker 2: you have homeschooling, so it's different. But May for the
- 0:47Speaker 2: enrolled kids is wild.
- 0:49Speaker 1: So I hear this and it's like May is my
- 0:52Speaker 1: relaxed month where I'm like, I don't know if we're
- 0:55Speaker 1: really doing school anymore. Let's just let's just stick to
- 0:58Speaker 1: the basics and go to the park.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Well.
- 1:00Speaker 2: I look forward to going to the park with you
- 1:03Speaker 2: and doing other things once we get through May.
- 1:05Speaker 1: And then in June, I know we're meeting up to
- 1:07Speaker 1: Uyes to have some fun.
- 1:08Speaker 2: So but until then, I'm hanging on a thread. I, uh.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly, it's all of this mental load that
- 1:18Speaker 1: school's put on you that convinces me I want to homeschool,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and I want to continue to homeschool because I don't.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I don't want to do all the things. I want
- 1:25Speaker 1: to do very few things. Actually, your lifestyle doesn't tell
- 1:30Speaker 1: me that about you. But I understand your point.
- 1:33Speaker 2: And when I did homeschool briefly and people like how
- 1:36Speaker 2: could you possibly do that, I can compare. And in fact, yes,
- 1:40Speaker 2: there is a lot put on you from the outside.
- 1:43Speaker 2: And teachers often don't grock that they have four kids
- 1:48Speaker 2: from one family yep, and like that. Giving four times
- 1:53Speaker 2: the assignments is going to be difficult. And I don't
- 1:56Speaker 2: mean assignments for my kids. They can do those, but
- 1:58Speaker 2: assignments for me.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Yes, I got stuff to do. Guys on Monday, Let's
- 2:03Speaker 1: do four silly hats. Yeah, that's something I want to
- 2:06Speaker 1: spend my Monday doing. One of my friends sent me so,
- 2:10Speaker 1: And it's not just the teachers who are putting the
- 2:11Speaker 1: mental load, it's also other parents. One of my friends
- 2:15Speaker 1: sent me a photo from her WhatsApp group for her
- 2:18Speaker 1: kids class, and she said, we've decided that our teacher
- 2:23Speaker 1: appreciation gift is a bouquet of paper flowers. This is
- 2:29Speaker 1: my flower, and here are instructions for each of your
- 2:31Speaker 1: children to create their own paper flower. And so, in
- 2:35Speaker 1: addition to silly hat day, dress up like your favorite
- 2:39Speaker 1: character of literature on Tuesday, all of those things that
- 2:42Speaker 1: the teacher is putting on them, they are also now
- 2:46Speaker 1: creating craft projects for teacher appreciation. And I think parents
- 2:53Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more ballsy and chime
- 2:55Speaker 1: in on those chats and say, you know what I
- 2:57Speaker 1: think that she would like better than a bouquet of
- 2:58Speaker 1: paper flowers a fifty dollars gift card to Starbucks.
- 3:02Speaker 2: My approach is, let me, let me venmo you the
- 3:05Speaker 2: value of a paper flower even plus, and she will
- 3:10Speaker 2: be happier.
- 3:11Speaker 1: My love language is putting all of that stuff together
- 3:15Speaker 1: for teachers. I'm like everyone venmo me. I'm totally gonna
- 3:19Speaker 1: get audited because people van mo me for the randommest
- 3:21Speaker 1: things like everyone venmo me. And then I will buy
- 3:24Speaker 1: her a five hundred dollars Amazon gift card. Done. I'm in.
- 3:29Speaker 1: I'm in. I don't have the capability to make the
- 3:32Speaker 1: paper flower.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Okay, shall we talk about someone who does have a
- 3:36Speaker 2: lot of capabilities, and that is Secretary of State and
- 3:40Speaker 2: many other things. Marco Rubio, my my king. He took
- 3:45Speaker 2: to the took to the podium in the press room,
- 3:48Speaker 2: in the press briefing room this week to uh to
- 3:52Speaker 2: do the thing. You know, Carolyn Loveth is out, she's
- 3:55Speaker 2: having a baby, excited for her, and he's taking over
- 3:58Speaker 2: on this particular day. And he sort of gave like
- 4:01Speaker 2: a I don't know, a masterclass in answering questions. He's
- 4:05Speaker 2: just quick on his feet. He's good, he's informed, he's likable,
- 4:11Speaker 2: he's answering in native equivalent Spanish. At times it's a
- 4:17Speaker 2: it's a bit of a tour de force.
- 4:18Speaker 1: My favorite part of that was when he started quoting
- 4:21Speaker 1: song lyrics. He quoted some rap songs. Insane in the
- 4:28Speaker 1: Membrane was one. And I think what happened was before
- 4:32Speaker 1: he stepped to the podium, they said, Okay, how many
- 4:36Speaker 1: song lyrics like obscure random song lyrics can you throw in?
- 4:40Speaker 1: And we will give you fifty bucks for every single
- 4:43Speaker 1: one you pull off? And he did it several times.
- 4:45Speaker 1: He was just peppering in. That was one hundred percent.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I would bet my own money on it that that
- 4:50Speaker 1: was happening behind the scenes. I agree with you.
- 4:53Speaker 2: The other one was check yourself before you wreck yourself,
- 4:55Speaker 2: which is what he suggested Iran do. Look, he was
- 4:59Speaker 2: just a He just debuted as a DJ at a
- 5:02Speaker 2: family wedding this weekend.
- 5:03Speaker 1: There's a little bit of tape of that.
- 5:05Speaker 2: He is a guy again. Now are these millennial coded
- 5:09Speaker 2: rap references?
- 5:10Speaker 1: Yes, yes they are.
- 5:12Speaker 2: And I'm proud of him for that. He doesn't need
- 5:14Speaker 2: to be a gen Z guy. He's happy to do
- 5:18Speaker 2: this and so I enjoyed that very much. He's also
- 5:22Speaker 2: just like someone made the point. I believe it was
- 5:26Speaker 2: a woman who used to do PR for Substack, and
- 5:29Speaker 2: she has pretty insightful sort of PR takes and modern
- 5:32Speaker 2: media takes, and she said, you know, as Ai flattens
- 5:37Speaker 2: the writing space where everyone can kind of plus up
- 5:41Speaker 2: their writing to basically find someone who can speak extemporaneously,
- 5:47Speaker 2: will have a lot more cachet in the future because
- 5:50Speaker 2: you know it's coming from that person. I'm going to
- 5:52Speaker 2: play a little bit of him being extemporaneous about what
- 5:56Speaker 2: he thinks about about America in the briefing room.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Here he is, I hope for America and it's the
- 6:01Speaker 1: same and deal with that.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:04Speaker 5: Look, I mean my hope for America is what it's
- 6:05Speaker 5: always been. I think it's the hope I hope we
- 6:07Speaker 5: all share. We want it to continue to be the
- 6:09Speaker 5: place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. Where you're
- 6:12Speaker 5: not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the
- 6:14Speaker 5: color of your skin, by your ethnicity. But frankly, it's
- 6:17Speaker 5: a place where you are able to overcome challenges and
- 6:19Speaker 5: achieve your full potential. I think that should be the
- 6:21Speaker 5: goal of every country in the world, frankly, but I
- 6:23Speaker 5: think in the US we're not perfect. Our history is
- 6:25Speaker 5: not one of perfection, but it's still better than anybody
- 6:28Speaker 5: else's history, and ours is a story of perpetual improvement.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Each generation has left the next generation of Americans freer,
- 6:34Speaker 5: more prosperous, safer, and that is our goal as well.
- 6:37Speaker 5: But it is a unique and exceptional country, and as
- 6:39Speaker 5: we come upon this two hundred and fifty year anniversary,
- 6:42Speaker 5: I think we have a lot to learn and be
- 6:43Speaker 5: proud of in our history. It is one of perpetual
- 6:45Speaker 5: and continuous improvement, where each generation has done its part
- 6:49Speaker 5: to bring us closer to fulfilling the vision that the
- 6:51Speaker 5: founders of this country had upon its founding.
- 6:53Speaker 2: So I think he's thought about that a couple of
- 6:55Speaker 2: times in the past, the future of America and what
- 6:59Speaker 2: makes it you need.
- 7:00Speaker 1: His speech in Munich, I was like, I don't know,
- 7:03Speaker 1: three four months ago was so incredible that he even
- 7:07Speaker 1: got the Europeans degree with him. They were like, yeah,
- 7:09Speaker 1: he has a point. We are on the decline.
- 7:12Speaker 2: No, it's a look I never want to get to
- 7:15Speaker 2: in alle of a politician, But this is a guy
- 7:17Speaker 2: who's doing all his jobs well. And I like whenever
- 7:22Speaker 2: I see competence demonstrated a little bit of grace, a
- 7:26Speaker 2: little bit of humor, I feel that I should applaud that. Yeah,
- 7:32Speaker 2: because we don't see it that often anymore.
- 7:34Speaker 1: And when he's having fun, it's that's when you know
- 7:37Speaker 1: what things are going well for America. The day before
- 7:41Speaker 1: we went into Venezuela to take out Maduro, he was
- 7:45Speaker 1: at Mara a Lago, dancing at his at his seat.
- 7:48Speaker 1: And so when I see Marco Robio behaving like he
- 7:52Speaker 1: has the last few days, making jokes at the podium,
- 7:55Speaker 1: DJing at a wedding, I'm like, I think things are
- 7:58Speaker 1: going well, I think we're kicking some somewhere in the world,
- 8:01Speaker 1: and I'm here for it. As goes, Rubio socoes the nation.
- 8:06Speaker 4: You know.
- 8:07Speaker 2: This, of course has sparked discussion of whether he might
- 8:10Speaker 2: be a twenty twenty eight favorite.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Of course, the heir apparent would be JD. Vance.
- 8:17Speaker 2: But Trump has a lot of affection for Rubio, and
- 8:23Speaker 2: a lot of voters have affection for Rubio. The Atlantic
- 8:28Speaker 2: has a piece that Trump voters like Margot Rubio.
- 8:31Speaker 1: More and more. This is from some of Sarah Longwell's
- 8:34Speaker 1: focus groups, and yeah, they should. You should like him.
- 8:38Speaker 1: He's good. It's interesting watching what I think is the
- 8:42Speaker 1: horse race beginning to come up. Rick Rennell, who was
- 8:47Speaker 1: running the Kennedy Center, posted pictures of himself at a
- 8:50Speaker 1: festival and he was wearing Vance twenty twenty eight shirt,
- 8:53Speaker 1: which I think was an interesting signal. But reading these
- 8:57Speaker 1: tea leaves I think is really fun. Dan I can
- 9:00Speaker 1: never pousns his name. Yes, thank you. He has been
- 9:06Speaker 1: raw raw Rubio very hard.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I think it's clear that there's license from Trump to
- 9:14Speaker 2: like either of them. He picked Vance, but he has
- 9:17Speaker 2: found himself very close to Rubio. He keeps Rubio seemingly
- 9:22Speaker 2: at his elbow most of the time.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Every time he has an odd job, he throws it
- 9:27Speaker 1: towards Rubio.
- 9:28Speaker 2: So I think there is a permission structure, as they say,
- 9:31Speaker 2: to like Rubio a ton. Do I think that primary
- 9:34Speaker 2: voters might go that direction.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I don't know. I almost daren't wish.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I know, bethany, So, the only time I've ever voted
- 9:45Speaker 2: for a winner was President Trump in this last election.
- 9:48Speaker 2: I've always always fallen behind a loser. I don't My
- 9:52Speaker 2: track record isn't much better than Bill Crystal's, and so
- 9:56Speaker 2: I don't really want to root for anyone lest I
- 10:00Speaker 2: doom them. Yeah, I was a Rubio Gallon in twenty sixteen,
- 10:04Speaker 2: and you're right, maybe we should abstain from from secretly
- 10:08Speaker 2: routing or openly rooting thus lest we jinxed the situation.
- 10:13Speaker 2: I was a Rubio gall in twenty sixteen, and in fact,
- 10:16Speaker 2: I was at the debate where he famously kept repeating himself.
- 10:21Speaker 2: I was one of the commoderators for that debate, and
- 10:24Speaker 2: I was so thankful I hadn't asked the question, and
- 10:28Speaker 2: in the room, I.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Was like, oh dear, what's Oh dear, what's happening? Oh dear,
- 10:33Speaker 1: But he's.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Had many, many trials by fire since that time and
- 10:38Speaker 2: clearly knows what he's doing at the podium. I also
- 10:41Speaker 2: it's been interesting to watch. It's sort of a little
- 10:42Speaker 2: twenty sixteen flashback to watch him on the stage. And
- 10:47Speaker 2: then Obama's doing this big tour because he's opening his
- 10:51Speaker 2: horrendous looking presidential library in Chicago that is like blotting
- 10:56Speaker 2: out the sun and is like sort of a death star.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Are I guess of progressive activism is what's going to
- 11:02Speaker 2: be going on there?
- 11:03Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I And what I find most confusing about
- 11:07Speaker 1: what the Obamas have done, especially post presidency, is how
- 11:11Speaker 1: mad they seem. They always seem to have, especially Michelle
- 11:15Speaker 1: really seems to have a chip on her shoulder. She
- 11:17Speaker 1: wrote a whole book about her fashion and then went
- 11:20Speaker 1: on tour and complained that people kept wanting to talk
- 11:23Speaker 1: to her about fashion.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem like that's part of the gig,
- 11:28Speaker 2: particularly when you're highlighting it in a book.
- 11:32Speaker 1: That is yew. The promo of the book usually requires
- 11:35Speaker 1: talking about the book. It's like a key component. And
- 11:39Speaker 1: I know I'm not one to talk, but you should
- 11:42Speaker 1: be ready to go.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Yes, it's it is part of it. I think it has.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It's been interesting to me too. I think they might.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I get the sense that they're a little surprised how
- 11:54Speaker 2: overtaken by events their legacy has been.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they really wanted more attention, right, it doesn't
- 12:01Speaker 1: now They to some extent they exited and just like
- 12:04Speaker 1: had fun and did their thing, and I applaud that, like,
- 12:06Speaker 1: go have all your money and hang out in Mors's
- 12:09Speaker 1: vineyard and do the yachts with whoever you do them
- 12:12Speaker 1: with whatever.
- 12:13Speaker 2: I always said that Obama would be a stellar ex
- 12:15Speaker 2: president because he really just wanted to like lecture us
- 12:18Speaker 2: and travel around the world and be on yeats. So
- 12:21Speaker 2: he's doing that. But I think they thought their relevance
- 12:25Speaker 2: perhaps would extend for longer, and it turns out that
- 12:30Speaker 2: Trump takes up all the oxygen and that's not.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Really a possibility for them. Yeah, I mean, I think
- 12:35Speaker 1: also they thought that she was poised to like go
- 12:38Speaker 1: in the footsteps of Bill and Hillary and she would
- 12:41Speaker 1: take his baton, and she, you know, when they left office,
- 12:45Speaker 1: she was still super likable and super liked. I don't
- 12:48Speaker 1: think that's the case anymore. I don't know.
- 12:50Speaker 2: I also I also buy if you heard my theory
- 12:54Speaker 2: on this, I buy that she never wanted to be
- 12:57Speaker 2: running for office, and that My theory is that a
- 13:00Speaker 2: lot of the off putting stuff she says is just
- 13:02Speaker 2: a campaign to sabotage herself so that the Dems stop
- 13:05Speaker 2: coming to her asking her to run for things. Oh,
- 13:07Speaker 2: that's so funny because she says very off putting things. No,
- 13:11Speaker 2: I think that she is actually very off putting, but
- 13:13Speaker 2: she had a team around her that prevented her from
- 13:16Speaker 2: doing it in the White House, and she doesn't have
- 13:17Speaker 2: that anymore.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she wants to run for anything.
- 13:21Speaker 2: He, on the other hand, is happy to do the
- 13:23Speaker 2: spotlight this week, and apparently it causes issues between them
- 13:25Speaker 2: because she doesn't want him out there fighting drunk quite
- 13:28Speaker 2: as much as he is. That building is really something else,
- 13:31Speaker 2: like what a monument to I don't know, egotism, and
- 13:36Speaker 2: it's perfect intentional ugliness like it's I know it's modern,
- 13:41Speaker 2: but whoa goodness gracious, No, it's perfect for them. They
- 13:45Speaker 2: don't seem perfect for each other, though they seem very unhappy. Well,
- 13:49Speaker 2: she's she speaking of complaints. She has a lot about him.
- 13:53Speaker 2: She's often talking about that in public, yes, which I
- 13:57Speaker 2: don't think is a great look for them and actually
- 14:00Speaker 2: undercuts one of the things I don't like a ton
- 14:03Speaker 2: about Obama. But I thought, like this, he is a
- 14:05Speaker 2: family man. He's there raising his kids, he's married one
- 14:08Speaker 2: woman like this. This is a good thing.
- 14:11Speaker 1: And she takes shots at it every time she's out
- 14:14Speaker 1: and about.
- 14:15Speaker 2: So all right, well, I appreciate Rubio Rubio style greater
- 14:20Speaker 2: than Obama.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Michelle. Oh yeah, Barack and Michelle style.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Alrighty, we're gonna take a break on normally and we'll
- 14:26Speaker 2: be back in just one moment with some California news.
- 14:33Speaker 2: All right, we are back on normally with some news
- 14:35Speaker 2: out of California, where over and over again the Libs
- 14:39Speaker 2: have to pay the price for their policies, and in
- 14:42Speaker 2: this case, they have a jungle primary for governor to
- 14:46Speaker 2: replace Gavin Newsom. That means that everyone can run in
- 14:49Speaker 2: the same race. And the idea was when they made
- 14:51Speaker 2: this rule, that it would be two Democrats that end
- 14:53Speaker 2: up the top two finishers and then they go to
- 14:54Speaker 2: the general election. But what has happened is that the
- 14:57Speaker 2: Democrats have made a lot of people mad, and now
- 15:00Speaker 2: two Republicans sit close to the top of this race.
- 15:04Speaker 2: And those two Republicans are Chad Bianco, who's a sheriff
- 15:07Speaker 2: in California, and Steve Hilton, who's.
- 15:09Speaker 1: A former Fox host.
- 15:11Speaker 2: And so now the Democrats are sort of like, oh no,
- 15:15Speaker 2: it could end up being two Republicans who.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Get out of this jungle primary.
- 15:18Speaker 2: And that is why Swollwell had to get knocked off
- 15:22Speaker 2: because he was at the top of the list of Democrats.
- 15:26Speaker 2: And he has left the race, leaving behind Katie Porter,
- 15:30Speaker 2: famously abusive of her staff to husband, and her husband
- 15:34Speaker 2: Tom Steyer, famously rich and spends a lot of money
- 15:37Speaker 2: on a lot of elections he loses. And who starred, Oh,
- 15:41Speaker 2: Javier bisera former HHS secretary whose staff has been involved
- 15:45Speaker 2: in major scandals in the last couple of years. They
- 15:49Speaker 2: had a debate on CNN this week, and my goodness,
- 15:54Speaker 2: Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco just stood there grinning at
- 15:58Speaker 2: each other while every one else was like open.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Season on each other. And I enjoyed it very much. Yeah,
- 16:04Speaker 1: it was really wild to watch. It's a very smart
- 16:07Speaker 1: strategy to let the Democrats eat their own because that's
- 16:11Speaker 1: what they're that's what they're good at And you know,
- 16:14Speaker 1: we saw in the in the primary or in the
- 16:17Speaker 1: presidential election, they could not allow themselves a primary because
- 16:22Speaker 1: they just no one was strong enough to win, and
- 16:24Speaker 1: so they sort of anointed Kamala and anointed Biden before that.
- 16:31Speaker 1: So it's really enjoyable watching them try to function in
- 16:34Speaker 1: a primary process because they can't. They cannot, they can't
- 16:37Speaker 1: do this. None of them are very good. Now, that
- 16:39Speaker 1: might not matter, it's it's California.
- 16:42Speaker 2: There's a lot of Democrats there. They might just vote
- 16:44Speaker 2: for somebody who's not very good. But as even some
- 16:48Speaker 2: on the left point out, like the state of life
- 16:52Speaker 2: and quality of life in California speaks to a huge
- 16:56Speaker 2: problem with progressive governance. It doesn't matter how good Gvin
- 16:59Speaker 2: Newsome hair looks if everyone can point to the state's
- 17:04Speaker 2: homelessness problem or the budget or the taxation and say,
- 17:07Speaker 2: how are you possibly letting this happen to everyone? There
- 17:12Speaker 2: was an interesting moment where Katie Porter, of course, signals
- 17:15Speaker 2: how far left and how far into disaster she's willing
- 17:20Speaker 2: to go on policy just to be far left.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Here she is on health care for Leegal limegrants.
- 17:27Speaker 4: Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding healthcare
- 17:30Speaker 4: for undocumented immigrants statewide.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and.
- 17:36Speaker 5: That's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve as
- 17:38Speaker 5: answers to these questions, Elix and for.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Critics who say that we can't afford unattractiveness of Americans
- 17:45Speaker 1: working very very hard, especially in a really expensive state
- 17:48Speaker 1: like California, to pay for health care for people who
- 17:52Speaker 1: are there illegally. What polling is she doing? What possibly
- 17:57Speaker 1: could motivate her? And it's because she has to, She
- 18:00Speaker 1: has to pass this bar of acceptability on the left.
- 18:04Speaker 1: But that doesn't make you electable, that doesn't make you
- 18:07Speaker 1: enticing to voters. I wonder if she's trying to actually
- 18:12Speaker 1: get elected, because this is not the actions of someone
- 18:15Speaker 1: who would like to to get to higher off.
- 18:17Speaker 2: As like you're already broke, like just give it, give
- 18:21Speaker 2: it at least a little bit of a hedge, like, well,
- 18:24Speaker 2: you know, we want to do right by people. I mean,
- 18:26Speaker 2: because Bianga rightly in the in that frame is just
- 18:29Speaker 2: shaking his head like because it's nonsense talk, right. Among
- 18:33Speaker 2: other nonsense talk that she had on the evening was
- 18:36Speaker 2: she was asked about her behavior by Caitlyn Collins and
- 18:40Speaker 2: she got like a little like a little catch in
- 18:43Speaker 2: her throat when she was talking about said she's taken
- 18:45Speaker 2: responsibility for it many times. She apologized to the person
- 18:47Speaker 2: on the tape, and then she turned it around on
- 18:50Speaker 2: the guys on stage and said, but I don't think
- 18:53Speaker 2: with all this bickering and interrupting i've seen here on
- 18:56Speaker 2: this stage, that anyone should have a question about my temperament,
- 18:59Speaker 2: at which point the sheriff Bianco says, you've been interrupting
- 19:03Speaker 2: all the rest of us, just like everyone.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:07Speaker 2: She's like, she's like, she says, here's this is the
- 19:10Speaker 2: funny part. She goes, oh, well, cowboy up Buttercup or
- 19:13Speaker 2: something like Cowboy up cupcake, is what she said. Because
- 19:16Speaker 2: if you're being interrupted by Katie Porter, it's obviously a
- 19:18Speaker 2: privilege and you should not be a woos about it.
- 19:21Speaker 1: I mean, she seems to think that, like men and
- 19:24Speaker 1: women are held to different standards, and she's correct. If
- 19:28Speaker 1: a husband had poured hot potato mashed potatoes on their
- 19:32Speaker 1: wife's head, that is a different standard. When I hear
- 19:36Speaker 1: a women woman did it, I'm like, oh, that's not
- 19:38Speaker 1: that's not a good look for you. That's not great.
- 19:41Speaker 1: If a man did that, I'd be like, Oh, that
- 19:43Speaker 1: is path maniac who needs to be nowhere near this.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So she is begiven She's being given a lot of
- 19:52Speaker 1: leeway as a woman, and she seems to think that
- 19:56Speaker 1: she's she's not being given to any advantages by virtue
- 19:58Speaker 1: of the fact that she's a woman. In I have
- 20:00Speaker 1: news for her.
- 20:02Speaker 2: The knives were also out for Besara on a CNN
- 20:05Speaker 2: panel where a former Biden administration official was like, honestly,
- 20:09Speaker 2: he wasn't that good at HHS.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of that.
- 20:12Speaker 6: When I saw him in the administration, and I think
- 20:14Speaker 6: a lot of people did, and that it's it's people
- 20:16Speaker 6: understand this. It's he was not effective in governmenting. And
- 20:19Speaker 6: I think that a lot of people in the Biden
- 20:21Speaker 6: administration are talking about this because they realized that he
- 20:25Speaker 6: was not an effective HHS secretary. And if you ask
- 20:27Speaker 6: any cabinet secretary, they would tell you the same thing.
- 20:30Speaker 6: And so I think that there is a I think
- 20:34Speaker 6: people recognize this, and I think this is why Tom
- 20:36Speaker 6: Steyer has gone to the top.
- 20:38Speaker 4: Biden and Harris think that I think there have.
- 20:40Speaker 7: Been I have not spoken with them about it. This
- 20:44Speaker 7: is not the first time that I've heard of yet. Right, Yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 7: So what so she's talking about is a real thing,
- 20:49Speaker 7: and you kind of got a little bit of a
- 20:52Speaker 7: sense of it on the stage tonight, where the attacks
- 20:55Speaker 7: against Besara were not about what he was or wasn't
- 20:59Speaker 7: going to do in California. It was about his record
- 21:02Speaker 7: in the Biden administration. It was about his character, it
- 21:06Speaker 7: was about his leadership. And I do think that's going
- 21:09Speaker 7: to be a problem. I'm not sure that Joe Biden
- 21:12Speaker 7: adjacent brand is a good brand right now anywhere.
- 21:16Speaker 3: In this countries.
- 21:17Speaker 7: And I also think that the HHS situation, when you
- 21:19Speaker 7: dig deeper into what he did in that role, that
- 21:22Speaker 7: could be a problem for him.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Oh maybe we should have dug deeper when it was happening.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I wish someone had recommended that at the time. If
- 21:33Speaker 1: only someone had thought to themselves, maybe Biden should be
- 21:37Speaker 1: better at governing to create a runway for future Democrats
- 21:42Speaker 1: and make them more appealing. Wow, who would have thought
- 21:47Speaker 1: of such a thing in politics in twenty twenty six. Yeah.
- 21:50Speaker 2: Once again, much like with Spencer Pratt, I daren't hope
- 21:53Speaker 2: that the state or the city of la could take
- 21:56Speaker 2: a turn in a different direction, but I think they
- 21:59Speaker 2: would all be better off if they would take a
- 22:00Speaker 2: turn in a different direction.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Speaking of political instincts, I've never seen anything like Spencer Pratt.
- 22:08Speaker 1: The best ads, I've ever seen, the best talking points.
- 22:12Speaker 1: And he is facing an opponent who seems committed to
- 22:17Speaker 1: having him win because the things she's hitting him on
- 22:20Speaker 1: are like, well, he doesn't even live here, Yeah, because
- 22:23Speaker 1: you let him his house burned down. It's because you
- 22:26Speaker 1: let that happen. She she creates. She's like paving his
- 22:30Speaker 1: new driveway at the Mayor's manchion, and she's like, here's
- 22:34Speaker 1: all the things that I should have been told by
- 22:36Speaker 1: my consultants to never ever give him an opening for.
- 22:40Speaker 1: And the number one thing is residency. It's his residence,
- 22:44Speaker 1: because that's the whole reason he's doing this whole crazy thing.
- 22:48Speaker 1: I would love him to keep on eating burritos on
- 22:52Speaker 1: social media. I thought that was delightful, But now I'm
- 22:55Speaker 1: pretty sold on his ability to be, you know, running
- 22:58Speaker 1: the entire city of Los Angeles, because I can't. I
- 23:00Speaker 1: don't think it can get worse. No, he's tapping into
- 23:03Speaker 1: a very real thing.
- 23:04Speaker 2: And I also, I have one more clip that I
- 23:05Speaker 2: want to tell you because it show, because it has
- 23:07Speaker 2: to do with California's policies and the policies of blue
- 23:10Speaker 2: states that they keep running into the results of this
- 23:13Speaker 2: is Nick Christoph of The New York Times at a
- 23:15Speaker 2: you know, one of these global confabs where they all
- 23:17Speaker 2: get together and talk about the things that you and
- 23:20Speaker 2: I knew like a year and a half ago, in
- 23:22Speaker 2: this case literacy. Let's hear Christoph breaking the news to
- 23:26Speaker 2: a room full of elite liberals.
- 23:29Speaker 4: We have every bit as much of an affordability crisis,
- 23:32Speaker 4: in part because of a stranglehold of regulations. And you know,
- 23:38Speaker 4: we talk a good game about the importance of education,
- 23:42Speaker 4: and yet a black kid in Mississippi is two and
- 23:45Speaker 4: a half times as likely to be proficient in math
- 23:48Speaker 4: and reading by fourth grade as a black kid in California.
- 23:51Speaker 4: And so happen? I mean, do we need to look
- 23:56Speaker 4: a little bit less at what the Trump had been
- 24:00Speaker 4: is doing to harm working class families and look a
- 24:05Speaker 4: little more in the memory.
- 24:07Speaker 1: That is a good question. It's if only someone had
- 24:10Speaker 1: been yelling about the importance of schools six years ago,
- 24:14Speaker 1: wasn't it? Christophf tell you that it was.
- 24:17Speaker 2: The Grandma Killers and we were out there, yep, but
- 24:21Speaker 2: they are sort of having to face this occasionally.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I don't know if it's enough.
- 24:25Speaker 2: To make the Katie Porters of the world ever change
- 24:27Speaker 2: their minds about what works and what doesn't, because I
- 24:30Speaker 2: think she's interested in what works to elect her.
- 24:33Speaker 1: But she's not a very nice lady, so I don't
- 24:35Speaker 1: know if that's going to work out for her. So
- 24:36Speaker 1: we shall keep you posted. We will be back on
- 24:40Speaker 1: normally after this quick message.
- 24:45Speaker 2: We are back on normally with a little I don't know,
- 24:48Speaker 2: weekly recap of anti Semitism news. We already covered Graham
- 24:52Speaker 2: Platner earlier in the week and how Democrats have decided
- 24:54Speaker 2: that Nazi tattoos mean nothing about a person, don't worry
- 24:57Speaker 2: about it. And now we're on to some more incidents.
- 25:00Speaker 2: There were swastika's painted on I believe, synagogues and memorials
- 25:05Speaker 2: to Crystal Knock victims in Queen's And then there's a
- 25:10Speaker 2: story out of Cornell as well.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Yeah, so the the president of the school's car was
- 25:16Speaker 1: surrounded every single day. There are more and more stories
- 25:22Speaker 1: here where I live in Montgomery County. There were messages
- 25:27Speaker 1: posted in spray paint on a on an elementary school,
- 25:30Speaker 1: screw the Jews in Arabic because it wasn't clear enough
- 25:35Speaker 1: who might have been the authors otherwise. Uh No, it's
- 25:39Speaker 1: it's really it's really wild to see the fact that
- 25:43Speaker 1: you know, no kings, no fascis, and YadA YadA, but
- 25:47Speaker 1: the only the only anti Semitism and kings that they
- 25:51Speaker 1: are comfortable with are from from their own side. Yeah,
- 25:56Speaker 1: it's uh.
- 25:57Speaker 2: This I think that this Fox News coverage kind of
- 25:59Speaker 2: puts a point on it. The New York City released
- 26:01Speaker 2: hate crimes data and some crime data for the year
- 26:05Speaker 2: thus far, and antisemitic incidents in New York City nearly
- 26:08Speaker 2: tripled in January, as other crimes hit record lows. According
- 26:11Speaker 2: to police data released on Tuesday, hate crimes against Jewish
- 26:15Speaker 2: people soaring and eighty two percent, with thirty one reported
- 26:19Speaker 2: incidents versus eleven in January twenty twenty five.
- 26:23Speaker 1: It's not great, guys. No, And what's wild about those
- 26:26Speaker 1: numbers is that they're not even accurate because the mayorly
- 26:31Speaker 1: appointed NYPD leadership changed the reporting procedures on what constitutes
- 26:37Speaker 1: an anti submitted crime, so we actually don't really have data.
- 26:41Speaker 1: The fact that we have this data and it's that bad.
- 26:44Speaker 1: We have no way of knowing what it actually is.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Yes, I believe we discussed this on normally in the
- 26:49Speaker 2: past where they changed the data so it's now apples
- 26:52Speaker 2: to oranges, which makes it very hard to do these comparisons.
- 26:55Speaker 2: But it made it harder to register these crimes in
- 26:59Speaker 2: the current data, which means the fact that we have
- 27:00Speaker 2: this means that you probably have a.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Lot more than this. Yeah, is depressing in its own right.
- 27:06Speaker 1: The entire city is just putting its hands over its
- 27:08Speaker 1: ears and going la la, la, la la, and that's
- 27:10Speaker 1: how they record data.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Zoron Mondani, of course says that he is horrified by
- 27:14Speaker 2: the swastikas painted in Queens, But you note that when
- 27:19Speaker 2: it comes to actual legislation in the city and putting
- 27:22Speaker 2: your money where your mouth is. He did not want
- 27:25Speaker 2: to back protection for Jewish sites and Jewish schools.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yet he not only didn't want to
- 27:33Speaker 1: back it, he actually vetoed it. It was a city
- 27:36Speaker 1: council bill, a number one seventy five Dashbe that would
- 27:39Speaker 1: have given Jewish schools protections. And fast forward to there
- 27:45Speaker 1: was a real estate event that was happening at a
- 27:47Speaker 1: synagogue at Park East and you know the pro Palestine
- 27:52Speaker 1: Prohamas people decided that they were going to protest that event.
- 27:55Speaker 1: But in order to do that, they they were assembling
- 28:00Speaker 1: in front of the building, which is also a school,
- 28:04Speaker 1: so they had to evacuate the nursery school students who
- 28:07Speaker 1: were there. And had that bill passed, they would have
- 28:11Speaker 1: been prevented from protesting Jewish children. And especially after what
- 28:15Speaker 1: we saw in Michigan an attempted mass assassination of an
- 28:20Speaker 1: entire building of Jewish little children, one would think that
- 28:24Speaker 1: this would be recognized as like a net good for
- 28:27Speaker 1: our like let's not let Jewish children be massacred in
- 28:30Speaker 1: America for the sake of being Jewish. Well, no, no, that's
- 28:33Speaker 1: not what mom naughty is after here. No.
- 28:35Speaker 2: And also instead, what happened in Michigan was that ad
- 28:38Speaker 2: I'll say ed, who is I think now leading the
- 28:41Speaker 2: Democratic Senate primary in Michigan. He had Hassan Piker campaigning
- 28:48Speaker 2: with him two weeks after the attempted the attempted massacre
- 28:53Speaker 2: by a husband aligned person. Yep, and Hassan Piker himself
- 28:58Speaker 2: has has fanboyd or Hezbola and.
- 29:00Speaker 8: Its flag on many a cage and It's like, can
- 29:05Speaker 8: you imagine if twenty five years ago you had told
- 29:07Speaker 8: yourself that this is what would happen in Michigan in
- 29:11Speaker 8: a Democratic Senate race.
- 29:12Speaker 1: I mean, it is wild and in Maine too. He
- 29:16Speaker 1: had a and he by the way, Graham Platner, I'm
- 29:19Speaker 1: all for all of us fixating on the fact that
- 29:21Speaker 1: he had a Nazi tattoo. But wait, there's more. I
- 29:24Speaker 1: know he also cheered October seventh and supported those and
- 29:29Speaker 1: like that's a righteous fight. He was cheering that on.
- 29:34Speaker 1: We twenty five years after nine to eleven have people
- 29:37Speaker 1: who think that America had it coming, who are already
- 29:41Speaker 1: serving in Congress and who are trying to serve in Congress,
- 29:45Speaker 1: and there are a plurality of Democratic voters who are like,
- 29:49Speaker 1: that's my guy.
- 29:50Speaker 2: Well, not only like a plurality, that's not only like
- 29:52Speaker 2: it's okay with me, but that's a feature, not a bum.
- 29:55Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's the difference. Okay, Because this is
- 29:59Speaker 1: like a little bit of downer.
- 30:00Speaker 2: I'm going to close with a clip of Kemy Badnach,
- 30:04Speaker 2: who is the head of conservative leadership in the UK,
- 30:08Speaker 2: being very morally clear about these incidents and bringing something
- 30:12Speaker 2: that everyone should bring to the table. And she's really
- 30:15Speaker 2: worth listening to for a minute.
- 30:16Speaker 3: Here she is, let's stop pretending that something else is happening.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Thank you. It is it very much?
- 30:22Speaker 1: Is it very much? Is it very much?
- 30:25Speaker 3: Is about Jewish people. And you can say, you can
- 30:27Speaker 3: say all that, you can say all.
- 30:29Speaker 4: That you like.
- 30:29Speaker 3: But this is how the nineteen thirty started, with people
- 30:32Speaker 3: pretending not to see what was happening in front of them.
- 30:35Speaker 3: I am not lying.
- 30:36Speaker 1: I can see.
- 30:37Speaker 3: No, No, I'm telling people. I'm telling people betray and
- 30:40Speaker 3: they will always know that I stand behind Jewish people
- 30:44Speaker 3: when I stand for them.
- 30:45Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. You just have to
- 30:47Speaker 1: accept that.
- 30:48Speaker 3: Yes, that's too bad. That's too bad. People know where
- 30:50Speaker 3: I stand and I'm not going to be intimidated.
- 30:53Speaker 1: No, no, no, I am the right. I am the right, and.
- 30:56Speaker 3: I'm very proud of being on the right. I'm not
- 30:58Speaker 3: pandering to the cart right. And what I am doing
- 31:00Speaker 3: is supporting no, no, no, what I'm doing is support
- 31:03Speaker 3: your Jewish people from the sort of ignorance people like
- 31:05Speaker 3: you put out there. And I will never be in Sudata.
- 31:08Speaker 1: Bytes, especially in the wake of the million attacks that
- 31:13Speaker 1: have happened against the community, the Jewish community in England
- 31:16Speaker 1: over the course of the last three weeks, including stabbings
- 31:19Speaker 1: and an October seventh memorial wall being lit up in flames.
- 31:24Speaker 1: That's a thing that needs to be said.
- 31:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important and I appreciate her doing it. She
- 31:29Speaker 2: sounds great, she keeps her cool. She really owns that
- 31:32Speaker 2: moment alariety. Thank you so much, Bethany for being with us.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Where can we find you at Bethany Sean Dark.
- 31:38Speaker 1: On Twitter and Instagram. And I have a podcast called
- 31:42Speaker 1: The mom Wars, which you still haven't been on. I know,
- 31:45Speaker 1: we gotta remedy that, all right.
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