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Justin Love - From 5$ to Grammy Glory · Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro

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Speaker 3: Her Okay man, I never I have never seen that
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Speaker 4: I'm melting Pot of Pudding and now here's Jim.
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon everybody, and welcome to Cats and Pudding. And
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Speaker 2: I'm Jennifer Delango and today we have a wonderful guest.
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Speaker 2: His name is Justin Love. Hello, Hello, say hi Justin,
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Speaker 2: I'm so cute. Hi, I'm Justin is a singer songwriter
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Speaker 2: and you are a two time Grammy one now yes,
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Speaker 2: so that's amazing. And we have a mutual friend, Johnny.
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Speaker 2: So that's how that's how we that's how we know
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Speaker 2: each other. Yes, he's my son, slash publicist slash friends.
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Speaker 2: He's just he's a great guy. I love him. So
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Speaker 2: we connected through him. And you told me about you,
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Speaker 2: and you're amazing and I'd like to hear your story.
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Speaker 2: So tell us a little bit about yourself, your handsome,
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Speaker 2: beautiful self.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Well, first and foremost, I'm happy
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Speaker 4: to be here.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, happy to have you.
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Speaker 3: You know, I've been doing music my entire life. I
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Speaker 3: used to sing Happy Birthday to my entire family every
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Speaker 3: time it was someone's birthday.
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Speaker 4: And I have a really big family. I was singing
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Speaker 4: Happy Birthday, I think at least once a week, just
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Speaker 4: about growing up.
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Speaker 2: Every day, so find somebody was having a birthday so
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Speaker 2: you could go sec it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I felt like that's what my mom was
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Speaker 4: setting me up to do. Honestly, Like, is ever having
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Speaker 4: a birthday?
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Speaker 2: Can I sing for you now?
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Speaker 3: My mom is definitely one of my biggest inspirations because
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Speaker 3: she was she was the one who would always sing
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Speaker 3: Happy Birthday. Back in the day when you know, before
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Speaker 3: Instagram and whatnot, it was only voicemails, so my family
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Speaker 3: members knew to not pick up the phone so that
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Speaker 3: she can sing happy Birthday. And I remember it was
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Speaker 3: going to be my my younger.
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Speaker 4: Brother's first birthday, and I told my mom, like mom,
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Speaker 4: I was four years old at the time.
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Speaker 3: I was like, Mom, I want to sing Happy Birthday
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Speaker 3: to Brandon. And she was like, oh yeah, let me
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Speaker 3: hear you.
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Speaker 4: So I started singing.
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Speaker 3: I was cracking all over the space, like ill file
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Speaker 3: for you know what I'm saying. But she knew I
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Speaker 3: had the passion and does your mom, Yeah, she sings
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Speaker 3: really well.
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Speaker 4: She's she's a she's a beautiful singer.
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Speaker 3: And ever since then, I just took the torch.
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Speaker 4: I just never let it down, you know.
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Speaker 3: And I've been following my dreams since a very young age.
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Speaker 3: I've been blessed to know this is what I'm you know,
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Speaker 3: put on this earth to do, not only for myself,
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Speaker 3: but for other artists as well. It's been one hell
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Speaker 3: of a journey. And you know, now I'm at a
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Speaker 3: point in my career where I'm able to give back,
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Speaker 3: you know, and kind of make it easier for artists
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Speaker 3: like myself to not have to go through what I
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Speaker 3: went through, you know, in this industry, music industry.
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Speaker 2: I mean that tough industry.
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Speaker 4: It's not easy.
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Speaker 2: Competitive, it's ruthless, it's cutthroat, you know, and you know,
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Speaker 2: one minute you're hot, the next minute you're not. There's
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Speaker 2: always somebody up and coming. You know, there's always somebody
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Speaker 2: that dude, you have to look behind you that are
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Speaker 2: going to, you know, trip you down the steads exactly
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Speaker 2: right and try to take your place. How did you
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Speaker 2: navigate through all that?
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Speaker 4: Like? When?
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Speaker 2: When did you?
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Speaker 4: Do?
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Speaker 2: You live in New York or so?
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Speaker 4: I'm from New Jersey. I grew up in New Jersey.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I made quite a name for myself in
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Speaker 3: New Jersey and then I ended up moving to Los
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Speaker 3: Angeles make my dreams true, you know.
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Speaker 2: By yourself? Did you go alone?
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Speaker 4: I went alone at first.
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Speaker 3: And then when I got my first check from from
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Speaker 3: actually songwriting from writing focus for her with her man,
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Speaker 3: I never I've never seen that type of money ever
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Speaker 3: in my life.
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Speaker 2: Joe, who did you write this? You wrote this song
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Speaker 2: for her?
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Speaker 4: The artist her?
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Speaker 2: The artist her?
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so the artist that's her artist's name is her.
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Speaker 3: And you know the first check that I got from that,
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Speaker 3: I think was just about like forty eight thousand dollars.
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Speaker 3: I did not know what to do with that.
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Speaker 4: But actually I lied. I knew exactly exactly what I
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Speaker 4: know exactly what exactly what to do.
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Speaker 2: What was it the right thing to deal with that?
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Speaker 3: Wanting the first check, I did the right thing. I
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Speaker 3: think my mom at that time. I don't know if
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Speaker 3: she enjoy hearing this, my I love you so much,
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Speaker 3: but she had gotten evicted two days before.
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Speaker 4: I saw that.
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Speaker 3: Money in my account, and I basically, you know, spent
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Speaker 3: whatever I needed to spend to make sure that she
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Speaker 3: was with me.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's amazing. So I flew her son, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: thank you. I flew her out. I mean I flew
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Speaker 4: everything out, the furniture of the car, the anything she
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Speaker 4: needed to feel good and better. You know.
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Speaker 3: You know, at the time, I had a girlfriend and
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Speaker 3: I was paying rent there, but I just got me
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Speaker 3: and my mom a place, so I was.
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Speaker 4: Paying two rents.
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Speaker 3: I had a money management problem for sure, but I
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Speaker 3: knew that I needed my.
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Speaker 4: Mom with me and justier.
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Speaker 2: You know, because that made you feel bad, I was
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Speaker 2: able to make you have peace of mind that your
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Speaker 2: mom was in a good place.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it also helped because you know, La is also
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Speaker 3: a very cutthroat as well, and it's a lot.
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Speaker 2: It's it's not like I mean growing up in New
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Speaker 2: York and New Jersey. I mean, we we have that
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Speaker 2: neighborhood feel. People know each other.
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Speaker 4: You grew up with the.
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Speaker 2: People in LA. It's not like that. It's a lot
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Speaker 2: of transient people, you know, and a lot of them
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Speaker 2: aren't the best of people. Let's put it that way.
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Speaker 2: They're not the best of a lot of them don't
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Speaker 2: have a great character.
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Speaker 4: Should I say, Well, what I can't say about LA
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Speaker 4: is that a lot of people that are in LA
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Speaker 4: are just not from LA. And it's a lot of
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Speaker 4: lost and broken people that go to one place to
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Speaker 4: make their dreams come true.
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Speaker 3: So it becomes very sharky. So if you don't know
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Speaker 3: how to swim, yeah, it tends to get a little difficult,
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Speaker 3: you know. Hence why I also moved from Los Angeles
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Speaker 3: and I moved to Miami. And I was in Miami
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Speaker 3: for three years and I did I did quite a
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Speaker 3: number out there, and now I'm back home with my
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Speaker 3: family in Jersey.
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Speaker 2: You know, and you're working from there now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I travel. I just came from Miami,
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Speaker 3: like I landed an hour or two ago. I just
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Speaker 3: came straight here. I'm doing like a charity toy drive
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Speaker 3: out there for our basil.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. I know you're working on anything now,
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Speaker 2: any music now?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: A lot of my music that I plan on putting
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Speaker 3: out for twenty twenty four is pretty much done already.
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Speaker 3: I have about four projects to roll out and now
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Speaker 3: I actually just joined this organization.
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Speaker 4: Guitars Over Guns.
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Speaker 3: Shout out to Guitars over Gunsars over Guns. Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: will be teaching little kids how the song right amazing,
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Speaker 3: fifth and sixth graders amazing. So that's going to be
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Speaker 3: like my main priority for like twenty twenty four, as
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Speaker 3: well as rolling up.
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Speaker 2: Bringing those back into school. I'm taking it away. They
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Speaker 2: took it away, which is not which is very important.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think bring it back.
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Speaker 3: If I had some more arts in school, performing arts
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Speaker 3: or just like music programs and whatnot like this one,
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Speaker 3: it would have helped me get up in the morning. Honestly,
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Speaker 3: it would have made me want to go to school.
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Speaker 4: And I think that's what kids need.
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Speaker 3: They need a reason to want to go to school
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Speaker 3: and then you know, then they can learn their curriculums
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Speaker 3: and whatnot.
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Speaker 2: But I agree they need something to open up their
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Speaker 2: mind and their passion and to get them something that
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Speaker 2: they're that they are interested in. All most kids are
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Speaker 2: interested in music. So that would definitely that that help,
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Speaker 2: that does help with education. It said that they did
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Speaker 2: take that, you know, a lot of the they cut
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Speaker 2: a lot of the music programs you know in New
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Speaker 2: especially New York, you know, and they're funding other things
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Speaker 2: for the public school system that there are other projects
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Speaker 2: to put into play into the school system. And I
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Speaker 2: think that music is probably something that is universal for everybody,
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Speaker 2: you know, for every race, color, creed, religion, everybody loves.
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Speaker 2: They're all of music, right, and that's what music heals
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Speaker 2: and brings people together. So that would me would make
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Speaker 2: sense to bring that incorporate that into learning because I
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Speaker 2: think that it would definitely, you know, cause a better
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Speaker 2: effect than other things that are being installed.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because look, I was a good kid. I was
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Speaker 4: a good kid.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't the best student, and I had a hard
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Speaker 3: time focusing. You know, I grew up with ADHD and whatnot.
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Speaker 3: A lot of creatives do grow up with something of
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Speaker 3: that nature. And you know, music always put me in
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Speaker 3: one focus, in one zone.
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Speaker 2: Give you more of a tunnel vision yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, and let's just say I didn't do well
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Speaker 3: in any of the other other subjects. At least if
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Speaker 3: I saw that I had an A plus and music,
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Speaker 3: I'd have felt.
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Speaker 2: Like you accomplished.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have felt like, you know, like this could
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Speaker 3: be for me no matter what, which I always knew
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Speaker 3: music was for me, but not everyone does.
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Speaker 2: Do you play a lot of instruments by ear?
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say I'm a piano player, but
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Speaker 3: I can play something, you know.
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Speaker 4: But I do produce. I'm a I'm a sound designer.
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Speaker 4: I design sounds, you know.
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Speaker 2: And what is your favorite genre of music?
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Speaker 4: R and B all the way? I love R and
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Speaker 4: B love music, love all the way.
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Speaker 2: And you write, but you write for other people as well,
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Speaker 2: so you not just for yourself and you write for
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Speaker 2: other people? So what is what is your main is it?
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Speaker 2: Is it you write for others or are you focusing
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Speaker 2: on your your own songwriting for your own for your
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Speaker 2: own you know, career at this point or I mean,
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Speaker 2: what's your path at this point that you feel.
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Speaker 3: Like if I get booked for songwriting, I get booked
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Speaker 3: for songwriting. You know, I have clients that book me
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Speaker 3: to help them write raps. I have clients that help me,
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Speaker 3: uh that that book me to help them, you know,
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Speaker 3: write some R and B stuff.
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Speaker 4: It varies, you know, but you know, wherever the money's at,
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Speaker 4: I'm there.
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Speaker 2: And how did it have? What was there your first
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Speaker 2: big break?
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Speaker 4: Like?
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Speaker 2: How did it had that roll out for you?
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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I didn't. I was. I was at
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Speaker 4: a very like the depressed point in my life, right.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to quit music because, you know, I put
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Speaker 3: out a song that I produced, I wrote, I recorded myself.
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Speaker 4: I did everything on the song. No one helped me
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Speaker 4: with that song.
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Speaker 2: How long ago was this?
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Speaker 4: That was in twenty fifteen, right, so.
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Speaker 5: So you were really younger than I was, really nineteen
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Speaker 5: just about eighteen nineteen, you know, And you know I
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Speaker 5: saw the song did numbers, and the team I was
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Speaker 5: with at the time, you know, every time I had
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Speaker 5: questions about hey, like where like when?
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Speaker 3: When when are we getting paid? Or like how is
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Speaker 3: this process supposed to work?
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Speaker 4: They always navigated around the question very well.
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Speaker 2: And you know, well, they were they were, they were,
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Speaker 2: they were. They didn't want to pay you. That's probably
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Speaker 2: what it sounds like. You know, they figured you're young,
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Speaker 2: you know, you're hungry. They could get away with it
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Speaker 2: with you.
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Speaker 3: And and they pretty much did, you know. But but
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Speaker 3: it's okay, you know, like it's some certain learning experience,
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Speaker 3: certain lessons you just got to take on the chin
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Speaker 3: and know how to move forward, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: But hence that being the situation and me being as
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Speaker 3: stressed about, like I don't know if music is for
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Speaker 3: me anymore, right, because like I'm not even making money.
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Speaker 3: I'm not even like, okay, I got millions of streams,
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Speaker 3: but I don't even know how to get my money.
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Speaker 4: I don't know how this works. You know.
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Speaker 3: I was so depressed. I walked, I didn't walk. I
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Speaker 3: took a bus to New York. I only had like
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Speaker 3: five dollars to my name, right, So the first bus
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Speaker 3: from New Jersey to New York, you know, I just
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Speaker 3: hopped it.
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Speaker 4: I didn't even pay, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, I just kicked the doors open and I got off,
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Speaker 3: you know, so I still had five dollars. Then I
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Speaker 3: went to the dollar slice pizza spot and I got
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Speaker 3: two slices and a can of sol.
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Speaker 2: You can't get a slice of pizza readymore for a dollar?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's right, so not more so back then it
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Speaker 4: was it was two fifty for two slices and a
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Speaker 4: cannon soda. So I did that. So I had two
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Speaker 4: fifty left.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I really went for no reason, like
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Speaker 3: I just needed like some fresh air.
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Speaker 4: I just I needed to walk around. I did. I
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Speaker 4: didn't really know what to do. I didn't know what
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Speaker 4: I was doing.
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Speaker 3: I just left, you know, I wanted to be away
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Speaker 3: from everything and everyone.
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Speaker 4: So that's exactly what I did.
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Speaker 3: On my way back home, I guess I was going
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Speaker 3: to take the transit and you can't have the transit bus.
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Speaker 4: You have to pay before you get in the transit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go back to Jersey.
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they don't play, so they don't. So I
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Speaker 4: was going to spend my last few dollars on that.
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Speaker 3: And you know, on the way to that bus, someone
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Speaker 3: you know from across the sheet was like, justin, Justin,
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Speaker 3: I got this artist upstairs. And at first I was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I forgot I was even like an artist. He's like, yeah, man,
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Speaker 3: we were at your show last.
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Speaker 2: Week, so somebody recognized you and just and you just
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Speaker 2: have to bump into them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. His name is.
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Speaker 3: Jason Hovedi and he works for her. He works for
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Speaker 3: that that team and whatnot. And you know, at that point,
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Speaker 3: I would have worked with the mailman. It didn't matter
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Speaker 3: who you.
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Speaker 2: Were, Like, I just wanted to create.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went upstairs and there she was just
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Speaker 3: like playing the piano. She went from the piano to
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Speaker 3: the guitar, from the guitar to the bass.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is.
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Speaker 3: Amazing, you know, because growing up I was never really
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Speaker 3: around like like minded individuals like myself that were into music.
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Speaker 4: The way I was.
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Speaker 3: So I was always creating artists like like, yo, you'd
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Speaker 3: be a dope artist, come to my house, and I
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Speaker 3: would like use them as practice and teach them how
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Speaker 3: to you know, either write or record or like just
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Speaker 3: rap or sing, you know, and.
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Speaker 2: You would help them like create their persona basically.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I would do that from scratch, like I always
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Speaker 3: had a blank canvas, so like, I never had an
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Speaker 3: artist that can actually do this and does this for real.
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Speaker 3: And that was my first experience, you know, working with
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Speaker 3: someone that's talented as a as her And yeah.
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Speaker 2: Man, have you have you been working with her since?
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Speaker 2: I mean, how how many have you wrote another? Written
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Speaker 2: other songs? For?
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Speaker 4: No? That situation kind of was like a like a
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Speaker 4: one off situation, but.
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Speaker 2: It opened doors for your father.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and did and didn't. And I'm super blessed to
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Speaker 4: be able to say so. You know, I'm thankful.
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Speaker 2: Can you sing a verse to a song that you're
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Speaker 2: that you that you're writing now with something that that's
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Speaker 2: close to your heart. I'd like to hear you saying.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you.
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Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite songs that I have actually,
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Speaker 3: and it's called jealous, So I'll sing a little bit
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Speaker 3: of it.
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Speaker 4: Girl.
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Speaker 6: I'm sick of the wind brushing your hey, how I
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Speaker 6: prushy doom doom, and I hate how you poping all
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Speaker 6: on the Grandbud Love. I'm so sick, oh love girl Bud.
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Speaker 4: I want you now, I won't you. I'm so sick. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: but I'm ready to flaunt you now. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Eat amazing. We didn't know how to musical versions show.
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Speaker 2: That's amazing. You have a beautiful voice.
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: And you wrote and you wrote that song? What was
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Speaker 2: your inspiration for that song? Like I always I always
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Speaker 2: wanted like certain when you listen to a lyric or,
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Speaker 2: you listen to a song like where where that would
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Speaker 2: come from? And a lot of people are like, tell
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Speaker 2: her swift everything is from a breakup, and I feel
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Speaker 2: like she just breaks up with people just so she
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Speaker 2: could write a song. Like that's what she's like, let
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Speaker 2: me date somebody some music sometime so that I could
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Speaker 2: write it.
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Speaker 4: That is no joke. But jealous is just about a
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Speaker 4: time period where I used to be very jealous, you know,
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Speaker 4: like I just I love and I love hard and
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Speaker 4: I just want to be with my lady twenty four
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Speaker 4: to seven. And it wasn't necessarily me being jealous of
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Speaker 4: another man. It's just me jealous of.
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Speaker 3: Anything having more time with her than me, like just
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Speaker 3: like the wind, or just her job or just anything
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Speaker 3: else that has anything to do with not me.
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Speaker 2: So basically, you want her to pay attentionally to you.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just like every other man.
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Speaker 2: As sensitive. You want to stay why real funny?
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Speaker 4: Are you so?
17:46
Speaker 2: Are you married? Are you this is your your engage
17:50
Speaker 2: or together.
17:51
Speaker 4: I'm not married or engaged or anything like that, but
17:54
Speaker 4: this is the one you think I do. I do have.
17:57
Speaker 4: I do have a special person, and uh I could
18:00
Speaker 4: see myself, you know, doing forever with her.
18:03
Speaker 2: So that's amazing.
18:04
Speaker 4: I'm excited. You're you're you're.
18:06
Speaker 2: An exceptional case for somebody twenty seven in these days,
18:09
Speaker 2: because usually lately people don't decide to get married and
18:12
Speaker 2: have children until way into their their thirties.
18:15
Speaker 3: I don't really, I don't really, like, you know, where
18:18
Speaker 3: this generation is headed in terms of love and.
18:23
Speaker 4: Relationships and family values. And family values that's a big one,
18:28
Speaker 4: you know.
18:29
Speaker 2: You know that what that's what societies are built on.
18:31
Speaker 2: His family, you know, And I think a lot. And
18:34
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty. That's pretty. That's pretty inspirational to hear
18:39
Speaker 2: somebody your age say that, because it's very important to
18:43
Speaker 2: have family, because that's what binds a society together. And
18:46
Speaker 2: you know what, I feel like, so many things that
18:47
Speaker 2: are going on in this world now it's like they're
18:49
Speaker 2: trying to rip the family apart. But that's the basis
18:51
Speaker 2: of it.
18:52
Speaker 4: It's important to have your family, I mean, without your
18:55
Speaker 4: The thing about family is like.
18:58
Speaker 2: That's your tribe, it's your identity.
19:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, and not not only that, but like you know,
19:03
Speaker 4: and support system.
19:05
Speaker 3: I have my accolades. You have your accolades. You know,
19:08
Speaker 3: we all have our accolades. And you know, when you're
19:11
Speaker 3: out and you're meeting people, they look at you for
19:14
Speaker 3: what you're worth, and they equate that to your accolades.
19:17
Speaker 4: Your family, doesn't you know what I'm.
19:20
Speaker 2: Saying, That's true. They have they love you. They just
19:23
Speaker 2: love you unconditionally, most of them.
19:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, it's just very easy for this
19:27
Speaker 3: generation to get lost in that, you know, whole of
19:31
Speaker 3: thinking they can do everything themselves without everyone, and you
19:35
Speaker 3: just can't do it wholehearted right without your family.
19:39
Speaker 2: And that, you know what that's really bread the fresh
19:42
Speaker 2: ass somebody of your generations saying that, because it seems
19:45
Speaker 2: that in this generation, it seems like they almost want
19:49
Speaker 2: you to isolate yourself between the phone, between the video games,
19:53
Speaker 2: between just doing everything by even going outside. It's it's
19:57
Speaker 2: hard to get kids to even go outside. Like when
19:59
Speaker 2: I was a kid, I was outside, I would come on,
20:01
Speaker 2: I would get up, I'd be out all day long,
20:03
Speaker 2: and I would never see my parents until I either
20:05
Speaker 2: came home. Well, only if I was hungry or Thursday,
20:07
Speaker 2: or I got hurt. That was the only time I
20:09
Speaker 2: went home. That was it hungry, thirsty, or I lost
20:12
Speaker 2: an appendage. I would Otherwise I would never be home
20:14
Speaker 2: and I would be like And I see the kids today,
20:18
Speaker 2: you know, they're like so it's just it's like isolation
20:22
Speaker 2: all the time, no matter what they do, and it's
20:24
Speaker 2: it's really it's nice to hear that that's somebody of
20:26
Speaker 2: your age. To even recognize that and to see that,
20:29
Speaker 2: you know, maybe your music will inspire the next generation
20:33
Speaker 2: to be you know, to see that, to see those values,
20:36
Speaker 2: and to see that you know that that that way
20:39
Speaker 2: of thinking, which is that's very that's really that's really great.
20:42
Speaker 2: I think it's amazing.
20:43
Speaker 3: I think right now it's important for me to just
20:45
Speaker 3: get that message across through my music. I think, you know,
20:48
Speaker 3: and growing up and adult saying, I'm realizing the importance
20:52
Speaker 3: of you know, being someone that people listen to and
20:56
Speaker 3: respect and idolize. And I think, you know, with us
21:01
Speaker 3: holding that being in that seat, we we have a
21:06
Speaker 3: lot of responsibility.
21:07
Speaker 2: Have a lot of power. And that's and then you
21:09
Speaker 2: know what what's like looking up to It's like looking
21:12
Speaker 2: up praising to a god basically, I mean, think about
21:15
Speaker 2: that when you're when you listen to these people that
21:17
Speaker 2: are singers and and and actors, you know, you want
21:20
Speaker 2: to set that a good message across because it can
21:23
Speaker 2: become very narcissistic and very you know, me me, me,
21:27
Speaker 2: me me. But you know if you have you know
21:29
Speaker 2: you have a great attitude because you you sound very
21:32
Speaker 2: that you want to spread the you know, your your
21:37
Speaker 2: message like you want to, you want to, you want
21:39
Speaker 2: to say the family is important, you know, for helping
21:42
Speaker 2: other people is important, and it is important because it
21:44
Speaker 2: does come back to you.
21:47
Speaker 3: There are songs that I do have that I do
21:49
Speaker 3: regret putting out. But that's that's part of my legacy
21:54
Speaker 3: and growth.
21:54
Speaker 2: Well, it's a part of growing up to you know,
21:56
Speaker 2: nobody does anything perfect and that's part of your that
22:00
Speaker 2: was part of your journey that you needed to go
22:02
Speaker 2: through to get where you are. Right, there's always a
22:05
Speaker 2: road you have to take to get to another road,
22:07
Speaker 2: to get to the end of the road, to start
22:09
Speaker 2: to start to start going out on the.
22:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what do you feel?
22:21
Speaker 2: So what do you think that your next what would
22:23
Speaker 2: be the next thing that you would want to accomplish?
22:26
Speaker 2: But you've done it singing, you've done songwriting. You've won
22:29
Speaker 2: two Grammys. How is that to win a Grammy? Like
22:31
Speaker 2: what do you do with the Grammars? You put a
22:32
Speaker 2: candy in it? Like look at it? You you dust it?
22:36
Speaker 4: Where is it?
22:36
Speaker 2: Where is it in your house.
22:37
Speaker 4: Writing so so basically and that was the songwriting. Yeah,
22:41
Speaker 4: that's the songwriting. Okay, yeah, that's amazing writing.
22:44
Speaker 2: So even that one grammar, you have to who has Grammys?
22:49
Speaker 2: Not like hey, yeah, you know, hey, how's your grammy doing?
22:52
Speaker 3: It might sound crazy to a lot of people, but
22:54
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have any of my awards.
22:57
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. No, no, uh, well actually she does. Yeah,
23:02
Speaker 4: she has like my certificates and metals and stuff like that.
23:05
Speaker 4: I don't like seeing them, you know.
23:08
Speaker 2: I mean I would have that like senate stage of
23:10
Speaker 2: my house, like on the lights. They would have their
23:13
Speaker 2: own cabinet.
23:14
Speaker 4: It's different for me, you know.
23:15
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, sometimes we have our own inner battles
23:19
Speaker 3: and we have our own way of you know, continuing
23:23
Speaker 3: the job, you know. And I feel like if I
23:27
Speaker 3: see that, it'll get me a little comfortable.
23:30
Speaker 4: Ah, you know what I'm saying. And I don't. And
23:35
Speaker 4: I'm not in a position to get comfortable. I'm not.
23:38
Speaker 2: You don't want to say I got two Grammars. I
23:40
Speaker 2: don't have to do anything anymore.
23:41
Speaker 4: I'm blessed, I'm thankful. I know I have it.
23:44
Speaker 2: You should put them out anyway, Are they heavy?
23:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are heavy.
23:49
Speaker 2: I've touched I've held an oscar before I had I
23:53
Speaker 2: know somebody I don't want to say, but I've touched on.
23:57
Speaker 2: Then they're they're pretty heavy. So that we've gotten, what
24:00
Speaker 2: does it feel like?
24:00
Speaker 3: We got a Soul Train Award two, you know, and
24:04
Speaker 3: a bunch of plaques. You know, I used to I
24:07
Speaker 3: used to have the plaques of I used to you know,
24:10
Speaker 3: see all that stuff, and I don't know, I just feel.
24:14
Speaker 2: Like you should still have a wall, you know. I
24:17
Speaker 2: still have that.
24:19
Speaker 3: My only issue is that I was moving around a lot.
24:21
Speaker 3: I was doing a lot of bouncing around, and like
24:23
Speaker 3: it was hard to just I was.
24:26
Speaker 4: I was never in a stable.
24:29
Speaker 2: Right, you didn't want to keep it in Like the
24:30
Speaker 2: kitchen cabinet my grammy, Like there's.
24:32
Speaker 4: A cop right, I got that's funny. Yeah, but yeah, no, like.
24:39
Speaker 2: You send me a picture of it.
24:40
Speaker 4: I want to say, yeah, I got you for sure.
24:42
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but it was an experience. My mom was
24:46
Speaker 4: my date. Actually I took my mom and what year
24:48
Speaker 4: was us?
24:50
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen, so both of them for the for the
24:53
Speaker 2: same source.
24:53
Speaker 4: So well project, Yeah, the entire project.
24:56
Speaker 2: For her, that's amazing. That's amazing. That's like, that's like
25:01
Speaker 2: such an accomplishment at such a young age. You should feel,
25:04
Speaker 2: you should feel really you know, like if like I
25:06
Speaker 2: don't want to say it forbid, if you do it tomorrow,
25:09
Speaker 2: you can you know what what else is there at
25:11
Speaker 2: this point? But there is a lot more. So there
25:13
Speaker 2: is a lot more, which you know that because you know,
25:16
Speaker 2: if there's other things that are close to you that
25:18
Speaker 2: you want to do. Family right, maybe get married one day.
25:22
Speaker 3: I love to Yeah, I love kids. I do want kids.
25:25
Speaker 3: I want kids pretty soon.
25:26
Speaker 4: Actually you do.
25:28
Speaker 2: You better tell you you better. She wants kids, so
25:31
Speaker 2: you better be ready. You want a lot of kids.
25:35
Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't mind if I could. I mean,
25:38
Speaker 4: they're expensive, they're expensive.
25:40
Speaker 3: So if I could, if I could give them the
25:41
Speaker 3: life that they deserve, absolutely, you know, I wouldn't get
25:45
Speaker 3: too ahead of myself.
25:46
Speaker 2: But you know what the best thing to give to
25:48
Speaker 2: a kid, You'll love them mother. That's the best thing
25:52
Speaker 2: to love each other. When then when kids come out
25:53
Speaker 2: of a loving home, it is there. It's just the
25:56
Speaker 2: best thing in the world. No one, no money could
25:58
Speaker 2: ever buy that. I mean, of course money helps, you know,
26:01
Speaker 2: but it's not everything, you know, it's it's that that
26:05
Speaker 2: that love that you have for each other. So you
26:08
Speaker 2: want to know why I call it cat to pudding.
26:12
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know. So basically, like it came out
26:15
Speaker 2: from in a conversation because we were talking about, like,
26:19
Speaker 2: you know, when when we were just developing the podcast,
26:22
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't believe what my life has
26:24
Speaker 2: has turned into. I went from you know, like you,
26:26
Speaker 2: I was out, I was in in the public parties, vacations,
26:31
Speaker 2: and now it's me home at night, petting my cats,
26:36
Speaker 2: putting out of a pot, like a hot pudding out
26:38
Speaker 2: of a pot, and I go, what happened to me?
26:40
Speaker 2: So basically, hot right out of the pot. Yeah, like
26:42
Speaker 2: I get it off the stove and I put my
26:45
Speaker 2: and my my, my significant other brigs it to me.
26:48
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there with hot with a hot pot
26:50
Speaker 2: and the hot pudding eating and out of the pot.
26:52
Speaker 2: That's what my life has. It's delicious. It's the best thing.
26:56
Speaker 2: Mighty fine chocolate pudding. Hot is delicious. I eat it right,
27:00
Speaker 2: but then I eat the rest of it want of
27:01
Speaker 2: cools off too. So that's my life. So we called
27:05
Speaker 2: the show Cats and Pudding because the show is about
27:07
Speaker 2: cats and pudding. It's from everything from cats to pudding.
27:11
Speaker 4: And you're Italian.
27:12
Speaker 2: Very how could you tell? I could tell with my hands.
27:18
Speaker 4: My grandpa's Italian.
27:20
Speaker 2: Actually is the Italian Sicilian.
27:22
Speaker 4: He's definitely Italian.
27:25
Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm Cicilian, but it's the same thing. But
27:27
Speaker 2: Sicilians will say, what's Sicilian because it's southern Italy.
27:30
Speaker 4: So but he's big on his meat balls. We love
27:34
Speaker 4: our balls, right, we definitely love it.
27:40
Speaker 2: So what is what is next for you?
27:42
Speaker 4: Like?
27:42
Speaker 2: What are you doing like this? So this week? What
27:44
Speaker 2: would be like an event you would go through this week?
27:46
Speaker 4: Oh? So this week?
27:48
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know exactly when this is going
27:49
Speaker 3: to air, but as of right now, I fly back
27:52
Speaker 3: to Miami tomorrow and I have a few events that
27:55
Speaker 3: I'm hosting for art Basil.
27:57
Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, so I'm doing like at dinner with
28:01
Speaker 4: Taylor Port.
28:03
Speaker 3: Uh, there's a there's this place called Pilos Tequila Garden.
28:08
Speaker 4: Shout out to Pilos.
28:09
Speaker 2: I love pillows before. It's in Miami.
28:11
Speaker 4: It's in Miami Winwood.
28:13
Speaker 2: So I have a house in far.
28:15
Speaker 4: And so I go to a lot.
28:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, not as much as I used to again and
28:20
Speaker 2: I'm home eating pudding and patting my cats when I
28:23
Speaker 2: was younger Ice.
28:25
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
28:26
Speaker 3: But and then and then the toy drive on the
28:29
Speaker 3: tenth so I'm performing with with a huge choir. Is
28:33
Speaker 3: going to be Miami's biggest choir they've ever seen.
28:35
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
28:36
Speaker 3: They already have almost seven hundred v R s v
28:40
Speaker 3: ps and you know, we plan.
28:43
Speaker 2: I want to come to one of your events because
28:45
Speaker 2: I'm in Florida once a month, so next time I'll
28:49
Speaker 2: take a night away from my cats and my pudding
28:51
Speaker 2: and I'll come.
28:52
Speaker 4: I do a lot of positive things, you know what
28:55
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
28:55
Speaker 2: I like that you're a very positive person. You've got
28:57
Speaker 2: a good you got a good you know, a good
29:00
Speaker 2: a good aura about you.
29:01
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you so much.
29:02
Speaker 2: You're good. And you're an old soul. Yes, definitely adult sul.
29:08
Speaker 3: I mean I grew up with you know, my family,
29:12
Speaker 3: My family, for the most part, no one was like
29:15
Speaker 3: my age. Everybody was older, and I take from them,
29:20
Speaker 3: and you know, they had kids, and their kids are
29:23
Speaker 3: obviously a lot younger. So I'm like word in between,
29:28
Speaker 3: like nobody's I can't hang out with the older ones.
29:31
Speaker 4: And they want to go out.
29:32
Speaker 2: So did you did you sit at the kids table
29:34
Speaker 2: or at the adults table?
29:35
Speaker 4: I was at the kids table. I had to be there.
29:39
Speaker 2: You like the referea.
29:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, exactly, that's exactly.
29:43
Speaker 2: Just sit over there. Let them go sit at the
29:44
Speaker 2: kids table. Well, you're not at the kids table anymore.
29:47
Speaker 4: No fun at the kids table. It was.
29:52
Speaker 2: They all like, look, uncle, Justin. They love you, right,
29:55
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're probably a lot of fun with them.
29:58
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, do you have any brother the sisters I have?
30:02
Speaker 3: Actually I have a new younger brother now by the
30:06
Speaker 3: name of Sebastian beautiful. Yeah, but I have a younger
30:10
Speaker 3: brother named Brandon as well. He is twenty four.
30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you see them all the time.
30:17
Speaker 4: Every so often. Well, my the youngest one is nine
30:22
Speaker 4: ten months.
30:23
Speaker 2: Ah, that's so cute.
30:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually I haven't met him yet. You know, my
30:30
Speaker 4: parents aren't necessarily together. My dad lives in Connecticut, and
30:35
Speaker 4: it gets hard trying to just like meet up and whatnot.
30:38
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm excited to meet my brother.
30:42
Speaker 2: So cute. That probably inspire you don't want to get
30:46
Speaker 2: married a baby, have a baby toon.
30:49
Speaker 4: Look, I'm a family man, I'm ready for it.
30:51
Speaker 2: I love it. I love you. Justin so cute, You're adorable.
30:56
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you came on my show today. I
30:59
Speaker 2: had a great time. I love to hear your story.
31:01
Speaker 2: You're amazing. You're amazing, gentlemen.
31:03
Speaker 4: You amazing guy. Welcome.
31:06
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, keep talking, keep talking, You're amazing.
31:09
Speaker 4: Thank you, beautiful. I love your hair.
31:12
Speaker 2: Oh I love it too, but thank you. That's my
31:14
Speaker 2: best ask. That is my hair, one of them anyway,
31:17
Speaker 2: So everybody, thank you so much for tuning into Cats
31:19
Speaker 2: and Pudding. And I want to thank my friend Justin
31:21
Speaker 2: here for being here. And please watch us on on YouTube,
31:25
Speaker 2: Apple and Spotify and watch the whole video, not just
31:28
Speaker 2: this sh one. Have a great day, everybody,