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David Kaplan on the Cubs and Bears Stadium update, Joe O'Donnell previews the Stanley Cup Final & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hour number two, Miller and Condon, welcome back.
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  Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller.
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  We're here with you until the top of the hour.
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  The drive is coming up with Heather and Lucas and Turing
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  Stone of Iowa sponsors our weekly conversation with our
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  friend David Kaplan, ESPN 1000. Cappy's YouTube channel is where
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  you can find him on a daily basis and he's with Miller and
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  Condon on Wednesdays. Hello Capper, How are you?
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  I'm awesome, how are you guys doing?
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  Hope all the listeners are doing well here on Wednesday.
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  Well, they are, and especially they're doing well if they're
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  Cubs fans watching this team night in and night out.
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  So much fun to watch. Cap truly are PCA putting
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  together, I don't know, maybe a an MVP type of season at this
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  point. Certainly he's trending in that
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  direction to at least be in the conversation, but there's so
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  much more. Cap, this team, we both thought,
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  all three of us thought that they would win the division
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  ultimately, they would come out on top in the Central.
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  I didn't know they were going to have this type of record and be
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  this fun to watch. Did you?
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  If you'll remember back, you can pull your tapes.
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  I predicted 91 wins. That was my pick.
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  And seemed high. And there were a lot that's
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  thought that it seemed high. My buddy Yurko on ESPN 1000 and
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  I have $100 wager. He said 83 and so that would
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  make the middle ground. 87 would be a push.
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  And I'll be disappointed if the Cubs only win 87 games.
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  And you should be happy the way the way that they're played.
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  You know, to Ken's point here, just the enjoyment I get out of
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  watching this team. And that's why I think this
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  team, there's still a whole lot more upside.
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  They can beat you in so many different ways offensively.
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  We think that they're going to go out and spend that.
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  There is going to be another arm maybe in the bullpen, another
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  arm in that staff. But offensively, this is
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  different than so many good Cubs teams.
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  We've seen in the past that they relied on the long ball or
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  relied on guys getting on base. They could just beat you so many
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  ways offensively, Cap. Yeah, they put eight runs up
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  yesterday and their fast offensive player didn't play and
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  I don't think he's playing tonight either.
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  And I wouldn't be shocked if he sits out tomorrow's game talking
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  about Kyle Tucker and then get him back for the Detroit series.
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  But we'll see. Yeah, you're right.
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  They can beat you with their legs.
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  They're among the top five stolen base teams.
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  They led for a while in all of baseball.
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  They have power. They've got how many guys that
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  have double digit home runs can beat you with their gloves,
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  especially up the middle with Nico Dansby.
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  PCA and the Catchers have had a really good start to their
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  season and then they can beat you by paper cutting you to
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  death like Nico Horner last night.
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  You know, there's man on and he has a heck of an at bat, and
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  then he shoots one in the right field and drives in two more
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  runs. And that effectively ended the
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  National fan. Yeah, and say, Suzuki having the
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  campaign he he's had, and you mentioned Nico, not that he's
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  going to hit a ton of home runs, but he hasn't left the ballpark.
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  He hasn't hit any. So that's there.
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  And Matt Shaw, cap, since he's come back to the big leagues,
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  any concern about his arm strength?
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  I mean, that's that's out the window.
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  He's playing incredible defense. He's hitting the ball.
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  I mean, this looks like a brilliant move on their part,
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  sending him back down. No question about it.
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  And he deserves a lot of credit for how he A, handled the
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  demotion and then B made the necessary adjustments where, you
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  know, yesterday I saw him rifle a double and then hit another
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  one almost to the exact same spot.
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  And it was a really nice running catch by the outfielder.
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  But Matt Shaw, defensively, you saw third base.
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  Hopefully the offense is with it.
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  It's been eye opening what he's done and we talked about it with
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  you Cap, just watching the work that he was putting in through
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  the eyes of Tommy Birch more than anything.
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  But and it wasn't just with the bat, it was in the field.
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  He was putting in the work every single day to do it.
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  So what Ian Hap did when he was called down here, it says a lot
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  about them. The bullpen, they have had a big
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  step forward. And as Ken's talked about a ton,
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  what you're getting out of the back end now, I think it's
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  sustainable. I mean, a live arm down there
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  and what you're getting in the back end, what they're getting.
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  But of those middle pieces, who's the guy that you still see
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  that you think it's going to be a big contender, a guy in the
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  bullpen, that eighth inning up a run, need a couple of outs.
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  Who's the guy you're most confident in right now in the
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  middle of that bullpen? Brad Keller without a doubt.
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  I give Jed a lot of credit. That was a non roster invite to
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  camp and he even, he said the other day in an interview you
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  would have told me I'm going to throw in 100 miles an hour.
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  I would never have believed it. But the Cubs pitch slab does
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  wonders with a mechanic B spin rate and he is in a perfect role
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  for him. Could you stretch him out and
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  make him a middling starter? That's what he was.
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  Now he comes in and it's good morning, good afternoon and good
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  night. Ryan hit it.
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  How did they get field bar from the twins?
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  Was he cast off? Free.
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  Agent. Free agent.
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  Was he a free agent? OK, so they signed him.
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  Pomerantz was. I mean, he he'd worn out his
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  welcome in Seattle. Pomerantz had not thrown a big
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  league pitch since 2021. Jesus, I didn't know that for
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  how long. Wow.
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  And then Palencia who Trent alluded to at the back, have
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  they found their closer here cap or you still have concerns?
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  I don't have concerns, you just have to keep proving it.
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  Do you know how they got Valencia?
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  No. So they trade Andrew Chaffin,
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  who they roughed up last night, Nationals, they trade him to
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  Oakland in a deal where Oakland was pretty good and they wanted
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  to try and get that, you know, piece in their bullpen.
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  And the Cubs wanted this first base on outfielder named Greg
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  Dykeman, who he never made it with us.
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  And they said, but we're giving you a plug and play reliever,
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  give us a lottery ticket. We'll take that kid right there
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  with the ERA over six who throws 99, 9 and they gave them to him
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  and they've made them into this. You got to give them credit for
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  for what they're doing. Are you now more sold on Craig
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  Council than you were last year? Yes, and you know, it's funny
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  people say to me because I went on, I called my friend Barstool
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  Big Cat one day. This was back in April from
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  Barstool Sports. He answered while he was in the
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  middle of doing his podcast. He's like, oh, caps call, let's
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  put him on. And so I I was calling him about
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  something unrelated. He said give me a couple seconds
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  on the Cubs and I go it's overrated over grossly overpaid
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  manager because the day before he had brought field bar in to
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  face Eugenio Suarez and he got out of a bases loaded jam and
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  then he brought him back and he got roughed up and I'm like,
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  what are you doing? You use the guy, the last thing,
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  why are you bringing him back? To be truthful, I was an angry
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  Cub fan when I was ripping Craig counsel there and I'm glad he's
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  our manager. That guy's just look at how his
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  team play. They run balls out and the
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  infield, they run balls out to 1st.
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  He's doing a great job. Kate Horton got the start last
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  night, gets the win. Horton has now pitched 54 2/3
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  innings on the season. Game plan going forward.
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  Now, he's not exactly had to face the who's who of a Baseball
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  Nationals, Rockies, Marlins, White Sox's first start.
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  It wasn't even a start came against the Mets as he came in
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  after an opener. But with Horton, if he proves
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  that he's going to be a piece that maybe can be your #4
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  starter in the playoffs, what do you have to do?
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  Because there's going to be an innings Max that he's going to
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  hit at some point. What's the game plan with Kate
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  Horton? Well, I think you're exactly
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  right. There is going to be an innings
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  cap that he's going to hit and that's why you're not going to
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  see them, you know, stretch him out no matter how well he's
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  throwing and look up and go, wow, he's got 108 pitches in the
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  8th. That's not going to happen.
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  No chance. I'll be stunned if that
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  happened. They're going to treat him,
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  though, like a big league pitcher on a team that thinks
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  they can win the World Series, and they do.
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  They truly believe they can win the World Series and that
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  they're going to to make moves, and it's incumbent on Tom
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  Ricketts and his family to green light whatever spend Ted Hoyer
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  asked them to spend if the player can help put them over
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  the top. Tom is always maintained.
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  I'm not spending good money on bad.
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  My difference with Tom is I don't think he goes all in at
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  the start of the season. I think he says prove it to me
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  and in July I'll let you spend what you want.
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  Well, that makes it really tough.
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  But his team 16 over. They haven't been 16 over since
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  2016. This team has a chance.
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  The Dodgers have tons of pitching injuries.
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  I'm not telling you you're going to beat the mats, so you're
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  going to beat the Dodger. But guess what?
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  You're good enough to do it. So now if Chris Sale, Nathan
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  Evaldi, Merrill Kelly, Zach Gallon, Jacob degrom, if any of
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  these dudes become available, the money should not factor.
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  If they want too much in Prospect Capital and Jed says
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  no, that's Jed's job, not mine, but the owner.
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  Better green light to spend. Cap, if there is a move to be
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  made with with the same, there will be who's in the most, I
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  guess tenuous spot of losing their spot on this roster. 40
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  year old Justin Turner, Birdie who can fly Bruhan has got some
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  good speed in his own right. Those would be the three, right,
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  that would have to be, you know, kind of maybe not resting as
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  comfortable as they would think they would on a first place
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  team. It would be those three that
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  would be one of those three, Likely the odd man if you have
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  to make a move. Well, you're going to have to
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  replace Reese McGuire at some point when the Gala Maya comes.
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  Back. Yep, Yep.
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  So that that'll happen, we don't know injuries, injuries can
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  happen. We have no idea there.
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  That's one. And then two, I don't know what
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  the cost would be. Let's assume that Texas falls
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  out of it and they say, yeah, we'll trade you Nathan of ALDI
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  because I don't think they're going to move to Grom and his
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  95,000,000 left. But we want and they give you a
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  player off your Major League roster.
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  Or maybe it's a bigger deal. Maybe it is Chris Sale or Jacob
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  degrom or some like, oh God, the Cubs got who and they want a
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  player off your active roster. I mean, there's certain the guys
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  that are untouchable, they're not trading PCA, No, I would be
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  stunned if they ever traded Matt Shaw.
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  But could another deal happen? I guess anything is in play.
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  But the three names you mentioned probably makes sense.
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  I'll be surprised if Justin Turner's moved.
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  I'll be surprised. Because of his clubhouse
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  presence and the been there fact that.
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  Yeah, and they like his right-handed bat.
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  And you know, Michael Bush doesn't really start much
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  against lefties. I haven't seen tonight's lineup
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  yet. Is Michael Bush in the lineup
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  tonight? Seen yet?
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  No. It's a lefty, Mackenzie Gore.
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  Normally he would. He's only hitting 169 against
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  lefties this year, and he may not be in the lineup.
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  Although who's going to be your DH if Justin Turner's place
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  first? Who's the DH if Kyle Tucker
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  isn't in the lineup? Yeah, it's a great point because
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  Suzuki's going to be up in the off field.
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  Right. Yeah, maybe it'd be one of the
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  whoever's not catching. Boy, you only got 2 catchers.
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  I know it. That's awfully thin.
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  It's. Chancy.
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  To do that, I don't. I would be surprised.
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  I will bet the Michael Bush is playing tonight.
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  That's my thought. Speaking of that, who is the
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  emergency catcher if it would ever get to that?
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  I think it's John Birdie. Is it OK?
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  That's what I've heard, I think. Birdie saw it, I don't know,
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  probably 15 years ago with my tea, the Twins.
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  And it's just one of those weird things you never think of until
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  it pops up and then it does. Hey, we just had a caller call
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  in Cappy. We're talking about guys off the
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  radar. What about Trevor Bauer?
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  Would the Cubs roll the dust? Absolutely zero chance.
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  Zero chance. Zero.
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  Like, talk to people from the Dodgers, the, the, you know,
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  whatever accusations and suspension, all that.
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  Let's say that none of that ever happened.
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  I know for a fact, because I had a player tell me Dodgers players
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  went to management and said under no circumstance do we want
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  that guy in our clubhouse another day ever.
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  That's how much they despised him as a teammate, So I'll pass.
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  When you when you think back, I mean, Aroldis Chapman in his
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  baggage, he was with the with the Cubs, obviously during that
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  World Series run. They I'm guessing, yeah, they
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  won the World Series. So that covered up a lot of the
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  ill will that seemingly might have come their way.
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  Would that factor into it, Cap? Just the fact that, you know,
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  they had to Bob. Chapman.
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  Yeah, they had to get some blowback when he was on the
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  roster, I would think. Yeah, I mean, they did when they
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  first brought him in. And then, you know, people are
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  such phonies because I'm talking about fans, all of us.
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  People can be phony. And I remember the day he was
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  traded for Cubs are playing at Guaranteed Rate.
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  That's what they used to call it against the White Sox.
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  And they asked, you know, the media asked a question to a guy
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  who literally at that point spoke 0 English, I mean, zero.
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  And what was your phone call like with Mr. Ricketts?
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  And I don't know, I was asleep above.
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  And now he's getting blasted by the Chicago media.
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  Poor guy had no idea about the question.
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  And he's he's just lost. So the late Pedro Gomez is
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  standing next to me. He's like, all right, I got to
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  rescue this poor guy. And Pedro Gomez, God rest his
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  soul, went up and interviewed him in Spanish and cleared
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  everything up and it all went away.
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  And then all these people that were calling into radio shows
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  like mine can't believe we acquired this guy's a horrible
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  human, blah blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  And then there's 41,000 at Wrigley and everyone standing
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  there in the 9th inning, his first game at Wrigley Field,
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  holding their phones, filming everyone's fearing and
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  screaming. That's fine.
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  If you don't think he should be on the team, then don't be these
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  front runners that now that he's there and he's really good, now
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  you're on board. Come on.
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  No. I see the Tigers, they've
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  knowing that that series coming up this weekend, they've changed
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  their rotation. So Scuba will face the Cubs on
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  Friday. Yeah, that kind of speaks
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  volumes, right? Yeah, Scuba's really good.
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  I'll. Say.
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  So many Cubs, Yeah. So you get a guy who's a side
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  defending Cy Young winner, who's really, really good, and they
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  have the best record. As you and I and Trent are
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  having this interview right now, the best, winningest team in
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  baseball are the Detroit Tigers against the Chicago Cubs, who
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  are 16 over and have the best record in the National League.
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  I'm pretty surprised Sunday Night Baseball didn't say, you
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  know what, we've seen enough Yankees and Red Sox.
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  Let's put the Cubs and Tigers there.
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  That that would make perfect. People, the Midwest would
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  certainly enjoy that, but fortunately not going to get it.
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  Well, are we going to get a new stadium in Chicago for the Bears
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  or what? Another wall this week that has
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  put up. It just it feels like it's one
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  thing after another and I lose track cap of of as the stadium
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  terms, if you will. It seems like there's just
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  roadblock after roadblock as they try to figure this thing
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  out. We are going to get a stadium.
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  It's going to be in Arlington Heights.
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  I told you guys that. From the jump.
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  Year or more. Look, they investigated the
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  city. They used the city as a power
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  play. The mayor of the city of Chicago
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  is horrible and he won't be here much longer.
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  They have no juice to be able to get public financing.
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  They will get something done and it will be in Arlington Heights
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  and it will be glorious. Cap, I want to ask you about
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  because you have a relationship with Tom Thibodeau, memory
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  serves of his time in Chicago. He's a good friend.
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  Yeah. Did you reach out to him?
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  Will you at some point point here?
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  I texted him I have not heard back yet so we'll see.
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  Shocking, right? I mean, I was surprised.
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  Were you? Was I?
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  I'm surprised because they went to the Eastern Conference
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  finals. Not surprised because and I love
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  Tips and if I own the team, I would want Tips to coach my
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  team. But he's not for everybody now.
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  I mean, his idea of a perfect day in the offseason is to go
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  eat a great meal and then go watch five hours of basketball
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  film. That's what that's who he is,
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  Yeah. I know, he said.
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  That he once said, I was engaged in six weeks before the wedding,
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  I went, I can't do this. That's not who I am.
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  Never had kids, never had a wife.
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  His mistress, his wife. His love is basketball, period.
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  And there's nothing wrong with that.
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  That's how he chose to live his life.
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  Well, the problem is not everybody that is on your team
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  embraces that same philosophy. There are other things in the
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  world other than just basketball.
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  For him, that's not where it is. I mean, guys made well over $100
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  million. It's not money that drives him.
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  He loves constructing A-Team. I love the dude.
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  I think he's great, but he's not for everybody.
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  The Chicago Fire, I don't believe have ever come up in our
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  conversations with you and me, Kathy, dating back a decade,
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  with Ken even longer than that. I'm going to guess it didn't
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  come up 3. Decades.
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  Their owner, though, is putting up privately funding a $650
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  million stadium in the South Loop.
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  That's got to be good for Chicago, right?
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  To get a stadium and nobody has to foot the bill.
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  Yeah, Joe Mansueto, he is a wealthy dude, obviously.
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  And he said I'm going to build a stadium for my team and happy to
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  do it. There's still room to put the
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  White Sox stadium there. There is, but it would be, you
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  know, they would jam in two stadiums in that parcel.
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  And if I'm him, if the government pays for Jerry
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  Stadium, I'll be like, whoa, whoa, hold on a second.
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  I'm privately funding mine and you're going to pay for his.
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  I will be surprised if the White Sox get a fully funded by the
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  Cat taxpayer Stadium yet again. I don't believe that's going to
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  happen and I don't think it should happen.
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  I think they could ask for some infrastructure.
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  Like I've said on the Bears, you had a Wyden, Interstate 90 or
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  Euclid Ave. where you get off, or Route 50, state Route 53,
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  well, that's going to benefit the region.
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  But the stadium itself, where I'm selling tickets and signs
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  and everything else, I'm not paying my tax dollars.
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  And I love sports as much as any human alive.
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  I am not paying my tax dollars to enrich a billionaire.
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  Not doing it. Cap will get you out of here on
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  this and you were very generous with your time as you always
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  are. OTA's for the bears of this
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  week. A big storyline was what?
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  Body language, which I I said on my radio show this morning,
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  whatever I'll see you in September.
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  I don't care about body language.
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  But he did tell Caleb Williams no more am I going to see you
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  slumped on the bench because it does not going your way.
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  DJ Moore spoke yesterday and said yeah once and he jumped my
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  you know what, Ben Johnson and no more body language issues.
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  And if he does then said I will crack him immediately if I see
• 20:19
  bad body language palms up, that's just in his words, a sign
• 20:24
  of. Of weakness, he said.
• 20:25
  I'm not going to tolerate it on my football team.
• 20:27
  And DJ Moore needs to learn Luther Burden's name.
• 20:29
  That was one of my others because he couldn't think of the
• 20:31
  kids name that they. Drafted.
• 20:32
  He's like, yeah, who's that kid we got yet?
• 20:35
  But like, we lock in on the draft.
• 20:37
  I can tell you the current players, yeah, right.
• 20:39
  They don't pay attention. They're not locked in like that.
• 20:42
  It's a job to them. Yeah, I get it.
• 20:44
  And to us too. That's why we're locked in
• 20:45
  Capra. Great stuff, buddy.
• 20:46
  As always. Thank you, pal.
• 20:48
  We'll talk to you in seven days. See Buddy.
• 20:49
  Look forward to it. Good to talk to you, David
• 20:52
  Kaplan as we catch up on the cap man.
• 20:54
  You remember when he when he hated council.
• 20:58
  Likes him now, of course. Funny how that works.
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  of the Minnesota Wild, joins Trent and I next Stanley Cup
• 21:48
  game one tonight. We'll preview it next, Miller
• 21:50
  and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 22:14
  Hi, Mallory Condon, welcome back.
• 22:16
  It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network and probably the last
• 22:18
  time we'll hear it from Old Stomp and Tom Connors for the
• 22:21
  next few. Months the clips of this this
• 22:24
  video that I've played it off of YouTube because it does not make
• 22:27
  our music list here Imagine that yes, but just watching the old
• 22:31
  hockey highlights from like this probably sixties 70 something
• 22:34
  like that have you? Seen the the TNT and ESPN both
• 22:37
  used the lead in with all the old Stanley Cup.
• 22:40
  Oh no, they're in the locker room.
• 22:42
  Joe Donald, the radio voice of the Minnesota while Joe do you
• 22:45
  know what I'm talking about TNT and ESPN using that intro with
• 22:49
  the Rashards are part of it and Gretzky and some of the some of
• 22:52
  the greats and then some of the here and now teams.
• 22:55
  Do you know what I'm talking about Joe?
• 22:56
  Have you seen it this offseason? I have not.
• 23:00
  I saw an older one from gosh a couple of years back that had
• 23:05
  some of those graphics. I think that was an NHL produced
• 23:08
  one for like the NHL Network and such where they have some of the
• 23:12
  old Canadians players and stuff. And I just saw on on the Twitter
• 23:16
  machine there. I'm kind of like AI don't know
• 23:21
  the little origami, like arts and crafts like kind of piece
• 23:26
  that they did where like the paper unfolds and it's one guy
• 23:29
  holding the cup and then the paper crumbles up and then it's
• 23:32
  Ovechkin. And it's more from like the last
• 23:34
  probably 15 or so years, a couple winners.
• 23:37
  And that was whoever did that is way more creative and
• 23:40
  technologically savvy than anybody on this call right now.
• 23:44
  And it was really cool. I mean, some of the stuff they
• 23:46
  come up with today is is awesome from a nostalgia purpose and
• 23:49
  then just the technology is unbelievable.
• 23:51
  Yeah, no doubt about it. Joe.
• 23:53
  Donald mentioned voice of the radio, voice of the Minnesota
• 23:55
  while joining Trenton, as he has throughout the playoffs.
• 23:58
  Joe. Well, we're down to two.
• 24:00
  I'm surprised Edmonton is favored.
• 24:02
  I'll start there. Florida meaning that they have
• 24:04
  AI. Think a huge edge between the
• 24:06
  pipes. I loved what they did leading
• 24:08
  into the trade deadline, picking up both Seth Jones and the
• 24:12
  Bruins captain Brad Marshawn. I'm surprised Edmonton is
• 24:16
  favored. How about you?
• 24:18
  When I saw tonight in game one alone that Edmonton was favored,
• 24:21
  I was kind of surprised, Kenny. So I think I'll agree with you
• 24:25
  there just on a series perspective as well.
• 24:29
  Look, I thought Carolina had a chance when I talked with you
• 24:31
  guys to maybe steal game one because Florida had played so
• 24:35
  recently after their seven game series against Toronto.
• 24:38
  And I thought of Carolina got game 1A game a chance.
• 24:40
  They had no chance in that series.
• 24:43
  And then Edmonton, I thought Dallas had the edge in net with
• 24:46
  Ottinger and the Dallas would probably prevail in the series.
• 24:49
  And obviously I was dead wrong there.
• 24:50
  So these two teams have proven why they're here.
• 24:54
  I think that's what stands out the most to me, the experience
• 24:57
  factor of both teams and just hearing, you know, Conor McDavid
• 25:01
  talk the other day that, you know, last year for the Oilers
• 25:07
  was a like a roller coaster right here, he said.
• 25:11
  They haven't really endured the highs and the lows throughout
• 25:13
  the season, throughout the playoffs, and I feel like that
• 25:16
  experience factor is going to bode really well for them in the
• 25:19
  rematch here. When we look at an organization
• 25:22
  like Florida, which was a laughing stock for a very long
• 25:25
  time in this league, and now third straight cup and going
• 25:28
  from back-to-back, what does that say to the other 31 teams
• 25:32
  of yeah, you can build it now in Sunrise, FL, you can build it in
• 25:35
  that market. What does it say to the rest of
• 25:37
  the league? Is there, is there a bit of a
• 25:39
  blueprint you can take away from what Florida has done recently?
• 25:43
  I mean, that's a great question, Trent, because as we know, all
• 25:46
  these sports leagues are copycat leagues, right?
• 25:48
  Like if you if you're a team that has found sort of a recipe
• 25:54
  for immediate success, success that gives you some sustained
• 25:58
  runs in the playoffs over 345 years.
• 26:01
  And you know, a lot of times other teams will try to mimic
• 26:04
  it. However, what I think what
• 26:06
  Florida has done here has just been a really good job of
• 26:10
  building a team concept. They have so much depth.
• 26:14
  They have guys that most fans watching tonight's game have
• 26:16
  never heard of. And they're huge pieces of that
• 26:19
  franchise and what they're trying to do.
• 26:22
  They really believe in a team game.
• 26:24
  They really play the, you know, they're kind of machine like in
• 26:26
  a lot of ways, the way they come at you and waves, the way they
• 26:29
  can beat you with their fourth line one night and their top
• 26:32
  line the next night. They're not going to wow you
• 26:34
  with unbelievable skill. So I think it's it's kind of
• 26:38
  hard to mimic what Florida has done.
• 26:40
  They've developed really well. In fact, they're AHL team.
• 26:43
  The Charlotte Checkers are headed to the Calder Cup Final
• 26:47
  now. They could be the first team
• 26:49
  since 9495 to win both Cups at the NHL and NHL level.
• 26:53
  So what they've got going on right now in Florida is
• 26:55
  something special. I'm sure other teams will try to
• 26:57
  mimic it. I think it's just going to be
• 26:59
  tough to do. Do you put any credence into the
• 27:02
  fact that, and I know that biz nasty he was, he put this out
• 27:07
  there, took some criticism. I kind of buy what he's saying
• 27:10
  when it comes to, you know, living in states that don't have
• 27:15
  a state tax like a Florida, like a Vegas who won Cup, like a
• 27:20
  state of Texas that don't have state tax.
• 27:22
  Do you put anything into that? Is biz on to something do you
• 27:25
  think? No, I think so for sure.
• 27:27
  I mean, just look at what a disadvantage of Canadian markets
• 27:31
  are at, you know, from a number of factors, right.
• 27:35
  We don't have to get into all of them.
• 27:36
  But you know, in some ways, like if they have a harder time,
• 27:39
  they're they're playing on a different field than than the
• 27:42
  American teams are from a cap perspective.
• 27:45
  So yeah, certainly, look, you get the nice weather, you get
• 27:48
  the, you get the no state tax, which means you're pocketing a
• 27:53
  couple more $1,000,000, you know, depending on your salary
• 27:56
  per year or over the term of the contract, depending on how you
• 27:59
  want to look at it. So I think there's a lot to it.
• 28:02
  I just know from being in Houston before the team moved to
• 28:05
  Iowa, guys love living in Houston during hockey season in
• 28:09
  the summers. They bolted, you know, and a lot
• 28:11
  of these NHL players, they want to live in Fort Lauderdale all
• 28:15
  year round. They can if they want to go back
• 28:16
  to their their home or their home base in the summer and just
• 28:20
  spend their winters playing hockey in Tampa or Fort
• 28:22
  Lauderdale. Like there's something to be
• 28:24
  said for that. I really do believe that in the
• 28:26
  free agency game in particular, and these teams are having
• 28:30
  success. Like if I'm a if I'm a free
• 28:32
  agent, I'm looking, hey, I want to be a winner.
• 28:34
  I want somewhere my family will be happy.
• 28:37
  Nice area. Like no offense to a Columbus or
• 28:40
  a Detroit, but like, where are you going?
• 28:42
  Right? Like it.
• 28:45
  There's not a whole lot else that really probably needs to go
• 28:47
  on the conversation. No.
• 28:49
  Or if you want to go north or Winnipeg, because it is, you
• 28:52
  know, you've been there a number of times, don't have to tell you
• 28:55
  what it's like. Hey, I want to ask you this
• 28:57
  about Rodgers Place in Edmonton. I heard Sean McDonough, In fact,
• 29:00
  I've heard a couple of of broadcasters throughout these
• 29:03
  playoffs say it's such a special environment that it really is as
• 29:06
  good of an arena as there is in the NHL.
• 29:10
  On your trips into Rodgers Place, did you find, were you
• 29:13
  maybe not blown away, but did you think, wow, this is a really
• 29:15
  cool place? Obviously I love the way they do
• 29:18
  the anthem there with letting the crowd take over, but is it
• 29:21
  a, from your perspective, a pretty good arena?
• 29:25
  Yes, there's a lot of things that make that a really special
• 29:29
  building and atmosphere, but from a broadcast perspective,
• 29:33
  the radio guys, we might as well be in Calgary calling the.
• 29:37
  We are. Now the TV side they put down in
• 29:41
  the 100 level in the camera base, which a lot of buildings
• 29:45
  are starting to do now with their TV broadcasters.
• 29:47
  But from a like Doug plague into the colleague of mine and
• 29:52
  actually replaced me in Boise, ID 20 some years ago.
• 29:55
  He's with the Panthers. He's been with them for a number
• 29:57
  of years now. Unless they're doing something
• 30:00
  special for him in the Stanley Cup Final, he's going to be so
• 30:02
  high up and so far back from the ice surface that I feel bad for
• 30:06
  him. I hope he's got his vision
• 30:08
  checked recently. So it's it doesn't have great
• 30:11
  sight lines from a radio broadcast perspective, but the
• 30:14
  building gets absolutely jumping.
• 30:18
  You know, it's it is an electric wild have had great deaths in
• 30:22
  that building and since I've been here.
• 30:24
  So that's kind of been fun to go up there and quiet that crowd.
• 30:26
  But I can see why, you know, it's definitely going to have a
• 30:29
  better atmosphere than than the building in Sunrise.
• 30:32
  I can tell you that much. It looks to be another tight
• 30:35
  series here. I think both you guys leading
• 30:37
  Florida's wave. Palm barista, obviously a great
• 30:40
  coach there. How about Chris now Block though
• 30:42
  on the other side, down to nothing to the Kings goalies.
• 30:45
  Skinner in, Skinner out, back and forth, the job that he has
• 30:48
  done. How big is the gap between
• 30:50
  Maurice and Nablock? That's a great question, Trent.
• 30:54
  And I would say that Maurice has the upper hand, but I would say
• 30:57
  both guys steady the shift very well.
• 31:00
  They don't seem to get overly worked up on the bench.
• 31:03
  They don't seem to be, you know, in the officials ears where it's
• 31:07
  distracting for their players. They they kind of tactically and
• 31:10
  methodically managing things back there.
• 31:14
  And I think Chris Knoblauch coming in is sort of a relative
• 31:17
  unknown coming from the American Hockey League.
• 31:21
  You know, mid season last year, he got thrust into a pressure
• 31:24
  pack situation. A team that was in win now mode
• 31:27
  dives into the final a year ago down to nothing in the first
• 31:31
  round here. They caught a bit of a break
• 31:33
  with the Kings kind of fumbling away that series.
• 31:35
  But now they're 12 and two cents and they're on an absolute role.
• 31:38
  So I really believe that, you know, the coaching matchup isn't
• 31:42
  a huge advantage, but you got to give the getting it done last
• 31:47
  year. Joe O'Donnell, radio voice of
• 31:49
  the Minnesota Wild. Joe, enjoy the rest of your
• 31:52
  summer, whatever that entails. I'm sure you'll have some plenty
• 31:55
  of duties going around the state, etcetera, you know, with
• 31:59
  the publicity tours, those type of things.
• 32:01
  But love the relationship. Joe, thanks for popping on and
• 32:05
  remembering your time here in Des Moines.
• 32:06
  We sure appreciate it. Thanks Joe O'Donnell, have a
• 32:08
  good summer. Yeah, thanks guys.
• 32:10
  Everybody enjoy the Stanley Cup final.
• 32:12
  I do hope Edmonton gets it done, but I really think we're in, you
• 32:16
  know, set up for a classic series of six or seven games and
• 32:19
  I love the revenge factor for both sides at the stake.
• 32:21
  It's. Going to be great.
• 32:22
  Thank you, Joe Appreciate it, buddy.
• 32:24
  Yep, going to take take care, Joe O'Donnell.
• 32:26
  The Minnesota Wild kind of feel the same way.
• 32:32
  Look, the best player in the game usually wins the Stanley
• 32:35
  Cup at some point in their career.
• 32:37
  It just is a fact. How old is he?
• 32:40
  You know, that's a good question.
• 32:41
  Early 30s. Is he that old?
• 32:43
  Late. Yeah, I think he's probably
• 32:45
  right around 30. See, I would have thought that
• 32:47
  he is like 28. When was his draft year 2000 and
• 32:52
  what? Let's see.
• 32:53
  Click on Connor McDavid Wikipedia.
• 32:56
  He's 28. See, I had that.
• 32:58
  You nailed it. Well, Mr. Hockey over here,
• 33:00
  right? The the real hockey fan, John
• 33:03
  Condon. Let's see.
• 33:05
  Born in 1997. That makes me feel old that that
• 33:08
  that 2015 is when he was drafted.
• 33:11
  And #2 was a kid by the name of Jack Eichel, who is now with the
• 33:15
  was drafted by the Sabres and now is a Vegas Golden Knight in
• 33:19
  that draft. Obviously I want Edmonton.
• 33:24
  I think Florida's going to. Win on Edmonton, think Florida's
• 33:28
  going to win. We saw the three O deficit
• 33:30
  erased. Yep, last year.
• 33:32
  Last year. Yep, from a betting perspective,
• 33:35
  I win whoever wins. You're good there, so it's not
• 33:38
  anything. There's one of the years I
• 33:39
  played the futures. Properly So what does tip the
• 33:41
  scales? What is the one thing that you
• 33:44
  say this? Oh, this is the reason. 97 It's
• 33:49
  that Connor McDavid, the best player.
• 33:52
  He's the best player. Florida has a big edge between
• 33:56
  the pipes. Boboski's just better than
• 33:58
  Skinner. It was a great question about
• 34:01
  coaching Paul Maurice, and maybe by an inch.
• 34:04
  But not as big of a gap as I think because I'll be honest, I
• 34:08
  didn't know who Nabluck was until this playoffs began.
• 34:09
  And then when he started playing around with Skinner, I'm like,
• 34:12
  what's going on here? Pushing the right buttons.
• 34:14
  But he has been so not as big of a gap there.
• 34:18
  Defensively, Florida's got a big advantage and then they got a
• 34:21
  big advantage. Goalkeeping.
• 34:23
  I played just on it's own. I just played the Panthers.
• 34:26
  I jumped on it was plus. Plus money.
• 34:28
  Plus 1/12 at Circa. Which is a surprise.
• 34:31
  I am shocked that they're not the favorite.
• 34:34
  I thought they would. That'd be close, but I thought
• 34:37
  that they would be the favorite. Well, think of this, how often
• 34:40
  do we talk or were even when we're in Vegas, the number of
• 34:43
  Canadians that are there bar Canada at the D, how many
• 34:48
  Florida Panther fans are making their way to put down?
• 34:51
  Yeah, we're not talking life changing money, but those $5000
• 34:56
  tickets they stick stack up after a while.
• 34:59
  And how many of those in comparison to what you have?
• 35:02
  I can understand why Edmonton probably is getting a majority
• 35:05
  of the money because, well, just general hockey fans.
• 35:07
  We can report the Canadian team or the team out of Sunrise, FL.
• 35:11
  He was a laughing stock for the longest time.
• 35:13
  Often is not the. Case I remember some of those
• 35:15
  pictures of that arena. I was there once and there was
• 35:18
  like it. It looked like a what are the
• 35:21
  Miami Marlins of the Florida Marlins this year?
• 35:24
  It looked like a Marlins home game, right?
• 35:27
  Or the Twins in April when there was nobody there.
• 35:30
  It was just it was embarrassing. Not the case anymore.
• 35:33
  That's what winning will do. We'll take a time out.
• 35:35
  Trent's been winning. You better be against Paul
• 35:37
  Skeens. Yesterday, that was.
• 35:39
  I thought you were out of your mind.
• 35:40
  Yeah, I know you did. I saw your face.
• 35:42
  It was a good hit. 3 and 1 yesterday.
• 35:45
  By the way, did the Rockies sweep the series?
• 35:48
  That game was in the 9th. Inning it was 3.
• 35:50
  Nothing. Last I checked, it's.
• 35:51
  Over they won. They swept the fish.
• 35:53
  What's the kind of Rockies? That you could have got the
• 35:56
  Rockies even against the God forsaken bar.
• 35:58
  Sweep a series. Sweep Huge.
• 36:01
  Huge. What could have been?
• 36:04
  They swept the barn. Where do the Rockies go next?
• 36:07
  I'm going to check Trent because all of a sudden this Rockies
• 36:10
  team is on a roll red hot. They the red hot Colorado
• 36:14
  Rockies come home to face the New York Mets and then San
• 36:18
  Francisco in that Atlanta. Not a lot of winning coming up,
• 36:22
  but they that they won this series.
• 36:23
  I didn't know if they were going to win three games in the month.
• 36:26
  No, that's one with you. That's what they won in Maine.
• 36:28
  Remember, Scheffler won 3 events.
• 36:32
  The Rockies won three games. They've won three straight as of
• 36:35
  their win today in Miami. Miller and Condon Trent's plays
• 36:39
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• 36:45
  Radio Network. My final couple of minutes here
• 36:49
  on a Wednesday. The drive coming up next,
• 36:51
  Heather and Lucas, they join at the top of the hour and take you
• 36:55
  until 5:00. Well, plenty of baseball, I
• 37:00
  think only two day games underway right now, but so the
• 37:03
  majority under the lights tonight.
• 37:04
  Course it got a hockey game. No WNB.
• 37:07
  Hey, the Fever 1 yesterday. They did.
• 37:09
  How about that? Got it done minus Caitlin.
• 37:13
  Now we wait for Saturday, where Don Staley will be in the
• 37:18
  studio. Will she?
• 37:19
  For the national big CBSKCCI locally KGAN in eastern Iowa N
• 37:26
  Iowa, KIMT in western Iowa. You don't have it.
• 37:31
  You were on a real roll there. I was really impressed.
• 37:34
  I just read something about Don Staley, the the toughest loss of
• 37:37
  her career. General it was.
• 37:39
  I was there for it. You were.
• 37:40
  It was in Dallas. Yeah, Caitlin triple doubled
• 37:43
  her. That took a while, she said to
• 37:45
  In fact, she's still not apparently over it.
• 37:47
  Well, we can tell there's kind of sticks in her craw a little.
• 37:50
  Bit yeah, although the next year when they came back and won it
• 37:53
  though, she couldn't, you know, stole any more praise, as she
• 37:58
  should have anyway. So what are you betting on?
• 38:01
  I'm going to bet on baseball. There is in fact no WNBA at all
• 38:04
  tonight. No.
• 38:05
  So they are completely off until tomorrow as the Commissioners
• 38:09
  Cup continues. Maybe, I don't know.
• 38:11
  I don't know how that thing works.
• 38:13
  It doesn't feel like it's resonating at a very high level.
• 38:16
  We have two plays, one this early evening, the Astros -124.
• 38:22
  Again. Yeah.
• 38:24
  It's Burroughs that gets a start for the Pirates, says the RA.
• 38:27
  Well, it's under 9. Oh, so it's headed in the right
• 38:30
  direction. 8.64 You know, on the other side, Gusto hasn't been
• 38:33
  great himself. Still, the Astros, a much better
• 38:36
  team -124 will jump aboard on that one.
• 38:39
  Talked about the ineptitude of the Oakland.
• 38:41
  Nope, the no, just the Athletics.
• 38:44
  We're going to play them. Against Zebby Matthews.
• 38:48
  Zebby Matthews is not there yet. A lefty in Springs who's been OK
• 38:52
  now he is not listed officially, at least when I was looking
• 38:55
  earlier today as the starter. I put this in as Springs only
• 38:59
  start. If somebody else gets a start,
• 39:01
  my bet will be void. That is something that you can
• 39:03
  do. You can bet, and I did that with
• 39:06
  this one. So if Springs is not there, he
• 39:08
  will not be part of the bet. The losing streak comes to an
• 39:11
  end. Oakland, Nope.
• 39:13
  Sacramento, Nope. The Athletics 171.
• 39:17
  Good stuff. That's going to do it for us.
• 39:18
  I appreciate you being with us. The drive is coming up next.
• 39:22
  They'll take you until 5:00. We're Miller and Condon.
• 39:24
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• 39:27
  until 2 on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.