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Red Sox talk w/Jonathan Papelbon: Crochet shoves, Young bats star · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Here we go, Pap, great to see you. It's time, man,
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: all the fake games are done. It's time for real baseball. Baby,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: let's do this Happy opening week to you. How you
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: doing and what are your expectations for the season here? Like,
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  Speaker 1: did you see the ABS challenges floating left and right
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  Speaker 1: and wish that you had those when you were pitching?
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  Speaker 2: Well? First off was Hattening boys phrase, cratsy, what's happening? Man?
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  Speaker 2: I do not wish the ABS was in affair because
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  Speaker 2: I'll probably be challenging everything because I wanted every pitch
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  Speaker 2: to go my way. But you know, for me, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna change a little bit of the landscape of the
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: betting world here. You know, I think this is advantage
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  Speaker 2: to the hitters a little bit more to the pitcher,
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  Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna start seeing some more runs
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  Speaker 2: come across the plate this year than we did last year.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna wait and see what happens. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna start tending to some of these overs a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. But I do like it. I think it
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  Speaker 2: does give the umpires some kind of check, you know,
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  Speaker 2: checks and balances for him. So we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the year, but so far I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can confirm, and I'm gonna talk this whole
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  Speaker 3: time without blinking, so that you know what it looked
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  Speaker 3: like to catch Jonathan papplebond in the ninth inning. I
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  Speaker 3: can confirm that he was not going to get that
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  Speaker 3: correct and I did blink there. Pap didn't blink the
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  Speaker 3: entire ninth inning, and he would not blink during his
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  Speaker 3: postgame interviews. He was not the guy to challenge because
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  Speaker 3: he was just sitting there. Yeah, you didn't miss a lot,
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  Speaker 3: but you didn't blink either, So no, we couldn't give
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  Speaker 3: you the ABS challenge system.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. I mean for me though, it
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  Speaker 2: all boils down to, you know, the hitters being able
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  Speaker 2: to have an opportunity to challenge. I think the hitters
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  Speaker 2: have a better view at balls at the plate, so
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  Speaker 2: the advantages for the hitters. But you know, at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, you know you looked at yesterday's Red Sox game,
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  Speaker 2: I think the advantage was to the Red Sox, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in that big inning when they were able to make
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  Speaker 2: that big challenge. So we'll see some interesting games this
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  Speaker 2: year for sure because of it.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's let's jump right into the game here.
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  Speaker 5: Garrett Crochet had a awesome start, got out of a
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  Speaker 5: big gem there in one of the innings, striking out
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  Speaker 5: me and Gene and getting the next batter out to
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  Speaker 5: it to strike out. Spring training didn't look good, and
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  Speaker 5: I hope people understand that spring training is there for
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  Speaker 5: reasons so people can get work. We're not worried about that.
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  Speaker 5: He comes out, shoves, does what he does best, sing
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  Speaker 5: sending eight.
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  Speaker 4: K's over three heads.
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  Speaker 5: Talk a little about his performance and him being the
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  Speaker 5: ace again for the Socks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fraise. This man has been needed in Boston for
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  Speaker 2: a while now. They've been missing that ace, and last
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  Speaker 2: year he came along and and you know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: difference between a bona fide ace and someone that's trying
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  Speaker 2: to be an ace. This guy's a bona fide ace.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that I saw yesterday from
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  Speaker 2: his performance was he was able to get out of
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  Speaker 2: some big jams, whereas before, you know, those big jams
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  Speaker 2: tend to tend to roll over on them. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: for me, I love seeing that. I love seeing him
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  Speaker 2: be able to get out of the jams. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was throwing his cutter to get out of his jams.
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  Speaker 2: Well this year, this free training, you know, he's he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to throw this split finger a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: He's starting to kind of tweak his his split finger
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more instead of a true change up.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm not sure exactly how he's throwing it, but
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  Speaker 2: I'll find out come open the day in Boston. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna find out how he's throwing it. Because I threw
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  Speaker 2: my split as a true two seam split. But I
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  Speaker 2: think that if Garrett Crochet can add a split finger
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  Speaker 2: or some sort of a split to his repertoire, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna take him to the moon. Man. He this Everything
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  Speaker 2: he throws is hard, right, And I think when a
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  Speaker 2: hitter gets in the box they can they can put
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  Speaker 2: it into one gear and kind of think, okay, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna see everything hard. But when a hitter has to
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  Speaker 2: sit there and say, oh wait, I have to change
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  Speaker 2: gears for a ten mile an hour pitch or difference
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  Speaker 2: between a ten mile an hour pitch, that makes it
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  Speaker 2: a lot harder. So I'm looking for him to dominate
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  Speaker 2: this year. I should have taken him from my cy
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  Speaker 2: young candidate this year for the ft bets for within
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  Speaker 2: the company, but I didn't. I took pauls Keens. So
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  Speaker 2: that's not looking too good so far. But I'm really
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  Speaker 2: excited to watch this guy dominate this year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you can take Paul Skeens and Crochet. I took
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  Speaker 3: Paul Skins and Crochet because you had the NL and AL,
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  Speaker 3: so you clearly went that. You clearly went scooball in Ao,
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  Speaker 3: you're such a chalk, You're you're so chop. But what
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  Speaker 3: is that What does that pitch need to look like
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  Speaker 3: for for fans to say, Okay, this change up splitter,
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  Speaker 3: whichever whichever he's gonna call it, What does that velocity
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  Speaker 3: change need to be? Because I completely agree. I think
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  Speaker 3: he throws everything just so freaking hard and if you
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  Speaker 3: can just square it up, you'll be able, you'll be
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  Speaker 3: making able to make contact. But we're talking about a
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  Speaker 3: guy who's going from like a number one to like
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  Speaker 3: an ace like not that he's washed to like a
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  Speaker 3: number one. What does that is that splitter need to
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  Speaker 3: look like early in the season for him to trust it,
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  Speaker 3: Because that's the biggest thing is pitchers don't trust their
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  Speaker 3: new or their pitches that they're throwing a different way
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  Speaker 3: coming into a new season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first of all, I think he has to
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  Speaker 2: start throwing it in situations that matter and gain that
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  Speaker 2: confidence in it, you know. But for me, there has
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  Speaker 2: to be an eight to ten mile an hour difference.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, from from Cratzy to Vertec, to choose
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  Speaker 2: to any any one of my catchers, I used to
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  Speaker 2: tell them, you know, make sure that I throw my
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  Speaker 2: change up with some velocity that has less than what
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  Speaker 2: my fastball does, so because I wanted to look like
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  Speaker 2: my fastball. But you know, I think at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, if he stays between that eight to
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  Speaker 2: ten mile an hour range difference, he'll be good. But
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  Speaker 2: that's the key is for him to start throwing it
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  Speaker 2: in situations that matter, and the catchers sometimes are gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to make him throw it in situations where you know,
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  Speaker 2: the catcher may know it's the right pitch to throw there,
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  Speaker 2: but he may not have confidence in it. But let's
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  Speaker 2: build a confidence in it and make him throw in
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  Speaker 2: situations where it matters, and he can gain more confidence
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  Speaker 2: in that pitch. And I think that if he does that,
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  Speaker 2: shoot Man, by all Star break, he should be cooking.
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• 8:18
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about some hitters here.
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  Speaker 5: Roman Anthony came up absolutely clutched three for four yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: This is the name I feel like we're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: talking about for.
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  Speaker 5: A long time, go over his day and what you
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  Speaker 5: expect to see from him this year.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think number one, as you look at this
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  Speaker 2: kid and he's not a rookie anymore. He is a
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  Speaker 2: proven veteran and goes about his business like a veteran.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the WBC for him was a huge
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  Speaker 2: step forward facing all the great pitching that he saw
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  Speaker 2: on the WBC and had a phenomenal WBC at that.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, we talk a lot in Boston about
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  Speaker 2: his plate discipline, and that's gonna have to continue. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's one of the best guys in our lineup
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  Speaker 2: that has plate discipline. And for me as a pitcher,
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  Speaker 2: whenever I saw a hitter that had great plate discipline,
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  Speaker 2: I always knew that I have my work cut out
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  Speaker 2: for me and meaning that I had to come with
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  Speaker 2: my best game in order to beat him. So I
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  Speaker 2: think that has to continue. But secondly, I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is a man child. I mean, this dude is ripped up.
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  Speaker 2: He's shred He's not noh row as Chapman, but he's
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  Speaker 2: a man child. And I think that, you know, with
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  Speaker 2: him producing more home runs this year, I looked at
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  Speaker 2: him to be close to fifty home runs this year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I said it, fifty home runs. This kid can really
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  Speaker 2: put him out of the ballpark, and especially with a
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  Speaker 2: short porch and Fenway Park in right field, I think
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  Speaker 2: he can do it. And you know, he's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: hitting leadoffs, so we're gonna see a lot of leadoff
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  Speaker 2: home runs from him this year.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'll take the under. I'll take the under
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  Speaker 3: considering that Jonathan Paplevan picked Saidan Rafaela last year to
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  Speaker 3: be the MVP of the league. So I'll take the under.
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  Speaker 3: But thank you for that easy under that I just got.
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  Speaker 3: Should he be the leadoff? Should he have a lead off?
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  Speaker 2: You know, Kratz, that's a great point. I would rather
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  Speaker 2: see somebody else that lead off, even even in the
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  Speaker 2: two or three spot. I like him, but I think
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  Speaker 2: that's something that you know, Alex kra and these managers
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  Speaker 2: today are all going towards, is putting their best hitter
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  Speaker 2: number one, you know, in the lineup and hoping that
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  Speaker 2: they can roll that lineup over that one extra time
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  Speaker 2: so that in the ninth inning you can get him
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  Speaker 2: back up. You see Shoho Tani back first and You're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: should he be a three or four whole hitter? But
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  Speaker 2: that's what the managers are doing, this these these these
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  Speaker 2: times of the year, and and so, you know, so
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  Speaker 2: I like it a little bit, but I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: see him in a more run product producing spot in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: And I get it, you only hit lead off once
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  Speaker 3: and Kyle Schwarber hit lead off, and I feel like
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  Speaker 3: it's everybody's trying to make it their own stick. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna go to a guy that didn't even start yesterday
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  Speaker 3: but was in on a lot of the action. Fortunately
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  Speaker 3: he didn't fall going around third base that on that
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  Speaker 3: one play, Marcella Meyer. Is Marcella Meyer going to be
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  Speaker 3: an everyday guy after.
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  Speaker 2: May?
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  Speaker 3: Because clearly the left he's on the mount and Andrew Abbott,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna go ahead and start Isaiah Kiner Fileff And
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  Speaker 3: you didn't bring him into. You didn't bring him in
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  Speaker 3: to sit in the bench against lefties. Will they let
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  Speaker 3: Meyer play every day by the end of the month
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  Speaker 3: of May.
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  Speaker 2: By the end of the month of May. That's a
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  Speaker 2: tough one for me. Kratz. I'm gonna go with yes,
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  Speaker 2: just simply because I think that they're gonna eventually hand
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  Speaker 2: this kid the torch. And what I mean by that
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  Speaker 2: is they're gonna want to see what he can do
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  Speaker 2: every day. And Isaiah Connor Fileff is going to start
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  Speaker 2: into a role playing position and and come off the bench.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the biggest the biggest difference between him and
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  Speaker 2: Roman Anthony is that is Marcelo Meyer doesn't have the
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  Speaker 2: plate discipline that Roman Anthony does. And that's the reason
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  Speaker 2: why Roman Anthony is is where he is. And so
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  Speaker 2: for me, I think swinging at bad pitches and some
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  Speaker 2: plate discipline for Marcelo Meyer will be key and in
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  Speaker 2: order to see if he can take over that everyday role,
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  Speaker 2: because I think he has the ability to take that
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  Speaker 2: role over every day. It's just that let's clean some
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  Speaker 2: few things up here, like swinging at bad pitches and
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more plate discipline. And I believe that
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  Speaker 2: the job is his and I believe that he can
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  Speaker 2: handle it. I just think that this is the last
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  Speaker 2: part of his growth in order to become an everyday
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  Speaker 2: starter in an every day Big leaguer.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, I got one more question from about the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: If we put that if we put that graphic up
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  Speaker 3: of their lineup projected lineup.
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  Speaker 4: For the year.
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  Speaker 3: Are they a little short in your opinion? Are they
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  Speaker 3: a little short? I get it, they open they want
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  Speaker 3: opening day, But is that lineup short for you for
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  Speaker 3: an entire one hundred and sixty two games.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you were just talking earlier, Kratz about staying healthy.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a lineup that has to stay healthy
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  Speaker 2: in order to succeed because what they have behind them
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  Speaker 2: is not very much. And as you get down towards
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of the lineup, yeah, you're looking at Marcelo
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  Speaker 2: Meyer and Raphael and Normaiaz. But to me, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: worried about Narbias. You know, he's a catcher that can
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  Speaker 2: do it behind the play and control the game and
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  Speaker 2: control the staff, So I'm not necessarily worried about him hitting.
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  Speaker 2: I need, say Doan to finally step up, and I
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  Speaker 2: need him to be able to start putting the ball
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  Speaker 2: out of the park because I know that he can
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  Speaker 2: uh and being able to stop getting himself in situations
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  Speaker 2: where every time you look up it seems like he's
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  Speaker 2: either er two or one two. You know, it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's just the young Saydan, that we've seen so much,
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  Speaker 2: and this needs to be the improvement in his game.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, crats, if they stay healthy, I think
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  Speaker 2: this lineup has some fortitwo to be able to make
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  Speaker 2: it through the entire season and really carrying themselves into
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  Speaker 2: the playoff seasons, because not only do I expect a
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  Speaker 2: lot out of him this year, but I know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of Boston is expecting a lot, And to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's World Series or bust this year. I really
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  Speaker 2: do think that they have the pitching staff and and
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  Speaker 2: the lineup if they stay healthy, to make it all
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  Speaker 2: the way to the World Series and win it.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's not highly likely.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see. But yes, I'm with you. I think
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  Speaker 1: Boston's going to be good. I got two more for you.
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  Speaker 1: One is, as we're talking about the line of in depth,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: because injuries will happen where we at. On Christian Campbell,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't follow him much obviously. I know he's still
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: trying to crack it in the minor leagues right now,
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  Speaker 1: eventually become an impactful big league player? You know they
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's up in the bigs. Life
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  Speaker 1: came out him fast, and now he's learning all kinds
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: of different positioning. What do you got on him, Scotty?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great point, man. I think that you said
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  Speaker 2: it best. I think that life in the game of
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: baseball came at him too fast, and I think that
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox kind of jumped a little bit early
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  Speaker 2: at this position and tried to say, hey, let's lock
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• 17:32
  Speaker 2: his career. But as we know, it's it's not how
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: you start it's how you finish, and he wasn't able
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to finish. So for me, it's it's it's one thing.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: He came out of Georgia Tech, didn't play much in
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: the minor leagues. They tossed him into a big league
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: situation right away, and now you're almost getting you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: they almost gave him the keys to second base last year,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and and to me, he didn't really prove much. So
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know what their plans are for him in
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the long term, but I know short term he will
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: be in Triple A and he will be playing there
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: for a while. It's just, you know, it's his maturity
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: and his plate discipline and his ability to play every
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: day is just not there yet. So I think not
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: only him, but another guy in my opinion that the
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: roads there's no roads anymore for him to go down,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: is Yoshidah. I mean, Yoshidah is stuck. I mean there's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: nowhere for him to go. I don't see him playing
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: very much either, and yet he's still gonna be at
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the big league levels, So what do you do with
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: him as well? So maybe there would be some trades
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: come trade deadline this year, but it's gonna be hard
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: to get rid of those guys now that you know
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: they're not producing, right, Yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And they're making good cash. You're gonna have to eat money,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: trade in away someone like Yoshida and a team wants
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to take them all right. My last one for you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: is an interesting player slash media dynamic question. So this
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: comes from a minute ago at this point, probably six
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to eight weeks ago, at the start of spring training,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: where IKF said that nobody approached him after the World
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Series Game seven about the lead off of third and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that whole deal. You remember that right where he was criticized,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the Blue Jays were criticized, So spin it forward. Our
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: show has had over eight hundred play player appearances. We
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: ask people, we get knows. Sometimes we respectfully say okay.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: When we did Red Sox spring training, we got to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: his team and his people and we got a hard know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: So my question to you.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Is when a guy is kind of calling out the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: media for not giving him a platform, but then we
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: try and ask him and maybe it wasn't the right timing,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: what are we supposed to do as media members?
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: So, like, I felt like my group got called out
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: for not approaching someone, and also like in today's world,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you know this, you could get your story out in
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: five minutes via article, you know, via going on a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: show whatever. So I don't know the guy well and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not calling him out. I'm more just acting like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: on to defend the media side. What are we supposed
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to do when someone says, oh, well, no one got
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: my side of the story, and then we ask, and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I think others to too, and then you get a no.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you know, in today's world, I think you
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: said it best. If if you have a problem or
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you want to get a story out, or you want
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to get your side of the story out, it's not
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that hard. And then when someone approaches you to get
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it out and make it that much easier, and you
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: still want to blame him, I've got a problem with that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: So to me, if this continues and and you know
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: he wants to have problems with the media, especially in Boston,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: this ain't gonna fly, brother, This ain't gonna fly because
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: you will get chewed up and spit out like one
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of the other. And so to me, the best thing
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: for him to do is just shut up and produce, right,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Just shut up and produce, and then whenever you want
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to get something out, then you have all the opportunity
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and all the media in the world in Boston to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: do that with, then do it. But to me, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: kf man, you got to shut up and produce right now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares about anything else.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Buddy Well I cared, but he wouldn't come on and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: talk to us, and we were like, let's share the story.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm with you. You can't. You can't play it
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: both ways. That was my point. I'm like, if you're
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: going to cry, oh, no one's giving me the platform,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: then you're there. And like you said, now you're in Boston.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So if you want to get anything out at any
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: point ever, you're going to have an opportunity. There are
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: begging to talk to players and get access, so Well
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: said