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Chuck & Buck 1-7 Hour 1: All that's wrong with College Football, Harbaugh's on the hunt and who is to blame? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Third morning, folks, Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning till you welcome into the radio show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly. You know, when people passers by from
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it look like it says chucking
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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, Happy hump day. Man.
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Speaker 6: Do we have a lot.
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Speaker 1: To discuss here over our four hours together. That's right,
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Speaker 1: we'll be taking you till ten o'clock. We'll go over
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Speaker 1: with what's on tap coming up here In a moment,
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Speaker 1: couple of wrinkles to today's program. Ashley has jumped aboard.
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Speaker 1: It was New Year's resolution number sixty three of mine
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Speaker 1: out of four hundred and ninety six. This year, I
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Speaker 1: intend never to be disappointed this year. Yeah, for the
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Speaker 1: entire calendar year, that's a resolution of mine. And so
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Speaker 1: Ashley and I put together a plan where like, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get Mike McDonald on this week, and let's get
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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck as our special Seahawks playoff insider as well.
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Speaker 1: So it was pretty lofty goal. You know, this time
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Speaker 1: of the year, Mike McDonald's not doing a lot of
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Speaker 1: interviews and Matt Hasselbeck's you know, everybody wants to talk
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Speaker 1: to Matt Hasselbeck, and damn if we didn't pull it
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Speaker 1: off this week. Yeah, so yeah, way to go.
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Speaker 2: Actually kind of impressive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really did a great job too, Really well done
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Speaker 1: on your part. So, yes, it looks like I'm going
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Speaker 1: to have an entire calendar year of not being disappointed.
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Speaker 5: Man, I wish that I could say I wouldn't have
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Speaker 5: a part in ruining that thing, that that resolution. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: you're probably going to live to disappointment. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 5: that I will disappoint you at some point in time, but.
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Speaker 6: Maybe I've already done it. Just have that as a
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Speaker 6: sub thing underneath that.
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Speaker 2: Resolution resolution number thirty two.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's like thirty two then thirty three, and
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Speaker 5: it would be fitting thirty three is unless it's Bucky,
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Speaker 5: then it still counts as not being disappointed.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, like all the resolutions sort of that's just skind
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Speaker 1: of built into the fab it is. O.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, So like I'm exempt from ruining them, ning them.
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Speaker 1: Like I want to live it every day with joy
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Speaker 1: and and not let Bucky ruin, right right, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I think it's a great plan as long as that
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Speaker 5: just put that at the top, right, all of these
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Speaker 5: exclude Bucky factors, and then you're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 5: better chance because that one I will ruin.
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Speaker 6: I shall disappoint you again and again. I have no
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Speaker 6: doubt that you will just stomp all over my Yea.
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Speaker 2: Now you've said it for success, because now you've said
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Speaker 2: I will disappoint you at some time this year, Whereas
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Speaker 2: if you didn't disappoint him, he would now be disappointed
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Speaker 2: that you didn't do what you said you were going
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Speaker 2: to do it. True, So now every time you disappoint him,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be like, aha, I'm so glad Bucky did
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Speaker 2: that today.
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Speaker 1: Can't be disappointed if you don't set that expectation, right, yeah, exactly. Well, anyway,
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Speaker 1: nice job, Ashley, We're going to pay that off for you.
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Speaker 6: Today.
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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck will be joining us today to get his
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Speaker 1: new role in his life started with us, so we're
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Speaker 1: excited about that. Coming up at eight o'clock, Mike McDonald
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Speaker 1: will be joining us Friday on the radio program, and
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Speaker 1: we'll give you details on that. I think eight o'clock
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Speaker 1: is what we're going to do on Friday morning as well,
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Speaker 1: so he'll join us on a football Friday. Excited about
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Speaker 1: both of those things and about a guest that we're
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Speaker 1: going to have on today for the very first time,
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Speaker 1: and it seems like the perfect time to.
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Speaker 6: Have him on again.
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Speaker 1: You set your expectations and then Ashley finds a way
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Speaker 1: to surpass them. I really like this twenty twenty six Ashley.
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Speaker 2: You know if I like the way I'm setting myself
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Speaker 2: up for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1: Really off to a good start. So we'll tell you
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Speaker 1: more about that coming up in What's on Tap. But
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Speaker 1: we begin today's program with a thing that everybody seems
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Speaker 1: to be talking about. I'm not kidding you. I let
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Speaker 1: the overnight pass and then woke up this morning to
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Speaker 1: see what the social media buzz was in regards to
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Speaker 1: Demand Williams Junior and now granted it's reading my timeline
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Speaker 1: and the stories that I was interested in last night
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Speaker 1: before I went to bed. But I'm telling you nine
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Speaker 1: out of ten entries were nothing but reaction to the
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Speaker 1: story yesterday. That was Demond Williams Junior backing out of
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Speaker 1: his commitment to you Dub, not even being in the
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Speaker 1: transfer portal until yesterday, and then announcing it in an
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Speaker 1: inglorious fashion that he was entering the transfer portal when
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Speaker 1: the entire college football world already knew that he had
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Speaker 1: agreed to a deal with the snake known as Lane
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Speaker 1: Kiffen down there in Louisiana State University. And so if
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Speaker 1: you're just joining us this morning, you know, knocking the
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Speaker 1: krusties out of your eyes and try and you haven't
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Speaker 1: heard this story, I will just briefly recap it. Demond
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Speaker 1: Williams is leaving Washington despite having an NIL deal, and
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Speaker 1: he's going to LSU, and you Dub is trying legally
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Speaker 1: to keep that from happening. Not that they think that
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Speaker 1: they're going to keep Demond Williams in a Husky uniform
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Speaker 1: at this point, but just in an effort to say, well,
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Speaker 1: this can't be allowed, right, I realize we're in a
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Speaker 1: different era of the college football world. But two weeks
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Speaker 1: ago he agreed to be here, stay here, took money
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Speaker 1: to do so, signed his name on a contract to
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Speaker 1: do so, and now he has the ability to just
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Speaker 1: rip that up because he got a better offer in
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Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours. Yeah, looks like that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what has happened. So he's going to LSU. He won't
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Speaker 1: be at Washington going forward, and the entire college football
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Speaker 1: world is an upheaval. Many people, and not just pissed
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Speaker 1: off Husky fans, but many people across the country wondering
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Speaker 1: if this is going to be the example that sets
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Speaker 1: the tone for where the line is drawn with NIL
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Speaker 1: transfer portal deals and everything else. We'll see, but this
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Speaker 1: might end up being, I mean, demon Williams might be
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Speaker 1: famous long term for like Kurt Flood was for free
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Speaker 1: agency in Major League Baseball. This might be the story
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Speaker 1: that forces the NCAA College Football to examine thoroughly and
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Speaker 1: act quickly on what they're going to allow contractually in
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Speaker 1: NIL going forward.
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Speaker 5: Well, they have, I mean, we've talked about it at length,
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Speaker 5: just because of the chaos that is the transfer port
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Speaker 5: of the way in which it has changed everything, and
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Speaker 5: there's no there's nothing that's stable. You just feel like,
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Speaker 5: you know, you use the joke like if somebody gets
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Speaker 5: a stale bagel or something that they I'm out, or
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Speaker 5: if a girl in economics class doesn't say hi to him,
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Speaker 5: I'm transferring whatever, whatever, something frivolous might be. Now, if
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Speaker 5: this one is I was going to make five million dollars,
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Speaker 5: but I get offered six million dollars, then I can
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Speaker 5: jump ship and just say, well, I got to do
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Speaker 5: what's best for my family.
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Speaker 6: All that's finding good. It's not like he didn't say
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Speaker 6: for family.
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Speaker 5: He said very clearly, I'm going to get I gotta
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Speaker 5: do the best for me, for me and my future. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: my future, and so yeah, I mean it's all of
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Speaker 5: it is fine and well, how people are going to
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Speaker 5: make their decisions. It's just that you have to have
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Speaker 5: some sort of barrier, some sort of guardrails on the thing,
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Speaker 5: and they haven't had any.
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Speaker 6: You just you can't let it just be.
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Speaker 1: Well, this was supposed to be a guard rail they
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Speaker 1: were supposed to have. NCAA was going to start paying
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Speaker 1: players and then you're supposed to be able to sign
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Speaker 1: a contract, and then that made it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, when you signed some agreement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you dub assuing him. I mean, they're suing the process.
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Speaker 1: Now what they get out of that, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: I mean I just I read this morning an attorney
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Speaker 1: breaking it down and she said they're not going to
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Speaker 1: be able to keep him from going to LS.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they want to. I don't think
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Speaker 2: you would.
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Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to force him to
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Speaker 1: stay in a UW uniform. At best, they're going to
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Speaker 1: get some money back out of the deal. And that's
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Speaker 1: about all you can expect until the NCAA in college
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Speaker 1: football gets together and actually puts.
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Speaker 6: Those guardrails up.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, puts up enough that based is beyond a parent
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Speaker 5: I mean I always thought, I mean, I'm only fifty,
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Speaker 5: so who knows what I know. I always thought a
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Speaker 5: contract was binding to some extent. Now whatever it is
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Speaker 5: they're having them sign for nil deals apparently is not
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Speaker 5: the same thing.
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Speaker 6: It's just here, here's what we.
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Speaker 5: Agree to pay you, and yet you can leave if
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Speaker 5: somebody calls you, some snake in the grass calls you.
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Speaker 5: After that, Now, the idea of once you've signed again,
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Speaker 5: re signed again, that you should be off limits to
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Speaker 5: someone being able to contact you but the agents. And
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Speaker 5: there's been shadiness going on in sports and in college
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Speaker 5: football primarily forever, and now it's kind of like it's
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Speaker 5: all above board, or it's supposedly all out in the open,
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Speaker 5: and yet there's still well if you give an inch,
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Speaker 5: then they'll take a yard that type of thing. It's like, oh,
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Speaker 5: they're letting us do this, okay, and there's a cap,
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Speaker 5: a twenty and a half million dollar cap, and they
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Speaker 5: got to split that.
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Speaker 6: They are finding ways around that whole thing.
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Speaker 5: And then obviously now we're recognized, recognizing that they're finding
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Speaker 5: ways around even the rules of what is and what
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Speaker 5: isn't off limits. I mean, once somebody says I'm coming
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Speaker 5: back or I'm going to transfer to this place, it
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Speaker 5: shouldn't be Well, now that we know that you're open
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Speaker 5: to it, we can or even at that point he
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Speaker 5: was saying, I'm not open to leaving, I'm not wanting
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Speaker 5: to leave, I'm coming back, and.
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Speaker 6: So everybody's excited.
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Speaker 5: That was just a few days ago, and then now
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden he's you find out that at
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Speaker 5: the probably the worst possible time, while him a bunch
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Speaker 5: of his teammates are so at the memorial for the
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Speaker 5: soccer player, Mia, What was there you handt Mia Hammond, Yeah,
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Speaker 5: that they're they're at that thing, and he then announces
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Speaker 5: on Instagram that I'm entering the transfer portal.
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Speaker 6: It's just it's beyond a bad look.
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Speaker 5: But you're right, if a defensive end leaves does the
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Speaker 5: same thing, or a cornerback or a running back, it
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Speaker 5: doesn't hit the same as somebody that you know, people
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Speaker 5: were talking about this as a Heisman candidate, and you
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Speaker 5: know you've rebound after everything that happened with Katherin de
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Speaker 5: bor leaving and Jedfish and Demon Williams come in here,
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Speaker 5: and now you're thinking, hey, all right, boom, at the
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Speaker 5: end of the season, you got to first and foremost
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Speaker 5: lock down your guys and then get some from the
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Speaker 5: transfer portal in you think you do that with your quarterback.
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Speaker 5: And now you hear that he might be jumping ship
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Speaker 5: or his jumping ship. I think, as she's right, I
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Speaker 5: don't think anybody wants him back.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 5: Once you do that, it's like, okay, we don't necessarily
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Speaker 5: want you back, but they're going to create some sort
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Speaker 5: of chaos that is going to maybe mess up LSU's
12:26
Speaker 5: world a little bit, or possibly have to give them
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Speaker 5: some money. I have no idea, but they got to
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Speaker 5: figure out some sort of punishment for stuff like this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I would think, I don't even care if
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Speaker 1: we don't officially ironclad know how this is gonna work
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Speaker 1: going forward. But you sign a contract with another entity,
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Speaker 1: it should mean more than well, I've got this minimum
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Speaker 1: and now I can start negotiating with other people. It
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Speaker 1: has to mean more than that.
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Speaker 2: Right well, and especially in this situation, this was kind
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Speaker 2: of a new I mean, I think they signed a
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Speaker 2: shared revenue. Yeah, shared revenue. So it wasn't just like
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Speaker 2: your this is just a contract for you to play here.
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Speaker 2: This was we're going to share money we make with you,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and that's how important you are to us.
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Speaker 2: And so I think the really unfortunate thing is this
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Speaker 2: is making coaches jobs impossible.
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Speaker 1: But the coaches are.
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Speaker 2: As much well I should say athletic director's jobs then,
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Speaker 2: or you know, administration jobs impossible, GMS. Now at college,
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Speaker 2: it's making all of the jobs impossible because now you've
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Speaker 2: recruited the guy. He's come to the school, he likes it,
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Speaker 2: he's decided to stay. You're giving him a shared revenue deal,
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Speaker 2: he signs it, and now he's leaving. I mean, what
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Speaker 2: are what are you supposed to do?
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Speaker 1: They have to have rules, and everybody's talking about it
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Speaker 1: and written. We have gone to the point where we're
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Speaker 1: paying the athletes out in the open, right. Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: do laugh at the idea that man and we used
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Speaker 1: to think that. I can't believe that the NFL is
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Speaker 1: purer than college sports. The NFL has always been purer
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Speaker 1: than college sports. So I kind of laugh at that
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Speaker 1: kind of sentiment that's been shared overnight.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: But but we have to set up iron collaterals. It
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Speaker 1: has to be treated professionally. It has to You have
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Speaker 1: to have some commissioner, you have to have lawyers and
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Speaker 1: the contracts that they sign, and the rules have to
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Speaker 1: be put in place that if you validate, if you
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Speaker 1: invalidate them, there have to be consequences for it. You
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Speaker 1: just can't go to a better place. I mean, right now,
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold can't decide, you know what, what a great
14:35
Speaker 1: year I had with the Seahawks, But I'm gonna I'm
14:38
Speaker 1: gonna make a little bit more money next year with
14:40
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. So I'm just gonna take it. No, no, no,
14:43
Speaker 1: you signed a contract. So obviously, if you sign a
14:46
Speaker 1: contract in sports, if you do it the right way,
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Speaker 1: it does have meaning, It does have teeth, it does
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Speaker 1: have grit. You can't just get out of it because
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Speaker 1: you want to. So whatever they're doing in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League obviously now has to happen at the college
15:03
Speaker 1: sports level as well. And so you know, Rick new
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Speaker 1: ISAA talks about it all the time. You know, I
15:10
Speaker 1: know they're gonna work on the college football calendar this offseason,
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Speaker 1: but this is gonna be I think the Okay, this
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Speaker 1: crosses the line. There's no way we can keep allowing
15:21
Speaker 1: this to happen because what does U DUBB have to
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Speaker 1: do now? Their only choice is, well, now we got
15:26
Speaker 1: to steal somebody else's quarterback yep. And then so it
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Speaker 1: just perpetuates the problem. It's just like the coaching situation.
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Speaker 1: College coaches contracts don't mean anything.
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Speaker 6: I think they should.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it's that outlandish to say
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Speaker 1: that you just can't leave for the better job immediately
15:45
Speaker 1: because it pays you fourteen dollars more. I think that
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Speaker 1: there should be something there that.
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Speaker 6: Should stick to people.
15:52
Speaker 1: Lane keffn should have to sit out a year if
15:54
Speaker 1: it's so great that he can coach at LSU. But
15:57
Speaker 1: that snake doesn't think that anything is sacred.
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Speaker 6: He'll will, he will.
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Speaker 1: He's like Edward Longshanks of England. I mean, he's the
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Speaker 1: guy that's standing there at his assistant coach's wedding saying,
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Speaker 1: I get first rights to sleep with your wife. Just
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Speaker 1: what we agreed to. It's just the law. Sorry about it, Bud,
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Speaker 1: I've got first rights, you know. That's that's the way
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Speaker 1: that he treats everything in sports. He just crushes anything
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Speaker 1: that if he can eat it, he's gonna eat it
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Speaker 1: and that and we've got to stop that mentality otherwise. Yes,
16:31
Speaker 1: the sport is in trouble. Aaron Taylor said it a
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago. I agree with it completely. The sport
16:35
Speaker 1: is in this strange position. It's as popular as ever,
16:39
Speaker 1: but it's as vulnerable as ever, and so you have
16:42
Speaker 1: to now care for it in a different way and
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Speaker 1: you better get on it now.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, I mean it's right.
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Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy the way that you just put it,
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Speaker 5: because it's like this going down is one of the
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Speaker 5: grosser examples of the of the transfer one because it
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Speaker 5: kind of hits close to home, and I see how
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Speaker 5: it affects all my friends that are you dub fans,
17:05
Speaker 5: like they were just was a January second that he signed, right,
17:07
Speaker 5: it was like everybody's like rope right on, boom, here
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Speaker 5: we go, you know, Heisman candidate. You just kind of
17:13
Speaker 5: feel like you've got the most important piece locked up
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Speaker 5: for next year. And that's after the couple months of
17:19
Speaker 5: wondering if Jedfish was going to be around. So it's like, okay,
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Speaker 5: that water's under the bridge. Now you've got your quarterback back.
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Speaker 5: You're like, here we go. Now just add some more
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Speaker 5: pieces and that and and and you know, improve on
17:31
Speaker 5: a nine and four record, and everything's looking like it's
17:34
Speaker 5: going on the up and up. Now all of a sudden,
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Speaker 5: it's like what and you find yourself in the midst
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Speaker 5: of kind of some upheople. The problem with it is,
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Speaker 5: I don't know for sure how you can. It's always
17:45
Speaker 5: been that the powers would be the you know, corporate
17:49
Speaker 5: iHeart has control over us, right like they we sign
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Speaker 5: a contract and then if they don't want us anymore,
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Speaker 5: they can say goodbye.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we can't say that.
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Speaker 5: We can't just say well, sorry, I'm I'm under contract,
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Speaker 5: but that place over there wants me more, so pay
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Speaker 5: up or I'm leaving. No, you're under contract. So somewhere
18:08
Speaker 5: along the line it can't be fair and square. It's
18:10
Speaker 5: not going to be fair and square. Somebody has to
18:12
Speaker 5: have be the hammer. Somebody has to be the nail.
18:14
Speaker 5: And unfortunately, at this point, yeah, we are nails for sure, but.
18:18
Speaker 2: There's usually some sort of at least small protection. Right,
18:20
Speaker 2: even if they just let you go, you're going to
18:23
Speaker 2: get something. It's not if you're done and you don't
18:25
Speaker 2: get paid again after that day.
18:27
Speaker 5: Right, there's got to be there's got to be some
18:29
Speaker 5: more rules put in place. Now we recognize that when
18:32
Speaker 5: everybody is clamoring you got to pay these guys. It
18:34
Speaker 5: seems like the NCAAAA just said, okay, here you go
18:39
Speaker 5: go ahead and pay them. See how if that works
18:41
Speaker 5: out for you, like they wanted the chaos. Well, now
18:43
Speaker 5: you're at the point of we're in the midst of
18:46
Speaker 5: getting ready to watch the semi finals, and there's no
18:48
Speaker 5: part of this ugly situation that just came down the
18:50
Speaker 5: pike yesterday that's going to make me not want to
18:53
Speaker 5: watch the college football playoffs, and yet it only has
18:56
Speaker 5: to hit close enough to home for you individually for
18:59
Speaker 5: some people to say I'm done. I'm not gonna do
19:02
Speaker 5: it anymore, especially if you were somebody that's been paying
19:04
Speaker 5: into some collective and now all of a sudden you
19:06
Speaker 5: feel like your money, like the Troy Aigmann situation, that
19:09
Speaker 5: that went out the door, because there's no nothing kind
19:12
Speaker 5: of reeling that thing in.
19:13
Speaker 1: Well, I think this had to happen in the sports
19:15
Speaker 1: where that maybe we had to live with this period
19:18
Speaker 1: of chaos. But there are some things that are obvious.
19:22
Speaker 1: Coaches should not be able to leave with multiple years
19:25
Speaker 1: on their contract without more of a penalty. Players in
19:29
Speaker 1: the middle of a national championship run. Should not be
19:32
Speaker 1: forced to make decisions whether or not they're transferring and
19:35
Speaker 1: leaving the roster before they even play in the championship
19:38
Speaker 1: came and this a guy that signs a contract should
19:42
Speaker 1: mean more than oh, now I've really got negotiating power
19:46
Speaker 1: because Washington knows me this minimum and yet now I
19:50
Speaker 1: can start looking around for something better. It has to
19:53
Speaker 1: mean more than that. So there are some obvious things
19:56
Speaker 1: on the table this offseason for college football, and there's
19:59
Speaker 1: no kicking these things down the road. No, you got
20:02
Speaker 1: to get addressed them now.
20:04
Speaker 6: You have to.
20:04
Speaker 1: As soon as the National Championship's over, I want to
20:07
Speaker 1: hear some legislation because there's no way that you can
20:10
Speaker 1: keep this going the way that it's going. Right now,
20:12
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this throughout the show. Let's
20:14
Speaker 1: find out what's on tap.
20:18
Speaker 4: What's on TEP, what's on TEP?
20:21
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, Demon Williams will be a big topic
20:23
Speaker 1: today and all the mini fingers that come from this story.
20:27
Speaker 1: Softy's gonna join us today at seven thirty. He's got
20:30
Speaker 1: some insight that we don't have, so we'll share that
20:32
Speaker 1: with you. Coming up on the program today. College football
20:35
Speaker 1: Playoff rezumes tomorrow. It'll be Ole Miss versus Miami and
20:39
Speaker 1: the Thursday game. The Friday night game will be Indiana
20:42
Speaker 1: and Oregon. It's the final four of college football and
20:46
Speaker 1: so the good and the bad of college football being
20:50
Speaker 1: on display here over the course of this week. National
20:53
Speaker 1: Football League Wildcard Playoff Round will begin on Saturday with
20:57
Speaker 1: the Rams at Carolina starting at one thirty. Triple header
21:00
Speaker 1: on Sunday. There's even a Monday night game. We will
21:03
Speaker 1: preview the NFL playoffs and the unique way that we
21:06
Speaker 1: do it here on Chuck and Buck. A Green Jacket
21:08
Speaker 1: draft coming your way today at nine o'clock. Seahawks are
21:11
Speaker 1: on by Boy. That seems like an advantage.
21:15
Speaker 6: Yeah.
21:15
Speaker 2: Wait, I don't play for Yeah, I don't even have
21:17
Speaker 2: to play.
21:18
Speaker 6: This week we got advanced.
21:19
Speaker 1: We advanced without even playing.
21:21
Speaker 2: I like it.
21:22
Speaker 1: Greg Bell is going to join us and talk about
21:23
Speaker 1: that at seven oh five. And as I mentioned, Matt
21:25
Speaker 1: Hasselbeck makes his debut as a team member today at
21:29
Speaker 1: eight o'clock, so we're fired up for that. Speaking of fire,
21:32
Speaker 1: John Harball got fired in Baltimore yesterday. We'll discuss that
21:36
Speaker 1: more here in a matter of minutes. Cracking one again,
21:39
Speaker 1: that's eight out of nine. There's suddenly just to point
21:42
Speaker 1: out of first place in the division, and it's led
21:45
Speaker 1: by the kids. Berkeley Catton had his first goal of
21:49
Speaker 1: his career last night and he had two of them.
21:52
Speaker 1: And we're gonna chat with Berkeley today at nine thirty,
21:56
Speaker 1: so he'll be joining us on the program. And in
21:59
Speaker 1: college basketball, you doub will take on Purdue tonight, the
22:02
Speaker 1: fifth ranked team in America. The team that started the
22:05
Speaker 1: year is the preseason number one, and that tip will
22:08
Speaker 1: take place at five thirty. Coming up next Hardball's Out
22:12
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. The ripple effects and how it might even
22:15
Speaker 1: impact the Seahawks. We'll discuss it next on Chuck and
22:18
Speaker 1: Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Alright, Chuck out,
22:33
Speaker 1: Lucky Jacobson and Ashley Ryan with you. So much to
22:36
Speaker 1: discuss today. We've already discussed the Demand Williams situation here
22:40
Speaker 1: in Washington for twenty minutes this morning. It will be
22:44
Speaker 1: probably our number one topic throughout the course of the show.
22:47
Speaker 1: Today's soft You'll be joining us at seven thirty. If
22:50
Speaker 1: not that topic, it's obviously Seahawks getting ready for bye
22:55
Speaker 1: week and the NFL playoffs, and we got that covered
22:58
Speaker 1: with Matt Hasselbeck joining us as our inside our expert
23:02
Speaker 1: our analyst, Special Analyst O Ryan Ealy of the NFL Playoffs,
23:07
Speaker 1: Seahawks playoffs. He's going to join us starting today and
23:10
Speaker 1: every Wednesday throughout the postseason at eight o'clock and Greg
23:13
Speaker 1: Bell will be with us at seven o five this morning.
23:16
Speaker 1: But there is another story out there that I think
23:18
Speaker 1: that it at least deserves a segment of discussion here
23:22
Speaker 1: on our four hour program, and that is the Ravens
23:25
Speaker 1: firing John Harbaugh yesterday after eighteen years as head coach.
23:30
Speaker 1: That's one hell of a run in today by today's
23:33
Speaker 1: standards in the National Football League. And he was one
23:36
Speaker 1: of those coaches that I thought would just sort of
23:39
Speaker 1: be there as long as he wanted to be there.
23:42
Speaker 1: But the Ravens had a different idea considering how the
23:45
Speaker 1: season went this past year, and I guess from what
23:48
Speaker 1: we're hearing, John Harbaugh had a different idea, as it's
23:52
Speaker 1: felt very mutual. I mean, the headline says he was fired,
23:56
Speaker 1: but it sounds like Harball in his conversations with the
23:59
Speaker 1: Ravens own had pretty much made it clear that maybe
24:02
Speaker 1: it is time for a reset, maybe it is time
24:05
Speaker 1: for a change in life, and he's not going to
24:07
Speaker 1: be out of work long unless he wants to be.
24:10
Speaker 1: According to Adam Schefter this morning, seven teams have already
24:15
Speaker 1: contacted John Harbaugh about their head coaching position, and I'd
24:20
Speaker 1: be all over that as well. But it might not
24:22
Speaker 1: stop there. Frankly, I mean Buffalo apparently, if Sean McDermott
24:27
Speaker 1: doesn't go deep, and I mean as deep as you
24:30
Speaker 1: can go in the playoffs, he could be out and
24:32
Speaker 1: John Harball might be interested in Yeah, I'll take a
24:35
Speaker 1: Josh Allen led team, and then you've got the Dallas
24:39
Speaker 1: Cowboys situation. I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry Jones wouldn't
24:43
Speaker 1: dump Brian Schottenheimer and a heartbeat if John Harball was
24:46
Speaker 1: willing to come to Dallas. So it might not just
24:48
Speaker 1: be the candidates out there that have head coaching vacancies.
24:53
Speaker 1: That's what kind of commodity John Harbaugh would be and
24:57
Speaker 1: should be on the market in term of whether or
25:01
Speaker 1: not you think you could you have to fill a
25:03
Speaker 1: head coaching vacancy.
25:04
Speaker 6: Or possibly upgrade one.
25:05
Speaker 1: But this is I wouldn't say shocking because we sort
25:09
Speaker 1: of discussed it yesterday, so it's been out there that
25:12
Speaker 1: maybe his time has come to an end in Baltimore.
25:15
Speaker 1: But certainly when the season began, I wouldn't have guessed
25:18
Speaker 1: John Harball was.
25:19
Speaker 5: Going to be available on the open market. No, And
25:22
Speaker 5: it's still shocking to me. I mean when we were
25:25
Speaker 5: talking about it, I still was like, why would they
25:27
Speaker 5: move on from him? Now the fact that you were
25:29
Speaker 5: hearing that it may have been more mutual that he's
25:33
Speaker 5: kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of ready for a change, right,
25:35
Speaker 5: I mean, if if he is still wanting to coach,
25:38
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess there's the possibility that he's kind
25:41
Speaker 5: of like, I just need a break from this. You know,
25:43
Speaker 5: maybe it's just the headache. But this guy, it was,
25:46
Speaker 5: has been really good. I mean, he's had very good
25:49
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame good Yeah. And yet I mean we're
25:51
Speaker 5: talking about this year they missed the playoffs because of
25:54
Speaker 5: a last second missed field goal by their rookie kicker.
25:58
Speaker 5: And if they get in, they didn't seem near as
26:01
Speaker 5: dangerous as they did the last two years when they
26:03
Speaker 5: were kind of rolling through and Lamar was healthy and
26:06
Speaker 5: playing like well, playing at an MVP caliburn winning an MVP.
26:10
Speaker 5: I think that there's there's room for both of those
26:14
Speaker 5: things to be possible and true. And yet, if he's
26:17
Speaker 5: still interested in coaching and he just wants to change
26:19
Speaker 5: of scenery, yeah, he's going to be very highly coveted.
26:22
Speaker 5: I mean, there's nobody that's not going to be interested
26:24
Speaker 5: in what he brings to the table.
26:25
Speaker 6: He just looks like he builds winners.
26:27
Speaker 2: There was a meme going around yesterday that was the
26:30
Speaker 2: field goal there, and it said, Harbaugh fired if it
26:34
Speaker 2: was miss left, Harbor fired if it was miss right,
26:36
Speaker 2: and then if it was made, Tomlin fired. Like that
26:39
Speaker 2: was the implications of that game. But it is interesting. Yeah,
26:42
Speaker 2: obviously he's going to be in high demand because there's
26:44
Speaker 2: seven head coaching openings, but one of them's the Ravens.
26:47
Speaker 2: So obviously, of the seven teams that have contacted him,
26:49
Speaker 2: the Ravens aren't one of them. One of them, they
26:51
Speaker 2: still have a coach.
26:52
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right. And look, I don't think
26:55
Speaker 1: that no matter how deeply the Steelers go with Tomlin,
26:59
Speaker 1: I still think that there's a possibility that he and
27:01
Speaker 1: the Steelers get together to the end of the year
27:03
Speaker 1: and Tomlin's like, I think maybe it's time for a chance,
27:06
Speaker 1: So he might be available as what McDermott might be
27:09
Speaker 1: available for. It's all said and done, Buffalo might be
27:12
Speaker 1: done with him, but I'm guessing, considering the success he's had,
27:15
Speaker 1: that somebody with one of these vacancies might be interested coach.
27:18
Speaker 1: So it could be a crazy offseason in terms of
27:21
Speaker 1: head coaches in the NFL, it typically is anyway, but
27:25
Speaker 1: this one might be special, and certainly John Harball would
27:29
Speaker 1: be at the front of the line. For me, he's
27:31
Speaker 1: such an outlier because we talked about what Arizona's up
27:34
Speaker 1: against and trying to find a head coach that matches
27:36
Speaker 1: the geniuses that they have in the division McDonald, McVeigh
27:40
Speaker 1: and Shanahan. He doesn't fall unto that category. He actually,
27:45
Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint pretty much lets other people do
27:48
Speaker 1: the personnel. He was a special teams coach. What he
27:52
Speaker 1: is is just a great organizer of football and a
27:55
Speaker 1: great organizer of men and a great handler of personalities.
27:59
Speaker 1: And I will use the word great because you don't
28:02
Speaker 1: have an eighteen year run of success like he's had
28:05
Speaker 1: without having some speciality, without having something really good about
28:11
Speaker 1: your leadership skills. And I would think every single team
28:15
Speaker 1: that has a vacancy, for sure, would be interested in
28:18
Speaker 1: the John Harbaugh business. But there's another side of it.
28:21
Speaker 1: Baltimore now as an opening, and clearly there was some
28:26
Speaker 1: sort of rift between Harball and Lamar. Harbaugh did not
28:30
Speaker 1: get the Lamar effort and abilities that we've seen showcased
28:37
Speaker 1: with these two in the past. And when Lamar Jackson
28:41
Speaker 1: was ever asked about the relationship, the answers weren't nearly
28:46
Speaker 1: as defined as they were in the past. So I
28:49
Speaker 1: don't know who's to blame, and I don't know how
28:52
Speaker 1: great a rift there was, but obviously there was something
28:55
Speaker 1: different between Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh and Baltimore Ravens this
29:01
Speaker 1: past year. But if you're hiring a head coach, you
29:04
Speaker 1: got to get somebody. Your first priority is who's going
29:09
Speaker 1: to speak best to Lamar Jackson because he is our
29:13
Speaker 1: number one asset and we need him to play like
29:16
Speaker 1: he did prior to twenty twenty five. Who are we
29:20
Speaker 1: going to get to do that? So you either get
29:23
Speaker 1: like a Harbaugh type, who is that my specialty is
29:27
Speaker 1: dealing with people and athletes and getting the most out
29:32
Speaker 1: of football players and making them part of a team concept.
29:35
Speaker 1: Or you have to go offense and try to get
29:38
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson back on the right track. Well, according to
29:41
Speaker 1: almost everybody out there, the number one offensive mind target
29:46
Speaker 1: this offseason is our guy Clint Kubiak because people were
29:50
Speaker 1: so impressed with what he did with Sam Darnold and
29:53
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offense this year. You do have to give
29:57
Speaker 1: rise to the thought, is Kubiak perhaps a marriage partner
30:02
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens If in fact, they want an
30:05
Speaker 1: offensive guy to come in there and work with their
30:08
Speaker 1: two greatest assets, Lamar and Henry, and get the kind
30:12
Speaker 1: of upgrade that the Seahawks enjoyed this past year in Baltimore.
30:17
Speaker 1: Because if you can get it in Baltimore with those
30:19
Speaker 1: two guys, I mean, imagine what you could do offensively.
30:22
Speaker 6: It's something that has to be thought about.
30:24
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean it's this year. Maybe he didn't
30:27
Speaker 5: get it in large part because Lamar was hurt and
30:30
Speaker 5: missed some time, and then even when he was out there,
30:33
Speaker 5: he wasn't playing at the MVP level. But do you
30:35
Speaker 5: still I mean Derek Henry kind of showed up still
30:38
Speaker 5: even at the end of this year and didn't look
30:41
Speaker 5: like he's lost a step or definitely hasn't lost any
30:44
Speaker 5: power the way that he runs. And so, I mean
30:46
Speaker 5: it's going to be a coveted job. I would think
30:49
Speaker 5: there's some that are not as much coveted jobs. I mean,
30:52
Speaker 5: you know who wants to inherit the mess that is
30:55
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns that's completely different than the Baltimore Ravens.
30:59
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, New York Giants is not they
31:01
Speaker 5: haven't been good, but they feel it feels somewhat better
31:04
Speaker 5: than the Browns didn't seem as messy. So yeah, I
31:07
Speaker 5: think that there's different jobs and different coaches would be
31:10
Speaker 5: interested in those jobs. This would be one because, like
31:14
Speaker 5: I said, they still have enough guys. I mean, they
31:17
Speaker 5: were right there on the verge of winning the division,
31:20
Speaker 5: you know, albeit not with a great record, but they
31:22
Speaker 5: were still right on the verge of that ball going
31:25
Speaker 5: through the uprights and they win the division. And you know,
31:28
Speaker 5: to me, I could definitely see how Harbaugh when you
31:31
Speaker 5: get to where you're making the playoffs just about every
31:34
Speaker 5: single year and yet you're not getting over the hump. Now,
31:36
Speaker 5: some of that is when did you play? Oh you
31:38
Speaker 5: played during the you know, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid
31:42
Speaker 5: Because pretty tough to get to the super Bowl when
31:44
Speaker 5: that team's been around up until this season. But if
31:47
Speaker 5: you can't figure out a way to get your most
31:49
Speaker 5: important player motivated to improve upon what it is like
31:54
Speaker 5: once you've become an MVP, it's hard to stay MVP ish.
31:58
Speaker 5: And I think that they if there was a fall off,
32:00
Speaker 5: he seems like a type of coach I'd be like, no,
32:02
Speaker 5: we ain't going backwards, man, we still got to keep
32:05
Speaker 5: we still got to improve because we haven't won the
32:07
Speaker 5: Super Bowl since whatever year it was, back when he
32:09
Speaker 5: won it, before Lamar was even in the league. So
32:12
Speaker 5: it's an interesting situation. I mean, I think he's going
32:15
Speaker 5: to be coveted. I think that job that he's leaving
32:17
Speaker 5: or got fired from is going to be coveted by
32:20
Speaker 5: a few people as well, and Clint Kubiak could be
32:22
Speaker 5: the guy.
32:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I know this. Kubiak has done interviews all
32:27
Speaker 1: week long, so he has certainly you know, whether or
32:31
Speaker 1: not he emerges as a top candidate, whether or not
32:33
Speaker 1: he interviews will that I couldn't answer you. But I
32:37
Speaker 1: know that they have arranged, and when I say they,
32:42
Speaker 1: the Suitors and the Seahawks for Clint Kubiak to do
32:46
Speaker 1: multiple interviews for head coaching positions this week because this
32:51
Speaker 1: is the window, as Greg told us yesterday, because once
32:55
Speaker 1: he starts preparing for the playoffs, then it's you can't
32:57
Speaker 1: touch him for a while. So he is doing his
33:00
Speaker 1: interviews this week during a bye week. Don't know if
33:03
Speaker 1: people knew, but we earned a bye because we were
33:05
Speaker 1: the best team in the l Yeah. Yeah, it earns
33:08
Speaker 1: you some privileges anyway. By Mode but Clint Kubiak is
33:13
Speaker 1: using the bye week to do all of this interview stuff,
33:16
Speaker 1: this preliminary interview stuff with the teams out there with
33:19
Speaker 1: vacancies that have contacted him, and I know there's at
33:22
Speaker 1: least two and I think it's a lot more than that.
33:24
Speaker 1: I think it's around five. Frankly, at least that seems
33:28
Speaker 1: to be the rumors out there. So we will monitor it,
33:31
Speaker 1: we will will report anything we find, and we will
33:36
Speaker 1: discuss it more with Greg Bell coming up at seven
33:39
Speaker 1: five here this morning, but coming up next. Yeah, we're
33:42
Speaker 1: not going to be able to get too far away
33:44
Speaker 1: from this Demand Williams college football story, so we zoomed
33:48
Speaker 1: the conversation next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Hey,
33:55
Speaker 1: good morning, it's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you, and yeah,
33:58
Speaker 1: we're still trying to come to grips as well well
34:00
Speaker 1: with this whole Demand Williams Junior story. Just update you
34:04
Speaker 1: in case you are hearing it for the first time.
34:07
Speaker 1: Demon Williams Junior had signed basically a contract revenue sharing
34:12
Speaker 1: contract with you DUBB just a few days ago, and
34:15
Speaker 1: it was one thing that we thought Jedfish wasn't gonna
34:18
Speaker 1: have to worry about going forward in this constant state
34:22
Speaker 1: of turmoil that college football and overturn that college football
34:25
Speaker 1: finds itself in in this new nil era. But apparently
34:30
Speaker 1: you can reneg on that contract signing because he has
34:35
Speaker 1: he entered the transfer portal yesterday already at an agreement
34:39
Speaker 1: with LSU. So obviously he was tampered with by Lane Kiffin,
34:43
Speaker 1: which should cross some sort of boundary and break some
34:47
Speaker 1: sort of rule. And yet we might not have strict
34:50
Speaker 1: enough rules and standards set up just yet in this
34:53
Speaker 1: new era to enact any kind of penalties against Demon Williams,
34:58
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, LSU, or anyone else. And so it might
35:01
Speaker 1: be a situation right now until we get those guardrails
35:04
Speaker 1: up that UDUB just has to figure out a way
35:06
Speaker 1: to pick up the pieces, find another quarterback, and they'll
35:09
Speaker 1: probably steal someone from another program in order to satisfy
35:13
Speaker 1: that need at the quarterback position. It's it's an ugly situation,
35:18
Speaker 1: there's no question about it in terms of the player himself.
35:22
Speaker 1: And we're gonna cover this from a lot of different
35:24
Speaker 1: angles today. Softie's gonna join us at seven thirty five. Yeah,
35:29
Speaker 1: I think you are entitled to be angry at Demon
35:31
Speaker 1: Williams Junior, and I get that maybe legally he has
35:36
Speaker 1: the right to do this to improve his standing, to
35:39
Speaker 1: improve his position for the future, to improve his financial portfolio.
35:44
Speaker 1: I guess that he can wiggle his way out of contract.
35:47
Speaker 1: But I do wonder, like, what are we teaching our
35:50
Speaker 1: young people? I mean, is there any level of teaching commitment.
35:54
Speaker 1: I don't know of either one of you, and I
35:56
Speaker 1: know you both have young children. Ashley, you've already started
35:59
Speaker 1: the process of introducing Palmer to the new Little League
36:03
Speaker 1: system that we have, and Bucky, that's in your future
36:06
Speaker 1: for both your son and daughter as well, trying to
36:08
Speaker 1: navigate that entire travel sports world. But Cam Cleveland did
36:12
Speaker 1: this narration today where he said parents are a little
36:16
Speaker 1: bit responsible for this. If you're the parent that moved
36:18
Speaker 1: your kid around four times in high school to try
36:21
Speaker 1: to find the better opportunity and the better more playing time,
36:25
Speaker 1: or if you played on sixteen different travel league teams
36:27
Speaker 1: by the time you were nine years old. He goes
36:29
Speaker 1: into this sort of editorial about it that we've sort
36:34
Speaker 1: of created the mindset of a player, like if I'm
36:39
Speaker 1: not happy right now, I'll just leave, Or if I
36:42
Speaker 1: think I can be happier. I will just leave. Maybe
36:45
Speaker 1: we did skip a generation of teaching commitment, bucky, I
36:48
Speaker 1: don't know.
36:50
Speaker 5: Most certainly is not the same. I mean I can
36:52
Speaker 5: remember growing up the one thing that I was told
36:55
Speaker 5: by my parents, all right, so you want to wrestle,
36:58
Speaker 5: all right? You want to sign up for basketball? Yep,
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Speaker 5: all right. Once we do it, you're in. There's no quitting.
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Speaker 5: And that meant obviously not quitting the team and just
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Speaker 5: not play anymore, but it also would have included it
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Speaker 5: had there been opportunities. You don't get to just jump
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Speaker 5: over to another team if you like that one. I
37:13
Speaker 5: don't care if you got buddies over there. I don't
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Speaker 5: care if they're winning more, I don't care.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that funny that little league had better structure? Like
37:19
Speaker 1: we had some off season movement in little leagues, but
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Speaker 1: nobody could move over.
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Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I mean it is.
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Speaker 5: It's pretty silly that that little league actually is a
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Speaker 5: little bit more.
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Speaker 6: Sound when it comes to that. Now, I don't get
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Speaker 6: me wrong.
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Speaker 5: There is there is places and avenues and ways in
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Speaker 5: which people should be able to move up in whatever
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Speaker 5: field or sport or whatever you should be able to
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Speaker 5: take something and go somewhere else, but there has to
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Speaker 5: be rules to it. There just has to be otherwise
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Speaker 5: it's chaos. And you know, I mean, the reason that
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Speaker 5: our country is is better than some countries out there
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Speaker 5: is because it's less chaotic. There's more rules that kind
37:58
Speaker 5: of govern the way you go about things. We complained
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Speaker 5: sometimes about driving, Well, drive here and then go drive
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Speaker 5: in Venezuela, for example, not saying that because of what's
38:07
Speaker 5: recently went on in Venezuela. I've just driven there.
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Speaker 6: Chaos. They don't abide by the rules.
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Speaker 5: No one does, and when no one does, then you
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Speaker 5: can't abide by them or you just you're going to
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Speaker 5: get smashed. And so that's basically where we're at. I
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Speaker 5: think with college, you know sports right now, is that
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Speaker 5: you can't really abide by rules, even if you're somebody
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Speaker 5: that is committed. You know, you wanted to commit. You
38:31
Speaker 5: genuinely were like, ah, I'm signing with you, dub and
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Speaker 5: I'm going to purple rain tweets forever for me, and
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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they if someone brings someone
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Speaker 5: in in your position, you waited your turn for a
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Speaker 5: couple of years, and then the coach brings someone in
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Speaker 5: through the transfer portal because it helps him keep his
38:48
Speaker 5: job or maybe move up to a better job if
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Speaker 5: that's what he wants. Well, then you can't just say, well,
38:53
Speaker 5: I'm going to stay loyal at my own expense. You
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Speaker 5: have to then play the game. You got to jump
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Speaker 5: in the portal and go somewhere that you can play
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Speaker 5: and not be stepped over by the next best thing.
39:04
Speaker 5: And so it's a it's an ugly situation. And yet
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Speaker 5: when it comes down to stuff like this, there's got
39:09
Speaker 5: to be something. I don't know, if it's bad work
39:11
Speaker 5: by the lawyers that you dug. Something has to be
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Speaker 5: where you when you sign this you are now here
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Speaker 5: at least for this one year. Yeah, but the fact
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Speaker 5: that that is apparently not the case is just mind
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Speaker 5: boggling to me. And yet we're gonna have to see
39:25
Speaker 5: how this ugliness comes out in the wash. But maybe
39:27
Speaker 5: it's the ugly you know, straw that broke this canvas
39:30
Speaker 5: necessary evil. Yeah, maybe it's what had to happen in
39:33
Speaker 5: order to get the somebody to get their arms wrapped
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Speaker 5: around this thing.
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Speaker 2: I mean new Heiseel said the other day. There the
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Speaker 2: transfer portal is for for two different reasons. Right, You've
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Speaker 2: got the players that are looking for that opportunity because
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Speaker 2: maybe they're not getting it at the school that they're at.
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Speaker 2: And that's what's great about it is you're providing more
39:48
Speaker 2: opportunity for players.
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Speaker 1: Not when you're building the whole program around the guys.
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Speaker 2: Right exactly, it's and it's not it's not for ooh,
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Speaker 2: but I could get more money if I go here more,
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Speaker 2: you know, like one hundred five hundred thousand dollars more
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Speaker 2: than the five million dollars. I mean, that's this is
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Speaker 2: just abuse of the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And look, demand Williams is a heck
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Speaker 1: of a player, and I really was excited about him
40:12
Speaker 1: staying in a Washington uniform for at least one more season.
40:16
Speaker 1: But and now we're not going to get that, right,
40:19
Speaker 1: and now I want him to throw thirteen interceptions and
40:23
Speaker 1: have one touchdown pass correct here for LSU. I mean,
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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with Demond Williams Junior at this
40:29
Speaker 1: point that said this could be the unnecessary evil. I
40:33
Speaker 1: think that maybe when we look back at this twenty
40:36
Speaker 1: five years from now, will to discuss the Demond Williams
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Speaker 1: Junior case, because this feels so egregious on what the
40:43
Speaker 1: expectation was for NIL that I don't know if the
40:46
Speaker 1: NCAA is going to have any choice in the matter anymore.
40:50
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to treat it like the National Football League.
40:53
Speaker 1: You're going to have to put those rules, those guardrails
40:55
Speaker 1: in place that we've discussed this hour, and I think
40:58
Speaker 1: maybe this is the tipping point. It's unfortunately that it
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Speaker 1: had to happen to the program here in Seattle that
41:03
Speaker 1: we many of our listeners follow, and we cover here
41:07
Speaker 1: at KJR. It's unfortunate that we have to be such
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Speaker 1: an integral part of this story. But I do believe
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Speaker 1: this might be the case that does get us and
41:18
Speaker 1: force now the change necessary to make sense of college
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Speaker 1: football in this new world going forward. All right, Headlines
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