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The Season with Peter Schrager: Giants GM Joe Schoen, Geno Smith’s Unbelievable Season, Tua and the Dolphins, and a Deep Dive into the DJ Moore Helmet Removal Penalty · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger as a production of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Hey everybody, it is week
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  Speaker 1: nine of the NFL season, and you're listening to the
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  Speaker 1: Season with Peter Schreger. I am Peter Schreger. I'm here
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  Speaker 1: with my producer, Aaron Wong Kaufman. Aaron, how we doing,
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  Speaker 1: my friend? Pretty good man. It's another another good Tuesday morning,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm excited for the show today. Yeah, Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 1: So last night was Halloween. Real quick, I gotta say
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  Speaker 1: I love Halloween. I don't. I don't remember liking it
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  Speaker 1: in my twenties. I wasn't the guy who now that
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  Speaker 1: I have a kid, like it is the most fun,
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  Speaker 1: pure joy, electric feeling to be out there on the streets,
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  Speaker 1: like in a neighborhood trick or treating, and I think about, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how much fun these kids are having, how
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  Speaker 1: pure it all is. And then I think back to
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  Speaker 1: my twenties and early thirties when I was a single
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  Speaker 1: guy having to like get dressed up and be creative
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  Speaker 1: and go and try to you know, have this like
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  Speaker 1: a drunken night or whatever it was. Aaron, where are
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  Speaker 1: you in your life? Cycle right now? And where's your
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  Speaker 1: take on Halloween? You know, I've been all over. I
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  Speaker 1: had a couple great Halloween. So we're all about the
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  Speaker 1: costume and like going out and doing stuff. I think
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  Speaker 1: right before COVID, my girlfriend and I went to a
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  Speaker 1: party that was like two things parties, so you had
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  Speaker 1: to be a combination of two things. So my favorite
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  Speaker 1: costume there was Jonathan Van s and M which I
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  Speaker 1: just thought was like an incredible combo of things. We
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  Speaker 1: went as Interpol jumpers, so like the band Interpol and
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  Speaker 1: the Olympic sport pole jumping. Yeah that is so Brooklyn dude. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 1: so some fun things like that. But this year I
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  Speaker 1: didn't dress up at all. This year we went to
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  Speaker 1: the in four Green Park, the Pupkin Dog cost contests.
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  Speaker 1: Pumpkin Dog Contest. Are you ready for four downs? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's do it? Man? All right? First down near and
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  Speaker 1: dear to my heart, who's the MVP through the first
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  Speaker 1: eight weeks? Do you think? Okay? So it's like kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the halfway point of the season. I know
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  Speaker 1: they added weeks and then we say there's by way.
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  Speaker 1: I always look at going into week nine as the
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  Speaker 1: halfway point. I think Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are
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  Speaker 1: the leaders in the MVP conversation, but I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: spend this first down putting out a third name. Gino
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  Speaker 1: smit the service of MVP love. Let me get into
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  Speaker 1: it here. Seattle has won four of their last five games.
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  Speaker 1: Their only loss in that stretch, of course, was to
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  Speaker 1: the Saints in Week five. They have one double digit
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  Speaker 1: margins in the last three games. So they blew out Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: they blew out the Chargers, they beat the Giants this week,
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  Speaker 1: and you look at what Gino is doing. It's like
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  Speaker 1: this great soothing character of all these young players who've
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  Speaker 1: talked about their rookies. You go through Kenneth Walker and
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  Speaker 1: the two offensive tackles who are both rookies, and Kobe
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  Speaker 1: Bryant and terk Woollan and boy Am Offa. These are
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  Speaker 1: all rookies. They shouldn't be this good this soon. And
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  Speaker 1: then you've got this veteran leader in Gino Smith, who
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  Speaker 1: is thirty two years old on the fourth consecutive one
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  Speaker 1: year contract with the Seattle Seahawks. He has signed four
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  Speaker 1: different one year contracts, three of them to be Russ's backup.
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  Speaker 1: One of them to battle with Drew Locke, and what's
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  Speaker 1: he done? He has been like everything Shane Waldron's offense
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  Speaker 1: could ever ask him to be. He's third in QBR
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  Speaker 1: right now. He is right there with Josh Allen and
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  Speaker 1: all the different statics statistics. When it comes to completion percentage,
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  Speaker 1: he's first in completion percentage, and he's tied for fifth
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL with touchdowns, and he's got thirteen. Allen,
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  Speaker 1: of course is there with nineteen. I understand it. Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen and the bills of this runaway story, and he
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  Speaker 1: is the likely guy. And that's it. But if you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about a dark horse who was the darkest of
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  Speaker 1: all dark horses back in August, I think Gino's in
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  Speaker 1: the conversation Seattle right now. If this playoffs were to begin,
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  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks would be the three seat in the NFC.
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  Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks with no Russell Wilson, with no Bobby Wagner.
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  Speaker 1: They're five and three in their next five games. Downtrodden
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals team, downtrouted Buccaneers team in Munich. You think the
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  Speaker 1: last thing the Bucks want to do right now is
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  Speaker 1: get on a plane and go to Germany and play football,
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  Speaker 1: Like I cannot imagine a place that Brady and those
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  Speaker 1: guys want to go less than that, have to go
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  Speaker 1: internationally and not just be in their beds and like
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  Speaker 1: soak on these and like their wounds, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: Then they got the Raiders who might have thrown the
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  Speaker 1: towel in, and then of course they've got the NFC
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  Speaker 1: West opponents that are coming up after that. But like
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  Speaker 1: I look at this team, the Seahawks team, I don't
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  Speaker 1: see them getting any worse. I don't see them fading.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're telling me the next five games are
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Tampa, Raiders at RAMS and then the Carolina Panthers,
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  Speaker 1: we could be talking about a team that it is
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  Speaker 1: like fighting for that one or two seed in the
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  Speaker 1: NFC if they're doing that. Gino Smith thirty two year
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  Speaker 1: old Gino Smith on a one year contract where three
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  Speaker 1: million dollars is in the MVP conversation. All right, second down?
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  Speaker 1: Did two approve anything to you on Sunday? Or was
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  Speaker 1: that just a bad Lions defense? Well, Aubrey Pleasant, who's
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  Speaker 1: a friend of mine, was shown the door. He was
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  Speaker 1: defensive backs coach in Detroit and their defense has been putrid.
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  Speaker 1: Aubrey will bounce back and he'll find a gig. He's
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  Speaker 1: one of the good young coaches in the league. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that was just against a bad team.
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  Speaker 1: I think Tah is the real deal right now. And
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  Speaker 1: they are five and oh in games that Tua has
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  Speaker 1: started and completed this season. And on Sunday it was
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  Speaker 1: one of these deals where they're down big early and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we saw you do it against Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: early in the season. Can you do it again? Can
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  Speaker 1: you do it on the road again? And there's two
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  Speaker 1: just throwing buttery passes, like beautiful passes to Hill, to
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  Speaker 1: Waddle to Gasecki, And then you see things from Shirtfield
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  Speaker 1: and most are Tuah is that dude? And I think
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  Speaker 1: when Tua was gone and they lost three games, you
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  Speaker 1: start to realize, Okay, maybe this isn't just you know,
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  Speaker 1: a stop gap at quarterback, Toll their next guy. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: Tua is the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, not only
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  Speaker 1: for the next few years, but for the long term.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the numbers, and I'm not a huge stats guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know that, Aaron, but he leads the league in
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  Speaker 1: passer rating right now with one twelve. Okay, he leads
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  Speaker 1: the league in passing yards per attempt with nine yards
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  Speaker 1: per every time he throws the ball, and he is
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  Speaker 1: third in completion percentage, meaning he's reliable. Then you go
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  Speaker 1: to what those two wide receivers are doing and how
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  Speaker 1: he gets them the ball in the most perfect ways
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  Speaker 1: where sometimes it's behind the line of scrimmage and people
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  Speaker 1: want to roll their eyes and say, okay, well that's
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  Speaker 1: not a good No. He gets them in stride. He
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  Speaker 1: gets them in position to succeed. Right now, Tyreek, who
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  Speaker 1: I think I was one of them? I thought his
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  Speaker 1: numbers would decline. Not with Mahomes. He leads the league
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  Speaker 1: in receiving yards with nine hundred and sixty one. Stefan
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  Speaker 1: digs is too, justin Jefferson's three. You know who four
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  Speaker 1: is in the league, Jail and Waddle. They're first and
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  Speaker 1: fourth in receiving yards. They've combined for one thousand, six
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  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight receiving yards this season. That is
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  Speaker 1: the most from a teammate duo in the first eight
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  Speaker 1: games of a season since the Super Bowl era began
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six. Okay, that is how good these
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  Speaker 1: two have been. They're doing stuff that Isaac Bruce and
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  Speaker 1: Tory Holt never did. And right now, you look at
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  Speaker 1: the numbers, Tyreek hills on pace for two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: forty two receiving yards in his first year in Miami.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that would break the record for most receiving
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  Speaker 1: yards in a season. I gotta tell you, I think
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  Speaker 1: Tyreek has something with Tuah. I think Waddle has something
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  Speaker 1: with Tua, and I think Tuah has something in that
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  Speaker 1: locker room. I was hesitant to crown twa too early,
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  Speaker 1: honestly I was. And then when he left the lineup
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  Speaker 1: and that team took a major step back, I said,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's see. I thought sundays win against Detroit
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  Speaker 1: was important. It showed that they can win on the
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  Speaker 1: basis of Tuah and on Tuah's arm, and he was
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  Speaker 1: sublime in that game. Yeah, all right. Last week we
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  Speaker 1: did a little bit of a rule breakdown, So let's
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  Speaker 1: do another one third down. What's the taking off the
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  Speaker 1: helmet rule? And why is it the DJ Moore got
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  Speaker 1: penalized if he was behind the end zone? What happened there?
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  Speaker 1: Second week in a row, We've got a call and
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  Speaker 1: I want to go like forty eight hours after it
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  Speaker 1: was made before we get out to the next week
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  Speaker 1: to kind of discuss it. And I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: great question because I still don't know this DJ Moore
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  Speaker 1: thing happened with the Carolina Panthers, and it's not the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and it's not the Kansas City Chiefs, and
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't on Sunday Football. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's going to get the play that a controversial call
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  Speaker 1: usually would. But let's go through it here. Because the
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  Speaker 1: rule states it is a penalty if there is a
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  Speaker 1: removal of his own helmet by a player in the
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  Speaker 1: field of play or the end zone during a celebration
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  Speaker 1: or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official
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  Speaker 1: or any other player. That's the letter of the law.
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  Speaker 1: So the exact rule is quite clear. It is only
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  Speaker 1: a foul for a player to remove his helmet to
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  Speaker 1: celebrate if he is in the field of play or
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  Speaker 1: the end zone. Watch the replay like almost like a
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  Speaker 1: fruit footage. More is neither in the end zone or
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  Speaker 1: in the field of play when he removes his helmet.
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  Speaker 1: When the helmet comes off, he's out of the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know. It doesn't matter that he returned
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  Speaker 1: to the end zone quickly without his helmet. There's no
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  Speaker 1: foul for being in the end zone without a helmet.
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  Speaker 1: The foul and the rule book is if you remove
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  Speaker 1: your helmet in the end zone. The language specifically says
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  Speaker 1: remove and then Perry Fuel, who is you know, the
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  Speaker 1: voice of the refs right now works in the league office,
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  Speaker 1: was a very fine job. He came out on Monday
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  Speaker 1: Night Football and he was explaining it and he was
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  Speaker 1: saying that, well, maybe it was identified wrong because there
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  Speaker 1: was other players who took off their helmets. Well in
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  Speaker 1: that case, is it not on more? Then you get
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  Speaker 1: to this thing where it's like I think it might
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  Speaker 1: have been Larry Flint. I don't mean I'm going off
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  Speaker 1: script here. It's completely and it was like if it
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  Speaker 1: looks like porn, it's porn, right, Like so Dj Moore
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  Speaker 1: ripped his helmet off, Like it looked like he ripped
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  Speaker 1: his helmet off. Do we really want to go through
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  Speaker 1: whether it was technically in the end zone ver he
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  Speaker 1: was in the out of the end zone, like we
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  Speaker 1: know the rule is to not take off your helmet.
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  Speaker 1: Emmett Smith rule. It's called from nineteen ninety seven. He
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  Speaker 1: clearly rips off his helmet, but it's like almost like
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  Speaker 1: a toe drag swag catch on the sidelines, like or
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  Speaker 1: his feet in or not. If you're a Panthers fan,
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  Speaker 1: you could be very angry right now. And the letter
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  Speaker 1: of the law, that guy did not remove his helmet
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  Speaker 1: until he was out of the end zone, and there
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  Speaker 1: might not have been a flag. But if you're a
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  Speaker 1: common sense fan, you look at that, you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he ripped his helmet off in the field, like you're
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  Speaker 1: not supposed to do that. It's dangerous or it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: two celebratory whatever. I think both sides have a point.
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  Speaker 1: But if we're gonna be rule book people, like we
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  Speaker 1: are in the NFL and we're gonna check the letter
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  Speaker 1: of the law and we're gonna bank on that, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think DJ Moore committed a penalty. All right, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: fourth down? Who do you want to shout out this week?
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  Speaker 1: I want to shout out Terry McLaurin a right. Terry
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  Speaker 1: mclauren was born in Indianapolis, raised in Indianapolis, went to
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  Speaker 1: Cathedral High School. Was Indiana's miss football in high school
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: and it comes back to Indiana against the Colts, and
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  Speaker 1: in the biggest of ways, it has an amazing homecoming.
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  Speaker 1: Six catches on eight targets one hundred and thirteen yards,
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  Speaker 1: including the huge, huge thirty three yard pass completion at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the drive that was an eighty six
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  Speaker 1: yard drive from Hinak to basically save the Commander's season.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm being, you know, a hyperbolic in
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  Speaker 1: that this is now a four and four team. In
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  Speaker 1: the thick of it, in the NFC twenty six or
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  Speaker 1: seconds remain, he basically mosses a dude, and the dudey
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  Speaker 1: Moss was Stefan Gilmour, who's probably a top five cornerback
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  Speaker 1: of his generation, and McLaurin just goes and snatches it.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, it puts him within the one yard line,
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  Speaker 1: and then Hinak takes care of the rest. But then
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  Speaker 1: after the game in the locker room, there's great footage
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  Speaker 1: of all of mclaurin's like boys from high school. Like
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  Speaker 1: there's like a crew of like six of them, all
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  Speaker 1: wearing McLaurin shirts, all wearing McLaurin jerseys, and they're like
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  Speaker 1: celebrating kids like and I don't know, if I'm being
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  Speaker 1: overly sympathetic or it's or sentimental or whatever it is, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just I love that. Like I think that is
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  Speaker 1: what it's all about. Your boys from high school who
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  Speaker 1: are not in the NFL, your boys from high school
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  Speaker 1: who are doing their own thing, getting to see you
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  Speaker 1: play in the NFL, and then getting to hang out
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room after you make the game winning play.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the NFL is all about. I'm gonna shout
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  Speaker 1: out Terry McLaurin, Welcome home, mister football, who gave the
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  Speaker 1: Washington Commanders a huge, huge win, but also gave his
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  Speaker 1: boys and his family something to smile about on the
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: ride home, probably five minutes away from where that game
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  Speaker 1: was played. Yeah, that was. He looked incredible in that game,
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  Speaker 1: and the emotion he had on the sideline after that
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  Speaker 1: catch was so energy like it just loved watching him there.
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  Speaker 1: What do you got, dude? Fourth down? You give me something?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Who do you want to shout out? All right? I
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: mean this, we've we've talked a lot about some of
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: these rookie running backspan a lot of Breeze Hall talk,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Kenneth Walker, a lot of those veteran
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  Speaker 1: running backs were great this week. Kamara and CMC each
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  Speaker 1: had their tenth game with a rushing and receiving touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to talk about Derrick Henry. Yes, his
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  Speaker 1: fourth career game with at least two hundred rushing yards
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  Speaker 1: and two rushing touchdowns against Texans against one team. He's
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  Speaker 1: done that with Dadian Thompson, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown. They
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  Speaker 1: did that three times total over their career. Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 1: has done it six total times, four of those times
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  Speaker 1: against the Texans. He is I love watching him. He
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: looks unreal whenever he's out there. It's so fun as
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: the season progresses, just watching him get stronger and stronger.
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  Speaker 1: He feels like like I don't know, like a robot.
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  Speaker 1: He's incredible to watch and I just loved watching him.
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  Speaker 1: He also had his second touchdown in that game, was
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  Speaker 1: his seventy fifth career touchdown, and he has now set
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee franchise record, which was incredible. Passes Eddie George. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so now the Titans are in first like is
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  Speaker 1: this this? Yeah? I look, this is what they do
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: and it's funny like they trade away a J. Brown
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  Speaker 1: and everyone says, well, they're not gonna, you know, be
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  Speaker 1: able to compete because they don't have a wide receiver.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: That's not really their offense. When things are clicking, it's
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna be bullies, just like their head coach
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  Speaker 1: is a bully, like Raybell is not a finesse guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's they run the ball downder throat. And they've got
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  Speaker 1: two all world players and those All World players are
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Jeffrey Simmons. Who's their defensive end slash tackle,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: who is in on every play. But Aaron, I go
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: back to the offseason. We do Good Morning Football and
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: we have to talk so much hypothetical, so much well,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: who would you rather have this guy or this guy?
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: It was all about Jonathan Taylor this summer, and it
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: was like the crown has been seized. The crown has
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: been taken, and like, I think there's something to be
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: said for that Titans team and for that offensive line
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: and for Derrick Henry and their offensive coordinator Todd Downing
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  Speaker 1: to be like, yo, we heard that, and I'll say
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  Speaker 1: it again. The stat you just mentioned, Barry Sam had
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  Speaker 1: three two hundred rushing yard games where he had two
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns Jim Brown had three of them, but Damian
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Thomilton at three of them. Derrick Henry has had four
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: against the Texans. That's insane. Great shout out, dude, Derrick
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  Speaker 1: Henry's the man. Ladies and gentlemen, We're very excited for
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: our Week nine guest of the season with Peter Schreeger.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: He is a first year general manager in the Big Apple,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: but he is so much more than that. He is
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a great talent of evaluator, a great family man, and
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: a great visionary in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, let's
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: get to know Joe Shane, Joe, what is up man?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Thanks for having me. I love that
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: you are joining us during the season. Now, this is
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: fresh off the loss in Seattle, so it's the bye week.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: What's the first year in New York been? Like? I mean,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: as a as a person in this backyard, Giants fans
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: are elated right now, regardless of the loss in Seattle,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like that, this is exceeding expectations. But for you, you
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: got here in January and now you're here and it's
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: all these months later, we're heading towards Thanksgiving. Like, what's
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: it been like? Yeah, it's been awesome. It's been it's
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: been a lot of fun. You know, early on, you know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: trying to feel my way through. You know, again it's
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the first time doing it. And then you know, getting
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: day Ball in the building, making the head coaching hire
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: was was big. And then you know, getting the draft process.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: You're going through that and you know, I brought in
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Brandon Brown as my assistant general manager, so you know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you're you're working with a staff you you've never been
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: through a draft before, You've never been through meetings before.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: So just going through that first time with without really
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: knowing some of your staff members, and then you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: post draft, being able to bring in some some other
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: people on the personnel side that I was familiar with,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that are that are very good at their jobs, and
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: you know, again just put in the right people in
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the right seats. Um. I think it's been very important.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: And you know, Brian obviously did that with his his
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: coaching staff and then you know some of the personnel
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: changes and then obviously the early success early on. Uh,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you know, it's been good. It's been good. It's been
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. It's been a fun ride.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Six and two we still have a lot of work
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: to do, but we're off to a really good start,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and I think that's important when you know there's new leadership,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: new regime. You know, people talk about culture changes. To
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: see that there are some positive results and dividends early on,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you know, where you can kind of trust the process
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and what we're implementing. And the players have been unbelievable
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: with their buying. Yeah, I mean, you guys have made
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: tough decisions because you've got the salary cap nightmare walking
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: into this thing and you're like, all right, we got
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to get rid of this player, gotta get rid of
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: that player. You had to make a trade of a
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: former first round pick. You don't seem scared to pull
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the trigger where the trigger you feel like it is
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: necessary to be made. Where do you get that from?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: And is that kind of the only way you know
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: how to do Let's be fearless and just make decisions
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: whether they're going to be popular or not. Yeah, it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: that you got to do what's best for the organization.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And Dave's and I talk all the time, and everything
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: we do is going to be for you know, best
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: for the organization, where it's short term or long term.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's important you do have a short term vision,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and you know that's kind of where coaches are naturally.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: It's it's week to week and you know how to
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: coach one. A head coach tell me one time, he's like,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know, every week is like the draft for the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: coaching staff. You know, it's it's that important. You know
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the amount of work you got to put into it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And then you know, again with Dave's we're constantly talking
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: big sure is as well, and you know what do
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: these moves look like two to three years down the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: line or you know whatever it may be. So yeah, again,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you just if you have the best interest to the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: franchise in mind, and it's a it's a you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: conscious effort to do the right thing and you've done
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: your research. You know, I have no problem pulling the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: trigger on you know whatever, moving a player you're training
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: for a player. Again, we're just always gonna do its
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: best for the organization. The draft was an exciting time
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in New York because both you and the Jets had
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: two top ten picks and it's like, here's this rebirth
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of both these franchises with fresh blood in both buildings.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeaux the fifth overall pick. There was so much
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: talk about this guy, does he love football, what's his priorities?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And then the Giants get on the clock and it's
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: like fifth overall. You've heard his name rumor to the Jets,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you've heard his name, not much to the Giants. Then boom,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeau is the pick and he has been outstanding
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the last few weeks. Could take us into that draft
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: process and what you guys liked in Katie and kind
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of how you blocked out all the noise and you
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: got to know the player himself. Yeah, there was a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: lot of noise, and you know, again, just the more
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: more time we spent with him, he was just He's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: a big personality. He's a great kid. He's um, he's smart,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: he's a hard worker, he plays his butt off. He's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: done everything we've asked him to do. And you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: as we went through the process, I love being around him.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: We had a couple of dinners with him, spent time
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: with the combine Dave's and I FaceTime name you know,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: right before the draft, you know, he answered the phone
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and you know we just kind of you know, hey,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Just small talk, just you know, very
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: casual conversation outside of the formal interviews and the x's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and those and and all that stuff. And you know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I took a real liking to him, and at the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, there was just I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: didn't have any concerns with with the kid. And again,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I know some people worry about you know, the nils
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and you know, people having a you know, some of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: these kids have a staff now and they're making you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars a year as college kids.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't needed a staff
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: too if I was twenty one or twenty two and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of companies were coming at me and needed
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: my time and offering me money. So you know, it's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: just an generation of kids and a new time for
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: us that's a little bit unchartered waters And you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the more you went through it with Cavan, he was
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: actually really smart in the way he set up some
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of his nil stuff to avoid any type of distraction.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So I like the kid. He's a culture fit for us.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He's doing a great job, and you know he's gonna
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be one of those foundational pieces that we continue to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: build this thing. Yeah, it's your first draft and you've
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: been you know, in scouting since two thousand and one.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: You get this opportunity to draft and out of the gates.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I know two of them are injured, but like Evan
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Neil was playing well, Daniel Bellinger was playing well. You
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: look at that rookie class and for the Giants fans listening, like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: just give us a little ninety seconds or an elevator
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: speech on what you like from this crew and why
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you'll always be close to them as your first draft class. Yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I like the class a lot. And right now, you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I have my our and let us department do a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of a rookie playtime report each week.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it for years and right now we're
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: fourth in the league and rookie playtime so we're having success.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: We're six and two and the rookies are contributing and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: getting valuable experience. And again, there's not a lot of
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: rookies that are come in that are you know, instant
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: coffee and they have to go through their ups and downs.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, Evan Neil, I think, you know, take
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: out the Dallas game. It was Monday night. Um, all
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: eyes were on you and they have a really good
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: defensive line and you know, otherwise, I think he's played
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: really well. He's our type of guy, smart, tough and dependable.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Cavan's in the same boat again. He was hurt, you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: coming off the knee, and as he's continued to get healthy.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: You know, you've seen you know, the flashes, not just
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: versued the run, but the past you know, still the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: play where he ran down you know ETN and the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville game, you know, Wan Dell the same thing. Yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: it's amazing because Evan had an MCL, Cavon had an MCL.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: One Dell had an MCLs. Like I got three guys
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: with ACL, so they have been banked up, but one
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Dell had an MCL as well. And you know, now
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that he's come back, he's going to be a big
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: part of our offense moving forward. Uh, clear defined plan
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: for him, you know, with Daves and his offensive system
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in Kafka. Josh A Zudu started and played one hundred
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: percent of snaps for US against Seattle. He's a young
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: guard that we really like, you know, bright future for him.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Cordell Flott, you know, started and played some games. You again,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: he's got a calf right now, he's gonna be back.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Bellinger and Belton fourth round picks that have
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: both contributed, both have bright future star startup potential, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: both of those guys, and then, um, you know the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: fifth round guys, Michael McFadden he played twenty seven snaps
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: on defense the other day for us. He's playing well
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and doing special teams. And then you know, we got
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the back three guys that all tour acls, Davidson, mckeithan
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and Beavers who were having all having good camps and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we were relying on them. So you know, on the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: eleven guys, I'm really excited. You know, they're the right
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: type of guys. They're good foundational pieces that you know
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: will be contributors, you know, for years to come. Yeah,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: one last question about the current roster. Obviously, I've got
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to ask a Daniel Jones question. What have you seen
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: from him so far? And already you know in this market,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it's what's the long term extension. I'm not going to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: press you on that, but um, you gotta at least
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: be pleasantly surprised or not. Maybe you saw this like
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: this kid as tough as nails and he's playing really well. Yeah, no,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: he Daniel's tough, he's competitive, another guy who does everything
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: he can and to maximize his ability. He's in here early. Again,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: it's our it's our off day, the players are off.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I saw him in there at seven thirty this morning
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: at breakfast. So he's a gym rat. He's always around.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He's gonna do whatever he can, like I said, to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: maximize his ability. So he's played well. You know, I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: know the big story out there is the fourth quarter comebacks.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's legit. You know. One of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: drives I think about was when we were in London
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: against Green Bay. We had a fifteen play drive for
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. Sa Quan got hurt on the first play,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: so you know, say Quan's out for the other you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: he went seventh freight on the drive and that the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: incompletion was a was a throwaway. So he's taking care
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: of the football. We're not turning it over. And you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: again we've had you know, now we've got a couple
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: injuries on the offensive line. We've had some injuries a receiver. Unfortunately,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a revolving door with with
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: who he's throwing too. And that's just kind of where
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: we are based on, you know, the salary cap and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: where we were in the off season. But um, you'll
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: never hear the guy complained, and you know he's playing
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: well for us. I love it. Um, all right, So
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you're the general manager of the New York Football Giants. Dude,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: let's go back to the kid from Indiana who played
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: it to Paul and played quarterback and wide receiver. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and one you get an internship in
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the ticketing department with the Carolina Panthers. Take us through
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: what the next step is and how you find yourself
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: even in position to enter the scouting world. Yeah, it's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. So it was. It was actually January two thousand,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: so it was my junior year of college. And you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Carolina played a game against Green Bay or maybe it's
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, but they had to beat beat New Orleans
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: by X amount of points and Green Bay had to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those deals to get in
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they didn't do it. So my first
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: day on the job, the season's over. I'm in the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: ticket office at the time, there was four or five
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: people in the ticket office, so it wasn't a big
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: staff and I was during like winter break. So yeah, yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: At De Paul University have a great program. It's called
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: winter Term. So your freshman year you have to stay
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: on campus, which is great. You take one class, it's
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: all freshman on campus. It's a blast sophomore, junior, senior year, internship,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: travel abroad, whatever it may be. I would recommend anybody
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that's doing it to do an internship because if you
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: want to be an accountant and you go work for
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: ers and young for that month and you're like this sucks.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: At least you know your account more year versus before
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you get your degree, right, That's kind of the purpose
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: of it. So anyways, my junior year, my mom had
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: a business in NASCAR. She was living in North Carolina.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Knew the neighbor of the neighbor to the ticketing manager.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a three week internship. Phil Yazzi was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: his name, come on in and then it happened to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: be this season was over again, so I'm taking inventory
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: as suites and taking phone calls and everything. We got
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to know the people there and when it was over
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: They're like, hey, if you want to work training camp,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you in contact with the assistant full operations.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Guy's name is Brandon Bean. I'm like all right, So
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I stayed in contact with Brandy. He's like, yeah, come
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: on down for training camp. You can work. And so
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: on July eleventh of two thousand, my twenty first birthday,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: was my first day, you know, went to Charlotte. My
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: mom dropped me off like I was going to camp
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: or you know, backed lunch exactly exactly, and uh, you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: we got in the buses and we went down to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: set up training camp in Spartanburg. So Brandon I became
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: fast friends. Uh, you know, working for him. You know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: we played basketball training camp. Him and I are both
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: uber competitive, so uh, we were on the same team
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to start off training camp a few times, and you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: we became fast friends. And that training camp was you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: setting up beds, TVs in the rooms, uh, stocking the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: coaches with gator raids while they're at practice, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And then um, you know, fast
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: forward to the next you know, February. In between then
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it was my senior year. I had a couple of
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: job offers. Um, you know, the story goes. You know,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Striker offered me a job. It was my first interview
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I'd ever. I'd never been on an interview before. Striker
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a medical device cochetical device company. I had buddies I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: played with that we're working there and loving it and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, it's good money, and I couldn't make up
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: my mind. And literally the Friday I'm going to meet
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Brandon in Indianapolis at the Combine because when I went
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to school to Paul's only forty five in from Indianapolis.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I had to tell Monday to ax that contract back.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: They called me on Friday before I left to meet
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Brandon and they pulled the offer. They're like, if you
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: haven't made up your mind yet, then this isn't for you.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And it's a good company. I under I understand where
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: they're coming from. So went at dinner with Brandon that night.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: He said, we'll find something for you. Let me, you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: give me some time. And then you know, luckily they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: had a guy retire and a scouting department and they
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: had a scouting assistant job open up. So um, Brandon called,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you know I when and I interviewed for here's the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: other funny part about that. So I interviewed for the job,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and you know the old adage, I just want to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: get my foot in the door. Yeah, I can't, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that's what you say. Well, it's this old school guy
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh, Jack Bouschowski. I love the death. Can you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: cuss on it? I don't know if guy cuss on
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: your body. So I'm like, you know, this senior in college,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I just want to get my foot into the door.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want somebody wants to get their
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: foot in the door. I want someone wants to scout.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, let's go. I'm not getting this job.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So uh So, anyways, I go through the interview process,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I get back to school and I know this because
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the guy who was replacing as a scouting
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: assistant is is a very good friend of mine. And
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: they offered the job to a kid from Slippery Rock
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: because he was from Pittsburgh and Slippery Rocks in Pennsylvania
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: kind of the Pittsburgh ties. They he calls him like
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: a seven thirty in the morning, and the kid answers
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the phone like, oh, you know, like he's sleeping hung
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: over sleeping. So he hangs up the phone. He calls
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: my buddy, He's like, hey, give me that Joe Shane
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Kid's number, calls me and offers me the job because
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that guy sounded like he was incredible. Yeah, that guy
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: right now is the general manager of X team. No, no,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: he's I don't know who he is or what, but anyway,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: so I know it's kind of a long story, but yeah,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the two thousand kidding it's great. Yeah, and it also
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: tells a lesson because I mean, we watch, we watch
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: all this stuff and then you get these fantasy football experts. Ever,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: because I could be a GM, I could be a gym.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: You started because you put yourself out there and you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: wanted it, and you turned down a job for less money.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And then Brandon for those listening, no, obviously is now
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: executive of the Years with the Buffalo Bills. But I remember,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I remember Brandon when he was in the public relations department. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: he he started kind of the same path and worked
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: over to the football side. And again his was just
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: getting your foot in the door and then you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: working your tail off, and that's what you know. One
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: of the stories I tell with Brandon too. Is about
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: two weeks in a camp, I called my mom. I'm like, yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: this sucks, Brandon, this Brandon bean guys got me. You
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: got him five to thirty every morning making the you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: know coffee for the coaches. And um, what happened was
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I did it for the first two mornings. We had
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a special teams coach. It always wanted his coffee at
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: five thirty had to be you know, made and ready,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and so I did it for the first two days
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and the third day the guy didn't wake up and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: do it, so it missed it. So Brandon gets his
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: butt chewed out because that coffee's not ready. Then you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: get it, Joe, I can count on you the first
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: two days to do it. So unfortunately, for now on
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: every morning and training camp, you have to get up
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: at five thirty, walk over to the coach's office and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: make coffee. So, you know, my mom said, well, sometimes
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you know, you get punished for being good at your job,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and you know you're dependable, so you know that's a
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: task you're gonna have to do, and you know she
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: was right on and again that earned Brandon's trust, which
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: then you know down the road, you know he trusted
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to give my name to somebody to eventually hire me
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: as a as a staff member. So so yeah, it
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: was cool. Yeah, it's it's funny how it worked out
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: when you really look back at it, you know, it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: an interesting story. But yeah, then two thousand and one,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I was a scouting assistant for a year, you know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: making highlight tapes, you know, picking people up to the airport,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: just helping out a practice, doing anything I could do
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to you know, to show out was worthy of. No
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: job was too big for me, and then they could
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: depend on me to do the job and do it right. Yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and Carolina had some really good years. And then something
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you know that's a skip forward ten years or so,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: but something that really plays in this New York market
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: is that, you know, you have a connection to Bill Parcels.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Could you take us through that connection and how you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and the two and I got to know each other. Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: So when I was an area scout with the Carolina Panthers,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I was living they moved me to uh. I actually
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: lived in Frisco, Texas where the Cowboys facility is now,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: is way before any of that stuff was there. But
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you know, we'd fly in for meetings three or four
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: times year, draft meetings and stuff. Well, we had Dan
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Henning was our offensive coordinator, like best friends with coach Parcels. Well.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Dan never bought a condo or a house or anything
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in Charlotte, so he lived in the residence in where
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: we stayed at scouts. It was right next he lived
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: in a hotel Inteme, so you know, anytime we'd go there,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: you know, he was happy as I'll get out because
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: now it's got seven or eight guys to hang out with.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: And he was a great storyteller and a ton of
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: football knowledge. So I love Dan Hending. He was He
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was awesome, great mentor for me. And you know Bill
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: was one of his best friends. So when Bill went
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: to Miami in two thousand and eight, Dan was hired
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator and brought my name up to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Jeff Ireland. I knew Jeff, but you know, we weren't
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say we were like friends or
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if I had a cell number
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: at the time, but we knew each other just from
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: passing in the scouting circle. Went down and interviewed as
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a national scout, covering the entire country instead of just
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: doing an area and was able to get the job.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Then and then yeah, first I remember my first draft
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: meeting being around coach Parcels and you're just, uh, you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna give your opinion and there's coach Parcels who's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: won super Bowls. You know it when his eyes are
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: like validating because I because I've worked with Sean Payton
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: on Fox and the amount of Parcels stories he tells
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and just everything is a busting chops. But was he
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: like encouraging or was he you don't know anything? Yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. I actually asked me
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to have more of a voice in the meeting. He's like, Joe,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you've seen the entire country, Like, speak up more. And
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I was like feeling out the room. It
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: was a staff that had been together. You know. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: was trying to feel my way through the dynamics. But
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: he was a great coach. He would not just obviously
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: football and everything else, but he he would always say,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you know why we would do this, or you know
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: why we're making this roster decision, or why are you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: guys thinking this way in a meeting when you know
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: why take a projection in the first round when you
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: got this guy who's had production of a position it's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a known commodity or you know this is what you know.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: He just had so much knowledge, he say, you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: what Tom Landry used to tell me, Like, oh my god,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: so Tom Landry told build parselves and about to tell me.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: You know, I got a ton of notes from my
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: from my time with him, and he's just a great
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: sounding board to this day. You know when I was
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: going through the process talking to him, and um, just
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge and a great human being. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you know he truly cares about you. And you know
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you talk all the players and coaches and other gms
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that have worked for him that still stay in contact
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: with him and use him as a valuable resource. Did
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you get together with him in Saratogodoll? Did you try
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: to make the journey now that you're with the Giants?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I need to, I need to. I know Chris Merra
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: goes up there quite a bad He's got some horses
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: up there, and Dan Henning spends a lot of time
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: up there, So I'd like to get up there. We
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: try to get him to come through in August. It
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: just h you know, the timing didn't work out, but yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I would love for him to get around or or
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: get up there at some point. Yeah, you know, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: find all of your stories, General Manager is so interesting
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: because take these circuitous routes to where you are. Give
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: me this this answer the player that you scouted that
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you take the most pride in in that I banged
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the table for this guy, or I saw him in
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: a in a random game that no one else was
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: talking about. And then this guy got to the NFL
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and didn't have to have an all World's career, but
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: like made a name from them, and I was that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: first set of eyes, or I was that voice in
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the war room on any of your stops, whether it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: being Carolina or Buffalo or Miami. Who was that guy
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: that you take a lot of pride in and you
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: hear that name and like something clicks and you're like,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: you know what that was, my dude? Oh man, that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: always hard to do. One of the things I'm most
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: proud of is probably that first draft class in Buffalo.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I know that's you're looking for one in particular, but no, no,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it's okay. It's hard when you're going through a draft
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and I just went through it again. When when when
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you don't have continuity and you don't know everybody, so
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you kind of you have a smaller circle and who
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you can trust. But I mean that first draft class
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and Brandon Brandon was very good. He's like, hey, when
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we drafted Cam Newton, we were so focused on the quarterback.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: The rest of the draft was not so great. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: we have to make sure if we're looking for a
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: quarterback that we still got everything else. You know, eyes
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: dotted tea's cross. And when you look at that class,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Tremaine, Edmonds, Harrison Phillips just got paid by Minnesota,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Karen Johnson got paid by Buffalo. Uh srand Neil just
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: got paid by Buffalo. Wyatt Teller's a two time All Pro.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: They got paid by Cleveland. I wish we wouldn't have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: trade anybody. Ray Ray mcclouds still in the league. Still
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: in the league. Again, I tell you, I do that
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: rookie playtime report, like that class is number one right
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: now in Rookie playtime. You know, to this day you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: look three, four or five years down the road. So um,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I know that's not one player, but I'm proud of that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: You have pride in it. That was Brandon. I you know,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: our first year together. You know a stat we had.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: People don't realize this or I don't know if they
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: do or not, but they fired the entire pro scouting
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: staff and every single person and didn't do it until July.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: So you guys got their win, Like we got there July.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: They did it right after the draft. So they did
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: it right after the draft, and I'm like, you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: it's a team that hadn't been in the playoffs in
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: seventeen years. It's like, Brandon, how are we going to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: get people to you know, and people aren't letting good
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: scouts go and so we got We got very lucky
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: with this. I mean, look at this our original staff.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, Marvin Allen's now assistant GYM with Miami, he
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: was there. Brian Gaye on to become the GM of
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: the Texans um you know, we just had. I mean,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: we had a uh Lake Dawson. You know, it's been
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: a VP before, like Malik Boy, Terrence Gray. Like, we
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: were able to put together a really really good staff
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: with experience in youth and you know that made those meetings.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: You know, again, it goes back to the scouting staff,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: the guys with the boots on the ground and all
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: these schools. Um it was very important. That was a
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: daunting task to you know, to hire an entire scouting
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: staff in the month of May pro and college. When
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you saw Josh Allen tape, what do you think, Oh, man,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget one of the scouts. Still reminds me
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: all the day. Like his game against Nebraska. He threw
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: four interceptions and I gave him a plus. You know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that was a good game. That was a good game.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the thing with Josh is like, if you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: like the player, he's even a better person. Like you
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: can't like, I love the human being, like the way
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: what he's about. He's wired right, he's like the players great,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: but the person's even better. And we fell in love
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: with the us And you know when we were doing
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: our certain research back and you know, the spring in
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft has shaken out. In that first draft,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the first time Brandon's in the big seat, first time
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: here in your chair, and we see Baker go, and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: we see Darnold go, and then of course, you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: say Quan and quittin Nelson, you guys, you get aggressive
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and you go and get a quarterback. Do you remember
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the conversations going into it, like if this guy slips,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Like what was the talk when you were like, let's
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: go make that move. Yeah, well we knew early on
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and if so, we had we were twenty one and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: twenty two when the season ended. We ended up making
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the playoffs that year. We had Kansas City's pick two
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and we used a Corty Glenn. We traded to Cincinnati,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: so we stopped like twenty one to twelve, and that
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: got us in range. But again we were trying to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: move up. You know, we couldn't move to one. Dorsey
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: wouldn't trade one, Dave Gettlman wouldn't trade two. Three was
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the Jets. They weren't going to trade with us, and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: they made a move early on with the Colts. We
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: were actually literally working out Josh. I'm snapping the ball
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to Josh at Wyoming and I get this update on
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: my Apple Watch and it said the Jets traded with
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the Colts, and I'm just like at number three, am like,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you know, we couldn't have everything. Yeah, I didn't met
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: with the guys yet, so you know, we were in
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a position to move up because we had to make
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: sure that there's somebody that we were gonna actually like,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you know, we saw the film, but you know that's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: a position. You gotta get to know the kids too.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So anyways, we had something in place with Denver, but
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: their guy was there, which ended up being Chum. You know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Cleveland ended up staying at four and taking awards. So
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you know, when Jason Light got on the phone, you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: we had some talks back and forth and it you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: we're haggling, Um hung up and then they called back.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Brandon got on the phone with Jason, and that was
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the first time somebody was willing to do business with us,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: um where we could take the you know, take the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: quarterback that we wanted. So it was cool. We took
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: him at seven. Kind of everybody was relieved, you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: we're happy. And then you know, Tremaine was still up
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: there and we said, let's let's go get Tremaine. And uh,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: it's funny. We ended up you know, being able to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: get Tremaine with a you know third round pick that
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: we used. You know, we traded Tyrode to Cleveland for
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the first pick of the round. That allowed us to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: go up and get Tremaine, so we had some You're
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: getting draft capital and draft picks give you currency on
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: draft data to move around and make some of those moves.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: If you don't have the currency, it's it's it's tough
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to move around. But yeah, that was an exhilarating evening
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to say the least. And it's a good bridge to
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: my next thing, because you know we're here recording this
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: week nine. Ryan Poles, first year general manager of Chicago
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: trades a franchise, you know, Star and Raccon Smith, but
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: he gets a second and a fifth and now they've
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: got draft picks. And as a general manager, I always say,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: like I talk to you guys, it's you don't have
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to get them all right, but the more bats you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: have at the plate, the better. And I think you know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: with what the Giants have coming up, like you guys
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: are pretty stocked and ready for the next few drafts,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you have to like what you have moving forward as
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: far as the young players on relatively inexpensive contracts, and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: then how good you guys are at analyzing college talent
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and being able to identify those next next great pros. Yeah,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: we have nine picks going in next year. You know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: financially we'll be in a better shape. And then you
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: know the good thing, you know what the roster is.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: There's some players that were here before I got here
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that are are good young talent, you know, Andrew Thomas, Dexter,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Xavier McKinney, Julian Love, Say, Quan Daniel you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: they're the Daniel Jones. There's there's pieces in place, um
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that we're here previously that you know, hey, if they
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: continue to you know, perform at their their level, you know,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: they're you know, you take care of your own and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: then you add a couple of draft classes, you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: some supplement someone free agency and um, you know again
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and start building it the right way, bringing in our
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: type of guys. So yeah, I mean I'm excited about
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the future. Um, you know, we had a plan in place,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: we've been able to execute it this far, and um,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I think we'll be in you know, getting financially,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be much better shape this offseason and give
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: some flexibility and free agency and then having nine picks
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you know, gives you you know options there to continue
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to add young foundational pieces. Um on top of the
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: draft class that we have this year. So yeah, I'm
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: excited how things are going at six and two right
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: now at the bye week. You know, coaching staff's done
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: amazing job. Personnel pro in college, they've done a really
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: good job. So I'm excited where we sit. I grew
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: up in Freehill, New Jersey, which is in Central Jersey,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: about forty minutes from MetLife. Giants Country all the way.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I live in Brooklyn, New York, and right now it's
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Giants Country all the way. I just work on a
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: television show and people just want to talk Giants with
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: me everywhere I walk the last few months, what has
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: been your best or funniest interaction with a Giants fan,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: whether it be at Dunkin Donuts or whether it be
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: at the DMV, whoever. It's like, these are characters and
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I know you've encountered them in your everyday life. Yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: probably at Lows this spring. My wife was still in
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and she came over. It might have been right
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: after the draft. And again I've just been bunkered in.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I was at a temporary living. I'm going back and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: forth from temporary living to the office, and that's I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: really didn't get out much. So We're at Lows and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you know, we're looking for some stuff, and oh my gosh, dang,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: this guy's like following me around like every aisle, Like
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I look and this guy's kind of standing there staring
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: at me. I'm like, what the world's going on? Not
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: even again, I haven't been out, so I'm not like
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: somebody wreck cognizes me or I'm just not used to it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: So finally he kind of comes up to me, and
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I'm getting kind of creep down. He's like, are you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Joe Shane, general manager the Giants. I'm like, yeah, So
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it was just a can I get a picture with you?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: And it was at Lows and again it was it
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: was in the spring, and I just it's it's hard
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: to I mean, you go from assistant jam or you
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: know whatever, just nobody knows who. Yeah, the New York
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Posts one day, see yourself on the back page of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the paper. Yeah, I haven't got rid of I haven't
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: got used to that yet, or even pregame just walking
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: out to the game or somebody's yelling her name or
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: something like. I just it still catches me off guard.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just the time of Lows with my wife.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, the guy asked for a picture of
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: me or something. It was just kind of like, all right,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it, but it was just, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: getting used to that. It's like they're they're passionate. Like
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the crowd has been unbelievable. I don't know if you're
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: here for that Monday night game or not, but um,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the Ravens game Chicago, Like the atmosphere has been unbelievable
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: at the stadium, it's been awesome. One of the coolest
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: videos or one of the coolest stories. I think the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: article is done, and I hate that I don't have
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the writer. Maybe it was Ryan Dunlevy In the post.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It was about uh, your pops's reaction when he heard
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the news and all that could cook tell the story
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: of who your father is and where he found out
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the news and what he's all about. Yeah, so my
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: dad still lives in El card Indiana, where where I
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: grew up, and uh, he's worked for the same company
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Roadway for like, you know, he's thirty nine years he's
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: number one on the seniority pool and uh he's about
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to retire. I think in February. He says he's one
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: of those guysho complains about his job, but I think
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: he actually loves going every day. So yeah, I got
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the call and I walked up to my my offer. Well,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: first I had to we're getting ready practice against Kansas City,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: so I was trying not to be a distraction. Some
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: people saw I had a call from East East Rutherford,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: so I knew something was up. I gave him the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: thumbs up and I got out of there. I just
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be a distraction with going to Kansas
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: City in the playoffs. So you know, I went outside
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and I called him, and yeah he was. He was
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: super proud, you know, got teary eyed, and uh, it
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was really cool experience because you know, again, you know,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: he worked hard. He taught me work ethic. You know,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: every a lot of the you know DNA and who
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I am today is is because of him and his
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: work ethic, and um, what he instilled in me at
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a young age. So really cool experience. He's excited, he's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: super proud. Uh. You know, he's got like a couple
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: of different places of breakfast spots and and uh you know,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: dinner places where he goes and eats on a weekly basis.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And now they've got giants stuff up there? Is that right?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: What's the town called. It's El Card Indiana's and it's
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: giants Country. Now yeah, yeah, it's giants Country. It's known
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: as the RV Capital World. So all the RVs you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: see on the on the road with a lot of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: them are made of No Card. It's about I'm about
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: ten miles east of Notre Dame, so you know the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: South Bend, so very cool. Um, do we give our
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: secret breakfast spot? Do we give him a shout out? Yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: give him a shout out. Maybe we get a free
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: uh fream? All right, Combine, let's go back to February. Joe,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: it just gotten the job, Brandon Bean. Uh. Brandon and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I have a long tradition of getting at breakfast. Back
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: when Brandon was in Carolina, we'd go to this place
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: called pata Chew at the Combine and it was like
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: top secret, no one else would go. Brandon I would
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: get some cinnamon toast and some delicious eggs. So Joe
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: joined us. But I gotta say, it's not such a
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: secret anymore. It felt like this was like a sort
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: of like spring break in the NFL. I didn't like
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: the fact that our precious patache in Indiana is now
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the spot in the combine? Yeah, you're talking twenty five
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: thirty minute. Wait now, it's it's unfortunate. Now, maybe it's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: this little shout out here will get us to the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: front of the line next year. Yeah. And I asked Joe,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I said, all right, fifth overall, pick you tell me
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: who are we taking? And he did not say the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: word Cavon Tao. So I just I know who to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: trust when it comes to my mock drafts. Moving forward,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: lastly before we go, Dude, if there's a young man
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: or woman right now in their twenties in college, just
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: out of college, and they play fantasy football, they love
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the NFL and they're like, they meet you in an elevator,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I want to be an NFL general manager. How do
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I get there? What are your values, what are your tenants?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: And what is that message to that young man or woman? Yeah?
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I think again. What I tell a lot of people
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is go work with the colleges. Now you got these
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: NILD it's basically like free agency. Not to mention they
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: still got a recruit, so you can get valuable experience
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: evaluating high school players for these colleges. If you want
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to come in and do the evaluation part for the NFL,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: but you know, work hard, be on time, be dependable,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: pay attention to detail, and to me, the best type
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of employees are when you can give them something and
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: you know it's going to get done the way you
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: expect it to get done and you don't have to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: double check it or find airs or anything like that.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: So the ability for somebody to depend on you is
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the most important because again my leadership style, I'm not
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: a micro manager. I'm gonna let you do your job
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: as long as I know it's getting done the way
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be done in the expectations of being met.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Because if I have to micromanage, I'm going to find
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: somebody else to do it. So I don't have to micromanage.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just work hard. Again, I tell people
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: around here, like if it's business side or whatever, I
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: may not know what you do on a daily basis,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: but I know every day at seven am, I see you,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: or you're the first one in, or you're here laid
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: or you know, whatever may be in. So when my
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: scouts are going to schools, like you know, you never
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: know what day. Another general manager is going to be
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: there and they don't know who you are. But you
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: came prepared. You were the first one there, and you
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: asked really good questions when you were in with pe
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: liaisons or whatever. It may be. So um for people
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that want to be a GM again, I think going
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to college route first is the best way. The way
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: it's structured now. I mean they have gms of colleges now,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and then there's there's several gms that There's one at Alburn,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: there's one in North Carolina, there was one at Georgia Tech.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: So um. You know that route's a good, you know,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: foundational piece in terms of getting some evaluation experience, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: then once you get your foot in the door, take
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: advantage of it. It's up to you once you get
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: that opportunity. Hey, I'm ready to run through a law
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: for you. It wasn't a pet dog. Hey. Look I'm
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: at I'm at Good Morning Football every morning at five am.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm here and I'm like looking through like depth charts,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: so I could talk about Cincinnati's you know, new corners
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: are gonna because Adobe A Woozier's hurt. I want to
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: be at GM. I want to work for you, Joe,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: This is it, M dude. I appreciate you so much.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I understand you're a busy guy, and it's not often that,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: you know, during the bye week someone would hop on
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: and do an interview. But you're such a great dude,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: and and you're truly a visionary in this field, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming on the podcast. You do
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: a great job. Man. Thanks for having me anytime. Peter
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: all right. Joe Shane, general manager of the New York Giants.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: He's got New York in a frenzy right now, feeling
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: good about their team, a team they could be proud of.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: More to come here on this season. Thanks again to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Joe Shane. Joe Shane, awesome guest. Awesome guy. I hope
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the purpose of this podcast is that you get to
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: know these decision makers and some of the guys behind
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: some of the big decisions in the NFL a little
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: bit better. And Joe really is one of the true
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: great dudes of the NFL. And one of the true
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: great dudes of the NFL network is my friend Tony
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Holzman Escarano. Tony, what's up, a good man? Hey, how
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Sharks? Glad to be back here again.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: No doubt. Tony is with the NFL network's research department
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and often is the one kind of loaded me up
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: with good nuggets, good info, good stats, good research, the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: combine and the draft coverage, for sure, but also I
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: use this stuff during Good Morning Football all the time,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and Tony, we're doing the highlights from the Niners Rams
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: game and I throw a comment out there on the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: broadcast and I'm like, Christian McCaffrey has a rushing touchdown,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a passing touchdown, and a receiving touchdown in the same game,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and I go, I can't imagine there's a lot of
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: running backs who have done that. And you hit me up,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring you on to make us
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: smarter because you always do Historically, how rare is it
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: for a running back to do the triple crown receiving, rushing,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: passing touchdown and then take us through what you think
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey brings to the table here in San Francisco. Well,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: since the nineteen seventy NFL merger, there's only been three
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: running backs, including McCaffrey, to do that. One is Walter
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Payton and the other is the Danny and Tomlinson. So
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of great company McCaffrey's in right now, multiple
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: gold jackets, the thing that players are all shooting for sure.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: The wildest thing with this is that he's the first
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: player with thirty yards and a touchdown passing, rushing and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: receiving in the same game. So he actually he also
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: added the yard. I like that, So it wasn't just
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: like a one yard pass, it was the thirty yard.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: The pass was actually the third longest by a forty
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: nine Ers player over the last three seasons five yards
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the like touchdown, third longest pass touchdown by air yards.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Another thing that's crazy about what McCaffrey did is he
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: also did this in college, also against an LA based team,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: against USC in the twenty fifteen Pack twelve champions Nice.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: So it's not new for McCaffrey to do the one
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: one in one the triple single, I guess we can
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: call it single. I like that. That's good. But as
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: far as CMC in Shanahan's offense, we all know Shanahan
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: loves to get the ball to his guys in space
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: and let him meat. And he literally added the ultimate
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Swiss army knife into his toolbox McCaffrey's over the last
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: five seasons. McCaffrey's second in yards after catch by running
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: backs over that same time span, George Kittle's first among
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: tight ends, nice and Deebo Samuel is first among all
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: players in yards after catch pert positionless players. He has
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: a bunch of chess pieces he can move around and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: do whatever he wants to with, and over the last
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: two games that he's played with the let's call it
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: one and a half yea, yeah, he's played in the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: slaughter out wide on twenty percent of his snaps and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: been used in motion or shift on a quarter of
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: his snaps. So Shanahan's moving him around making sure he
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: gets the most out of McCaffrey. I don't know who
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: let Kyle Shanahan get Christian McCaffrey. Like there should have
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: been like at one coming together and being like, no,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: don't let this happen. You know how fantasy footballers that
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: do not drop list should be a do not let
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan have this player list that McCaffrey would be
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: right on the top of it. You know it's so
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: true because, like I reported it, the next day, McVeagh
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and the Rams were in on this and they didn't
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: have all the draft picks that the Niners did, and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it was like the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: highest bidder type deal. But for those at Alma don't know,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan baby sat Christian McCaffrey baby sat him.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: The story goes that, like, you know, Mike Shanahan was
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the head coach in Denver, Ed McCaffrey's the star wide receiver,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan was a little toddler and like Edward babysit.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Then you go, you know, before that, even Ed McCaffrey
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: was on the ninety four nine Ers team that Mike
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Shanahan was a coach on and Kyle was obviously okay.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And then Kyle Shanahan goes to Texas before he transfers
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to Duke and at Tech or maybe the other way around.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe he was at Duke and Chres techas I forget
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: my chronological orders all screwed up. That's why they got
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: a research department. But he wore eighty seven at Texas
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and that was because Kyle Shanahan worshiped ed McCaffrey so
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: much that he wore eighty seven. Like that's crazy. And
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: now they're together, and it's like, all right, of course
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: they're together. A lot of family ties going on there,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: for sure. A Shahan got the only player in NFL
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: history to average fifty yards rushing and receiving in their career,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: so he's one of one. He got one one player
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: in that deal, and he has through twenty twenty five.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: So let's go. You're one of one, bro. Thank you
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: for making us smarter. Christian McCaffrey and Tony Holtzman Escaranna,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: we'll get you next week. Appreciate you, Shreks. Thank you
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: so much for having me. And now it's becoming maybe
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: my favorite part of the podcasts, and this is the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: fourth time we're doing. At the end of every podcast,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I bring on one of my friends, whether it be
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: a childhood friend, a college friend, someone I've worked with
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: in the past, who has a take. The take could
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: be anything. Last week, my buddy Noah tour apart Paul
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Rudd's take that the guy who caught the Aaron judge
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: sixty first ball did the right thing by giving it
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: back to Aaron Judge. Noah said, that's ridiculous. The right
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: thing is to take a million dollars and feature family.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: The first week of the podcast, we had my buddy
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Aaron on my college roommate, and Aaron came on and
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: made the claim that the House of Dragons is better
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: than the original Game of Thrones. It got a lot
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of pushback from fans of both shows. From fans of
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, I wouldn't be lying if I had
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: some people who work at the actual home box office
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: chime in with thoughts after that take, and they were
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: pro that take. They'd liked those ratings. They thought that
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: was a good promotion for the show. I'm bringing Aaron
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: on again because we're recording this the day after Halloween,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: and I just hear Ausen and his voice and over
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: his text, I could say that he has a take
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: on the Halloween holiday. Aaron. Welcome back to the season
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: with Peter Schreger. Thank you, Peter. It is great to
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: be back and I'm loving the podcast, loving the podcast.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Rud was great, Noah, great take. He did a great job.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Good job, Noah, great take. What's your take for week A,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: number nine of the NFL season where you at, dude, Well,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: you know it's October, at the end of October, and
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you mentioned exhaustion. What happened to Halloween?
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: What happened to the day. I want to stress the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: day of Halloween because the day of Halloween and my
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: book has now turned into the month of Halloween. It
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: feels to me that we are just going on an
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: endless spree of Halloween celebration. I mean it literally is
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: turned into Super Bowl weekend for children. And you and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I've been to many a Super Bowl, so we know
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: what it's like to jam in as much as we
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: can do. I'm thoroughly exhausted, Peter. When I was a kid,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: we just slapped together our own costumes. Uh you know.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I remember my my I was a Ghostbuster and my
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: mom drew on a T shirt, handing me a paper
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: roll towel with tinfoil and said, here you go, here's
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: your Ghostbuster blaster. Go egon. I'm telling you, Peter, the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: amount of money that I just spent on Halloween, hundreds
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: of dollars went into I'm this is not a joke.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Eight costumes, eight different I have three children, Peter. You
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: know this, three children, eight costumes between three children. One
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: of those kids is one years old. We put him
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: in three different costumes. What is going on, Peter. I mean,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: it's just an endless amount of Halloween. And I'll tell
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: you what it's going what's going on. It's all for
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the social, It's all for Instagram. You know, you might
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: as well call my wife, Patrick Mahomes, she's she's she's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: putting so much on social. Or that that guy from
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Seattle that you know is now playing in Denver, Russell Wilson.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: You know, you might as well. She's all for the
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: social just pictures goal or it's you know, you know, Peter,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: when we used to be doing the wedding season, right,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: we used to spend all this money and show ourselves
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: on this Instagram showing us partying and all this stuff.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like ten years later now this is what
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: we're doing. Went from weddings to celebrating Halloween. That's all
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: we're doing is showing off on Instagram about how much
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Halloween partying we're doing with the children and the parties
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: and the costumes and everything. I'm why multiple costumes? Why
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: not just the same costume? Like, who would someone judge
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: if you wore the same if you were a Stranger
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Things character? Twice of course, Peter, because the social is
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: all about the views and the clicks, and you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: the more times that you can come oh wow, now
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: now he's a Stranger Things. Oh now he's Star Wars.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Oh look at this. Now there. You know, it just
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: goes on and on, and it's all for the social media. Now,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you're not a grinch, but I will say this, Um,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: there was a feeling of frustration when we were on
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the text chain with all our college guys over the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: adult Halloween responsibilities. Now, I'm not a suburban dad, so
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I live a different life. I'm gone over the weekends.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I think this is very specific to the suburban adults
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: now because I see it all over the social media.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Husband and wife dressed together, something catchy, and then it's
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Friday night, then it's Saturday night, then it's Sunday night,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: then it's Monday night. What's happened? Well, I mean, Peter,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I kind of just went on a riff
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: about the children, but I had to tell you it's
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the same thing for the parents. My wife and I
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: we had four different costumes. Uh you know, we had
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the we had we had the peanut, butter and jelly.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: You had the cult leader and and and the follower.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: You had one that was a fun one. Um, you
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: know you got to go on and on and and
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: we have different parties. But now I'm hearing about all
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: these like you know, hosting people at your house to
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: do clue like you know, Hollywood mystery, Halloween mystery things.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, people are going all out, taking it to
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: all different types of crazy measures. I mean it is
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: thoroughly exhausting. We've turned Halloween into what was one single
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: day when when you were you and I were kids,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: into this month long extravaganza that doesn't stop until thank god, yesterday,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: it's over. We're done. You know what, when I was
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: a kid, you'd go trick or treating for the night
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and if it rained, sorry, if it was cold, sorry,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Like you don't get it, do over, you don't get it. Also,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: maybe there was that kid in your class the night
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: before who would take like a cartet eggs out and
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: like egg the teacher's house and that was it. Now
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  Speaker 1: there's this obligation, but I will say this to have
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  Speaker 1: like a silver lining to this whole thing. It is over,
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  Speaker 1: and now you can turn to decorating your house with
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  Speaker 1: Christmas attire, getting the ornaments up that it's a whole other,
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  Speaker 1: whole other experience here, because that's an Instagram frenzy as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Halloween stops and here comes Holidays, and so
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  Speaker 1: Instagram Galora, I'll see you. I'll see you there, Peter,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be liking your pictures, liking you and Mel and
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  Speaker 1: Erica can't wait to see that. Yep, here comes, here
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  Speaker 1: comes holidays. All right, So a thousand dollars in the
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  Speaker 1: whole eighteen costumes, lots of candy, but you know your
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  Speaker 1: wife probably got thirty eight likes on that photo, so
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  Speaker 1: it was all worth it, Pal, all worth it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: anything for the kids and my wife. That's it. That's it, Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for that ray of sunshine on this amazing,
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  Speaker 1: amazing morning. Brother, Always a pleasure. Great take you, Peter.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. That's what we bring. We bring you the
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  Speaker 1: GM of the New York Giants. We bring you insight
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  Speaker 1: on Christian McCaffrey, and we bring you hot scolding anti
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  Speaker 1: Halloween takes. And that's where we're at. Guys. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to Munich on Friday. I'll be recording a podcast live
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  Speaker 1: from Munich next week. Until then, interesting slate of games
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  Speaker 1: this week, like not a great one. But you know
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  Speaker 1: how the NFL goes, this will end up being the
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  Speaker 1: best week of all. That's just what it is. For
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  Speaker 1: Aaron wan Kaufman, for Jason English, for the iHeart guys,
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  Speaker 1: for the NFL guys, for the music Maestro Jack Rudd.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Peter Schreger. Thank you everybody, See you next week.
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