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We're back! Chinese car invasion, Gordie's new Genesis and Thailand antics · The Driver's Show

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Where where back? Where have you been? Bitch? Here?
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: There?
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: And every week a lot of people have been asking
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: where the hell have we been? What has happened while
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: there's been a rift in our relationship. It's been a
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: very We were doing a stage show. It was your birthday.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: We wanted to know what you wanted for your birthday
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: and he said, don't miss trump this time, and we
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: were abrupted. We stopped the band. But we've had a chat,
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: We've hugged it out.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: You then started taking ice and then beating your own.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: That was Andrew.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: We do look similar these days, don't you know what
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: amazes me about that? Dude's life is down the toilet
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: like he is low, low, low, But damn he looks good.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: I saw the news story today he was found again
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: with an ice pipe or something, allegedly, and I looked
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: at him. I'm like, for someone who was found with
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: an ice pipe after driving well suspended allegedly, do.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: You actually look fairly with it. It's like he could
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: be on the front cover of a bloody David Jones
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: cat along, but he's still with an ice pipe. Of course,
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: you know, Mane very much mirrors my life. Have you been?
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: Have you been Yeah good. Sorry about the long time
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: between drinks. It's just been a bit of a scheduling nightmare.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: I've been on holiday. You went on holiday and we
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: just couldn't make it work. And then you move studios
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: with studios.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: We've got a brand new driver show studio and this
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: sh mick. It actually sounds good so far. Everything's working
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: a diffuse light.
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: It's quite something.
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  Speaker 1: That's to keep the mozzies away. We did have an
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: episode in the Can, but technical issues. And also I
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: got awfully drunk and spat some stuff about my super
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: outback that we should probably never publish. So yeah, I've
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: been away. Oh my god. Right, I went to Thailand. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So the craziest cars that you see in Thailand, right,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: this is the thing I love about that country, like,
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: and it's the same with like countries, like amongst amongst
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: the ping pong bull shows that I frequented, a lot
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: of people go to Thailand to like learn how to
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  Speaker 1: kickbox and stuff. I learned to do ping pong. No, no,
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: mister Gordy, no, you have to give it thrust anyway.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: So what I loved is I saw a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of cars over there that I've never seen anywhere else
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Yep, I saw. I mean, we know
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  Speaker 1: about the Ford f one fifty. I saw a Mustang Mustang.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: There you go, that's you. I like that, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: something coming out I suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw a I saw a Masda too, which
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  Speaker 1: I think it's looked factory. They'd don't done it up
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  Speaker 1: to look like an.
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  Speaker 2: Ev Oh but that was deranged.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that was fine. But did you notice as well?
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  Speaker 2: And I've noticed this before when I've been to Thailand
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  Speaker 2: and Bali as well. A lot of the cars they
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: drive so close together, but there is just no damage
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  Speaker 2: on them. No, And I don't understand how that's possible.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: They must just have the skills to just not be
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: making contact with each other. It's really quite bizarre.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: They're very bizarre. One other thing I saw was I
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: don't think we have this here. Do we have a
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: Toyota Hilux Champ.
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: No, we don't. But that's basically like when we've written
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: about that before. It's like blown up the website. So
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: it's like the Jymney where I think if they sold it,
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: it would have like this immense following.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: I think I would do. It was actually quite cool.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: I said to the dude who I saw driving. It
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: was dropping stuff off, like markets and stuff, and this
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: thing looked ball. He knew it like it was all black,
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: it was low to the ground, everything was like all
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: black everything. But it was like I'm in a highlax champ.
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  Speaker 1: It was a different one. I reckon they should bring
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  Speaker 1: that out. You saw it in the flash because you
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  Speaker 1: look at it. I'll put a photo on our socials.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's one of those cars that it
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: looked better in person than it does in photos. It
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  Speaker 1: looks cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Look, they released a new version of it, and I
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: got to say, it kind of just looks like it
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  Speaker 2: gets the job done. It's interesting just in terms of size.
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: It actually like it's smaller than what we know as
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: you know, a regular duel cabut like a Highlights or
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: a Ranger. But I don't know. I just think it's
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: I just think it's a cool looking thing. In terms
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: of the engines, they've got a two leader of two
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: point seven petrol and a two point four lead diesel,
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  Speaker 2: so it's almost the same parent all capput as the
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: highlights that we get here. So it's a pretty sort
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: of nifty little thing.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: One thing I loved about our break was watching this
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  Speaker 1: great little video that you published on the Cherry, the
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: Cherry Tiggo Pro Max.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: It's actually the Tigo eight Pro Max Ultimate.
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  Speaker 1: And I just the comments were amazing, Like the comments
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  Speaker 1: in that was basically it was you showing up quickly
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  Speaker 1: explained the feature. Just explain the feature first off before
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  Speaker 1: we get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this thing is very cheap. It's like under
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  Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars drive away and it basically has a
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: fragrance dispenser, So basically you can load whatever fragrance you
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: want in there and it will dispense all over you
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  Speaker 2: while you're driving.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor's Cooper Born actually comes with it in built.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: Last night's rain d and Beef Curry part you just
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: drive along? How's about that one? Tigo? Yeah? No, the
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: comments were amazing, Like you read those comments and they
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: sat like I could hear them as callers on like
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: Neil Mitchell's like talkback program, just like what's bloody going on?
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  Speaker 1: Which pool You've lost me? Pooh? I assure him talk
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  Speaker 1: about them.
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  Speaker 3: The cheery Tigo Ultra Absorbant temper and whenever the fact
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  Speaker 3: showing he was talking about the schmellis and you should
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: porch the Chinese. He's gone down hill there the way
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: he did the thumbs up at the end of that video,
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: he should porch him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite was can we test those fragrances for carcinogens?
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  Speaker 2: Not what I'm suggesting the Chinese would cut corners or
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: falsify numbers to make something a beer better than it
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  Speaker 2: really is. It's just the anti China sentiment and the
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  Speaker 2: thing that I fight funny, Like, firstly, no one is
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  Speaker 2: forcing you to buy this car, so just because it exists,
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: like people are just defended by it. And if you
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: have a look at the comparable like Toyota product that
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: has seven seats, it is double the price almost. So
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: what you want someone who can't afford to actually like
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: feed the family just got you gotta buy Toyota even
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  Speaker 2: though it's massively overpriced.
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  Speaker 1: It's such an old way of thinking. It's such an
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: old way of thinking, like the struggling families that are, yeah,
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: just trying to put fucking food in their kid's mouth,
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  Speaker 1: and you guys are rubbishing like a cheap car that's
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: finally on the road that can put seven people in
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: there late.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: And the other thing that's kind of just crazy about
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: this situation as well. We saw when Perjo took like
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: twenty something thousand dollars out of the price of the
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: E two Double oh eight that if you have a
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  Speaker 2: car that you're selling that has twenty thousand dollars of
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: margin in it, because obviously they're still making money on it,
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  Speaker 2: it just shows you how much Toyota is ripping customers
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: off at the moment. Maybe they're not ripping them off,
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: but they are just making so much out of these cars.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of profit. Yeah, and it's been more happy
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: to pay that go for it. That is such a
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: jump too, isn't it a twenty grand?
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you can take twenty grand, even Tesla
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  Speaker 2: did it with Model Y it was seventy two at
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: its peak, it's now fifty five and they're still making money.
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  Speaker 2: So if you can take almost twenty grand out of
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  Speaker 2: a Tesla as well that's also made in China, well,
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  Speaker 2: it just shows you how much money everyone else is
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  Speaker 2: making off you.
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  Speaker 1: So they announce that price dribe. I mean, you jump
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: in a Pergo and it's like it's a nice car.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: I think they look great, they feel great, they have
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: beautiful interior. They're very underpowered in my opinion.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: So if you can see the speeder, which I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the problem is they've always been very expensive
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  Speaker 1: for what they are. I think they're putting out a
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: great product, but I'm like, Jesus paint, you want how
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  Speaker 1: much and you've got like a one point five in
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: this what are you doing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And that's where the EV game has really leveled the
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  Speaker 2: field because previously you used to have to be a
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: manufacturer of note to have a car that accelerates fast
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: and does all that sort of stuff, Whereas now anyone
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: can just go get and off the shelf electric motors
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: and batteries and you've got a car that can accelerate
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: fast like you've got a lot of other elements to it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sort of exaggerating a bit there, but like,
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  Speaker 2: it's not it's not like that situation where a one
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  Speaker 2: and a half letter is just just you can look
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  Speaker 2: at it and go, well, that's not a two leader
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: or a three leader or whatever. So I think the
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: game is going to be changing. So we actually did
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: a presentation at the double Ada, which is the Australian
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Automotive Dealers Association.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: Gee, that sounds fun, the Automotive Dealers Association.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of women in the room just
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: kidding a lot of men.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, did you tell those dealers that they're a
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: dying breed?
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, Andrew still buys a fever bit of stuff from them.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: What's Andrew still buys a febit of stuff from him?
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: Who's Andrew?
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: Okeith?
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: I got on that one cook?
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I got a barbecue out.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: He's up for a nice barbie.
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  Speaker 2: So we had a slide up there that showed all
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: the Chinese brands that are coming. There were ten of
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: them that are going to be here in the next
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: six to twelve months.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: What are we looking at. We're looking at a few
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: of the new entries.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Let me read some of them out to you because
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: some of these, even me, as a car person in
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: the industry in the biz, hasn't actually heard of some
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: of these. So the one that's just around the corner
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: is Zeka. So they're launching two, which is a van
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: and a small car.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Are they Are they a derivative of MG.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: No, they're a derivative of go to my list here Ghily,
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: which is Volvo's parent company. So you've got Jack Motors
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Jac they're about to launch a ute. You've got Smart,
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: which is now half owned by the Chinese. Are about
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Smart have been around for a while, yeah, but now
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: owned by partly owned by China. Jku, which is a
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: luxury mediumsuv turned j Cuo's mate turn jus.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, hold the mustard, hold the Master Crispy Noodles. Yeah,
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: I'll have the prawn Cracker. Complimental Management.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: That'll be grad x Peng, which there is a cream
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: for I think, oh yeah, she's a good woman. Leap Motor,
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: which has two cars coming sky well, which sounds like
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: a a robot that's going to take over the world.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: Gak Motor, are you serious? Gack gack with a j
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: tour and you like this one deep Pal.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: What's it called deep Pal? Deepal.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: So these are all just the ones that are like
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: six to twelve months away or so.
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: So if people think that just slagging off Chinese brands,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: just don't buy them, it's like, well, sorry, they're cheap
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: and they are going to force out the manufacturers to
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: finally get with it on pricing. And stop just jacking
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: prices up constantly and unnecessarily.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Have they become they would they would now be the
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: biggest automotive producers in the world, Ryan.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Good question. They are the biggest exporters and if you
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: have a look just in Australia alone, the sales. What
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: surprised me is over the past ten years or so,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: the rate of sales of Chinese vehicles has just gone
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: absolutely through the roof. And compare that to the Koreans,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: and the Koreans had I guess they had like a
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: bit of a slow rise but they finally got there
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: in the end. But the Chinese brands have just gone
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: through the roof in terms of how quickly they're they're
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: sort of coming to the market with their cars. And
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: we've seen a tenfold increase in the amount of cars
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: that they're selling over the past few years, so you know,
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: and they're just going to keep coming.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: I think also like there's some that are entering the
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: market and they're putting an absolutely killer product. Some have
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: worked to do definitely, but some are And I'm not
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: just fanboying this, but like I was so impressed with
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: the BYD the Seal performance was just incredible, and obviously
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: the Seals Sorry, the Sea Line six is on its way,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: which I still love that name. It sounds like a
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: it sounds like a boody sheep rided SeaWorld or something. No, Caleb,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: you can't get your father's still on the Sea Lion six.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Sit down and have your fucking cheeseburger. And no, no, don't,
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: don't have the thick shake. No, not before you jump
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: on the Sea Lion six. You'll have a spiel. You
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: get home and have a creamy shit. No anyway, So
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: poor Caleb, poor Kaleb, bloody, Oh, poor Kale, to get
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: on the dolphin.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: He's lacked.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Jesus, don't get him on the dolphin. His mom took
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: her right and Jesus Christ that porpoise never returned. Anyway.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: My point being that I genuinely believe what they're putting
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: to market is stuff that automatically deserves to be sitting
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: next to established brands, brands like Mazda and running the mill,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Toyotas and things like that. I think they're putting an
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: excellent product out there. So all these people rubbish in
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Chinese cut like it. That's fine, carry on, so many
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: so much to choice from why why? Why get passionately
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: and agree about it?
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: And ironically they're sitting there on their iPhones, which was
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: assembled by some small child, probably in China. So just just.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Chill out, just chill anyway, that's all right? Hey, what
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: are you driving? This week's what's kind of?
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: What is the HAPs? What are we driving?
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: What have you got? Oh?
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: I got a big news. I canceled my Tesla Model
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: WI order. I thought to myself, was.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: This the one with the this is the facelift of
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: one too? Right?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: No, so facelifted one is still coming. And my car
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: had come to the end of its novated lease. And
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: I think previously we've spoken about how the values have
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: completely tanked, and basically my novaated lease was up in July,
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: and it was sort of around April April May that
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, I got to get rid of this
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: thing because a brand new one is now fifty five
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: and my residual was something like forty forty four to
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: forty five.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: That's not bad.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not great either, because everyone on the second
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: hand market had them listed for above fifty five. For
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: what is wrong with these idiots when you can just
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: go buy a brand new one. Why would anyone want
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: a secondhand one. So once they started realizing that, they
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: started tanking the prices, and I basically just got rid
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: of mine through our solo car service on our site.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Someone took it away for how much I owed on it.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: But basically now you cannot get rid of them, so
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: there's a fire sale happening of model. Wise, a lot
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: of people bought the white one because they just wanted
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: the cheapest thing they could and there was just so
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: many listed. So I thought to myself, look at fifty
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: five getting a new novadd lease now is actually a
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: pretty good deal, because for fifty five grand, that car
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: is such good value for money. But I started sort
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: of having a bit more of a look at it
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: and novaded leasing companies, most of them are around the
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: fifteen percent comparison rate mark for a loan, which is
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: obscenely high even compared to an extortionate personal car loan.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Fifteen percent is outrageous.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: What they do is they bury all of their profits
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: in that and also management fees, so that you still
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: get a marginal tax benefit, but they gobble up pretty
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: much all of the actual benefit through these inflated interest rates.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: So I thought to myself, look, I want to get
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: another model, why but I also want to try another EV.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've owned Teslas now for five years
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: and I don't really want to just get stuck just
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: driving Teslas all the time.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: So you are going to go for another EV?
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So can you see what your reaction is here?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So the Pugio e to just kidding, I wouldn't do that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a Ford Mustang Marquee. Now I will caveat
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: this by saying I'm not buying this car. I'm getting
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the car from Ford for six months, so it's like
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: it's a long term like it is, so it obviously
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: means I won't be paying for it, But to me,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I will really want to see what it's actually like
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: to have another brand of EV. So I picked the
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: car up last week and already it's pissing me off.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Like basic stuff like the app is like light years
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: behind Tesla. That's probably one of the things I love
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: the most about Tesla. The app is just so good
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to use, So that is beginning to annoy me. So
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes from here, and I'll give
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: regular updates. But I just really want to get a
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: better understanding of what it is like to own an
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: ev that is not a tesla, just to see what
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that's like.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: So I've got a bit of news to go on.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: So I come on, come on down, you little daily
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: driving my little side dish. Go on.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, you got rid of the kd Lang, No, the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: kd lang. The CUBR back is still there there if
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you want a bloody buy it. Actually, can I say
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: before I reveal what I'm driving? When I bought that
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: car less than a year ago, right the dealer, I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: think it was say fifty six, Right fifty six. It
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: was the XT Sport, so sort of mid range. He said,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: keep it for like two years. You'll be able to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: get rid of this for like fifty one fifty two. Wow. Interesting, Okay,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So I've gone to kind of have a look and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: sort of price it on car sales. I'm like, oh
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that have I got the right model?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, did he lie to you?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It's funny because I rang him up and I said
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: how much for trading? Like do you want to? Let's
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: do it?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Just you know when we chatted and you said you'd
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you reckon?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, look, this is like it's actually it's
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: like less than twelve months now, and I mean it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: done less than ten thousand kilometers like single digits, pretty good,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you know, So thirty nine oh thirty nine oops? Oops,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all right okay? And I actually said to him, I said, oh, mate,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you told me keep this for two years you'll get
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: fifty two. What a fizzit that turned out to be?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And he's like, wow, you could probably get about forty
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: eight on the private market. It's like, you're still going
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to offer me like thirty nine. So hold, let me
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: here's the thing less than twelve months ago. That was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a fifty six thousand dollars car.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: In fact, I'm going to check upthing. So what's your rego?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: You're going to edit this bit out? Let's have a look. Yep,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: super out back all will drive sport XT that's it. Okay.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So how many k's are?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Nine thousand and fifty?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Sorry?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeahs five hundred SA round out?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, next, so okay, so a couple more questions here.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Car conditions. So service history, well, I mean it's complete, Yeah,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's complete.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: It's never even been taken into the ten thousand kilometers.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Service exterior condition poor fair or great. That's say, great
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: interior condition, poor fear or great, great mechanical condition poor
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: fear or great. Aside from the horrendous fuel economy.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Great components, all functioning, yep.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, it doesn't pull as many chicks as I think
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it's pulling the wrong card.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, So according to our estimate, oh at depending on
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the condition at the low end thirty two thousand, whoa,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and at the high end thirty seven seven to fourth.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Fuck off. I'm not now selling it to you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Can I can I explain something to you. So the
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: reason it's less than what you would get on the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: private market is because old mate needs to buy it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So let's pretend he pays thirty seven for it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: He'll paid thirty nine. He's already off in thirty nine. Y.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Let's pretend he pays thirty nine. He then needs to
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: get it cleaned checked, which is get a roadworthy done. Yeah,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and then he has to make some money off it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: So you want to be making ten, maybe twenty percent
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: off it. So by the time you add your twenty percent,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that is what he's going to be selling it to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a punter four, which is about fifty grand so the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: whole reason, Yeah, I don't.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Reckon he'll get fifty grand. I reckon he'd probably get
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: about Yeah, I reckon. If I sold it, I'd probably
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: at this point be happy with forty seven.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: But this is the thing, right, you have to list it,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you have to pay car sales the extortion and amount
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that they want for it. They need to deal with
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: idiots who come and see it, test drive it and
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: then don't buy it, or idiots that just message you
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: is it still available?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a marketplace. Yeah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: So the whole reason services like this exist so you
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: can get rid of it. And the reason I got
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: rid of mine. For what I did was because I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: could see what was coming, which was this thing crashing.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people just want to get rid
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of their cars, and for me, all I did I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: took some pictures of it, and then a truck turned
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: up and took it and that was it. So I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: think that ultimately, if you do genuinely want to get
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: rid of it, you either have to go through the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: hassle of selling it privately, which no one wants to do,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: or you just take a hit on it and just
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: get rid of it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like for an extra eight thousand bucks,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I'll take the hit on. I'll just I'll sell it myself.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It's a grand? A
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: grand is a grand? I mean you're looking at what
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty for.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: A car sales ad Oh, no, like four hundred? Is it?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: That's why it's such a waste of time listing on
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: car sales A while so expensive.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, look, there's probably a little bit of there's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: probably a little bit of that, yeah at this point.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: And like, plus, I'm in no real hurry to drive
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: it because I've got another car that I'm driving. You're
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: already so obviously with the fuel consumption issues, and obviously
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about the environ I have. I've made
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the sweet cho go on, flick the sweech, I've gone
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the ev path. Yes, you're already Genesis GV sixty. Oh
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that's cute.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: It's cute.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Have you seen it? Seen it? Yeah, I've got it,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You've seen it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful, it's got it's midnight blue and it's got
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: lovely sort of cream white interior. And do you know
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: what I love about it? At the most is the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: little patchwork on the interior, on the leather interior, it's diamonds,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: but they're g's. Some would say genesis. I'd say little
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: g forgot I. And you know what else I like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: about it was when you park it, little crystal ball,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: appeal crystal ball. So here's what I will say. Might
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: not you at first glance, I know what you're thinking.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Second second, and third glance, you're thinking, Wow, that's luxurious.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It's very opulent. It doesn't really suit my personality. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like a fast car, you know, so as a daily
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, I do like and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I've always said this, I reckon like Eve for a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: daily commuter is the best way to go. I just
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I fucking I've driven Porsches in traffic before and it
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was an absolute nightmare to own a Porsche as a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: daily for me in Sydney traffic. So this is just
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I can just fucking kick back, slide along. I feel
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: a bit luxurious. It feels nice, and you know the yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the little cameras asah, oh.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You you are trying to make this sound great.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: You think I'm polishing a turd. I'm not. It's not
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: don't think.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a turd. I just think that
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: platform that is the worst car on that platform.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: No, yes, the worst.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think it looks weird. And those cameras are just
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: diabolically bad. And that gearstick thing is the stupid yes.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Little circle, you don't like it? No, what I hang
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: on here?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I did that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: If you go, if you went, say the Ionic five,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: not the End, which is the greatest ev known to man,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but just the Ionic five. I mean that's the same
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: platform as a GV sixty, right yep, so you reckon
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the GV sixty drives worse than the Ionic.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Just in terms of the looks. I just think it looks.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It just looks very weird. And yeah, just the gearstick
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: thing I don't love. And the mirrors, and the mirrors,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: regardless of which car that is on. I never once
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: experienced digital mirrors that actually work. Please tell me didn't
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: buy it?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, okay, So look it's there's bad. It's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: there for as long as I like, or until they
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: hear you mouth off bad things about it. So thanks
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: for that. Someone looks like I'm back in the ah. Look,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I say, look, and that's genuinely. They totally understand it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: For me, it's like it's a warts and all. It's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like I will say that the exterior of the car
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is the thing I like the least. The inside I like.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Genuinely stand by it. I think it does feel great,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the little crystal bally circular thing. I think what yun
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Day products do really well is they sort of switch
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it up a bit in the Young Days where they
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: have the stalk. At the start, I didn't like the stork,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: but I ended up really quite enjoying this stalk. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: thought it was fine. It makes sense for backwards. I think, ah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: this is just as fine as a middle thing. But
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: so far the little circular dials is not amazing.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing I'm confused by is they had to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: make a point of difference, right, and they wanted to
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: make a luxurious kind of but while it's like, that
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: is storage space you could have had. And also that
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: platform supports the stalk, so just put it on a
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: stalk and figure out some other gimmick.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, it has a crystal ball when it parks.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'm driving around in a car like Liberachi. Frankly, it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: goes with my glitter pads. Yes, my bumbless glitter pads
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: looks so so far, so good.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: It's got some first, just get this in quickly. It's
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the first G spot you've hit in a while because
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: it's just on the seat and it's the G.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. It's hard to miss. Take the rest
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of the podcast.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I think that was enough joke for another six months.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: It's just that you're really tapped down big there. Hit
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the showers, big boy, quite literally. I'll follow you in.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I've got a genesis. You know what I will say though,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and generally mean it. It does. It does a few
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: things really well. By the way, the cameras as your
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: side mirrors, I didn't think I would get used to them,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm getting I'm getting used to them.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Reverse parking, that's where I think they're the worst.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: It's a big it feels big to reverse.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like those mirrors. They just don't work for reversing
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I okay. The one thing I'll say at the top
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of the list. It beeps or like, I'll be a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: foot away from a pole. And do you know I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: had a taxi driver once and he actually got out
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of his car. I didn't know what he was doing.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I was such an eadiot at the time. I didn't
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: really I wasn't really cultured like I am now. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I was looking out the window like, what's he doing something?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Why does he keep looking under the car? What?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: What?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, you're right, And
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: then I realized he was having a prey. He wasn't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: looking under the car.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I think that's just a stupid
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: thing to be doing. Well, you've got a customer, but when.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You got to go, you go go. Have you ever
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: jumped in a car right that you've been looking forward
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: to for so long? And you're like, oh, give me
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: one example real quick, you.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Go yours first. I didn't even think about this.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Well, the very first we haven't reviewed properly an Alpha
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: product Alpha Romeo.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: That's because no one buys them FEV and especially that one.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually think Alpha products a beautiful the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: do you call it? Do you say Julia or Gulia?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: The Julia Julia and the Stelvio look good, but that
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Tinari looks I feel great.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I think the really, I think it's got a good bump. Look,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the lights look good when you turn them on. They
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: have that kind of shape. I think it's quite a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: quite a nice looking suv and it certainly feels nice
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: on the inside. It does feel premium and you're like, oh,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: this is the leather feels really good and just just
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit shit, just like just I can't. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: was driving along thinking what is it about this that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I really don't like? And the suspension, just the whole
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: feel of the car just didn't seem right at all.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: The suspension was way off, like it just the whole
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: thing felt rigid, and I was I was so disappointed.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Another another car that I thought would blow my mind,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and it was just fine, are you ready for this?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get so much hate for saying this. I'm
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: just preparing for the onslaught of hate. Was the WRX
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Club Spec?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, there is. It's not what it used to be.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: No, And like the Club Spec, I think it looks
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. It's got the big wing up the back,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it's got some bits and pieces, it's got some faux
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: carbon fiber on in the inside. They could have tuned
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it a little better. They could have made it sound better.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound any different in my view to a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: normal WRX. They're putting a premium on it, and there's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: like they're fully going out of their way to say
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: how limited edition it is, and you can't buy it anywhere.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It's like I don't care though, Like they've got little
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: plates on there. Oh this is number five of one hundred.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I think there is only one hundred in Australia. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: was so I thought it would be so much better
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: than it was.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those cars that just has something brilliant.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It's just super for you. Yeah, for me, I was
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: just having a bit of a think about this. It's
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a bit of a backhanded compliment, but for me it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: was the GWM Tank five hundred.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Now reason three hundred the other day. Yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: The reason I say that it was more just the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: hybrid that was a bit shit. It had moments where
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: it really shone and excelled, but then the rest of
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the time it was just so confused of itself and
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: didn't really know what it was doing. And it's a
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: shame because they have a V six available overseas that
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: would do really well here because the rest of the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: specs really stack up nicely. The interior is amazing, like
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the doesnt it is so good so yeah, it's one
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: of those ones where I was just like, I just
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: wish it was just a little bit better than this, But.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. I think that was like lacking
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: refinement and a few bits definitely.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not a huge amount, but it was just that
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: little bit that it needed to fix. So but yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know that the car market's interesting at the moment.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: We've got this huge on slaughter of Chinese brands and
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: everywhere I go there are cars sitting around on dealer
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: lots and in storage like the done a lot of
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: airport trips recently in near Melbourne Airport. The storage yards
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: there Sydney as well, there are just cars sitting there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And I think we're reaching a point where there's a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: big glood of cars. And it's great if you're a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: car buyer at the moment because it means that you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: can pick up a good deal. Everyone is going to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: be doing deals, but there is a bit of a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: little bit of where do I want to use here.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: There's a bit of falseness to those deals because if
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you have a look at something like a ray of
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: four that's gone up like ten twenty thirty percent over
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the past sort of five years, it's become a lot
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: more expensive and nothing has really changed. So when they
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: do a deal, and Toyto won't do that anytime soon,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: But when a brand does a deal, you're not actually
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: really getting that much of a discount. You're just paying
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: less of an inflated price than you would have been otherwise.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a funny old market at the moment.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're about to be flooded with
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of choice, as you said, with the Chinese cars.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So I think we could even hit a situation where
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the baseline of car I don't know what would call
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: it quality or is there going to be cars that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: we just go Is there anything in the market that's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: standing out that's just great, not that expensive, is just
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: above the line, because like it's now going to be well,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily think it's going to be raised,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: but there's certainly.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: The problem is now brands like Mitsubishi with the Triton,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: they get lost now because the Trenton used to be
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a value proposition and it's now become expensive more expensive.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: The value proposition is now with the Chinese brands, which
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: there's more of coming in the dual cabute market. Absolutely,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the premium stuff is better than even the new Triton,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: so you can't charge more for it. So you're just
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: in this middle ground where no one really has a
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: reason to buy you. So I think a lot of
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: brands are going to fall into that, and brands like
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Citron and Persia, I mean, I think they are going
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to be some of the first victims to all this stuff,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Asuzu as well. Like we've got all these new emissions
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: regulations coming next year and you have to sell electric
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: cars to offset the fines that you're going to get.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I assume it has no electric cars, they don't electrify anything.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: So you're going to get to a point next year
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: where they're going to get these big fines that they
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: pass on to customers, and all of a sudden, the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: thing that was actually a good value for money is
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: now very expensive.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. And they're well built. They're well
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: built cars as too. I think they've got it. They've
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: certainly got a place.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And just on the Chinese cars again, you've got one
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: hundred and almost thirty car brands in China. Over half
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of those started in the last ten years, so you
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Australia has like sixty something car brands and it's one
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: of the most saturated markets in the world, so you're
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: going to have the potential for another ten or twenty
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: car brands to be here. I mean brands like Alfa Romeo.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Why would anyone buy one when you've got cheap options
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: with the Chinese premium stuff, with Toyota and the other brands.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It's really interesting.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the average family is going
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to be looking at a lot of these cars and going, well,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: hang on, that car is fifteen thousand dollars less than
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that other car I'm looking at. Plus it's comes with
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a seven year warranty. What's this bad stuff I'm hearing
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: about Chinese cars? I don't get it. I just drove it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: The average person isn't going to find like find the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you know, they could get in a tank three hundred
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and get in a GEP Wrangler yep, and it's I
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: think for most people they'll just kind of going, well,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I can't really tell the difference.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Well, when it comes to money, people care less. If
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you go the supermarket, if you've got an Australian made
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: product that's double the price at some point you're going
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: to go, Well, I want to support Australian made, but
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I also want to eat and not be broke. So
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I can see that in the car world's that's where
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: this is going to head. So it's interesting times.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I think we should wrap this up. Should we cue
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the wrap up music and just put it in there? Yeah?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Go for it, go for a queue, all right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So listen before we go. Here's what we've discovered about
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: each other today. You're driving a Ford Markeye. Is that
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: it staying a Markey? Why didn't you just take the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: normal Mustang?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: They look great, by the way, because A it's not
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: electric and B it doesn't fit family things.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I what you can fit a kid in the back
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of the eyes? I did.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And also they keep delaying the new Mustake.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yes that's true, Yeah they do. Many of minds ordered
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: it and he's been pushed back heaps. I'm driving a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Genesis GB sixty and I'll say it like that every
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: time we talk about it. I'm going to say it
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like this.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: The Genesis GB sixty. I drove it to my salon today.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Steven loves it. I love it more Genesis.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I'm keen to hear from anyone who's still listening to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: this at this point. Would you buy China? You have
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to finish, you have to do the whole thing.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Genesis has to be the exact same every time. Makes
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: me moist every time I.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Drive it to the zelle.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: For the time I put my pop here pathlay into
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the front seat. He's such a cheeky kulud cheeky bitch,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: such a ch.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: An emotional. There's a cheek bitch.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: He's sniffing for.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: A bone, looking off as a bonus.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Would you buy a Chinese car? I'm genuinely curious. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people say they wouldn't, But if
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you had to, would you buy a Chinese car? And
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: if not, why not contact at the Drivers Show dot com?
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: That are you? I don't think we're going to try
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: and commit to doing these a little more often.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Well, that's completely up to you contractually. Yes, there is,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: there's your signature, and there is my gun sound to us.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: See you next week. Everybody