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Nationals play-by-play broadcaster Charlie Slowes joins us to talk some BASEBALL! · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Our friend, the one the only Charlie slows Charlie.
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What's up, buddy? I may be clicking that link
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right now, Charlie. There's some.
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Here we go a bunch. The Scoot doesn't like steak.
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Look at you. You're still sexy, Charlie.
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You're still sexy. That's a lot.
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That's a. Lot of me you've got up there.
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Yeah, a lot of meat, a lot of meat with a lot of you.
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But how you guys doing? Well, good man, how are you?
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I'm so happy to get you on. I know you've been very, very
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busy. The season is over.
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You have to watch that wonderful baseball over there in national
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world, in Washington, national world.
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But we all know you. Come from here.
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We, we all know you come from the New York area, so I mean,
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there's something to say about that.
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But we got a lot of baseball to get into, my friends, and to let
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you get into the conversation. We're going to bring some fish
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in and we're going to get into it because there's there's so
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much that we need to get into and we're going to whip around
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right now. Now let's go deep, deep inside
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what I am excited. This is inside baseball all.
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Right, Charlie, welcome to our segment Inside Baseball.
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Thanks for humouring us tonight. We got a bunch of topics we'd
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like you to have some input on going on in the early offseason
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here so far this year. So let's get into the Inside
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Baseball viewpoint here and we'll get it going with our
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first topic tonight and we should have the music going.
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Anyone. Second, Tommy doesn't.
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Doesn't. I'm not doing any freaking tag.
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There we go, we got it. Here it is.
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The Mets have given Devin Williams quite a large contract.
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Three years, 51,000,006 million of which is a signing bonus.
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So it's really three years, 45,000,000.
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No opt outs or options deferred over the span of three years for
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that signing bonus. So Williams follows Juan Soto as
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Yankees acquisitions who bolted for Uncle Stevie's money over in
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Queens the last two years. Advanced Analytics say Williams
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was very unlucky last year and should have been much better
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than he was. That's kind of funny because I
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remember him being mostly horrendous for a team that
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needed him to be much better than that.
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I'm sure it'll work out for the Mets though, Harold.
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I love it. I think it's great for the Mets.
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Edwin Diaz has a chance to be a Met too.
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I think the Mets will re sign him and then you have probably
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the best 1-2 punch in baseball in your bullpen.
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I I think Devin Williams was very unlucky last year.
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Now you just got to get Pete Alonzo signed to the dotted line
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and then maybe you make a run for scuba.
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I think it makes a lot of sense for the Mets rotation.
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You will add scuba and Devin Williams and you bring back Pete
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Alonzo and Edwin Diaz. I think you have the best summer
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out. I think it's a slam dunk for the
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New York Mets. I think they have to sign Diaz.
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I mean, he's the guy that's really proven.
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I mean, Williams best days in the big leagues really one year
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as a as a closer before that a setup guy.
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And he had a lot of issues last year pitching for the Yankees.
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And I guess you put me in the category of being old when you
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mentioned that he was unlucky based on expected stats.
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So I'm going to throw a question at Java.
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Don't you wish when you were playing your your agent could
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negotiate a deal on expected stats versus what actually
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happened? I mean, now when a hitter's
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getting credit for a ball is hit and it doesn't matter if it's
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caught or not, I mean, it's expected.
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Stats now mean more than what actually happens.
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Yeah, it's, it's weird too. And if you go even a step
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further, Charlie too, it's like, okay, he got out, but his exit
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velocity and all the other stuff that they they have and it's
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like then they translate it to parks and he would actually hit
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10 more homers or whatever. And, you know, a lot of pitches
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are doing that with like their vertical and horizontal rise on
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certain mounds when they look at like, hey, I pitched better
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here. And then now they're doing the
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analytics of the way the mound sits in this, which is way above
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my pay grade. I don't know how they do that or
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whatever. Now on the scoreboard, you can
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see it as it happens. But yeah, I just, I don't know
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how to quantify the fact. It's like, OK, I'm getting
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credit for being kind of good, but it didn't really do I I
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think it's a great sign for both in the in the way they kind of
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structured the deal, obviously. And it's not like anything is
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going to catch him off guard now just because the Mets are a
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little different than the Yankees, but not as much as
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going from Milwaukee to New York and and especially with the
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Yankees. So I think it's great too.
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And, and I think for him, he's not going to have all the
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pressure if they do sign Diaz back.
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If they don't, that's we could be having a different
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conversation when it comes down to what happens at the end of
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the game. You think the expected stats are
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going to matter for Kyle Schwarber?
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I don't think so. I think he's just doing a yes, I
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was going to mention the expected stats too, because the
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Brewers were kind of skewed the other way.
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Like I think in that in that park and Charlie, I know you've
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broadcasted a lot of games there too.
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You could mostly turn into a pitcher's park.
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Sometimes when the roof is closed, it could be open and
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then it could be a hitter's park again.
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So it could fluctuate with that. With the Yankees, it's the other
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extreme and all the AL ES ballparks, the other extreme.
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Now the Mets, it's a different case where they're mostly a
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pitcher's park. The Phillies are a big hitter's
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park and the Braves kind of fluctuate.
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So I think it's going to kind of cancel out in a way.
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So again, I agree with you, Charlie.
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I think they do have to lock up Diaz too.
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If they don't do that then it doesn't look as good doing both.
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But I think I for the deferred money, for the overall money
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he's getting with the signing bonus instead of the base
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salary, I think it's good. I think the success with him in
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the National League makes a lot of sense why he went back to the
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National League and now I want to say in the American League
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East, because he was one of the best relief pitchers in all the
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baseball in the National League, and he became one of the worst
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relief pitchers in baseball in the American League.
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So I think he just wanted to jump ship.
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He wanted to get the hell out of the American League.
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I wonder this, I don't know this, this is maybe a better
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question for our baseball experts here.
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If it is it something where if you're a change of pitcher, like
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he's a change of pitcher, the Airbender, if he can't place his
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fastball, the change up's not going to work.
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So is it just a matter of him just fixing the mechanics on the
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fastball enough that he can place it to get the change up,
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which is apparently still fine according to those metrics and
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stuff rates to get back to it so that he can be effective for the
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Mets as a setup man for Diaz if they resign Diaz?
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Yeah, I mean, it's it, it pit, they play off each other.
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And I think that's any, any pitcher where if that's your
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strength, you always like everything goes with that.
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Like if I couldn't throw my fastball, for me, I would spin a
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slider because it'd get me back over.
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And for him, I couldn't, I couldn't throw a change up of my
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life depended on it. So I, I can't tell you how I
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tried everything under the sun to try and do it.
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But for him, it's like he just has to be somewhere in the
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vicinity because the metrics on his board horizontal and
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vertical with his change up and how he's able to over pronate
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because you naturally pronate on a baseball.
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And what did he just has to be somewhere near the zone of this
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fastball. And we seem to be as high as
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9798, but we also saw it saw it at 9293, which it doesn't really
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matter because it comes out of the same slot.
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So you're going to have like that one pitch that gets you
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there. And for him, his fastball just
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has to be somewhere in the vicinity for his change up to
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work. Because it's not like the same
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as Trevor Hoffman, who didn't need anything else, right?
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All I mean he just threw change up after change.
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Up. I guess we'll find out if he can
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get it squared away. Let's move on to our next set of
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signings. And this one is related because
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it's a now former Mets hopeful, late inning reliever Ryan
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Helsley, who gets a two year $28 million deal from the Baltimore
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Orioles. Jeff Passan reports the Orioles
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signed Ryan Helsley to A2 year $28 million deal with an OPT out
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after the first year. Ports say Tigers and Cubs were
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interested in signing Helsley and converting him to a starter.
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Helsley's another one of those advanced analytics darlings
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because of his stuffed metrics, particularly his fastball.
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But again, this time the Mets fans who saw him be borderline
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unplayable last year after they acquired him at the deadline.
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Borderline might be generous body.
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Guys get traded middle of the year, don't have big impacts on
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on their new club, but he had one of the most negative impacts
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of a guy being traded at the deadline over those final two
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months of the season. But it's all being attributed to
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that. He was tipping pitches and it
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took him a long time to figure it out.
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But he thinks he has figured it out.
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And I guess the Orioles believe it or they wouldn't be putting
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this money up front. They think he's going to be the
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pitcher that had great success with the Cardinals.
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I think the Mets are getting slapped in the face because they
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gave up all these prospects and it didn't turn around for them.
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He didn't do nothing for him. He was horrible.
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I think his ERA at one point was over 10.
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He was Devin Williams of the New York Yankees early in the
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season. Devin Williams got better in the
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second-half. Helsley was traded in the going
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into the second-half at the trade deadline and just I don't
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know, I honestly think the Mets should have just sent him down
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to AAA because he was he was playing like a AAA pitcher.
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So I don't know what he's going to be with the Orioles.
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He is jumping to the American League East with power teams
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like Boston, the Yankees, the Rays.
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I it doesn't bold well for him and he maybe he should talk to
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Devin Williams because it seems like it's a transition from 1:00
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one to the other. I I would say I would hope that
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Halsey looks a lot better this year in the American League
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East. I bet.
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I would say don't bet on it. Yeah, as as annoying as I could
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be with the Mets and what it was, I will be objective and say
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his peak value was still very strong.
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He was just he's kind of one of those year to year.
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Like he's very good in some of his peak years.
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That 2021 year with the Cardinals when they that big
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comeback to make the playoffs was kind of his peak year.
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And then he's had some other good ones after that too.
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But the, the reason that I you worry about it is because a lot
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of the struggles and Charlie, you know, this broadcasting like
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the Nationals and like a lot of these other bad teams had the
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biggest innings against him. And that was a big reason why I
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think that you guys beat us 5 another six times, like in the
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second-half of the season. The Marlins are beating all over
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them. So the Orioles are now going to
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have to face a division that's very tough to go along with that
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and an American League collectively that, I mean, the
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AL East is good. The AL West is pretty good too,
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outside of the Athletics and the Angels really like you're
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looking at a case of that's going to be some good
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competition. The Orioles are the Browns of
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baseball. That's who they are.
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That's harsh. They're the Browns of baseball.
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They have all this talent and everybody talks so highly of
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them. Remember the Browns with Baker
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Mayfield after they they had that talented and they had a
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great year again and lose to Kansas City in the playoffs and
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they were one expected to possibly win the Super Bowl as
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Speedy Adam going to the Super Bowl that year.
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And they completely fell off track and then they winded up
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moving Baker Mayfield in a year, year's time, that is the
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Orioles. They had all this talent.
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Everybody expects this talent to develop and they slowly but
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surely can't afford them and they move away from them.
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This is a perfect comparison. Browns.
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Orioles. You might be giving the Browns
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you. Know Johnny?
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Where are you buddy? Now he was right about that.
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Trade though, because. In addition to Helsley, Cedric
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Bowles was God awful too that he was benched.
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And he just got traded to the Rays.
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Yes, he did. I actually signed as a free
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agent. Today, our free agent.
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Yeah, but sometimes I've talked about this and.
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And you've seen it too, Charlie, where it's like, and I think we
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all have is sometimes change of scenery does more for people
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than they think just because it it might be and it might just
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not be the baseball side of it, which a lot of people don't
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understand. They, you know, that there's so
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much more to the season than the 9 innings that you see.
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Like there's, you know, family arrangement, there's, you know,
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travel. There's, there's so much more
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that goes into what a baseball season is that a lot of people
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don't understand that goes into, you know, obviously people
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playing hurt and whatever. That's yeah, that's obviously
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part of the game with, with the season and the grueling schedule
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that we have. But there's so many factors that
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go into it where it's like, man, I just need to get out of here.
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We've seen obviously and so. I think on the whole, I mean,
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you could, you know, throw what you think in on this.
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Players traded in the middle of the year.
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If if you look at all of them over a period of time, they're
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very few that have a great success with their new club.
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Over those final few months, you talked about all the things that
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happened, family upheaval. Now you got the pressure team
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traded for you, they're expecting you to deliver and
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maybe you weren't you maybe you were traded because you weren't
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having a great year and now you're expected to figure it all
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out to help the team that's in contention.
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That's that's more pressure than you had at any point during the
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during the year and try a lot of guys don't do well in that
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situation. And you know, when player
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becomes a free agent, they'd rather see who signs now will
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come to the winter meetings. Nobody likes waiting around
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until late January, early February and spring trading
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starting. And they got to figure all that
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out and then and then get to Arizona or Florida, right?
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Away yeah, it's it's tough like I've done it both ways for
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agency I've never ever done it during the year but obviously
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been a part of the things that guys getting traded.
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I've always, I've always wondered the, the perception,
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the mindset for guys. And I hope I get an opportunity
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to ask somebody. This is what it's like going
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from a team that like you kind of said where you might suck and
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you're out of it, but then you're coming to a team that now
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is in it and they're expecting you to figure something out
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because they've seen glimpses of it.
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And then vice versa of like, Hey, I was in it.
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Now they can't afford me. I'm going to get too expensive,
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so they're going to get rid of me.
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And then it's like, you end up like playing for what?
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Like I, I would like to know like the mindset and the
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perspective that you go and it's like, Hey, tell your family to
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go home because we can start packing our bags for vacation.
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And now it's like, hey, you might want to hold off on this
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vacation because now we got a chance to be in the play
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outline. I wonder what that like
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perspective that mindset because you only get 3 days.
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Yeah, You know, it's interesting.
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A couple of years ago the Nationals had signed Jesse
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Winker and he was coming off a couple really bad years.
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He was getting booed out of Seattle.
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He didn't do well in Milwaukee, was getting booed there.
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The Nationals signed him. If he did well, the team wasn't
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in contention. They were going to trade him.
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And he was having a very good year for the Nationals and was
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ecstatic when he got traded to the Mets.
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And he was a big impact player, so much so that the Mets
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resigned him last year. Unfortunately, the injuries he
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had oblique injuries, you know, can take a long time.
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And then he he got hurt again, never recovered from his
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injuries. That's the other thing, you
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know, if you're a player who's traded, who's been hurt.
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Even Kyle Schwarber when he had that monster June for the
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Nationals in 21 when he hit sixteen home runs.
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He was having an unbelievable year and then blows A hamstring.
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The Nationals have a terrible July and they got all these
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players on expiring contracts including Schwarber who was a
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non tender off his previous year with the Cubs.
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When the National signed him they traded him to the Red Sox.
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He didn't play for like 6 weeks till that hamstring healed.
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He did OK with them, but that still helped him get that big
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deal that now has expired with the Phillies.
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But you know you I can count very few that are traded in the
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middle of the year and have great success and parlay that
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into another big deal, whether with the club they were traded
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to, Usually not not. I mean, most times you see that
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that player never resigns with a team that they were treated to
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like Helsley. Another TOE job.
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Charlie, it's funny, you bet you mentioned the Jesse Waker thing
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five years ago, like 2019 or so. Like best fans hated him because
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he was taunting them when he was with Cincinnati.
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I was actually at the game right after that, they lost one
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nothing and he caught the game where he in left field, the game
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where he catch for it and they were still booing him at that
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point and then five years later they all love him.
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He tastes himself all. Right, let's get to the next
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topic. I'm going to combine these two
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together because they're both about the Toronto Blue Jays.
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Let's start with the big news. The Blue Jays, John Heyman
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reports, have signed Dylan sees to A7 year $210 million deal
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comes out today. Actually 61 million of it is
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deferred, spread out between 2027 and 2032.
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You will also receive a $23 million signing bonus that can
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be deferred. This is despite an only 8 and 12
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record on a good team with a 4 1/2 ERFA with his usual
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impressive strikeout total of 215.
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I don't know. I mean, obviously the Blue Jays
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only have Gaussman and Bieber on expiring contracts this year,
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but I don't know if this is where I'm spending my money
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after what I saw him do on a team that was trying to compete
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if they're trying to get over the top.
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Well, I will say this. Bieber is no longer going to be
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a part of his team. He pitched so very well in in
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the World Series and throughout the playoffs.
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I expect Bieber to get at least 20 million.
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I don't think the Blue Jays are going to pay him because they
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gave Dylan Sees this kind of money.
22:03
Now Dylan Sees is a good pitcher.
22:06
Is he an elite pitcher? Is he worth 210 million?
22:10
No. Now the Blue Jays are reaching
22:12
and hopefully Dylan Sees coming to the American League East a
22:16
harder division, probably the hardest division in all of
22:18
baseball. It works out for him.
22:20
This is very Blue Jays like to go after a pitcher because he's
22:26
available and he looks like he's a shiny, shiny dollar or shiny
22:31
100 and or shiny coin and it's going to turn into gold.
22:36
I think this is going to be an absolute downfall for the Blue
22:39
Jays. This is a bad move for them.
22:41
It doesn't make any sense. But again, it is the Blue Jays
22:45
and they did give Vladimir Guerrero Junior the money they
22:48
did up front and it worked out for him.
22:50
So maybe they hit it out of the ballpark with Dylan CS.
22:53
My opinion, it's an absolute downfall for them.
22:56
This is a bad move by them. It's interest.
22:58
They signed Cody Ponce, who was pitching in the KB O and
23:02
supposedly turned his pair around and just gave him a
23:06
three-year, $30 million deal off of what he did in the KBO and
23:09
expect him to be in the starting rotation with Gozman.
23:13
You Savage. It was tremendous in the
23:15
postseason, the young rookie and I and I saw today that they're
23:19
open to trading Jose Berrios. And then of course you still
23:22
have Max Scherzer who wants to come back there.
23:25
If not, some of the talk is that he could end up with the Giants
23:28
because the guy who was his pitching coach at Missouri in
23:32
the early 2000s is now the manager of the San Francisco
23:37
Giants. How about that?
23:38
That's a. Full circle, yeah.
23:39
He played against him in Missouri.
23:41
He threw like 112. He was he he was the only one
23:43
that beat me that year. He won pitcher of the year.
23:45
I won Newcomer of the Year. I still hold it against him.
23:50
I. Bet he hasn't forgotten a second
23:51
of it because. 100 that dude is that dude is nuts when it comes
23:55
to like remembering things. And it's just he he he was a
23:59
very like playing against him and you hear all the stories
24:02
then having a chance to to play with him in Detroit and I've
24:06
been playing against him since I've been in college.
24:08
So kind of just seeing his demeanor as he's gone through he
24:12
he was a treat. I can I can say that.
24:14
Here is I was around him for the 6 1/2 years, almost 7 with the
24:19
nationals. Nothing was more fun than the
24:23
day he pitched, watching everything he did.
24:27
There's nobody like him. There just isn't.
24:30
I mean, he would come in spring training.
24:31
I was doing AQ and a with a couple of rookie pitchers at the
24:34
time, and he was standing in the back when the thing was was
24:39
coming to a close. And I had no idea why he was
24:41
there. He had no function.
24:43
He was waiting for those two guys to be done.
24:45
He's like, come on, rookies. We're going to watch video and
24:48
that video of him, video of that, because he wanted to help
24:52
them get better because the only thing that meant is we were
24:54
going to win more games and that's the only thing he cared
24:57
about. Did you ever watch his bullpen
24:59
days? Oh, it's all the time full
25:02
uniform. He's going out there like I'm
25:05
watching the coverage of the World Series this year and
25:07
they're showing like like nobody had ever seen this before.
25:11
But every day that he pitches, when he goes out his pre warm up
25:16
in the outfield where he's just working on his pick off move and
25:20
looking over his shoulder and he's got a routine.
25:23
You know, they ask why are you throwing your bullpen in full
25:25
uniform? He goes, well, I'm trying to
25:27
simulate what I do in the game. I don't pitch in AT shirt in the
25:30
game. So I'm going to throw in my full
25:33
uniform. And after, you know, stuff
25:35
starts to rub off. When Dusty Baker was the
25:37
manager, he tell young pitchers who were staying around and go
25:40
watch what Max doing. Go talk to him, find out what he
25:43
eats, how long he sleeps, find out everything that he does.
25:47
Not that all of it will translate, but that's the way
25:49
everyone looked at Max. Yeah, it was funny.
25:53
One of the I went to a game in 2016 in Washington and like
25:56
they, you know, obviously has a different two different color
25:58
eyes. The way they like put it in the
26:00
left center field. Like I don't know if there's a
26:02
poster or was like just so kind of ready.
26:04
Like it was really cool the way they did it with the effects
26:07
and. Hey, whole season game, Dusty
26:11
Baker went out there to talk to him.
26:13
Max didn't want to come out of the game.
26:14
He goes I'm trying to trust you. I'm looking at two different
26:17
eyes and Max said. The brown eyes.
26:19
The baseball eye. And then I saw like all these,
26:21
all the road teams are doing it on the Jumbotron for a while
26:23
too. And like they were kind of just
26:25
duplicated that effect. But you guys did a left center
26:27
field. It was very cool.
26:28
Going back to the SEAS contract, if it wasn't a deferred money, I
26:31
probably would be questioning why it was 7 years because of a
26:33
guy that's been very injury prone in his career, kind of
26:35
streaky up and down, good strikeout stuff always
26:37
throughout his career, but also has been immune to the home run
26:39
ball for a pitcher of his caliber too.
26:41
So if it wasn't deferred money, I would probably would question
26:44
it too. But like I will say it's another
26:46
veteran right-handed pitcher that goes to the Blue Jays.
26:48
They already have Gossman who's good barrios.
26:50
You're saying Charlie, Maybe they trade him now as a result
26:52
of this. I'm surprised they did it
26:53
though, as a result of how well you savage pitch in the at the
26:56
end of the season and then in the.
26:57
Playoffs. It doesn't make any sense.
26:59
It really doesn't make any sense.
27:01
But it's very Blue Jays like everything the Blue Jays does
27:05
makes no sense. But it it worked out this year
27:09
with Vladimir Guerrero because he keep he became a playoff
27:12
superstar. One of the greatest runs I've
27:14
ever seen a player have throughout a playoff.
27:16
So maybe they were right about him, but this is.
27:20
Tell you what it. Makes you shake if.
27:22
Kinder Falefa doesn't slide. They're the world.
27:25
They're the world champions. I would agree with.
27:28
You pretty well it was not. It wasn't A tag play, but I
27:31
guess instinct said slide when he could have just run right
27:35
through home plate on a force play.
27:37
He would have beaten the play and they would have won the
27:38
World Series. And and and Yankee fans, please
27:42
Brian Cashman, stay away from kind of falafa.
27:45
I do not want to. Again, they can.
27:48
They can have a breakup and then he's going to go back.
27:50
I do not. They're saying there's, they're
27:52
saying that the Yankees are the lead team to get him.
27:54
What are they not? To make him their starting
27:57
shortstop again, it's. Horrible.
27:58
It's a horrible move. Brian Cashman, you better not do
28:01
that. As a utility, As a utility
28:04
player, OK it. Makes no sense.
28:07
It makes no. Sense.
28:08
Well, let's talk about another one of Brian Cashman's wonderful
28:11
decisions over the years. And now, years later, Sonny Gray
28:17
ends up on our rival Boston Red Sox.
28:24
Yes, the Cardinals traded Sonny Gray to the Red Sox.
28:26
Red Sox #5 overall prospect, right hand pitcher Brandon Clark
28:29
and right hand pitcher Richard Fitz and a player to be named
28:32
later a cash considerations. On his way over to Boston, Gray
28:35
took shots at his now rival and former team, the Yankees, saying
28:37
he never wanted to be traded there.
28:40
And they are an organization that are easy to hate.
28:43
Yankees fans mostly remember Gray as being an absolute
28:45
disaster in the Bronx and are excited to go see him play the
28:48
place where he apparently had even worse numbers in his
28:51
career, Fenway Park, than he did in at Yankee Stadium.
28:55
So in my opinion, probably the best example, Sonny Gray is a
28:59
guy who couldn't handle the big media market of New York.
29:02
Well, I don't think it's going to be a whole lot.
29:05
I don't think that's going to be a whole lot different in Boston.
29:08
I mean, New York, Boston and Philadelphia, you got to perform
29:12
or, or it gets tough really fast.
29:15
I mean, Saint Louis, this was the first time I've ever seen
29:21
and the attendance dropped like it did.
29:23
And you go there and there's 17,000 an ounce and it looked
29:26
like there were 5000 in the ballpark.
29:29
But if you played there, you never got booed until this year.
29:32
You started to see that. But you're talking about if you
29:35
think you're going to Boston and it's going to be a whole lot
29:39
less than New York. I don't know.
29:41
What do you think? Java let me a lot of pressure to
29:44
play in Boston, Yeah. I don't, I don't know kind of
29:47
what he was thinking, to be honest with you, Because it's
29:52
it's funny how he's going to say this to try to get on the good
29:56
side of Red Sox fan. Because now it's like, OK,
29:59
you're part of this rivalry, even though you know, you've
30:01
only played for the Yankees, so on and so forth, right?
30:04
But if you go back and read it, some of what he said and when in
30:07
like 2017 and even later, it's, you know, everybody dreams of
30:10
playing for the Yankees, blah, blah.
30:11
Now he's talking out of the other side of his mouth, which
30:15
doesn't do him any good. Because now what's going to
30:18
happen is he can't win for loser no matter what he does.
30:21
Because unless he goes out and wins a Cy Young and they win a
30:24
World Series, he's not going to. He's going to be a fail because
30:27
he didn't live up to the shit talking that he did to the
30:29
Yankees fans. He's not going to live Austin
30:32
fans. And if he doesn't beat New York
30:34
to add on top of it, this dude might as well crawl in a hole
30:36
and never come out of Nashville where he lives.
30:38
He just created the ultimate blackboard material, didn't he?
30:43
Let me ask Sonny Gray one question.
30:45
Johnny Damon played for the Yankees for a very long time,
30:48
and he also played for the Red Sox.
30:50
Johnny Damon for years took shots at the Red Sox
30:53
organization that they don't know how to treat players.
30:56
And then he came to the Yankees and he said the Yankees treat
30:59
their players like they're golden, like they there are five
31:01
star restaurants. Everywhere they go is five star.
31:04
They treat their players with so much respect.
31:07
And now this guy, because Sonny Gray couldn't get along with the
31:09
fans, couldn't pitch a lick in New York, he's going to take
31:13
shots at the fans and take shots at the Yankees organization.
31:16
You know what I would say to that?
31:18
Go ask all the former Red Sox that became Yankees how the
31:22
Yankees treated them because every single one of them that
31:25
I've heard through the past leaving the Red Sox and came to
31:27
the Yankees, including Wade Boggs, who came to the Yankees
31:32
in 96 to win a World Series, said the Yankees organization is
31:37
so classy. It's one of the classiest
31:39
organizations I've ever been around.
31:41
And he was a red sock his whole career.
31:43
So, Sonny, stop bitching, all right?
31:46
That's all I'm going to say. All you do is bitch.
31:48
And you shouldn't be called Sonny anymore.
31:50
You should be called manly because you don't have a man
31:55
hair in your pants because you can't say anything right at any
32:00
view to a Yankee fan. You're a failure with the
32:03
Yankees and you're going to be a failure with the red.
32:05
Sox, you know all he had to do, honestly.
32:07
And the thing that you learn with these bigger markets or any
32:11
market, if he would have came out and said, yeah, you know
32:14
what? Because they asked him about the
32:16
Yankee Red Sox, probably right, Going to look good in so many
32:19
eyes. Talk about I'm really looking
32:21
forward to being part of this rivalry.
32:22
It's a great thing for, you know, for baseball and sports in
32:25
general. And you know what?
32:27
I didn't cut it in New York. I want to go out and be better
32:30
than I was in New York and Boston.
32:32
They would have had that. He would have been perfect
32:34
because he would have killed him with kindness on the New York
32:37
side, because you know what? He admitted he sucked starring.
32:39
All right, at least whatever. We can't really bag somebody.
32:42
It's like when you talk about Charlie Sheen, he said he was
32:44
doing 8G Rots with hookers. You can't talk any worse crap
32:47
about him because he just told you what it is.
32:50
So if he goes and says, hey, I'm terrible, sorry, I'm want to be
32:54
better for this rivalry boom. Like he would have literally
32:57
been. He could have gotten away with a
33:00
couple of hiccups and even lose the Yankees and then be like,
33:02
see, you stink. But Boston been like, OK, he he
33:05
hit a guy or something. Like there's ways he could have
33:07
gone about this to look good. In both eyes he set himself up
33:11
for failure right? But before he even goes throw 1
33:14
bitch. Randy Johnson won 17 games two
33:16
years in a row, but he dropped a cameraman and nobody cared what
33:20
he did. And always become one.
33:22
As long as she's using dude wipes and taking.
33:24
Care of my that's. Good.
33:25
So Charlie, I do have to venture this.
33:27
This is the origin story. So three years before we ever
33:30
first had you all the show, I had my trial show essentially at
33:34
the Worldwide Sports Radio Network, Carol and two other
33:37
guys and they were talking about guys.
33:38
Obviously it was July 21st, so it was right around the MLB
33:41
trade deadline and I forget it was Maddie Caps and it was
33:44
somebody else that were really wanted, Sonny Gray on the
33:47
Yankees. You know what I said?
33:48
Yeah, I remember that. I was very skeptical of it
33:51
because he was a softer throwing, like not high velocity
33:55
and not a high strikeout rate pitcher.
33:56
At that time I was saying they should have tried to trade for
33:59
Verland. Do you remember the line I used
34:00
for him? No, I don't.
34:02
I wish I did. Sonny is a dummy.
34:05
That's what I said during the show and and that was the line I
34:09
used and I remember it like it was yesterday.
34:11
You go back and you remember what, but I said I did not want
34:14
Sonny Gray. I did not think he was going to
34:16
work out here. He's small, he's he.
34:19
He throws a lot of off speed pitches and it wasn't going to
34:22
work out in Yankee statement. By the way, he gives up a lot of
34:25
pop ups. Yeah, and I was skeptical of the
34:27
same thing at the time, too. Now, he was a good postseason
34:29
pitcher, which is something that the Yankees needed for a while
34:31
because outside of Tanaka, they really didn't have that second
34:34
postseason pitcher. And he actually was pretty good
34:35
with the A's. But I was worried about that
34:37
when he first got traded over there to the Yankees.
34:39
And I had a feeling it wasn't going to last over there.
34:41
And at the time I was he's saying, OK, it's going to be a
34:43
small parks issue. He goes to Cincinnati and he
34:45
actually pitches well. So I'm like, no, maybe it was a
34:47
market issue. And like you both Charlie and
34:50
Java works in discussing. So like, how much of those can
34:52
you be able to handle in a super harsh media market?
34:54
And now you go to Boston. So yes, you might have your
34:56
chipper on your shoulder getting to play against the Yankees, the
34:58
other ALS East teams. But again, Fenway Park is no
35:01
factor to small ballparks either.
35:03
The rah rah shish kumba. All right, let's move on.
35:09
We got another one revolving around the Yankees.
35:13
This one. I actually saw Mr. Jabba
35:16
Chamberlain tweeting about this while it was happening in real
35:19
time. How Steinbrenner?
35:21
I don't know. Said that would be pretty good
35:26
for the Yankees to save some money this year that, you know,
35:30
it's not just because the report says that, you know, just like
35:35
we said with Odell, 100 million goes real quick on Monday.
35:39
Oh, Hal said that 700 million revenue that the Yankees are
35:42
getting, you know, there's a lot of costs and overhead that we
35:46
don't really get it as fans. There's a lot that has to go
35:50
into it before. So, you know, like the Yankees
35:54
need to find a way to save some money for Hal's benefit.
35:57
Mike Francesa, as we know, took lots of shots at Hal for this
36:02
and said that he added the Dodgers made the Yankees look
36:05
like an 8 bowl organization. George would have never allowed
36:08
the Dodgers to do this. I can't believe the Yankees are
36:12
saying they're not making a profit.
36:16
I mean, it's not looking the way that we want.
36:20
When you hear it come out that so many teams in baseball are
36:25
not turning a profit, I mean, I watched this year Commissioner
36:30
go around to each team and talk to him about how trying to set
36:33
the table for the labor negotiations and tell players,
36:37
you know, this continues. Only a few players are going to
36:40
make big money and the rest of you are going to be stuck around
36:43
the minimum. I mean, I've, I've heard that
36:45
speech from in sports for how many decades now?
36:49
And you look at every sport, even with the salary cap, you
36:52
know, the money keeps going up and TV revenue keeps getting
36:56
bigger and bigger. So at the same time that he's
36:59
saying this to the players, he comes out of these meetings and
37:03
talks to reporters and you have all these new TV deals coming in
37:07
that he's setting up now to run through 28 before they put it
37:11
all up for auction, including streaming package to involve as
37:14
many teams as possible. And then say that attendance on
37:18
average baseball better than it's ever been.
37:21
So if you're a player, you're hearing two different stories
37:24
coming from, you know, each side of his mouth, unless, you know,
37:29
you look back my previous life, I worked in the NBA for 11
37:32
years. The NBA had the boom after the
37:35
salary cap. And they did that to save the
37:37
league. But the only way it worked with
37:39
the union is they opened the books and said, we're going to
37:42
give you 51% of everything that we make and you're going to be
37:46
able to see it. The baseball owners want a
37:48
salary cap. They're never going to open the
37:50
books and show you all the money that they're making that's
37:54
outside of attendance and all these other deals.
37:56
And who knows what is involved with these betting companies
37:59
that are doing all this advertising.
38:01
And if we ever go there, the worst thing that's ever happened
38:08
to sports and athletes because you all I can say is what did
38:13
they think was going to happen? I will.
38:16
I will say this, I like Mike Francesi.
38:18
Everybody knows he's a guy that I look up to when it comes to
38:21
radio, and I love that he attacked Hal Steinbrenner.
38:25
But the fact here is the Yankees are one of the richest teams in
38:30
all of professional baseball. And Francesca.
38:32
Yankees and Dallas Cowboys, right?
38:34
Yeah. And Francesca, and they sell
38:36
more. I buy more.
38:37
I buy more Yankee hats than anybody does.
38:39
So I know I put a lot of money in the Yankees pockets.
38:42
So if I'm doing it, I know there's other fans doing the
38:45
same thing. I've got a million different
38:47
hats and different colors for the New York Yankees.
38:50
I absolutely believe that Al Steinbrenner is making excuses.
38:53
I don't like to defer money. I think baseball needs to step
38:55
in and do something about it. But nevertheless, I think he's
38:59
absolutely right. The Yankees should be going out
39:01
there and spending mucho De Niro, even though they're one of
39:04
the the top five teams in baseball.
39:06
They were the number one team in baseball when it comes to
39:08
salaries and now they fall into 3rd or 4th.
39:11
That to me is a problem. And when the Yankees are getting
39:14
outbidden for Juan Soto, even though I didn't want Juan Soto,
39:18
I I put it on paper. I I did not want to keep Juan
39:21
Soto. I just believe that it was
39:23
embarrassing watching the Mets win a bidding contest for Juan
39:28
Soto. It was embarrassing.
39:29
And the Yankees. And he's right.
39:31
Francesca's right. George Steinbetter would have
39:33
never let that happen. No way, No way.
39:35
Never let that happen. Well.
39:36
He he he probably would not have gone through the season without
39:40
making a change in the dugout, either.
39:42
Yeah, he would have gotten to a lot more extreme measures.
39:44
And you're talking about like you were mentioning Charlie too,
39:46
like some of these owners that aren't going to change their
39:48
ways just based on that too. Like George Steinbrenner was
39:51
still going to commit to his way no matter what if he was still
39:53
there. Hal Steinbrenner is still going
39:55
to. I'm not going to say like spend
39:57
like like the Brewers do or anything like that, but.
39:59
Like, you know, the biggest problem they have in the game
40:01
when they talk about, oh, we need a salary cap because of
40:04
competitive balance, OK, well, all these teams taking revenue
40:09
sharing. There's nothing that forces
40:11
them, although there there was a penalty involved like for the
40:14
Marlins and the Pirates, at some point they had to add more money
40:17
to payroll to avoid a penalty. I remember that.
40:20
But most of the time we don't know if this revenue sharing
40:22
that's going to these smaller market teams is going
40:25
immediately into the Major League payroll.
40:28
And you know, their way around that is to just add more teams
40:32
to be allowed to get into the playoffs.
40:34
And that way, you know, those teams that don't spend go, you
40:37
know, what, if we have a lucky year, we we had a few pieces and
40:41
we're hanging around 500 in July.
40:44
We're in the wild card hunt here and we have a shot.
40:46
And then maybe we get in and maybe we get lucky and and get
40:49
deep in the tournament. So that's but to me and and I
40:55
love to hear like with Jabba being an ex player with this,
40:59
the difference salary and how much you spend.
41:03
Even though the Dodgers are back-to-back, there's no
41:05
guarantee that you're going to be healthy enough to get through
41:08
the postseason win. But but it what it does do is
41:13
sell out your ballpark during the regular season.
41:15
And that's why they have all that money.
41:17
And the teams that look at San Diego, if you go back 15 years,
41:21
they didn't have big crowds coming to Petco Park.
41:24
Now you added superstars to that team and that's one of the best
41:28
atmospheres in baseball. That's it's amazing to go watch
41:31
a Padres game there. It doesn't, no matter who
41:33
they're playing, it's just a tremendous atmosphere and a
41:36
ballpark is sold out every night and that's why they have the
41:39
money to spend and give these these these big contracts.
41:42
But that's what fills the seats. People are not going to go watch
41:45
a team that doesn't have any star players on a cold night in
41:49
April or September unless they're in contention and you
41:52
have a chance to win. Yeah, I think and they go hand
41:56
in hand because they they spend the money to have those guys
42:00
with jersey sales, with all the other stuff to get people in the
42:04
seats. But then why the TV deals keep
42:07
coming is because now it's like, OK, well, if they're not
42:10
watching here, they're watching it somewhere else and they're
42:12
going to they're going to buy whatever package or whatever it
42:15
is to be able to make sure that they watch their favorite
42:18
player. They could live all the way
42:19
across the country and then do that.
42:21
But then they follow them no matter what.
42:23
If you switch teams, though, some don't whatever, but it
42:26
just, I think it goes hand in hand.
42:27
And it was always funny too, because it's like once the
42:30
playoffs start, obviously you go into playoff shares, you're
42:33
going as well. How much money is actually
42:35
really going into the pocket? I know you travel with both
42:38
accountants and but I know it's ticket sales, but then it's like
42:41
OK, concessions and all the other stuff.
42:43
And what goes with that and the ticket prices from the stuff
42:47
that you don't sell because then what do they go?
42:50
It's it's all interesting, but you're 100% right because what
42:54
are they doing is putting names in seats and they can pay this
42:58
money now because of all these extra things that they did.
43:01
And you see why other teams aren't making a bunch of money
43:04
even though they have a buttload of money is because they don't
43:07
have any other team they want to watch so that you don't want to
43:10
watch them. What then?
43:11
Then what's it matter? Like you're not going to get in
43:13
anyways. It was what that is probably 10
43:16
years ago when the Marlins were getting in trouble.
43:18
Then they signed Jose Reyes and Burley in the same year and they
43:21
thought they were going to win. You know, well, obviously that
43:24
didn't, you know, it's owning a baseball team is being part of a
43:28
big exclusive club. And, and I think for some, it's
43:33
just to be in the club and that's good enough.
43:36
And I, I, you know, I don't feel like when I watch some
43:40
franchises that they put themselves in a position to win
43:44
and, and to succeed both on and off the field.
43:47
Because, you know, a team like the Padres maybe hasn't won a
43:50
World Series. But now still, in terms of what
43:54
they do to be competitive every year and put people in the park,
43:57
they're, they're right in the, they're in the elite.
43:59
They're in the top three or four in baseball now.
44:02
I, I want to say something, not fish.
44:05
Jabba, you brought up accountants and where the money
44:08
is going. That reminds me of somebody that
44:10
played for the Dodgers, somebody that had five or six accountants
44:15
and didn't know where 20 something $1,000,000 was going.
44:18
And Jabba was one of very few people that came out and said,
44:23
well, we don't know what he did, so we don't know what he did.
44:26
We can't blame him for it. I'm going to tell you, John,
44:33
he's guilty. That's all I'm going to say.
44:35
Baseball. Was not by who?
44:37
By whose standards? Who's he guilty at?
44:38
Yours. Everybody's standard that's been
44:41
on this show, ex baseball players, but you, you're the
44:45
only one that thinks that he knew nothing about this and he
44:49
should be absolutely let go and let it flow.
44:53
You're the only one, the only one that's been on this show
44:56
that has come out and said that he knew nothing about it.
44:58
Hey, if you're standing by yourself, even if you're
45:00
standing. Doesn't matter.
45:04
Interesting. Well, maybe we'll find out more
45:06
about that case next. Time.
45:07
I doubt it. No, you won't.
45:09
I doubt it. John was going to be hired as
45:13
the guy to cover all of it up. I doubt it.
45:15
Anyways, Charlie, we love you man, and we'd love for you to
45:19
come on whenever you want. If you want to stay on, we have
45:22
to interview Quinton Jammer. You can stay in the back.
45:24
If we have other segments, you can come and join us after that.
45:27
But you're more than welcome to. But we are going to have a very
45:30
special guest, first time on our show, Quinton Jammer, who's
45:32
going to be joining us. But we do have my deuce of the
45:35
day. The deuce of the day.
45:38
You log, not a log. I don't have a log but.
45:49
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, I really don't know what's going
45:52
on in Clipperville. It really makes no sense.
45:55
And this story seems to be just absolutely ridiculous as Chris
46:01
Paul went on social media 5 minutes ago, well before before
46:06
the game where I really before shoot around and said just found
46:10
out I'm being sent home. And what's so interesting about
46:14
this story is Chris Paul wasn't told at any point before the
46:20
before the game or really heading to the really heading to
46:24
the basketball, the Clipper, you know, the Staples Center,
46:27
wherever the hell he was, he was he he was Lawrence Frank reached
46:32
out to him and said something very interesting and said like,
46:35
listen, we're going, we're going to let you go.
46:37
We're going to do whatever we can to give you an opportunity
46:41
for your next step of your career.
46:43
So we're going to do whatever we can to help you with your next
46:45
step. And then Lawrence Frank went out
46:48
on social media and said this about Chris Paul.
46:52
He said Chris is a legendary Clipper who has had a historic
46:57
career. I want to make one thing very
47:00
clear. No one is blaming Chris for our
47:04
underperformance. I accept responsibility for the
47:08
record we have right now. No one is blaming Chris for our
47:12
underperformance. I accept.
47:15
And then he says there are a lot of reasons why we have
47:19
struggled. We're grateful for the impact
47:23
Chris has made on the franchise. You know, and now there's
47:27
stories coming out that him and Tyronn Lue, we're not getting
47:29
along. And maybe one of the reasons why
47:32
is because Tyronn Lue was his back out, but backup point guard
47:36
over there in Charlotte. I don't know what the story is,
47:39
but you can see that Tyronn Lue and Chris Paul did not like each
47:43
other. There was back and forth banter
47:45
early this season about how this is going to work.
47:48
He wanted to come back to Clipperville because that was
47:50
where he loved his time playing basketball.
47:53
He said that his best time of his basketball career was
47:57
playing for Lob City and Doc Rivers.
47:59
We know Lawrence Frank was a part of the, I think he was the
48:03
assistant, one of the assistant coaches over there under Doc
48:06
Rivers, if I'm not mistaken. And now he's the the president
48:09
of basketball operations over there with the Clippers.
48:12
I don't get this. I think that it just shows
48:14
Lawrence Frank doesn't know what he's doing and that Tyronn Lue
48:18
seems to have all the power in the world to push out a Hall of
48:22
Famer, one of the great point guards we've seen in the last 15
48:25
years of the NBA. Everybody keeps talking and
48:27
comparing point guards and why I believe Chris Paul is in a top
48:30
five point guard of all time. This guy is definitely a top
48:34
five point guard of all time defensively and offensively.
48:37
Yes, he's never won a title. Yes, he's never taken a team.
48:41
Well, he's been to 1 Finals. Actually.
48:42
He did it with Phoenix, but nobody remembers that.
48:45
But he really, to me, he had many, many chances to be a part
48:50
of good organizations, one of them the Lakers.
48:52
But David Stern decided to step in and make sure that didn't
48:56
happen. He probably wins three titles
48:59
over there with the with the Lakers.
49:01
If he did get traded over there, he just has had bad luck and
49:04
couldn't stay healthy on his playoff runs.
49:07
I do believe this guy is one of the more underachieving players
49:12
we've ever seen in NBA history, but absolutely one of the
49:15
greatest point guards I've ever seen.
49:16
And this is a shameful thing the Clippers did to one of their
49:19
biggest superstars. I think this is wrong.
49:21
I think Tyronn Lue should be fired because the reason why
49:24
they're not winning is because of the coaching.
49:26
He doesn't know what he's doing. His rotation is putrid,
49:29
terrible, disgusting, and he doesn't have enough talent
49:32
there. He's got a bunch of washed up
49:34
players really that are bullhogs.
49:36
That's about it. Anyways, it was a wonderful
49:39
show. I I will say that the content
49:40
was great. By the way, thank you to Charlie
49:42
Slows for joining us. He was sensational.
49:44
We really appreciate him. He gave us some great takes and
49:48
baseball is nothing without Charlie Slows and the jobster.
49:52
And we could add Nick Goody on that one.
49:54
But Nicky is coaching some young baseball.
49:58
But we'll have Nick Goody on next week.
50:00
So thank you to all the fans on all the social medias by guys
50:04
that reached out to me during the show wondering what happened
50:06
to quitting Jammer. You guys know now.
50:08
So I apologize to the fans if I upsetted them on not getting the
50:13
interview out again. We'll get Quentin Jammer on the
50:17
show. I'll get a chance to have a
50:18
conversation with him and hopefully clean up whatever
50:22
happened in in any kind of way. That's why when you get a guest
50:26
on the show, he's supposed to have a conversation on what he
50:30
wants to talk about if if he's going to if he doesn't like the
50:34
offset stuff that we, you know, we usually do on this show.
50:37
That's what I would say on that. And hopefully he's not in his
50:40
car the next time he comes on a show.
50:42
I hate that. But anyways, again, thank you to
50:45
all the Spotify Apple fans, the YouTube fans, the TikTok fans,
50:51
the Twitter fans, the X fans, all the fans on all our show
50:55
Instagram, all the fans following us, keep following us
50:59
on, keep downloading us and keep enjoying the content that we put
51:03
out. I again, I have a story up there
51:05
about New York radio and I think people should check it out.
51:09
It is a great, it's a great read all right, and if you like New
51:13
York sports and you're wondering why New York sports sucks so
51:16
much, maybe you should read that anyways.
51:21
I, I have to laugh because I, I enjoy the show and I, I think
51:24
our show is one of the best in in the country.
51:27
And I think if nobody is tuned into it or had a chance to tune
51:31
into it, it doesn't know what we do on this show.
51:33
Well, now you know, and you know that we, we, we could be
51:37
outlandishly crazy and funny at the same time, but we know our
51:41
stuff. We know our sports and we have a
51:42
lot of fun doing it. So we appreciate all the fans
51:45
that stand by us and listen to us and watch us and tune into us
51:49
every single week. Yeah.
51:51
What do we have on? Who do we have on next week?
51:53
So Nathan was able to get one of Connor Harris.
51:56
He's a player for the Savannah Bananas.
51:57
He'll be joining us Monday at at 8:45.
52:00
I'm going to try to get our friend Adam Vyrant, the coach as
52:02
well. I'm going to see if he'll join.
52:03
He'll come well if if his players coming on.
52:05
So he'll be on Monday and then on Wednesday.
52:07
Matt Gage, he pitched this season.
52:09
He's a relief pitcher, played for the Giants and the Tigers
52:11
this season. He'll be joining us on Wednesday
52:13
at 9:00. That'll be fun.
52:15
A little gagey. Well, it's not Gage, you know,
52:18
just engage or whatever. He's a football player.
52:21
I know, I know. Anyways, yeah, it's been a great
52:25
one. Again, fans, if you missed any
52:27
of the show, go check it out. Go check it out on Job on the
52:30
Mouth, Spotify and Apple, YouTube.
52:33
We'll have clips. You know, by the way, Jared is
52:36
one more week with us, right? Jared?
52:38
I think it's one more week with us.
52:40
Yeah, I believe that's right. Yeah, and and and Jared, I don't
52:43
know, Jared, you could come on whenever you want.
52:45
So it's not one more week if you want to join us whenever you
52:47
want to join us, you could be a stay there.
52:49
Two more. I'm sorry, two more weeks like
52:52
a. That one over like a Fardon
52:53
church. As it always does.
52:55
Anyways, again, we appreciate you guys.
52:57
We love you. Stay tuned on Friday.
53:01
We've got another show, Speedy. Friday.
53:04
Friday we have I'm sorry today. Oh, tomorrow.
53:07
I'm sorry. Thursday.
53:08
Game on with Josh Silverberg and probably his father at 6:00 PM
53:12
in the Worldwide Sports Radio. Can I give him, what is his
53:14
father's name? Kahlson Nelson.
53:16
Nellie Nell. We love Nelson.
53:19
He's a Green Bay Packer fan too, and a Boston Brewer fan.
53:21
How does that match anyways? Nelson.
53:23
With a Mets fan mixed in there, it doesn't.
53:25
Make any sense? It's not a fan.
53:26
A Knick fan. Anyways, thank you.
53:28
We'll talk to you next week. Good night, it's the worldwide
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