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55KRC Friday Show - Tech Friday, Congressman Davidson, Alex T, Brother Andre Ewing · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five O five.
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  Speaker 2: A fifty by KRC The Talk Days and Happy Friday, say, well.
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  Speaker 1: It was a vacation.
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  Speaker 2: There it is. You know it's Friday when they get
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  Speaker 2: the woohoo from Executiveroducer Joe's tracker got Joe, thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much. Got your Christmas shopping done? Joe. You've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Christmas shopping to do. Almost done. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Got finished mine yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Happy Friday. I love my Fridays and a freelom
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  Speaker 2: and a Friday mood. I'm sort of already feeling in
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  Speaker 2: a holiday mood. Wednesdays in the last day of the
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  Speaker 2: year again, I'm looking forward to having Rob Rider in
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  Speaker 2: the studio with his guitar. We'll be singing some Christmas tunes.
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  Speaker 2: Release hee will you don't want me to send Christmas
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  Speaker 2: tunes and celebrate the holiday spirit. Get that going and
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  Speaker 2: as we move on and enjoy Christmas time. I hope
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  Speaker 2: you will enjoy Christmas time anyway. I hope you'll enjoy today.
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  Speaker 2: Two In the fifty five Carssey Morning Show, it is Friday,
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  Speaker 2: which means we get tech Friday. Dave Hatter from Interest
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  Speaker 2: It we're gonna be talking about the one gadget that
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  Speaker 2: can give China backdoor into the United States power grid.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good, one gadget AI toys for kids, they talk
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  Speaker 2: about sex and issue Chinese Communist Party talking points. I think,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it last week he said don't get your kids
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  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence toys. Here's another reason why. And finally, topic
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  Speaker 2: number three, Webster's Word of the Year slop a solop slop.
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  Speaker 2: You might have your own idea about what that is,
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  Speaker 2: but what is it and what does it mean? Obviously
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  Speaker 2: it relates to techt least I presume so, given that
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  Speaker 2: it is a subject of Tech Friday with Dave Hatter
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  Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson coming up at seven oh five, we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about health. Epstein files around the list. I know
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats released a whole bunch of photographs the other day,
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  Speaker 2: and after reviewing what was reported on those photographs, it's
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  Speaker 2: like nothing to see here? Is this a big nothing burger?
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  Speaker 2: I keep going back to the fact that since nobody
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  Speaker 2: really released anything that was that implicated anybody so far,
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  Speaker 2: somebody on one political side of the political ledger or
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  Speaker 2: the other, if they had goods on the opposite side.
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  Speaker 2: Considering these things have been floating around behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: for a while. I would imagine you and I would
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  Speaker 2: have seen them by now, but what do I know. Anyhow,
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  Speaker 2: that'll be a topic with Warren Davidson. Maybe he'll have
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  Speaker 2: a information about that specific point plus inflation rates. They
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  Speaker 2: came in lower than expected. It was like two point
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  Speaker 2: eight percent, not as low as I think most people
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  Speaker 2: would like him, but lower than what was really anticipated,
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  Speaker 2: which was in the low three point something other. So
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  Speaker 2: that will be a topic with Congressman Davidson. Alex Trout
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  Speaker 2: to Filo ahead of the Ohio Republican Party, he'll do
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  Speaker 2: a year in review and what he's looking looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to in twenty twenty six. And I'm sure the election
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  Speaker 2: will come up on that conversation, brother Dre Andre Ewing
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  Speaker 2: course Breakers three hundred. It's going to be in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Andre is going to go on a rant. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: he's good at that. I love seeing what he has
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  Speaker 2: to say on Facebook. Outspoken, absolutely kind of like Signal
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine, who has been outed. Not that she necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: you know, cared one way or another. But article recently
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  Speaker 2: in The Enquiry by Scott Wortman and Camera Knight about
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  Speaker 2: signal ninety nine, and most of the people are rallying
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  Speaker 2: in support of her and what her organization does because
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  Speaker 2: that Facebook website, now I'll always recommended, because she's got
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  Speaker 2: the inside information and backs up what she says with
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  Speaker 2: documents and evidence, and that's what's got so many people irked.
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  Speaker 2: And she made a remarkable post about the article and
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  Speaker 2: the reactions. Of course, there are a bunch of trolls
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  Speaker 2: out there that were going after her, but going after
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  Speaker 2: her only because she stirs the pot. She's you know,
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  Speaker 2: pro police or what about nothing about her post, nothing
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  Speaker 2: to attack her because of her lack of credibility or
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  Speaker 2: lack of legitimate information. So apparently that whole Facebook page
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  Speaker 2: is a collective of north of thirty individuals, all embedded
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  Speaker 2: in various areas of government law enforcement. She says, they're everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: They provide her information. It's not often reported because we
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  Speaker 2: have such a paucity of local reporting going on, and
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  Speaker 2: they're reporting locally. I'm sure you agree tends to be
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  Speaker 2: a bit biased. So she's like, read the comments section,
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  Speaker 2: see how well this went over. And also I guess
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  Speaker 2: she did an artificial intelligence run on signal ninety nine,
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  Speaker 2: and what AI determined that page and the information was
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  Speaker 2: all about, and it came across generally that she is
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  Speaker 2: noted to be a reliable person providing providing sound, fact
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  Speaker 2: based information, even free of bias. It is looking at
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  Speaker 2: all the comments and all the material that have been
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  Speaker 2: posted came out in favor of her and the work
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  Speaker 2: that she's doing, and I know it's appreciated by a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people and considered by many a primary news
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  Speaker 2: source we just got, according to the article from Wartman,
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  Speaker 2: that's got journalism experts pissed off. I'm not kidding you,
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  Speaker 2: journalism expert. You know, talking heads from University isn't a
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  Speaker 2: like primarily because it comes across as anonymous. But now
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  Speaker 2: that we know who she is, and she wants to
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  Speaker 2: keep the other people anonymous because they give her sound
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  Speaker 2: information from the inside, of course, I understand that motivation.
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  Speaker 2: That's do do regular journalists you ever seen talk about
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  Speaker 2: anonymous sources, Joe, Do regular journalists ever do that? Anonymous
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  Speaker 2: source agreeing to speak on a condition of anonymity. That's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what she's doing. So journalism experts stick it. That's
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  Speaker 2: my conclusion. Anyway, Yesterday I was confused. I admitted to
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  Speaker 2: my confusion and not having quite a full understanding about
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  Speaker 2: the seventeen hundred and seventy six dollars Warrior Divident that
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump promised the other day during his speech. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any objection to it, because I think our
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  Speaker 2: service men and women are underpaid generally speaking. But I
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  Speaker 2: was wondering about the source of funding, talking about Congress's
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  Speaker 2: power of the purse, and how is it that he's
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  Speaker 2: able to just say out loud, I'm going to give
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  Speaker 2: a check to every remember of the American military. It
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  Speaker 2: was in the Big Beautiful Bill, and I either I
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  Speaker 2: hadn't read it before or I didn't know it. Either way,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't remember it. Yesterday One Big Beautiful Bill Act
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  Speaker 2: appropriated two point nine billion dollars to the Pentagon to
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  Speaker 2: supplement what they call BAH benefits, their basic allowance for housing.
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  Speaker 2: Those are non taxable benefits that are I guess fall
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  Speaker 2: within the spending So it is from within that the
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  Speaker 2: money apparently comes from the tariffs that have been collected.
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  Speaker 2: But the at least the bill that was passed into
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  Speaker 2: law does provide the vehicle for Donald Trump to provide
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  Speaker 2: this seventeen hundred seventy six dollars Warrior divdend to American
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  Speaker 2: service members, most all of whom are going to get it.
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  Speaker 2: General officers are the ones that are not eligible for
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  Speaker 2: the checks, but active duty service members, most commissioned officers,
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  Speaker 2: and even reserve component service members some of them anyway,
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  Speaker 2: as long as they were on active duty orders for
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  Speaker 2: thirty one days or longer as of November thirtieth of
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  Speaker 2: this year. So there's the category of folks most all
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  Speaker 2: the military one point four five four million service members total.
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  Speaker 2: So just clearing the air on that one, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: experiencing a bit of shodding for it and experiencing a
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  Speaker 2: bit of renewed faith in the justice system. Yesterday at
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Felm Milwaukee County, Judge Hannah Dugan guilty of obstructing
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  Speaker 2: federal immigration agents when they were attempting to serve a
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  Speaker 2: warrant in a courthouse. You remember her ice agents. We're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get Eduardo Flores Ruiz was in her courtroom.
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  Speaker 2: They were trying to serve him a warrant. They were
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  Speaker 2: waiting right outside the courtroom. This is the judge that
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  Speaker 2: helped this Flores Rui's guy and his attorney get out
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  Speaker 2: of her courtroom through a back door. Happened in April eighteenth.
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  Speaker 2: That much time has gone by after she learned the
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  Speaker 2: Ice agents were there, so she got him out of
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  Speaker 2: the building. So they found her guilty on that. The
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  Speaker 2: other charge that she was charged with, they found her.
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  Speaker 2: Jurors reach a guilty verdict after six hours. Acquitted on
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  Speaker 2: a misdemeanor count of concealing an individual to prevent arrest,
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  Speaker 2: but the primary account found guilty. Her defense team, in
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  Speaker 2: a statement had this to say, well, we're disappointed today's outcome.
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  Speaker 2: The failure of the prosecution to secure convictions on both
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  Speaker 2: counts demonstrates the opportunity we have to clear a judge
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  Speaker 2: doing your name, and so she didn't show that she
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  Speaker 2: did nothing wrong in this matter. Continuing in that statement,
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  Speaker 2: we have planned for this potential outcome, and our defensive
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  Speaker 2: judge is just beginning. This trial required considerable resources to
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  Speaker 2: prepare for the to prepare for I love this point,
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  Speaker 2: and public support for Judge Dugan's defense fund is critical
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  Speaker 2: as we prepare for the next phase of the defense,
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  Speaker 2: which is of course appealing the guilty verdict. I love
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  Speaker 2: how the lawyer there her defense team looking out for
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  Speaker 2: their own interests, like we're going to need to get paid. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you want us to pursue an appeal on this one,
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  Speaker 2: you better pony up some money to the defense fund,
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  Speaker 2: or we're going to drop her as a client. That's
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  Speaker 2: how I read that. Anyhow, so justice served federal jury
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  Speaker 2: of her peers, found her guilty and sent a clear
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  Speaker 2: message to the American people to respect law and order.
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  Speaker 2: According to the Deputy Attorney chadge Blanche, speaking with the News,
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  Speaker 2: nobody is above the law. This department will not tolerate obstruction,
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  Speaker 2: will enforce federal immigration law, and we'll hold criminals to account,
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  Speaker 2: even those who wear robes along with the Thanks to
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  Speaker 2: the men and women who keep us safe generally, and
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  Speaker 2: I note that we will always protect you. That from
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  Speaker 2: the US Attorney's Office in a general comment to the
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  Speaker 2: ICE agents and other members of law enforcement. So little
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  Speaker 2: victory there in the name of justice and of course
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  Speaker 2: the rule of law. Five point fifteen coming up with
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  Speaker 2: a five sixteen five one, three, seven, four nine fifty
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  Speaker 2: five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three talk
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  Speaker 2: time five fifty on AT and T phone, Trump moving
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  Speaker 2: to reduce the classification of weed. We've got the health
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  Speaker 2: officials finally addressing trans related procedures for children, which shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: happen anyway. Maybe it won't happen anymore after yesterday's activity.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that a whole lot more coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty five KRC right now, thirty degrees at the five
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  Speaker 1: I'm Donald J. Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Down gotta be Friday five one three, eight hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eight two three talk. I've cares dot com uh courty
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  Speaker 2: announcement yesterday Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior they're taking
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  Speaker 2: steps to cut down on breast removal and other sex
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  Speaker 2: rejecting procedures for children, stating sex rejecting procedures for children
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  Speaker 2: and adolescents are neither safe nor effective as a treatment
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  Speaker 2: modality for gender dys for you, gender incongruence or related
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  Speaker 2: disorders and miners there note the word miners. This is
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  Speaker 2: who we're talking about here, and therefore fail to be
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  Speaker 2: professional recognized standards of healthcare procedures that will not be
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  Speaker 2: paid for anymore and are no longer considered a standard
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  Speaker 2: of care for young people people who aren't adults. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have insufficient life experience to handle the decision making
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  Speaker 2: that goes along with this vaginoplasties i e. Surgeries creating
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote vaginas, because it's not really on mails and
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  Speaker 2: puberty blockers. Corne Kennedy in the press conference, the declaration
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  Speaker 2: is a clear directive to providers, that's the doctors, that's
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  Speaker 2: the hospitals, to follow the science and the overwhelming body
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  Speaker 2: of evans that these procedures hurt not help children. Department
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  Speaker 2: of healthing Human Services analysis he pointed to regarding these
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  Speaker 2: pre treatments for so called gender dysphoria, concluded that many
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  Speaker 2: of them carry the risk of significant harms like infertility,
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  Speaker 2: loss of bone density, and they recommended what was the
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  Speaker 2: traditional method of dealing with gendertis foria, and of course
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  Speaker 2: that's psychotherapy as an alternative CMMs or CMS as it's called.
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  Speaker 2: They always like to leave the other mut of their
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  Speaker 2: centers for Medicaid, Medicare and Medicaid services going to be
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  Speaker 2: issuing new proposal proposed rules one will bar hospitals that
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  Speaker 2: participate in Medicare and Medicaid from performing the procedures. Oh, look,
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  Speaker 2: the strings that are attached to government money. Sometimes they
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  Speaker 2: can be used to our disadvantage and other times they
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  Speaker 2: can be used to the advantage of now of the
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  Speaker 2: general welfare of young children who are being forced in
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  Speaker 2: many cases to go through gender mutilation procedures. Huh, if
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  Speaker 2: you're taking the money, you can't do it anymore. There
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  Speaker 2: another would prohibit federal money from funding them. Amendment OZ.
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  Speaker 2: Administrator for the division, were not going to let the
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  Speaker 2: taxpayer money go to hurt these children. Now, you want
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  Speaker 2: to see when the money involved is why maybe some
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  Speaker 2: of these highly respected hospitals and institutions went down this
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  Speaker 2: road and got gender clinics up and running according to
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  Speaker 2: Amendment OZ. He cited a twenty twenty two paper that
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  Speaker 2: found that a vaginoplasty will run about sixty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: and a procedure to construct a quote unquote penis because
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  Speaker 2: it's not really one, it's just something that kind of
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  Speaker 2: remotely looks like one. After the procedure. You know how
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  Speaker 2: much sat ryns Joe take a guess that tree fitty wrong.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and forty eight thousand, five hundred and forty
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  Speaker 2: dollars tax payer dollars we're paying for that. Also, moving
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  Speaker 2: to reverse the prior administration Biden attempt to have GENDERDISPIA
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  Speaker 2: added to the definition of disability in federal law. A
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  Speaker 2: disability finding, of course, would allow you to get on
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  Speaker 2: Social Security Social Security disability payments at even a younger age.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Brian Christine, Health and Human Services officials said in
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  Speaker 2: a letter to families and providers, the evidence quote demonstrates
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  Speaker 2: an unfavorable risk benefit profile for chemical and surgical interventions
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  Speaker 2: in children and adolescents with generatives. For eh FDA, it's
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  Speaker 2: not a warning letter to manufacturers of chest binders. Another what
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  Speaker 2: those devices that cover up the breast of females who
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  Speaker 2: do not identify do not identify as female, that want
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  Speaker 2: to be men? They said. The marketing of the chess
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  Speaker 2: binders to children as a generatives FIA treatment is a
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  Speaker 2: regulatory violation and could lead to repercussions if not corrected. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: there's another argument on the other side and woe cited
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  Speaker 2: in the article from I Think It was Epic Times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Zachary Stebers's article on this. Doctor Jamila Parrott, a president
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  Speaker 2: and CEO of something called Physicians for Reproductive Health. Today's
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  Speaker 2: proposed rules are a deliberate and targeted attack on transgender youth,
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  Speaker 2: their families, and the clinicians committed to providing patients the
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  Speaker 2: care they need. No, it's not an attack on transgender youth.
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  Speaker 2: It's an effort to protect them. And notably, listen to
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  Speaker 2: the words of de transitioner Chloe Cole, who was there
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  Speaker 2: for these announcements. She claims to be a victim in
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  Speaker 2: the sense that doctors essentially forced her into this gender transition.
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  Speaker 2: She's twenty one now. She went through the process of
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  Speaker 2: so called medical transition from male to female between the
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  Speaker 2: ages of twelve and sixteen. Puberty blockers, testosterone injections, double
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  Speaker 2: mass sectity masectomy rather caused her irreversible and permanently affect
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  Speaker 2: her irreversible problems and permanently affected her health. She said,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as the gender was in the picture, none
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  Speaker 2: of my doctors are physio A psychologist asked the real
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  Speaker 2: questions they should have quote. The entire focus was on
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  Speaker 2: my feelings and what I wanted rather than what I needed.
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  Speaker 2: In that moment, she described herself as a young, yet
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  Speaker 2: tomboyish little girl. She said her doctors never shared the risks,
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  Speaker 2: only touted the quote unquote benefits for stopping female puberty
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  Speaker 2: using testosterone to promote the growth of body, hair, musculature,
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  Speaker 2: and different fat distribution. Quote. There was nothing they could
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  Speaker 2: say to me that would make me understand the gravity
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  Speaker 2: of what I was about to go through because I
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  Speaker 2: was still growing up. I had very little experience in
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  Speaker 2: the world, and I simply would not be mature enough
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  Speaker 2: to be equipped to undergo such a life changing procedure
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  Speaker 2: in every way. Well, yeah, and it goes on other
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  Speaker 2: reasons why this was so terrible. Her parents had no
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  Speaker 2: information whatsoever to come to some legitimate conclusion. The doctor's
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  Speaker 2: just pushed her along that path. She got the hormone
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  Speaker 2: therapy and she had a mass sectomy. She will never
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  Speaker 2: be able to breastfeed, and her status on whether she
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  Speaker 2: can even reproduce is now unknown thanks to the testosterone
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  Speaker 2: the day for well, I would say forced her to date.
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  Speaker 2: Now she grew up and then she's like, I regret
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  Speaker 2: everything that was done to me. As an adult, with
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  Speaker 2: more information, she developed her understanding having gone through the
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  Speaker 2: procedures and the available information that's out in the world
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  Speaker 2: on this even happening has expanded to the point where
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  Speaker 2: even the European Unions saying no to this kind of crap.
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  Speaker 2: I think most of them anyway, So good five twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven a lease you and I aren't paying for it.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty five kr seed talk stations, stick around local stories,
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  Speaker 2: uh p on calls possible, and then we got to
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  Speaker 2: stack as stupid after the next segment. Stick around fifty
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  Speaker 2: five because right now if you five KRCD talk station
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  Speaker 2: five thirty one, Happy Friday, went hour from now Tech
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  Speaker 2: Friday with Dave Patter, which is interesting. I've got a
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  Speaker 2: couple of tech articles, crazy tech articles in the local stories.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody put in all points bullet now for Tom. He's
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  Speaker 2: not on the line right now. Not that we need
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  Speaker 2: to have Tom on the phone, and your calls are welcome.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't own the segment, just kind of getting used
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  Speaker 2: to it. So over to Blue Ash. Four year investigation
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  Speaker 2: this is Gary stuff led to the arrest of a
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  Speaker 2: Blue Ash man who admitted to filming underage girls by
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  Speaker 2: place cameras in their bedroom. These are federal court documents
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  Speaker 2: that reveal this. David mits Nepez close enough. He's in
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  Speaker 2: jail thirty two years old in the Butler County Jail
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  Speaker 2: for child porn and attempted sexual exploitation. FID, they would say,
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  Speaker 2: he entered the victim's home ten times over the course
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  Speaker 2: of four years, installing installing six small cameras in this
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  Speaker 2: teenage girl's bedroom. Parenthetically, he also kept girl the girl's
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  Speaker 2: bras and underwear, hiding them in his closet. First court
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  Speaker 2: appearance yesterday, Federal Prosecutor Kyle Hally said this guy knew
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  Speaker 2: the victims through religious ties. No great they also live
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  Speaker 2: in the same neighborhood. Heally argued that the suspects should
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  Speaker 2: not receive bond due to the amount of trauma he created. Yes, indeed,
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  Speaker 2: so much so that one of the girls involved canceled
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  Speaker 2: or trip back home out of fear that miss miss
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  Speaker 2: Nez mitt nes Fez would get out of jail or
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  Speaker 2: be released. This was years of breaking into the residence,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: he pointed out to the court. In addition to filming
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the teens, He says, the thirty two year old already
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: admitted to the detective that he bought child porn of
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: victims horrifically less than five years old, including video of
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  Speaker 2: toddlers being sexually abused, baptismal or religious ceremonies involving children
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: being stripped naked, and kids underten getting undressed in the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: locker room. Joe, I think you need to queue up
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: an award ferious. The biggest douche of the universe, in
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: all the galaxies, there's no bigger douche than you. You've
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: reached the top, the pinnacle of douchet. Oh yeah, good
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: goingdue your dreams have come true. Yeah. Fortunately, US Magistrate
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Judge Karen Likovitz denied him bond giving the overwhelming way
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: of the evidence. In fact, he admitted to having child
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: porn and the following facts which make it even worse.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: This is why I was so incensed by this. The
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: first camera they found September of twenty twenty one, described
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: as a foul camera. Oh look, Dave Hatter is quoted
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: by the Fox nineteen reporting they interviewed about this. These
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: things are available online. Go to Amazon. If you got
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: twenty bucks, you can get one. Yes, no SD card,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: no traceable digital evidence in this. It was it hooked
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: up to Wi Fi, which means that he could get
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the information streaming out of the camera to whatever device
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: he was listening to or hooked up to it remote
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: IP location. So they had no they got the law
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: enforcement of all no we're in no traceable evidence, the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: blue Ash detective is nothing really we can do. One
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: year later, in June, another camera was found in the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: same bedroom fifteen year old daughter. At that point, she
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: was about to get a undressed. She knows the camera
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: in the exact same spot. Camera taking to the police department.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Again no SD card and the detective was unable to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: retrieve data. So didn't I guess where it was going.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: More cameras found in the home between twenty twenty two
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and twenty twenty three. Now you're living in that home,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: what would your reaction be to finding these these strategically
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: placed hidden cameras? Anyway, After reviewing surveillance footage, cross referencing
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: people who had access to the house, mitz Nefez our
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Award winner for the Morning fit the suspects physical description
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and apparently had the code to the home. And here's
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: where the red flags pop up. He apparently was trusted
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: by the family. He had access to their home to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: bring in the mail while they were out of town,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: even helped set up their Internet account. So mind your
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: p's and q's with who you think you can trust.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And isn't this a huge bubble burst of trust, but wow.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Another local story man courses cincinn eighteen into placing one
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of these cameras. Jocko Rossello, He'll share the award course
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to sixteen year old girl online to send him ex
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: sexually explicit videos and made her install a wireless camera
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: in the bedroom of her home, threatened the girl in
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: her family. According to court documents, He told her the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: threats would stop if she sent more explicit content, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: even forced her to break up with her boyfriend. All
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that happened while Rosello, thirties in his thirties, who lived
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: with his mom in Sycamore Township, was awaiting trial in Kentucky,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: where he had been accused of posting online ads seeking
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: minors for sex. Sentence the sixteenth of this month in
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: federal court to twelve years in prison. His communications with
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the girl took place over social media that Kick messaging
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: app and email, according to court documents, have been in
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a roll of late charging twenty twenty one, after investigators
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: contacted him about to multi connect him rather than to
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: multiple Kick accounts, one he called himself Hotter when Smaller
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that was his name, transmitted files to picking child sexual abuse.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He had no kid investigators search and apartment where he
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: lived with his mom again found electronic devices containing hundreds
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: of images and video of children in varying ages being
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: sexually abused. Great, do you know what your children are
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: doing online? Five point thirty six fifty five KRC the
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  Speaker 2: are stupid as this tradition. Evansville, Indiana, where a man
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  Speaker 2: in there is facing multiple charges after police city was
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: walking around a southeast apartment completely naked. Why are you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: doing that? Let's see if we can find out. Please
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: call it the Village Green Apartments five pm Saturday, last
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: reports of fifty five year old Scott Commins walking around naked.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Witness also called saying that when he was returning his
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: nephew's dog to his apartment, who was found outside comings
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen. Witness said he'd never met Cummins. Police
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: got there, they order him to come out of the apartment,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: but he refused. Officers entered the apartment and after a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a struggle, took him into custody. One officer
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: injured while taking him to the police car. That after
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the officer fell while Cummings was refusing to cooperate. Another
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  Speaker 2: witness told police they saw Cummins inside of an suv
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that did not belong to him. Please say there were
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: children playing in the area when he was walking around naked.
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  Speaker 2: Court of the officers Cummins also admitted to being ready.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Here's the answer. Joe high on meth amphetamine taken to
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the Vanderberg County Jail, charge with resisting law enforcement causing
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: bodily injury, residential entry, unauthor his entry of a motor vehicle,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: public in decency, criminal mischief, disorderly conduct, and public intoxication
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: by drugs. We go to Lufton, Texas, where a man
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: there has been sentenced to life in prison after law
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: enforcement found him naked in his bathroom with a phone
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: containing child porn during a search war Nice Star Linement.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Fifty one year old Choey Chance Evans charged with six
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: counts of promotion of child porn twenty one counts of
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: possessing child porn cord to the DA's office. Google reported
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: child porn uploads on July first and July second of
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: calendar year twenty one to the National Center for Missing
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and Exploited Children. They do that, you perverts out there.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Investigation investigators determined materials uploaded from an IP address link
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to an account belonging to yes mister Evans. Texas DPS
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: agents later executed the warrant at his home, where he
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: was found again naked in a bathroom holding his cell
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: phone at least razing. I know I was waiting for
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that Joe, at least in one hand, officers stated. DA's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: office stated the cell phone had a website open that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: contained obvious child porn. Further search of Evans's cell phone
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: revealed numerous images of child pornography webs evidence to confirm
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: he had access to child porn on multiple access to
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: child porn on multiple dates or authorities also found that
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Evans used apps and web browsers designed to conceal his
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: online activity, IP address and identity. I'm guessing of EPN.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Initially indicted on twenty twenty two, in September three counts
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of possession of child porn. The officials set of changing
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: leadership of the District Attorney's office prompted a reevaluation of
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the case, leading investigators to determine and additional that additional
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: charges were warranted. Pleaded guilty to all twenty one and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: agreed to a maximum sentence. He will serve one life sentence,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: followed consecutively by two twenty year sentences the whole time.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Joe a life plus forty Joe, do you think he's
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: ever going to get any sleep five forty five? Could
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you five KRC the talk station. Sorry, I'm not going
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to weep a tear for that guy. Don't go away
• 28:59
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  Speaker 1: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 2: By forty nine on a Friday? Happy one to you.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Back to student. Hey local boy Joe Cincinnati man pushed
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a naked woman out of his Bond Hill apartment, got
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: sentenced Tuesday afternoon to ten to fifteen years in prison.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Why are you doing that? We will find out momentarily.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Anthony Howard, he pled guilty to involuntary manslaughter in exchange
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: for which the murder and flooding's assault charges were dismissed.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That happens quite often. So apparently the victim, Shannon Ashcraft,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: sailor found dead outside of his apartment this in twenty
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: twenty three. That's going to say he initially didnied even
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: knowing her, later told her friend that he had sex
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: with her before her death, and then detective said he
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: ultimately admitted to an ongoing section relationship with her. So
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: there's your relationship established court. To the records, he told
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: investigators that he thought this woman had died from a
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: drug overdose and upon thinking that, pushed her body out
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of a window, causing it to fall twenty feet, then
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: dragging it into a grassy area, where it ultimately was discovered.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: The corner though, said she may have eventually died from
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the overdose, but determined that the fall from the window
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: is what caused her death. Amen. Joe Howard got credit
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: for the seven hundred and ninety six days he had
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: spent in jail while awaiting trial. Half naked. Wait a second,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: it's Friday. Well we'll let it pass. Thirty one year
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: old man accused of breaking into multiple Saint Paul apartments
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: while half naked. Okay. Court to the criminal complaint. Incident
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: happened December tenth this year, about six o'clock in the
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: in the Evening apartment complex in Saint Paul. Please called
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: for report of a half naked guy destroying property. Officers
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: we can find out got in touch with the property manager,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: who said she encountered the guy inside a maintenance shop
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: wearing a green high visibility top but nothing from the
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: waist down. She asked him to leave. Man went to
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: another building on the property attempted to force his way
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: in that caused visible damage to the doorframe. He next
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: went to a second building, unsuccessfully trying to enter, then
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: moved on to another building, broke the window and the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: door with his fist crawling inside. They found him sitting
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: inside the building near a heater without pants when he
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: was taken into custody. Identified as William Wesley Wright of
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: still Water. Following his Postmaranda interview, he told officers he'd
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: been working with a snow removal company, was riding in
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: a truck with a co worker when he needed to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: use the restroom. He said he defecated in his pants
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and was then removed from the vehicle by a co worker.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I bet removed from the vehicle. How that one went down,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Joe I told of police he was trying to find
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a place to clean himself up and get warm, being
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: told to leave another After being told to leave another building,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: acknowledged that a reasonable person would have indeed called police
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: for assistance in the city, he did not, and couldn't
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: explain why. Door damage estimated at seventeen hundred and fifty bucks.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: He's charged with first degree damage to property, which is
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a felony, alleging the damage reduced the value of the property.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: My more than one thousand dollars. If convicted, he's facing
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: up the five years in prison and a ten thousand
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: dollars fine or both. WHOA, that's a lot of feces.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: How about just walking away? This is one on steroids. Bradenton,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Florida got a woman accused of killing are you ready
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: both of her ex husbands in two separate shootings on
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the same day. What Manateee County authorities say? Forty eight
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: year old Susan Erica Avalon shot and killed her ex
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: husband Amanatee County on Wednesday afternoon, then another ex husband
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: over in Tampa later in the day, using stolen food
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: from a Panera bread as a trick to get the
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Manatee County man to open his front door. According to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the I got yeah right, Joe, I got a bagel
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: for you, Sheriff's department said. When the victim opened the door,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: she started to she opened fire immediately. Thirty shared surveillance video.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Oh shocking surveillance video actually was found showing her walking
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: into the Panara about a mile and a half from
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the scene. She took food from a delivery pickup shelf
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: without paying for it, then went to the guy's home.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: License plate readers tracked her car all over the place.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Court records show that she and the Mantee County victim
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: had been divorced for eleven years. Yeah, I know, grudge right, Joe,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: grudge much with a long running custody dispute and about
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: four thousand dollars in unpaid child support. She had a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: December deadline to pay two hundred dollars or loser driver's license.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Apparently she was paying him child support and anybody that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: went through a divorce for that to happen. And I'm
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: guessing maybe the court thought she was a bit disturbed
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: on some level. I don't know. Jectives got to the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: her Citrus County home. They said they found her cleaning
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: the mini van with bleach and rags. Nothing to see
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you here. During questioning, when asked to discuss her ex husband,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: she said which one, which led investigators to ask Tampa
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: police to conduct a welfare check at a separate residence
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that night. That's where they found an adult man inside
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the home dead from yes multiple gunshot wounds and damage
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to the rear door, which suggested a forced entry. Tampa
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: police that they believed the shooting related to the Man
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: County homicide investigation, with detectives saying that the shooter and
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: victim were both known to one another. Her live in
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: boyfriend at least it isn't. Third husband told detectives that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: he had recently tracked down the Manitee victim, or that
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: she had recently tracked down the Manitee victim's address. He
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: said she also told him the day before the shooting
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: that she loved him quote in case something happens to
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: her close quote planned event. Maybe best going to say that,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: he told him. When Avalon got home after those shootings,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: she got in the shower while wearing the same gray
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: shirt seen in the surveillance video. Now here's your fun fact.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Previously arrested on a child abuse charge in Virginia, OH
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: for one other child abuse case included Tampa and Pascoe County,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: which were ultimately dropped, and those cases were tied to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: custody disputes with her ex husband's Yeah, the boyfriend dodged
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the bullet. Joe, well, well played, just walk away, Ayma?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: After that choose wisely, I Love you, Paulette five fifty
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• 36:02
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• 36:06
  Speaker 2: imagine that? Sean Hannity, Merry Christmas. This is not a
• 36:09
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• 36:10
  Speaker 1: We can say it.
• 36:10
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• 36:31
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• 36:33
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• 36:35
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• 36:39
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• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Christmas Eve is Wednesday. Well, working two days next week anyway,
• 36:51
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• 36:53
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• 36:55
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• 36:57
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• 36:59
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• 37:02
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• 37:05
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• 37:11
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• 37:25
  Speaker 2: One singular gadget. We'll talk about artificial intelligence. Toys for kids.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Don't buy them, says Dave Hatter. Anyway, talking to your
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: children about sex and uh Chinese Communist Party talking points.
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  Speaker 1: You bought it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: And finally Webster's word of the Year. What is slop?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I think you probably have your own figure. You figure
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: out your own definition for what slop is. Historically, this
• 37:49
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• 37:52
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• 37:54
  Speaker 2: it mean? Congressman Warren Davidson coming up in an hour.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: He'll be talking about healthcare. You're talking about the Epstein files,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and I'll also be talking about inflation coming in lower
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: than expected by a fraction of a percentage point, like
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: point five or zero point six lower than they actually anticipate,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: a good thing. At least it's going down. Plus, the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Senate came up with an omnibus bill. I'm gonna have
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to ask him about that in an effort to resolve
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the funding issues because they didn't do the twelve Appropriations bill,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: which is one of the job functions they have when
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: they're elected. They know ahead of time every year they
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: have to do it, and every year gets kicked the
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: can down the road. Sometimes the government shuts down because
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: they haven't done their work. Oh does that happen rightly? Anyway?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: To put together I believe five over in the Senate
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: anyway that House and half course have to approve them.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Mini bus is what they're calling five appropriations bills packed
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: into one minibus bill which would fund most most which
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: is an important point, to make most of the federal
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: government through fiscal year twenty twenty six. They're saying that
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: if this passes and the House approves the sentence version
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: of this minibus, then the wind will be knocked out
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of the sales of shutting the government down because the
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: vast majority of government will in be funded. This bill
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: five bill package would fund eighty five to ninety percent
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: of the federal government. House, of course, will have to
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: approve the package. Of course President Trump would have to
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: sign on to it. If the House does approve the
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Senate's version, they say that is by no means assured,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: of course, and it would mean only the Departments of Homeland, Security, State,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Foreign Operations, Energy and Water Projects, and Financial Services will
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: be facing a funding deadline of January thirtieth. So can
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: we do without the Department of State, Foreign Operations, Energy
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and Water Projects. Probably, So we'll see what Congressman Davidson
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: has to say about the concept of the minibus along
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: with those other topics. Alex Charancefield, he's going to be
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: joining the program head of the Higher Republican Party looking
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: at the last this is the end of this calendar
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: year and what happened during this year, as well as
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: a look forward to twenty twenty six. Of course, with
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the November elections, we're already talking a lot about that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Head Air Americans for Prosperity. On the other day was
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: some recommendations and support for endorsed candidates by AFP around
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the state of Ohio and various congressional districts. So Fast
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and Furious Novembers coming andre Ewing brother dre in studio.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Love that guy. He's got a great Facebook page. Outspoken,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: he is telling it like he is. Doesn't rep any
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: represent any agency, doesn't represent any police agencies. He's andre
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Ewing involves citizen. He'll have comments on the eight point
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: one million dollar civil rights violation settlements. He'll talk about
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Iris Rowley's sweetheart deal coming in into six hundred and
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: fifty some on thousand dollars in a contract that just
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. What I'm gonna
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: have to ask him directly, what does Iris Roley have
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: on our elected officials? How is it that she wields
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: so much power? It's a great question. I hope he
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: has some kind of answer anyway. Plus maybe talking about
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: a F tabs CARF tabs car troubles. Didn't pay your
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: car payment, you get your car towed, which leads me
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: over to little revelation. I'm sure you probably have heard this.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I know I brought up some points on this going on,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: But since this Tech Friday and after have Purval did
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: get his name written in the margins in the article
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that I'm about to mention some of the facts from
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: your car is in fact spying on you. I know
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: you knew that, but they're so filled with much with
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: so much technology that is really just just just soaking
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: up everything that you are doing in your car, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: they're of course compiling the data and keeping tabs on
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: you with it. Over to BMW, their senior vice president
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: admitted that the company has data from over ten million vehicles.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: That data used to, in his words, see what our
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: customers are doing close quote precise GPS location, the direction
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: you're traveling, of course, vehicle vitals, you know, oil pressure
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. Incident data sensors, knowing when
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: you have been in a bumper or an accident or something.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: They'd soak that up. And then there's this disclosure that
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: they have to provide you. You know, those long legal
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: ease documents that are about, oh, I don't know, one
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pages long and eight point type. That's
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: where all the information is revealed to you and you
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: never bother reading it to know exactly what they're doing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Ford's privacy to closure says cars with connectivity will transmit
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: things like transmit things like vehicle data, driving data, vehicle
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: location audio, visual media analytics, and vehicle analytics. Speed accelerator used.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Are you a florid kind of person or do you
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: engage in like a hyper milling effort to maximize mileage
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and slowly accelerate the pay They're paying attention to that
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: steering use precise latitude and longitude image. Here's an interesting one.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Images from forward facing or interior facing cameras that is
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: being soaked up images. What music you listen to, the
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: apps you use, use through the device services, features that
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you prefer within the vehicle. All that data Ford collects
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and these other automobile companies collect as well. And it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: noted that Ford, among the other manufacturers, still collects your
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: vehicle's location despite your preferences. Why well, if you read
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the small print in that document, to protect and defend
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: our forwards rights or property, including repossessing a vehicle in
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the event of delinquency or to comply with applicable law,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: they want to know where the vehicle is in case
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: you don't make the car payment. AFT tab Ford apparently,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: according to the reporting of this article, was looking into
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: designing technology. I love this for a self repossessing car.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: What do we do is lock you out of the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: vehicle if you fall behind payments. And then in these
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: modern days of self driving cars, the car drives itself
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: back to the automaker, of course, saving save if they
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: implemented this technology, save for the cost of hiring a
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: tow truck or some collection agency which they would have
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: to give a sizeable chunk of the recovery too. Don't
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: have to do that anymore, just drives itself back to Ford.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Hyundai also notably collects your information when you drive a
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: vehicle equipped with Blue Link. And see that's that connectivity
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: comment I hovered around a moment ago. If you are
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: involved in connectivity. When I bought my car, I had
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: an option to hook up to the manufacturer's website. Oh,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: you'll get all the notices, you'll let you know when
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: your oil chain needs to be changed, and they'll also
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: be following you around and collecting up and hoovering up
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: all this data. I'm like, there's no way in hell
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I'm hooking up to that app.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I got a little sticker for my last oil change.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I know exactly when it need an oil change. You
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: need to tell me about that. In fact, I kind
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of pay attention to that independent of whether I get
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: a sticker notify me when I need my next oil change,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I can manage it. Okay, something goes wrong in my car,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: get a little warning light that will pop up right, Yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you get that too. Do you need the manufacturer to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: know that and also to know what music you're listening to,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: to take pictures of you while you're in your car,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: or to film the surrounding areas where your car happens
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: to be. Now, how about no? And they can also
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: sell the data. Third parties love knowing more about you,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and of course that's where the Internet of Things comes in.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: That's where the information from Tech Friday's Dave Hat are
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: always pointing to listen. That app is free, but the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: payment you're making is in the form of giving them
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: all the data that they suck up through the application,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: quite often all the data that's on your phone. That's
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons I don't use apps that require permissions.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: But those apps are free. I'm guessing whether you know
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: it or not, or what slice of the overall expense
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: of the car deals with incorporating this technology into the car.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: But I guarantee you, as you're sitting here right now,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: or as I'm sitting here right now, that you did
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: pay for all this software and all this information soaking app,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: all these information soaking apps that are built into your car,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: and in most cases you don't have a choice, unlike
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: an app you would download off the internet. First off,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: do you really need it? Are you going to download?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: At least you have a choice right there. You can
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: stop it from happening by not downloading it. Go ahead
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: and buy a car and see if it is free
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: of any of this technology. Can you find one out
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: there that is? I'm betting no sticking around for that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Jay's on the phone, Jay, Hold on one second. Hold,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I mentioned something that I don't know. Talk Station six
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: one coming up on six twenty two. Happy, It's Friday.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: David's am I five one three two three thought tech
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Chriti with Dave had to come on the next in
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the next segment. In the meantime, Jays on the phone, Jay,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: thanks thanks for havingumber the break. Welcome back to the program.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey just wanted to take a
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: minute and share with the listeners. John three point sixteen.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: As we get close to Christmas, that God so loved
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the world he sent his one and only Son.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: That whosoever should believe.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: In him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: The emphasis is just on belief.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: It doesn't say baptize, it doesn't say join a church,
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: it doesn't say take communion. And again, if you read Romans, Hebrews,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: all through the Bible, in order for us to get
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: to Heaven, he is the only path, trust only in Him.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: And it's it's unbelievable that it's that simple. But I
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: am convinced that it's that simple, and let's not lose
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: sight of that. That's the reason for Christmas.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Points all well taken. I had I had to have
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: interject I mean to interrupt you, but I have to
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: point out he never did specify that it was pursuing
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: into a specific set of dogmatic or doctrinal principles either
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: did he?
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: No, he did not.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Right, how many have and how many versions of Christianity
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: are there? Like one hundred and thirty or something. You
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: got Protestants and Catholics, you have Evangelicals, you have snake handlers,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: you have Christian Science. I mean that could go on
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: for an hour.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I think I'm right there with you
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: that I think that a lot of denominations or Christian
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: churches have lost their way and they have gone back
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: into what do I need to do? And the focus
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: is I hope I've done enough. You can't do anything.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: We are in such a lost state that we need
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: a savior. Otherwise, what was the point of God sending
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: his son to Diana cross? And all we have to
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: do is believe? And then it's well, how do we
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: believe that? There's another Bible verse that says faith comes
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. The
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: more you learn about any topic in our life, the
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: better we get at it, including spending time in God's
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Word understanding all this.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: But it is so simple.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: The travesty is all the complexity to your point, it
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: gets wrapped up in doctrine to get people confused and
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: get them convinced that I need some other man, some
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: other ritual something. None of that is true. And I
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: think that that is the gift, and that is if
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: we focus on anything to share with our fellow believers,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: that's it.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's an excellent point. I mean again,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I always try to use the Morning Shows a vehicle
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: to talk purely based upon logic, and reason. I try
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: to let my political decisions, my economic analysis, my analysis
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: about any given topics spring from logic and reason, because
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I know that maybe the way I believe conflicts with
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: what someone else believes. But if there are there are
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: facts and information you can provide exclusive of it, or
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: without reliance upon religion. You don't run the risk of
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: alienating someone who would incline, be inclined not to listen
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: to you merely because you believe in a different set
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: of doctrinal or dogmatic prints then the person giving me
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the information. So let's go neutral on religion when talking
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: about politics, and then you can use it in your
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: day to day life. And you can use it, of course,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: to cope with political realities. You know, at least I
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: have God on my side, or I have Jesus to
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: save me, and that's supposed to make life a little
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: bit easier to live in troubled.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Times, exactly right. And the Bible doesn't say that we
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: come out. It doesn't say and they live happily ever after.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: This is a following world that's continuing to fall. So
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: this is the truth that we need to grab onto
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: in the midst of the storm. And I think that
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: this is the time of year when we kind of
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: take a step back and think about that. The second
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: point is you know you do you. I heard a
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: voice that was familiar the other day when you were
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: impersonating the Angel Box girl, and I thought, man, he
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: sounds that just sounds like Grandma and making her Christmas
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: cake that his dad used to do. So as the
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Iris Rawley of the listening audience that represents everybody self
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: appointed consultant, I don't quite get the money from the
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: listening audience like Iris gets from the city. We all
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: want you, Brian. We think it's time for you to
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: step up. Not play your dad doing Grandma, but it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: time for you to fill those shoes, my friend and
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: do Grandma in the next few days.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: We all agree.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to insult my dad's good name
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: or his reputation. I just leave it at that. Yeah,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: he was great at what he was. Truly appreciate it.
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  Speaker 7: Always my pleasure. Brian, happy to be here and we're
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: doing some good out there every Friday.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I've been on a tear for a long long time,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: but even more so of late, dealing with our energy
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: shortage in the situation all driven by the idea of
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: eliminating plant food from our environment. If you get rid
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: of the word CO two and you quit calling in
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: a pollutant, everything becomes a lot easier because we've gotten
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: so good at eliminating genuine pollutants from our energy production.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: So you can use natural gas or coal and scrub it. No,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: we're not allowed to do that. It's CO two that's
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: the problem. So we need, oh, I don't know, a
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: solar array. We need solar panels. But that has created
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: a security problem. So in the name of eliminating plant
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: food from the environment, we've invited the Chinese Communist Party
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: into our house. And affecting our energy grid.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yep. And we have.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, and to a large extent. You know, most of
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: the solar panels are maybe not most, many, if not most,
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: solar panels are not made in the United States. And
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: this is something we've talked about before, Brian in a
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: tertiary with the idea that so much of our society
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: is now using physical things that have digital capabilities, right, software,
• 53:11
  Speaker 7: embedded Internet of things, smart devices, and so much of
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: this stuff comes from on shore, much of it from China.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: And there's been concern for a long time from people
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: like SISA and the FBI, DHS, myself and others warning
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: about the prominence of this stuff. Right it's coming from
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: foreign countries, China in particular. We know their adversarial I mean,
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: you and I just recently have talked about more warnings
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: of Chinese hacking and so forth, and you know, the
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: Chinese Communist Party does not seem to be very friendly
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: with us at this point. So the idea that we're
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: going to fill our electrical grid and other sectors of
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: critical infrastructure with devices made in China, with devices full
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: of software made in China, and we've been doing this
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: for more than ten years, Brian, how many times have
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: we talked about software vuner yea, the Internet of things?
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: Software embedded in these things that have problems don't get updated.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: So now you have this situation whereas we become more
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: and more reliant on solar power, and you have these
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: devices that are made elsewhere, there's the possibility that they
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: could be manipulated or just outright turned off.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Shocked, shocked that that would happen. Yeah, okay, Daves. You
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: always talk about Internet of things devices. They don't think
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: about privacy and security when they're building them. They want
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: a device out there to get the revenue from it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Then like, oh my god, we forgot to deal with
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: the gaping hole and software which allow people to use
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it to remotely hack into somebody's system that exists because
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of a failure negligence. Perhaps, are you telling me that
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: we people don't think like you, Dave, And I'll ask
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: you directly. Don't you think the Chinese Communist Party, in
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: selling these devices hooked up to our grid, designed them
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: to be able to get into and soak up data
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: or otherwise shut the system down. That was probably initial
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: motivation for these gadgets.
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: I don't think you can rule that out, Brian, because
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: here's the thing. You know, you can make an argument
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: or any so called Internet of things device that one
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: of its benefits besides whatever it's specifically designed to do,
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: is that it can be remotely controlled, remotely updated, and
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: by updated, additional functionality could potentially be added through the software.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: So there's always the potential positive nature of these things.
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: But you really hit the nail on the head most
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: of these devices. Now again, when you get into the
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: industrial sector, it's a little different than the consumer stuff.
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: But when you get into these devices, they are not
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: focused on your privacy and security. You know, I have
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: been screaming about problems with software security. I mean, that's
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: really kind of how I got out of software engineering
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: and into cybersecurity. Is my concerns about in the software industry.
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: Less focus on security, robustness, privacy than speed to market,
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: ease of use, market share, meeting my budget, meeting my timeline,
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: that kind of thing, right, And I mean I used
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: to be that guy was only concerned does it do
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: what the customer asked for? Did I get it done
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: on time? And did I get it done on budget?
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: But over time, as we've become more reliant on this stuff.
• 56:09
  Speaker 7: It's more critical. Thankfully, folks like Siza out there have
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: the Secure by Design program trying to get software companies
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: to focus on security as a fundamental concept, not an
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: afterthought later. But yeah, you really hit the nail on
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: the head. Could there be backdoors built into these things
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: on purpose? You know, we talked recently about robots coming
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: from China and Chinese Communist Party back doors and the
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: robots that allow remote control. Again, not necessarily ne farious,
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: but could be. You know, and I know, before we
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: run out of time, I just remind folks stucks Net.
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: Stuck's Net was a virus created so that uranium Uranium
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: centerp would appear to be operating correctly to the operator
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: while they were basically destroying themselves because the software was
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: sending bad information to the operators. People think, this kind
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: of thing we're talking about here is far facks. It's
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: already been done more than ten years ago. So the
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: idea that someday, if it's Taiwan, if it's let's just
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: cause chaos in the United States or whatever, that a
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: switch is going to be flipped and you know, autonomous
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: cars stop working or become weapons, the grid goes down,
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: the water turns off.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Sadly, this is the reality we're in as long as we.
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: Continue to bury our heads in the sand to the
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: fact that we have to stop buying this stuff from
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: countries that are adversarial.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Another reason to not buy AI toys for your kids.
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  Speaker 2: Dave had Or, get in touch with interest it for
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  Speaker 2: your computer needs you business owners out there. Dave had Er,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: you've been harping on it for a long time. Don't
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: buy your kids AI toys or Internet connected toys for Christmas.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: And here's another warning from NBA see news on the
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  Speaker 2: same topic.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Brian, you know, every week after the show, I
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: try to post some notes to the articles that I
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: used to come up with these topics to discuss with you.
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  Speaker 7: And the one we just talked about that's got a
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: lot more details in it, you know, the inverters and
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: the Chinese solar panels and so forth. But this I
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: really want every parent and every grandparent to go read
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: this NBC News article because it's very detailed, it's got
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: some videos associated with it, and I think people will
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: literally be shocked. Yeah, I'm not that easy to be
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: shocked by this stuff anymore. And I mean, this is
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: so crazy. So yeah, I'm not a fan of the
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: Internet of Things, and anyone that knows me knows that
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: for all the reasons we just talked about and that
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: I've been talking about for years now. And now you're
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: going to take an internet connected toy, something that might
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: look like a cute little teddy bear or a flower
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: or some other sort of thing, some popular character, and
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: you're going to add a interface to some sort of
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: AI chatbot think chat EPT, Deep Seek Rock whatever. Right,
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: So now it's not just connected to the Internet op
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: perhaps a camera, perhaps a microphone, probably both, possibly recording
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: conversations your kids are having with the toy, Recording conversations
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: kids are having with their friends, Recording conversations you are
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: having with your kids, you know, much of which you
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: may not necessarily want recorded and uploaded to some probably
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: Chinese AI engine that's doing who knows what with that data,
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: storing it for who knows how long, selling it to
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: who knows who, so you know that risk was there
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: before with the general IoT stuff, but now you're gonna
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: connect to some kind of chatbot. And then the list
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: there's just such a laundry list of problems with this, right.
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: We've seen stories about kids that killed themselves after having
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: some extended conversation with one of these things. You know,
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: there's all kinds of recent studies coming out about kids'
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: mental health and social media and time on screens and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: so forth. And when you when you really dig into this, right,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: they talk about how this stuff is all new, it's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: poorly tested, you don't understand the privacy policy, you don't
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: know where the data is going. Now most of these
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: things come from China. I'm sure that's not a surprise
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: to anyone that's listening to this, but it's just it's crazy.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: So the Public Interest Research Group was one of the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: organizations that tested this, and then NBC did a bunch
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: of testing. And again, this article very well done in
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: terms of the amount of detail and the shocking, shocking
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: information that they're putting out.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: It's it's nuts.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Well real quick, here, let's summarize quickly how to light
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: and match specific instructions in toys A toy, a toy
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: for children three years old and older, teaches them how
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: to sharpen a knife. Here's here's here's one enthusiastically responding
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: to questions about sex and drugs search from some group
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: called p I r G, most notably the Alilo Smart Bunny,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: apparently popular on Amazon. Build is the quote best gift
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: for little ones close kite close quote. They say it
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: will engage in long and detailed descriptions of sexual practices,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: including kink, sexual positions, and sexual preferences. Asked about impact play,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: we know what that is, described as where one partner
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: strikes another. The bunny listed a variety of tools used
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: in bds M leather, flogger, it said, flogger with multiple
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: se We went into a description of bondage gear. This
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: is a child's toy, Dave, Yes.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: A child's toy. Your child is using it, probably in
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: their own room without your oversight or knowledge. That is
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: the most extreme example. But you know, further up in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: the same article, they say, you know that. The thing
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: I'm quoting directly from this NBC News article. Melu, manufactured
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: by the Chinese company Myriad, and one of the top
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: inexpensive search results on Ai toys for kids on AM
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: on what at times in tests with NBC News indicate
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: it was programmed to reflect Chinese Communist Party value.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I love this one.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Why yeah, ask why.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: Chinese president Xijing Ping looks like the cartoon character Winny
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: de Pooh, a comparison that has become an Internet mean
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: because it's censored in China. And Malu responded that your
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: quote statement is extremely inappropriate and disrespectful, since malicious remarks
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: are unacceptable. And then when asked whether Taiwan is a country,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: it said, quote, Taiwan is an inalienable part of China
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: that is an established fact, unquote or some variation of
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: the sentiment.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Nice propaganda coming from your child's toy.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: So yeah, it's it's propaganda. It's you know, dangerous advice.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: How to light a match, how to sharpen a knife,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: where to find knives, We talked about that one before.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: But then you know the the kink angle and so forth,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: and again you look at these photos. It's like a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: cute little bunny. It lights up in this thing. That's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: what this thing is exposing your kids to. So, you know,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: Internet of things in general, I'm against, but now you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: couple this with AI and the idea you're going to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: hand this over to a kid, think it's some sort
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: of innocuous little toy that they're going to play and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: quote learn from unquote, and I mean again, you just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: I can't stress enough how parents and grandparents need to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: understand this and do not buy this stuff.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Read this article. It's a shocker.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: And then I encourage people to go share this article
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: with your kids, your friends, you know, so that folks
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: realize the potential inadvertent danger they're exposing their children to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: through these things.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Just go to LinkedIn dot com and search for Dave Hatter.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: That's where he'll post this article. Six forty teven, fifty
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  Speaker 2: five KRCD talk station and finally Webster's word of the Year,
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  Speaker 2: What's slop?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Not what you want?
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  Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Tech Briddy, Dave Hat or interest it dot
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  Speaker 2: Com Day. Real quick, Eric reminded me yesterday was your birthday,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: so happy belated birthday from specifically Eric, who have FB
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Facebook messaged me instantly and from me the listening audience,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: I hope you had a really nice one, And of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: course from behalf of all of us, all of us,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: show me all my listening audience, thank you for what
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: you do here on the Morning show, and a very
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: merry Christmas to you and your family. So I just
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: wanted to get that out. The other thing I want
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: you to do for me. I saw that there's a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: lawsuit that was filed against the state of Indiana, or
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: rather against porn sites, most notably porn Hub. I've got
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: billions of people log into that site. Anyway, they outright
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: baned it as an accessible site in the state of
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Indiana under the new legislation seeking to keep children protected
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: from pornography, a notable goal and a laudable goal. But
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: now because of the use of a VPN, people are
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: getting around it just by acting like they're in some
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: other states. So the age verification law doesn't come in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Indiana says you can't do that. You must use porn hub,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: and it's soon to be every other provider of services
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: must flag VPNs and prevent VPNs from accessing porn in
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: the state of Indiana. That doesn't sound like a positive
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: direction for privacy purposes day, But maybe you can look
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: into that and maybe commented on it. When we get
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: back to the Tech Friday segment after the first of
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: Look, we can look into that, but yeah, in general,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: I understand what they're trying to do, but the idea
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: that you would ban the use of VPNs is not
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: a good thing.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Indeed, that was my conclusion immediately Slop Merriam Webster's new
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: word of the Year Dave obviously tech related.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so I thought this was kind of funny. So
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: there's been this talk of slop, the idea that AI
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 7: feeds off of the AI and that over time you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: go towards something known in the business think of it
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: as entropy model collapse. You know, if essentially all the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 7: human content has already been sucked up by these things,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: and now people are using these tools to generate new content,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 7: and this tool sucks down the content from that tool
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: generates some new content, and you get into this sort
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: of endless loop of now everything is just aig generated
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: you just sort of slowly go down, and you know,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: there have been lots of people talking about this for
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: some time. I'm one of the concerns about these generative
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 7: AI models. Where we started out, you know, the chat
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: GPTs of the world large language model based things is
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: that over time, as they feed off of themselves, the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: quality continues to go down because you have hallucinations, you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: have bias, all these things we've talked about over the year.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 7: So and there have been a lot of people pointing
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: out the sheer volume of videos and memes and so forth,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: and how the Internet is now full of this stuff, right,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 7: and it's just sort of taken over social media, and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: again you get this thing feeding that thing. Here's something
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: that's not correct. Over time, you just go down. And
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 7: that's where this idea of slop come is in. So
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: someone I'm not sure who coined the term, someone coined
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: the term AI slop, and it's kind of stuck. And
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: I think it's pretty relevant where we're at with all
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: of this stuff. And that's the word of the year.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 7: So I think in light of the sheer volume of
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: Internet produced garbage, these cat memes and all this stuff
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: you just see everywhere now, it's like, yeah, this is
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: a I think a pretty good indication of where we
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: are with this stuff at this point. So when you
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: hear someone say slop and obviously AI slop, sometimes people
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 7: will just throw out the term slop.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: That's what they're talking about.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: And it'll be interesting because you know, there's been so
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 7: much hype around this stuff, and I think a lot
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: of the hype has started to wear off and people
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: are starting to see that while these tools can provide
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: a lot of value. Again, I'm not saying they can.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: I think it's been way over hyped. I think the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 7: capabilities are way over hyped. And there are concerns by
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: people way smarter than me that work in this field
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 7: about things like this idea of model collapse and slop
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: and the hallucinations, and you know, are these tools going
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: to suddenly replace all of us?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I think the answer is no.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: Now, as I've said many times, Brian, I don't know
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: what's in some lab somewhere. I only know what I see.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, we use this stuff, but we understand how
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: to use it within the guardrails. Yeah, we know what
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: it does and what it can't do, and where it
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: makes sense and where it doesn't make sense. So yeah,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: I think this is an appropriate term. And it just
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: kind of makes me laugh a little because I've heard
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: people in the industry say it. But it's interesting that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: it's now sort of caught on and bubbled up to
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: the surface.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Well, good more people understand the concept, more people appreciate
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: the limitations of AI just based upon that term in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: and of itself, and you thank you so much. Dave
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: had to looking forward to count of your twenty twenty
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: six and return of this segment, assuming you're going to
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: continue doing it with us. I consider it to be
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: so valuable what you do here on the fifty five
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: CASA Mornings and of course throughout your career helping companies
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: avoid these types of problems interest it dot com. Thanks again, Dave,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: and you up you up for next year?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know, Brian.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: I always appreciate the opportunity you guys give me to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: hopefully do some good out there and enjoy check with
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: you and Joe and appreciate you and Joe and all
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: your listeners. Mery Christmas, Happy New Year, and now look
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: forward to talking to you in January.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: That's welcome news, my friend. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: God bless you, sir. We'll get back. It's seven six
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  Speaker 2: here at fifty five krs DE talk station. A very
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: happy Friday. He headed to the Christmas week next week,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: and welcome back to the fifty five CASSEE Morning Show.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Love you coming on the program, and I know my
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: listeners love hearing from your Congressman Warren Davidson. Welcome back,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: my friend. Always a pleasure, and Merry Christmas to you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: and your family, sir.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Merry Christmas, Brian, It's always an honor, Thank.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: You, Thank you, and let's dive on into it real quick.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Here I saw the Senate. I don't know if they
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: actually passed it, but they were pushing towards a mini
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: bus deal to fund the most of the government, about
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: eighty and nine eighty percent of the government combining in
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: this minibus like an omnibus, but not completely on steroids
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: like most of them. Department's offense, Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, Commerce, Justice, Interior, Transportation,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: and Housing and urban Development. So rather than multiple appropriation
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: bills approved individually, this lumps them all into one, so
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: there only remains a couple of departments that they have
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: to address. Sounds like it will keep the government running.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: In other words, there's no threat of government shut down
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: if this goes through, although there will be a couple
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: of bills left. Is that something that sounds appealing to you?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with what's going on in the Senate?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: And are you think you'd be on with this if
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: it gets handed over to the House for approval.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: Well, they're bundling five bills together, and inherently that just
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: means that they're burying something that Democrats want in labor,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: health and Human Services for example, to get things that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: Republicans want in defense for example. So that's the transportation
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: and hud. You know, why do those things go together.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: There's no made formula, it's just these are the deals
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: that are able to get cut often. And from what
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: I understand, they were close to a deal in the Senate,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: and that's where it's a little vexing because they got
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: to have sixty votes and apparently the Democrats withhold their
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: support for the final package. So the Senate left town
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: without passing it, which is you know, the House hasn't
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: passed some of these things because you know, we don't
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: have the votes in the Senate. So they're really going
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: to be the driver for what the deal that can
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: get cut. Republicans would probably want something more aggressive than
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: could pass the Senate, but lately I don't know. I mean,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: we got Republicans the speaker kept us out of session
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: when the Democrats shut the government down last time to
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: prevent the surrender Caucus from running over and cutting deals
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: with Democrats. And nevertheless, here at the end of the session,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: we had four Republicans try to run over and form
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: a new surrender caucus. And you know, I found no
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: Republicans that said let's save Obamacare, but apparently four of
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: them wanted to save Obamacare here at the end. Thankfully
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: it didn't work well.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Perfect pivot over to the healthcare debate that continues to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: go on. The surrenderco because, of course, of those folks
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: who are willing to extend these unbelievably expensive subsidies masking
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the actual cost of Obamacare, which is a lustrative of
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that, well, it's an epic failure. Congressman David
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: the I think you can probably agree on that one.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: But where are we in so far as something to advance.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I know, House Republicans passed a bill the other day
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: which I know the CBO said, with lower Americans health
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: care costs by about eleven percent, but it didn't extend
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: any subsidies. So I expect that the Democrats are all
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: against that, which leads us kind of where Congressman.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's a good summary. Wednesday, the House
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: passed the healthcare bill. I mean we've I looked it up.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: I mean we've had over two hundred hearings since twenty seventeen.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: But the jurisdiction split up amongst multiple committees, so there's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: not like a single unified Republican plan. There are dozens
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: of plans. So where the speaker cobbled together over the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: last couple of weeks was a collection of things that
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: have overwhelming support by Republicans and Democrats normally would support
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: some of these things, but you know, they're trying to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: steer towards single payer, and they're focused all on the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: more free stuff for more people approach of it doesn't
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: lower the cost. It's n shifts who's paying, and in
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: fact it raises it. It causes more inflation. And look,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: you think about Obamacare, this isn't even subsidies. The covid
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: era subsidies aren't even subsidies for traditional Obamacare. They're like
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: bonus subsidies generally aimed at the higher end of the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: income bracket.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: It isn't working. So if you look at it, well,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: since twenty twenty one, these things have been getting paid
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: out as your insurance been massively better than ever before,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 5: it hasn't. You've been getting double digit increases, you still
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: got the same big out.
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  Speaker 2: Of pocket maxes.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: You still have sometimes claim denied or sometimes oh what
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: are you talking about it? Out of network. I was
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: in the same building all day, and you get all
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: those same things that people are frustrated about. And Democrats
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: are counting on this sleight of hand to try to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: blame Republicans for everything that you don't like about your
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: health care, and the reality is the Republican plan was, well,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: let's talk about the broader market, not just the government
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 5: subsidy side of it, and deal with some things that
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: will make health care more affordable. It's not everything we
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: need to do on healthcare. I'm sure we're going to
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: keep talking about it all year, but it's a start,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: and frankly, it puts Republicans ahead of where we were
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen when we couldn't get consensus.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess one thing that really just irks me
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: to know and want to pull my hair out every
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: time I read it. When the supplements or the subsidies
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: are talked about and rejected by Republicans, they Democrats scream,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: you're not doing anything to lower the cost of health care. Well,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: masking it is. All those subsidies do, is you point
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: it out, it increases the cost of health care. There's
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: no incentive to reduce the cost. We need a more
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: market flexible approach to this, something that'll create competition. But
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: aside from that as a concept, why not don't we
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: all agree that PBMs are no longer a necessary expenditure,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: that they are driving the cost of pharmaceuticals up, that
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: they benefit no one but the hospitals and the PBM managers.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Why why don't we just all collectively agree we're going
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: to do one thing where you we're gonna all join
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: and unite to reject the use of pharmacy benefit managers
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: and then we can all move forward with other elements
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: of healthcare and deal with those later.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't get that across the finish line, which
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: is maddening it is. And so last year this time
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: this time last year, we had a bill there was
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: a major reform of the pharmacy benefit management program. It
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: got rid of stupid things like gag orders, where the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: pharmacists isn't supposed to tell you, hey, if you just
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: do it this way, it costs you like ten bucks
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: instead of you know, one hundred bucks, or you know,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: all those kinds of things that are just you know
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: offensive that they're even in practice. So we did on
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: the bill Wednesday deal with pricing for pharmaceuticals, but we
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: didn't do the broader pharmacy benefit management plan. And look,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: Buddy Carter is an actual pharmacist from Georgia. He's a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: member of the House right now, and he's tried to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: do this forever. He's like, this is how these PBMs
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: are wrecking the pharmacy practice, and in particular, they're wrecking
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: independent pharmacists. So you can deal with the major mail
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: order outlets in a different way, but they're really trying
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: to consolidate the industry, which you know, let's the pharmacy
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: benefit managers control a handful of big guys versus having
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: to deal with a ton of independent pharmacists around the country.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: It's bad for everybody, and I think broadly people agree.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: But that's the kind of frustrating thing that goes on
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: in DC. You're like, well, we're trying to make the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: speaker put it on the floor, but he's like, well,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: we got these other members ten or fifteen that won't
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: vote for it, so it's going to fail.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, okay, in the minute we got here in
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: the segment, Congressman Davidson. Since everyone sees these well, the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: vast majority except for a handful, I just want to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: know what the handful of folks who want to protect
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: the PBMs have. What is their stake in the game.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: What is their argument that they're valuable and not just
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: a cost enhancing thing.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: Well, this is exactly what my point is, Brian. You
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: got to put it on the floor. So then the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: people know, Hey, here's the people that agree with the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: personal benefit managers. Ask them why they think this is
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: a good idea. It's indefensible generally. And then that's the
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: biggest frustration overall. There's so much work that goes into
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: making sure we don't vote, and it's like, no, you
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: did all this work to get elected. You get a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: voting card vote, and look, I get it. Sometimes you
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: get these tough votes where it's like, look, you don't
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: get to write an essay.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: It's yes or no.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: So so it's frustrating.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you're like, well there's a little nuance here. Well
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: then explain it and in price. When you're defending something
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: like pharmacy benefit managers, people are going to pay attention
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: because they're like, uh yeah, please explain.
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  Speaker 2: How about this as a concept standalone bill? Get rid
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: of pharmacy benefit managers is the bottom line of what
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: the bill says. Doesn't include any other provisions or anything
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: else related to any other element of aspect of healthcare.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Queue the bill up and then discharge position and force
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: everybody to come out and say out loud why they're for,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: or just go ahead and get rid of them.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: Possible, Well, the discharge position might be a lane to try.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know that effort's been tried. But that's the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: single subject builds. This is the thing everyone talks about
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: it and just like the appropriations, you can't get a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: single subject bill on appropriations because they got to do
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: the cobbling of the deal making together. It's the way
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: this sausage is made right and that you know, you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: could respect it if it was working right.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: But it isn't.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people want the transparency.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: So maybe the discharge on the pharmacy that benefit managers
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: is the path that seems to be the only way
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: to get certain things to the floor.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Well, you can go feel free to advent. It's that idea,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: and you can take credit for it too. Congressman Davidson's respect.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: There you go. I'd love to talk with that guy.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: I wonder what's going through his head. Answered a lot
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: of questions for me. Anyway, Congressman Warre Davidson, we're talking
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Epstein files. Today's the day. I guess plus inflation came
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: in lower than expected by a little bit, which is
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: obviously a positive thing. Let's continue in a moment after
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: I mentioned calling electric power up your holiday sale that's
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: going on to the end of the month.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Seven one to five KARSI Talk Station Friday with Congressman
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Warren Davidson. Moving over. I guess today's the day. According
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: to the Epstein Act you had, the files have to
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: be released in searchable form. A lot of people saying
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: that's not going to happen for a variety of reasons.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Where are we on that one, Congressman Davidson, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that's the law. It passed, I mean overwhelmingly,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: and now the administration's got to comply with it. So
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: you know, we'll see see what they publish. You know,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: we'll see whether it's a clean thing. But yeah, here's
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: my frustration. This is why I thought, like, well, the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: discharge petition is interesting, but the real issue is when
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: is somebody going to jail and they're not going to
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: jail until Pam Bondi brings some charges or US attorneys
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: around the country bring charges, and it's like, where's the investigations.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: We know these girls didn't traffic themselves because Jelane Maxwell's
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: in jail for trafficking. She trafficked them to somebody, So
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: where are the prosecutions? And I think that's where people
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: are rightly livid. Yeah, you know, even some of President
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: Trump's biggest fans, you know, and you know Trump didn't
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: take it well. I mean he he kind of unloaded
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: on Thomas Masky and Marjorie Taylor Green, I don't know,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: largely over their their pressure on Epstein and it's like, look,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: we love you, but what's going on here.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: I share the same concern and disbelief. I mean, he
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: did campaign on releasing the Epstein files. Democrats wouldn't release
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: them when Joe Biden was in office, and then they
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: turned into the biggest supporters of releasing them as soon
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: as Donald Trump selected and after saying he wants some released,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: he didn't does a one eighty, and then he says, no,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: we don't need to release them. There's no there there.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the most confusing element of the presidency
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: thus far as far as I'm concerned, Congressom Massey, I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: just don't get it. It's never been adequately explained to me.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean I think that's part of where
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: the disclosure will, okay, help us understand. I mean, so,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: you know, Dan Bongino's leaving. I don't know if this
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: is the only reason, but you know he was very
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: intent on this before he went to the FBI. He
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: becomes the number two at the FBI. You think this
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 5: is certainly one of the things that's going to change.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: And you know, this is the thing I'm just thinking about.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: You know, Frederick Douglass, you know, iconic Republican, former slave
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: earned his freedom, a lot of really good thinking in
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: some of his writings. But one of the points is
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: Powerson seems nothing without a demand.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: You know, Massey led the discharged position, made the demand,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: and the concession has been made. We'll see whether it's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: made public today, But the real question is what are
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: the layers behind this that are still holding it back? Yeah,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: how are we going to get the FBI, for example,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: to be held accountable for anything? So look, I'm hoping
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty six in the new year is the year
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: of accountability.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that would be nice, I mean, most notably considering
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: all the details now that have come out about these
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: the warrant that was issued on Donald Trump and the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: storming of his residence in mar A Lago with guns
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: blazing or guns out and sirens and FBI officers coordinated
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: effort with CNN to be there on the scene. Apparently
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: they didn't even have probable cause to issue the warrant
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: in the first place.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: Congressman, Yeah, you keep skinning these abuses of the FBI,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: And look, we have certain tools in place you want
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: to be able to stop terrorists and bad guys, but
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: everything that we use to design against enemies of our country,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: these guys were weaponizing against Donald Trump. And so again,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: Pam BONDI, when is somebody going to jail? People are
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: really livid about this, and I don't think it is
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: resonating enough. But you would think of all people. Bean
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: Dan Bongino totally gets it. You know, a lot of
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: this reason is podcast surged was this exact kind of
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: issue where where's the accountability? And he gets in a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: position to do it, and you're like, well, who do
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: we need to send to reform the FBI? And maybe
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: the answer is it can't be reformed. We're just gonna
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: you know, the government brought the FBI into the world,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: the government should be able to take it out. The
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: result needs to be done. We need law enforcement, but
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: they're not working. They're not responding, they're not steering. And
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: it's the same kind of thing usaid. We tried to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: steer it, they wouldn't steer.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: We just got rid of it.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davidson, it is a pleasure to have you on.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your willingness to come up on the show,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: up in the morning show and talk to my listeners
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: and me on a regular basis. I'll look forward to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: count of your twenty twenty six and continuing this and
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: on behalf again of my listeners. Joe Strecker myself to
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: you and your entire family, we wish you the merriest
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: of Christmas. Is Happy House safe travels if you're moving
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: about and look forward to hitting the ground running next year, Sir.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Likewise, goeed. Bless you and all your listeners.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Brian, Merry Christmas, Thank you, Congressman Davidson. Seven twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: Cassee Morning Show. Head of the Ohio Republican Party, Alex
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Cheronta Filo, always great having on the program. Alex, welcome
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: back in advance. Happy, happy Christmas, Merry Christmas to you
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: and your family.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: Well, Brian, thank you, and Merry Christmas and happy Holidays
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: and everything to you and your listeners. And always good
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: to be with you two.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Buddy. All right, I'm gonna get a we're gonna try
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: to do a bit of a year in review here
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: and then we'll look forward to twenty twenty six and
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: insofar as the latter topic and even the former topic
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: is concerned. I just wanted to get your reaction to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: Governor de wine statements relative to V. Vike Ramaswami, who
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I understand enjoys the Republican Party endorsement already. He won't
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: endorse him yet, and he really tried to salvage this
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: certain degree Doctor Amy Acton Amy Lockdown acting Democrat, he
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: appointed to be the medical director during COVID lockdown times.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: She's the one that came up with the concepts like
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: let's not drink after ten pm, but you don't have
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: to go home at a bar. It didn't make any
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: sense Lockdown Amy Acton, but he provided her cover, saying
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: the buck stops with him, which I agree, but I
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: kind of wondered why he was trying to provide her
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: some cover and what his problem is with endorsing VI
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: vike Ramaswami, who does have the Republican Party endorsement. Alex
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Wait covered.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: A lot of ground and it's all fair. So Brian,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: I want to say this to you. First of all,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: the vike Ramaswami did receive our full endorsement. You know,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: I go way back with a bake. I've known him
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: a long time. He's an incredible candidate for the Republican Party,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: very strong. Look, no matter what the Governor says, Amy
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: Actin is going to have to answer to Ohioan's for
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: her conduct in the same way that Anthony Fauci answered
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 6: for his conduct. It wasn't Joe Biden or Donald Trump
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: who made decisions and advised you know, non scientist, non doctors.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: So Amy Acting is going to have to answer for
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 6: all of those things. You know, you can, the governor
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 6: can can continue to do what he's going to do.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: But let me tell you it's not going to deter
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: us one bit from pointing out Amy Acting's absolute failures
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 6: in her job, and also to talk a lot about
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: the Viake Ramaswami in the incredible gifts and talents that
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: he brings in this job. So yeah, look, I I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: do Ultimately Brian is the party's leader here in Ohio.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: I expect the Governor will endorse the Republican nominee, and
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: that's going to be the Viake ramis Swami. I think
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: that's going to happen. I think in the meantime, you know,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: the governor is going to stand up for, you know,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: for what he did and say what he did was
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: what he did, and in one small way you respect it.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: At least you know he's taken them. He's saying, Look,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: I was the decision maker and that's kind of what
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: leaders do. But that is not to absolve Amy Act
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: in one bit for her lockdowns, for masking our children,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 6: for shutting down businesses, and for all the other terrible
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: and I mean awful decisions that she put upon Ohio
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: and during the COVID disaster. So you know, there's not
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: going to be any absolution of her, you know, because
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: of what other politicians might say.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's kind of hide behind Well, the information was unfolding.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: We didn't have it all in front of us. We
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: were erring on the side of caution. Well, you didn't
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: have to shut the kids out of school, one of
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: the first states to do. So look what Florida did.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: They didn't lock down, they didn't have any problems, and
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: there were multiple directions to go. And of course there
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: could have been a middle ground somewhere in there, I suppose,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: but I mean she would full on shut down and
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: that ruined so many lives. So yes, I agree, we
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: will hold her fully accountable as we as we head
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: on into November. Also notable and again which makes me
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: really puzzled. Why Dwine won't just go ahead and give
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: his endorsement, which you expect and I do too. Ultimately,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: there's no primary challenger. I mean, what's the weight all about?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I've asked him, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think he's just going running through his trap. So
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: what he has said to me is what you have
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: said publicly, and I wouldn't disclose it any he said
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: to me privately anyway, as you well know, Brian. But
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  Speaker 6: I will tell you that he has said already publicly
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  Speaker 6: that he intends to endorse. I think Camda Vak are
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: just having a little bit of a warming up period. Look,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: this is all going to come together, and Ohioan's are
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: going to have a binary choice. I mean we're still nine,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: you know, ten months away from the election. So the
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: answer is going to really be the Vake Ramaswami will
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: be the next governor of this great state. He is
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: going to have every advantage that the candidate needs. This
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: is still still very much a red state. The generic
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: polling which you know we ask people and polls, Brian,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: or you're a Republican or a Democrat. It's still about
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: seven percentage points in the state. Donald Trump won this
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: state by eleven percentage points, so you know, we're we're
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 6: going to be in very good shape. And what we did, frankly,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: what I did here at the Ohio Republican Party is
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: we endorse the Vake. We endorse them early. We have
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: recognized the general rational talent and one of the most
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: thoughtful conservative leaders in America, and we're lucky to have
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: him and Brian. I mean, I'm on the ground with
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  Speaker 6: a vake all around Ohio, and I really I may
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: perhaps I'm put to hyperbole. Let me just say this
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: to you about that. The level of support, the excitement
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: that I've seen on the ground for vivike Ramaswami is
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: unlike anything I've ever seen for any politician other than
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: Donald Trump in Ohio and vivig showed up at Miami
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: University on a cold winter's night two weeks ago, and
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: their students lined up two blocks in the middle of
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: campus to hear from vivike Ramaswami. My man, that's not
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: happening for Amy Acton, That's not happening for even my
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: good friends on the Republican side, on the establishment side
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: who might show up. So it's an incredible thing. We
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 6: have a vake running and no political endorsement or anything
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: like that is going to Ultimately what gets it done
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 6: for him, what gets it done is his skills, his
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: acumen is a candidate and as a person, as a leader,
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  Speaker 6: as a completely self made Cincinnati kid.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: So it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun campaign, Brian.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: It already is, yes, and he is such an inspirational speaker,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: sort of Reagan asking his ability to charge a crowd
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: up and get them excited and positive thinking, it's wonderful
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: to behold. We'll bring Alex Chanance Tofilo back after these
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: brief worst beginning with plump type plumbing which others for
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  Speaker 2: comedy Talk station seven fifty five KRC detalk station, Happy Friday,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas with a higher Republican Party Chairman Alex Chanontafilo.
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  Speaker 2: Before we look forward, and I know the all important
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: midterm elections where the party that is not in presidential
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: power usually ends up scoring some extra seats. We'll get
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: your analysis of that in the next as we look forward,
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  Speaker 2: but looking back on twenty twenty five, anything you're particularly
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: proud of that we got accomplished here in the state
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: of Ohio. It seems to me, in spite that we
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: are very red and we have an overwhelming well, the
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Republican Party has an overwhelming majority in the state House.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: They it's like hurting cats a lot of times. We
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: expect a lot more because we all think that the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Republicans will play nicely together in the name of benefiting
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: all Ohiolands. And yet it doesn'tlways seem to work out
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  Speaker 2: that way. But what's your take on twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 2: before we get to this upcoming year?
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  Speaker 1: Alex, Well, Look, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, you know, some of this is inside baseball. But
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  Speaker 6: for instance, my organization we contributed participated in mail for
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  Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty six races. We won more than
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty of those. So look, I mean
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: in the suburban communities and the rural communities of Ohio,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: we do very well. Look if you live here in Cincinnati,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: not so good. And I look, I still spend about
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 6: half my time here, live on the West Side and
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: love my Hamilton County community. But look, I mean when
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: you get outside of the Beltway, of the three big
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: seas Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati. You know, the Republican Party
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: does very well. But listen, Brian, you said it, the
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: pendulum swings back. I've been at this long enough to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: know that the party out of power in fact does
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: suffer losses in the midterms. So we know, you know,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 6: what the potential is here is that we we get
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 6: a bit of a correction back to the center, God forbid,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: back to the left. So you know, we're fighting every
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: single day to keep that from happening. My further analysis
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: of twenty twenty five is that Republicans cannot stay home.
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  Speaker 6: One of the things that's just kind of a natural
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: phenomenon in politics is that when the things that motivated
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 6: you to go out have been resolved, sometimes you know,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: you tend to just say, well, okay, things are better.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: For instance, the one issue that we have repeatedly seen
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: that motivated voters in twenty twenty four was the problem
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: at the southern border. Well, that's the problem has been solved.
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  Speaker 6: So a lot of Republicans, you know, not the ones
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: day to day like you and me that are watching,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: are like, okay, well, you know, we're not as energized
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 6: anymore because of the problem at the southern border, but
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: a lot of other problems, and we need to stay
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: fully engaged. Got to make sure they don't impeach President Trump.
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  Speaker 6: So you know, twenty twenty five was a challenge in
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: the sense that Republicans did not, you know, get out
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  Speaker 6: and vote in the numbers where we need them to vote.
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  Speaker 6: If Republicans vote Brian in twenty twenty six and the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: same way that they did in twenty twenty four in Ohio,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: will win everything again. You know, we won everything in
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, really had blowout losses. Really in twenty
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: twenty four with Bernie Marino, we won. We ousted two
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: Democrats on the Supreme Court. You know, we won super
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: majorities in the House and Senate. So look, from a
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 6: political perspective, twenty twenty five left me a little disappointed
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: because our people need to get out and vote. And
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: that's the simple message for twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you know, since we move aside from the
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: whole healthcare debacle, which I think just illustrates the failure
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: of Obamacare generally speaking, but that is obviously one of
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: the Democrats' favorite talking points and we go into November,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: the subsidies are gone, the supplet you know, the enhanced
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: premiums of there. Well, you know, that's just revealing the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: reality of the failure of Obamacare. But that's an issue.
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  Speaker 2: But the other issue that very difficult for Donald Trump
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: or any president to get on top of his inflation,
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  Speaker 2: and inflation ticked up less this past month than they
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: were anticipating, but going up two point eight percent as
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: opposed to three point three percent. That's still going up
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: and is still beyond the desired rate of inflation. What
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  Speaker 2: can you know? Inflation is so complicated. You know, the
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: price of eggs went up in large part because of
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: the bird flu. Who's that wasn't a political decision, that
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: was just the bird flu. The beef herds are way
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: down to night below nineteen fifties levels, the lowest they've
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: been since nineteen fifty. Our populations obviously gone up. You
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: can't just magically create cows to make the price of
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: beef go down, so that's kind of out of his hands.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: So people want to point to these tariffs as being
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: an inflationary driver, but so far it hasn't been the
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: disaster that many of the gloom and dumers had predicted.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: So what are we going to do about inflation if
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: that's everybody on everybody's hearts and minds as a dominant issue, Alex,
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  Speaker 2: I think I think a couple.
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  Speaker 6: Of things are going to happen. First of all, and
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: again I'm not this is no spin for me. I
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: feel like my costs are down, maybe because Brian, I
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: spend so much time driving around the Great State of Ohio. Yay,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: you know, my two dollars and thirty four cents I
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 6: know gallons is a significant safeties. I went from you know,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: close to seventy dollars to fill my tank now to
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: sometimes as low as you know, under fifty dollars to
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: fill my tank. So I certainly have seen it. I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: see at the end of the month on the credit
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: card statement that I, you know, peruse pretty carefully just
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: to kind of track our expenses. And you know it's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: so I don't know, I personally have seen this change
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: on gas prices. Others perhaps have not. The polling kills
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  Speaker 6: us we have not. You said it that inflation is
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: a complex problem. But what I think we're going to see,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: what I'm confident we're going to see actually twenty twenty
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: six is you're going to see more take home paid
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: because of tax cuts. You are going to see the
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: tax cuts that we're already in place continue to kind
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: of drive higher incomes for Americans. You're going to see
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: a bigger tax return if you're a person who receives
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: a tax return. And I think you're going to see
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: this cost of energy Brian, that we just talked about,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: that lower cost of energy should begin to continue to
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: bring down inflation. I mean, inflation is at the lowest
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: point that it's been at since COVID. The policies of
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: President Trump are working. But again, as the President said,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: you know, Rome wasn't built overnight. Joe Biden did, in
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: fact and us a crisis on the inflation and on
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: the economy. The laws that he passed when he entered office.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: That's blooded our economy with a lot of dollars and
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: a lot of sort of free printed government money created
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: the ininflationary crisis. And it's just going to take a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: while to make it, you know, to fix it. It's
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: not going to be fixed overnight. The American people must
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: understand that this is a problem that is complex and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: it's going to take some time to fix. But look,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: I think people are going to see relief and already
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: seeing relief, but are going to see even more relief
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: first quarter, if not completely in the first quarter, first
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: half of twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it'll be nice to get a relief from our
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: Duke energy bill because of course that keeps going up
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: and up. Thankfully, we're not living in the North East
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: region of the country where they've gone so far Green
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: New Deal that they're having rolling power outages and they
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: have an insufficient supply of electricity to fund the ever
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: growing demand on the grid, artificial intelligence being one of
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: the drivers, at least under the Trump administration, we're backing
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: off that nonsense and we're going in a saner direction,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: which will provide us relief, you know, cheaper energy prices.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: That's just one of the drivers of people's inability to
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: even own a home because you got to deal with
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: that energy bill. That's an easily accomplishable goal, but it
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: does take time. Alex what no question about it.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you this is to talk for a
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: minute about the vake Ramaswami again, a Vek is just
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: absolutely eloquent on what we need to do. In this state.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: To make this an energy producing state may just free
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 6: up the market. The market will drive this, Brian. We're
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 6: both free market capitalists. If we allow the free market
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 6: to operate to produce energy in the state, and we'll
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: be able to not only keep up with the demands
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 6: which are growing, but also exceed those demands and make
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 6: us a net exporter of energy. But again, you have
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 6: to be a free market capitalist, remove regulation, walk away
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: from this the Green New Deal scam that we all
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: know as a scam. So you know, hopefully all those
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: things come together to drive them as energy prices and
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: bring down the prices of everything else.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Alex Jeantfilo, you are always welcome on the fifty five
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  Speaker 2: my listeners and me and on behalf of my listeners
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: if I may take the liberty to do so, and
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: Joe Strecker myself again, a really heartfelt Merry Christmas to
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• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: safe travels to you and your family. Alex, thanks again
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: for coming on and we'll do it again next year
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: Thank you, Brian. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to you.
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• 1:40:16
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, my man, Brian Man. I wanted to see
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 8: in person this morning, but ran into a couple of
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 8: win troubles from last night. But it's all good. How
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  Speaker 8: you doing.
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  Speaker 2: It's all good when we're talking to you, brother, and
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  Speaker 2: I really would like to be seen across of the
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  Speaker 2: board here, but that's okay. We'll do that again next year.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping to have you on during counteryear twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great. You're getting geared up for the holidays,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: going to celebrate Christmas. Andre Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 8: Just all about peace and happiness.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 8: That's what we're practicing. Just making sure we have peace
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  Speaker 8: that are surpass all understandings.
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  Speaker 2: Amen to that. That's one of my favorite phrases, Peace
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: of God. It passes all human understanding. It's like a
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: lot of things in politics. Maybe it's like the one
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: point eight million dollars settlement to the protesters during the
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty Floord protest. Let's start with that one. Andre
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: I understand from a lawyer's perspective, I understand the argument
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: that was made by the protesters. Listen, we have a
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: First Amendment right to well, to protest, to speak politically,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: to gather together in groups. And the riot situation was
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: there was a mixed bag of people who were just protesting,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: but also people who were breaking the law, and things
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: got apparently out of control. I know, the mayor put
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: a curfew in place, and so all these people who
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: were gathered together and put over in the Hamilton County
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: lock up in that area. I can't remember what they
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: called that, but it was sort of an outdoor area
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: and held there for a while, filed this lawsuit claiming
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: that their civil rights got violated. So, yeah, we do
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: have the First Amendment, but there were a lot of
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: crime in there. Apparently the police arrested them for the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: curfew violation, not for specific crimes like blocking the street
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: or throwing off frozen water bottle or something like that
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: that would result in a separate criminal or could result
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: in a separate criminal charge, but because they were curfew violations,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: they claimed it was a civil rights violation, So ultimately
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: the city wrote them a check for one point or
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: eight point one million dollars, which translates about twelve to
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  Speaker 2: thirteen thousand dollars per protester. As a former police officer
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  Speaker 2: and someone who understands the situation, Andre Ewing, what's your
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  Speaker 2: take on all this and what's your reaction to the settlement.
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  Speaker 8: Well, of course you add over four hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 8: nine plaintiffs and here you have a payout, and people
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 8: do understand this. What I call this game is to
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 8: get into certain groups, get into a protesting type situation,
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  Speaker 8: and to bait the police so they can actually sue.
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  Speaker 8: And this is interesting because this happens in a lot
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  Speaker 8: of different places around the country. I mean, but to
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  Speaker 8: really look deeper into an eight point one million dollar settlement,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, the way the arrests were, they were a
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  Speaker 8: lot of individuals that was told was being reckless. So
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  Speaker 8: it's interesting that it was strictly just being a curfew violation.
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  Speaker 8: And that's where city leaders should have came together and
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  Speaker 8: been more specific that am I just going to arrest
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  Speaker 8: you and place you in the Hamilton count of Justice
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  Speaker 8: Center on a specific pod because you violated a curfew,
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  Speaker 8: and so is it you violated a curfew or you
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 8: were being reckless during this twenty twenty George Floyd Racial Justice.
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  Speaker 8: So the clarity is extremely weak and it would be
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 8: interesting to see what was the actual plan, to be
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  Speaker 8: honest with you, buy the police during this encounter to
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 8: just arrest individuals that were violating the curfew.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I talk with former FOP President Dan Hills about this,
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  Speaker 2: and he was very upset about this the settlement. But
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: I pointed to him and it's like, listen, from a
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: you know, lawyer perspective, From a constitutionalist perspective, you do
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  Speaker 2: have the right to free assembly, and that trumps the
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  Speaker 2: curfew argument I would make, because you know, adults are
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  Speaker 2: allowed to go out at any given time and assemble.
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  Speaker 2: But peaceable assembly is different than breaking an individual law. Like,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: for example, in the middle of the street you're blocking traffic,
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  Speaker 2: you can be cited for just that. It doesn't matter
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: what the time of day is, doesn't matter if you're
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  Speaker 2: involved in protest or free speech. You're out in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the damn road. You can't be there. Here's
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  Speaker 2: a ticket for that. If every one who was arrested
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: got an individual ticket. Under that type of scenario, then
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you'd see this lawsuit. They wouldn't have
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: the civil rights argument that they made. But the problem was,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: as it was explained to me, is that there were
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: so many people there it's virtually impossible for law enforcement
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: to figure out who's standing on the sidewalk versus who's
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the street, who's peaceably assembling, and
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: who's not. And so you just gather them all up
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  Speaker 2: and tell them they all violated the curfew. That it
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: was the impetus behind the lawsuit. So what's your having
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: been a police officer for so many years, I mean,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: that's it. I suppose that's a genuine problem parsing through
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  Speaker 2: the lawbreakers and the ones that aren't.
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  Speaker 8: And you know what, Brian, this is why I say
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  Speaker 8: that I would love to see the body cam footage
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  Speaker 8: from from point A to point B where they were arrested.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 8: Let me see the details, what was actually presented that
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 8: was there or did you have officers just being reckless
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 8: and going in and arresting just anybody. And that's where
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure that there were specific individuals that they probably
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 8: just gathered up that let's just say were in the
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 8: crowd and we're trying to assemble peacefully, and we know
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 8: that is what generated the actual complaints. And once you
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 8: start getting one and two and three good complaints, you're
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: going to get one hundred more following.
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  Speaker 2: No question about it. So, had there been better management,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: in other words, had the mayor gotten more actively involved
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: or sharel long gotten more actively involved as city manager
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: or council getting more actively involved in directions to the
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: police department. I guess I'm just wondering where the breakdown
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: comes in, you know, explaining to them, though you just
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: can't randomly pick up people for peaceably assembling, you got
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: to have a specific crime. Is that the kind of
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: directive as a police officer when you were a police officer,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: as you currently understand things, is that the kind of
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: thing you would expect council, the manager and or the
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: mayor to do in advance of the obviously knowing that
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: these pro tests are going on. Hell, it had been
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: going on for several days, So what do you expect
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: them to do?
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 8: See, this is what happens, Brian, when the left hand
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 8: doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and the
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 8: lack of communication and I'm gonna be honest with you
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 8: no matter what situation I was in. I remember the riots,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 8: even with Tim Thomas and that particular situation, and at
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 8: the time, I'm gonna be the supervisors were ridiculous. And
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 8: this is where you really have to sit back and
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 8: ask what are we doing at this particular time, how
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 8: are we doing it? And make sure te's a cross
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 8: and i's or dotted. So Somewhere in this particular situation,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 8: somebody clearly dropped the ball and they just grabbed a
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: group of individuals and said, hey, we're gonna get these
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 8: officers down here if they across the street the wrong way,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 8: arrest them. And this is where the breakdown is in communication.
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  Speaker 1: And tea.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough. Now your takeaway, did they collectively learn anything
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: from this on a going forward basis? New practices or
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: protocols put into place so we don't have to continue
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: to write checks andre.
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  Speaker 8: You know what, I guess the answer will be, we
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 8: will soon see because we both know that there's going
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 8: to be another type of protest, another type of rioting situation,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 8: and this is where leadership matters and making sure that
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 8: the right people are in place that these things don't
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 8: continue to happen again.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll tell you what we almost out
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: of time in this segment. I'm gonna break a little
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: bit early and let you know in advance on this
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: particular topic. Law enforcement generally and writing checks want to
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: hit you for what's the status on the Chief Washington situation?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: Do we learn anything from that Chiefdiji? Do we ever
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: get a reason for why they put her on administrative leave?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: That one seems to be swirling with question and doesn't
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: it not look like we're going to be writing a
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: couple of very large checks in connection with their cases
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: against the city. Let's continue with Brother Dre Andre, you
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: and curse Breakers three hundred strong. It's eight fourteen right now.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be right back after these brief words.
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• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: Andre Ewing if you like. That's his Facebook page Andre
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: A N. Dre e Ewing e Wing. I follow him
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: all the time. He does great rants. He's on the
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: program for this hours talking about matters going on the
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati before we get into the questions I
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: have about former fire Chief Washington and the currently on
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: administrative leave dismissed police chief three So, Thigi, I see
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: that you are going to have a brand new web
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: page after the year. Is that the one you want
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: people to go to after the first of the year
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: or are you going to stick with Andrea Ewing. I'm
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: just letting my friends know so they can check out
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: what you got to say.
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  Speaker 8: Andre, Yes, sir. After the first of the year, it'll
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: go back to Curse Breakers three hundred dash, brother Dre,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 8: and all the content will be pushed over to that
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  Speaker 8: particular page.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough, And you want to remind my listeners what
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: you do with Cursebreakers three hundred. I know it's prison ministry,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: but just put a little more information on the bones
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: of that general description because I think it's a great
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: thing you're doing.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Curse Break is three hundred dis designed to assist
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 8: and help individuals to come over what I call supernatural
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 8: strongholds of things in their life, and so it burst
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 8: in the prison system to just give people hope before
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 8: they get released and to have them in a stronger mental, physical,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 8: and spiritual position. So it just expands outside of prison
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 8: because everyone in life is going through some strongholds they
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 8: need to break.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that true? And if you had to boil it
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: down to the single most are the predominant reason any
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: of the men that you work with in prison and
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: try to turn their lives around why they got there
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: or how they got there? What would you point to,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: Andre if I can even put you on the spot
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: along those lines, Because you know a lot of reasons
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: people get into crime, but I think maybe the deterioration
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: of the family. I know drugs are quite often involved,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: but what drives a person to crime in them for
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: the most part that you've seen.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 8: Is exactly what you said. That stronghold is extremely deep,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 8: that upbringing death surrounding they I talk to kids even
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 8: at are ten years old, and we've always asked how
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 8: did you start getting hooked on drug? And they say, oh, wow,
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 8: I learned it from my dad or my mom or
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 8: an adult. And so family is a key component on
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 8: individuals that are incarcerated and a.
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  Speaker 2: Key component to success as well. Strong family is more
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: likely to lead to success regardless of income. I would argue, correct, Andre, correct, correct, You.
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  Speaker 8: Be surprised I've seen strong families break through the utmost
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 8: just strong holds just because they have that family support.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 8: So it can work both ways.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and sometimes in the absence of family, that's where
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: faith can be a great substitute. There is still some
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: hope and some reason to be a strong, positive, crime
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: free individual. All right, brother Dre, let's pivot over here.
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  Speaker 2: We had the whole problem in the lawsuit that ensued
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: as a result of Chief Washington, the fire chief getting dismissed.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: Looks like they're going to be writing a pretty big check.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: I think all errors indicate that the city of Cincinnati's
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: on the hook. Now we've got police Chief Threes of
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: Thigi and after the summer violence, she was put on
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: I guess paid administrative leave and was left with a
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: substitute chief. Have you heard a specific reason why they
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: took that action against police Chiefdiji? Because I haven't heard
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: a reason. It's almost as if they said, all right,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: you're off the job, and then they're going to go
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: investigate on why they were moved her from the position.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: Is it like a ready fire aim or Am I
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: missing some of the facts.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 8: No, you're not missing the facts. And this is the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 8: ridiculousness of the city manager and the leadership. It just
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 8: appears that they have blank checks to write for everyone.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 8: And even though I've been outspoken on the leadership of
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 8: Chief Thiji and the way things went, the way that
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 8: the mayor and the city manager have conducted this process
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 8: has just been sloppy across the board. Mike Washington, the
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 8: fire former fire chief, should have never been fired in
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 8: the first place. I mean, there's no reason, no evidence whatsoever,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 8: So to have somebody abuse their authority and consistently abuse
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 8: their authority, it's interesting how the city is okay with
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 8: all these checks that are being written out that they're
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 8: going to have to pay. And at some point it's
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 8: people are gonna have to prove a point to say
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 8: we support this type of nonsense by being silenced, or
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 8: are we just gonna not support the city and move out.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: Well, and I'm sure a lot of people making choices
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: along both of those lines. But you know, the big
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: component and all of this for me is usually and
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: is in this particular case. Why so you can say
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: they're abusing their authority, Yes they are, at least it
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: seems to be so. But if they even if they
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: came out loud and said we have removed Chief Fiji
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: for this or these reasons. At least you could put
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: look to the reasons they cited and say, well, that
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: is beyond your authority. There's no reason to dismiss her
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: for that. Or we could collectively say, you know what,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty good reason. It sounds like you got
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: something to hang your hat on when she ultimately sues
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: you for wrongful termination or reputation violation or something like that.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: Instead we get nothing, and you're not gonna get nothing.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 8: And that's why at the beginning, Let's say you you
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 8: make these decisions. At the beginning, when the majority of
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 8: pleasolice officers said, hey, look, we don't think Chiefdiji is
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 8: the actual best choice, you decide to choose her anyway.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 8: And there are sources that say that Cheryl Long clearly
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 8: clearly stated that this is my pick and I cannot
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 8: get this wrong. Okay, So you fires or put somebody
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 8: on administrative lead that you selected. So you are part
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 8: of the problem. And so I've always been very very
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 8: clear I'm not letting any of them off the hook.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 8: But it still starts with Sheryl Long and where is
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 8: her experience to start to just fire individuals who may
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 8: or may not deserve it and does not do the
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 8: proper investigation. And here we are again with this foolishness,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 8: this nonsense, talking about this going into the new year,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: making more and more payouts on ridiculous information and how
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 8: people leave this city. And plus it was a political
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 8: move during the time, very strategic to get rid of Fiji,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 8: so at have to kind of separate hisself from that process.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like a political motivation. It sounds like a
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: pretty strong argument you're making there, Andre Ewing. I'm just wondering.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about this in the next segment when
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: we continue with Brother Dre. Did Iris Rowley have anything
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: to do with that? And what's with this six hundred
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: and fifty some one thousand dollars ever increasing sweetheart deals
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: she has with the city of Cincinnati And how much
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: controlled and power does she have. It's an unusual thing
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: we've got going on here in the city. Will continue
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: with Brother Dre. Take twenty five right now. If you
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  Speaker 2: Frida Aga much like Todd Senser citizen Watchdog, farmer inspector General.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: He was on the program earlier this week talking about
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: some of the shenanigans going on with city council, the
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: Mayor's office, et cetera. Andrea Ewing brother Dre would like
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: to call him. He calls himself that Andrea Ewing On Facebook,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: he rants regularly, you know about some very important topics
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: in the city. Former law enforcement officer thirty years on
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: the force, might write on that was thirty full years, Andre,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: It was about just.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 8: Short of thirty. So let's just say twenty nine. And
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 8: once you get over the half this thirty.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: Years, there you are. I'll round up for you. And
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: well what it's easy to do with you man?
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: Pivoting over, We talked a little bit about the whole
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: chief situation and the problems with that. Something tells me,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: because she's been around for a long time. She has
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: a very very big contract with the City of Cincinnati,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: and she is a profound critic of law enforcement. You know,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: or I guess iris rollie Andre. They just re upped
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: her contract apparently two days after the election. They didn't
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: want that to be an election issue, so she's got
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: a bigger contract. And I note from prior reporting that
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: I've read around from other news outlets that she directed
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: some of the money to her husband to print T
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: shirts and hoodies and things of that. She hired her
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: son to do some of the work on Government Square
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: with regard to the youth violence, having so a lot
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: of nepotism going on in there, but being a subcontractor
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: not an employee of the city, I guess she's allowed
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: to do that, although it looks terrible. What's your take
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: on her involvement in all this? How did she become
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: such a powerful player in the city and how is
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: it they keep bringing her back year after year after year.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 8: Andre Clear was the start here. Iris Rowley is untouchable,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 8: Okay at this point in the game of things that
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 8: we've witnessed since two thousand and one, in her direct
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 8: involvement with Tim Thomas the shooting, she has not stopped
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 8: from that point. And interesting enough, she has done some
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 8: say good things with police reform, but it has gone
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 8: to a point of being overboard. I've been very vocal
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 8: about saying what exactly is her position? You got to
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 8: remember that Astab got in office strictly from Iris Rowley
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 8: beating the streets for him twice. Okay, she was the
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 8: she was the one who started advocating advocating for AFTAB
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 8: early when he was elected, and he of course hired
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 8: her to city hall.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 8: She's been a consultant for sure long and that's been clear.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 8: And she also was a extreme selection for Chief Aji.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 8: So Iris Rollie right now is above the law and
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 8: she's moving in that same direction. So it doesn't matter
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 8: basically what goes on or what people say, what's her payout,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 8: her husband's getting something. If AFTAB City Manager, council is
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  Speaker 8: allowing it and she and she's a consultant for the city,
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  Speaker 8: then do you look at Iris Rolly or you'd you
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  Speaker 8: look at the leadership that's saying, hey, this is what
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 8: we are giving you the power to do, and no
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  Speaker 8: one's gonna touch you, and you're going to have all
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  Speaker 8: the backing necessary to do whatever you want. And that's
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  Speaker 8: clear and that as obvious in the way that she
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 8: moves and operates.
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  Speaker 2: So because of her, I'll say that we use the
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  Speaker 2: word popularity within a lot of people within the community.
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  Speaker 2: She wields a lot of power over who those folks
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  Speaker 2: in the community vote for I don't understand blind allegiance Andre,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: but that's just apparently the way it is. Now. Considering that, well,
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  Speaker 2: we'll just say we've got some issues with Iris Rolly
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  Speaker 2: in these contracts, and let's just say, the City of
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  Speaker 2: Sinsinaty is this is too much. We're gonna break ties
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  Speaker 2: with her. You know, I know you said she's untouchable,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with you because that's the way it seems.
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  Speaker 2: Does anybody really think if they cut Iris Rolly loose
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  Speaker 2: in advance of that election, that Cory Bowman would be mayor? Now,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, could she go out there and all these
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  Speaker 2: blue Democrat, very blue folks that live in the city,
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  Speaker 2: would they actually listen to her and not vote for
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  Speaker 2: a haveta have provall since he was the only Democrat
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  Speaker 2: on the ticket. That much power?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I'm gonna actually say she has that much power,
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  Speaker 8: you know, to see, she's at every political event, She
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  Speaker 8: has her hand in everything. She has the support of
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  Speaker 8: Damon Lynch has a lot of powerful pastors and business
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  Speaker 8: owners in the city. You don't get to move the
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  Speaker 8: way she moves without having some serious, serious, major players
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  Speaker 8: that are backing you up.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 8: And so when people constantly say, man, how can she
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  Speaker 8: move this way and that way? Hey, guess what if
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  Speaker 8: your big brother says I don't care what you do,
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  Speaker 8: I got you, guess what, you will go in and
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  Speaker 8: bully anybody anytime, anywhere and have a voice in any position.
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  Speaker 8: If you look on any news, speeds or what have you,
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  Speaker 8: IRIS is always in the background somewhere. And so it's
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  Speaker 8: been clear that the aftab the council saying, hey, this
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  Speaker 8: is what We're gonna write you a check to do
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  Speaker 8: these things. But I've always just said, hey, where's the
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  Speaker 8: money going, how is it distributed? Let's see the numbers
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  Speaker 8: of the total success and make sure you're transparent to
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  Speaker 8: the city.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, to show these numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's doing a great job and achieving the
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  Speaker 2: goals that she was paid, that she's being paid to do,
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  Speaker 2: then they should all be walking around trumpeting that. But apparently,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: and this is kind of thing I learned from Todd
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  Speaker 2: Zinzer and others, all the money that goes out to
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: these various very political, non governmental organizations to do work
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  Speaker 2: in the community of whatever variety, nobody's following up the
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: scene if that's even being done. The money goes out.
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  Speaker 2: There's no accountability. It just keeps going out. And I
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: worry about that because when you send out that kind
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: of money on a short budget we've got anyway, maybe
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: that money is going out because it finds a loop
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: right back into the pockets of candidates running for office.
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  Speaker 8: Right there's a lot of issues that's going on, and
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  Speaker 8: I've been clear to say, when you have things that
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  Speaker 8: or this extreme, then maybe a federal audit needs to
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 8: come in and just look at the entire process. Just
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 8: do a federal audit, see where these numbers, this money
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 8: are being moved into certain hands, and get it from
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  Speaker 8: the top down. Because then if you do that, I
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 8: guarantee you once again follow the money, and then you
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 8: will understand exactly how these things are being maneuvered. But
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 8: if no one questions that you can do whatever you
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  Speaker 8: want when you're you're the sole bank in this.
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  Speaker 2: Project, yes you can, Undre A young plause will bring
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  Speaker 2: you back. We'll give you get a comment or two
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  Speaker 2: on speaking of money, Follow the money, a ftab's car
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  Speaker 2: trouble money. Receive the talk station A forty if you
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  Speaker 2: have care see the talk station Brian Thomas with Andrea
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: Ewing Andrea Ewing on Facebook follow him. He's on some
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: excellent terrors and really things that make you go hmm.
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  Speaker 2: He's speaking his heart and mind on matters he's familiar with.
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  Speaker 2: And as we pivot away from Iris, rolly over to
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: Aftab parval I learned from Todd Zenser the other day
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  Speaker 2: when he was on our Citizen Watchdog. He was a
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: former Inspector General for the federal government. We were talking
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: about this very issue Atab missing his car payment and
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: having his car repossessed. Embarrassing, yes, but he mentioned that you,
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: as a federal government employee, they're not allowed to miss
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: their payments because it creates an opportunity for maybe bribery
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: or extortion. So there's good reasons. Do you want your
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: elected officials or those working in government to be free
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: from that possibility. So here we have Aftab Purvoll running
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  Speaker 2: one of the larger cities in the state of Ohio,
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: can't even manage his own finances and a really lame excuse. Andrea,
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  Speaker 2: I know you heard it. He came out and said, well,
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: he had problems with his payment app as if he
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have gotten notices independent of that app that he
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  Speaker 2: was behind in his car payment so much so that
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: they were going to come and repossess his car. What's
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: your take on this, brother, Dre.
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  Speaker 8: That's my take on it. I'm laughing because this is re.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, at the end of the day, how can
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 8: you take care of the city if you can't take
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 8: care of your own home. And it comes down to
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  Speaker 8: the responsibilities of things that are in place. I'm not
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 8: going to give you a pass on that. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: I've never missed the car payment, never and avtab is
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  Speaker 8: in control of way more money than I am, so
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 8: at the end of the day, it was just a
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 8: people can say, an honest mistake. No, it was once
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 8: again neglect, just sloppy what I call bookkeeping. And if
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 8: you can't even manage your own financial account, then I'm
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 8: gonna go back to what I said prior to our conversation.
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  Speaker 8: Let's do an entire federal audit on the money since
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 8: you've been in office, and let's see where the money goes,
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  Speaker 8: because this is just a tell tale of the issues
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  Speaker 8: and what has been involved since you've been in office.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's obviously paid well in mouth he should
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 2: be able to afford a car payment. I don't know
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 2: what his financial situation is, but embarrassing at minimum. So
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: and again lame excuse coming out of the gate after that,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: no follow up either. I haven't heard anybody press them
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: on well did you get any notices? Did they get
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: reach out to you? Your car just was gone one
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  Speaker 2: day and you had no idea ahead of time that
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  Speaker 2: that might happen. I don't buy that for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Andrew another one of your rants December fourth, on affordable housing,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: the Wizard aftab strikes again. What were you ranting on
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: about this one? Andre?
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  Speaker 8: Hey, I've said he's deanly he will look you dead
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 8: in your face and tell you public safety was number one,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 8: two and three on his list, and I know from
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 8: a police officer standpoint that it was not. He only
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 8: came forward on it when he was pushed into a corner.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 8: And the Sarah Heringer situation put everyone on blast. And
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 8: so here we are again with a housing situation. He
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 8: knew this was going to happen, it was already in place.
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  Speaker 8: And if you want to build a house, and it's
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 8: interesting that Corey Bowman actually talked about that how these
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 8: properties are being placed and built and it's just a
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 8: setup for say, here's a affordable housing of six hundred
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 8: a month, but at time when it comes, guess what
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 8: it's going to raise through the roofs. So what if
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 8: he say, Oh, I had absolutely no clue. I'm just
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 8: totally upset. Here we go again. You didn't have a
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 8: clue about your car payment, and now you didn't have
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 8: a clue about something as serious as property in the
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 8: City of Cincinnati that has to come across council when
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 8: your death. I'm not buying it, and the city better
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 8: start paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things that gave Corey Bowman at least
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: some traction was how the mayor treated the Hyde Park
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: residents in the Bond Hill residence with this connected community's nonsense,
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: this one size fits all. You will build in accordance
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: with these very limited standards, or you're not going to
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: build at all. I mean, how do you expect to
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: achieve afordable housing when you don't give neighborhoods the flexibility
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: they need to do what they believe in that is
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: in their best interest. I find that very puzzling.
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 8: Oh, it is very puzzling. And I've already said affordable
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 8: housing is a it's a trick to get other things
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 8: in place. And if you look all across the city,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 8: affordable housing is going to be a thing of the past.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 8: You you can't you can't even get anything that's affordable
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 8: nowadays in the neighborhood. So this is going to backfire.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 8: I've seen it backfire. I've seen how things operate in
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 8: this city, and it's going to get worse. I remember,
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 8: if you can remind me, Brian, what was the the
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 8: train situation downtown that they were trying to promote, and
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 8: they they voted the city voted it down, but over
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 8: time it ended up costing the city millions. Anyway, with
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 8: the streetcar, the streetcar exactly now, when that was going on,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 8: let me tell you something. Let me tell you something,
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 8: and this is this is a fact. When that was
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 8: going on and they said they voted it down, I'm
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 8: doing details downtown Cincinnati and I'm and they're digging up
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 8: the streets. And I asked, what project do you have.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 8: He said, oh, this is the streetcar. I said, well,
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 8: I was voted down. He said, well, he said, that's
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 8: above my pay grade. They told us to start digging.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 8: It's going to get passed. And guess what it got passed.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 8: And that's a fact. That's not that's not something I'm
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 8: sitting here making up. You can go back and look
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 8: at my say details when I was doing as an officer,
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 8: and that was getting placed in before it was passed.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: So the rumors that are swirling, and I've heard from
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: quite a few what I consider connected people that they're
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 2: talking about, at least behind the scenes, a second leg
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: of the street car, even if they deny it, that
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: maybe coming forward at some point. Considering the history we've
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: got with the street car here, Andre.
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, at this point, Brian, what is this city doing.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you this city is in trouble and people
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 8: better pay attention because even in my past posts I
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 8: said you want Gotham City overall, you're going to get
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 8: Gotham City. Whether it's the streetcar, whether it's this crazy
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 8: case going on with Elmwood Jones, theaters and Connie Pillage.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 8: This city is on edge, and you got the Henderson
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 8: case coming up next month. I'm telling you right now, brother, Brian,
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 8: this city is on edge and this is going to
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 8: be a hot mess New Year's and spring and summer
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 8: coming up. Just get ready.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: I wish you had more better news on that one.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: But I can't argue with you on that, Andrea, it
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: does appear that things are heading in that direction on
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: that dismissal that murder case. After all the dispositive evidence
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: and the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, all the appeals
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: that that guy went through, he's on death row thirty years,
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: they ultimately dismiss it. Question, do you think iris Roy
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: had anything to do with that?
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 8: I always ask how did Emwood Jones name even come up?
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 6: What was the.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 8: I know they have the innocence projects and they look
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 8: into evidence or what have you, But how did his
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 8: name even come up? And what's interesting is, of course
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 8: Deeters released the letters that was uh uh that signal
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 8: ninety nine posted as well, and and Deeters has expressed
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 8: his outrage and and even the family had expressed their
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 8: outrage of talking about where they're disappointed, Connie Tilly said, no,
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 8: they are outraged of this. Uh this process. So this
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 8: go once again now opens the door to investigate everything
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 8: that Deaters and his investigative team has touched and to see,
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 8: uh is there any wrongful convictions? Because that's what Connie
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 8: Pillage clearly said that they said, this office got it wrong.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 8: And that's a deep, deep statement.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: Well, it is, most notably considering the appellate record. They
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: took it all the way from the state court through
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: the state process, and the defendant moved over to the
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: federal court and pursued federal processes, and all the courts
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: said no guilty and there was nothing there to even consider.
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 2: So I don't get this, and that's why it's big
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: question mark for me. And that's kind of why I
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: threw the irus' early question because who brought this to
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: their attention? And I believe in that project. I don't
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: think a man should be spending a moment time in jail.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 2: It didn't commit the crime, and let's get him out
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 2: of jail if he was convicted wrongfully. But in this
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: particular case, they just don't have the facts on that one,
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: at least that's my take on it. Most notably after
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: what the Supreme Court Justice Deeter said about when he
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: was Hamilton County prosecutor and how the case was prosecuted.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: Brother dre Andre Ewing Finem on Facebook follow him you'll
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: love his rants. I appreciate you joining the program today
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: and on behalf of my listening audience. Joe Streker, the producer,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: and myself. We all wish you a very very merry
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: Christmas and happy New Year, and I hope I'm looking
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: forward to talking with you in the coming year.
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  Speaker 1: Sir PA.
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  Speaker 8: Likewise, Brian, thank you so much. I appreciate you, and
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 8: you have a peaceful and safe holiday. And all the
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 8: listeners hug and love your family every second that you get.
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  Speaker 2: Amen to that, and I'll underscore it and put it
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: in bold and all caps. Take care of brother Dre.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk again soon. It's eight forty nine fifty five.
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  Speaker 6: Care s