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- 0:00Speaker 1: So close your eyes for a second and just picture
- 0:02Speaker 1: a clock, you know, sitting on a desk.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Okay, I'm picturing it like a standard mechanical clock.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Right exactly, and you can hear that rhythmic mechanical sound. Right.
- 0:12Speaker 1: But and here's the hook. You open the back casing
- 0:16Speaker 1: of this clock. Huh. There is no battery in there,
- 0:20Speaker 1: there's no winding spring, there's definitely no hidden power cable
- 0:25Speaker 1: feeding it electricity.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Right, It's completely isolated.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Completely isolated from literally every energy source in the universe.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Yet the gears are turning. It's ticking perfectly, and not
- 0:36Speaker 1: just for an hour or a day, but like literally forever.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Which is I mean, it completely defies how human intuition works,
- 0:43Speaker 2: and for that matter, how classical physics tells us the
- 0:45Speaker 2: physical world operates.
- 0:46Speaker 1: It really does. I mean it feels like an illusion, right,
- 0:49Speaker 1: or maybe one of those theoretical thought experiments designed to
- 0:51Speaker 1: just torture physics grad students.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the classic impossible scenario.
- 0:56Speaker 1: But the wild thing is, this isn't a thought experiment
- 0:58Speaker 1: anymore at all. We're actually looking at a fundamentally newly
- 1:03Speaker 1: discovered reality today.
- 1:04Speaker 2: We really are.
- 1:05Speaker 1: We're talking about a completely new phase of matter known
- 1:08Speaker 1: as a time crystal, A time crystal. Yeah, and in
- 1:11Speaker 1: this deep dive, we are basically going to tear down
- 1:14Speaker 1: all the assumptions we've held about how the universe is structured,
- 1:17Speaker 1: how matter behaves at its core. And you know what
- 1:20Speaker 1: this actually means for the physical architecture of our future tech.
- 1:25Speaker 2: It's a huge shift. I mean, to really understand the
- 1:28Speaker 2: magnitude of what a time crystal is, we have to
- 1:31Speaker 2: go straight to the bedrock of modern physics, right we
- 1:34Speaker 2: have to completely reevaluate what a phase of matter actually
- 1:38Speaker 2: implies in the first place.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Let's start right there, actually, because just the classification alone
- 1:42Speaker 1: a new phase of matter. For anyone who casually follows
- 1:46Speaker 1: science or just remembers grade school, when we hear phase,
- 1:50Speaker 1: we tend to think of the transition points of a single.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Substance, right, Yeah, like water exactly.
- 1:55Speaker 1: Yeah, water freeze into ice, boils into steam solid liquid gas.
- 1:59Speaker 1: But I mean, this isn't just some quirky, exotic state
- 2:02Speaker 1: of a super cooled liquid or something.
- 2:03Speaker 2: No, not at all.
- 2:05Speaker 1: This is something as fundamental as discovering a completely new
- 2:11Speaker 1: I don't know, a completely new axis on a graph,
- 2:14Speaker 1: like a new primary color.
- 2:16Speaker 2: That's a really good way to put it. Because a
- 2:18Speaker 2: phase of matter is fundamentally about symmetry. It's about symmetry
- 2:21Speaker 2: and organization.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Okay, organization.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Yeah, It actually has very little to do with whether
- 2:26Speaker 2: something feels hard to the touch or wet or whatever.
- 2:29Speaker 2: It's about how the foundational building blocks, the atoms, the molecules,
- 2:33Speaker 2: the ions, how they are constrained by the rules of
- 2:37Speaker 2: their environment. Right, So when a material shifts from a
- 2:40Speaker 2: liquid to a solid, it's actually undergoing this process called
- 2:44Speaker 2: symmetry breaking.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Symmetry breaking. Okay, break that down for me.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Sure, So think about water in a liquid state, the
- 2:50Speaker 2: water molecules can move anywhere, the environment looks basically the
- 2:54Speaker 2: same in every direction. That's a high degree of spatial symmetry.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Right, Because if I'm like swimming in a pool, the
- 2:59Speaker 1: water feels uniform whether I move left, right, up or down,
- 3:02Speaker 1: it's all just water, exactly.
- 3:05Speaker 2: But when that water freezes into ice, those molecules lock
- 3:09Speaker 2: into place. They form a rigid crystalline lattice, so that
- 3:13Speaker 2: continuous spatial symmetry is broken.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Oh, because it's not uniform everywhere anymore.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Right, You can't just move continuously in any direction and
- 3:21Speaker 2: see the exact same thing anymore. You have to move
- 3:24Speaker 2: in these discrete specific jumps from one molecule to the
- 3:27Speaker 2: next to see the pattern repeat. I see, and that restriction,
- 3:31Speaker 2: that specific breaking of spatial symmetry is what literally defines
- 3:35Speaker 2: a spatial crystal. The atoms are organizing existence based on
- 3:39Speaker 2: a repeating pattern in physical space.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Okay, So just to make sure I have this straight. Yeah,
- 3:43Speaker 1: For hundreds of years, every single phase of matter we
- 3:46Speaker 1: have ever cataloged in a textbook, from plasmas to those
- 3:49Speaker 1: weird bosin Stein condensates to just irregular old metals, they
- 3:53Speaker 1: have all been defined by how their atoms organize themselves spatially, Yes, up, down, left, right,
- 3:58Speaker 1: in physical space.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Every single one of them. Until twenty twelve, Enter Frank
- 4:02Speaker 2: willcheck exactly. Frank willcheck. A Nobel laureate. He was basically
- 4:06Speaker 2: just teaching a class on regular spatial crystals, and he
- 4:10Speaker 2: started wondering about the underlying mathematics of these.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Structures, as Nobel laureates do.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Right, just casual musings. But he remembered that relativity teaches
- 4:18Speaker 2: us that space and time are inextricably linked. Right, they
- 4:22Speaker 2: form a single fabric space.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Time, space, time.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Yeah, so willcheck posts this very simple but actually radically
- 4:30Speaker 2: dangerous question, which was he asked, if a lattice of
- 4:34Speaker 2: atoms can break symmetry and form a repeating pattern in space,
- 4:37Speaker 2: why couldn't a lattice of atoms break symmetry and form
- 4:40Speaker 2: a repeating pattern in time?
- 4:42Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, And just like that, the time crystal was hypothesized. Exactly,
- 4:46Speaker 1: a structure that organizes itself, not across the physical dimensions
- 4:50Speaker 1: of the room it's sitting in, but across the dimension
- 4:52Speaker 1: of the seconds taking by on the clock.
- 4:54Speaker 2: That's it. But when Wilchick published his theory, I mean,
- 4:57Speaker 2: the physics community's initial response was fierce pushback.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Oh I bet it sounds crazy. It did.
- 5:02Speaker 2: By twenty fifteen, this physicist named Patrick Bruno even published
- 5:07Speaker 2: a rigorous mathematical proof, seemingly demonstrating that time crystals were
- 5:12Speaker 2: flat out impossible in a system at thermal equilibrium.
- 5:16Speaker 1: He basically tried to kill the theory.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like the idea was completely dead in
- 5:20Speaker 2: the water.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Because it just sounded too much like a paradox, right,
- 5:24Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about somebody repeating in time rather
- 5:27Speaker 1: than space. Let's actually look at the mechanics of that
- 5:29Speaker 1: for a second.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Sure, let's do it.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Because if I have a normal spatial crystal like a diamond,
- 5:34Speaker 1: I can put it under an electron microscope and I
- 5:37Speaker 1: look at it and I see a carbon atom. Right.
- 5:39Speaker 1: Then I pan the microscope a few nanometers to the
- 5:42Speaker 1: right and boom, I see another carbon atom. Pan again
- 5:45Speaker 1: another one. The pattern repeats across physical distance.
- 5:48Speaker 2: That's a regular crystal lattice.
- 5:50Speaker 1: So how do we translate that lattice idea to the
- 5:53Speaker 1: dimension of time? Like, is it like a heartbeat?
- 5:55Speaker 2: Yeah, let's use your diamond under the microscope analogy. But
- 5:58Speaker 2: instead of moving the lens to the left or the right,
- 6:01Speaker 2: you lock the microscope in place. You don't move it
- 6:03Speaker 2: at all.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Okay, microscope is locked.
- 6:05Speaker 2: You focus on a single cluster of atoms and you
- 6:07Speaker 2: just wait. At second one, you observe the atoms in
- 6:11Speaker 2: a specific physical configuration. Let's call it state A.
- 6:14Speaker 1: State A.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's say in state A, their quantum spins
- 6:18Speaker 2: are all pointing.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Up and just for you listening. Quantum spin is basically
- 6:22Speaker 1: the intrinsic angular momentum of the particle, which essentially makes
- 6:25Speaker 1: them act like tiny bar magnets.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Right correct, Yes, so at second one the magnets are
- 6:30Speaker 2: pointing up. Now at second two, without you doing anything
- 6:34Speaker 2: at all to extract or add energy to the system,
- 6:37Speaker 2: the magnets flip.
- 6:38Speaker 1: They flip on their own.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Yes, they flip to point down. We'll call that state B.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Then at second three they flip back to state A,
- 6:45Speaker 2: pointing up again.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Oh wow.
- 6:47Speaker 2: This oscillation continues on a rigid, unbreakable rhythm. The atomic
- 6:52Speaker 2: structure is performing the synchronized dance, this relentless flip flopping
- 6:56Speaker 2: pattern as time naturally ticks forward.
- 6:59Speaker 1: The pattern isn't the physical spacing. The pattern is the
- 7:02Speaker 1: passage of time itself exactly.
- 7:04Speaker 2: The lattice isn't made of carbon atoms spaced and nanometer
- 7:07Speaker 2: apart in space. The lattice is made of states changing
- 7:10Speaker 2: a second apart in time.
- 7:11Speaker 1: That is mind bending.
- 7:12Speaker 2: A regular crystal spatial lattice dictates where an atom will
- 7:16Speaker 2: be located, but a time crystal's temporal lattice dictates when
- 7:20Speaker 2: an atom will change its state.
- 7:21Speaker 1: But wait, if the atomic spins are constantly flipping from
- 7:25Speaker 1: up to down, state eight to state B and back again,
- 7:28Speaker 1: it's fundamentally in action, right, it's movement. It is movement, Yes,
- 7:31Speaker 1: and this has to be where we'll check ran into
- 7:35Speaker 1: that wall of criticism and why Patrick Bruno wrote that
- 7:37Speaker 1: mathematical proof because in our universe, as far as I
- 7:40Speaker 1: understand it, movement always requires an energy exchange.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Always. It is the most stubborn inescapable law of physics.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Thermodynamics dictates that if something is moving, if something is
- 7:52Speaker 2: fundamentally changing states, it is either consuming energy or dissipating
- 7:56Speaker 2: energy in the form of heat.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Right, Like, if I roll a marble across a hardwood floor,
- 8:00Speaker 1: it's pushing air out of the way, it's rubbing against
- 8:02Speaker 1: the wood grain. Friction steals its kinetic energy, turns it
- 8:05Speaker 1: into heat, and eventually the marble stops. Exactly, even in
- 8:09Speaker 1: a vacuum, if a machine is moving, it's doing work.
- 8:12Speaker 1: So a structure that just oscillates back and forth forever
- 8:15Speaker 1: that sounds dangerously close to a perpetual motion machine.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Which are fundamentally impossible.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Right We've all been told that since high school.
- 8:21Speaker 2: Yeah, but a perpetual motion machine implies a system that
- 8:25Speaker 2: can do continuous work like generate output without any energy input. Time.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Crystals do not do that, Okay, So how do they
- 8:33Speaker 1: pull off this stable motion without extra energy.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Then to understand how they achieve it, we have to
- 8:38Speaker 2: look at the concept of the ground state.
- 8:41Speaker 1: The ground state, which is the absolute lowest energy state
- 8:44Speaker 1: a quantum mechanical system can achieve.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Exactly. Think of your marble again, but this time it's
- 8:50Speaker 2: resting perfectly still at the very bottom of a perfectly
- 8:53Speaker 2: smooth curved bowl. Okay, it has zero kinetic energy because
- 8:57Speaker 2: it's not moving, and it has expended all its potential
- 9:00Speaker 2: energy just getting to the bottom. It literally cannot roll
- 9:03Speaker 2: up the sides of the bowl without an external push.
- 9:06Speaker 2: It is frozen.
- 9:07Speaker 1: That makes sense, right.
- 9:09Speaker 2: In classical mechanics, the ground state always equals perfect static
- 9:13Speaker 2: stillness always. But and here's the paradigm shift. A time
- 9:17Speaker 2: crystal is a quantum mini body system whose fundamental ground
- 9:21Speaker 2: state actually includes this endless oscillation.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Wait. Wait, so it is moving, but it is already
- 9:27Speaker 1: at the bottom of the bowl. Yes, it literally cannot
- 9:29Speaker 1: give up any energy to friction or heat because it
- 9:33Speaker 1: has no spare energy left to give.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Precisely, it cannot dissipate heat because it is already at
- 9:38Speaker 2: its absolute minimum energy threshold.
- 9:41Speaker 1: That is, I mean, that's just crazy to wrap your
- 9:43Speaker 1: head around.
- 9:44Speaker 2: It is, and it's why you can't hook a microscopic
- 9:47Speaker 2: turbine up to a time crystal to generate free electricity.
- 9:49Speaker 2: The moment you try to extract energy from it, you
- 9:52Speaker 2: perturb it, you collapse the system.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Ah, So no infinite free energy to power the world.
- 9:58Speaker 2: No, Sadly, it is a close loop of dynamic movement
- 10:01Speaker 2: that requires zero input and yields zero output. It just pulses.
- 10:07Speaker 1: To visualize this for everyone listening, imagine a perfectly spinning
- 10:10Speaker 1: top on a completely frictionless surface, right in a total vacuum.
- 10:15Speaker 1: But instead of just a smooth, uniform spin, the top
- 10:18Speaker 1: is structurally morphing, right.
- 10:19Speaker 2: It's changing, spanning and.
- 10:21Speaker 1: Contracting, ticking back and forth like a metronome forever. And
- 10:24Speaker 1: it does this completely for free.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It does, and that free motion is what forces us
- 10:29Speaker 2: to confront Emyinther's theorem, which is honestly arguably one of
- 10:33Speaker 2: the most beautiful and terrifying mathematical frameworks in all of
- 10:37Speaker 2: theoretical physics.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Okay, Nether's theorem, I love this part. This basically connects
- 10:42Speaker 1: symmetry to conservation laws. Right. It's the mathematical rule book
- 10:47Speaker 1: that tells the universe exactly how to balance its checkbook.
- 10:50Speaker 2: That's a perfect analogy. So back in nineteen fifteen, Emmy
- 10:53Speaker 2: Nator proved mathematically that every continuous symmetry in nature corresponds
- 10:58Speaker 2: directly to a fun conservation law.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Okay, give me an example of that.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Sure, So if physical laws are the same regardless of
- 11:05Speaker 2: where you are in space, meaning space is symmetric, that
- 11:09Speaker 2: directly mathematically results in the conservation of momentum.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Because the universe doesn't care if a billiard ball collusion
- 11:14Speaker 1: happens in Tokyo or on the moon. Yeah, right, the
- 11:16Speaker 1: physics are the same, so the momentum before and after
- 11:19Speaker 1: the collision.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Has to be equal, exactly and more profoundly for our
- 11:23Speaker 2: discussion not there also proved that if the laws of
- 11:26Speaker 2: physics are symmetric over time, that directly results in the
- 11:29Speaker 2: conservation of energy.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Time symmetry equals conservation of energy.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Right. Time translation symmetry means an object at rest today
- 11:37Speaker 2: will behave exactly the same way if you look at
- 11:38Speaker 2: it tomorrow, assuming no energy is added or removed.
- 11:41Speaker 1: A rock is a rock on Tuesday. It is still
- 11:43Speaker 1: a rock on Wednesday.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Exactly because the rock exists in a state of continuous
- 11:49Speaker 2: time translation symmetry, its fundamental resting properties do not change
- 11:53Speaker 2: as time flows continuously forward. But now apply this logic
- 11:57Speaker 2: to the time crystal. Time crystal, at rest in its
- 12:01Speaker 2: ground state with absolutely no external energy acting upon it,
- 12:05Speaker 2: spontaneously decides to be in state A at second one
- 12:08Speaker 2: and state B at second two.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Oh, it broke time translation symmetry.
- 12:13Speaker 2: It broke it. It decided to look fundamentally different depending
- 12:16Speaker 2: on when you look at it.
- 12:17Speaker 1: But wait a minute. If no, there's Kivitu's theorem says
- 12:20Speaker 1: that time symmetry is what guarantees the conservation of energy,
- 12:23Speaker 1: and a time crystal inherently breaks time symmetry. Does that
- 12:27Speaker 1: mean a time crystal violates the conservation of energy?
- 12:30Speaker 2: And that is the billion dollar question.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Because if energy isn't conserved, the entire discipline of physics
- 12:35Speaker 1: collapses overnight.
- 12:36Speaker 2: That is the exact paradox that made theorists think Willchick
- 12:40Speaker 2: was wrong in the first place, and it's exactly why
- 12:43Speaker 2: we have to draw a hard line between continuous time
- 12:46Speaker 2: translation symmetry and discrete time translation symmetry.
- 12:50Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for me. What's the difference between
- 12:52Speaker 1: continuous and discrete in this context.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Imagine dragging your finger continuously across a smooth, unbroken pane.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Of c glofe okay, feeling smooth glass.
- 13:02Speaker 2: That is continuous symmetry. Every single point feels exactly the
- 13:05Speaker 2: same as you drag your finger. Now, instead of glass,
- 13:08Speaker 2: imagine running your finger over a picket fence.
- 13:11Speaker 1: You feel would that empty gap? Would then empty gap?
- 13:14Speaker 2: Yes, that is discrete symmetry. It only repeats its specific
- 13:17Speaker 2: set intervals.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Ah. So theorists realized a time crystal couldn't exist as
- 13:22Speaker 1: a continuous system because that would violate energy conservation entirely.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Right. It would heat up and basically destroy itself in
- 13:29Speaker 2: an instant, which is what Patrick Bruno's proof mathematically demonstrated.
- 13:32Speaker 2: He was right about continuous systems, but there was a loophole,
- 13:35Speaker 2: a massive loophole. In twenty fifteen, theoretical physicists like Norman
- 13:40Speaker 2: Yao at Berkeley and a few others they realized something.
- 13:43Speaker 2: They asked, what if the time crystal wasn't a closed
- 13:47Speaker 2: continuous system. What if it was a driven quantum system?
- 13:50Speaker 1: A driven system meaning a system subjected to a periodic
- 13:53Speaker 1: pulsing energy input.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Yes, these are known as fucase systems.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, if you're pulsing it with energy from
- 13:59Speaker 1: the outside, how is that a time crystal doesn't. A
- 14:03Speaker 1: time crystal rely on being in its ground state, completely
- 14:06Speaker 1: stable without absorbing energy.
- 14:08Speaker 2: And this is the utter genius of the loophole. The
- 14:10Speaker 2: scientists propose using a laser to pulse a chain of ions.
- 14:14Speaker 2: The laser provides a rhythmic external drive, basically like someone
- 14:18Speaker 2: pushing a child on a playground.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Swing, push, push, push. Right.
- 14:21Speaker 2: But here is where the bizarre quantum magic comes in.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Because of a specific phenomenon called many body localization or MBL,
- 14:28Speaker 2: the atoms in the crystal fundamentally refuse to absorb the
- 14:31Speaker 2: energy from the laser.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Many body localization MBL. I know, this is the secret
- 14:38Speaker 1: sauce that makes physical time crystals actually possible in a lab.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Walk me through the actual mechanics of how this localization
- 14:45Speaker 1: acts as an energy shield.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Okay, So normally, if you shoot a laser at a
- 14:49Speaker 2: bunch of atoms, they absorb the photons, they get excited,
- 14:52Speaker 2: they start jiggling around, and the material heats up. Right.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Yeah, the energy disperses throughout the system exactly.
- 14:58Speaker 2: That leads to thermal equilibrium. MBO relies on circumventing that
- 15:02Speaker 2: entirely by introducing extreme, meticulously engineered disorder into the quantum system.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Wait, disorder, You intentionally make the internal structure of the
- 15:11Speaker 1: material chaotic.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Highly chaotic. You scramble the interactions between the atoms so
- 15:16Speaker 2: thoroughly that the particles get mathematically stuck a duck. Yeah,
- 15:20Speaker 2: they literally cannot share energy with their neighbors anymore. The
- 15:23Speaker 2: entire thermalization process is completely halted. So you have this
- 15:26Speaker 2: pulsing laser hitting the system, but the disorder traps the
- 15:29Speaker 2: atoms in a localized state. They become immune to the
- 15:32Speaker 2: heat of the laser.
- 15:33Speaker 1: So they're essentially wearing quantum noise canceling headphones. The lasers
- 15:38Speaker 1: just screaming at them, bombarding them with energy, but they
- 15:41Speaker 1: just don't absorb it.
- 15:42Speaker 2: That's a great analogy. And because they don't absorb the
- 15:45Speaker 2: energy and heat up into a chaotic mess, they are
- 15:48Speaker 2: able to achieve a synchronized coherent quantum state.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with you.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Now Here is where the discrete time translation symmetry is
- 15:56Speaker 2: finally broken. Let's say you pulse that driving laser every
- 16:00Speaker 2: ten microseconds. The laser is basically yelling at the atoms flip, flip,
- 16:04Speaker 2: flip every ten microseconds.
- 16:06Speaker 1: So the atoms flip every ten microseconds, right matching.
- 16:08Speaker 2: The laser No, and this is the defining signature of
- 16:12Speaker 2: the time crystal. The atoms respond at a lower frequency.
- 16:16Speaker 2: They might decide to flip every twenty microseconds. The driving
- 16:20Speaker 2: force operates at period T. The material responds at period
- 16:25Speaker 2: two T or maybe three T.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Like pushing the swing. You push the swing every one second,
- 16:29Speaker 1: but the swing only goes back and forth every two
- 16:31Speaker 1: seconds exactly.
- 16:32Speaker 2: The material is taking an external rhythm and spontaneously generating
- 16:36Speaker 2: its own, slower, infinitely stable internal rhythm.
- 16:40Speaker 1: It broke the time symmetry of the laser pulse, it
- 16:43Speaker 1: broke discrete time translation symmetry.
- 16:45Speaker 2: And once this theoretical framework of flowkes systems and many
- 16:49Speaker 2: body localization was published, I mean the race was officially
- 16:53Speaker 2: on to physically build one of these things, which.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Brings us to the actual lab experiments. This is where
- 16:58Speaker 1: it gets real. Is in twenty seventeen, two entirely different
- 17:02Speaker 1: research groups managed to create a time crystal within just
- 17:06Speaker 1: weeks of each other, and they use completely different methods.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an incredible moment in physics. You had
- 17:12Speaker 2: Chrismunro's lab at the University of Maryland and Mikhael Luken's
- 17:15Speaker 2: lab over at Harvard.
- 17:16Speaker 1: And their approaches highlight just how fundamental this new phase
- 17:20Speaker 1: of matter is, right because they achieved the exact same
- 17:23Speaker 1: symmetry breaking physics using wildly different architectures. Absolutely, let's look
- 17:28Speaker 1: at Monroe's set up at Maryland first, because honestly, it
- 17:31Speaker 1: sounds like something straight out of a supervillain's layer. They
- 17:34Speaker 1: used a chain of ytterbium ions.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Terbium yeah, okay, so they trapped ten of these yderbium
- 17:40Speaker 2: ions inside a vacuum chamber using highly highly calibrated electromagnetic fields,
- 17:45Speaker 2: just floating there, just suspended in nothingness, forming a one
- 17:48Speaker 2: dimensional spatial chain. Then they used two separate optical lasers.
- 17:53Speaker 2: One laser was used to create a magnetic field that
- 17:56Speaker 2: essentially communicated with the quantum spins of those etobium ions,
- 18:01Speaker 2: entangling them.
- 18:03Speaker 1: And entanglement meaning the quantum state of one ion is
- 18:06Speaker 1: directly tied to the state of another, no matter the distance.
- 18:09Speaker 1: They act as a single unified quantum system.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Yes, so they're all tangled together. Then the second laser
- 18:16Speaker 2: was the driving force. They pulsed the second laser to
- 18:19Speaker 2: continuously try and flip the spins.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Of the ions, like pushing the swing exactly.
- 18:23Speaker 2: But to prevent the system from just absorbing all that
- 18:26Speaker 2: laser energy in melting, they programmed the first laser to
- 18:29Speaker 2: introduce that crucial disorder, the many body localization.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Right, So they intentionally fired random chaotic interference into the
- 18:37Speaker 1: chain to lock the atoms in place. They wouldn't heat.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Up, you got it. So they pulsed the driving laser
- 18:42Speaker 2: over and over, and exactly as the math predicted, the
- 18:44Speaker 2: terbium ions began oscillating. They flipped their spins, forming a
- 18:48Speaker 2: perfectly repeating temporal lattice at exactly half the frequency of
- 18:52Speaker 2: the laser chilses. The period doubled, the period doubled, the
- 18:56Speaker 2: discrete time symmetry was broken. The Marylynd team had created
- 19:00Speaker 2: a physical time crystal.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And while Monroe is doing this crazy vacuum chamber
- 19:05Speaker 1: setup with lasers and suspended yeterbium, Lucan's team at Harvard
- 19:10Speaker 1: is doing an inside a literal diamond.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Yeah, Lucan's team used a completely different architecture, so a
- 19:16Speaker 2: diamond is a very rigid carbon lattice, but natural diamonds
- 19:20Speaker 2: have flaws in them. Sometimes a carbon atom is missing
- 19:23Speaker 2: and a nitrogen atom slips into the lattice.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Nearby, Okay, a flaw.
- 19:26Speaker 2: This is called a nitrogen vacancy center. And these centers
- 19:30Speaker 2: happen to have their own isolated quantum spins.
- 19:33Speaker 1: So insteative suspending ions in a vacuum. Like the Maryland team,
- 19:36Speaker 1: the Harvard team basically just used the rigid physical structure
- 19:39Speaker 1: of a diamond to hold their quantum particles in place.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Exactly. It's brilliant. They took a diamond that was heavily
- 19:45Speaker 2: doped with these nitrogen impurities. And here's the best part.
- 19:48Speaker 2: The impurities themselves provided the necessary disorder for many body localization.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Oh, they didn't even need a separate laser to create
- 19:56Speaker 1: the chaos.
- 19:57Speaker 2: No, the chaotic natural flaw and the diamond's physical structure
- 20:02Speaker 2: naturally trapped the energy. So they blasted the diamond with
- 20:05Speaker 2: microwave pulses to flip the spins, and they observed the
- 20:08Speaker 2: exact same phenomenon.
- 20:10Speaker 1: The time crystal signature YEAP.
- 20:12Speaker 2: The nitrogen vacancy centers oscillated at a sub harmonic frequency
- 20:17Speaker 2: compared to the microwave pulses, two vastly different environments the
- 20:21Speaker 2: exact same new phase of matter.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Okay, but it's important to note for you listening, both
- 20:27Speaker 1: of those experiments in twenty seventeen were incredibly fragile. Like
- 20:30Speaker 1: they proved the physics work. Yes, but the time crystals
- 20:33Speaker 1: only lasted for a tiny, tiny fraction of a second
- 20:36Speaker 1: before the guantum states degraded.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Right, the environment still found a way to bleed in
- 20:41Speaker 2: and ruin the symmetry.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Which brings us to the heavy hitter. Twenty twenty one,
- 20:45Speaker 1: Google's Quantum AI division teams up with physicists from Stanford
- 20:48Speaker 1: and Princeton and they bring out the Sycamore quantum processor.
- 20:52Speaker 2: The Google Sycamore experiment was an absolute watershed moment because
- 20:56Speaker 2: it moved the time crystal from being a bespoke, highly
- 20:59Speaker 2: specialized lage laboratory anomaly into the realm of actual programmble
- 21:03Speaker 2: quantum computing.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Right. Because Sycamore is a superconducting quantum processor, it operates
- 21:09Speaker 1: at temperatures literally colder than deep space, utilizing macroscopic superconducting
- 21:14Speaker 1: circuits as quibbets quibits. Yeah, and just a quick refresher
- 21:18Speaker 1: equibit being a quantum bit. A regular classical computer uses
- 21:22Speaker 1: bits right transistors that are either open or closed one
- 21:26Speaker 1: or zero. E quibbit utilizes quantum superposition to be a
- 21:31Speaker 1: very complex combination of one to zero simultaneously, which.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Gives it immense processing power. So Google used twenty of
- 21:38Speaker 2: Sycamore's quibits to simulate the precise conditions of a time crystal.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Because a quantum processor is inherently designed to manipulate quantum
- 21:46Speaker 2: states with extreme precision, they could perfectly calibrate the exact
- 21:50Speaker 2: amount of disorder needed for the many body localization.
- 21:52Speaker 1: They can dial in the chaos exactly, and.
- 21:54Speaker 2: They could perfectly tune the microwave pulses driving the system.
- 21:57Speaker 1: And because they were actually using a quantum computer to
- 22:00Speaker 1: build it, they could watch the time crystal self correct
- 22:02Speaker 1: in real time.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Yes, and that is the most crucial part of the
- 22:05Speaker 2: twenty twenty one experiment, because the true phase of matter
- 22:08Speaker 2: has to be robust. If you poke a block of
- 22:10Speaker 2: ice with a needle, it doesn't instantly sublimate into steam.
- 22:14Speaker 2: It resists small perturbations. So the Google team intentionally introduced
- 22:20Speaker 2: errors into the microwave pulses.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Like they tried to mess it up on purpose.
- 22:23Speaker 2: On purpose. They didn't flip the quivts of perfect one
- 22:26Speaker 2: hundred and eighty degrees. They flipped them, say one hundred
- 22:29Speaker 2: and seventy five degrees.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Give it a sloppy rhythm.
- 22:31Speaker 2: And the time crystal ignored the errors completely. The quivits absorbed.
- 22:36Speaker 2: The sloppy pulses utilize the many body localization to trap
- 22:39Speaker 2: that excess energy and maintain their perfect sub harmonic oscillation.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Anyway, the temporal lattice held its structure.
- 22:46Speaker 2: It held perfectly. It was an error correcting macroscopic quantum state.
- 22:51Speaker 1: An error correcting macroscopic quantum state. Let's pivot to what
- 22:55Speaker 1: this actually means for the future, because I mean, this
- 22:57Speaker 1: phrase is exactly the holy grail that computer scientists have
- 23:00Speaker 1: been hunting for. It really is the theoretical physics of symmetry.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Breaking is fascinating, sure, but time crystals are basically the
- 23:08Speaker 1: architectural skeleton key for quantum computing, aren't.
- 23:11Speaker 2: They They could be. To really appreciate the utility of
- 23:15Speaker 2: a time crystal, here, we have to look at why
- 23:17Speaker 2: quantum computing has been stuck in what we call the
- 23:20Speaker 2: ni s q era, the noisy intermediate scale quantum era.
- 23:24Speaker 2: In ice Q, we have built quantum computers. They do work.
- 23:27Speaker 2: They can perform specific calculations in minutes that would take
- 23:31Speaker 2: classical supercomputers ten thousand years.
- 23:34Speaker 1: The processing power is almost unfathomable. We're talking about simulating
- 23:38Speaker 1: complex protein folding to cure diseases, optimizing global logistics networks instantly, Yeah,
- 23:44Speaker 1: cracking modern encryption protocols in an afternoon, all of that.
- 23:47Speaker 2: But they are currently paralyzed by an opponent called decoherence.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Decoherence the enemy of quantum.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Stakes exactly equipit relies on superposition and entanglement to perform
- 23:57Speaker 2: those calculations. But these quantum states are arguing, believe, the
- 24:00Speaker 2: most delicate phenomena in the universe. If a kolbit interacts
- 24:03Speaker 2: with a single stray photon, or a microscopic fluctuation in
- 24:06Speaker 2: the magnetic field, or a tiny variance in thermal radiation,
- 24:10Speaker 2: the quantum state just collapses. The superposition is destroyed, gone,
- 24:14Speaker 2: the quipit goes from being a magical quantum processor back
- 24:18Speaker 2: to just a boring classical zero or one. The computer
- 24:21Speaker 2: literally gets amnesia mid calculation.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I always think of a complex quantum calculation like a
- 24:26Speaker 1: massive symphony orchestra.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Oh that's a good analogy, right.
- 24:29Speaker 1: So you have a hundred musicians, your equibits, all playing
- 24:33Speaker 1: highly intricate, heavily entangled pieces of music together. They have
- 24:37Speaker 1: to be perfectly synchronized. But the concert hall is filled
- 24:41Speaker 1: with audience members coughing, dropping programs, whispering.
- 24:45Speaker 2: The environmental noise exactly.
- 24:47Speaker 1: The environmental noise leaks onto the stage. One violinist loses
- 24:50Speaker 1: her place because of a cough, which throws off the cellist,
- 24:53Speaker 1: which cascades through the entire orchestra, and suddenly the beautiful
- 24:57Speaker 1: symphony collapses into just noise, that is decoherence.
- 25:01Speaker 2: That is exactly what happens. And the current solution to
- 25:04Speaker 2: this has basically been trying to build better soundproofing, right.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Right, like cryogenic dilution refrigerators, cooling the processors to basically absolute.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Zero, heavy electromagnetic shielding. We try to completely isolate the
- 25:16Speaker 2: cudits from the universe. But the problem is the universe
- 25:19Speaker 2: always finds a way in. You cannot isolate a system perfectly.
- 25:22Speaker 2: It's impossible.
- 25:23Speaker 1: So what's the new paradigm.
- 25:25Speaker 2: The new paradigm is fault tolerance. And error correction. What
- 25:29Speaker 2: if instead of trying to silence the audience, which is impossible,
- 25:33Speaker 2: you just give the orchestra an unignorable, indestructible metronome.
- 25:37Speaker 1: A conductor whose rhythm fundamentally cannot be broken by a
- 25:41Speaker 1: cough or a dropped program.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Exactly, because a time crystal is a topological phase of
- 25:46Speaker 2: matter protected by its own quantum disorder, its rhythmic oscillation
- 25:50Speaker 2: is utterly immune to small environmental noises. Remember the Google
- 25:54Speaker 2: experiment we just talked about.
- 25:55Speaker 1: They gave the time crystal sloppy pulses, and it just ignored.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Them, right, It maintained it's rigid temporal lattice anyway.
- 26:02Speaker 1: So how do you actually pair this indestructible metronome with
- 26:06Speaker 1: the fragile quibits like are we building the actual process
- 26:09Speaker 1: or out of time crystals?
- 26:10Speaker 2: The idea is that you embed the computational quibits within
- 26:14Speaker 2: the temporal structure of the time crystal itself. The rigid,
- 26:18Speaker 2: repetitive oscillation of the time crystal basically acts as a
- 26:21Speaker 2: background stabilizing field. If you entangle the quantum information you
- 26:26Speaker 2: are trying to process with the robust time translation symmetry,
- 26:30Speaker 2: breaking rhythm of the crystal, The fragile data becomes shielded, so.
- 26:34Speaker 1: The quibbits are literally forced to march to the unbreakable
- 26:37Speaker 1: beat of the time crystal. Precisely so. A stray photon
- 26:40Speaker 1: hits the system trying to knock a quibit out of superposition,
- 26:44Speaker 1: but the time crystal's lattice is so rigid and stable
- 26:47Speaker 1: that it just absorbs the perturbation and forces the quibit
- 26:50Speaker 1: back to alignment.
- 26:51Speaker 2: That's the theory. The time crystal acts as an autonomous quantum.
- 26:55Speaker 1: Error corrector autonomous so it just does it on its
- 26:58Speaker 1: own right.
- 26:59Speaker 2: It doesn't require a massive, separate classical supercomputer to constantly
- 27:03Speaker 2: monitor the quibbots and fix errors as they happen, which
- 27:06Speaker 2: is how classical error correction works, and it's incredibly resource intensive.
- 27:10Speaker 2: The time crystal material itself simply by existing in its
- 27:13Speaker 2: ground state oscillation continuously shepherds the quibots back into coherence.
- 27:18Speaker 2: It's passive stabilization. We are literally using a bizarre quirk
- 27:22Speaker 2: of space time geometry, the fact that matter can crystallize
- 27:26Speaker 2: across time to cage the fragility of quantum mechanics.
- 27:30Speaker 1: It is the ultimate application of what was once just
- 27:33Speaker 1: abstract theoretical physics. I mean, we discovered a completely new
- 27:37Speaker 1: way the universe organizes existence, and within a single decade
- 27:41Speaker 1: we are figuring out how to use that organization to
- 27:44Speaker 1: protect information from entropy.
- 27:47Speaker 2: It's staggering. I mean we started today by looking at
- 27:49Speaker 2: a concept that literally felt like science fiction, a ticking
- 27:52Speaker 2: clock with no battery that just ticks forever. We tore
- 27:55Speaker 2: down the entire definition of a phase of matter, stripping
- 27:58Speaker 2: away our reliance on physical space and realizing that lattices
- 28:02Speaker 2: can exist entirely in the dimension of time.
- 28:04Speaker 1: We weeded through the paradoxes of stable motion without extra
- 28:07Speaker 1: energy too, understanding how many body localization prevents a driven
- 28:11Speaker 1: quantum system from ever reaching thermal equilibrium, which is what
- 28:14Speaker 1: allows it to spontaneously break discrete time translation symmetry in
- 28:18Speaker 1: the first place. And we trace the timeline from Frank
- 28:21Speaker 1: Wilchek's very controversial theory back in twenty twelve, past the
- 28:25Speaker 1: mathematical proofs that tried to kill it, all the way
- 28:28Speaker 1: to the laser driven heterbium ions in Maryland and the
- 28:32Speaker 1: superconducting sycamore processor at Google.
- 28:35Speaker 2: And we arrived at the threshold of the next technological
- 28:38Speaker 2: epoch where these impossible, endlessly ticking crystals might provide the
- 28:42Speaker 2: exact architectural stability required to finally bring quantum computing out
- 28:46Speaker 2: of the laboratory and into practical reality.
- 28:49Speaker 1: But you know, the science of time crystals doesn't just
- 28:51Speaker 1: give us a new technological tool. It kind of changes
- 28:54Speaker 1: our fundamental relationship with reality itself.
- 28:57Speaker 2: It really does.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Consider the fact that something this profound, a phase of
- 29:00Speaker 1: matter that completely redefines the geometry of time, was completely
- 29:04Speaker 1: invisible to us just a few years ago. It existed
- 29:07Speaker 1: entirely in the blind spots of our mathematics.
- 29:10Speaker 2: It forces a necessary humility upon the scientific community, I think,
- 29:13Speaker 2: because if matter can structure itself in a dimension we
- 29:16Speaker 2: previously thought was merely a linear backdrop to the physical universe,
- 29:20Speaker 2: and if it possesses properties that blatantly violate classical laws
- 29:23Speaker 2: of equilibrium.
- 29:24Speaker 1: It makes you wonder exactly.
- 29:26Speaker 2: It leaves you with this lingering question, how much of
- 29:28Speaker 2: our everyday observable reality is just one incredibly limited, specific
- 29:33Speaker 2: phase of a vastly more complex, deeply hidden cosmic architecture.