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- 0:03Morgan Stanley officially launched Bitcoin trading to
- 0:06their clients this week. And we know that Morgan Stanley
- 0:10is pushing Bitcoin to their $9 trillion of assets that they
- 0:14hold is absolutely huge. But I think there's a lot more
- 0:19to this. Obviously, since BlackRock
- 0:22launch their ETF in January of 2024, we are now finally
- 0:28witnessing the Wall Street competition over Bitcoin.
- 0:32They are coming in heavy. They want their share of the
- 0:35pie. But this executive at Morgan
- 0:38Stanley thinks that the next 18 months will absolutely change
- 0:42Bitcoin forever. So let's hear him out.
- 0:45This was at consensus pretty interesting take here.
- 0:48Obviously, guys, I know you, I already know where you're coming
- 0:50from. You're like, I don't care what
- 0:52Wall Street says about Bitcoin, I get it.
- 0:56But they're here and they are not afraid of the quote crypto
- 1:00winter. So let's check this out.
- 1:04These that can harden that infrastructure.
- 1:06You know, you're just putting your clients at risk.
- 1:08And that gets back to the original challenge, which is
- 1:11making sure we don't lose people's money.
- 1:12So security trust, which can come from being public in
- 1:15nature. One final question, one
- 1:19predictional message over the next 1824 months, I think
- 1:24everything is going to move a lot faster than people are
- 1:26think, think it's going to move. I think, you know, if people
- 1:30look at the crypto winter and everybody's upset about what's
- 1:33been happening, But you know, the, and I've, I've read a lot
- 1:36of people say, well, the hacks are going to slow down the
- 1:39institutions. It has nothing to do with that
- 1:41because we were never going to rely on, you know, the great
- 1:45coding of which, however, like I said, project is driving these
- 1:48different features. We're going to work with the
- 1:51folks who are building different protocols, with the folks who
- 1:53are building infrastructures to make sure that we can put our
- 1:56stamp of approval on it. And that's happening as we
- 1:58speak. And so I think more and more is
- 2:00going to move on chain more quickly than everybody thinks.
- 2:03All right, So putting this slight shit coinery aside or
- 2:07wait, did I get? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I made it.
- 2:10I made it. There is a few interesting
- 2:13points here. One, obviously I think the big
- 2:15headline that he said is like the next 18 months, things are
- 2:20going to move a lot faster than we expect.
- 2:22And from 1 vantage point at least, as you know, I'm
- 2:26constantly bullish on everything.
- 2:27If I read into this and I give my take on what he's basically
- 2:31saying, it sounds like he is basically destroying the
- 2:36diminishing returns idea. Everyone is is leaning on this
- 2:40idea that moving forward we're going to see diminishing returns
- 2:44on Bitcoin. If you take the institutional
- 2:47interest into Bitcoin and you consider how much capital they
- 2:50have, I think if we see a very huge influx into Bitcoin and
- 2:56remember Morgan Stanley is recommending about a 2 to 4%
- 3:00portfolio allocation, we're starting to see Fidelity's get
- 3:04more bullish. They're talking about 10%.
- 3:06We've seen reports basically saying, hey, if you believe in
- 3:10Bitcoin, then maybe a 22% allocation to Bitcoin is what
- 3:14you should be doing. So in context of how much
- 3:18capital is in the world, if we do see the more extreme side of
- 3:21these portfolio allocations starting to be acted upon, then
- 3:27I think we might be seeing a lot more capital flowing into
- 3:29Bitcoin than we even expect. And this is kind of one of those
- 3:33ideas that I've been saying for the last couple of weeks where
- 3:36everyone thinks we're going to just get a slow, gradual
- 3:39adoption of Bitcoin. I don't necessarily think that
- 3:43that is set in stone. If we do find ourselves in a
- 3:47situation where people are finally waking up to Bitcoin,
- 3:52I'm rather the the need for Bitcoin.
- 3:55What can it can offer to you in terms of, you know, censorship
- 3:59resistant permission list, peer-to-peer money, all the
- 4:02stuff that we like to talk about.
- 4:03But even further, the fact that if you just add, I think I saw a
- 4:07report this week, it was, it was also Fidelity and they basically
- 4:12said the 6040 portfolio is dead. It doesn't work anymore.
- 4:16Even if you just add 1%, you're going to get a better ROI than
- 4:20the traditional portfolio allocation.
- 4:23But if you go as high as 3%, which really isn't that much,
- 4:26the returns blow everything out of the water.
- 4:29Now to add on top of this, we are also seeing Morgan Stanley
- 4:34bull post out here. Shouts out to Bitcoin Magazine
- 4:37for catching this one. And, and they do the, the
- 4:40standard, you know, Morgan Stanley's E*Trade published a
- 4:44report showing Bitcoin has risen much faster than other assets
- 4:47over the past ten years. In the last 10 years, you know,
- 4:51Bitcoin up 85.5%, NASDAQ 100 maybe 19 1/2, S&P 513.3 and gold
- 4:5913%. They're out here bull posting,
- 5:02which is part of the broader conversation that we've been
- 5:05talking about. Remember how many financial
- 5:09advisors Morgan Stanley has, as you heard in that clip?
- 5:12What did he say? If you disregard the
- 5:15everything's coming on chain, you know the protocol stuff, you
- 5:18heard two things. One, they want to custody the
- 5:20Bitcoin. They want to be the the source
- 5:25that people come to, to get Bitcoin and then further the big
- 5:31kind of maybe rhetorical tool. Once we put our stamp of
- 5:35approval on Bitcoin, then the floodgates open up.
- 5:38Now on that point, we did see a very interesting story come out
- 5:42of Morgan Stanley, which is as I said, they have officially
- 5:46launched Bitcoin trade in and Ethereum trading.
- 5:49But like what? We'll disregard that for a
- 5:52minute. Well, well, yeah.
- 5:54Well, well, totally ignore the shit coinery We all knew so Wall
- 5:57Street was gonna be shit coining anyways.
- 5:59This is actually a significant move here and I'll break down
- 6:04why. It's literally in the headline.
- 6:07Morgan Stanley launches E*Trade quote crypto trading at .5%,
- 6:13undercutting Coinbase and Schwab.
- 6:15What is one of the things that we've been telling you guys and
- 6:18and further, this is not a full endorsement of you should be
- 6:21buying your Bitcoin from Morgan Stanley.
- 6:23I'll get into that a little bit in one second, but what have we
- 6:27been saying? As Wall Street starts to come
- 6:30into Bitcoin, as they start to offer new products, as they
- 6:34start to offer Bitcoin trading, spot Bitcoin trading on their
- 6:37platforms, they are going to be working for you.
- 6:41This is no longer a theory. They literally undercutting the
- 6:43whole industry and saying hey, our fees are lower than everyone
- 6:47else out there. Not only are they putting their
- 6:50stamp of approval of you should be adding Bitcoin to your
- 6:52portfolio, but they are offering a very interesting product here,
- 7:00which is one of the theories I have been saying for a while.
- 7:03As we move forward, it is going to be very interesting to see
- 7:07how the native Bitcoin companies compete with the Wall Street
- 7:11giants. And as you can see, that
- 7:13competition is going to be better for you because hey,
- 7:17maybe you'll be able to get better returns, better fees on
- 7:20your Bitcoin. Now, again, probably wouldn't be
- 7:23trusting Morgan Stanley per SE. I know the average person, the
- 7:27layman might trust Morgan Stanley.
- 7:29They do have a big brand name. They do have that authority
- 7:33figure here. They do have that sense of, oh,
- 7:36we can trust them. They've been in this financial
- 7:39industry or rather any financial market for a very long time.
- 7:43They got to know what they're doing.
- 7:45And that was what he just said. And this was again, at
- 7:48consensus, which is a shit coin conference, but he basically
- 7:51said, look, we're not going to necessarily trust all of the
- 7:56Bitcoin company. We're gonna bring our expert
- 7:58expertise, which to me is a little laughable here.
- 8:02And we are going to do this natively.
- 8:04So let me break down this article a little bit and then
- 8:07I'll open it up to Nico and then I'll give you some of my
- 8:09concerns. So of course, Morgan Stanley has
- 8:12begun direct cryptocurrency trading on its E*Trade platform.
- 8:16The bank is charging clients 50 basis points again, half a
- 8:19percent per transaction, undercutting Coinbase, Robin
- 8:23Hood, and Charles Schwab. The pilot as of now is only live
- 8:26to a small group of users, but all 8.6 million E*Trade clients
- 8:31are set to gain access later in 2026, at least according to
- 8:35Bloomberg. Excuse me, of course.
- 8:38The .5% fee places Morgan Stanley below several rivals
- 8:41competing for retail crypto flow.
- 8:43Schwab charges 75 basis points, or .75%, on its newly launched
- 8:48spot. Bitcoin and Ether trading
- 8:50Coinbase retail fees can climb above .5% depending on tier and
- 8:55payment method. Quote.
- 8:56If I know Schwab, they likely won't let the stand.
- 8:59Others will probably undercut too.
- 9:02By the time the dust settles, it'll be pretty dirt cheap to
- 9:04trade crypto everywhere. Just was because wait, just as
- 9:09we saw with Bitcoin ETF expiration ratios prior to
- 9:13launch. This is why Tradfi is no joke
- 9:16and crypto exchanges should be scared, commented ETF analyst
- 9:20Eric Balkunis. I've been saying that this was
- 9:22going to happen for a while. I think this might be one of the
- 9:26more interesting things going on right now is to see how the
- 9:29native Bitcoin companies, all of us quote real bitcoiners, how we
- 9:34are going to compete with Wall Street and the game.
- 9:38The game has fundamentally shifted.
- 9:41It is a new era. This isn't the same Bitcoin that
- 9:45we've seen in the past. For better or worse, we are
- 9:49actually entering into the early, sorry, the early
- 9:55mainstream phase. I I, I think that's what it's
- 9:57called. I'm I'm blanking right now.
- 9:59No, the early majority phase. And as you can see, that
- 10:02competition is going to build up.
- 10:05Again, you may not like the institutions here, but one of
- 10:08the things that I definitely try to do is I, I don't think of a
- 10:14world that I necessarily, I don't just think of the world I
- 10:18want to see. I, I try to look at the world as
- 10:22it is and obviously nudge it and, and go to companies that
- 10:26are that are working towards the future that I actually want to
- 10:28live in. But as we're seeing right now,
- 10:31the interest and the entrance of the institutions here, the
- 10:34interest and entrance of Wall Street, it is doing some
- 10:39interesting things that I believe will fundamentally shake
- 10:42up everything that we know moving forward.
- 10:45And if these ETF inflows, if this amount of spot Bitcoin
- 10:50trading does get very popular amongst basically the masses
- 10:54here, the next 18 months could be, as was said in that clip,
- 11:01happening and moving faster than it has in the past.
- 11:04Now, that is a big claim considering Nico and I are
- 11:08basically 2017 Bitcoiners, which means, you know, we all saw what
- 11:12happened in 2017 and a lot of us are still chasing that dragon.
- 11:16We're still looking towards that incredible bull run that we saw
- 11:20in 2017 and a lot of us are thinking we're never going to
- 11:23see that again. No, I know, I agree.
- 11:27I I want. I want to believe, I want to
- 11:29believe, but let me. But it is.
- 11:31Interesting. We will get that, but not in the
- 11:35condensed amount of time. It's just going to be elongated.
- 11:40That doesn't sound fun. Five years.
- 11:42Five years for the Gays I. Don't think it's going to take
- 11:45five years either. It's just like like the days.
- 11:48So you guys have to understand the market cap of Bitcoin is
- 11:50just so much bigger. Don't do that to me.
- 11:53So it's just going to take longer for you to get the gains,
- 11:57but the gains are still there. Once Bitcoin reaches $1,000,000,
- 12:01ladies and gentlemen, like this is where like this is the
- 12:03window. This is the window right now
- 12:06where you have to be really packing your bags because once
- 12:10Bitcoin gets to the $1,000,000 region again, these price
- 12:13movements, it's just going to require so much capital for like
- 12:18think about it. It was a lot easier for Bitcoin
- 12:21to double from 1000 to 2000 than it was for Bitcoin to double
- 12:26from 100,000 to 200,000. Now imagine how difficult it
- 12:30would be for Bitcoin to double from 1,000,000 to 2 million.
- 12:33That's why I like we have this unique window of opportunity
- 12:37where there's still tremendous upside in Bitcoin, but that
- 12:41window is closing and that window to get to 1 Bitcoin is
- 12:45closing even faster. Most people don't have $79,865
- 12:50of disposable income to put into Bitcoin.
- 12:53Like that's the reality, right? So I just wanted to give that
- 12:56context Opti. No, no, that's, that's I mean, I
- 12:59kind of disagree considering what we saw with gold last year,
- 13:02but it it does, it does make. That is very true.
- 13:06Like that's my big disagreement. He could see like this like
- 13:10ginormous RIP because at the end of the day, guys like, like the
- 13:16thing about markets is that like, I don't know if you guys
- 13:19have seen the SanDisk stock. Yeah, it's going.
- 13:22Did the the Wall Street? Sorry, the stocks are trading
- 13:26like shit coins right now, it's crazy.
- 13:27The SanDisk stock due to like the whole AI, you know the the
- 13:31AI adoption 50 xed in one year 50 X 5000% in 365 days.
- 13:40And and what was the market cap so?
- 13:41Anything is possible. I don't know the market cap, but
- 13:43so anything is possible in the markets.
- 13:45And in the beginning of 2017, you didn't think that Bitcoin
- 13:49was going to 20X in one year, right?
- 13:51So anything is possible, but at the same time.
- 13:53The market cap is only a little under 200 billion.
- 13:56So like at the same time though, guys, like you know it, it's the
- 13:59law of big numbers, right? Like it's like the market cap of
- 14:02Bitcoin is 1.35. No, no, we're at 1.61 or I don't
- 14:07know. It went down a little bit, like
- 14:081 1/2 one and. 1/2 trillion. So like obviously it takes a lot
- 14:13of capital to move, but at the same time, Opti is absolutely
- 14:17right. Like you had gold pull off this
- 14:20enormous. Move.
- 14:21And silver and the market cap of gold was enormous, right?
- 14:25It went to $35 trillion. If Bitcoin reaches the market
- 14:29cap of gold, that would be $1.7 million per Bitcoin in a year.
- 14:33And that was the goal like initially when we first like
- 14:37when we because we cover this all the time in the Clark Moody
- 14:39dashboard that that we have. And by the way, guys, we're
- 14:42gonna, we're, we're about to start hearing noises they're
- 14:45doing. Yeah, I I didn't imagine the
- 14:46noises guys you guys will hear. Them today they're doing they're
- 14:50doing work on the rooftop of the studio, so bear with us, but
- 14:55it's gonna be a lively show to say the least.
- 14:57You might hear some buzz saws and some hammers, but it's OK.
- 15:00It's gonna be horrible. Keep the show rolling.
- 15:03But yeah, it is possible. Like technically it is possible.
- 15:06Well, it is possible, but. To really give the context of
- 15:11this, the reason gold went as high as it did, it wasn't
- 15:14necessarily retail. It was the central banks were
- 15:17acquiring a lot of gold. So obviously that's probably not
- 15:21in the stage that we're in, but it can happen.
- 15:24What? Happens when central banks start
- 15:27accumulating. Well, we have 1, you know, the
- 15:29Czech Republic, but they don't have that much.
- 15:31Yeah, they don't. They don't have that much
- 15:33capital. But anyways, anyways, going back
- 15:35to this Morgan Stanley E*Trade. Oops, sorry, my biggest
- 15:40contention here and and I I tried to research this for you
- 15:44guys. So I'm going to do the default
- 15:45that I think this is what they're doing.
- 15:48Obviously from a hardcore Bitcoin first principles
- 15:53perspective. My main question when I heard
- 15:56about E*Trade offering quote spot Bitcoin trading was a very
- 16:01simple one. Are they going to allow you to
- 16:04take that Bitcoin off the E*Trade platform?
- 16:07Now I couldn't find any information regarding this
- 16:10because as you can tell as that report basically said, this is
- 16:14only to a small, small group of Morgan Stanley E*Trade clients
- 16:20that are using this that are able to trade Bitcoin on their
- 16:23platform with very low fees. So I'm going to default on the
- 16:27idea that I think it's probably going to stay on the platform
- 16:31for now. I mean, we have seen other
- 16:33companies do something similar. I'm pretty sure if I'm
- 16:36remembering correctly that Robin Hood basically when they launch
- 16:40their Bitcoin trading, you can actually take your Bitcoin off
- 16:42the exchange and then slowly and later you are you are allowed to
- 16:47withdraw your Bitcoin. So I'm guessing again, I tried
- 16:51to look up this news for you guys, this this very important
- 16:54detail, but I didn't get anything.
- 16:57And so I'm guessing, you know, just my best guess here is that
- 17:02that's probably how it's going to work out when it launches is
- 17:06you can buy Bitcoin, which is still kind of like just getting
- 17:09Bitcoin exposure. It in my opinion, it's not too
- 17:12different than just buying an ETF.
- 17:14Basically, it's still a Wall Street wrapper on it.
- 17:19So I'm I'd be very surprised if when this launches to every
- 17:24E*Trade client, whether it's going to be able, whether you're
- 17:28going to be able to withdraw your Bitcoin.
- 17:30Now, if that's the case, then obviously these Wall Street
- 17:33products are a big no go from our perspective from we would
- 17:38not be recommending them even if quote they have lower fees.
- 17:41You don't want to use a platform that yeah, you can get lower
- 17:45fees. You might be able to technically
- 17:47get more Bitcoin, but if you can't take the Bitcoin off of
- 17:50their platform and then it's not really your Bitcoin.
- 17:53So that was the biggest question that I had when I heard this
- 17:56news. Can you withdraw your Bitcoin
- 18:00now? Another interesting aspect that
- 18:01we have seen similar patterns play out like this in the past
- 18:05is they did the same thing that every other institution has done
- 18:08so far. They let a small group of
- 18:11clients use it. And I'm only going to again,
- 18:14guess that those small clients that are able to get quote
- 18:17Bitcoin from E*Trade are probably their highest net worth
- 18:21individuals, which obviously is something that we've been
- 18:26talking about on this show for a long time, is they always do the
- 18:29same thing. Oh yeah, hey, we're launching
- 18:31this product, but we're only going to allow our high net
- 18:34worth individuals to get in early, which is interesting
- 18:37because what if they're the ones buying right now at the bottom?
- 18:40I, I know Bitcoin kind of retraced a little bit here, but
- 18:43you let your rich customers come in, scoop up a lot of Bitcoin at
- 18:47the absolute bottom. Then you open it up later in the
- 18:49year when you let the retail come in, when you let the layman
- 18:53come in and they're buying what halfway at up the bull run,
- 18:57maybe at the top of the bull run and they're expecting at least
- 19:01everyone still kind of expects this idea that the asset
- 19:04managers that are recommending you, you know, your portfolio
- 19:08allocations of stocks you should buy the commodities you should
- 19:12be buying. They have your best interests in
- 19:14mind. Well, it looks like they're kind
- 19:16of doing the same thing. One, you're probably not going
- 19:19to be able to withdraw your Bitcoin.
- 19:20And two, they're letting the rich people get in first, which,
- 19:23you know, I, I, I, I, or rather, as we've heard in the past,
- 19:27we're only going to let high net worth individuals with a high
- 19:30risk tolerance get in early, which obviously that's the
- 19:35beauty of Bitcoin. There is no gatekeepers.
- 19:38As long as you have dollars, you can get Bitcoin.
- 19:43And you don't need to trust an advisor to tell you when.
- 19:45You don't need to trust an institution to basically hold
- 19:49your hand through the process, though.
- 19:51For some people, they like that. But you know, those were my, my
- 19:55basically biggest concerns here. Those are my cons from what I
- 19:59can kind of parse through the information we currently have.
- 20:03But let's let's explore that further, right?
- 20:06So like, yeah, the other one, will they right, Rehypothecate.
- 20:09So yes, hold on, I'll be right back.
- 20:13And I had AI, had AI, had a stream with Larry Leopard and
- 20:18Caitlin Long, which we should probably do that soon.
- 20:23And they 100% will re hypothecate.
- 20:26But the beauty of Bitcoin is its absolute scarcity, right?
- 20:30So the re hypothecation card, you could only play to such an
- 20:34extent. It's a double edged sword
- 20:35because eventually people are going to do the math and they're
- 20:38going to say, wait a second, why is there 25,000,000 Bitcoin?
- 20:41Now the other thing I want to address is we had this utopian
- 20:45dream as a community like five years ago and the community was
- 20:50a lot more militant, rightly so. And the whole, you know, theme,
- 20:55the whole ethos of all of us on X and on the Bitcoin community
- 20:59as a whole was, hey guys, this is a revolution.
- 21:03Everyone is going to take self custody of their Bitcoin, We're
- 21:06going to fix the money, fix the world, etcetera, etcetera.
- 21:09That utopian vision was naive. You kind of have to meet people
- 21:14where they are. And the reality is that the
- 21:16lion's share, the world's wealth is held by older individuals and
- 21:20those older individuals are used to the traditional financial
- 21:24system. They're not comfortable with the
- 21:26idea. The hammer time, baby hammer
- 21:29time is starting. They're not used to.
- 21:32Stampede. Plug exactly.
- 21:34They're not used to, you know, going outside of what they're
- 21:38comfortable with. But again, going back to the
- 21:42Trojan horse reference, this is a Trojan horse because
- 21:45eventually they will come to that realization.
- 21:48And even if they don't come to that realization, guys, the the
- 21:52biggest wealth transfer in human history is going to happen in
- 21:56the next 10 to 20 years. And that wealth transfer is
- 22:00going to come, is going to go from the Boomers to the Gen.
- 22:04Xers to the millennials. And let me ask you guys
- 22:08something from a percentage basis, how much, how many
- 22:11millennials do you think have a very good outlook on the
- 22:16traditional systems? How many millennials in your
- 22:20view, are comfortable with what Wall Street did in 2008, right,
- 22:26which is basically steal our future?
- 22:28How many millennials are comfortable with the traditional
- 22:31financial system? They're not comfortable with
- 22:33that. So for them, it's going to be a,
- 22:36a big portion of them are going to be like, yeah, listen, I, I
- 22:39love my financial advisor. This is great, right?
- 22:41But like, why am I going to pay an extra fee if I could just
- 22:45take self custody of this Bitcoin myself?
- 22:48So the utopian vision that we have was a little bit naive.
- 22:52It doesn't mean it's not going to play out.
- 22:54It's just going to be a multi generational thing.
- 22:57It's going to be a multi generational change, right?
- 23:00So I'm still extremely bullish. This was, excuse me, this was an
- 23:05inevitability. Number go up was going to
- 23:08inevitably attract Tradfi. Number up was inevitably going
- 23:12to attract Wall Street. But everybody has to remember
- 23:15Max Keiser's famous quote, you don't change Bitcoin, Bitcoin
- 23:20changes you. So while Wall Street is going to
- 23:23try and take over Bitcoin, what I think eventually is going to
- 23:27end up happening is it's going to be Bitcoin that ends up
- 23:30changing Wall Street. And I think a lot of people, and
- 23:33this is a big right now, this is a big point of contention right
- 23:37now. This is a big topic that's being
- 23:38talked about regarding the Clarity Act.
- 23:41Like the reason the the banks are so freaked out about the
- 23:43Clarity Act is because they're scared that people are going to
- 23:46take out their deposits from the traditional banks and putting it
- 23:50to these new platforms that do offer interest yield rewards,
- 23:54however you want to frame it. But it's really interest.
- 23:57So yes, this is a pivotal ship. 5th ladies and gentlemen, this
- 24:01is like the equivalent of what the Internet did to the economy
- 24:06and what the Internet did to society in the 1990s.
- 24:10Everybody thought that the Internet was going to be this
- 24:13huge thing, it was going to change everything and they got a
- 24:16little bit ahead of their skis. However they were right.
- 24:19That thesis was right. It just took a decade.
- 24:23It just took two decades to fully play out.
- 24:26If you're a Business Today, could you operate the the lights
- 24:30are shaking. It's hilarious.
- 24:31They might, guys. We literally.
- 24:33Might. It might have to be a short
- 24:34short show. Literally.
- 24:35Might have construction workers fall through the.
- 24:37Roof. No, no, we might just have to do
- 24:39a shorter show today. But anyways, that's my take on
- 24:43all this. This is extremely exciting.
- 24:45We're winning guys, the Trojan horses and and you know, I know
- 24:50it doesn't feel like what we all envisioned as hardcore.
- 24:53Bitcoiners, is this what winning feels like?
- 24:54Bitcoiners that take self custody.
- 24:56However, I will say that this is definitely a step in the right
- 25:01direction. The Trojan horse is inside the
- 25:03Trojan horse is inside government, the Trojan horse is
- 25:06inside Wall Street and it's just going to take a little bit
- 25:10longer than we all expected, but the gains are there guys.
- 25:13The gains are there stay humble stack sats number go up
- 25:17technology, it's going to do its thing Infinity divided by 21
- 25:21million Bitcoin is going to win because of its incentives and
- 25:24all they have on the other side is coercion.
- 25:27My money is always on incentives guys it's going to be a great
- 25:30show. We have an update for you guys
- 25:32regarding the Clarity Act. We're going to cover that.
- 25:34And then also I called it on yesterday's show, ladies and
- 25:38gentlemen, about a cash flow producing business.
- 25:43I was telling you guys yesterday on the show regarding the 21
- 25:46announcement last week and it seems like Jack Mahler's
- 25:50literally confirmed exactly what I was talking about yesterday.
- 25:54So we're going to have an update on that as well.
- 25:56Guys, it's going to be a great show.
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- 28:21At the time of recording the Bitcoin price is $79,830.
- 28:27Stats per dollar 1253 block height 948,337.
- 28:32If you guys could hear Hammer Time, right?
- 28:35Hammer Time in the chat, baby. No, no, they're they're not
- 28:39actually fixing the roof. They're just hammering stamp
- 28:41seeds up there. They're just hammering stamp
- 28:42seeds. Realized monetary inflation .83%
- 28:46Market cap 1.6 trillion Realized monetary Bitcoin versus Gold
- 28:51market cap 5.32% Percentage issued 95.36%.
- 28:57Declined from all time high -36.7%.
- 29:02So if you're buying Bitcoin right now, you're getting it at
- 29:05a 36% discount, which is quite big of a discount.
- 29:10Any who I do want to talk about this guys so.
- 29:23What did I tell you yesterday, ladies and gentlemen?
- 29:25What did I tell you? What did I tell you?
- 29:27It it all goes full circle. I told you guys this, right?
- 29:30You all go through this as an experience as a bitcoiner.
- 29:34Eventually, initially you say never sell your Bitcoin.
- 29:37I'm not gonna sell my Bitcoin no matter what.
- 29:39And then you come to the realization that, hey, I'm
- 29:42gonna, I'm gonna end up having to sell my Bitcoin a little bit,
- 29:45just a little bit of my Bitcoin. And it seems like Michael Saylor
- 29:49finally came, went through that full circle.
- 29:51Everyone has to pay their prices, tuition.
- 29:53This is the beauty of Bitcoin is that there's no special rules
- 29:57for elites. There's no special rules for
- 29:59institutions. There's no special rules for
- 30:01anyone. It's rules without rulers.
- 30:03It's actual equal money, right? It's a level playing field.
- 30:07And Michael Saylor is coming to the same conclusion that I came
- 30:11to, the same conclusion that Opti came to and the same.
- 30:13Conclusion that I. Literally told you guys on
- 30:16yesterday's show. He might have.
- 30:18He might have watched it, maybe, but this is what Michael Saylor
- 30:24said. Buy more Bitcoin than you sell,
- 30:26right? That's exactly what we told you
- 30:28guys yesterday, right? Eventually, you know, in the
- 30:33plot line, in the story of a bitcoiner, you go through this
- 30:37experience yourself. Initially, you don't want to
- 30:40sell no matter what. And then eventually you're
- 30:42forced to sell for whatever reason to pay for living
- 30:44expenses. Maybe you were overexposed.
- 30:47Maybe you were putting too much of your income into Bitcoin and
- 30:50you have to sell some to pay for expenses or whatever.
- 30:53And Michael Saylor is going through that same exact
- 30:56experience. The only difference here is he
- 30:59has a massive following. He has a huge following.
- 31:02So it got a lot more attention. Now going back to what I was
- 31:06saying, does this mean that strategy, the strategy stock
- 31:11isn't going to perform well, that Microstrategy's in peril,
- 31:14that Michael Saylor's in peril? Absolutely not.
- 31:17He's just learning the lesson that all of us Bitcoiners have
- 31:19learned. The longer that you're in
- 31:21Bitcoin, right? So he's saying, he said it very,
- 31:24in a very simplistic fashion, buy more Bitcoin than you sell.
- 31:30That's it. That's really what it comes down
- 31:32to, guys. You don't have to make it over
- 31:34the finish line with 100% of your stack.
- 31:37I said this yesterday. You just have to make, you have
- 31:40to make it over the finish line with the majority of your stack.
- 31:44That's what it comes down to, ladies and gentlemen.
- 31:47All right, so that's the first update.
- 31:49The 2nd update that I want to talk about is again called this
- 31:53yesterday, Opti. I thought it was a little slow
- 31:56yesterday because I was just getting back into the hot.
- 31:58Seat wait, just yesterday. And This is why, This is why
- 32:04he's my brother. This is why he's my brother.
- 32:06If he wasn't making fun of me all the time, I wouldn't
- 32:09consider him a brother. This is what brothers do.
- 32:11But this is what I also said yesterday.
- 32:14So Huddle Whisper says 1 does not simply create operating.
- 32:17Can you zoom in? Can you zoom in a little?
- 32:19Bit so 1 does not simply create operating cash flow on pristine
- 32:22collateral without taking significant risk on the said
- 32:25collateral. Investors beware.
- 32:27And then Jack Mahler's is saying exactly what I I'm saying I have
- 32:31nothing but respect for what strategy has built.
- 32:33No issue from me. And then he goes exactly what I
- 32:37said verbatim on yesterday's show.
- 32:40Operating cash flow comes from building profitable businesses.
- 32:44I'm not talking about generating yields on Bitcoin collateral.
- 32:48I'm talking about real operating income alongside a Bitcoin
- 32:53treasury. So, yeah, man, I mean,
- 32:57tomorrow's Bitcoin news today, baby, simply Bitcoin.
- 33:00I mean, Opti, it's crazy because I don't know, maybe I have
- 33:03imposter syndrome, maybe I doubt what I'm saying.
- 33:07But for the last six years or so, what I've come to realize
- 33:10is, guys, we're usually more right than we are wrong.
- 33:15We we might not be completely polished, we might be wearing
- 33:18hoodies on the show, but we're pretty spot on on our
- 33:22assessments and on our on our analysis.
- 33:26So yeah, man, Sailor and Mahler's confirming exactly what
- 33:30we were talking about on yesterday's intro.
- 33:33Again, quoting model. Mahler's operating cash flow
- 33:36comes from building profitable businesses.
- 33:39And then Sailor might buy more Bitcoin than you sell.
- 33:44So again, full circle. Closing the loop there, weaving
- 33:47it back in. 2 for two baby. 2 for two.
- 33:51Yeah, I mean, look, you, you guys know I, I always say I have
- 33:56a 42 IQ. It's highly debatable.
- 33:59You know, it might be lower. It might be.
- 34:02You gotta stop saying that. It might be higher.
- 34:04He's just saying that. Opti's just saying that, but
- 34:06Opti's actually. Really smart.
- 34:08Hey dude, don't. Blow my cover here.
- 34:09Went to university for Hey hey, all right, quit dodging me.
- 34:14Philosophy dude dodged out here. Dumber than his mark bro.
- 34:19Hey, it's a 21st Law of the 48 Law of the Power.
- 34:22Alright, alright, literally go look it up.
- 34:25I, I didn't make that up. I, I actually didn't make it up.
- 34:28Go look at the 21st law of the 40th follow power.
- 34:30That's that's literally what it is.
- 34:32Anyways, I, I say all that to essentially say that what is
- 34:37super interesting to me and, and, and kind of picking back
- 34:41off what Nico said is, you know, we, we've been making content
- 34:44for a long time. We've been bitcoiners for a long
- 34:46time. And there is that classic meme,
- 34:50that classic idea that when you work from first principles, it,
- 34:53it doesn't become that difficult to predict what's going on.
- 34:58And one thing that you do notice in more a traditional financial
- 35:03lane is that things are overcomplicated for a reason.
- 35:07It's so that you go to these financial advisors and they
- 35:10recommend stuff so that you can, you know, properly invest your
- 35:14savings or properly try to make some money.
- 35:17But when you come and do Bitcoin and you just have a basic, I, I,
- 35:22maybe it was not necessarily basic, but you work from a first
- 35:26principles, from a foundational level and, and you kind of
- 35:31simplify everything going on and, and try to make sense of
- 35:36just like these terms and these ideas.
- 35:38It's not that difficult to really just see through all of
- 35:42the noise. And like we said yesterday, you
- 35:44know, Jack Mahler said exactly what we were saying on the show
- 35:47yesterday. It's it's not that complicated,
- 35:50like you want a profitable business that has cash flow.
- 35:53Now, if Bitcoin is money and this is I, I didn't say this on
- 35:57the show, but I was saying it maybe before the show or after
- 36:00the show, I forget. If you just switch Bitcoin for
- 36:05dollars in in this whole idea, it it's not that crazy of an
- 36:10idea. If we tell you never sell your
- 36:14dollars, or rather that's not what people say.
- 36:16That's what bitcoiners say. We actually say the opposite,
- 36:18like sell your dollars for Bitcoin.
- 36:20But if someone tells you to save a lot of money, you know what's
- 36:25I forget what the statistics are, but right now, you know,
- 36:28there's that one, that one YouTube, his name's Caleb
- 36:33Hammer. I forget what what the show is.
- 36:34It's like financial audit or something.
- 36:36People love that show. I really can't stand the show,
- 36:38but I respect the guy's hustle. You know, there's this idea that
- 36:43like as a millennial, as a young person, there is a number
- 36:46depending on how you want your life to live.
- 36:48And that's usually, I think right now somewhere around like
- 36:515 to 10 million. If you want to have a bunch of
- 36:53kids and you want to be able to pay for your kids for, you know,
- 36:5718 years, etcetera, etcetera, live in a nice house, provide
- 37:01for your wife, etcetera, etcetera.
- 37:02Like, that's the number that most people should be looking
- 37:05towards. But we all know that, yeah, once
- 37:08you get to five, $10 million, like you may not be filthy rich,
- 37:12but you'll be able to live comfortably.
- 37:15No one no one thinks it's crazy to be like, yeah, I made a bunch
- 37:18of money and I'm literally never going to use that money.
- 37:22If Bitcoin is money, if Bitcoin is the best money, I I I kind of
- 37:28like the lane that we're going down right now 'cause this idea
- 37:31obviously it's a good sound bite.
- 37:33We were, you know, having fun yesterday.
- 37:35It's like never sell your Bitcoin asterisk.
- 37:38But if you need to use your Bitcoin to improve your life,
- 37:42obviously don't just have a bunch of Bitcoin and then not be
- 37:46able to survive like it. It's just not a good sound bite.
- 37:50But if you switch Bitcoin with dollars or with money, the idea
- 37:58is not that crazy. It's like, look, build a huge
- 38:00treasure chest of Bitcoin and the longer you're in Bitcoin, if
- 38:05it is your money, if you are all in using a little bit of that
- 38:10Bitcoin to live your life or live a better life, like you're
- 38:14not, you're not breaking like a holy sanctimony.
- 38:17You know, it's not sacrilegious here.
- 38:19It's like it's your money, do what you want with your money.
- 38:23Now that's just for an average everyday person.
- 38:27Obviously with Sailor, it's a little different.
- 38:29I actually saw a funny response to the, that tweet that Nico
- 38:32brought up. You know, just what, what do you
- 38:35say? Buy more Bitcoin than you sell.
- 38:37I, I saw a funny tweet and it was like, Sailor, we want our
- 38:40kidneys back. Sailor, I want my kidney back
- 38:43because obviously he's like selling all your chairs, sell
- 38:46your kidney to buy Bitcoin, you know, do a HELOC on your house
- 38:48to get more Bitcoin, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
- 38:52But it's not that crazy in the idea.
- 38:53It's only news because it's coming from Sailor, because he
- 38:57built his brand over this whole idea of I am never going to sell
- 39:01Bitcoin. But guys, so did I and so did
- 39:07Opti, and so did most Bitcoiners.
- 39:09This is what you guys have. To let's guys sorry about the
- 39:12roof noise. They're they're redoing the roof
- 39:14on the studio today and we we we thought we'd be able to come in
- 39:18here and it wouldn't be noise, but hopefully it's done today.
- 39:20Today's show might be a little shorter.
- 39:22So they're they're yelling, but continue, Nico.
- 39:24So yeah, I mean like it it Look, guys, all of us said this in the
- 39:29beginning. The only difference is that
- 39:31Sailor had this massive audience.
- 39:33This is massive following as a publicly traded company.
- 39:37I'm seeing this tweet right now. I don't want to I don't want to
- 39:40say who it's from, but it says it's logical to sell when you
- 39:43need to. But yet another inconsistency to
- 39:45build a brand on never selling without meaning.
- 39:47Yeah, that's bars. But here's the thing.
- 39:50I said the same thing to my friends and family.
- 39:52I literally said the same thing. And I opti probably said the
- 39:55same thing, right? Like.
- 39:56I still say this every. No, I, I, I, I actually caveat
- 39:59it. I'm like, look, just buy
- 40:01Bitcoin, hold it for like 5-10 years, you know, like but but
- 40:05it's still, you know, never sell in the.
- 40:07First years, What were you saying?
- 40:09I like never sell your Bitcoin. Exactly, that's this is the
- 40:12point I'm trying to make. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
- 40:13So anyways, guys, it's going to be a great show, actually really
- 40:17positive news from the clarity act.
- 40:19It seems like it's going to pass, ladies and gentlemen, 180,
- 40:23the Poly market odds have it at a right now at a 70% chance of
- 40:30pause of passing. So that's big breaking news
- 40:33guys. We're going to be right back
- 40:35just after the break. Here we go.
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- 42:19code simply. Hey, Wayne, Nico, before we move
- 42:27on, can can I, can we add a little more to the strategy
- 42:30story? Because one other little thing
- 42:32that I did find interesting is the fact and, and I, I blanked
- 42:35on it. I remember during the ad break
- 42:37that what, what I did find interesting is it is kind of
- 42:41something that you said yesterday, though you were
- 42:43saying it in terms of like when we see the Bitcoin treasury
- 42:46company start to capitulate is when we know we're at like the
- 42:48bottom of the bear market. What I did find interesting on
- 42:52this saga that we're seeing is that Sailor is obviously feeling
- 42:56the pressure from the, you know, the plebs and from everyone out
- 43:00there because he also had another tweet and this one came
- 43:03out of strategy in regards to everyone freaking out about him
- 43:06saying sell some Bitcoin or we will sell some Bitcoin.
- 43:10Not only did he do the buy more Bitcoin than you sell, but
- 43:12strategy did an interesting tweet where they're like as long
- 43:15as Bitcoin goes up 2.3% a year, we'll be able to pay our stretch
- 43:19dividend. And it's not so much about what
- 43:21he's tweeting, it's more about the fact that like he's starting
- 43:25to feel the pressure. You can tell he's starting to
- 43:27feel the pressure. And remember when we were in the
- 43:29first initial drop around October, Saylor was on on CNBC
- 43:34or Fox or whatever, And it was like the first time we saw him
- 43:37crash out and we were like, oh, this is different.
- 43:41He's starting to feel the pressure.
- 43:42OK, So maybe signs of bear market action going on or
- 43:47towards the tail end of a bear market action happening like
- 43:50these are, I would say, healthy signs.
- 43:53Anyways, sorry I I just wanted to add that.
- 43:56That's great context. That's great context.
- 43:59All right, everybody. So let's get into the clarity
- 44:03act. Ladies and gentlemen, 67%, this
- 44:06is essentially the highest it's ever been since February.
- 44:11February was at 82%. Now it's back up to 67%.
- 44:16And again, it's not just noise. Some things have passed.
- 44:20Again, for the audio listeners, this is the Poly market at odds
- 44:24right now. Now there's about $636,000 worth
- 44:29of volumes. There's a lot of money on the
- 44:31line. A lot of people are gambling on
- 44:34this, which is funny. Every Everything's just a bat
- 44:36now these. Days so the world is a casino
- 44:39the. Poly market odds right now for
- 44:41the Clarity Act signed into law in 2026 is 67%.
- 44:46OK, So what has changed from then and now?
- 44:51Well guys, I told you the importance of bipartisanship.
- 44:58Check out this breaking news tweet from the one and only Pete
- 45:02Russo Justin Democrat senator just said that Bitcoin clarity
- 45:07act will past. We are going to have to
- 45:10compromise. Clarity is clarity is happening.
- 45:15So this is big, big news. I told you guys that for Clarity
- 45:20to pass, it needs 60 votes in the Senate.
- 45:24The Republicans only hold 53 Senate seats, so they need at
- 45:29least 7 minimum 7 Democrats to grow across part, go across the
- 45:36aisle and get behind the Clarity Act once it passes that 60 vote,
- 45:4160 vote threshold. There's an extremely high
- 45:44probability that this will get signed into law in the nick of
- 45:48time, right? And remember what executive
- 45:51chairman of Hive Digital Technologies, Bulldog Homes, AKA
- 45:55Frank Holmes said. He said that if Clarity Act
- 45:58passes, he expects 200 $50,000 Bitcoin.
- 46:04So what else happened on the other side?
- 46:07White House Ames for July 4th deadline to pass the crypto
- 46:12structure bill. Man, I got to give a shout out
- 46:15to my boy Pepe bro digital 1776 G money G money G money G money
- 46:21Pepe G money Pepe digital 1776 guys digital 1776 This is crazy.
- 46:29This is a very symbolic date right?
- 46:31Again, breaking from the system that we have now, which is the
- 46:37system that was established in 1913, right, the central banking
- 46:42system that again during the central banking era of the
- 46:45United States, we had the two largest world wars in world
- 46:49history. We had the biggest depression in
- 46:52world history. We had the greatest recession in
- 46:54world history. And remember, the central bank
- 47:00was promoted to the American people to promote stability in
- 47:07the markets. It clearly did not do that,
- 47:11right? So, you know, and then this
- 47:14reminds me of the Hyatt quote, right, which is it's too well
- 47:20entrenched. The incentives are too strong
- 47:24for politicians to vote down the central bank because
- 47:30fundamentally the central bank is what's funding the US
- 47:32government's, what's funding the deficit spending.
- 47:35So again, it it no one is better than their incentives.
- 47:38So to quote Hayek, you have to find a clear roundabout way, you
- 47:43know, to get money out of the hands of government.
- 47:46So I think it's very symbolic that the White House is saying
- 47:49July 4th is the deadline to pass the crypto market structure
- 47:54bill. And also it is going to be, I
- 47:57believe the 250 year anniversary of the United States of America.
- 48:03How symbolic would that be, right?
- 48:06How how epic would that be? The first pro Bitcoin president
- 48:11almost assassinated twice. He had the Epic 3.
- 48:15Like 3 or 4. Times.
- 48:16Oh yeah, Now it's three times. That's right now that he's
- 48:19president that that that time just happened.
- 48:22And then he had the epic fight, fight, fight, you know, saying
- 48:26so again, this is this is full circle, full circle.
- 48:34Opti take it for a SEC. Yeah, so obviously I like the
- 48:44memetics here. I I did see that this morning.
- 48:46I thought that was really interesting as well.
- 48:48The White House saying July 4th obviously the implications are
- 48:53it it's like the Always Sunny you know it's the implications
- 48:56of the thing that is the most interesting or maybe the
- 49:00significance of it the symbolism of it, which I think is the most
- 49:04interesting aspect of this. Obviously, you know shouts out
- 49:07to our boy G money digital 1776 and in in the context of this
- 49:14obviously July 4th 1776 where the US claimed their
- 49:18independence from Britain. Now, if this does pass on that
- 49:22day, it would be a new form of independence.
- 49:26Now obviously there's a lot of contention about what's going to
- 49:30actually be in the bill. If it's going to really help a
- 49:33lot of people, well, rather help the Bitcoin industry per SE in
- 49:37particular versus the quote digital assets industry.
- 49:41But the significance, the symbolism is probably the
- 49:45biggest tell here at least maybe the biggest signal.
- 49:47The biggest take away that I'm getting from this is if it does
- 49:50pass on July 4th of 2026, then is that not fundamentally
- 49:58ushering in a financial independence here, which I think
- 50:02obviously I don't necessarily have to spell out the symbolism
- 50:06here. But anyways, on that note, what
- 50:09I will say that is a bit cynical in regards to the Clarity Act
- 50:13actually passing. I know the betting odds are
- 50:14getting better. They have basically flipped on a
- 50:17dime. You know, Friday it looked like
- 50:20it was good. Then by Monday, Tuesday it was
- 50:23like, oh, it's not going that good.
- 50:26And now we are seeing that, like I said yesterday, the clock is
- 50:31ticking. So to give you kind of a time
- 50:34frame here, they've been saying markup's going to happen by next
- 50:38Monday. And then there's an interesting
- 50:42article this morning in Politico.
- 50:44It was called Wall Street is Losing Its Crypto War.
- 50:46And it's basically saying the banks are running out of time.
- 50:50They're trying, they're trying, you know, they're trying to
- 50:54fight the crypto industry. They're trying to fight the
- 50:57Clarity Act, but they don't have that much time.
- 51:01And they might have to basically push this through.
- 51:05And then they'll do some stuff on the back end, which usually
- 51:07isn't a good, you know, a good plan here.
- 51:10But we do know that the Senate session is basically only going
- 51:15to be for the first two weeks. So this next, if it, if it
- 51:18doesn't, the market bill doesn't happen by next week.
- 51:21We're going to have a two week break, 2 week relief of talking
- 51:25about the Clarity Act because they're not coming back until
- 51:28June. And then they got a very short
- 51:31time window here to get it passed by July 4th.
- 51:35So again, the clock is ticking. And if it doesn't happen by July
- 51:394th, like the White House once I've heard them say by August,
- 51:43but again, they take another break in August and then by the
- 51:49time they come back, it's the midterms again.
- 51:52So if this doesn't happen in the summer months, I, I think we
- 51:58could all venture, no matter what the prediction markets are
- 52:02suggesting that it's probably not going to happen this year.
- 52:05But again, you know, put your money where your mouth is.
- 52:08And I did see another metric the other day, which I find to be
- 52:12probably the most interesting aspect of all this.
- 52:15I don't know if you guys saw this, but it said only the top
- 52:181% on prediction markets make money.
- 52:21And everyone's basically out there on Twitter and talking
- 52:24about, it's like, yo, they're just insider trading on these
- 52:28prediction markets. So it might not necessarily be
- 52:31that you're getting the best clear data here in terms of, oh,
- 52:36this is what the collective consciousness is thinking.
- 52:40The main signal here might just be that the insiders know this
- 52:44is going to happen and they're putting their money up so they
- 52:47can make even more money. So I guess it's looking a little
- 52:52better than it did a couple of weeks ago, but the the time is
- 52:55running out because there are going to be a lot of breaks in
- 52:58the next couple of months and then the midterm cycle is coming
- 53:03back in. So, you know, I, I appreciate
- 53:06all the work that all of the bit corners have been doing.
- 53:08I appreciate the fact that it this is bipartisan.
- 53:11Actually, Nico, before I move on, I did see Senator Lummis
- 53:15tweet in regards to this this morning.
- 53:17Let me see, did I put it in our show notes?
- 53:20Yeah, here we go. All right, let me pull it up.
- 53:21This is also breaking this morning.
- 53:24Here's Senator Lummis's take on it, which I, I think does give
- 53:28us a little more context of what's going on.
- 53:31So Senator Lummus tweeted, the American people have made it
- 53:33clear America should lead the way on digital assets.
- 53:36Let's secure our financial future for generations.
- 53:38Come, let's get clarity done now.
- 53:40Now, obviously we've heard that before, but she's quote,
- 53:44tweeting the statistics here, which are very interesting.
- 53:47And it goes support for the Clarity Act crosses party lines,
- 53:5052% support, only 11% oppose net support, plus 48 Democrats, plus
- 53:5743 Republicans and plus 32 independents.
- 54:00Voters obviously overwhelmingly favor clear rules and consumer
- 54:04protections for digital assets. So it's, you know, again, shouts
- 54:11out to the hard work of Senator Lummis, to Bitcoin Policy
- 54:14Institute, to the Satoshi Action Fund, to all of the Bitcoiners
- 54:18that have been lobbying, I guess, for lack of better term.
- 54:22Simply to simply Bitcoin for. For our tweets.
- 54:25No. I'm joking.
- 54:26I'm joking, but shouts out to every bitcoiner far more than I
- 54:31know I'm. I know I'm just trolling so I
- 54:34just want to say like a huge shout out to every.
- 54:37Everybody is a combined effort of the entire Bitcoin community.
- 54:41And do you want to give a shout out again to BPI, to Dennis
- 54:45Porter, Satoshi Action Fund, to Senator Cynthia Lummis?
- 54:50To other senators too there's a lot to name to Bitcoin magazine
- 54:55as well coin mag exactly so if it does get pushed through I
- 54:59would say I I like I I hate to I hate to say this and I'm
- 55:03probably going to get clipped out of out of context here, but
- 55:06we do have to you know give the devil its due Coinbase as well
- 55:12you know even even finance here, you know like they're they're
- 55:16they are actively working towards this and you know I hate
- 55:20to say it you guys are going to call me a shit corner in the
- 55:22chat I know but this has been a collective effort.
- 55:25If it does get over the line, then every single bitcoiner I
- 55:28think can pat themselves on the back because it it hasn't just
- 55:31been, you know, a select few people.
- 55:33So we'll see. We'll see.
- 55:34I'm I'm not really holding my breath, but.
- 55:36Absolutely, but it's 70% odds, ladies and gentlemen, for the
- 55:39Clarity Act. And again, Frank Holmes, 250K
- 55:41Bitcoin if it passes, really, really exciting stuff, guys.
- 55:45We're going to be right back after the break.
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- 57:29We've been hearing about the big print happening for a long, long
- 57:33time from Bitcoiners now. We aren't at the quote on quote
- 57:39big print moment yet, but we are starting to see signals of this
- 57:45not QEQE phenomenon playing out in real time.
- 57:49And obviously we all know Jerome Powell's out here very soon.
- 57:54Things can fundamentally shift. We know that when Kevin Wash
- 57:58goes in, he's probably going to do Trump's bidding.
- 58:01At least that's kind of the common consensus here, which
- 58:05means lower interest rates and probably the money printer
- 58:08finally gets turned on. But we are starting to see the
- 58:12expansion of the balance sheet. So first and foremost, shouts
- 58:17out to the boys or I don't even know who's over at Kobayashi
- 58:20letter, but the Fed is loading up on U.S.
- 58:24Treasuries. You can see Feds holdings are
- 58:26finally increasing, guys. They have started increasing all
- 58:31of this year. So not only do we have the
- 58:33ISMPMI expansion, which is basically, you know, quantifying
- 58:39the economy, whether it's in contraction or expansion,
- 58:41whether people feel like things are growing or, you know, we got
- 58:45to kind of tighten our belts here.
- 58:47But we are now seeing that the Fed's balance sheet is going up.
- 58:51Now I have, you know, Nico has made fun of me a few times on
- 58:55the show saying that Opti doesn't care about the middle
- 58:57class because I keep saying that like, they're going to print
- 58:59money. They're going to print money.
- 59:01Your purchasing power is going to get decimated.
- 59:04Well, we have the data here, guys. the Fed is increasing its
- 59:08U.S. Treasury.
- 59:08They're basically, you know, printing their own money.
- 59:11It's like one of these things is I'll sell you something.
- 59:15It's, it's basically like an auction, you know, like a, like
- 59:17an art auction. I'll, I'll create a painting
- 59:20that is worth nothing. I'll have someone bid up the
- 59:23painting. I'll buy the painting from
- 59:26myself. And I just magically made, you
- 59:27know, $10 million. You can think of it in this
- 59:30term. They're printing money, creating
- 59:31money out of thin air, and then they're buying it back for
- 59:33themselves to give it a market price.
- 59:35They are expanding the money supply.
- 59:37But this is not just happening in the US.
- 59:41This is a very interesting quote and shouts out the Bitcoin news
- 59:44for this one because I missed this this morning.
- 59:46This is absolutely crazy when you consider the implications of
- 59:50the yen Kerry trade going on. And here is a quote the This guy
- 59:58is Takisha Fuji Fujimaki, former Japan head of Morgan Bank, now
- 1:00:04JP Morgan Chase. And the quote is the countdown
- 1:00:07to the worthlessness of the Japanese yen has begun.
- 1:00:10Prime Minister Takashi's forbidden prescription to wipe
- 1:00:14out the 1300 and $42 trillion or trillion yen debt.
- 1:00:21It's guys, the big print, the literal idea of a
- 1:00:27hyperinflationary scenario is like at the finish line or at
- 1:00:33the beginning line here. And this, this guy again, what's
- 1:00:36isn't Takashi Fujimaki basically said to prepare for
- 1:00:40hyperinflation, that they are doing an inflation tax on the
- 1:00:44people, that the only way they can get out of debt is by
- 1:00:47inflating their debt away, which is what we've been saying.
- 1:00:52This is what bitcoiners have been saying forever, that the
- 1:00:54big print is on the horizon. Now, if this was just two
- 1:01:00isolated scenarios, then you probably it it probably wouldn't
- 1:01:06be that big of a news. It probably wouldn't be one of
- 1:01:09those like, OK, yeah, I know if it's smoke, that means they're
- 1:01:12fire. But here is like there is
- 1:01:15definitely fire because you got to understand Japan for the
- 1:01:21longest time has basically been the venture capital central Bank
- 1:01:25of the world. If now they're starting to
- 1:01:29prepare for a hyperinflationary scenario, they're going to
- 1:01:33inflate, inflate their debt away.
- 1:01:35That is going to without a doubt, 100% have contagion to
- 1:01:41every other country in the world.
- 1:01:43If the US, Japan, all the big economies in the world, the G7
- 1:01:49nations of the world are all in this scenario where they have to
- 1:01:53expand their balance sheet or else you do not want to be
- 1:01:58holding Fiat currencies right now.
- 1:02:00They're basically telling you, yeah, we got to print a boatload
- 1:02:05of money here. And again, Japan is 100%.
- 1:02:10Oh, I wouldn't say maybe 100%, but totally intertwined with our
- 1:02:16economy in the US, Western economies in Europe, the G7
- 1:02:20nations, Japan has basically been the almost interest free
- 1:02:27loaner of the world. You take money from Japan, the
- 1:02:30yen carry trade. You take, you take money from
- 1:02:32Japan, you invested in your economy.
- 1:02:35The interest payments were super low.
- 1:02:37They were super long. Now they're getting to a point
- 1:02:40where it looked like last week, I believe it was last week, they
- 1:02:43were selling U.S. Treasuries because they're
- 1:02:46trying to prop up the yen. If we're if we're in this
- 1:02:50scenario where they're trying to protect their currencies, this
- 1:02:55could get out of hand very quickly.
- 1:02:57The big print might be on the horizon here.
- 1:03:00We are starting to see central bank balance sheets expand.
- 1:03:04So like, I'm not, I'm not here to doom.
- 1:03:08I'm just saying you see this stuff and it not just this, you
- 1:03:14know, technical phenomenon happening, but at the scale that
- 1:03:18it is happening and you compare it to the last time we had a
- 1:03:21financial crisis in O 8. This is going to blow it out of
- 1:03:25the water. But for most of you guys here,
- 1:03:28if you hang out with us every single day, you're obviously in
- 1:03:30Bitcoin, you are protected, but things could get very brutal for
- 1:03:35everything. Now that is of course the doomer
- 1:03:37perspective, the, the pro, the, the clear pill, the white pill
- 1:03:43perspective, the orange pill perspective here is always the
- 1:03:47same. More dollars buying for value
- 1:03:49for the same amount of value means number has to go up.
- 1:03:54That's, that's the simple of this.
- 1:03:57That's, that's the simple math of what's going to happen.
- 1:04:00But the balance sheet expansion from the central bank, they're
- 1:04:05gonna destroy purchasing power. And we we know that that's what
- 1:04:08they wanna do. So it's crazy.
- 1:04:10It's. Infinity divided by 21 million,
- 1:04:11baby. So, you know, the more money
- 1:04:13they print. This is why Satoshi literally
- 1:04:15created Bitcoin, right? It's in the in the genesis block
- 1:04:19chancellor on the brink of the second bailout for banks
- 1:04:21alluding to money printing, right?
- 1:04:23This is what Bitcoin was literally made for.
- 1:04:27So, you know, they inevitably are going to print money.
- 1:04:30Lynn Alden Nothing stops this train.
- 1:04:32Larry Leopard, the big print, it's, it's really not that
- 1:04:36difficult to understand. The governments have to do this.
- 1:04:41They're spending more than they're collecting in tax
- 1:04:44revenue. And if you're looking at the,
- 1:04:46the news coming out of Europe, it's absolutely crazy.
- 1:04:49Like now the Netherlands is proposing and it looks like it
- 1:04:52might pass, I might add, a 36% wealth tax.
- 1:04:58That is bonkers. So instead of government
- 1:05:02spending less, they're taxing more, which is stealing more.
- 1:05:08I didn't say that, which is crazy, right?
- 1:05:12Governments don't have a tax collecting problem.
- 1:05:15They have a spending problem. And going back to the
- 1:05:18Netherlands, and I was watching a video on it yesterday.
- 1:05:23Right now in the Netherlands House or the equivalent of the
- 1:05:27House, it passed and it looks like it's going to pass the
- 1:05:30upper the upper chamber as well. But they're proposing a 36%
- 1:05:36wealth tax. And that's crazy because that
- 1:05:40means that if you have an asset which you haven't sold and that
- 1:05:46asset appreciates, you know, 20%, the next year you owe 30%,
- 1:05:54thirty, 6% on that appreciation even though you haven't sold it.
- 1:05:58And then what happens if the asset goes up in value and then
- 1:06:04by the time the tax bill is due, it actually went down in value?
- 1:06:10You're still on the hook for that appreciation when the tax
- 1:06:15day was due. So it is just bonkers.
- 1:06:18And they can't not do this. They have to do this because
- 1:06:21they're spending so much money that they don't, they don't have
- 1:06:24a, they don't have another choice.
- 1:06:25They can only print so much money.
- 1:06:27So now they're going down the let's tax as much as humanly
- 1:06:31possible route. And this doesn't end well.
- 1:06:33And the reason it doesn't end well is, you know what happens
- 1:06:36when they raise taxes too much capital flight, people leave to
- 1:06:41more favorable tax jurisdictions.
- 1:06:44So long term, this isn't a good move for Europe.
- 1:06:48If I was an entrepreneur based in the Netherlands, I would move
- 1:06:52out. If I was a wealthy person based
- 1:06:54in the Netherlands, I would leave.
- 1:06:56Like, what am I getting for that 36% wealth tax?
- 1:06:59Guys, this isn't an income tax. There's an income tax.
- 1:07:02There's a capital gains tax. Now there's a wealth tax, which
- 1:07:06as Opti alluded to earlier, I would say that is a form of
- 1:07:09theft because you're not selling.
- 1:07:12This is crazy. They're they're taxing you based
- 1:07:15on your wealth. It's not like you sold
- 1:07:17something. It's not like, OK, I bought the
- 1:07:21the SanDisk stock. I made 5000%.
- 1:07:26I'm now a multimillionaire off of like a ten $20,000
- 1:07:29investment. Damn, what are we doing in
- 1:07:31Bitcoin? I haven't sold.
- 1:07:33I haven't sold that SanDisk stock.
- 1:07:37The government that wasn't saying, hey, you know what, you
- 1:07:40still owe us 36% of that appreciation regardless of
- 1:07:44whether you sold it or not. That's, that's insanity to me,
- 1:07:48right? So again, I think that as we
- 1:07:52continue to transition into the information age, as we continue
- 1:07:56to disintermediate money and state, as we continue to
- 1:07:59disintermediate information and state, I think we already passed
- 1:08:04that phase. The Internet, you know,
- 1:08:07solidified that Europe still fighting it, but in the US after
- 1:08:10the Biden administration like and then after Elon bought XI
- 1:08:15think that that fight is we we definitely want a big a big
- 1:08:19battle there. But the the biggest battle to
- 1:08:22come is the separation of money and state.
- 1:08:25They have all the guns, they make all the rules and this is
- 1:08:30the ultimate test. Is Bitcoin going to win this?
- 1:08:33And I think it will if it stays decentralized and secure,
- 1:08:37because the only way governments are going to be able to ban
- 1:08:39Bitcoin as if governments all around the world in cohesion
- 1:08:45say, hey, you know, this Bitcoin thing is not working out.
- 1:08:49That's why El Salvador is so important.
- 1:08:51That's why the election of President Trump was so
- 1:08:53important, right? That's why Elizabeth Warren was
- 1:08:56so against any of these acts being passed.
- 1:09:00And the reason that she was so against all these acts being
- 1:09:02passed is because she didn't want Bitcoin to be integrated
- 1:09:08into the traditional financial system because she knew that
- 1:09:11once that Trojan horse was let in, it was going to be very
- 1:09:15difficult to convince the big banks to walk away from number
- 1:09:20go up technology. But as Alex Gladstein wrote in
- 1:09:23his famous article, Bitcoin is a Trojan horse for freedom.
- 1:09:27Number go up technology and freedom go up Technology are
- 1:09:31inextricably linked. You cannot separate the 2.
- 1:09:35So I think Netherlands is committing A catastrophic
- 1:09:38mistake. We've seen these wealth taxes
- 1:09:40being implemented in Europe before.
- 1:09:43And what ends up happening is that the governments actually
- 1:09:45end up collecting less tax revenue because the people that
- 1:09:49do have money, they leave to Dubai, they leave to another
- 1:09:53country, right? And then that's where the exit
- 1:09:56tax conversation starts being brought into the discussion
- 1:10:00where essentially, if you decide, hey, listen, I'm going
- 1:10:03to give up my citizenship for this country because it's no
- 1:10:06longer favorable for me. Oh, if you give up your
- 1:10:11citizenship, you have to pay a 40% exit tax.
- 1:10:14This is crazy. And then I don't have anything
- 1:10:16against taxes. Like I don't, I don't want to
- 1:10:19be. I want to go on record to say
- 1:10:21that because like you need, I mean you.
- 1:10:25This is a very hot button. You could.
- 1:10:28But it it you, you listen, I don't have anything against
- 1:10:31taxes. The problem is that the money
- 1:10:36that goes into taxes, there is no accountability there, right?
- 1:10:43We, we, we as the people, right, don't have an insight into how
- 1:10:48that money is spent. Like we had a, we had like a 20
- 1:10:52year old kid go to what was it, Wisconsin?
- 1:10:57It was Wisconsin, right? Was it Minnesota?
- 1:11:00It was Minnesota. I don't know.
- 1:11:01I remember. I don't remember.
- 1:11:03And he did better investigative journalism than, you know, the
- 1:11:07legacy media outlets. And basically he discovered all
- 1:11:10this fraud and corruption that was happening.
- 1:11:13Those are your tax dollars, right?
- 1:11:16So when you, when I hear a politician say, hey, let's raise
- 1:11:19the taxes, it's like, dude, but like you choose to look the
- 1:11:25other way when there's corruption, there's no
- 1:11:28accountability. But at the same time, you want
- 1:11:33to raise taxes and you want us to go along with it.
- 1:11:36Like, this country was built on the fact of no taxation without
- 1:11:43representation. Do you feel like you have
- 1:11:46representation of where your tax dollars are going?
- 1:11:49Do you feel like your tax dollars are being spent well?
- 1:11:53And do you think it's a coincidence that the same year
- 1:11:57that the Federal Reserve was established was the same year
- 1:12:00that the income tax was established?
- 1:12:02And you know how they sold the income tax to the American
- 1:12:05people? They said that the income tax
- 1:12:07was only going to be for the top 1% and the tax rate was only
- 1:12:12going to be 3%. By the time war, War 2 came
- 1:12:16around, the tax rate for the top 1% was 90 percent, 90%.
- 1:12:24And it wasn't until Reagan that the tax rent, the tax rate went
- 1:12:28went down. So again, it's not that I'm
- 1:12:31against taxes, it's that there's no accountability to where this
- 1:12:35tax money is going. The case California with with
- 1:12:43the the governor of California, Gavin Newsom and the infamous
- 1:12:47the, the, the railroad, right? That that was supposed that was
- 1:12:50supposed to be built. We all know that very famous
- 1:12:53case that happened, right? They built what like a mile of
- 1:12:57railroad and they spent billions of dollars.
- 1:13:00Where do you think those billions of dollars went?
- 1:13:03Like where do you think they went?
- 1:13:04Do you think they just disappeared into the ether or do
- 1:13:07you think they just took a little bit and you know?
- 1:13:10A lot of people took a little bit.
- 1:13:12They just took a little bit off the top and, and, and put it in
- 1:13:16the pocket, right. So like.
- 1:13:18Sounds like the red state. So like again like the.
- 1:13:21USSR. Like, I'm not saying that, but
- 1:13:24like what I'm trying to say is like, listen, I'm not making the
- 1:13:28case that taxes are bad. Clearly you have to follow the
- 1:13:30law. Clearly you have to pay your
- 1:13:32taxes. But clearly the system is
- 1:13:34broken. And I think that fundamentally
- 1:13:37comes down to broken money, and I'll explain to you why.
- 1:13:42As long as the government has the ability to create money for
- 1:13:44free that everyone else has to work for, there's a misalignment
- 1:13:47of incentives. And until those incentives are
- 1:13:51aligned, you're going to continue to see the same
- 1:13:53behavior. Not because these people are
- 1:13:55bad, not because they're twirling their mustaches and
- 1:13:59scheming and saying, ha, ha, ha, we got them now.
- 1:14:02No, it's because the architect, the architecture of the system
- 1:14:09incentivizes a certain behavior. That's all I'm saying.
- 1:14:13So anyways guys. Wait, wait, wait, one, one last
- 1:14:15thing. I I was going to add something
- 1:14:17to what you said, but we did. I did just see on Twitter a a
- 1:14:21breaking breaking NEWS UPDATE here in regards to the Clarity
- 1:14:24Act since we just covered it. It looks like it looks like
- 1:14:33they're trying to kick us off the show anyways.
- 1:14:35But here is the late literally 18 minutes ago.
- 1:14:38So this is the latest update. Eleanor Terrett scoop.
- 1:14:42The Senate Banking Committee is preparing to notice a markup for
- 1:14:44the Clarity Act as soon as tomorrow and has circulated
- 1:14:48draft legislative text to select industry members ahead of a
- 1:14:51potential Thursday vote, according to multiple industry
- 1:14:55sources who have seen the text. The language is reportedly still
- 1:14:58being finalized, with additional edits expected to reflect
- 1:15:01priorities from Democratic offices.
- 1:15:03One source told me the overall vibes after reviewing the bill
- 1:15:06and coordinating with other industry leaders are positive so
- 1:15:09far, though some bracketed sections are raising concerns
- 1:15:12that key provisions previously thought to be settled may still
- 1:15:15be in Flex. It's actually moving pretty
- 1:15:20fast. I'm not, I'm not going to lie.
- 1:15:21But yeah, latest update, Latest update.
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