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Camboy Femboy Frenzy · Rainbow Book Rats: A Queer Romance Podcast

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you all sucked at that and you should be ashamed
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i thought it was cute we did our best Brats and
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welcome back to another episode of Rainbow Book
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Rats, a queer romance podcast where four feral
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rats nerd out about their favorite reads. On
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this episode of Digging Deeper, we will be talking
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about our recent buddy read and doing a deep
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dive into a bookish topic one of us is foaming
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at the mouth to talk about. So grab a treat,
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settle in, and let's get to yapping. I'm JD.
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My pronouns are they, them, and I don't like
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blueberries. Were you talking about that? I was
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really slow on the uptake there and I didn't
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realize. That's my fact. I don't like blueberries.
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What do they do to you? I just don't like them.
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I wish I liked them. The skin? I try them often
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because I don't understand why I don't like them
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because I like every other berry, but every time
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I eat one, I'm like, bleh, bleh. I just don't
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like them. Yeah, I know. It makes me sad, too,
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because blueberry muffins smell delicious, and
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then I eat them, and I'm like, I don't like blueberry
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muffins either. They look good. They smell good.
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My thing's not a surprise to anybody. I don't
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like anything. Kit, that just means more blueberry
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muffins for you and I. This is very true. And
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I will look on longingly. I wish I liked them.
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Anyway, I don't like blueberries. I'm Kit, they,
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he, and all my favorite animals are super weird.
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They are. That's true. But we love that. Yeah.
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I am Megan. She, her, they, them. And I don't
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like honey. What? You guys are killing me today.
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That seems crazy, but... I kind of get it, though.
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Yeah. I'll allow it, I guess. I'm Katie, she,
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her, and in high school, I superglued fake vampire
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teeth to my mouth. And that's why we're friends.
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I wanted them to stay in. Like the plastic ones
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you get when you're in elementary school or like
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the ones from Hot Topic. She was in high school.
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They were sophisticated. They were obviously
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the Hot Topic ones. The ones you like molded
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with the wax. Yeah. But I wanted them to be real
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secure. That's amazing. Yeah. No one here is
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going to fault you for that. no i actually have
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thought about like actually getting like real
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like implants yeah like like yeah like real oh
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i love that i think it would look so cute it
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would be it would be i think it would be so cute
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in my face i think it would be too so today's
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episode would be discussion on our buddy read
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and then a deep dive however yeah so it was my
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pick for buddy read this time and it was just
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one of those occasions you know how sometimes
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you pick a book and it was a long time since
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you read it and it just isn't quite as you remember
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it like the things that i loved about it i still
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really loved but there were just a lot of problems
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with it that i didn't really remember and at
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the end of the day we decided as a group that
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it wasn't for us i enjoyed some of it yeah for
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sure yeah there was it wasn't like a like angry
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i'm gonna you know burn this book i don't want
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it it wasn't a dnf situation which for me isn't
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saying much but you know it just yeah yeah you
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never dnf we just didn't want to dedicate that
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much time to talking about it if we didn't all
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love it yeah yeah i'm not afraid of dnf books
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no me neither yeah i did finish it kate and i
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will do it yeah i finished it too crickets crickets
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instead we thought we would talk about some of
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the books that are on our tbr that have been
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out maybe for a while that we're really excited
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to get to read yeah yeah somebody save me yeah
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so i will go first i have three that i picked
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out the first one that i have is magnificent
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mess by roe horvat It is the third book in the
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Bears of Beauville series. I read the first two.
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I really liked them. Yeah, I'm excited to read
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this one. It just came out recently. So it's
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an Omegaverse book based on the title. You might
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be able to guess that they're bear shifters.
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Shocking. I know. The Bears of Beauville. It
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is about bear shifters. Yes. I love a bear. I
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know. Don't we all? So this one is about two
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bear shifter alphas who are friends and one Omega.
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who is a burned out superstar who comes to their
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small town to kind of take a rest. Oh, this is
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the best friend of the MC from book one, right?
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Yes, that's correct. Yeah. I actually have that
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written down so that I would say that. This one
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is described as. A book with an intense heat
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and a slightly unusual fate bond. So yeah, it's
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a grumpy sunshine. Well, the friends are grumpy
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sunshine together. Laurel is the superstar. He's
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been a burned out rock star and he's a lot younger,
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so it's kind of an age gap. Yeah, I'm excited
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for it. I love all of that. Yeah. Yeah. Same.
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I was just gonna say, I know it's a weird trope,
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but I really like a burned out character finding
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somebody to like help them and not be like, like
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Roman with Danny. Hey Bratz, Editing Megan here.
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Just letting you know that JD is apologizing
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here for coughing. I took that cough out because
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no one wants to hear that, but the resulting
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banter was funny. So I left it in. Enjoy. Yeah,
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me too. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry, you guys. Do
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it again and you're fired. Oh, mean Katie. She's
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here. The next one that I have is actually from
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my physical TBR. It's His Slender Embrace by
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Amanda Matheson. so good i know that some of
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you have read that already i wonder who yes love
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it it's so good Yeah, I'm excited to read this
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one. This is the fourth book in the Monster Match
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series. It is about a shy human seeking confidence
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after a bad breakup with a gaslighting ex. Yeah,
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fuck him. Via fantasy fulfillment. And the other
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character is described as a magnetic monster
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who has tentacles. He's a slender man. He's a
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slender man. He's a slender man. It's a hurt
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comfort book. And the monster, it says in the
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description that the first time people hear his
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voice, they lose consciousness. Yep. Yep. Yep.
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And they'll lose their mind if they look at him
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too long. Yep. Oh, my God. So I'm curious to
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see how that works out. Oh, it's so good. It
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is. I'm very excited to read this one. I found
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this book at... charlie's queer books in seattle
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shout out charlie's amazing bookstore they carry
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a lot of indie books there and they recently
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well maybe not recently at this point but when
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i bought this one they had recently expanded
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on their romance section and did an amazing job
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i was so impressed with their selection so go
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to charlie's queer books in seattle and i want
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to give two words for for his slender embrace
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oh yes train hentai yes fantasy fulfillment yay
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okay well yeah so that's my second one excited
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to get to that one and then my third one is called
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secrets and sake by cj ravina oh yeah it is a
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paranormal yakuza it's number one of a duet and
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it is wolf shifters insta love faded mates um
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It's a grumpy Yakuza werewolf and a sunshine
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undercover reporter. Ooh. Yeah. There's touch
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him and die. Yes. Oh, yeah. And another thing
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that was said about it is that it has searing
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spice. Oh, searing. Can confirm. Yeah. I'm excited
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to read that one. That one has actually been
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on my TBR the longest. And I keep not. going
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there and i don't know why so i was looking through
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my tbr to see what books to include and i was
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like this one i must get this one read so this
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is my push to myself to say like hey do it this
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book yeah yeah so those are my tbr picks what
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about you kit yeah great picks um so i've got
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one It is Becoming New by Annie Bennett, which
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is book two in the Isle of Donuts series. Yay!
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I love this series so much! So both books are
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paranormal, low -angst, cosy romances set in
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the Scottish Isles. Book one was so cute. So
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cosy, yeah. Right. So book one is a really grumpy,
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sad boy werewolf who's forced to take in a sunshine
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witch who's escaping heartbreak. They're stuck
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in only one bed situation in a small cottage
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with a whole lot of pygmy goats. who enjoy causing
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trouble yes and that book has so much hurt comfort
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it's got mutual pining and generally being ridiculous
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around each other and i just loved it they're
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so sweet together this one is another one of
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my communication kings tag yeah because they
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talk everything out together it's oh we love
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the best yeah so for this one What I've been
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able to work out from looking at reviews, looking
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at the blurb, essentially, so this is another
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of the werewolves from the werewolf pack. So
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he's a werewolf bookshop owner and he's really
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lonely. Aww, lonely boy. He's so lonely. Yeah,
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and he wants someone to do puzzles with and eat
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cheesy pasta together. Oh my god. Me too, me
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too. Right? Like, sign me up. And so his love
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interest is a socially awkward veterinarian human.
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Aww. And essentially they are both sweet weirdos
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who find their person like first as friends and
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then as more. Yeah, it's a friends to lovers
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situation. It's so cute. There's so much cuddling
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in this book, you guys. Oh my God, I love cuddling
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in books so much. Yes. Me too. It's slow burn,
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it says, and it's a demisexual awakening, but
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it heats up quite quickly after the first kiss.
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It does. And it's so spicy after that. Yes. I
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can't wait. We've got the whole werewolf family
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as well from the pack that we met in book one.
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But it sounds like we spend more time with them
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in this book. Sorry. I'm trying to support you,
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Kit, and my cat is yowling down the hallway,
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and I just had to mute to yell at her, and I
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didn't hear what you said, and I felt like you
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were waiting for me to help you. She's so mad
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that Matt hasn't gotten up yet. I think she can
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hear him on the other side of the door. Yeah,
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sorry, sorry, sorry. I said werewolf found family
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that we met in book one, but we spend more time
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with them in this one. Yeah, we do. We do. We
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get to see a little bit more of a few of the
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other characters. I love them. The whole series
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is so good. All the characters are so good. I
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just like try to get everybody I know to read
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it. Yeah, we met quite a few of the different
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werewolves, didn't we, in book one, but we didn't
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spend that much time with them. Yeah, no, not
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really. Yeah, only a little bit at the end. So
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I'm really looking forward to getting to spend
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a lot more time with the whole pack. Yeah. Yes,
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it's so cozy. And also the second book is kind
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of broken up into two sections -ish in my mind.
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And the title is a hint at why and what happens
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to make. to make that a thing. Something anyone
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wants me to say to them, but maybe it's intrigued
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you enough to go pick it up. Yeah, because I
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know that we learn more about like the backstory
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of the whole world and stuff as well, which might
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be what you're talking about. So that's really
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interesting. Okay, then, JD, keep your secrets.
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I will. They wouldn't be secrets if you guys
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would just go read the book. Listen, I got to
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stop signing up for ARCs and then I can... You
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do, you have a problem. I'm real deep in this
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Leighton Green hole, so I'm sorry. Yeah, that's
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also my fault. And I won't apologize for it.
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So the first book, it looks like it was her debut,
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at least under this pen name. If it was her debut,
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it was so good. Fantastic. And all I can say
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is that I really wish that the Isle of Donut
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was a real place because I would move there now.
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Oh my gosh. It seems so magical. Right. And just
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like peaceful and lovely. Yeah. Annie's writing
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is so, so good. I really, really love it. Yeah.
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So if you're looking for something that's basically
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almost no stakes, low angst, just really sweet.
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definitely check out this series and I can't
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wait to go and rebook too. I mean, I did cry,
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but I mean, yeah. Oh yeah. It's a bit emotional.
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Yeah. It's a bit emotional. There's big emotions.
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Yeah. Not angsty. So that's what's on my TBR
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coming up very soon. Hopefully Megan, what's
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on yours? I've got three for y 'all today. So
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I'm going to start with one that was recommended
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to us by a friend slash listener slash fellow
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books to grammar screaming possum reads. Yay.
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We love you. Yeah. Thank you. They commented
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on one of our posts recommending Orthea Rising
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by Atlas Laika. Oh, I saw that. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Got a freaking gorgeous cover. So, of course,
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I was like, oh, what is that? And it's a gay
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space opera. Yes. Yes. I'm excited. That sounds
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very fun. Yeah. And growing up watching Battlestar
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Galactica. Oh, I am very normal about Battlestar
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Galactica. That sound you made proves it. Yeah.
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Totally normal. As well as The Expanse, right?
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Yep. So yeah, it's a gay space opera. We're in
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like a queer normative universe, which we love.
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I love that so much. That's my favorite thing.
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Same here. And it's arranged marriage. It has
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a lot of world building with like rival feuding
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planet. And it's hurt comfort. And it's got fight
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play. Oh, fight play? Yes. Fighting as a love
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language. Oh, okay. Yes, please. and it's got
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politics and romance and rivalry and yearning
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and i'm all for all that yes sounds amazing And
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a transmasc main character. Yay. Yay. Next one
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I have is Our Dark Mirror by James Chance. Oh,
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yeah. And he popped up recently on my feed. And
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I was like, this is another gorgeous cover. And
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it's a supernatural murder mystery. Yes. With
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a hellhound. Yes. Yeah, I know, right? We love
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the hellhounds. He's sent to our world to recapture
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an escaped fugitive. And so, therefore, he has
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to team up with a monster hunter. It's Grumpy
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Sunshine in that the hellhound is like. this
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grumpy bad boy character and the monster hunters
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is like this sunshiny football jock character
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hopefully i can't hear betty in the background
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um so yes they team up to hunt down this fugitive
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it's one of three books supposedly the story
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doesn't conclude in this book but the second
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book's already out so it's got like dark themes
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and morally great characters and it's a slow
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burn yes yes that sounds really good yes this
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one's been on my tbr for a little bit and i'm
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super excited about that and then my last is
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uh residence by lily jane oh yes i keep seeing
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bunch of posts about this book and the art is
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so pretty for it right yeah some of the quotes
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i've seen as well yes right i know like i probably
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went with all really pretty books but no shade
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to people who can't get the pretty cover i see
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no problem with that i know exactly so yeah this
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one is a rock star romance so it's rock star
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slash ex -ballerina turned makeup artist And
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they like go on tour together. And it has a lot
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to do with emotional healing and recovering from
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addiction. And it says that it's a hard -earned
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HEA and a slow burn, but high heat. So that sounds
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good. Yes. That sounds really good. Yeah. And
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they have a sobriety pact. forced proximity friends
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to lovers all these fun fun things that i'm like
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just like okay yes please now please it just
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came out and i'm okay it's on my kindle it's
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on my kindle oh fuck i gotta read this book now
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yeah you and your arcs i know i did this to myself
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i like i love arc reading but not stressful not
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to sound you know higher than now but i don't
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do that I am very particular about books I arc
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read, and I won't apologize for it. I learned
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my lesson, because last year I signed up for
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NetGalley for the first time, and I always heard
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that NetGalley, it's super hard to get approved
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for books, but when you first make an account,
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your approval rating or whatever is 100%, so
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you'll pretty much get any book you sign up for.
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Mine was zero! okay well when I first signed
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up I was like oh all these books sound good I
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signed up for like 16 books and then all of a
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sudden like literally while I'm sitting there
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signing up I'm getting email after email I'm
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like oh my gosh I got approved for like nine
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books immediately um wow and and then I had to
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like rescind all my other things because I was
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like oh my god what have I done yeah I'm I'm
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just a commitment phobe so I'm like I I can't
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I can't be out here Just willy nilly signing
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up for whatever. I can't do that. Like last year,
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I was really good and didn't do too many arcs.
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Like you said, I just did ones for authors I
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knew I was going to read the book for. And then,
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you know, something shifted this year. Something
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changed. Megan is back on the bullshit. I've
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managed to get them all done and like enjoyed
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all of them. But I don't know. Yeah. I just got
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to stop. It's just a lot when they pile up like
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that. Yeah. They all came out the same time.
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And then the most recent one was 600 pages. So
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it's like. Oh, my God. Oh, man. So, yeah. Just
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to end this one up. It's a standalone. And it's
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opposite the tracks. And it's got lots of confessions.
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And like a roller coaster, you know, ride while
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they are on the road to recovery and working
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through that. And getting towards their happily
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ever after. Yay. Those are mine. Katie, what
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about you? Yeah. Well, I had to kind of look
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through because most of my TBR right now is just
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books that you guys have been talking about on
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this podcast. Whoopsie. Yeah. Or more late and
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green books. But I wanted to get back to some
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of the series I'm already in the middle of. So
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my first book is Kiss Kill Thrill Me Daddy by
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Lance Lansdale. Which we're going to buddy read.
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Yes, so that's book two in the Murder Daddy series.
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And if you remember the first episode, I loved
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book one. It was so fun. Just crazy wild balls
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to the wall. It was a good time. So this is Tatum's
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book, Scotty's Best Friend. And at the end of
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book one, you find out he had been kidnapped
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by Kincaid. And they've got this weird dynamic
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of Kincaid's like... I'm kidnapping you for your
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own good. This is what you need. And Kenan's
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like, no, I don't want to be kidnapped. But also
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is like, yeah, okay. Yeah, he does. He does want
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to be kidnapped. Yes. So I'm hoping for more
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disquiled shenanigans like book one. You will
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get it. This one features a lot of exhibitionism,
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which I'm really excited about. And there was
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one of the things in the synopsis was over -the
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-top finger warming, which I'm excited for that.
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It's like his comfort blanket or something. I
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kind of love that. Yeah, I thought you were going
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to say pacifier. It's a reverse pacifier. It's
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his assifier. His assifier. Oh, my God. Oh, no.
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But I'm super excited for that. It's coming to
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audio. It's in the works. Yes. Eventually. And
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I cannot wait to listen. Are you going to wait
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for that? No, I'm not going to wait. I'm going
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to. Yeah. I can't be bothered to wait. I need
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it. I will probably re -listen when it comes
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out on audio because I just did The House Husbands.
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I had read book one and then I got an advance.
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copy of the audio and i listened we listened
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to it oh my god crying down the highway it was
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so good oh no that's not dangerous at all it's
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fine i actually cry on the highway a lot if i
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think about it like we all have our places i
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cry i cry everywhere yeah This does not surprise
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us. That's true. The world is Megan's crying
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place. I'm just thinking of like the places I
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listen to books the most in a carpool. And then
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like highway and the driveway of my house. Cause
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whenever I go somewhere, when I come home, I'll
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just sit in the driveway and like mentally prepare
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myself to enter the house again. You have to.
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Oh my gosh. Yeah. Oh man. So my other question,
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question about the carpooling. Do you, do you
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listen to our audio books and then cry when there's
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kids in the car? No, I cannot listen to a book
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if there's the children, my nephews in the car
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with me, because one, I don't want them to hear
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my books. But two, I don't think they could be
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silent if it like if their lives depended on
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it. Yeah, they're not at the age yet where they
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can, where they know that they shouldn't. talk
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over an audiobook. The five -year -old, we were
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driving the other day, and he has learned beatboxing,
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I guess you would call it. Oh, no. Oh, I'm so
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sorry, Katie. I'm so sorry. He starts beatboxing.
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He's like, I'm going to do this until you stop
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the car. And I was like, we're driving. We're
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not going to stop. I don't know what you mean.
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And it's just bad fart sounds with his mouth
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the entire time. He's really passionate about
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it. I mean, I admire the passion, though. Good
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for him. Yeah, I'm glad he's found a hobby. I'm
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just sorry you have to listen to it while trapped
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in a vehicle. There is no escape. I know, it's
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rough. And the other one, the nine -year -old,
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is just sassy and he's always giving me shit
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because maybe once or twice I've run a red light
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on accident. We'll approach a stoplight and he'll
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be like, just so you know, it's red. That means
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you're supposed to stop. I know! The sass. Okay.
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My other books. So I just finished the newest
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release in the Passing Through Cafe series, Enchantment
25:51
and Envy. And I realized I skipped the prequel
25:55
novella. So Passion in the Pentagram is a prequel
25:58
novella. You silly goose. I know. What am I doing?
26:01
But it sets up the story between Quinn and Glimma
26:04
and how they meet. So Quinn is like set to marry
26:07
somebody, but she doesn't. She doesn't love them.
26:10
She doesn't want to marry them, but she's going
26:11
to do it for her family. And then she meets Glimmer,
26:14
who wants... I know. Glimmer wants to come and
26:18
start a cafe. So she comes into Quinn's office
26:20
and is like, I want to get this cafe going. And
26:22
it's their little love story, which I'm so excited
26:25
about because I love them in the books. Sounds
26:27
very sweet. They're very hot in the books. Oh,
26:30
yeah. No, I know. It's like Succubus. There's
26:35
not a lot of books I've read with Succubus, but
26:36
one of my favorite books ever is Maneater by
26:39
Emily Antoinette. And that's a Succubus. am in
26:43
love like i don't ever want to get married but
26:45
if i had to marry somebody i would marry l um
26:48
i thought you were saying i would marry a succubus
26:51
yeah yeah a very specific one that one yes yeah
26:56
um So I'm really excited to read that. It's a
27:00
novella, so it's short, but it's got, like, forbidden
27:02
love, desires, fated soulmates, and, like, a
27:07
matchmaking fake fiancé, which sounds fun. Ooh,
27:12
that does sound fun. And I'm thinking that you'll
27:14
get to see some of the other characters from
27:16
the Passing Through Cafe series, which I love
27:19
because I, like, my favorite all -time team of...
27:23
like little weirdos I just love the every one
27:26
of those characters so much yeah we love a cameo
27:30
yeah yes um and then my third book I don't have
27:34
I have like next to no information on this because
27:36
I don't like reading spoilers about books so
27:38
I'm just going off of what Storygraph has But
27:42
it was recommended to me because I decided I
27:44
wanted to do one of those, like, 12 books by
27:45
12 friends recs. So, like, I reached out to some
27:48
people, but I never reached out to 12. And I
27:50
have, like, maybe six recs. You did your best.
27:54
I honestly forgot about it. It's ADHD. Yeah.
27:58
I'm still going to read the recs. So Carly, Carly
28:02
Reads Clear, had recommended. I love Carly. Yeah.
28:05
We all love Carly. Hi, Carly. Hi, Carly. I will
28:09
see you soon. We should have timed it together
28:11
so we could all say it in one. Let's do it. I
28:13
can edit it. We can edit it in. Or we could just
28:16
say it now. Okay. One, two, three. Hi, Carly.
28:22
You all sucked at that. You should be ashamed.
28:30
I thought it was cute. We did our best. She recommended
28:35
Heart by Jessie H. Rain, and that's been on my
28:38
TBR for a while. I actually just got the audio,
28:40
I think. You need to tell me what it's like.
28:46
I'm excited for it. It's an obsessive swoony
28:49
stalker romance with a broken boy and all the
28:54
green flags. Broken boy, broken boy. Sign me
28:58
up. I'm really excited for it. So I did get the
29:01
audio of this. You went balls to the wall on
29:05
that audible sale. I'm going to go back. I'm
29:08
going to go back in for seconds. Good for you.
29:13
Yeah, balls to the other wall. Katie's hitting
29:18
every wall. My balls will be bruised after this.
29:23
It'll be great. Can we edit that part out? I
29:27
don't have balls. Listen, anytime someone asks,
29:32
can we edit this out? It's staying in. I was
29:35
going to say, there's a 75 % chance that no,
29:38
we can't edit it out now. Dang. All right. Well,
29:44
those are my TBR books. I'm very excited to read
29:46
Heart and all the other ones. Yeah. I can't wait
29:51
for you to tell me all about it. Yes. Oh, I'll
29:54
be in your DMs, all of you. Excellent. Well,
29:58
we are going to hand things over now to Megan,
30:01
who has prepared a delightful deep dive for us
30:06
on Femboy. Yay! Thank you so much for that introduction,
30:13
JD. You are so welcome. So. As I said, let's
30:18
talk about femboys in queer romance books. Let's
30:21
do it. Yes. Let's do it. So as we all know, and
30:24
as other people in the community have also known
30:27
and seen and experienced, it is becoming more
30:29
common for femboys, femboy characters to be in
30:33
romance books, which we love. We love to see.
30:39
And basically it's just, it's characters who
30:42
are either male or mask aligned who present.
30:46
This could be done in like the form of wearing
30:48
makeup or wearing feminine clothing or even just
30:51
something as feminine mannerisms and physique
30:54
or the way they talk. Because as we know. Clothes
30:58
do not equal gender. It's so true. And so authors
31:04
who are including feminine men in their books,
31:09
they aren't doing it as a fetishization of queer
31:11
men. They aren't doing it because they wish they
31:13
were writing an MF romance. They aren't doing
31:15
it because it's what's popular. They're not doing
31:19
it as a kink. These are actual human men that
31:23
exist in. real life not the characters but it
31:26
is a gender non -conforming identity yes yeah
31:31
very a very real gender non -conforming identity
31:35
that exists in the real world can i jump yes
31:38
go ahead yeah uh so hi uh i'm kit So I've discussed
31:45
this before, but I am transmasc and I do actually
31:49
identify as a femboy sometimes. So, yeah, this
31:53
is, yeah, I am a real person. Hi. Hi. Hi, real
31:56
person kit. They do exist. Yeah. And I'd love
32:00
to talk about, like, why and what it's like for
32:04
me and why I think people do it just really quickly.
32:07
Yeah. Because, yeah, because here's the thing,
32:10
like, okay, first off, gender is something to
32:11
play with. in my view and i think in a lot of
32:14
people's views we're past the point where a lot
32:17
of people believe in these very strict gender
32:20
roles and you can't go outside of them i mean
32:22
women have worn gnc clothes for a long time now
32:25
you know there was a time where women couldn't
32:27
have worn trousers but we are past that time
32:30
and it men are starting to and mask people are
32:34
starting to be much more excepted when they explore
32:40
as well and wear clothes that are considered
32:43
traditionally feminine because clothes do not
32:45
have a gender they do not and this is so we play
32:48
with it and we experience things and it's not
32:53
a trans identity but it is about for a lot of
32:57
people it's about seeking that gender euphoria
33:00
um in their clothes because here's the thing
33:03
cis people can experience it too and that's what
33:05
i'm looking for because so much of the trans
33:07
experience is about your dysphoria yes yep wearing
33:11
the right thing can be that euphoric experience
33:13
and i wear a lot of mask stuff that's or androgynous
33:17
stuff that's where i feel most comfortable but
33:19
sometimes you know what men are masked people
33:23
We want to feel glam too. We want to feel cute
33:25
too. And a lot of those kind of clothes tend
33:28
to be traditionally more feminine. Or makeup.
33:31
Makeup is a fun thing. It's transformative. It's
33:34
empowering in a lot of ways. It's a fantasy.
33:36
It's a mask. It can make you feel really strong.
33:39
And I'm sure a lot of people, feminine people,
33:41
understand that too. And as men and masc people,
33:45
we can enjoy playing with that as well. Makeup
33:49
also has no gender. Surprise! so I think that's
33:54
where for me it comes from it's that fucking
33:58
with gender exploring how the two can mix together
34:02
because I am never a feminine gender I am always
34:04
masculine or gender neutral I just enjoy presenting
34:08
sometimes in ways that feel more traditionally
34:11
feminine also because the waistlines on feminine
34:14
clothing tend to be less restrictive and much
34:18
more comfortable So that's why I do it. It's
34:23
not gonna be the same reason for every femme
34:24
boy. But that's why I do it. Thank you. Yeah,
34:27
thanks, Kit. This is why it's important to also
34:29
have these type of characters in queer romance.
34:32
Because not only is it representation, but it
34:36
also helps other people kind of understand or
34:40
learn or maybe see themselves in that character,
34:44
you know. And also shows that, yeah, like you
34:46
said, you don't have to be one way. You can be
34:50
whatever whatever way you are. You can be right.
34:53
Yeah. So true. It's becoming more common, though,
34:58
for mask presenting and male. men there are a
35:07
lot of male men right now who are starting to
35:12
feel more comfortable yeah with their fem identities
35:15
well it's yeah it's just becoming more common
35:17
for them to be able to to explore more that side
35:20
of them and i think shaming an author for writing
35:23
that and i think shaming a person in general
35:26
for doing that is just we that you you might
35:29
as well be a transphobe in my my book yeah official
35:32
um so where did i leave off um this is our public
35:38
service announcement yeah stop doing that yeah
35:44
check yourself um yeah so basically at the end
35:50
of the day femme boys they are not a fetish they
35:54
are not a feminization kink which it could they
35:58
could be it could be a thing but Just because
36:00
someone's femme doesn't mean they want their
36:02
parts referred to as a pussy. They can also wear
36:08
lingerie and not be considered a femme boy. Like
36:11
Kit said, they're not trans. They're not always
36:15
trans. They're not enby. They can be cis. They
36:17
can be straight. They can be queer. We don't
36:21
make assumptions. With all that said, let's talk
36:26
about some books. yay so some of our favorite
36:31
books some of my favorite books and if you guys
36:32
want to chime in with some of your favorite books
36:34
if i miss any of them that have femboys in them
36:37
we have hothead by mika nix temptation by kiki
36:43
clark biker daddy by gianni holmes nightmare
36:47
for hire by morgan lysand yeah gray brian has
36:51
wreaking havoc and um or wrecking havoc It's
36:56
reeking. Yeah, I think it's reeking. It's reeking.
36:59
Gray Brian has Wreaking Havoc and Inviting Bedlam.
37:04
We've got I'm Not Your Pet by Faye Quinn. Felix
37:07
by Emmy Sanders. Good Night by Kelly Fox. Kiss
37:13
Kill Thrill Me Daddy by Lance Lansdale. Devil
37:18
May Care by Lark Taylor. Yes. Other than specific
37:23
ones I'm going to talk about, do you guys have
37:24
any? I have a couple that I would love to shout
37:28
out. One of them is Scarification by E .M. Lindsay.
37:34
Oh, yeah, I need to read that. It's so good.
37:37
I wrote a couple of I wrote some things down
37:39
like about it. Do you want me to share anything
37:41
about it or should I just move on? No, share
37:43
about it. OK, so, yeah. Scarification by E .M.
37:47
Lindsay is book six in the Irons and Works series,
37:52
which is one of my favorite found family series.
37:55
So good. But it features a bisexual, deaf, and
38:01
femme character named Amit. And he's just such
38:08
a delight. He has to hide that part of himself
38:12
from his conservative family. But he meets Miguel,
38:17
who really sees him and lets him shine. Yay!
38:25
Yeah, it's really, really sweet. Amit wears skirts
38:28
and lingerie and makeup, and he's just absolutely
38:31
adorable. I love him, and I love that book. It's
38:34
so sweet. Also, in that book, Miguel... has a
38:40
split tongue which i don't find very often in
38:46
books and it is oh my goodness it's very hot
38:51
he puts it to good can you imagine a blowjob
38:55
with a split tongue did you know that when you
39:01
split your tongue like that down the middle Each
39:04
side moves independently. Yep. You have control
39:08
of both sides. Yep. Anyway, if that entices you
39:14
further, great. The second one that I wanted
39:18
to mention is actually a book that I am choosing
39:20
for our next buddy read, which is called Pretty
39:23
in Peak. I'm so excited. Yes. So that one, it
39:29
features a plus size. construction worker named
39:35
Mateo he is also hiding that side of himself
39:40
from his family and he meets a daddy through
39:47
a daddy event who helps him kind of come out
39:53
of his shell and it's oh also it's His daddy
39:58
is blind, and I love, love, love the representation
40:02
in this book so much. Also, the nicknames Kitten
40:08
and Peach are used in this book. Kitten is one
40:13
of my favorite nicknames. Me too. And I have
40:17
highlighted this one quote, let daddy feel how
40:21
pretty you are. Stop it right now. I'm very excited
40:25
to read this with you. It's called Pretty in
40:27
Peak by Reese Morrison. Yes, we are reading this
40:31
for our buddy read next. This is my buddy read
40:33
selection that cannot be vetoed. Like any of
40:38
us would do that. Yeah, which, well, I mean,
40:41
you know, if you don't want to read it, you can
40:44
opt out. But this is the one that is decided
40:47
and then not the one that we're voting on. I
40:49
just must. you must read this so we're gonna
40:54
read this and we will have an episode talking
40:56
about it um eventually who knows but yeah those
41:00
are the two i wanted i wanted to shout those
41:02
out because those are like the two that really
41:04
come to mind for me when i think of uh femboys
41:07
yes love it thank you and i've got two if that's
41:10
okay i haven't got anything about them though
41:12
okay um i just want to shout out airborne by
41:15
quinn cameron which uh recently released And
41:18
My Everything by Jada Marks, which I talked about
41:21
recently on a previous episode. Oh, yes. Oh,
41:24
yay. Yeah. I wanted to add, I wasn't sure if
41:28
you, I couldn't remember if you mentioned it.
41:29
I know you said Goodnight by Kelly Fox, but also
41:32
Navarro. Desi. Oh, yes. Yes. We love Desi. I
41:38
love that book. Oh, it's so good. Also, Plaything
41:44
by Colette Davison. Yes. Yeah. I have to read
41:49
that one still. I'm really enjoying the Kinky
41:53
Housemates. I'm excited to read the next one
41:55
because it's got puppy play. Puppy play. Yay.
41:58
I can't wait. So the first one on my list is
42:04
a favorite of ours. Angel by Lyndon Bell. Yes.
42:11
The fate book. pause for kiel seriously i yeah
42:17
sorry yeah go ahead no it's um it's from uh her
42:23
camboy network series it's the third book in
42:25
the series and the camboy network is about a
42:28
group of friends who start a cam boy network
42:32
so wow i would not have guessed that no one saw
42:38
that one coming um but yeah we love we love lyndon
42:44
because she does such an amazing job of like
42:47
in these books balancing spice and plot and emotion
42:51
and tenderness and yes yes yes slutty slutty
42:56
feet oh yeah and the real foot fetishist is discovered
43:05
jd was this your foot awakening I don't think
43:14
I had a foot awakening. They just always knew.
43:19
Yeah. This one has a really great foot fetish
43:23
in it. Yes, it does. So we have Angel, who is
43:27
a teddy bear. Sweet, sweet teddy bear Angel.
43:31
Yes. Yeah. He's like, he's just this really sweet,
43:34
gentle giant. He's Reese's brother's friend from,
43:39
I guess, from high school. They were in football
43:41
together. Nope, don't have to sneeze. Okay. He's
43:46
like this quiet, sweet cinnamon roll who is just
43:49
kind of taken and enamored by Reese. But he doesn't
43:53
understand why. He's, you know, he's a sweet
43:56
little virgin who still lives with his mama.
44:00
and then we have Reese who is one of the cam
44:03
boy friend group and he's this like small fierce
44:07
Femboy, who left home at 18, as tends to be kind
44:11
of a theme in the Femboy books, is like his family
44:13
doesn't know him as Reese, the feminine dresser
44:17
who dyes his hair every week. His family knows
44:20
him as Ricky. And he left home at 18 and went
44:23
off to do his thing to become himself. He's a
44:29
pole dancer. He's a power bottom. And he loves
44:33
makeup and fashion. And like I said, changes
44:35
his hair color every week. He has beautiful long
44:38
hair. Yes. Beautiful long hair and wears beautiful
44:41
platform shoes. Yes. He has a very sexy heel
44:47
collection, which you get to see in this book.
44:53
So, yeah. Reese returns home at the beginning
44:56
of the book for his dad's birthday party. And
44:58
that's where he runs into Angel. In a vulnerable
45:01
moment, Reese tells Angel about what he does.
45:04
And Angel, for some reason, tends to become very
45:08
interested and intrigued by it. And one thing
45:12
leads to another. And next thing we know, Angel's
45:15
going to be joining Reese for some videos where
45:19
he's doing a... Where it is a... um well angel
45:26
thinks it's a gay for pay situation i was gonna
45:29
say it's it's technically a gay for pay but that's
45:32
not actually true because surprise surprise yeah
45:37
it's a gay awakening book yes and it's yeah poor
45:43
angel's just like so obsessed and not not obsessed
45:48
but he's just like enamored is the word right
45:51
he's just enamored yeah captivated i would use
45:53
that yeah yeah captivated by reese and he poor
45:57
sweet baby just doesn't know why but he just
46:00
wants to be with him and he wants to talk to
46:02
him but he's straight and he can't understand
46:04
uh his feelings why he's feeling like that yeah
46:07
yeah and so the tropes from this are the gay
46:12
awakening it's a virgin mc it's got First time,
46:16
size difference. Is it standalone? No, it's the
46:19
third book in the series. You can read it as
46:21
a standalone. You can. It's like those other
46:24
series, right? You can read it as a standalone,
46:27
but technically it's the third in the series.
46:29
Yeah, each book in the series you could technically
46:31
read as a standalone, but they're better together
46:33
because it's sort of a found family situation.
46:36
So all of the friends are in each other's books.
46:39
And if you don't know them, it's just less enjoyable,
46:42
but still very, very enjoyable, no matter which
46:45
one you pick. Yeah, they're all really good.
46:48
Yeah. And this one's relatively low angst. Reese
46:51
does start having feelings for Angel. Even though
46:54
he's like, can't catch feelings, can't catch
46:56
feelings, you know. Lots of whining. He just
46:59
doesn't want to break his own heart because he
47:01
thinks that Angel is straight. Yeah. Straight.
47:04
Yeah. But some of the kinks in this are, as we
47:07
said, shoe and foot fetish. There's quite a bit
47:10
of come play, including felching. Obviously,
47:14
exhibitionism because they perform all their
47:17
stuff on camera. um 69 which we love and then
47:21
i want to read a few quotes from the book that
47:23
i love i was sending these to the group chat
47:26
last night i love this book so much and they're
47:31
both from angel talking to reese and it just
47:33
it touches my heart because it's angel being
47:36
so lovely so the first one is no Reese you were
47:40
made to shine you should never hide how bright
47:42
and beautiful you are I love I love the way that
47:47
he sees Reese like he's I love who immediately
47:50
in the beginning he's just like so captivated
47:53
and awed by Reese and how like unapologetically
47:56
him he is and he just thinks that Reese is so
48:00
perfect in every way he really shows that in
48:04
in every interaction that they have together
48:07
and the second quote is i'll never let anyone
48:10
hide you away or cover you up or make you less
48:13
than you truly are yeah i chose this because
48:17
yeah because it's just like that's how that's
48:19
how this is how people should be treated by yes
48:21
i have i have a list going right now of Well,
48:26
I have several lists of posts that I want to
48:28
make eventually. But this book is on my list
48:31
for it's just titled Don't Change Who You Are.
48:36
Oh, yes. There's a bunch of books that have moments
48:39
like that. And this is this is one of my favorites.
48:43
It is. It's so great. So that's that one. The
48:46
next one I'm going to talk about is A Thousand
48:47
Cuts by A .M. Rose. Yes. As y 'all know, we love
48:52
the A .M. Rose in this house. yes yes so this
48:56
is the third book in the curse breakers series
48:58
this is the one i'm gonna read next yes yes yes
49:01
and i can't wait i know i'm here to get you pumped
49:04
for it and ready for it and it's the yeah so
49:08
it's the curse breakers series is that like an
49:10
urban fantasy series about it's kind of like
49:12
about this group of adoptive brothers who are
49:15
curse breakers they have the magic ability to
49:18
go in and break curses that exist in this universe
49:22
this book is fix's book he fix is much like daddy
49:27
fix yeah daddy fix uh he's like if angel was
49:31
a daddy like um is this action an actual daddy
49:36
book yes an actual daddy book yes excellent yeah
49:39
no it's not age play but it's you know it's daddy
49:42
boy in their um in their relationship fix loves
49:46
to um fix things he loves to like fix situations
49:50
he's the type of character who if something's
49:53
wrong he's the first it's gonna be like okay
49:54
what can we do what can we you know he's daddy
49:57
i think he's into personal curses isn't he Yes.
50:01
I think he's interpersonal. Exactly. Exactly.
50:03
And he's he's another giant teddy bear who is
50:07
covered in gorgeous, colorful tattoo. He's the
50:10
oldest of the Curse Breakers in this group. So
50:13
he's got he's got gray in his hair. He's buff
50:15
as fuck. He's yummy. Is it an age gap? Yes, it's
50:19
an age gap. So his newest job is helping out
50:24
a down on his luck cam boy. Oh, man, I got the
50:27
cam boys in this. down on his luck cam boy named
50:31
liam and uh poor liam is uh basically he's being
50:36
stalked and he's just literally everything in
50:41
his life is cursed um and i think it's in book
50:45
two that he goes to the curse breakers inc to
50:48
try to get help and then they're in the middle
50:50
of something important and yes i was just gonna
50:54
ask is this the guy from the club or from the
50:57
the fight ring oh my god okay yes he shows up
51:02
like basically asking for help and then they
51:04
have to turn him away and so because they're
51:07
a bit busy they're a little bit busy rude well
51:12
that's that's exactly what daddy thought fix
51:14
that daddy fixed like couldn't stop thinking
51:16
about the boy that showed up And they had to
51:19
turn away. And so he hunts him down, figures
51:22
out who he is, and shows up at his door to fix
51:25
things. I love this. I know. And so Liam is hesitant
51:31
at first. First off, because he doesn't think
51:34
he can afford it. And also, it's kind of hard
51:36
when it's hard for you to reach out, and then
51:39
you finally do, and then you get turned away.
51:40
You kind of are resistant to it at first. Yeah,
51:45
it makes you shrink back. exactly and so that's
51:48
what poor Liam does and he turns fix away but
51:52
fix won't be deterred and shows up at Liam's
51:55
house when Liam's gone and breaks all the curses
51:57
oh my god yeah yeah and so Liam shows up at the
52:03
curse breakers office pissed off being like like
52:07
you broke my curses like and trying to pay for
52:10
him but fix is like no don't let him pay for
52:13
it like oh my gosh um yeah so yeah so liam is
52:17
the femme boy and he's like i said he's a cat
52:20
cam boy he's also like a you know sad boy and
52:23
um such a sad boy and you know we love a sad
52:26
boy yes he is baby girl yes he is he is the definition
52:32
of baby girl yes he also is a dog daddy He has
52:38
his rescue baby named King. Oh, I used to have
52:42
a dog named King. He was my favorite dog in the
52:44
whole world. Aww. You'll love this dog. A what?
52:50
An Airedale Terrier. Oh, cute. I love Airedales.
52:55
They're so cute and they're so sweet. Aww. Yeah.
53:01
This is another book where it's the perfect blend
53:03
of spice and sweet. As we know, A .M. Rose is
53:07
great at writing tender, emotional relationships,
53:10
but also having the spice in there and having
53:15
the funny moments. The way they balance everything
53:21
is just so great. I was just thinking about book
53:25
one in this series yesterday. my ash my baby
53:30
yes and like uh with liam being a femboy it's
53:37
just kind of it's a great part of his character
53:40
and nobody really gives him shit for it it's
53:44
just yeah it's a fantastic part of his character
53:46
and it's just there yeah it's like it's like
53:49
a normative thing to them yes which i love yeah
53:53
again queer normative best kind of universe yes
53:55
best best best yeah and this one he doesn't have
53:59
like a family that he's trying to you know hide
54:02
himself from he's just who he is like there's
54:05
a scene i read last night where he's talking
54:07
is it's just a scene that's talking about him
54:09
getting ready and it talks about how he puts
54:11
on his makeup and then he puts on these really
54:14
pretty thigh high um tights that have little
54:18
pink bows on the back and puts you know wears
54:21
like these jeans shorts and this soft buttery
54:23
sweater and i was just like oh i love this moment
54:26
they just explained him getting ready and like
54:30
you know nobody was like why is that man wearing
54:32
women's clothing you know yeah yeah i won't give
54:37
too much away um but basically uh it's a slow
54:41
burn to get daddy fix it's insta lust but it's
54:44
a slow burn to get daddy fix and liam to finally
54:48
start acting on these feelings and fix is a daddy
54:53
who will be gentle and caring and sweet and concerned
54:56
outside the bedroom but inside the bedroom he
54:59
will pound you into the mattress oh my okay he
55:06
will restrain you and this is what is what liam
55:09
wants right so he will restrain you and he will
55:13
give it to you use his size against you in the
55:16
best way yep oh and there's like there's a scene
55:21
where liam is is on camera and fix is behind
55:24
the camera and it's just oh yes i love now that's
55:29
a micro trope i would love to see yeah right
55:31
we have that in always watching oh yeah by rs
55:36
mckenzie and lee mccormick Yes. I'm taking notes.
55:41
It's so good. Yeah. Katie's in her dark romance
55:44
era. So this absolutely must be on your list.
55:47
It's one of my favorites. I've actually been
55:50
thinking about rereading that one recently. Me
55:52
too. Me too. How dark is that? We'll talk about
55:55
it later. Let's not get into it now. Yeah. So
56:00
like I said, this one's got size difference,
56:02
age gap, tattooed fix. found family like one
56:09
of the best found family books series ever um
56:13
yeah and then exhibition of exhibition exhibitionism
56:20
as i say that again exhibitionism bondage um
56:29
it's another one that's a part of series technically
56:33
can be read as a standalone but i would read
56:37
it in order because there's an overarching plot
56:38
yes exactly there's an overarching yeah exactly
56:41
so um read and plus the other two are so good
56:45
anyway um yes also that there is there is angst
56:50
there's quite a lot of it yeah but it it'll hurt
56:54
but you'll love it it'll feel it'll feel yes
56:56
it'll be worth it yeah i love when it hurts a
56:58
little yeah well this will hurt a lot all I'm
57:06
ready. We need a sticker of that with an axel
57:08
waffle. And then the last one I'm going to talk
57:14
about is Breakfast at Bennett's by E .M. Denning.
57:17
Oh, yeah. And this one I just read a couple weeks
57:20
ago on audiobook by Kurt Graves. Woo -woo, we
57:23
love him. Yeah. And this is a low -angst series
57:27
about a father and his three sons who own...
57:31
and works slash used to work in a diner and they're
57:34
the wife slash mom passed away years ago so each
57:38
book is a different brother and then the last
57:40
book is the dad all finding love and it's just
57:43
such a sweet cozy like i said low angst series
57:46
that is just When you want just queer joy of
57:50
men finding their partners and experiencing what
57:53
it's like to find love and fall in love and go
57:56
on dates, this is a perfect series to read. I
57:59
love cozy queer joy. That's my jam. Me too. That
58:02
is Katie's jam. We have enough queer trauma in
58:06
the world right now. Exactly. There's a place
58:10
for queer trauma books. We love those too. It
58:13
is nice to have a nice little sprinkling of Drama
58:18
-free queer joy. Yeah, exactly. So books two
58:23
and three in this series have femboys in them.
58:26
So book number two is called The Jock, and it
58:29
is Colby Bennett, who is one of the brothers.
58:31
And then Milo Kennedy is a former drag queen
58:35
whose ex -boyfriend kind of shamed him out of
58:41
his femboy ways. No. Yes. So basically the book
58:46
starts with Colby coming over to his dad's house
58:49
and his youngest brother lives with his dad.
58:51
And so he walks in on his youngest brother putting
58:54
makeup on and dressing femme and his youngest
58:57
brother Taylor freaks out and tells him to get
58:59
out and starts being pissed at him and doesn't
59:02
want Colby to see this side of Colby. Oh my God.
59:04
I know. And poor Colby is just like trying to
59:07
find a way to let him know that what Taylor's
59:09
experiencing is normal and he supports him. And
59:14
he loves him and he doesn't want Taylor to be
59:16
mad at him for this. But Taylor's kind of like
59:18
embarrassed and is just like pissed at him and
59:21
won't talk to him. Yeah. Feeling vulnerable.
59:22
Exactly. Feeling vulnerable about it. Colby is
59:25
a CrossFit instructor and is at work one day
59:30
when Milo shows up. And Colby notices that Milo's
59:33
wearing makeup. And when they're talking about
59:36
it, he brings it up and finds out that Milo used
59:39
to. perform in drag so he kind of just like well
59:43
can you help my brother like and explains the
59:47
situation to Milo about what happened with Taylor
59:49
and kind of sort of reluctantly Milo agrees because
59:53
like I said Milo's ex had forced him to kind
59:57
of turn away from that life from being a drag
59:59
queen and from wearing makeup and clothing so
1:00:03
it's really sweet though because he agrees to
1:00:05
do it and he takes Taylor under his wing but
1:00:08
so while helping Taylor he also kind of rediscovers
1:00:11
and re -embraces that part of him and so it's
1:00:14
just fun seeing them support each other while
1:00:16
also getting over your asshole ex hell yeah and
1:00:21
this is a queer awakening book where colby thought
1:00:25
he was straight but then starts developing feelings
1:00:27
towards milo and it's one of those things where
1:00:29
the family is like uh dude we knew we knew you
1:00:32
were straight i kind of always like when there's
1:00:36
a when someone's coming out like and that happens
1:00:39
in a book true story when i was younger um i
1:00:42
like was trying to confess to my sister that
1:00:43
i had feelings for like another girl that we
1:00:45
knew and i remember like i we were in like the
1:00:47
back of a car just hanging out and i was like
1:00:50
i need to talk to you about something serious
1:00:51
and i was like i was so emotional about it because
1:00:53
i was really nervous and my sister's like yeah
1:00:56
i know like it's very obvious to everyone i know
1:01:03
my well my husband told me that i wasn't straight
1:01:06
so yeah so it's such yeah when it happens in
1:01:11
books like i don't know yeah to me that's just
1:01:13
a real response to that whole situation right
1:01:16
um in fact i was reading um am lindsey stick
1:01:23
around yes thank you i was just gonna say stick
1:01:25
around does that to you yeah jonah everybody
1:01:29
knew exactly jonah's like i'm bi and i was like
1:01:32
dude and then he's like oh so yeah so then but
1:01:44
because of milo's past with his ex he's very
1:01:46
hesitant at first to kind of get into something
1:01:49
and also he's not sure he's like is colby gay
1:01:52
or is he bi or is he straight or who knows everybody
1:01:57
else except for milo and colby apparently um
1:02:01
so yeah so the So that was that book. And then
1:02:08
book three is Taylor's book, which I love because
1:02:11
it's Taylor getting together with two of his
1:02:13
brother's best friends who treat him like the
1:02:16
princess he is. And that one's called The Princess.
1:02:22
Sweet baby. Yeah. Taylor's a plant dad, which
1:02:26
is like becoming one of my new favorite tropes.
1:02:30
I just started a tag for plant dad. I wish I
1:02:33
could be a plant dad. I'm a plant reaper. I'm
1:02:38
trying. Not by me. The cats would eat the plants.
1:02:43
I wouldn't eat them. I have a lot of plants in
1:02:47
my house and I'm responsible for zero of them.
1:02:52
Because... Nope. Death. But I do get to look
1:02:57
at them and they're very pretty. I bought a zebra
1:02:59
plant once and then I left it in the trunk of
1:03:02
my car for a week. And it survived. It survived.
1:03:06
They like the dark. I was going to say they like
1:03:09
the dark, but maybe not that much dark. Yeah.
1:03:12
And the heat, because this was like midsummer
1:03:14
in Arizona, so like 100 plus. Okay. Oh. You really
1:03:19
tried to kill it though. It survived on my desk.
1:03:22
It worked for like another three months and then
1:03:24
I over watered it and it. That's my problem.
1:03:27
I over water my plants because I'm like, I want
1:03:30
to fucking love you. Let me love you. That's
1:03:32
not how you do it. She's waterboarding her plants.
1:03:35
Love me. That's exactly it. Oh no. so who wrote
1:03:49
this book this is em denning and this is my first
1:03:51
time i've read any of her books so i'm definitely
1:03:53
going back there's a spin -off series from this
1:03:55
i was telling you guys this the fourth book is
1:03:57
the dad and an unhoused mc who the dad rescues
1:04:02
and brings in and gives a hot meal in the diner
1:04:04
which also love that microtrope like the unhoused
1:04:08
plus diner plus feeding him so yeah definitely
1:04:11
recommend this sounds really cute yeah it was
1:04:14
it was it was a nice like read for when i was
1:04:17
just needed something fluffy i did i did yeah
1:04:21
um and that's that's all i've got for today if
1:04:24
you guys have any more you want to say or anything
1:04:26
like that i i don't feel like you covered it
1:04:32
pretty well we love femboys and um we do let
1:04:36
men wear dresses let men wear nothing let men
1:04:39
and also we don't have to let them do anything
1:04:44
they can do whatever they want yeah and so can
1:04:46
everybody else mind your own business yeah oh
1:04:54
awesome well i guess okay are we doing outro
1:04:59
now do i Is that a good way to end it? I don't
1:05:03
know. I think so. Us just yelling at people and
1:05:10
telling them to mind your own business. And well,
1:05:15
that's the episode. Mind your own goddamn business,
1:05:18
okay? And stop telling people what to do with
1:05:21
their bodies. Exactly. Thank you. Let us know
1:05:25
if we have any femboy... books that we missed
1:05:27
and you want to tell us about them we could leave
1:05:29
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1:05:32
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1:05:34
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1:05:39
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1:05:43
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1:05:47
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1:05:50
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1:05:54
we take letters send us a send us a pigeon mail
1:05:57
oh yeah that's what i meant a pigeon smoke signals
1:06:01
think about it really really hard and smoke signals
1:06:05
if somebody sends me a letter by pigeon i'm keeping
1:06:08
the pigeon yeah be ready to say goodbye to your
1:06:13
pigeon but you can send us a pigeon thank you
1:06:17
Great. Megan takes a bow. Thank you. And scene.
1:06:24
Listen, we're four nerd virgin people. We don't
1:06:28
know how to end things. I don't know what to
1:06:31
say now. Okay. Those magic tricks where you throw
1:06:36
the powder on the ground and it's just smoke.
1:06:40
That's how we're ending every episode. We need
1:06:43
to find the audio equivalent of that. Yes. Oh
1:06:48
my gosh. Okay. Well, I think that we can use
1:06:50
just the normal pre -recorded outro things, right?
1:06:52
But we need to say goodbye. Because I like it
1:06:55
when we do a different goodbye. So long. Goodbye.
1:06:57
I don't remember the rest of the words to this
1:06:59
song. So long. Farewell. That wasn't how it goes
1:07:02
anyway. I used to not think it was a way to say
1:07:09
that. I thought it was like, and we are saying
1:07:11
goodbye. So long. Farewell. And we are saying
1:07:16
goodbye. You know, we are saying goodbye. I like
1:07:22
that Doremi song better. Love it. Anyway, that's
1:07:27
unrelated. Sorry. Bye. Okay, well, bye. Bye.
1:07:34
Bye, everybody. Peace. Bye. Farewell. Okay, but
1:07:40
also every time we do that. You're not supposed
1:07:41
to be giving the forehead kisses. Yeah, those
1:07:43
aren't free. That was not a forehead kiss. That
1:07:45
was like on your hand. A hand kiss? That's weird.
1:07:53
the lord kisses the lady's top of her hand i'm
1:07:57
the lord and they're all the lady and i kiss
1:08:00
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