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Show 72: Why did God create man and what is man's duty to God? · The Uncensored Catholic

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Y'all, welcome to today's show. Today we're gonna well, we're gonna get
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into a very interesting question. It's a question that well, I guess man
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has asked for a very long time, and it's why did God make man
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of? What use to an omnipotent God? Is man? Mankind? Humanity
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that has free will and is capable of evil and going against God's will?
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Why did God even bother to make us? And what is sort of our
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duty and response? How do we understand ourselves in our place in creation?
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It's not obviously you're not gonna take my word for it. I don't have
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any great theological insights. I actually gonna look at Saint Ironaus. Sat Irons
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wrote extensively. He wrote quite I think five books against heresies in the early
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Church. Particularly, he was condemning the Gnostic heresies that began with Simon the
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Magician. A lot of these same heresies you still see popping up today,
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the once saved, always saved heresy of many Protestant denominations. Sat Ironaus dealt
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with and what two hundred three hundred eighty I mean, he was already an
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issue and the early Church dealt with it. Condemned it said, it's absolutely
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false, unbiblical. Jesus didn't teach that. Well, you know, someone
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got mad at me just the other day for just simply saying, this is
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actually what Jesus said. You know, if you love me, you will
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keep my commandments. This is what Saint Paul said about how he was still
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working out a salvation in fear and trembling, and he wanted to finish the
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race and all that Jesus said. Many will say, Lord Lord, do
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we not prophesy in your name? Do we not cast out demons? And
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he will say, truly, I do not know you. But many Protestants
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still maintain that simple belief in God and that you know ultra call or Billy
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Graham prayer, Well, you're forgiven of all your sins and you're saved for
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all eternity, no matter what you do, even if you became a serial
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killer or robbed a bank the next day or totally apostasized, totally said you
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rejected your Christian faith that you had claimed or you know, believed the day
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before. If you went from being a Christian to a Satan worship for the
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very next day, many Protestant churches say you're still saved. The Bible doesn't
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say that. The Catholic Church has never taught that. The Catechism certainly doesn't
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say that. The early Church, those who actually learned from Jesus and the
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Apostles, said very differently. But that's one, you know that iron Ass
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dealt with was part of the Nasti heresy. Another one was about Sunday worship.
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You know, we got Torah observant Christians and Seven day Advenis and others
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that say anybody who goes to church on Sunday is a Satan worshiper and going
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to Hell. True Christians follow the Jewish tradition of the Jewish Sabbath on Saturday.
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Well, the early Church specifically said, no, we're a new church
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and new religion. We will celebrate the Sabbath on the day that Jesus rose
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from the dead. And that was actually written in the d Dok before the
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Bible was even completed. I mean, that has been the wall of the
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norm of Christianity since before there was even a Bible. I've done a whole
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show on that. I've got a couple of shows on that. Saint Ironis
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had to address that heresy as well. There's a lot. There's a lot,
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but this is a really interesting passage and it's only a page or two,
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so we'll get into that, and I think you'll find it very interesting.
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The early Church fathers. So much of just what we consider to be
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Christianity, not Catholic or Protestant or anything, is not found in the Bible.
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You know, there's very scant mentioned. For instance, of the Trinity
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in the Bible. Jesus said baptized people in the name of the Father and
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Son of the Holy Spirit. The nature of the Trinity is implied in various
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places. But the early Church are is who wrote and explained and taught that
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truth of Christianity that you know, all as far as I know, all
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Protestants believe as well, even though it's not really detailed in the Bible.
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They say the Bible learns early authority, but they have a very Catholic understanding
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of the Trinity. They don't know that, they just they inherited it.
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I mean, their grandparents and their grandparents, grandparents and their grandparents grandparents believe
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even the Trinity going back to when their family was Catholic, because there was
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no Protestant Church, which before you know, mid fourteen hundreds, and most
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of the world was Catholic well into the fifteen sixteen hundreds, and I mean
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most of the world's still Catholic today. I mean it is compared to Protestantism.
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We think Protestantism is dominant because it isn't America if not. Actually,
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there are more Catholics than there are Baptists or Methodists or whatever. As Jesus
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said, his church would stand till the end of time, the gates of
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Hell would not prevail against it. And actually those Protestant denominations are getting smaller
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and smaller every year. In the past twenty years, mainline Protestantism has shrunk
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by almost half. I mean, let that sink in. I mean,
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we think of America as this Protestant nation. Right on Sundays, we expect
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the Baptists and the Methodists and the Presbyterian and the Lutheran and etc. Et
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cetera. Churches to be full. Church attendance is actually down by over half.
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And in the next couple of decades a lot of those churches are being
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closing. Now. Granted, some of the members, many of the members
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have gone to what you would call evangelical Protestanism to shoot with the super churches,
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the Charismatic movement. But a lot of them have just left, and
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we got a major duty following in the stead of men like Saint iron Aus
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to explain to people exactly what the Catholic Church teaches and why, and then
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we can begin bringing these people back into the Catholic Church. We can begin
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reunifying the body of Christ. That is actually our Christian duty. You know
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Chantal the Fortune who writes from miss O day, wonderful name, by the
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ways, a beautiful name, being part French. I just love that name.
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But Chantal did a great article on the works of mercy and their corporal,
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corporeal whatever works of mercy physical and other words, and there's spiritual works
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of mercy, and all Christians are called to do them. And those the
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physical or the corporeal or whatever corporal I can't remember how I pronounced it,
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meaning of the body essentially physical? Are you know, feeding the hungry,
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clothing the naked, visiting the sick, and the those in prison. You
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know, physical acts of charity which were all called to the There are also
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seven spiritual acts of charity and among those and are correcting the center and very
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prominently instructing the ignorant or those with the flawed instruction, correcting and instructing and
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you we're all called to do that. And in order to do that,
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we each need to learn what does the Catholic Church actually teach and why.
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I mean, it's really important to have a working knowledge of the Catechism,
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a working knowledge of the Bible. You know, if you're talking to the
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Protestant you need to be able to say, they'll say, where is that
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in the Bible. You need to be able to open your Bible and find
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it. It's not that hard. Like I said, you can read the
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entire Bible, page one to the end of the Book of Revelations every year.
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If you read five pages a day, five days a week. Obviously
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you could just follow along with them the daily master readings of the Catholic Church,
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and you get the same thing ignorant. As as one of the popes
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said, I forget which one ignorance of the Bible is ignorance of God.
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And it's not hard. We should not seed the Bible to Protestantism. The
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Bible is a Catholic book. The New Testament was written by Catholics. The
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entire Bible was piled by Catholics. The early Church decided what books would be
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in it and not published by the Catholic Church. Preserved for over two thousand
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years by the Catholic Church. The Bible is a Catholic book, the Catholic
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book. Essentially, you take the Bible and the DAK and you have all
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the instruction that was given to early Christians. The d d K, as
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I said, is the teachings of the Twelve written before the Bible was even
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finished. It says, this is what we believe as Catholics, and this
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is what we do when we go to Mass, and we go to Mass
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on Sundays by the way, you know, well anyway, it's a duty.
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These these spiritual acts of mercy are the works as well as receiving the
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sacraments you know, that are going on which our salvation will hinge. Jesus
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said, those who love Me and keep my commandments will be saved. We
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actually have to believe in him, love him and do what he said.
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Just you know, say, oh yeah, yeah, I'm a Christian,
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I'm a Catholic, but I don't follow any of the teachings of the Church.
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And you know, whatever, I'm a good person. Well, there
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are a lot of good people that are good in their own eyes and the
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eyes of their peers, that would not be good in the eyes of our
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Lord. I hope not to be among them. Let's just try our best
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not to be numbered among those, right, So let's start today with a
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couple of questions and answers from radio. Replies the person who has been justifying
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his goodness. He says he's he's not a Christian, he has no religion,
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but he's a good person, right, and that's all that matters.
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He should be saved just like everyone else, if he even believed in heaven,
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which he probably doesn't. He says, I not only believe in God,
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I lead a clean life. Is that not enough? So I think
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it's the same person. Maybe they did have a vague belief in God,
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but they didn't They were not a member of any church, they were not
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Catholic, And I don't believe they would say I don't follow organized religion,
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as if there's something some kind of religion that isn't organized, as if Jesus
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didn't actually found a church and a point, you know, twelve apostles and
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so many disciples and say, you know, he who hears you, hears
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me, and he rejects you, rejects him. They've sent me many people,
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especially in our time, will say I reject organized religion. Show me
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your foundation, your basis for disorganized religion. Open up your Bible and tell
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me once, show me one place in the Bible where God didn't give ten
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commandments that people had to follow. There wasn't a ritual, a temple,
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a sacrifice, a priesthood, the establishment of the church, the authority of
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the apostles. Yes, the Kingdom of God is incredibly organized. In fact,
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organization follows harmony. You have to remember when sin and death entered the
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world, it caused disharmony, disunity, disorganization, which leads to decomposition,
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death and decomposition organization. Harmony, unity is the very nature of God.
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That's actually Dad was hard for me to come to. You know. I
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am I'm Irish obviously by part French and part Irish, you know, and
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part English too, and a few other things you can just you know,
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throw in the mix, right, but predominantly I mean, my last name
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is Carol. You know, we are very rebellious. Obviously, the English
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spent a few hundred years trying to destroy Ireland, enslaving over half the population
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genocides. We don't like authority a whole lot my nature. And also I
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have a lot of royalty in my family line, quite a bit of it
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British. Actually, I'm related to the royal families of England, well House
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of Wessex. I don't claim the House of Windsor England, Ireland, Scotland,
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Spain. Yeah, I related to the Spanish royal family at a lot
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of royal blood in France, Yeah, I got some French too, a
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house suburban, the whole bit. I don't easily submit to authority. Boy,
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I was a rebellious kid. I mean I was like, I was
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never like hyperactive or anything. I was never like acting out. But never
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once in my life have I willingly submitted to authority before I became Catholic.
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Even like if a cops stopped me for doing something, I would say,
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wait a minute, you're gonna give me a ticket. You show me in
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the law where I did what was wrong, and I'd start arguing with him
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like like a an attorney. Yeah, they didn't like that very much,
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but oftentimes I got out of it because I was really smart and logical and
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could see the falls in their argument, or they didn't have the documentation to
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back up what they were trying to stop me for andw maanytimes I was actually
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in the wrong, but I talked my way out of it. That's my
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nature. So being somewhat of an independent, pioneer minded, even an anarchist
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at some points. Submitting to the authority of the Catholic Church was probably my
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biggest barrier. I had to fully understand papal authority before I could become Catholic.
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I didn't have a problem with you Christ. I said, if Jesus
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said it's his body and blood, fine it is. I didn't have a
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problem with many many of the doctors of the Catholic Church. But actually submitting
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to the authority of the church was like, you know, trying to mix
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water and oil. For me, that was my big barrier. So I
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understand people to say I don't believe in an organized religion, But the thing
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is, Satan was the first rebel. You know, you don't believe me.
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Assa Lensky could pull up his book that was, you know, the
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big influence on Hillary Clinton and such. He was an anarchist, I mean
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a communist. He wasn't an anarchist. He was a communist, and he
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dedicated his book to Satan, the first rebel. You know that. I
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think it is a natural instinct, given the dignity of the human being,
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to bristle as someone else telling them what to do, right, I mean,
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it says in the Bible we were made the crown of creation. Jesus
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even said, you'll like God's right. We have an innate sense of dignity,
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an innate sense of personal integrity that I think rightly bristles at being forced
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to do something against our will. But when it comes to God and things
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beyond man, we have a duty to submit to God, because God is
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our creator, and everything upon everything there is hinges upon his will. We
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actually gravely sin if we rebel against God. That is in fact the original
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sin, both of the Devil and of our first parents, Adam and Eve.
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So once you realize if I mean, if you actually read the Bible
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and understand it and remember the unuch and the Bible says, I mean he's
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reading the scriptures, he says, how can I understand it if I have
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no one to instruct me well, right there, the Bible itself tells you
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you need someone to instruct you on what the words of the Bible mean.
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And the only authority on earth that has the authority I guess to be redundant
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given to it by God to serve that role is to Catholic Church. But
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this person once again says, I not only believe in God, but I
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lead a clean life. Is that not enough? Is it not enough just
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to be good? Well, they answer on one condition that you honestly believe
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no more to be necessary and have never had an opportunity of discovering the real
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truth. But if, for example, you have heard the claims of the
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Catholic Church and have refused to inquire into them, I could not answer for
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you. If you did inquire, realize that you should become Catholic, and
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refused, you would have less chance still, for you would be obviously insincere.
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That's the danger. That's why most Protestants will not open a Catholic book.
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That's why most Protestants and seculously this man. If you get into a
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debate with them and you say, well, look, this is what the
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Catechism says, and this is what satz Olan, so said it in three
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D and this is what the this is, you know, and you try
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to explain to them. They won't read it because if they read it,
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it actually puts them in more danger. And in a way they realize that
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they're afraid to read Catholic books because it puts him in the uncomfortable position of
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either having to reject what they believe now and believe what the Catholic Church says,
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or reject what the Catholic Church says, no longer being able to claim
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to be ignorant, and in danger of health. It's an untenable position.
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The person goes on, what is your idea of a good man? They
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say, one who is firstly just to all others, including God. His
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first duty is to render to God what is due to him. Secondly,
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and for the love of God, he renders all that is due to his
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fellow men. In addition, he must manage him self in his own personal
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life, overcoming with fortitude the difficulties in the way of right conduct and practicing
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temperance by restraining sensuality and other lower appetites. And that kind of gets us
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to the thrust of the show. Why did God create man? And what
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is man's duty to God. So let's look at Saint iron Aus. Like
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I said, this is like mid two hundreds, maybe late two hundreds,
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And I believe this is from book four against Terresey. He says in the
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beginning, therefore did God create Adam not as if he stood in need of
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man, but that he might have someone upon whom to confer his benefits.
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For not alone and accedently to Adam. But also before all creation, the
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word, that is, Jesus glorified his Father, remaining in him, and
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himself glorified by the Father, as he did himself declare, Father, glorify
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thou me with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
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Nor did he stand in need of our service when he ordered us to follow
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him, But he thus bestowed salvation upon ourselves. For to follow the saviors
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to be a partaker in salvation, and to follow light is to receive light.
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But those who are in light do not themselves illuminate the light, but
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are illuminated and revealed by it. They do certainly contribute nothing to it,
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but receiving the benefit they are illuminated by the light. Thus, also service
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rendered to God does indeed profit God nothing. Nor has God need of human
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obedience. But he grants to those who follow and serve him life and incorruption
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and eternal glory, bestowing benefit upon those who serve him because they do serve
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him, and on his followers because they do follow him, but does not
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receive any benefit from them, for He is rich, perfect and in need
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of nothing. But for this reason does God Demand's service from men, in
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order that sense he is good and merciful, he may benefit those who continue
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in his service. Forasmuch as God is in want of nothing, so much
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does man stand in need of fellowship of God. For this is the glory
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of man, to continue and remain permanently in God's service. Wherefore, also
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did the Lord say to his disciples, ye have not chosen me, but
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I have chosen you, indicating that they did not glorify him when they followed
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him, but that in following the Son of God they were glorified by him.
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And again he said, I will that where I am they also may
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be, that they may behold my glory, not vainly boasting because of this,
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but desiring that his disciples should share in his glory of whom Isaiah said,
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I will bring i seed from the east, and will gather thee from
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the west. And I will say to the north give up, and to
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the south keep not back. Bring my sons from far, and my daughters
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from the ends of the earth, as all as many as have been called
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in my name were in glory. I have prepared and formed and made him.
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Inasmuch then wheresoever the carcass is, there also shall the eagles be gathered
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together. We do participate in the glory of the Lord, who has formed
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us and prepared us for this, that when we are with him, we
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may partake in his glory. Thus it was too that God formed the first
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because of his munificence. But he chose the patriarchs for the sake of their
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salvation, and prepared to people beforehand, teaching the headstrong to follow God,
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and raised up prophets on the earth, accustoming man to bear his spirit within
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him, and whole communion with God he himself, and indeed, having need
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of nothing, but granting communion with himself to those who stood in need of
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it, and sketching out like an architect the plan of salvation to those who
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pleased him. And he did himself furnished guidance to those who beheld him not
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in Egypt, while those who became unruly in the desert, he promulgated a
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law very suitable to their condition. This is really important, and sant Aaronnas
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goes He'll spend a couple more pages on this. I'm going to try to
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sum it up him one. As he said, God did not make man
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because he was in need of anything. He made man, and indeed all
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of creation, because he desires to love. He desires to give his benevolence
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to his creation. Our duty, then is to love and obey God.
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In return, everything we have is contingent upon Him, from our lives,
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to our food, to the span of our lives, to our eternal destiny,
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et c. It interesting what he's saying here. Let me explain that
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he kind of caught up a few million years right, and now he's to
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the Jews in Egypt. The Hedrew people in Egypt. Apparently they had wandered
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very far from the law of God had given to Abraham the true faith,
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the faith I should say that God gave to Abraham. They had come to
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worship idols and to follow other God's false gods, so he says, Thus
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it was that God formed the first man. Okay, God formed the first
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man to live in communion with him. He fell away, God redeems him
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through Abraham. They've fallen away again, he says. But He chose the
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patriarchs for the sake of their salvation, and prepared to people beforehand, teaching
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the heads strong to follow God, and raised up prophets on earth upon earth,
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accustoming man to bear his spirit within him and to hold communion with God.
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This is beginning to explain that essentially the laws of Moses, the toral
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law, were laws to chastise, let's say, beyond several of the ten
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commands, which you'll actually get to this in a minute. You know,
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when Jesus was asked, what are the what are the essential commands? Love
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God with all your heart, love your neighbor yourself, do not commit adultery,
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do not steal, do not commit murder. Right, But the toral
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law goes far beyond that. I mean, first of all, the circumcision,
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which isn't in the ten commands. There's observed the Sabbath, which he
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is and he's going to explain in a minute here why that Sabbath was important
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and why it changed with the beginning of Christianity. There are also all the
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dietary laws and the cleanliness laws and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. That was
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teaching the headstrong to follow God. Then he raised at prophets who were told
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of the Christ go back to irons. Here he himself, indeed, having
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need of nothing, but granting communion with himself to those who stood in need
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of it, and sketching out like an architect, the plan of salvation to
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those that pleased him. You know, we say the Church teaches that the
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Old Testament foreshadows the New Testament, and the New Testament explains and completes the
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prophecies of the Old Testament. This is the plan of salvation that began literally
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after the fall of Adam and has continued from millions of years since. And
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who knows how long it's going to go. I mean, people like to
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say we're in the end times. A lot of what's said is going to
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happen, especially in messages from the Blessed Mother, tell us that we're not
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there yet. It's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
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Actually, but by the end of the world. By the end time,
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there will be no excuse. Someone will not be able to say I
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was confused, I didn't understand. That's a big thing. God gave us
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free will. And before the end of the world, you know, I
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mean, they say the Gospel has to be preached all corners of the earth.
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People will have to actually understand right from wrong and make a choice between
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following God and following say and right now, there's a heck of a lot
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of confusion in this world. There are a heck of a lot of people
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that call themselves Christians that are not following anything having to do with Jesus at
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all. And they're in our own church as well as within Protestantism, I
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mean very much. So all this you know, trans stuff, rainbow crap,
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you know, gay marriage. Marriage is a sacrament between a man and
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a woman, instituted by the Church. It should neither be a civil matter.
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A man and a woman should not be able to be married by a
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judge or divorced by a judge or a ship captain or anything like that.
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No, it's a sacrament of God. But by no means should a man
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and a man, or a woman and a woman be married, or a
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man and a dog, or a woman and a horse. I mean,
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you know, this is the craziness we're dealing with right now, because there's
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so much confusion. Remember all confused times from the devil. But by the
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end of the time, people have to willingly choose one from the other.
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And that means they have to be clear in their knowledge. If they're confused
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and they don't understand, they're not culpable. Remember, to actually commit a
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sin, you have to be culpable of the wrongness of the sin. People
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growing up in America in the year twenty twenty three, in our public education
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system and with our media and our politics, are so confused. They many
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of them do not know right from wrong. They have had no Christian instruction.
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That's my TAKEHOI In anyway, it's been the takecoent of many Catholic writers
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and well some Protestant writers. Actually, I think it to be valid,
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and if I'm wrong, God forgive me. But I don't think the end
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of the world's coming anytime soon. I think we're going to have to suffer
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quite a bit more before that time. And he did himself furnish guidance to
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those who beheld him not in Egypt, While to those who became unruly in
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the desert, he promulgated a law very suitable to their condition. I'll think
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about this. Our Torah observant Christians, and our seven day adminis the law
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that God gave to the Jews. He promulgated to a law very suitable to
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their condition. Specifically to them, Then, all the people who entered into
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the good Land, he bestowed a noble inheritance. He killed the fatted calf
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for those who converted, the converted to the Father, and presented them with
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the finest robe. Thus, in a variety of ways, he adjusted the
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human race to an agreementless salvation. On this account does John clearly declaring the
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apocalypse and his voice as the sound of many waters. For the spirit of
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God is truly like many waters, since the Father is both rich and great,
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and the Word passing through all those men did liberally confer benefits upon his
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subjects by drawing up and writing a law adapted an applical to every class among
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them. Thus, too he imposed upon the Jewish people the construction of the
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tabernacle, the building of the temple, the election of the Levites, sacrifices
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also an obligations, legal monitions, money. How do you prop m in
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I t I O ns I'm going to go with monitions. I think I'm
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a little off on that. But I'm getting tongue tied. Who's looking at
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the word and all the other service of the law. He does himself truly
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want none of these things, for he is always full of all good,
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and had in himself all the odor of kindness and every perfume of sweet smelling
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savors even before Moses existed. Moreover, he instructed the people who were prone
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to turn to idols, instructing them by repeated appeals to persevere and to serve
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God, calling them to the things of primary importance, by means of those
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things that were secondary, that is, to the things that are real,
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by the things that are typical, and by things temporal to the eternal,
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temporal to the eternal, and by the carnal to the spiritual, and by
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the earthly to the heavenly. As was also said to Moses, thou shalt
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make all things after the pattern of those things which thou sawest on the mount.
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For during forty days he was learning to keep in his memory the words
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of God, and the celestial patterns, and the spiritual images, and the
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types of things to come. And also Paul says, for they drank of
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the rock which followed them, and this rock was Christ. And again,
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having first mentioned what are contained in the Law, he goes on to say,
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now all these things happened to them in a figure, because they were
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written for our admonition, upon whom the end of the ages is come.
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For by means of types, they learned to feel fear God and to continue
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to be devoted to his service. Lot to unpack. There, lot to
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unpack, And I'm just gonna try to sum it up. God did not
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need man. God created man of benevolence. Man turned away from God.
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God gave the law to turn man back to God. God gave the profits
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to for sell the foretell the coming of the Messiah. And then Forsah.
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Messiah came and put a new law upon their hearts, which is to love
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God with all thy heart, and love thy neighbors as thyself, which they
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would have had, which presumably Abraham had the truth of Christianity, the truth
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of Judaism before the people became turned to idols. In Egypt. We'll get
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into the Sabbath, specifically probably tomorrow. But it's very important to realize that
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here Irenaeus, great early church father, in the earliest days of the Church,
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was saying that the laws of Moses and the Torah were only there to
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chastise the people, the Jews the Hebrews in a certain time following the Egyptian
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captivity, and very other than the basics which Jesus actually spells out. You
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know, love God with all your heart, love your neighborsself, don't kill,
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don't steal, don't commit adultery. Not applicable to Christians in modern times.
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So when someone says to you to be a Christian you have to follow
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you shouldn't need pork. A lot of people say that. You see it
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online all the time, and they'll pull up, you know, Leviticus and
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such, and they'll say, no if you if you believe in God,
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and they usually say Yeshua or whatever, which isn't I have a whole show
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on that Jesus's name is Jesus to a Christian, Yeshua is actually the Hebrew
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for Joshua, And they make some really grave errors there. Yes, Jesus's
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name was probably Joshua it could have even been Elijah, but he spoke Aramaic.
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His disciples and followers spoke Aramaic and Greek, and in Greek it was
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translated into something that sounds very much like Jesus, and in Latin it became
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useless, and in English it became Yezo and eventually became Jesus. There's absolutely
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no reason to call Jesus Joshua, and they would say that's the only name
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by which Jesus can be called, and only Jesus will be Well, what
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about the Joshua and the Bible? The Fifth Battle of Jericho. I mean,
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if you actually have some knowledge, you realize the whole tour observant thing
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is a ridiculous house of cards. But they do have strong faith and real
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belief. I mean, it's a very They tend to have a lot more
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integrity in their personal belief than most mainline Christians. I don't mean to disparage
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them in any way, shape or form. But the Catholic Church, I
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should say, the early Church, I guess to them, But the one
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church founded by Jesus Christ, which is the whole holy Catholic and Apostolic Church,
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has taught from the very beginning, and it says in the Bible.
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You know, Saint Paul and Saint Peter make very clear that Christians were no
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longer under Jewish law. But more importantly to this conversation is that, you
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know it said so easily in the Boston Catechism about you know, God created
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man and the purpose of life. Man's duty is to love God and serve
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God. You know, I think Saint has said it very well. God
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had no need of anything. He only wished to show his benevolence to creation,
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and man turned away. And throughout all these different error eras of humanity,
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the entire multi million year history of mankind, God had this narrative that
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would bring man back to the truth, culminating in Jesus Christ and through his
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Church. It's it's, it's it's beautifully said. And I think there's so
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much to be learned by reading the Early Church Fathers. Every Christian of every
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denomination should read the writings of the first few generations of the Church. And
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if they did, they'd all be Catholic, because the early Church was decidedly
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Catholic. They believed in the real presence the body and blood of Jesus and
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the Eucharist, priestly orders the sacrament of marriage, everything Protestantism denies. Yeah,
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no divorce allowed you know in the early Church, etc. So anyway,
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have a great evening and I will talk to you next time. I
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think we'll probably spend another day with iron Ais and we're can inst some more
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topics. Have a going