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Re-Release: The Beatification Of Dolly Parton · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: To the honky tonks. You gave music, You restored the
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  Speaker 2: line dancing that was once lost, sorrow stricken all the
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  Speaker 2: objects of your tender compassion when Joline did not, in
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  Speaker 2: fact take command. Even the poor URIs alive with your
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  Speaker 2: coat of many colors, cried out of them from the
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  Speaker 2: depths of the bitter anguish.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Saint Dolly.
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  Speaker 3: We adore the.
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  Speaker 1: Little preyer.
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  Speaker 3: You actually actually actually went very Benedictine in there in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of it, there seated.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't, It wasn't. I was going to keep it
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  Speaker 1: very like all things bright. But I you know it, it's.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, you got you got a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of harmona hamaa hamana.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Literally people, three seconds before
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  Speaker 1: I said those words, I went, well, I do it
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  Speaker 1: kind of priesty because I was just gonna say it
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  Speaker 1: like I said it out loud. I'd be honest here,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of mashed up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: another Saints prayer and small but I just totally robbed
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  Speaker 1: it race basically, and.
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  Speaker 3: Just well you know what, Thomas, not the only mashing
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  Speaker 3: going on, because we've completely mashed up with the intro
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  Speaker 3: to this podcast. I know we just came in all
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  Speaker 3: guns blazing as we're going to do without you even
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  Speaker 3: saying hello to the fine listeners of the Tom and
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  Speaker 3: Jerry Show, and you're welcome along to yet another episode
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  Speaker 3: of The Tom and Jerry Show.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually going to speak to this evening about
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  Speaker 1: how excited I've been all day, and I think people
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  Speaker 1: can probably guess that I couldn't even howld my piss
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  Speaker 1: for three seconds. I had to jump straight into the episode,
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  Speaker 1: start with prayers and everything. At the top of the show.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even ask you how you're doing. How are
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  Speaker 1: you doing? Grand Tom?
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  Speaker 3: I'm Tom. You know me. I'm a base level of fine,
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  Speaker 3: and I never go too far upward from it.
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  Speaker 1: Very how very very catholic of you, stoic that is
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  Speaker 1: in fairness, that's how you keep it just in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get too above your station. I'm I'm actually a
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  Speaker 1: little bit Italian today. I'm so I was lepping. I
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  Speaker 1: was doing bits and pieces around the place at a
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  Speaker 1: couple of little jobs too earlier. But all I was going,
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  Speaker 1: I can't, oh wait, chat with the bride this evening
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  Speaker 1: and we get into this episode. I was very, very
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  Speaker 1: excited by it. I don't know why. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was just just a giddy little.
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  Speaker 3: It's two of our favorite subjects, Tom, It's country music
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  Speaker 3: and the church, you know what I mean, stalwarts of
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  Speaker 3: our life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh if only there was a way to combo that two.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, you know, I think I think we might
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  Speaker 1: have fucking nailed. Why don't you tell the fine people
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to do this evening today, everybody, we
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  Speaker 1: are going to be investigating if the great Dolly Parton
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  Speaker 1: is in fact a saint. Jerry. When looking into this,
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  Speaker 1: we could have done an entire season and Dolly.
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  Speaker 3: Parton, and in truth, Tom, we were very close to
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  Speaker 3: doing a podcast on just on Dolly part of the
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  Speaker 3: same as we've done on Fred Dibner except for the
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  Speaker 3: chimneys and a few other changes. But we decided to
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  Speaker 3: know what will be what would be a nice tweak
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  Speaker 3: to it is if we actually drill down there, because
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  Speaker 3: like the words living saint are thrown around quite a
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  Speaker 3: lot these days, Tom, Yeah, and everybody will be saying
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  Speaker 3: that Dolly is a living saint. But is she? You see,
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  Speaker 3: you don't throw around saint. It's left right in sata. Tom. So,
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  Speaker 3: I think we've we've We've found the only fair thing
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  Speaker 3: to do is to is to get into it and
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  Speaker 3: see does she meet the criteria?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely so just a little warning before we get into
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  Speaker 1: any serious Dolly fans there. Yes, we are going to
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  Speaker 1: miss out on a load of stuff. This, as Jerry said,
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  Speaker 1: is not going to be a biography Christ and Christ
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  Speaker 1: above there's enough of them out there. Much like it
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  Speaker 1: with the Fred Dibney episode, it won't be a blow
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  Speaker 1: by blow account of her life because, like I literally said,
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  Speaker 1: you could do an entire season. This is what This
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  Speaker 1: was Jerry's idea. It was a great idea to just
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  Speaker 1: drill down and see if in fact she qualifies as
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  Speaker 1: being a saint. So hence why I wrote a prayer. God,
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  Speaker 1: can you imagine if Dolly heard this and she actually
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  Speaker 1: sang that prayer for us in dedication to the TG.
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  Speaker 3: She's not going to Tom.
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  Speaker 1: As I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Is it a prayer?
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  Speaker 1: Tom? Is it a prayer?
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  Speaker 3: Was it a prayer? Was it a sam? Was it
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  Speaker 3: a him?
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  Speaker 1: The difference sounds I have no idea. I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea which it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a slam because the sam is more like
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  Speaker 3: a limerick. There's a structure to Sam that that didn't
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  Speaker 3: quite follow. It could be a hymn. Yeah, it's another
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  Speaker 3: couple of verses to be a him.
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  Speaker 1: I think I should if I hadn't sang it, if
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  Speaker 1: I just spoke it out. I'm going to actually put
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  Speaker 1: the words up of this on our socials when you
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  Speaker 1: are watching this, go look at our socials and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to put this up the words of this and
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  Speaker 1: anybody out there who's you know, theological you know leaning,
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  Speaker 1: let me know what you think it is. Or is
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  Speaker 1: it just the ramblings of a fool of a man
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  Speaker 1: with a mullet and a fan of Dolly Parton?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what is a Sam? What is it? Prayer?
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  Speaker 3: I know you can sing prayers, Tom, Maybe that's what
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  Speaker 3: that is. Hey, you know what? You know what we're
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  Speaker 3: doing right here? Tom? We're rambling, buddy, and we've got
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  Speaker 3: fucking more to be at than ramble.
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  Speaker 1: Damn right, let's jump both feet into it. So in
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  Speaker 1: today's episode, we are looking into the life of possibly
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest and most accomplished music stars of
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  Speaker 1: all time, Dolly Parton. To Dolly or too many, I
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  Speaker 1: should say Dolly is not only an idol, but a hero.
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  Speaker 1: So today we want to investigative Dolly has in fact
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  Speaker 1: actually transcended the mere martyr world of husband stealing songs,
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  Speaker 1: sequin dresses and larger live pair personality. We want to
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  Speaker 1: find out if Dolly Pardon is in fact a saint.
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  Speaker 3: We could just say, yeah, wrap it up and go
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  Speaker 3: with a few beers. Tom.
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  Speaker 1: There's a few points during Yes Dolly will people will
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  Speaker 1: tell us to put it, put a fork on it,
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  Speaker 1: that's it, such amazing things they'll go, that's it, She's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Go home, yep, like just just right the second, just go, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: she is a saint. Thank you for all for listening
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  Speaker 3: to the Tama Jerry Show. Don't forget to like and subscribe.
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  Speaker 3: Tell them what we'd like it was to do, Tom,
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  Speaker 3: But you know what we're gonna We're gonna dive into
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  Speaker 3: several things. I gotta tell you, Dolly Parton a hell
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  Speaker 3: of a woman. I can't read up too much in
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  Speaker 3: her time without getting a genuine tier of my eye.
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  Speaker 3: I know, as we'll get into in the podcast, she
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  Speaker 3: really just does appear to be making the rest of
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  Speaker 3: us look like absolute shitheads.
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  Speaker 1: Like we could go through every single fasten of it
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  Speaker 1: and there'll be a lot in there. And top of
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  Speaker 1: the show said, don't don't at us on this, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna miss loads. It's like this woman, I mean, she's
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  Speaker 1: she's like the rock of country music. How the Christ?
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't come to a stop ever, She just seems
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  Speaker 1: to be helping people continuously while banging out hit after hit,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, if it was a TV show, you
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't watch it because it was too ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: They've done life stories on her, and you're going they've
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  Speaker 1: had to actually tone it down, because come on, nobody
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  Speaker 1: can be that good.
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  Speaker 3: She's just a fucking incredible hulk going from town to town,
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  Speaker 3: solving the mysteries and then pissing off.
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  Speaker 2: Up the road.
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  Speaker 1: Just Tom at the end of the show, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just out, when did you sing in the fucking theme song?
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  Speaker 1: When did you come across Dolly first? Or can you remember?
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, Tom, Like, you know, every wedding I ever went
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  Speaker 3: to when I was small, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: The music at said wedding would always be basically the same.
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  Speaker 3: You'd have your slow country songs and your fast country songs.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you'd hear a lot of Dolly parton there.
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  Speaker 3: I remember I was a looud watch ninety five at
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  Speaker 3: a way too fucking young age, and like you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're talking mid eighties, so Dolly would have been like
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  Speaker 3: you know, right and high on our on our fame.
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  Speaker 3: But I was too young to see her as like
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  Speaker 3: a sex symbol, so to speak. And as as I
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  Speaker 3: grew up, like you know, she got into the nineties,
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  Speaker 3: and she had become like, you know, a bit of
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  Speaker 3: a punchline to a joke because she was quite plastic
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  Speaker 3: surgery and big boobed and all this kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But as we learn as the podcast goes on, you
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  Speaker 3: don't fucking make jokes about Dolly because she'll sit your
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  Speaker 3: ass down, she'll fucking slap your neked and hyde your clothes.
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  Speaker 1: Tom. And she gave actually a very good interview. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure she's given a mid of them, million of them,
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  Speaker 1: but she gave one to Pat Kenny, if anybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to look it up. Not Pat, he gets a bit
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  Speaker 1: of stick underneath it, but he's actually a very good
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  Speaker 1: journalist in his own right, and why he's a bit wooden.
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  Speaker 1: He gets to the point very well without being insulting
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  Speaker 1: in any way. But she Pacey points out the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she built this. She was happy to use her
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  Speaker 1: body as a vessel to carry what she thought and
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  Speaker 1: what has worked well for her. It's like, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, as she said, you gotta tend your
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  Speaker 1: racehorse if you plan on racing it. So hence why
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  Speaker 1: she she created the character that she is. But underneath
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  Speaker 1: it all you could see she's a She's a hell
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  Speaker 1: of a good egg. I remember, I think the first
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  Speaker 1: time it was probably I would imagine, way too young
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  Speaker 1: for watching this, even the name would suggest it. But
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  Speaker 1: I remember watching on Sunday with my own man, and
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  Speaker 1: even I remember him looking at me a few times, going,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be watching this. And it
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  Speaker 1: was a Western like we used to watch all the time,
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  Speaker 1: but it was the littlest tourhouse in Texas. But I
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  Speaker 1: remember there must have been stirring in my lines of
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  Speaker 1: a twelve year old or eleven year old or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: because I can remember coming away on I think I
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  Speaker 1: fancy how and I don't even know what fancying is.
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  Speaker 1: I think I may be in love with Dolly Parton, as.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into it as as as we go on
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  Speaker 3: to him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like we said, it's not actually going to
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  Speaker 1: be a biography and any make shape perform, we will
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  Speaker 1: missloads of stuff. This is the testing ground to see
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  Speaker 1: if Dolly Parton is in fact the saint. So let's
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  Speaker 1: jump into a jerk before we've done our polished spurs
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  Speaker 1: and our ten gallon hats and dive into Dollywood. Yes
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  Speaker 1: that's a real place. Well more on that later. We
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  Speaker 1: have to first take a look at the criteria blind
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  Speaker 1: by the Christian faith for what makes someone a saint.
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  Speaker 1: Then we're getting serious here that you can't just be
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  Speaker 1: slinging out to any out friend or family like a
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  Speaker 1: politician with a fist full of All Ireland matchday tickets. No, sir,
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  Speaker 1: this club is tighter than the Illuminati, and if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't earned it in life, you ain't getting in. Saints
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  Speaker 1: were big. Comedian Paul marsh he said when he moved
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  Speaker 1: to Dublin first the other day, Jerry He's he could
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  Speaker 1: not believe. He thought cars came out of the factory
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  Speaker 1: with the padre Pio sticker on it. He couldn't believe
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  Speaker 1: Dublin that wide eyed and just country that he genuinely
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  Speaker 1: couldn't believe that cars were driving around Dublin without you know,
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  Speaker 1: as a potray Leo sticker on it, Like, how are
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  Speaker 1: you even driving safety around around the place without a
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Leo sticker? Tom.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes to the church, as you say yourself,
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  Speaker 3: there they don't dole out saintthoods on a fucking hourly basis.
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  Speaker 3: The last saint to be made was twenty sixteen, and
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  Speaker 3: he was a chap called Saint oscar Romero stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the guy on the name. It's an absolutely and he
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  Speaker 3: looks like he looks like a BMF, do you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like he's he's pretty bad ass. But
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  Speaker 3: you might remember he was a priest that was shot
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  Speaker 3: at the Altar in El Salvador that really well, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Like something out of a fucking a Treo movie or something. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's up there preaching and he'd done a
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  Speaker 3: whole bunch of good shit too, As we'll get into,
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  Speaker 3: he fit all the criteria for sainthoods, not least of
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  Speaker 3: which getting his ass shot saying mass in nineteen eighty Tom,
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  Speaker 3: really and sixteen he was twenty six years later, six
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  Speaker 3: years and he was. He was what you would call
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  Speaker 3: a shoe in Okay, So all I'm going to say is,
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  Speaker 3: if we make the case for Dolly Parton today, don't
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  Speaker 3: expect the Catholic Church to roll this out in the
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  Speaker 3: next calendar year. They're going to take their time with it.
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  Speaker 1: They have relics and what not go around. But there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of merchant involved, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: As you once you once you're once you're a SA
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  Speaker 3: Saint Tom forget about it. You've you've retired your jersey,
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  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah, you're
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  Speaker 3: selling that march forever. And like you know, Oscar Romero here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not entirely certain he's the saint of anything.
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  Speaker 3: I think all the patron saints of things are gone.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what Oscar would be the patron saint of.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, you know, not kidding, ain't know, right?
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever pray to Saint Antony before we move on?
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  Speaker 1: He seems to be the I think, but when you
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  Speaker 1: look up saint and what not, he seems to be
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  Speaker 1: the most popular man of the whole that I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I think I may have once or twice and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you lost something I think I may have prayed to
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  Speaker 1: Saint Antony. I can't remember.
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  Speaker 3: Saint Anthony's a go to guy if you lose shit.
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  Speaker 3: He's the paid from Saint I've lost shit, And like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, did I find things after I said a
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  Speaker 3: prayer to Saint Anthony? Yes? I did? Would I have
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  Speaker 3: found them anyway? Who's to say, Tom, Who's to say
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  Speaker 3: Antony's not like running out and moving your car keys
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  Speaker 3: a foot to the right so you'll see them where
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  Speaker 3: you didn't see them before.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great position to be in if
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  Speaker 1: you are Saint Anthony. When you think about it, it's
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  Speaker 1: like you're gonna find them at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't, well, look, don't blame me, but
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  Speaker 1: chances are, because chances are, you will find most things,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you will find most things eventually.
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  Speaker 1: So he's in a great position that way. Look, we're
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  Speaker 1: not here to tell you the stories of saints and
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  Speaker 1: not the rest of it. I just kind of wanted
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  Speaker 1: to see what Jerry, you know, I probably myself what
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  Speaker 1: part saints played.
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  Speaker 3: Really.
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  Speaker 1: Saint Antony was, but the only one to Saint Valentine,
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  Speaker 1: Who's I believe bones Are they in christ Church? Am
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  Speaker 1: I totally wrong?
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  Speaker 3: Saint Valentine's bones are in are in Dame Street? Yeah? No, no, sorry,
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  Speaker 3: I beg your part of his heart is in Saint
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  Speaker 3: Dame Street? Which is the which is the part you
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  Speaker 3: want to say Valentine to be known?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Is the really? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think that was the last thing that he that
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  Speaker 3: he shouted before he died. It was like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: send my heart five doors up from five guys.
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  Speaker 1: And it's Saint Nicholas. Is he buried in Dublin? Am I? Right? Now?
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  Speaker 3: That's only that's that's only what the parents tell their kids.
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  Speaker 3: But come here, tom, or while we're on the saints
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  Speaker 3: of things, do you know that there is a patron
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  Speaker 3: saint of music and musicians?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed that is Saint Cecilia, Saint Cecily.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're breaking.
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  Speaker 3: He stayed in November twenty seconds. But she is a Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: she is the patron saint of music and of musicians.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the thing, Tom, it doesn't specify what music
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  Speaker 3: she's a patron saint. Oh so I reckon? That does
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  Speaker 3: leave a window open for someone to be the patron
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  Speaker 3: saint of country music. And I do believe we have
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  Speaker 3: a lady that might fill those boots.
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  Speaker 1: At the very least sub category. Maybe she's you know,
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  Speaker 1: assistant deputy to you know, artists, and there's none for
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  Speaker 1: actual artists. It's music, is it?
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  Speaker 3: That is and Cecilia is music and music and that
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  Speaker 3: is the extent of research I've done for this Podcast's.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's absolutely fair enough. Right, let's jump in
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  Speaker 1: for anybody and yeah, okay, let's let's make some sense.
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  Speaker 3: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: Prior to this, I had no idea. I had thought
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things maybe, but I thought it was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: roll the dice sometimes good sometimes, but I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was that's what it was to be. But there are
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  Speaker 1: some very strict guidelines when it comes to saint Wood
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  Speaker 1: slash beatification. Let's jump in and see what they are. So,
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  Speaker 1: as mentioned, there's some serious criteria to land in yourself
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  Speaker 1: that's saintly blue tick. So if you're thinking about it,
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  Speaker 1: yourself might be in line for the owl nod because
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: you did that twenty four hour fast and fifth class
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: or you know, you gave a lot of euro out
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: of your ash straight to get the trolley out a little.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Then have a gander these first before you get your hope.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: So had you any notionanjer to me?
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: I had it floating. I had a couple of very
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: specific things and as we as we crossed them here Tom,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I'll shut them out. But the one thing that stuck
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: in my mind was like, three strikes, you're in.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, right, Well, I reckon. A good few people have
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: probably gotten the strikes, but I'd say still comes down
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: to the big boy at the top, like they took
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: that man thirty six years to get. You know, it's
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: not like a political position. People are dying off and
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: making space. Once you're in, you're in. There ain't no
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: tighter club than this.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's the sort of the premium VIP lounge
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: of heaven is for the Saints. Little little child me
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: really thought like, oh you do three perform three miracles,
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: You're in. That was that was as much as I
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: knew about becoming a saint.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: There's a little bit more now technically, Jar, anybody can
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: become a saint. I mean in the same way anybody
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: can throw the winning pass at the Super Bowl, You
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. But the reality is, you go,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I Reckon, you got to kind of be in the door,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: but they ain't saying it out loud, which is very
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you know, political out of really like it keeps everybody
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: kind of open. But anyone can become a saint of
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the Roman Catholic Church. But this status only granted after death.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Chipping, here's your problem.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Look, well, I think in this instance we can definitely
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: put we can do up a dossier. I think anyway
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: throughout this and you know, I think you know, get
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: it ready in for I suppose express post. Furthermore, to
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: achieve the spatified status, which is to be a Saint Huod,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: one must lead heroically virtuous life. Now keep that in mind,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: right on strictest accord with the teachings at the church,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: embracing charity, faith, hope, and other virtues. One must also
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: perform miracles during their life and either be martyred in
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: the name of their religion or be responsible for miracles posthumously.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: After that, the canonization procedure must begin at least five
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: years after the person's death. However, the pope can make
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: exceptions for this rule, as in the case of our
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: mother tesa By, who became a candidate after only two years.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's top of the class stuff.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Isn't that you know what that is, Tom, I reckon,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: that's getting her into the sainthood before some bad press hits.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought, because apparently she you know, she
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was in with a few died like, she was in
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: with a few dodgy characters. Apparently overall she was she
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: did good, but apparently she was a bit of a dodgy.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: What you know. We let the readers look into herself, like,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: you know, but like we're not saying that she was
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: running guns for the Calcutta mafia or anything like that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: But we're not not saying that, Tom.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was friends with a few few few leaders
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: of certain countries that you go, really really okay, all right,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: fair enough.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like here's the thing. Model Theresa is
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: proof that if someone wants you to get something, you'll
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: fucking get it, all right, someone, If someone wants you
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: to have a job, you'll get it, you know, if
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: they're the right person, in the right place at the right.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Time, exactly, Like it's kind of written in that it's
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: got to be a minimum five years. I'll Fabrizio what
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: was his name from that got shot at the Altar.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And Romero's fucking sitting around for like my entire lifetime.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Before he even gets as sniff and an old thing.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: So two years in it can be done. That's all
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So if that could be, that rule could
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: be bent. But we will explain how.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and fucking Oscar Romero never took a fucking quilo
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: of coca in his carry on bag when he was
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: flying from country to country on like some saints, we
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: could mention.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Who knows at the end of the day when a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: name like Oscar Romero, I'm sorry, that's that's just too
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: bad as to not be carried a little bit, a
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: little bit of bag around which you I.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Just I just I just keep thinking the Caesar Romero,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: the original joke.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. And who shave off his
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: mustache when they put I love that, I love that,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: paint over it. That's what paint over These are the stages.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: These are the stages. The process of canonization can be
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: divided into four stages, so number one, now, these are
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: very much the ones, and then we'll explain how we're
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: gonna bend them to our will when we need them
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: to servant of God. A former request for an individual
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: can be considered for saying that is submitted to a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: specialal special Vatican Tribunal, which technically is kind of us.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Really we're putting forward this submitting this request. The request
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: must explain how the person lived a life of holiness, pureness, kindness,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and devote. If the candidate meets the requirements, the tribunal
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: officially recognized this person as a servant of God, like
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the Blues brothers.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Like fucking Jake and Elwood.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the mission God.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: All right, here's the thing though, This is what throws
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: me straight away. This is why, like, you know, you
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: can't be This tells me that you can't be a
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: late bloomer and be a saint. You need to have
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a life of holiness. You can't suddenly just turn your
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: life around in your thirties and be as holy as
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: you fucking want. You know, you're not getting into the
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: club no matter how good you are.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of looks like it's got to be
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the full stint. You know, you've got to be a lifer. Look,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: unless you did unbelievable shit from your thirties onwards, you
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: know you no, no.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Do you know what this is? Tom, This strikes me
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: that you have to be one of these fucking kids
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: that never missed the day at school. Yeah, eighteen years
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: and never missed the day at school, and to say
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: that proudly, like anybody gives a shit.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Typically unless they find something like that, they got a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: twitch in their eye. For the rest of it. You've
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: got to be you know, you got to be a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: little weird to be that straight. Nobody is that straight.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: But the point is, like, if you turn around, Tom
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and decide in sixty class, Okay, I'm never going to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: miss a day at school. You know what. No, You've
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: already missed plenty. It doesn't matter going forward.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: You fucked.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: So I think this game rigged a little bit, just
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe your parents were in on it at the top.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows. Let's let's investigate it. Maybe maybe
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: there's a couple more investigate.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: And for our subject here, Tom, we're going to have
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: to investigate. Has Dolly lived a life of holiness, pureness,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: kindness and devotion like from day one? Or was she
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: playing five finger phile a with a switchblade round the
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: back of the bike sheds at school and only got
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: good later on.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Let's find out as we read on so second level,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: much like you know something out of Indiana Jones where
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you got to get through. It's heroically virtuous by Jesus Christ.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I want that in a T shirt. The tribunal report
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: is sent to the congregate. Waight you hear this for
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a name? If ever there was an invention of an
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: our fucking official society of brothers of lads who actually
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: had big jobs sent to the Congregation for Causes of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the Saints at the Vatican. That's the actual official title.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Talk about an absolute quango job. If ever, that is
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: two thousand and six written all over it, doesn't it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: That's like fucking hell by working for the Bureau of
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Paranormal Research and Development. It's just some fucking.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly so, this particular congregation, it's comprised of theologians, cardinals,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: archbishops and bishops. They study the person's life and writings
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to ensure they are in line with the teachings of
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the church. Yelp reviews rarely taken into consideration of Toad.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: The candidate must be found to possess four cardinal virtues
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and three theological virtues to be declared venerable of He
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: wrote virtue. Now what are these virtues and how they
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: fare up against some of these? I hear you ask,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: So the cardinal ones are these prudence?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Jerry used to I used to know these.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I used to know these from me communion Tom.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You the strict communion. I think I just got asked.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: You know, who's who had the WWF title at the time.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: To be honest, a priest is pretty cool. He was
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: pre relaxed, like, oh no.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Did you did you not? Did you not have to like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: you know, the line off, your fucking all, your all,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: this kind of shit.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Very little. He was a very cool priest. He wanted
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to know who was starting full Forth Tipperary at the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: time and who was the w w B chap. That
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: was pretty much it was. You know, he worked nice.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: He didn't just wear the regular stock jumpers. His jumper
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: set like raffleren and stuff. Same man quit the priesthood
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: actually because he was too good looking. He was a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: bit of an oscar a mayor himself, and certain things
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: can come calling when a man is that good looking.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: So, you know, I hope he didn't quit the priesthood
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the way Oskar Romero quit the priesthood.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Gee, Hey, whoa I better I get a look at
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: this guy actually again, So the cardinal ones are these prudence, justice,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: temperance and courage. Now I know you know temperance because
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that came up in last week's episode, didn't it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, temperance is sobriety.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Keeping her straight down the line. Never what wiggling into
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the ditch ever so often? Already I think we're we're
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: rapping the sideboards here already. I don't.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: That's what they call fallen at the first fence there, Tom.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: But for Dahlly, as we'll get into it later on,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: perhaps she, perhaps she might is Dolly partner hard drinker.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: What do you fucking think? What about prudence and justice?
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: The fucking terror twins over here?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So what you reckon prudence? What you reckon prudences?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I always just knew it as a ladies name. I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: justice is justice, but is right and just prudence? Tom? No,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: what's the dictionary definition of that?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Being a cute hour? Basically? Genuinely, if you were to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: break like, it's like being you know, tidy with your
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: money and stuff. Don't be don't be flahulac as it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: saying irish do you know, don't be don't be throwing
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: yourself around like it's but being cute. It's it's sensibility,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: isn't it. It's prudent, but you know it would be prudent, yes, prudent. Okay, okay,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: some definitions wild say, oh absolutely, you know, saving money
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and it's not it's not really it's bottom line being
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: a cute hoor and not too fla whulah. Remember in
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: The Goodfellas, when you know, when they did the big
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: heist and all of a sudden, your man shows up
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: in a fucking mink coat and Roberton Neiro snaps, He's like,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the fuck you thought I told you?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: No?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Big No, he was not being very prudent in that moment.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that. That's in the director's cut. He goes, hey, motherfucker,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: didn't I tell you to be fucking prudent? Didn't I
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: fuck tell you to be prudent. I can't get no
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: fucking I can't get no fucking prudence around here.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: You're bunch of no prudence, motherfuckers. You're some no prudence.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And the final the final cardinal one is courage, So
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: courage obviously no courie courage.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: You gotta be prave. Okay, you gotta fucking be that
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Indiana Jones. You gotta fucking penn and man nails before God. Tom.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It's Sparta. Basically, send your child out to fight the wolves.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Courage. We all get that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: That's not that's not courage on your behalf. You're just
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: sending the kid out of its courage on the child's we.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Have There are three theological ones or theological whichever you prefer, Faith, hope,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and charity. Oh, if you're wondering, yes, those are three
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: members of the Dingle family and Emerdale. Actually it's uh,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I've only just.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, is that the Dixie Chicks?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: It could be, but it's definitely there's at least two
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: of them that are definitely Dingle members in the family.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And I haven't seen Emberdale in ten years, but I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: definitely remember there's a couple of them had had.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Your I was there absolutely was a charity Dingle that
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: was Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So obviously, I mean in real reality, faith, hope, and charity.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: We get that, we get we get what the hell
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: amy right, So you've got those are seven? Those are
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: seven virtues. Seven virtues and hey, anybody listening along going, hey,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: hell I am doing all right here, you're probably either
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: totally delusional orbit of a boring shit, or maybe maybe
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you're rocking your way to be Atrica.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Well, you know the second level of it there, Tom
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: number one be a servant of God. That was handy enough.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Level two be heroically virtuous. I mean, I haven't seen
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the levels go up in hardness that that quickly stince
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: sonic the fucking Hedgehog, where the first one is like, yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: run around this green field, and then the second level
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: is like, oh, catch these bubbles underwater or you'll fucking drown.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: It was quite a steep curve there, all right, I think,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to be fair, I think the first one is almost
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: like this, the line where it says anyone can become
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a saint. It's the basic. It's anybody could be Tom
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Brady and play into their mid forties, throwing every touchdown
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: when it passes for fucking thousand yards. That's see, like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: almost fucking nobody with two more levels to go here,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it ain't even close
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to being finished. So beatification and miracles is the third one. Now,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: if a person was martyred like himself al Romero. Gromero
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: suffered death or persecution in the name of their faith.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was shot for being a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Catholic priest, but maybe he was.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I was exactly why. It was a precisely way he
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: was shot. Oh was it?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Okay? Well, there you go. That's I mean. He's listen
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to this. Now, he almost jumps all of this because
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: purely right, he jumps a lot of the hoops in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: number three because he bit the dust, bought the farm,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: as they say, so he or she can be be
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: out a fight and named blessed without further investigation, Dale Dunn,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: if you are blasted away, not just because you know
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you knocked off a liquor store the night before and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the brit and the owners catching up with you, you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: were shot in the middle of and for the reason
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of your faith, then you know you can potentially jump
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: all these next ones. Now the investigation can end there
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: straight in top of the list, which after thirty six years,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: obviously happened Oscar. Now this is locally recognized scenthood, whereupon
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the person may be worshiped in his or horse city, dioceses, region,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: or religious community. That's Oscar all day long. Now, if
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you haven't been markeers, you must be responsible for ther
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: currence of a posthumous miracle verified by the contngregation. Mean
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you pull a miracle off why you were dead? Now,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean hard enough when you're alike Jesus.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, like you know, we're gonna we're gonna get
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: into miracles here, Tom. But like you know again, miracles
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: is thrown around, okay, like you stumbling on the last
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: step when you're drunk, but miraculously writing yourself before you
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: paint yourself on the bottom.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I go, oh my god, that was a miracle. That
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't a miracle. Toime you like cork people use it
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for is you were haunted, which means just that you
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: were actually miraculously saved in that moment. It could have
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: literally it could mean that you did you got onions
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: in their burger when you hadn't asked from but they
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: arrived on it. Anyway, that's the hope to be also
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a miracle. That's it's not a miracle. Miracles are fucking
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: big jobs, actual miracles. So these miracles could include stigmata.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: The saint's body shows signs of the five crucifixion wounds
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: of Christ.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Let's them out for the non believers. There, Tom, So.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: There are two in the hands, two and the feet,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and one in the side. I'm thinking, am I am?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I right? Am?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I right?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Your left, your left, your left side where his heart
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: was pierced. Our Lord's heart was pierced, you know. For
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I know this is a podcast, so you're not going
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: to see it. But Toms, after listening to to stigmat
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: and it was very much like a like a ryanair
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: safety demonstration.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I fucking held up my own hands.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: And yeah, hands, well left one right in the feet
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: one left one.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Right Jesus good literally good Jesus literally, So the saints. Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: so you can show them like Padre Pio had those,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: didn't he he had? Then remember more on that later levitation.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: The Saint is able to float in water. Surely we
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: could really do with theologian. I know somebody who actually
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: has a degree in this who would be brilliant to
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: sit around. No, they nerd it up. Literally, we're getting
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: through the facts just so that we can jump into
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the dolly side of the Yeah, exactly. So we'll assume
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that it's floating like you know, the blue guy like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: David Blaine with his flute hanging out in them? Are
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: they a mystery man of the Watchmen? The Watchman? So
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the third one is the third major one, biolocation. The
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: person is able to appear in two places at once,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: like the aforementioned David Blaine.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: The prestige spoiler alayer.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, this prestige. So there are other ones accepted to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: there there's other ones accepted that are, you know, in
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: or round. If you've got a couple of these in,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you're pretty much looking good. Healings attributed to the Saints,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: intervention or contact with relics belonging to the Saints. So
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you'll hear a people touching the bones, or
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: may be a little bit of a relic, a little
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: bit of rag inside one of those little you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: scapulus kind of things. Yeah, liquefication. That's a word you
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: don't hear too often, right, the body of the saint
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: or the representation, there are liquor phyes each year on
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the day of his or her death. I should have
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: looked into this further, yew.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'll give you one for that. There's a well
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: out and on dog that is a shrine to our Lady.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: They call it Ladies Lady Well. And every year on
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the feast day of our Lady, it fills with water,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: doesn't actionly And you go out, you go out and
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: you and it's oh yeah. I went to it every
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: fucking year for twenty years. When I was a young fellow,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: was brought out to it. I wasn't like rare and
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to go to it like was slain or something. And
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: you go aha, and you filled your bottle, You filled
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: your empty two liters, your threely her country spring bottle
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: with Lady Well water and not done you that was
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: your that was your holy water for the year. Was
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: there water in that well every other day of the year.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Tom was the council turning on a tap and filling
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: it with water on demand?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Uh, let us know in the comments.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: On that one. On the basis of that one, I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: want to know more of what. There's a place up
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the road here called Sane Pecan is his name. I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: don't know what he's the saint of cool name like Pecan, Yeah,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it could be. All I know is that they used
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to have mass there every year out in this cool
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: old like you know, fallen down old monastery that was there,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and I used to have to serve mass. But you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: get twenty quid first, you get twenty quid for serving mass,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: but you would get twenty bucks, twenty bucks, twenty bucks,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and you get all the crisps and score you want
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to have afterwards with your parents, but you would get
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: eaten alive by little midgies.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I get this liquification. The body of the saint
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: or the representation thereof so their shrines and all this
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: kind of thing produced water on the year of their
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: of his or herd head. That's all over the fun.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: In fact, another thing was astra has a well and
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: done of mind does the same job?
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Say the more I want to hear more at least
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: around the Count's fucking that's two of them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: That's two of them within a half day's drive of
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Carrick Mcross, County Monahan.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: There's a high water table around that part of the country,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I do believe.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Can I say?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: The next one is incorruptibility the body of the person
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: who was already buried. Nasty kay.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: This was always one that I had heard tom about stints,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: is that they didn't rot in the grave. That was
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: that if you if you went down and you took
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: him up thirty years later and they still look the
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: way they look beforehand, that that was the hallmark of
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: a saint, which is why, like you know, to me,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: that's an easy thing to check right there.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now this next one is the one I had
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: heard of. I don't know why I heard this one's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: odor of sanctity. The body expels a sweet odor instead
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: as a normal posthumous orders, so none of that stink.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: You know that you'd see people in you know, the
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: silence of the lands rubbing the stuff on their nose.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I've heard stories of it, you know, being being that way.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. So those are the mierica that are
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: kind of accepted, and we'll get your issueing. I'm sure
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: others will be you know, would be looked into. If
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you you know, you put you know, you were able
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to bring stuff back to life, then I think they'd
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: probably give that a look too. But those are the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: typical ones that if you've got a couple of them
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: in post death during life, then things are looking good
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: for you. Here's the final stage, the big But I.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Do I do want to say, I do want to
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: say before I just want to say before we move on, Tom,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: that the odor of sanctity just really sounds like something
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: that Monty Python and the Holy.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Gra it really does bless you with the odor of sanctity.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: This is the early hand grenade of Antioch, count Countess
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to four and not tow five the ire of sanctity.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: We are the knights who say me anyway, one last
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: one before, because we gotta lay out of robotic We
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gotta lay out the ground rules. The one more demonstrated
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: passionous miracle must occur as a result of the person's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: intercession for the person to be canonized. So you gotta
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: pull off one more miracle as a result of you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: when you're brown bread. The person is then canonized through
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the former papal decree that the candidate is a holy
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and in heaven with God. The Pope makes the declaration,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: join a special mass in honor of the new Saint.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Now you're a made guy. What are the perks? What
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: can anyone say? Merch huh, chitching and lots of it. Masses, prayers,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: feast days, and even the odd Christy Moore song may
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: feature you. It's all the way, easy Street. Once a
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: person gets that golden Halo jer We talked about it already.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: There ain't no you are made, beyond made. Imagine how
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: proud your family will be, you know. I mean there's
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: no there's no coming back from that. There's there's nothing
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: can be. You're un touchable. You are a made guy
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: at that stage.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's it's it's really something Tom
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: there that you just said something there that that really
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: blew my mind. The Pope has to confirm without a
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: shadow of doubt that you are in heaven. Yet look
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: like yeah, and and and and it's not that like
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: you just on your you know, on your deathbed you
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: said fuck it and started you know, pulling yourself and
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: courtion and saying all kinds of mad shit, and God
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: was like, ah, you fucking fell out the last hurdle there, kid,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Straight to hell with you, you know.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're all going to hell. But it
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: would seem in this particular case that the Big Man
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: can actually have a look or at least text and
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: find out for shiz that you're definitely in heaven. Hey,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of people believe in strange things.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of conspiracies out there who knows. I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: don't know who knows, but I'm just giving you the criteria.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're I don't think in all fairness,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: anybody who's listened to the previous five seasons of Tom
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and Jerry's show will pretty much be able to you
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: could really literally write a rough shot biography on the
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: two of us. And I don't think we're I don't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: think we're making it in there. I don't think we're
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: on the list tonight. We ain't getting in. We ain't
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: getting in the club jerf.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: But if you do get in, Tom, and you've touched
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: on it there, if you do get in, did you
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: know that the Roman Catholic show church has no process
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: of examining the case. Once you're made a saint, there's
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: no official reopening of the book once once you're made
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: a saint, they shut the book. They put it in
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: a file in a filing cabinet, and that's it. So
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: that if you come along, go wait a second. There's
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: new evidence that they shot dogs on a weekly basis.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: The file is closed, that the dussi is not going
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to be reopened. You are a saint for keeps.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I've heard that before, and I do you know what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it is? They either do an unbelievably thorough although you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a fairness of the trace is one was kind of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you know, it sped through the books there. It was
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: rushed through. It was rushed through. Man, you want to
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: covey like Ceia level. You want to cover your ass.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: You can't have Empson springing up. They got to talk
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to your best friend when you're in primary school, did
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you you know, did you ever pick your nose and
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: eat it? That kind of stuff. They would have everything
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: crossed off on you.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: With my old research, Tom, I think that you can.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: You can lose your feast day.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Oh but you can.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: You're still an official saint. So that's a real sort
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: of like, hey, you know what, we're going to move
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: you into an executive role. Okay, you're still with the company,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: but we're just we're not just gonna have to back
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: movie exactly.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I get it, I get it, I get it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: It happens has happened special agents all the time. Somebody
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: fucks up in Cabul all of a sudden, now they're
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: pushing a pencil in you know, over Langley. It happens.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: You don't get thrown off the job, but you do,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: you do kind of get demoted anyway.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I can't see myself levitating at any point in this life,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: given that this fucking share that I have won't even
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: stay up. I can't imagine the odor I emit after
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I pass will be.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Sweet, not one chair, not And that's me being honest.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm I'm some way a decent bloke. Maybe
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I've had courage a few times. No, maybe not even
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not even fucking prudent tongue.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And yeah, and you're from Anahan, you would be pretty,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you'd be a cute hour at the best has but
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you I don't think you match up to the level
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of prudence. They're looking for temperance to get about it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I don't get any of these, you know.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: No, I'm for zero for four on that whole list.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Me too. So that being said, now we've learned a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: little about the Catholic Church and what it takes, so
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you know the rules of the game. Let's see who
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: we're talking about when we say the name Dolly Park upfront.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Like I said, we're only giving a brief biography. These
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: are all we went investigating to see could we find
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the bits of Dolly that would make her a saint.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: So don't worry if we miss some stuff, but I'll
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: give you a very brief background. Who we're talking about. Dolly.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Rebecca Parton was born in January nineteenth, nineteen forty six,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and Locust Ridge, Tennessee, an American country singer, music singer, guitarist,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: actress best known for pioneering the interface between country and
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: pop music styles. Parton was born to a poor farming family,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the fourth of twelve children. I mean, that's pretty Catholic
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: right there, now.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: God damn.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: And they all lived like they all lived, those mountain people.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: She displayed an aptitude and passion for music at an
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: early age, and as a child, she was featured singer
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: and guitarist on a local radio and tele vision shows
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: in Knoxville, Tennessee, in nineteen sixty four. Immediately following literally
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: she did this the next day. The following day, following
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: our high school graduation, on a Friday Saturday morning, she
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: set out for Nashville to pursue a career in country music.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: A Nashville, Parton became a protege to country music singer
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and Grand Ole operaate star Porter Wagner great name through
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: repeated appearance on Wagner's syndicated TV show parton Gained Court.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Isn't it a great I'm just I love saying Porter Wagner,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: what a great name. It's probably his name is probably Jerry.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Do you know what? Do you know?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: What?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Do you know what?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Porter? Do you know what? Porter Wagner is? Like the
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: name you give to the cops when the stop you
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: and you're drunk and you look around and there's like
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: a guy carrying shit out of a hotel and putting
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: it in the back of a van, and like, what's
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: your name?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Boy?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: My name is Porter Wagner.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I I must look into the same for it's his
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: real name.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It's a great name for those that are listening. It's
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: spelt wagoner wg like somebody who builds Robert Wagner.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: You look it up the you know, the dolly. It's
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: as tweet as you imagine that plywood painted fucking farmyard
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: behind him, and it's you know, he walks around and
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: he's like, you know, we're gonna bring out the little
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: a little girl here to play. And it's just the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: way they spoke back then. But she was in fairness.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: She was sassy enough, you know, she stood aground and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: she was she knew how to play the game too,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you know so. But she has soon attracted the attention
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: of the music industry.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Up front, you don't fuck around with Dolly Partner.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You just don't. You don't be because she's she's a
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: stone cold killer. Like she just she demanded respect from
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the get go. At four foot eleven, she just demanded
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: respect from from the get go. And everybody does industry
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: moguls from RCA Records and subsequently recorded more than it
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't hit sounds together with Wagner on the rc level,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: owing much of associations. Very good now she did, she
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: always paid paid tribute to Wagner. Partner rapidly emerges one
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: of the country music's popular singer. Can you imagine in
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, in country music of all genres,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: going out in your own you know what I mean
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: as a woman, as a woman, full stop and just gone,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: this is me, You know what I mean? The tie
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: rope you'd have to play, tom.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I can't even imagine growing up in a place called
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Locust Ridge.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I know, genuinely Locust Ridge in the smoky Mountain, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: we'll get into it a little bit later on.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: But the nearest town I hadn't heard a locust ridge.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: The nearest. If you'd ask me where Dolly Parton was from,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I would have given you the name of the nearest
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: bigger city, and that's Pigeon Forge.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pigeon Forge. Yeah. Yeah, she's got a ton of
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: business and Pigeon Forge.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, I get I get the name
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: and scheme here, Okay, what is there the most of
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: and roughly speaking, what does this place look like? Well,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: you know it's a forge and there's a lot of
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: pigeons about the place. Great. What about what do we
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: call that ridge over there?
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: What's it?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Covered? Fucking locus?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: You know, like Christ's just the place to raise twelve kids?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's I mean, by all accounts when
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: you listened to interviews with her, it was a happy
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: enough outplace. Sure they wanted for knocking because they had
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: not you know, that kind of way. They were just
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: all fading water and all the rest.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Of it colorful, Yes exactly.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Oh oh that up a few times in this show,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And feel free to drop in as many as many
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: of those, cause She's written quite a few songs, that woman,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: So there's quite a few you could pick pick from
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and like, like we said, to do without any without
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: any bitterness, you know the way sometimes not for the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: want of a better word, but you see it sometimes
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that people maybe from that were always punching up all
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: their life. By the time they get there, they're just
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: this hardened old rock, you know what I mean, They're gone.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: You know, Devil wears Prada fucking somebody from the street.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: You know, you got fifty cent smile until he was
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: like twenty years into his ten years into his career
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because he came from a hard place. She just smiled
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the whole way through it because she was like she
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: would talk about one one vision of just I'm getting
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to the top and it's going to be class so
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: chill it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: It's it really is amazing because all you ever hear
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: is that the music industry is this cutthroat industry. It's
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: a real take no prisoners and and and and it
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: takes budding starlets and stars and just turns them into
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: like broken husks that are you know, writing pop songs
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: for people forty years younger than them. Not the case
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: with Dolly. She seems to have still have that sort
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: of youthful, girlish energy that she would have carried into
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: the industry to begin with.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And every interview watcher she's so professional but so confident
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: in how she doesn't feel like she has to project
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: anything other than what she actually is. So that's it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That's that's Dolly for the minute.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Trust me.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: There's a gazillion things you can go and watch on
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Dolly if you really need to know more. There's a rake.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: We're gonna miss it all. But because essentially we're going
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: after the points up to four beatification rules. We're going
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: after the four of those and we're gonna break them
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: down to see where Dolly lines up. Very first one,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: number one was the serve to God. So straight out
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the gate. This could be like you said earlier doors
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: where somebody just goes Dolly partner Saint. Yeah, close the book.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: That's it done, No more question because right here, right now.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Dolly joined with country artist Zach Williams twenty twenty one
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: this year to win this year her eleventh I'm actually
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: wrong I wrote this in eleventh, her seventeenth Grammy. Because
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: she has a couple of kind of other ones with
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: eleventh Major Grammy for Best Contemporary Christian Music Performance for
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: their collaboration on a song called there Was Jesus, So.
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  Speaker 3: Good Night and thanks to Yeah There's no that's there
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: was Jesus as a statement, not a question.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there he is. There was Jesus. There, there
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: was Jesus. Nope, there he was like the two girls
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: saw Mary in Knock. Same thing. They got an airport,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: they got a Grammy.
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  Speaker 3: So now look, I mean, I I will say I'm
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: not familiar with that song, nor indeed the greater workings
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: of Zach Williams. But what this tells us Tom is
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: that Dolly is still banging out those Christian music hits.
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  Speaker 3: That's not something that she for a little while. This
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: is like very much part of her. She is, it
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: has to be said, a servant of God.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Here you go, Now, jer we're not a religious podcast,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: although you wouldn't know open to now.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: A few people doing spit takes listening to this.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: What I know, Well, look at this is what we
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: wanted to do for this one, and I can guarantee you,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: just like every episode so far, nobody has attempted to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: do it how we're doing it's a welcome. Actually, a
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: religious podcasts might be a bad idea. I'd say we'd
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: be top of this. I don't know where to spotify
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: religious charts. But look, in this instance, because this is
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: not a religious podcast, we're going to assume that God
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: in this instanture is actually country music and turn the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: table to see. So never mind that dead for five
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: years stuff. We're going straight out the gate because look
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: at Dolly Partner has broken every rule in the book.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So God in this instance and Heaven and all the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: rest of it is country. And we'll look to see
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: if Dolly did live a life of holiness in that
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: context context, pureness and devotion to the cause to get
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: her name on the Saint list. So you get where
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I'm going with this now. I'm not to because I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: think she was Pentecostal anyway. I don't think she'd probably
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: want to be in the whole all. Like I said,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the twelve kids in the family you wouldn't know by
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: looking at it. But there I think there were Pentecostal
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever, so she wouldn't.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Be All roads lead to Rome, Tom.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So in nineteen seventy four, park And
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: finished up with Wagner Wagner on the launch of her
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: solo career Badass. She could have stayed there, she had
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: a sweet, but job for lifetime, job for life, county
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: council work retired fifty five, so she left to launch
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: her solo career, in which she enjoyed immediately like straight
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: off the game, immediate success. She knew what she did doing.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: She knew what she was doing when she pulled the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: trigger when it was needed Peo pulled. In both seventy
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: five and seventy six, she was chosen Female Singer of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the Year by the Country Music Association otherwise known as
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: CMA on the strength of the songs Joline Christ and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Love Is Like a Butterfly. I mean, everybody's given Joe,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I've given Joelina go myself on the old karaoke. It
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: was about this time Parton began to cross over to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the pop music market, introducing the old pop folk to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the word of country. You get what I'm saying, I
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: get you, buddy. In nineteen seventy eight, she won the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Grammy award Grammy Now Not Seem a Grammy first song
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Here You Come Again. I was named Entertainer of the
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Year by the CMA. Same year as her career developed,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Parton received more Grammys, obviously, like a bunch more of them,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: both for songs, including ninety five and Shine Like I
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: mean ninety five in nineteen eighty Shine was in two
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: thousand and one. Who has that career? You know what
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I mean good, I mean christ Tom. This is and
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: again we could be stretching the rules a little bit.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: It is a it is a life and service of
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: country music. But like the step from country music to
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: God is a fo and straight line.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Pal, Yeah, I get you, and I think that's why
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: it was easy enough to do it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: We were trying to see, was Marilyn Manson going to.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Be exactly yes. This isn't like, you know, getting Quentin
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Tarantino as a saint on the strength of fucking Jackie Brown.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Well you need to do that episode.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Coming in season seven. Everything that Dolly has done, as
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: far as I can see, has got a little bit
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: of gardener.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: It absolutely don't like it. It's definitely got a little bit.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It's got a lot of good through it, Like there's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: a through line of goodness through everything she's doing. And
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: she's just I mean, I don't know, it's you know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: setting your goals and stuff. But just like this woman
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: has just read the game or something. It's just nothing
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: but Nett, nothing but Nett, three pointers over her shoulder line.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: You know, because there's a case to be had Tom
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: for saying that her career is somewhat miraculous.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean when we joked about it,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't slip while drunk. That's I don't
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: think people grasp the fucking magnitude of winning a Grammy.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Of all the fucking people you've ever set her singing
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a pub, sing at work, who's half decent, You tried
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: it yourself in the car, all the people that have
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: ever attempted to sing, perform, do anything to get to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the level where you're winning Grammys. And in the same
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: year you win a Singer of the Year over in
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Country down in Tennis, you know, Nashville.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Like what.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous?
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Like this is? This is what gets me Tom that like,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: you know, thirty forty years later, Taylor Swift comes on
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: along and Blend's pop and country and everyone's like, Wow,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: this has never been done before. And I'm over here
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: having a fucking.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Stroke like, excuse me, bitch, have a LOOXI have a look.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: You still got the min rules? Go oh, you've got
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the min rules. Have a fucking look. Because Dolly was
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: doing this shit when nobody and the amount of people
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: that have tried to replicate her, you know she really
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: that can only be I suppose you can only take
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: that as a compliment if you are Dolly Party. But
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the amount of people, I mean fair play. She could
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: have gone down the route, but her goddaughter, who is
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus. Yes, indeed, it was all laid out in
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: front of Miley Cyrus to be the next you know,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the next you know, Reva MacIntyre, or the next whatever
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Dolly Parton. It was all laid out in front of her,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: her father's Christ Almighty, don't break my heart and my
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: a key break your heart. Yes, and Dolly Partner as
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: your godmother. She goes off on her own thing and
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: does her own thing. That was pretty cool because I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: think she even said herself, where would I be going?
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: What would it be? Don't you? What are you doing?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: If Dolly Parton is your grandmother and she's still working.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I can't compete with that, So I gotta go do
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the rocky stuff and the poppy stuff. I can't compete
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: with that. It's Dolly fucking Parton, that's classic.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I don't mind that. Miley starrus one bit. I think
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: she's pretty cool.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she is actually pretty cool. She's Yeah, if anybody
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: wants to have a look at a very cool moment
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: she she sang with Billie Idol they on stage, which
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: is a pretty cool move, and she did rebel yell. Anyway,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: how we agreed, Do you agree if God in this
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: since this country music? Does she get through the first hurdle?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Does our dossier get it in in front of the Congress?
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Tom, Absolutely, especially see that you could take in
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: my mind, you could take every single Dolly Parton song,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: even the ones that aren't directly about God, and there
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: are fucking several. But you could take songs like I
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Will Always Love You and sing it as a Christian
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: rock song and say, well, she's really talking about God.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: And absolutely, yeah, Yeah, that's a valid point. That's a
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: valid point. Point islands in the stream with what do
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: we call the Kobes sang at Mass she.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Has ased the green hill zone.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, now we're getting into the tough bit here. Now,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: now this will be We're gonna hop all over the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: place here, just scooping up little bits of dollyisms and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Dolly Dolly factoids. I don't think it's gonna take a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: lot of effort, but I just want to see can
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: we align her with the criteria that we outlined in
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: number two where you are said literally it was just
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: a vertical wall to the next level. So yeah, it's
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: gonna be tricking. Let's see how Dolly's virtuous levels. Now,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: keep it in mind we talked at the top of
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the show that yes, she portrays and she has a
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: phrase herself, it takes hell of a lot of money
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: to look this cheap, which was one of the best lines.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I love it. Do you know what those kind of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: lines like, you know, Sunday morning coming down, like these
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: lines that say they're so tight, like it took a
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: lot of money to make me look this cheap. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: didn't get to where I was by worrying about how
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel tomorrow. You know, like those lines are
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: just put them on a T shirt. Those are bumper
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: sticker lines, Like you.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Know, I'm taking it to a comedy level, tom But
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: you can't heckle Dolly parton every step free.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: What do you think I've got a mullet in the mustache.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Now I'm coming back. I'm coming back into the game
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: after lockdown. Goun motherfuckers, Come at me, Come at me,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: because I already I already pulled the pin on your grenade.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: She has all the pins. You can't come at Dolly.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: You just can't come at her. And then she knocks
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you out of the park with our talent. There you
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: go in the eighties, right, So now this is we're going.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: We're going picking through the life of Dolly here to
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: see if we can pick up all those seven those
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: virtue levels. Those there's cardinal virtues basically, and the theological ones.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: But we'll see if they're in there. I'm guessing they're
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: in there. Relative to country mutes. In the nineteen eighties,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Partner appeared in several successful films, most notably Nine to
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Five and The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. Now that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: was a courageous move, I'll be it. But a bit
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: of a marker card there, Dolly. You know, you know
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: a bit of a boud name name. But you know
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: what if you get to if you get offered a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: job by you know the bandit's fucking Burt Renolds. Of
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: course you're gonna be in the movie. For Christ's sake.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: It's Burt Reynolds.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: You gotta be, except for the in this analogy, Tom
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Burt Reynolds is the actual devil.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Right now, you're actually right.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: So but look, okay, yeah, but I can see where
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: you're going there.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: But she did revive one of the most popular songs
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: for for that particular one which you are going to
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: tell us why. It basically saves her grace here, So
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I wanted to show you that the possible human side
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: of her here where she was also said close to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the old hot fire there, but you pull back out
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: of the fire with a song called I Will Always
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Love You, which in the nineties was handed over or least,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: shall we say out to who Jerry?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: I don't fucking know why. It's Whitney Houston right. My
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: mind was just about to go Michelle Williams, and I'm like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: there's like Michelle Williams fucking he Ledger's Widow. Where the
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: fuck did that come out? And I was getting Lady
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: from Dawson's Creek.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: What the heck?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: No, Whitney, Houston, Prince just not brain just failed me there. Yes,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Michelle Williams did not saying I Would Always Love You.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: No, possibly she did, but not to the success for
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the film The Bodyguard that Whitney did in nineteen eighty nine.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: So I mean, you you have a little fact out
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: there that I didn't even realize. As a result, now
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: you think that Dolly was Okay, she's she's a wealthy woman.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: She's she's written so many songs, like, honestly, we could
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: have done a whole episode on Jo. The songs she
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: has sold to other people are written for other people,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like mind blowing who she's written for, like fucking everybody,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Elton John, you know what I mean, Like phenomenal, Like
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: like she can write at fucking number one on the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: back of a fag box while fucking taking a dump,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Like it's ridiculous how talented this woman is. But this
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: song I Will Always Love You, which everybody knows.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: She didn't. She didn't just recoup the success in the
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: royalties of this church, did she.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: No?
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, here's the thing. When you write, you
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: know you have the writers of a song, and you
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: have the performers of a song. Tommy, you and I
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: both know that the fucking writer gets all the royalties,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: or at least, yeah, they get the they get the
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: big piece of the pie. So Whitney wasn't starving off
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: the back of I Will Always Love You, But Dully
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: made something like ten million dollars off the back of it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: And with that money, she invested in an office complex
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: in one of the poor, more black areas of Nashville
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: as a way to give back to the black community,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: to honor Whitney Euston. And they went in and they
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: built up this big office complex in a fairly run
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: down area of town, created jobs, creating energy around the area,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: and basically turning it on its head.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Who does that, you know what I mean? Who does? Like?
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: You never hear that?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sure there are philanthropic people around the place,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: but like I mean, it's it'd be so easy to
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: not do that.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: This woman acts like I like to think I would
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: act if.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I yes, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: She is carrying it through.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: She didn't just turn around and go, oh the check
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: is in?
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Give that to some of the some of the black
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: lads downtown will you she didn't. She outlined, You'll be
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: guarantee she stood over the whole project, the whole project.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: That place will be making money for a one hundred years.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Got the swinging power of Dolly. It always
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say it. And she's still
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: with us, thankfully, But like I think, long after Dolly's gone,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: there'll be Dolly like Dolly is just it's it's up
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: there with Nike at the moment, you know what I mean.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: It's something with especially would they be a couple of
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: posthumous miracles you're talking about her.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just leaving it out there. I'm leaving
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it out there there into the ether of your and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the people's ears to start making up their own mind.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: But we're not even through it yet. No, we're not
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go through her whole life. But I'm just touching
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: off things just so people can start making their own
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: opinion on it. Now. I'm just throwing this in there
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: because it's just another one parton did play a principal
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: roads She can act act her ass off too. That's
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: a talent to go for singing to acting. It's steel
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Magnolia's Now, that's an absolute dose of a movie in
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: my book, Would I watch it hungover, you know, needing
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a bit of a cry, Yes, I would, But I'm
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just noting it because of the movie's
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: absolute worldwide success. Just in case you're wondering she was
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: able to stay like that movie has absolute stone called
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: killers of actors in it, you know, you know, unbelievably
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: to a top end actress, and she held her own
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: amongst them like that must kind of that most kind
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: of annoy a serious actor when all of a sudden,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: like you know you, oh, here comes see old country
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: bumpkin music country music star. Oh shit, she can act
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: as well as I can.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: You know that must.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: It's kind of put you in your spot.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: A small but it's very Beyonce cover.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: If it's a touch, isn't it to touch? But I
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: would wage is that triple threat? You know, I would
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: wager this right now. It could be wrong. I could
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: be wrong. Beyond it could be a lovely woman. It's
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: not that she just doesn't put much of her personal
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: self out there to the world. From what I can tell,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: she doesn't. She never smiles. Christ she never smiles for
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: one thing. You know what I mean, so, I don't
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: know how good bad are and different Beyonce is, but
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: her and jay Z always looked like they have a
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: fucking pending ESB bill. Do you know what I mean?
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: They've always look If you've never seen Beyonce smile, Tom,
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: then you've clearly never seen her hunting condors, fucking grinning
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: from ear to ear. Tom. What else he's died on?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: There a TV movie about her early life, Dally Parton's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Coat of Many Colors, a little throwback to jerr There
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Yes Indeed, which came out in twenty fifteen, took it
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: its name from the nineteen seventy one song of the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: same name, which told the story of her humble upbringing.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Doesn't hurt to have a humble upbringing in these instances.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: She also provided the music that was the guiding Spirit
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: written in the actual title Guiding Spirit behind the movie Dumpling,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: which came out in twenty eighteen. I think I attempted
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: to watch Dumpling?
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Did I?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I think I did? Anyway to do list, Yeah, here's
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: one for you. This is straight out the Gate, Straight
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: out the gate, no questions asked. This is stamp it
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: with the tea stamp Dolly, a lifelong teetotaler, later portrayed
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: an angel, portrayed an angel, portrayed an angel, you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: the men of herself There and Dolly Parton's Christmas on
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the Square twenty twenty Netflix movie.
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  Speaker 3: I have seen that, Tom, have you?
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I haven't.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It is straight up unfucking watchable.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: It did. The stills from the movie looked pretty and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: what it reminded me of was remembering Scrooged when they
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: were making the Dickens. You know, they were actually filming
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it looked like
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I'm going to put it down to
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Dolly not wanting to steal the thunder of Christmas.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I skipped over quickly. Their lifelong teetotal She's actually was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: never she never touched a drop. She has alcoholism on
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: both sides of the family, so she's seen the damage
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: it can do. Alcohol is a number one killer, she
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: claimed in her book. She wrote, Now, I don't know,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe it is. This wasn't a white skill. Maybe
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: it's up to it's her own opinion. She wrote it
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: in her twenty twenty book Dolly Parton Songs, Song teller
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: my life in lyrics, your temperance. Hello, yeah, tick, tick,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: tick and tick. Now we'll go back through them. We'll
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: tot up her virtues here and see if we can
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: find them. I have one more, this one. I'm sorry.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: This one's pretty. This one's pretty cool. Pretty sainety is
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: pretty sainty. Dolly's opinions always carry weight, so when she
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: did an interview for Billboard magazine last year, she expressed
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: her support for Black Lives Matter movements, saying, I understand
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: people having to make themselves known and felt and seen,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: so of course black lives matter. Do you think our
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: little white access are the only ones that matter? No?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I mean who can say it better? Who could say
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: it better than that? I mean, if that isn't justice
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: for all, I don't know what it is.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Jar.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, this woman is just to put it like that.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, going back over them, Tom, we had prudence, justice, temperance, courage, faith, hope,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: and charity. I think you've nailed them one by one there, Tom.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I noticed that you didn't mention the movie Ryanstone.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: You know what, there's only so much ink we we've
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: got here at a TG tower. So, I mean, you
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: know some things I had to skip over. Rhyanstone was
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I can only barely remember to fill.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Me in.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: An action comedy, line, dance and movie starring Sylvester Stallone
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: with his love interest Dolly Parton in the early eighties.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: So you're talking fully ripped and shredded Sylvester Stallone, lackin
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: on fluffy curly hair, Dolly Pardon. The movie was not
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: well received, TOMPs, So I reckon, when we are totting
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: this up in the Vatican, let's just keep that off
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: the IMDb page.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Do you know what, though, the second you said those
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: two people, you were like Sylvester salone the eighties Dolly Parton.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to go in and watch that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: right now. I certain God, I'll give you a ship.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I watched that and Roadhouse one half another.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: I challenge, I challenge you to watch the fucking trailer
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: for this thing. Oh listen, well, look, hey, you know
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: what we're gonna say, Tom, who's to say that Dolly
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Parton didn't do that piece of shit movie, Get a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: paycheck and go open a fucking orphanage with it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: This is the other side of it. It would seem
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: for the longest time she's been married. She married one
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: the day she moved to Nashville. She met her husband
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: and they got married within two years the day she
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: moved to Nashville. They've never had kids. So I think
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: she's almost like a godmother to the world in a sense,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: especially I let the very least the people of Tennessee.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: So you know, she's it would seem an awful lot
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: of her place. What are you gonna do with all
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: the cash after a certain point, Now you can amass
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: it and just keep going. I'm staking that money. Where
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: people love to talk about money, she doesn't really likes
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to give it away. Now let's let's skip through them.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: So you know, first one of prudence, she seems to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: be like she seems to have a bit of cop on.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I don't see. There doesn't seem to be many stories
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: when you go rooting around of her being a flesh,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a bit of a flesh. Then you know, and I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: think she's for sure a prudent business woman, This woman
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: shadow over, I don't think there's any question she's There'll
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: be more really throughout the next level. I've probably smattered
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: a few men there there. They would they would easily
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: if we're missing any of the virtues here. They'll show
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: up in the miracles bit, for sure. I've put down
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff in the miracles bit. Justice, you're
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: comfortable enough with her standing up for the likes of
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the black more here as well the black folk in
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: for where she built that offices, and also just straight
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: up going which I mean, she'd have a lot of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: conservative white Southern people who would be big followers of hers,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and she'd know exactly what she's saying, and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that's a bloody good thing to say, and say it
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: in her own language. You know. Do you think our
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: little white asses are the only one that matter?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. Also, not just just playing devils
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: have a cardo on this one. It's very possible that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: country music under indexes in the black community. So Dolli's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: being fairly prudent, keeping her keeping her hand in both
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: pots there.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course. But I mean, what does it hurt,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: you know, what does it hurt to bring I mean
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying, I'm not saying she's not doing it
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: all out of the goodness of her heart. But also
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: prudence is high here as well. I would say, temperance
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: clearly covered never touched that just maybe I got to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: bring a bit of cynicism to the whole thing. I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: got it. Look, listen, listen, Cardinal McBride, I understand. I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: understand you were the same way when you were trying
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: to get across the line. I understand. I get you. Courage,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I think horror, you know, coming out of walking away
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: from even Wagner's show that time, who knew she had
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: something lined up, but at the same time, to walk
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: away from a nice cozy.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Walking away from Wagoner's job, Tom walking away from a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: cushy life with all the insects he could eat on
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: fu locus.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Like sixteen seventeen years of age to literally the night
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: after her debs, she threw off her cersage and thrests
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And as she says itself, she goes my
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: matching luggage. I filled up my form matching luggage, which
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: they are actually, you know, four grocery bags that all
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: came from the same shop essentially, which is another Greade
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: line that you know she's thrown out one hundred times,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: but it works every single time. So there she is
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the force. The four cardinal ones I feel recovered him.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: And as far as the theological ones jar, faith, hope
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and charity can come.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think, Yeah, let's not insult the woman by
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: even questioning her faith hoping.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: I think you could literally write that, you know, under
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: a picture of our on your wall, along with you know, live, love,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: left or whatever. That could be her new one, faith,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: hope and charity written under you know those lights we
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: talked about before, you were saying how hard the little
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: the little red lights that you get, the little red
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: bulbs that you put in front like the child of prey.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: So it's all looking it's all looking good. It's dullies
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: to lose here, Tom, it really is. So we're comfortable anyway.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: She definitely she is a servant of God, the god
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: of country music, and I would imagine real God. And
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and of course she's virtuous. She's got all the virtues
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: required according to the TG show. Now bring on the miracles.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: This is where we're into number three. And if any
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: of you were small, but if you go, oh no,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: does she hit all the virtues? Have a fucking listen
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: to this. To bite my tongue and bite my fingers
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: to not type out everything. A miracle is one pulled off.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: But these are just a couple, a couple of things that.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: I have a couple that do it as well.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear. I want to hear more.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Aside from her stage and screen activities, partners involved in
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: a broad array of projects, like in nineteen eighty six
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: she opened the Aforemen Dollywood, a team parks centered in
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: the Appalachian traditions in the Great Smoky Mountains of eastern Tennessee.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: All in all, she has created jobs for more than
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: four thousand people in Tennessee. That's that's not to mention
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: like all the roadies that go over here on the road,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: all the people that get paid every time she plays
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: an arena. That's just in Tennessee. She's employed. She's got
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: four thousand to paychecks to think about.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Tom. It's around about here that I should tell you
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: I've been to Dollywood. No, no, yeah, no, I'll please
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: tell me you're only messing though. I do not suffer jealousy.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I do not suffer jealousy. I'm happy with my lot
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: dar in life.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I really am. I've got a nice life. But right
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: now I'm absolutely seething, frothing at the fucking collar. Are
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: you serious?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: You were in I mean yeah, I mean you remember
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: last podcast I mentioned that we picked up some Moonshine
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: and Gatlinburg when we were in honeymoon. Well, what's besaid
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: gatland and Boord Buddy fucking Pigeon Forge, which is where
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Dollywood is. My god, So the night after we got
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: the Moonshine, we went over to Dollywood, and I gotta
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: tell you it's it's it's exactly as described here that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: she has created jobs for all the local community and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: such like. Now, what I will say is this, you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: know the way normally if you go to a funfair
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: here and it's all like sixteen year old lads swirling
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: the waltzers and shit like this go on in Dollywood,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: everybody is like in their mid to late seventies. I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: love it, And it's it's one of these things where
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: like it's a little bit of a sad indictment of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: America that people have to work that late. But it's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: also really cute to see all these little old people
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: because they're not wearing, you know, hives vests or things
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: like this. They're all dressed up in sort of pioneer
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: clothes and sort of old fashioned. The ladies are in
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: long plaid gingham skirts and shit like this, and the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: gentlemen have got like little leather waste coats and hats
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: and such like on and and everybody is just super
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: fucking nice. Before I get into how nice everybody is
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: in Dollywood, it has to be said that if you
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: think Dollywood is this quaint little Hall of Mirrors style
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: funfair where it's like animatronic Dolly's just waving.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Hah, welcome to Dollywood, it's not.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Tom It is the most fucking knock your balls in
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: the ground theme park I've ever been in my life.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: It is fucking insane. Okay, It's got all these kind
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: of Alton Towers upside down roller coaster rides like it
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: is batshit crazy. All the rides I've ever been on
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: my life. If I've been in Disneyland or Universal Studios
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: or anywhere like that, I've been lucky to be to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: these places in my life. Dollywood beats them hands down.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Everything is fucking state of the air, terrifying. The food
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: is amazing. We were there in like October and some such,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: so everything was pumping spiced. But like all the food
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: food and the pretzels, and it's just just carnival food
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: like hot dogs and all this kind of thing. But
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: everything was absolutely delicious, and everything was just so smiling. Now,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: you go on ahead and enjoy that hot dog, and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: I hope you have a great rest of your day
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: and all this kind of thing, all these little old people.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: But they had one ride. I was having the time
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: of my life. They had one ride there Tom called
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: the Wild Eagle, Okay, and it had only just it
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: had only just opened, and it was the it was
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: the only at the time, it was the only ride
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: of its type in America.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Explain.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: So there's a few elsewhere now I see them cropping
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: up time and time again. But it was the kind
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: of thing where you'd sit when you went. When you
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: walked in and you sat down at first, the ground
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: lowered so that your feet were dangling. Okay, but but
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: you were like, you know, it was like the rail
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: was in the middle, and there was like four people
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: out one side and four people out one side, so
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: if you can imagine like an eagle's wings. Yeah, and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: you went up. It wasn't I will say, it wasn't
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: the highest thing I've ever been on my life. But
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: the fall was the steepest. First It wasn't a vertical fault,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: but was designed in such a way that you experienced
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: zero G on the way down because the straps that
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: strapped you in weren't tight, so as you went. As
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: you went down like a rocket ship, you rose off
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: the seat like you literally rose off the seat and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: you're literally weightless on it. And Tom, I'm not gonna
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: kid you. As I went down, I really felt I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, this is picture wrapper McBride. I'm fucked
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: really going to die in that feel like I'm going
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: to die.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, that is the dream, right I felt?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: I felt this is it McBride's McBride's dying to the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: point like I'll put it to you like this as
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: I as I went down so fast, I got like
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: a buzz at the end of me tool, right, I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: get you.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: They say that happens, They say that happens.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But and it wasn't like buzz. Oh hey, this
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: ride is making me feel kind of sexy. I was like, oh,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: I know what that is. That's the muscle that holds
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: my pass in at the end of my tool loosening.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: I am this is how people piss themselves. Like you
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: know something happens, and the little valve at the end
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: of their tools just sort of relaxes and let's go,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: because it's like, what fuck this, I'm out of here,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: and you just you can't stop yourself from pissing. Your
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: piss just pisses all that.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm about to piss myself in Dollywood now.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: I pulled out of it when we when we hit
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: the bottom and we dip back up, it was everon
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: all just clamped backs up. But I was like, I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: am going to piss myself right here, right now in
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Dollywood on the fucking wild Egal.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Dolly Parton almost made you piss yourself. I mean that, Netlcher,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I mean and you thought you were gonna die as
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: a result of Dolly part these.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: Some might say Tom that thanks to Dolly Parton, I
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: experienced an out of body experience.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Come on, I got one.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: I got one more story. I got one more story
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: about Dolly Wood AND's about the wild Legal as well.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: The rest of the rids are all brilliant. I got
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: some I got some honeymoon photos and when I'm I'm
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: gona take them and show them to you on the socials.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: So it's in the morning. We get to Dollywood nights
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: nearly at like eight o'clock and we have our breakfast
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: in there and it's this wonderful old sort of log
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: cabinet kind of thing. But it's not like when you
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: go to other team parks and it's like, oh, here's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: a fiberglass log cab, and this really felt like it
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: was an actual log cabin. Happytability team park around it.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: And this little old lady comes over and she serves us,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: and she's like, she looks like she looks like Granny
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: from the Looney Tunes, you know what I mean. And
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: she moves like that, and she's got the little reading
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: glasses at the end of her nose and everything, and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: where are you all from when we told her we
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: were on honeymoon and all this kind of thing. And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: they love the Wild Legal because the Wild Eagle had
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: only just opened. Okay, yeah, so it was new and
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: it was big, and it was certified fastest as an
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: American and they're also proud of this thing. So she goes, well,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: have you all read the you know you'all gonna go
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: on the Wild Eagle today? And we were like, yeah, absolutely,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: we intended we want to go on one of everything.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: She goes, oh, well, you make sure and go on it,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: because we're just so proud of that thing. And we
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: said that's fine, and she goes, what time are you
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: going on? And we goes, you know what, We're just
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: gonna like just gonna do our thing and maybe go
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: on later in the day. She goes, well, now, honey,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: you want to make sure go on it nice and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: early in the morning. You do want to go looking
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: to go on that ride between the hours of one
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: o'clock and three o'clock because it's shut. We're like, oh ah,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: like you know, and and I was like, okay, it's
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: like a maintenance thing that it shuts from one to three.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the heads up, by the way, because you'd
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: hate to, like, you know, I have to leave at
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: three o'clock in the wild legal shot and I didn't.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Get yeah, So I goes, like, the righting shots for
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: two hours?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Why does the rite shot for two hours? And she
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: just laughed, this lovely little Tennessee laugh, like I was
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: a fucking idiot. She goes like, oh, sugar, that's when
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: the bees come out.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: That's when the fucking bees the bees, that's.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: When the bees come out. Yeah, as she just said,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: it's so matter of fact that, like you know, there's
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: apparently in the in the in the smoky mountains of
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: what have you, there's like a high bee population that
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: comes out around about that time, and the wild Legal
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: track goes straight through nature preserve or some shit, so
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: they close it between the hours of one and three.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going wild Legal straight through fucking cloud of bees,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: which would have absolutely made me pass myself. Tom.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I love that the bees have a time, do you
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, only in Dollywood would bees
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: have one in three is okay, we can do one
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of the okay, cool, cool, cool, just like.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Oh sugar, that's what the bees come out.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Ah man, I want to go to Dollywood there.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: What else have you got? What else has Dolly done?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Obviously she created up the four thousand jobs and probably
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: more at this stage, but two years later she created
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: the Dollywood Foundation, an organization with the aim of providing
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: inspiration and education resources for children. I mean, who does that?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much good in this one. In
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Dolly launched the My People Fund, which donated
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a month for six months to families
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: whose homes were destroyed by the wildfires in East Tennessee.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: The fund eventually Don't donated eight point six million to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: families in need and still operates to help residents pay
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: rent and utilities just cause, jer you don't have to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: do any guys, you just cause I mean, yeah, listen,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: loads of people do the celebri decided to do it,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: loads of people do you know the you know, text
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: fucking Dolly one O two because I'm going to be
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: you know, on the fucking chase this week, you know,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: hopefully raised ten grand like this woman's yea, literally there's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: a grand a month to help you get over the hump.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: You won't die hunger when you've got a grand a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: month for six months just to help you get out
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and give out eight point six million during that time.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: And it's still going on, just to pay rent and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: utilities to people who are struggling.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: Jesus, Tom, you haven't even mentioned the Dolly Parton Imagination Library.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: No, no, listen, this is the thing. There's so many
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Please explain the imagination.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: The Dolly Parton Imagination Library is a foundation set up
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: by Dolly Parton that will deliver one book every month
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: to a child, no questions asked, until that child is
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: eighteen years of age and date, she is giving away
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty million books.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty million, one hundred and thirty million.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: That's sixty five times the population of Ireland. Yeah no, no,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: not ecuse I'm wrong. It's it's closer to that thirty,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: is it. Anyway?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: Well, she needs to send you a fucking Matts book. Tom,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: Here's what it is, right, it's late, we'll get it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: We'll get it. Busy at Matt's for Tom over here,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: the one with the B on the cover of the team.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: The fucking be one hundred and thirty million books, rich
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: or poor, young or old. If you're a child in
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: America and you would like Dully to send you a book,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: you give her your name and address and boom, there
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Genuine people are going, yeah, yeah, but should people do that?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck does that? Who does nobody does it?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Nobody say that? And we're not even finished yet. We're
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: not not even finished yet for us to pass judgment
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: on the overall. But it's it ain't looking back, you
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. In April twenty twenty as the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: coronavirus began to spread worldwide, the icon't donate it just okay,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: let's get this going. A million dollars to the diseases
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: research in Vanderbilt University, which is a wealthy university already,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: which helped fund the Moderner now is directly for the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: moderna COVID nineteen vaccine. Like she just went, there's a
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: million quid, million quid there, you go, go get it
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: into get it, man. If we need to speed things
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: up by some lunches, for the fucking staff, whatever we
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: gotta do. Here we go, there's a million quid. Just
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: get out of town again.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Who does that, Tom, that's the Vanderbilt industries. They've already
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: got a lot of money. They've got all that, They've
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: got all that truck money coming in as well. You know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming it's the same people that do the Vanderbilt
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: trucks as do the Modarena vaccines.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: It it sounds like one of those wealthy New York families,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't it.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: You know, like the I gotta tell you by the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: time that rolled around, and we'll talk about this now second,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: because you've got fucking more to go on. But when
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: I heard last year, in the middle of the pandemic
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: that the vaccine had been sponsored and buy and large
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: paid for by Dolly Parton, Yeah, I didn't even I
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: didn't even question that.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. I thought, Oh yeah, Literally, Now, if
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: they said, you know, Jeff Bezos had Donna, you got cool, cool, cool,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: good on you, or I don't know, somebody's supremely wealthy,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: like you know, fifty cent or something, you got class, well, wow,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: that's amazing. But when I heard same as that, when
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I heard Dolly did them, went yeah, because wout even
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: knowing all these facts, it just.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Went, yeah, that that fits something she'd do.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that Dolly would do. Now since then, now,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: when I looked at that, and I looked at it
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: against us writing this up, she gave way more than
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: a million dollars, way more for a million dollars. But
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: also what she probably did was when you weigh in,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: you know, heavyweight champion in the world that she is
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: when it comes to country music and all the rest,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: like she's the queen of it. There's no question there.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: When you weigh in, you know, the likes of all
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, Tim McGraw has to dig out the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: fucking book. Toby Keith has to dig out the book.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Willie or Willie Nelson has to dig out the check book.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: They've all got to offer. Well, if Dolly doesn't, we
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: all got to throw our hat the ring here, like
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: we have to, you know it, like literally you gotta
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: throw You gotta come on because you're not going, hey,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: good on you. You know, like she's some you know,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: spunky young kid in the industry. If she looks over
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: her shoulder and you're not fucking rolling in behind her,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: imagine that. Look Dolly would give you. Get the fucking
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: check book out this instant. You would too, like I'm
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: gonna buy his breakfast, but you just have to throw
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: in money for the tip. Do you have any more
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: on her there before I finish up with this.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got one. I've got one. If you want
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: to talk miracles, Tom, please not for nothing. Dolly Parton
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: wrote Joe Lane and I Will Always Love You on
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: the same day what she wrote.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Him on those same I knew she was handy. Two
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: home runs off the first pitch. I know I'm doing
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of American sports here, but look home run,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: like drove it over the back wall twice. People wouldn't
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: write one song that good in their lifetime. She wrote
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: two on the one. Are you joking me?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: When asked about it, she was just like, well, I
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: guess I had a pretty good day that day. You
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: fucking think. Wow, that's pretty miraculous right there.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: That's iron clad. That's iron clad. Geez is us?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Where was your head at?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: What kind of supplements does this woman take?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: It's not even that she wrote, she wrote, she wrote
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: the two of them on it, like, by her own admission,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: not even a day tom on a Sunday afternoon.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: When typically you know we're doing dying or chasing children around,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: I wrote our children around the place typically gone with
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: this day ever end. And she's just sitting back, kicking
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: back on you know what, I'm not working today, But
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: well I'm not working. I may have to do a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: bit of work and I'll write too. I mean, of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: the greatest songs ever fucking written. Well, if anybody was
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: kind of going, yeah, you know what, a lot of
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: those are virtuous and all the rest, did she really
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: pull off any miracles? Well? How about this last, but
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: not least, Dolly actually saved the life of a child
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: actress on the set of the aforementioned Christmas on the
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Square Now, Jerry will Tone not a great movie, but
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: look at a bunch of people got work out of it.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm thinking. As an actor myself, a lot
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: of people got a lot of work and well paid.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you it. Netflix made it for Dolly Parton.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Chit fucking change. Yep, she straight up saved the kid.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Talia Hill, a nine year old actress and dancer cast
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: in Parton's film, revealed that the Jolene singer saved her
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: from ending up in what could have been a fatal accident.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Talio was stepping off a pavement. Head back to first positions.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: First positions being the start of the hook and scene.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Head back to first positions. She's stepping off the pavement,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: not looking on a vehicle damn near ran her down? Yeah,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: ripping by for the angelic Dolly grabbing her by the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: arm and reefing her back onto the road. Seventy odd
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: years of age. Reef this child back onto the road
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: straight past could have killed the child saved by a
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: woman dressed in an angel outfit. I mean, what more
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: have I got to do here?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Joe I mean, she wasn't dressed in an angel outfit, Tom,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: those were just the clothes she wore to set.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Well, if those are her actual clothes, that's, to me
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: is what an angel looks like. I'm sorry, Tom, I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: got one more miracle that I've seen Dolly.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, with my own eyes. Oh, because I haven't
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: actually seen Dolly Parton perform in The Point a couple
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: of years back.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Good God.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was liven The Point a couple of years back,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen. There there, but you couldn't miss it.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Great show altogether. Okay, I was gigging at night, sold out.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I remember it. I was actually gigging at it. Remember
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: I was geaking. She would have appreciated that, but I
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: would have loved to see her. But I was gigging
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: at night.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: Here you go. I mean there was two things. Number
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: One that she she had like a troop of backup singers,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: like six people backup singers, and we weon't who's gonna
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: come on and sing Islands in the Stream Withar. And
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: she got like the male guy from the backup singers
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: to come out and sing Islands in the Stream of Ar.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: But he was the fucking living spit of Kenny Rogers,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: literally the living Yeah yeah, the gray hair of the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: beating and all that. That's not the miracle, Okay. The
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: miracle is this. I've never seen anything quite like it
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: in my life. And she couldn't have known this was
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: taking place. Four or five rows in front of me
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: and my wife was this woman who was off her
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: fucking face and she'd been a pain in the whole hole. Okay.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: It was a sit down concert, and you know, it's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: a dolly a part in concert, so it's like a
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: quite an older audience and you know, a few younger
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: people or whatever. But this lady was like mid thirties,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: off her fucking face, okay. And there was an intermission,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: and when we came back from intermission, she was definitely
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: off of face. So we reckon. She fucking dropped a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: few things in the in the titleist, so what have
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: you like? This wasn't drunk, This was awful face right.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Everybody sitting down in the whole of the fucking three
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: arena except this gey bag sitting up yelling and roaring
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: and having a good time. Tom Lovely, Sorry I did
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: I did the accent wrong.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: There go on, let's hear it, yelling and having a.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Good tom rage. It's like irma gord, and everybody was
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: telling like excuse me, like you know, would you mind
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: sitting down because those people there with their moms in
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: their fucking seventies. And she's like, oh, hello, what's a concert.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: I'm going to dance if I want to dance, And
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: we're like, bitch, you are fucking dancing to Code of
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: Many Colors, all right, sit the fuck down. This this
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: went on easily for ten minutes, and I'm getting hot,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: okay because duddys in like a slow part of the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: of the concert. She's playing her older stuff. She's playing
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: Code of Many Colors. Tears in everybody's eyes, right, and
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: this gey bag is like gyrating and doing fucking all
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: this kind of dancing okay, And the bouncers have been
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: called and they came to heur and the tolder to
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: sit down two or three times, and she hadn't sat down.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: So this woman's getting sucked out. Okay. But here's the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: thing I've learned from this experience is that bouncers won't
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: just grab a woman and get them out. They had
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: to wait around for a female bouncer to come and
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: get her and grab her and take her okay, so
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: that that end up another song okay, And it's Studies
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: out there singing her heart out, and everybody in this
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: circumference of this woman is just so fucking pissed off
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: and sick at this. We were like, you know, we're
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: missing we're not missing the concert, but you're drawing all
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: the attention to yourself, which is probably your fuckingmo to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: begin with. All right, the female bouncer comes along, grabs
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: her firmly around the waist, and leads her out into
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: the aisle, and the ones are like, oh, it was
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: only done soon. It's a concerts, it's only.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: Done so.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: And they were like, you know, and there they were
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: like good, ridden's the bad rubbish going, yeah, the fuck
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: you're spiling on everyone, And they tucker to the exits
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: that takes you back out into the concourse. And the
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: minute her head disappeared from view, then then then tumble
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: out a bit and.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: And I want see everybody on their feet dancing. Everybody
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: gets their feet and to start dancing. In nine to five,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: and she plays five straight songs of nothing but bangers.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: Everybody's up swinging sway and having a good time.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: It was like she felt miraculously the anger that we
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: had towards this woman and waited after she had danced
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: through Code of Many Colors, after she danced through I
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Will Always Love You, waiting until that woman was out
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: of sight before kicking into the bangers, thus rubbing that
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: woman of a chance of songs to dance and giving
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: all of us a fucking spectacular story to tell.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: Why the story? Oh my, would you hate?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Look, okay, I'm not comparing us being a you know,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: we've done decent sized gigs. But you know it yourself.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: You can spot one lump of poison in the middle
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: of a big crowd. You can spot, and you can
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: feel the vibe of people around it. You can be guaranteed. Okay,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: they had their set listen, their song list and all
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. But I guarantee you, Dolly, she
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: turned the juice on when she fucking got sucked out
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: the door. You know what she listen. She's done enough
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: gigs now to even since it without looking.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: There's a dose no idea how this happened, Tom, But
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: it was just so well timed and the only way
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: that it could have worked as good as it worked
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: was divine intervention.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Need we say anymore?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: That top getting rid of the snakes as the number
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  Speaker 3: one miracle performed in this country.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Let's move on into the fort bit, the canonization. This
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: is a discussion, that's the roundtable discussion, after everything has
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: been put forward by all the congregation of device from
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: the back of beyonds at, that amazing group basically put
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: everything forward across to the Pope himself. But before we
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: pass judgment, we have to point out that, of course
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Dolly is thankfully still with us. And yes, we know
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: typically takes five years now after someone has popped off
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: this mortal coyle to become a saint and all the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: rest of the brain they're running. But it's our show
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: and we're making the rules, thank you very much. Not
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  Speaker 1: a very old woman either, No, I mean she's seventy five.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: She's seventy five right now. So like you know, we
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: know plenty of people seventy five listen to achieve one,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: and I mean this would they'll have a good one
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: hundred of her success, one hundred of her achievement. When
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: you hear I'm gonna wreck some of this up because Look,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna be swayed by her past awards and
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: nods that they do have, you know, to be mentioned,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: because the sweet Jesus, there aren't enough mental pieces in
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: the fucking world of story this lot. But we're not
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: gonna be swayed by it. What we want you to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: understand when I say one hundred of this woman's career
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: would see anybody listen, any artists you know right for
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: the rest of their life partners. Contributions to the art
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  Speaker 1: culture of the United States earned her numerous awards from
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: organizations beyond the music and film industry life not just arts,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: as far as jolly actual real people awards like just
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: shying no Bell. She was named Leaving Legend by the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Library of Congress in two thousand and four, like Jesus Christ.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: That's not just apelgn the goat doo, like this is
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: by the Library of Congress. These people don't mess around,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, jar for her enrichment of
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: the American cultural heritage. I mean, you've been to Dollywood.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: You already said it was you know it had the
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Appalachian traditions going on there, with pumpkin spice and all
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: the rest. Of little level ones going around with the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: glasses and the end of the nose. Do you think
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: of the cultural minister we have here in Ireland and
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: what they've done for you know, think about the contributions.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and five, she received the US Government's
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: National Medal of Arts, and in two thousand and six
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: she was recognized at the Kennedy Center for the Performing
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Arts in Washington, d C. For her lifetime artistic achievement.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: She was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: in ninety nine. She's had twenty.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: Five I'm hearing a lot of plays. I'm hearing a
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: lot of Yeah, I'm here in a lot of places
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: that aren't the Vatican. There, Tom, I know, and we're
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: not going.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: To be swayed by this, but I just want the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: listeners to know who we're dealing with here. When you
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: say don't fuck with Dolly, this is what we're talking.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: Don't fuck with Dolly.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: There is nobody, I mean, nobody comes clue when in
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: a NASA's roar. I don't given care if you're not
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: a Dolly fan or a country fan. There's nobody gets
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: winning a NASA's roar of this and still doing it
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: at the integrity she's still doing in that she has
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: had twenty five songs reach number one, twenty five songs
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: reach number one the Billboard Country Music Charts, forty four
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: career top ten country albums, a record for any artist,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: by the way, and she's had one hundred and ten
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: career charted singles over the past forty years. All in,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: she's made hold onto your pants everybody. Now, I'm not
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: making these numbers up, We're just rounding them up. She's
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: made it into seventeen serious Hall of Fames one hundred
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: and eighty nine award win with three hundred and eighty
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: two nominations, and she has composed over over five thousand
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: songs throughout her career. Now you you said it that
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: she wrote Jolene and Fuck and I Was Always Love
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: You on a Sunday afternoon when Chris Christofferson was coming down.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? She's writing songs little yeah,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: like DJ Khali thinks he's hot shit, you know what
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I mean? Timberland thinks that another one. How about five
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: fucking thousand? Come back to me when you have five
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: thousand songs throughout your career.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: That I hear that she's written five thousand songs. I'm wondering,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: Oh you writ Joline and I will always love you
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: on the one day? Was it a slow day? We
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: only work on half a day love, But.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: I mean so many of these include like songs for
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: you know, genres that we will probably never come across,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: you know, like Christian and all the rest of it,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: and as well as that, literally hundreds of pound, hundreds
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: of songs for other she she's doing the work of
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: a person who has no time to be singing or
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: a personality, do you know what I mean? Like five
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: thousand songs and some of the things we mentioned Jesus Christ,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: there's another fifty things we could have mentioned that she's
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: done or is involved in.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: But despite a hugely successful career spanning five decades and
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: amassing an estimated fortune of six hundred and fifty million dollars,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: and all her achievements in charity work listed throughout today's show,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: it would seem the prevailing factor in people's love for
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: the seventy five year old singer, songwriter, actress, entrepreneur and
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: philanthropists is that she is still the funny, warm, self
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: deprecating Tennessee Mountain girl with her coat of many colors
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: that started out all those years ago on Locus Ridge.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: And my question to you, Cardinal McBride, is this, does
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Dolly Rebecca Pardon become a saint today on the Tom
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: and Jerry Show.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Well, let's let's pull out a Tom. Okay. Yeah, and
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: again we're we're not carrying any bitterness into this based
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: on people who are already sayings where we're like, well
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: fuck it. If they got in, then he's definitely getting it.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, this is completely independent in my.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Mind, Tom, in the rules of sainthood that were written,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: you know when, since Peter had his first church. I
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: would say that by today's interpretation of those rules, if
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: there are Vatican amendments, like there are amendments in law,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: then by any standards, Dolly meets up with things, even
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: things that we mentioned in passing Back up the Way miracles,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: such as by location where the person is able to
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: appear in two places at once. I mean Dolly was
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: played the Pyramid stage at Glastonbury with two massive screens
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: either side of her. I mean, like, you know you
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: telling me Saint Peter wouldn't have seen that and thought
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: to himself, Holy fuck.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what I mean their interpretation of what
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: America would have been. Hey, absolutely, he literally could have
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: seen her there, googled her on his phone and watched
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: on YouTube on her phone, been in trylocation. How's that?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: What I mean is that Peters get fucking go, get
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: braids in your hair, but not.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: To get overly flippant with the whole thing, because in
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: all firms, I don't think we have to ranking it
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: off to today because as we said, like the servant
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: of God and all the rest to this, we were
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: suggesting that God in this instance is country music. We
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: don't have to look straight back to God and all
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: the rest of it to make a Roman Catholic saint.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Let's put it through the guys that the religion being
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: the CMA Country Music Association and to take religion completely
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: out of it.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: I will I will absolutely do that Tom in one second.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: But I want you to know something, buddy. You gotta
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: believe me when I say this that I didn't sit
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: through a two hour podcast just for the opportunity to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: make a cheap plastic surgery joke.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: But you haven't done it yet.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go on. So don't think I was
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: just waiting here to say this. Boy, I can't fucking
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: leave this podcast without saying it. All right. Yeah, when
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: it comes to miracles, one of the ones that we
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: mentioned was incorruptibility.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna draw a line under it,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: and I haven't written down on this, said, I guarantee
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: you if pride won't be able to fight his town.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: I drove over quickly too.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: I knew you're of the person who is already buried
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: does not decay. And I gotta tell you, Dolly, I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: love you, And that was money well spent, as you
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: said yourself. But I have a funny feeling that you
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: could dig Dolly up in a couple of years and
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: she'd be still looking pretty good. That's all I'm gonna
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: say on that one.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: I abe you couldn't resist it, could you? You couldn't resist.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: You couldn't. I wouldn't have lived with myself, Oh.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I could again, an in fairness, it wasn't a cheap shot. She,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Dolly herself, is such a funny, set deprecating person who
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: will point who. As Jerry said, you can't heckle, you
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: can't heckle Dolly, Dolly Parton, She's pulled the pins on
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: all our grenades.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: As I'm concerned, Tom, and I think I think you're
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: gonna be with me on this one. I think Dolly Parton,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: by any metric, is a shoeing for the Saint.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: I absolutely one hundred and ten agree. Halfway through this episode,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I was gone, yeah, and like you said at the beginning,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: you could put this free lines into this podcast after
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: my prayer to Dolly. You literally could have just handed
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: out to somebody and they go, yeah, read no more
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: happy out stake a farking fark and she is a saint.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: That's it. Oh, you've come through the whole thing. And yeah,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: I'm in one hundred percent in agreement.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: And our listeners are welcome to say no, they want
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: to get fun, if they want to get blocked off
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: her Twitter.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, we're a diplomatic podcast here.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: If you have a very diplomatic podcast.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: But if you've gotten this far, I highly doubt that
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: you're not on board. But it's at this stage I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: think it's with great honor that my Cardinal o'mann and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Cardinal McBride can sign off in the book a sainthood
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: one Dolly Rebecca pardon the patron saint. I've been an
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: absolute fucking legend. I don't know what. They haven't decided
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: on what patron what patronage to link her up with.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: She could be the samey.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: She could be the patron saint of so many things.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: She could be the patron saint of country music Tom.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: She could be the patron saint of the working man.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, what is nine to five if not a
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: him for the working man? And I gotta tell you
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: one thing that the fucking Catholic Church loves you read
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: them and to do with the Bible. They fucking love
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: people who work.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, she could be the patron saint for badass
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: roller coaster rights and on fairness, I mean she patron
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: saint of keeping the.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: Elderly employed McBride himself. Yeah, like that.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: Let's leave it open to the book anybody who wants
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: to put some suggestions out there for what you think
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Dolly will actually become this patron saint of. But for
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: now we're both in agreement that Dolly Parton is most
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: definitely a saint. I knew I was going to enjoy
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: the hell out of this podcast. Here this episode. I
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: was excited all day and for good reason. I had
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: a great time. I had a great time.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: I had such a good time with this podcast Tom
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: that I would consider making podcasting a full time job.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: What are the hours like, Well, typically it's nine to five.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: It's we hope everybody has enjoyed the beatification of Dolly
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: Parton episode of the Tom and Jerry Podcast, and we
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: still have a few more surprises up our sleeves before
• 1:39:02
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• 1:39:05
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• 1:39:06
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• 1:39:10
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• 1:39:13
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• 1:39:27
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  Speaker 3: Like Thoma says, get in touch with us, especially if
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• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: what the ven diagram of people who like Fred Dibna.
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  Speaker 3: Something tells me the ven diagram of people that like
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: Fred and Dolly is a fucking circle.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: I wonder I was Fred a fan of Dolly? I
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Betty was. Can will you? Will you indulge me for
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: a moment?
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it here. I know what it is
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  Speaker 3: before you even say it. I gotta know it.
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  Speaker 1: Stumble out to bed and the kid bowl myself a
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  Speaker 3: No, oh my god, folks, we are gonna keep We're
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• 1:41:19
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• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: for nothing, Tom, We've got bonus episodes coming. Forget about
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  Speaker 3: these big episodes. We got bonus episodes coming. Keep in
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  Speaker 3: the air on Thursday for another fresh bonus episode, My
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  Speaker 1: All the family, well, you know the cool ones. Anyway, Jure,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: let's head to Smoky Mountain.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go see what we can do. About those locusts
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