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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Welcome to Vince. Great to have you with us on
- 0:03Speaker 2: a Friday. The best audience anywhere. It is such a
- 0:06Speaker 2: good day to be with you. I've got a lot
- 0:08Speaker 2: of news to share with you this morning, including on
- 0:11Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk assassination case, the Tyler Robinson murder trial
- 0:16Speaker 2: playing out, and just the beginnings of this thing. It's
- 0:20Speaker 2: a pre-trial hearing, a probable cause hearing. And in that
- 0:24Speaker 2: hearing yesterday, they finally played the audio, video interview with
- 0:29Speaker 2: Lance Twiggs.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Apparently, is that his real name, Twiggs?
- 0:33Speaker 2: So they played Twiggy's video yesterday, and everybody got a
- 0:36Speaker 2: chance to finally hear this guy's voice. And he talks
- 0:39Speaker 2: about Tyler Robinson, and it sure sounds like Tyler Robinson
- 0:42Speaker 2: murdered Charlie Kirk. All the details on that coming up. Hopefully,
- 0:47Speaker 2: we can put some conspiracy theories to rest in the process. Also,
- 0:51Speaker 2: of course, we're going to talk about what the president
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- 0:54Speaker 3: He just fired a which is kind of fun. These
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- 1:06Speaker 3: What the hell's going on there? We've got a lot
- 1:08Speaker 3: more to get to. Coming up on this edition of Vince,
- 1:11Speaker 3: also we'll be joined by the.
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- 2:57Speaker 3: I've heard of it. Today, let's talk about what happened.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Yesterday in Utah at that all-important murder trial for Tyler
- 3:06Speaker 2: Robinson because we're trying to get some justice here for
- 3:10Speaker 2: the murder of Charlie Kirk, for the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
- 3:14Speaker 2: And I can't believe we're approaching a year since that occurred.
- 3:17Speaker 2: It was September 10th of last year.
- 3:19Speaker 5: And....
- 3:22Speaker 2: Finally, there was a lot of haggling in the court
- 3:25Speaker 2: about whether or not this video would be played. Now,
- 3:28Speaker 2: by now you likely know, considering you and I have
- 3:30Speaker 2: been following the details, that Lance Twiggs, the furry, transgender, whatever,
- 3:36Speaker 2: boyfriend of Tyler Robinson, sat down with authorities very quickly
- 3:41Speaker 2: upon Tyler Robinson's capture and discussed all of this and
- 3:45Speaker 2: talked about what he knew and when he knew it. Now,
- 3:48Speaker 2: that video, of course, has been available to be used
- 3:51Speaker 2: as evidence in this trial, which is, of course, why
- 3:53Speaker 2: they recorded it in the first place. And in the
- 3:56Speaker 2: course of the interview, they gave him some limited immunity
- 4:01Speaker 2: so that he couldn't be prosecuted for any of the
- 4:03Speaker 2: statements that he gave in the course of this conversation.
- 4:07Speaker 2: But the reason that was haggling in the courtroom was
- 4:10Speaker 2: the defense, that would be Tyler Robinson's lawyers, were insisting
- 4:14Speaker 2: that the video contained these sort of distant confessions by
- 4:18Speaker 2: a third party that essentially Lance Twiggs would be confessing
- 4:23Speaker 2: on behalf of Tyler Robinson to the murder, and they
- 4:26Speaker 2: didn't want that to be playing out in this pretrial hearing.
- 4:29Speaker 3: They said, it's going to corrupt the jury pool.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Okay.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Well, Erica Kirk and the state prosecutors fought very hard
- 4:38Speaker 2: for transparency, said, we need this video to be public.
- 4:41Speaker 3: We need people to see it, to hear it.
- 4:45Speaker 2: This is really important for trust in the judicial process
- 4:48Speaker 2: and for the truth to get out.
- 4:51Speaker 3: And in the end, they prevailed.
- 4:53Speaker 2: This video appearing for the first time in public, you
- 4:56Speaker 2: get a chance to hear Twiggy's voice. And here's some
- 5:02Speaker 2: of the key moments in all of this. I want
- 5:04Speaker 2: to thank Nick Sorter for doing a great job of
- 5:07Speaker 2: capturing some of the times throughout this testimony.
- 5:11Speaker 3: But let's go to cut four.
- 5:15Speaker 2: This is Lance Twiggs outlining how Tyler Robinson asked him
- 5:20Speaker 2: if he could borrow a Dremel tool. And this was
- 5:24Speaker 2: so that he could engrave messages on bullets.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Sound familiar? Cut four, watch this.
- 5:30Speaker 6: He asks you here, remember how I was engraving bullets?
- 5:32Speaker 6: Was he engraving bullets before this?
- 5:35Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember.
- 5:36Speaker 7: Exactly when, but he had said he was planning to
- 5:39Speaker 7: go hunting with his family. And he asked me if
- 5:44Speaker 7: we had a Dremel, because he said he wanted to
- 5:47Speaker 7: create messages on bullets. And I just told him where
- 5:52Speaker 7: a Dremel was, and I told him to make sure
- 5:55Speaker 7: he doesn't set off a bullet on accident in the house.
- 5:59Speaker 7: But I didn't really think about it until then.
- 6:02Speaker 6: How long before September 10th was this that he asked
- 6:07Speaker 6: about the Dremel?
- 6:09Speaker 5: I don't remember exactly.
- 6:10Speaker 7: Because he'd been talking about the hunting-slash-camping trip for a
- 6:16Speaker 7: couple months, but I don't remember when he was specifically
- 6:21Speaker 7: asking to engrave the bullets.
- 6:24Speaker 5: So are we talking like a year before? Oh, no,
- 6:28Speaker 5: not that long.
- 6:28Speaker 7: It would have been, I'd say, at most a month
- 6:30Speaker 7: before this was when he was asking.
- 6:32Speaker 1: A month before.
- 6:34Speaker 3: A month before.
- 6:34Speaker 2: So he's asking for a Dremel. He's starting to engrave bullets. And,
- 6:39Speaker 2: of course, the bullets that were found at the scene
- 6:43Speaker 2: contained a bunch of engraved messages that were all designed
- 6:48Speaker 2: to be attacks on Charlie Kirk, calling him a fascist,
- 6:53Speaker 2: telling him to catch the bullets. In fact, some of
- 6:56Speaker 2: the testimony yesterday, expert testimony on what was engraved on
- 7:00Speaker 2: the bullets, I've got some of the video here.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Take a look at this.
- 7:03Speaker 2: This is the bullet engraving element.
- 7:06Speaker 4: What are we looking at here on Exhibit 19?
- 7:08Speaker 3: This is the cartridge case that was recovered from the gun.
- 7:12Speaker 4: And what position was this in, in the gun?
- 7:15Speaker 1: This was the, or this is what was in the chamber.
- 7:19Speaker 5: Okay.
- 7:20Speaker 4: In the chamber, meaning that's where a cartridge is before it's,
- 7:25Speaker 4: or when it is fired, correct?
- 7:27Speaker 5: Yes.
- 7:30Speaker 4: Do you notice an inscription or an etching on this
- 7:34Speaker 4: cartridge case?
- 7:35Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
- 7:36Speaker 4: Will you read what that says?
- 7:37Speaker 1: Yes. Notice this bulge.
- 7:40Speaker 5: And if we can go down to.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Page two of the exhibit, will you read what this says?
- 7:46Speaker 1: O-W-O, what's?
- 7:48Speaker 5: And to page three?
- 7:51Speaker 8: This.
- 7:52Speaker 4: And question mark, correct?
- 7:54Speaker 9: Yes, question mark.
- 7:54Speaker 5: All right, if.
- 7:55Speaker 4: We go to States Exhibit 20.
- 8:02Speaker 3: They're going through the bullet engravings here.
- 8:04Speaker 2: So you can see all these messages and throughout they
- 8:08Speaker 2: have the other messages.
- 8:09Speaker 3: Hey, fascist catch is here. Here's the hey, fascist. And
- 8:14Speaker 3: then a catch. And then there's one with a bunch
- 8:16Speaker 3: of arrows written on it.
- 8:18Speaker 2: So a bunch of messages for the victim. A bunch
- 8:23Speaker 2: of deranged messages for the victim here. And Lance Twiggs goes, yeah,
- 8:29Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson was engraving all of these bullets. And sure enough,
- 8:33Speaker 2: those bullets were all found at the scene. So this is, look,
- 8:37Speaker 2: as we go through this, of course, this is completely
- 8:39Speaker 2: damning testimony for Tyler Robinson, every element of this. Now,
- 8:46Speaker 2: another piece of this is, remember, after the assassination, we
- 8:52Speaker 2: now know, we've known for some time that Tyler Robinson
- 8:56Speaker 2: texted Lance Twiggs and indicated to him that he needed
- 8:59Speaker 2: to look under his keyboard inside of the apartment that
- 9:03Speaker 2: they shared. And that's where he found a note that
- 9:07Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson had left behind, indicating that he had assassinated
- 9:12Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. That's what the note says. So let me
- 9:16Speaker 2: take you back a little bit in time first. This
- 9:19Speaker 2: is last September, cut 11. Investigators were discussing this letter
- 9:24Speaker 2: that Tyler Robinson had left behind for Lance Twiggs.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Take a look at that.
- 9:29Speaker 10: The roommate. Police... interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who
- 9:37Speaker 10: was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson. The roommate
- 9:42Speaker 10: told police that the roommate received messages from Robinson about
- 9:46Speaker 10: the shooting, and he did provide those messages to police.
- 9:51Speaker 10: On September 10, 2025, the roommate received a text message
- 9:56Speaker 10: from Robinson which said, drop what you're doing, look under
- 10:01Speaker 10: my keyboard. The roommate looked under the keyboard and found
- 10:05Speaker 10: a note that stated, quote, I had the opportunity to
- 10:09Speaker 10: take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it.
- 10:13Speaker 10: Police found a photograph of this note. The following exchange
- 10:18Speaker 10: was The text exchange then took place. After reading the note,
- 10:23Speaker 10: the roommate responded, What? You're joking, right? Robinson, I am
- 10:30Speaker 10: still okay, my love, but am stuck in Orem for
- 10:33Speaker 10: a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I
- 10:37Speaker 10: can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still.
- 10:41Speaker 10: To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret
- 10:43Speaker 10: till I died of old age. I am sorry to
- 10:46Speaker 10: involve you. Roommate, you weren't the one who did it, right? Robinson,
- 10:53Speaker 10: I am, I am, I'm sorry.
- 10:55Speaker 2: I am, meaning he killed Charlie Kirk, he says in
- 11:02Speaker 2: those text messages. Lance Twiggs confirmed he did find that
- 11:09Speaker 2: note when he spoke to investigators. Here's the video for
- 11:12Speaker 2: the first time seen yesterday. Cut five, watch.
- 11:16Speaker 6: You talked about the note that he left I WANT
- 11:20Speaker 6: TO BRING THIS UP AND I SHOULD SAY THAT THESE
- 11:23Speaker 6: TEXT MESSAGES THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HERE ARE BATES
- 11:29Speaker 6: NUMBER 54.
- 11:29Speaker 5: THE NOTES.
- 11:35Speaker 6: HAVE BEEN TITLED 16.3, THE NOTE, AND THIS IS BATES
- 11:41Speaker 6: NUMBER 58.
- 11:42Speaker 5: DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT ON THE SCREEN THERE? NEW SPEAKER YEAH.
- 11:46Speaker 5: NEW SPEAKER WHAT DO YOU RECOGNIZE IT AS?
- 11:50Speaker 7: That was the note under his keyboard that he was
- 11:53Speaker 7: referring to in the first text of that chain.
- 11:57Speaker 5: So where did you find this?
- 11:59Speaker 7: On his desk underneath his computer keyboard.
- 12:07Speaker 5: And I assume you read it? Yeah. And then what
- 12:17Speaker 5: did you do with it after you read it?
- 12:20Speaker 7: I believe I just put it back down on the
- 12:22Speaker 7: desk after I took a picture of it.
- 12:23Speaker 5: Okay.
- 12:25Speaker 4: And again, the time you read it was probably around
- 12:27Speaker 4: 11 o'clock or so on the 10th?
- 12:29Speaker 5: Yes. The night of September 10th? Mm-hmm.
- 12:35Speaker 10: All right.
- 12:36Speaker 5: And did you ever see that again after you placed
- 12:37Speaker 5: it back on his desk? No, I don't think I did.
- 12:42Speaker 5: And that was a desk in his bedroom? Yes. And
- 12:45Speaker 5: that's a separate bedroom than your bedroom?
- 12:47Speaker 1: Yes.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Confirming the note, confirming all of it.
- 12:52Speaker 2: I mean, just what the investigators have said, hopefully putting
- 12:56Speaker 2: to rest any sort of conspiracy theories around this. And
- 12:59Speaker 2: in fact, the note itself, for a brief moment, appeared
- 13:04Speaker 2: on screen yesterday during the televised proceedings in the trial. Now,
- 13:08Speaker 2: as I understand it, the judge had not intended for
- 13:11Speaker 2: this note to be seen publicly, but sure enough, it was.
- 13:14Speaker 2: It was on screen for a moment before the camera
- 13:16Speaker 2: operator panned away. Here is that note, by the way.
- 13:21Speaker 3: This is what it looks like.
- 13:23Speaker 2: It says here, Luna, that's apparently Tyler Robinson's nickname for
- 13:27Speaker 2: Lance Twiggs. If you are reading this per my text,
- 13:32Speaker 2: then I am so sorry. I left the house this
- 13:35Speaker 2: morning on a mission and I sent an auto text.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I'm likely dead or facing a lengthy prison sentence. I
- 13:44Speaker 2: had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I
- 13:46Speaker 2: took it. I don't know if I will or have succeeded,
- 13:49Speaker 2: but I had hoped to make it home to you.
- 13:52Speaker 3: I wish we could have lived in, and then that's
- 13:55Speaker 3: the end of the note, visible note.
- 13:58Speaker 2: So is there any indication that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk?
- 14:01Speaker 11: Yes.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Endless indications that Tyler Robinson assassinated Charlie Kirk, including in
- 14:10Speaker 2: a handwritten note. No doubt it's possible, of course, to
- 14:15Speaker 2: compare the handwriting to his actual handwriting, which there has
- 14:19Speaker 2: to be lots of. So that's some of the, again,
- 14:24Speaker 2: bombshell evidence presented yesterday. And this is just in the
- 14:27Speaker 2: pretrial hearing. Just in the pretrial hearing. So we have
- 14:32Speaker 2: the note. What else do we have? We also have Robinson.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Here he is talking about Sorry, Lance Twiggs is talking
- 14:44Speaker 2: about how he saw Robinson at home at September 11th.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Cut seven here.
- 14:51Speaker 2: That was the next day in which Tyler Robinson once
- 14:55Speaker 2: again admitted to killing Charlie Kirk.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Cut seven. Take a look.
- 14:59Speaker 6: September 11th. What time did or did you see Tyler
- 15:06Speaker 6: on September 11th?
- 15:08Speaker 5: Yes. When did you first see him on September 11th?
- 15:10Speaker 5: So this is the day after the shooting? Yeah, I
- 15:12Speaker 5: saw him when I woke up.
- 15:15Speaker 7: Like I said, he was up and around doing a
- 15:18Speaker 7: lot of stuff around the house. And then I think
- 15:24Speaker 7: I saw him after that message where I said I'll
- 15:28Speaker 7: come home and say I'm doing laundry because I didn't
- 15:30Speaker 7: want him going to my parents' house right then when
- 15:34Speaker 7: he said there was probably cops outside.
- 15:36Speaker 1: So I.
- 15:38Speaker 7: went back home, and it was just him there, and
- 15:41Speaker 7: I said bye to him, and then he drove off.
- 15:43Speaker 5: So I just went.
- 15:44Speaker 7: Back to my parents' house.
- 15:47Speaker 5: So he acted erratically. Was he pacing? Was he just
- 15:53Speaker 5: sitting down, relaxing? No, he was walking around a lot.
- 15:57Speaker 5: And that's within the home? Mm-hmm. And did he talk
- 16:03Speaker 5: about what he had done? Didn't go into detail.
- 16:08Speaker 7: I just asked him in person if what he said
- 16:11Speaker 7: was true than I before, and he said it was.
- 16:15Speaker 7: I started crying a little bit and said he wishes
- 16:18Speaker 7: he hadn't done it. And then kept going around and
- 16:24Speaker 7: just doing stuff, I think, to keep himself busy or
- 16:27Speaker 7: distracted or something.
- 16:29Speaker 2: So now multiple confessions to Lance Twiggs, all of which
- 16:34Speaker 2: he's relaying to investigators, now captured on that video. And
- 16:39Speaker 2: finally here, I want to share with you Lance Twiggs'
- 16:44Speaker 2: assessment of the surveillance images of a man who certainly
- 16:50Speaker 2: looks like Tyler Robinson, and in the view of Lance Twiggs.
- 16:53Speaker 3: It is Tyler Robinson.
- 16:55Speaker 2: This is a cut nine, Lance Twiggs assessing that security
- 16:59Speaker 2: footage that you and I saw nearly a year ago.
- 17:02Speaker 6: I'm on the FBI's website. You can see the URL
- 17:06Speaker 6: there at the top. This is a press release about
- 17:09Speaker 6: this event. And here on the screen, you see these,
- 17:14Speaker 6: there's looks like there's two rows of three images. Do
- 17:18Speaker 6: you recognize the person in these images?
- 17:22Speaker 7: I wouldn't say with 100% certainty just because of camera quality,
- 17:26Speaker 7: but that looks like him in terms of the shoes
- 17:29Speaker 7: he's wearing, the sunglasses. I don't think I'd specifically seen
- 17:33Speaker 7: him wearing that hat, but he was usually wearing a
- 17:36Speaker 7: hat and then jeans. So it definitely, especially the bottom,
- 17:42Speaker 7: the last two definitely do look like him.
- 17:49Speaker 3: They've got this guy dead to rights. They've got this
- 17:52Speaker 3: guy dead to rights.
- 17:53Speaker 2: And now some of the big questions become, do they
- 17:56Speaker 2: plea out of this? Do they go for some sort
- 17:59Speaker 2: of plea? Do they try and stop this thing from
- 18:01Speaker 2: going to trial at all? Because how in the world
- 18:03Speaker 2: does Tyler Robinson win or convince a jury that he
- 18:08Speaker 2: didn't do this, given the mountain of evidence that exists
- 18:12Speaker 2: against him? Now, in order to get to a plea deal,
- 18:15Speaker 2: you would need both sides to agree. You need both
- 18:17Speaker 2: the defense attorneys and the prosecution to agree to a deal.
- 18:20Speaker 3: What could the deal possibly be?
- 18:22Speaker 2: Now, presumably, Tyler Robinson's lawyers will be looking to take
- 18:26Speaker 2: the death penalty off the table. Utah is a death
- 18:28Speaker 2: penalty state. And as I understand it, their appeal process
- 18:32Speaker 2: is relatively short. So a death penalty after sentencing could
- 18:35Speaker 2: happen relatively quickly compared to so many other places in
- 18:38Speaker 2: the country. And Tyler Robinson's attorneys are going to look
- 18:42Speaker 2: for a deal potentially to foreclose on the death penalty,
- 18:46Speaker 2: perhaps to seek life in prison instead. But at this point,
- 18:52Speaker 2: I don't know that the prosecutors would even do that.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Why take a deal like that when the case is
- 18:57Speaker 2: as open and shut and as obvious as this? It
- 19:00Speaker 2: almost doesn't make sense at all to take a deal.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Just straight up take it to trial. If he wants
- 19:06Speaker 2: to plead guilty, go for it. But the idea that
- 19:09Speaker 2: they would have a deal that precludes the punishment that
- 19:11Speaker 2: he deserves.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Is Nobody wants to see that. Nobody wants to see that.
- 19:16Speaker 3: That guy deserves the chair.
- 19:18Speaker 2: That guy deserves to be put to death for what
- 19:21Speaker 2: he did to Charlie Kirk.
- 19:26Speaker 3: He was squirming yesterday. The reports from inside.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Of the courtroom were that he was fixated on the
- 19:33Speaker 2: testimony from Lance Twiggs. He was watching the video intently,
- 19:36Speaker 2: unlike his behavior in so much of the proceedings.
- 19:40Speaker 3: He's been doing a lot of doodling, apparently. He's got
- 19:42Speaker 3: a pen in his hand. He's been doodling. While we're
- 19:44Speaker 3: at it, maybe we can get some handwriting analysis while
- 19:46Speaker 3: he's in there. But when the video was playing, he
- 19:49Speaker 3: was talking.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Locked in, watching every second of it, squirming, swinging uncomfortably
- 19:56Speaker 2: in his chair. Here's an assessment from inside of the
- 19:59Speaker 2: courtroom yesterday.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Listen to this.
- 20:02Speaker 12: Trace, just more details coming from inside the courtroom from
- 20:05Speaker 12: our digital reporter.
- 20:06Speaker 1: When they got to the point.
- 20:07Speaker 12: Discussing the rifle that was used, Tyler Robinson was squirming,
- 20:12Speaker 12: apparently uncomfortable, swinging in his chair, scratching his nose. He
- 20:16Speaker 12: looked uncomfortable with the texts that were being discussed. Also,
- 20:19Speaker 12: Erica Kirk was looking down, leaning forward, not looking at
- 20:24Speaker 12: the screen.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Showing those texts.
- 20:26Speaker 12: Our reporter also said Erica was audibly crying throughout the
- 20:29Speaker 12: proceeding today. When they got to the part about Lance was,
- 20:34Speaker 12: when he was asking Tyler about the rifle and for hunting,
- 20:37Speaker 12: the very graphic detail about the nature of the gun
- 20:42Speaker 12: that Robinson said did well in the killing, that is
- 20:45Speaker 12: when Tyler's mom, Tyler Robinson's mom, started crying and.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Wiping her eyes.
- 20:50Speaker 12: Charlie Kirk's mother had her hand on Erica's upper arm
- 20:53Speaker 12: and shoulder, and they were both tearful today. After showing
- 20:57Speaker 12: the discord chat logs, the prosecution also put the note
- 21:01Speaker 12: from Tyler Robinson on the screen. That's the handwritten note
- 21:04Speaker 12: that's been discussed that Tyler Robinson left for his lover.
- 21:07Speaker 12: Our reporter inside of the courtroom says it was a
- 21:09Speaker 12: very lengthy, full page, handwritten note, Trace.
- 21:12Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Matt Finn, back to you as the news warrants.
- 21:14Speaker 13: All right.
- 21:15Speaker 3: So that's the assessment from inside the courtroom.
- 21:17Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson freaking out as that Lance Twigg's video was
- 21:21Speaker 2: finally played.
- 21:22Speaker 3: That's what Erica Kirk asked for.
- 21:25Speaker 2: You know, the conspiracy theorizing around this whole trial has
- 21:31Speaker 2: been insane to me for a bunch of reasons. But one,
- 21:33Speaker 2: this idea that like Erica Kirk would somehow have been
- 21:38Speaker 2: responsible for her husband's death. This is retarded stuff that
- 21:41Speaker 2: people are advancing. Erica Kirk has been the one who's
- 21:46Speaker 2: been advocating for maximum transparency on every piece of evidence,
- 21:52Speaker 2: what kind of cover-up is demanding that all of the
- 21:55Speaker 2: evidence be displayed in public?
- 21:57Speaker 3: I mean, just think it through logically.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Erica Kirk is the single greatest force for transparency in
- 22:04Speaker 2: that courtroom. She has her attorney constantly badgering the judge
- 22:08Speaker 2: into releasing the kind of evidence that we just saw
- 22:11Speaker 2: yesterday from Lance Twiggs. I get that people are distrustful
- 22:16Speaker 2: of our institutions. That's well-earned, by the way. That's very well-earned.
- 22:21Speaker 2: But this is one of those Occam's razor situations. From
- 22:24Speaker 2: the very beginning, we knew that Tyler Robinson was the
- 22:29Speaker 2: most obvious guy to be the one who assassinated Charlie Kirk.
- 22:33Speaker 2: And now with a mountain of evidence in front of us,
- 22:36Speaker 2: at this point, I mean, if you get a dead end.
- 22:38Speaker 3: On the conspiracy theory, I don't know what to tell you.
- 22:42Speaker 3: You're lost.
- 22:42Speaker 2: You're a lost soul. You're a lost soul. As always,
- 22:46Speaker 2: allow truth to guide you. That's the guiding principle. Allow
- 22:49Speaker 2: truth to guide you. And in fact, on that, I've
- 22:52Speaker 2: got another element on this. There has been, have you
- 22:56Speaker 2: noticed that for people who have been tempted to believe
- 22:59Speaker 2: that there was some deeper conspiracy here, that Tyler Robinson's
- 23:01Speaker 2: a patsy or whatever, and this idea that they've been
- 23:04Speaker 2: advancing like, oh, why wasn't there an exit wound on
- 23:07Speaker 2: Charlie's body? He gets hit with this bullet. How come
- 23:10Speaker 2: there wasn't an exit wound? Why did it stay within him? Well,
- 23:13Speaker 2: we got answers to that too yesterday. I've got more
- 23:16Speaker 2: on that in just a moment as we look back
- 23:18Speaker 2: on this horrific moment in American history and try and
- 23:21Speaker 2: get some justice. But first, I want to tell you
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- 24:44Speaker 3: Yes, indeed. Thank you to Helix. All right, so this
- 24:47Speaker 3: thing about the bullets, what's going on with the bullets?
- 24:52Speaker 2: It turns out we now have confirmation that the round
- 24:56Speaker 2: that entered Charlie's body was a soft point round, a
- 25:03Speaker 2: soft point round. Now, why does that matter? Well, I
- 25:07Speaker 2: want you to take a look at this assessment. Misfit
- 25:09Speaker 2: Patriot put together a video yesterday on this subject and said, well,
- 25:12Speaker 2: this explains everything.
- 25:15Speaker 3: Watch this. Cut 12.
- 25:17Speaker 13: Okay, guys, we finally have actual new information that confirms
- 25:23Speaker 13: the type of bullet that was used to kill Charlie Kirk,
- 25:26Speaker 13: the one that was found in Tyler Robinson's rifle.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Remember, that had his DNA on it.
- 25:33Speaker 13: The rounds had his DNA on it. And the bullet
- 25:35Speaker 13: that was found in Charlie Kirk's neck was an expanding
- 25:39Speaker 13: or potentially frangible round. Now, these are the ones that
- 25:43Speaker 13: he was engraving.
- 25:44Speaker 5: I want you to look right here where my finger is.
- 25:50Speaker 13: That is without question a soft point round or an
- 25:54Speaker 13: expanding jacketed round, right? Not the exact same thing as
- 25:58Speaker 13: a frangible round, but behaves very similarly a lot of
- 26:02Speaker 13: the time. So, These are designed to expand on impact,
- 26:08Speaker 13: open up, and when they hit things like bone, they
- 26:11Speaker 13: break apart.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Seems important, doesn't it? Seems very important to get that
- 26:22Speaker 2: assessment in there. Mike Lee was in the courtroom, by
- 26:24Speaker 2: the way. The senator, the Utah Senator Mike Lee, was
- 26:27Speaker 2: in the courtroom yesterday, and here's his assessment of everything
- 26:31Speaker 2: that he witnessed in person.
- 26:32Speaker 5: Cut 13.
- 26:32Speaker 8: Watch.
- 26:34Speaker 11: I was in the courtroom today sitting next to Jack
- 26:36Speaker 11: Kosovic and just behind Erica Kirk when evidence was admitted
- 26:41Speaker 11: by Judge Graff. That evidence, the evidence admitted today, is
- 26:46Speaker 11: absolutely compelling.
- 26:47Speaker 1: It's damning.
- 26:48Speaker 11: It contains multiple confessions by the defendant, Tyler Robinson, acknowledging
- 26:54Speaker 11: not only that he killed Charlie Kirk, but acknowledging that
- 26:58Speaker 11: he did so having planned it in advance in great detail, uh,
- 27:04Speaker 11: and acknowledging at one point that he was motivated by hate.
- 27:08Speaker 11: So he admitted this on multiple occasions in multiple ways.
- 27:15Speaker 11: So it's difficult to imagine how this results in anything
- 27:21Speaker 11: other than a conviction. We will stay tuned on that front.
- 27:24Speaker 11: The prosecution has done a great job, and Judge Graff,
- 27:28Speaker 11: while being very, very thorough, made the right decision to
- 27:32Speaker 11: admit this evidence today.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Yes, he did.
- 27:35Speaker 2: And I am so grateful that this is playing out
- 27:40Speaker 2: in public, that this trial is playing. This is exactly
- 27:43Speaker 2: what Erica Kirk, the Kirk family, has requested. those cameras
- 27:47Speaker 2: inside the courtroom, seeing the evidence on screen, hearing it
- 27:50Speaker 2: for ourselves. The public really does benefit from transparency in
- 27:55Speaker 2: this case, given all of the immense intention to this
- 27:58Speaker 2: and concern about it. And this is exactly the way
- 28:02Speaker 2: these things should be handled. It's actually one of the
- 28:04Speaker 2: things that makes America great, that we can have a
- 28:06Speaker 2: functioning justice system and that we can have transparency in
- 28:09Speaker 2: the court process. You want to bring the temperature down?
- 28:12Speaker 2: You want to calm things down? You want to resolve
- 28:14Speaker 2: these things? This is a huge step towards doing that.
- 28:18Speaker 2: We've been advocating for that, and I'm glad to see
- 28:20Speaker 2: it happening here. We're not even to the trial phase yet.
- 28:22Speaker 2: We'll see if we even get there. But a lot
- 28:24Speaker 2: of news this week out of Utah. Finally, some court proceedings,
- 28:28Speaker 2: some meaningful court proceedings underway.
- 28:31Speaker 1: All right.
- 28:31Speaker 2: A lot more to get to on the program, including
- 28:33Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the state of
- 28:35Speaker 2: elections right now as we head into the midterms. We've
- 28:37Speaker 2: got a lot on our minds and also the state
- 28:39Speaker 2: of our country. With my next guest, Ned.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Ryan is going to join us in just a moment.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Can't wait to talk to him about that because he's
- 28:46Speaker 2: got a lot on that subject. All ahead on this
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- 31:12Speaker 2: Let me share something with you. My next guest coming
- 31:16Speaker 2: up in just a moment here is going to be
- 31:17Speaker 2: Ned Ryan.
- 31:18Speaker 3: We'll talk to Ned about everything he's got going on.
- 31:21Speaker 2: But Ned has just put a documentary out with a
- 31:24Speaker 2: look back at American history.
- 31:27Speaker 3: It's a really important look back, including.
- 31:30Speaker 2: A look at the way in which the left has
- 31:34Speaker 2: been plotting to destroy this great experiment in liberty. The
- 31:39Speaker 2: name of the documentary is The Threat of Liberty Keeping
- 31:42Speaker 2: Our Republic. I just want you to see a quick
- 31:44Speaker 2: clip here. including Hillsdale's Larry Arnn, describing the psychology of
- 31:49Speaker 2: the left.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Here's the clip.
- 31:52Speaker 9: So I'll try to state the argument of the progressives.
- 31:54Speaker 9: It's a very powerful argument, by the way. What they think,
- 31:56Speaker 9: and this mostly is derived from German historicist thought, 19th century,
- 32:00Speaker 9: 18th century stuff. What they say is, we live in
- 32:04Speaker 9: a context and we are shaped by that context. If
- 32:08Speaker 9: we were born in Elizabethan times in England, we'd be
- 32:11Speaker 9: one kind of thing. That same period in France or
- 32:14Speaker 9: Germany or China, different kind of thing. In America, a third,
- 32:17Speaker 9: fourth kind of thing. And so once we know that
- 32:21Speaker 9: we are shaped by our context, it means that what
- 32:24Speaker 9: we think is caused in us by external factors. But
- 32:28Speaker 9: then it's also liberating because once we know that, maybe
- 32:33Speaker 9: we could get control of the circumstances and remake the
- 32:37Speaker 9: world So that kind of thinking comes to America in
- 32:42Speaker 9: the second half of the 19th century. And they want
- 32:45Speaker 9: to make a government that can, general purpose, run everything.
- 32:49Speaker 9: Because we can make everything right. And so he's born
- 32:51Speaker 9: the administrative stage.
- 33:04Speaker 2: The documentary is called The Threat of Liberty, Keeping Our Republic.
- 33:09Speaker 2: You can view it online right now. Threatofliberty.com is the
- 33:13Speaker 2: place to see it.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Joining me now is Ned Ryan.
- 33:18Speaker 2: He's the founder and CEO of American Majority and the
- 33:20Speaker 2: executive director and producer of The Threat of Liberty. So
- 33:23Speaker 2: tell me about what you did here. This is the
- 33:26Speaker 2: 250th anniversary of the country. You put out this documentary.
- 33:29Speaker 3: I love it. I've been watching it, The Threat of Liberty.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 33:32Speaker 3: What's the point here? What are you trying to share
- 33:34Speaker 3: with people?
- 33:35Speaker 8: So we use Alexis de Tocqueville, the young French nobleman
- 33:38Speaker 8: as a backdrop, who came to the young American Republic
- 33:42Speaker 8: early 1830s, actually started a prison system and then became
- 33:46Speaker 8: fascinated by the American Republic. How is this thing working?
- 33:49Speaker 8: And actually spent nine months and traveled 7,000 miles to
- 33:52Speaker 8: observe the American Republic, how it was formed, why it
- 33:56Speaker 8: was working, and just all of these observations that he made.
- 34:01Speaker 8: And we use it as a backdrop to show, first
- 34:04Speaker 8: of all, the incredible aspects of the American Republic. But really,
- 34:09Speaker 8: we call it the threat of liberty, Vince, because there's
- 34:11Speaker 8: so many times in our history, these inflection points where
- 34:16Speaker 8: a generation at that moment is still committed to and
- 34:21Speaker 8: has an obligation to the experiment continuing. So whether it
- 34:24Speaker 8: was the beginning of In the American Revolution, we're going
- 34:27Speaker 8: to form this American republic. We're going to fight for it,
- 34:29Speaker 8: whether it's the Civil War, whether it's these moments. You
- 34:32Speaker 8: just showed the clip of, I think, the newest inflection
- 34:35Speaker 8: point with us challenging the administrative state and talking about
- 34:39Speaker 8: the great gift we've been given. But also, do we
- 34:41Speaker 8: still have that obligation to the experiment, not only to
- 34:44Speaker 8: those that came before us, but those that are coming
- 34:46Speaker 8: after us?
- 34:46Speaker 5: Yes. So.
- 34:48Speaker 2: So one of the things that stands out to me
- 34:51Speaker 2: from the documentary is you review the fact that Alexis
- 34:54Speaker 2: de Tocqueville is traveling our country and what he's witnessing,
- 34:57Speaker 2: unlike the French Revolution, he's saying there's a unique spirit
- 35:00Speaker 2: for the American Revolution. And what he detects is kind
- 35:04Speaker 2: of an obligation to your fellow man that exists throughout
- 35:08Speaker 2: our country. this sentiment towards volunteerism. There are civic organizations.
- 35:13Speaker 1: Yes.
- 35:13Speaker 2: There are, like, basically, we feel some sort of obligation
- 35:16Speaker 2: to our neighbor, and it doesn't involve the government at all.
- 35:19Speaker 2: It's entirely about just communities helping one another on a
- 35:23Speaker 2: private basis. And it made me think, as I'm watching this, Ned,
- 35:27Speaker 2: that one of the ways in which the left is
- 35:29Speaker 2: destroying the country is they're attacking those bonds. So if
- 35:34Speaker 2: we're importing millions and millions of people who don't even
- 35:37Speaker 2: share a culture or even a language, that really deteriorates
- 35:41Speaker 2: our ability to both understand each other and serve each other.
- 35:45Speaker 8: So Tocqueville made those observations against the local self-governance, which
- 35:50Speaker 8: really comes out of, and we allude to John Winthrop
- 35:53Speaker 8: and the idea of a covenant between not only our creator,
- 35:57Speaker 8: but our fellow man. And as a basis for how
- 36:00Speaker 8: the local New England townships began, in which they realize
- 36:04Speaker 8: we have this obligation to our creator. We also have
- 36:07Speaker 8: an obligation to our fellow man and the idea of
- 36:09Speaker 8: governing themselves in these townships. And that really is the
- 36:12Speaker 8: beginning of American self-governance. We talk about, you know, some
- 36:17Speaker 8: of the important aspects of the Republican white works. And
- 36:20Speaker 8: just so people understand, the founders studied the history of republics.
- 36:24Speaker 8: Republics fail. The history of republics is that they all fail.
- 36:29Speaker 8: They're very fragile things. And so the founders decided we
- 36:34Speaker 8: are going to put together a self-governing republic, first time
- 36:37Speaker 8: ever a rights-based republic existed in the world in which
- 36:39Speaker 8: the people were sovereign. But going back to some of
- 36:42Speaker 8: the things that Tocqueville observed that the founders strongly believed in,
- 36:45Speaker 8: Tocqueville observed that he thought faith and liberty would be opponents.
- 36:50Speaker 1: In this new republic, he found they were intertwined.
- 36:53Speaker 8: He realized that America's first political institution was religion. And
- 36:58Speaker 8: the founders realized that a self-governing republic only works with
- 37:02Speaker 8: virtuous people. And if you look at what John Adams
- 37:06Speaker 8: and George Washington were very adamant about this, a lot
- 37:08Speaker 8: of the founders were, but they're two of the ones
- 37:10Speaker 8: that we really highlight. Virtue comes from religion. What is
- 37:13Speaker 8: the religion that they're referring to? Well, at the time, obviously,
- 37:15Speaker 8: it's Christianity.
- 37:17Speaker 10: Right.
- 37:17Speaker 1: And so the idea being, you talk about all these.
- 37:22Speaker 8: Things that are taking place in our society that we
- 37:24Speaker 8: have to go back and understand that. why the republic
- 37:28Speaker 8: was founded, why the republic worked, and then how do
- 37:31Speaker 8: you actually get back to restoring what the founders envisioned
- 37:35Speaker 8: for this country? Because I think, again, with the administrative
- 37:37Speaker 8: state and some of these other things, we've drifted very
- 37:39Speaker 8: far away from this.
- 37:40Speaker 3: I totally agree. I think that the modern left is
- 37:43Speaker 3: trying to turn us into the Tower of Babel.
- 37:44Speaker 10: 100%.
- 37:45Speaker 2: They're like just straight up just destroying everybody, sending everybody
- 37:49Speaker 2: in every direction.
- 37:50Speaker 3: You don't even share any common language or culture.
- 37:52Speaker 2: And as a result, it deteriorates everything that made the
- 37:55Speaker 2: American founding great.
- 37:57Speaker 1: It's intentional.
- 37:58Speaker 8: And I don't think I'm saying anything that should be
- 38:00Speaker 8: too shocking to the listeners. But the American left loathes, despises,
- 38:05Speaker 8: hates the founders and the founding documents. And it began
- 38:07Speaker 8: with the progressive movement. Woodrow Wilson and the early progressives
- 38:11Speaker 8: that began the administrative state. You know, I think this
- 38:14Speaker 8: is one of the things that's not told enough in
- 38:15Speaker 8: our history. You know, everybody wants to look at the progressives.
- 38:18Speaker 8: They are for food quality and suffrage.
- 38:19Speaker 5: Great.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Awesome. No disagreements there.
- 38:22Speaker 8: How antagonistic they were towards the founders and the founders'
- 38:26Speaker 8: vision for this government, how they went out and for
- 38:29Speaker 8: the last 114 years have been doing their best to
- 38:32Speaker 8: deconstruct the machinery of the republic because the founders put
- 38:36Speaker 8: in place the machinery of the republic, separation of powers,
- 38:38Speaker 8: because they didn't trust human nature. They realized that republics
- 38:41Speaker 8: in the past failed. Because factionalism and one faction became–
- 38:47Speaker 8: overwhelmed the others and then dominated, consolidated power. Well, that's
- 38:51Speaker 8: exactly what progressives hate. They hate the separation of powers.
- 38:53Speaker 8: They actually want to consolidate power into the administrative state.
- 38:57Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 38:58Speaker 2: I know this is like– this is only glancingly related,
- 39:01Speaker 2: but I do feel like it has an impact on civilization.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Totally.
- 39:05Speaker 1: I just saw– Fundamentally, it's changed culture and society.
- 39:07Speaker 2: I just saw that– I don't know if perhaps you
- 39:11Speaker 2: saw this headline. Do you see that in England and
- 39:13Speaker 2: in Wales, the number one baby name this year is Mohammed?
- 39:17Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 39:18Speaker 3: For the third year in.
- 39:19Speaker 2: A row, Mohammed is the number one baby name in
- 39:22Speaker 2: jolly old London. Now it's London, Stan. And so they
- 39:26Speaker 2: keep naming everybody Muhammad. And I'm like, well, that's a
- 39:29Speaker 2: radical change really quickly. How can a country sustain that
- 39:32Speaker 2: much change that quickly?
- 39:33Speaker 1: You can't.
- 39:34Speaker 8: I mean, I think it was Reagan that said, you know,
- 39:36Speaker 8: freedom can be lost in a generation. And I think
- 39:38Speaker 8: we're seeing a play out in Western Europe. And we
- 39:41Speaker 8: make this point in the documentary events that I think
- 39:44Speaker 8: some of us are on autopilot. We think, oh, America
- 39:46Speaker 8: will never fail. America will never fall. Yeah, you can
- 39:49Speaker 8: lose in a generation. And it's always the current generation's
- 39:52Speaker 8: obligation to go, do we actually feel obligated to this experiment?
- 39:57Speaker 8: Do we have the political courage, which I call into
- 40:00Speaker 8: question with many Republicans today in D.C.? Do we have
- 40:03Speaker 8: the political will and courage to actually carry that thread forward?
- 40:06Speaker 8: Because it's going to be some pretty hard decisions because
- 40:09Speaker 8: of the things that we're confronting.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
- 40:12Speaker 2: OK, so again, the documentary is called Thread of Liberty.
- 40:16Speaker 2: That's threadofliberty.com for people.
- 40:18Speaker 1: To see it. So go watch it.
- 40:20Speaker 3: It's free and it's great.
- 40:21Speaker 2: And your kids will like it, too. You watch it
- 40:23Speaker 2: with the family. So, Ned, let's talk about the state
- 40:27Speaker 2: of elections this year. How do you how are you
- 40:30Speaker 2: handicapping the midterms right now as of today?
- 40:34Speaker 8: I would say if you were to make me bet
- 40:36Speaker 8: right now, we're not losing the Senate. I think when
- 40:40Speaker 8: the dust settles after November 3rd, we will still have
- 40:42Speaker 8: the Senate. Don't ask me to tell you what the
- 40:44Speaker 8: majority will look like. But I have a hard time
- 40:48Speaker 8: believing we will lose the Senate. The House, to me, obviously,
- 40:51Speaker 8: we're up against historical trends. And people make the argument
- 40:54Speaker 8: this isn't actually Trump's first term.
- 40:56Speaker 1: I get it.
- 40:58Speaker 8: Historical trends have been that the party in the White
- 41:01Speaker 8: House tends to lose dozens of seats in their first midterms.
- 41:06Speaker 8: So but on the counterpoint, then we have I think
- 41:10Speaker 8: maybe for the first time in a very long time,
- 41:13Speaker 8: we're going to have a money advantage over the left,
- 41:16Speaker 8: which is unusual for us.
- 41:18Speaker 2: We have a pretty big debt, right? The DNC is
- 41:21Speaker 2: in massive debt right now. DNC has a massive war chest.
- 41:25Speaker 8: But I want you to think even more beyond that
- 41:27Speaker 8: of Trump's putting a lot in from MAGA Inc.
- 41:31Speaker 1: I have the exact figure. I'm not going to quote it,
- 41:32Speaker 1: but it's not insignificant.
- 41:34Speaker 8: Elon Musk is coming in pretty hard.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Some of the donors I work with are coming in
- 41:38Speaker 1: pretty hard.
- 41:39Speaker 3: Wait, Elon Musk is spending in the midterms?
- 41:42Speaker 8: Yeah, he's going to come in. There are plans for
- 41:44Speaker 8: him to actually come in. And I think primarily focused
- 41:47Speaker 8: on Senate races and the House races that are in
- 41:50Speaker 8: those states.
- 41:51Speaker 1: Again, I'm not as involved in those conversations, but Elon's
- 41:53Speaker 1: coming back.
- 41:54Speaker 3: Is that through his America PAC?
- 41:56Speaker 2: Yes.
- 41:57Speaker 1: So he's coming back. MAGA Inc.
- 42:00Speaker 8: RNC has a financial advantage. NRCC is doing a great job.
- 42:04Speaker 8: The senatorial committee is doing great. So money is not
- 42:07Speaker 8: going to be an issue as it normally is for
- 42:09Speaker 8: us in midterms. We're going to have better candidates. They've
- 42:12Speaker 8: done a good job of recruiting on our side. The
- 42:15Speaker 8: left is putting up blatant socialists. So candidate quality would
- 42:20Speaker 8: be better on our side. Do I think we're going
- 42:22Speaker 8: to have a better ground game?
- 42:23Speaker 5: I do.
- 42:24Speaker 8: I think that a lot of people are starting to
- 42:26Speaker 8: embrace what we do with the absentee ballot chase, early vote.
- 42:30Speaker 8: But I think the thing that is concerning me right
- 42:33Speaker 8: now with the House is some of the dynamics where
- 42:37Speaker 8: I have been trying to beat the drum with the
- 42:39Speaker 8: West Wing, domestic, domestic, domestic, economy, economy, economy, affordability, affordability.
- 42:45Speaker 8: And I think that the Trump administration really needs to
- 42:49Speaker 8: bear down on the domestic issues between now and November 3rd.
- 42:52Speaker 8: So if you were to ask me right now, I
- 42:55Speaker 8: think we've got a legitimate shot of keeping the House.
- 42:58Speaker 8: Do I think we'll lose seats?
- 43:00Speaker 10: Probably.
- 43:01Speaker 1: But the other dynamic, too, I'll tell you, Vince, is this.
- 43:04Speaker 1: We won the redistricting wars.
- 43:06Speaker 5: Yes.
- 43:06Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw the Cook report that
- 43:08Speaker 8: pulled together all the different things, you know, dynamics. I
- 43:11Speaker 8: think we have 215 safe Republican seats. I think they're
- 43:15Speaker 8: at 209, which leaves 11 true toss up seats. I'll
- 43:20Speaker 8: take those dynamics any day.
- 43:22Speaker 5: Right.
- 43:23Speaker 8: We only need to win three of those toss ups
- 43:25Speaker 8: to keep the majority.
- 43:26Speaker 1: And victory to me, Vince, is holding the House by
- 43:28Speaker 1: one seat.
- 43:30Speaker 3: And that means you concentrate resources.
- 43:32Speaker 2: You concentrate resources in these 11 districts.
- 43:34Speaker 10: Exactly.
- 43:34Speaker 3: And that includes MAGA Inc.
- 43:36Speaker 2: what you're involved in with American Majority.
- 43:39Speaker 8: J.D.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Vance is running a lot of the fundraising for the
- 43:42Speaker 2: Trump administration.
- 43:43Speaker 10: Yes.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Phenomenal job, by the way.
- 43:45Speaker 5: Is he doing a good job?
- 43:46Speaker 1: He's doing a great job.
- 43:47Speaker 8: I would argue one of the reasons that the RNC
- 43:49Speaker 8: at least got juiced to have the financial advantage was
- 43:53Speaker 8: obviously J.D. has been the RNC finance chair for the midterms.
- 43:57Speaker 8: And I was talking with the chief of staff. I
- 44:00Speaker 8: could make a very strong argument that J.D. has done
- 44:02Speaker 8: a tremendous job and put them on this trajectory because
- 44:06Speaker 8: of all the work that he put in on the
- 44:07Speaker 8: fundraising front.
- 44:08Speaker 2: So the dynamics- And the amazing thing is like, if
- 44:12Speaker 2: the Senate and the House stay Republican, by and large,
- 44:16Speaker 2: it's not gonna be because of the incumbents and their
- 44:20Speaker 2: great track record. It's gonna be because Democrats suck and
- 44:24Speaker 2: people really do believe in the Trump agenda and they
- 44:26Speaker 2: wanna send backup.
- 44:27Speaker 8: Yeah, the thing that concerns me is there are a
- 44:30Speaker 8: lot of Republicans in D.C. that are doing their best
- 44:35Speaker 8: to somehow lose political power this fall. But I want
- 44:37Speaker 8: to give people a little perspective really quick, Vince. If
- 44:40Speaker 8: we can hold the House in 26, and again, by
- 44:42Speaker 8: one seat, that's all I want at a minimum, we
- 44:45Speaker 8: put ourselves on a really good path for 28. I mean,
- 44:47Speaker 8: one of the things I'm working on is changing the
- 44:48Speaker 8: battleground map. to take multiple states off that battleground map,
- 44:53Speaker 8: turn Arizona into Florida, Nevada into Florida, North Carolina into Florida.
- 44:56Speaker 8: That's a longer conversation, but focused on voter registration and
- 45:00Speaker 8: absentee ballot generation among mid to low propensity Republicans. If
- 45:04Speaker 8: you change the battleground map by the summer of 28,
- 45:06Speaker 8: you put ourselves on a really good path to keep
- 45:07Speaker 8: the White House.
- 45:08Speaker 1: And then it leads us to 2030.
- 45:11Speaker 8: The 2030 census, if done correctly, we continue the mass deportations,
- 45:15Speaker 8: we have a citizenship question, we remove the differential privacy algorithm,
- 45:18Speaker 8: we actually have a legitimate director of the Census Bureau.
- 45:21Speaker 8: You do all of that correctly, you could move 25
- 45:25Speaker 8: to 40 House seats and electoral votes into red states
- 45:28Speaker 8: and lead to a decade or more of Republican dominance.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Which, that's how you get back to normal, Vince. We
- 45:34Speaker 1: don't have much in.
- 45:35Speaker 8: Common with the un-American left, and so my solution is
- 45:38Speaker 8: forcing them into unconditional surrender and sending them into the
- 45:41Speaker 8: political wilderness. So maybe they ought to come to Jesus
- 45:43Speaker 8: moment and realize socialism doesn't work.
- 45:46Speaker 3: We need to stop the election rigging.
- 45:50Speaker 2: By now, if you are somehow under some sort of
- 45:53Speaker 2: delusion that the left doesn't rig elections, you have not
- 45:55Speaker 2: been paying attention at all. I mean, the way they
- 45:58Speaker 2: rig elections includes what you just laid out. They rigged
- 46:01Speaker 2: the electoral college through this fraudulence in the census, illegal
- 46:04Speaker 2: aliens populating it. They rig congressional seats in the same
- 46:08Speaker 2: exact way. They rig media coverage in order to obviously
- 46:11Speaker 2: prejudice voters when they go to the polls. They rig
- 46:14Speaker 2: the way ballots are even counted. They've got legalized ballot
- 46:17Speaker 2: harvesting in a number of these Democrat states. They're paying
- 46:20Speaker 2: voters to vote for Karen Bass in the L.A. mayoral
- 46:24Speaker 2: race on Skid Row. It's captured on video. There's so
- 46:27Speaker 2: much obvious stuff that's going on. And so, in other words,
- 46:30Speaker 2: fixing election rigging, it seems to me, is priority one.
- 46:33Speaker 2: You talk about domestic issues, Ned Ryan. This is why
- 46:36Speaker 2: we're beating Congress over the head to pass the Save
- 46:38Speaker 2: America Act, because we think priority one is getting back
- 46:42Speaker 2: to business on elections.
- 46:44Speaker 8: Well, I was very encouraged by Harmeet Dhillon's comments the
- 46:47Speaker 8: other day in which the DOJ is going to have
- 46:51Speaker 8: observers in places where they think there's very sketchy behavior.
- 46:56Speaker 1: Taking place. But you're right.
- 46:58Speaker 8: I mean, I think people should be appalled by what
- 47:00Speaker 8: took place in the mayoral race out in LA, where
- 47:02Speaker 8: they're ballot harvesting among Skid Row people. The Democrats, the left,
- 47:08Speaker 8: and by that, I mean the same thing, have decided
- 47:12Speaker 8: that they will do anything and everything to gain and
- 47:15Speaker 8: retain political power. Their idea of free and fair elections,
- 47:19Speaker 8: you know, that doesn't exist.
- 47:20Speaker 1: It's how do we actually win elections by whatever means possible.
- 47:23Speaker 8: And so I think one of the things we've got
- 47:25Speaker 8: to do is obviously, you know, the DOJ under Harmeet
- 47:28Speaker 8: has been trying to get some of these blue states
- 47:30Speaker 8: to clean their voter rolls. They are resisting it. I mean,
- 47:33Speaker 8: dirty elections, we can talk about all the other stuff
- 47:36Speaker 8: that takes place. Dirty elections start with dirty voter rolls.
- 47:38Speaker 8: And if you're not having clean voter rolls in these
- 47:40Speaker 8: states where they're sending out mail-in, you know, absentee ballots
- 47:43Speaker 8: to every person on the voter roll, Vince, you're flooding
- 47:46Speaker 8: the zone. Some of these states like Wisconsin have millions
- 47:51Speaker 8: of voters that are inactive. And of course, Democrats in
- 47:54Speaker 8: Wisconsin are trying to actually change the laws in which
- 47:57Speaker 8: they will send out an absentee ballot to every name
- 48:00Speaker 8: that's on the voter rolls.
- 48:01Speaker 1: They don't want to clean the voter rolls.
- 48:03Speaker 8: And so it's one of the things that I think
- 48:05Speaker 8: is incumbent upon the DOJ to continue down this path
- 48:08Speaker 8: of Oregon, and Washington State, and Wisconsin, all these other states,
- 48:12Speaker 8: you actually have to clean your voter rolls. If we
- 48:14Speaker 8: clean the voter rolls, I think you start to see
- 48:17Speaker 8: our elections have a lot more integrity in the results.
- 48:20Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's right.
- 48:21Speaker 2: And this is also, by the way, one of the
- 48:23Speaker 2: other features of the Safe America Act. It would purge
- 48:25Speaker 2: non-citizens at scale.
- 48:28Speaker 5: Yes.
- 48:28Speaker 2: That's little discussed, but that is a major feature of
- 48:30Speaker 2: the Safe America Act.
- 48:32Speaker 8: And the reason that I point out, and we're talking
- 48:34Speaker 8: about non-citizens, First of all, there's a lot more non-citizens
- 48:38Speaker 8: that vote in our elections that people want to admit.
- 48:40Speaker 8: There's been academic studies on it, but it does lead
- 48:43Speaker 8: to political power. I mean, this is the one of
- 48:45Speaker 8: the things where when I mentioned the 2030 census, the
- 48:47Speaker 8: mass deportations have to continue because political power based off
- 48:52Speaker 8: apportionment is one of the reasons that Democrats want mass immigration,
- 48:56Speaker 8: because guess what? In 2020, there were plenty of non-citizens
- 49:01Speaker 8: counted in the census for apportionment reasons, not only on
- 49:04Speaker 8: the House votes, House seats, electoral votes.
- 49:07Speaker 1: It was 2.7.
- 49:09Speaker 8: Trillion federal dollars were distributed based off the bogus 2020
- 49:14Speaker 8: census numbers. So there's a lot of things that take
- 49:17Speaker 8: place for political power and money based off the census.
- 49:20Speaker 8: And when you're including the non-citizens, it leads to absolutely
- 49:25Speaker 8: corrupt numbers.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also destructive to jobs and housing prices and
- 49:28Speaker 2: communities and peace. It's really disgusting, all of it. One
- 49:32Speaker 2: more headline for you this morning. Perhaps, I don't know
- 49:34Speaker 2: if you've seen this. Fellas, if you could cut to
- 49:36Speaker 2: my screen here, I've got a political report this morning
- 49:39Speaker 2: on this subject. President Trump has just ousted a bunch
- 49:42Speaker 2: of members of the bipartisan election commission ahead of the
- 49:46Speaker 2: midterms Politico reports. He just got a great Supreme Court
- 49:50Speaker 2: judgment that said, of course, the president's allowed to fire
- 49:53Speaker 2: these commission members. So he is firing them. President Trump
- 49:56Speaker 2: has ousted the remaining commissioners from a bipartisan federal agency.
- 50:01Speaker 2: charged with helping state and local officials conduct elections in
- 50:04Speaker 2: an apparent move to assert control over voting ahead of
- 50:08Speaker 2: the midterms. What a scam by Politico in their lead paragraph.
- 50:12Speaker 2: The president removed the two Democrat members of the Election
- 50:15Speaker 2: Assistance Commission on Thursday, while a Republican was allowed to resign,
- 50:19Speaker 2: according to a White House official. and three other people
- 50:22Speaker 2: familiar with the dismissals. The White House's move leaves the commission,
- 50:25Speaker 2: which was created by Congress in 2002, without any leaders
- 50:29Speaker 2: heading into the midterms. Now, Ned Ryan, is President Trump
- 50:33Speaker 2: involving himself in this because he's trying to rig the election,
- 50:36Speaker 2: or is it something else?
- 50:38Speaker 1: It's to get back to free and fair elections.
- 50:40Speaker 8: Every time I hear bipartisan, by the way, Vince, I
- 50:43Speaker 8: think a committee that is giving the false impression that
- 50:46Speaker 8: somehow it's even-handed when in fact it's probably staffed with
- 50:49Speaker 8: partisan Democrats, hard-left Democrats who are intent on pushing their
- 50:54Speaker 8: agenda and milk toast Republicans. So when everybody says bipartisan,
- 50:59Speaker 8: I immediately dismiss it as being a legitimate action trying
- 51:02Speaker 8: to get to the free and fair.
- 51:03Speaker 1: Elections that we want. So that is the goal of
- 51:06Speaker 1: the Trump administration.
- 51:07Speaker 8: And again, you're going to have the harpies and the
- 51:10Speaker 8: corporate propaganda screaming bloody murder. But again, they're just a
- 51:15Speaker 8: propaganda arm of the left. The point is to get
- 51:18Speaker 8: back to free and fair elections that the American people
- 51:21Speaker 8: writ large, by the way, both sides of the aisle
- 51:23Speaker 8: trust and say, you know what?
- 51:24Speaker 1: We might not have won this, but we know that
- 51:26Speaker 1: these elections are fair and we can abide by the results.
- 51:29Speaker 1: And that that is one thing, Vince. Again, it's one
- 51:32Speaker 1: of the basis of the republic.
- 51:34Speaker 8: Where you have transfer, you know, peaceful transfer of power,
- 51:37Speaker 8: if you can't trust the elections, it calls into question
- 51:40Speaker 8: that peaceful transfer of power.
- 51:41Speaker 1: We have to get back.
- 51:43Speaker 8: To where both sides actually trust the results and say,
- 51:46Speaker 8: you know what, we might have lost, but we can
- 51:47Speaker 8: trust the results.
- 51:48Speaker 3: Absolutely. It's a key ingredient for stability.
- 51:51Speaker 2: Anybody who's ever run a household knows that trust is
- 51:54Speaker 2: the way that you keep things calm.
- 51:57Speaker 3: OK, one more for you just on the on the
- 51:59Speaker 3: elections this year.
- 52:01Speaker 2: Graham Plattner has just been drummed out of the race
- 52:04Speaker 2: by his own party. They they put the knife to him.
- 52:08Speaker 2: I both knew for many months that he was a scumbag.
- 52:10Speaker 2: But the Democrats finally acknowledged it the moment they realized
- 52:13Speaker 2: there's no chance he was going to win this race.
- 52:15Speaker 3: So that's why they gave him the heave ho.
- 52:18Speaker 2: But interestingly, Plattner hasn't actually filed his paperwork yet, Ned.
- 52:21Speaker 2: As much as he announced it this week, he hasn't
- 52:23Speaker 2: filed his paperwork. Axios reports that he may not file
- 52:26Speaker 2: until Monday. That's the drop dead date. This is giving
- 52:31Speaker 2: Democrats a lot of heartburn that they're not even admitting
- 52:33Speaker 2: right now.
- 52:34Speaker 1: First of all, they're soulless.
- 52:37Speaker 8: The left's one moral code, if you even called that, is,
- 52:42Speaker 8: you know, they're precious as political power. Graham Plattner was
- 52:45Speaker 8: just a tool that they thought they could use to
- 52:48Speaker 8: achieve another Senate seat and.
- 52:50Speaker 1: Beat Susan Collins.
- 52:52Speaker 8: And then they realize, wait a minute, maybe this dude
- 52:54Speaker 8: with the Nazi tattoo who's got all kinds of issues
- 52:58Speaker 8: might not be the best candidate. Again, very convenient too,
- 53:00Speaker 8: by the way, Vince, that right around where they started
- 53:03Speaker 8: throwing these accusations out, Susan Collins releases a poll showing
- 53:07Speaker 8: her up by four. I remind people in 2020, she
- 53:09Speaker 8: was down by astronomical figures.
- 53:12Speaker 1: And then ends up winning.
- 53:13Speaker 8: So if she's up by four in the summer, the
- 53:15Speaker 8: odds of her winning are really, really good.
- 53:18Speaker 1: But Democrats in.
- 53:21Speaker 8: DC, and again, I would say mostly across this country,
- 53:25Speaker 8: have become soulless creatures, twisted, corrupt creatures whose only pursuit
- 53:30Speaker 8: is political power. But I'll make this last point too. Again,
- 53:34Speaker 8: I'm cracking up. The reason I was cracking up, the
- 53:36Speaker 8: most undemocratic thing in American politics today is, is a
- 53:42Speaker 8: Democratic primary. Because it's kind of like, well, we know
- 53:46Speaker 8: the people voted for this guy, but we're not really
- 53:48Speaker 8: happy with the results. So a small group of us
- 53:50Speaker 8: are going to decide who the actual candidate is. So
- 53:52Speaker 8: screw that whole idea of representative democracy and voting. We'll
- 53:56Speaker 8: take it from here and try and get a better
- 53:57Speaker 8: candidate that will help us get that political power we want.
- 54:00Speaker 1: But it cracks me up.
- 54:01Speaker 8: Just the hypocrisy and the soulless nature that is taking
- 54:06Speaker 8: place inside the Democratic power.
- 54:07Speaker 1: But I hope they tear themselves to shreds.
- 54:10Speaker 8: I hope the hard left fully takes over from this D.C.
- 54:14Speaker 1: Establishment. I hope there's a bloody civil war. I hope they.
- 54:20Speaker 8: Are involved in a civil war that actually weakens them
- 54:22Speaker 8: going into the midterm. I hope somehow we can pour
- 54:26Speaker 8: jet fuel on this whole situation to really acerbate the
- 54:30Speaker 8: differences between the left and the dying grasps of the D.C.
- 54:34Speaker 1: Establishment.
- 54:35Speaker 2: Planner on Monday, he kamikazed the party on that or yesterday,
- 54:39Speaker 2: two days ago now in that statement. He straight up
- 54:41Speaker 2: was like, it's the establishment. They destroyed me. They decided
- 54:44Speaker 2: they pulled out the rug from under me.
- 54:46Speaker 3: They gave me no resources. They cut me off entirely.
- 54:49Speaker 3: They're the bad guys. All right, good. Let them fight.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it.
- 54:53Speaker 8: Just I hope you die a death of a thousand cuts,
- 54:56Speaker 8: political cuts, just so we're very clear on this figuratively speaking.
- 54:59Speaker 3: We're not the left. They're the assassins.
- 55:01Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the violent ones.
- 55:03Speaker 8: But I think you're looking at something that's going to
- 55:06Speaker 8: accelerate in its rhetoric and the hatred between these two
- 55:12Speaker 8: factions inside the Democratic Party because they realize, I mean,
- 55:15Speaker 8: the left's on the rise. I think in some ways
- 55:18Speaker 8: we'll see them fully take over the Democratic Party. the
- 55:20Speaker 8: DC establishment holding on, grasping to that power still. But that's, again,
- 55:27Speaker 8: one of those dynamics where you asked me about the midterms.
- 55:29Speaker 8: I think this is kind of one of those things
- 55:31Speaker 8: where even if some of the dynamics that I hope
- 55:33Speaker 8: are in our favor in regards to narrative and economy
- 55:35Speaker 8: and all that, never underestimate the left's ability to light
- 55:38Speaker 8: themselves on fire.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Literally, in some cases. Ned, thank you very much, brother.
- 55:43Speaker 1: Thanks, Vince. I appreciate it.
- 55:44Speaker 3: That's Ned with American Majority.
- 55:46Speaker 2: That guy's busting his ass for the country and appreciate
- 55:49Speaker 2: his assessment of what to expect going into the midterms
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