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#2514 - Cameron Hanes · The Joe Rogan Experience

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  Speaker 1: Check it out the Joe Regan Experience, Train My Day.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day, Cameronians.
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  Speaker 1: We can use headphones or no, we don't need them. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You have to wear your sweet hat to fuck it up.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, got it. But we've got an American flag,
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  Speaker 1: We've got a skull, we've got camo. What the fuck
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  Speaker 1: else do you want? Are you American or not? Oh nice, dude,
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  Speaker 1: you're all in for fiftieth anniversary.
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  Speaker 3: It's also the only socks I brought on this trip somehow,
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  Speaker 3: so I wear them every day.
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  Speaker 1: Now you only brought one pair or one style?
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  Speaker 3: Now one pair of socks and no underwear.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, I've done that before. We have to wash
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  Speaker 1: your socks in the sink with shampoo, with the hotel shampoo,
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  Speaker 1: and then wear them when they're wet.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like I went on a run here. It
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  Speaker 3: is muggy. Oh yeah, babe, what my ass on?
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  Speaker 1: That's the fear of this weekend at the UFC. Because
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  Speaker 1: it's East Coast, it gets very muggy. Yeah, for sure
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  Speaker 1: in d C. So these guys are all working out
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  Speaker 1: outside right now. I saw video of aim as a
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  Speaker 1: hobby working out outside, and iliotoporia is working out outside,
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  Speaker 1: and you know you have to feel that that heavy,
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  Speaker 1: heavy air. It changes. Oh yeah, man. I remember when
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid, I went to the Olympic Training
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  Speaker 1: Center in Colorado Springs.
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  Speaker 3: I see those thunderstorms.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, Oh yeah, we're fucked. Fuck. There is a canopy
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  Speaker 1: that's over the cage. They put a canopy over the cage.
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  Speaker 3: Lightning hits that, that's not good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if it hits the canopy, I think we're okay.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm more worried about terrorist tack
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  Speaker 1: than i am lightning. No, that's true, but I probably
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  Speaker 1: should be more worried about lightning. I actually have friends
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  Speaker 1: that have been hit by light We do remy hit
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  Speaker 1: by lightning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So I know, I don't know anybody's been hit by
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  Speaker 1: a terrorist attack by lighting. Was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had crazy storms here.
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  Speaker 1: You know you're playing golf.
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  Speaker 4: No, but I was outside, thank you. I thought the
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  Speaker 4: storm was over and I was out on my balcony
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, wow, this is cool.
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  Speaker 1: One hit.
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  Speaker 4: I'm five hundred feet in the sky, I'm already up there.
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  Speaker 4: And then it hit and I started hearing sizzling near me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, holy shit, I gotta get inside like electricity.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so scary. That's such a fucked
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  Speaker 1: up way to go. Do you ever see that one
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  Speaker 1: video where the guy is walking down the street and
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  Speaker 1: he gets hit by lightning. He wakes up, walks down
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  Speaker 1: the street a little bit further, he's recovering and he
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  Speaker 1: gets hit again. Dude got hit by lightning twice, and like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's time laps or well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how long he was out for because it's
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  Speaker 1: like one of those ring cams. It catches him. This
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  Speaker 1: guy got fucking cooked twice.
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  Speaker 3: You know you're having a bad day.
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  Speaker 1: I forget what Remy said happened to him after he
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  Speaker 1: got hit, but I remember his hearing was fucked up
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  Speaker 1: for a long time or something something like that.
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  Speaker 3: We uh, I was we do the mountains back home,
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  Speaker 3: like run him and there's we're up on Diamond Peek
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  Speaker 3: Me and Tanner last year and a storm, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like the weather report, like having some clouds
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. It wasn't supposed to be thunderstorms, but you
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  Speaker 3: could hear kind of growling and you're like, God, is
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  Speaker 3: that coming this way? And it doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 3: that close. I mean I think I think lightning can
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  Speaker 3: hit from ten miles away. Really, yes, it can go that,
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  Speaker 3: It can go sideways. So anyway, if you see that building,
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  Speaker 3: you should get off the top of a mountain, right. Well,
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  Speaker 3: me and Tanner we're up there and we're still wanting
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  Speaker 3: to get the summit and then bomb off. Well we're
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  Speaker 3: up there and he goes, he goes dad, he goes watch,
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  Speaker 3: and he had we had trekking poles and he had
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  Speaker 3: him like this and they're they were like ticking, like
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  Speaker 3: from electric electricity was in his truking poles. Then we
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  Speaker 3: I said, let's get the fuck off this thing. And
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  Speaker 3: so we bombed off. And there's these kids down that
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  Speaker 3: were like, they said, should we go up? And I
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  Speaker 3: said I'd wait a little bit. And the girl's hair
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  Speaker 3: was standing up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Yeah, so crazy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is not that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So they this guy died in Florida last year and
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  Speaker 5: what they call blue sky lightning, what, yeah, can jumped
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  Speaker 5: from several miles away. Well, they standing on the beach
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  Speaker 5: there was a blue sky above storms.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Year, and I think it can go.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I looked it up after that because I was like,
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  Speaker 3: we I need to know. I'm in the mountains all
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 1: His death undeless. There's a grimmer mind. Florida led the
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  Speaker 1: US in both lightning fatalities twelve and strikes per square
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  Speaker 1: mile seventy six. Holy shit. By the way, you see
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  Speaker 1: that guy in Florida that he was running from the
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  Speaker 1: cops and he got killed by an alligator. No, you
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  Speaker 1: see that one? Huhuh dude, it's bodycam footage. The cops
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  Speaker 1: got the gun out and he's he's like stop, stop stopping.
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  Speaker 1: The guy's running, he's going in the water, and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden.
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  Speaker 3: Boom, Like, right, I'd really get shot.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather get shot rather get shopping killed by a
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  Speaker 1: fucking dinosaur. Oh my god, shot you get the bullet's
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  Speaker 1: gonna hurt, Like fuck, You're gonna be in shock, You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna realize you're bleeding out. You're gonna have to say
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  Speaker 1: I wish I was a better person. Who'm gonna miss
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  Speaker 1: my family. But that fucking alleg is gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: while to kill you. It's gonna roll with you, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna drag you under the water. You're gonna realize you
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  Speaker 1: can't get free. You're gonna try to poke its size.
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  Speaker 1: It's not gonna work.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a miserable existence till it's over.
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  Speaker 1: You see that one video of a dude who got
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  Speaker 1: attacked by an alligator lost his arm, so he bit
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  Speaker 1: his fucking arm off, and he made his way back home.
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  Speaker 1: So he they're they're like talking to him, like right
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  Speaker 1: when he got out of the swamp, he got one arm,
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  Speaker 1: and he looked like, there's not a chance in hell
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  Speaker 1: he was sober during any of this experience. He looked
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  Speaker 1: like he had been messed up since the fucking twelfth grade.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this dude, Yeah, this is the dude.
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  Speaker 1: He just fucking lost his stump. Yeah, he wanted for
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  Speaker 1: three fucking days with one arm.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, how do you not bleed out? Well,
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  Speaker 1: he said, on my right hand side. So I went
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  Speaker 1: to swim. She got she got my forearm, so I
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  Speaker 1: grabbed her like this and like she's trying to roll,
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  Speaker 1: but she snapped her head so so my arm went
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  Speaker 1: backwards like this completely. He says he fought for his life.
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  Speaker 3: She drugg me on.
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  Speaker 1: So fortant. He says he fought for his life. I
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  Speaker 1: can imagine them in an editing bay showed do that again.
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  Speaker 1: Is that good? I know he says he fought for
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  Speaker 1: his life.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got that part with the no arm. We
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  Speaker 3: I went ahead and assumed.
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  Speaker 1: That he fucking wandered through alligator and snake infested swamp
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  Speaker 1: for three fucking days.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for telling us what we need to be believing
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  Speaker 3: here that.
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  Speaker 1: You know when I went alligator hunting out there a
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  Speaker 1: few years ago. You know that alligator that we seanlitz
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  Speaker 1: in the front, Bro, They're everywhere. Yeah, if you ever
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  Speaker 1: want to come, it's really fun. I know you don't
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  Speaker 1: do much hunting outside of bow hunting, but they need
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  Speaker 1: to be killed. They're they're vastly over popular.
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  Speaker 3: But you can't do a bow. You can, but it's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: well that's like everything.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty sketchy. But this this you know that's killed
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  Speaker 1: alligators with a bow in Florida. Yeah, you just got
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  Speaker 1: to catch them in the right spot. You got to
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  Speaker 1: basically hit them, like right behind the head. I think
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  Speaker 1: you'd probably hit them with a fixed blade.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure or something. There's just you gotta brain
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  Speaker 3: them Yeah, so there's like that bump back there. Then
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  Speaker 3: it's like halfway in between the eye and the bump
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  Speaker 3: something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So you want to be like twenty yards. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: gotta be fucking exit right in there for sure.
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  Speaker 3: The good thing about that, if you fuck up and
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  Speaker 3: it just kind of ricochet, it's gonna be fine, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's like, literally it's not making
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  Speaker 3: If you go for the lungs and miss hit it
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  Speaker 3: in the stomach, that's not good. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: pretty sick and miserable death.
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  Speaker 1: But it probably still live. Those fucking things are such monsters.
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  Speaker 1: They're such monsters.
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  Speaker 3: I was saying, you know, we've killed bear upper Kip
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  Speaker 3: killed a bear up at the rivets with three legs. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like, how.
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  Speaker 1: One of them will eat the other one's leg youn't
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  Speaker 1: bite their fucking legs?
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  Speaker 3: Like, how do you?
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  Speaker 1: You know? How do you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to get antibiotics for like a hangnail.
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  Speaker 1: I think our whole biome is probably all fucked up
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  Speaker 1: from washing it all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I mean it completely makes sense, right, So, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: animals don't seem to get a whole lot of infections.
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  Speaker 1: Like we do, unless they're farm animals, right or like occasionally,
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  Speaker 1: well it happens all the time in the rut, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like when you're dressing an animal, you find all these
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  Speaker 1: holes in the side of it, whether they're like pussy.
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  Speaker 1: I remember one time one of the elk that we
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  Speaker 1: shot at t hone had his back leg was just
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  Speaker 1: filled with puss. Like the whole back it was all
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  Speaker 1: puss because he had gotten stabbed.
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  Speaker 3: It's usually in that back because usually they turn because
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  Speaker 3: they know they're getting their ass kicked, and so it's
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  Speaker 3: in their hind quarter. It's like the domino bowl gets
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  Speaker 3: a jab in before they go.
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  Speaker 1: And you've seen those to hone bowls, those eleven hundred
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  Speaker 1: pound fuckers. Imagine one of those stabbing you in the head.
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  Speaker 3: And also if you see antlers there that are broke
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  Speaker 3: because they're so heavy, uh huh, Like there's that bone
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  Speaker 3: is so thick for their hours. If a bull's break,
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  Speaker 3: imagine the force required to break that.
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  Speaker 1: And imagine that going right up your ass.
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  Speaker 3: God, for my camera guy, that'd be a dream. But
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  Speaker 3: for most of us.
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  Speaker 1: Now they find them, you know, with these holes in them,
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  Speaker 1: Like when when you shoot them and you find out
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  Speaker 1: like what they've been through. Like, no, wonder why they
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  Speaker 1: barely moved when they get hit with an arrow. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they probably didn't even know. Like when two bulls are
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  Speaker 1: fighting and then one of them gets hit with an arrow,
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  Speaker 1: they barely react.
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  Speaker 3: No, that'd be like what that was that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Crazy? They're just so just locked into.
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  Speaker 3: War, especially if you like getting between their ribs and
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  Speaker 3: don't hit anything, just like just like that bull would
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  Speaker 3: be like oh wait, what what was that? Nothing and
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  Speaker 3: feeling woozy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, did you find that video? See if you
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  Speaker 1: can find the video of the guy with the bodycam
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  Speaker 1: footage getting killed by the alligator.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to see it.
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  Speaker 1: You see it a little bit though. I just think
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  Speaker 1: it's exciting.
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  Speaker 3: It's just you love watching chaos.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why put the headphones on there? See
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  Speaker 1: what I like the music? Okay, so here it is.
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  Speaker 1: The cops got his gun out. Oh this isn't a
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  Speaker 1: very good Yeah. See the cops got his gun out
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  Speaker 1: and he's like trying to think of what to do,
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  Speaker 1: and this dude's getting jacked.
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  Speaker 3: Oh there goes the alligator to ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh did you see that line of that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it up a little bit so you can see it.
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  Speaker 1: So the dude's trying to swim away and look at
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  Speaker 1: the alligator. Boom, that's a wrap. Son.
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  Speaker 3: Did he put his hands up here?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he just so back
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  Speaker 1: it up a little bit more so you see the
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  Speaker 1: guy swimming away. What's that?
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  Speaker 4: It's a different version.
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  Speaker 1: The same lady narrating that that's simmed towards him.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not good of his arm. I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was a full on attack.
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  Speaker 1: It was a full on attack, like gus if what
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  Speaker 1: a halfway attack. It's a fucking dinosaur. It was a
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  Speaker 1: bad story in Florida a few years back where a
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  Speaker 1: guy was running from the cops and then it was
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  Speaker 1: a high speed chase, gets to a bridge, stops the car,
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  Speaker 1: throws it in park, jumps off the bridge. Boom, alligator
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  Speaker 1: gets them literally like landed right on a fucking alligator.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the reality of the water. All the fresh
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  Speaker 1: water in Florida is filled with alligators. They have to
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: check disney Land all the time. For Disney World, they
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  Speaker 1: have to check it all the time. Remember a little
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  Speaker 1: kid got killed there a few years ago. Measure, you
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  Speaker 1: take your kid to fucking Disney World and it gets
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  Speaker 1: killed by a dinosaur.
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  Speaker 3: Rough well, and also it's like you know how I
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: don't know you have dogs, but are there around when
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  Speaker 3: you're eating and like something falls on the ground, they're
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  Speaker 3: always checking the ground. Well, that's what alligators do in
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  Speaker 3: the water. They're just sitting there, just chilling out. They're
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  Speaker 3: here a little splash or like, oh, like a dog,
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  Speaker 3: was that a crumb hitting the floor of the dinner table,
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  Speaker 3: So it is over there, and they'll just eat whatever
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  Speaker 3: hit the water.
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  Speaker 1: Especially if something seems like it's struggling. Yeah, well I
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  Speaker 1: got you opportunists.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're just chilling, just waiting for shit to
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  Speaker 3: hit the water, which is that's what fishing is too.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you see that the fly is hatching, you
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  Speaker 3: try to match it, try to put it on there,
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  Speaker 3: and like they're like, okay, got one to hit the water.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, alligators are masters of taking advantage of opportunity
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  Speaker 3: and everyone's while some comes off a bridge and hey,
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  Speaker 3: big meal.
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  Speaker 1: Really shocking how many of them there are in the Everglad.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I went, I guess it was
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  Speaker 1: three years ago, and when we were there, it's like
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  Speaker 1: everywhere you look, you have to look for an alligator.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's like nothing I've ever seen. I thought it'd
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  Speaker 1: be hard to find them. I thought, like, we go
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  Speaker 1: out there, you know, you look around, You probably glass
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  Speaker 1: a little, see eyeballs pop up. No, they're fucking over
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  Speaker 1: the water.
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  Speaker 3: How many would you see?
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  Speaker 1: We saw fifteen twenty? Yeah, maybe more chilling, maybe thirty.
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  Speaker 1: You see like some movement on the water, and then
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  Speaker 1: they dunk under and you're in the fucking swamp. Man.
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  Speaker 1: It's sketchy as shit.
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  Speaker 3: The hole never done it.
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  Speaker 1: It's very weird. It's very weird because you're like this
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  Speaker 1: is a messy, like the feeling that you get there,
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  Speaker 1: like oh, this is infested, like you're infested by dinosaurs.
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  Speaker 1: And then meanwhile you go an hour and a half later,
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  Speaker 1: you're in Miami, have a steak, drinking a nice Pinot noir.
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  Speaker 1: You think you're in civilization. You're you're fucking half a
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  Speaker 1: day's drive from monsters, an infested jungle filled with monsters.
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  Speaker 3: And imagine if you weren't in a boat, Like what
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  Speaker 3: if what if you were just somehow something happened in
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  Speaker 3: the boat, Oh you fucked Yeah, what would you do
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  Speaker 3: if like the boat sank out there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we weren't in a boat, Okay, we drove out.
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  Speaker 1: We were with guides, and we drove out in trucks.
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  Speaker 1: And they know, like where the lake areas are, where
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  Speaker 1: the you know, it's very dense out there, it's very thick.
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  Speaker 1: It's just hot and muggy, and these fuckers just boo.
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  Speaker 1: You see him pop up, You see the eyeballs pop up,
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  Speaker 1: you see some motion, but you fucking see him everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: And then you look around at how big the Everglades is,
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  Speaker 1: and you go, how many of them are out here?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's not like we found the honey spot, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's like the whole Everglades
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  Speaker 1: and there. When I was a kid, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: lived down there in Florida when I was eleven years old.
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  Speaker 1: From eleven to thirteen, I lived in Gainesville. And there's
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  Speaker 1: alligators back then, but they were endangered and so you
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: weren't allowed to kill them, and so they would kill
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: people's dogs and shit. I remember this lady in my neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Her dog got jacked. She was walking her dog by
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  Speaker 1: Lake Alice and it just snatched her dog and took
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: it away. This is like the late seventies and we
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: were feeding the marshmallows. So you go to the dock
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  Speaker 1: and you throw marshmallows and the alligators would come up
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  Speaker 1: and eat the marshmallows, and it was, you know, it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, it's kind of cool that they're there.
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  Speaker 1: She out a little bit. But they weren't dangerous cut
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  Speaker 1: to all these years later now because no one hunted
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: them because they basically were making shoes out of them
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: in the day and they almost hunted them to extinction.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: And they should probably start that again. We need to
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: bring alligation shoes like back in like the seventies, Like
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: that was the cool shoes. Like in the pool halls
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: where I used to play pool, like the old guys
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: would talk about how a guy was really dressed up.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: He had his gators on, he looked good, he had
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: a nice suit, he had his gators on. His gators
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: like alligator shoes. Yeah, gator boots seem to be a
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: different thing because it kind of almost makes sense because
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: like like you get boots that are made out of
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: like snake skin and ostrich and like that's kind of
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a cowboy boot thing. But alligator dress shoes. Yeah, you
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: got your gators right, very hard to get polish it
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: nice black.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Bro. I gotta apologize to Rick Flair. He got scammed.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: So some person reached out and said that they were
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: representing this podcast and they were going to have that
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: he was going to come on the podcast. I think
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Tim Dillon this happened with him too. It didn't happen
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: with him where they got him. But they send you
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: an email saying that they're going to have you come
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: on a podcast, but they need your bank information.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll pay you. Sometimes it's like three thousand bucks
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: because I've got those two.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And what it really is is they're just going to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: empty your bank account. And it's just a scam. So
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: if you get an email like that for me, it's
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: not real. Sorry, Rick Flair. So, Rick Flair, I don't
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: know if he lost his money. But Tim Dillon, they
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: tried to get him on Amy Polar Show, So it's
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: that's the scam. The scam was they've reached out to
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: he talked about it on his podcast. They've reached the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: scammer reached out said I'm representing the Amy Polar Show.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We would love to have you on And he was like,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that's doesn't seem like that would be a good thing
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: for Amy Poehler. I don't think I'm a good guessed.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It was like he's like, I don't think this is real.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Then it says, you know, we need your bank account information,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and so many people just like don't think about it,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: or they're boomers.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Or well it they make it seem legit because I
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: know Pat McAfee. I got an email from them about
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: coming on the show, and I'd been kind of communicating
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: with some of those guys before, and so I'm like maybe,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it's like a big deal like
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: ESPN and Pat McAfee. He's like, to me, he reminds
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: me of you. He just kind of does what says
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: whatever he wants does. He's free if the bosses say whatever,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: he's like, fuck off. I just love that unfiltered, like
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: true thoughts.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: He's a guy who's got fucking money that says fuck you.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I love.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: It's just it's beautiful. So I mean, I celebrate that's
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: that's a you know, First Amendment in his glory right there.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And he seems like a genuine good Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know him, but it's.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know him either, but when you hear a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: guy talk enough.
• 18:00
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• 18:02
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• 18:05
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• 18:08
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• 18:13
  Speaker 3: just a great guy. But he said no, it's not
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: not legit. But they had me because it was like
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody asked me like, hey, you know, they said, well,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: they said, can you do anything about it? Unfortunately I can't. Like,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: there's nothing you could do other than tell people it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a scam. I don't want to tell you how I
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: get guests. I don't want to give up the process.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: But I have a guy, and I have this guy
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: reach out to people, and you know, I don't want
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to talk too much about it because I don't want
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: people to imitate that and pretend that that's how they
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: do it. But if you get any like out here, Yeah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: if you get an email asking for your bank account information,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it's not me now, and it's probably not Anna Ferris
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: or Amy Poehler or Tim Dillon or any of those
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: other people. It's all bullshit now, just scumbacks out there.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, if you say you have some elk meat, you'll
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: share that might be real.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Nope, I'll share with friends and family. That's it. Giving
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it out to weirdos. But uh, you're bringing some bear meat.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I know you dude, you're I said you're in trouble.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I know. We got got a lot of notes.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: We got notes, I got, I got ship we're going
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: to discuss today Like.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I had a scientist on yesterday. He had less notes.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Less I know. I'm I'm ready. Well we had some first.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Of all, before we go any further. What's going on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: with your tooth? Well, you got a gold tooth. I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, well it was. It's kind of a joke.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: But I've been like for years obsessed with like perfect teeth, right.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And that's like Adam Green Cheese, always busting your balls.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: And you know, I did like the the white strips
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and all us other shit, and like I always cared
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: about what just probably cared too much. So now I
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: don't care what I look like. But what changed? I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: don't know. I've just like been playing the game too long.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Now it's just like I'm just done and the game's
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: not over. Unfortunately, even though I'm saying I don't want
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: to play anymore, game still goes on. So it's like
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I'm still part of it. But anyway, I was getting this. Okay,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: long story short, I had I broke this in high school,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: so I had a fake two since high school. And
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: uh yeah, this is like long story kissing this girl
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: basketball hitting back ahead broke the tooth anyway.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It broke the teeth on her teeth.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she had pieces of teeth in her lip.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. Oh yeah yeah it was.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Uh Jack Devere did that. But anyway, we uh so
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I got it fixed, got a few different iterations of it,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: finally found one that looked good. Well, I go in there.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I hadn't been in the dentist in forever because I
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: just would hate going and they said, oh, you got
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: a cavity under that whatever composite is what it was called.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, cool. So we got to take
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: it off, fix a cavity. Then you get a whole
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: nother one and I'm like whatever. So I go back
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: in there next next appointment, they take it off, no cavity,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: but now I just have this like whittled down regular tooth,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: just like a like a post of a tooth.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So because they remove the cavity.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Because they there was no cavity. No cavity Jesus thought
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: on the X ray there was, so they had the
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: anyway that cap or the composite's gone. So they said, well,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you need to go and match the color of your
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: teeth for your new fight fake tooth in spring and
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: in Springfield swing by this Springfield whatever they do there
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: for for dentistry. So I go in there and they
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: said the girl there goes, hey, my husband Nate makes
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: some really cool gold teeth. He does a really good job.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Do you want a gold one? And I was like wait,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: and so she's like, we'll do a white one too,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: but a gold one might just be fun. And then
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm like, yeah, it'd be fine. So I told Trace,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do it just a day or two.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: So this has been months.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Now you're gonna keep it. I don't know. I kind
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of like it. I gotta like it too, I kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of like it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: It's like everybody look at you know, everybody's got regular teeth.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Nobody's got gold teeth.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Not anymore. It was a thing back in the day.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I remember Mike Tyson had a gold tooth for a while.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: This is like my savings account because I figured that
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose everything because I'm such a fuck up.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: But I'll still have this.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I can still that sucker out and you can buy
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a cheeseburger. Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: If I get in a bind, right, it's like, hey,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: well I got this.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I have one crown. I have one fake toothback here.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I cracked one of my mowers. I had a root
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: canal and then it cra like, so then they had
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to put like a crown on it, and then it cracked,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and so now I got another one. Could I got
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a little piece of it missing. I think I'm gonna
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: get a gold one. Nice got a goal on right here? Now.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You inspired me. Also, it's in the back, so you
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: won't see it all the time until I yeah, until
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I give you a big cheese. Yeah, well gone.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: When you're cracking up, you always do a big smile. Yeah,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: so that'll one when people see it, that'll be fun.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Fortunately, I laugh a lot. I know, a happy life.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah you do. You're you're crushing it. Lately, I was
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: just keep it, just same old stuff, right, just keep
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I can't believe. I look at your guests and it's
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: just like non stop, dude. It's like it's people see
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: like all your success. You think most people would be like, Okay,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I'm good, I'll you foot off the gas. You don't know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you keep I mean, you work your ass on.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Well. You very rarely get an opportunity in life to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: do anything like what I can do, and very few
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: human beings get this opportunity. And I feel insanely fortunate
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and also very responsible, like I'm responsible for this whole thing.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I have to keep it rolling. I know. People are
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: addicted to it. They love it. They want the variety.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: They want scientists, they want guys like you, they want
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: athletes and fighters, they want all this shit. They want
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to hear all these differ from people talk all these
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: different perspectives, and it's a huge obligation, you know, And
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like connected to all these people. I know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't talk to them all the time. I don't
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: know see it, but I feel it, I know it,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm dedicated. So I just keep my foot on
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the gas. I never I never say, oh, I can't
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: believe i have to do this. Oh, I can't believe
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm to show up. I just yeah. I always try
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to reset every day. Go God, I'm so lucky. It's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: so fortunate. And then you know, when you have that opportunity,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's a terrible tragedy, a travesty to not
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: capitalize on it, to not like make the most out
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of it, because I know that it's like very few
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: human beings in the world. Well, I mean, how many
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: people have ever had the number one podcast. It's always
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: gone like back and forth. I've had it for like
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: six years now, six or seven, might be seven years now,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and it's like I'm not I'm not keeping my foot
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: off the gas. I do exactly what I'm doing. I'm
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: gonna do it my best. I'm gonna keep doing it
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: until the fucking wheels fall off.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: That's like people have said, like with bow hunting and stuff,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: like if you you know, you work your ass off
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: to get this place where you're respected, right, and then
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be people that want your position, and like
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: with your attitude, my attitude too is like fucking come
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: get it. Yeah, get it, come try to take it,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: because I remember I'm working my ass off. Still.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We were hanging out somewhere and you said one of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the coldest things to this dude. This dude was we're
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: all just fucking around. I really even forget who it
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: was because it didn't matter. And he said, uh yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And after that, I'm gonna challenge you to a race,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and you go, good luck with that. It's still so cold.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You go, yeah, like you even remotely taken seriously, it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: was like a five year old saying they're gonna kick
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: my ass. Yeah, okay, good luck with that. Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I mean you get you get confident when it's something.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You do, like further down the line than anybody. Yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And so if you're going to take my spot, right,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's been a grind dude forty years.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: The whole take in the spot thing is so stupid
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: because everybody's on their own little journey and you could
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: look at it in terms of I'm going to take
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that guy's spot and maybe that's your motivation, and that's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: cool and all that, but there's a negative attached to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that motivation. If you don't have an actual personal beef
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: with someone and you hate them just because they're in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a position that you wish you are, you're wasting energy.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I know this sounds like very hippie, but it's true,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Like you're that energy. Instead, should be celebrating that there's
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: people like that out in the world that do inspire
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you and are out there pushing themselves to like extreme
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: limits just and excelling at whatever. Whatever it's fucking playing
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: guitar or doing stand up comedy. You should look at
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: those people like, Wow, what are they doing that I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: can do to make myself more successful or better? Or
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: where can I get to a point? How can I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: get to a point where I'm like them? But most
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: people don't do that. Most people like fuck that guy.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That guy fucking sucks. This sucks and fucking he's a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: pussy and he's a disc and he's using steroids and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he's fucking lying about how many miles he runs. And
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it's there's always gonna be people like that. And I'm
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: telling my message to the haters. I was a hater
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I was one hundred percent hater,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent like all the other people. Like when
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I was fighting, everybody else was a pussy. There were
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: all pussies unless they were wording my weight division. They
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: were win't in my weight division that I could celebrate it.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: But everybody in my weight division was a pussy. That
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: guy's I'm gonna fuck that guy up. He's got nothing.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I could never celebrate people, even like national champions people,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I couldn't celebrate them. Right. It's a waste. It's a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: waste of energy, and you get more energy out of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: looking at what they do well and analyzing it and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: being inspired by it. It's a hard struggle because your
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: ego wants you to compare yourself to them and find
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: flaws in them. You know, fuck that guy, fuck this,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Fuck that. It's a waste of energy. You have to
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: be selfish with your energy. Your energy is very critical.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: It's everything in life. Everything you do in life is
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: dependent upon you having energy, and for you to waste
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: your energy in some stupid ego driven direction just because
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you're too weak to recognize like, oh this guy can
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: kick my ass. Oh, this guy could shoot a bow
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: further than me. Oh, this guy runs way farther than
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I can run. Oh, this guy's way better at playing
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: guitar than me. What the fuck can I do to
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: get where he's at? Yeah, you gotta just that's a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It's a trap because not only does it take away energy,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it takes away progress. It takes away energy from you
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: investing in you being better in the future. It's bad
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: all around. Yeah, there's no good to it at all.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: No, I agree with that, And it's like that that
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: energy is a resource that we have to protect. I
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: think that when you talk about like you talk about
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: all the outliers that you you have this conversation with
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: or sit across the table from you, and I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: your attitude and how you look at things like in
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that lens that makes people want to come on. Like
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: you said, you listened to all these people, and people
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: want to hear what they have to say. People want
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: to hear what they have to say to you because
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you have a way of drawing out more information in
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a different way, because your attitude is so pure. I think,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: like even if you didn't believe what you said, it
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: was still if you just said, like, I want to
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: be positive, but your questions were all negative, like in
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: tone or like confrontational in tone. People wouldn't want to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: be on here like they want to be on here.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Now you being positive and looking at things like how
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: can I get better? How can I grow? How can
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: we all learn and get better from this? That's the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: lens that you put the information that comes out through
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: these microphones out into the world, which means people are
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: attracted to you. People are attracted to the guests you have,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: People are attracted to the show. And so yeah, that
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: energy we even though even if we don't admit it,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: we're attracted to it, you know what I mean. You
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: seek it out. And I know when i'm I like
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: to hear people paint a picture of something that gives
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: me hope. I don't want to hear about how fucked
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: up everything is all the time. I want hope. How
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: can I have hope? Because hope gives me purpose? And I'm like, Okay,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I can do this, I can I get to work
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and this will this will pay off.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: So I think it's like it's more complicated than we think.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: But there's a reason why you're number one. Have been
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: number one, And it's your attitude and it's it's how
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: you speak to people.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Also, I got in really early, right, So I got
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in at like two thousand and nine, and there was
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: hardly anybody doing it back then, so you could you
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: could Also, I wasn't as famous back then, so you
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: could do it for a long time before anybody noticed
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: you were doing it. So you could get good at it, so.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: You could hone your craft.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You didn't have a bunch of comments that you had
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to sift through. You didn't have that. You just did it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: If you started now, maybe you wouldn't be number one,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Because there's there's so many parts there's I mean, how
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: many podcasts are there now? Yeah, like what's the number.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Five million?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Which was like seven or eight million.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: It probably keeps growing every week. So because everybody thinks
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: they can do it, because everybody can talk well.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: And the people starting now they might be you down
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the road. Oh yeah, for sure, there might be some
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: you know, well, they'll be them incredible conversationalist that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: They'll be them. There'll be a different thing than me,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: but they'll be amazing at it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: But you had because you had this insight or you know,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: you saw Tom Green or whoever it was that like, hell,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: maybe I could do that. You started this process of
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: this decades of honing your craft to where it is
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: now and now you've been on top for six seven years, right,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and it's just because of all those reps that you did.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It's it's no different than anything. We always talk.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: About everything reps.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like you want to get good to something,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: keep fail, keep doing it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Fail is reps, pools, reps, martial arts are reps. It's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: all reps. It's all experience, and it's all like being
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like super focused on what you're trying to do, whatever
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, like I even think of you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I love Sean Ryan and he has an incredible podcast,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: but I get I get why this is happening. He's
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: pretty down, kind of on a lot right now, just
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: with government, with Israel, with Epstein, with all that which
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: is by design almost they want us to be hopeless.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: they do want us hopeless because we can be controlled.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: But Sean, his podcast lately has taken more. I don't
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: want to say dark because it's more real, but it's
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: like it's darker. So I just think that attracts less
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: people in a different type of person than yours. You
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: have every reason to be dark about things, and you
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: are sometimes, but that's not the theme of you.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I think these it's like, first of all, people
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: that aren't comedians, they're they're limited in what they can
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: talk about, in the way they can talk about things.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You know, being a comedian is there's a little bit
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: bit of a safety, little freedom.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: You can always like the joke you're around, get a little,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: get a little, you can write it off a little bit.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: It's also there's that's real in terms of like another
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: layer of conversation, Like there's a layer of conversation that
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: is commonly known as talking shit. And talking shit is
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a thing that you do where you're with your boys
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and you say things that you don't really mean because
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they're funny and you make each other laugh. You talk
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: about how many dicks you sucked last night. You know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: why is your mouth also hard? You know, like you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: fuck around, you say things you're silly. You know, you
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: talk about Oh, you know it's hard doing all this meth.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't you're not really doing meth right,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: there's you're you're not real having gay sex. You're fucking around. Yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: And when you can't fuck around, there's a whole realm
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: of the conversation that's missing.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And there's a whole like like get out of jail pass,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: like let's have fun, let's loosen up a little here,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and then where you can't loosen up you're serious.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Right, and then where does the conversation go back to
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the serious part? Which changes it?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: It's also the serious stuff is what gets engagement. Yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And that's a little bit of a trap where if
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you only focus on the bad of the world. And
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it's not saying you should ignore the bat of the world,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you certainly shouldn't. But if you only focus on the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: bat of the world, it's kind of a trap yecause
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it'll fuck your head up too. That's swimming in negativity
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: That's what I see, Sean. That's a feeling I've got
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: with Sean lately. Whereas with the differences with you, there's
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: a reset. There's always this reset back to good. The
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: message is good, yeah, I think, and I don't think
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: you're I don't I don't think you that's not by design,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: that's just who you are.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's on it's just uh, that's how I think. Yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you can only dwell on negativity so much. Most of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: your day is not negative in fact, Yeah, it's there's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: things that you need to be aware of and need
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to be prepare for them.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: And the problem is is, no, it's not. But our
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: voices are oftentimes negative. So it's easy if like, if
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: you get in that trap where you're listening to negative
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and you're thinking negative, there's a lot of negative, dude.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Like knowing that, you know, I can go down a
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: negative rabbit hole pretty easy. I try to avoid waiting
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: in that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Well. Sometimes it's like you just get fed up, like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: where the fuck are these Epstein files? Who the fuck
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: is this? Why is this retacted? Where is it? Who
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the fuck killed jfk? Like, come out with it. What
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the fuck who fucking killed Charlie Kirk? For real? Like
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: what is that? Why is that fucking story so clouded
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: in mystery? And why do they pave over the fucking
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: ground right after the shooting? What the fuck is going
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: on there?
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: See? Now you're making me in a bad miss that's.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But that it's easy to do. It's easy to do it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: You get locked up and you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: See, do you see my notes? Look at my two
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: on the very top.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Does it stay positive? Be nice? And what was that
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: other one saying you have terrible hand? Be positive? Oh,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: be nice to be positive, but your handwright's terrible. It
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: should be a doctor.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: But no, I have to remind myself, like because I
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: if you start mentioning those things that you just did,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: it was hard, dude, I will fucking lose my ship
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: because I'm so pissed.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I know, and it should be. And we were all pissed.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: We're all you know, we all thought that, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: all that stuff was going to be released right after
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the election. It's gonna we're gonna drain the swamp and
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: find all the pedophiles.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: And well, the first term was more like that. That's
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: what gave me hope for this term. The first term
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: there was some draining the swamp going on, I felt.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Then we had the Biden disaster, and now the second
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: term has been I don't even know what this is.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where it is.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Well, it would have been a whole lot different. For
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: first of all if we didn't bomb iron I feel
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: like we bombed them the first time, we were good.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: The second time was like even the first time, I
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: then when they were saying like, this is it, the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: escalation's over, We're going to work this out, like oh yeah,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And the second time when we bombed them, I was like,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: oh fucking great now. And the most people don't want it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: That's the real problem. Most people in the country don't
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: want it now. Look, I'm no fucking foreign policy expert.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on over there, but I
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: do know that all the people I know that really
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: support Israel above everything else, they're fucking super happy about it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, but all the people I know that
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: are like America First, and or people that are like
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: no New Wars, that really thought that we're going to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: change things and this is all just for money. We're
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: not going to sacrifice soldiers for fucking money. Those people
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: were all upset. I don't know really what's going on though,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. And I really wish I understood Iranian
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: politics more and the run to run in military structure,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: because it seems like that's super fucking complicated. Like they've
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: been preparing to be attacked like this forever and so
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: they have like all these layers of control, Like when
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: this guy gets taken out, new guys are like ready
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to fill their spot. And then when we're negotiating with
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a new guy, Israel kills them. It's like the fuck
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: is going on? And then what happened yesterday? They captured
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like twenty oil tankers.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Oh did they I didn't even see that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some I don't know, it might be bullshit.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I just read on the toilet in one of the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: rare weak moments where I traveled to X. Yeah, it's boy.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I've been so healthy lately last few months, just staying
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: off of fucking Instagram, really staying off of Twitter, just
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: not reading anything. Yeah, not anything, but Instagram started funneling
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: me schizophrenics. Oh, I don't know how I followed the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: one schizophrenic. My name is Dolores. I am the real
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: granddaughter of JFK. Hey, the gold that's in the basement
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: is all mine. Trying to stuff shit inside my vagina.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: They wake me up in the middle of the night
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: like crazy people. Yeah, not just one, but like a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: whole fucking series of them. And I started getting those
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and uh again, I might
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: spend like ten fifteen minutes, but it's all schizophrenic people
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: like I gotta get off of this.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: There's no reason it's interesting. It's that's what it's crazy,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: that's what it gets you hooked.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I got this one lady. She is a she was
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: a hooker, and she's a crackhead, and she thinks everyone's
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a man like, so she'll show up photos of all
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: these different people. That's a fucking man. She's just fucking
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: out to lunch. One guy thinks he's the rightful president
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: of the United States, and he wears like it's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: dirty old suit and you look in his eyes. He's
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: out there. The dude's gone. He lives in a completely
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: different dimension than we do. And he's on Instagram.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I start watching like sometimes street fights.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, I watch a lot of those.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of those out there, and or the joke,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: the pranks or the jokes or pets. It's like it's cool,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: and then it's just like, but they it's just a trap.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: It just keeps you there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And then an hour's gone and you're like, what did
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I do for an hour? It's just terrible for you.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: But since I've been really good about it, it's just
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: so much healthy. When I take like full days, like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: days off, I feel so much better. And I'm like,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: remember when we were in Hawaii. We went to Hawaii
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: a few years back and we went bow hunting and
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: for access to here on the NI and I broke
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: my phone. I don't know if you remember this, Yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I do my phone just start calling people. I'd be like, OK,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: this is crazy, I hang up and start calling a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: new person.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Hang up.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So I had to get a new phone and it
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: took like three days, and it was like three the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: happiest days of my life. Yeah, and I'm like, oh,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I should just get rid of my phone. I was
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: thinking that, but I was like, oh, I can't wait
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: till my phone gets there.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Well, there's stuff where it's really handy. Is taking pictures
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: of cool stop oh yeah yeah yeah and capturing those memories.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: That's yeah. It's and if you have a question, yeah,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I love it for because I've always had a question
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: about something. I love that Siri. Now you could just
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: press Siri and ask it a question like how many
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: minutes are in a month, and it'll just tell you
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like right, like, oh, like you'd be driving on the car,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you have a question, just press a button and it
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: gives you the answer. Yeah, fucking nuts.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: How many times do you have a question and you're
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: just like, oh, probably never figure that out? Now, no questions.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Literally instantaneous, you know, And you know, I'll use perplexity
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: all throughout the day to just ask you questions because
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just driving around or I'm sitting at home and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder how that happened, and just now,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: you know, like instantaneously. But the dealing with all the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: people stuff, that's that's where I checked out. I'm like,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested in that. I don't like. It's like
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: if you get a bowl of soup and there's little
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: pieces of meat, but most of the stupid is shit,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: all right, I would recommend not eating that soup. And
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that's what social media is. Like, It's like I get
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: some meat out of it here and there, I get
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: some interesting stories about science and some new discovery from
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: the James Webb telescope, Like whoa, this is fucking cool,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and it'll send me down a nice rabbit hole where
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like studying things and getting excited about things, and
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: then I'll just deal with some fucking kooks and and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: crazy people and shiptheads and grifters and people are that
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: are mad that people are white, and people that are
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: mad that people are black, and like, oh fucking Christ.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It's exhausting too, It's exhausting.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just eating soup with ship in it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: It's just like it's not worth it. Yeah, speaking of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: what she brought in, some of that bear and grap
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: some of that son and so a lot of people
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: are of the opinion that black bear is not an
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: edible meat, and that is that is incorrect. People can't
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: hear you unless they're on that microphone. Give me some
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: so also, no one can hear that either. You gotta
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: get to the microphone, put that thing down and have
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: a seat.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: So do you know who Casey Brooks is.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I've heard the name.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: So he killed the world record elk.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that giant one. That thing is crazy.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: He does. This is like super hot stuff. Oh, here's
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: what it's called. What you need to know about Chile
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: and whatever?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: See ears? Everything you know you need to know about? Well,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it's all warned. I know, maybe on the but mighty
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: chilian chili. Yeah, okay, so he took chili.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you put that on like when you're cooking steaks, Jamie.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's one. Thank you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Look at that?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Oh sweet, oh look at that? Fucking yeah. Man, nuts,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: that thing is literally nuts. What was the score on that?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: It was like three eighty six or something.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: No for eighty six or eighty six.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, close to five hundred.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow the smell strong, does it? Oh my god? Yeah?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So these are the chili.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Oh so this is a Yeah, he said you don't
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: need much.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: It says did say four eighty. It says sprinkle this
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: ship on everything.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, this is cool. Yeah so I and also,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: do you know his son is a really good elk color?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't know.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I know it makes calls.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't usually mess around with that.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I learned how to dose do these just last year
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and his bow broke. Learn how to make a female
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: because I had a little one that I blow on.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: So I never learned how to use a red Yeah,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the mouth read. I definitely don't know how to make
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: an elk set with the tube. I'm fucking terrible.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Well let me see that night real quick.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: My.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the old pack out skinner for Montana knife.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: But here's the good stuff right here. So we got
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: some of this. Tell me what you think of this.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I've had it the last time. He brought us from
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: No, this is for company. This White's up in Portland.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: And this is Ronnie. Ronnie's the man dude.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Portland, Oregon has a good wild game.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's more like gresh but it's so good.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was good.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Tell me what you think of that?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: That, thank you, Ronnie.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: And then this is uh no trickenosis right, chicken osis free?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: This is have you ever tested yourself for chick and osis?
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: See if you have it? You might already have you
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: might have it and ignored it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: So the jerky is so good. And then also like
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: this says whites on it right here, Whites Country meats.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: So we got sausage.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Oh you made breakfast sausage?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so good.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: And then we've got some rendered bear fat right here.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Brought you that so you can cook with that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It's dark? Yeah, why is it so dark?
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, Clay Nukem gave me something, did he? Yeah?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, have you ever used it?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Cooked steaks with it?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: It's great for searing steaks, you know, just like even
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: beef twel but it gives it a differ from flavor.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Sure, definitely, So he did it. It's like and also
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: like the bear in the spring, their fat is a
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: little different, so it's it just reacts differently for making
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: the pepperoni and rendering the fat. It just reacts a
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: little differently because they've just come out of hibernation up there.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: This is one of the big bear I just killed.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And yeah, so it's just perfect timing for I guess
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: rendering fat and making sausage.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I was watching those videos that Jen was making from
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: bear Camp.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Was she smoked that bear for like twenty four hours? Yeah?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: So good look insane.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like so good. They're like, she's like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a gourmet chef now with bear. Yeah.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: And then they had the meat church guy up there
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: this last week. Yeah, and so they were like, you
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: know bear meat when you put a whole back ham
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: on the trigger. So she she let it soak marinate
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: for four days, right, And I saw people saying oh,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: if you did shoe leather for four days, it'd be good.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what it was four days and
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: then twenty hours of a low cook on the trigger.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Best meat you've ever had. Its like incredible. That's bear.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: And you know there's like people talk about the settlers
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: back in the day, they would eat bear and just
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: kill deer for hides. It's amazing to make clothing because
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: bear was superior meat. So people have fallen into this
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: trap of like believing that bear meat isn't good and
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: it's amazing.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it's because of Yogi. Yeah, Yogi fucked us probably, Yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Yogi and the one that tells you not to start fires.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Who's that guy, Smoky Smoky Smoky the bear Yogi? Yeah
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: they fucked us, Yeah they did. Then Disney, Disney fucked us.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You know, if it wasn't for those anthropomorphisations of animals
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: where they turned them into sweet, you know, beautiful creatures
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: that talk to you, Yeah, we would have a completely
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: different idea of animals. And they have much more realistic
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: idea of animals for sure, which I think most hunters have.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: You love them, you respect them, but they all have
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to be managed. I said, Whitney Cummings a video that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: they got in Santa Monica the other day of a
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: mountain lion in someone's backyard. Big fucker just laying in
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the grass in this dude's backyard in Santa Monica. Man.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you know warn anymore.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: But I carry too much. People get annoyed.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It was good though.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: That's a Jalipino cheddar. How's it taste? You taste it?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: The first one I had was Valipeno chedd. Yeah, it's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: fucking great. It was really good. So good. Yeah, and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I know what people are saying, Oh, you can make anything.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Look at that. That's the cat in the backyard, man,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: that fucking nuts man with his eyes. Yeah, fuck you man,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: fuck you Yeah, it's uh. I. Meanwhile, they build a
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: stupid bridge for them, and it's a way over budget.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: It's over one hundred million dollars now for the stupid
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: fucking bridge so they can cross. We have to make
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: sure that the monsters can get across the highway safety trust.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I am of a completely different opinion. I say, put
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: one of those fucking big ass grills on your car,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Like half of my Land cruise. Yeah, and let's hope
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: we get a few of them. Yeah, so they don't
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: kill people's dogs. Look it was right.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: There, that's fourteenth.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: It's just knocked on them for that is bananas. Look
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: where it is, like, look how dense. Look how dense
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the housing is there. There's a mountain lion right there.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: And they think a mountain liin is going to go
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: find this bridge.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Well, they probably will eventually find the bridge, but there's
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: a bunch of retards. It'll still make their way across
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the highway and they're supposed to get hit. That's that's nature. Yeah,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: let's figure it out. Yeah, figure it out or die. Yeah,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: figure it out or die. There's too many of them.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: They they're so unrealistic about their mountain lion numbers. Yeah,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: there's way too many of them. They're all over California
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: because they don't manage them. That's how we talked.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about that last time, and it's like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: I just wonder what is you know, what's the goal?
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Because now you know, I wore this shirt today because
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: now public Land is again back in the crosshairs. I
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: don't know if you saw that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is going on?
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: This Mike League guy. Yeah, the same guy, same fucking
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: guy from he's trying to like this is Utah guy, right,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: the Utah guy. So right now is like there's this
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: bill that was going to be introduced is like talking
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: about wildfires essentially. But it's like it's what he's done
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: is he's tied in this public land piece to it,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: like they always do. There's always these other provisions tied
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: into with all these bills, right right, and you don't
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: really know what you're agreeing to or what you're not.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: But he put in this roadless area section because there's
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: four hundred or forty five million acres of roadless area
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: that he wants access to. Basically, they're not saying this
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: or saying for some other reason. I think, oh, here's
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: what they said. We have so many acres of roadless
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: area that to fight wildfires, we need roads. Okay, they
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: don't care about fighting wildfires. They care about resource extraction
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: or development.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Right, maybe development, but development's a tough sell and a
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: lot of those in this areas. But what's not they
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: tried with this?
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Remember remember the affordable housing, like, oh, just the area
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: that was supposedly affordable housing, which like years ago, I
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: went back and talked to Jason Chafis. He was he
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: was a representative there in Utah, and I went back
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: there and spoke to him. And at that time, it
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: was about surplus acreage. So there's three million surplus acres
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: nobody's using.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Someone told me that has something to do with the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Mormon religion, that the Mormon religion has a philosophy about
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: selling land that's very different than our philosophy.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm and I think if there's.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Any reality to that that that the Mormons almost have
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: like a mandate to try to sell land. I don't
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: know if that makes any sense. This is not my thoughts.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Someone told me this, and I was like, wait what
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And I don't think I ever looked it up, right.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: That I do that too all the time. I'm like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I need to look that up, and that I never do,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: and then I never know anything more. But yeah, So
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I went back talk to Jason. At that time it
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: was surplus acreage. Then this time it was affordable housing.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Now this time is wild wildfire fighting, which if you
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: get into the weeds on fighting wildfires, it's there's The
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: National Force Service already has ten billion dollars of road
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: work they need to do on roads that are failing
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: right now. So they're saying, you're going to add more
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: roads to the ten billion dollars worth of work that
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: the roads already need maintenance on. Don't think so what
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: they're going to do is and then also if you
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: make roads, the stats say eighty five to ninety percent
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: of fires are started within a half mile of a road,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: So it's not the wilderness areas that are in danger
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: that we need to figure out how to fight fires
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: back there. That's hardly any fires back there. It's always
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: about the roads we've created that we can't maintain. That's
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: where the fires are starting right.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Right, because it's usually people.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: It's human cause ninety percent of the time is heightning.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Is that's only like a small percentage of fires that
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: can be fought here.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: It is. Some Utah politicians who are members of the
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: LDS Mormon Church have pushed proposals to sell or transfer
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: federal public lands, but this is a political movement, not
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: an official LDS Church program, and other Mormon groups openly
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: oppose it. So Utah's see more disinformation. So we try
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: to feed me. Yeah, and I kind of helped spread it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Utah's heavily dominated by federal land. Forty two percent of
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the state is managed by the Bureau of Land Management alone,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: even more under other federal agencies. Because so much so
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: much of Utah's federal fights over whether retain, transfer, or
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: sell some of that land is especially intense there.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this next part is about Mike Lee.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Which Conservative Utah Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee have
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: proposed budget or legislative plans that would make millions of
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: acres of western public land eligible for sale, arguing it
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: would boost housing or local economies. The housing thing, it's like, hey, man,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: fuck you, you're not putting houses in the mountains. I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: don't believe you. Well, I think most likely what you're
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: doing is there's natural gas out there or minerals out
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: there or something.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: It's a I mean, they don't care about. First of all,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: they'd have to build infrastructure out there in the mountains,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: which you know, water power. That's not going to happen.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: What is this Wyoming thing? Says that Wyoming case would
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: have been the first time a registered National historic site
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: was sold into private ownership, which is why it drew attention.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: What are they referring to though a National Historic Site
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: among Oregon Trail could end up in the hands of
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: private owners at the request of members of the Church
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ Latter day Saints. Oh so the church
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: tried to purchase public land.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So down to that next one that says LDS teachings
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: require strong stewardship and explicitly advocate preserving and protecting public lands.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: So okay, that goes in. So it's just politicians like
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: what he's doing. And I think he's like beholden to Trump.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Trump's like his Aaron boy for this public land thing,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: because Trump doesn't give a fuck about public land, but.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: His son does. This is what doesn't make any sense, Like,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: is don j does.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: He listen to anybody?
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think to me about psychedelics?
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Well that okay, we'll talk to him about this thing.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Is that it again with sneaky ruleless rule amendment? Yea, yeah,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: well maybe if I see him this weekend. Well I
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: will see him this weekend, but maybe I'll tell him
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: about that. But I don't think there.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Was a there was a sentence in there that I
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: just saw. It says nine percent right here right in
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: the middle of ninety ninety percent of Americans opposed repealing
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: the ruleless rule. Okay, so why they work for us,
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: isn't it? Is that right? So the reason why I
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: got to this is because you talked about the mountain lions.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: It's like, why don't they listen to people like the public.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: The public would say, yeah, we probably need to hunt
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: mountain lions, keep a manager.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think the public of California would. I'm opposed
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to that post the ballot box biology.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: No, No, me too.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: They got wolves into Colorado.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: But I'm just wondering, like, with this this roadless rule,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: they didn't ask the public anything, and of the public
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: oppose it.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's way that I think. I would say, way
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: more people oppose that than oppose any kind of hunting thing.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good with Okay, So on your point, then
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: I want biologists making the decision on hunting. I don't
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: want politicians making the decision on land use. So that's
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: that's all I'm That's all I'm saying. It's like, let's
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: have experts in the field decide these things. It's like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: who is the expert in the field who decided the
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: White House needs a ballroom.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Uh me, I called in no.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But it's like, how are these decisions being made? Like
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: this roadless rule? This was like a last minute add
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: on that the public did not get a chance to
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: vote on.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: How is that?
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: How is that? Okay?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: No, it's not okay. It's it's super fucking sneaky. And
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I think all of our position should be like your
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: T shirt the Teddy Roosevelt position. Yeah, not one acre.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Like we have an amazing system here, we do. The
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: public land system in the United States is completely unique
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. It's very different. And
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the fact that you can go out there and that
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: is your land. If you're a citizen of the United
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: States of America, public land is your land, and you
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: have access to incredible wilderness and beautiful places. And if
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you've got the endurance and the ability to go deep
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: in there, you could go to places where there's no
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: fucking people and it's unbelievably pristine wilderness and it's owned
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: by the entire country. And we got to keep it
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: that way. We can't. We can't let that slippery slope
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: get get into play. As soon as they start giving
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: away some of it or selling away some of it.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: They'll fucking keep going, not one acre once.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Once you lose something, you don't get it back ever.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: And this especially with this public land, Like at this
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: time when we all came together, it was outdoorsmen in
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: all regards. It was hunting, hiking, fishing, whoever, recreators like
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: what it's like, people who just love and appreciate public lands.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: We all came together, shot it down and the public
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: sentiment was vicious, right, and they couldn't ignore it. We
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: need the same thing now because at this time, I
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: know we did so much. Everybody came together. But when
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: they do these they wear us down with these these
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: last minute deals and add on these things, because it's
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: like how many things can you keep fighting and fighting
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: and fighting And you're like, I thought we already got this,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: didn't we solve this already? And now it's back.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Well. I think that's one of the reasons why they
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: keep so many fucking balls in the air at the
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: same time, is because you can't fight at all. You know.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, do you really care about the Epstein files
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: or do you care about UFO disclosure? Yeah? I know
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the UAPs. We're gonna have a big meeting gun Monday.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a big release on Wednesday.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: So I think they took to me. It seems pretty
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: nefarious that they're like, say, oh, we got all these
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: fucking dipshits worried about this roadless rule. Okay, we can
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: distract some of them with aliens. Got an alien stuff,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: all right, Okay, oh we could. We could distract some
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: of them with fighting. We got the White House fight
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: coming up. Okay, that's and now all of a sudden,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: now it's way quieter because they've distracted some of these
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: core core groups with this other bullshit, right, and it's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: the bread and circus thing. And like, I kind of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: agree with Bryce Mitchell who said this that it's not
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: for the White House to be putting on sporting events.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: That's not we hire the government to run our country,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: not entertain us.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: True. Yeah, no, I look, I don't like it because
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I think they should be fighting indoors always. I think
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: world championship fights at the highest level should be fought
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: in a controlled environment. That said, it's gonna be sick,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be I'm gonna watch I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: have two Like people think, oh Rogan's negative. I got
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: a Nope. I'm not negative, but I'm not positive either.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I don't if it was me, if I was running
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: the UFC, I would never run the UFC. But if
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I was running the UFC, I would have never wanted
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to do it. I would have said, we can't do it.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: They have to be in a controlled environment. We can't
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: have a World championship fight. We can't have someone win
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: or lose because they're outside and it's muggy. Yeah, that
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. It's gonna affect the grappling.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be like hot oil wrestling. Everyone's gonna be
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: sweaty as far. Yeah, it's gonna be completely different than
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: and also your endurance is gonna be less.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: No submission's going probably gonna happen.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Well maybe, but also you can get under a neck
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: way quicker.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Oh right, light your arm through there.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could cinch up a rear naked choke with
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: someone sweaty, you get get it right under the chin,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: it slides in there. But most grapplers would not prefer that.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Most grapplers would prefer an air conditioned arena like normal.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: It should be fucking seventy two degrees just like it
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: always is. You know, it should be air conditioned like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: it always is.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: But even that, they're controlling the hands because you know,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: like if your top or bottom, like big part is
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: like the risk control, like if you're sweaty, that's top.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I mean changes in the old days, dudes used to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: lie down in a bathtub filled with baby oil and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: then they would wash it off and so then they
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: would uh, you know, get warmed up, and then when
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: they would start sweating, the baby oil would come out
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: of their pores, because it's like when you soaking baby
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: oil for hours. I'm not accused of any individuals doing this,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: but I know for a fact it happened, and guys
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: would be completely greased up and you could wipe them
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: down with a towel, it wouldn't matter. I mean, the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: grease is everywhere. It's in their fucking pores. And as
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: soon as they start sweating, you try to get a
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: hold of this, it's like trying to hold onto a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: fucking salmon in the middle of the water. They just
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: slip right out of your fingers.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Well, that happens too if you eat McDonald's all the time.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: That's kind of.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: They should try that maybe that'll work.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I think that affects your performance more. But the sweat
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: is going to be a big issue. The outside, the bugs,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big issue.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, or forecast to say we're around two o'clock rain,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: three o'clock thunderstorms, seven o'clock rain, it looks great.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Oh by eight o'clock it's only showers. Don't be a pussy,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: just showers. Yeah, maybe they'll cancel it. Look, I think
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: if they canceled it and moved it indoors, it'd be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: better for everybody. I don't like it. I think the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: idea was like they want the octagon, the White House
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: behind it. Yeah, for image and everything like that. It's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be dope. The card is sick. It's a fucking
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: amazing card. The car. I mean it's only seven fights
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and all of them are bangers. From the opening one
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: with Steve Garcia and Diego Lopez bam right off the gate.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: It's like Bowden Nickel and Kyle Darcas bam right out
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: the gate. I mean, it's it's gonna be a sick,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: fucking card. The card's amazing.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: That does look incredible.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: That's the lightning catcher that they put over there. Yeah,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be nuts. It's gonna be nuts if it happens.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: But if it rains, like crazy, you know, but I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: mean everybody will love it if it rains. All the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: people who hate it, you know, those megafucks, you're ruined
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: in our country. Main. I know it's a very divided time.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Oh it's it's nuts.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But like I said, my concern is for the athletes. Uh.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: A fighter's career is very short. A loss is devastating,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: and to not have perfect conditions to fight in I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: think it's crazy. But it's also going to be sick.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: It's like being there is going to be nuts, and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: maybe it's worth it. I don't know, we'll find out.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Well, you got to hand it to Dana for going
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: big like he always does.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know they always does.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: He was at the Sphere in Vegas, right, It's like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't that was out of the box. But it was amazing.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was sick. That was a one time only thing.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: That was so much money. But this is a one
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: time only things supposedly too. But apparently Trump doesn't want
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: to take the octagon down. He wants to leave it up.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: Really I don't know, man, I think it would be
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: great have guys like you know coming and train at
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: the White House for a couple of weeks.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: That'd be the next gimmick.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just old thing's chaos. Anyway, it's a crazy time.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I mean what Biden could have a giant LBGT flag
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: in front of the White House and have trans people
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: pulling their breasts out, remember that, you know, like they
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: had Big Pride Day, they have a big Pride flag
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: in front of the White House.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Like I'll take I'll take this over that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: It's like all of it is silly. Yeah, it's also
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: that should have nothing to do with the White House.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: This should have nothing to do with the White House.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: But you know, and then there's a lawsuit right now.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: We're trying to suit to keep to stop all the way.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: They'll probably lose. Yeah, I don't I'm not a lawyer.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would imagine they're not going
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: to win.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a huge fighting fan UFC fan. You know,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Dana White is like an icon. I love all the fighters.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: I just love everything about it. It's a I just
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I kind of agree with Bryce Mitchell's take
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: on it, which you can get in trouble with the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Green with him because he has a lot of takes.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: But uh, but on this one, I kind of get it.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I don't blame the fighters at
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: all for jumping to this opportunity. No, Yeah, the whole
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: world is gonna watch.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be probably the most watched sporting event maybe
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: in history. I mean, uh, it's on Paramount, so to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: be on CBS as well, right, so it'll be probably avail.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Is it on CBS? Yes, So it's on CBS as well,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: so to be available to everybody, and then all the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: haters are gonna watch it too, for sure, gonna want
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: to talk shit. Yeah, so it'll probably be covered on
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Seeing and what a disaster it was, and they already
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: talked a lot about how I'm not into it, But
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I have to be honest about what I'm into and
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm not into. I can't just agree with something
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: if I don't agree with it, I'll be respectful, I'll
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm obviously a huge fan of the UFC,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: and it's always an honor to work for them, and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I love it, but I don't like it, but I'll still. Yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: When I'm there, I'm like, oh this is and maybe
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: after itsself, I'm like they were right, or maybe it'll
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: be like, oh I fucking rained. It was what a
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: shit show? Yeah, it was lightning that canceled the fights.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: It was a huge disaster for CBS.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: It's live sports. It's like you never know.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they pull the entire audience out and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: just have the guys fight in the cage under the canopy,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: now I'm in.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like an apex style.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Now I like it. I like it. No crowd, just us,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: just me, DC and Annex.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: That'd be pretty fine.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Now I like it. Now I like it. And you know,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: we're protected by the rain, but everybody else isn't, so
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: they all have to leave. Fuck yeah, because I think
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be also a lot of like look at me.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: People are gonna dress up nice forehead and like because
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: they know they're gonna be on television. And then it's
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: you know, I get it, but it's really for me,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: it's about the fights. There's there's gigantic fights on that car.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: They justin gagee Ilio Taporia fight. I am very interested
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: in that fight. I'm very interested in that fight. I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: really wish it was like at the T Mobile or
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden or whatever. But who cares. I I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: that's a fight I have a lot of questions about
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: and you see that fight out.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, Justin's quite a bit bigger, but Ili is
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: so skilled.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Bro, he is. I watched a whole I watched his
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: entire career last night. So there was a the UFC
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: put out a video about Ilia saying is Ilia Taporia
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: the Goat? And it goes from his first fight uh
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: in the UFC to his last victory. And you watch
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: every single fight of his career, and you watch him
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: get better over time, and you know, it gets deeper
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: into his career and then you see his last three
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: fights and you're like, good lord, Yeah he was awesome
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: when he first entered the UFC, but he just kept
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: getting better. So the use of the law fights the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: first fight that goes to a decision, you know, and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and then you watch the progression he starts ko and people.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: His last three k over the biggest stars.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: There's some of the greatest of all time. Max, Yeah,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Charlo Overa Charles one of the greatest of all times.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Max Holloway one of the greatest of all times. And
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: then Alexander Volkanowski, the greatest featherweight of all time, like
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: fucking crazy, knocked them out, knocked all three of them out.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest resumes of all time. CBS
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: won't air UFC White House event. Viewers would need Paramount
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Plus to watch what happened? Did they back out of it? Oh,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: they were not televise it. That means you, I wonder if,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: like Paramount White decided cited the plan to tell America's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: story during the show as the reason CBS would not
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: be involved. What the plan to tell America's story?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: We don't want to talk about America's story on CBS. No,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: because there's only X number of fights and it starts
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: from the first one. White said, we start at the
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: beginning of time, and like the Mexican Independence Date fight,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have the story of America from the first
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: fight to the last. So no, they'll all be on Paramount.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna start out with European settlers coming over
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and giving everyone smallpox, and then you're gonna see all
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the Indians die, and then we're gonna go, oh, look,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: at all these buffalo because there's no one there to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: kill them. And then we're gonna see people come across
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: on wagon trains and kill each other. It should be fun.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a good story.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a very accurate story with how the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: United States started. It'll start from back when we fucked
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: up Mexico and like, what was that eighteen sixty one
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: to get Texas? No, what year did they know? It
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: was like eighteen twenty one. Wasn't it like that that
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Mexico owned Texas. We'll start from the beginning. We'll go
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: all the way to buying Alaska for like fifty bucks.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people love it. Why wouldn't be good, it'd be good.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: It'd be great.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a I don't know, it's it's gonna be
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: a spectacle for sure. I'll be tuning in.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll be there.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be You're at the White House all
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: the time now I've been.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: There a couple of times. Yeah, it's weird. It's very weird.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: It's also very weird because as much as people hate
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Trump and hate his decisions and hate what he's doing
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: and hate how he talks, and my experiences with him
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: personally have always been fun. Unfortunately, Yeah, unfortunately for everybody else.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Like you know, if he likes you and you're on
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: his good side, he's a fun guy to be around.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: He says a lot of fun shit. The fucking man
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: loves America. He genuinely does. He really does. Like he
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: wants to make the White House look better. He wants
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: to build this ballroom because he wants like he has
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: good intentions in terms of America. It's just there is
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: not a single fucking person that's ever taken the job
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: of the President of the United States that's loved by everybody. Yeah,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: but his the issues that he he's having right now
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: is a lot of the stuff that is going on
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: in this country is contrary to what people voted for.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: And that's what people are upset about. The war.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: The war specifically that I don't you know, we voted
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: for protecting the border.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Uh huh when they did that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a or American manufacturing, protecting America's interests like
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: with trade, with just protecting people's jobs so we have
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: a way to work and provide for our family America. First,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: that was what that sounded good to me, and it
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: feels like this isn't any of that, Like, it feels
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: like even his administration. At first, I was just like,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: oh fuck, these are some this is good. But it
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: feels like if you go against him in any way,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: you're fucking gone.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Well, it's that for sure. And then it's also you
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: know the amount of political pressure you know you have
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: to make right. So you've got the pharmaceutical drug companies
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: that are trying to squeeze this in there, and then
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: the oil company is trying to squeeze that, and the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: military is trying to squeeze this, and there's a lot
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: of compromises that have to be made. And that's where
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: things get dark, because there's people that come in with
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: these ideas that we're going to fix this and clean that.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Like I've had long conversations with RFK, and that guy's
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: in struggle all day. It's a battle all day. Yeah,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: it's dealing with all these pressures. And look, they've made
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of headway. They've made a lot of headway
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: with with peptides. They made a lot of headway with
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: eliminating some of these unnecessary food dies and all these
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: different things that we've been subject to but they lost
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: with glyphas eate. Yeah, that was a big one, man.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Glyphasate was a big one. You know. I've got a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: guy coming on who's an expert in it that's going
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: to talk about it soon. And it is the people
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: that are gaslighting you to say it's not an issue.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: We don't really know how much of the health problems
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people have who consume glyphosate ridden
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: products have. We don't know how much it's affecting you.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: What is it taking away from your immune system? What
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: is it taking away from how much is your body
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: processing this fucking toxic herbicide that's in your system versus
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, how much of that is contributing to people's
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: health problems. There's a lot of people that think that
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: that's what a lot of this gluten analogy shit is
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: because people are just reacting to bromate and pesticides and herbicides.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: But what's that stat with Iowa being the center for
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: glycophate basically with all the agriculture there and then that's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: like the hotbed for cancer. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: don't have to look very far to see that connection.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: No, you don't know, Well, you know, that was also
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: back in the day when people when people talk about
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: the polio epidemic, you can't talk about the polio epidemic
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: without also talking about spraying of DDT all over the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: fucking country because DDT poisoning has the exact same reaction
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: the body has exact same reaction as polo as paralytic
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: polo polio, polo polio. You know the disease. Like, there's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: this woman who wrote a great book on it, Suzanne Humphries,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: is called Dissolving Illusions, and it's all about that and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: all about like, first of all, they were spraying it
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: behind cars in streets where children were playing and people
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: were getting.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing kids like running through it.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't just people that were getting polio. This
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: is part of the problem with the narrative that it's polio.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Animals were getting polio. Like animals were getting polio, but
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: they don't get polio. It doesn't spread to animals, But
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: their horses and fucking cows were getting paralyzed. They were
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: getting the same symptoms because it's fucking dd T poison Yeah,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: and here's the craziest one. What percentage of polio is asymptomatic.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I mean you get it and you have no symptoms
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: nine percent. Yeah, so it's people have it this it's
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: d d T. Yeah, it's DDT that. I mean, look,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: it's not saying that some people that are very sick
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: and immune compromise get polio and get fucked up and die.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Of course, polio's bad. Thousands of people die every year
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: from the flu. Flu's bad, right, Okay, But you know
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: what else is bad? DDT? You know what what else
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: is going on? When everybody was going through this whole
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: polio apademic fucking's brand DDT everywhere, and most people are
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: ignorant to it. Yeah, and you bring it up, they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: call you a conspiracy theorist. But it's fucking fact. Yeah,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: it's undeniable.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I was like, you know, the controlling the weather.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's conspiracy. But then I started seeing
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: the planes like laying the fucking clouds out. Have you seen?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Have you seen it?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Yes? And no? Okay, So I actually did a show
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: on this, you did, Yes? I did not an episode
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: of the podcast. I did an episode of Joe Rogan
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Questions Everything Now, that show that I used to do
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: back the day. We did a whole episode on chemtrails
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: and one of the things we've met. First of all,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: the reason why it looks like that, this is just
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: a fact. The reason why it looks like that is
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: there's condensation in the atmosphere. You have a hot jet engine,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: it's passing through this cool air, and the hot jet
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: engine and the cool wet air creates clouds. Those clouds
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: are real, it's artificial clowds. Right. Also, they spray shit
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: in the air. Two things are happening.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you see the normal planes. You see the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: normal jet stream and you're like, okay, checks out. Then
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: you see the other ones and it's a different jet stream.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't matter. The condensation in the atmosphere
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: is inconsistent, just like clouds are inconsistently.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: You can we watch them the other day make laps.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it might not be the same plane. It
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: might just be a route. Right, You're not watching the
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: entire plane go all the way downland and come back. No, no,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: but you're watching consistent plane tatters. But that's why it
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: looks like that. But it's just days where there's a
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: lot of condensation in the atmosphere. Dude, I'm telling you
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: listen those planes. If you look at a Southwest flight
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: and they're not spraying, okay, but some planes spray shit. Yeah,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: And there are some weather modification, the experiments that they
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: do that are completely top secret. They don't let anybody
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: know about it. They do cloud seating, They cause floods,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: like what happened with fucking Dubai. They ever see the
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Dubai shit where Lamborghinis are floating down the highway. That
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: is people fucking with the environment.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I thought was conspiracy before, which I don't now.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: No, it's real. Well, Abu Dhabi does it every week.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi makes it rain every week with cloud seating,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: and because they're rich, like fuck it make it ay.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: And so there's there's real weather modification. Now that's there's
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: cloud seating, and then there's experimental shit like some of
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: the shit that like Bill Gates was talking about, like
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: spraying reflective particles in the atmosphere to block out the sun. Like, hey,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: fuck face, yeah, who are you to make a decision
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: for the whole world to pool the world? You didn't
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: even graduate college. Shut the fuck up. But this is crazy.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: And also the unintended consequences of any action that has
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: never been taken before, like cooling off the fucking planet.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: What if this dipshit starts the next ice age? Neverbody
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: fucking dies, right, I know, I mean, get the fuck
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: out of the air, leave us alone. Stop playing god.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: You don't know what you're doing. And also do you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: have any money invested in any of these projects attached
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: to this?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: For sure? This? You know we talk about all this stuff.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't want to say this. So for public land,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: I want to say this part of my notes. Call
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: your senators, say you want the roadless rule kept intact.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: Say we don't want to get rid of of the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: forty five million acres that that are going to be
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: protected with the roadless rule. But to call your cinators
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: this is two zero two two two four three one
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: two one say say you uh, you want the roadless
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: rules kept intact? And we have we have to let
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: our voices heard. Our voice was heard on this not
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: one acre we won that one. We have to do
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: it again. You have to call your senators and say
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: and just voice your concerns.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope. You can't let them have any ground.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: But like what I here's what This thing was really
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: pissed me off because, as I said, the administration. At first,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, we got some we got some good
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: pipe hitters in there. It feels like they do what
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Trump says. If they don't, they're gone. They're like they're
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: the scapegoat for whatever failed. They're out of there. You
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: can see the writing on the wall, Like I don't.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: I was. I wanted Tolcy to get in there and
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: kick ass because I knew how she felt about the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: war and Iran and like that would a how detrimental
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: that would be. So I was like I believed in her,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: and now with her husband getting sick and now she's
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: out of there. But it feels like people are It's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: like if you stand up for something, you're gone. And
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: now they got this Mark Wayne Mullin in there, who
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: just two days ago for this roadless rule, he unwinded
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: thirty one laws that we're going to protect the public land, right,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: just thirty one laws. He just said, yeah, those aren't
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: going to apply anymore because we need to. They awarded
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: a one point seven billion dollar contract to build a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: wall in Texas that Big Bin National Park. One point
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: seven million billion dollars has been awarded and it wasn't
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: even bid to build this wall in Big Bin National
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: Park here. It's like, how the public doesn't want that.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: We don't want to fuck in the wallall for they're
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: saying for border protection. And if you look at like
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: where the border crossings are, it's not in the middle
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: of the fucking park.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: So what do you think that wall's really for.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, fucking up National Park one of the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: most pristine places in Texas. I don't know what the
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: goal is.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: But have you read into it though? Is there any
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: arguments pro that the walls?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there is. I'm sure it's for border protection.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe Jamie can look it up. Yeah, see
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: if there's is there, Like there was not a public
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: input on it.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Again, right, that's a problem. And then the problem is
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: again they can come up with reasons. Yeah, why you know,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: they have to make some new laws because well, we
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: got to protect people. Yeah, And that's how the super
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Slope began.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: It was a COVID like, you know, safe and effective,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: protect your communities. It's like, do this for safety. Well,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: it's the same thing.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Trump administration will bypass environmental laws for border project in
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: big Ben National Park. So what does does it say
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: with the argument for it is, according to preliminary federal notice,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: latest regulatory waiver will apply to more than one hundred
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: miles of US Mexico border. So it's a border wall
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: from near the closed canyon trail in big Ben Ranch
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: State Park through the entirety of big Ben National Park
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: into remote parts of southeastern Brewster County. In the notice,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen wrote, the administration is bypassing
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a wide range of laws to ensure the expeditious expeditious
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: construction of barriers and roads along the southern border, while
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: US Customs and Border Protection continues to insist it will
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: not build a thirty foot tall steel border wall in
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: either the state or national park. The agency's current plans
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: call for a mix of vehicle barriers, surveillance technology, and
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: patrol road upgrades in the parks as a part of
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: a project dubbed Big Ben four.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: So this is like not listening to the experts. Again,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: Six former superintendents a Big Ben National Park pended letter
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: to Mullen urging him not take such a sepence. So
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: again not listening to the experts. Just like the ballot
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: box biology, just doing whatever the fuck they want, doesn't
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: matter what the public are the expert things they're gonna
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: thinks they're going to do it. Award these bids to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: the probably some construction affect this guy's invested in for
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: one point seven billion dollars with no bid. It's like,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: how is this?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: How is this?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very I don't understand it. Is there
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of crossings in there?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: No, there's not. That's the thing they have where all
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: the crossings happen. There's like this tiniest percentage in that park.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Because it seems like it's probably a very remote area
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: of Mexico that it connects to as well. Right, so
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: it'd be very difficult to get through that way. And
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: also if you're going to get through that way, like
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: good lord, right, you're going into tough country.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that's that's good Elk country down there.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: I know people who hunt in West Texas, good good bulls. Yeah.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like, I just I don't know. It's
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: ah so if you look at the millions of Americans
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: who treasure Big Band, you know they don't want construction
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: down there, And especially if if we voted on it, fine,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: if there was a reason, fine, but it was never
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: voted on.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it says the horrific plans are in a front
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: to the millions of Americans who treasure Big Ban Lake
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: and Jordal, an advocate with the Center for Biological Diversity,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: said in a statement, politicians who have never set foot
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: here are signing a death warrant for this wild and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: beautiful place. Yep.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's you know, I've heard somebody, you know,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: pretty close with Trump tell me that he's never walked
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: on dirt before.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Trump has never walked on dirty plays golf.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: I still have walked on dirt grass baby, so not
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: on his course. But the point is, it's like somebody
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: who doesn't appreciate public land. They don't give a fuck
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: about this.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: No, they don't give a fucking they don't. They're not
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: going to see it and they never would see it.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: But there as well, same spot. Look, they have to
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: protect the border, but if there's not a lot of
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: crossings there and all of a sudden, you want to
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: spend all this money to build a steel border, like
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: who's getting the contract act?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: And just to award that with no bid it's just
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: not that's not I were I was a public buyer.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: That's not how it works. You're spending public money. You
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: can just spend public money without a bid, right, I mean,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: but they bypass all this shit that has the checks
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: and balance in place to ensure that we're making good
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: decisions with public money. They bypass it all, and then
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: you know who suffers here. It's the people who don't
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: have Like some people they go to the park for
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: mental health, they want to go camp, they want it's
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: like they might not have two nickels to their name,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: but they're appreciating nature. That's why public land is so
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: important because that gives purpose to people like me who's
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: less like I got to get out of this shithold
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: city and go recharge.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: So for people who don't appreciate that or care about that,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: that's wasted land. It's like we could have a shopping mall,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: we could have investors doing this, we could have make
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: this work because right now they would say that, well,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: not everybody can can take advantage of this because you
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: have to hike, you have to do these things. So
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: we want to make it more accessible so more people
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: can enjoy it. No Yeah, that's that's not how it works.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: You're gonna fuck it up. Yeah, you can't just have
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: helicopter landing plaids all over the fucking woods.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: There's there's your Yeah, there's your contract.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Spike in border walls spending goes mostly to two firms
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: with GOP white House ties. Construction contracts, including two point
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: six billion dollars awarded this week, are being awarded to
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: at a historic scale through a streamline process that could
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: put Trump on track to realize his vision for a
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: border wall.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: M Yeah, see that streamline process that was bypassing thirty
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: one laws.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: And so what's there now? Like, what is the border
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: now between Mexico and the United States in that area?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Is it just land like you just walk right across.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: It's probably the river?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: What is it? What is the border? Can we find
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: that out? Jamie? Does it? Say? Okay, let's just look
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: go up, look at the map. What the map looks like. Okay,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: let's say it's all right, So that's where it is.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: So is that the river that blocks it?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: Well, the river blocks the whole bottom of the border. Technically,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: there's certain parts of the river.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: It's not that hard to get across that river.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, people aren't going to go there to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: cross That's crazy.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: How beautiful that is.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: God, that's so beautiful.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: No, they're they're not going there to cross Mountainous.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's hard to see. Actually,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: where is the most border crossings? All for a while,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: it was like where they had that road where they're
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: just letting them.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Most border crossings are actually in Arizona. Really, Yeah, I'm
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: almost positive. So I'm sure Jamie's going to find it here.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: I'm asking it. How many happened through big Ben National Parks?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Fine, that fucking one thirty go stop them. Eighty
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: four billion dollars.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like, God, I don't know, just stuff
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: like this. So what happens is like you get distracted
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: with the Israel, the bombing of the girls' school, the
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: Epstein files, and then they do shit like this.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Okay. The only official border crossing inside big Ben National
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Park is the Bokias Port of Entry, and it sees
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: on the order of about ten thousand legal crossings by
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: visitors per year, plus a relatively small number of unauthorized crossings.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Compared with other parts of the US Mexico border What
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: exists in big Ben. Big Ben National Park shares about
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen miles of border with Mexico along
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: the Rio Grande. The only legal port of entry actually
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: inside the park is Bolkia's crossing, small pedestrian only crossing
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: to the Bikias del Carmen. Mexico National Park Service information
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: and travel videos describe Bokias as handling roughly ten thousand
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: visitor crossings per year.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are mostly all legal. So seven hundred and
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: thirty four.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Border patrol sector sees only a fraction of total Southwest
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: border crossings. One report cited seven hundred and thirty four
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: people documented crossing in that sector by more than twenty
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: seven thousand along the entire US Mexico border in a
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: given period. And like, what year was that where it
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: was seven hundred and thirty four. Was that before they
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: shut down the border? Was really crazy? How many people
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: came in the country. Oh, Now, the fact that over
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: four years it's north of ten million, and I've talked
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: to people that think it's twenty.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: Doesn't say wow, And it just shows those out of
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: the twenty seven thousand, but doesn't say they're illegal.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: So it's not a hotspot across the.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Last slide there said it's the smallest fraction it is illegal.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: Of that seven thirty four those were like total crossings
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: in that area, the smallest fraction was illegal. So it's no,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: it's not as BS.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Right, it's BS and they're just gonna do it because
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: they've got a nice contract and they want a wall,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: beautiful wall.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but why in the National Park. No.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: The Washington Post report last week the skyrocketing border wall
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: contracts now totally more than nineteen point four billion in
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: the last six months, have mostly gone to Bernard and Fisher.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: That's prompted a lawsuit against Trump administration from a would
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: be rival border wall builder who claims that the government
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: doled out billions in contracts without genuine competitive opportunities.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's illegal, I mean, but that's what they're doing.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, bueno no.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: And so but as I was saying, they distract us
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: with all this other stuff and pushed through shit like this,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: like who knows what a Senate what the Senator house
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: is voting on on a fucking Tuesday. Well, it was
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: this pubblic plan thing, you know, just added in in
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: the middle of the night. We have no no say
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: on it. We're distracted with all the fights at the UFC,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: with Israel doing whatever the fuck they're doing, and it's
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: just like, oh, we just lost all this public land too,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: and it's like it's it's impossible to keep up on
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: That's what's frustrating.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not frustrating. The bear meat, it's pretty good.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's a man, that's legit. But what okay?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: So that so what can be done? This bill hasn't
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: passed right.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: No, now it's going to go to the Senate. So
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: it was in the House this and then here's what,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: here's a problem. So this was originally this uh roadless
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: rule is bipartisan. Everybody agreed, let's protect this. Now with
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: Mike Lee adding this language in there, now it's turned
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: now there's lines in the sand. And nine Republican senators
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: voted with the Democrats on this to allow this, the
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: roadless Rule to get to be in there. So now
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: it goes to the full Senate. Now they're going to
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: need whatever the percentage is sixty I think sixty percent
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: of a full Senate vote for it to pass. So
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: we'll see.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: So now the scumbag lobbyists get involved, yep, and they
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: start pressuring people and help out. You do this, and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: I'll do that, and help me here.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: And when they get overwhelmed because of switchboards, if people
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: call that two O two number like I said, then
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: that makes it to everybody. And was that number again,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: two o two two two four three four two one.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: Say you're you want to keep the roadless rule intact.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: You don't want to sell off public lands. You don't
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: want to This is all bs. But they they do this,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: and yeah, the lobbyists get involved. And what happens is
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: like what happened with the Big Beautiful Bill is this
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: part was in there and Trump wanted it in there,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: but it was causing such a friction. He was just like,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: I want my big Beautiful Bill past. These guys are
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: fucking it up with this public land stuff. Pull that out.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: Let's get this through.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: So they did.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: They pulled out this. We saved the public land. Who
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: knows what we lost that that was also attached, but anyway,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: we save public land. At that time, they were gonna
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: for affordable housing. Same thing has to happen here. He's
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: got this language added in to the shit that are
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: already working on that changes. You know, we've had we've
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: had this in place for decades and it's worked, right,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: so we have to say no, we're not down with this,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: and they have to pull it out again.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope we can get it through. We'll push it.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: You got it up on social media where people can Yeah,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: I will Cameron Hanes Instagram.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: I will for sure. But it's like, you know, it's
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: this is so important because it's so important to people
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: without a voice. So it's like I feel sometimes like
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: how did I get in this position? I know you
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: do too, Like where you're at the White House, You're
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: just like, how the how the fuck could somebody like
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: me earn this opportunity? Right, You've earned it through decades
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: and decades of work, of being curious, of being fair,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: of being positive, of caring, and now people want to
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: come on and share their thoughts with you. That gives
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: you a platform.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: You've created the.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: Most powerful voice probably in the world at sometimes. And
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: so you get invited to the White House and I know,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: like for me, I know they've used me there before, Like, yeah,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: I created value in myself, they invited me there. For
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: veterans day, and I said, no, I'm not going because
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: I don't fucking agree with this war and Iran. I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: don't agree with all the shit. I don't want to
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: go and have a picture in the fucking White House
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: so people could be like, see, see you, you fucking
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: you're part of this. You you know, because we did
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: we we thought that Trump was the best option at
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: the last election.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I did. I have one hundred percent believed he was better.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: The thing is, he might still have been the best
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: off he might be, but and that's fine. We know
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: what would have happened no Kamala harrisonstration and a continuation
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: of the Biden administration.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: I don't want people coming in the border unchecked by
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: the millions. I didn't want that. I didn't want, you know,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: this celebration of transgenderism. I have no problem with transgenders
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: or cross dressers or I have no problem or gay
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: or anything like that. I just don't want it promoted
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: just crazily to our youth.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: I don't want youth getting surgery that their parents don't
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: know about because they can't have a say in, and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: now I don't. I didn't want any of that, So
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: of course I'm going to vote for Trump right now.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: I don't like any of this ship. So I have
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: my right is to say no, I'm not down with
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: this right and I'm not going to the fuck I'm
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: not going to be in your picture at the fucking
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: White House so you can use it. And all the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: people who listened to me would be like, oh fuck,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: he was.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Why died you to go for was? And what was
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: the premise of having you there? I don't know, but
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: you're not a veteran, so what was the promise?
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: It's only because I have a big platform.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: So there you're going to celebrate Veterans Day at the
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: White House and they just said, let's get some famous
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: people probably.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's you know, remember the Epstein Files
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: where all the influencers had the binder.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Well it was Pam BONDI, yeah, but and there was,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: but there's there was a few other influencers.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: But they use they they use they can use people
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: like us for their messaging.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: And then they invited me back again after Now I've
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: been pretty critical of this administration just because I care,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: and it's just like I don't have to agree with
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: fucking lockstep with the person I voted for. That's our
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: right of citizens to be like, I voted for that,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: but I don't agree with this and I'm not happy
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: about this, and I'm and I want you to know
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: that's that's our right, is voters.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Well, they invite you back again. This was back.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: It was for public a public land thing, and I'm like, yeah,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: I'm down for it, but I just know I had
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: this this kid on Benji Backer. He's like, has this
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: this page of non partisan something for outdoors. But I
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: did this show with him and there was you know,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: bringing different people into debate public land or like to
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: share why we care about public land, coming from different places,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: but it's still all important to So I did the
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: show with him. Well, he went I had him on
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: the podcast. He talked about his how he's working hard
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: to protect public land. He went back and Trump signed
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: an executive order something about public land, and all it
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: was was a pomp and circumstance photo op to get
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: executive order. Nothing has happened to it, nothing has happened
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: with it, no action has been taken. It was like
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: all it was was just they can make a press
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: clipping out of it. A theater and nothing's going to change.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Nothing changes, nothing's protected. So that's what I feel like
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of these times, if I get invited there,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: it's for that is to make my base if I
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: have a base, I don't, I'm not a politician, but
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: to make my people like feel a little better about
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: whatever's going on. And I understand that's how it works.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: You want powerful people on your side.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm powerful, but I have a pretty
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: big following. I just I just I went back there
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: because there's a huge honor, like the few times that
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: I've been back there, and it's amazing, and it's like
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: being in the White House. Somebody like me should never
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: be there. But I've created value in my name in
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: some ways that I get that opportunity. But that opportunity
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: comes with a price. So now I have to think
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: about am I true to what I believe in by
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: showing support for this? And now too, there's too much
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: for me that I'm not happy with it. I can't
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: ignore it personally, So that's I feel like they use
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: they use opportunities like that for you know, for press.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like there's so many different people that
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: want a piece of the pie. And if there's these
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: giant contracts for border walls and giant contracts for this,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: it's just such an incentive to do things that people
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: don't want.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: Or what about the military drones? Those contracts when this
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: war started, that's you can look into who who made
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: money on that one?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Who made money on that one?
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: Should we look it up, Jamie? Drone military contract? Let's
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: see who made money. I don't want to say, but
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: you know, huh.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, well I don't know, so I'm gonna be surprised.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah so maybe maybe not.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: But like when you follow the money, it makes a
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: lot of sense. Of course, when you follow apak, you're like,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: why is this politician always pushing this ship? Where do
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: they get their money? Oh? I know this guy back home,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: he's running for like this local politician thing. His name's Adam.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, he goes, Don Junior, What what Jamie? What
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: did you find? Wait a minute, what did you are you?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: This has gotta be a mistake. Eric and Don Junior
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: invest in military drone company amid Iran war?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: Jamie?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: Where'd you find this?
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: That seems like propaganda from Iran or something?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: Is that a cartoon. They're on cartoon propaganda again. No,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: But so anyway you start. I was talking about this
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: local guy back home and he said that, he goes,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: I need to call Israel. He goes, it is so
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: hard to get money for like to run as a
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: in whatever. It's just a local election. But you go
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: to a business, they say, yeah, here, I got eighteen
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: dollars I can contribute right where. So you see these
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: big politicians, you see how much money they're getting. It's like, wait,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: what's this apac thing? Why did they get millions?
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: Then you start wondering how they're voting on things. You're like,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: this is making a lot more sense. It's like, where's
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: the money coming from.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna they have to take all that out
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: of politics. Oh, Mike, I don't know how you could
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: at this point. But when you can influence politicians and
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: influence who gets promoted to be voted for, who gets
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: put out into the public eye in a great light,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: in a positive light, And then you realize that there's
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: just all this money from corporations to get this person in,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: or from other foreign countries to get this person in,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: or from lobbyists to get this person in and you're like, wait,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: why that's not serving us?
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: Now, It's like, how do you stop that?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: When did Okay, here's a big question, when did money
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: officially become a problem in politics? I know that's a
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: very broad question, but put that in perplexity and see
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: what it says.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: A Citizens United thing was a big deal. But I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: think it was twenty twelve.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: What thing is that citizens united? Citizens United? And that
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: was twenty twelve th and so that changed a lot.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: But it was always the problem before that. I mean,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: there's always been like when did corporations become a real problem?
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: When did APAC become a problem? When did when did
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: APAC form? And when did they start donating to American politicians? Yeah,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: it's a first of all, I don't think any foreign government,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: anyone connected to foreign government, should have any influence whatsoever
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: on an American post.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: I've I've heard our politicians say their loyalty is to Israel.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: That is crazy. I've I've heard people say twenty twenty two,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: twenty two did not direct directly start donating to US
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: political candidates until twenty twenty two. Fucking Jesus.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: So I if I if I don't, I mean if
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: I remember correctly, Trump didn't take any money from Israel
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: his first election. And now he just gave an award
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: to somebody. You can see who he just gave an
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: award to?
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Will you give it award? What kind of one of
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: the big ones? Well of them nice ones? They put
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: them around your neck and you stand there in the
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: Oval office.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: Yep, who contributed to it?
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: He just won the Olympics.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Who contributed two hundred and fifty million to his last election? Oh,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: so do you want an award?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: That's how much you gotta pay for warch I could?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really want an award. I wouldn't
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: know what to do with it anyway. So to me
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: that so you said, like if twenty twenty two, I
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: would imagine APEC what was around much? I would have thought.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that actually, But when I look at
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: like if you look at Thomas Massey, he got in
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: the crosshairs of the president for whatever reason, right he
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: got They had a candidate they wanted him to lose
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: to and he did.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: He did lose. Yeah, So here's the thing. We'll get
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: to that in a second. Here's the thing, Citizens United
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: decision is widely seen as having created serious problems in
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: US politics by vastly increasing the role of big money
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: and reducing transparency. And so this was what year, Jamie,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: Say it was twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: Ten, twenty ten. So twenty ten Supreme Court decision further tilted, Yeah,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: tilted political influence towards wealthy donors and corporations. That's when
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: we got fucked. Yeah.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: I think that's when it started treating corporations like a
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: person and gave them rights.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: In somewhere, I see that second bullet point, supercharge packs,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: which can take unlimited contributions from what they donors have spent,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: unlimited mounts. And so that's how they control the elections
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: And that was the Obama administration. Dark money, dark money
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: from groups don't fully disclosed donors have exploded. Voters often
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: cannot see who's really funding major political campaigns. So we
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: need to just fucking tune the wayback machine to two
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine. But even then, like two thousand and
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: nine is after they bailed out the fucking banks. Yeah,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: fifteen years later, Citizens United define the twenty twenty four election. Yeah,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: there it is yeah, fucked it's a slippery slop. Yeah.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: So that's like Ruth Ginsburg right there called it the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: worst ruling enough for time on.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: The court whoa overwhelming majorities of Americans have consistently expressed
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: disapproval of the ruling, with at least twenty two states
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: and hundreds of cities voting to support a constitutional amendment
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: to overturn it. Citizens United reshaped political campaign in profound ways,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: giving corporations and billionaire funded super packs a central role
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: in US elections and making untraceable dark money a major
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: force in politics. And yet it may only be now
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: in the aftermath of twenty twenty four election we could
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: beIN to understand the full impact of the decision.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: And it's perfect too because Citizens United. So this is
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: like the language they use to dupe us, like, oh,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: citizens United.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: This, we're together. This is good, right, just like the
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: Patriot Acts.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or like an Oregon that the hunting thing it's
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: called the Peace Act.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, talk about that, because that one's bonker.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is not. So this is the same thing.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: It's just it's follow the money. If you want to
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: know why we're so fucked up, follow the money. So
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: the IP twenty eight. This is a crazy thing they
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: want to Here's here's where I'll just explain Oregon real quick.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: Oregon is like a patriot dish for these crazy ideas,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: for these political ideas. Like if you think of, uh,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: legalizing recreational drug use, you know, we did that in Oregon,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: like heroine math, you can have that. It's fine, it's whatever.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: I think they turned that back, right, but they tried
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: it to see how it would work in Oregon.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't work out so well. Right now, this is.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: Another crazy one, but they try it in Oregon because
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: it's very We've got a huge liberal population in Portland
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: and Eugene and some of these in Salem.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: But uh, not just liberals.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're more than just because I'm friends with liberals,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: If they're gone, they're they're at the far end of
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: the political spectrum on the left for sure. Full on communists, socialists,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: no meat, everyone should be a vegan. They want everybody
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: to get bitten by that tick.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so much.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: We just talk about that too. We'll get to that
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: in a minute. But so the law, the new thing
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: the builder trying to pass between ban first of all,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: uh was it was it the may who was it
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: the governor of Washington? Which which governor? Was it Oregon
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: or Washington that tried to make it so that you
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: have to have a fucking license to paddle board?
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: Oh? Probably Washington.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: Can you fucking imagine, yeah, telling someone that they have
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: to have a license to paddle a fucking canoe. Yeah, well,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: if you have to pay the state money to have
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: a license to paddle a fucking canoe.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: They also made it like during COVID, like some guy
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: was out fishing by himself in the lake. I think
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: he got a ticket.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: All right, guy got arrested when he was surfing by
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: himself in California. Right, So you're gonna get sick out
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: there in the middle of the ocean surfing.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: It's just silly. But this IP twenty eight they bill
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: it as you know on there, so they'll they'll do
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: this saying I go to get these votes. They needed
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: one hundred and seventeen thousand votes to get this on
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: the ballot, So to get one hundred and seventeen thousand
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: people to sign your petition. Basically, all I said was
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: stop animal cruelty.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: You have to do is go to Portland and visit
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: one homeless shelter to.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: Say, hey, do you want to stop animal cruelty?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I love animals. Well, I love animals too.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: Oh he signed this, So they didn't tell you that
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: it's making you know, you can't fish, you can't hunt,
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: you can't raise animals.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Like backyard chickens. You can't raise backyard chicken ranchers.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: Just like even you sell beef, you can't do it.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: They're making it like even the breeding of animals, like
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: we breed cows, we breed horses. There's stud fees, there's
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 3: different things. It makes better race like like a race horses,
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: but there's also better product for beef. Right, so we
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: control like when a cow goes in the heat, when
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: he gets bread, things like that. That's part of like
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: being a rancher. Well, they want to make that like
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: because a cow didn't agree to it, it's like rape.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: It's like sexual assault. Like you can't control when animals breed,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: so that takes away ranching. There is no ranching, right,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 3: So they want to make it to where they're not
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: going to make eating meat illegal, but if people can't
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: raise it, you're buying it from some other state at
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: a higher price to get your eliminating ranches in Oregon. Yeah,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: so it's killing the whole industry. And they could say
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: that like even if you if you hurt an animal,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know what, like, you could get charged with assault.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: So this is they want every animal treated like your
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: family pet or dog.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: Oh and but the thing is for food.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: I was wondering, like if you you know how, you're
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 3: driving a car and like sometimes a bird flies in
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: front of you.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Right, arrested for that? Yeah that, but you're responsible for
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: your vehicle. You killed that squirrel.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: So this guy who introduced this, this is the third
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: attempt at doing this, he knows he's not going to
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: get the vote because.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: How it work.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: To get on the violet ballot, they take six percent
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: of the votes cast and the last governor governor alike,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: So six percent of the last votes casted. So it's
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: a small number, but it's one hundred and seventeen thousand
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: they can get that many. Boy just saying stop animal cruelty.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: Now it goes to the ballot. But he knows this
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: is his third time. He knows this isn't going to pass.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: But it's like It just tells them what they need
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: to work on, what language they need to change. It's
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: all part of this long term process to get hunting
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: and fishing stopped right because I think like in general,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: the government, they like consumers. They don't like people being
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: too self sufficient. They like them relying on that. This
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: is another step like if we can get rid of
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: ranchers hunting and fishing, don't need the guns, don't need
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: to be killing stuff, then you're just like, we'll provide
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: the meat for you. Bill Gates owns all this land.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: You talked about Bill Gates before and him making decisions
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: on shit he doesn't know anything about. He dropped out
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: of college. But did you say he dropped out of
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: college or yeah, So it's a it's they want to
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: be able to control who's who's providing the food, who's
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: making the money, what type of food it is. You know.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: It's like it goes back to the whole WC things
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: like you will own nothing and be happy. It's like
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: that's they want these smart cities working towards that to
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: where no, you don't need to be a badass hunter anymore.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: We got it right, and they can use these nutty
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: progressive people as just useful idiots to push things through,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: that's all it is. And then you can get a
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: bunch of people that are pushing money packs, that are
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: pushing money towards these people to fund them to push
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: these wacky ideas. Right, why would they do that? Well,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: that's why they do that. They do that because they
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: want you dependent on them.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: Right, And this is part of this process where it
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't happen overnight and this thing won't won't make it
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: into law for sure, but they'll see where they're at.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: This will be like, Okay, here's where we're at, here's
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: what we need to change on our messaging, here's where
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: the biggest pushback was, and they adjust, where can we
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: do that. On the other side, it's like, I know
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: there's farming ranches organizations, but like it's it's money. It's
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 3: like who's giving these people the money. It's usually coming
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: from out of state, and they have more money and
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: they're more organized than people who are working. Because when
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: you're a rancher, you're fucking working all the time. You
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: don't you can't go get signatures and shit, yeah you
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: got work to do. These fucking these environmental people that
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: are just crazy like extremists. They get paid for doing this,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 3: so it's like that's how that's their job. You know,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: a rancher has a he has a job and it's
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: very hard. He doesn't have time to go out and
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: talk knock on doors.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: That's the really fucked up part is a lot of
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: these people that are these protesters, these organizers, that is
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: their job. And that's hard for people to really understand
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: and until you listen to people like Mike Ben's where
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: he breaks down how NGOs work and how they fun
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: things and the fact that like most of these things
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: are a fucking scam. Most nonprofits are a fuck it's game, definitely,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: and it's hard for people to wrap their head around
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: that because you think of nonprofit. Look, oh my son
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: works for a nonprofit. Oh, he must be a good guy. Yeah,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: he's like trying to help and maybe he is a
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: good guy. Maybe he starts out a good guy, but
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: then you're corrupted by the system that you realize like,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: oh no, the nonprofit is essentially about supporting the nonprofit,
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: and most of the money goes to the supporting of
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: this organization, the overhead, the structure, all the infrastructure, all
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: the people working there, They all get paid very well,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: and then a needed peeth goes to whatever the fuck
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: The people starting the nonprofit will be like, Okay, first
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna need this much money exactly. Oh you want
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: to be my VP. I can count on you. You're
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: gonna make this much money. So that's what happens. And
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: then whatever's left is like that's their you know that
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: they can't write off that's what they contribute.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did I see this? Oh? This is another
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: one that I saw about non hospitals. Do you know
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: that nonprofit hospitals are the most profitable?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. They can just hide that money.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: They charge crazy amounts for it.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: Graz is that, like, nonprofit are the most profitable. Yeah,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: So this whole idea is it's all just bullshit. Most
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: of what you think of as like philanthropy is really
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: like the Bill Gates stuff. There's a great book called
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: fuck what is the name of the book? I read
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: this book, Control of Garcs, and it's all about how
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys they realize that they were
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: having public image problems, like particularly Bill Gates, like during
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: the antitrust lawsuits with Microsoft. Then he pivots to this
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation where it's all about philanthropy,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: but they're philanthro capitalists. All the different philanthropy ventures are
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: extremely profitable. Like he made five hundred million dollars allegedly
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: off the COVID vaccine off of his investments in this
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: vaccine it didn't even work.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think Trump got paid paid with that too.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, you know the money thing, I
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: don't know the citizens or regular citizens are the ones
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: that pay the price for this.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's dark and so here it is. You
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: put your heads on on real quick. Listen this guy
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: talk about Congressman recently described some nonprofit hospitals as hedge
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: funds with hospital beds.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: Persons say that nonprofit hospitals were like hedge funds with
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: hospital beds, and I was like, I bet they are.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: What's going on here because in the United States more
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: than half of our hospitals are nonprofits, but the hospital
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: world doesn't feel very nonprofity. And then I read this
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: article by Scott Hodge in the Washington Post that talked
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: about how they need to be taxed, and it turns
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: out that the total revenues of nonprofit hospitals in America.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, so three years ago, was one.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: Point three trial million dollars. And it turns out that
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: they're getting a bunch of taxpayer money. In fact, three
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: years ago, so this is probably a lot more now,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: nonprofit hospitals were making forty five billion dollars worth of profit,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: and as I mentioned, we taxpayers give them a bunch
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: of money. In fact, in twenty twenty one, we gave
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: them thirty eight billion dollars eleven and a half billion
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: dollars of it because they don't have to pay any taxes,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: and that was five years ago, so this is probably
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: more like sixty billion now. And the reason that we
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: hypothetically give them this money as taxpayers is because they're
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: supposed to do charity. But there was a study that
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: looked at almost fifteen hundred nonprofit hospitals and found that
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: eighty six percent of them provided little or no charity.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: And that's because almost everybody that goes to hospitals has insurance,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: is either private health insurance or insurance from the government.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: Only three percent of people don't have health insurance. And
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: it's not like the hospitals give.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Them a deal.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: It turns out that the government was checking this out
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: around two thousand and nine. The hospital spun up a
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: lobbying campaign and got any requirements that would basically define
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: what kind of charity they would have to do squashed.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: So now it's kind of the honor system.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: So I was like, where are those billions of dollars
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: going that the nonprofit hospitals making profits? Turns out it
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: goes to executives like these CEOs who are getting paid
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: about four.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: And a half million dollars a year.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile their nurses make about seventy k four and a
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: half million a year. Here apparently management consultants getting billions
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: of dollars from nonprofit hospitals. And here's a guy, Robert
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: at a hospital in New York who paid himself fifteen
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: point three million dollars a year nonprofit hospital. And there
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: are really good nonprofit hospitals that are primarily funded by
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: donations and serve low income families and people in need,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: like Saint Jude or.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: Like the Shriners. But it looks like about eighty.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: Six percent of these nonprofit hospitals get fifty or sixty
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: billion dollars from US taxpayers like you and me, because
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: they're supposed to do some form of charity, but they
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: paid off the governments so they don't have to really
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: do charity. And some of their CEOs are making fifteen
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: point three million dollars a year while we subsidize them
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: with like fifty billion dollars.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: Do you think this is right? I saw this contract.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: So this is ped Davis Jones on Instagram. Motherfuckers. So
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: it's like it's again, it's just like the UFO thing.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: It's there's distractions, there's so much to pay attention to.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: There's so much fucking fraud and there's so much. This
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: is what Elon told me when he started looking into
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: the dough stuff. He's like, it's impossible to describe the
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: amount of fraud. He's like, it's insane. That's what Nick
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Shirley found in Minnesota when he went to investigate the daycares,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: and also found in California with hospice care centers. There's
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: entire motels where every room was supposed to be in
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: office for some fucking nonprofit and they're all just sipe
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: fitting money. So it's madness.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 3: So that's like, that's what it makes money, regular people
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: like me, Like, what's the answer. It's like, what's the
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: point to all this alien? Meanwhile I'm paying out my
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: ass and taxes for shit.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: Like this, yeah, and or for war. It's like, yeah,
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: all of it's gross, Yeah, every single Yeah. I mean,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna have to have is some side of
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: sort of like radical transparency where all this stuff gets
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: exposed and gets exposed like probably with some AI program,
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: and no one's going to want to turn that on, right,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: They're never gonna want everyone to know exactly how much
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: fraud and how much fucking terrible management they've done with
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: our money. Oh, like the Pentagon's never passed an audit once, No,
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: not one, now zero, And you look at you don't
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: pass an audit. You're going to jail for sure.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look at Yeah, how much we're in debt, all
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 3: the shenanigans they do with the public money.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: It's just like that's over exaggerated. We're only in debt
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: thirty nine trillion dollars. That's not a big deal, Isn't
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: that crazy? The thing is, they could just print thirty
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: nine trillion and it's done.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, paid.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: The reason why they don't is because they have really
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: good control. God, you're doing a great job.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: It's a one thing on this hunting thing. I do
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 3: have to give credit to Dan Gates and how it's
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 3: like they've done a good job in Colorado, like fighting
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: this is like been We've won a few things there.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: They tried the same thing with Oregon in Colorado, the
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: same kind of thing.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: Well, no, what Dan is doing, he's he's got out
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 3: their initiative three to zero two and it's going to
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: make hunting and fishing in Colorado constitutional, right, Okay, so
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 3: hopefully that you know how these just like this this
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: lobbyist and this IP twenty eight, they're seeing what works
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: and what they can get away with and kind of
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: planning for the future. Well, if Dan is successful with
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 3: this initiative three to oh two passing, that will be
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: like how we can address this in the future to
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: protect hunting and fishing. Because if you can go through there,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 3: this is like the litmus test for it, then okay,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 3: maybe we can do this in other states also, So
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: this is a big one coming up they're working on
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 3: right now. But I mean we have to we just
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: have to get more savvy politically to when they're doing
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: shit like this. We have to be more in tune,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 3: you know, and educated on it.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: It's such a bummer though, because like the people that
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: I know, like Mike Ben's that do this all day,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: I do not envy here. I mean, Mike Benz makes
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: these live streams where he's just exposing and they last
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: for hours. Who's going to go through them all?
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 3: Well, and you're.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: Exposing all these different companies.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: Be nice, be positive.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: We didn't do any of that. How do you? How
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: do you?
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: How do you talk about this? It's hard in a
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: nice and positive way.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: It's very very very difficult, very especially because these are
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: real problems.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: Last on my lit well, I don't know it's on
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: a list, but uh oh, I do want to talk
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: about the Spokeland. I want to shout out Ryan Callahan
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: from Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. You know, oklu great guy
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: bus has asked for this ship. Martin Heinrich, which is
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: he's a senator there in New Mexico. He's I think
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 3: he's a Democrat. I don't give a shit about Democrat,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: Republican whoever. He just fights for republic lands and he's
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: a badass. And then also Ron Whiten there in Oregon,
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: who normally i'd probably never agree with anything on because
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just different, but he is. He does
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 3: get that I want to. I want to give those
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 3: guys credit for trying their best to protect and fight
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: against his public lands sell off and Mike Lee and
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 3: this Energy Resource Committee, which is you know that they're
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: beholding to a different set of values. Usually it's money related,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: and these guys are kind of fighting for the guys
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: like us who just enjoy being out in the mountains.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I just wanted to tell those guys are
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: doing great, but I was gonna bring this up. This
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: is like the whole scandal I've been involved with recently,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: which is feels like a lot for me, which I
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: don't like. But my point on it is, I feel like, well.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: Let's explain the scandal before you get into that. So
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: you won the Oregon Marathon in your age category. Yeah,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: and then someone started complaining because you had taken BPC
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: one five seven YEP, which is a banned substance. Yeah,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: so you would take for people that don't know. As
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: ridiculous as it sounds, Cam broke his foot like two
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: years ago. You broke your foot like two years ago
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: and you never got it fixed. So all these miles
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: you've been running, you've been running with a broken broken foot,
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: and you went to waste Well. They treated your foot
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: with stem cells and they injected BPC one five seven
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: into your foot to help help your foot heel. Is
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: it healed now? Is the bone like fused up? Yeah?
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: What did it do? It just grew back?
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, finally, it was like it took a while because
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 3: I didn't stop running, and she does it look like
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 3: now in an X ray, it's like kind of the
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: the bone is. It was a big break, like a
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 3: pretty wide break, which is why the surgeon didn't know
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 3: if it was going to be able to the bone
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: is gonna be able to make a crosser because I
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: kept like moving moving it and he told me, he's like,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 3: you know with this this is I just had the
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: same surgery done on my thumb where the ligament pulls
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 3: a piece of the bone off and breaks it right,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: so that your ligaments and tendon's very strong, the bone fractures.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: So what happened here is I fell and I was
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: doing a raise and basically shredded my ligament, broke this bone.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: So they had to hope that the bone was big
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: enough to go attach it back to where it broke from,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: because bone on bone healing is much better than ligament
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: to bone. It's that quicker, right, So we need a
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: piece that bone well in my foot. They said he
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 3: didn't know how big that piece I broke off was,
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: so there's a chance that it wouldn't reattach through surgery,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: which means he'd have to take the ligament back to it.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 3: It's called a Jones fracture something outside of my foot
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 3: and hope it it connected. But that would be like
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 3: stretching that ligament beyond where it's supposed to by design.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: So it probably changed the function of your foot.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: It would change the dynamic on my foot and how
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 3: my foot and I run. I have a good stride,
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: I run well. Well, I'm And he said, there's no
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: guarantee that this will attach like it should, or that
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: you know, you'd need even another surgery if this doesn't work,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: and then another one to get the hardware out. So
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, I really don't want to do two
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 3: or three surgeries. Let's see if we can try other
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 3: treatments less invasive. If I can just deal with this
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 3: pain for long enough with my foot heel and it has.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: So I was like very interested in not getting the
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 3: surgery based on you know, he's a a renowned surgery
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 3: he does all the surgeries on the Oregon football team.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: He's a stud. Trust totally trust him. But I heard
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: what he was saying about, like, hey, there's no guarantee
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: this is going to work perfect, and I took that
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: to heart.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: So did you have the injury? How long ago?
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: It was June sixteenth of twenty twenty four.
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, quite a long time ago, right, so basically
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: solid two years. Yeah.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 3: So I went in and I dealt with it for
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, it hurt for a long time. I just
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: didn't want to stop living, you know. And I'm like, Okay,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: if it's just pain, I have a very high pain tolerance,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm going to block that out and
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: just do what I do. So I did.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: I did everything. I did all my hunts, I did races,
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 3: and it was terrible and but I made it. I
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 3: made it through in my foot's heeled. But so broke
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: it in June, went into waste twelve, I think in July.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: Went back in November, which is when I got that
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 3: stem cell back in it, and when they put in
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 3: the BPC there that one time in November, and so
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: that was like that was a thing, and all I said,
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I had a very fast Eugene Marathon time.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 3: For me, I'm healthier than now that I've ever been.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: I've retired, I've done more specific training. All these people,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I've been labeled as like a doper, right,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 3: like almost like Lance Armstrong.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: Like, well, you've been labeled by one very specific person
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: that is a professional runner who's also a vegan and
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: has been very vocal about you in an anti hunting way.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: So he's got that, and you're also your time, your
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: running time he's is he eighteen years younger than you? Yes,
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: and your running time is very similar to his his
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: last marathon. Yeah. Yeah. And your running time of this
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: year's marathon, which you won your age class, is quicker
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: than last year's by quite a bit. Yeah. What people
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: don't understand is last year your fucking foot was broken.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't run last year because I was hurt, So
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: it was quicker than like the year.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: Before, right, was your foot broken then?
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: No? No?
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, so your time is quicker now than it's ever
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: been before after recovering from your broken foot. Yeah, and
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: that's amazing, it's but how much quicker ten minutes it was.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: My best time was in my very best time was
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 3: in two thousand and six, me and Lance Armstrong when
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: we did the New York Marathon. I didn't even see
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 3: him during this one, but I ran two fifty like
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 3: twenty one in New York. I ran two fifty quite
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 3: a few times, like Boston when I ran Lasts in
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, I did run two fifty again,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 3: and that's when we finished together. And you know, True
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 3: and I were talking about this too just the other
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 3: day because True at my son. He's going for the
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 3: Olympic Trials qualifier in the marathon, which means he needs
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 3: to run quicker than a two sixteen. So we were
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: talking about this and it's just my training and even
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 3: his training because I'm not a coach and I don't know.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 3: I just run to get in shape for bow hunting. Okay,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not a pro. But and I had
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 3: him run and he's very talented, but I didn't know
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 3: how to coach him either. So he hired a real coach.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 3: And when you start getting into this marathon training and
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 3: specifics of it and why you do certain certain exercises
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 3: and why they're certain stimulus from I mean, I just
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 3: had the winner of the Gene Marathon on my podcast
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: and we did a really fast run. We ran a
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: five oh six mile, which I had never done at
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: mile seven of an eight mile run, and then he said, Okay,
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 3: his name's Jack Sidel. He's like an amazing athlete, has
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 3: fourteen hundred followers, which is kind of crazy that this
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: amazing talented people have a small amount of following, but
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 3: their talent is incredible. So he wanted I ran with
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 3: him just the other day and he said, oh, I
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: need to do eight one hundred meter strides, which is
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: simple essentially sprinting. After we ran super hard eight miles,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: climbed three thousand or two thousand foot mountain and did
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 3: this fast pace, but he still had to get the
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 3: stimulus needed for what he's asking his body to do,
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 3: which is qualified for the Olympics.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: So the stimulus is what I've never done before. I've
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 3: never got on the track and did it. All I
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 3: ever did was just go run.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: I just run.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 3: It's what I do. It's like how do I move
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 3: this needle in the right direction in a positive way.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: I got to put in work. How I'd put in
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 3: work was I'd go run mile after a mile after
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: mile some days, twenty miles a day, because I felt
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: like that was a noble sacrifice for me and achieving
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 3: what goals I wanted, which was bow hunting related not
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: racing related well with true at taking on this Olympic
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: Trials qualifier journey. He's been doing the stimulus. Hired a
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: coach and like, hey, Dad, you need to do this
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: type of stuff. You know, you get on the track.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't think you need to get on track to
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: run twenty six miles quick, but you do because you
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 3: need the stimulus.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: For your body.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: I had never done any of that. I had never
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: got enough sleep. I would sleep, you know, if I
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: was gonna do a marathon a day and still be
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 3: at work ten hours a day, I'd have to get
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: up at start at two forty five am. And I did,
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: and sometimes I wouldn't go to bed until midnight. I
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 3: didn't care about sleep. You'd have doctor Matthew Walker on here,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: I'd say, fuck that dork, I'm not listening to sleep.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: It's like I don't need sleep. I can still perform.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 3: Look at I just ran twenty six miles yesterday on
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: two hours of sleep. But I wasn't performing at my
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: best because I had to overcome my body fatigue. So
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 3: for decades, I would work. Didn't miss a day of
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 3: work in twenty six years, never called in sick once.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 3: Always get my miles in, always get my work done.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: I was leading the cruise. People relied on me to
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: be a good leader. I had to be there. I
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: had still put in this work. I would not get
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: any sleep. My body was so depleted. I still did
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 3: everything I needed to do at the highest level I could.
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 3: Turns out, the highest level I could given those circumstances
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 3: was a two fifty marathon. All right, So I required
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 3: three or I mean I retired three years ago. Now
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 3: I'm getting sleep. Now I'm doing sauna cold punts. I get,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: you know, I spend let's see, spend two thousand bucks
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 3: a month on massage and body work. And now with
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: more specific training like last year I ran with Truett.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: He ran two thirty eight in Boston, two thirty four.
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: E Gene, we want to on a run. Right before that,
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 3: he said dad, I can't keep up with you. You
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 3: you should be going for the sub to two thirty.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: He was trying to break two thirty. He goes, you
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 3: should be going for the sub two thirty. Your faster
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: than me. So this was last year, but then I
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: got hurt. So last year I was going to break
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: this same record. This year, I've been healthy. I knew
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: I was going to get my fastest time ever. I
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: put up a post and I said, pr or er,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: I'm either getting a personal record, I'm going to the
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 3: emergency room, I'm sending it. So i'd said pr er,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: and I got a pr I got two thirty nine
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: to eleven, one of the fastest ever for a fifty
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: eight year old. And it's like that caused people to
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: pay attention, which I get. It's a very fast marathon
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: for somebody almost sixty years old. But you have to
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: look at the full picture and say, like this wasn't
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 3: some just guy who just started running been running. I
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 3: had been running since I'm five years old. I'm fifty eight.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: I was running, pushing myself at five, running further than
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: any other kid in school, winning in awards. That was
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 3: fifty three years ago. Okay, I've been doing this while
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 3: I haven't been training specifically because I didn't care. And
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 3: so this guy said, oh, have you know he's like
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 3: mad that I was so fast. He's talked about True.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: I don't and I'm trying to be nice, to be positive,
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 3: so I'm not going to say his name. I'm not gonna.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: I understand people who want to protect clean sport. I
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: applaud you, Sada, I applaud Wada, I applaud clean sports.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's required for Olympic athletes to get there,
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: just due.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 3: He said, you know, he's talked about True, which he's
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 3: already on my radar because I remember true It said, Hey,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: there's this the elite guy who's saying that I'm dishonoring
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: the marathon because I have no chance of getting the standard.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, I said who, And he said, is
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: that dishonoring the marathon?
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 3: Because he was saying, like, True is so far away
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: from his time that it was unrealistic to even put
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: that as a goal. My my point was, he's a runner,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: just like you. He has a big dream, just like
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: you had. Why shit on his dream? Somebody says that
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: that this dream they want to do it, you're around.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: To be dishonorable, to have a lofty ambition that doesn't
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: even make sense.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 3: That was just words. The words are associated because he's
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 3: my son. So that's all the amount of too. But
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 3: he was on my radar for that because Truett told
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 3: me and I said who, and I hadn't didn't even
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: really know who it was, looked him up. I'm just like, yeah,
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: fuck whatever, so anyway I knew the name. Well, he
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: comes on my page after this and he says something
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 3: like he dug up this old post from like twenty eleven,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 3: which is still up there, and it talked about the
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: shit I was taken from is like Complete Nutrition, which
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 3: is like GNC, and it was you know if you
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 3: go to G and C, like you know, mask Gainer
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: two thousands, Like everything seems like it's a steroid. It's
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: over the counter. It's not fucking steroids. You can't buy
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: steroids over the counter. Everything that on that thing that
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 3: I was doing us sponsored by Complete Nutrition, all over
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 3: the counter supplements. It's like, there's no fucking EPO on here.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 3: It's like what the people try to make it sound like.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 3: It was just shit that I was lifting weights. This
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 3: from fifteen years ago, twenty eleven. It's a blog post.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 3: He still has it. Yeah, it's like I said, prading
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 3: around like a trophy. It's like fucking's over the counter
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 3: or whatever. So he said, I said, are you still
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: talking about that? This is like late at night. I
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: was kind of irritated. Didn't don't guy irritates me anyway.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 3: So he said, could you pass a you saw a
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 3: drug test? And I said, I have no idea. There's
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with me. I don't give a fuck.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 3: Probably not though, because I I didn't actually I didn't
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 3: even know. But I know it's very restrictive. And I've
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 3: had a lot of Olympians and things on my show.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 3: We don't talk about the drug test stuff. We're just
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 3: like we just go running.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: Well, what stuff would you take had you taken that
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: wouldn't allow you to pass a drug test? The stuff
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: you're taking now? Like, what supplements can you not take?
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: Because it's a lot of stuff that people just take
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: normally that you can't take. Well. Peptides are one of them, right.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: Certain peptides. Certain I think you can take certain ones,
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 3: but I don't even know because I I had never
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 3: looked at the list I tried to with this when
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: this came up.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the other thing is a lot of
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: people fail just by taking supplements because there's third party
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: there's contamination of supplements. Yeah, that's that's what happens to
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: Sugarshan O'Malley Fostering. It's happened to you know, a lot
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: of athletes with this.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: Most of the stuff that you would buy, like a
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: GNC probably an olympian couldn't take or they'd have to
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: check it out. Couldn't right, because it's like how clean
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 3: is the lab? How you know susceptible is to contamination.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 3: So a lot of them like they're thinking about this
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 3: shit every day, like it's their whole life. If they
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: get if they pop hot, their career is over.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's it's a huge idea of Jordan Burrows
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: in here and he wouldn't even try kill Cliff CBD
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: drink right. It's like, I don't think I could take this. Well.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: I had Cheeto on my show and I said, hey,
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: you want to try a key tone? He's like, I
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 3: don't know. So he called Jeff Novinski and he said,
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 3: could I take this keytone IQ, and Jeff said, well,
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: depends on what batch has approved. So the batch of
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 3: the keytne IQ that was made has to be approved.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: The other batch might not be approved, so you could
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 3: fail from that other batch. I didn't know any of
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 3: that shit, but he called him right right before we
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 3: did it, so he didn't take it. It's just like
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 3: so there's things like that where it's just it's NonStop.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I can take this. There's that
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 3: I've never been in that position because I'm I just
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: run to bow hunt. I've never looked at these lists.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 3: I've never done anything, but a lot of stuff that
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 3: you know, pseudo fed is on there. ADHD medicine is
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 3: on there. You can't take or you have to get
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: what they call a therapeutic use exemption. So say if
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: you were a regular guy and you had low testosterone
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: and you wanted to do TRT, you could get that
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: approved through a therapeutic use exemption.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: That's very interesting. Through doctor you can run in the
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: marathon with a therapeutic use exemption of testosterone, which is
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: a legitimate performance enhancing.
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, theoretically, I don't know if they'd have to look
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: at your numbers and where you're at and like if
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: this was real.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you're supposed to take a very specific amount. Like
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: this was the issue with the UFC when the UFC
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: had TUE s. Yeah, and they had TRTV tour, those
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: those days when guys were taking like large amounts of
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: that shit. And that's actually what stopped the program is
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: that people started testing like off the fucking charge the
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: testosterone and they realized like, Okay, these guys are straight
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: up juicing.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: So but if you're a sixty year old person and
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: you want to run the marathon and you're on testosterone,
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: it's legal.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it and it should be.
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 3: The TUE thing is still probably abused in some ways
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: because we know these doctor patient relationships. You can say, hey,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: I want to do this, can you make it sound
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 3: like this?
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: Right of course, and that's going to be the case.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not even I'm not even talking. All I'm saying
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: is like for and I've talked to Olympians about this
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 3: situation because I want to make sure I understand it right.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 3: It's like if if I'm as a regular citizen, so
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 3: there's nine thousand runners in the Eugene Marathon. Are we
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: all going to be held to the standard of Olympic athletes?
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: That's right? Are they testing everybody in the ug Marathon?
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: They didn't test anybody anybody, So there's there's prize money
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: that that's paid out. There's Olympic Trials qualifying standards which
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 3: are met. So now you're in the Olympic Trials. And
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 3: I don't want to shoot on the Eugene Marathon because
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 3: these small, smaller marathons, they don't have the money to
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 3: be testing nine thousand people or probably these tests are expensive.
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 3: So there there's something too, like if it's a USATF
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 3: so the United States of America Track and Field Association,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 3: if it's one of those events and it's for like
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 3: a world championship or it's for like a team position,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: I get it, and it does need to be for
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 3: the Eugene Marathon with nine thousand people, it's not realistic
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: to say we're going to drug test everybody, or if
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 3: you're taking whatever, you need a therapy peutic use exemption,
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 3: because do you think you soda could review say if
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 3: people are taking three or four different medications times nine thousand,
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 3: they don't have the resource to go through all those
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: tue s, right, it's not realistic, So there should be,
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, two categories. You got your regular runners,
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 3: which I'm in, and you got your elites, which are
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 3: susceptible to this drug testing and these requirements. And that's
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: totally fair and I get that, and it's kind of
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: why I've waded into this and said I'll be the
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 3: poster boy for this. I'll admit that I took BPC
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 3: one five seven to try to avoid searcherry on my
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 3: foot and whichever years ago, and whatever the fallout, right,
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 3: whatever the fallout is, is what it is, because this
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 3: needs to be discussed because I talk to all these
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: regular people who are doing all this stuff just to
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: be healthy, to enjoy something that they love, which is
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: running or competing in races, and everybody like on the
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: other side, on you know, say the clean sports side,
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: which I am on that side too, trust me, I
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 3: want clean sport. But they're like saying that, like my
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: time was so fast, it's almost into this. They talk
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 3: about this age graded thing where like this guy who
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 3: brought it up said age grade, Like, so what that
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: I think is what that looks at is like in
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: my prime. If I ran at two thirty nine at
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 3: age fifty eight, what was my potential when I was
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 3: in my prime?
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 3: And it would be super fast, like you know, like
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 3: world like two ten or twelve, which would have won
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: the Olympics back when I was twenty five, you know
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 3: what I mean. So I understand why my time is
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: just like I'm almost too fast as a regular citizen
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 3: to It's kind of like this gray area like should
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 3: he be tested or whatever? But all I'm saying like
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 3: if the rule is to test, or if I know
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 3: the rules, I'm down, dude, I'm I'm all for it.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: That's why I've been so transparent about what I've taken,
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 3: what I've done, and what I was trying to avoid
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: with the surgery.
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: But it's also there's an important point about the sign
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: up thing for the Eugene Marathon. If there's if you're
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 1: supposed to not take certain supplements, that's supposed to be
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: stated in the marathon sign up, right.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's not yeah, and I don't. I've
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: never I hardly look at that. But there's now after
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 3: all this, I looked at the waivers because you know,
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 3: you saw it has been they send me two really
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 3: nice emails, just levely emails that I haven't responded to,
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 3: and they they're trying to do the best they can.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 3: But if these waivers say, I looked at the waiver
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: for I did two races this year Eugene Marathonic cocad
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: on A two fifty, and the way mentioned liability and
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 3: insurance things. Doesn't mention anything about USATF for drug testing
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 3: or any of these requirements. There's no mention of it.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: But also what the thing that doesn't make any sense is,
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: first of all, BBC one five to seven is not
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: a performance enhancing subjects. Yeah, what it helps heal soft
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: tissue injuries. It's very good for recovery from injuries. That
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: was That's one issue. The other issue is it was
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: two fucking years ago. There's no way that's affecting you
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: in this year's Eugene Marathon. No long out of your system.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: It's a smoke screen, you know, we've talked about smoke
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 3: screens here.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: What he's doing is basically he's accusing you because you
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 1: took BBC one five to seven, and he's saying you're
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: lying about doing all these other things.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 3: I've been called a liar. A cheater, a doper, stealings.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, but it's all fine.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: But this is essentially what we were talking about earlier. Yeah,
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier about people that are outliars
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: that are like super successful and they build folk. That
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: guy that got cheat, that guy there's that got that
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: same fucking thing. Yeah, this guy can't appreciate that. Here's
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: a guy who was running a fucking marathon a day
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: while working an eight hour job. I was your friend,
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 1: then this is real. I know you did this. I
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 1: was always telling you to quit your job. Yeah, that
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: was the first guy telling you quit that fucking job.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: You're killing yourself. I was worried about you because I
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: know that your mind is so strong that you were
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: willing to push your body to the point where it
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: could actually fail. And willpower is really important. Having a
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: strong will will get you through so much in life
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: that other people will not be able to pass. They
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: will not be able to break through. But will could
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: also get killed, you know, and it could also ruin
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: your life. You could hurt yourself to the point, you know,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: you hurt your back or something to the point where
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: you never recover, it never comes back, like you have to.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: There's like a fine line between mental toughness and just
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: being able to see the big picture and go, it's
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: actually smart to not be tough here, and it's not
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: to deny my toughness. I gotta know that I am
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: tough and have confidence in my toughness enough to give
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 1: my body a break and rest myself. And that's why
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: I was always worried about you, because you were doing
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: things with no fucking sleep, and I saw it. I
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: know you did it. I watched that guy's not doing this,
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: and you have to understand that the kind of willpower
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: that a guy like you has, or a guy like
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: Goggins has, where he can do things people go no
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: one could do that. The fuck they can't. Like how
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: many UFC fighters have you seen go and trained with
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 1: Goggins and they're like Israel Adisnia, world champion, world class
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: guy throwing up at a fucking garbage can't keep up
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 1: with him. Tony Ferguson, like who is known in the
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: MMA world for fucking superhuman endurance. Tony Ferguson would just
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: walk people down in his problem. He was el Ka Koui.
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: He was the fucking booky man because he never got tired,
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: And even if you heard him, it didn't matter. Who's
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: gonna recover and come back after he was coming for
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: your fucking soul. That guy was breaking down. Everybody breaks down,
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: and it's he's doing it in silence. No one even
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: knows who's doing it, with no music. He's doing it
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 1: by himself. No one's pushing him. He's a fucking full
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: on psychopath. They are real. There's real people out there
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: that are really living like that. This guy should look
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: at that and take inspiration from it. But he's got
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: these ideological differences with you because he's a vegan and
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: because he thinks hunting is cruel and you're an asshole
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: and you're killing animals, and meanwhile he needs to eat
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: one of them helping bear sticks. Give me another one,
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: I want another one. Fucking awesome. They're great, But it's
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: just it's just what we're talking about. It's if you
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: and that guy actually had a conversation, thank you. If
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: you and that guy actually had a conversation and you
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: were civil and there was no cameras and it was
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 1: just two human beings having a conversation, I guarantee you
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: probably have way more in common than you do not,
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, outside of the ideological differences about hunting and
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: veganism and maybe a lack of understanding about what even
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: veganism entails. But because most of it entails large scale
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: monocrop agriculture, if you're just buying plants, you are responsible
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: for the death of a fucking countless number of creatures.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 1: Fact end of especially if you start talking about bees
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: and avocados and almonds. Oh meaning amends, I'm healthy. You
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: fucking killed one hundred billion bees? All right? Stop? Yeah?
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: Outside of that, what are you both doing. You're both
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: pushing yourself to the limits of your ability. And maybe
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: if that guy had a bear stick or till you
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: had some real protein, he'd have a better time. Well,
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: I mean too, right, Yeah, I need some real protein.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 3: I am friends with a lot of people just like
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 3: him and belief and like on the political spectrum or
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 3: even the diet spectrum, and it hasn't affected our friendship
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 3: at all, because what I focus on is what do
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 3: we have in common. We love the mountains, we love
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 3: we love to push ourselves. I don't need to align
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 3: with everybody one hundred percent. So I'm I'm friends with
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: tons of liberal people and love them. It's like, has
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with anything. It's a but for him.
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 3: You know, I was on the radar for a few
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 3: different reasons. This gave him like the reason why like
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 3: BPC one five seven is banned for Olympians, not for
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 3: a regular person. We regular people can take it. So
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, he's like, do you know what the
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 3: rules are? And I'm like, I don't give a fuck
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 3: about the rules. So then he turned that into like
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 3: he doesn't care about the rules. He's going to do
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 3: everything anything he wants. I'm like, you know, I don't
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 3: care about rules that don't apply to me. I'm just like, whatever,
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 3: So the rules that apply.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: To me are is this rule?
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 3: And it's like, if you want to talk about rules,
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 3: I follow rules, Like I talked about purchasing. You know,
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 3: when I was the buyer at my old job for
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 3: twenty years, I had to go buy laws and rules
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 3: every day, and so I respect that if it has
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 3: to do with me, if it like affects me, I'm like, okay,
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 3: I understand it. Well, this one, you start bringing up
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 3: these USATF sanctions and what I need to know when
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 3: I sign a waiver for a race and I look
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 3: at the waiver, and the waiver doesn't mention anything about this.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 3: This says if the USTF sanctioned event is you know,
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 3: if we're talking drug testing, It says related published materials
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 3: must contain the following language. So when I see that
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 3: it says it must contain the following language in my
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 3: contract days, I'm like, well, that didn't say should or
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: didn't say may, because should in may means it doesn't
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 3: have to. When it says must, it must. So it
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 3: says it must say this athlete who participate in this
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 3: in this competition may be subjected to formal drug testing
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 3: in accordance with you. Blah blah blah blah. So basically
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 3: it has to have this language and it has to
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: spell out exactly what it is. Their rules, their own
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: rules say it must be included. I've never seen this language.
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: It was never included anything that I've agreed to with
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: these in regard to these races.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: So there's no responsibility to go to the website and
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 1: find out what the standards are if they had even
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: if they had a link like okay, right, and so
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 1: if they said, if you are going to race, you
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: must be held to the standards of this race, right,
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: you can go visit them on this web.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 3: That's fine. I would be like, oh, that was my bad.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't do that. They never mentioned it. So if
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: somebody said, like I didn't know BPC was banned for
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 3: Olympians at all before this, I just thought that it
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 3: was another maybe you could get a TUE for or
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know what tue was. But because I
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 3: just it's not my world. My world is bow hunting.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 3: I just try to get in as good shape as
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: Not trying to do it for money. You're not doing it.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 3: I've never won money. I've never been on a national team.
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 3: If I wanted to be, if that was what I
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 3: was going to do, I would know everything about the rules,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 3: everything about what I could take or what I couldn't take.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't take THHC, you know. I mean
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 3: they say you can take it, but not on the
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 3: day of competition. So you know how long THHG is
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 3: in your system? Yeah, so you took it the day
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 3: before but you didn't. But you're still going to test
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 3: run high.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 3: As long as that lasts in your system, how are
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 3: they going to prove if you took it that morning.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: Well, they would have to be able to test your
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: levels right after you race, and they could determine whether
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: or not you're actually intoxicated during the race. That's how
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 1: Nick Diaz got popped. Oh really Tackinri Gomi. They said
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: his fucking levels were off the charts, and that was
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 1: probably I don't believe it was. I believe that was.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: I think that was Pride, and I think it was
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: the first time that Pride had an event in the
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: United States, and they had it in Vegas. I believe.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: See if that's that's right, it was a long time ago.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: I want to say, this is God. I want to say,
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 1: like two thousand and five, it was big win when
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 1: Nick beat Takanori Gomi. Takanori Gomi was one of the
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 1: big stars over in Pride and Nick he got him
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: with a go go plata, which is a crazy submission
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: off your back when you use the shin against the
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: guy's neck and you're grabbing your foot from behind his
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: head and god nasty. But uh, they said he was
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: off the charts, sat his eyes a kite when he
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: was fighting, which I fucking love. Yeah, but you're not
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: allowed to do that, and I think for good reasons,
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be allowed. But look, the
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: the the reality of these drug tests are is that
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 1: if you're saying to a person that you can't take
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: it the day of the competition, and they're a regular user,
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're gonna have a lot of THC in
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: their system, right, they just are. And also you could
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 1: you could take a very high dose of edibles the
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: day before a race and you would still be intoxicate
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: in the day of the race.
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 3: That's so what year was this?
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: Apparently the commission felt the level which Diaz tested at
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: one seventy five was a considering factor in his performance
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: during the fight. Doctor Tony Alamo, the commission's chair, said
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 1: that so it was Nevada. A result of fifteen is
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: considered positive, but Nevada State Athletic Commission has a threshold
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: of fifty test positive for THHC. They feel very comfortable
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: that everybody that tests positive in Nevada is truly positive.
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: Mister Diaz was one seventy five. This creates a unique situation.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: I was there at the fight. I believe you were
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: intoxicated and that it made you numb to the pain.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: Did it help you win? I think it did. I
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: don't you know. Listen, Diaz is going to be numb
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 1: to the pain anyway. He's one of the toughest fucking
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: dude that's ever lived. Yeah, I don't know if you
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: can make that argument that would help you win. I
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 1: think it probably relaxed him. He likes it. You know.
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: He probably could go out there high and fight more
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: in his element. But he could fight in his element anyways.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: He was one of the best fighters on earth at
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: the time. He's a world class fighter. The idea that
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: that helped him win is like, yeah, prove it. It's
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: just prove it. He was beating everybody anyway.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 3: It's a stretch. It's like, I just don't think that
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: we need to be opening the Pandora's box to testing
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 3: nine thousand people or having them you know, like, well.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: It's also be realistic about what you're saying, because what
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 1: you're saying is if all you did was take that drug, Uh,
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: it's not even a drug. Take that peptide in twenty
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: twenty four for a broken foot. There's no fucking chance
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: that helped you win a marathon two years later. It
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: does not help other than the fact that it helped
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: to heal your broken foot. That's not performance enhancing, its not.
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: But this guy's kind of a hater, not even kind of,
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: he's a hater. It was which I understand.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I admitted that I took it,
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 3: and it's like at that and actually that night, I
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 3: remember I didn't even know when that was. I fucking
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: can't remember when I go went to waste well, it's
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 3: like I thought it was like six months ago. I
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 3: couldn't even fucking remember. So then I got ahold of him.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 3: I said, no, I need you know the details of
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 3: my treatment, and it you know, it was in November
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, and I'm like okay, well but anyway,
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 3: that night, I said, yeah, I've done stem cell, I've
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 3: done TRT before, and mentioned BPC one five to seven,
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 3: and it's like I didn't know when that was. But
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 3: I just kind of because he was like coming at me,
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, no, fuck offs, like I do all this.
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's proved or not. It doesn't
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 3: has nothing to do with me. I'm not any elite athlete.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 3: I'm fucking bowhunter. So I was like kind of wanted
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 3: to just let's shit on him at that time. Well,
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 3: he got what he needed because admitting to taking BPC
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 3: for like Olympian is a huge deal because it's banned
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: just for them, not for me, and that then he
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 3: could go to you saw it and say, oh, this
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 3: guy took a band and they're you know now, they're
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 3: like it sucks. It's like they're in a position where
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like so much the public
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 3: knows about it so much. It's like, you know, I
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 3: got articles about me and talking about all this crazy shit,
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, I'm just trying to not have
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 3: two or three surgeries. It's just like I'm not trying
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 3: to win a fucking my age category eight of marathon.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 3: And then they'll turn it into like, well, that's not
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 3: fair to the other people who are performing. It's just
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 3: like it's not we don't even know who's what people
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 3: are taking. It's like I'm not even in this field,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: of this elite field where this is all I did
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 3: was admit I was truthful. Everybody else just lies.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe maybe lies, maybe doesn't. But the point
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: is a giant percentage of people right now are taking
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: peptides because they're very beneficial to help heal injuries. And
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 1: if you're going to run marathons like the way you
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: run them with very fast times, you're probably training really hard.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: If you're training really hard, you're probably gonna get injured. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: it's just but it's a hater thing, is what it is.
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 1: Or Yeah, he's accusing you of lying, which I know
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: you're not a liar, but so this is the thing
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: he's he's attacking your character. But it's also the fact
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: that you know that quote that I love. All criticism
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: is the tragic result of unmet needs. This guy's an
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: elite athlete. No one knows who he is. Yeah, you know,
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: that's part of the problem. And then with someone who's
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 1: very popular is creeping in on his times, like that's like,
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: how how's that possible? He's eighteen years older than me.
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 1: Fuck this guy. No one ever wants to think that
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: someone actually works harder than them.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 3: No, no, or yeah, I mean and I get that.
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm a human too, I understand how that
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 3: can happen. But like to call me like a dope
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 3: or kind of discredit everything I've done, it's just like
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 3: it's so not even real.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: The approach to use is to just be honest, lay
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: it all out and leave it alone. Yeah. I don't
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: think like going after this guy and talking a lot
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: of shit is in any way beneficial. I don't.
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 3: I don't want I want him. I want everyone to succeed.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 3: I don't have anything personal against this guy. I didn't
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 3: like he was talking shit about true, I didn't, But.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 1: Even that, it's just hater aide. He just sees running
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: with those fucking perfect genes on and looking all handsome.
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: He's also a little too buffed to be a marathon runner,
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: which drives people nuts too. Yeah, and then he also
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: won the World pull Up Challenge. Like, look, when someone
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: breaks the world record and pull ups, that isn't a
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: fucking extraordinary human being, period. And for you to discredit
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: that person in marathon running after they've done that, well
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 1: you're a fool, because this isn't just a regular person, right,
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: This is a person who broke the world fucking record
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: for chin ups or pull ups. Yeah, that's a crazy
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 1: thing to do, to do thousands of pull ups in
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours, Rip your fucking hands to shreds. Yeah,
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 1: that's an extraordinary person. For him to not recognize that
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 1: he's being a bitch. Yeah, which is fine. It's a
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: natural characteristic that a lot of human beings have, Yeah,
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: and especially ones that are not getting their needs met
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: in terms of the attention they feel they deserve, and
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 1: who are ideologically opposed to you because you're a hunter.
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 3: What the the traction he's got is because it's almost like,
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 3: if you say, you know how, some people would say, oh,
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 3: you're interested in border security, like protecting the border? Racist?
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: Right, right? Racist, You're a Nazi, right, You're a cheater.
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 3: So to say that I'm a cheater or a doper,
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 3: you don't have to say anything else because then it's like, oh,
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 3: that guy. So now I'm kind of tainted by with
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 3: that language when the fact of the matter is this
• 2:40:32
  Speaker 3: is years ago. I don't take any I mean, I
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 3: take plenty, like fish oil, magnesium, all this other bullshit
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 3: trace gives me. But like the level of doping I
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 3: know about, I don't know shit, I don't even I
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 3: don't know ep I know we've talked about this before,
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 3: but I don't even know really what a EPO does
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 3: other than make like more red blood cells or something.
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 3: So there's more oxygen. But I'm so like illiterate on
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 3: performance and like peds, I'm just like, I don't. I
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 3: don't even take testosterone anymore because I run better low,
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 3: which is weird. And I didn't know if this happened
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 3: because they say when you run like long distances, extreme
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 3: long distances, your testosterone drops. I almost think that's by
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: design because I look at like how these women have
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 3: been performing at these huge races with low testosterone and
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 3: higher estrogen, they perform better. And so I'm just like, man,
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 3: maybe I don't need the TRT. Maybe, And so I
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 3: haven't like I had I had, I got a prescription
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 3: field like last September, and I still have four of
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 3: the things out of ten. And anybody who's a doper,
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 3: they don't got dope sitting around like if you had
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 3: you know, if I don't care if it's meth or
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 3: fucking testosterone. If you have it, you take it if
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 3: you're doper. Right, So I haven't done it because I'm
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 3: I operate better with a low heart rate, low testosterone,
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 3: and I can run but.
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 1: In low body weight too, that's a big Well.
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like one forty eight is what I got
• 2:42:07
  Speaker 3: down to. What are you right now, like fifty two.
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: Wow. When I met you, you were in the eighties.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just lifting. I just I always ran,
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 3: but I'll run like five miles a day, and I
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 3: wanted to be like I thought, like for hunting, I
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 3: needed more muscle to perform because I need to carry
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 3: heavy loads and things like that. Now I've realized that
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 3: I'm better with extreme endurance and I'm still strong for
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 3: like one forty eight, still very strong compared to like
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 3: a normal one forty eight. So I'm still able to
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 3: do the task I need to do, carry heavy loads
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 3: when I kill.
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 1: You've optimized, Yeah, so well this is the big factors
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 1: the weight, because I'm pretty heavy. Yeah, And I notice
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 1: the difference, you know, like I've lost when I hunted
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 1: a few years back. I got down to the one
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 1: nineties early one night, like like one one ninety three,
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: and I felt a lighter. Yeah, Like you would think
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 1: ten pounds because writing weigh two o two this morning,
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: you would think ten pounds is not that big of
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 1: a deal. It's a big deal. Yeah, it's a big
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 1: When I work out and I put a twenty five
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: pound weight best on, Yeah, it's amazing how much harder
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: it is to do chin ups and push ups and dips.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, and it's only twenty five pounds. And
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: you think about how many people just normally carry twenty
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: five extra pounds. You're walking around all day with a
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 1: weight best on you know.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 3: Well, and I've told truth this too. It's like he's heavier.
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 3: But every guy lining up to run the Olympic Trials
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 3: qualifier or like when they run the Olympic Trials for
• 2:43:36
  Speaker 3: the marathon, there won't be anybody over like one forty, so.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: I said, which totally makes sense. You're fighting gravity.
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you got to be light. Yeah, so
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 3: I said, you can't be one sixty and compete.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 1: What is he at now? He's like fifty eight, and
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 1: what is he trying to get down to?
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 3: He's got to be in the forties. Got to be
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 3: like one forty.
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, guy, he's gonna look like skeletor the.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 3: Guy the guy who I just ran with. You ran
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 3: you gene and set the course record and all that.
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 3: He's one thirty five. It's probably like six'. One. Whoa
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 3: that's just the name of the, game, right you like
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 3: The East africans super. Light the guy who just broke
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 3: the world record of the. Marathon he's like one thirty
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 3: five or, no, no one. Fifteen, geez a tiny little.
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 1: Guy so it's like makes.
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 3: Sense that's just that's just, performance, right that's just what it.
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 3: Takes a huge, engine a light, body, right and uh
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 3: so like to pay me this way WHEN i was
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 3: turning avoid to. Surgery haven't TAKEN bpc since. Then it's
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 3: just it's kind of.
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 1: JUST i think all you can do is state your,
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 1: case AND i think you just, did and you just
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 1: did it really. Well AND i know you AND i
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 1: can speak for. You you are as honest to human
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 1: being As i've ever met in my. Life you don't
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: lie about, anything and you. Are and it's also why
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: you work so. Hard you work so hard so you
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: don't have to. LIE i, mean you're you're an insanely hard.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 3: WORKER i. DIDN'T i didn't lie about this. EITHER i
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 3: mean that's WHAT i just. Said YEAH i. DID i
• 2:45:00
  Speaker 3: didn't remember, when but good looked it. Up here's when it. Was.
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: Whatever, yeah this guy's got to get over. It maybe
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: you should have a conversation with him on keep hammer and.
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 3: Collective, YEAH i MEAN i DON'T i would talk to
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 3: talk to. ANYBODY i, don't you, KNOW i talk to
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 3: people who feel differently than me all the.
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 4: Time.
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 1: People there's there's also a problem where people don't know
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 1: someone and they don't communicate with, them and so you
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: kind of form a narrative and then you fight that.
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: Narrative you, know you attack that, narrative you attack a
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 1: creation of who the person is rather than the actual.
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 1: Person and people like to do that because they like
• 2:45:32
  Speaker 1: to turn someone into a demon, yea you, know they
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: like to turn someone to an not even a. Person
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 1: that's how people have to do that with. War they
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 1: love to do that with.
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 3: It, relieve it's easy to garner support with. Keywords using
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 3: keywords that nobody could. Defend would be, like, okay we got,
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 3: that that'll work right. There and so that's where you,
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 3: know the nazi or the, doper the. Racist that's why
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 3: those words are always out.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 1: There.
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 3: Yep it's like because they're.
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: Powerful, Exactly that's.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 3: Exactly and when you you, know when you get boxed
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 3: in a, corner you can use those words and ad
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 3: buys you some.
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 1: Time, yeah there's, that and then there's also you, know
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that don't have a good personal.
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 1: Insight they don't understand what they're. Doing, really they think
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 1: they're justified in what they're. Doing, really it's just a
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: bunch of bitchy.
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 3: Bullshit one thing THAT i, DID i think part of
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 3: THIS i don't want to be demonized, about like with the,
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 3: peptides because it shouldn't be. Demonized but one, THING i
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people because as you, said a
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 3: lot of people are taking these, peptides a lot of
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 3: people are doing THE trt. STUFF i think that there
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 3: was a big shift WHEN covid happened as far as
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 3: distrust in the HEALTH i mean basically our health and wellness,
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 3: category like it started maybe With. Obamacare people are having
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 3: trouble getting in their. Doctor doctors quit because it's too.
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 3: Frustrating so people we've had a hard time getting medical
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 3: treatment like to be, healthy and THEN covid happened and
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 3: then they were of and, down you, know the vaccine
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 3: down our throats and turned out like it wasn't as
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 3: safe and effective as they. Said SO i think people
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 3: like they see that the writing was on the. Wall
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 3: they couldn't get into their. Doctor the doctor was like
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 3: just writing. Prescriptions so then the wellness clinics popped, up,
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 3: right and it feels like it was AFTER covid for,
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 3: now like you got to waste too Well and there's
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 3: other places like it where you can go in and
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 3: they care about how you. Feel they want you to
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 3: they want to help you feel, better like live like
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 3: an optimized, life like you're, old but you don't have
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 3: to feel. Old and so they're like they can do
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 3: the blood, panel where getting a blood planel at your
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 3: regular doctor was like pulling. Teeth for a, while it's, like,
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 3: no we don't need to do, that but you go
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 3: to a wellness, clinic they'll do it and they'll tell, you,
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 3: yeah you're deficient here this this or, that we could add,
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 3: this we could try. This and then also you start
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 3: to feel better and you're, like, well these people care
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 3: about my. Health the, doctor what did he care about writing?
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 3: Prescriptions and then.
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 1: The doctors they're playing a totally different, game as we
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 1: could see from that hospital video that we just.
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 3: Watched, Right so is no wonder that waste wells and
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 3: like these these other treatments maybe bypassing surgery and let's
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 3: try this. PEPTILE i see that it's kind of evolving
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 3: and it's, changing and the sport of ultra needs to,
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 3: also and running needs to be on board with that
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 3: because most of your field aren't elites and aren't, olympians,
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 3: Right they're regular people who just are trying to do
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 3: what they enjoy and that's.
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 1: Me while they're working a full time, job most of. Them, yeah,
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 1: WELL i think you laid your case out AND i
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 1: got to, Pee so let's wrap this bad boy up
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 1: and bring it. Home congratulations on your bear. Hunt you
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 1: got two giant. Monsters oh, yeah we Got john And. Jen,
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 1: yeah shout out To john And Jen. Rivett. Yeah i'm
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 1: gonna try to come next. YEAR i. SWEAR i love those.
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 3: Guys love those.
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 1: GUYS i love that place they have up there. Too it's.
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: Crazy and for people who don't know those these these
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 1: bear have no natural predators other than. Grizzlies they have
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: to be. Controlled they are devastating the moose and deer
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 1: and elk population up there because they kill all the.
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 1: Calves they they're ruthless, predators opportunistic. Hunters they eat each,
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 1: other just to put that in.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 3: Perspective In, alaska they're flying out of helicopters shooting. Bear,
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  Speaker 3: yeah because there's so Many i'm not enough for getting,
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  Speaker 3: killed so they wipe out all the. Ungulates, yeah so
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  Speaker 3: it's like it's an. Issue you just don't know about.
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 3: It you people don't know That alaska is flying the,
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  Speaker 3: helicopters is leaving bear after they kill, HIM.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 1: I, know and everybody thinks of. Bears Just Yogi yogi
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 1: and boo, boo and you, know come for a, trip
• 2:49:31
  Speaker 1: take a trip To. Alberta i'll show you some real. Shit, yeah,
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 1: YEAH i. Know it's remember when you Know i've told the.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 1: Story you, Know jen AND i ran into a grizzly
• 2:49:41
  Speaker 1: once when we're out, there just. Briefly we only saw it.
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 1: Briefly we're, like let's get the fuck out Of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah they don't even hunt over there anymore because too many.
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  Speaker 1: Grizzlies so that's, like it's.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy that's quite a way from where we hunt, now
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  Speaker 3: just because that crazy grizzly starts coming in the.
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 1: Bait, yeah that's got to get out of.
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 3: There, ESPECIALLY i like to sit on the, ground and
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 3: they need to start hunting them them up there, too
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 3: Do and you know this is the when they changed
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 3: that law IN.
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 1: Bc they made it a fucking disaster up. There there's
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 1: so many grizzly, now and it's just the people that
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 1: live in these high population areas that don't have any
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 1: encounters with. Them and there it's ballot box. Biology it's
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 1: people that they're trying to be good. People do you
• 2:50:18
  Speaker 1: want to outlaw trophy? Hunting? Yeah these cruel. Assholes they
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 1: just want to shoot this animal for its. Skin, yeah fuck.
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: Them they just want to show what a big man
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 1: they are by killing an. Animal like that guy calls
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 1: me a trophy. Hunter like he's like he's, like, OH
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 1: i understand deer and elk, hunting but not. Bear it's just, like,
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 1: well you don't know what did you just? Eat how
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 2:50:35
  Speaker 3: Bear how's that any different than deer and.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 1: Elk my daughter went to school one day and they
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 1: were asking what your favorite food, was and she said
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 1: bear candy Because Steve ranella taught me a recipe called bear.
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 1: Candy how to make, This like it's like a you
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 1: make it with brown sugar and you cook this bear
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 1: and it's like a sweet and sour pork kind of.
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 1: Deal but with, bear it was fucking, delicious AND i
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 1: served it for my kids and my daughter she was
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 1: just trying to like jostle people up a little.
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 3: Bit, well, Well jim makes some badass bear stir.
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 1: Fry oh it's. FANTASTIC i MEAN i would say her
• 2:51:09
  Speaker 1: bear meat is. FANTASTIC i was just thinking.
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 3: To, Myself mountainops has those new frieze dried. Meals MAYBE
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 3: i need.
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 1: To get, some right, dehydrated get some bear meat in.
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 3: There, yeah, yeah because those things are his own.
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 1: Food he does it all in a, dehydrator then rehydrates
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 1: it in. Camp he's vacuum seals his own. Stuff some
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: of those meals. Did, yeah what's the best way to
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: do it? Too if you want to eat, Clean if
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 1: you want to eat clean in the, mountains, oh you
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 1: get a dehydrator for that.
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 3: Energy because just like in ultras and, performing what you're
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 3: using for calories, matters so especially on a long, hunt
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 3: if you, can like we, HAD i had Some Mountain
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 3: ops uh freeze dried in, there like chicken off. Fredo
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  Speaker 3: that's just fucking, good good. Calories and also.
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 1: Electrolytes, BOY i it changed for me WHEN i started using,
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 1: Element WHEN i started throwing element my water WHEN i
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 1: was out, there giant. Difference get those, electrolytes that's the.
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 3: First THING i drink in the morning is an element
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i know them BECAUSE i run every.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 1: DAY i.
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 3: KNOW i Think i've been also like low on sodium
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 3: for a long time just because of how MUCH i.
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 3: Run for, sure LIKE i run so. Much LIKE i
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 3: get sores here because my shirt gets soaked with sweat
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 3: and wet clothes sitting on my skin makes all these
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 3: sores from running for hours and a wet.
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 1: Shirt that's. Crazy and so guys wear their nipples. Out
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 1: they have to put. That, yeah that.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 3: HAPPENED i wear AS i wear like a. Bra well
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 3: it's like a little running, pack but it holds my
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 3: shirt right there on my. Tits but this here bounces
• 2:52:39
  Speaker 3: and it's like just being.
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 1: Wet but that's. Crazy it's big sores on your skin
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: just from A t. Shirt it does just from being
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 1: just start running in, silk just from being.
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 3: Warm BUT i think THAT i was sweating so much
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 3: that WHEN i do that element first thing in the,
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 3: morning it sets me up for the whole day to
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 3: be able to perform at a higher.
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 1: Level even just some sea salt in your, water like you,
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 1: need you need. Minerals everybody does need. Electrolytes let's wrap it, Up,
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 1: yeah all, right my, BROTHER i love you to. Death youd,
• 2:53:09
  Speaker 1: awesome glad you're an opportunity to come on. Here and
• 2:53:12
  Speaker 1: this is all very important stuff to talk. About and,
• 2:53:14
  Speaker 1: uh one more. Time that number for EVERYBODY i want
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 1: to call that NUMBER.
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  Speaker 3: I, know call, you call your. Centers two zero two
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 3: two three four three one two one say Roadless rule
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 3: needs to stay. Intact Mike lee can suck a big
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 3: fat One.
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  Speaker 1: America fuck, yeah buy, everybody