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Heidi St. John: After The Election, Our Work Is Far From Over! · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Hey, friends.
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Thank you for tuning in.
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Fasten your seat belts.
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I have one of my dear friends from the left coast.
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One of the few Christians in Washington, no, I'm kidding.
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But anyway, Heidi St. John, Heidi St. John, we're going to catch up with her, talk about
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post-election stuff, and what do Christians need to do now?
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Heidi, welcome.
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Good to see you.
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Hey, it's good to see you.
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Thanks for having me.
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You're welcome, and you recently moved again, you're in your new house.
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There, I see a different background.
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Yes.
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Yeah, it's a different background.
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We're out here in the great state of Washington and the city of Camus, up on a mountain, so we
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love it up here.
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It's great.
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What happened with Washington state?
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Were there any ballot measures that I didn't keep track of what was going on there?
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Yeah, well, I think the big news out of Washington state is the Republican Party lost bigly, as
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Donald Trump would say.
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One of the few states, if you look at the, there was a map that went out on election night
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of these states in the country that had moved even a little bit to the right.
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Almost every state in the country moved a little bit to the right except for Washington
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state.
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And we've had a lot of problems here in Washington, and I think a lot of it can go back to leadership
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inside the Republican Party.
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There's been a lot of fracture in the party and a lack of unity.
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And we got to do better job of getting out the vote.
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I'm not, I'm not going to give up.
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You know, I think God puts us where He puts us because we're supposed to be salt and light.
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But it was disappointing.
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We have one of the most left-leaning governors in the nation now.
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Bob Ferguson was elected to replace Jay Inzley, who's a terrible governor.
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And this is, this is true right across the board.
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We voted to keep our tax high.
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We voted to keep one of the most radical climate change tax initiatives in place because
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the messaging that comes from the radical left is really, really convincing.
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They convinced people that if we don't do what they want us to do, that our, our plan
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is going to die, the public schools are going to go bankrupt, mothers can't feed their children.
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So absolutely, we need this climate change tax.
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And so the people of Washington State, largely in the big cities like Seattle, voted for
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that.
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And so now we've got a very high tax rate.
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I think we had maybe one or two wins, but overall, pretty big losses here in Washington
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State.
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Well, let's go back a little bit for those of you maybe that don't know about you and
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your ministry and you're getting off the bench and into the game.
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You ran for Congress and it was a close race and they basically outspent you.
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And I know you shared in the past together when we talked about that experience.
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How do you feel about how the overall national election went and maybe do you have any insights
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from your experience that you can share because I mean, Ted Cruz's race in Texas, billions
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of dollars were spent and it's just in a way it's sad and disheartening that so much money.
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And sometimes it comes down to who has the most money, which I think a lot of Americans
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don't like.
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Just share your thoughts on that.
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Well, I agree with you.
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I think most Americans don't like it and they shouldn't like it.
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Elections should not be about money, but unfortunately they are about money in many
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cases.
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It costs a lot of money to take out ads.
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It costs a lot of money.
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Those little mailers, those giant, glossy mailers that everybody gets in their mailbox
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and they'll 15 of them a day.
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Those are millions and millions and millions of dollars.
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And the left in this country has a lot of money to throw out these campaigns because politics
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is a religion to the left.
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I would love to see campaign finance reform.
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I would love to see real campaign reform where candidates have a limit.
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You raise two million dollars and there you go.
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That's your limit.
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That's all you get to spend.
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But there's a lot of dark money that comes in at the end of these races.
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A lot of times people don't know where it comes from.
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But the reality is it costs a lot of money to run.
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And I'd like to see that change.
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There are so many things that I would like to see change when it comes to running for
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office right now, but we're going to have to wait until the next election cycle comes
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around.
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Frankly, I'm ready for a break from the yard signs and the mailers and all the things.
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But I'm a huge fan of campaign finance reform.
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And I think the American people by and large would like to see the same thing.
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Amen.
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So what's your take on the overall results?
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I was very surprised, not shocked but very surprised because we would never know the
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outcome was going to be what it turned out to be from the media and from the hype from
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Hollywood and all the, I mean, the Swifties didn't even make a difference.
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You know, Taylor Swift and her gang and the pro-abortion Marxist celebrities, you know, supporting
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the left and Harris, what was your, well, overall take on when the results were coming
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in?
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Because I was actually quite frankly shocked that we had so much on the first on election
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night.
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Yeah, I mean, I think what we just learned is that the American people really want to
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go back to normal.
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I think that they're really sick of the radical left.
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Yeah, whatever normal, right?
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We want, we, you know, most people know that there are only two genders.
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Most people know that this transgender ideology that they're shoving down our kids'
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throats in the schools and on every magazine cover in the Walmart grocery check out stand.
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We all know that that's garbage.
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People are sick of it.
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Turns out Hispanics came out to vote for Donald Trump.
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In record numbers, what over 45% of the Hispanic vote went to Trump.
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This is the first time this has ever happened in American history.
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We saw 22% of black men voting for Donald Trump.
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It turns out the Hispanics hate what's happening on the southern border.
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They want people to come across legally too.
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They came away from the cartels.
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They don't want the cartels following them into the United States.
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So while the, the legacy media was screaming and yelling about this, I think what we saw
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was that most people in this country want to pursue the American dream.
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They want to have safer schools.
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They want to have a closed border.
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They want to have economic prosperity.
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They want to be able to fund their dreams, right?
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And they know that the Democrat Party is the party of tax and spent higher taxes.
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And we're spending, I mean, they've got Kamala Harris on, on a camera talking about
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using taxpayer money to fund sex changes for inmates.
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I think people are sick of that garbage.
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And we saw it play out in real time in the election this year.
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And I for one, I'm just praising the Lord over it.
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We were praying, David, I know you were too, that it would just be a blowout.
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That we would know on election night, you know, I was like, Lord, I'm praying for fairness
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in the election.
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I wanted there to be transparency.
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We wanted there to be, it to be so decisive on election night that there couldn't be any
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of the shenanigans that we saw happen in 2020.
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And I think the Lord had answered that prayer.
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He chose mercy over judgment in this nation.
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And frankly, we, you know, we arrived for judgment.
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We were, you know, I wouldn't blame God one minute if he decided, nope, I'm done.
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And we saw that in the abortion argument too.
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That was Kamala Harris's, you know, that was her big platform.
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She ran on killing unborn babies.
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And unfortunately, we did see in many of the states, and I'm absolutely true in Missouri,
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heart breaking loss for amendment three there, heart breaking losses in the state of California.
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But we saw big wins.
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We saw a big win for life in Florida because Florida has a governor that went to bat for
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the unborn.
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And we need to see more governors like Rhonda Santis, who have, you know, had the ability
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to lead their people and make a case for life.
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Rhonda Santis did that.
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So we saw life winning in Florida.
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But we also saw that people are hanging on pretty tightly to their, their ability to
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murder unborn children in this country.
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That to me is heart breaking.
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And I'd like to see it change.
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And I think we, we've got the opportunity to make the case.
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I for when would like to see people like listen, if, if the United States is going to be
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an abortion country, and we're going to enshrine abortion rights into our state constitutions,
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let's then see what we're doing.
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Let's teach our young people.
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This is what we're doing and I, and this is what an abortion is.
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We voted for it.
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We love this in the country.
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Here's a third trimester abortion.
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Here's a second trimester abortion.
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Here's a DNC.
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Here's what it means to do a saline abortion.
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Here's what it looks like when we inject hijoxin into the heart of an unborn baby.
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We should show that stuff to people.
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If they want, if this is what we're voting for, let's at least know what we're voting
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for.
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Years ago, 10, 15 years ago, I'll never forget this quote by, he's a Catholic priest, father
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Frank Pavone.
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Very active.
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I know father Frank.
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Yes.
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I'll never forget.
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He said, America will never resist abortion until America sees abortion.
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Yes.
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And so he was saying, put it out there, people don't know what it is.
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It's just right now, it's just this thing that the left convinced, I guess, too many people
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that it's just a choice or it's not a living, growing, developing human being, human
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baby in a mother's womb because that's what the Bible refers to.
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The baby leapt in the womb and all this, God knows us from before we were born.
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But he said that, and I thought, you're right, and there are groups that go out and do
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that.
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Missionaries to the preborn is one of them, Matt Trewella, Pastor Matt Trewella in Wisconsin.
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He goes out there to have the big signs, they show what happens, and it's offensive to
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a lot of people.
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Yes.
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But this is what they're doing.
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Go ahead, Heidi.
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Yes.
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I think it's right.
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It is offensive.
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And I love the videos that live action does, where they go out on street corners in Manhattan.
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And they ask people, are you pro-life or pro-choice, and they'll say pro-choice, will have you
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ever seen a second trimester abortion?
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You know, they'll say, did you know that abortion is legal in this state, you know, up to whatever
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many weeks, 24 weeks or whatever it was?
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And usually when people see it, their minds are changed.
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They know inherently that it's wrong.
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And so I agree, I agree with my friend Seth Gruber, who heads up the White Rose Resistance.
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We have to do a better job of educating people about abortion.
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And what we saw go down in the state of Missouri, for example, absolutely heartbreaking.
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They tied in shining abortion into their state constitution with parental rights.
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The right for young people to demand sex change operations and cross-sex hormones and
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castration and mutilation and all these things.
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And if parents in Missouri don't agree with it, they can be prosecuted there.
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So they have tied the abortion argument to a parental rights argument, both of these
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things are evil.
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It is evil to kill an unborn child.
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It is evil to put a young child on cross-sex hormones and give mastectomies to 14-year-old
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girls.
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It's evil.
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And the church has a role to play.
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We continue to have a role to play.
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And I think because Donald Trump is in the White House, it sounds to me on the very first
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day that he has an office.
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He is going to demand a stop to all federal funding for gender affirming, so-called gender
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affirming care and for educating children that somehow their gender is malleable, they
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can change their gender.
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We know that this is factually impossible.
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You can't change your gender.
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And so I'd like to see the country go back to treating gender dysphoria as a mental illness.
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It's always been, up until about five minutes ago, always categorizes a mental illness.
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And to me, this is akin to saying that we see anorexia and the same light.
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Oh, you look in the mirror and you see, you know, 400-pound women, but you're 87-pound
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soak and wet.
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But go ahead and we'll help you starve yourself.
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That's effectively what we're doing to these young people when they say they feel like
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they're born in the wrong body and we affirm it and take them down this radical leftist
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insanity.
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And then they can't recover from it.
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We're doing a reputable harm, as Priscilla Shire says.
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And I think it's time for us to talk about it.
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Amen.
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And we are.
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A lot of people are finally maybe too late for some.
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But Heidi, do you think we're used to our prize with, we're going to get to the media
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after we take our break in the second half of the podcast and talk about a few of the
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articles and just the news coverage on the Democrats versus Republicans, Trump versus
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Harris.
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I'm thinking we have Hollywood and the big celebrity voices endorsing Kamala Harris
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and the left we have sports athletes, you know, NFL and NBA.
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We've got of course corporations and everything.
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And the media of course doesn't really give a voice to Christians like a fair voice
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anyway.
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So they're always pushing one side.
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Are you, isn't it surprising that it was such, it was such a victorious outcome for conservatism,
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for Christian principles, for the pro-America, for Trump and also in other states where,
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I mean, the Senate, you know, everything looked really good.
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But you would never know that leading up to it.
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We were bombarded by the left and on every front, every major institution, the education
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system, just your thoughts on that before we move on.
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Well, I think we learned something.
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We learned that it doesn't really matter if you've got Beyonce and Cardi B, you know,
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act like a weirdo whack-a-doo at your, you know, at your rallies.
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And if you're bringing in celebrities from Hollywood, I think the American people are
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absolutely fed up with this garbage.
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They understand that the lies that we've just lived through, I mean Joe Biden has taken
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this country to the brink of ruin.
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We are circling the drain.
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And people feel it in their pocketbooks.
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They feel it when they're trying to buy a house.
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They feel it when they pick up a newspaper and they've got to like close it, not show
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what's on the cover of a newspaper.
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They're five-year-old kid because it's such a blatant lie.
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I think people are sick and tired of it as it turns out.
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Most people still really do want the American dream.
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And no amount of Kamala Harris's word salad was going to change anyone's mind.
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And the American people loudly on election night, you know, Ben Shapiro, I know this is
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a Christian show.
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And Ben Shapiro said that basically the United States voter gave the liberal media and
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the far left in this country a double-fisted, you know what, they were just like, we're
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done.
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Like, we're super tired, we're tired of being lied to.
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And we know now that we're being lied to, right?
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And so we saw it.
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I think it played out exactly how a lot of people in conservative media hoped it would.
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But people like me, I mean, I was very, very tense and pensive going into election night.
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I thought this is either going to be a huge win for our country or this is going to be
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a disaster.
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And I think that we have an opportunity now.
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We have an opportunity to put our hand to the plow and do the hard work that needs to
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be done to bring this nation back into alignment with the values that made us the greatest
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nation on the face of the earth.
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God's given us a four-year reprieve.
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I hope we don't waste it.
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Yeah, you said we're circling the drain.
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One election will not remove or erase decades and decades of moral decay and bad policy
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and corruption and Marxism, cultural Marxism.
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And anyway, we've got to take a brief pause.
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We're with Heidi St. John.
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Heidi St. John.
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When we come back, she said something before we got on the podcast that Christians have
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more work to do now.
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So Heidi St. John is with us.
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You've got something coming up in January, a women's advance conference.
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You're going to California for that.
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And then in actually next week, Heidi, you're going to be in Asheville, North Carolina.
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The national Bible B, you're going to be moderating that.
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Tell us about a few events you have coming up.
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Yeah, well, this will be my first time moderating the Bible B.
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I'm actually really looking forward to it.
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And they moved it from Asheville because of the hurricane.
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So we're actually going to be in Orlando this year.
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But I will be hosting with my friends, David and Jason Benham, lots and lots of kids,
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you know, several hundred kids from all over the country are coming who have done a lot
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of really hard work.
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There are hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line to give out huge prizes for the
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work that these kids do in memorizing large swabs of scripture and these kids.
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This is like the Olympics of Bible memorization.
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So I'm really excited.
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Love the work of the Bible B. These kids are not, you know, trying to memorize, you know,
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words for a spelling bee.
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They're memorizing God's word.
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They're hiding God's word in their heart.
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And this is an opportunity to say to recognize the hard work they're doing and have some
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fun at the same time.
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So I'm really looking forward to it.
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Tell us about faith that speaks.
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People can find that link over on your website.
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Yeah.
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So for about eight years, I have been writing a Bible study every month and I do them all,
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I do them only a month in advance.
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And the reason I do it that way is because we want to talk about the things that are happening
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in the culture in real time.
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And so we teach women to use the word of God to go not only as a defensive weapon, but
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also to go on offense.
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And that has been really important, I think, in the last several years, especially.
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So if something happens, if there's breaking news and it happens to be theological
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nature, which let's be honest, most of it is, then we're going to address it in the
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Bible say.
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So like, for example, last month, I did a study called kingdom culture.
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What does it mean to bring heaven to earth?
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What is the role of God's people in the culture?
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We're called to be in every sphere of influence.
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And just a couple of days ago, a new study's dropped the first Monday of every month.
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So last week, we dropped a study called kingdom currency.
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What is the currency of the kingdom?
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It's relationships, right?
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It's the most important relationship that we will ever have is the relationship with
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the one who made us.
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So God made us for a relationship with Him and also with other people.
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So we're touching on relationship.
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What does it look like to have influence where we live?
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And it's exciting.
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So people can find out more about that by going to faith.speaks.com.
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And I teach live every Tuesday there.
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Now going back to leading up to the election, you were doing a prayer, a Zoom link, a Zoom
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meeting, prayer group thing, getting believers to pray from October 15th to November 8th.
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Tell us about that.
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I think a lot of believers sensed the need to really pray for America with everything
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that was going on in the decline and all the chaos.
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And the threats to our First Amendment, the biblical worldview, go ahead and just share
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because I mean, I think prayer really helped believers that were praying really helped
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the results, I believe.
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Oh, I think that was the thing.
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I mean, people would say, oh, you know, we, you know, we're such amazing campaigning.
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I think the Lord had mercy on us.
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I think he heard our prayers.
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The Bible is so clear on the power of prayer, right?
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The book of James says that the prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
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We know that when we, that when we talk to God, the Psalm says that he inclines his ear,
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he literally bends down to listen.
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The Bible says that he catches our tears in a bottle that are suffering matters to the Lord.
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And so we spent three weeks every weekday from 8 a.m. to about 820 praying with hundreds
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of people from around the country.
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And we were asking the Lord for mercy, basically, we were saying, Lord, listen, your
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word says, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and
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turn from their sin that you'll hear from heaven, hear our prayer and forgive our sin
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and heal our land.
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And that is what we need.
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We need a move of God.
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And I think that we need to pray like God answers prayer, like he's a big God and he can
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do it.
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This is the same God that spoke the world into being that part of the Red Sea.
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Most of us, David, you and I have lived long enough now to have seen God do amazing things.
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And we need to ask God to do the big things.
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It was a big thing to win an election in such a spectacular way.
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And I think that we now, you know, we, we, we praise the Lord.
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I wish you could have seen my house.
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I had about 30 people here on election night.
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A lot of people from my congressional campaign.
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And we would stop about every hour and a half and we would just sing and praise the Lord.
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And we prayed and we asked the Lord for victory.
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And we watched him do it.
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And I think in 2020, God's people got lazy.
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We just decided, you know, I think, I mean, I got kind of lazy in 2020.
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I was like, nobody's going to vote for the dead guy in his basement who never came out
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to campaign.
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And I think, I think God's people were just kind of ambivalent and look where our ambivalence
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got us.
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We can never make that mistake again.
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We always need God's help.
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We always need His guidance.
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And I think prayer probably played the most important part in the election result that
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we just saw.
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I think it convicted a lot of believers who maybe had not been voting.
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I think that helped getting more true believers out to the polls.
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I want to thank you for your newsletter.
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You put out a couple days before the election or whatever.
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It might have been actually the morning of, I think, and since a lot of scriptures out
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to Psalm 31, 24, Galatians 6, 9, Romans 12, 12, and you said here, we have to have perspective.
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But let's talk about the media.
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We're all running out of time.
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Six minutes left with Heidi St. John.
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It's official.
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The 2024 campaign news coverage was the worst ever.
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And it was, it was awful.
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It was almost 80% positive coverage for Kamala Harris and the Democrats.
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And compared to 15% positive coverage to Republicans, GOP, they've been in the 90s,
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negative against Trump, negative news coverage.
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So Heidi, even with that, I mean, God still pulled it off, so to speak, assuming we know
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that he is sovereign and he still worked.
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But just your thoughts on this, how I don't know how people can trust the media.
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In fact, there is a recent Gallup poll.
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There's a record low for trust in the media for the third straight year, no surprise.
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But you're just your thoughts on this, what we're talking about now.
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And I've got some more a couple of points from the article, but go ahead and just share
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your thoughts on the media and how it's just really sad that we can't get the truth
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from them any longer.
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Well, I mean, I think we just learned that the age, the legacy media, and the United
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States is over.
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People are waking up.
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And now we've got so many other alternative places to get our news.
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You know, I get my news from the Daily Wire, I watch PJ Media.
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You know, I don't, I'm not sitting there on Fox News like I was, you know, eight, nine
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years ago.
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We recognize now that these news outlets have a bias and we, we're not just getting straight
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news.
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I mean, long gone are the Walter Cronkites of the world where we could just sit in front
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of the, front of the news and just hear the news.
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Now we have to hear it with incredible bias.
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And I think the American people by and large are sick and tired of it and they voted
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accordingly.
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So even though the mainstream media was 90% for Kamala Harris, even though they pushed
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out all kinds of stories, telling us how amazing she was, even though she'd done literally
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nothing to earn, even to earn the right to run for president of the United States, they
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trotted her out right after they pushed Joe Biden off the back of the bus and instead
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of dragging his corpse out in front of the American people anymore every day, they decided
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well, we're going to, we're going to pull Kamala Harris out.
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And immediately we saw the lame stream media shift from talking about how she was so unpopular
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and people just could not stand her to she's the best thing since sliced bread.
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She's going to be the first female American president and you could almost hear the collective
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grown from people in the United States.
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They don't, they don't buy it anymore.
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And I think you know, now they're getting their news from Twitter and now they're getting
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their news from, you know, from, from people who are just independent journalists and
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they don't trust the legacy media anymore.
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I think the golden age of the legacy media in this country and around the world frankly
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is over.
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Thank God.
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So we've got less, we've got about three minutes left Heidi and what I shared earlier is
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what you said before we got on the podcast today that Christians have more work to do
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now.
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What did you mean by that?
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What do believers and we're not just working to the next election.
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We've got to preach the gospel.
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We've got to get people say we've got to restrain evil, point out the wickedness, the deeds
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of darkness expose them.
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What the left is doing in the public schools.
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So what can we do with the remaining time we have for as long as God has us here?
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Well, we're, you just said it.
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We're called to be salt in light.
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We should be a force for good in the country, you know, and I think for so long we, we
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kind of hide between the, you know, back behind the four walls of our churches and we
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go to our potlucks on Sunday night.
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And it's really easy to be a Christian at a wana, right?
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It's really, it's really easy to be a Christian when you're going to church.
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It's a lot harder when you're on the subway in a downtown Manhattan.
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It's a lot harder here in the Pacific Northwest when you're trying to, when you're trying
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to bring attention to what's happening to children in the name of woke ideology in our
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public schools.
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But that is exactly where God calls us.
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For example, when we pray, we should not be praying just to say, thank you Lord for
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what you've done and to worship him.
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We pray because we, we're asking him for instruction.
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God, we're here.
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What do you want us to do?
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And the Lord has given us a four year reprieve.
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I just saw Donald Trump just last week announced that on his very first day in office, he's
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going to be repealing a lot of the disastrous things that Joe Biden has put in place that
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are hurting our children.
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For example, in the name of gender ideology, Christians should have a voice in that.
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This is not time for us to sit back on our laurels.
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This is time that God's given us some high ground right now.
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I say we continue to take it.
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And we don't let up off the gas like we did in 2016 and instead we say, Father, how can
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we advance the cause of righteousness?
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How can we be a force for good in the country?
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And we, and we wait and we see what the instructions will be.
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We know that God has us to be salt and light.
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Salt is a preservative, right?
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We should be preserving what is good, light to shine a light into the shadows and into
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the darkness.
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That is the role of a Christian in the culture.
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That's right.
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And some of us, like yourself, live in very dark blue, but in darkness and in states where
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there's not a lot of Christian light, Christian influence.
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But yet God places us strategically, I think, under how God orchestrates everything, right?
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We're here for a time as this.
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Heidi, I just want to encourage people to connect with you over on Facebook.
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Check out Heidi St. John.
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Just take 30 seconds and just encourage people that are kind of relieved after the election
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last week.
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And now we're going, OK, we're going forward.
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But don't stop whatever momentum or work for God you're doing.
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But please encourage them in just the last 30 seconds here.
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I think one of the big opportunities we have right now is to show the left in this
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country, especially our young people who have been indoctrinated almost to death by left
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decided algae who think that Donald Trump is literally Hitler and he's going to put alarms
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on the ankles of pregnant women to monitor their pregnancies instead of building walls
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around these people and tearing them down, extend a hand and build them up because we can
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still be ambassadors.
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And I think we can bring people over on to our side.
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Amen.
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And ask good questions, have conversations with them, love our neighbors, right?
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Heidi, thanks for your time.
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Great to see you.
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Thanks for having me.
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I appreciate it.
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All right.
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God bless you guys.
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Thanks for sharing the podcast and keep speaking the truth about things that matter.