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Know the Enemy: NC State · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Feeling a lot better this week. Has everything been on your side
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  of town this week, man. It's been a, it's been a busy
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  week so far, man. We've got a couple projects.
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  I've been working on couple, couple fun things around the
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  house. Couple big things at work, so,
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  it's been one of them weeks. I know.
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  It's been me. I'm like that for you, too.
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  Oh, yeah, I mean, it's fall. It's between sports work.
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  Being absolutely crazy this month, which is what it is.
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  I get a little Free in November, which November?
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  And December even though I'm still working on some additional
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  projects that were not as much as my time being focused having
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  to do a bunch of stuff because the culmination is not till
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  January cosine of that slow build, where this month is,
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  like, here's everything go, do it, and then, okay, and you're
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  going to get sick and then some fans don't get sick.
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  So you're going to be feeling it.
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  But it's All better. Now looking forward to a fun
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  week of college football including we go that when NC
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  State on Thursday night at 7:30 we're definitely talking about
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  Know The Enemy this week, but we're going to kick it off here
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  tonight is something that it's already been Rumblings because
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  obviously we're seeing players under the transfer portal.
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  And so me and Fran, couple weeks ago, kicked around well, how
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  many do we need? And where do they need to be?
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  So, we're going to look into that first.
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  And then, we're going to do the normal stuff we do on Thursday
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  night. So Brian, let's talk about it.
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  Obviously, we did not have a bigger transfer portal.
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  This year only took in about six players, only about nine left
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  the as compared to someone like Duke who took in 13 Brown will
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  send you on Robbie you took in the team kicked out about 19 so
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  everybody's saying, look at do. Dishes are doing great.
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  Elco came in and started booting guys and bringing a lot of
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  people immediately and Is it something probably could have
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  did probably but now we're at the point he at least has had
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  the time to evaluate this roster and full and you know I think
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  it's time we look into the portal next year.
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  What I mean I know you feel the same way Brian.
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  Yeah I think from a it almost seems like from from the
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  perspective that prior had he was taking a little bit more of
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  a conservative approach to year one, evaluating what we have and
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  then making some moves after that whereas Elko and Duke
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  Devlin took the more aggressive Approach and it's paid off for
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  him. They've had some success early
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  in this year. So, I mean, kudos to him up for
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  being aggressive getting 13 in the portal, cutting some, some
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  little more dead weight on the back end there.
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  So me a good overall flip for him.
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  And to be honest, you know, you said 13, I'm thinking 11:50
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  baby. Even 1314 would be the number
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  that we're looking at, shoot it for this offseason in terms of
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  additions. We need to be aggressive this
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  offseason in filling some of the holes.
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  We have looking at at where we can get better looking at where
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  we can add depth and kind of filling this roster out that was
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  left decimated. The last two to three years of
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  the Fuente era as true. And that's, and that's really
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  where it is. And we're seeing as the season
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  has progressed. We're seeing where the holes
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  are. But we're also seeing again, you
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  talk about the conservative approach, but we're also seeing
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  where we're developing right? You know, you're seeing a
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  Daquan, right? And they willing Loft and I know
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  a lot of people were feeling like Lofton was going to be a
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  1,000-yard receiver but still from a guy who only had seven
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  catches last year he's stepping up.
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  Hey Kwon, right? Stepping up.
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  So I get the approach because again if this is a five to six
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  year thing which a lot of people Will our go like to hear that.
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  But in reality, you know, if you're building it the right
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  way, it is going to take longer. But it's a lot easier to fill
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  holes. Right?
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  Because you know like right now man's my back in.
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  I don't think you know if we take something in the back end
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  it's going to be more depth than anything.
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  It's going to be death, mate, media starting safety or
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  rotational caliber safety, but I think in terms of the young
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  death combined, with what we're bringing in, in the the Current
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  class. We're kind of set at the
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  quarterback position. Yeah, seeing what we got with
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  d'Alene seen what we've got with Cam Johnson already, get a
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  healthy Dorian, strong Coming Back, DJ Harvey.
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  You know, that that's for right there that we're seeing some
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  heavy playing time and that are have shown the capability to be
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  at that type of player for this team.
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  So you already got four and that's before you start adding
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  in some younger guys and some of the development on the backend
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  of guys that are already on the roster.
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  All right. So let's start.
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  We said our ballpark numbers 10 to 12.
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  We're going to look at 12:00 tonight.
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  Brian is saying, we can go up to 15 and you know you guys be
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  liberal or conservative as you want as you fill in the spots.
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  But let's look on offense because obviously that's where
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  we're feeling the higher number. We're saying of our 12 we're
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  saying seven on offense now even though there has been some steps
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  taken in the wide receiver room, Prime being you kind of came to
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  the conclusion, we have to have it at least two from the portal
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  to help with depth and we really need.
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  And I know Caleb Smith is eligible next year the covid
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  year because the way it all works out, he has one more year
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  of Eligibility, but if he decides to leave and even if he
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  doesn't decide to leave one of those two has to be a starter
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  has to be. Absolutely.
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  Absolutely one has to be a starter and to his kind of the
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  minimum. That's definitely Up and off
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  point. I feel like we could be really
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  aggressive here because I think bringing in bodies you're going
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  to get a decent amount of run in the in Spring, you're going to
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  get a decent amount of Run next year.
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  You'll at least see what you got.
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  Everybody's going to get a shot, if you're bringing in three,
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  especially if Caleb Smith in ends up moving on.
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  So, I would be very aggressive at that position this offseason
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  in terms of the transfer portal. But what would you be looking
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  for? Like to me, I look at Dwayne
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  Lofton and he's a slot obviously.
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  Jaden Blues gone after this year, you know?
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  Is it a? Why is that what we in starting?
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  Is it a why? I mean, I think the big thing is
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  you're going to look To get a playmaker guy that can be a true
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  one. So, yeah, I think you're looking
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  more for like an X Caliber receiver and then you let Caleb
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  Smith kind of be that number two, if he returns and if not,
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  you love for a guy like Jalen Jones, their Christian Moss to
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  kind of step into that role next year.
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  All right? So there's that.
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  Why? That we're looking to maybe
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  three there. Now, the next one, obviously,
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  Brian. This is the one where you feel
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  like we have to go attack already.
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  And that's offensive line Brian. We we kind of came to the
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  conclusion, three offensive lineman regardless to starting
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  caliber and just so happens just to couple weeks ago, a guy who
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  had started at numerous positions.
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  For Wisconsin entered the portal, he was a big-time
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  recruit coming out for Wisconsin, when they came and
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  he's played, was it left guard, right Garden, right?
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  Tackle. And, you know, obviously, like
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  the writing's on the wall, right?
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  He comes in. He I don't know what happened
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  this year. I don't follow us constant close
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  enough, but clearly four games in, he's He's leaving something
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  happened, something went down something, but I don't from the
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  sounds of it, it's not something that would be a deal.
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  Breaking situation with another team or I we would have heard I
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  think a lot more about it at this point.
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  That's just my opinion. Now, where are you primarily?
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  Looking obviously with not seen Xavier.
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  Chaplain this year, is someone like the guy from Wisconsin.
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  I mean, is it going to be left tackle, right, tackle Center.
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  We needed, we need at least one tackle and we need at least a
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  center in my opinion. If we end up getting probably,
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  I'd like to get a swing guy. So if we look at the you know
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  the kitchen Constant, that will be a great guard, guard tackle,
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  combo, you wherever you need to feed Min fit him in.
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  Get a true tackle and then whether it's Frontline or depth
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  and then you get a potential starting caliber Center that can
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  push with looks like Jack hollifield for that starting job
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  next year, you know, I haven't seen enough of him outside of
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  the spring game to really Determine whether that's
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  something that I'm comfortable with as far as a starting.
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  So I definitely want to try to get a center in the portal as we
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  try to build this line back up and backfill with some of these
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  recruits. Yeah.
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  And that's the piece it's finding starting caliber
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  offensive lineman it's not just fine lime there's gonna be
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  plenty of offensive lineman in the portal.
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  I don't even do that but finding someone to actually be able to
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  play. And that's where, you know, you
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  hate to say it, it's guys, coming off injuries.
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  It's potentially a younger guy who has Shone out and is looking
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  for that starting job, right? Like, and I hate to say it,
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  someone like, you know, I hope it doesn't happen to us.
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  It's someone like Braylon more who we've seen on tape, he can
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  play it, a D1 level. And you have somebody like that
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  that is I'm not going to say enamored but doesn't see that
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  his offensive line coach has put a lot of guys in the NFL and
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  cooked up a lot of guys. yeah, that's that's kind of the big
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  thing, you know, we're We got we got a lot, a lot of holes to
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  fill that that unit right now it's true.
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  A lot of holes and it's a lot of holes in its we were talking
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  just for we came on here. You know talking about Wells
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  talking about kind of the offense in general, but if the
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  offensive line play like the way we saw, it was the way I've seen
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  it in Bryon, you come back to me Silas.
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  Nick Moore and Johnny have played about average maybe
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  Johnny slightly above average. Hansen ceiling isn't that high?
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  So his average is never going to be that.
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  So when he has those bad moments, it's not going to.
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  It's going to go from like, right here, where a lot of guys
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  are out here for way down here and the real one that I think no
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  one can figure out. And maybe Brian, you can call up
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  Robbie. Maybe you can call your, you can
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  call komlin up. Y'all can just sit and analyze
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  Parker Clements because if you told me, Parker took a slight
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  step back this year. You be like we get it.
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  You coach you skiing, it's okay. He's taking a massive step back
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  like he's almost a true freshman again.
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  And from a guy that I think we all expected to be playing to
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  really benefit from a new offensive line coach.
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  Yeah, and the thing that's most disappointing is is past Pro
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  which should translate more or less from scheme to scheme.
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  You know, it's one thing if you you know are changing the
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  emphasis from a primarily Zone, A scheme to a primarily Gap,
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  based scheme and struggle in the running game.
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  It's a completely different thing to, you know, shit the bed
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  in past Pro when you grade it out relatively.
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  Well, In I'd say significant time life.
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  So he wasn't obviously a full-time starter, but he played
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  significant snaps last year and graded out pretty well.
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  And it wasn't just against the scrubs or, you know, when we
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  were getting blown out and when we were blowing anybody out,
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  which we didn't do a whole lot of that last year.
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  Obviously. But you know he played
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  significant snaps against pretty solid competition last year.
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  There's no reason that especially in pass Pro that he
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  we should see this significant of a drop-off in his So I'm not
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  sure exactly what's going on there.
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  Whether he's in his head or just you know a little bit more
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  pressure is kind of put him in a spot where he's not performing
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  as well. I'm not sure but it definitely
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  has not been a good season for him so far.
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  Definitely not the season. He wanted definitely not season.
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  We kind of were thinking we were going to get from him not at
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  all. All right?
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  Obviously the next one through seven games this year It's
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  quarterback. And, you know, we said our
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  stuff, it's got to be a guy who can start in, even though we've
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  seen Grant Wells have really good moments.
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  It's been some bad ones too. And it's been some inconsistent
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  and they far outweigh the good moments we've seen.
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  Now, Brian, let me ask your opinion of this.
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  Could you potentially take this off the table of over the next
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  five games? He elevates his play, or you
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  still You want a competition in the spring?
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  I want somebody to push him, okay?
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  Because I think we're at a point where we, we know that the, the
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  floor, you know, where the floor is for.
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  We're not sure, we're not sure where the ceiling is.
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  And I think if we can get mostly kind of that upper middle of his
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  play, okay? And we put and we put some more
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  Talent around him. We might be able to do a little
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  bit of the things we want to do, okay?
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  So but I still want to see if he can get Whether that helps him
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  or that helps his growth where whether he gets better as a
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  result of that. And we see a higher level of
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  play with him in the offseason heading into next year.
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  Or whether, you know, somebody we find in the portal can come
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  in here and take that job and run with it.
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  And we, you know, we're in a, you know, Jerrod Evan situation
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  where, you know, we're one quarterback away from putting
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  some other pieces together, not saying we're going to go on.
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  around and went and games or anything like that, but more
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  saying A play elevating quarterback, which I don't think
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  right now. Wells is the guy that can
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  Elevate the play of those around him.
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  He kind of, he is what he is. He's got a great arm in terms of
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  velocity and being able to get drive it down the field.
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  But there's there's things in there where it he doesn't make
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  the people around him necessarily better.
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  So we're going to have to improve around him and we can
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  potentially, you know, upgrade that position in the process.
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  Where are they? I now with that being said,
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  though, Hypothetically. Well though you hypothetical out
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  here? By some miracle of God, the
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  Hokies go 5 and 0 to 4 and 1/2, close out the season.
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  In his play, you know, minimal picks under three picks over 10
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  touchdowns. And when you look at the game,
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  it's better. Do you still do it?
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  Or is that when you say because of what?
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  We've seen from 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, You know what, he
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  showed enough in these last five games.
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  We've got to stick with the next year, if we're going to go
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  portal shopping for quarterback, it's got to be a young
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  developmental guy who can compete with Devon and Taj in
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  might have the tools to unseat Grant or in a year.
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  That's a good question. That's a good giving you a
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  big-ass hypothetical. Yeah.
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  Because I mean I don't know if like scraping into a bowl game
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  is Enough to save that job. Well, that's why I said for and
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  15. And oh yeah, that's some sad but
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  we're still kind of, you know, back ending a bowl here.
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  I don't know because I've seen enough inconsistent play that it
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  would have to be very solid consistent.
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  For the remainder and I'd have to see again, I'm talking about
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  elevator play. Look, I'd like, I need to see
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  him. Elevating the play of others.
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  In those games, you want to hear the names, Christian Moss, Jalen
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  Jones and daewon Lofton having big games with him at the helm.
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  And I like that. We're using his legs more, and
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  he's shown the ability there. I want to see that continue,
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  along with the passing game, taking some steps forward and
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  hopefully that opening up a little bit more in the Run game.
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  Once were Working with loaded boxes all the time and awesome.
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  All right, one more on the offensive side of the ball and
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  we might need to duck Braun when we say this after after empty in
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  the room last chick. But let's be honest, we probably
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  are going to be in need of some sort of rotational depth,
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  running back. Obviously, I think right now
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  we've heard pry kept talking King in Malachi are the 12?
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  King has eligibility next year, clearly Malachi has eligibility.
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  We seen flashes of chance, black, and Bryce Duke Palin.
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  Holsten's graduated, there's a few guys, still on the roster.
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  I think basically what you're saying is, you want some sort of
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  back to compete with price and chance and push them if not beat
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  them out? Yeah, I'd like to see somebody
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  pushing for the third rotation in the running back room.
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  I think we potentially could have had that this year if we
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  had held onto Ramon Brown. So I'm thinking that that type
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  of caliber player. Why good deal?
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  So there's seven will rethink on the portal right now.
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  Roughly Midway through the season is when we kind of came
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  up with this, but when you had the episode like last week we
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  had to put this off a week. All right defensively.
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  I don't think anybody's going to be a shock on the first one, is
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  its defensive line and it's they've got to be to deeps.
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  Right here, at least two of them and that's especially doubly
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  true. If if we if we don't get Pollard
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  and Kendricks back next year, which I think they might be back
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  and it is the interior. I mean garments likely gone this
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  year, the field area, Spain thing.
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  All going to depend on what happens with the NCAA.
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  Let's not hold our breath to are.
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  Definitely don't hold your Don't hold your breath on that and
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  then with McRae and Nelson. But the is it strictly inside
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  for you? Because if garbage gone to me,
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  you need at least one and I'd say, one almost starting caliber
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  defensive in and at least a rotational piece on the
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  defensive line. Yeah.
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  Now I do think with the edge though.
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  I think the way this defense is look this year and kind of for
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  the inside to I think it's an easier sell if you have someone
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  who's putting out good tape, but buried somewhere, You got to
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  start making the phone calls and I'm sure the phone calls are
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  already being made players already, but when garbett goes
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  because garbett is out of Eligibility, right?
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  Yeah. I'm pretty sure you don't want
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  to effort that in a second here. I think so.
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  But you know the again the line play has not been a big step
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  back this year at all, but we mentioned in that.
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  What if Episode if Bono comes back, Harvey had Williams.
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  It would help everybody out a little bit but develop.
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  So we've got a quickly restock that regardless what happened.
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  Now, we could get lucky and Pollard and Kendricks.
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  Both come back and we go out and find a couple good pieces in the
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  portal. That's going to be an
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  interesting room. Next now you've already said
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  this and kind of gave Away. You said kind of second priority
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  was the safety and it's got to be at least somebody who can
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  step into a backup role because, obviously losing tamari this
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  year, you lose your leader back there.
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  Yes, strengthening people's have played great, but now it kind of
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  gets scary who's behind them. Yeah, I think that's the big
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  thing we've seen. I think we at least need
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  somebody that's either potential starting caliber, or at least a
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  rotational player back there to kind of stir things up.
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  And I think it'll help with the development of some of the
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  younger players because we don't have to necessarily throw them
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  out there. They don't have to be chimoree
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  Connor, next year, you know, they can still work into that
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  role of another year if they can get, you know, lean on whether
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  it's a Veteran that has one or two years of Eligibility left or
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  whether it's a, you know, a sophomore that pop that can kind
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  of come in and they can kind of tag team it.
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  Abso-freakin'-lutely their Brawn.
• 24:04
  And what I really find interesting about that room is
• 24:07
  it's like, you're you feel so good about who's played back
• 24:11
  there right now, right? You feel good about it but you
• 24:14
  know what? That position.
• 24:15
  That's the position. You get a stinger in your
• 24:17
  outfit, three games. Yeah, that's the targeting thing
• 24:22
  and I and when And you know, that's where you worry about
• 24:30
  that position because, you know, you have to be aggressive even
• 24:32
  in this scheme, it's even more. So you have to be aggressive.
• 24:36
  Now, the next piece I think, is one that's going to probably
• 24:40
  turn to me ears. And that's the linebacker room.
• 24:45
  I'm still feel good about the linebacker room but I think what
• 24:47
  we've seen in the last really month is Keller.
• 24:53
  Lawson a few of the other guys they can play but they're not
• 24:57
  quite ready. To be the full-time starter
• 25:00
  shit. Now next all maybe maybe going
• 25:03
  through a string being with the ones.
• 25:05
  Yeah but I think with that Brian you're looking for somebody
• 25:08
  who's probably played significant snaps elsewhere.
• 25:12
  Yeah I think that's what we would want to look at their
• 25:15
  particularly at Mike just because I don't think we really
• 25:18
  know what that position is going to look like.
• 25:21
  Is that going to be will Johnson next year?
• 25:22
  Is that going to be Jaden Keller next year?
• 25:27
  What's Mike gonna look like rolling into 2023?
• 25:33
  We've kind of been you know we leaned on Dax here the last two
• 25:38
  years, known quantity, we know what we're getting from him.
• 25:45
  You know we're kind of going into an area where we don't know
• 25:49
  what that mic Position will give us and we're still kind of
• 25:53
  unsettled it will write. I mean, Tisdale played pretty
• 25:56
  well and The game back. You know we still have some
• 26:01
  question marks though with that position in terms of depth In
• 26:05
  terms of who's going to be the guy that stepped up, is that
• 26:07
  going to be Keller's role. See going to slide over to Mike.
• 26:11
  Is that going to be McDonald's role?
• 26:14
  Is it looks like lost in the has settled back into Sam, which I
• 26:18
  think is a better fit for his skill set.
• 26:22
  Either primarily being in coverage, or attacking the line
• 26:26
  of scrimmage and not so much having to kind of read and and
• 26:30
  focus a lot more on technique there.
• 26:33
  So I think that's a better. Fit for him.
• 26:35
  So you know, the question is going to be who kind of emerges
• 26:39
  there as well. So we got some options there.
• 26:42
  We got some guys, we've seen a lot of snaps between last year
• 26:46
  and this year, but we don't really feel settled at either
• 26:50
  the the mic or the wheel position kind of heading into
• 26:54
  next year. So I'd like to see somebody at
• 26:56
  least come in that could potentially start at one of
• 26:59
  those spots. That would be the ideal
• 27:02
  situation and so for And lutely. Alright, last one on the
• 27:08
  defensive side of the ball and I know, Brian, you went through
• 27:11
  and you talked about Mansoor and cam we mentioned, DJ Harvey the
• 27:15
  corner. Back room, future looks bright.
• 27:18
  But, you know, with Dorian strong as well.
• 27:22
  But once Armani goes in, obviously those guys are gonna
• 27:27
  be stepping up. You're really gonna be only
• 27:29
  three deep at the outside. We know they'll try Harvey out
• 27:31
  there so that kind of we landed on.
• 27:34
  Need to find at least one outside corner right here.
• 27:37
  And it doesn't, it doesn't have to be a front front line player.
• 27:39
  You know, that right now we're looking at strong and Delaney,
• 27:43
  kind of being the one to heading into next year, with Cam and DJ
• 27:48
  working in their need, to get a fifth in there to get some extra
• 27:51
  rotation, some flexibility on the outside.
• 27:53
  In case you get a guy that goes down like we've seen with with
• 27:57
  strong this year. You know, you got to kind of
• 28:00
  have at least, you know, three guys maybe for that.
• 28:04
  That can, that can line up outside consistently and at
• 28:07
  least have one or two guys that can play the nickel.
• 28:10
  Absolutely. So again, it's one of those
• 28:12
  positions where you feel great about that in safety with the
• 28:16
  future. But we're not deaf wise there
• 28:19
  yet. If this was two years from now
• 28:21
  and those guys were seniors, I think we'd probably feel good
• 28:25
  because by that time we went through some Cycles, we have
• 28:28
  more guys in so. But right now looking ahead.
• 28:33
  It's just the The Depths just not there yet and it's again
• 28:37
  it's why we're saying 15 plus in the portal Here or you know 12
• 28:41
  plus in the ball this year she's using?
• 28:43
  Yeah. All right, but I mean we got
• 28:45
  some help coming you know? Yeah class that we have.
• 28:49
  Well there's a there's some pretty decent number of
• 28:51
  secondary pieces so you know maybe your answers there maybe
• 28:55
  we don't have to quite go fishing as much of there's a
• 28:57
  couple guys that you think are going to be you know as a true
• 29:00
  freshman ready to go especially guys that enroll early but I'd
• 29:04
  still keep my eyes peeled for those pieces.
• 29:09
  Lutely Brawn. All right, so let's go over.
• 29:13
  Take a look at some news and college football notes.
• 29:16
  And I think for this weekend, really, really cool what's going
• 29:21
  on College GameDay as they go. Visit Jackson State versus
• 29:24
  Southern. I love it for the HBCU
• 29:27
  Community. To get that game.
• 29:28
  They have done this in the past. I know they've done a couple
• 29:33
  where it's been like the Showcase games like in Atlanta,
• 29:36
  but this is actually, you know, at Jackson State on Campus all
• 29:40
  campus, you know down in Jackson Mississippi obviously Dion's a
• 29:46
  draw. Don't don't don't get it wrong.
• 29:49
  But it's kind of cool. Reading some back story in the
• 29:53
  history of this game and they call it the Boombox classic.
• 29:56
  And I was like wow that's interesting.
• 29:57
  Why they call it the Boombox classic?
• 29:59
  Will you start reading into it? The name of the bands and
• 30:03
  obviously HBCU culture with the band's, it's unbelievable.
• 30:06
  If you don't watch, it's every what is it the first Saturday of
• 30:11
  bowl season? The twelve o'clock game is
• 30:13
  always that classic. Yeah.
• 30:16
  And they always devote. You get a little bit the
• 30:19
  halftime show, but they always devote showing you the ban on
• 30:21
  the field, which is usually amazing.
• 30:24
  But the reason it's called the Boombox game is because Jackson
• 30:27
  State's bands is called the sonic, boom of the South but the
• 30:32
  southern band is called the human jukebox.
• 30:35
  Thus the Boombox classic going to be really interested to see
• 30:40
  if they bring di'anno set. Because obviously now with the
• 30:45
  struggles might norville's have it at that shoe.
• 30:48
  Lana with Georgia Tech opening up potentially.
• 30:53
  Some other schools opening up, his name is going to be on fire.
• 30:57
  Yep. His name is definitely going to
• 30:59
  be out there and, you know he's earned it.
• 31:03
  I mean, he went there, he's attracted some big names and
• 31:08
  he's got them playing some really damn good football.
• 31:11
  You know, it's not it's not just hey I brought in, you know, a
• 31:15
  handful of big names and We're doing I know they're out there
• 31:21
  making some noise, they really are so he's not just out there.
• 31:25
  I'm a name attached to this, this position, you know, he's
• 31:30
  actually out there, you know, coaching those guys up pretty
• 31:32
  well and good to see. And it's, you know, it's going
• 31:37
  to be interesting to see where and it's going to be interesting
• 31:39
  to see that scene Saturday morning when they go live down
• 31:44
  at Jackson State on game day. All right, Brian.
• 31:49
  Somebody got fired again this week and it's not from a big
• 31:52
  program. It is from a significantly
• 31:54
  smaller program and it's will he lie down.
• 31:57
  It UNC Charlotte started the season one and seven.
• 32:04
  Not the greatest record down there.
• 32:06
  I know it's a program building, but you know, there were
• 32:09
  Whispers And little notes that hand.
• 32:13
  They like him a lot. How you feeling that?
• 32:18
  That you know what's happened? What happened?
• 32:22
  I feel like we dodged a bullet because we will heal, he's name
• 32:25
  got thrown out there for a lot of jobs.
• 32:27
  This offseason and Virginia Tech was one of them and we were very
• 32:33
  not high on on, will he lie? He was, he was pretty low on our
• 32:40
  list there. I don't think he made the list.
• 32:43
  Only think he made the Dark Horse and if he did Go back and
• 32:48
  look what I do. Not remember talking about, will
• 32:50
  he lie in our tops? Yeah, I don't think we did.
• 32:54
  If we did, we it was just kind of like a very low low ranking
• 32:58
  there. So, yeah, we dodged a bullet and
• 33:02
  so did a bunch of other folks and you know we see this a lot,
• 33:07
  right? You know, you get a young coach,
• 33:09
  he comes in there, they play inspired for a season or two and
• 33:14
  then all of a sudden the wheels fall off a little bit.
• 33:17
  We saw it with when take in Blacksburg and we're you know,
• 33:22
  we're seeing kind of Similar results there in UNC Charlotte.
• 33:26
  So they were, they were kind of the, one of those Underdog, you
• 33:32
  know? Look at, look at how they're
• 33:33
  fighting type teams last year and now that, you know, they're
• 33:37
  completely in the, in the mud this year.
• 33:39
  So, Again I think a lot of a lot of high that's all I'd say low
• 33:48
  to mid power five teams, dodged a bullet on will Healey they're
• 33:55
  absolutely freaking lutely. All right.
• 33:58
  So Bryan we actually got a commit pick up in football and
• 34:03
  wrestling back on October 22nd Jenny, Mullen who is.
• 34:10
  By all mean goes to st. Joseph Regional plays defensive
• 34:13
  end for the football team. Is a legitimate legitimate
• 34:20
  heavyweight wrestler. Yep.
• 34:23
  Commits basically if you see the Tweet, it's basically saying
• 34:27
  dual sport athlete committing for 2023 for football and
• 34:32
  wrestling. I don't know if you had a chance
• 34:37
  to see any of this tape, Ronnie plays defensive end, he's 63,
• 34:40
  he's about 225 pounds, getting up to 250 when you're assholes.
• 34:46
  Can he legitimately do this? Because I mean these Seasons
• 34:50
  overlap a little bit. That's a great question, man.
• 34:56
  That's a great question. If the idea is that he's going
• 35:01
  to be, you know, more or less a Guy that we're looking at on the
• 35:07
  scout team, he's got to looking at for like really deep death on
• 35:10
  the on the Travel team than yes sure.
• 35:16
  It's going to be hard with how much the seasons do overlap and
• 35:20
  him being very much. A wrestler.
• 35:23
  First 24. See him, playing a significant
• 35:28
  role on the football squad but it's definitely something to
• 35:31
  keep an eye on. Yeah, it is and, you know, a
• 35:35
  little bit of his tape is up there and the video I'm
• 35:39
  watching. Jim, I love it.
• 35:40
  He was playing basically knows kind of shoots the Gap, they're
• 35:45
  running. Outside swing pass.
• 35:46
  And he actually got to the running back about 20 yards down
• 35:51
  field in got enough of a hand on them to force them out of
• 35:53
  bounds. So obviously, you know, leverage
• 35:58
  technique stuff like that. When you have a rest or out
• 36:01
  there you can tell some guys who rents combination of size and
• 36:06
  speed As usually what you're looking at man that's usually
• 36:12
  what you're looking at. So probably upside is he
• 36:14
  probably won't count towards any football scholarship.
• 36:17
  If he's coming here wrestling and seeing his credentials
• 36:20
  wrestling or David Cunningham wrote some good stuff on him but
• 36:23
  you see those credentials it's kind of like yeah, he's
• 36:26
  definitely a potential world-class wrestler.
• 36:30
  Yeah. All right, Ryan before we get
• 36:32
  into our main topic of Know The Enemy NC State.
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• 37:01
  Now back to the episode All right Brian.
• 37:05
  So let's kick it off here. No the enemy NC State.
• 37:08
  Let's start with the offense because obviously the biggest
• 37:12
  story on the offensive side of the ball is just a few weeks
• 37:14
  ago. Devin Leary starting quarterback
• 37:18
  preseason. ACC Player of the Year tears a
• 37:20
  spec tries to go through some rehab and eventually just comes
• 37:25
  up and says I'm done for the year.
• 37:27
  So it really has altered the NC State offense significantly.
• 37:32
  Yeah, that's going to be the big thing to watch is how they
• 37:35
  adjust around the new quarterback, Jack Chambers and
• 37:40
  let me let's go ahead and start there.
• 37:44
  You know, Jack Chambers, he's throwing game is still a work in
• 37:48
  progress. They in the game against
• 37:51
  Syracuse. He had a lot of kind of quick
• 37:54
  read, one read Concepts. There wasn't a whole lot of
• 37:59
  reading the defense. It was very much.
• 38:02
  Get the ball out of your hands. Quick, is this guy open.
• 38:05
  Okay, take off and run and that's where his asset.
• 38:11
  He's really an asset for the team is great athleticism.
• 38:16
  A lot of design runs that were put in place for him.
• 38:19
  QB Powers, QB draws some sweeps, had a lot of success in the
• 38:26
  short stuff, in terms of throwing the ball, but really
• 38:30
  great when he Had to improvise. So when that first read wasn't
• 38:34
  there, he was kind of going to scramble mode, but he would
• 38:37
  occasionally get himself into trouble in that.
• 38:39
  So, he had somewhere. He curfew got the first down,
• 38:42
  but he had somewhere. He tried to bail too quick and
• 38:46
  got dropped for a sec, because he put himself in a bad spot
• 38:49
  there. Yeah, and he really hasn't
• 38:52
  established me chemistry or timing in the zone read game
• 38:55
  either. So we saw mesh Point some
• 39:00
  problems there. Some bad decisions at the mesh
• 39:03
  point. So that's something else that we
• 39:05
  could probably take advantage of.
• 39:07
  And we're not looking at a guy that's going to press the ball.
• 39:10
  Downfield, consistently as though he will take a few shots
• 39:12
  here and there to kind of keep the defense honest.
• 39:15
  Yep. And with Chambers, I mean, he's
• 39:17
  not a big guy tall, 510 180, he, you know, originally coming out
• 39:23
  of high school, he committed to Charleston, Southern and he was
• 39:26
  a starter there for three years. So when n c-- State brought a
• 39:30
  minute, Lisa was a guy. They knew had played at the FCS
• 39:33
  level. We're being down there for three
• 39:36
  seasons as a starter. You know, he threw thirty eight
• 39:39
  touchdowns, he had 27 picks but you know, he also rushed for 14
• 39:45
  touchdowns over 1,000 yards in the three seasons as a starter.
• 39:50
  You know, best season. Passing wise was 2020, he was a
• 39:54
  63%, the other two seasons under 60% and his high Seasons 2,500
• 40:00
  yards. So, Contain, it's like that
• 40:05
  right contain contain contain because he's not going to kill
• 40:08
  you with his arm but obviously they're running attack.
• 40:12
  Brian. You know with him being there
• 40:16
  now versus Leary it does open that up a little bit more and
• 40:19
  let's talk about a couple of those running backs.
• 40:22
  Let's talk about Jordan Houston. The sty foot 10 192 pound
• 40:30
  running back. In Jordan out of Oakton.
• 40:34
  Virginia went to private Flint, Hills High School up in Northern
• 40:37
  Virginia, a composite 3 star out of Virginia.
• 40:43
  He was a top, 20 Virginia player.
• 40:45
  Back in 2019 it did say the Hokies did report an offer.
• 40:52
  I don't know how much that is. It's always when you see an
• 40:55
  offer, it's an offer, but what a 19?
• 40:59
  I mean, that was, you know, that was one of the only willing, I
• 41:03
  think to in that class, not three the next year for the next
• 41:05
  year, whatever the fuck, what the hell is when we were just
• 41:08
  jacking things up and you know, so far this year, you know, as
• 41:13
  the primary starter, you know, 300 yards on the ground Aven?
• 41:17
  Right at for Carrie, no touchdowns on the ground.
• 41:21
  But obviously Brian, I'm sure in that tape on you saw a little
• 41:24
  bit of that passing game because he does, he isn't it, has that
• 41:29
  element there and he's had that element since he stepped on
• 41:31
  campus and point? Yeah, I mean he's kind of a one
• 41:34
  cut and go back in terms of the running game, he's got a pretty
• 41:37
  good Vision between the tackles, but he's not really that home
• 41:40
  run threat in the Run game and he's not pushing the pile or
• 41:43
  anything like that. He's not that like Dynamic short
• 41:46
  yardage back but where he makes his hey is in the passing game
• 41:49
  in all areas and he's dangerous in the open field in the passing
• 41:54
  game. So that's one thing that we're
• 41:57
  going to keep bottled up. Is that they're going to get him
• 42:00
  the ball quickly in space. Especially with Chambers out
• 42:04
  there. So I got to be able to get him
• 42:06
  down to the ground pretty quick. Well it's interesting to see
• 42:10
  here because I mean, the passing game stats, I mean it backs up
• 42:14
  what you say there. I mean he's averaging 12 a catch
• 42:17
  but he only has one total touchdown all around.
• 42:19
  And you know, I'm wondering without the threat of leary
• 42:26
  there. When you looked at Syracuse,
• 42:30
  where they still trying to get him out, With the rivet with the
• 42:34
  passing game, they were getting them out, not quite as much, but
• 42:38
  I think they were definitely still trying to get him out as
• 42:43
  consistently as they could. He was definitely very, I won't
• 42:48
  say heavily used but they definitely kept him as a big
• 42:51
  part of their game plan, right? But obviously, you take Leary
• 42:54
  out. It it doesn't worry as much,
• 42:57
  right? It doesn't worry as much as I,
• 43:00
  okay, you're going to take your best running back in.
• 43:02
  Yes, he is. Good pass catcher, and you're
• 43:04
  going to take him away from putting the ball in his hands
• 43:07
  immediately. I take that all day knowing ya
• 43:11
  hangers and obviously, is completion percentage and
• 43:14
  everything like that. Yeah, what they're not doing a
• 43:16
  lot of is like going empty and like lining him up as a true
• 43:20
  wide out and letting him kind of operate out there.
• 43:22
  They didn't do that very much against Syracuse with which they
• 43:25
  did. Do that a lot more.
• 43:27
  When Leary was in there. Yeah.
• 43:30
  Now they do have a second running back Brian.
• 43:32
  And that's I know I'm going to butcher this, so if you got the
• 43:36
  pronunciation guide somewhere, bring it up for me and that's to
• 43:39
  be Su Mo Cong Cong Bay six foot 210-pound from willing Borough
• 43:47
  New Jersey running back. I got you you got it you pulling
• 43:51
  it up here D me Sue my carne Bay a car May okay interesting
• 43:58
  interesting. Well anyway class of 2020 one
• 44:01
  composite 86 3, star with 24/7, top 25 players in New Jersey,
• 44:09
  another good State, you can top 25 players from usually, there's
• 44:12
  a chance, they can turn out to be something.
• 44:16
  I know he did not play against Syracuse, so it will be
• 44:19
  interesting to see if he goes against the Hokies.
• 44:22
  But you know, in his redshirt freshman year, solid numbers
• 44:26
  across the board, you know, 5.8 of Carry Three touchdowns.
• 44:30
  They're using a little bit in the passing game.
• 44:32
  I'm with about 12 receptions, what's the tape showing as him
• 44:37
  compared to Houston? Yeah.
• 44:40
  He's a little bit more of their, their kind of perimeter running
• 44:42
  back the guy that they use to kind of attack the perimeter of
• 44:45
  the running game. He also does a really great job
• 44:48
  of like cutting back on those Zone plays especially inside
• 44:51
  Zone. A lot of times when he cuts back
• 44:54
  across the defense that creates a big crease, he can get up in
• 44:57
  there and make some some big runs that way, it's also a good
• 45:00
  lead Blocker in the in the past Pro and quarterback lead game.
• 45:05
  So if he's back in this game that might be a little bit more
• 45:07
  effective than we saw against Syracuse.
• 45:10
  And he is also used in the passing game, but those are more
• 45:14
  like check downs and screens versus the dynamic threat that
• 45:18
  we get from from Houston. Interesting.
• 45:23
  Interesting there on. Who worries you more?
• 45:30
  Houston. Just because of what he can do
• 45:33
  in both areas, the run in the past.
• 45:37
  I'm not so much worried about what with Demi can do in the
• 45:40
  passing game. He's more of a just a check down
• 45:43
  guy. If we can keep him bottled up
• 45:44
  between the tackles, I think we're good to go there.
• 45:47
  I'm using, is the guy that can can bother me there?
• 45:50
  All right, let's hope they continue to save him Robbie.
• 45:54
  Michael Allen. I'd have to go back and look on
• 45:56
  the board because I don't, you know, I don't see him registered
• 45:59
  in the stats here and obviously, burnt Ryan, I'm assuming looking
• 46:02
  at the tape, he didn't jump there if he played any.
• 46:05
  So let's hope they keep him bottled up for the rest of the.
• 46:09
  Yeah, we don't even see him this week.
• 46:10
  Yeah, we don't, we don't there's four games for them after that.
• 46:13
  Look, if they're going to work your man, let's hope they saving
• 46:16
  for those last four. Exactly.
• 46:18
  All right, let's take a look at one of the wide receivers and
• 46:21
  that's key on the Seine, Six asumi, 511, 190 pounds from
• 46:26
  Lumberton, North Carolina and seeing the First full game that
• 46:30
  Chambers played of the receivers.
• 46:33
  He did get good amount of targets with four receptions and
• 46:36
  39 yards from in the longest 16 Season wide.
• 46:41
  Just 20 receptions. He did have quite a few against
• 46:44
  Clemson just six or 37 but obviously he was part of that
• 46:51
  game. So yeah.
• 46:55
  And he's a guy that he's got good hands.
• 46:57
  He's like kind of a shitty Target but he's more of a stick
• 47:01
  mover than he is a playmaker. You're not going to see any big
• 47:03
  plays down the field with him very often more.
• 47:07
  The curls, quick out screens, some shallow, crossers,
• 47:12
  occasionally you'll see him, run a corner route.
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  That's kind of the, the big, the big big routes.
• 47:19
  You'll see him run in this offense. and they will
• 47:23
  occasionally take a shot with him between the hashes but
• 47:27
  they're not, he's not a guy that's going to just line up
• 47:29
  outside and run past a cornerback All right, so let me
• 47:35
  ask this Braun and you've been watching the tape.
• 47:39
  Obviously, Thayer Thomas was their big wide receiver, right?
• 47:43
  Yep. How much?
• 47:48
  I mean, I don't want to say it's he just completely.
• 47:50
  I mean, when you saw number, when you saw number five, when
• 47:55
  you watch the Syracuse tape in the game, I mean, is it just
• 47:59
  Chambers just can't get it to him?
• 48:05
  It was a little bit of that I think just because of the the
• 48:07
  skillset and because of the way Syracuse was playing them.
• 48:12
  Okay. I didn't really have a whole lot
• 48:14
  of opportunities to operate the way he normally does and it
• 48:17
  definitely goes away from from chamber strength, what they are
• 48:21
  Thomas does well, so it's kind of a little bit of an oil and
• 48:25
  vinegar situation there. We got to make sure we don't
• 48:28
  give him opportunities where Chambers can get an easy throw
• 48:31
  to him though. Yep.
• 48:33
  Because he definitely can bust their guns.
• 48:34
  He does have a long catch this year of 75 yards.
• 48:39
  All right Brian let's do real quick here.
• 48:40
  Let's jump on the scheme here scheme is Tim Beck.
• 48:44
  Tim back who came from Texas where he was a josi from 2017 to
• 48:49
  2019. He's been at NC State now since
• 48:52
  2021 step back, do kind of that Smash Mouth spread our po game.
• 49:01
  Lots of E 1 and 12 Personnel, lots of motion and shifts and
• 49:08
  kind of window dressing, you'll see a lot of jet motion, bubble
• 49:12
  motion orbit motion. They're gonna throw a little bit
• 49:14
  everything, try to get the defense misaligned and out
• 49:18
  leveraged, you'll see a lot of screens and quick throws to the
• 49:22
  perimeter to get guys in space and they are selective with deep
• 49:26
  shots down the field and especially now with Leary out
• 49:29
  much more selective at least in the We have so far of what
• 49:34
  Chambers likes to do down the field.
• 49:37
  Let me ask this. I mean do you think he's
• 49:41
  purposely going to play a very controlled game?
• 49:44
  Not take risks against the to and 50p team.
• 49:47
  Yeah and I think what we're about to talk about is the
• 49:50
  reason why he's going to do that.
• 49:52
  All right, let's flip it over. Let's talk about the defensive
• 49:55
  side of the ball and let's jump out straight up.
• 49:58
  And let's talk about Drake Thomas, because we're talking
• 50:01
  about three linebackers tonight. Y'all know normally will mix it
• 50:04
  up. safety DB, all three of the boundary line backers because
• 50:12
  they all three, they're all leading the team in tackling and
• 50:16
  legitimately they've accounted for as a group this year, 132
• 50:24
  tackles In seven games, they are a dynamic unit.
• 50:32
  But let's talk about Drake, Thomas, first Drake, Thomas
• 50:35
  linebacker six-foot-two, 30 Wake Forest, North Carolina.
• 50:38
  When he came out, he was a composite three-star, back in
• 50:43
  the class of 2019, a top-25 inside linebacker.
• 50:50
  You know, had looks from Alabama, had looks from Clemson
• 50:54
  and So he got some looks from a lot of different schools.
• 51:00
  Text took a look at it. I mean, obviously you go look at
• 51:03
  it. Charlie Wilds, who used to do
• 51:05
  North Carolina and Bud was a secondary.
• 51:08
  So obviously, if he called those two guys eyes, it said
• 51:12
  something. So what's the tape sale?
• 51:16
  Tape says that he's a damn good outside.
• 51:18
  Linebacker plays really fast likes to penetrate and jump in
• 51:24
  the rushing Lanes attacks and pursues along the edge very
• 51:28
  well. The only really weakness in his
• 51:31
  game is that you know you can't get him to over pursue or get
• 51:35
  fooled with window dressing. So if we're able to do anything
• 51:37
  with the misdirection, we might be able to get him out of
• 51:40
  position there but you know when he gets a good read and uses his
• 51:44
  technique he is as disruptive. To visit any player you'll see
• 51:48
  now. And I said the whole unit, he's
• 51:50
  leading the team 50 tackles three pass deflected.
• 51:54
  Now Brian would there because we're going to talk about the
• 51:56
  other side outside linebacker next here.
• 52:00
  Are there, is there a field side outside linebacker in the
• 52:02
  boundary side or is it ones on the left?
• 52:06
  Ones on the right? And that's where they stay.
• 52:09
  They kind of mix it up sometimes.
• 52:11
  Usually it's they're going strong and weak but sometimes
• 52:16
  they'll go go, go fielded boundary.
• 52:18
  If there is a if they go Tempo throw off its goes Tempo.
• 52:22
  Okay, so there is no way to say Drake's, always going to be on
• 52:27
  the boundary side. Tom Wilson, who are going to
• 52:29
  talk. Up.
• 52:30
  Next here is always going to be on the field.
• 52:31
  So to watch number 32 and 11 see where they're lining up.
• 52:37
  Every time because you can't guarantee we're going to be.
• 52:40
  It's yeah, it's not, it's not a true key.
• 52:44
  They primarily you'll get C Wilson planning to the strong
• 52:51
  side, okay? But like I said, depending on if
• 52:55
  the offense goes Tempo or not, that could switch up.
• 52:57
  All right, well, let's talk about it.
• 52:58
  Let's talk about Peyton Wilson, the other linebacker 64, 230
• 53:03
  pounds out of Hillsboro, North Carolina came out.
• 53:07
  The class of 2018 and he was a stud.
• 53:13
  I mean, a stud in every sense he was a four-star, 24/7.
• 53:19
  Had him as a 97, he was a top 40 player, he was top for outside
• 53:24
  linebacker in the country. He was the number four player in
• 53:27
  North Carolina. And if you take a look at his
• 53:29
  offer list, it's all the big names.
• 53:31
  There's Alabama, There's Clemson, there's Florida State,
• 53:34
  there's Georgia, there's Penn State. we did make the offer
• 53:39
  back, way back in 2018, and this season so far, I mean, 42, total
• 53:47
  tackles What's the tape showing because, you know, obviously a
• 53:52
  lot of accolades are from the recruiting services and, you
• 53:55
  know, in last year didn't play. I think he got hurt last year,
• 54:01
  but 2020 108 tackles yep. And I mean really good house.
• 54:07
  Another good really good outside linebacker really Elite Pursuit
• 54:10
  skills, he's really strong at the point of attack but it wrong
• 54:13
  Army, the puller, keeping good leverage in the gap.
• 54:19
  Good open field tackle. ER if there's a weakness in his
• 54:22
  game is that if you can get on him he's not great at shedding
• 54:26
  blocks but if he's shooting gaps and you know, playing playing
• 54:32
  with with leverage, it's hard. It's hard to keep him off the
• 54:35
  ball. The ball carrier there.
• 54:37
  All right, so there's two really good linebackers.
• 54:41
  Let's just talk about the third linebacker.
• 54:43
  Let's talk about Isaiah more, the six-foot-two 232 pounds.
• 54:49
  This is gonna hurt everybody. When I say this, he's from
• 54:52
  Chester Virginia, Ouch class of 2017.
• 55:00
  He was a high Three Star by 24/7 for 789 number 12, player in the
• 55:06
  state top 20 outside linebacker in the country plated LC Bird
• 55:13
  and five years ago LC Bird was still one of the dogs here in
• 55:19
  Richmond. They don't say completely fell
• 55:21
  off but with the rise of Highland Springs VA Piranha
• 55:24
  returning, they're not as big as they used to be.
• 55:28
  We did not offer, but he was not as highly recruited coming out
• 55:33
  by some people. Only a few offers here and there
• 55:37
  but he's making people pay for that and NC State took the right
• 55:41
  angle you know 40 total tackles this year, he does have a sack.
• 55:46
  And what's the tape showing on mr.
• 55:50
  Moore. Yeah.
• 55:52
  He's there Mike, he's often matched up in coverage on the
• 55:56
  inside. Most tied in when in man
• 56:00
  coverage, he's really good at sheddings and shedding blocks,
• 56:04
  really good at working through the trash, to get to his spot
• 56:08
  and make plays in The Run game. The only real weakness in his
• 56:13
  game is that he will occasionally missed tackles in
• 56:15
  the open area. So if Get him in space, you kind
• 56:18
  of you kind of put him at a disadvantage but if he's working
• 56:21
  inside that traffic and you don't have a big Lane to kind of
• 56:25
  maneuver, he's on, get you down. All right, let me be very Frank
• 56:34
  with you Braun of these three linebackers who has the
• 56:38
  potential to do the most damage. Thursday night, I'm going to say
• 56:46
  Dreher Thomas just because of how his quickness, okay?
• 56:53
  I think stronger. I think his quickness is going
• 56:56
  to be could be a Difference Maker for us.
• 56:59
  All right. All right.
• 57:01
  So we talked about three linebackers because obviously
• 57:04
  sometimes when you have that good of a unit you just need to
• 57:08
  discuss them and I know, Brian. I kind of left the last one
• 57:12
  opened up for you and you shot me and said you want to talk
• 57:15
  about Josh Harris and it's funny.
• 57:17
  Josh Harris, six-foot-four 325. He is from Roxboro, North
• 57:24
  Carolina. So for Robbie who's listening
• 57:27
  out there in any of our other friends Mal effects County?
• 57:30
  It's been was a class of 2019. He played for person.
• 57:33
  Hi Brian School. You were very familiar with in
• 57:36
  your four years of playing football for Halla.
• 57:39
  Fortunately, I'm 40 year class of 2019 and a pretty big-time
• 57:44
  recruit. It's why you continue to go do
• 57:47
  these smaller parts of your state to recruit because guys
• 57:50
  like Josh Harris come out, he was a four-star top 25 defensive
• 57:56
  tackle in the country top 250 player in the composite top 15,
• 58:01
  the state of Carolina when he came out and and he was
• 58:04
  recruited. You see the name Alabama?
• 58:07
  You see Clemson Wisconsin came down and made offer am Tennessee
• 58:13
  of how the state. So highly recruited.
• 58:15
  Got a little person County and even though his numbers aren't
• 58:18
  big Braun, I think we see that sighs.
• 58:22
  I think We probably know where you're about to go with what he
• 58:25
  does. Well, you know, when we talk
• 58:28
  about the 33, you talk about the guy in the middle being the guy
• 58:33
  that helps the three guys that I just mentioned, eat all night
• 58:38
  and that's what he does. He's a space heater.
• 58:41
  He does a really good job of occupying blockers.
• 58:44
  He regularly re-establishes the line of scrimmage.
• 58:49
  And that's big for the type of player in this system.
• 58:54
  He underrated as a pass rusher, he's a really good.
• 58:59
  Push Pull in a bull rush and he uses those pretty regularly and
• 59:04
  he's able to get some some quick penetration on the quarterback.
• 59:07
  The only thing I'll say about him is motor could be a little
• 59:09
  better and that might come with a, you know, another year to
• 59:13
  conditioning in the program. But yeah, definitely Dynamic
• 59:17
  player for his size and now I'm going back through that message
• 59:22
  real quick. Even though this is a long time
• 59:25
  ago, he actually did go to Halifax County Schools until the
• 59:30
  sixth grade, so he would, I guess he would have not played
• 59:34
  middle school ball, right? Middle School still six, seven
• 59:36
  eight. Yeah.
• 59:38
  He just missed it, just missed it.
• 59:40
  Just miss being a lion just miss being a lion playing for the
• 59:44
  team. All right, well, Brian, let's
• 59:46
  flip it. We obviously are super familiar
• 59:48
  with this defensive system with Tony Gibson.
• 59:53
  But let's just talk about a little bit more.
• 59:55
  Let's talk about that 335 stagnant, Tony runs.
• 59:59
  Yeah it's a 335 it does a good job of confusing.
• 1:00:04
  The blocking schemes with you know some unbalanced and
• 1:00:08
  shifting that can get them confused at times.
• 1:00:11
  They don't bring a lot of heavy pressure usually three down.
• 1:00:14
  Plus 1 is what they bring in terms of rushing the passer so
• 1:00:20
  they will Blitz occasionally but that's not something that Do
• 1:00:23
  very often, it's kind of where it's coming from.
• 1:00:26
  You don't really know where it's coming from, and that's where it
• 1:00:29
  kind of creates that confusion across the offensive line.
• 1:00:32
  They get consistent pressure by bringing just those four, but
• 1:00:36
  it's one of those again. If you can get get the Run going
• 1:00:40
  against them, they become vulnerable because they're not
• 1:00:42
  very great in the back end, which we didn't talk about
• 1:00:44
  anyone on the back end. And for a pretty pretty decent
• 1:00:47
  reason they're there. They're not bad but there's
• 1:00:50
  nothing outstanding. They're really kind of jumps off
• 1:00:54
  the screen. Alright, so there it is.
• 1:00:57
  No the enemy. So remember those names?
• 1:01:01
  Remember some of those things. We're talking about the scheme.
• 1:01:05
  All right, Brian. Let's go over to the Hokies keys
• 1:01:08
  and I know I was I told you I won't line is going to be what I
• 1:01:12
  said, the rest of the friggin year until we start doing it,
• 1:01:14
  but let's be straight up. It's going to be how good can we
• 1:01:18
  run the ball on Thursday night? They're decent.
• 1:01:23
  No, they're decent team against the run, you know, they're
• 1:01:26
  essentially top there. 36 in the country.
• 1:01:29
  They average right at 4.3, carry the given up, just over 120
• 1:01:32
  yards, a game. But and I don't, it's really
• 1:01:37
  weird. You see this?
• 1:01:38
  But Devon Larry goes down. And yes, they play.
• 1:01:42
  Jordan Travis at FSU, a very mobile quarterback, and then
• 1:01:45
  they played Syracuse with one week to prepare.
• 1:01:48
  But the last two games, this defense is uncharacteristically
• 1:01:51
  giving up six and a half per carry.
• 1:01:55
  Now. It's I'm trying to suffice that.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah I mean I think the big thing is that If we can get and
• 1:02:08
  we seen it because you get, you've had back-to-back weeks
• 1:02:10
  where you got a quarterback, that is either very mobile.
• 1:02:13
  Or highly mobile Schrader has good Mobility.
• 1:02:17
  You know, we saw with FSU. What happened there, if we can
• 1:02:21
  run the ball as effectively as we did with Wells that are last
• 1:02:29
  game, I think that's, that's something that we can look at.
• 1:02:32
  That's something we can build on and that'll that'll open up.
• 1:02:36
  More things for the running backs as well.
• 1:02:38
  So if we can get, I'm not saying we need to get that
• 1:02:40
  six-and-a-half carry that we've seen that be great.
• 1:02:44
  Yeah, that'd be great. Then the great.
• 1:02:47
  But if we can get, you know, a shade above that average and
• 1:02:51
  that, you know, 135 1 to 150 range as a team and somewhere
• 1:02:57
  around four four-and-a-half, carry 1/2, I'll go four and a
• 1:03:01
  half. Okay, well, let me ask you this
• 1:03:04
  because I think we could lower because I think them Susan.
• 1:03:06
  Leary. I mean do you think if we run
• 1:03:11
  the ball 40 times and get go three and a half of carry
• 1:03:14
  without lyrics and I'm suppressing this because they
• 1:03:17
  don't lose a good enough quarterback against a team like
• 1:03:22
  we're built this year. He could potentially beat us,
• 1:03:25
  right? Yeah, he could have a game where
• 1:03:27
  he beats us, not the rest of the team.
• 1:03:31
  So, I say 35 times, would you take three and a half of Carrie?
• 1:03:35
  And that would put us at what about 120.
• 1:03:39
  I'm gonna throw you a caveat there, okay?
• 1:03:41
  Because not all three and a half per carries.
• 1:03:44
  Are built the same right through.
• 1:03:47
  So if we're talking more boom or bust up say no, that would not
• 1:03:51
  suffice. If we're talking consistently
• 1:03:54
  since is in is consistently not just on the whole getting 3.5
• 1:03:59
  but if we're consistently, getting 3 to 4 yards, every time
• 1:04:02
  we rush the ball then. Yes.
• 1:04:05
  If we're having a gain of 20 and then we got back to Baghdad -
• 1:04:09
  want to then no, no. We're that's not, that's it
• 1:04:13
  done. I like that caveat and that's
• 1:04:17
  the caveat. I want to see because if you're
• 1:04:19
  telling me we're averaging three and a half and if our long all
• 1:04:23
  nights 12, but we're still averaging three and a half.
• 1:04:27
  That means they're not getting in the backfield.
• 1:04:29
  That means we're getting line of scrimmage or those one or two
• 1:04:33
  yard games Every Time We Touch them over.
• 1:04:35
  Moving forward consistent because to your point, what
• 1:04:39
  scares the hell out of you saying me saying
• 1:04:42
  three-and-a-half is well what if Keshawn catches just catches the
• 1:04:46
  crease? Like we've seen a couple of
• 1:04:48
  times and go 65 yards. That means the other 29 carries
• 1:04:52
  a gonna be about what 1.5. Okay, I don't guesses.
• 1:04:56
  So yeah I mean I'll say I'll take a touchdown in two field
• 1:05:02
  goals over that, one long touchdown.
• 1:05:05
  Long as we're continuously. Yeah, if because if we
• 1:05:08
  consistently moving the football, then we're
• 1:05:10
  consistently getting into scoring range and putting some
• 1:05:13
  points on the board. And without Leary, some points
• 1:05:18
  is going to keep us in this game.
• 1:05:22
  That's I mean it's big because it's one of those games because
• 1:05:26
  it's Chambers, I do think Tim I think Beck's going to play close
• 1:05:30
  to the vest. I think he knows he has a good
• 1:05:32
  defense on the other side. I think doors going to play
• 1:05:34
  close to the vest because what he does it need is Jack
• 1:05:37
  Chambers. Going out there and throwing a
• 1:05:38
  pick six or taking points off the board, right?
• 1:05:42
  He does he doesn't want to end up in a similar situation that
• 1:05:47
  we put BC in early in that game. Where, you know, they have some
• 1:05:53
  things that they can do well but they're having to play catch-up
• 1:05:58
  the whole time. Makes.
• 1:06:01
  And I'm not saying that, I obviously, they don't have a an
• 1:06:04
  offensive line as awful as Boston College has, at least,
• 1:06:08
  especially as they were when we played them, they've they're a
• 1:06:12
  little bit improved since then, but at the same time, you never
• 1:06:17
  liked to play from behind two scores.
• 1:06:21
  So now, if I don't think they're going to come out aggressive in
• 1:06:25
  this game, At least on the offensive side, got it.
• 1:06:31
  Well, let's flip it down. Let's talk about the Hokies run
• 1:06:33
  defense because I think I think Chambers out there that always
• 1:06:38
  worries you as a running quarterback because it feels
• 1:06:40
  like it's just been our Achilles heel for years upon years now.
• 1:06:43
  But just in general, you know, they have two solid running
• 1:06:46
  backs who can make gains and they're coming off plan to good
• 1:06:51
  defense has especially to good. Run defense, has you know
• 1:06:54
  Florida State's 22nd in the country Syracuse?
• 1:06:58
  Is, you know, get their rank here.
• 1:07:01
  I had it up a second ago. I went away.
• 1:07:03
  Syracuse 44th in the country so they did not play.
• 1:07:10
  Excuse me on that. Braun, I had the wrong data
• 1:07:13
  point up here. Give me one moment, but we know
• 1:07:16
  Syracuse has a good defense. We've seen that all year.
• 1:07:19
  Syracuse has a very good defense overall in, you know, 39th
• 1:07:26
  against the Run Florida. Estate not as good against the
• 1:07:30
  run, but when you watch those two games and just kind of watch
• 1:07:37
  the rain attack, How big is it? Like if because if you say, you
• 1:07:43
  say, we get three if we give up 3.7 a carry to them.
• 1:07:48
  Well, first of all, the games going to be ugly, anyway, it's
• 1:07:50
  going to be really ugly they go 3.7 and Carrie.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah, if they go 3.7 to carry then it gets really ugly because
• 1:08:01
  and in that in that situation, I mean we're kind of on equal
• 1:08:05
  footing there because if they're struggling to run the ball,
• 1:08:09
  they're having to put Chambers in a situation.
• 1:08:12
  He's not great in. I'd probably take on the whole
• 1:08:18
  what wells can do over. What Chambers can do really?
• 1:08:23
  It's just just narrowly because I think Wells can make a couple
• 1:08:29
  throws down the field at a better clip than what Chambers
• 1:08:33
  can Chambers might nickel and dime you he might throw you
• 1:08:36
  quick outs screens. Little flares to the running
• 1:08:40
  back and wide receiver things that can kind of get you some,
• 1:08:43
  maybe some yards after the catch, but he's not going to
• 1:08:46
  attack you downfield, consistently.
• 1:08:48
  Okay, that's something we can do a little bit better, I think.
• 1:08:52
  So that's where there's some opportunity there if we can stop
• 1:08:55
  there, rushing attack early, and get them where they have to kind
• 1:09:00
  of use those. Those quick plays to the to the
• 1:09:04
  wide receivers, in the running backs as de facto rushing plays,
• 1:09:07
  because they can't really generate anything between the
• 1:09:09
  tackles unless they run their quarterback.
• 1:09:12
  That's something to look at. All right, got you?
• 1:09:16
  All right? Another big one.
• 1:09:18
  And it's kind of the story of the year, right?
• 1:09:21
  Is we have Boy turnovers then now we're going against the team
• 1:09:26
  that has forced 13 total turnovers in seven games.
• 1:09:30
  They're almost getting two turnovers a game.
• 1:09:33
  And I'm sure you didn't want to hear this for high-end, they
• 1:09:36
  have 11 interceptions. They do their top 15 in the
• 1:09:44
  country, in that their top, 30 in the country, in forced
• 1:09:49
  turnovers. If we don't Play a clean game.
• 1:09:54
  You know, we're already kind of behind the eight ball but
• 1:09:56
  knowing that they don't have the explicit.
• 1:09:58
  If it was leery, we could afford zero, maybe we can afford one.
• 1:10:02
  I want 0, because if we, if we turn it over, we're given a
• 1:10:06
  hamstrung offense more chances. Absolutely.
• 1:10:12
  We this is a game where I think I mean turnovers kind of goes
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  both ways here. I think we need to potentially
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  Force One to give our offense and extra chance here maybe with
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  a short field and I think we need to do a very good job of
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  protecting the football. You know, they will, they will
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  get an interception here and there and most of that comes off
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  of them, their ability to get pressure with for enforce, those
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  bad throws. There's a saying if you have
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  eight, guys, if you have seven guys back in covered with, you
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  have a cheer you're getting penalized.
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  But if you have seven guys back in coverage, able to make a play
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  mean, that's another big thing. And again, I'll talk about
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  turnovers defensively real quick to.
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  I mean, I mean, Brian, we're literally the fourth worst team
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  in the country. If forcing turnovers, we have 5
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  to the season and eventually you say to yourself, can't, there be
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  a regression to the mean. And by that, that means we would
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  get three on Thursday night and we've been close a handful of
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  times, man. So it's not, it's not just that,
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  you know, we're not there it's that were there.
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  And sometimes we don't do just don't quite make the play.
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  Yeah, so we got to get better at that.
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  And and the last thing we'll talk about, as far as it on the
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  table for it, he offensive wrinkles.
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  I had before he gets deep into it, I had something else I
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  wanted to discuss, we start shooting it and you say I want
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  this. So, All yours big man.
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  Yeah we got to see some offensive wrinkles.
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  I like the scheme overall but prize already talked about it
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  we're a little bit to Vidal and what we're trying to do we are
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  not doing a good job of just going out there and Road grading
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  teams and then throwing play-action off of that because
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  we haven't been up to run effectively are play action has
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  not been effective. That means that our quick
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  passing game is also very predictable because we're trying
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  to get those Those short, quick passes to the tight end into the
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  running back. They work here and there but the
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  defense start skiing on them, they take that away and that's
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  why we've seen some stagnant drives happen in those second
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  and third quarters. Until we start mixing things up
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  a little bit to close out the game.
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  We got to get better at getting some wrinkles in the offense,
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  and we got to be better at adjusting it halftime.
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  So when they try to take some of those things away, we're ready
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  with a good counter in the second half.
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  So We don't hit those roadblocks that.
• 1:12:41
  We've seen to start the second half on offense, you know, I
• 1:12:45
  want to see some some more creativity in the passing game.
• 1:12:48
  I'd like to see us. Go to some quick passes that
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  aren't those. Kind of like quick quick screens
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  and quick outs to the tight ends into the running backs.
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  I want to see us mix-up and maybe run some counters off of
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  that or some Throwbacks or you know something to kind of get
• 1:13:06
  the defense moving One Direction and attack than the other
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  direction. Because right now we're not
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  taking advantage of some of that flow that we're getting to those
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  bread-and-butter plays that we've established.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah. And and again the bread and
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  butter isn't the best of it. But I think two bronze point is
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  if the bread-and-butter ain't doing it, you start throwing the
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  wrinkles the eyes, the feet start moving and so when you
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  throw those little wrinkles, you do those unique things.
• 1:13:35
  It makes guys think and then when you run a bread and butter
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  inside power or something, right?
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  Well, if you're putting a little window dressing again, something
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  that to me, I we always saw as a staple of the Wisconsin, offense
• 1:13:47
  was like running a tight end around.
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  I'll run a little sleep like that, where it's then it goes
• 1:13:53
  into the power, we don't see things like that.
• 1:13:56
  And those things are what makes linebackers move and make it a
• 1:13:59
  lot easier for the lining to get up field.
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  So it will be interesting and we haven't seen a lot of wheels off
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  of those tight end, quick outs and screens, not as many as I
• 1:14:10
  thought, we'd see where we can kind of take advantage of them
• 1:14:14
  and their aggressiveness jumping that route, well, wouldn't it be
• 1:14:17
  nice to see both Thomas and King on the field?
• 1:14:20
  Same time where when you run a wheel out of that because that
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  linebackers going to stay home a couple more tenths of a second,
• 1:14:28
  right? Because if you're showing up
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  again, I always just say, throw a fake screen, fake, the draw
• 1:14:35
  that line backers, not going to move.
• 1:14:37
  If the safeties are focused on the, you do slip out the wheel,
• 1:14:41
  and things like that. So, yeah, well, you can also put
• 1:14:44
  the running backs out there and send one one way.
• 1:14:47
  And one the other you get an extra linebacker out of the box.
• 1:14:50
  But let's just say this, at least as a fan, our concerns are
• 1:14:56
  being addressed vocally. Yep.
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  Which is a complete turnaround from the last few years because
• 1:15:07
  we don't need to be vanilla. We need to play the best
• 1:15:09
  players. We need to do this, and I know
• 1:15:11
  some people will say, well, that's just words.
• 1:15:14
  Well, would you rather have no action, no words?
• 1:15:18
  Or would you rather, at least have word?
• 1:15:20
  Because what it tells you is, if somebody keep screwing up,
• 1:15:22
  somebody might get their asses fired.
• 1:15:25
  Yeah, we know that are we at least know at this point that
• 1:15:28
  our head coach sees it and is knowledge it.
• 1:15:31
  Now whether he does something about it, that's to be seen but
• 1:15:36
  we're at least getting the right message of.
• 1:15:41
  Hey, I see this. I hear you.
• 1:15:45
  We're trying to address that and then let the chips fall where
• 1:15:49
  they may, and hopefully we see some chip start falling in the
• 1:15:52
  right direction here. This weekend, or this.
• 1:15:55
  Let's hope so. Well let's go to those
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  predictions Brian. And you know it's even with
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  without if Devin lyrics here I have the scores a lot uglier to
• 1:16:05
  me but I still just can't do it. I think n CA C NC state has a
• 1:16:11
  home field advantage. Their defense is significantly
• 1:16:15
  better than our offense. Although our defense is better
• 1:16:18
  than their offense without Leary.
• 1:16:22
  I think this is low scoring, I'm still trying to figure You're
• 1:16:24
  out how the over unders 40, it was 42 and 43 earlier in the
• 1:16:29
  week. I don't get that but I think NC
• 1:16:32
  State does pull one off like a 17-10 win.
• 1:16:37
  Yeah, I'm kind of in that same ballpark.
• 1:16:40
  Yeah. I think their defense is just a
• 1:16:43
  little bit better than our defense.
• 1:16:46
  I think it's ugly game. I think we're both not great
• 1:16:49
  offensively. I think it's a 16-13 NC State
• 1:16:53
  victory. Alrighty.
• 1:16:57
  Well Brian big screeners last week was good to both of us.
• 1:17:01
  We both hit our games, your Okie State, taking the home, dog,
• 1:17:08
  with the points. They ended up winning out,
• 1:17:10
  right? And then thanks to a late sort
• 1:17:12
  of nothing touched down or again, UCLA goes over at the
• 1:17:16
  office and zoo and this weekend, Brian, where are you?
• 1:17:21
  Taking us on your big screen I'm going to the bourbon brawl
• 1:17:28
  Tennessee, Little Tennessee. Whiskey against some Kentucky
• 1:17:31
  bourbon. In that one, the over is over
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  under 63. I'm actually going to take the
• 1:17:41
  over there. The spread is 13.
• 1:17:47
  Tennessee is a 13-point home favorite.
• 1:17:49
  I think that's just a little little too much for me.
• 1:17:54
  I think Tennessee, definitely wins this, but I think it's more
• 1:17:57
  in that kind of the ten eleven point range.
• 1:17:59
  So, givi Kentucky, and the 13. And I'm going to take that over
• 1:18:02
  at 63 all. So Brian Kentucky, tonight's a
• 1:18:06
  night game right after 7:00 7:00.
• 1:18:10
  Yep. So in o'clock.
• 1:18:11
  Alright, well for me, I looked around and I tried, there's some
• 1:18:15
  rank matchups that are later. Obviously it's a big one at noon
• 1:18:18
  with Ohio State and Penn State. I'm not going to be here for
• 1:18:20
  that and then lo and behold, I find number one team in the
• 1:18:25
  country is playing Florida and of our age group.
• 1:18:34
  This is the world's largest outdoor cocktail party.
• 1:18:38
  I've had some colleagues at work, go to this game.
• 1:18:41
  I've had some fraternity, Brothers, go this game.
• 1:18:43
  A, it's one of those if you want to go to a party weekend,
• 1:18:48
  whether you like either team or not go to it because apparently
• 1:18:51
  down in, Duval, that is one wild ass weekend.
• 1:18:56
  Currently we've got George at 23 and a half in an over-under of
• 1:19:03
  56 and a half. I'm not touching 23 and a half
• 1:19:07
  even though Georgia is superior. This is one of those get up
• 1:19:11
  games, right? Yep, this is a rivalry.
• 1:19:15
  They don't like each. Other has two stadiums read half
• 1:19:17
  the Stadium's Orange. and I sit here that under 56 is intriguing
• 1:19:25
  because I think that's where I got it.
• 1:19:29
  I got to go under. I think Georgia wins.
• 1:19:32
  I don't could I see them winning by 30 could I see them winning
• 1:19:36
  something? Like 3810.
• 1:19:38
  Yeah. Could I see it being something
• 1:19:42
  like 28? You know?
• 1:19:45
  2810. Yeah.
• 1:19:47
  Because that Georgia offense has been this up and down and they
• 1:19:51
  are playing a significantly better team this week so or
• 1:19:56
  player wise Napier's getting their schematically but player
• 1:19:59
  wise is probably the best team they've seen in a while.
• 1:20:02
  So I'll take the under that game and just reminisce and, you
• 1:20:06
  know, we're getting loaded this weekend between the bourbon
• 1:20:09
  brawl and the cocktail Already we might stumble in here on
• 1:20:13
  Saturday night. I like that.
• 1:20:15
  I like that, right? Anything breaking the last hour
• 1:20:20
  and 20 minutes here. I'm not seeing anything, buddy.
• 1:20:24
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